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Reasons to be excited! · Making The Merge - Survivor Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Now you're sounding rob a little bit, a little bit, yes,
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  Speaker 1: Making the Merge.
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  Speaker 2: Podcast forever, Forever remembered.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. So I kicked Chase off of this episode, and
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  Speaker 1: there's a reason for that. See me and Chase together.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like we bring out the worst in each other. No,
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  Speaker 1: you don't agree with that.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I think it's always helpful when there's a
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  Speaker 3: third to balance out the crazy. But yeah, no, I
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  Speaker 3: don't think you guys bring out the worst.
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  Speaker 2: That's fair.
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  Speaker 1: I just felt like the way the podcast was going
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  Speaker 1: that I needed to suspend Chase for a week and
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  Speaker 1: I needed to bring on the most optimistic member of
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  Speaker 1: our podcast. And I believe that to be you.
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  Speaker 2: I am pretty optimistic that is true. Maybe it's uh,
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  Speaker 2: maybe I'm naive.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe it's the lack of experience that I have on
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  Speaker 3: this show and in Survivor in general.
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  Speaker 2: But I am pretty optimistic. That is true.
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  Speaker 1: It's a good thing and we need that, like you said,
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  Speaker 1: to balance us out. So that's why you're here. And
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  Speaker 1: brand I've got to read a review that it leads
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  Speaker 1: the review it's nice, but it leads me to a
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  Speaker 1: larger point, which is, you know why why you're on
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  Speaker 1: the show today. So it is from Bri b r
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  Speaker 1: E and it says please. The title of the review
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  Speaker 1: is just please. It says, I love, love, love this
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  Speaker 1: podcast I and we'll listen to every episode, but please,
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  Speaker 1: I beg you stop yelling. It hurts my ears and
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  Speaker 1: is unpleasant. I agree. I think maybe we've gotten a
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  Speaker 1: little carried away recently.
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  Speaker 4: Bri, Bri, I don't know what you're talking about, don't
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  Speaker 4: I don't know what you're is this? Am I overcorrecting?
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  Speaker 4: I think it is just a little reaction.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, I do understand what Brie is talking about, but
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  Speaker 3: I also think it's part of our charm.
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  Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 3: Maybe we can cut back a little bit, and by we,
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  Speaker 3: I mean mainly Chase, But I I do understand where
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  Speaker 3: she's coming from, and I will do our best to
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  Speaker 3: try to maybe not yell every episode about everything.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, we were just in a bad headspace when after
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  Speaker 1: Mary at Homes. I think, you know, Brand was a
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  Speaker 1: little more levelheaded the me and Chase. But I think
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  Speaker 1: overall it was just like, we love Mary so much,
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  Speaker 1: Mary got sent home. It had a really bad effect
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  Speaker 1: on us in that twenty four hour period. Now that
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  Speaker 1: I've had a little bit of time to step back,
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  Speaker 1: I feel like, you know, I love this cast. I've
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  Speaker 1: had so much fun this season.
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  Speaker 3: But and I think Bree understands where we're coming from.
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  Speaker 3: It's from a place of love that the anger comes.
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  Speaker 3: If you didn't love something or didn't love people, then
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  Speaker 3: you would never get angry.
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  Speaker 2: And so really you should think of it as a compliment.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that you know it. See, That's why it's why
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  Speaker 1: I brought you on Brand.
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  Speaker 2: See.
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  Speaker 1: And the other thing I want to compare this is
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  Speaker 1: like a look into our mental state by comparing our
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  Speaker 1: podcast titles from last year to this year. So it's
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  Speaker 1: just it's gonna give you a glimpse into the different
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  Speaker 1: headspace that we're in. So here's our forty seven, our
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  Speaker 1: season forty seven podcast titles, Episode eight through eleven. Saul's
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  Speaker 1: beautiful smile, He's thrusting again, Soul's sexy vest, Caroline has
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  Speaker 1: adhd and so do we. And here's season forty eight.
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  Speaker 1: Shut Up and Save yourself twice, the Tribal Double, the Pain, Eternal, demonic, prison.
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  Speaker 1: Time is running out. So what jumps out to you there?
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  Speaker 2: Why? I think.
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  Speaker 3: It's definitely darker. But again, this is what it goes
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  Speaker 3: back to this season. For all of the complaints that
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  Speaker 3: we have, and there have been many and many repeating themes,
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  Speaker 3: if you will, especially over the past few weeks, such
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  Speaker 3: as somebody has to make a move, I think what
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  Speaker 3: we see here though, is once again it comes back
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  Speaker 3: to love.
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  Speaker 2: We love the game, and.
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  Speaker 3: This frustration is coming from a love of people that
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  Speaker 3: we've maybe lost along the way, some fallen brothers and
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  Speaker 3: fallen sisters, and last year there was I think some
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  Speaker 3: more lovable characters that made it a bit further, I'm
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  Speaker 3: getting concerned and I think you are as well, PD,
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  Speaker 3: that we're gonna get to the final episode and we're
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  Speaker 3: gonna have no one to cheer for.
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  Speaker 1: It is interesting if you look, did you see the
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  Speaker 1: episode titles got released? Did you see what the final
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  Speaker 1: episode title was?
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  Speaker 2: Did I saw it? But I don't recall what they were?
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  Speaker 2: Do you have them in front of you?
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  Speaker 1: The first one was Icarus time. That's next week, so
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  Speaker 1: that's interesting. And then the week after that, it's only
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  Speaker 1: one to us is gonna win.
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  Speaker 3: Only one of you's is gonna So I mean that
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  Speaker 3: I don't want to get too far ahead, but that
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  Speaker 3: does lead me to believe that Joe and Eva are
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  Speaker 3: in the finals.
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  Speaker 2: That's what That's what.
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  Speaker 1: I would take, and or Shaheen and Kyle. But at
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  Speaker 1: this point I'm thinking Shaheen.
