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Just the Cats 6-26-26 · Just The Cats

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Just the Cats with Michael Bennett.
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  Speaker 2: All right, welcome in.
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  Speaker 3: No Michael Bennett, definitely know Michael Bennett here, that is
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  Speaker 3: my guy. But you have the crew from the Locker,
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  Speaker 3: The Locker four one one, Anthony White, former UK running
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  Speaker 3: back and Ben Howe, former UK and NFL defensive back.
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  Speaker 2: Here to do this show for you guys on just
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  Speaker 2: to catch radio.
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  Speaker 3: Why Michael Bennett takes time to do some of his
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  Speaker 3: personal duties. If you like to join the show, you
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  Speaker 3: to one four fourteen fifty as well. We got Matthew,
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  Speaker 3: Matt Reducer who joins in the show pretty frequently. You know,
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  Speaker 3: give us a different opinion. Uh, he is a little fan,
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  Speaker 3: and don't hold that against him. I looked at the
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  Speaker 3: stats and algorithm from yesterday and they don't like the
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  Speaker 3: fact that he's a Lituiver fan. But then I thought,
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  Speaker 3: a nice warm hug. He's an honest little fan. He's
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  Speaker 3: not one of those obnoxious or.
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  Speaker 2: Fan so, you know, so.
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  Speaker 3: Give Matt, give mat a little bit of grace and man, man,
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  Speaker 3: I you know Matt's all right with me? Is it
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  Speaker 3: alright with you?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? He cool with me.
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  Speaker 3: I'm just saying there it took us to uncover this
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  Speaker 3: this fact, or or then people know this already, because
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  Speaker 3: if it took us to uncover this fact, we might
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  Speaker 3: have to get us a PI year.
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  Speaker 2: We might be probably investigators.
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  Speaker 3: Man, because if we've done this out of the out
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  Speaker 3: of the vault, how long you been working him out?
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  Speaker 1: I've been working over over a year.
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  Speaker 2: Now, okay, twelve months.
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  Speaker 3: No one found out, no one has has has figured
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  Speaker 3: out that Matt was dumping the rhythmic comments for Michael.
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  Speaker 3: He was saying good stuff like this is someone when
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  Speaker 3: we had when Michael Bennett had dead, and it was
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  Speaker 3: a reason for that was because Matt was dumping the
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  Speaker 3: good stuff because he was he was setting this lootle.
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  Speaker 2: We are good people, man, We find out stuff. Hey,
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  Speaker 2: and that's why people should tune in. And people tuned in.
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  Speaker 3: I got we got messages all afternoon after the show
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  Speaker 3: was over. So I think we did a pretty decent
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  Speaker 3: job and hopefully Michael would be proud of the job
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  Speaker 3: we did yesterday. We're gonna try and do it even
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  Speaker 3: better job today because Van Hiles, I sent you a
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  Speaker 3: I sent you a I sent you some information about
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  Speaker 3: our beloved cats, our beloved Well when we say beloved cats,
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  Speaker 3: you know, we cover a lot of sports to me
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  Speaker 3: that could be skared enter in the volleyball team that
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  Speaker 3: you know, I can be Garrison in Gymnast six team
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  Speaker 3: that actually be lost in the softball team team you
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  Speaker 3: know the other the other schools don't have to really
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  Speaker 3: be or the other teams don't have to really be.
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  Speaker 2: Man, they got our beloved cats ranked SEC.
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  Speaker 3: Nation got our beloved Cats ranked sixteenth in the SEC
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  Speaker 3: and football. And Matt, we're gonna keep you out of
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  Speaker 3: this discussion because I really, after I gave you such
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  Speaker 3: a great introduction, I do.
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  Speaker 2: Not want to hear your opinion about that. Man, they
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  Speaker 2: got us.
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  Speaker 1: That's okay, I get it. You know what I understand.
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  Speaker 1: Also in the vaccine. If you guys have any questions,
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  Speaker 1: y'all be here.
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  Speaker 3: Man, they got us ranked sixteenth. They have us ranked
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  Speaker 3: sixteenth in the SEC for this football season.
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  Speaker 2: There are sixteen teams in SEC. Now whatever.
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  Speaker 1: When happened, No, they had to add some just to
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  Speaker 1: put Kentucky down there.
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  Speaker 3: Appreciated Hey, Anthony, I mean, look, man, I can't say
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  Speaker 3: too much, Bron, I can't say too much about that.
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  Speaker 3: I think it's I think it's unfair, but I think
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  Speaker 3: it's fair. I mean, I was on a one in
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  Speaker 3: ten team. That means we won zero conference games, so
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  Speaker 3: I'm sure we were at the but there was only twelve.
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  Speaker 2: So you know what we can say we were not.
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  Speaker 3: We are not the least ranked team because we was
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  Speaker 3: only twelve, because there were only twelve teams back there.
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  Speaker 3: Here's the deal, and this is why I know about
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  Speaker 3: these rankings. You know this stuff is all offensive, right,
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  Speaker 3: It's all about your offensive production returning. That's where a
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  Speaker 3: lot of people get all these freaking stats from defense
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  Speaker 3: don't matter, and it matters none. So what happens is
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  Speaker 3: we have zero returner production from last year offense, no quarterback,
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  Speaker 3: no running. I mean, if you go run running back
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  Speaker 3: and receiver, we might have five percent of production returning.
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  Speaker 3: So therefore new coach, no start of returning. I can
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  Speaker 3: see them picking us last. We are not the worst
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  Speaker 3: team in the conference. We're gonna be somewhere in that
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  Speaker 3: that bottom third, probably without schedule playing Alabama and Texas
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  Speaker 3: and m two and three doesn't help, so we'll see.
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  Speaker 3: I don't I don't see us as dead last. But
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  Speaker 3: I can understand. Here's the thing. You gotta look at
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  Speaker 3: the perspective from people like me from out of state.
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  Speaker 3: They don't see all the practices and all the energy
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  Speaker 3: and all the positive vibes come out and be being.
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  Speaker 3: All they see is what they see on paper. So
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  Speaker 3: I understand. I don't think it's right.
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  Speaker 2: Though.
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  Speaker 3: We talked about this yesterday then and you I don't
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  Speaker 3: really agree with you. I agree with you, but I
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  Speaker 3: don't really agree with you. Because if the program is
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  Speaker 3: going where we wanted to go, and you said, like
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  Speaker 3: you said, a coach that was giving us wake up,
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  Speaker 3: put your put your slippers on in the morning. Seven wins.
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  Speaker 3: That's beaten Matt and his homeboys, Louisville and them three
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  Speaker 3: and them three other joints, directional schools.
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  Speaker 2: That's now. That's that'll give you four. All we need
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  Speaker 2: is three. We can go.
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  Speaker 3: We just need three wins at three and five in
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  Speaker 3: sec to get to where our fan base wanted us be.
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  Speaker 3: Then it raised he raised a little bit, like you said,
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  Speaker 3: we raised it eight. So we need to go four
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  Speaker 3: and four. We need to get them four out of
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  Speaker 3: the conference games, and then we need to get four
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  Speaker 3: in conference games at so we need to be five
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  Speaker 3: hundred the conference. Again, the gift and the curse. Mark
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  Speaker 3: Stoups raised the bar to the expectation was ten. We
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  Speaker 3: need ten out of you and for you guys listening.
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  Speaker 3: And this is more so me. Van is on the
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  Speaker 3: He's been on the fence. I don't know if you
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  Speaker 3: changed your stings, you've been on the fence. I don't
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  Speaker 3: count the bowl games.
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  Speaker 2: Like when I was.
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  Speaker 3: Fortunate enough to play in half my well two thirds
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  Speaker 3: of my time playing, I was fortunate enough to play
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  Speaker 3: in bowl games. And to me, my junior year going
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  Speaker 3: to my senior year, it was cool. My senior year,
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  Speaker 3: it was really like they were getting ready for the
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  Speaker 3: next year. Really had nothing to do with me, So
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  Speaker 3: it was not really a big deal. But I so
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  Speaker 3: so those ten win seasons for all, for all intents
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  Speaker 3: and purposes, it's pretty, it's cute, it's sexy, but it's
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  Speaker 3: actually nine wins in my book. But the bar was
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  Speaker 3: raised to, well, we just want to win, and our
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  Speaker 3: fan base says, we just want to win, you know,
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  Speaker 3: ten games every now and then we want to you
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  Speaker 3: want to Here's the two things, man, we want to
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  Speaker 3: sniff the SEC championship game, and we want to at
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  Speaker 3: least win ten games every now and then.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know what every now and then they are.
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  Speaker 3: Expecting, but three times and three it might be four
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  Speaker 3: now I think it's still three, three or four. It's
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  Speaker 3: three or four times in the history of the program
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  Speaker 3: have we won ten games. And that's to be an expectation.
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  Speaker 3: Will Stein is stepping his feet into some big shoes.
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  Speaker 3: They may be size fifteens. I don't know what side
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  Speaker 3: shoes he's stepping into. But I like the little I
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  Speaker 3: like the Little Jokers energy. I mean he's a small guy,
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  Speaker 3: man young. I like his energy, and he this type
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  Speaker 3: of person you can hit up side the head a
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  Speaker 3: few times. He's gonna bounce back and figure it out.
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  Speaker 3: So I'm here for it, man, I'm here for it.
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  Speaker 3: So when you got the national pundit saying the bottom
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  Speaker 3: of the conference and you got Van Hile saying, well,
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  Speaker 3: I can see why they say that because we have
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  Speaker 3: nothing returning. I'm on the other back end thinking what
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  Speaker 3: is Big Blue Nation? Thinking like, where where do we
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  Speaker 3: go from here? You know, we could wake up and
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  Speaker 3: get seven eight games. Now, you know, Mark Stuke's last
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  Speaker 3: two years wasn't where we want to be, but it
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  Speaker 3: was it was decent enough. And now every national pund is,
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  Speaker 3: even van Os was like, well bottom third.
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  Speaker 2: Of the SEC.
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  Speaker 3: National punds say the uh the basement of the SEC. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: you you just said something. It's four times in school
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  Speaker 3: history with one double digit games, and two of them
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  Speaker 3: is by Stoops. The other two was in the seventies
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  Speaker 3: and the fifties, and one of those seventies was because
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  Speaker 3: apparently we were cheating.
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  Speaker 2: So do you cout that? No, it's I want I'm
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  Speaker 2: an engineer and I'm.
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  Speaker 3: A math guy, and it's very simple math for me.
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  Speaker 3: You got three non conference games, one of is those
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  Speaker 3: hated red red Birds out West into non conference games.
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  Speaker 3: If you win those, that's three. We have six No,
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  Speaker 3: I mean no non non conference games. You have to
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  Speaker 3: win six of them. That means you gotta be six
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  Speaker 3: and three. That means you gotta be over five hundred.
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  Speaker 3: How many times have we been over five hundred in
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  Speaker 3: school history?
