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Cameron Bawden: What Did Success Cost You? · Becoming

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Speaker 1: One of my first memories was my dad leaving and
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Speaker 1: I'll never forget. Like I thought my dad was like leaving, leaving.
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Speaker 1: I didn't know what that, what it meant.
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Speaker 2: When we're looking at our lives, I think we're not
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Speaker 2: going to ever wish that we just worked more, but
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Speaker 2: there's still a time to grind. I think as fathers,
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Speaker 2: you know, the protect, provide, preside concept is our responsibility
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Speaker 2: in the home is so critically valuable. Marriage is hard.
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Speaker 2: Divorce is hard. You know, choose your hard.
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Speaker 1: I'm not like this guy that cares about having his
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Speaker 1: name on a building or like that type of legacy.
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Speaker 1: Like I just want my family to know that I
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Speaker 1: love them and that like I was my worst.
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Speaker 2: Hey guys, glad to have you back. Bubba Page here,
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Speaker 2: host of the Fatherhood Movement Podcast. You guys, my first
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Speaker 2: time meeting Cameron Bodden here. I'm so pumped to have him.
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Speaker 2: I've got introduced to him through a mutual friend, serial entrepreneur,
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Speaker 2: built companies, exited companies, building more, investing. We've got a
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Speaker 2: ton of mutual investor friends. Today, I want us to
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Speaker 2: talk about business, talk about investing. We're gonna talk about
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Speaker 2: being dads on this Fatherhood Movement Podcast, and really what
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Speaker 2: are some of the meanings beyond just the success too.
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Speaker 2: So Cameron, it's so good to have you, man.
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Speaker 1: I feel like from like us talking, we have like
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Speaker 1: so many, I don't know how we haven't met yet.
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Speaker 2: We have way too many mutual contacts, right?
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Speaker 3: Yeah. It's, which is a good thing.
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Speaker 2: It's a small world. So Cameron's from Arizona. Were you
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Speaker 2: born and raised in Arizona?
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Speaker 1: You know, what's funny is like, I was actually born
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Speaker 1: in Price, Utah, but lived there for like one year.
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Speaker 1: And so I like to say I was born and
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Speaker 1: raised in Arizona, but you know, I guess I was
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Speaker 1: born in Utah, but yeah. pretty much just spent my
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Speaker 1: whole life in Arizona. I love Arizona.
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Speaker 2: That's awesome. Okay. So, I have the same vibe. I
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Speaker 2: grew up in San Francisco, the Bay Area, but I
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Speaker 2: was born in Midvale, Utah. So, like you, I was
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Speaker 2: here until my first grade I did in California.
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Speaker 1: Okay.
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Speaker 2: And then all the way and then moved to Arizona
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Speaker 2: for my senior year.
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Speaker 3: Which is crazy, man.
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Speaker 2: Dude, it worked.
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Speaker 1: It seemed like you didn't care, but like when I
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Speaker 1: said it earlier, like you're like, yeah, fine. I don't
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Speaker 1: know if I would have been able to like, I
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Speaker 1: wasn't a very like, So like I was social, but
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Speaker 1: like to my, to my friend group. Right. So if
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Speaker 1: you put me in like a new environment, you know,
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Speaker 1: senior year, I don't know how well I would have done.
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Speaker 2: Here's the story. Cause especially women will say like, oh
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Speaker 2: my gosh, that had to be so hard.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: I think as a guy, uh, and I was an athlete,
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Speaker 2: I was on the, I grew up playing volleyball. That
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Speaker 2: was my core sport in California was a bigger deal,
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Speaker 2: I think than Arizona, but yeah. Um, and so when
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Speaker 2: I got there, the guys were super welcoming. They're like, Hey,
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Speaker 2: new guy, this is cool. And made the viable team
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Speaker 2: ended up being their captain and all this stuff. So
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Speaker 2: I like had an immediate group and then the girls
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Speaker 2: are like fresh meat. Like there's this new guy from California.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, California, that helps.
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Speaker 3: As a guy, it was awesome.
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Speaker 2: I think if you're a beautiful girl though, it would
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Speaker 2: be really hard to move your senior year.
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Speaker 1: Those of you guys that don't know that are watching,
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Speaker 1: like Mountain View is the place, like the best athletes.
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Speaker 1: And at least when I grew up was like known
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Speaker 1: for like the hottest girls. And so- That's not easy, man.
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Speaker 3: You know, it worked.
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Speaker 2: So, you know, I can say that I'm a Toro
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Speaker 2: from Mountain View because that was there.
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Speaker 3: That's a big deal. It's a big, big deal.
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Speaker 2: I only went there for a year and then came
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Speaker 2: up here to BYU and then never left. So I've
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Speaker 2: been in Utah for 25 years.
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Speaker 1: Okay.
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Speaker 2: Which is crazy.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: I know, I know.
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Speaker 3: I'm old now. You can just say it.
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Speaker 2: I'm getting up there in age here. You guys, so
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Speaker 2: Cameron has had multiple successes here and the stories that
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Speaker 2: you've been able to share on other podcasts, they're inspiring
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Speaker 2: to other entrepreneurs. Thank you. And I run something called thebusinessbootcamp.com
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Speaker 2: and it's for beginner entrepreneurs or guys or gals who
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Speaker 2: are doing nine to five, but they really want to
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Speaker 2: start something. And so we're just kind of trying to
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Speaker 2: help them get started. ideation you know uh can we
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Speaker 2: get the validation of a product and then help them
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Speaker 2: to like okay you've validated this is it let's go
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Speaker 2: to scale yeah but one of the things i have
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Speaker 2: to ask it goes a little deeper so everybody well
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Speaker 2: everybody will see as soon as they've watched this they've
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Speaker 2: seen your companies right yeah they see the helicopter which
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Speaker 2: is so so dope they see the exits they've seen
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Speaker 2: all these successes even the racing which i need to
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Speaker 2: know more about here soon But what did success cost
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Speaker 2: you that nobody sees on Instagram?
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, I think what's funny about all like what
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Speaker 1: you just mentioned, like as much, like I've had very
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Speaker 1: little success, but a lot of failures. And I think
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Speaker 1: that's what makes me great looking back at the time.
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Speaker 1: I mean, actually, when I first started doing podcasts, like
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Speaker 1: probably four years ago, like those failures were really hard
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Speaker 1: to talk about. But as I've gotten a little bit
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Speaker 1: older in business and in my life, like I realized
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Speaker 1: like those are the most important times as hard as
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Speaker 1: they were and so what does it cost me the
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Speaker 1: same thing that it cost me with my family is
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Speaker 1: kind of like the same thing of the joy that
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Speaker 1: it's brought me and so when i say that you
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Speaker 1: know when i sold green mango pest control which was
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Speaker 1: my biggest company that we sold our largest transaction we
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Speaker 1: had over 30 000 customers in one area in arizona
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Speaker 1: and um I told my kids, I'm like, Hey, you
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Speaker 1: can smash my phone when I sell, because they just
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Speaker 1: hated my phone. It would ring all hours of the day, hour,
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Speaker 1: all hours of night. And I like, I have this thing,
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Speaker 1: like it's a respect thing for me of zero inbox policy.
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Speaker 1: If you call me, like, I'm going to get back
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Speaker 1: to you. I'm very OCD like that. And like, I
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Speaker 1: would get back to people and there's a lot of
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Speaker 1: calls coming in. And so like, that was kind of
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Speaker 1: like my kids knew like, Hey, once you pass this
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Speaker 1: finish line, like that was kind of the light.
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Speaker 3: At the end of the tunnel.
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Speaker 1: And then since like, I'm just a serial entrepreneur and
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Speaker 1: I love business. And so it's gotten a little bit better,
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Speaker 1: but what's been cool to see is that I've been
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Speaker 1: able to train my kids. My kids are only 12
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Speaker 1: and nine years old, but it's been fun. Like we
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Speaker 1: just spent two months in California and like I'm.
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Speaker 3: There the whole time.
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Speaker 1: And so they get to see like the contrast of, okay,
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Speaker 1: this was dad, you know, a couple of years ago,
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Speaker 1: just working as hard as he can. He had this
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Speaker 1: big exit. And now he's in California. I still work
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Speaker 1: like the perfect scenario for me is three to five
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Speaker 1: hours a day of work. And I, and I maintain
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Speaker 1: that while we were there in California, but nonetheless, we're
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Speaker 1: able to stay at nice places where we're able to
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Speaker 1: eat where we want, do the things that we want
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Speaker 1: to do. And so it's like, it's just the same
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Speaker 1: thing that kind of took it from me is like
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Speaker 1: that sacrifice of answering the phone on Saturday or at
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Speaker 1: night during bedtime, or maybe even missing bedtimes, like is
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Speaker 1: the exact same thing that gave us that freedom. And
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Speaker 1: it's been really fun. to try and teach my kids
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Speaker 1: that at the young age that they are. And I
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Speaker 1: like I talk about numbers with my kids because they
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Speaker 1: ask not that I want to make everything about money,
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Speaker 1: but I want to break their belief system of what's possible.
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Speaker 1: I don't want them to think that $ 200, 000 a year
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Speaker 1: is impossible to, you know, to make.
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Speaker 2: Right.
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Speaker 1: So I want banks to understand like, dude, I, banks
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Speaker 1: is my little boy. Like it's possible to go make
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Speaker 1: 10 million, 20 million, whatever it might be. And so
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Speaker 1: it's been, it's just been fun, man, business. And so
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Speaker 1: I try and share as much as I can with them.
