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- 0:08Speaker 1: Ball system's going clear, the lift up? What is going on?
- 0:40Speaker 2: Shipping Nation YouTube station, Back of the saddle with my
- 0:43Speaker 2: guy ham here talking a good one here him tonight.
- 0:47Speaker 1: We got the Rams.
- 0:47Speaker 2: We got the Buccaneers heading into La to Sofi Stadium
- 0:52Speaker 2: and face those Rams over there, Todd Bowles Sean McVay.
- 0:55Speaker 2: Should be a nice game here. Forty nine and a
- 0:57Speaker 2: half total Ram seven point favorites. Year should be a
- 1:01Speaker 2: pretty fun one, obviously, the Rams looking one of the
- 1:04Speaker 2: best teams in the league.
- 1:05Speaker 1: We know Tampa is a pass funnel here.
- 1:08Speaker 2: We know everybody's crowning Matthew Stafford as the covenant MVP
- 1:13Speaker 2: of the season. The dude just can't stop throwing for
- 1:16Speaker 2: three hundred plus and three tds every week. What does
- 1:19Speaker 2: that look like here tonight. We'll do our best to
- 1:20Speaker 2: break it all down here him, what's up?
- 1:22Speaker 1: Man? Happy Sunday? How are you, brother?
- 1:24Speaker 3: Yeah, happy Sunday. Excited for this game. We got former
- 1:27Speaker 3: Rams legend Baker Mayfield going back home or he had
- 1:31Speaker 3: two illustrious career games as the Rams starter. But it
- 1:35Speaker 3: should be a good When they were in Buffalo last week,
- 1:37Speaker 3: now flying across the country to take on this Rams team,
- 1:40Speaker 3: you said, MVP front runner Matthew Stafford, the ageless one,
- 1:44Speaker 3: just throwing darts left and right, no look passes. Hopefully
- 1:47Speaker 3: they don't play seven tight ends again tonight. Looking forward
- 1:50Speaker 3: to breaking this one all down, and it should be
- 1:52Speaker 3: a good one, as you alluded to.
- 1:53Speaker 2: Yeah, well maybe they'll play six tight ends because mister
- 1:57Speaker 2: old Tyler Higbee is on the shell for the IR
- 2:00Speaker 2: there should thrust in some additional potential opportunities, I should
- 2:05Speaker 2: say for guys like Terrence Ferguson, the young player who
- 2:08Speaker 2: they typically like a little bit there.
- 2:11Speaker 1: But it's just obviously so muddied up there.
- 2:13Speaker 2: They still have three tight ends with one of them
- 2:15Speaker 2: going to the shelf in Parkinson, Davis, Allen and Ferguson.
- 2:18Speaker 2: So we'll do our best to talk all all through there.
- 2:21Speaker 2: But let's go ahead and pull our screen share here up.
- 2:26Speaker 2: And we got a partner, Saber sim let me just
- 2:28Speaker 2: swap over and while so I ran one hundred and
- 2:31Speaker 2: fifty teams here Ham just as kind of an average
- 2:34Speaker 2: of us in Saber Simps projections. Obviously, this is eight
- 2:36Speaker 2: thirty in the morning on Sunday here, so everything's gonna
- 2:41Speaker 2: change by then. We have some big questionable tags in
- 2:45Speaker 2: Chris Godwin looking like he's trending towards the play. Doesn't
- 2:48Speaker 2: know what that looks like from a snap count perspective
- 2:51Speaker 2: and all of that, but there is some They're pretty
- 2:55Speaker 2: injury riddled elsewhere, especially on the defense side of things
- 2:58Speaker 2: for Tampa in general.
- 3:00Speaker 1: But captain position, no surprise.
- 3:03Speaker 2: Puka Nakua seventy one percent of the dry run optimal.
- 3:07Speaker 1: He is going to be the chalkiest guy up there.
- 3:09Speaker 2: And then his counterpart, his old quarterback running the helm,
- 3:13Speaker 2: is going to be the second highest on captain at
- 3:14Speaker 2: least from early looks, and then Davante Adams, So it's
- 3:18Speaker 2: pretty much a three headed monster in terms of ownership.
- 3:20Speaker 2: Obviously you filter by ownership here in the captain spot.
- 3:23Speaker 2: You see the four rams pop up there Kyen Williams.
- 3:26Speaker 2: I'm pretty pretty scared there for Kyen Williams. I don't
- 3:28Speaker 2: think this is a great spot there for him, so
- 3:30Speaker 2: we'll touch on him. But Pooka Stafford Devonte Adams lead
- 3:34Speaker 2: the charge in terms of ownership on the slate. What
- 3:38Speaker 2: do you see here fro from the captain position based
- 3:41Speaker 2: on the dry run, and what are you kind of
- 3:43Speaker 2: looking at as your kind of top captains here.
- 3:47Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, no surprise. I mean I like what
- 3:49Speaker 3: you see up there. I actually have Davante as my
- 3:52Speaker 3: number one captain. He does plays more than Puka in
- 3:57Speaker 3: those you know, two or three tight end sets. If
- 4:00Speaker 3: you get around inside the five, he's there. You know,
- 4:04Speaker 3: quote unquote goal line receiver.
- 4:06Speaker 2: Uh.
- 4:07Speaker 3: You know they thrown him two yard touchdown passes. Uh.
- 4:10Speaker 3: So I actually like Davante a little bit more than Pooka.
- 4:13Speaker 1: Uh.
- 4:13Speaker 3: Pookah only played sixty seven percent of the snaps last week.
- 4:16Speaker 3: They did control that game, and they're slated to control
- 4:19Speaker 3: this game as well. So I have Davante number one, uh,
- 4:22Speaker 3: Stafford number two, Puoka three, and then yeah, I'm with
- 4:26Speaker 3: you on Kyron. Kyeren just doesn't have the same bellcal
- 4:28Speaker 3: role that he had last year. A lot more of
- 4:30Speaker 3: Korum is getting mixed in there and not really catching
- 4:33Speaker 3: the ball like he has in the past. And then
- 4:36Speaker 3: on the flip side, it's a it's a two man
- 4:38Speaker 3: show for me. Over there. You see a Mecca right there.