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  Speaker 2: Are you you are?
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  Speaker 3: Realistically, if you are a gambler, which I am not,
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  Speaker 3: I have I have come off that that perch a
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  Speaker 3: long time ago. But if you are a gambling man,
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  Speaker 3: you you go by the odds. In the history, the
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  Speaker 3: history of us to win in six games is not
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  Speaker 3: very high. So if we are going six games, if
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  Speaker 3: we win three, the greatest season we can have is
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  Speaker 3: nine right now, right, nine regular season games. Again, right,
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  Speaker 3: if you expecting us to go seven to two in
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  Speaker 3: all in sec you're asking a lot the great teams
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  Speaker 3: in that secs, I'll go seven and two. Most of
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  Speaker 3: the time you have one or two teams. There's only
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  Speaker 3: it's only possible to be one or two tas right.
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  Speaker 3: That's so, here's the deal. Will Stein can usher. It's
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  Speaker 3: like to have money. Deal, right, will Stein can usher
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  Speaker 3: in some excitement and into the program. With the offensive
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  Speaker 3: side of the ball, we have not had a good offense.
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  Speaker 3: We have not had an average offense but one time
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  Speaker 3: in the Stoops twelve plus years of coaching, and that
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  Speaker 3: was Lim Cohen year.
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  Speaker 2: That's it. We've only had one above.
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  Speaker 3: Average offense in all those years, and that is whoa, whoa, whoa,
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  Speaker 3: what's that. I'm gonna let you get back to that.
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  Speaker 3: But that Terry Wilson offense that went down in Florida
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  Speaker 3: Terry and Lim Bowl and them Benny. That just that
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  Speaker 3: just proved a lot. When you reference just one game, youence, no, no, no,
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  Speaker 3: they did a lot of things. Are you talking about? Okay,
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  Speaker 3: all right, it's the same thing we talked about, y'all.
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  Speaker 3: Stay with the blue Bloods. There's there is a definition
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  Speaker 3: that that might be need to be hashed out for
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  Speaker 3: me and average offense, you gotta scored thirty points a game?
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  Speaker 2: What average?
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  Speaker 3: You gotta scored thirty point average? That's an average offensive.
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  Speaker 1: That's that's a lot of points.
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  Speaker 4: That's a lot of points that win you about nine
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  Speaker 4: ten games.
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  Speaker 3: But you call that average, man, Yeah, call them thirty
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  Speaker 3: points average. You are turning your nose up at thirty points.
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  Speaker 3: How many points did Tennessee average when in Haipel's first
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  Speaker 3: year with he Hooker, it's gotta be close to forty.
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  Speaker 2: We average forty exactly. That was not average. Our quarterback
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  Speaker 2: got drafted first overall.
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  Speaker 3: So if forty is elite, thirty four, thirty three, thirty two,
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  Speaker 3: comel on man, eighteen.
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  Speaker 2: I give you eighteen. I give you eighteen on no
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  Speaker 2: freaking points.
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  Speaker 3: Now, the defense got a whole teams to fifteen and
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  Speaker 3: seventeen points a game, Get off of it. The whole
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  Speaker 3: league is offensive. Rig We can't hit you, we can't
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  Speaker 3: cut you. The quarterback, if you roll on his legs,
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  Speaker 3: fifteen yard penalty. If you hit him high, it's fifteen
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  Speaker 3: yard penalty. If you push him our bounds up, it's
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  Speaker 3: if it's pinky toe, it's on the white and you
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  Speaker 3: just chuckle our bounds it's fifty yards and you might
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  Speaker 3: get ejected.
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  Speaker 2: I could get acted.
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  Speaker 3: I would have not played an entire year at Kentucky
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  Speaker 3: with these current rules.
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  Speaker 2: I would have been either concussed or ejected. The league,
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  Speaker 2: Now were made for you about planning points? Is asking
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  Speaker 2: too much from an office? Did you have change it?
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  Speaker 3: Rules were made for you, man, Rules were made for you.
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  Speaker 3: You ain't tom brady tuk rule. The rule for not
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  Speaker 3: the quarterback was tom Brady you not being able to
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  Speaker 3: hit people with your head. Leave what your head was
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  Speaker 3: for you?
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  Speaker 2: All right?
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  Speaker 3: I change it.
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  Speaker 2: I've change it. I'll change it. Let's low twenty eight
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  Speaker 2: point nine points? The game is average? Is that bad?
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  Speaker 2: I said thirty? Is it the three that makes it
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  Speaker 2: a god? That's a twenty eight? Twenty eight point nine
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  Speaker 2: to five? How is that.
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  Speaker 3: No, No, that's a touchdown a quarter, which shouldn't happen,
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  Speaker 3: and from a defensive guy, from a defensive guy.
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  Speaker 2: So you you averaging giving up a touchdown per quarter.
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  Speaker 3: I've been hey, all right, Matt, I know we we
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  Speaker 3: exclude you from this conversation. Man, would you be comfortable
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  Speaker 3: with me saying eighteen to twenty one points?
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  Speaker 4: I think eighteen to twenty one points would be a
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  Speaker 4: I wouldn't say it's a great offense. I would put
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  Speaker 4: that as round average average. And I want to say
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  Speaker 4: this because look, I'm as a little fan. For the
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  Speaker 4: last two years under Jeff Brown, the last two seasons,
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  Speaker 4: they averaged twenty almost twenty four points a game, and
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  Speaker 4: Tyler Schuck was basically their entire offense last season. This
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  Speaker 4: season they did that with Miller Moss probably one of
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  Speaker 4: the more average looking offenses. Isaac Brown had a horrible season.
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  Speaker 4: The offensive line had a horrible season. Like if you
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  Speaker 4: if you're if you watched any of their games this
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  Speaker 4: past season, you would say that is a very average offense.
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  Speaker 4: And they're averaging twenty one to twenty four.
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  Speaker 2: All right, we're looking at I'm looking at the stats.
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  Speaker 2: Will We're gonna take a break.
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  Speaker 5: Man.
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  Speaker 3: We're gonna reset because I want you to get your
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  Speaker 3: stats together. Man from a defensive guy thinking like thirty
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  Speaker 3: points is average, No wonder who we all only won
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  Speaker 3: one game. We'll be back after this. This is just
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  Speaker 3: a Catz radio. We'll be back after this break. I
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  Speaker 3: can begin to knowing that I know it's grew and strong.
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  Speaker 2: Touching half.
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  Speaker 3: four fourteen fifty. Were having lively just ussion about why
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  Speaker 3: the National people has our Kentucky, our beloved Kentucky has
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  Speaker 3: ranked sixteenth in the SEC and uh, why Van House
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  Speaker 3: thinks that the offense should score thirty plus points just
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  Speaker 3: in general. But then what if we took a break,
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  Speaker 3: you had got a chance to break down some numbers.
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  Speaker 3: You still you're standing on your island. I'm standing even strong.
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  Speaker 3: I'm looking at sec scoring offense. Last year, ten of
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  Speaker 3: the sixteen team scored twenty nine or more points, nine
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  Speaker 3: and a half a more point ten, ten. So if
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  Speaker 3: we have if you want to get in a top
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  Speaker 3: ten of the conference, your defense gotta be a juggernaut.
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  Speaker 5: They they gotta be that that that old school was
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  Speaker 5: that eighty five Bears defense, that two thousand and one
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  Speaker 5: Ravens defense, that that that that Buccaneers.
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  Speaker 3: Deep like you gotta be that Miami the University of
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  Speaker 3: Miami defense back in the day.
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  Speaker 2: If you can't score, acting we at And this is
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  Speaker 2: the way I got wrong. I'm wrong, y'all. I'm I
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  Speaker 2: When I'm wrong.
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  Speaker 3: I would have I would have bet the house, my
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  Speaker 3: marriage license, my kids, my everything that we didn't average
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  Speaker 3: over twenty points a game.
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  Speaker 2: And I would have and I would have been homeless
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  Speaker 2: on on.
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  Speaker 3: The on on the river on the river road of
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  Speaker 3: Louisiana going to LSU because we average twenty three points
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  Speaker 3: a game. Yeah, twenty three points a game ain't gonna
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  Speaker 3: cut it. We're talking about twenty four.
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  Speaker 2: One. The four points ain't gonna cut it. Man. If
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  Speaker 2: you know.
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  Speaker 3: You know right now with with the only thing that's
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  Speaker 3: hurting offense now is is the clock doesn't stop stop
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  Speaker 3: every time where y'all can get one hundred and fifty
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  Speaker 3: plays off every game because the freaking clock stops every
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  Speaker 3: time they around the bounce. That's the only thing that's
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  Speaker 3: hurting offense right now, namely another rule that DNC double
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  Speaker 3: ass passed that it's her offense and health defense. Besides that,
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  Speaker 3: y'all have all the carrots. And if you saying, Anthony,
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  Speaker 3: if you saying that will Stein can't get this offense
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: up to about twenty nine points a game, I'm gonna
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: put this out.
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: This is hot take. If will Stein this year.
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: Can't get this offense to twenty eight and a half
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: more points a game.
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: That's a fell season. I ain't I'm not mad at that.
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: I'm not mad at that.
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: As an offensive guru, he should he should feel that way.
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: He should feel that way. If you can't get a
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: touchdown every quarter, if you can't find some way to
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: get a touchdown every quarter, and your offense of Guru,
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: I agree with you.
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: Why you and Matt format you know that?
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: Know that mean where where they got the red and
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: the blue flag? And they and they both hold up?
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: Why do you form that coalition with Matt over my point?
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: Then when I said twenty eight and a half, now
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: you're like, oh, yes, that's.
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, right, I can roll with that because that
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: might that might be your goal.
• 20:11
  Speaker 4: But to consistently put up thirty plus points a game,
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: that would like, that's a top ten offense in the country,
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: and you have to stop other squeeze from scoring that
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: many points. So to be successful, you probably need a
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: top fifteen defense in the country. So I mean, like, yeah,
• 20:24
  Speaker 4: that should be your goal. If you're Will Stein, I'm
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: not expecting him to go out there and watch Kentucky
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: play against Georgia or Alabama or Tennessee and be like, well,
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: we're gonna expect at least thirty five out of these
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: guys today.
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: Well that's why I rolled with the average. We should
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: roll up sixty two on Louisville. We should roll up
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: about seventy.
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: Something, sixty two, sixty, Hey, we.
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: Should roll up Anthony. When y'all face Louis for the
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: first time and had Ray I'm going to post y'all,
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: y'all wrapped up on the board.
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: It was fifty or sixty.
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: You gotta try to get points back from the last
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: two seasons. That what we're doing.
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: No, no, Van Van here, here's the thing that you
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: that you're not what you said. But you don't realize
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: you just said. We already said one of the greatest
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: offensive minds in the country, and you're talking about if
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: he can't get twenty eight. I gave you credit for
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: that because he's the greatest offensive mind in the country.
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: My point is.