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  Speaker 2: I think so as well. I have hope that it
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  Speaker 2: is Shaheen.
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  Speaker 1: You might make the playoffs and you're first making the
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  Speaker 1: Merge appearance.
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  Speaker 3: I if you're not first or last, that's the that's
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  Speaker 3: my thought process going into this.
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  Speaker 1: Well, actually, if you are last, you have to read
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  Speaker 1: every Banu confessional. I don't know if we've straight.
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  Speaker 2: But that's kind of a yeah, but that's kind of
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  Speaker 2: a win for me, you know.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess if you're if you're excited to read
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  Speaker 1: twelve minutes of Bonu confessionals, and it's not gonna be
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  Speaker 1: all at once. We're gonna break it up into like
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  Speaker 1: thirty second to one minute installments. But either it's looking
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  Speaker 1: like you were Chase, because if Mitch goes home, Chase
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  Speaker 1: loses the draft. If Shahin goes home, you lose it.
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  Speaker 1: So one of you is gonna have to go through
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  Speaker 1: the entire Banu journey.
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  Speaker 2: This is and it's an interesting for sure because.
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  Speaker 3: Just from a strength of game perspective, I would say
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  Speaker 3: that Shaheen's gonna make it to the finals, but if
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  Speaker 3: past few seasons is any indication, the third the third
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  Speaker 3: chair there in final council is left for somebody who's
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  Speaker 3: not gonna get any votes. The lamb led to slaughter
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  Speaker 3: if you whale, which would be Mitch.
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  Speaker 2: And so it is possible, it is possible.
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  Speaker 3: That I would uh in that in that scenario have
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  Speaker 3: to read the Bondu, which again I do that every
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  Speaker 3: night anyway.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm which, yeah, it would be fun. Last night
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  Speaker 1: I was, I was just going through and looking and
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  Speaker 1: man for somebody who was the fourth boot. Twelve minutes
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  Speaker 1: is a lot of time.
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  Speaker 2: That's a lot that's a lot.
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  Speaker 1: You start not get that much.
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  Speaker 2: He's a star.
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  Speaker 1: PD He's a star, that's right. Bondu is like my
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  Speaker 1: white whale for this podcast. It's never gonna happen. I
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  Speaker 1: don't think he's very online. I've seen him out a
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  Speaker 1: couple of times, like in Tiktoks he's hanging out with
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  Speaker 1: Ben Katzman. But it's hard to track down Bonu. But
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  Speaker 1: one day I'm from making the merge.
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  Speaker 3: The problem with Bonu is he is so lovable that,
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  Speaker 3: you know, he is somebody that I want to see
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  Speaker 3: play the game again, but he's also so bad at
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  Speaker 3: the game, but there's no way that he gets to
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  Speaker 3: play again.
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  Speaker 1: It was very much like while we were going through it,
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  Speaker 1: I really felt like, you know, I was out on
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  Speaker 1: an island. No pun intended, because well, everybody hated Banu.
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  Speaker 1: If you see, the ratings actually shot up after he
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  Speaker 1: went home. Everybody's like, oh wow, he's gone now. There
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  Speaker 1: was there was an increase in the ratings, and it
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  Speaker 1: was like, I think I was the only person who
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  Speaker 1: was like, guys, this is the closest thing we will
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  Speaker 1: ever have to Michael Scott on Survivor Banu's topsat Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: enough about Bonu brand. I want to call this Survivor therapy.
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  Speaker 1: I asked you for your top reasons to be excited
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  Speaker 1: for the last two episodes.
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  Speaker 3: I do want to pull back to Curtin a little
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  Speaker 3: bit here and beyond struggle that this this took me a.
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  Speaker 2: Lot longer than I anticipated.
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  Speaker 3: I was literally I was going I was going to
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  Speaker 3: go into this blind and just be like, I can
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  Speaker 3: come up with something. But then I was having a
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  Speaker 3: hard time, like in my mind even coming up with
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  Speaker 3: a number two. So I was like, all right, let
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  Speaker 3: me give this some proper time. So I have four
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  Speaker 3: four reasons why we, as Survivor fans and making the
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  Speaker 3: merge listeners could be excited about these final two episodes
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  Speaker 3: because it is looking bleak, and I think we can
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  Speaker 3: all acknowledge that that going into these final two episodes,
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  Speaker 3: it's tough to get get excited for us.
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  Speaker 2: I'm in the same boat.
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  Speaker 1: Everybody, and we're trying.
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  Speaker 2: So here is my I'm going to start with number four.
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  Speaker 3: With with only Mitch left on Chase's team, it makes
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  Speaker 3: it almost impossible for Chase to repeat, and that means
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  Speaker 3: that he will almost and this is not good news
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  Speaker 3: for Brie but will almost definitely crash out again, which
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  Speaker 3: is fun for us, And so I'm going to start there,
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  Speaker 3: don't I think Chase has the lowest percentage chance of
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  Speaker 3: pulling off a victory just given who he has left,
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  Speaker 3: and that's great for us.
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  Speaker 2: We don't want him to repeat. I think no.
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  Speaker 3: I think even the listeners, even the Chase stands out there,
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  Speaker 3: wanted to be a little mix up here. We don't
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  Speaker 3: want to repeat, and it's good for us. When he
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  Speaker 3: crashes out, it's fun for us, and so that is.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, if he won, he would also scream. He was
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  Speaker 1: probably screamed more one. I feel like, so Bree, that
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  Speaker 1: you should be thrilled that Chase is not going to win,
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  Speaker 1: because I'm pretty sure when he won last year, he
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  Speaker 1: got on and he screamed for two minutes about Rachel
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  Speaker 1: and him winning the draft. It was remember the Lombardi music,
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  Speaker 1: which I'm gonna have to find something different this year
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  Speaker 1: because I'm not going to use NFL films again. But
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  Speaker 1: I got to do it ones we.