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Speaker 2: So when you're looking at it, I mean, being a
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Speaker 2: father and an entrepreneur, I think is one of the
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Speaker 2: coolest things possible. The hardest part is what you're talking about.
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Speaker 2: How do you set aside the distinct time because you
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Speaker 2: are the dad and like the kids need to have
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Speaker 2: the father in the home. They need a present father.
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Speaker 2: And so many of us as entrepreneurs, we go and
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Speaker 2: grind and then we realize, oh crap, maybe I missed
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Speaker 2: certain things of their life where I didn't, didn't put
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Speaker 2: in the, I didn't intentionally plan. for this type of
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Speaker 2: relationship to happen. So if you're talking to a new
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Speaker 2: entrepreneur today, the 20 something year old, who's just gonna
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Speaker 2: go out there and grind it right now, what's the
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Speaker 2: advice that you would give them to say like, okay, look,
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Speaker 2: your wife's pregnant, or you're about to have a kid,
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Speaker 2: How do you help them prepare to be an entrepreneur
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Speaker 2: and be the dad and make that as successful as possible?
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Speaker 1: I think communication is one of the most important things.
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Speaker 1: Making sure that you and your spouse are first on
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Speaker 1: the same page. If your spouse doesn't share the same
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Speaker 1: goals and ambitions that you do, you're going to have
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Speaker 1: friction at some point. I've had five different strong business
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Speaker 1: partners and most of them have gotten divorces because you know,
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Speaker 1: just there was misalignment there and just the time and
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Speaker 1: the work that it takes that goes into that. And
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Speaker 1: so when people are starting out and they ask that question,
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Speaker 1: it's like, first, make sure that your goals are your
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Speaker 1: spouse's goals and make sure that you guys are aligned.
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Speaker 1: Like that's number one. And then after that, one of
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Speaker 1: the things that I did that I was not perfect
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Speaker 1: at this, but I really tried to be is like,
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Speaker 1: I tried to always be home at five o'clock and
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Speaker 1: this was probably eight, nine years in when I could be,
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Speaker 1: but it's like, as soon as I could, I'd be
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Speaker 1: home at five o'clock and I wouldn't touch my phone
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Speaker 1: until bedtime, which my wife was crazy about putting the
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Speaker 1: kids down. On a set schedule, which I appreciate, but
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Speaker 1: from seven 30 to nine o'clock, I would jump back
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Speaker 1: on and answer any text messages or questions that came
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Speaker 1: in during that time. But time blocking that like sacred
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Speaker 1: time with the kids was really important for me, um,
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Speaker 1: to be there with the kids and whether they want
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Speaker 1: to go to the park, bike ride, RC cars, like
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Speaker 1: whatever it might be. I just tried to play full
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Speaker 1: out during those two hours and like letting them know
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Speaker 1: what I'm working towards. I think that's so important to, again,
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Speaker 1: share with your kids. This is why I'm doing this.
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Speaker 1: And it takes sacrifice and it takes effort. The last
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Speaker 1: thing I want my kids to do is wake up
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Speaker 1: and be like, dad just got this.
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Speaker 3: And he, they didn't, they don't, I never.
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Speaker 1: If I never share with them like the bad days,
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Speaker 1: which I'm intentional with sharing them, like, dude, I had
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Speaker 1: a rough day today. You know, like I got my
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Speaker 1: butt kicked, a lot of key people left or a
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Speaker 1: lot of, you know, whatever might happen. I want to
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Speaker 1: share that with my son because I also don't want
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Speaker 1: him to see this like milky, juicy, you know, perfect life.
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Speaker 3: Right.
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Speaker 1: And so I, you know, communication with your spouse and
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Speaker 1: your kids, I think are some of the most important
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Speaker 1: things you can do. And then time blocking those times.
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Speaker 1: A lot of people talk about date nights. You know,
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Speaker 1: one thing that's been huge for my wife and I
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Speaker 1: the past two years is, you know, I've been really
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Speaker 1: high on like getting, you know, 12,000 steps in a day.
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Speaker 1: And so at night, if I'm not there, like my
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Speaker 1: wife and I will go for a 20, 30 minute
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Speaker 1: walk without the phone. And that has been some of
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Speaker 1: the most precious time that I've ever had with her.
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Speaker 3: I love it.
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Speaker 2: When we're looking at our lives, I think we're not
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Speaker 2: going to ever wish that we just worked more. People
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Speaker 2: say that all the time. But there's still a time
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Speaker 2: to grind. There's still a time to wake up early
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Speaker 2: to get the work done and to provide for the family.
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Speaker 2: I think as fathers, you know, the protect, provide, preside
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Speaker 2: concept that is our responsibility in the home is so
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Speaker 2: critically valuable. I look at my kids, eight, right? We
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Speaker 2: talked about this, six to 16 years. So my 16
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Speaker 2: year old is living a current life that's way that
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Speaker 2: was way different or is different than the six year
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Speaker 2: olds when he was six. And now these guys are
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Speaker 2: six is totally different ballgame. And so trying to teach
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Speaker 2: the life principles to the kids, no matter where they
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Speaker 2: are in your financial situation of life.
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Speaker 3: It's, it's hard.
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Speaker 2: Um, and so the elements of hard work, like you've got,
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Speaker 2: you said 12 and nine, right? So how are you
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Speaker 2: teaching them to work hard when today it looks like
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Speaker 2: maybe California beach time in three or four hours. Whereas,
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Speaker 2: you know, quite a few years ago, it was like
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Speaker 2: 12 hour days. How do you teach them that element
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Speaker 2: of hard work now?
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Speaker 1: So I've, When I sold Green Mango, I read this
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Speaker 1: stat that less than 1% of companies make it over
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Speaker 1: $ 10 million in revenue and are actually profitable. And it's
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Speaker 1: the stat that I shared with my team when I
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Speaker 1: announced that I was selling. It was like a proudful moment.
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Speaker 1: They're like, guys, we literally beat the odds. We are
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Speaker 1: the 1%. And I've just carried that throughout. I started
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Speaker 1: the group called the 1% Club, which is a mentoring
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Speaker 1: group to help other business owners become the 1%. And
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Speaker 1: I've just, I've tailored that into things with my kids.
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Speaker 1: And so I want them to get 1% better. And
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Speaker 1: so what that looks like is in California, for example,
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Speaker 1: with my little boy, I talked to him before we
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Speaker 1: went there and I just said, look, banks, like you're
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Speaker 1: wanting to be like, do you want these nice things?
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Speaker 1: Do you like going on nice vacations? Like I'm looking
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Speaker 1: for all the yeses or yeah. And like, I know
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Speaker 1: you want the cars and all the things. Well, you,
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Speaker 1: one of the things you need to learn over the
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Speaker 1: next 10 years is how to work hard. And what
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Speaker 1: does that look like for you? It looks like, hey,
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Speaker 1: you're going into seventh grade this year. You like basketball.
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Speaker 1: You need to put in some work. You're not just
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Speaker 1: going to be able to show up like these kids
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Speaker 1: are practicing for an hour a day plus. So what
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Speaker 1: are you willing to commit to while we're in California
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Speaker 1: early in the morning with me to get a little
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Speaker 1: bit better and learn this work ethic? You're not doing
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Speaker 1: it for basketball. You're doing it because it's going to
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Speaker 1: be hard. You're not going to want to do it.
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Speaker 1: And so he committed to work out with me every
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Speaker 1: single day while we were in California.
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Speaker 3: That's awesome.
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Speaker 1: And there's a lot of days where I had to
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Speaker 1: like remind him of his.
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Speaker 3: Commitment he made.
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Speaker 2: Right.
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Speaker 1: But it was cool because it was hard. Like I
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Speaker 1: put him through a lot of difficult drills. I tried
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Speaker 1: to make it just challenging enough to where like he
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Speaker 1: wouldn't quit, but enough to where like he was exhausted
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Speaker 1: at the end, you know, and it was like it
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Speaker 1: was it was a huge win. And so I'm trying
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Speaker 1: to teach them like what are these little work ethics
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Speaker 1: that you can learn right now? Like, I'm sure you
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Speaker 1: have a lawn mowing story that you have that like,
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Speaker 1: you know, was a defining moment in your life. Like,
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Speaker 1: like I did that just like, you're like, dude, like
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Speaker 1: I figured it out that day. And so I'm trying
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Speaker 1: to look for those opportunities to teach them. Um, and
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Speaker 1: just keep building, like getting a little bit better every
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Speaker 1: single week, every single month. Cause that stuff really does compound.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, no doubt.
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Speaker 2: Sports are, we were both athletes growing up to my knowledge, right.
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Speaker 2: To my understanding. And it feels like those skills being coached,
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Speaker 2: having to show up, whether you want it or not, right.
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Speaker 2: You know, putting in the time and the effort, um,
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Speaker 2: physical exercise, these things are hard. And Dan Martelli shows
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Speaker 2: a picture of himself as a pretty large college kid
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Speaker 2: who was drinking all the time and now he's this
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Speaker 2: fit adult, right? And he says something like, I was
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Speaker 2: tired then and I'm tired now. So pick your tired,
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Speaker 2: pick your hard, it's gonna be hard. And I do
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Speaker 2: the same thing when it's, you're either gonna intentionally plan
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Speaker 2: with your kids, with your spouse, you're gonna intentionally plan
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Speaker 2: your life or you're not. Either one, it's gonna be hard.