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: Everybody can't just wake up and get you now right.
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: I don't know what ran they gonna do with our
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: Brian Hartline, who knows. But my point is the comment
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: you made that you called me out to act like
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: I'm aligning with Matt over there. Point was you we
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: are talking about one.
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: Line so bad?
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: Was lining with me so bad?
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: I mean, like I say, you a neat guy.
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: I'm taking over here for no reason. I'm just.
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: You a neat guy.
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: But man, we're talking about the greatest So basically, put
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: like this, a twenty would anybody get excited about a
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: twenty five point game from Mike Kobe Durant, whoa Mike
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: scored twenty five?
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: No, Mike gonna wake up and score twenty five.
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: I mean all you want to do teams even to
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: beat them, teams like, look, we'll give Mike forty, but
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: we gotta keep everybody else down. So when you saying, well,
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: this team, I'm with you. This team should score twenty
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: eight or thirty points. If willis, he should be able
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: to score. He should be able to manufacture a touchdown
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: every quarter, every fifteen minutes of play. He should be
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: able to get.
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: Us a touchdown.
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: Now not No, I agree with that, But you're saying
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: across the country, there's only several. You got Lane Kiffin,
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: you got, you got Stein. Uh, I don't know. Like
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: I said, Ryan Day, I mean Ohio State. Now they
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: are they're a wide receiver. You so you can't keep
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: them out of the quation. The plus, they ain't paying
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: none but suckers every week. But I don't know, so
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: her I'm again, I'm a numbers guy. I'm just looking
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: at the history. Right, the top team in NCAA, the
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: top three team to the three teams averages over forty points. Again,
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: the top two to three teams, the top five teams.
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: In the country.
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: Those are what I would call you're elite, maybe the
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: top ten. I'll give you a top team in the
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: history of the last few years of college football. Thirty
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: points has been get you fiftieth ranked offense in the
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: in the nation. I don't think we hired Will Stein
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: to come here and not be one of the top
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: fifty offenses in the nation. You don't hire one of
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: the best offensive minds. You don't go from being you
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: don't fire your best coaching school history. Who's offense was
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: probably bottom I would say eightieth or that best, probably
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: maybe seventy fifth at best, right at best, the best
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: year Lim Cohen with Will Levis, they probably was. I
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: can go back, what was that twenty twenty one, twenty
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: twenty one.
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: I'll find it, maybe sixty.
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: I think we stayed about sixty ish sixties offense, around
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: ninety sixty. It's like Anthony when we talked about yesterday
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: on this show, right about expectation of records, actually a
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: thirty six that year and we are as thirty two
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: points a game.
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: If that's a.
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: None double it now, Liam Cohen avers thirty two points
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: a game. We're gonna really be satisfied with as you
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: and you and the the anti christ k Kentucky guy
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: or what that, Matt who don't like Kentucky football? Why
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: you jumped on your side after with that twenty point
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: If you can't average well the best offense of Mark
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: stups with thirty two points a game, you are selling
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: yourself short.
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: Man.
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: Man, you got I don't know, I don't know what
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: you are. You woke up on the wrong side. What's
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: in your coffee?
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: You got that?
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: Uh what they called mushroom. The mushroom coffee stuff is
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: supposed to help your body, help your livery levels and
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: things like that. What is it called Together Rise is
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: the name the brand has been circulating. But that mushroom
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: coffee stuff is supposed to get you right. But you see,
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: if you keep you you continue to point out anomalies
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: like the best years of this, the best years of that,
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: you call that, the you called that, you called that
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: the I guess the baseline like that's you know, homeo stasis,
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: like that's where that's where we live at. No, you're
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: picking out the best years and saying, well, if we
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: did this, then we should be able to do. That's
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: that's not true.
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: Now, mind you.
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: I do realize you comparing the offensive production of Will Stein, Yeah,
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: and Will Stern and Joe Sloan, those guys should put
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: up thirty at some point. That's not averaging in the
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: history of Kentucky football if you look back far enough,
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: that's not every points is not an average. That's all
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: I'm asking. Look, when is the last time we up
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: brought in an offensive coordinator, no, a head coach that's
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: offensive oriented, that that has the the cache that Will has.
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: How MoMA didn't even have it if you think about it, right,
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: How Maman didn't even have this this resume. You are
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: the best offensive mine to we ever coach at Kentucky
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: at least. Look, I don't know Kentucky since ninety two,
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: so don't rip me anew it. If that's something happened
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: in seventy seven with coach Clayborners, I don't know. But
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: in the nineties, since the nineties, this is the best
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: offensive mine we have ever had as a head coach resume.
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: Wise, Okay, then let me ask you both this question.
• 27:25
  Speaker 4: I understand what like, that's what you want to average,
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: and that's where you want to be and under Gaalik
• 27:29
  Speaker 4: will Stein, who's done it at the highest level, who's
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: done it in the playoff and you've seen him have
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: success with quarterbacks. With the offense, he's has his hands
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: all over it. Is there a little bit of you
• 27:39
  Speaker 4: that maybe would backtrack that a little bit because of
• 27:43
  Speaker 4: the fact that he's not calling his own plays, that
• 27:45
  Speaker 4: he has an offensive coordinator running the offense this season
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: and it's not him, Like, yes, he will have his
• 27:50
  Speaker 4: hands on it, because he's an offensive mind of guy,
• 27:52
  Speaker 4: but he's technically not the play caller.
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: I don't think. I don't now that is.
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: He brings up an interesting point, and I was gonna say, no,
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: I don't think it'd be. I think it's the collaboration
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: because if if the offensive coordinator and the head coach
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: are standing next to each other the same way you
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: gave we as Big Bue Nation, you can't give Mark
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: Steus's credit for Steamy and our offensive coordinators. Now, Joe,
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: now you got you got will And I do know this,
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: and Van and I have talked about this on our
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: on our podcast and the locker, Uh Sunny Dykes, Mike Leach,
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: all these people were underneath.
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: How Mummy?
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: So everybody said, hey, money, mummy is the only one
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: of Tony Franklin. How mummy is the only one out
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: of that group who was the head coach. And I
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: believe that Mike Leach was an engineer of the air
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: raid offense, but how mommy got all the credit for it.
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: But how mummy was the only one who never prospered
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: from the air raid. Like I said, I'm ana named
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: Sunny Dikes, Mike Leach, Tony Franklin. Uh, what's what's happening?
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: I mean, he didn't get to the higher level like
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: everybody else, but he was. He was a head coach
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: in his twenties.
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: I believe.
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: I've said this many times on in many different scenarios,
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: of many different platforms. I think the greatest injustice a
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: coordinator can do when they become head coach is not
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: call plays on Saturdays for at least the first couple
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: of years. The only reason you're in this spot is
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: because you were a great play caller, But the only
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: reason you are the head coach at your next destination
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: is because you were an unbelievable play call So now,
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: why would I take away my strength and give it
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: to somebody else whom doesn't see the game like you.
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: I don't care how good Joe Slanza is a really
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: good offensive mine, but it is a skill set that's undervaluable.
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: Ability to look at your play card, call a play
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: and while the play is going on, you don't see
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: the result. You're looking at your next play right now,
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: You're not thinking about, Okay, what has on? Okay? All
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: those three players. I want to run that. That's a
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: skill set that's underrated. And if will Stein gives that up,
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: which I don't think he will, I think he's gonna
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: call players on Saturday. I think Joe Sloan's gonna be
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: the coordinator who creates the organization and get everything done
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: Monday through Friday. But I hope, I hope will Stein
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: calls players on Saturday. If he doesn't, this is a
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: bad comparison. But the first thing it comes to mind
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: for me in UK history is Joker Phillips was a
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: really good offen the coordinator, and when he became the
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: head coach, he gave up that that that responsibility, and
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: that offense never got to where it was when he
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: was calling plays. I I know, well, will Stein might
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: listen to this show. If William stein Or is mom
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: us listen to this show, inform him that please call
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: players on Saturday, because that is his strong suit.
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: In two years, then he can give it up to
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: Joe Sloan if he wants to.
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: I thought he already gave it up. I thought he
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: already said he wasn't thought I could.
• 31:17
  Speaker 4: I could be wrong, but I thought he came out
• 31:18
  Speaker 4: and said that he's just gonna be doing the head
• 31:20
  Speaker 4: coach duties.
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: I think that's that's look the way we got the
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: guy Bateman is this. Guess what kind of coach Mike
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: Elko is. He's a defensive coordinator, He's a defensive mind.
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: Guess who took over the defensive player calling that season?
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: Mike Elko because that's his strong suit.
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: I just don't.
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: With the amount of support you get from an amount
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: of coach you can hire, go on, man, let's let's
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: let's hand the responsibilities and v y'all responsibility everybody else
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: so so you can do your you're the thing, your
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: best at man.
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: I do want to point out for you go to break.
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: Randy Sanders did bring Tennessee a national championship with Team
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: Martin at quarterback and that championship, so he didn't coaches
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: Peyton Mannig as well. But and we will continue more
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: of this conversation when we come back. You're listen Just
• 32:22
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• 32:46
  Speaker 3: White and Van House of the Locker on Wednesday nights,
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: filling in for Michael Bennett, who's out taking care of business.
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: We are gonna try to do the best we can
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: to fill some very big shoes. And we got Matt
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: So also chiming in heavy soft and he's a littlevil fan,
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: So cut him some slack and uh, we're gonna, you know,
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: let him join the conversation. If you like to join
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: the conversation, calls five zero two three eight four fourteen fifty,
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: or you can text us at five zero two four
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: to one four fourteen fifty. Ben Howes, we did get
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: a text, well, we got text yesterday. I didn't know
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: how to work this machine. Matt then groom me very
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: well on how to read the machine.
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: Paul.
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: But geez John tweeted in. He said, man, let's get
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: he want to get to the football. He's ready, he said,
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: everything's coming up. You know, we got new coaches, new
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: athletic director. He said seven wins for football. So there's
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: people who have us ranked six sixteenth in the SEC.
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: Will seven wins, seven wins, you you definitely couldn't be
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: sixteenth and s right, you definitely can. If you went seven,
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: of course you're going to be little. Of course that's
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: gonna happen. So that means you got three conference. That
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: means you four and five in conference. So you four
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: and five conference. Definitely in the middle, you're probably eight nine,
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: eight nine, ten, probably okay, which is not That's where
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: we've lived. Yeah, that's not that you see, Hey, a
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: first year, if we win seven, Look if if will
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: Stein goes seven wins, I'm gonna be happy with that.
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: With non conference games for the first time in school history.
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: That means you gotta win four the most we we really.
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: Win for how many times we win four in the history,
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: six times, six something like that, seven times? It ain't many.
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: So he wins four games in conference and I'm looking
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: at the schedule, I'm four gonna be now. I would
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: say this as some of the fans that followed me
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: in on Twitter talking about we're gonna be Alabama, and
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: we Alabama.
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: September twelfth, at two thirty pm.
