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*Bonus Ep* Orange County Recap plus DISH: Alexis, Yolanda, Mauricio · Drama, Darling: A Real Housewives Comedy Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Drama, Darling Drama, Darling.
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  Speaker 2: Drama, Darling.
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  Speaker 3: Hello, Darlings, welcome back, Welcome in Emily. Dereesis is with
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  Speaker 3: me shining bright from silver Lake.
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  Speaker 1: Hello there, good day to one and all.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, I'm up here in Santa Clarita, where it will
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  Speaker 3: be another scorcher this weekend. We've had a reprise, a reprieve,
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  Speaker 3: if you will not, a reprise, a reprieve of the
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  Speaker 3: heat this week, a revival the lovely cool air has
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  Speaker 3: been great, but now we're going to get back into it.
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  Speaker 3: And it's going to be a three day weekend in
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  Speaker 3: which labor days upon us. So happy labor to all
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  Speaker 3: those laboring. There will be no show on Monday. There
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  Speaker 3: will be no show on Monday, got it, Okay, But
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  Speaker 3: that does not mean that we're going to be coming
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  Speaker 3: in hot with double ups, you know, double ups, double
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  Speaker 3: them up and double recaps and all kinds of news
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  Speaker 3: heading straight into the week next week and today is
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  Speaker 3: Orange County. Now I'm making this an episode that is
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  Speaker 3: over there. So Emily, before we start into our incredible
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  Speaker 3: Orange County recap, we've got some real fun dish to
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  Speaker 3: serve up. So let's get into some dishing dish. Okay, Well,
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  Speaker 3: first and foremost, I was really awakened this morning when
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  Speaker 3: I took to my Instagram and I opened it up
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  Speaker 3: and I saw that Shannon Bador Shannon Storms but Door
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  Speaker 3: had a story, and I said to myself, you know what,
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  Speaker 3: I'm gonna check out what's going on in her stories.
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  Speaker 3: I don't typically do that, she doesn't typically have a
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  Speaker 3: ton of stories. So I popped into her stories and
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  Speaker 3: it was a picture of Archie in the water, and
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  Speaker 3: there were captions all over it that says Archie is great,
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  Speaker 3: and then the caption says, I said he was in
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  Speaker 3: quotes in heaven because there were so many little dogs
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  Speaker 3: around him. Little dogs are his favorite. And I just
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  Speaker 3: laughed my little tush off because I thought, well, certainly
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  Speaker 3: she got herself into a bit of a pickle with
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  Speaker 3: people thinking that poor little Archie may have crossed the
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  Speaker 3: Rainbow Bridge. So I had a laugh. I did a
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  Speaker 3: screenshot of it, thought, may, I'll probably mention it on
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  Speaker 3: today's show. Then I get a tech from Emily. It's
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  Speaker 3: a page six article that has covered this story.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, I mean because Shannon was basically like, Archie has.
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  Speaker 2: Passed away from the counter to walk to his dog bowl.
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  Speaker 2: Like it's just like what, like, what are you doing?
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  Speaker 2: I mean it did totally look there was enough of
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  Speaker 2: a delivery in terms of it's heaven, he's with his friends.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it was cheap delivery. Yeah, it was a big message.
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  Speaker 1: It was.
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  Speaker 3: The story was the cutest picture of Archie. Like the
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  Speaker 3: shot is like you looking down at the dog, so
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  Speaker 3: the dog is looking up at you. It's the perfect
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  Speaker 3: capture of a dog ever and the dog just like
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  Speaker 3: so happy, and it says Archie is in heaven with
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  Speaker 3: lots of friends. Says there's no other dog in the shot, right, Well,
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  Speaker 3: she's and to Shannon's credit, you know she's you know,
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  Speaker 3: these people haven't signed on, they haven't signed off on
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  Speaker 3: their dogs being on a page with thousands and thousands
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  Speaker 3: of followers, so I you know, she's like, oh is
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  Speaker 3: that how that works. Yeah, she doesn't want to cross
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  Speaker 3: anyone's boundaries.
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  Speaker 1: And yeah, Bravo Legal was like, you need to blur
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  Speaker 1: out those dogs.
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  Speaker 3: For crop blur. Yeah, so it's just Archie. But Archie
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  Speaker 3: is in heaven with lots of friends. And I mean,
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  Speaker 3: can you imagine the flooding of messages into her box?
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  Speaker 3: Oh no, Shannon, are you okay? You don't deserve this.
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  Speaker 3: This is too much, like you're already going through it.
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  Speaker 3: Oh this is awful, Shannon, are you okay? That? She
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  Speaker 3: probably was called page six herself and was like, I
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  Speaker 3: I I need you to do a story I put.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know what I did, but please stop stop
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  Speaker 3: this madness.
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  Speaker 2: Archie's resting peacefully finally at the vet on the counter.
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  Speaker 3: Waiting for his wellness check. He's perfectly great.
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  Speaker 2: I just meant, he gets so excited when we get
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  Speaker 2: to the vet. He's so stressful, and now he's resting peacefully.
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  Speaker 3: I we just took Archie's ashes to the park to
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  Speaker 3: lay them at rest. What you know Archie Archie's stick.
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  Speaker 3: He wanted to burn it up and cremate the stick.
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  Speaker 3: It's his favorite stick. He wanted to move on from it.
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  Speaker 3: I'll page six. Please help me. I've caused him some trouble.
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  Speaker 3: Oh God, she is like, you know, she's so quirky.
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  Speaker 3: She's got those attributes that Kathy Hilton has, but they're
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  Speaker 3: actually way more authentic because Kathy leans into her quirkiness
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  Speaker 3: and kind of exploits them in a way that we
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  Speaker 3: know this, she's smarter than that, and sometimes she does
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  Speaker 3: it on purpose. Yeah, they have some similarities, which which
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  Speaker 3: is why I think we all have found Shannon so
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  Speaker 3: beloved over the years. Anyway, Okay, so in other bizarro,
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  Speaker 3: Orange County News and Emily, I saw this post and
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  Speaker 3: I am so bombed. I don't know who reposted this,
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  Speaker 3: but they reposted Alexis Is either it must have been
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  Speaker 3: a story that Alexis put up there, but and I
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  Speaker 3: don't know what account it was, and I'm so sorry,
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  Speaker 3: but essentially Alexis and Johnny Jay, she took to her
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  Speaker 3: Insta and was like just having a laugh over this
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  Speaker 3: incident that happened in her kitchen, which is that she
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  Speaker 3: made banana bread and she went to go remove it
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  Speaker 3: off of the counter and it dropped on the ground
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  Speaker 3: from the counter and now it's splat on the ground,
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  Speaker 3: and the world needs to know, and they and I.
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  Speaker 1: Can hear her fucking cackle.
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  Speaker 3: No, it was out of control. She's like, Johnny, Johnny,
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  Speaker 3: Johnny Jay, I don't know, like I want you to
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  Speaker 3: see it because I want you to So how do
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  Speaker 3: you do her cackle because okay.
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  Speaker 1: I don't even remember. That was fucking ace.
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  Speaker 3: It was something along those lines, yeah, Johnny the banana
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  Speaker 3: bread and then she was like, I just worked two hours,
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  Speaker 3: you guys on this banana bread bl and then all
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  Speaker 3: the ground and then she comes back to the stories.
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  Speaker 3: It's like, Johnny Jay, say it again, say it again,
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  Speaker 3: and he's like, I've never eaten food off the ground before.
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, you guys are fucking insane.
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  Speaker 2: Guys are At least he didn't make like a banana
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  Speaker 2: innuendo joke.
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  Speaker 1: That's where I thought that was going.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, oh god, so please please forgive the hard drag.
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  Speaker 3: But it needed to be done because you know, when
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  Speaker 3: I'm looking at this, it's like, this is if I
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  Speaker 3: were to rewrite the actual words to what she's saying,
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  Speaker 3: this would be what it is. It would be more like,
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  Speaker 3: look at our love. It's so real. We have so
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  Speaker 3: much funny Johnny Jake, it's so fun. We're having so
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  Speaker 3: much fun. We're so in loveful engage old Johnny j
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  Speaker 3: What did you say? Because we're so in love, we
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  Speaker 3: love each other. Love is real. It's so real, you know.
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  Speaker 3: That's what I hear. That's what it is.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Oh yeah, yea, that's all I hear. I mean
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  Speaker 2: that is like I don't even hear what she says anymore.