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Speaker 2: It's gonna be hard if you're just flying by the
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Speaker 2: seat of your pants or it's gonna be hard if
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Speaker 2: you sit down and map out your life. Same thing,
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Speaker 2: marriage is hard, divorce is hard. Choose your hard, being
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Speaker 2: healthy or fit is hard, being overweight is hard. So
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Speaker 2: it's one of those principles that hopefully these kids.
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Speaker 3: We have athletes.
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Speaker 2: Son just made it to the national gymnastics team.
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Speaker 3: Really?
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Speaker 2: He's on a tramp and tumbling team going to China
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Speaker 2: in November to represent the US, which is so awesome.
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Speaker 2: So sick. Daughter just took third place in the nationals of, again, tumbler.
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Speaker 3: We did this.
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Speaker 2: It's called the Spartan race this Saturday. Like I told you,
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Speaker 2: I'm still sore, like dying. My quads are so sore.
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Speaker 2: And my two boys did it this time. And not
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Speaker 2: the same size, but a version of it. Because I
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Speaker 2: just want them to do hard things. I want them
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Speaker 2: to know that they can do something hard and struggle
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Speaker 2: through it. Even if they're not the champion, that's okay.
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Speaker 2: If they just went through and did something hard, because
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Speaker 2: that's going to serve them in adulthood, in my opinion.
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Speaker 2: So as you've found, you know, some of the successes
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Speaker 2: have come, but you've had those failures. Any entrepreneur, if
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Speaker 2: you've been around long enough, you're going to have those failures.
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Speaker 3: Me too.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. How have you gotten yourself out of the failures
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Speaker 2: from a mindset game to get your confidence back up
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Speaker 2: to go again?
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Speaker 1: Yeah. That's a great question. I mean, it's kind of,
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Speaker 1: I've had different failures in the past. One of them,
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Speaker 1: my biggest one is when an investor pulled out, just
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Speaker 1: kind of pulled the rug out from underneath us, put
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Speaker 1: us in, like I was like, went to 4 million
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Speaker 1: in debt. I thought my life was over. And luckily
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Speaker 1: I had a life coach at the time and I'll
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Speaker 1: never forget calling him. And he's like, dude, this principle
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Speaker 1: that I've been trying to teach you, we just haven't
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Speaker 1: had something to like really grab onto to like apply
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Speaker 1: it is that everything always works out. And I'm like,
15:56
Speaker 1: I'm literally crying to him on the phone. Like, Mark,
15:59
Speaker 1: you don't understand. Like, I'm done. Like all my beliefs
16:02
Speaker 1: of any like, hey, Cameron's a good business owner is
16:05
Speaker 1: like it just left when he said he didn't want
16:07
Speaker 1: to be my partner anymore. Like I'm done.
16:09
Speaker 3: He's like, dude, everything will work out.
16:11
Speaker 1: And that was in 2019. And it took me about
16:14
Speaker 1: three years to really gain my confidence back to who
16:18
Speaker 1: like I was probably in 2018. And it was through
16:21
Speaker 1: like a series of writing and journals of like all
16:24
Speaker 1: the things that I felt like were going to end
16:26
Speaker 1: my life. It's funny because those things never really end
16:29
Speaker 1: your life. And now looking back, I'm so grateful that
16:32
Speaker 1: that investor pulled out because I was able to pay
16:34
Speaker 1: off the debt. I was able to pull through. I
16:36
Speaker 1: was able to get better as a businessman. and really
16:39
Speaker 1: double down on who I am. And, um, it's like
16:43
Speaker 1: looking at those journals. So anytime something like catastrophic or
16:47
Speaker 1: what appears to be catastrophic, I always just tell myself, like,
16:50
Speaker 1: everything always works out. And then I just go back
16:53
Speaker 1: and continue with routines. I'm a huge routine guy. So
16:57
Speaker 1: like we, we talked a little bit about ice baths
16:59
Speaker 1: in the morning. And so it's like, I'm huge on
17:00
Speaker 1: meditation on ice baths on sauna. I'm huge into the gym.
17:04
Speaker 1: Like those are my, my core things that I have
17:06
Speaker 1: to do every single day. And then just showing up,
17:09
Speaker 1: in my opinion, is some of the best things that
17:12
Speaker 1: you can do. But everyone's a little bit different. So
17:15
Speaker 1: it's understanding what makes you tick. For me, sauna, ice bath, gym,
17:21
Speaker 1: and showing up. And then it's a big part of
17:23
Speaker 1: who I hang around. So that's my belief factor. Of
17:26
Speaker 1: hanging around good guys like you that are up to
17:27
Speaker 1: cool things that inspire me, that want to make me
17:31
Speaker 1: be better. And that's a big reason why I started my,
17:34
Speaker 1: my business community is because a lot of people don't
17:37
Speaker 1: have that. A lot of people don't have the friend
17:39
Speaker 1: that broke out and is making a million dollars a year.
17:42
Speaker 1: They surround themselves with friends that are making 60 to
17:44
Speaker 1: 80 grand. And there's nothing wrong with that friend, but
17:47
Speaker 1: you need that guy to be like, dude, if Cameron
17:49
Speaker 1: did it, I can do it.
17:50
Speaker 3: Yeah.
17:50
Speaker 1: And so that's what I'm trying to create. And those
17:52
Speaker 1: are the times where I, I pulled out of like this,
17:55
Speaker 1: the sticky situations that I was in by sticking with routine.
17:58
Speaker 1: And hanging around the right people.
17:59
Speaker 3: I love that.
18:01
Speaker 2: I know I had a business fail in 2000, end
18:04
Speaker 2: of 2016, 17. Yeah. Had raised a little bit of
18:06
Speaker 2: venture capital and we're building software. We even had these
18:10
Speaker 2: like initial successes and come to find out we had
18:14
Speaker 2: to shut it down like two and a half years later.
18:16
Speaker 2: And it was so devastating. Right. And I felt like
18:20
Speaker 2: it was my reputation that was gone. It was my,
18:23
Speaker 2: you know, everything about me as an entrepreneur was gone.
18:27
Speaker 3: Because of this.
18:28
Speaker 2: And one of the greatest things was I had an
18:30
Speaker 2: investor that was part of it. He said, look, you
18:32
Speaker 2: did everything you could in this business to make it work.
18:35
Speaker 2: And it didn't pan out. He's like, the next business
18:38
Speaker 2: you have, I'll write another check into that business.
18:40
Speaker 1: Dang, that's cool.
18:41
Speaker 2: Because we believe in you. Just because that one didn't
18:43
Speaker 2: work doesn't mean that you, and I remember even though
18:46
Speaker 2: I was like in this depth of despair, that stuck
18:49
Speaker 2: with me. And then I had an opportunity where a
18:53
Speaker 2: little angel investment didn't pan out, right? He spent two years, blood, sweat,
18:58
Speaker 2: and tears didn't work. And then he started another one.
19:01
Speaker 2: And he's a good friend. I believe in him as
19:02
Speaker 2: a person. Wrote him another check into this new thing.
19:06
Speaker 2: And now he's going to be in Costco's nationwide, right?
19:09
Speaker 2: It's a pickle company, by the way, which is so crazy.
19:12
Speaker 2: I invested in pickles. Who would have thought? I'm like
19:16
Speaker 2: a consumer product, consumer tech guy. And I invested in
19:19
Speaker 2: pickles because it was the guy, right? And I believe
19:23
Speaker 2: in him. We have a history of relationships. So let's
19:25
Speaker 2: talk about investing a little bit. So you've grown these businesses,
19:28
Speaker 2: successes and failures, right? Learn from all of them. You
19:32
Speaker 2: have this group that you're mentoring and helping them to
19:34
Speaker 2: see that they can do it too.
19:35
Speaker 3: The 1% Club, right?
19:36
Speaker 1: Yeah.
19:38
Speaker 2: And what is the website just so people can know?
19:40
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's hypefarm.com.
19:42
Speaker 1: So spell it out.
19:43
Speaker 3: Yeah.
19:44
Speaker 1: H-Y-P-E-P-H-A-R-M.com. So hopefully we can put a link on here too,
19:49
Speaker 1: but Yeah.
19:50
Speaker 2: I want to make sure everybody knows where they can
19:51
Speaker 2: find that and learn from it. So let's talk about
19:55
Speaker 2: investing though. So now you've had a chance to get
19:57
Speaker 2: involved in a few different deals, right? What gets you
20:01
Speaker 2: excited about investing? I mean, I love it.
20:04
Speaker 3: This is part of my favorite.
20:05
Speaker 1: You know, to be honest, like it's been really overwhelming
20:09
Speaker 1: for me because I like a bit like running a
20:12
Speaker 1: business is completely different than like managing a portfolio.
20:15
Speaker 3: Yeah.
20:16
Speaker 1: And when I first got, like when, when I first
20:19
Speaker 1: had my exit, it was trying to figure out like, okay,
20:22
Speaker 1: am I wanting to, you know, be more conservative or
20:26
Speaker 1: am I wanting to like double down? How do I
20:27
Speaker 1: want to split it up? And so it's been a,
20:30
Speaker 1: it's been a really like fun new journey. challenge for
20:35
Speaker 1: me to figure out like, Hey, what do I want?
20:36
Speaker 2: What do I like?
