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Speaker 1: What's up, everybody, It's Jeff here. I wanted to let
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Speaker 1: you know.
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Speaker 2: We recorded this Table Talk interview on Monday, October twenty first,
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Speaker 2: twenty twenty four. By the time you hear this, some
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Speaker 1: We got a great discussion coming your.
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Speaker 2: Way, as we always do on our table talk interview shows. Boy,
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Speaker 2: the NFL season is certainly interesting. A lot of really
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Speaker 2: interesting storylines. We're gonna be getting into the NFC East
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Speaker 2: a little bit with a couple teams, yes, the Philadelphia
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Speaker 2: Eagles included in that, and some other lines that are
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Speaker 2: persisting throughout the NFL. As we were wrapping up Week seven,
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Speaker 2: gonna be heading into Week eight, what's this NFL season
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Speaker 2: gonna be looking like in the future. We got a
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Speaker 2: great discussion coming your way. Here we go, joining us
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Speaker 2: this week for a great discussion on where this NFL
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Speaker 2: season is going and again some storylines that we've been following.
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Speaker 2: Here we have from Fox Sports Phillies, the Gambler, the
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Speaker 2: one and only John Jansen, John Buddy, how you doing.
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Speaker 3: Man, I'm doing good. Thanks for having me. I see
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Speaker 3: Penn State in the background there the video, and Penn
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Speaker 3: State's doing pretty well. College football season has been great.
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Speaker 1: It's been busire. That's what a great season like for.
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Speaker 2: Like, I look at the college football season as like
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Speaker 2: some somewhat of a surprise. I mean, we talked this
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Speaker 2: past week on our show just about how the NIL
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Speaker 2: and the transfer portal has really changed. Of course, as
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Speaker 2: we know the dynamic, but there's actually some positive stuff
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Speaker 2: going on with na NIL and the transfer portal where
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Speaker 2: certain programs are learning and they're able to build based
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Speaker 2: on those particular aspects of this new college football world.
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Speaker 2: It's pretty it's pretty interesting.
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Speaker 3: Yes it is. And I think scouting becomes a big
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Speaker 3: thing in college football down because instead of just taking
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Speaker 3: the most productive quarterback, let's just say, from the group
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Speaker 3: of five into the major conference teams, you're gonna have
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Speaker 3: to scout because the most productive isn't always going to
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Speaker 3: be the best for your program. And I think the
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Speaker 3: best example of that, Diego Pavia wasn't the most sought
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Speaker 3: after transfer portal guy. But I think he's been the
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Speaker 3: most impactful. And look at what Vanderbilt has done this
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Speaker 3: season their top twenty five, they beat Alabama. So yeah,
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Speaker 3: it's it's and il certainly is going to help the
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Speaker 3: top teams a lot, but I think it has in
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Speaker 3: a way given some of those teams like Vanderbilt a
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Speaker 3: way to get a quarterback like Diego Pavia out of nowhere. Yeah,
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Speaker 3: and he's become maybe the biggest most impactful player in
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Speaker 3: college football.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely, boy wet we could talk college football here right too.
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Speaker 2: I know all that, Yes, but we're going to be
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Speaker 2: getting into some NFL storylines here, and John, I really
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Speaker 2: wanted to, you know, dive into the Eagles right off
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Speaker 2: the bat. You know where Phillips Words podcast you cover
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Speaker 2: the Eagles as well as you know the Sixers, and
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Speaker 2: you dive into other Philly sports teams as well. This
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Speaker 2: team four and two. As we are, you know, done
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Speaker 2: with Week seven, we saw a dominant rushing game from
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Speaker 2: Saquon Barkley. I mean, they annihilated their division opponent this
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Speaker 2: past week and the New York Giants. And yes, I
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Speaker 2: was actually coming into this game a little bit concerned
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Speaker 2: because the Giants, while they are not great on offense.
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Speaker 2: They're a pretty good defense coming into the game, twenty
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Speaker 2: six sacs on the season, leading the NFL. I was
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Speaker 2: a little concerned about it, but certainly the Eagles took
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Speaker 2: care of business. Jalen Hurts wasn't asked to do too
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Speaker 2: much in the passing game, yet he's still missing some
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Speaker 2: passes and open.
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Speaker 1: Receivers over the middle of the field. We discussed it
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Speaker 1: on our postgame show as well.