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  Speaker 1: I just hear that. Well I do.
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  Speaker 2: I do kind of listen to what she says because, uh,
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  Speaker 2: but not only when she's in a mood. I listen,
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  Speaker 2: but when she starts thinking like this is a light.
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  Speaker 1: Fun moment, I'm like, oh shit, here we go.
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  Speaker 3: Here, it's all it's off to the races, you know. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: it's just that person who's just trying so hard.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my god. But there's a pay like she Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I don't understand it, like why she she and people
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  Speaker 1: are receptive to it.
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  Speaker 2: That's what I don't get. Like there are people that
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  Speaker 2: are like, yeah, I want to hang out with this more.
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  Speaker 1: I want to get engaged to that.
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  Speaker 3: I can't. I have to remember that yesterday when we
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  Speaker 3: were reporting. I don't know what we were talking about,
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  Speaker 3: but remember when Deanna said, we were talking about Alexis
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  Speaker 3: and Johnny. Jane were like, oh, they're pretty much meant
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  Speaker 3: for each other, right, and Deanna said, yeah, they're on
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  Speaker 3: the same vibration and it's low. It's a low vibration.
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  Speaker 1: It's her laugh, the vibration of her laugh. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so that's fun. Now. In other great news, jan
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  Speaker 3: Nada Hadid has made an appearance on Kada Digest. So
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  Speaker 3: if you guys didn't see it, I did posted on
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  Speaker 3: my stories. Yolanda Hadid has resurfaced in an Architectural Digest
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  Speaker 3: profile of her new Texas home, in which she's redecorated
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  Speaker 3: with her partner, Joe Jingalo. So she's been with him
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  Speaker 3: for like six years. I think it's been that long now,
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  Speaker 3: which is wild. They moved to Texas and you get
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  Speaker 3: a tour of her house. So go to Architectural Digest
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  Speaker 3: Instagram and watch the video. It's just a refresher of
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  Speaker 3: the Yolanda that you know, we love to see from
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  Speaker 3: that glass refrigerator and now she's got She walks you
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  Speaker 3: through and she's like, this is the the this is
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  Speaker 3: a Texas house.
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  Speaker 4: We have, you know, just relaxed, modern eye industrial we recycle.
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  Speaker 4: You see, these are mushroom crates that grew the mushrooms,
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  Speaker 4: and it's they have to recycle them every seven years.
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  Speaker 3: So these are the mushroom crades that they don't use again.
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  Speaker 3: So the mushroom creates are what we house this inn.
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  Speaker 3: And then over here is where you take your boots off.
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  Speaker 3: When Joe and I wake up at four.
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  Speaker 4: For thirty three in the morning and re ride horses,
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  Speaker 4: and it is so Yolanda, you're gonna just go freak out.
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  Speaker 1: Wall of honey, oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: She's like, like that crystallizes at some point like that
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  Speaker 2: you cannot possibly eat.
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  Speaker 4: Well, then money, we wake up at two am to
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  Speaker 4: eat the honey they bears.
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  Speaker 1: There's so much.
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  Speaker 3: There's so much. It's like when I travel, I like
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  Speaker 3: to get the honey and bring it back. She says
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  Speaker 3: that it was supposed to be a tequila bar, you know,
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  Speaker 3: and she's like, but my partner is seeks your soulber
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  Speaker 3: so that is not appropriate. So we do it to honey,
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  Speaker 3: you know. Oh, and the best is when she says
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  Speaker 3: that they needed a tornado room. If you could just
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  Speaker 3: dial in on her tornado pronunciation, I don't even know
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  Speaker 3: if I could do it. But she's like, I'm not
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  Speaker 3: from Texas, but so I did not know you needed
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  Speaker 3: a tornado or your room.
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  Speaker 4: We need to tornado or room, tornado room.
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  Speaker 3: You know, it's just like the craziest pronunciation. It's just delight.
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  Speaker 3: It's delight for for your ears. And you know she's
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  Speaker 3: got this cowboy hat on, she's got the braids. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: it's just iconic Jolanda Foster.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean good for her, Yeah, I yeah, I don't.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I've often wondered why there isn't another look at Texas
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  Speaker 2: for housewives.
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  Speaker 1: For a franchise.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely, yeah, because that would be I feel like we
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  Speaker 2: need another.
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  Speaker 1: Crack at it. She could, she could be the baseline. WHOA.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think she would do it, do you?
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  Speaker 1: Well, I don't.
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  Speaker 3: For my daughters, Yeah, I don't know. I don't know either.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe she wouldn't.
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  Speaker 3: Because she's found Joe. They've got a very private life.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know. Her kids are her world,
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  Speaker 3: and it seems like there has been a lot of
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  Speaker 3: exposure on them for a long time, even with her
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  Speaker 3: off of the Housewives. I mean, remember that whole Dutch
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  Speaker 3: slut thing. That happened right right right? Oh yeah, yo, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: So I don't know, we'll see, because I haven't heard
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  Speaker 3: anything from her since Dutch slut true.
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  Speaker 1: I mean yeah, I mean like she she's out there enough.
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  Speaker 2: That's why I'm wondering if she would still like to
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  Speaker 2: have some kind of platform.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, would she? Would?
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  Speaker 2: She?
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  Speaker 3: Would she not? Okay? So one last wait, let me
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  Speaker 3: find it. One last piece of news which kind of
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  Speaker 3: rocked everybody's world yesterday on the social medias is that
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  Speaker 3: Mauricio Yumanski is sued allegedly obtaining for allegedly obtaining three
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  Speaker 3: point five million dollars in fraudulent pandemic relief loans. So
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  Speaker 3: US Weekly have these court documents claiming that there's a
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  Speaker 3: lawsuit and his real estate company, the agency that they
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  Speaker 3: applied for and received two PPPs and Care's Loan Cares
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  Speaker 3: Act loans in the total amount of three point five
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  Speaker 3: million dollars. So and obviously this is during the pandemic.
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  Speaker 3: The docs state that the amounts the agency applied for
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  Speaker 3: and received exceeded the loan amount of two point five
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  Speaker 3: monthly salary with a cap of one hundred thousand dollars
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  Speaker 3: annual salary. Per employee. Okay, so there's there's more details
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  Speaker 3: and such. The defendants expressly did not hold themselves out
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  Speaker 3: as grossly irresponsible, and their experience and success confirms they
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  Speaker 3: were not. The lawsuit asked the court that Yumansky and
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  Speaker 3: his business pay equal to three times the amount of
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  Speaker 3: damages caused. Wow, okay, so.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, is three point five three times the damage?
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  Speaker 3: Yes, that's what it sounds like. That's a lot of money.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I would think that he would be able to
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  Speaker 2: settle for less because I feel like they're they're going
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  Speaker 2: hard to get something a little less in a negotiation.
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  Speaker 1: But that's also like there's a lot of.
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  Speaker 2: Wiggle room on that pandemic money in terms of being
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  Speaker 2: able to defend, to defend, like lawyers being able to
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  Speaker 2: make an argument that you know, it was confusing and
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  Speaker 2: it was all that, because it seems like if you
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  Speaker 2: just pay the money back, then all is all as well.
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  Speaker 3: And then it's it's but so then they're not acknowledging
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  Speaker 3: that it was alone at all, That he took this
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  Speaker 3: money allegedly without it being alone, and he shouldn't have
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  Speaker 3: even had the loan or took more. So, when you
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  Speaker 3: ask how is it three point five that he has
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  Speaker 3: to three times of that. It maybe it's the difference
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  Speaker 3: between the what the amount that should have been the
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  Speaker 3: two point five or something like that. Yeah, maybe it's
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  Speaker 3: the difference that's three times the amount. I don't know,
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  Speaker 3: but boy, people are pissed off in the comments. You know,
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  Speaker 3: it's like and understandably so, you know, when you look
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  Speaker 3: at someone who's incredibly wealthy and successful and has, you know,
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  Speaker 3: a lot of money so to speak, in terms of
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  Speaker 3: what we see, we don't know where that money actually is, Like,
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  Speaker 3: maybe he doesn't have maybe he didn't have liquid cash funds,
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  Speaker 3: it's all in right, whatever, which is why he must
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  Speaker 3: have gotten a loan. But you look at that and
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  Speaker 3: you say, all of these small businesses that went under,
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  Speaker 3: I mean, you look at the streets, you look at
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  Speaker 3: all the shopping centers. You see how businesses were affected,
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  Speaker 3: and people who didn't have the ability to stay afloat,
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  Speaker 3: didn't have millions of dollars on their own, and then
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  Speaker 3: this person's taking more than they should allegedly if in
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  Speaker 3: fact that's the case. So I'm really really interested to
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  Speaker 3: see how this is going to wash out, because it's
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  Speaker 3: very confusing and It's also like it shed such a
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  Speaker 3: light to me on like, for example, I wonder if
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  Speaker 3: there were rumors of this happening, did he not? Did
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  Speaker 3: Netflix know about this coming down the pipeline, and if so,
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  Speaker 3: is maybe that affected their decision on why not to
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  Speaker 3: renew the next season or had they known this, this
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  Speaker 3: would have been good for the season because he'd be
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  Speaker 3: going through a lawsuit.