20:37
Speaker 1: What do I really want to invest in? What are
20:38
Speaker 1: the deals that, you know, speak to me? And so I've,
20:42
Speaker 1: I've kind of like, I took Casey's advice, actually, he
20:44
Speaker 1: was pretty instrumental in this. And he just said, look, man,
20:47
Speaker 1: go plant 200 apple trees and whatever that dollar amount
20:52
Speaker 1: is that you're okay with losing, like plant that much
20:54
Speaker 1: in that tree. And like, if a million dollars is
20:57
Speaker 1: uncomfortable in one position, like don't do it, do 250
21:01
Speaker 1: or whatever that might be for you. Because when I
21:03
Speaker 1: first sold, I was thinking, oh, I'm just going to
21:06
Speaker 1: like place all this money in like two different areas
21:08
Speaker 1: and just kind of like let it do its thing.
21:11
Speaker 1: And I'm so glad I didn't do that. I've been
21:14
Speaker 1: able to diversify completely. And it's been fun to meet
21:18
Speaker 1: a ton of different people. You know, we were just
21:20
Speaker 1: talking about Dave Hunter. Like he was one of the
21:22
Speaker 1: people that, you know, I was able to meet on
21:25
Speaker 1: one of Casey's trips. And with so many other people
21:27
Speaker 1: and that, you know, spun into 10 other relationships. And so,
21:31
Speaker 1: you know, when a business, when I'm talking to business
21:34
Speaker 1: owners and you talk about the exit, there's so many
21:37
Speaker 1: amazing things that come from after the exit that I
21:40
Speaker 1: didn't even know existed. And like a big part of
21:42
Speaker 1: that is just the rooms that you get in and
21:44
Speaker 1: the people that you meet.
21:46
Speaker 3: I love that.
21:46
Speaker 2: So networking is one of the, these young, so if
21:50
Speaker 2: I'm talking to a young group of students, let's say
21:53
Speaker 2: at the college and I'm teaching a class about entrepreneurship.
21:56
Speaker 3: Yeah.
21:56
Speaker 2: Networking is one of those things that I just pound.
21:59
Speaker 2: And most of them don't even understand what that means
22:01
Speaker 2: at this point. It's funny because they'll laugh when I say, hey,
22:04
Speaker 2: just create a LinkedIn account. Like I know nobody in
22:07
Speaker 2: your age range is using LinkedIn necessarily. And then I
22:12
Speaker 2: help them to know like every time you meet somebody,
22:14
Speaker 2: just connect with them on LinkedIn.
22:15
Speaker 3: Yeah.
22:16
Speaker 2: And that's just one little touch point that over the years,
22:21
Speaker 2: you'll start to see each other. And you'll remember that
22:24
Speaker 2: that person from five years ago, seven, 10, whatever years ago,
22:27
Speaker 2: you never know. Your college friend or roommate could be
22:29
Speaker 2: your next investor, could be your next business partner, could
22:32
Speaker 2: be your next, you know, who introduced you to your wife.
22:35
Speaker 3: Who knows?
22:36
Speaker 2: From a networking standpoint.
22:37
Speaker 3: And now.
22:39
Speaker 2: you've had this exit, you're getting invited into these different
22:42
Speaker 2: rooms and meeting all these new people, which is fantastic.
22:46
Speaker 2: I love the investing community because of that. The networking,
22:50
Speaker 2: the groups of it. So I run Influence VC. And
22:53
Speaker 2: so it's a venture capital syndicate. And so instead of
22:56
Speaker 2: a fund where I pull everybody's funds and then we invest,
22:59
Speaker 2: it's just a deal by deal basis, which so we'll
23:02
Speaker 2: grab my own funds. Plus I have a couple hundred
23:05
Speaker 2: folks that come in and then we'll put that money
23:07
Speaker 2: into one deal. And it's amazing to see the type
23:11
Speaker 2: of deal flow that comes and to be able to
23:13
Speaker 2: pick and choose what's the right deal that I'm interested in.
23:15
Speaker 1: What kind of deals have you looked into or what
23:18
Speaker 1: do you love? Is it real estate?
23:20
Speaker 2: No, so I'm on the venture side. So venture capital
23:24
Speaker 2: is more consumer product and consumer tech. So I almost
23:28
Speaker 2: do nothing. From Influence VC, I don't do real estate
23:32
Speaker 2: at all.
23:32
Speaker 3: Yeah.
23:33
Speaker 2: This is much more of just specific to venture capital. Now,
23:37
Speaker 2: my portfolio has it all. It's all included in there.
23:40
Speaker 2: Oil and real estate and even crypto you throw in there, right?
23:43
Speaker 2: And pickles, right? I'm much more diversified. But when I
23:47
Speaker 2: run influence, I try to stay specific. to things like that.
23:50
Speaker 2: So there may be some companies that people would notice
23:53
Speaker 2: on billboards like Pura. Pura is one of the portfolio companies.
23:56
Speaker 2: Gab Wireless is one of the portfolio companies.
23:59
Speaker 3: We did. Yeah, you did us. Yeah.
24:01
Speaker 2: Did you get into that one too?
24:02
Speaker 1: Yeah.
24:03
Speaker 3: I love it. I love it.
24:04
Speaker 2: So, so if we're talking about from an investment standpoint,
24:07
Speaker 2: and now you've got these entrepreneurs who are listening, they've,
24:11
Speaker 2: let's say they've built a business, they've got a little
24:13
Speaker 2: bit of free cash flow. What are you telling them
24:16
Speaker 2: to do with a little bit of extra cash? So
24:18
Speaker 2: maybe they haven't had the full exit yet, but what
24:20
Speaker 2: should they do if you're just talking about it?
24:22
Speaker 1: I'm a huge fan of delaying gratification as long as
24:25
Speaker 1: you can. Like I look back and I can honestly
24:28
Speaker 1: say in my twenties, like I literally work six days
24:31
Speaker 1: a week and just like multiple 15, 16 hour days.
24:35
Speaker 1: And because I did that, I have more freedom in
24:38
Speaker 1: my thirties than anyone else. And I delayed a lot
24:42
Speaker 1: of gratification with the cars, the house, the boats, like
24:45
Speaker 1: all those things. And so I think the biggest mistake
24:48
Speaker 1: that a lot of business owners make is like, you know,
24:50
Speaker 1: you're making an 80 to a hundred grand a year
24:53
Speaker 1: working for someone else. And you think, okay, if I
24:55
Speaker 1: can just make one 50 on my own, like it'll
24:57
Speaker 1: be worth it. And then they go make 300. And
25:00
Speaker 1: then they go spend 150 on the boat or, you know,
25:02
Speaker 1: the Raptor or like.
25:03
Speaker 3: Whatever it might be.
25:04
Speaker 1: Right. And they don't either double down on their company
25:07
Speaker 1: or pay off debt or, and they just kind of
25:09
Speaker 1: like pull off a little bit. And so look, if
25:11
Speaker 1: you have, if you have a machine that every time
25:13
Speaker 1: you feed it, you know, a dollar pays you back 20,
25:16
Speaker 1: like keep feeding that machine and like, Just know like anyone,
25:20
Speaker 1: now what I've learned now, I'm 38 and like, you're
25:24
Speaker 1: not supposed to be rich in your twenties. No one
25:26
Speaker 1: cares if your wife has a big wedding ring, if
25:29
Speaker 1: you have a nice watch or what car you drive,
25:31
Speaker 1: everyone knows you're broke. And so it's like, don't try
25:33
Speaker 1: and flex and don't try and be that guy, right?
25:36
Speaker 1: Like be willing to admit, like I'm struggling even after
25:40
Speaker 1: your twenties, but if you're in your twenties and you see,
25:42
Speaker 1: if you and I saw someone that's grinding in their twenties,
25:45
Speaker 1: not trying to show off their car, their wife's ring,
25:47
Speaker 1: the vacations that they're on, and they're just working, like
25:50
Speaker 1: that's the guy, at least I want to invest in.
25:52
Speaker 1: And that's what I tell the people, but a lot
25:54
Speaker 1: of people, they don't know how to delay gratification. And honestly,
25:57
Speaker 1: it's been one of the hardest things for me since
25:59
Speaker 1: I've sold to, you know, really not like go spend
26:03
Speaker 1: a big chunk of money on stuff. Like the nicest
26:05
Speaker 1: thing I bought, well, I bought the helicopter before I sold.
26:08
Speaker 1: So I can't like, I like, that's a, that's a
26:09
Speaker 1: proud moment. Like I didn't go buy the best helicopter,
26:12
Speaker 1: but I bought a Rolls Royce colon on, and that
26:15
Speaker 1: was like the most expensive thing that I've bought.
26:16
Speaker 3: Yeah.
26:17
Speaker 1: And I take a lot of pride in that because
26:19
Speaker 1: it's like, hey, if I can go delay gratification, if
26:21
Speaker 1: I can compound my wealth for just another 10 years,
26:25
Speaker 1: that's a whole different ballgame, even from where I'm at today.
26:28
Speaker 2: I love it, man. There's a phrase, it's not my own,
26:32
Speaker 2: but essentially, go live like nobody else will for five
26:36
Speaker 2: to 10 years so that you can live like nobody
26:38
Speaker 2: else can for the rest of your life. I've been
26:41
Speaker 2: saying that for years and years and years because that
26:44
Speaker 2: delayed gratification is amazing. incredibly valuable. And there's going to
26:48
Speaker 2: be another hundred guys just like us that are going
26:50
Speaker 2: to tell the younger generation, please go do that. I
26:54
Speaker 2: know you see us with the cabins and the ranches
26:56
Speaker 2: and the helicopters or the cars or the vacations. But
27:00
Speaker 2: you don't have to do that yet. Just put in
27:03
Speaker 2: the time and energy.