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: Oh, I guess two thirty my time, three thirty pm
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: Eastern Standard time. I will proclaim we will win five
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: conference games. You don't get to you don't get to Cashe,
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: you don't get to just move the gold post.
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: I'm Austin man. You can't just move the gold post
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: when you feel like, hey, I've been married twenty six years.
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: Yesterday, Van Houses, not today, Van House, so September eleventh,
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: Van Houses not September twelfth, Van House. If you pull
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: off this victory, if we pull out an Alabama victor, dude,
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: it's there's no reason why we can't be South Carolina.
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: There be Vanderbilt, Florida, Missouri. Like, come on, if we
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: beat Alabama at home, I can see us winning for
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: a five conference game. Van House. I want people to
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: be realistic. I want us to be realistic. And that's
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: what this is what we came for. We we try
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: to come and bring realisticity. But I like that if
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: we want to be completely honest. So, and it's seven
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: wins to me, it's fine, that's four wins, man. I'm
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: gonna break something down to you. Under Bear Bryant, we
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: have four wins, two three, times under Blank Collier, we
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: have four wins or more two times Bradshaw we had
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: in conference in conference, but the conference has changed, you know.
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: I mean back in the sixties and fifty it wasn't
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: the same people. Under Bradshaw, we have four wins one time.
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: Now we're getting to where everybody's familiarity with soy Kursey.
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: We have four wins two times, four wins season, six
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: wins season Clayborn.
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: Now, now, now man, not a ah your boy, y'all? Okay?
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: Yes, ninety three four under under Bill carry year Carrier.
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: Now mind you how mommy won four and four twice
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: in a four year span. Everybody else had like seven
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: eight years or better. Now mind you, yours truly was
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: part of those those five hundred seasons in SEC rich
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: Brooks had, Now the goat rich Brooks dude had one
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: had one four hundred or.
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: Five hundred four win season.
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: Now, joker, come on, come on, come on, come on,
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: let's let's let's get to now Stoops one, two, three, four, five,
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: four or more five win seasons in.
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: His tenurear career here eleven you want to count it?
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: So when so your expectation is we add another SEC game.
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: So for us to get seven wins, man, we gotta
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: do something that only the last coach did it frequently.
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: Nobody else has done it. Everybody else might get one
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: or two of them.
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: Boys in Now, now you got me confused.
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: You just said that we're gonna beat Alabama because you know,
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: if you're gonna ask.
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: Anybody will know how to be Alabama.
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: Now you're gonna buy track and say, well, man, you
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: know we are gonna be hard. Well if you be Alabama. Man,
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: hold on, I also told you how mommy went five
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: hundred to sec twice my junior year and my senior year. Now,
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: hold on, hold on, hold on, man, listen, listen, please listen.
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: You do realize my senior year, Craig East and Tim
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: Couch was not there.
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: Mm hmm. Go ahead, continue then, my friend.
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: So now remember when you was on offense, then you
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: came to defense. Now you're backpelling. Now you've got those
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: tempos all and you in that good stance here, Jeff,
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: the hips.
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: It's like being a knee you backpelling.
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: Now, all I'm saying is this, if we beat Alabama
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: and the same Alabama team that just went to the
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: playoffs a year before, Yes, they lost a quarterback. Yes,
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: but it's Alabama. If we beat Alabama problems as well.
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: If we beat Alabama week two, are you are you
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: telling me that that goal post won't come down?
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: That'll be the.
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: First time jay back gets a goal post in his
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: front yard. If we know where he lives, because he
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: might be he might have been an apartment.
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: He might be in a Marriott downtown.
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: Well, we know you may not have a spot yet,
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: right if we need them, you tell me the excitement
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: on you clid and rolls is not gonna be at
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: a at a at a level that everybody's not gonna
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: be saying we're gonna win five games in conference. Oh yes,
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: absolutely will be if you be out at a couch
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: taken burn.
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: I got a couch snaking burn in my garage right now.
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: If we be Alabama week two, Anthony, the expectation is
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: fire winning the conference. That's expectation. I'm not saying it's
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: gonna Anthony, like the bird's gonna be at that if
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: we beat out a babble watch stop there, hey, in
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: your and your thing, I'm trying to pull up your
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: thing that you sent me yesterday, that you sent to
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: everybody now everybody all all the tizzy. You should have
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: just dude, you know, you could probably DM me this stuff.
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: So everybody's gonna get all all all messed up over this.
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: The lockers sent it to you. Alabama's ranked fifth in
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: the conference.
• 41:05
  Speaker 3: In that ranking, if you be a top five team
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: in the conference week two, the only other teams that
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: above them that we play is texting and them and lash.
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: Everybody else we play is below them. Accord to this guy,
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: we don't even know it's a guy. Accord to this
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: individual's sec country. We don't know if it's a bout
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: or not a part of this individual, this robot. All
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: the teams after Alabama, the majority of those teams are
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: ranked under them. If we beat Alabama, we jumped them.
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: The next Pallar ratings. The next week, we will be
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: top five.
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: And you tell me that.
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: Now, hey man, in school history, you only win three
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: to four games in conference.
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: So settle down. Settle down. People say, we don't know, you're.
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: Gonna be loud and proud. We're gonna win five dames
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: in conference, That's all I'm saying. I'm sure some people
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: gonna say we've been texting. In the next week, and
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: we be at Oh, we're gonna be texting at them
• 42:06
  Speaker 3: the next week. We should So why does LSU get
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: a chance to sit a book? They got a brand
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: new head coach. Why do they get the opportunity to
• 42:15
  Speaker 3: sit on high and look down low in your stance?
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: Now I understand you from baton rouge or whatever, but
• 42:22
  Speaker 3: they got what we got ls U?
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: Uh fourth? They got fourth?
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, why why do they get They got a new
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: head coach too. Florida has it well, Florida where they
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: got Florida Ring. That's an interesting point. They have Florida
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: Ring Tiff right in the middle of the pack. So
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: old Miss got a new coach, Florida got a new coach. Now,
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: mind you, Old Miss was in the playoffs as well
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: last year. You know you can give them that same
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: type of credit. But I don't know. You can't keep
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: moving the gold post man, even it's a guy's mentality.
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: So so acton are you saying we're gonna win game
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: this year? Because like you, I'm here.
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: I'm here, Matt, we gotta beat Alabama first. Here nine.
• 43:09
  Speaker 4: Look, I'm at a point where if I'm bringing in
• 43:12
  Speaker 4: a brand new head coach, you have a lot of
• 43:14
  Speaker 4: excitement behind the season. I feel like the whole Indiana
• 43:19
  Speaker 4: football experiment that's happened in the last two years with
• 43:21
  Speaker 4: Kurt Signetti has almost like rotted the brains of sports fans,
• 43:25
  Speaker 4: and every team is like, Okay, we got a new
• 43:27
  Speaker 4: head coach. We can do that, we can do that,
• 43:29
  Speaker 4: we can become a national champion in two seasons. And
• 43:32
  Speaker 4: I feel like a lot of us have to understand
• 43:34
  Speaker 4: that football is such a different sport and in ninety
• 43:37
  Speaker 4: nine percent of situations it takes more time for guys
• 43:40
  Speaker 4: to develop and get their system in play, especially in
• 43:42
  Speaker 4: a situation where Will Stein's coming to Kentucky, which you
• 43:45
  Speaker 4: guys have stated that historically hasn't been, you know, the
• 43:48
  Speaker 4: greatest of all program ever. You know, they've had good
• 43:51
  Speaker 4: seasons here and there. I think Will Stein's a great
• 43:53
  Speaker 4: head coach. But I am at the point where if
• 43:55
  Speaker 4: they did beat Alabama in that second game of the season,
• 43:57
  Speaker 4: it is the same game season, right, It's not yep, Okay,
• 44:00
  Speaker 4: if they.
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: Won that game, then yes, you are on this.
• 44:03
  Speaker 4: You are on the stature where I think you are
• 44:05
  Speaker 4: allowed to move that goalpost and say, now my expectations
• 44:09
  Speaker 4: are higher, but this is the same thing. This is
• 44:11
  Speaker 4: his first season in this regime as a head coach
• 44:15
  Speaker 4: in which he's not calling the plays, which, like Ban
• 44:17
  Speaker 4: mentioned earlier, that's what got him here was calling the plays, right, So,
• 44:20
  Speaker 4: like you're gonna see a situation where one, is he
• 44:24
  Speaker 4: gonna have his hands all over the offense and maybe
• 44:26
  Speaker 4: the AUFO defensive coordinator is gonna have less responsibilit than
• 44:28
  Speaker 4: me think, or is it two, he's taken over the
• 44:31
  Speaker 4: recruiting stuff. He's gonna be managing the team, and he's
• 44:33
  Speaker 4: gonna have almost no say in the offense. Like we
• 44:35
  Speaker 4: don't know what's gonna happen yet. So I'm interested to
• 44:38
  Speaker 4: see how the players develop and how his system kind
• 44:40
  Speaker 4: of evolves now that he has the helm of the
• 44:43
  Speaker 4: whole team. I would say for them right now in
• 44:48
  Speaker 4: my in my unbiased opinion, my full expectation of this
• 44:52
  Speaker 4: team is about four wins in conference. That would be
• 44:55
  Speaker 4: like my best possible scenario if they were to beat Alabama.
• 44:58
  Speaker 4: As a Luwell fan, I would genuinely say it like this,
• 45:01
  Speaker 4: this guy is the limit for this football team. You
• 45:03
  Speaker 4: know you're gonna rally behind that whole new coach fan
• 45:06
  Speaker 4: base is going to be behind them, I'd be excited
• 45:08
  Speaker 4: to see what they do. But I think it's okay
• 45:10
  Speaker 4: to move the goalpost ever game two if they want that.
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: I believe, And we got a head to a break
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: here in a second, but I believe if we beat Alabama,
• 45:21
  Speaker 3: I do think it sets an expectation because I think
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: with Will Stein, with Joe Sloan, those guys are going
• 45:28
  Speaker 3: to do is gonna change trajectory of the program and
• 45:33
  Speaker 3: of the season. But as Van Hiele stated, and as
• 45:36
  Speaker 3: Matt stated, with Will being a head coach and I'm
• 45:39
  Speaker 3: not a coordinator, you got to have your paws and
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: everything else. And Mark stut show there's a defensive guy
• 45:43
  Speaker 3: where you got your paws in the offense. Sometimes it's
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: time as that we don't know, but what I do know.
• 45:47
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• 45:58
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• 46:05
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• 46:12
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• 46:21
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• 46:46
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• 46:48
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• 46:53
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• 46:56
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• 47:00
  Speaker 3: this this football season. Everybody's getting giddy, everybody's.
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: The optimism is high right now.
• 47:07
  Speaker 3: Man. I don't know if there's a way to really
• 47:09
  Speaker 3: even bring it down with will Stein has I do
• 47:13
  Speaker 3: think a lot something.