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  Speaker 2: I know this is gonna sound terrible, but I just
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  Speaker 2: don't think this is that big of a deal.
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  Speaker 3: Because the media is kind of blowing it up.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, because I think he will probably, like I said,
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  Speaker 2: make some kind of settlement with interest on the original
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  Speaker 2: money owed. And I do think that, you know, he
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  Speaker 2: would not have been getting things were happening so fast. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: And I'm sure that his business manager and his bank
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  Speaker 2: and whoever was like, just go for the money.
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  Speaker 1: We don't know what the hell is going on. We
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  Speaker 1: don't know if you're going.
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  Speaker 2: To sell a bunch of houses this year. We don't
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  Speaker 2: know what's going to happen. Remember, this was like in
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  Speaker 2: the beginning of the pandemic, so like everybody that could
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  Speaker 2: qualify for it was going for it, and depending on
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  Speaker 2: what you got was what you got so I think,
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  Speaker 2: like now in twenty twenty four, it looks not great
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  Speaker 2: and it looks like, hey, buddy, you took a huge
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  Speaker 2: piece of the pie here. Yeah, but like if you
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  Speaker 2: like kind of like go back, we just didn't know
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  Speaker 2: and it was really confusing.
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  Speaker 1: And he got approved.
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  Speaker 2: So I mean, like he didn't go in the middle
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  Speaker 2: of the night break into like steal the money from
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  Speaker 2: the government or something like.
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  Speaker 3: I agree with you. However, if he like swung for
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  Speaker 3: the fences, you know there's intent there to like, let's
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  Speaker 3: just see how much we can get, And that, in
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  Speaker 3: and of itself, I think is what's the allegedly the
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  Speaker 3: shady part, at least for me when I look at that,
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  Speaker 3: and I think, you know, there's been a lot of
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  Speaker 3: smoke in his area, in his general area, and that's
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  Speaker 3: what's the broad strokes about this is that it can
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  Speaker 3: be very concerning. And I'm just glad that you know,
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  Speaker 3: Kyle on camera, as you pointed out, because I didn't
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  Speaker 3: even think about this, right you pointed this out in
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  Speaker 3: the thread.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, what he said on in the sprinter van last year,
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: Remember she said, I don't know what goes on in
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: our finances. I don't see any of the Mariso handles
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: all that I don't sign anything.
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: And now I'm like, oh, I wonder.
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: If that's why Kyle said that, because they've been looking
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: at this for since then I'm just making up yes, no,
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: But also.
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: She did say she said, yeah, I signed stuff without
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: reading it. Yeah, that's what she said, you know, And
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: it makes sense again. You know, this is one of
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: the things that we've talked about, even just yesterday, because
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: it comes up so often when you're in a marriage
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: and you trust that person, you are going to just
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: sign on the data line. I'm sorry. We have kids
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: to raise, we have got meals to cook, we've got
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: jobs to do. We don't have time to be reading
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: legal documents, you know, most of the time. And needless
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: to say, if you have someone that you truly trust,
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: why would you think, oh, I have to take this
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: upon myself now? Moving forward in life as another generation,
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: certainly we can learn from the errors of women before us,
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: but that's not this, you know, and perhaps moving forward,
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: you know, obviously Erica or every woman who's been in
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: that situation, we've all learned. They've learned their lesson, we've
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: learned their lesson. We've learned lessons from them, but there's
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: been a lot of weird smoke in that direction, and
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: it's just very odd to me. So yeah, big headline.
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: Wonder what's gonna, you know, come of it? And I
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: love to hear if anybody has any insight into this,
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: because this is very specific and I don't know anything
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: about the loans and the PPP loans and all that stuff.
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but we've seen this happening and it comes down
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: to people pay it back with interest to date of
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: what that would be. And and so that's usually again
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: to the point of like trying to get something you
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: don't like, fudging the numbers or whatever. Yeah, I still
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: think that there's I don't that would be not great.
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: But then I could see Mauricio making the argument.
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: Of like I had to predict what my numbers were
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: going to be based on prior years.
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't know. So I'm just saying there's a
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: lot of room for argument.
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: Here, absolutely, and there's a lot of room for reasonable
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: doubt in terms of fraud.
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah I'm doing I agree with you there. I agree
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: with you there, And and it's very easy to jump
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: to a conclusion of like what a what a fraud
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: stir what a you know what a sham?
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: Uh so I'm kind of between the old. There seems
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: to be a little smoke happening over there on him
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: right over the years.
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: Moros Kyle, if he wanted to you just sounded at.
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: I know you're right. I feel like I'm now in
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: her mind and I want her to be protected. So yeah,
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: I you know, I get worried about that. Anyway. Well,
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: that's such an interesting headline. It was everywhere yesterday. Okay,
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  Speaker 3: All right, guys, let's get into our Orange County recap.
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  Speaker 1: Hobb Duh.
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: What an episode, Emily. I'm gonna be so sad when
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: this show is over, when the season is over. It's
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: just hitting on all fronts.
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: Oh my god. Yeah, this season is great.
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: I think last season may have dragged just a little
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: and they're making up for lost time.
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: I mean it just keeps going and going and going.
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: And we didn't see Alexis at all in this episode,
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: which was very funny.
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: I was surprised, I think, I again, knowing where Tamar
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: and Shannon are now based on the Watch What Happens
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: Live appearance with Tamara, I would be I wish I
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: didn't know because I'm so hopeful for them, and the
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: fact that Tamra didn't invite Alexis is pretty surprising to me.
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: It was great, and to have Vicky there was awesome
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: to see them have that conversation very quickly into the
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: Tamra Trader's party. The trace Amigas, I mean, there was
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: such a trace Amega's thread through this whole thing, which
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: was so funny. Shannon, Tamara and VICKI talk and again
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: Tamra explains to Vicky, it's not your fault. I you
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: know it's not It's nothing you did. Shannon and I
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: had a falling out, and then we got more specific
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: about the post that Tamra like because Shannon said, it's
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: the hashtag said friendships forming.
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: The hashtags because our friends are six feet under.
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: And you liked you like that, which means you want
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: me to d.
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: I didn't mean that people were jag.
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: Wow, you should have looked at the hashtags, Tama, you
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: should have And she's like hashtags, and.
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: It's like, sh the fuck would ever look at that?
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: I look at hashtags all the time, but that I'm
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: coming from a different I probably wouldn't if I was
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: Tamra either, you know. So, But now when she says
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: friendships are forming, Alexis is talking about Johnny j right
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: or is she talking about Alexis and Tamra, Like, what
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: the hell was she talking about in that post? Anyway?
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: I think Shannon was a little raw. I think she
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: was like maybe looking for things. Yeah, she was a
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: little sensitive.
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: It was a long day.
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: To Shannon's point, yes, okay, And I think it was
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: a nice way for Tamra to explain herself like, I
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: wasn't looking at the hashtags if that's what you're saying,
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: and that the article, the post wasn't about that. And
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: then Shannon says, well, but that day all the articles
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: were surfacing about how she and John met four days before,
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: so she said, I was super upset about it. So
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: it was just like you said, it was bad timing,
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: and and I like that. Tamra was like, I don't
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: care about that. It's not my fault she's dating John. Like,
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: I don't give a shit about that. I care about us.
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: I just I liked how they communicated each of their sides.
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: I think they both had a point.
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but it was also like, Tamra, don't when Tamar
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: publicly liking it was the thing the public, I don't
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: give a shit what the hashtag said. It was that Tamra,
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: by liking it was clearly taking a public stance and
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: embracing this, while we as a bra.