27:04
Speaker 3: No.
27:05
Speaker 2: They feel the pressure though. I think even more so
27:07
Speaker 2: now because the advent of social media where they feel
27:10
Speaker 2: like everyone is out there doing this. But the reality
27:13
Speaker 2: is The freedom that you really want will come after
27:17
Speaker 2: the grind of five to 10 years of putting in
27:20
Speaker 2: that effort. And so I'm absolutely on board with that.
27:23
Speaker 2: I'm trying to teach my kids that same thing right now.
27:26
Speaker 2: My son, 16, you know, he wants to make money.
27:30
Speaker 2: He wants to earn. He wants to grow, which is fantastic.
27:33
Speaker 2: So we're talking about different business ideas. We're using Claude
27:36
Speaker 2: and I'm teaching him how to use ChatGPT to get...
27:39
Speaker 2: And he's built a couple of things on lovable, like
27:42
Speaker 2: this little, you know, website maker type tool.
27:46
Speaker 1: Well, then there's the version that kind of flips it
27:48
Speaker 1: upside down to is like the book Die With Zero.
27:50
Speaker 3: Have you read it? No, I haven't read that one.
27:52
Speaker 2: They just spend everything before you.
27:54
Speaker 3: Die, right?
27:55
Speaker 1: You know, so it's like, I don't, you know, that's
27:58
Speaker 1: why I'm grateful for my wife. She loves the exotic trips.
28:02
Speaker 1: We went to Africa a couple of months ago.
28:03
Speaker 3: Cool.
28:04
Speaker 1: I would have never taken that trip. One, because I
28:06
Speaker 1: don't care, but two, like, it's just, I don't want
28:08
Speaker 1: to go spend, you know, that much money on a trip.
28:11
Speaker 1: But she loves experiences. And like, there's a big part of,
28:14
Speaker 1: you know, there's a time and season for you to
28:17
Speaker 1: spend your money on experiences and events. And, you know,
28:20
Speaker 1: whether that's a car for you or, you know, taking
28:22
Speaker 1: your kids to Disneyland or whatever it might be like
28:24
Speaker 1: the book, it's a good balance for me because I'm,
28:27
Speaker 1: you know, I am the saver.
28:28
Speaker 3: I am a little bit more conservative.
28:30
Speaker 1: I want to Like I want to compound and I
28:32
Speaker 1: want to double down because, you know, if I could
28:35
Speaker 1: take a hundred to 200 or 200, you know, it's like,
28:37
Speaker 1: but like, but it makes you think like, what is the, like,
28:40
Speaker 1: what is enough? And, you know, what do I want
28:43
Speaker 1: to spend on these experiences to have with my circle
28:46
Speaker 1: of friends around me? And so it was a, it
28:49
Speaker 1: was a good book. So I recommend it.
28:51
Speaker 3: How do you read that?
28:52
Speaker 2: I need to, I need to read that because I'm,
28:54
Speaker 2: I'm big into intentional planning. So, you know, I try
28:58
Speaker 2: to teach and preach. I've got a newsletter called the
29:00
Speaker 2: weekly reset.
29:01
Speaker 3: Okay.
29:02
Speaker 2: So every Sunday afternoon it sends out to people and
29:05
Speaker 2: it just gives, it's like a three to five minute
29:07
Speaker 2: read super fast. But the hope, my hope is that
29:11
Speaker 2: people take 15 minutes on a Sunday night, maybe 30
29:15
Speaker 2: if they really want to spend some time. And, you know,
29:17
Speaker 2: Casey bought it a great job of setting out this
29:20
Speaker 2: like weekly planning type structure. And his is pretty intense
29:24
Speaker 2: and has a lot of steps to it. And this
29:26
Speaker 2: is very much simple. But the newsletter is just to
29:30
Speaker 2: get into somebody's inbox so that when they go to there,
29:32
Speaker 2: if they're checking their calendar for the next week, they
29:35
Speaker 2: can start to plan out the week. And I try
29:38
Speaker 2: to take it a lot beyond that.
29:39
Speaker 3: I want.
29:39
Speaker 2: people to be planning the next day every night i
29:42
Speaker 2: want them to take that and you've been doing this
29:45
Speaker 2: no doubt for a very long time but it's crazy
29:48
Speaker 2: how many people don't take the time to plan the
29:51
Speaker 2: very next day to plan the week on sunday to
29:54
Speaker 2: plan the month and to plan the year So when
29:56
Speaker 2: you say taking these experiences, your wife loves these more
30:01
Speaker 2: exotic experiences, I love planning even the year in advance.
30:06
Speaker 2: And Jesse Itzler, love the guy. He's hilarious and has
30:09
Speaker 2: so much energy, right? He has a scene called the,
30:12
Speaker 2: pardon my French, the big ass calendar. And so when
30:16
Speaker 2: I saw that come out, I'm like, done. Sign me up.
30:19
Speaker 2: I'll even promote it to people. So it's this big
30:22
Speaker 2: one page calendar. I know you've seen it, but for
30:24
Speaker 2: those who haven't, big one page calendar, use Bubba for
30:28
Speaker 2: a discount.
30:29
Speaker 3: Let's go. There's my affiliate. And you can see the
30:32
Speaker 3: entire year.
30:33
Speaker 2: So every month has a column and all the days
30:35
Speaker 2: are there. And being able to plan out the boulders,
30:39
Speaker 2: the vacations, the campouts, the experiences like I did yesterday,
30:43
Speaker 2: Spartan races, you know, with my kids, with the people
30:46
Speaker 2: I love, getting up to the ranch that we have
30:48
Speaker 2: in Huntsville, having like, these are the things that matter
30:52
Speaker 2: most to me. making sure that I have them placed
30:55
Speaker 2: at kids' birthdays, baptisms, you know, any type of specific,
31:00
Speaker 2: you know, nieces, nephews coming home from missions because they've
31:03
Speaker 2: been serving across the world. I put them on the
31:06
Speaker 2: calendar first so that it's locked in to make sure
31:10
Speaker 2: that the most important elements of my life, the anniversaries
31:13
Speaker 2: or the, you know, they're there and I'm not going
31:16
Speaker 2: to move it around. And that's how I've been able
31:20
Speaker 2: to fit everything that I want into my life is
31:22
Speaker 2: through that intentional planning. I don't know how to do
31:25
Speaker 2: it flying by the seat of my pants. I have
31:27
Speaker 2: to plan it out. Are there certain tools? Are there
31:30
Speaker 2: certain tricks that you've done to kind of schedule or
31:34
Speaker 2: plan out your life a little bit more?
31:35
Speaker 1: Well, I'm just laughing because if, I mean, if people
31:37
Speaker 1: are listening to this podcast, like it'd be very easy
31:39
Speaker 1: to just kind of scan over what you just said,
31:42
Speaker 1: but like that one thing could change someone's life. And
31:45
Speaker 1: I mean that, and, uh, like planning is the most
31:49
Speaker 1: important thing you could do as a businessman, as a father,
31:52
Speaker 1: as a, as a, as a human being. Right. And
31:55
Speaker 1: so I'm doing a roofing roll up right now. And
31:57
Speaker 1: it's really fun because I just reverse engineer. I go
32:00
Speaker 1: and meet with all the private equity groups that will
32:03
Speaker 1: acquire me when I'm ready. And I go learn their
32:05
Speaker 1: playbook and I just keep reverse engineering what they want.
32:08
Speaker 1: And it all comes down to like bite-sized items that
32:11
Speaker 1: I need to do every single day, which leads to
32:14
Speaker 1: this roadmap of a large exit. And I just laugh because,
32:18
Speaker 1: you Like I almost had to, so I committed to
32:24
Speaker 1: it for a year last year. I did not miss
32:26
Speaker 1: one Sunday because I had my version of Casey's thing.
32:30
Speaker 1: But like you said, Casey's is like really intensive. I'd
32:32
Speaker 1: plan two and a half to three hours every single Sunday.
32:37
Speaker 1: And this year I laugh because like part of my
32:40
Speaker 1: life right now, my personality, like I'm trying to chill
32:42
Speaker 1: out a little bit. And so like, I've committed myself
32:45
Speaker 1: to 30 to 45 minutes of planning on a Sunday
32:47
Speaker 1: instead of like the two and a half hours, because
32:49
Speaker 1: I was so on top of it that it's like,
32:53
Speaker 1: it's almost scary. And so like, if you're the type
32:55
Speaker 1: of person listening to this podcast right now, and you
32:58
Speaker 1: can't seem to like connect the dots, it's just because
33:00
Speaker 1: you're not planning on, you know, your week in advance
33:04
Speaker 1: and really identifying what are the relationships that I need
33:07
Speaker 1: to curate? What are the things that have to get done?
33:09
Speaker 1: What's most important? And dude, like life is really good
33:13
Speaker 1: when you plan ahead and you really like think through
33:15
Speaker 1: it and you're in a creative space to really understand like, what,
33:19
Speaker 1: what are, what are my goals? Like, what is most important?
33:22
Speaker 1: Is it important that I'm at that, you know, birthday
33:24
Speaker 1: party or go on that trip or whatever it might be.
33:27
Speaker 1: And if you're a good planner, like you can fit
33:29
Speaker 1: almost anything in. And that's, what's, what's cool about like
33:32
Speaker 1: being so busy and running these companies is like, if you,
33:36
Speaker 1: if you plan right, like you can make it happen.
33:38
Speaker 3: I love it.