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: A lot of people probably overlook when you're.
• 47:16
  Speaker 3: Talking about will Stein coming into this new position and
• 47:22
  Speaker 3: you and I played under Bill Curry. I played under
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: haw Mommy. Bill Curry was set up high and he
• 47:30
  Speaker 3: doesn't look down on anybody. But he let us coordinate,
• 47:32
  Speaker 3: just coordinate. He had nothing to do with it. He
• 47:35
  Speaker 3: lost his job because he had no hands on either
• 47:39
  Speaker 3: of the subject. But then you had how Money who
• 47:41
  Speaker 3: had nothing to do with the defense and all to
• 47:44
  Speaker 3: do with the offense, and it didn't work out. So
• 47:47
  Speaker 3: I'm wondering if you know will Stein's balance of trying
• 47:52
  Speaker 3: to be ahead coach and not you know, have a
• 47:56
  Speaker 3: whole lot of input on the offense as opposed to,
• 48:01
  Speaker 3: you know, making sure the defense run. Maybe he likes
• 48:04
  Speaker 3: Bateman enough, but I'm not gonna point out you slid
• 48:08
  Speaker 3: it under the rug. There's a lot of people don't
• 48:10
  Speaker 3: look on the rug. You slid it under rug. I'm
• 48:13
  Speaker 3: not gonna say what having a big the Bateman's uh
• 48:17
  Speaker 3: play calling duties at Texas A and M as you
• 48:21
  Speaker 3: so uneloquently stated for a fan.
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: But there may be that out.
• 48:27
  Speaker 3: I mean, like I said, have money had an offense
• 48:29
  Speaker 3: that can score will now Mike Majors had a defense
• 48:32
  Speaker 3: that can score it? Whill that would let people score
• 48:34
  Speaker 3: it will. So I just you know, there is that
• 48:39
  Speaker 3: in the back of my mind. As much as I
• 48:40
  Speaker 3: love what will william Stein brings to the table and
• 48:44
  Speaker 3: Joe Sloan and those guys, there's still another side of
• 48:47
  Speaker 3: the ball, uh that you know. I don't know if
• 48:51
  Speaker 3: Bateman itself is he self served? Is he you know,
• 48:55
  Speaker 3: just let it go? Is he you know, just turned
• 48:57
  Speaker 3: them a plug and play. I would say this if
• 49:04
  Speaker 3: I'm a head coach. That's what I'm doing. That's look,
• 49:07
  Speaker 3: that's the same thing. Remember when when Stoops took over
• 49:11
  Speaker 3: to play calling when he was here, he could go
• 49:15
  Speaker 3: to play calling too, like I I understand the well
• 49:24
  Speaker 3: and especially now with nil, that's probably more responsibilities on
• 49:28
  Speaker 3: the head coach, so to speak.
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: That's why we hire a GM.
• 49:31
  Speaker 3: That's why we hire that next level of staffing between
• 49:35
  Speaker 3: the a D and the head coach.
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: Let those guys handle that.
• 49:39
  Speaker 3: It is no way, in my opinion, any head coach
• 49:45
  Speaker 3: can be successful if they're coming from being a coordinator
• 49:49
  Speaker 3: that they don't have those hands, their hands and that
• 49:53
  Speaker 3: side of of the equation on that team because you
• 49:58
  Speaker 3: know it best. You are, in essence a guru of
• 50:02
  Speaker 3: the offensive side of the ball. Jeff Brom calls his plays.
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: It just came name.
• 50:11
  Speaker 3: Just Tennessee coach calls his plays. Lang Kisson calls Pipel
• 50:17
  Speaker 3: called his plays. Lincoln Riley calls his plays like you
• 50:22
  Speaker 3: know what happened at Oklahoma when he said, not my ball,
• 50:26
  Speaker 3: I'm getting old when he went throw a hoomer from Clemson.
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: Not call defensive players like.
• 50:34
  Speaker 3: There's look, as we talked about points per per game, right,
• 50:38
  Speaker 3: there's only a handful of teams that are elite. There's
• 50:42
  Speaker 3: only truly a handful of elite offenses and defensive play
• 50:46
  Speaker 3: college and if you get elevated to that spot, it's
• 50:50
  Speaker 3: no way I'm giving up some that I'm one of
• 50:52
  Speaker 3: the best at Liam Cohen calls his plays in the
• 50:57
  Speaker 3: NFL got the Jaguars Roader, that's what you can you look,
• 51:04
  Speaker 3: Here's here's why I say it's even more empty to
• 51:08
  Speaker 3: be on that level because I was offered I had
• 51:12
  Speaker 3: an opportunity to be a decent coordinator, highscho I'm like, dude,
• 51:14
  Speaker 3: my that ain't my ego. It takes an ego to
• 51:18
  Speaker 3: be on that level. It takes a extraordinary ego to.
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: Be a head coach.
• 51:24
  Speaker 3: Now you're telling me, and be honest, if I'm off
• 51:27
  Speaker 3: off from the coordinator, defrom the coordinator, and I become
• 51:30
  Speaker 3: a head coach and I hire deferment the coordinator, you
• 51:33
  Speaker 3: think I'm gonna truly truly eliminate myself from that's how
• 51:40
  Speaker 3: about where I know what I'm doing and you running
• 51:42
  Speaker 3: my defense?
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: You have to defense right because you run.
• 51:50
  Speaker 3: Now you're telling me I'm gonna totally eliminate myself from
• 51:53
  Speaker 3: even going I'm gonna be into that.
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: Now the defense coordinator be looking over a show like,
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: oh am I doing? Am I doing enough?
• 52:00
  Speaker 3: Because you know, my my boss is the guru at
• 52:04
  Speaker 3: this so why even why even put that on your
• 52:09
  Speaker 3: If the coordinator or coordinate at all, you handle that
• 52:12
  Speaker 3: until you realize, Okay, man, it's a little too much
• 52:14
  Speaker 3: for me. If it gets too much for you, then
• 52:18
  Speaker 3: I'll understand a little bit. But if it gets too
• 52:20
  Speaker 3: much for you, you might not be cut off your
• 52:22
  Speaker 3: head coach. Yeah, but I go with you. I agree
• 52:26
  Speaker 3: with you. I do think you got a groom. You
• 52:27
  Speaker 3: gotta groom the people. Uh, it's just like I, like
• 52:30
  Speaker 3: I said, I love Lane Keiffin's office of college. You
• 52:33
  Speaker 3: gotta think man, Lane went up against Sabing. It's a
• 52:37
  Speaker 3: coordinator like man, you fake you you nose and those
• 52:40
  Speaker 3: with the head coach like like what said? So like
• 52:44
  Speaker 3: you said, there's no damn way, there's no way that
• 52:47
  Speaker 3: Lane is gonna let his coordinate it now, which is
• 52:51
  Speaker 3: funny if you nose, or those with Nick Saban, who's
• 52:54
  Speaker 3: one of the greatest coaches ever, if not the greatest,
• 52:59
  Speaker 3: and you just a young, snotty nose coordinator, which he's
• 53:02
  Speaker 3: been this whole time. Now you hear, coach, how how
• 53:05
  Speaker 3: is he gonna accept somebody? And I'm looking every time
• 53:09
  Speaker 3: I say something about Will Stein, I say Lane Kiffing. Now,
• 53:14
  Speaker 3: Will and Lane have nothing in common, but they're great
• 53:16
  Speaker 3: off in some minds, aggressive and great like aggressive like
• 53:19
  Speaker 3: we're always applying pressure, Like you don't get a chance
• 53:22
  Speaker 3: on the third week, we're not on third and five.
• 53:25
  Speaker 3: Let's just you know, get three yards and punt the ball.
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: No, on third and five. Week and seven we might
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: get twelve, might go twelve.
• 53:34
  Speaker 3: So I so it's just kind of you know, I
• 53:37
  Speaker 3: think about you know, Lane going.
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: That was the one thing I thought about.
• 53:40
  Speaker 3: Man and Will has a young staff as considerable, you know,
• 53:44
  Speaker 3: one of our homeboys, and Wash Stewart, the defense line
• 53:47
  Speaker 3: coach only coach returned from last season, is aggressive dude.
• 53:51
  Speaker 3: And that dude's all right. He's fifty like, which is
• 53:53
  Speaker 3: not very old for coaching. But Man and Ward knows
• 53:57
  Speaker 3: wall like that. He's passionately he does ball. If your
• 54:01
  Speaker 3: d well d line, I don't I don't see a
• 54:04
  Speaker 3: reason for an offensive coach really get after it unless
• 54:07
  Speaker 3: you're not getting to the ball. If you're not getting
• 54:10
  Speaker 3: to the ball, if we rushing three or four against
• 54:13
  Speaker 3: five man fronts or against five offensive linemen, you really
• 54:18
  Speaker 3: not expected to get to the ball is the next
• 54:20
  Speaker 3: level that should be getting to the ball now.
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: So but if Stu.
• 54:28
  Speaker 3: Goes to William and says, hey man, look, hey man,
• 54:31
  Speaker 3: y'all gotta y'all gotta pump man. My guys are tired
• 54:34
  Speaker 3: or you know, you gotta you know what I mean,
• 54:36
  Speaker 3: Our guys tire. We need y'all to you know, don't
• 54:39
  Speaker 3: don't score quick. And I'm telling you what the air
• 54:41
  Speaker 3: Raid they used to tell, Hey man, we tired. Man,
• 54:44
  Speaker 3: don't score so quick. It's crazy. Yeah, look, I'm what
• 54:53
  Speaker 3: you're saying that I'm I'm gonna preface that a little bit.
• 54:57
  Speaker 3: Is as a defensive player who play on the team
• 55:01
  Speaker 3: that was offensively.
• 55:04
  Speaker 2: In that.
• 55:06
  Speaker 3: Okay, I'm gonna use that word because I'm gonna use
• 55:08
  Speaker 3: some worse offensively and that is more.
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: PC for the radio.
• 55:15
  Speaker 3: When they scored. I'm gonna say this. Le'm gonna start this.
• 55:20
  Speaker 3: When we played Louisville matt in nineteen ninety six, in
• 55:24
  Speaker 3: the first half, I think they all combined three first
• 55:28
  Speaker 3: downs by both teams.
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: It's an exciting football game.
• 55:35
  Speaker 3: So as a defense, even if we come around the field,
• 55:39
  Speaker 3: if you score quickly, just that scoring.
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: Exciteds at least for the next two three players.
• 55:45
  Speaker 3: So I'm not sure if I want y'all to not
• 55:47
  Speaker 3: try to score, but if y'all have a chance of.
• 55:50
  Speaker 2: Milking the ball, milking a little bit, oh, I I
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: just hope.
• 55:58
  Speaker 3: Look, this is what I see with this season, and
• 56:00
  Speaker 3: this is why I trust Will Stein and Joe Sloan.