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: Votation were all like, what the hell.
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and obviously here's one of Shannon's best friends.
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: Oh god, publicly Yeah no, I uh yeah, you really
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: sent me straight there. I mean, honestly, I would be
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: hurt if I was Shannon, I'd be like, yes, stay
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: away from that with a ten foot poll, please just
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: don't touch it.
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And like the fact that Shannon even has to
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: like go in the hashtags to find a reason to
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: point out to Tamra like.
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: It, just like, how does Tamar not get that? Was
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: so that wasn't cool.
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: You know you're reaching when you've gotta like find evidence
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: in the hashtags. You know you're reaching.
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: When Gretchen starts to date Simon. I mean that's gonna
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: and Shannon likes the post. Actually, I don't think Tamor would.
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: Give two shits if that happened.
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: If like a former way I started to teach a Sigmon,
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: she wouldn't care, but.
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: She'd be like, this is great for the show. I'm
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: guaranteed three more seasons. Well, this was wild. When Shannon
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: explained when they were talking about the lawsuit, Shannon said,
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: my attorney offered him a settlement and we knew this,
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: and that John said he wouldn't take anything less.
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: And then well, you know he wouldn't take anything meeting
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: it either, because he has rejected the full seventy five too.
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: He rejected the full seventy five yes, yep. See now
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: I'm confused.
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: Well, we're watching two different timelines in real time. We
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: know that he has rejected seventy five thousand. Why though,
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: because she wanted him to. Basically she would to sign
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: the yeah right, and then in and where we are
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: in the show, there's been a reduced yeah right.
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: But sorry Shannon, no, thank you for that. Because Shannon
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: didn't even want to offer a settlement, but her attorney
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: basically said, this is in your best interest. So John
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: said he would take anything less. Tamra said, can I
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: give you some advice? He wants to clear his name.
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: It's it's not gonna happen. I'm gonna tell the truth.
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: The truth will set you free. You will all see
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: the truth. Now, what what does it look like for
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: Shannon to clear his name? What does that look like?
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: I don't know, I was thinking the same thing.
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: Is it like she stands in the like the town
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: square of Orange County?
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, hery here, I'm outside of Orange Orange Theory and
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: Orange County Bread bread Store. Just to say, uh, Johnny's
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: an excellent human being. He he his boat is the
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: best boat I've ever seen. You know, Like what, yeah,
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: what is she's that show. What is that?
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: Joe, stay on point. You gotta keep keep apologizing.
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: Oh, I'm sorry, I thought that was a joke. Anyway,
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: Archie has crossed over the lavender bridge. He we died
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: his for lavender today for fun. What is she supposed
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: to say to clear his name? What the hell does
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: that mean? It makes it? Can I give you some advice?
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: Clear's name? And and and Alexis is kind of saying
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: that too. She's coming in like I'm not gonna stand
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: for this Johnny Jay, like she's got to clear his name.
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: She's gotta I'm gonna fix his reputation, all this stuff.
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: It's like, what are you guys talking about?
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: John? John? Never John. I just want to say right
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: here now. He assaulted me.
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: On December thirty first with kindness.
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: You didn't let me finish.
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: She assaulted me violently kindness.
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: He was so nice.
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: John took me out on his boat to the middle
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: of nowhere and left me for dead on a gorgeous
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: floating spa. You didn't let me finish. It was a
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: floating spot. They have these things in Orange County.
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: And I died. I died. It was so nice, and
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: they out of shock. Oh yeah, yay, yeah, yeah, I
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: would love to see it. I'd love to see the public.
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: That is something that I would leave my home for
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: higher childcare. I would get in my car and drive
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: down in traffic to see.
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: Absolutely. Yeah, I'd walk in full.
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: Glam, full cram.
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: Uh yeah.
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: So it was amazing that Tamra. You know, then they
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: finally after Chan's like, I won't lie, I won't lie,
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: I won't lie. The next thing, you know, they're like,
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: Vicky is getting choked up, I just want to work.
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: I just want to do the trace Avegas. Can we
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: please just go back to work? And then they do
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: the Trace Amigas dance and it seems like Tamra's gonna,
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: you know, sign back on to doing Trace Amigas. Yeah,
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: I mean I mean yeah, she made it thing like that.
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah she did, And I would be miss led if
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: I were Vicky and Shannon.
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: After that whole thing, I was surprised that in her
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: interview and she was like no, no.
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: Way, no, I mean that could have been cut together
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: with her saying that much later. But still it was
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: funny to see her be like, do the dance and
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: then be like that Dann, that's fucking touch us.
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: Like Shannon and Vicky looked so sad doing the dance.
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: It wasn't joyful. I mean it was. I never liked
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: that thing. I always thought it was like the most weird,
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: that dumb three.
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, because they should they should have done their own thing. Yes,
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: not that thing. Yes, that's what I would have told them,
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: you know, I wish I would have told him that
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: when I saw their probably one of their first shows,
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: I think, is what it was. I did remember telling
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: camera some like, you guys, this is great, don't you know,
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: do more of this, do less of that, and do
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: do it longer? Like it was cut too short because anyway,
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: and I really wanted to say, don't do that. But
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: they had already been doing it and all their promos
• 41:14
  Speaker 3: and stuff like that. They could have done something super
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: cute like uh this this like a booty out and
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: then like hold the orange out, you know, something that
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: would be more for them, right yeah, anyway, Well it
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: doesn't matter, they're not going to be doing it.
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: You tried, Amy, you tried, you tried.
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: I didn't. I didn't. So all right, can we just
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: talk about the game and we'll go back through, like
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: we'll start at the beginning in a second, but can
• 41:49
  Speaker 3: we talk about as long as.
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: You don't call it traders because that wasn't traders, but oh.
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: God, no, of course not. But they go to Tamra's
• 41:56
  Speaker 3: Traders party, and we love that Vicky and Shannon were there,
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: but not alexis love that Vicky and Shannon were in
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: the car and Shannon is venting tammer. I'm just I
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: was in a hole and I'm trying to climb out,
• 42:15
  Speaker 3: and just tammer. I just wanted to put push me
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: back in. Yeah, yeah, voice note, if you could send
• 42:22
  Speaker 3: me that quote, Also, could you just recall it if
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: he was ready standard that I could go ahead and
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: reissue that bill.
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: Well, here's the thing she didn't say voice note, and
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: I had I went into I was in like the
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: other room but still had my AirPods on.
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: Oh so I was like, what the hell is Vicky doing?
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: Like I always go back and rewatch it.
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: But it sounded like they were having two different conversations.
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: But like unhinged. And then.
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: Because I could hear the same ambient sound, I'm like,
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: they're in a car together, what is happening? And then
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: like when I came and then I heard Shannon be like,
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: please pay attention to me. Yeah, I don't know what
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: I just missed visually, but like not seeing it is great.
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: Oh man, that would have been a treat for your ears. Yeah,
• 43:12
  Speaker 3: She's like, please can you listen? And then and then
• 43:15
  Speaker 3: she kind of like realizes, Shannon says to hers. Her
• 43:18
  Speaker 3: inner monologue is like, I can't stop her from working.
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: I can't stop her from working, so I'm just not
• 43:22
  Speaker 3: even gonna try so so I'm just gonna just quietly whisper,
• 43:26
  Speaker 3: just tell me when you're done.
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: I feel like that must happen a lot with Vicky
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: and this.
• 43:33
  Speaker 3: Absolutely absolutely, and god do I love it that? Yeah,
• 43:37
  Speaker 3: just so great. Yeah, and Vicky is coming right from work.
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: Her hair is bent in ways that my hair bends
• 43:44
  Speaker 3: where you just don't care. You just go do your thing.
• 43:46
  Speaker 3: Like she's not quaffed, you know.
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: I mean the fact that she even had a plaid on.
• 43:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's impressive.
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: Way, Yeah, it was very impressive.
• 43:56
  Speaker 3: That morning, She's like, Okay, I've got somebody beatings and
• 43:58
  Speaker 3: then I've led to this specting, this this this trader's
• 44:01
  Speaker 3: bullshit editor what plaid? Okay, great, I'll just crab by
• 44:04
  Speaker 3: my subber plaid. You know, she just was like, and
• 44:07
  Speaker 3: I'm going to start the day at six am in
• 44:09
  Speaker 3: my office, go do some appointments, end up there at
• 44:11
  Speaker 3: the end of the day.