- 4:40Speaker 3: He's a he's a stud. We've seen what he can do,
- 4:43Speaker 3: you know, against the likes of Seattle Tampa. I think
- 4:47Speaker 3: he had a good or not Tampa, New England, he
- 4:50Speaker 3: had a good game. Uh so, just numerous games where
- 4:52Speaker 3: he cut up really well. And then Baker. You know,
- 4:55Speaker 3: if you're gonna have a Buka, then you you also
- 4:57Speaker 3: got to think that he could pull Baker along as well.
- 5:01Speaker 3: Baker has a little bit of a rushing upside. He
- 5:03Speaker 3: doesn't want to run, but he will, and then he'll
- 5:06Speaker 3: get up and first down in your face and go
- 5:08Speaker 3: crazy like Baker does. So to me, it's really just
- 5:10Speaker 3: five people. It's it's it's Adams, Stafford, Puka. Then it's
- 5:15Speaker 3: a Mecca and Baker, I'm not getting cute with the defense,
- 5:18Speaker 3: is not getting cute with the kickers. And I'm gonna
- 5:21Speaker 3: roll with those five and try to get the best
- 5:22Speaker 3: team I possibly can.
- 5:24Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I like that. I'll touch on a little bit.
- 5:27Speaker 2: My overall favorite captain on the slate is gonna be
- 5:29Speaker 2: a mecca.
- 5:29Speaker 1: Buca.
- 5:31Speaker 2: The Rams bleed wide receiver. One points to the opposition. Here,
- 5:34Speaker 2: there's seven point dogs on the road.
- 5:36Speaker 1: Here. You know, Baker's gonna sling it.
- 5:38Speaker 2: This Rams defense is fairly good as well, and this
- 5:41Speaker 2: backfield is kind of a mess with Rashad White and
- 5:44Speaker 2: Sean Tucker. I don't think Sean Tucker is running for
- 5:46Speaker 2: his nine hundred and sixty four yards again in five tds,
- 5:49Speaker 2: so we'll we'll see what happens there.
- 5:51Speaker 1: But I think a Mechabuka.
- 5:53Speaker 2: Here is kind of my flag plant on this on
- 5:57Speaker 2: the slate, I mean septem percent ownership in the captain
- 5:59Speaker 2: position here. Godwin coming back I think just helps free
- 6:02Speaker 2: like Guka up a little bit, just in terms of
- 6:05Speaker 2: defensive schemes. I know Godwin's not fully healthy, He's gonna
- 6:08Speaker 2: be out there probably on a pitch count, but when
- 6:10Speaker 2: he's out there, I think it's gonna free up at
- 6:13Speaker 2: Buka quite a bit. So I like him overall as
- 6:16Speaker 2: my top. Pooka Nakula would be my second, just in
- 6:19Speaker 2: line with every the kind of ownership there. But there's
- 6:23Speaker 2: a reason why I'm back in on Pooka. We kind
- 6:25Speaker 2: of seen his production slipped last couple of weeks because
- 6:28Speaker 2: the Rams have been running more thirteen personnel now with
- 6:32Speaker 2: Higbee off, and they obviously love Higbee in general. Higbe
- 6:35Speaker 2: and Parkinson. Yeah, they could do that with guys like
- 6:38Speaker 2: Ferguson and Davis Allen in there, but I think they
- 6:40Speaker 2: just rely more on pookin Nakua this week with no
- 6:44Speaker 2: Tyler Higby. It's not the same Higbe soaking up a
- 6:47Speaker 2: ton of targets. But from a personnel standpoint and an
- 6:50Speaker 2: offensive standpoint, that's what affects pookin Nakula the most. So
- 6:53Speaker 2: I think he is propped to be really good here,
- 6:57Speaker 2: and then DeVante Adams it is my third guy there.
- 7:01Speaker 2: I would probably if I'm going DeVante Adams in the
- 7:04Speaker 2: captain I would probably avoid Puoka in the flex just
- 7:07Speaker 2: because it's hard to see in that's realm you're gonna
- 7:11Speaker 2: because from a salary game, right, you got Puka, you
- 7:14Speaker 2: got Stafford, you got Baker, you got DeVante, Kyron and
- 7:17Speaker 2: Ibuka are all priced up there when we swap over
- 7:20Speaker 2: to the flex, right, they're all ninety six hundred and above.
- 7:24Speaker 2: You got to make some stands when you're building your rosters.