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Speaker 2: What are your thoughts on where the Eagles are at
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Speaker 2: right now, both from a positive and negative aspect as
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Speaker 2: we are looking down Week eight now this NFL season.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think looking at the NFC landscape, it's a
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Speaker 3: good spot to be four and two. You just beat
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Speaker 3: a divisional opponent one. I think you're right. I don't
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Speaker 3: think the Giants are good, but I think I would
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Speaker 3: call them competitive.
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Speaker 2: Ye.
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Speaker 3: There are some teams that are just not competitive this year.
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Speaker 3: The Giants are certainly not one of those. They are
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Speaker 3: a competitive football team that could play good defense, and look,
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Speaker 3: they had some strengths that could go against what the
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Speaker 3: Eagles were kind of missing in Jordan Mylatta and left
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Speaker 3: tackle Brian Burns had a field day against Fred Johnson
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Speaker 3: and they kind of had to kind of scheme against
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Speaker 3: that to figure out ways to be able to run
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Speaker 3: with Fred Johnson getting beat and also find ways to
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Speaker 3: throw the ball. And Yeah, there are some negatives to
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Speaker 3: take away from Jalen Hurts. I think the biggest one
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Speaker 3: really was just holding onto the ball too long, something
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Speaker 3: that he does. But I feel like over and over
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Speaker 3: again we talk about the flaws, and there are flaws
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Speaker 3: like he doesn't throw over the middle. He's never done
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Speaker 3: that throughout his career. He will never do that in
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Speaker 3: his career. He is going to hold onto the ball
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Speaker 3: too long because he's not quick to process. That's not
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Speaker 3: part of his game that I think is excelled throughout
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Speaker 3: his career. But there are so many strengths to take
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Speaker 3: away from, and I kind of describe it like this,
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Speaker 3: like I can live with the play to play in
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Speaker 3: consistency as long as they're hitting the big play, because
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Speaker 3: that's how you make up for it. Yeah, maybe if
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Speaker 3: you're not hitting five straight ten yard passes, the problem
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Speaker 3: or the good thing is like you can hit that
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Speaker 3: one fifty yard pass and that really makes up for
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Speaker 3: all of it. Yeah, So as long as Sjalen Hurts
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Speaker 3: is coming up with the explosive plays, and you're able
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Speaker 3: to do that with a wide receiver like a J
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Speaker 3: Brown and DeVante Smith. It doesn't really I hate to
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Speaker 3: say that it doesn't matter, but it's what makes Jalen
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Speaker 3: Hurts good. It's why you pay him the money. It's
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Speaker 3: why he's a fringe top ten or potentially top ten quarterback.
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Speaker 3: However you want to view that, I think it's close,
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Speaker 3: but he's still a quarterback worth paying and a quarterback
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Speaker 3: if that's good. You know, Flawed does not mean bad.
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Speaker 3: Flawed just means he's just not great in some key areas,
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Speaker 3: but other areas he's great at and that's what makes
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Speaker 3: me a good quarterback in the Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely, Look we said on our postgame show too, and
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Speaker 2: just want to get your feedback on this. It seems
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Speaker 2: like this Eagles team in the offense in general, is
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Speaker 2: really becoming just more run based.
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Speaker 1: It's run first.
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Speaker 2: Basically, they have the opportunity and there is consistency in
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Speaker 2: terms of the explosive plays from this team that in
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Speaker 2: fact lead the league in terms of explosive plays. However,
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Speaker 2: when they try to get the passing game going, try
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Speaker 2: to be a pass first team it just doesn't work.
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Speaker 1: And I'm wondering in.
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Speaker 2: Today's day and age in the NFL if that's going
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Speaker 2: to be a recipe for success during the course of
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Speaker 2: the end of the season when we're looking at certain
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Speaker 2: divisional opponents they're going to be taking on, as well
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Speaker 2: as what could potentially happen in the playoffs. I'm not
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Speaker 2: one hundred percent sure. I just wanted to bounce that
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Speaker 2: off of you, because again, they are a run first team.
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Speaker 3: I think at this point, yeah, they should be with
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Speaker 3: the way that they're built offensive line, even the quarterback
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Speaker 3: can run. Sekwon Barkley obviously is an amazing running back.
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Speaker 3: I think they are built to run. So they are
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Speaker 3: a run first team, and you know, all teams are
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Speaker 3: built different. I don't think all teams should be run first.
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Speaker 3: I think the first one teams that work pass first.