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: Well.
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: Also Vicky's ability to recall we talked about this the
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: other day, just the minutia that she's able to recall
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: in her voice memo to whoever about insurance, like a
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: deep dive into.
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: Just like weird detail and like, yeah, okay, Vicky.
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: That's what gives it the life. You know, that's what
• 44:33
  Speaker 3: really cushions her character so much, and we're able to
• 44:39
  Speaker 3: see that side of her so organically. That's when housewives
• 44:43
  Speaker 3: really shine, like Vicky does when she's a friend of
• 44:47
  Speaker 3: because they don't care. They have to do their other thing, Luanne,
• 44:50
  Speaker 3: same thing. You know, when you have that mindset where
• 44:54
  Speaker 3: you are authentically organically yourself and you're not fully committed
• 45:00
  Speaker 3: to being a housewife, and you can show up with
• 45:03
  Speaker 3: abandonment without the thirst, whereas you've got a Jackie and
• 45:08
  Speaker 3: she comes in and she's a friend of and she
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: tries to yeah, alexis an Alexis. Yeah. You know that
• 45:15
  Speaker 3: book that I was talking about yesterday that I was
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: listening that I listened to, don't pay attention, don't believe
• 45:23
  Speaker 3: all the things you think. It really focuses on creating
• 45:28
  Speaker 3: from a place of abundance. It's all the Eckart Tole
• 45:31
  Speaker 3: stuff that you know of, but it's the way that
• 45:34
  Speaker 3: it's re like, recalibrated and explained is a little bit
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: more simple. But it's almost like if you are thinking
• 45:44
  Speaker 3: about your perfect case in point, if Jackie's coming into
• 45:48
  Speaker 3: the season, if you're thinking about what you can do
• 45:50
  Speaker 3: in this season, you will be a total failure and
• 45:53
  Speaker 3: it'll be a flop for you from beginning to end
• 45:56
  Speaker 3: because you're thinking about it, you're trying to figure it out.
• 46:00
  Speaker 3: All of your thinking is taking you out of the
• 46:03
  Speaker 3: moment and taking you out of the now. Whereas Vicky
• 46:07
  Speaker 3: is one hundred percent in the now her she's not
• 46:10
  Speaker 3: corrupting her organic thoughts with how to figure something out,
• 46:16
  Speaker 3: and she's just plainly her same thing happened to when
• 46:19
  Speaker 3: when it was like just be cool, don't be all uncool.
• 46:21
  Speaker 3: She's not thinking about anything. She's in the moment. She's
• 46:24
  Speaker 3: she's creating this out of the abundance of her life,
• 46:27
  Speaker 3: you know, being in that now space, and that is
• 46:30
  Speaker 3: the secret to ingredient to not only being a successful housewife,
• 46:35
  Speaker 3: but being a successful person or being a complete person
• 46:39
  Speaker 3: in this world, which is so hard to do. It's
• 46:42
  Speaker 3: easier said than done. It's a it's very difficult to
• 46:45
  Speaker 3: clear your mind of all that stuff and just be present.
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And I would I would say there's like a
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: part of that too, where it's like it's like trying,
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: like planning too.
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: Hard because there is a balance. There is like a.
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: You can't help but sometimes go into things with a
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: little bit of an agenda.
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: But it's like, how hard are you going.
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: To lean into that when the water's not going your way?
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: Like that's that's the thing, that's.
• 47:14
  Speaker 3: Where the rubber meets the road where you you know, yeah,
• 47:17
  Speaker 3: how hard are you gonna you keep leaning into it?
• 47:19
  Speaker 3: Are you gonna kind of pull back?
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: And yeah, and see where where else this can go?
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah, So it just is great. So they pull up
• 47:26
  Speaker 3: and then we've got We've got Teddy, who was the host,
• 47:30
  Speaker 3: which was fun to see now that whole like, you know,
• 47:35
  Speaker 3: hello housewives, and Vicky is a very you know, Comedy
• 47:40
  Speaker 3: Central roast type thing. Perfect and Vicky was her reaction
• 47:46
  Speaker 3: was amazing. I mean it was amazing.
• 47:48
  Speaker 5: I mean, I love that there was not even a
• 47:51
  Speaker 5: whole whiff of Teddy and Vicky having a talk. You know,
• 47:57
  Speaker 5: it was just like I'm gonna be over here my
• 48:00
  Speaker 5: work clothes and you be over there in your circus
• 48:04
  Speaker 5: ringleader costume.
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: Ring laiter.
• 48:09
  Speaker 3: So now they're in blindfolds and earplugs and they do
• 48:14
  Speaker 3: this thing where what she did she tap somebody? She
• 48:19
  Speaker 3: tapped Heather. Okay, so and then we start kind of
• 48:23
  Speaker 3: playing this game. We've got several people that go off
• 48:27
  Speaker 3: and have their one on ones before we get back
• 48:29
  Speaker 3: to the games. And you know, Shannon order is a
• 48:33
  Speaker 3: very weak tequila and soda, which again, you know, it's
• 48:36
  Speaker 3: wild she even though she knows, I mean maybe she
• 48:39
  Speaker 3: doesn't know it's probably not a good look to order
• 48:43
  Speaker 3: a drink. Look at what just happened at the other thing,
• 48:46
  Speaker 3: Like just don't order a drink, Like what are you doing?
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: Well, that's the thing, Like that's where it's a problem.
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: I mean, like.
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: I get the situation Shannon is in, but I also
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: in terms of like this show was filming, she needs
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: the money. She is still trying to figure out where
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: she is in her journey of alcohol and sobriety and
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: all that. So I get that, but I also understand
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: people like Tamra not wanting to co sign this.
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: So I see the whole thing.
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: And again, like that initial burst of Tamar at Shannon
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: sobriety was.
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: Aggressive, but I get like, I.
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: Don't want to be on screen or in life saying
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: that this is I'm okay with this.
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: I just I get it. I don't know, but like
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: that didn't happen this episode too.
• 49:46
  Speaker 3: And Tarma was right there when she ordered that, So.
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: I think.
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: I think this lawsuit with Johnny jay Is got Tamar
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: on Shannon's side in a different way.
• 50:00
  Speaker 3: Absolutely. She was like, I've said my piece, I've told
• 50:03
  Speaker 3: you where I stand, I've ripped you a new one
• 50:05
  Speaker 3: in front of everybody on this cast as well as
• 50:08
  Speaker 3: the world, and now I'll just let you do you.
• 50:12
  Speaker 3: She needed to get that out in her camera way,
• 50:14
  Speaker 3: and she did, and Shannon's like, I'm also going to
• 50:17
  Speaker 3: do me and I'm going to order a very week
• 50:18
  Speaker 3: to Kilo Soda. Right then we have some one on
• 50:23
  Speaker 3: ones where Heather invites Katie to her Sonoma event, and
• 50:31
  Speaker 3: here we have Katie trying to apologize and Heather shutting
• 50:35
  Speaker 3: her down essentially about saying like, I don't want to
• 50:37
  Speaker 3: relitigate this. I did appreciate Katie saying, look, I just
• 50:42
  Speaker 3: want to apologize, you know. I felt that Heather could
• 50:46
  Speaker 3: have maybe given her at least let her finish. You know,
• 50:51
  Speaker 3: I don't know was Katie going to like re explain it,
• 50:55
  Speaker 3: like where did you land with this apology? Because then
• 50:58
  Speaker 3: two seconds later, Katie throws he under the bus. I
• 51:00
  Speaker 3: tried to apologize and she caught me off. I'm like,
• 51:03
  Speaker 3: what are you doing?
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: You know?
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought like if Katie really wanted to get
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: her point across, she could have, but she instead allowed
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: Heather to have her moment.
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: And I guess when you're I don't know.
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: It was confusing, and I thought it was unfair that
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: Katie then threw Heather under the bush, because to Heather's point,
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: she was trying to just be like, hey, I don't
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: want you to have to grovel, just let's move on.
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: Like that's how I took it.
• 51:35
  Speaker 3: Oh really, Oh I didn't take it like that. I
• 51:38
  Speaker 3: took it like nothing you say is going to change
• 51:41
  Speaker 3: my mind about what you did. So I don't want
• 51:45
  Speaker 3: to get back into it because I don't want to
• 51:46
  Speaker 3: have an argument.