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  Speaker 2: Did it once.
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  Speaker 3: I I yeah, I do understand that. I think a
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  Speaker 3: crash out is always more fun than a victory lap.
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  Speaker 1: Though, right, plus back to back nobody wants Chase to win.
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  Speaker 3: No one wants no one wants that. I think what
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  Speaker 3: everybody wants is obviously for me to win is my
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  Speaker 3: first year.
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  Speaker 2: That'd be big. Okay, number three and this might be
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  Speaker 2: number one, but number three.
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  Speaker 3: And I had this realization last week while I was
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  Speaker 3: watching as David stood up and I was waiting for
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  Speaker 3: something to happen.
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  Speaker 2: Nothing did happen. He was just standing and paying his respects.
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  Speaker 3: But it got me excited for Final Tribal because David
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  Speaker 3: will get to finally articulate all of the thoughts that
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  Speaker 3: have been going through his head as he is just
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  Speaker 3: staring beaming those eyes, those those death eyes at people,
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  Speaker 3: and I can't wait to hear what it is that
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  Speaker 3: he says, whether it's a question, whether it's a statement,
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  Speaker 3: whatever it is. I am here for David talking at
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  Speaker 3: Final Tribal, and I think that alone is worth tuning
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  Speaker 3: in form I wrong.
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  Speaker 2: Here, You are not wrong.
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  Speaker 1: The jury, I was good. This is like the only
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  Speaker 1: the one thing that I was gonna say if you
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  Speaker 1: didn't say it. The jury is one of the biggest
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  Speaker 1: reasons to be excited, because they're gonna be better. You
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  Speaker 1: got Chrissy and David, and you know that they're not
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  Speaker 1: gonna just keep their opinions to themselves.
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  Speaker 2: One hundred. I mean we already we've already heard I
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  Speaker 2: think twice what Chrissy is going to say. She's gonna
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  Speaker 2: repeat it.
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  Speaker 3: But uh, yeah, of course I'm excited for to bring
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  Speaker 3: back Chrissy speaking. But really it's like, I just want
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  Speaker 3: to know what is going through David's mind as Mary
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  Speaker 3: watching all of the and Mary yes, and Mary now
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  Speaker 3: of course yes, But David has just been the past
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  Speaker 3: couple of weeks, David has just been just I don't
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  Speaker 3: even know how to I've never seen anything like it,
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  Speaker 3: just so.
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  Speaker 2: Angry and formative, yes, performatively angry. And I have no
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  Speaker 2: doubts that it's gonna come through in final tribal.
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  Speaker 1: It's not like he's just deciding to do these things
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  Speaker 1: in the heat of the moment, Like when he kept
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  Speaker 1: the same facial expression the entire tribal. He thought about
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  Speaker 1: that all day. He's probably practicing it in the mirror.
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  Speaker 1: And then the state of thing.
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  Speaker 3: You gotta practice it, doesn't You don't meow like that
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  Speaker 3: without you like that, without uh, without practicing it for sure.
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  Speaker 1: And Mary's outfit I feel like Mary's gonna have like
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  Speaker 1: sole level outfits for the jury.
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  Speaker 2: Mary's gonna be fire. Okay, I got two more one
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  Speaker 2: at some point over.
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  Speaker 3: My guess would be it's possible that they keep it
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  Speaker 3: for the final final episode, but it's gonna be revealed.
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  Speaker 2: That Kyle and Camilla have been teaming up. Is it
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  Speaker 2: going to matter?
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  Speaker 3: I don't think it is, And I'm like weirdly excited
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  Speaker 3: for it to finally come out and for them to
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  Speaker 3: just be like, oh, okay, or for David to stand
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  Speaker 3: up and be like I told you. I'm excited to
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  Speaker 3: see what happens when it finally comes out that they've
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  Speaker 3: teamed up and have done nothing with it.
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  Speaker 1: They did one thing, and they broke up Joe's first alliance.
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  Speaker 1: That kind of foiled the Shaheen and Joe's plan for
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  Speaker 1: a second. They got one victory over him, and then
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  Speaker 1: it was just follow the leader for the rest of
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  Speaker 1: the game.
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  Speaker 3: It has been like the biggest not the biggest, but
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  Speaker 3: one of the bigger storylines this season is this secret
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  Speaker 3: partnership of Camilla and Kyle, and every episode they basically
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  Speaker 3: one of them looks at the other one and is like,
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  Speaker 3: can you believe we're pulling this off, and I was
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  Speaker 3: at home, are like, yeah, we can because you're not
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  Speaker 3: doing anything with it.
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  Speaker 1: You successfully pulled it off for like a stretch of
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  Speaker 1: a few weeks, and now it's it's just like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you kept a secret, but there's no there's no need
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  Speaker 1: to keep the secret anymore. It's not like you guys
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  Speaker 1: are plotting anything other than doing exactly what Joe wants.
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  Speaker 1: It's the I think that's the biggest letdown, even though
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  Speaker 1: I'm trying to be really positive about the game today,
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  Speaker 1: because Camilla and Kyle are both people that I was
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  Speaker 1: looking at as like these are the prototypical survivor players.
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  Speaker 1: These are the people you want to draft that are
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  Speaker 1: smart and under the radar and always thinking of where
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  Speaker 1: to go next. And then they kind of just Kyle
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  Speaker 1: really ruined that with his you know, emotional connection to
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  Speaker 1: Joe and Eva.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, sometimes you forget that you had a plan and
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  Speaker 3: you get to know people and then you're like, oh,
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  Speaker 3: I forgot that I had a plan.
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  Speaker 1: Trying to keep positive it is yes, it's real people,
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  Speaker 1: it's real emotions. They're on an island for several weeks,
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  Speaker 1: think crazy things happened to your brain. I'm sure it
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  Speaker 1: was very difficult and Mary, we're gonna talk about it later.