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Speaker 3: But the thing is, what you're trying to do is
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Speaker 3: just kind of ease things up for the other side.
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Speaker 3: So I think what the Eagles do well as they
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Speaker 3: run the ball well, and maybe they don't have play action,
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Speaker 3: but they can still bring guys into the box and
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Speaker 3: then all of a sudden you have one on one
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Speaker 3: with Aja Brown fourth to three was a really good
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Speaker 3: example of that. Yes, a day Brown gets wide open,
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Speaker 3: he has one on one coverage, Jalen Hurts throws an
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Speaker 3: absolute dime. And that came off of a fourth and
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Speaker 3: three where the Giants are probably expecting, Hey, this is
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Speaker 3: a team that runs the ball. We have to key
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Speaker 3: on Jalen Hurts as a runner. We have to key
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Speaker 3: on Saquon Barkley as a runner. And when you do that,
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Speaker 3: then you leave guys one on one like AJ Brown,
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Speaker 3: and that works. So I think it just it works
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Speaker 3: in tandems. It's the only thing you're trying to figure
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Speaker 3: out as a team and find the identity of what
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Speaker 3: can we do in tandem that makes each thing work.
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Speaker 3: And I think for the Eagles it is it's run first,
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Speaker 3: run the ball first, and then use kind of your
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Speaker 3: passing game off of that. I think the Eagles have
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Speaker 3: worked in a different way. I think in twenty twenty two,
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Speaker 3: to me, they were more pass first, absolutely, and then
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Speaker 3: they would run the ball late in the game. I
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Speaker 3: don't think that should be the case for this team.
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Speaker 3: It seems like to me they need to work off
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Speaker 3: the running game a little bit more.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I would absolutely agree with you, but I want
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Speaker 2: to stick with the NFC East, John, as we're moving
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Speaker 2: ahead here. The Washington Commanders are playing really good football.
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Speaker 2: Marcus Mariot even had to come into the game this
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Speaker 2: week and take over, and they still murdered the Panthers.
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Speaker 2: And yes, again I understand it's Carolina Panthers, the worst
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Speaker 2: for nothing in like the beginning of the third exactly,
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Speaker 2: just a terrible football team, terrible football team. But I
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Speaker 2: mean they're leading the NFC East at this point. Do
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Speaker 2: you think the Washington Commanders are for real or do
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Speaker 2: you think they may falter down the stretch?
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Speaker 1: What are your thoughts?
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Speaker 3: I mean that's a bit of a difficult question because
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Speaker 3: I don't know if they're for real in this way.
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Speaker 3: But in terms of the NFC East, when you compare
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Speaker 3: them to the rest of the East, yes, I think
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Speaker 3: they're right there with the Eagles and the Cowboys. I
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Speaker 3: think the Cowboys, to me, they don't have the offense.
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Speaker 3: I don't know what it is. I think it might
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Speaker 3: be Mark Mike McCarthy getting a little bit stale. Yeah,
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Speaker 3: other offensive line has always been great. They don't have
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Speaker 3: a running game whatsoever at all, and it relies on
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Speaker 3: Dak Prescott a whole heck of a lot too much.
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Speaker 3: I don't care that he's making all that money. You
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Speaker 3: need to help him a little bit in the running game,
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Speaker 3: and they don't. To me, Dallas like kind of gets
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Speaker 3: out of the picture a little bit, and so to me,
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Speaker 3: it be comes between the Eagles and the Commanders. And
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Speaker 3: the Commanders they're good. And Jayden Daniels I liked, I voted.
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Speaker 3: I'm a Heisman voter. I voted for Jadan Daniels who
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Speaker 3: win the Heisman. I've loved them. I've been talking about
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Speaker 3: him as a Heisman Trophy candidate for a long time
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Speaker 3: last year, and then he eventually won it. And now
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Speaker 3: he's kind of brought that into the NFL. And a
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Speaker 3: lot of the good things that he did, deep ball throwing,
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Speaker 3: accurate throwing, very fundamentally sound, also a really great athlete.