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, I thought I thought she was basically, yes,
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: I agree with you.
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: She's basically giving Katie a pass to like, yeah, let's
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: move on, move on.
• 51:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think that she should have at least
• 52:04
  Speaker 3: I don't know, I think that I think Katie was
• 52:07
  Speaker 3: probably going to try to explain herself a little more.
• 52:11
  Speaker 3: But that's okay to do. When someone is trying to
• 52:15
  Speaker 3: put an olive branch out to you, then you are
• 52:18
  Speaker 3: going to feel like I owe them something back. So
• 52:22
  Speaker 3: I saw Katie making those steps towards Heather, and I
• 52:27
  Speaker 3: think Heather should have just heard her and you know,
• 52:29
  Speaker 3: heard her out, because then it wouldn't have come off
• 52:34
  Speaker 3: so like shutting her down again, because Heather was just
• 52:37
  Speaker 3: essentially saying like, I don't want to hear your reasons.
• 52:39
  Speaker 3: I don't want to hear your excuses in such a
• 52:43
  Speaker 3: way that Katie took offense to that now again and
• 52:45
  Speaker 3: now she's going to go back and say she shut
• 52:47
  Speaker 3: me down, blah blah blah. But but whatever the case,
• 52:50
  Speaker 3: I did appreciate Heather inviting her and wanting to move on.
• 52:55
  Speaker 3: Bummed at how it kind of ended up, And now
• 52:57
  Speaker 3: I don't think they're going to get on the same
• 52:58
  Speaker 3: foot eventually.
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: Anyway, I predict those two are going to end up
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: being very good friends.
• 53:03
  Speaker 3: Oh interesting, and.
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: I think Gina will be on the outs of that friendship.
• 53:09
  Speaker 3: WHOA. Well, let's just I will say Heather needs allies.
• 53:13
  Speaker 3: Heather needs people on a cast of Orange County because
• 53:18
  Speaker 3: she's often like on her own, you know.
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: But this season, I feel like she's not. Now, she's
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: better this season.
• 53:26
  Speaker 3: You're right, it is better this season.
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: She still, to me, feels very arms length, like it's
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: funny because Emily acts that way outwardly to Jen. But
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: I think that there's that vibe with Heather unspoken.
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: To everybody where.
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: It's like I have a billion dollars. It can fix
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: every single problem you have and I have.
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: So how's your day going? Like there is an air
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: about her?
• 54:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, of course absolutely. Yeah.
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: And not that I think Heather needs to fix everyone's
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: problems with her money.
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: I think that would be a bad idea.
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: I'm just saying there is something aloof about Heather that's
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: always going to be there.
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: So yeah, I don't know.
• 54:19
  Speaker 3: I just wanted to click with somebody.
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like it might be it might end
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: up being catered.
• 54:25
  Speaker 3: I think that would be great. I hope you're right,
• 54:27
  Speaker 3: because because I want to see Heather in a different way.
• 54:31
  Speaker 3: She's always on her own island, despite like it's definitely,
• 54:34
  Speaker 3: like you said, better this season than it was before.
• 54:37
  Speaker 3: And I if she can't be cast in Beverly Hills,
• 54:42
  Speaker 3: you know, and she stays here in Orange count I
• 54:43
  Speaker 3: would love to see her on Beverly Hills. I've said
• 54:45
  Speaker 3: that before. We've said that, But if she stays here,
• 54:48
  Speaker 3: I need her to have more, you know, a Laverne
• 54:52
  Speaker 3: and Shirley, like I need her to have how everybody
• 54:55
  Speaker 3: else has their person, you know, Emily and Gina have
• 54:57
  Speaker 3: their friendship, and Shannon and for better or Worse or
• 55:01
  Speaker 3: Trace and Megas, like there is all of this happening,
• 55:04
  Speaker 3: and Heather's always just singularly on her own but with
• 55:09
  Speaker 3: other people so in a group. But I want her
• 55:11
  Speaker 3: to have that, And I hope you're right. I hope
• 55:13
  Speaker 3: it is Katie. That would be great. Yeah, Now Emily
• 55:18
  Speaker 3: talks to Jen and this was wild and we did
• 55:21
  Speaker 3: see a little snippet of this when she and Shane
• 55:24
  Speaker 3: were spray tanning each other, which was very funny. And God,
• 55:28
  Speaker 3: God love Emily for putting it all out there. Just
• 55:31
  Speaker 3: you know, when you're getting a spray tand it's not
• 55:34
  Speaker 3: you know, you are vulnerable, you know what I mean,
• 55:37
  Speaker 3: It is all out so good for her. But she
• 55:42
  Speaker 3: talks to Jen, and I really did love this conversation.
• 55:46
  Speaker 3: Emily took full responsibility. She apologized to Jen. She said
• 55:50
  Speaker 3: she was doing some soul searching and for Jen. I'm
• 55:54
  Speaker 3: sorry for Emily to recognize in her conversation with Shane
• 55:58
  Speaker 3: that Jen remind her of her mother was quite an
• 56:03
  Speaker 3: enlightening moment.
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: I mean, like, we don't see a lot of that
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: that quickly, even like that from housewives in general. So
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: I mean, I do really love Emily and after this
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: and watching Jen receive it too, by the way, I
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: had an appreciation for Jen same.
• 56:28
  Speaker 3: Absolutely I agree. She really you can tell that she's
• 56:32
  Speaker 3: present in the moment and she's listening and things are computing,
• 56:39
  Speaker 3: she's taking stuff in. Yeah, sometimes she's not always gonna
• 56:43
  Speaker 3: get it. But I really enjoyed this conversation. We have
• 56:47
  Speaker 3: two opposite people, you know. And Jen was essentially accepting
• 56:52
  Speaker 3: her apology but calling her out saying like, but it's
• 56:54
  Speaker 3: the same but just so you know, I feel like
• 56:57
  Speaker 3: I'm beneath you. You're making me feel as if I'm
• 56:59
  Speaker 3: beneath you because of money. And Emily really put the
• 57:03
  Speaker 3: kabash on that, saying, like, I never judge anybody on
• 57:05
  Speaker 3: that I grew up poor, and for her to explain
• 57:09
  Speaker 3: to Jen, saying, You're in a space right now where
• 57:12
  Speaker 3: you had so many people always taking care of you
• 57:15
  Speaker 3: your whole life into your adulthood, and I'm the exact opposite.
• 57:19
  Speaker 3: So you were trying to figure out life for the
• 57:21
  Speaker 3: first time, whereas I've had to figure it out from
• 57:23
  Speaker 3: the jump. Nothing was ever given to me, you know,
• 57:26
  Speaker 3: no lunch money, no lunch you know. Just hearing that
• 57:30
  Speaker 3: is like she had to Yeah.
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: I was surprised that Emily also didn't say more about
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: the mom stuff, because that's really what it came down to,
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: the projecting her mom's stuff on Jen, and like, and
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: I mean, like I have mom stuff, So I totally
• 57:45
  Speaker 2: got it, and I was just like, I wanted her
• 57:48
  Speaker 2: to explain it to Jen because then I think Jen
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: could say and defend herself because I think Jen is
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: a good mom from what we've seen. I mean, yeah,
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: but like, yeah, she does it does seem like the
• 57:59
  Speaker 2: thing said Emily wishes that she got from her mom
• 58:02
  Speaker 2: in terms of things that she does with Annabel or
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: whatever Jen.
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: We see Jen is very affectionate with her kids and
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: very hands on.
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: So I wanted Jen to be able to clarify that
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: for Emily, like, yeah, but I'm not like that, or
• 58:19
  Speaker 2: you know, like I just wanted to see Jen be
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: able to defend.
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: Herself to Emily's whole picture of what this is.
• 58:29
  Speaker 3: I do in the past, and I've said this before,
• 58:32
  Speaker 3: I know that Jen is a good mom in so
• 58:35
  Speaker 3: many ways. I have had a major problem though, where
• 58:38
  Speaker 3: I do feel I have had major issues with her
• 58:42
  Speaker 3: and the choices that she's made being a mom comes
• 58:46
  Speaker 3: down to Ryan and really well, but it comes down
• 58:50
  Speaker 3: to her because that's her choice, right, That's her.
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: Choice, That's what I'm saying with her choice with Ryan, and.