- 7:27Speaker 2: You can't just go in and play them all. I'll
- 7:29Speaker 2: touch on that here in a second. With some additional
- 7:31Speaker 2: captains that you can look at to be able to
- 7:33Speaker 2: do more of a Stars and Scrubs type route, but
- 7:36Speaker 2: when you're playing either Puka or DeVante in the captain position,
- 7:40Speaker 2: I would probably avoid the other one in the flex
- 7:43Speaker 2: and just say, hey, they're gonna soak it up. And
- 7:45Speaker 2: that's why they're up in the captain spot, and it's
- 7:47Speaker 2: not Matthew Stafford, because if they're both kind of eating,
- 7:51Speaker 2: I foresee Stafford probably being the guy you need up
- 7:54Speaker 2: top at the salary discount a little bit off of
- 7:56Speaker 2: Puka Nakua there. So I do like kind of separating
- 7:59Speaker 2: them and just getting in on them in the captain
- 8:02Speaker 2: position to saying, hey, if it's a pooka game, I'm
- 8:05Speaker 2: gonna be lower on DeVante and then take some values
- 8:08Speaker 2: from the front, from the Bucks or the Rams, et cetera,
- 8:12Speaker 2: maybe the kickers, things like that, some of these backup
- 8:14Speaker 2: tight ends, which makes my overall roster look a little
- 8:18Speaker 2: bit better, right than kind of going up with both
- 8:21Speaker 2: of them there. So those are kind of the three
- 8:22Speaker 2: main guys I'm looking at there. I think Stafford is fine,
- 8:25Speaker 2: but I actually probably prefer Baker at ownership and with
- 8:28Speaker 2: the total. I'm sure the Rams are fine sitting on
- 8:32Speaker 2: the football here, even in a tough spot against Tampa,
- 8:35Speaker 2: but if they're playing with the lead, I have a
- 8:37Speaker 2: hard time seeing them just kind of slinging it left
- 8:40Speaker 2: and right NonStop coming down the stretch here, whereas Baker
- 8:42Speaker 2: on the other end can make plays, he has rushing upside,
- 8:45Speaker 2: he can run. So at the fraction of the ownership,
- 8:48Speaker 2: I mean you're talking like one seventh of the ownership
- 8:51Speaker 2: here for Baker versus Stafford. When I'm already in more
- 8:55Speaker 2: on the rams pass catchers in the captain position, I'm
- 8:58Speaker 2: more heavily invested in Baker when he can spread it out.
- 9:02Speaker 2: God when coming back right, you got Sean White in
- 9:04Speaker 2: the in the receiving game, you got Kate Otten, obviously
- 9:07Speaker 2: you've got ted Johnson Sheppard all these other donkeys that
- 9:10Speaker 2: he can spread it out to plus get it done
- 9:12Speaker 2: with with his legs. So overall, my favorite captains on
- 9:15Speaker 2: the slate like Buka number one, Puka two, Davonte three,
- 9:19Speaker 2: Baker four, And then I'll make a case for two
- 9:23Speaker 2: other guys here or one other guy in particular. I
- 9:26Speaker 2: think Chase McLoughlin is an interesting captain here. And the
- 9:29Speaker 2: reason being is why is it puts you on a
- 9:32Speaker 2: completely different build than what the field does. And if
- 9:35Speaker 2: you look at the games where McLoughlin has had a
- 9:37Speaker 2: ceiling on the season, I mean he's got a ceiling
- 9:39Speaker 2: of twenty one at five thousand dollars in the flax.
- 9:42Speaker 2: You put him up in the captain position, he's seventy
- 9:44Speaker 2: five hundred, and guess what if Pooka hits his medium projection,
- 9:48Speaker 2: If Stafford hits their median projection, if Baker hits his
- 9:50Speaker 2: median projection, Kyron Davante a Buca, if some of those
- 9:55Speaker 2: four or five of those guys hit their medium projection, well,
- 9:57Speaker 2: how do you have those in your ross?
- 10:00Speaker 1: You have to go to a cheaper captain.
- 10:01Speaker 2: I think more people go to like a Kobe Parkinson
- 10:05Speaker 2: or a Tees Johnson or something like that up in
- 10:07Speaker 2: the captain position to be able to afford those guys.
- 10:10Speaker 2: I like going with a guy Chase McLoughlin, who in
- 10:14Speaker 2: games where it's back and forth, he's shown a twenty one,
- 10:17Speaker 2: he's shown a sixteen, a twelve, a seventeen. I mean,
- 10:20Speaker 2: if him at seventy five hundred in the captain position
- 10:23Speaker 2: gets you twelve, sixteen, seventeen, twenty one one of those,
- 10:26Speaker 2: like he did against the Saints, like he did against
- 10:28Speaker 2: the Seattle in a thirty eight to thirty five game
- 10:31Speaker 2: where he scored twelve Philly game thirty one, twenty five.
- 10:34Speaker 2: They lost that game, but it was fairly competitive. He
- 10:36Speaker 2: scored sixteen against the Jets. When it was back and
- 10:39Speaker 2: forth twenty nine to twenty seven, he scored twenty one. Right,
- 10:42Speaker 2: So in situations like that, I think you could see
- 10:45Speaker 2: him find his way to the optimal captain position because
- 10:48Speaker 2: what it does for your roster construction in the flex
- 10:51Speaker 2: gets you more of those guys that have a potential
- 10:54Speaker 2: to score those twenty eighteen to twenty five range in
- 10:58Speaker 2: the flex with those top dogs that that are very
- 11:01Speaker 2: expensive there. So he's probably my distant fifth captain would
- 11:04Speaker 2: be Chase McLoughlin. And then I think you could take
- 11:07Speaker 2: a sprinkle of guys like Ted Johnson Kobe Parkinson for
- 11:10Speaker 2: the same realm, but I much prefer the the Ted
- 11:14Speaker 2: Johnson to Parkinson over there.
- 11:15Speaker 1: So overall captain pool fairly spread out.
- 11:19Speaker 2: But I think, uh, condensing on on the top four
- 11:21Speaker 2: that I talked about seem to seem to be kind
- 11:24Speaker 2: of where I'm focused on any additional takes from the
- 11:27Speaker 2: captain before we jump over and talk flex.
- 11:29Speaker 3: Hear him, Yeah, No, I like I like your point
- 11:32Speaker 3: about about about the McLoughlin. It allows you to jam
- 11:36Speaker 3: in a few more studs, right, you're giving up a
- 11:38Speaker 3: little bit in projection, but you're getting you're getting more, Uh,
- 11:41Speaker 3: you're getting more studs that you can jam in there.
- 11:43Speaker 3: So I don't I don't hate that.
- 11:45Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I just think it's it's gonna be more contrarian, right.