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  Speaker 1: But Mary highlighted that that she thinks Kyle he's a sweetheart,
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  Speaker 1: he didn't want to hurt people and like that, right,
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  Speaker 1: she doesn't fault him for it.
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  Speaker 3: What do you think it's a bigger reaction Kyle telling
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  Speaker 3: Camilla that he's a lawyer or Kyle and Camilla telling
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  Speaker 3: people that they were a team.
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  Speaker 1: I think Camilla's reaction to the lawyer thing probably because
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  Speaker 1: I mean, David sniffed out the Camilla and Kyle things,
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  Speaker 1: so did Mary. And yeah, so other people have probably
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  Speaker 1: talked about it too, and we just haven't seen it. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: The thing I do want to know, and I'm sure
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  Speaker 3: we'll maybe find out it might be after the season,
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  Speaker 3: but have people now that David and Mary are gone?
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  Speaker 3: Is that still a conversation around camp? Is Joe and
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  Speaker 3: Eva and Shaheen talking about this? Are they like do
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  Speaker 3: you think like there was something to that? Was? Like
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  Speaker 3: I and I also like, how much is that partnership
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  Speaker 3: between Camilla and Shaheen because that was one of the
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  Speaker 3: things that David was onto as well, is that they're
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  Speaker 3: you know, Shaheen picked Camille look for that reward or
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  Speaker 3: whatever it was, I don't even remember at this point.
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  Speaker 3: And that's when he was like, there're.
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  Speaker 2: Challe, Oh that's right, that's right, that's right. It was
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  Speaker 2: the challenge when you could pick anybody in.
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  Speaker 1: She looked at me, she was there.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Is it like, are they more of a team
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  Speaker 2: than we've seen so far? You know?
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  Speaker 3: Like I I don't know because we I mean, I
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  Speaker 3: don't feel like we've seen a ton of them working
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  Speaker 3: together or you know, I feel like over the past
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  Speaker 3: couple of weeks when there is the conversation of like
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  Speaker 3: should we make the move? Like Shakeen is always like
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  Speaker 3: in the conversation, but I don't see him and Camilla
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: like really working together. But it's possible that we're just
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: not seeing that.
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: Look, Camilla, if you really want to make this move,
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: then go get a new gigachadchoose Shaheen is your new Gigahad.
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: There you go, he's ready to make a move. That's again,
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: I don't think it's gonna happen, but I do think it.
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: It is still possible that this week is the week.
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: It's a low percentage chance, and.
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: This is even one of my this is even one
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: of my things. But I am hopeful. Call call it naivete,
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: call it whatever you want to blind optimism. Maybe there
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: is a ten percent chance that a move gets made
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: this week and it's led by Shaquen and it brings
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: him to the finish line.
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: I'll take ten, brother, I'll take it.
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: There you go, I'll take that. He finally, he finally
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: gets moving. Maybe he's maybe he sniffs out that.
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: Kyle and Camilla are a team, and he's like, great,
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: I can get those two. Mitch will obviously come along.
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: Maybe not.
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: Actually, I don't know what the heck Mitch is thinking.
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: But if Shaheen can make this move, if Shaheen can
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: make a move, granted, it's reliant on Joe not winning immunity,
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: it's reliant on Eva not playing the immunity for Joe.
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: If he doesn't win immunity. There are so many ways
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: for Joe and Eva to get to final counsel.
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: Yep. And there was something in the preview about the
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: Kyle saying something about Shaheen's trying to flip to Joe.
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: So what's that about.
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: I don't know, it's probably nothing.
• 19:14
  Speaker 5: If if I've seen it allion times it's probably nothing, Okay,
• 19:19
  Speaker 5: my number one, And it gets down to that title
• 19:23
  Speaker 5: episode of the season finale.
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: But Eva and Joe can't both win win. One of
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: Hughs is gotta win.
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: And I think that that's interesting enough theater rights, Like
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: you have these two that have been so connected since
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: day one, like literal day ones. You have this powerful
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: moment on the beach where Jeff cries and we had
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: to see it on social media every hour of every.
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: Day and we all but we all cried. And also
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: it's funny about how everyone feels now.
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: I know we all cried, and we've seen how much
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: like they are truly not only a team, they are
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: as open of a team as I've seen.
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: On Survivor in a long time, where they are just like,
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: we are each other's number one, and we're gonna bring
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: people along with us. But just know, when it comes
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: down to it.
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: It's the two of us, yeah, and two people making fire.
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: At the end of the day.
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: Eva and Joe are gonna have to make cases for
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: why they deserve it more than the other person.
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: And I don't know, like, I don't know how they're
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: gonna do it.
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: I can absolutely see Joe being like I don't deserve
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: it more than Eva, and then him still winning, Like
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: I think that that still is very very much possible.
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: That's the whole thing about Final Tribal is you keep
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: someone close to you, but you're trying to make a
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: couple moves on them they don't even know about, so
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: that when you get there you can be like, hey,
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: so this is my closest ally but they didn't know
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: that I had this idol, or they didn't know that
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: I planned this or whatever. And Joe and Eva don't
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: have that, So what are they going to do to
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: try to disparage each other?
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: Do you think? Like, is there is there a better
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: case for Eva than they're?
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: Like, I feel like perception is that Joe's kind of
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: running the game, But if you look at what Eva
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: has done, Like Eva has gotten a lot of a
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: lot of advantages, and.
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: She's everybody's picking her for rewards and all of this stuff.
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: Like, is there a case to be made that Eva
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: is more worthy to win Survivor forty eight than Joe?
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: I think so. And I'm not just saying that because
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: she's on my team. I think that she has also
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: been calling the shots. It feels like as much as
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: Joe has, you know, freely speaking about like this person's
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: got to go, this person's got to go, and then
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: it happening pretty much every time. I feel like I don't.