• 58:54
  Speaker 3: It's her choice that she left her stake, brought her
• 58:59
  Speaker 3: kids to a whole news state and wanted to you know,
• 59:03
  Speaker 3: all this she hasn't lived, you know, she hasn't done
• 59:05
  Speaker 3: anything versse else. She wants to have this independency and
• 59:07
  Speaker 3: that's great, but you're taking a whole crew of dependence
• 59:11
  Speaker 3: with you who and this is very I think reckless
• 59:15
  Speaker 3: like that. So that's where I don't think that she's
• 59:17
  Speaker 3: been a good mom in that way by making these decisions.
• 59:20
  Speaker 3: I think those have been poor decisions. In the end,
• 59:24
  Speaker 3: it'll all work out, you know what I'm saying, like,
• 59:26
  Speaker 3: and she's learning. But that's where the naivete comes into
• 59:30
  Speaker 3: play for me, where I think you're making huge decisions,
• 59:35
  Speaker 3: sweeping life changing decisions when you have a zero foundation
• 59:40
  Speaker 3: on what it's like to live on your own or
• 59:42
  Speaker 3: what the real world is actually like, and you're taking
• 59:44
  Speaker 3: innocent people along with you. That's where I have an issue.
• 59:47
  Speaker 3: So but I know that, like on the day to
• 59:51
  Speaker 3: day basis, I'm sure she's been an amazing mom, like
• 59:53
  Speaker 3: of course, so, but those are the things that I'm
• 59:55
  Speaker 3: talking about that I have a problem with. And it
• 59:59
  Speaker 3: was really sweet when Jen said, you know, I want
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 3: to surround myself with empowered women, and I've always admired Emilyine,
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 3: so it really hurt. I get it. She she's basically
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 3: like an adult in training, you know, because she hasn't
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 3: had this experience before and now she's got this nightmare
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 3: of a situation with Ryan, which by God, that's going
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 3: to be unfolding as soon as next week.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 2: It looks like, yeah, or was that the next week's
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: episode or is that the season season trailer?
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 3: It might be the what am I saying? Season one?
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 3: I love this new franchise? Yeah, okay, So that they
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 3: had a great talk and that was all good, and
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 3: they had everybody had their one on ones. But now
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 3: let's just finish up by talking about the games they
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 3: played for the Traders. So the game they played about
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 3: the like who knows the Housewives game? And it was
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 3: so funny because it seemed like it was couldn't cause
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 3: a problem, but whoever the answer was. Everyone was so
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 3: jazzed about kind of why, Yeah, who's the most deceitful?
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: I won?
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 3: I picked me. You know, it really surprised me.
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: Oh you know, the producers were pissed.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, can we cut guys? She just said it
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: sold your asshole? Can you be upset about this?
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Johnny j Johnny Jake, Johnny Jake. That was hilarious.
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 3: I love that they were embracing that though the line
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 3: Jen calling out Shannon for all the times that she
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 3: should be the one nominated for like you know, that
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 3: was gonna be their choice. The gen was so like,
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 3: we're gonna pick you. I mean, I didn't expect that
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 3: from her personality, and Shannon's just like, well, I mean,
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 3: you know who drinks the most. And Jen's like, I'm sorry,
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 3: but we're gonna have to go with I hate and
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 3: then yup, Shannon got it.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 3: You know, it's just like we're talking about a DUI
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 3: hit and run here. We've now made light of it.
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: Oh to that.
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 2: Point real quick, going back to the beginning, I will
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 2: say I really appreciated Shannon not taking the bait on
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 2: the humming, the blowing and humming and.
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: Making that into a joke.
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 2: When she was getting the breathalyzer and sawed in her car,
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 2: she was like dead on serious and not like grabbing
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 2: onto any of that.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: To do bits about.
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 2: She was like, okay, so I'm gonna blow hard and
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 2: hum got it great, dead face, got it on it.
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 3: Like I'm glad that Steve, her CEO of Reel for Real,
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 3: was there, because if any other housewife was there, we
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 3: would lose the importance of that situation. Yeah, Like if
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 3: Thicky was There's like she'd totally be like oh no, oh, gosh,
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 3: blow it ubby, you know, Shannon, you know, I mean,
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 3: anybody would have grabbed onto that. You're right. That was
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 3: amazing to see that whole process happened, right, Love that
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 3: we had the instructor on camera, the tech explaining it
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 3: to her, and he was so kind because he was like, yeah,
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 3: this happens to a lot of people, you.
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: Know, Yeah, he was. He was like a shaman of breathalyzers.
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: It's just like we're gonna sit back, blow low home
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: and the.
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 3: Whole like while you're driving, it's gonna pop up on you.
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 3: When I'm driving, I have to do it again. It
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 3: was stressing me out because the whole user error thing
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 3: is terrifying if you are completely innocent.
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and you have to go get it reset. Oh man. Yeah.
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: But anyway, back to Traders.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 3: Back to Traders, and so they play that first round
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 3: of games.
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: Yes, the one thing with that too that was weird.
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 2: That also nobody acknowledged and I bet we see it
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 2: in a flashback.
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 1: Because I bet, but Katie didn't even register. It was
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: when Gina threw Katie. She's like the person that's most deceptive, Katie,
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: And it was like crickets because they're like, who's Katie,
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: Oh her, who is.
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 3: Nobody crickets speaking of crickets, right exactly, Katie, Katie. It
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 3: was like water water off a duck's back, oil off,
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 3: oil off a ducks back. I feel like water off
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 3: a duck's back.
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there you go. The crickets.
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 3: The crickets were amazing. That was so funny.
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: I loved it.
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 3: They all freaked out Gina and everyone's reaction was hilarious.
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 3: And then of course Emily and just taking these crickets
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 3: and just eating them. One ended up on Tamra's face.
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 3: She shook it off like a pro.
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: Well.
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 2: See, I think Emily sealed her fate to never be
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 2: on the actual traders in that moment, whereas Gina is
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 2: probably to get a call right away because they want people,
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 2: not that Gina meant to do this, but they want
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 2: people that are going to react like that in like
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 2: yeah the cabin when they have to like gather the
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 2: mud and get you know what I mean, Like they
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 2: want that fear factor element going on.
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I was like, oh, Gina, great audition for traders.
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 2: I thought they all did a great job, but I
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 2: mean authentically screaming and running from a cricket.
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 3: That was so funny. Oh man, that was funny. And
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 3: then we get the murders. That was hilarious. When Tara
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 3: was murdered first and it's her party, she was on Traders, she.
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: Was accidently accident.
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 3: And the fact that Teddy screwed that up that would
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 3: be hard to like point, I don't know, yeah, but anyway,
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 3: that was so so funny. And then Shannon is murdered
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 3: and that was confusing because it was like, who was
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 3: supposed to be murdered?
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: Vic?
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 3: He was, and then oh, Vicky was murdered second as
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 3: a just because that was the person it was supposed
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 3: to be murdered.
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: Heather was like, oh sorry, spoiler alert, it was Heather
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: was the trader. Yeah, yeah, like Heather had some.
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 2: Plan that this was really gonna throw everybody off that yeah,
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 2: she murdered.
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: I don't know, yeah, I didn't get it.
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 3: But then it was so it was camera, then Vicky,
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 3: then Shannon, and then the discovery that Tamra had where
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 3: she's like the chiesa Magas are dead. What a metaphor
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 3: for this whole season and what's going on in real time?
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 3: It was just it really was as everybody says, Chef's
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 3: kiss very funny.
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: The in memoriam was amazing.
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 3: Thank you for remembering that.
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I was very well done.
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 2: And thank you for basically the editors for giving all
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 2: the Bravo accounts an easy place to screen, uh you know,
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 2: record of blowouts.
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it was all the little package. Yeah, it was
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 3: really fun to watch. And then they did the game.
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 3: They were gonna do the game boat race, and this
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 3: shocked me to my core when they started walking towards
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 3: the pool and then Teddy says, the good thing is
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 3: is that Tamra is dead and then she gets pushed
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 3: in the pool. I was like, holy shit, who just
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 3: pushed Tamar on the pool? I didn't know pushed her.
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 3: I had to like go back and holy shit. I
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 3: was like, Tamar shook that off like a true pro
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 3: because a lot of people would have been so tested.
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: Oh you think so, yeah, she had to have her
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: mic off?
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 2: Did Yeah she wasn't my I mean like they would
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 2: have acknowledged the mic, you know they always do now
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 2: when they're like.