- 11:48Speaker 2: Kicker captains feel like a mess for for a lot
- 11:50Speaker 2: of people. But people have to understand why why a
- 11:53Speaker 2: kicker captain could work on a slate like this when
- 11:55Speaker 2: we have six guys that are priced at ten k
- 11:57Speaker 2: basically or above with medium projections anywhere from sixteen to
- 12:02Speaker 2: twenty four right with Pooka there, And if those guys
- 12:05Speaker 2: do end up hitting those medium projections, you're gonna see
- 12:09Speaker 2: more balanced captain route and have more of these guys
- 12:11Speaker 2: in the flex hit. So don't want to rule myself
- 12:14Speaker 2: out of a scenario like that. So let's jump over
- 12:17Speaker 2: and talk flex here. Talk to quarterbacks. Stafford Baker. Obviously
- 12:21Speaker 2: both great plays, but they are priced up. I mean
- 12:23Speaker 2: DraftKings finally priced these quarterbacks up. They looked at the
- 12:25Speaker 2: total both of these guys right at the battle for
- 12:28Speaker 2: Baker's kind of slipping in the MVP, he was up
- 12:30Speaker 2: there for a while. Stafford has been the front runner
- 12:34Speaker 2: in general ten eight, ten to six. What do you
- 12:37Speaker 2: think from these quarterbacks here in the flex? Are you
- 12:41Speaker 2: higher on one, lower on the other, et cetera.
- 12:44Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I like them both. Obviously, Stafford's has
- 12:48Speaker 3: been playing so well in terms of just getting spread
- 12:51Speaker 3: in the ball around. Jamel Dean is out again, no
- 12:55Speaker 3: hasan Reddick. So I really like Stafford tonight. You know,
- 13:00Speaker 3: especially if I have Puca or DeVante in the captain,
- 13:04Speaker 3: I'm gonna want Stafford in the flex. And even if
- 13:07Speaker 3: I have Stafford and the captain, I think I want him.
- 13:10Speaker 3: I want like three pass catchers like his two big
- 13:13Speaker 3: big dogs, and then one of the tight ends and
- 13:16Speaker 3: then Baker. Same thing as like, if Baker will give
- 13:18Speaker 3: you that that rushing upside, Matthew's not gonna really run it.
- 13:22Speaker 3: So Baker is squarely in play. I would say he's
- 13:26Speaker 3: slightly behind Stafford for me. You made another good point though,
- 13:30Speaker 3: is that Baker's gonna be chucking that ball around all
- 13:34Speaker 3: night because they they're going to be down, so he's
- 13:37Speaker 3: gonna have to find the guys to pass it to.
- 13:40Speaker 3: So that's a good point there. But I still think
- 13:42Speaker 3: with Stafford's touchdown upside, I'm gonna go Stafford over Mayfield.
- 13:46Speaker 3: But they're both squarely in play in the flex.
- 13:49Speaker 2: Yeah, I just think I'm gonna be higher on what
- 13:51Speaker 2: the field is going to be on Baker here. I'm
- 13:52Speaker 2: seeing right around thirty percent ownership on Baker and sixty
- 13:57Speaker 2: percent on Stafford. I mean, I'm happy being much closer
- 14:01Speaker 2: than that, if not favoring more more towards Baker, because
- 14:06Speaker 2: we have seen scenarios where Puka gets his, DeVante gets him,
- 14:10Speaker 2: and Stafford just kind of has a middling game, right,
- 14:13Speaker 2: like at twenty to twenty something point game, right because
- 14:17Speaker 2: it's not a bunch of touchdowns, it's a bunch of
- 14:18Speaker 2: yardage and receptions, right that kind of get Pookah in
- 14:22Speaker 2: DeVante there. So in a scenario like that where the
- 14:25Speaker 2: field is gonna naturally want to be pairing Stafford obviously
- 14:28Speaker 2: with one of them in the captain position, all it
- 14:31Speaker 2: takes is Baker to outscore Stafford for two hundred dollars
- 14:33Speaker 2: cheaper in a build like that where Puka still gets
- 14:36Speaker 2: his or DeVante still gets his up top, and then
- 14:38Speaker 2: Baker still does enough to outscore Stafford but those guys
- 14:42Speaker 2: are still optimal in the captain or same thing in
- 14:44Speaker 2: the flex. So I'm gonna be higher on Baker in
- 14:47Speaker 2: the flex here. Looking, I mean, he's got a thirteen
- 14:49Speaker 2: and a half rushing prop that's ten yards, just ten
- 14:52Speaker 2: yards less than a guy like Rashad White at twenty
- 14:55Speaker 2: three and a half. I mean, Baker's rushing prop is
- 14:57Speaker 2: thirteen and a half. His passing props are are right
- 15:00Speaker 2: there as well, two forty three and a half, which
- 15:03Speaker 2: is right in line with Stafford at two fifty nine
- 15:05Speaker 2: and a half. So overall, I think I think Baker
- 15:10Speaker 2: is a really good play. I mean, he's plus seven
- 15:13Speaker 2: hundred to score a touchdown as well, which which is
- 15:16Speaker 2: pretty solid. So overall, I like Baker a ton here,
- 15:19Speaker 2: and I'll be higher on Baker over Stafford, especially in
- 15:22Speaker 2: the flax and the captain position as well, and just
- 15:24Speaker 2: taking that ownership discount there where I like the skill
- 15:27Speaker 2: players more. From the rams side of the ball, Let's
- 15:30Speaker 2: talk these running backs here. Let me filter by by
- 15:32Speaker 2: running backs, and uh, it's kind of a muddy situation,
- 15:36Speaker 2: right Kyron and Korum kind of a kind of a
- 15:39Speaker 2: split in general, just looking at the kind of outlook
- 15:44Speaker 2: from the last couple of weeks for Korum and Kyron.
- 15:48Speaker 2: I mean it's like a sixty to thirty split, seventy
- 15:51Speaker 2: thirty split or seventy thirty. Excuse me, it was sixty
- 15:55Speaker 2: forty week ten went up to seventy thirty. Last week
- 15:58Speaker 2: was seventy thirty nine, So it's kind of seventy thirty.