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: I feel like her case what it would need to
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: be is and I don't know if she would do this,
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: but she needs to look at Joe and be like,
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: I made it to where this man would die for
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: me and take me through the game and be seen
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: as the leader, you know, and get the brunt of
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: everyone's hate that gets voted out, and then I was
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: able to just make it all the way to the
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: end without much of a struggle at all. Yeah, I
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: think that's what she should try to present.
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: I think it's just it's always tough when you're that
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: close with somebody, though, when you go into final tribal
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: and you're trying to like make a case again, like
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: but it's I don't know, it's it's really tough. I'm interested, Like,
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: I think it's gonna it should make for good theater.
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: And I do think the two of them have obviously
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: played such a close game and it makes it really
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: hard to pick one over the other, and so I
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: think it really could go either way, and if Eva
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: was smart, she'd turn on him. She'd flip, she'd pull
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: a Charlie and she would and she'd get get rid
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: of him like that.
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: That would be the play. But I don't think that
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: she would do that.
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: So no, but Mary, and this is in a different interview.
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: We're gonna we're about to talk about the Entertainment Weekly one.
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: But she was asked by I think it was Gordon Holmes,
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: would you have voted for Shaheen over Joe if at
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: that point in the game, like if you were voting
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: right then, and she said yes because she thought that
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: Shaheen's played the better game. Wowan to do more stuff.
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: Okay, so it's not just like we talked about a
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: little bit in the last episode, but like Shaheen says
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: that he should win, and I'm like, I don't know, man,
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: Like the only thing I know you've done is been
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: in secret.
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: So it's like, I don't know. But if if Mary
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: is thinking it, then it's possible that others are as well.
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: Now we're gonna talk about Mary's exit. Press shout out
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: to Dalton Ross with Entertainment Weekly. The first thing I
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: want to read was let's start with David. Why not
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: we were talking about David on this show. Dalton asked her,
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: what was the reunion with David and the others like
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: at Ponderosa, and she said, I'm going to be honest, Dalton.
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: When I was on that boat going back to Ponderosa,
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: I thought to myself, Wow, I'm really going to be
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: like Venus love a good Venus shout out. I'm really
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: going to be someone who has no friends after this experience,
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: because the last two three days that I was out there,
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: I felt like a pariah. It looked as if people
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: were talking to me, but especially the last couple of days,
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: it was as if people would be infected by my
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: cooties if they made eye contact with me. And so
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: when I was on the boat, I was just thinking
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: to myself, Damn, I'm going to have to go to
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: these viewing parties and I have zero connection to any
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: of these people. So she was already thinking about the
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: viewing parties. That's hilarious. But then when I got to Ponderosa, Cedric, Chrissy, David,
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: and Starr were standing outside and I saw them and
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: she started to tear up, just like Star did when
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: she was discussing the same experience, and Mary says, yeah,
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: it meant a lot to me. It really really meant
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: a lot to me because I thought, Wow, these people
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: actually care after feeling like nobody cared about me for
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: a really long time. So it was so much fun.
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: We stayed up maybe till one or two in the morning,
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: everybody just out there, eating, drinking, talking, laughing. I'm so
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: grateful for my time at pond Rosa because I think
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: I took a beating out there, and when I got
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: to Ponderosa is really when I did a lot of healing.
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: Oh how about that. I gotta be honest, I don't
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: know what.
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: How to like equate one or two am like in
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: relation to like even when tribal is, I have no
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: idea if that's late or not.
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: But she seems impressed by it. So although with late
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: it seems like they were they do tribal what time
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: do you think?
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: I think right after it gets dark and but it
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: doesn't do that in Fiji.
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: I know that's the tricky thing.
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: So really they could do it anytime, because we all
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: know the darkness is artificial, it's our darkness.
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: It was something created by Jeff Probs yeah, okay, guys,
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: if a lot of people probably have no idea what
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: we mean, people who jumped On the last few weeks,
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: Chase Bridges was confused about whether nighttime happened in Fiji.
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: It's a real thing that happened on our show.
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: It's it's still so funny.
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, go listen to if you're new, go listen to
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: the first episode. Because not only did Chase think it
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: didn't get dark, he thought that they decided to begin
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: season forty eight by saying rest in peace to Rudy,
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: which did not happen. But while we're at it, recipes, Yeah,
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: recipes Rudy.
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: I do like the idea of Jeff Probes creating artificial darkness.
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: We all know about AI, but have you heard about
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: a D It is uh, it's a trademarked by Jeff text.
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: I think that for is you know, annoying as some
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: of those people. We got an annoyed by some of
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: those people who were at Ponderosa over points of the season,
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: but it seems like they were all such a supportive
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: group that they kind of let the game go a
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: little bit. We'll see about at final tribal rights.
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: No.
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: I appreciate that especially.
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: It was obviously very sad when Mary got voted out
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: and the idea of her, you know, spending that whole
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: boat ride again, no idea how long that takes. I'm
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: not familiar with the travel time, but her just thinking
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: like I like, I'm going to go like I don't
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: have any friends here, No one wants to be my friend,
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: basically to.
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: Going back and like feeling like, oh I do have friends.
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: It's like that makes me.
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: Happy and shout out to Venus. I love that she
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: mentioned Venus. Venus was one of my favorite New Era players.
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: She was so funny. Do you remember much of Venus
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: from forty six? No, she did make it into the merge.
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: She was voted up pretty quickly after. But the thing
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: about Venus was she was horrible socially, but she was
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: so confident and it made for a really entertaining player.
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: But it's a yescause you do remember, Yes, she was
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: a Jonathan Pick.
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: Oh that makes sense.
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Jonathan said that she was one of his survivor
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: and nightmares. But I thought it was a great time
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: watching her, and she did. She beefed with people on
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: Twitter pretty hard, but that's what Mary's referring to here
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: when she says, I'm gonna be like Venus, meaning I'm
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: just gonna be yelling at people on Twitter and I'm
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: not gonna have friends.