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Speaker 3: All those things have translated to the NFL. The one
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Speaker 3: thing I worry about with Washington, though, is eventually Cliff
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Speaker 3: Kingsbury's whatever he changed within his offense, is it going
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Speaker 3: to get figured out? Because once Kingsbury got figured out
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Speaker 3: in Arizona, and it happened like after one season, right,
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Speaker 3: things started to unrival fast because the offense wasn't good
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Speaker 3: enough and diverse enough. I think now though Cliff Kingsbury
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Speaker 3: has learned from some mistakes, the teams already kind of
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Speaker 3: have an idea of what he does. And as the
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Speaker 3: weeks go on, I know Jane Daniels is playing great,
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Speaker 3: but eventually through some of the things that Kingsbury is
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Speaker 3: doing specifically start to get figured out. And that's where
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Speaker 3: I kind of go. I don't know if this Washington
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Speaker 3: team is ready for all of that. In year number
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Speaker 3: one with Jane Daniels, I think.
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Speaker 2: You make some great points there because you look at
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Speaker 2: this commander's team and certainly they have a history of
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Speaker 2: just faltering even when they get on a little bit
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Speaker 2: of a run. Heck, even with Taylor Heinike, they were
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Speaker 2: on a little bit of a run here and there,
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Speaker 2: and it just faltered at the end, and was organizations
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Speaker 2: and certain teams they just seem to have that curse
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Speaker 2: around them. And next up within our conversation, here is
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Speaker 2: the New York Jets in that same Vein my.
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Speaker 1: Gosh, they just fired their head coach.
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Speaker 2: They are gonna be getting Son Reddick onto the field
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Speaker 2: sooner rather than later. Here they just acquired DeVante Adams
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Speaker 2: from the Raiders and they're still having major issues after
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Speaker 2: just getting absolutely destroyed by the Pittsburgh Steelers and Russell
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Speaker 2: Wilson last night. I feel like they're a very young
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Speaker 2: team and also a very old team in certain ways,
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Speaker 2: and it's all kind of meshing together just not producing
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Speaker 2: the results that they want. I look, I thought John
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Speaker 2: that the Jets would be competing for a division title
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Speaker 2: this year before the season started. That's looking like a
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Speaker 2: very long shot at this point. What are your feelings
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Speaker 2: on where the Jets are at and where they're going
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Speaker 2: to need to or what they're gonna need to do
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Speaker 2: in fact to get out from under the under this
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Speaker 2: curse that they've been under for some time.
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Speaker 3: Yeah. I don't know how they do it this season.
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Speaker 3: It just seems like with every new fix becomes a
11:03
Speaker 3: new problem. I think Robert Sala bying him. I get it.
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Speaker 3: I understand they weren't playing well, maybe some coaching decisions
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Speaker 3: in game that it didn't do well, but their defense
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Speaker 3: immediately regressed as soon as Robert Sala went and Sala
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Speaker 3: under with the Jets was one of the best defenses
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Speaker 3: in the league for like a few years, and that's
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Speaker 3: with really terrible offensive play, not helping them out and
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Speaker 3: playing complimentary football, and he was still able to have
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Speaker 3: some really great defensive numbers. So that immediately regresses and
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Speaker 3: here comes DeVante Adams. But then the offense kind of
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Speaker 3: doesn't know what it's doing and it's still a little
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Speaker 3: bit like doesn't have an identity. Is maybe running a
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Speaker 3: little bit more through Aaron Rodgers when it should be
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Speaker 3: going through Breeze Hall. But they get Devanta Adams, so
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Speaker 3: they need to throw the ball to Devonte Adams and
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Speaker 3: Garrett Wilson because those are two impactful players. Like it
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Speaker 3: just they're trying to fix things rapidly and quickly, and
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Speaker 3: I understand why because they have a forty something year
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Speaker 3: old quarterback that's probably not going to be playing in
11:53
Speaker 3: the next year or two, so they have to do
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Speaker 3: something now. The problem is, though, like you didn't, you
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Speaker 3: didn't have everything ready to go set up for Aaron
12:01
Speaker 3: Rodgers to step in now and for that team to
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Speaker 3: be good. Tampa Bay was ready. I know, maybe there
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Speaker 3: are some things Tampa Bay didn't have, and you can
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Speaker 3: look back, like the hindsight is twenty twenty. I know
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Speaker 3: they won a Super Bowl. So I'm going to see
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Speaker 3: the team was good, that team was ready though, that
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Speaker 3: team had a good offense, that team had a good identity,
12:15
Speaker 3: that team had a good veteran head coach at the
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Speaker 3: time as well, with Bruce Arians. There are a lot
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Speaker 3: of things so like and even Todd Bowles was the
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Speaker 3: defensive coordinator, like they had an established defense too, Like
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Speaker 3: everything was set up that Tom Brady could step in
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Speaker 3: and things be fine. The Jets were not ready for that,
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Speaker 3: and so they quickly accelerated a process of team building
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Speaker 3: that they didn't need to accelerate, but they had to
12:35
Speaker 3: because of the age of the quarterback and the quarterback
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Speaker 3: that they got, and they weren't ready for it, and
12:39
Speaker 3: they ended up making bad move after bad move, And
12:41
Speaker 3: now they're trying to fix it all in just a
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Speaker 3: few weeks, and as we see, it's not that easy
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Speaker 3: and things take time, and there aren't a such thing
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Speaker 3: as an easy fix in the NFL. And so for
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Speaker 3: the Jets, I don't know if it's ever gonna work
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Speaker 3: with Rogers. I just think it became a problem once
12:57
Speaker 3: he came here that they weren't ready for it. And
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Speaker 3: now it seemed like that They're probably never going to be.