• 56:05
  Speaker 3: I don't think people understand how good of an offense
• 56:08
  Speaker 3: of mind Joe Sloan is. I think Joe Sloan got
• 56:10
  Speaker 3: a bad rapper l s U this last year because
• 56:13
  Speaker 3: they have to blame somebody. That guy got James Daniels
• 56:17
  Speaker 3: to win the Heisman Trophy and now he's a star
• 56:19
  Speaker 3: in the NFL. I trust them in their evaluation of Minschi.
• 56:29
  Speaker 3: If Minchi isn't on the level, let's just I'm even
• 56:34
  Speaker 3: prefer I'm not even bring it down a little tempered
• 56:36
  Speaker 3: down a little bit. If Minschi's going now on the
• 56:38
  Speaker 3: level of Devin Leary, I'm gonna start looking side eye
• 56:42
  Speaker 3: at the evaluation, because if you are a quarterback centric offense,
• 56:49
  Speaker 3: you put a lot on that quarterback shoulders. I'm not
• 56:52
  Speaker 3: asking him to have the cannon that Will will Levis
• 56:56
  Speaker 3: had or the intelligence of Andre Wills or whatever. I
• 57:01
  Speaker 3: just want him to to get this offense in and
• 57:05
  Speaker 3: out of a huddle and be efficient on offense. I
• 57:09
  Speaker 3: truly believe if they are effishent on offense with the
• 57:13
  Speaker 3: with the level of talent that we have at the
• 57:15
  Speaker 3: wide receiver room, if they could be fishing on offense
• 57:18
  Speaker 3: this year, I think the next few years is it's
• 57:21
  Speaker 3: gonna be awesome. I just want to see this quarterback
• 57:25
  Speaker 3: play against live ammunition and see how well he handles it.
• 57:32
  Speaker 3: If this guy is average or above average, I feel
• 57:37
  Speaker 3: really good about the next couple of seasons.
• 57:40
  Speaker 4: Man, you said something earlier that I like, I really
• 57:44
  Speaker 4: agree with, and you were talking about how to be
• 57:45
  Speaker 4: a coordinator. You have to have a level of ego too.
• 57:48
  Speaker 4: You you have to have a level of like I
• 57:50
  Speaker 4: guess ego is a strong word. You have the level
• 57:52
  Speaker 4: of respect to yourself to say that, like, look, this
• 57:55
  Speaker 4: is what put me in this situation.
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: I have a mind for this. I'm the guy for
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: the situation.
• 57:59
  Speaker 4: I've in defense my whole life, worked in offensive my
• 58:01
  Speaker 4: whole life, and we've seen that the best coaches in
• 58:04
  Speaker 4: collegeable history are some of the most egotistical dudes on
• 58:07
  Speaker 4: the planet. You know, like Lane Kiffin obviously one of them.
• 58:09
  Speaker 4: Like you might hate the guy, but the dude is
• 58:11
  Speaker 4: one of the greatest of all minds.
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  Speaker 2: We have.
• 58:13
  Speaker 4: Nick Saban is up there, Liam Cohen is up there.
• 58:16
  Speaker 4: You brought him up and he's doing the same thing
• 58:17
  Speaker 4: he's doing in college football in the NFL, which is
• 58:20
  Speaker 4: a whole other level.
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: Jeff Brohm another guy.
• 58:22
  Speaker 4: These are all guys who built their career, you know,
• 58:25
  Speaker 4: calling plays on one end, coaching on one end, and
• 58:27
  Speaker 4: then when they became a head coach, when you got
• 58:29
  Speaker 4: hired to their staff, you respected them in a sense
• 58:32
  Speaker 4: of like, I'm there's no way I'm calling the plays
• 58:34
  Speaker 4: on this team. There's no way. I'm like, I want
• 58:37
  Speaker 4: to work under him because I want to learn. I
• 58:38
  Speaker 4: want to be a part of the situation. But that
• 58:40
  Speaker 4: is his that's his baby right there. I can't touch that.
• 58:43
  Speaker 4: Do you think that maybe after this season we see
• 58:47
  Speaker 4: will Stein think, Okay, maybe I need to take the
• 58:51
  Speaker 4: reins again to kind of build that ego again, build
• 58:53
  Speaker 4: that respect instead of maybe just having the head coach responsibility,
• 58:57
  Speaker 4: so that I can maybe gain the respect other coaching
• 59:00
  Speaker 4: areas around at least other schools around the country.
• 59:04
  Speaker 3: I would say this, if will Stein has said that
• 59:09
  Speaker 3: he's not gonna call plays, that was an agreement for
• 59:12
  Speaker 3: Joe Sloan to get here.
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  Speaker 2: If he said that, I think so.
• 59:17
  Speaker 3: If he made that agreement, that means he might not
• 59:20
  Speaker 3: have gotten Joe Sloan if he didn't hedge on calling plays.
• 59:25
  Speaker 3: I just I respect Joe Sloan. I think he's a
• 59:33
  Speaker 3: really good coach. I just looking at the other side,
• 59:36
  Speaker 3: There's no way I'm giving that to somebody else, at
• 59:39
  Speaker 3: least not now. And if he does, you know, the
• 59:43
  Speaker 3: worst thing to do is when things don't go wrong,
• 59:47
  Speaker 3: you gotta start pointing fingers.
• 59:50
  Speaker 2: I mean, that's human nature.
• 59:52
  Speaker 3: And if I'm not calling the place and that offense
• 59:56
  Speaker 3: is not running like I know it can run, I gotta.
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: Hey, Joe Man, you have step aside.
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 3: Look, if if takes a win week three and we're
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 3: not all hitting on all cylinders, will Stein might have
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 3: to take over to play calling duties.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that that is an interesting concept.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 3: We're gonna talk a little bit more about that, but
• 1:00:16
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• 1:01:34
  Speaker 3: we're talking about, you know, will william Stein being played
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 3: calleder Joe Salon, who's gonna be the play caller? And
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 3: it was kind of just, I guess the philosophies of
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 3: how the coordinator's call, how the head coaches influenced the
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 3: game as far as if you're an offensive minded or
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 3: I guess even if you're a defensive coordinator, a former
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 3: defensive coordinator like Mark Stoops was one of our callers
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 3: or one of our textures said that Eddie Grant was
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 3: always saying next to Stoops when he called this place,
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 3: which you know, one of our favorite Edie Grant's probably
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 3: our favorite next to Liam, but Liam kept leaving and coming.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 3: Liam's second go around wasn't a sexy so I'm not
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 3: certain how much credence should give to that. But he
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 3: said the other different was it was odd him was
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 3: in the press box, so Stoops wasn't in his ear.
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  Speaker 2: I don't don't know if that plays any part for you.
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 3: I've said this since day one. Stoops is not making
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 3: offensive play cards. That's that's not all that rocks and rolls.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 3: Here's the deal with with the success of those coordinators.
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 3: I want people understand that Jimmy's and Joes It's simple
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 3: as that.
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  Speaker 2: If you look.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 3: At Eddie Grand Eddie Grant, to me is one of
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 3: the best offensive coordinators we've ever had because his adoptability,
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 3: his flexibility. He I won't you to understand when we
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 3: went to Lim Bowden's offensive quarterback as all as as
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 3: a quarterback of all team, that man in that one
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 3: year had three different offenses and those are on the fly.
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 3: He had Terry Wilson, he had Sawdy Smith. They didn't
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 3: had Lim Bolden. That limb Bolden offense. If you really
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 3: look at it, and y'all know, I break down all
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 3: the games in depth. Is that the evolution of that
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 3: offense from the first game he plays the last was
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 3: all all his world.
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 2: How he just.
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 3: Kept integrating on plays and and changing the scheme a
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 3: little bit, adding a wrinkle to the to the play calling.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 3: Next week, when Liam came here, lim best season was
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 3: Booie Bye won Dale Robinson. If one day is not here,
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 3: I know that off isn't as great as it as
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 3: it ended up being because we just didn't have the
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 3: talent on the perimeter. So here's the deal with with
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 3: will Stein and with Eddie gran That's the call of
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 3: was saying. Eddie grand might have been close to coach Stoops,
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 3: but when when when Eddie Grant got hired, did not
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 3: Coach Stops said that he is the CEO of the offense. Yeah,
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 3: he trusted that guy, And just because he's next to
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 3: the coach doesn't mean the coach. Look, Anthony, I don't
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 3: have to be next to the coach to call players.
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 2: You know those things they have on that on their head,
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 2: those those headphones.
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 3: I can be on the other side of feeling, hey man,
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 3: you you better run power. Hey, quarterback power doesn't come
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 3: there next to each other. Doesn't mean anything.
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 4: You guys are playing. You didn't use like the cups
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 4: with the strings attached to call.
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 2: Y'all now vandam used pony express.
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 4: Okay, see, I figured it was like from the guy
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 4: from the Prescotch was send down a carrier pigeon to let
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 4: you guys know.
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 3: So yeah, I'm just telling y'all now, Oh, to be
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 3: a good coordinator, you better have some good players.
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 2: It's on this level you can deal. In the high school.
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 3: You can run a scheme that maybe you at a
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 3: school and the feet of school runs the same scheme
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 3: you run high school. And now the kids when they
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 3: get to you, they know what they that can happen
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 3: in high school when you get to the next level.
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 3: If you don't have if you don't have talent, you're
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 3: not gonna be good coach.
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 2: It's just as simple as that.
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 3: Bad players make great coaches look average, and great players
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 3: make average coaches look elite.
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 2: Gene Chiswick is one of them. Where's gene Chisick at now?
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 2: Was he not? At the last time? I think I
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 2: knew it wasn't that North Carolina?
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 3: I don't know where Genie is the same way, hey,
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 3: the same way you said, right, how after he lost
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 3: Tim Couch had mama coach coach at Southeastern down here.
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 3: He was not successful. Again, just be honest, he was not. Man,
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 3: he's a great and is he not? Look at I'll
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 3: never get when I came back on campus in ninety seven,
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 3: and back in those days, this is a dig Matt.
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 3: Back in those days, us former players were able to
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 3: get on the field and and not get turned away.
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 3: So I came on the field and that that joker
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 3: had a three by five index card, just like you
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 3: guys see Mike Leach and all those his his the disciples,
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 3: a three by five note card. And he came over
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 3: there with Tim Couch and I can't remember who else
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 3: it was, and said, all right, everybody change it. We're
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 3: gonna do this, this and this on the fly. He
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 3: was a great office of mine. But that's what great office.
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 3: The mind does not e quick to win losses if
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 3: you don't how the dudes. It's simple as that, speaking
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 3: of the dudes, man, that's what I was. The other
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 3: point I was gonna get to man, and I know
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 3: he likes to feed the studs. His mom likes to
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 3: feed the studs. Debbie Stein she likes to feed the
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 3: stuffs with her sissy cakes.
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you for cleaning it up.
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 4: Yeah, well on here, this is not it's.
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 2: Not our podcast. We don't we do not have those
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 2: liberties here.