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: But Venus did not have this nice reunion with with
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: the and that's part of the one.
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: That was one of the reasons I loved season forty
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: six because the New Era it was very kumbaya and
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: we all love each other and we all just like, basically,
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: after the season's over, go live together and like travel
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: the world. And then forty six was like, hey, we
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: all hate each other and have deep resentment over what
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: happened over this four week period, and it was such
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: a change of pace.
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: That's right. And don't you dare play an idol?
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that was the other thing about forty six. Forty
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: six is my favorite New Era season by far.
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: A great season.
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: First one. You ever watched, right, first season of Survivor
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: you ever watched first season?
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: I ever watched?
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: What a good hook?
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: But you we weren't. I say, you guys weren't podcasting
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: forty six? Were you?
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: We were not.
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: We drafted it, but you didn't podcast it.
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we were in our group chat. We were filming
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: fifteen second reaction videos to the vote outs and stuff
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: to try to make our first piece of Survivor content
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: for YouTube, which yes you saw it brought you to.
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: I'm very excited. I don't want to get ahead of it.
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: We still have two more weeks left, but I am
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: excited to go back into the archives whatever we're calling it.
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: I believe yes after this season.
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I think it's another reason to get
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: involved with the Patreon for sure. I think the planet
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: you can correct me if I'm wrong, is to put
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: it up for a vote for the Patreon community to
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: see which season.
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: Of Survivor it could be.
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: Uh, we could go back to season one for all week,
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: but it's gonna be up to the people to let
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: us decide. Hey, in between season forty eight and forty nine,
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: what's a season of Survivor that we should that's our
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: watch and cover and I think it's gonna be really
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: fun and the patrons will get a chance to decide
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: which season that is.
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: So join the Patreon community if for no other reason you.
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: Get an amazing chat during the during the episodes, but
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: you'll also get to decide what we're gonna do after
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: the season, which is really great.
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: Absolutely, And we're not gonna tell you what the name
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: of the show is called. We're not gonna tell you
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: which seasons are gonna be up for vote. Just know
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: it's gonna be four classics. You will will decide classics.
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: So back to Mary more David, We're gonna talk a
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: little more David. So you and David seem really close
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: in the game, and I asked him about that two
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: weeks ago, and he said Mary sort of latched onto me,
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: and me and Chase talked about this and we roasted
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: David being like, no, that's not what happened. But it
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: was Mary inserting herself into the group and then attaching
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: herself to me, And it just came to a point
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: where I was like, I can't do anything about Mary.
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: She's here. We might as well use her for a number.
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: She was always going to be the sixth boot, which
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: I don't think was ever truly clarified. Was that ever
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: clarified to you? And then Mary says David saying that
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: was hilarious. I love David. Let me just preface that.
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: But from the first day of New Loggie, David, Eva
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: and I collectively agreed that we were going to work
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: together and join forces. It was mutually beneficial, and that
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: was a group decision. Eva and David wanted numbers, and
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: I wanted people who would work with me, who I
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: could trust. Eva and David were the first people since
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: day five when Kevin got voted out, who wanted to
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: work with me, who I felt like I could trust.
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: I think a lot of people don't realize the desperation
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: that I felt, Also the desperation that I think anybody
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: coming from Vula or survived Vula would have felt. I
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: had continuously been on the bottom. And I know people
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: are going to be like, how many times is this
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: bitch gonna say she was on the bottom. It was true,
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: It was true.
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: I was.
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: And when David and Eva wanted to work with me, listen,
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: if you're selling, I'm buying, especially people who I can
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: tell really value being honest. Eva has been incredibly honest
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: this entire game. She literally was like, hey, sorry, I
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: can't protect you. Also, the reason I asked Eva if
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: she would use the idol on me is because when
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: she got the idol, she was like, Hey, I'm going
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: to use the idol on you or us. It's our idol.
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: So I was just shooting my shot.
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: That's interesting.
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't realize that Eva kind of pitched it
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: as a community thing and that involved marriage.
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: It's a communal idol.
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: So what do you think about? So you listen to
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: me and Chase talk about David Colin, Mary Klingy, Mary
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: just won't go away, trying to get rid of her.
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: And then Mary's like, look, I was just I came
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: from a tribe that had been completely wiped out, and
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: I was desperate. What's your think?
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: Obviously we only get to see so much, but Mary's
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: version of this story does seem to hold a little
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: bit more wall. Uh, if you're asking me it, this
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: is what it seemed like. It seemed like we get
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: a tribe swap right, and and our guy David.
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: Was in heaven.
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: He's just around women. I don't know if you remember this. Yes, sisters,
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: and h is very comfortable around women, and I think
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: that that happened right like hed, Yes, he bonded with
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: all of them, and so I can absolutely see the
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: three of them being like Eva being like, hey, I
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: got to sing with with Joe. We need numbers come
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: on in great wonderful fantastic and I can absolutely see
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: I don't buy the fact that David was somehow annoyed
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: that Mary was around. That is, if he was annoyed,
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: he's a better actor than we could ever get him
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: credit for, because not only did he not see him
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: annoyed by it, he seemed quite taken by the fact
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: that Mary was around him all the time. And I'm
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: not I'm not trying to insinuate anything. All I'm saying
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: is outside looking and it did not seem like Mary
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: was the clinging one in the relationship.
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: And I will leave it at that.
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: No, I don't think so. And this leads me to
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: a TikTok that I want to play for Mary.
• 34:30
  Speaker 6: It's really crazy because I thought that saying what I
• 34:34
  Speaker 6: said on an Island I would get the results that
• 34:37
  Speaker 6: I wanted because usually in my everyday life, when I
• 34:42
  Speaker 6: tell a man to use me, it works on for everyone.
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: It's fun for everyone.