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Speaker 2: A very interesting phrase. There's no easy fix in the NFL.
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Speaker 2: We know that as observers, and I would venture to
13:08
Speaker 2: say a lot of front offices in management understand that too.
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Speaker 2: Why the Jets seven come to understand that? We may
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Speaker 2: never know. But I wanted to move the conversation along here,
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Speaker 2: John talking about some intriguing teams in this NFL league
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Speaker 2: right now. For me, the Packers are one of the
13:26
Speaker 2: more intriguing teams in the league right now. Young quarterback
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Speaker 2: in Jordan Love that is still developing. You have receivers
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Speaker 2: who aren't necessarily the most dominant or even the most
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Speaker 2: well known. Same with their defense, yet they're five and
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Speaker 2: two in the season right now. They're taking care of business,
13:43
Speaker 2: with the exception of losing the first game of the
13:45
Speaker 2: season against Philadelphia Eagles.
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Speaker 1: Got to put that in there.
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Speaker 2: But I'm finding the Packers to be one of the
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Speaker 2: more intriguing teams in this league, again because of their
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Speaker 2: youth and because you know, there aren't the biggest names
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Speaker 2: in the NFL on that team. I'm wondering which NFL
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Speaker 2: team has you most intrigued right now?
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Speaker 1: And why?
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Speaker 3: Well, I think because of how quickly they started, like
14:04
Speaker 3: Minnesota just kind of gets forgotten about a little bit
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Speaker 3: because green Bay is starting to get healthy Geordan Love's back,
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Speaker 3: and so the conversation becomes more of like, Wow, that
14:12
Speaker 3: team was really good without Jordan Love, and now they
14:14
Speaker 3: get Jordan Love back, and look how good he's been.
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Speaker 3: So a lot of the tension goes to him. But
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Speaker 3: Minnesota should be getting all the attention. Still. That was
14:20
Speaker 3: a really tough game that they played against Detroit, and
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Speaker 3: they probably should have won that game, could have won
14:25
Speaker 3: that game, but they were competitive in it. And with
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Speaker 3: the Detroit team that I thought looked like the NFC's best,
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Speaker 3: maybe the NFL's best in the last two weeks because
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Speaker 3: of the consistency, efficiency of the offense and Jared Goff
14:37
Speaker 3: specifically with Ben Johnson. But Minnesota played them tough, Like
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Speaker 3: that's a team and everybody just, you know, points a quarterback.
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Speaker 3: But is the quarterback good enough? Is that a quarterback
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Speaker 3: that can take you to a Super Bowl? He's a
14:47
Speaker 3: backup essentially? I get all that. I get all that.
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Speaker 3: That's a Minnesota team though, that has gone to an
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Speaker 3: NFC championship game with case Keenum Like that you can
14:55
Speaker 3: get there with quarterbacks as long as they have the
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Speaker 3: structure and the right kind of offense around them. Sam
15:00
Speaker 3: Donald fits it like a glove, this Kevin O'Connell play
15:03
Speaker 3: action style of offense, and damn there's a lot of
15:05
Speaker 3: talent there. Aaron Jones is still very good, justin Jefferson,
15:08
Speaker 3: Jordan Addison, and Sam Donald seems to be clicking with
15:11
Speaker 3: all of those guys. So yeah, I think because of
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Speaker 3: their strong start, like not at the NFL just moves quickly.