- 16:02Speaker 2: But again, we know it's tougher to run on the
- 16:07Speaker 2: Bucks defense here, right, They're historically a pass funnel, So
- 16:10Speaker 2: what does that do?
- 16:10Speaker 3: Right?
- 16:11Speaker 2: Korum at three K, Kyron all the way up at
- 16:13Speaker 2: ten K is kind of ridiculous price point there. And
- 16:16Speaker 2: then we got Rashad White and Sean Tucker. Shan Tucker
- 16:18Speaker 2: seems to be the lead rushing back, and then Rashad
- 16:21Speaker 2: White is obviously that pass catching guy. I think I
- 16:24Speaker 2: slightly lean to Rashad White in a scenario like here,
- 16:28Speaker 2: just with the rushing game or the receiving game. I
- 16:30Speaker 2: think they're gonna need him out there more as they're
- 16:32Speaker 2: playing with a playing from behind in a trail script.
- 16:36Speaker 2: So I think overall, my favorite running back is the
- 16:38Speaker 2: lowest owned one of all four of these guys, in
- 16:40Speaker 2: Rashad White at seven k I think everybody sees what
- 16:43Speaker 2: Sean Tucker just did last week, chases that, but I
- 16:46Speaker 2: think it's completely different match up here, a completely different
- 16:49Speaker 2: game environment for the Bucks.
- 16:50Speaker 1: I like Rashad White the best of all four of
- 16:52Speaker 1: these guys. What do you see here?
- 16:54Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm with you all that. I mean, Rashad White's
- 16:57Speaker 3: not a running back, he's a wide receiver too, and
- 17:00Speaker 3: they're gonna dump it down to him. We know the
- 17:02Speaker 3: front four of the Rams can get after it, so
- 17:04Speaker 3: that's gonna lead a lot of dump dump offs to Rashad.
- 17:07Speaker 3: You know, he could catch seven passes for nineteen yards
- 17:11Speaker 3: and you're looking at basically you know, or nine points, right,
- 17:14Speaker 3: So just the little things like that are going to
- 17:17Speaker 3: rack up for him. So I'm with you on that,
- 17:19Speaker 3: Sean Tucker. Although he is a much better true running
- 17:25Speaker 3: back than Rashad, I'm with you there. Uh not gonna
- 17:28Speaker 3: be playing him against this rushdee. And like I said,
- 17:31Speaker 3: I mean, I love Kyra in the back, I just
- 17:34Speaker 3: don't love I don't love the way they're using him
- 17:38Speaker 3: this year. Right, you remember last year, I mean eighty
- 17:40Speaker 3: eighty eighty five ninety percent of the snaps. But now
- 17:43Speaker 3: Korum's just eating into him so much it almost feel
- 17:47Speaker 3: it almost feel like that they're like alternating series. They're not,
- 17:50Speaker 3: because he's you know, he's out snapping him two to one.
- 17:52Speaker 3: But still he's just taking into some of his some
- 17:54Speaker 3: of his base work, and so, uh so, yeah, I'm
- 17:57Speaker 3: with you, I'm fading these running backs outside of shod White.
- 18:01Speaker 2: I know, I like that there. Going back to Rashad
- 18:04Speaker 2: White's right receiving props. Two and a half is a
- 18:07Speaker 2: reception prop. I think fourteen and a half or somewhere
- 18:10Speaker 2: in that realm is his receiving yards prop there, which
- 18:13Speaker 2: isn't great by any means. But look at the rest
- 18:15Speaker 2: of the team, Kate out and at four, which I
- 18:17Speaker 2: do like him, but Godwin at three, Sterling Shepherd at
- 18:20Speaker 2: two and a half, Ted Johnson at two and a half,
- 18:22Speaker 2: he's right there in line with the rest of the
- 18:23Speaker 2: team as kind of that receiving receiving option there. So
- 18:28Speaker 2: that's kind of the reason I'm in on some Rashad
- 18:30Speaker 2: White at the ownership discount there fair enough price point
- 18:33Speaker 2: at seven, k probably would definitely do a max one
- 18:36Speaker 2: of Sean Tucker and Rashad White just at those price
- 18:38Speaker 2: points seven K and sixty four hundred with these studs
- 18:41Speaker 2: on the slate, it's gonna be contrarian, but I think
- 18:44Speaker 2: that's kind of paying the rake at this point playing
- 18:46Speaker 2: those two guys at these price points together, not so
- 18:50Speaker 2: much playing Korum and Kyron because in a game script
- 18:53Speaker 2: where they kind of just lean on them and maybe
- 18:56Speaker 2: they just beat up this this Bucks team, it could
- 18:59Speaker 2: be both of them. But again, I just don't love
- 19:01Speaker 2: it on either side playing both running backs together. Don't
- 19:04Speaker 2: love the running backs in general very much at all,
- 19:06Speaker 2: which isn't going to be very contraying and take by
- 19:08Speaker 2: any means. But again, thirty to forty percent of the
- 19:10Speaker 2: fields still going to play those guys, and being underweight
- 19:14Speaker 2: on that I think gets you in a different different
- 19:17Speaker 2: section than than than the rest of the field.
- 19:19Speaker 1: Let's jump over and talk receivers. Now.
- 19:22Speaker 2: Obviously got Puka all the way up at eleven eight
- 19:24Speaker 2: big boy price point in the Flex probably is gonna
- 19:28Speaker 2: benefit a little bit with like I talked about, they
- 19:30Speaker 2: should probably run less thirteen personnel with no Tyler Higbee,
- 19:33Speaker 2: which does benefit to Puka Nakua.
- 19:35Speaker 1: But DeVante Adams is right there in target share.
- 19:38Speaker 2: He had a thirty percent target share last week, despite
- 19:41Speaker 2: only catching the one yard touchdown.