• 34:50
  Speaker 6: I know what's gonna happen. But yeah, that's fine. They
• 34:57
  Speaker 6: didn't want to do that out there, but I'll survive. Well,
• 35:01
  Speaker 6: actually I won't, but that's okay too. And yeah, I
• 35:05
  Speaker 6: think I'm going to hang on this TikTok thing. If
• 35:07
  Speaker 6: you guys like like this, click the subscribe button.
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: And follow for more.
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: Just kidding, I don't know. This isn't YouTube.
• 35:19
  Speaker 6: I've been mixing up my social media.
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: Okay, not buy all right.
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: You heard it from Mary? Subscribe to her TikTok.
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: Mary is one of the funniest people in the YEA,
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: she's so great. This is Yeah, that's what I think
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: I'm getting at. What we did see is.
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: Mary kind of using da.
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: To She doesn't like to frame it that.
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: Way, but I understand.
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but and I know that's not necessarily what she's
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: saying there. But she was able to, for better or worse,
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: and worse for day, convinced David that there was something
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: going on and that they should go like push back
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: against Kyle and Camilla and that whole whole situation and shaheen,
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: and he did and out he went. And I think
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: obviously Mary would have preferred David to stick around longer
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: because he was a number with her.
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: But to say that she's the clinging one there is
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: wild wild.
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: I miss everybody. That's the problem right now, is it?
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: I miss everybody who gets voted out. I wish we
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: got more of the David and Mary relationship just to
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: see where it goes on the island for the last
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: couple of weeks. It sucks that they got they both
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: got voted out.
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: I would do I would watch a David and Mary
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: reality show for certain.
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: A David and Mary reality show where their landlords.
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna be honest, I would.
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: I would even give the amazing race more than a
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: one minute chance if David.
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: Oh, oh, absolutely. So let's let's read one last thing,
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: because I don't want to make it all about David today.
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: This is about Mary. So from the edit, it looks
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: like people maybe don't want to work with you, but
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: it definitely doesn't give the feeling that you're being ostracized.
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: Why do you think that was Do you think it
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: was just people were afraid to be seen talking to you.
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: Was it they that they just didn't want to hear
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: your pitch? Do you think it was a personal issue
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: they had? And Mary says, I knew it wasn't personal.
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: I knew that with my head, but with my heart.
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: There's a kind of a lag between head and heart.
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: So all my heart could feel was that people didn't
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: want to be around me. But I think the reason
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: is what people said to me after the game. They
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: were like, Yo, we're sorry we didn't talk to you.
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: We didn't want to work with you because we saw
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: you as a threat. We didn't want to sit next
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: to you at Final Tribal And yeah, they didn't know that.
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: With a lot of vula, I got lucky. It wasn't
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: like I was this huge mastermind. I feel like throughout
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: the game, everybody's like, she's this incredible mastermind. I don't
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: think I'm an incredible mastermind. I think I'm scrappy though,
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: but people don't know that. They were just like, wow,
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: she really survived, and so I think they didn't want
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: to work with me for that reason. But also you
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: can see that everybody out there has Day one connections.
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: Those are all Day one connections and people at that
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: point it was tense because everybody, I feel like, wanted
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: to prove their loyalty. I was talking to Shaheen right,
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: I was like, this isn't a game of out loyal
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: but everybody out there was so pressed on being loyal
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: to each other that I think if they were really
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: like seeing and talking to me, it would increase paranoia
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: and really splinter whatever plans or connections they had, and
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: that's very interesting that she points out that I lost
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: all my Day one people and all these other people
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: still have them, and that's what makes it so tough.
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: That's the yeah that for sure, people that have their
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: Day one still there, they don't why would they, why
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: would they keep marry around any longer? And the people
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: that don't have anybody are too freaking afraid to do something.
• 38:59
  Speaker 3: This isn't this isn't Mary being some sort of like
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: social outcasts that can't make friends. She's very likable, and
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: I think anybody who us looking at watching the show
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: are like, why are people not just teaming up with Mary? Mitch, Kyle, Camilla, Shaheen.
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: You can do this and Mary is the way to
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: make it happen.
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: Still get mad.
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: It's just a different group of people. I feel like
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: we've all become accustomed to this is how you play Survivor,
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: and you just do them. It's like kind of like
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: analytics in football. They're like Andy and Jenevieve and all
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: those people are constantly crunching numbers thinking how do I
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: get the most votes at the end. This season is
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: not like that at all, And yeah, it's it's very different.
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: I honestly think if Mary had one more day on
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: that island, she could have made it work.
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: She waited one day too long.
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: To do the thing where Joe with Joe, where she
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: made Joe spiral out of control. If you do that
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: one day earlier and you just kind of keep keep
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: kind of poking that bear a little bit, I think
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: you could have gotten the numbers because part of the
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: loyal here is Joe is such a good guy.
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: Joe is such a like we can trust Joe.
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: But I don't know how you look at that edit
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: and see Joe kind of spiraling out of control and
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: not be.
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: Like, oh, maybe we do. I want to put all
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: my eggs in this Joe basket.
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: And you want to know, one of my favorite things
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: to come out of the exit interviews is the fact
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: that she said that she didn't even see David's stand up.
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: Oh I almost skipped over that.
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, she she just she got I want to say,
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: she got back to Ponderosa and Star or someone was like,
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: can you believe David stood up?
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: And She's like, what are you talking about?
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: Because she is probably just a blackout moment of like, yeah,
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: my whole Survivor world is just crashed in on itself
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: and nothing is going It's like, you know, a flash
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: bang situation and call of duty. You don't know what's
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: going on.
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: I love that even in these moments where Mary is
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: like having an out of body experience, she still is
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: able to look back at the camera and do the
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: peace sign as she walks.
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: Away, like that's just her default.
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: She also said she did a little speech that they cut.
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: I wish we would have gotten that, but yeah, what
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: can you do?