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Speaker 3: So they're not the biggest storyline now through seven weeks,
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Speaker 3: but I think they still should be after that game
15:22
Speaker 3: against Detroit and the other team I want to just
15:24
Speaker 3: kind of mention as well. Buffalo. They get Amari Cooper
15:26
Speaker 3: at the top of the AFC East, Like it's just
15:29
Speaker 3: everything is talked about with you know, the New York
15:31
Speaker 3: Jets being bad, but then in the AFC, you know,
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Speaker 3: Kansas City obviously is going to be talked about Houston,
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Speaker 3: but Buffalo just quietly gets a pretty good wide receiver
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Speaker 3: of Mark Cooper Josh Allen. Since they got to Mark Cooper,
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Speaker 3: that one game in Week seven is the best game
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Speaker 3: he's played probably since like Week two or three, because
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Speaker 3: the last few weeks have not been kind to Josh
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Speaker 3: Allen and immediately three hundred yards two touchdowns and they
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Speaker 3: win thirty four and they score thirty four points against Tennessee.
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Speaker 3: So Buffalo is also an intriguing team, mostly just because
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Speaker 3: with all the off season stuff, they weren't looked at
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Speaker 3: as a highly touted team and even now, I just
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Speaker 3: don't think they're looked at as like one of the
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Speaker 3: AOC's best when clearly, to me, as long as Josh
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Speaker 3: Allen is there, they are.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: So getting back to the NFL talk here, let's talk
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Speaker 2: about which teams may actually be a fraud this season here, John,
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Speaker 2: So for me, I think and they I mentioned them earlier.
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Speaker 2: They took care of business against the Jets last night.
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Speaker 2: Pittsburgh Steelers. They are up there for me as one
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Speaker 2: of those teams that could really easily crap the bed here.
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Speaker 2: Their defense has basically amazingly enough. You know that their
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Speaker 2: defense has been ranked bottom five in the league this season,
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Speaker 2: and bottom of the barrel. Defenses in this league, as
17:56
Speaker 2: we know, tend to kind of crumble down the stretch.
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Speaker 2: Which NFL team do you think may be a fraud
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Speaker 2: this season? I'm going with the Steelers. I know my
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Speaker 2: Pittsburgh friends are gonna be mad at me for that,
18:06
Speaker 2: but still I'm thinking it's the Steelers.
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Speaker 3: Who do you think? Man? We talked about Washington to
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Speaker 3: Washington kind of comes out a little bit for me,
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Speaker 3: just because defensively, I'm just looking at things like which
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Speaker 3: unit could be, you know, down the stretch a little
18:19
Speaker 3: bit of a problem for these teams in Washington. To me, defensively,
18:22
Speaker 3: I don't think they're all that strong, so Washington could
18:24
Speaker 3: become a bit of a problem. The other one is
18:26
Speaker 3: also Atlanta. I think Atlanta's defense is very bad too,
18:29
Speaker 3: so for as good as good as Kirk Cousins has
18:31
Speaker 3: been there within the NFC South Division race, and they
18:35
Speaker 3: beat Tampa Bay as well, which Tampa Bay's at the
18:37
Speaker 3: top of the division right now. And they beat Tampa Bay,
18:40
Speaker 3: but that was in overtime and they gave up a
18:41
Speaker 3: lot of points and Tampa Bay probably should have won
18:44
Speaker 3: that game. But right now they're just getting very good
18:46
Speaker 3: quarterback play out of Kirk Cousins. They're not going to
18:48
Speaker 3: be getting three hundred yard five touchdown games out of
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Speaker 3: Kirk Cousins every week. Then they go up against Seattle.
18:53
Speaker 3: Seattle didn't really have that great of an offensive game,
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Speaker 3: and they still gave up thirty four points. A bit
18:57
Speaker 3: of a weird game, A lot of weird stuff happened
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Speaker 3: in that one, but still gave up thirty four. It's
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Speaker 3: a defense that I don't trust, so I think, to me,
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Speaker 3: I look at those things, especially defense I want to
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Speaker 3: look at and Washington and Atlanta both have defenses that
19:09
Speaker 3: I would have major concerns about once they get later
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Speaker 3: on in this season.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think those are good picks right there for sure.