33:39
Speaker 2: So planning, core element, surrounding yourself with amazing people. Like
33:44
Speaker 2: I got to meet your business partner, right? Seems like
33:46
Speaker 2: a great guy. I know for me, I would assume,
33:49
Speaker 2: you know, we're just getting to know each other, but
33:50
Speaker 2: I'm assuming we're both visionaries. We'll call it that, right?
33:55
Speaker 2: And I think a lot of founders end up becoming,
33:58
Speaker 2: you know, they are visionaries by nature of being an entrepreneur, right?
34:02
Speaker 2: And then we partner with people who are amazing at
34:04
Speaker 2: operations day to day, you know, dotting the I's, crossing
34:07
Speaker 2: the T's. And so I always look for those types
34:11
Speaker 2: of people to help support me and my dreams and
34:14
Speaker 2: visions too. Because it's one of those things where I've,
34:17
Speaker 2: I've tried to do it alone. I've done it with
34:19
Speaker 2: partners and I prefer to do it with, with partners. I,
34:24
Speaker 2: you know, the doing it alone I did for my
34:25
Speaker 2: first company that I, I built and sold in 2020,
34:27
Speaker 2: but like, um, built from 2009 to 2020. Let me clarify.
34:32
Speaker 3: Yeah.
34:33
Speaker 2: Not, not a one year thing, an 11 year thing. Um, and, and,
34:37
Speaker 2: but the partnerships have, I mean, there have been poor
34:40
Speaker 2: partnerships along the way. That happens. But when you can
34:43
Speaker 2: find the right partner that is the yin to your yang,
34:48
Speaker 2: that's been critically important for me to have the right
34:51
Speaker 2: people and team in place. I wanted to ask you
34:53
Speaker 2: a question, though. So you talked about the planning, how
34:56
Speaker 2: critically important it is to plan out your time, your day,
35:00
Speaker 2: your week, your month, your year, and that you can get,
35:03
Speaker 2: you said, you can get so much more done when
35:06
Speaker 2: you have this intentional planning. getting to the nitty gritty,
35:11
Speaker 2: are you using any specific tools? Is it like a
35:13
Speaker 2: digital calendar? Are you using a task list? Are you using,
35:16
Speaker 2: is there anything specific that somebody can take away and
35:18
Speaker 2: be like, okay, I could, I could probably use something
35:21
Speaker 2: like that.
35:21
Speaker 1: So there's the template that, that I just followed from Casey,
35:24
Speaker 1: which he got from Stephen Covey. Right. But it's like,
35:27
Speaker 1: I just use the notes in my phone and then
35:29
Speaker 1: I use my calendar on my phone. And then I
35:32
Speaker 1: send a summary to my assistant and like, she helps
35:35
Speaker 1: me get it all done. And like, those are like
35:38
Speaker 1: the really two tools I have is the template, but
35:40
Speaker 1: what's most important is like what you do at the
35:42
Speaker 1: beginning of the year and identifying like your areas or
35:45
Speaker 1: your buckets that are most important to you. So if
35:47
Speaker 1: that's family, you know, you have your family stuff, business relationships, friends, hobbies,
35:52
Speaker 1: like those were some of my flying was one of
35:54
Speaker 1: them six and every single week I adopted the 1% better.
35:58
Speaker 1: So it's like, what can I do that gets me
36:00
Speaker 1: 1% better in these six things that I identified at
36:03
Speaker 1: the beginning of the year that were most important to me.
36:06
Speaker 1: And then I go through that list and I start
36:08
Speaker 1: to jot down like, Hey, what is it this week
36:10
Speaker 1: that I want to do? And one of the cool
36:12
Speaker 1: things for me was like, I wanted to be a
36:14
Speaker 1: great friend. And so I listed out like all my
36:16
Speaker 1: friends that I felt like I wanted to get closer to.
36:20
Speaker 1: And I would just like rotate through that friends, you know,
36:23
Speaker 1: that list of maybe 12 to 15 people and just
36:26
Speaker 1: have like, it's, it sounds bad, but it's like, it's
36:28
Speaker 1: just how my brain works. It's like, Hey, Tuesday, hit
36:31
Speaker 1: up Sean, see how he's doing, hit up Ryan, you know?
36:34
Speaker 1: And like we got closer and That's what I love.
36:36
Speaker 1: Like the 1% theory of just like the importance of
36:39
Speaker 1: like little, these are like little text messages. Hey bro, just,
36:42
Speaker 1: just want to let you know, I'm thinking of you.
36:43
Speaker 1: And it was planned to do on Wednesday morning at
36:45
Speaker 1: six 30 when I'm in the sauna, but it's like,
36:47
Speaker 1: I did it. And it, for me, it wasn't checking
36:49
Speaker 1: a box.
36:49
Speaker 3: It was me.
36:50
Speaker 1: Like I, at the beginning of the week, I genuinely
36:52
Speaker 1: wanted to know how he was doing, but like with
36:55
Speaker 1: everything going on, like the days just fly by. If
36:57
Speaker 1: I don't schedule that text, if I don't put in there, Hey,
37:01
Speaker 1: I want to, I want to, you know, review emergency
37:04
Speaker 1: procedures for the helicopter. I'm never going to do that,
37:08
Speaker 1: you know, but like, I want to get to be
37:10
Speaker 1: a better pilot every single week and month. And so like,
37:13
Speaker 1: those are just the little things, but as far as
37:14
Speaker 1: tools go, like I just, I'm a huge Apple fan.
37:16
Speaker 1: So I utilize, you know, the basic free apps, the
37:19
Speaker 1: calendar section. But I have that template that works for me.
37:23
Speaker 2: Okay, so this is what's so cool is you don't
37:25
Speaker 2: have to have some expensive thing. You don't have to
37:28
Speaker 2: have some crazy new tool. Like literally anybody who's listening,
37:31
Speaker 2: you can take the time to utilize your phone, to
37:34
Speaker 2: utilize your notes tabs. I'm a huge digital calendar kind
37:38
Speaker 2: of guy too. I know some people like paper. If
37:40
Speaker 2: you're into paper, that's cool. You just have to make
37:42
Speaker 2: sure it's with you at all times. Otherwise it's going to,
37:46
Speaker 2: you're going to miss certain things when you're trying to
37:48
Speaker 2: plan and structure and schedule. And I mean, here's, here's
37:52
Speaker 2: a little, a tidbit. So I've been working with a
37:55
Speaker 2: lot of entrepreneurs over the last few years. I mean,
38:00
Speaker 2: decade of mentorship, but it's become a little bit more
38:02
Speaker 2: serious than the last couple of years. Yeah. And The
38:06
Speaker 2: reason I bring up the planning and why I'm kind
38:08
Speaker 2: of hounding this is because most don't do it. Most
38:12
Speaker 2: people are not planning their day or week or year.
38:16
Speaker 2: They're just not doing it because it takes effort. It
38:19
Speaker 2: takes intentionality and it hurts your brain sometimes trying.
38:22
Speaker 3: To put it together. It's a commitment. It is a commitment.
38:25
Speaker 2: And so we're putting together soon. I'm working on an
38:29
Speaker 2: app called Becoming. So it's becoming.app. I wish I could
38:33
Speaker 2: say the website's ready. Hopefully by the time this goes out, becoming.app.
38:39
Speaker 2: Because there's just some of these key principles. If I
38:42
Speaker 2: can incorporate them. these life lessons of a daily nightly
38:46
Speaker 2: planning of capturing the ideas that go in your head
38:51
Speaker 2: throughout the day. You know, you might be driving and
38:53
Speaker 2: you have this thought, this incredible thought, but then by
38:57
Speaker 2: the end of your drive, you've forgotten it. And so
38:59
Speaker 2: to be able to say, Hey Siri, you know, remind
39:02
Speaker 2: me to and have it like document every thought that
39:05
Speaker 2: you have throughout the day. And then at the end
39:07
Speaker 2: of the day, my goal is, taking all of those
39:14
Speaker 2: thoughts and ideas or tasks, to-dos, reviewing them to know, okay,
39:19
Speaker 2: my top things I have to get done tomorrow and
39:22
Speaker 2: then plan out the others throughout the week or the month.
39:25
Speaker 2: Because that capturing, I think God is trying to communicate
39:28
Speaker 2: with us 24-7. I think he's literally trying to speak
39:31
Speaker 2: to us at all times. And we sometimes are so busy,
39:35
Speaker 2: so many things going on that we don't always hear.
39:38
Speaker 2: And so this meditative process you talked about, maybe you
39:42
Speaker 2: went on, you're going on walks, um, that you go
39:44
Speaker 2: into the sauna that you're so, so talk to me,
39:48
Speaker 2: how do you get this, you know, input maybe from
39:51
Speaker 2: the big man upstairs to help you?
39:54
Speaker 3: What are you doing in your life?
39:55
Speaker 1: I am a huge digital guy, but in the sauna
39:57
Speaker 1: in the morning, I do go pen to paper because
39:59
Speaker 1: I don't want the, like, I don't want the chat.
40:02
Speaker 3: Like, I don't want the, uh.
40:03
Speaker 1: Not the challenge, but no, like the, uh, distraction. Oh,
40:07
Speaker 1: I can't think of the word. Like the, uh, when
40:09
Speaker 1: you don't want to do something like, I don't know,
40:13
Speaker 1: whatever it is, but I don't want to have to
40:15
Speaker 1: be like, I don't want to touch that phone.
40:17
Speaker 3: Right. Like I don't want that.