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, she said, I expected to cry out of sadness,
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: not out of laughter seeing David stand up. Ye shout
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: out to Mary. I love Mary, and you know brand,
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: we've all gotten musical, I guess except you and Chase.
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: I don't know if I heard this correctly, but I
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: think you also did a little little something.
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: I want to add a little clarification here. I think
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: it's been misconstrued, construed, conscrewed, construed. Yeah, it's been misconstrued
• 41:56
  Speaker 3: that I scent in a song today. It's what happened
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: here is I saw David stand up and I thought
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: that it was so interesting that I paused my TV.
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: And one of the things you don't know about me
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: is that I'm able to kind of enter into somebody's
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: psyche in a moment like that.
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: Yes, it's something that I do.
• 42:23
  Speaker 3: I channel on the side, So I was able to
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: channel David and kind of what was going through his
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: mind in the moment as he stood up. And to
• 42:37
  Speaker 3: say it was sad that it was bleak would be
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: an understatement. But weirdly enough, what I was able to
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: channel was a song. So again, it's not me, it
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: is David, but I can see how you got there.
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: But yes, this is a song from David about Mary.
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: Yes, okay, well excuse what I said earlier. We have
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: a song from David. David from season forty eight of
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: Survivor has sent a song to making the merge. Let's
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: hear it, give up and and i' to keep you
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: though we know that evil has them all.
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: You're the closest to heaven fijis ever seen. And I
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: don't want to go home now. All I can see
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: is that moment when you played your shot in the dark.
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: Sooner later the realize.
• 43:38
  Speaker 7: They should have sent Joe home nights and answer the
• 43:44
  Speaker 7: world to see me.
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: When I cried out as draft.
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: Stopped your charge. All that I have is some cold.
• 43:55
  Speaker 7: Milk and I'll stand up to show basketle maybe deserve
• 44:03
  Speaker 7: so much more Survivor.
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: That's taps playing it out, which I tell you, beautiful.
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: Oh brand, I mean not, I got it wrong. Get David, David,
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: thank you for the beautiful song. I enjoyed that so much.
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: Thank you, David.
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: It was beautiful. It was beautiful, David.
• 44:40
  Speaker 3: Thank you for sharing that in And uh yeah, I
• 44:43
  Speaker 3: mean I think all of that came through while he
• 44:47
  Speaker 3: stood up. I think we felt all of those words.
• 44:50
  Speaker 3: But to hear it, you know, through the output of
• 44:56
  Speaker 3: the goo goo dolls, I think is a win for
• 44:57
  Speaker 3: all of us.
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: And David mustn't own that we were going to talk
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: about him so much in this episode that he should
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: send in a song and that's how we close the
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: Show's pretty brilliant by David. I think we haven't given
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: David enough credit for being the brilliant guy that he is.
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: The standing up, the singing, the song, everything he did.
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: Thank you, David.
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: He's playing chess. Man are playing checkers.
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: But the pressure is on Chase, because Chase, do you
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: want to reveal this? You know what I'm we know
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: what I'm talking about. We're not gonna necessarily play it,
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: But should we.
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: Allude to what he did?
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: All this is all I'll say that Chase hasn't had
• 45:38
  Speaker 3: a song played on this season, but that doesn't mean he.
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: Hasn't made one.
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: That's right, And it doesn't mean he hasn't made one.
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: And it's so bad according to him, because I have not.
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: He sent it to you apparently, but I've not been
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: allowed to hear it. He said that he hates it
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: and it's horrible and that no one can ever see it.
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: How about this? And I feel secure doing this? How many?
• 46:05
  Speaker 3: How many patrons before the end of the season do
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: we need to get to release the song without his permission?
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: Oh? What are we at?
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: Now?
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: We have twenty I want to say, twenty people in
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: our chat? Thirty thirty five? Forty I think.
• 46:24
  Speaker 3: Let's do forty seems like a high enough. Now, like that,
• 46:28
  Speaker 3: if we double the patreon if we double.
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: The patrons by by two weeks?
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: Right, how about these two weeks bye? By the awards,
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: by the Mergy Awards.
• 46:38
  Speaker 3: How about the merg Yeah, by the Mergy Awards. If
• 46:41
  Speaker 3: it happens, then we will release it to the Patreon community.
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: And Chase will not have a say. Me and Brand
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: have decided. Brand owns the network. He can't say no
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: to brand. He can say no to me, but he
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: can't say no to brand.
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: And what's he going to be like?
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: Oh?
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: Oh man, Like, no, that's not good. We got forty,
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: we got we double the count, so you can't get
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: mad at us. Yeah.
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: So you can comment, release the tapes if you want to.
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: But if you really want to make the change, like
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: Brand said, get in the Patreon chat Wednesday night. Everybody
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: pops in there.
• 47:11
  Speaker 3: And I will how about this, I will also be
• 47:15
  Speaker 3: posting an acoustic version of the track that you just heard.
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: That's right again, it will look like I don't I
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: don't need to get Channeling is hard, so it's hard
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: to explain it fully.
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: It will it will look like me, it will look
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: like brand. It will not be Brands, it.
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: Will not be me.
• 47:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but I'll put that in the in the Patreon community.
• 47:34
  Speaker 3: So so many reasons to join, and you can put
• 47:36
  Speaker 3: that link in the description to do so.
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: If you join, you get brands, I mean, David's new song,
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: you get Jonathan's car recording of the Bianca song, and
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: you get the full length Camilla song plus the chat,
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: and you can make all four minutes of it, all
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: four minutes, and you can make Chase release the tapes.
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: Kind of rhymes.
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: Release the tapes, release.
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: The tapes released. All right. Thank you for tuning into
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: the sectionary. This is where good pots happen. Everybody with
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: pe D and Brand in the morning. Thank you very much.
• 48:08
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• 48:17
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• 48:19
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• 48:23
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• 48:26
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