- 19:43Speaker 1: He's at nine to eight two thousand dollars cheaper. I
- 19:45Speaker 1: think that goes a long ways.
- 19:47Speaker 2: Ownership gonna be pretty pretty similar in between both of them. Obviously,
- 19:52Speaker 2: Puka is gonna be higher round and then a Buka.
- 19:55Speaker 2: Those are kind of the three headed monster and then
- 19:57Speaker 2: it drops off a cliff. Tes Johnson is coming back
- 19:59Speaker 2: down to earth after kind of acceeding for a little
- 20:02Speaker 2: bit there.
- 20:03Speaker 1: What do you see here from the wide receiver room?
- 20:05Speaker 2: Lots of options on both sides, including a guy like
- 20:07Speaker 2: Zavier Smith who should uh and has seemed to slot
- 20:11Speaker 2: in over Jordan Winnington as the wide receiver three in
- 20:14Speaker 2: this offense.
- 20:16Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, of course you're gonna love the big boys,
- 20:18Speaker 3: Puka Davonte in America. I'm interested to see with Chris
- 20:21Speaker 3: Godwin coming back, he has seventy six hundred dollars. That
- 20:24Speaker 3: is a that is a pretty hefty price tag for
- 20:26Speaker 3: the unknown. I think that hurts the most. I think
- 20:31Speaker 3: that hurts Tes the most because uh, you know he
- 20:35Speaker 3: he you know, both the slot guys right with Sterling
- 20:39Speaker 3: Shepherd and you know, looking back at all game logs
- 20:42Speaker 3: like when when Godwin played the two games, tz was
- 20:46Speaker 3: the guy that Snaps got basically cut in half. So
- 20:49Speaker 3: I mean, even if god would only plays forty percent,
- 20:51Speaker 3: I mean that's forty percent less that theoretically, uh Tez
- 20:57Speaker 3: is gonna be sitting out. So I'm out on tes
- 21:00Speaker 3: I'm out on Sterling Shepherd. I'm probably out on Godlin
- 21:04Speaker 3: even at I like Gotlin, that's just too much.
- 21:07Speaker 1: I don't know.
- 21:07Speaker 3: Dad's like, talk me into some of these other receivers.
- 21:10Speaker 4: You definitely, I mean, I don't see anything outside of
- 21:15Speaker 4: the big boys up top, and then I can't play
- 21:19Speaker 4: those three for Tampa that I just alluded to.
- 21:21Speaker 3: But maybe you see something I don't.
- 21:24Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean Jordan Winnington might be worth a shot
- 21:27Speaker 2: at twenty eight hundred. More so, in like Matt Stafford
- 21:30Speaker 2: Captain bilds, if you go there as a way to
- 21:32Speaker 2: kind of get different and not go where most people
- 21:34Speaker 2: are gonna go in that price for range of that
- 21:36Speaker 2: three K to one of the tight ends in a
- 21:38Speaker 2: Stafford Captain bild So I like Jordan Winnington in a
- 21:41Speaker 2: scenario like that, I think Sterling Shepherd is probably my
- 21:45Speaker 2: favorite in this range. The reason being is I think
- 21:47Speaker 2: he's gonna be the lowest owned of any of these
- 21:49Speaker 2: guys within this range, including the tight ends, and Shepherd
- 21:52Speaker 2: has been involved in this offense obviously the slot guy there,
- 21:57Speaker 2: his snaps are up. Even with Godwin coming back, I
- 22:00Speaker 2: think it'd hurt him a little bit. But again, I
- 22:02Speaker 2: don't think Godwin's gonna come back and play even remotely
- 22:05Speaker 2: close to one hundred percent of the STAPs. You look
- 22:07Speaker 2: at last week Godwin or Shepherd, the last how many
- 22:10Speaker 2: weeks since Godwin's been out sixty percent of the stap
- 22:13Speaker 2: sixty four, sixty five, sixty six percent. Tes Johnson up
- 22:17Speaker 2: at a eighty three percent there, So not sure what
- 22:19Speaker 2: that looks like with with Chris Godman. I think that
- 22:22Speaker 2: really more so affects a guy like Tes Johnson, at
- 22:26Speaker 2: least from looking back earlier in the year when Godwin
- 22:29Speaker 2: was playing and getting eighty to seventy to eighty percent
- 22:32Speaker 2: of the snaps, Tes Johnson was down in the thirty
- 22:34Speaker 2: percent snap range, where Sterling Shepherd was still up in
- 22:37Speaker 2: sixty and forty percent range. So I think overall, Godwin
- 22:41Speaker 2: coming back when he's out there is gonna hurt tes
- 22:44Speaker 2: Johnson in general, And I think Sterling. The Shepherd's gonna
- 22:47Speaker 2: be pretty low owned, definitely involved. Ted Johnson is more
- 22:50Speaker 2: so boombust, more so like Ted Johnson in a in
- 22:53Speaker 2: a game where Poka captain or something like that right
- 22:57Speaker 2: where you need the salary and as someone who who
- 23:00Speaker 2: can speed that game up and get the ball back
- 23:02Speaker 2: to the Rams offense, but more so in Baker captain builds.
- 23:05Speaker 2: I like going in on both of these guys, Ted
- 23:07Speaker 2: Johnson and Sterling Shepard, but I think in general my
- 23:10Speaker 2: favorite would be Sterling Shepherd here.
- 23:12Speaker 1: Not really getting to any of these cheap guys, think
- 23:15Speaker 1: the value is pretty weak.
- 23:16Speaker 2: Jordan Winnington would be the distant third, not playing Chris
- 23:19Speaker 2: Godwin seventy six hundred.
- 23:20Speaker 1: I'm going to take a wait and see approach on him.
- 23:23Speaker 2: Let's jump over to from one muddy position to even
- 23:27Speaker 2: another muddy position.
- 23:30Speaker 1: The tight end position.