40:18
Speaker 1: Um, and so, but having that space without the phone
40:23
Speaker 1: and being able to just write down my thoughts is like,
40:27
Speaker 1: it's huge for me.
40:28
Speaker 2: So what are you doing in your life to be
40:30
Speaker 2: able to get more thoughts like that? What are some
40:33
Speaker 2: things that you would say? You go to the gym.
40:34
Speaker 2: Gym is a key piece for you. What other pieces
40:37
Speaker 2: are you doing like on a weekly basis or daily
40:40
Speaker 2: basis to be able to hear?
40:43
Speaker 1: Yeah. No, like it's what we've been talking about. Setting
40:47
Speaker 1: that time aside without the phone, without distractions, without music
40:51
Speaker 1: to just have that moment. And that's why like I
40:54
Speaker 1: love the cold plunge because like you have to like
40:59
Speaker 1: you only have you in there. Like one of my
41:01
Speaker 1: favorite things is when I get in the cold plunge,
41:03
Speaker 1: like the first, you know, minute is me saying a
41:05
Speaker 1: prayer and like, it really calms myself down. And then
41:08
Speaker 1: it's like, and then it's meditation for the next minute,
41:11
Speaker 1: minute and a half. And then I sit in the
41:13
Speaker 1: sauna and I, and I write pen to paper of
41:15
Speaker 1: all the different ideas. I've tried the, like Casey's huge
41:19
Speaker 1: on like things that you're grateful for. And, um, like
41:23
Speaker 1: I am statements, um, I haven't been as good about that,
41:27
Speaker 1: but that's been, when I have done it, I've enjoyed that,
41:30
Speaker 1: but mostly just what thoughts come to my mind, write
41:33
Speaker 1: it down, and then I just take a picture of
41:34
Speaker 1: it and put it in my phone after that.
41:37
Speaker 2: This is the kind of stuff that I love sharing
41:38
Speaker 2: because I don't think people.
41:41
Speaker 2: There are some people watching saying, how the heck did
41:44
Speaker 2: these guys do it? How did you go from the
41:47
Speaker 2: college kid to the guy with the helicopter? Over this
41:52
Speaker 2: time span, what were the things you were doing every
41:56
Speaker 2: day that got you to that point? And so if
41:58
Speaker 2: we were to summarize, we've got planning as a major element.
42:01
Speaker 2: Where do you want to go?
42:03
Speaker 3: Stephen R. Covey, right?
42:04
Speaker 2: Start with the end in mind. Where do you want
42:05
Speaker 2: to be in three, five, and 10 years? And working backwards,
42:09
Speaker 2: trying to figure out, this is what I love doing
42:11
Speaker 2: with the Business Bootcamp. Where do you want to go?
42:14
Speaker 2: What do you want to do and be and accomplish? Right?
42:16
Speaker 2: And then if you work backwards and you're saying, I
42:18
Speaker 2: want to earn a million dollars a year. Great.
42:20
Speaker 3: How?
42:21
Speaker 2: That means you have to have $ 80, 000 a month.
42:23
Speaker 1: Right.
42:23
Speaker 2: And if you're going to get $ 80, 000, then how many
42:25
Speaker 2: are you going to do a week? And how many
42:27
Speaker 2: products do you have to sell? How many of this?
42:30
Speaker 2: And so it's working through those planning iterations. You talked about,
42:35
Speaker 2: you know, the physical fitness side of it. You're sauna-ing,
42:39
Speaker 2: you're cold plunging, you're going to the gym, keeping yourself
42:41
Speaker 2: physically and mentally fit and awake, you know. You've got
42:46
Speaker 2: your family time. That's a non-negotiable that you've blocked out
42:49
Speaker 2: that time that you, you would need and want to
42:51
Speaker 2: spend with them on a daily, weekly type basis. Um,
42:55
Speaker 2: and so I wanted to ask you a question about this,
42:58
Speaker 2: this idea of freedom. And so like the emotional reality
43:03
Speaker 2: of selling a company that you spent more than a
43:05
Speaker 2: decade building and I'm right there with you.
43:08
Speaker 3: Yeah.
43:09
Speaker 2: Did it feel like freedom loss or both?
43:14
Speaker 1: That's a great question, man. Um, it didn't, nothing felt real.
43:18
Speaker 1: Like a lot of people talk about when they first
43:19
Speaker 1: look at their bank account and the numbers in there,
43:21
Speaker 1: like it never felt real. And like, it just, yeah.
43:27
Speaker 1: And so I remember about two days after we sold,
43:31
Speaker 1: we were driving by the freeway in our office, backed
43:33
Speaker 1: up to the freeway. And I was with my wife,
43:34
Speaker 1: we were going out to dinner, uh, as we're driving by,
43:37
Speaker 1: like I look over and she's like crying. And, you know,
43:41
Speaker 1: because she's crying, I start crying and I'm like, I
43:43
Speaker 1: didn't know you loved green mango that much. Like, and she's,
43:46
Speaker 1: and she's like, I didn't know you did it. We're
43:48
Speaker 1: like bawling going down the street. And so like, it was, uh,
43:51
Speaker 1: there was a lot of sense of like gratitude, a
43:54
Speaker 1: lot of sense of like accomplishment and also like, okay,
43:58
Speaker 1: like this is just kind of the next chapter in
44:00
Speaker 1: our life. And that was, that was fun. There's a
44:02
Speaker 1: lot of stresses and a lot of pain and, and
44:04
Speaker 1: suffering and wondering if we'll make it. But like, there
44:07
Speaker 1: was a lot of pride in knowing that, like, we
44:09
Speaker 1: kind of pulled off almost the impossible that not many
44:12
Speaker 1: people get to do. And so I would say like
44:14
Speaker 1: how I'd summarize it is just like a lot of
44:16
Speaker 1: gratitude for what, like what took place. Because when you
44:19
Speaker 1: think about the guy, like I didn't, like, you know,
44:23
Speaker 1: I say this, like everyone said when we were growing up,
44:26
Speaker 1: but you have to go to college to like be successful.
44:28
Speaker 1: If you're not going to be a doctor or a lawyer,
44:30
Speaker 1: like kind of good luck, you know? And so I
44:33
Speaker 1: was a C student at best. Like I got just
44:36
Speaker 1: good enough grades to play basketball and like I shouldn't
44:41
Speaker 1: be where I'm at today. And, you know, like all
44:45
Speaker 1: those things are cool that you just mentioned. Like I
44:48
Speaker 1: just didn't give up. And I think that's one of
44:50
Speaker 1: the most important things, messages that people could hear today
44:53
Speaker 1: is like I tried to sell it three years in
44:55
Speaker 1: because I wasn't making any money.
44:58
Speaker 3: And no one would take it.
44:59
Speaker 1: Like I was just trying to get 250 grand back
45:01
Speaker 1: because that's what we owed my dad as an investment.
45:04
Speaker 1: And luckily no one would take Green Mango for 250 grand.
45:07
Speaker 1: And so because I didn't want to lose my dad's money,
45:09
Speaker 1: I just kept showing up every single day. And again,
45:12
Speaker 1: going back to the compound effect of if you just
45:15
Speaker 1: keep showing up and you treat everything, most people come
45:19
Speaker 1: into like a roadblock and treat it as a roadblock
45:21
Speaker 1: and they either stop and turn.
45:23
Speaker 3: Away or they quit.
45:24
Speaker 1: But if you look at those moments as just detours,
45:27
Speaker 1: that's when successful people push through. And that's luckily what
45:31
Speaker 1: I did. And, you know, I was like, and so like,
45:34
Speaker 1: I shouldn't be here. I shouldn't, you know what I mean?
45:36
Speaker 1: I just worked hard and I tried to treat my,
45:39
Speaker 1: my people around me with as much respect as I could.
45:42
Speaker 1: And I tried to take care of them to the
45:44
Speaker 1: best of my ability. And because of that, like I
45:46
Speaker 1: had a lot of great people around me and, you know,
45:49
Speaker 1: a lot of people have worked for one company and,
45:53
Speaker 1: you know, so that one, they come to work for
45:54
Speaker 1: me for another one because they love that. But, it
45:57
Speaker 1: was just really like a rewarding feeling when that happened. So,
46:00
Speaker 1: and like, because I love business, like I feel like
46:03
Speaker 1: I haven't been out of the game yet either. Like
46:05
Speaker 1: it really probably hasn't like completely hit me. Like I said,
46:08
Speaker 1: I didn't go out and buy the second house. I
46:10
Speaker 1: didn't go out and buy like all these crazy things.
46:12
Speaker 1: Luckily I was making, you know, really good money before
46:15
Speaker 1: I sold too. And so like a lot of the,
46:17
Speaker 1: the house.
46:17
Speaker 3: Was already built. We were already living in it.
46:19
Speaker 1: A lot of the things that I wanted, we kind
46:21
Speaker 1: of already had. And so like my life kind of
46:23
Speaker 1: just kept kind of go like a lot of the
46:25
Speaker 1: stress financially, like wasn't there. Like I took green mango,
46:29
Speaker 1: my personal savings account back down to zero four months
46:32
Speaker 1: before I sold, like just doubling down on things. And
46:36
Speaker 1: so like that kind of stress, even to the end,
46:38
Speaker 1: like sure. I had a bunch of assets to liquidate
46:41
Speaker 1: if I really needed it, but like, nonetheless, like I
46:43
Speaker 1: remember screenshotting it and you know, I'm a religious guy.