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 3: No, I'm just you don't looking at our does does
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 3: the depth of our receive the quality? First of all,
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 3: quantity in our receiver room? Which are the studs that
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 3: Will speaks of. And I got a whole different philosophy
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 3: on how I feel about our office running, you know,
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 3: with DJ Miller, Nick Anderson and you know, Harley Gilmore
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 3: and some of those guys, even the local guy Kaufman Brock.
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 3: Do you think we got enough depth for Will to
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 3: do what he really and I gotta take on top
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 3: of that, but do you think Will has the depth
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 3: and the quality that he needs to do it? Because
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 3: at argument, they just man, they just bost you. It's
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 3: boss hog, Like, I'm gonna do what I want to
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 3: do to you, what I want to do to you,
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 3: how I want to do it to you. Now, it's
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 3: kind of like you got to scheme a whole lot.
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 3: And as you said, if we're taking the play call
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 3: and ability from you, it takes a lot of time.
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 2: To recognize or you gotta have eyes and you gotta
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 2: have a lot of.
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 3: Quality control around you, letting you know, hey, look man,
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 3: we can't get this route because over the week, we
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 3: can't do this, that and the other.
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 2: I will say this unless you get to him we play.
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 3: It's funny when we played Georgia, Kirby Smart was at
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 3: depth twelve yards or twelve fifteen yards. No matter what
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 3: I did, he had me from thirteen or fifteen yards
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 3: like he just he just blazed up in the box
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 3: every time the ball. So if I was running it,
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 3: he just coming free, a free runner. But but we
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 3: both at CC players, Kirby Smart on the ground, me
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 3: getting tackled by somebody else a backer, but he did
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 3: make me deviate my route.
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 2: Were running route.
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 3: He's still coming down there. You gotta cover me with
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 3: you know, it's tough as hell coming from depth. I'm
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 3: seven yards deep, he's thirty. So we twenty yards apart.
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 3: You don't know what if I'm run a seam route,
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 3: you know, we're on the ops around you know, on
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 3: the flat route or arrow route. But it's just kind
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 3: of like you said, when you start scheming. But and
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 3: so within the game, how mummy was really great at
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 3: well can we get this off?
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Man, this dude, all he doing is coming at
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 2: my chest. So man, just either do this or that.
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 3: So my whole point being is, you know, if we
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 3: have you know, the depth for will to be like, look, man,
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 3: I could just man, let's just run fade just like me.
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 3: And you were at the game at Old Miss with
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 3: d Recalf lost.
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 2: Who is lone? He's a big dude. Line is like
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 2: six three two sixty three.
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 3: Back then baby is Baty was the smallest one. Yes,
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 3: here's here's my opinion on that. On this offense, really
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 3: this season falls on the shoulders of.
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 2: Minschi and Nick Anderson. If we can get the Nick Anderson.
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 3: I think it was a redshirt freshman year Atklahoma, we're
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 3: gonna be okay. If we don't, then it's gonna be
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 3: a problem as a defensive back if in college, not
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 3: the NFL.
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 2: If if an offense.
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 3: Has a dude, normally we have to give extra attention
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 3: to him, which means we might double him, might play
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 3: in and out. So now the same thing on decent line,
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 3: if someone is getting double, that means everybody else getting single.
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 3: And if you ain't got another capable receiver that can
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 3: beat on one on one, then you shouldn't be in
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 3: sec you shouldn't be on the team on scholarship, and
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 3: you shouldn't And now they were n al you just
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 3: robbing Peter now because now you're not only getting a
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 3: free education, you get money. So if Nick Anderson is
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 3: that dude he was at Oklahoma, I think this off
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 3: he would be one day robbers and is. And if
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 3: that's the case, now it makes everybody else's job easier.
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 2: But if he's the dude he was.
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 3: It's last year Oklahoma and last year at Lash were
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 3: in deep we in deep waters, were in deep waters
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 3: with with with no snorkel, no fans in the and
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 3: the boaters left us. If if he's not, he is
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 3: the only guy, in my opinion, because d J. Miller
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 3: is still young, he's the only guy on that in
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 3: that position room that is truly a difference maker with
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 3: with with a re Now can the one of these
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 3: fresh to come in and be I don't know, but
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 3: a guy who has a resume and has some planning time,
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 3: he's the only difference maker in that room. And if
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 3: he's not a difference maker, when when deep deep waters.
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 2: What we get.
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 3: We do got the tight ends to go through. And
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 3: that's one thing they did in Oregon. And the difference
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 3: only again, I go back to the difference that Oregon
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 3: with with Will calling the place, the tight ends and
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 3: the wide receivers all look the same. Yeah, random the
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 3: tight end, man, those receivers are so dug on big
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 3: it was ridiculous. But they also could run so like
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 3: I'm with you. But here here's my philosophy. And this
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 3: is what I want to tell Big Glundation. That's what
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 3: I don't tell William Stein if he's listening to Joe Sloan.
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 3: If y'all both listening, man, this is what we need
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 3: to do. I don't know what min she is. We don't.
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 2: I don't know what we're gonna get out of men she.
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 3: I'm expecting the best out of men she because I
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 3: think Will Is gonna put him in positions.
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 2: To be successful on a constant basis.
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 3: And the more constantly you can do that, I think,
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 3: the better off we're gonna be.
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 2: I think, and.
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 3: It has been this way for years, for the past
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 3: probably fifteen years.
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 2: Put the ball in CJ. Baxter's belly. Javonte Barnes, Jason Patterson.
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 2: Even if you don't put in that belly check down Charlie's,
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 2: you don't let them, you know, do different things. I say,
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 2: we have the stable of running backs to move the change.
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 2: And when is that? When is the last time you
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 2: tell me this? This is an interesting I don't have
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 2: the stat on him, but.
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 3: I'm almost certain when is the last time that we've
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 3: had a back that rush for less than four point
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 3: five yards of carry like a starting back, combination of back.
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 2: You realize we have charged five yards.
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 3: We'll be finished now, Chris, Chris and Benny I think
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 3: was six yards apiece.
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 2: Benny, Benny was six. I know, I know Rod was.
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 3: I didn't think Bennie was that, but Aj was like
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 3: five now, Boom was like, damn, there's seventh. But my
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 3: point then is we we stay, We stay on the chains.
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 3: Will doesn't have to dial up much of a play call. Now,
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 3: Like I said, you getting in second and four, second
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 3: and five man, we your defense getting rest. We can
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 3: do whatever we want to. All meant she has to
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 3: do put the ball in the quarterback.
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 2: We can do r p O.
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 3: Put the ball in the in the running back stomach.
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 3: If it's not there. Hey, let's let's look see what's downstairs.
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 3: Play action. Now you got play action at your disposal.
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 3: You got counter, you got misdirection, and don't forget van House,
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 3: don't forget Rodriguez.
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  Speaker 2: We put it in the running backs belly. Pull it out.
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  Speaker 3: Now you got Nick running deep, you got DJ running
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  Speaker 3: deep cross. Now you got CJ running a shallow I
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  Speaker 3: mean rod REGs. Come on, man, all right, there's no
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  Speaker 3: way you can't be excited about this. All right, this this,
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  Speaker 3: I'm gonna put it to this, Anthony. And we were
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 3: doing seven o seven and T shirts and sharts and
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 3: a helmet. I'm riding with you and that old line
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 3: and that whole line whole water, don't know, we got
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 3: a whole new old line. Can that whole line? Can
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 3: that old line whole water? If they can, I'm with you.
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  Speaker 3: Here's a great thing about Anthony. Remember back in the day,
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 3: you play two non conference games, and everybody gets all
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 3: in the ts, like, oh, week two, it only takes
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 3: two weeks. We're gonna find out week two what this
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 3: team is all about. And if they come in and
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 3: if Alabama come in week two, we pull off that
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 3: that upset come back at your boy. There's no if
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 3: for me, but if I did have a wish, it
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 3: would be that we could do this show next week
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 3: as well. But we came, so we're gonna have our
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 3: last segment when we come back just to CATS Radio.
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  Speaker 2: We'll be back after this.
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• 1:16:57
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• 1:17:00
  Speaker 3: program then. But as for now, we got one more
• 1:17:03
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• 1:17:07
  Speaker 3: around the corner beating Alabama the second week of the season.
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  Speaker 2: Ben, As you were.
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  Speaker 3: Talking about, you know the offensive line, and this is
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 3: supposed to be it's taty one of the best offensive
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 3: lines that we've had here at Kentucky in sometime and
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 3: one thing we talk about on our podcast on Wednesday
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 3: nights is all the pieces you're talking four star, five
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 3: stars guys that may have had a setback of their
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 3: program or just didn't fit in at their program. And
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 3: now we got a lot of as far as on
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 3: paper a good offensive line. But these guys have to jail.
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 3: They have to know how to rub, they have to
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 3: know how to work together, they have to know how
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 3: to you know, to pull, and you know, they have.
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  Speaker 2: To know each other, which they're using this off season
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  Speaker 2: to do.
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 3: And you you kind of stated before we went to
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 3: break that you know that's gonna be that's kind of
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 3: a contingency on if Minji or Minsi, Minshi or Sloan
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 3: and those guys are gonna have a productive offensive those
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 3: guys do. They gotta do it front. But as far
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 3: as on paper, man, these guys are doing it. And
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 3: the other thing is we know that our defensive front
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 3: has been stout for the past seven eight years, so
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 3: you know they're gonna get good looks on the daily.
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 3: That's and that's one thing I don't know if you
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 3: know this from inside program, that these guys are talking
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 3: like I remember when we played back in our day.
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  Speaker 2: You know, we had an indoor during the summer.
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 3: You know, guys run route and if we can't get
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 3: a route off, receiver would ask.
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  Speaker 2: The dB like, man, what's your tail?
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 3: How are you telling because you dipping your hip every
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 3: time before you do this, so try to and so
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 3: you just work on it all summer to take that
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 3: to take that tail away. In the same if a
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 3: dB is getting beat and if you know every time
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 3: you open your hips, I'm gonna do this, So you know,
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 3: just kind of get the workman, and I hear that's
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 3: what the defensive line and the offensive line are doing. Like, man,
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 3: we beating you every time because you're giving us even
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 3: your stance is showing us that your inside is open.
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 3: So you you kind of talked about the offensive line
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 3: being probably the biggest factor on the success of Joe
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 3: Sloan and and William But uh, I don't know. I'm
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 3: still optimistic until I see it can't be done. I'm
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 3: assuming it's gonna be done. I would say this and
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 3: this is and this is where it gets into coaching.
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 3: How we have talked about like a Grant is what
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 3: what's so great about Eddie Grant is he schemed to
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 3: what his players could do.
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 2: Now is Joe Sloan.