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: I had my microphone on.
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 2: No, Tamar and Teddy are not paying for a six
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 2: mouth and Bler microphone or whatever those mics cost.
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 3: Well, they're not gonna make them pay for that. Anyway.
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: They were starting. Don't you remember that that was like a.
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 2: Thing that they were going to make going through microphones
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 2: on Housewives?
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: Yes, oh really.
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 2: Because they kept getting they kept getting wasted and jumping
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 2: in the pool with them, and so they were going
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 2: to build them off their pay for the microphones.
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 3: Okay, So so Teddy and Tarma obviously are very tight.
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 3: They do to test in a pod. So you think
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 3: they plan that.
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 2: I know, Yes, Tamara was like, yeah, yeah, yeah, push me,
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 2: push me, I'll take my microphone off, We'll go out
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 2: there and just yeah.
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 3: I would actually feel better about it if it was planned.
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: It was totally planned.
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 3: It was cold, and it was they were She was
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 3: so decked out, you know, and.
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, that was totally like those two at A
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 2: producer knew for sure, because Tamra would have been passed
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 2: to your point, Oh.
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 3: No, she'd be I don't know, Okay, I'm on the
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 3: fence whether it's plan or not. What do you guys think?
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 3: Was it planned or not? Because that's a I think
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 3: most people would be pissed, But Tamra is a really
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 3: good sport when it comes to this. Shit. And I
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 3: think she also would not have wanted to get pissed
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 3: at Teddy because that's like her bestie. So I don't
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 3: think she'd want Teddy to look bad. I also don't.
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 3: I also think that she's game for anything, and she can,
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 3: like you know, pivot when things happen. That's why she
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 3: was a good sport about it, and she made the
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 3: best of it, because that's what she's a great reality.
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: Star she is. But that's the kind of thing too,
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 1: that you would hitchin.
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 2: That's a perfect reason to actually be pissed if it
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 2: was if she didn't know it was going to happen,
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 2: and she.
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: Would have leaned into that too. I don't care if
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: it's Teddy or.
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 3: Then why didn't she make a big deal about it?
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 3: If it was planned, why wouldn't they make more of
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 3: a drama out of it instead of her just being
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 3: cool with it.
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 1: I think because she's not an actress.
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 2: I think that they just planned it and it was
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 2: a moment and then they just kept.
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 3: Going, God, I'm really on the fence about this.
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 1: I'm really in the pool about it.
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 3: Okay, Well, at the end, oh wait, after she got
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 3: pushing the pool and she's climbing out, and then everyone's like,
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 3: I'm getting away from this pool. I don't want to
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 3: go in, and then Shannon goes, I'm on antibiotics. Did
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 3: you hear that?
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well she think coughing the whole season so far.
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 3: Oh right, when she was doing that breathalyzer. Shit, Yeah,
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 3: that was like.
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 1: Other episodes too. Yeah, it's it's I'm.
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 3: Worried, it's wet, it's a wet call. It's a wet
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 3: deep cough. It is like pneumonia. Yeah, yeah, freaking god,
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 3: she's such a superstar. It's reticulous. So then they go
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 3: back and they're all guessing who the trader is and
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 3: everyone pretty much almost everyone guessed Emily, which is great,
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 3: and then Tamra and Vicki guest Heather, which was good,
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 3: and it's Heather.
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, but I loved it. I uh, I
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 1: felt bad. Look, if you've never seen Traders, this is
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 1: not Traders.
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you can't. Like when you saw them pull in
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 3: with those SUVs at the same time, and that was awesome.
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 3: That was awesome. So that's Traders, you guys, like, that's
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 3: gonna get your rubbed up, get into it. I can't
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 3: wait when is the next thought coming?
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 1: Oh, well, they filmed it. I don't know, it's got
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 1: to be soon. I also thought, like Tamara didn't wear
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 1: all of the Traders outfits, she could have loaned those
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 1: out to people to wear, like I.
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 3: Because we were probably alone. She probably didn't keep any
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 3: of that stuff.
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 1: That's true, that's true. But I did like all their
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 1: all of them getting into it. I thought they all
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 1: looked so cool, Scottish, very loved it. I was surprised
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 1: that there wasn't more Kilts represented esting, but I guess
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 1: it was too cold.
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 3: M oh right, because they'd have to wear no underpants.
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 3: You're saying, well, they.
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 1: Could wear under I would have allowed it.
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I just want to before we wrap it up,
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 3: I want to mention Katie and her daughter Kylie. We're
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 3: hearing more about the story that so Kylie is going
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 3: to change her last name to Janella, which is Katie's
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 3: husband's name, which is that's her stepdad's last name, right right,
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 3: And we found out that Kylie's biological dad years ago,
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 3: when Katie's mom had cancer, he didn't want one of
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 3: their boys to see Katie's mom something yeah, and so
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 3: Kylie sent him a message text saying it was selfish
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 3: and then that was it. Like after that, he just
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 3: never spoke to her again.
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it doesn't sound good like I guess like that. Yeah,
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 2: I had questions. I was like, well, why is Katie's
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 2: son not living with her?
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 3: But it sounds like he chose Yeah, like Tamra's situation,
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 3: he chose his dad and the other kids chose their mom. Right,
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 3: And then we had that alternate scene with Tamar and
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 3: Sophia talking about how two of her kids chose her
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 3: and one chose their father.
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 1: Right, Sydney, I think, yeah, yeah, divorce is very difficult.
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's also like I was confused on the
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 2: timeline with like Tamer's kids are older, well in the
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 2: state of California, I I could be wrong. I think
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 2: at fourteen you can choose what parent you live with,
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 2: but I don't know about Katie's origin state.
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 1: And then like, at what age the child can choose?
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 2: But I thought her kids were younger, But maybe I'm
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 2: wrong on that when they could choose, like I thought
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 2: her kids couldn't. So to that point, I was like,
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 2: That's where I.
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 3: Was also confused about when this took place. And I
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 3: remember it felt like it was six years ago. And
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 3: if you take it if she's in high school, she's forty. No,
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 3: I'm saying Kylie was in high school.
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 1: Oh god, I got it.
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 2: So if you well, because Katie said she got married
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 2: at twenty one, she was really young.
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 3: Right then there was right. So I'm like they must
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 3: have been married for a really long time for this
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 3: to have just occurred. I mean when I say just,
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 3: I mean within ten years, because it seemed like it
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 3: would have been longer than that. So I I am
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 3: with you on that where the timeline and maybe we'll
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 3: figure that out as we go. But yeah, there's a
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 3: lot of missing information.
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 2: And so there is a picture I saw online of
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 2: Katie with one of her sons when he is like two.
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 1: It is the cutest picture of a child I've ever
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 1: seen in my life. And I'm just gonna say that
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 1: I'll send me if I can find it again. I
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 1: was just like, oh, I was like speech, this child
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 1: was so adorable.
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  Speaker 3: Oh my god, was he cuter than the cat that
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  Speaker 3: I showed you the other Daynette from Rory, Yeah, from
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  Speaker 3: Roy to the Rescue, Thank you? That is up for adoption.
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  Speaker 3: That's Monette White. Eyebrows and is black.
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  Speaker 2: He that the the black cat the little white eyebrows.
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  Speaker 2: Very he looks very much like Pete the cat. For
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  Speaker 2: all you enthusiasts, Yes, this child is more cute than Pete.
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  Speaker 3: But nay, I wouldn't have to see proof of that.
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  Speaker 3: Okay anyway, okay, well what a great episode again you guys.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's popping over there.
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  Speaker 1: We are.
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  Speaker 3: We're officially like over on Instagram. Thank you to Emily.
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  Speaker 3: She's just putting in the work. She's showing good at
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  Speaker 3: work and she's doing the work.
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  Speaker 1: He was doing too much work so I was doing.
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  Speaker 3: So thank you for that. Well fabulous. You could also
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  Speaker 3: follow me meet Amy Phillips on Instagram and m daresis
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  Speaker 3: Emily's over there on Instagram and uh so much thanks
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  Speaker 3: to listening.
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  Speaker 1: That us so much, so much.
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  Speaker 3: Thinks, have a great weekend and having great labor day,
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  Speaker 3: Johnny Jay, could you.
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  Speaker 1: Do a lot of labor with Johnny? It could be
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  Speaker 1: cold da