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Speaker 2: And to close out our discussion here, John, I feel
19:18
Speaker 2: like we're seeing yet again another defensive NFL season, kind
19:23
Speaker 2: of like we did last year. Seems like a lot
19:24
Speaker 2: of defenses catching up to the offensive game, and where
19:27
Speaker 2: the offensive passing game certainly has been going over the
19:30
Speaker 2: past maybe ten years or so. I mean, there aren't
19:34
Speaker 2: too too many ridiculously scored games anymore. That we are
19:38
Speaker 2: seeing some high point totals that we're seeing every now
19:42
Speaker 2: and again, but not like we did maybe a few
19:44
Speaker 2: years ago or so. Seems like defensive coaching again is
19:47
Speaker 2: really catching up to the offenses around the league. And
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Speaker 2: it makes me wonder how the offenses will then adapt
19:54
Speaker 2: to this defensive change. I'm wondering, have you thought about this?
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Speaker 2: What are your thoughts here?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I definitely have, And you know, there's been a
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Speaker 3: lot of talk about this as well throughout the years,
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Speaker 3: because offenses are changing. What was supposed to be a
20:06
Speaker 3: league that was going heavy towards passing all of a
20:08
Speaker 3: sudden becomes very conservative passing. It's a lot of the
20:11
Speaker 3: line of screaments, it's a lot of short passes. So
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Speaker 3: there is a lot made of like what our NFL
20:16
Speaker 3: offense is now, how do they end up becoming more explosive?
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Speaker 3: And the thing to me is always just balance. I
20:21
Speaker 3: think you are going to need the run game. Teams
20:23
Speaker 3: and neglected the running game for a long time. And
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Speaker 3: I'm one guy too, Like I get that because even
20:28
Speaker 3: in twenty twenty two, everybody's talking about, you know, the
20:31
Speaker 3: running game for the Eagles running game, like, well, you're
20:32
Speaker 3: gonna need to pass the ball, and Hurts was awesome
20:34
Speaker 3: in the Super Bowl and so like, the passing game
20:36
Speaker 3: was a big deal for the Eagles and they needed
20:38
Speaker 3: that part of their game. And I think, you know,
20:40
Speaker 3: passing is obviously the end all be all for a
20:42
Speaker 3: lot of offenses. The running game helps out a lot
20:45
Speaker 3: with that, and I think good teams were seeing now
20:46
Speaker 3: Detroit's a good example of that. Sonic and Knuckles with
20:50
Speaker 3: Jamior Gibbs and Dave Montgomery had to say the nickname
20:53
Speaker 3: because it's great. Love love those games. Ye, but yeah,
20:56
Speaker 3: Detroit is running the ball well. Aaron Jones in Minnesota
20:59
Speaker 3: is running the very well. Washington has a solid running
21:01
Speaker 3: game that they're getting. The Eagles have a really good
21:03
Speaker 3: running game. Baltimore's offense looks much better with Derek Henry
21:07
Speaker 3: running the ball for them in a healthy running back
21:08
Speaker 3: because I know JK. Dobbins was good, but he was
21:11
Speaker 3: injured a lot of the time. It comes Derrick Henry
21:13
Speaker 3: and he's been great. So yeah, I think it's just
21:16
Speaker 3: offenses are gonna have to be more diverse this. This
21:18
Speaker 3: can't just be you're gonna be pass heavy. You're gonna
21:22
Speaker 3: have you're gonna be spread out. You're gonna have to
21:24
Speaker 3: be diverse. Like teams are gonna have to play twelve personnel,
21:26
Speaker 3: they will have to split out wide. You know. I
21:28
Speaker 3: think you play to the strengths of your quarterback obviously,
21:31
Speaker 3: and you play to the strengths of what your team's
21:32
Speaker 3: personnel is. But I think diversity in the offense is
21:35
Speaker 3: really a big thing. I think we see that with
21:37
Speaker 3: Houston as well. Detroit we see that a lot, Minnesota
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Speaker 3: we see that a lot, and now I think we're
21:41
Speaker 3: starting to see it a little bit more with the Eagles.
21:43
Speaker 3: Not as much as I would like to see same here. Yeah,
21:45
Speaker 3: but diversity now is becoming a big thing, I think
21:48
Speaker 3: for the NFL, because you're gonna need to either play
21:50
Speaker 3: smash boun at the times you're gonna need to throw,
21:52
Speaker 3: but you're gonna need to give teams a lot of
21:54
Speaker 3: different looks because teams in the passing game, specifically, they're
21:57
Speaker 3: doing very well stopping.
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Speaker 2: Great discussion about this NFL season and various storylines. Again, folks,
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