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  Speaker 3: And Will Stickler do the same thing, the only thing different,
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 3: the only thing. The problem with that is does your
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 3: playbook get too soon? Like can you what can your
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 3: players handle? And can they adapt? But you don't want
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 3: to go You don't want to deviate too much from
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 3: what you want to do because if they can't, if
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 3: they can't handle it, it goes back to what I
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 3: said earlier. Now I'm gonna look side out at your
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  Speaker 3: evaluation of the guys.
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  Speaker 2: You you brought on the old line. All I've heard
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 2: this old line.
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  Speaker 3: Is supposed to be good, like this is gonna be
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 3: one of the better We getting almost back to the
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 3: big Blue wall. If they get close to the resemblance
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 3: of what Slur had here when when when he was coaching.
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 3: We have a chance to be special, y'all. And especially
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 3: does not mean I don't want to say that special.
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 3: Especially we get six seven, then then we all right,
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  Speaker 3: all right, So let's let's see where we are. I
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 3: like the excitement Week two, It's stamped on my schedule.
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 3: See what we do again, The Great Crimson Tide with
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 3: Kaitlyn de Boor and the Wee Beat them.
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  Speaker 2: I'm telling you, man, I'm gonna get excited. Why wouldn't
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 2: you be excited from the beginning?
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 3: I am excited, but but I'm excited to so we
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 3: we can win five games in comfortence exciting?
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 2: Now living? Why are you so living to? Why? Five?
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 2: What do you be? Fair? We got what we got it,
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 2: we got ten minutes left. Let's let's let's oh, oh
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  Speaker 2: the schedule you wan up on the schedule. Yeah, we
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 2: got the schedule. I got the schedule of it Youngstown State.
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  Speaker 3: I'm assuming w Alabama here in Lexington, Fayette County, three
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 3: thirty on ABC.
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  Speaker 2: Let's let's roll with.
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 3: Let's roll with the hypothetical of everybody saying, w huh,
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 3: that's a w the hypothetic, but you said all of
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 3: them W no, no, no, Alabama's a W college station
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 3: Texas A and M very next week, huh. Because you're
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 3: probably gonna be a little beat up. You gonna be
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 3: a little beat up. You're probably gonna lose a couple
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 3: of people, and you don't bruises. So two and one.
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 2: South Alabama here in Lexington fed Country. He even got
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 2: even three and one.
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 3: Oh, now you go bamber ball down down in Columbia,
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 3: South Carolina bamra ball. Can we win in Colombia for
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 3: one time? Can we win at Columbia one time? That's
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 3: three you three and two?
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 2: Oh lord, that's terrible. Now, I know, I know you,
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 2: I know. We got biased here.
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  Speaker 3: But we're back here in Lexton, Faed County against the
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 3: fighting Mike, the Tigers three and three from batting rouge.
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 3: Although although we got a new coach, like we got
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 3: a new coach when I played, we we won every
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 3: game at home against LSU. You know what, hypothetically, no,
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  Speaker 3: I oh, you know what, No.
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  Speaker 2: Three and three, we three and three Norman. We gotta
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 2: go to Norman three four, three and four?
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 3: All right, all right, all right, so we ain't got
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 3: the short quarterback no more.
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 2: Vanderbilt rolls in the town four to four.
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 3: A week later, four or four, two weeks later, now
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 3: two weeks later, bye week, two weeks later. Jeans heifeling
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 3: them are welcoming us down in Knoxville, Tennessee for a
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 3: good game. Remember twenty twenty we rolled down there with
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 3: Garantino like twenty one.
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 2: Points gearing towner. Ain't coming through that door. Five and four.
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 2: We everyone to Knoxville, win five or four were in Knoxville.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, uh the fighting John Summer ales a Florida Gators
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 3: coming in lection tip for the first time, coming back
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 3: on do we record against Florida last four to five years?
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  Speaker 2: Six and four?
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 3: Look at man Guindy, Missouri. Oh, drink drinks still in Missouri? Ready,
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 3: tell yeah, you gotta go down there. Though it's an
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 3: ugly place to play. All right, this is what gonna happen.
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 3: We six and four. You're looking at that little game
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 3: Louis was. I say, let's let's say Louis.
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 2: Nine two.
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 3: Were looking ahead because we're trying to get them out
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 3: the playoffs. I say, we lose that game with six
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 3: and five?
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 1: Is that is?
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 2: That? Is that Sandwich games? It's that weird one.
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 3: You got Florida little and we're gonna be unfocused and
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 3: we gotta go Yeah, six and five. Then the last
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 3: as game of this season, we got to fight Matthew
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 3: childresses of Louisville, Kentucky. As as John Sharp would say,
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 3: we're gonna hang up a hundred bighams.
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 1: Look if I if.
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  Speaker 4: I ever saw a lot of football team allow another
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 4: team to put up one hundred big ones on them,
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 4: I would denounce my fandom for not just football, the
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 4: entire university itself.
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 1: I'd have to move states.
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 3: Okay, well, well I've already written up a declaration. All
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 3: you gotta do is sign the mat we seven and five,
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 3: one hundred Bighams through Tim Bigghams seventy five. And I know,
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 3: and I'm not mad at I'm not mad at the
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 3: way you got there either. I'm not mad at the
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 3: way you got there.
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 2: Matt.
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 3: I don't know, except you're not a huge I don't
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 3: know how much Kentucky fan you are huge. I don't
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 3: know if you gotta say so on the last game
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 3: against Louisville everything that, or you think that any of
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 3: the games that Van predicted Wims have lost you would
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 3: disagree with.
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 4: I don't disagree with really any of them. The only
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 4: one that I can say that I will fight you
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 4: about is the one in Knoxville. Like I know, Kentucky
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 4: and Tennessee do always play tight. That's a big rivalry
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 4: game Historically, They're just not great in Knoxville. The only
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 4: thing about this team, I really don't know how to
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 4: pick this game. It's kind of a coin flip for
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 4: me because, like I said, Kentucky doesn't play particularly well
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 4: in Knoxville, but at the same time they have Josh
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 4: Hipel as a head coach.
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 1: That dude's never gonna win a championship. I he can't.
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 1: I don't know what his problem is.
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 4: He'll he'll put up sixty points a game, but he
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 4: constantly hires defensive coordinators that give up forty five. So
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 4: like it's one where under Mark Stoops, I was fully
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 4: confident that Kentucky just couldn't beat that team. They just
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 4: didn't have the offense for it. But under will Stein,
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 4: they might have a chance. You know, it's gonna be
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 4: a shootout kind of game. That's how Josh Hipel likes
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 4: to coach. So that one I'm willing to give you.
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 4: That might be the only game willing to fight you on.
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 4: Or you know, I know you said, hypothetically Alabama, that's
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 4: the other one. If you said that one hundred percent,
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 4: I'd say, okay, i'ma have to fight you back in Alabama.
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 1: But I don't mind how you got there. I don't
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 1: mind seven and five.
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 4: You know, there's obviously a couple of games in there
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 4: at Kentucky will probably win that Maybe you think they
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 4: wouldn't win, or maybe they lose that you probably shouldn't lose.
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 1: So I'm fine with seven, five, six and six.
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 3: So yeah, so so so then the baseline for our
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 3: fan base, I guess it's gonna be that six and six.
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 4: I think you have to I think you have to
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 4: make a bowl game this season. I think that should
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 4: be a bare minimum you should.
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 3: You have to find you have to hold on, hold on,
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 3: hold on, man. You said we have to because we
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 3: fired a coach that consistently with the bowl games, or
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 3: you're saying a new coach coming in. We've been on
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 3: the decline for three years. The coach just got fired
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 3: after the last two bad years, and now we suspect that, Hey,
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 3: you know, I don't even know if you well, I
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 3: guess Mark Stoukes Brooks, as we pointed out, Brooks had
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 3: two five hundred seasons in the SEC one SEC and
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 3: we went to a couple of bowl games. Mark Stoops
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 3: made it very you know, common place to go to
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 3: bowl games. So you say, for this coach to come
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 3: in his first year after coaching change, have then, have
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 3: we ever had a coach come in for you're a
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 3: coaching change, because all our coaching change has been fires.
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 3: It's not well what you call it. Uh yeah, Mors
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 3: Morris is the only.
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 1: Last coming I know. We gotta get out here in
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 1: a few minutes. I'll make this really fast.
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 4: The only reason I say that is just because of
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 4: the era of college football we're in now. I'm not
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 4: saying you need to make a playoff in your first
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 4: three or four years. I'm not saying you got to
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 4: compete for a national SEC title in the first three
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 4: or four years. I think that if you want to
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 4: continue funding the Kentucky football program in the way that
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 4: they are behind will Stein right now, like you said,
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 4: the bring they're trying to build the big Blue wall again.
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 1: They're trying to feed the studs. You got to have
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 1: money to feed those studs.
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 4: And if you want to do that, especially with the
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 4: issues that's going on in the basketball side right now,
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 4: with like is Mark Pope gonna be here another year,
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 4: you have to you have to pay a whole nother
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 4: buy out right there. You're still paying Mark Stoops. You know,
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 4: you're still paying some of these other guys. If you
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 4: want to continue to say that, like for the boosters
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 4: and the donate and the donors, to say I'm still
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 4: gonna give that money.
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 1: Jam I say, look, we're still gonna commit to football.
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 4: You know you're gonna have a will Stein guy who's
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 4: gonna be looked at all over across the country if
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 4: he has success here to coach somewhere else.
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 1: If you want to keep somebody like that, you.
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 4: Got to set the bar kind of high early and say, look,
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 4: we've given you the resources. We want this to be different.
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 4: We don't want to be like the history of Kentucky.
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 4: We want to start something new with you. If he
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 4: gets five wins, I'm not gonna say, look, you're out
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 4: of here, Bud. The sea's hot. But I think if
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 4: you want to be able to say there's a positive
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 4: trajectory you're looking up into the future, bowl game for
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 4: me is like you just got to at least make
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 4: one at least or at least compete, compete for a
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 4: bowl game in your first season to show the fans that, hey,
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 4: we are in investing in this in the future.
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 1: This is not a one off.
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 2: Man. We got about thirty seconds, so you it is.
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 3: It is it bowl game or bus for you, for
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 3: the real for the real blue guy, the real blue guy,
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 3: not the red guy.
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 2: Like we said yesterday, the standard is the standard.
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 3: Like, we can't reduce the standard because you just fired
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 3: a guy and now and you held him up to
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 3: a standard, and now we're gonna lower the standard.
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 2: The standard is a standard.
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 3: I'm not gonna say a bus, but I think he
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 3: has to win five or six games. We go back
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 3: to winning four games again? Why do we fire Alaskay?
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 3: That is Van House, I mean Anthony White of the locker.
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 3: Thanks to Matthew Children for keeping us on air. Mike
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 3: Michael Bennett will be back on Monday. Thanks for letting
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 3: us get an opportunity. Check us out on Wednesday nine
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 3: pm to ten pm Eastern Standard Time.
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 2: In the locker, four one one, We're out of here.
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 2: Thank you for listening.
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 1: You what is that analogy