- 23:32Speaker 2: I will talk about the tight end Kate Atton, I
- 23:34Speaker 2: think is a really really good play here.
- 23:35Speaker 1: Tight Ends against the Rams have been a thing. They've
- 23:38Speaker 1: had success.
- 23:39Speaker 2: Rams are bottom ten in the league or towards bottom
- 23:42Speaker 2: twenty twelve in the league.
- 23:43Speaker 1: I think they're twentieth or so right now.
- 23:46Speaker 2: Fantasy points given up against the tight end position here,
- 23:49Speaker 2: Kate Atten fifty four hundred.
- 23:50Speaker 1: I think he's a good, good play in general, going
- 23:53Speaker 1: to be owned as such.
- 23:54Speaker 2: And then we got this three headed monster, Kobe Parkinson
- 23:57Speaker 2: twenty four hundred, Davis Allen two k Terrence fergus In
- 24:00Speaker 2: sixteen hundred. We know the Rams have been running a
- 24:02Speaker 2: ton of thirteen personnel. Higbee's on the shelf. I think
- 24:05Speaker 2: Terrence Ferguson is my favorite option of all of them,
- 24:08Speaker 2: just because of the price point. But that's not going
- 24:10Speaker 2: to be sneaky by any means that everybody's favorite option,
- 24:12Speaker 2: and he's the highest projected of any of these guys.
- 24:15Speaker 2: So maybe you flip it and you go to more
- 24:17Speaker 2: Kobe Parkinson, who we've seen succeed in games when Tyler
- 24:22Speaker 2: Higbey's been on the shelf previously.
- 24:24Speaker 1: What do you see here from the tight end position?
- 24:27Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm with you on Kobe played sixty plus percent
- 24:30Speaker 3: of the snaps last week. I think he's going to
- 24:32Speaker 3: be the one that's out there the most. I think
- 24:34Speaker 3: Ferguson does flash the most upside as you kind of
- 24:37Speaker 3: alluded to not going to get to David Allen and then, Yeah,
- 24:41Speaker 3: I'm with you on k Dotton. K Dotton basically the
- 24:44Speaker 3: only tight end that that Tampa has. He's out there
- 24:48Speaker 3: a bunch doing a lot of blocking, you know, playing
- 24:51Speaker 3: you know, almost one hundred percent of the snaps, and
- 24:54Speaker 3: just by that, I'm going to have a lot of
- 24:57Speaker 3: interest in him at only fifty four hundred. You know,
- 25:00Speaker 3: he's kind of slots in there that wide receiver too
- 25:02Speaker 3: that I talked about with Rashad and Kate Otten. To me,
- 25:05Speaker 3: those are the two best options to catch passes outside
- 25:08Speaker 3: of a mecca. So Kate Otten's definitely my number one
- 25:11Speaker 3: tight end and then my favorite and probably probably the
- 25:14Speaker 3: only one I'm getting to in like single entry of three,
- 25:16Speaker 3: Max is going to be Parkinson at two four playing
- 25:19Speaker 3: sixty five percent of the snaps. We know Stafford loves
- 25:22Speaker 3: him around the red zone. He loves all of them
- 25:24Speaker 3: around the red zone. But I'm gonna go with Parkinson
- 25:27Speaker 3: as the lee, as the lead tight end for me
- 25:29Speaker 3: for the Rams.
- 25:30Speaker 1: Yeah. No, I like that a ton there.
- 25:34Speaker 2: You saw even last week Parkinson seventy sixty nine percent
- 25:37Speaker 2: right when Higbee was in there? Did Higby only played
- 25:41Speaker 2: twenty STAPs?
- 25:41Speaker 1: Right? I think he got injured mid game?
- 25:43Speaker 3: Right?
- 25:44Speaker 2: And then you saw Parkinson tick up and snaps obviously there.
- 25:48Speaker 2: But again I mean even with all of them in
- 25:51Speaker 2: every the weeks prior, thirty percent for for Ferguson, sixty
- 25:55Speaker 2: percent for Parkinson, fifty percent for David Allen, fifty percent
- 25:59Speaker 2: for Higbee. So all three of these guys are firmly
- 26:02Speaker 2: in play. They can all slip up and catch a touchdown.
- 26:05Speaker 2: I like them a lot more. Filtering these guys in
- 26:08Speaker 2: Stafford type captain builds right if you're going that route.
- 26:11Speaker 1: But again, all of these guys are sense, makes sense.
- 26:15Speaker 2: I don't mind playing two of them together as well,
- 26:18Speaker 2: just because again we want those studs up there, and
- 26:20Speaker 2: how do you afford those studs? You can play these
- 26:22Speaker 2: guys that are gonna be on the field. The props
- 26:25Speaker 2: would suggest Parkinson is tight end one. Ferguson right, there
- 26:29Speaker 2: is tightened kind of one B in general in terms
- 26:32Speaker 2: of props, and then Davis Allen is a distant a
- 26:35Speaker 2: distant third. But Davis Allen is also going to be
- 26:37Speaker 2: a distant third in terms of ownership as well. And
- 26:40Speaker 2: all it takes is him to slip one past in
- 26:42Speaker 2: the red zone catch a touchdown. I don't know if
- 26:44Speaker 2: if one catch and five yard touchdown. Right five yards,
- 26:48Speaker 2: one catch and a touchdown is enough right right around.
- 26:51Speaker 2: That's six to seven fantasy points. I don't know if
- 26:54Speaker 2: that's gonna be enough at two k but it could
- 26:56Speaker 2: be certainly with the studs we have on the slate.
- 26:59Speaker 2: So I think the tight end position Kayatten is far
- 27:01Speaker 2: and away my favorite option of any of these guys.
- 27:04Speaker 2: Then it would be Parkinson, then Ferguson, then Davis Allen
- 27:06Speaker 2: is kind of how I have it ranked, but it's
- 27:09Speaker 2: really close between the all three of those Rams tight
- 27:11Speaker 2: ends in my opinion. Here, let's talk kickers and defenses.