46:48
Speaker 1: Like there's a really cool story around tithing there and
46:50
Speaker 1: paying tithing and like, Just like, just these miracles that
46:55
Speaker 1: just happen that come from being, you know, I'm not
46:58
Speaker 1: going to be like, oh, I'm like a really good guy.
47:00
Speaker 1: But like, I try my best. And I think like
47:02
Speaker 1: God rewards that. And, you know, a friend made a
47:05
Speaker 1: comment the other day about like me getting a front
47:07
Speaker 1: row parking spot in Newport, which.
47:09
Speaker 3: You know, like... So hard. And they're like, they're like.
47:12
Speaker 1: They're like, of course, Cam has like the best timing ever.
47:16
Speaker 1: And like, it was just like, they weren't trying to
47:18
Speaker 1: take a jab, but they're like, like the thing around
47:20
Speaker 1: Cam is like, he has the best timing.
47:22
Speaker 2: Yeah.
47:22
Speaker 1: And I've actually really thought about that the past month.
47:25
Speaker 1: And I'm like, I don't think this is like a
47:27
Speaker 1: coincidence that I just enter into the markets or I've
47:30
Speaker 1: built this company or I'm like, I just think like
47:33
Speaker 1: if you treat people with respect, if you do your best,
47:36
Speaker 1: I'm not perfect, but like, I think God takes care
47:39
Speaker 1: of you. And I think like, It rewards the people
47:41
Speaker 1: that keep pushing and keep trying.
47:43
Speaker 3: Yeah.
47:44
Speaker 2: Oh, I love that, man. And even the principle of tithing.
47:47
Speaker 2: I know there's plenty of people who, whether you believe
47:49
Speaker 2: or don't believe in tithing, I'm with you, man. I'm
47:52
Speaker 2: going to give that 10% because it's always coming back
47:55
Speaker 2: way more. And some people think we're crazy for doing that.
48:00
Speaker 2: And yet I will never stop doing that.
48:03
Speaker 3: It's just way too valuable. It's hard for me every year,
48:04
Speaker 3: but somehow I.
48:05
Speaker 1: Right.
48:06
Speaker 2: Well, the number keeps getting bigger, no doubt. And so,
48:09
Speaker 2: but the... if I truly believe that we were sent
48:14
Speaker 2: here by a greater being, by a heavenly father who
48:16
Speaker 2: loves us, and we were put here on this earth
48:19
Speaker 2: with a greater purpose than us, then it's not my
48:23
Speaker 2: money in the beginning. It's not my money in the
48:25
Speaker 2: first place, right? So like any of these assets or
48:27
Speaker 2: the portfolio or the strategy, it's not mine anyway. And
48:31
Speaker 2: so to be able to only give 10% of it
48:32
Speaker 2: back is, is for me such a minimal component. Does
48:38
Speaker 2: it still hurt? Yes. Of course it still hurts, you know,
48:41
Speaker 2: to write that check, but it's, um, but the blessings
48:44
Speaker 2: completely outweigh that sacrifice. No question in my mind.
48:47
Speaker 3: Yeah.
48:48
Speaker 2: And I just hope that, uh, and we got to
48:50
Speaker 2: wrap up here, but like, I hope the people who
48:52
Speaker 2: are listening, they can tell that, um, we're trying to
48:56
Speaker 2: just work hard we're trying to provide we're trying to
48:58
Speaker 2: protect we're trying to preside for our families we're trying
49:00
Speaker 2: to be good dads we want to be good friends
49:03
Speaker 2: i love that you're intentionally reaching out to your friends
49:05
Speaker 2: most guys don't have close friendships yeah and and it's
49:09
Speaker 2: hard if you're not intentional about those friendships too and
49:12
Speaker 2: doing adventures or connecting on other ways And so I'm just,
49:16
Speaker 2: I'm grateful you're here. I'm grateful you took time to come.
49:19
Speaker 2: Flew in on his helicopter. I got to grab him
49:21
Speaker 2: in between all these meetings he's got going on for
49:24
Speaker 2: you to come in here. So last question, if you're
49:26
Speaker 2: open to it.
49:26
Speaker 3: Yeah.
49:28
Speaker 2: All right. So here it is. When your life is over,
49:33
Speaker 2: what do you hope your children say mattered most to
49:36
Speaker 2: their dad?
49:38
Speaker 1: I haven't been like, uh, you, we actually talked about
49:40
Speaker 1: this on the way up to the, on the helicopter
49:42
Speaker 1: this morning. I'm not like this guy that cares about
49:45
Speaker 1: having his name on a building or like that type
49:47
Speaker 1: of legacy. Like I just want my family to know
49:50
Speaker 1: that I love them and that like I was my word. Um,
49:54
Speaker 1: like that's really important to me. We talked a little
49:56
Speaker 1: bit about divorce before we started. And, um, you know, I,
50:00
Speaker 1: I shared with you that my parents got a divorce
50:02
Speaker 1: at a very early age. And one of my first
50:06
Speaker 1: memories was my dad leaving. And I'll never forget, like,
50:09
Speaker 1: I thought my dad was like leaving, leaving. I didn't
50:11
Speaker 1: know what that, what, what it meant, but my dad
50:13
Speaker 1: made me a commitment and a promise that he'll always
50:16
Speaker 1: be on time because our days were, you know, once
50:19
Speaker 1: a week and then every other weekend. And I think
50:22
Speaker 1: it was five o'clock, but like my dad never, he,
50:24
Speaker 1: I just, I remember the sound of this truck coming
50:26
Speaker 1: around the corner. Like if it was five o'clock, he
50:29
Speaker 1: was there at four 58. He was never late one time.
50:33
Speaker 1: And like that stood out to me. And so like,
50:35
Speaker 1: even to this day, if my dad tells me I'll
50:37
Speaker 1: be there at seven o'clock, like I'll bet any amount
50:39
Speaker 1: of money you want, he will be there like five
50:42
Speaker 1: minutes early. He will not be late. And I think
50:44
Speaker 1: that's really powerful being your word because time translates into
50:48
Speaker 1: a lot of other things. And if you're your word,
50:50
Speaker 1: like that's worth more than anything. And so when we
50:53
Speaker 1: talk about like the kids, I hope my kids see
50:55
Speaker 1: that I had a great balance of work and life
50:58
Speaker 1: because one of the things that like my kids just
51:00
Speaker 1: need to understand is that Like one of the things
51:03
Speaker 1: that makes me happy is like, I love to work,
51:05
Speaker 1: but I also love being with them. But like everyone,
51:08
Speaker 1: you know, after three hours a day, like it's kind
51:11
Speaker 1: of tough on me to be with the kids for
51:12
Speaker 1: that long. And so like, I just want them to
51:15
Speaker 1: know that I love them and that I worked hard
51:17
Speaker 1: to provide a life that, you know, was comfortable, but
51:20
Speaker 1: I also like help them achieve it. I'm not going
51:22
Speaker 1: to give Banks anything, but I'm going to give him
51:24
Speaker 1: a lot of opportunities to be really successful. And I
51:27
Speaker 1: think that's like, what's, what's important.
51:29
Speaker 3: I love it.
51:30
Speaker 2: That's so good, man. Well, where can everybody find you?
51:32
Speaker 2: Where do you want them to come and find you
51:34
Speaker 2: online or anywhere else?
51:36
Speaker 3: Yeah.
51:36
Speaker 1: So my website's hypefarm.com, H-Y-P-E-P-H-A-R-M. It talks about all the
51:42
Speaker 1: different things that I'm up to. So the 1% Club,
51:44
Speaker 1: which is the business group, I'm doing a roofing roll up,
51:47
Speaker 1: which is really fun. And that's just targeted towards like
51:50
Speaker 1: most roofers hit five to $ 10 million in revenue and
51:53
Speaker 1: they've just kind of plateaued and they're looking for an exit.
51:56
Speaker 3: And there's just a.
51:57
Speaker 1: Great opportunity that I have right now with bundling people
51:59
Speaker 1: together and selling to private equity. And so that's really fun.
52:04
Speaker 1: And then Coconut, which is our carpet cleaning business, which
52:07
Speaker 1: I'm going to take care of you. We'll get your
52:09
Speaker 1: house clean.
52:09
Speaker 3: It'll be fun.
52:10
Speaker 1: But that's a franchise model. And these guys, we have
52:13
Speaker 1: 10 locations right now. We launched it a couple of
52:16
Speaker 1: years ago. And I think it's going to be bigger
52:19
Speaker 1: than Green Mango. It's an amazing business model. These guys
52:22
Speaker 1: are going out and crushing it. their first year. And
52:24
Speaker 1: so when you talk about like, what's a great opportunity
52:27
Speaker 1: for a business guy that's sitting back, like, what should
52:30
Speaker 1: I do? Or a corporate America guy? It's like, dude,
52:33
Speaker 1: you can come here and make six figures, you know,
52:35
Speaker 1: really fast if you can come in and double down
52:38
Speaker 1: on our systems.
52:38
Speaker 2: And so. Yeah.
52:40
Speaker 1: And then, you know, my Instagram is cbodden, B-A-W-D-E-N.
52:44
Speaker 2: I love it. Everybody go check out Cameron Bodden. So
52:47
Speaker 2: grateful to have you. Father, investor, entrepreneur, helicopter pilot, racer,
52:54
Speaker 2: all the things. You guys, thanks for being here at
52:56
Speaker 2: the Fatherhood Movement Podcast.
52:57
Speaker 3: I'm your host, Bubba Page.
52:59
Speaker 2: We'll see you next time.
53:01
Speaker 3: Thanks, man.