- 27:14Speaker 2: I definitely like Chase McLoughlin quite a bit here, just
- 27:17Speaker 2: in game environments where I think it's could have the
- 27:19Speaker 2: potential to be back and forth. Chase McLoughlin has shown
- 27:21Speaker 2: a ceiling has been involved. Josh Cardy is out this one,
- 27:26Speaker 2: so Harrison MeVis is going to slot in. Don't love him,
- 27:31Speaker 2: and I would much rather just play the ownership game
- 27:34Speaker 2: with these kickers and go to a Chase McLoughlin. But
- 27:37Speaker 2: forty six hundred is cheap for these kickers. The Rams
- 27:40Speaker 2: defense at forty eight hundred forty four hundred for the Bucks.
- 27:43Speaker 2: Not much inter myself here, but what do you see
- 27:45Speaker 2: from the special teams?
- 27:47Speaker 3: Ah, yes, the thicker kicker, Harrison Meavis, that's his name.
- 27:51Speaker 3: Name's get it know it now, the thicker kicker, the
- 27:54Speaker 3: big body Jared lorenzen s kicker. But yeah, I like
- 27:59Speaker 3: both of these kickers. McLoughlin's good, but also the thicker kicker.
- 28:04Speaker 3: You know they're slated to put up how many points days?
- 28:06Speaker 3: I think it's like twenty semi points, so we know
- 28:09Speaker 3: he's gonna get extra point opportunities, which we don't love,
- 28:11Speaker 3: but they're gonna be down in the red zone if
- 28:13Speaker 3: they stall out. That's good for Harrison. So I like
- 28:17Speaker 3: both kickers, and the only defense I like it's going
- 28:20Speaker 3: to be this Rams defense. I talked about this front
- 28:22Speaker 3: four earlier. They get after it. My boy Nate Landman
- 28:25Speaker 3: just signed a twenty two million dollar extension over the weekend.
- 28:28Speaker 3: They get after it. Their secondary's probably their weakest link,
- 28:32Speaker 3: but they do have some excellent pass rushers with Verse
- 28:36Speaker 3: in company that can get after it. So I like
- 28:38Speaker 3: the Rams defense. I like both kickers, and I'm with you,
- 28:41Speaker 3: I think Chase if you're ranking them like one through four,
- 28:44Speaker 3: I think Chase is going to be the best, the
- 28:46Speaker 3: best of the bunch.
- 28:48Speaker 2: Yeah, I would just probably do something like this. I
- 28:50Speaker 2: would probably just make Chase McLoughlin. I think his production
- 28:53Speaker 2: is light just from his season average in general. I
- 28:56Speaker 2: mean the dudes had twenty plus in the season. He
- 29:00Speaker 2: had twelve plus in like four or five games this season,
- 29:03Speaker 2: whereas mevs Right in his two games hasn't cracked six
- 29:06Speaker 2: Fantasy points.
- 29:06Speaker 1: There.
- 29:07Speaker 2: Obviously it's only a one game sample. I get it, right,
- 29:09Speaker 2: we just need them to do what tonight. But ownership
- 29:12Speaker 2: is going to suggest that Mevas is going to be
- 29:14Speaker 2: up there, and I would rather just take ownership from
- 29:16Speaker 2: him and give more to a guy like Chase McLoughlin
- 29:19Speaker 2: here who you could see them have a big play,
- 29:22Speaker 2: rip a big play right, Ted Johnson gets loose like
- 29:25Speaker 2: Buka comes across the middle, they pick up a chunk
- 29:27Speaker 2: yardage of forty fifty yards and then stall out from
- 29:29Speaker 2: this front seven or front four right like you talked
- 29:32Speaker 2: about from the Rams here.
- 29:34Speaker 1: Very good, third ranked D line in the league.
- 29:37Speaker 2: But again on the other side, the Bucks fourth ranked
- 29:40Speaker 2: O line in football based on what the spread would indicate. Right,
- 29:44Speaker 2: you're expecting more dropbacks, which give more opportunities for the
- 29:48Speaker 2: RAMS defense. So I think that playing the RAMS defense
- 29:50Speaker 2: over the kicker, I think is an interesting route to go,
- 29:53Speaker 2: not going to be heavily exposed to the RAMS defense.
- 29:56Speaker 2: But Baker Mayfield can make mistakes. He runs around like
- 29:58Speaker 2: a headless chicken back there trying to make plays, which
- 30:01Speaker 2: a lot of times he does, but a lot of
- 30:03Speaker 2: times he doesn't, and that'll lead to sacks that will
- 30:05Speaker 2: lead to turnovers interception. So I think for me, Chase
- 30:08Speaker 2: mcgloflin and RAMS defense my two favorite the most expensive
- 30:11Speaker 2: guys here MeVis I'll be probably under the field on
- 30:14Speaker 2: Bucks defense. Whatever I get, I get, but it's not
- 30:17Speaker 2: going to take much to be overweight on them. Everybody
- 30:19Speaker 2: wants to go in on these Rams, Rams, on slots
- 30:23Speaker 2: in general. So I think we broke it down pretty
- 30:26Speaker 2: good here him. Any closing remarks before we get out
- 30:29Speaker 2: of here.
- 30:31Speaker 3: Yeah, nothing else to say, really, you know, good luck
- 30:34Speaker 3: hopefully we get another shipper up there up top. Two
- 30:36Speaker 3: hundred and fifty K is kind of where we're at
- 30:39Speaker 3: at there. So yeah, good luck to everybody to night
- 30:40Speaker 3: in the contest.
- 30:41Speaker 1: Yeah, no, good luck to everyone up there.
- 30:43Speaker 2: I think we broke it down really well, like I
- 30:46Speaker 2: like I talked about, we went pretty adept at at
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