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- 0:00Speaker 1: We were at a restaurant and this is my first
- 0:02Speaker 1: time meeting him. It was it was a friend of
- 0:04Speaker 1: a friend. We were just talking. He had some call
- 0:06Speaker 1: of greens and he just knew I was from la.
- 0:09Speaker 1: He had some CALLI greens. This was in I believe
- 0:11Speaker 1: twenty eighteen, and so he has some collar greens. Like
- 0:14Speaker 1: hey man, you know he's collar greens. Good, but the
- 0:17Speaker 1: ain't no servant spoon call of greens.
- 0:19Speaker 2: And you're like, wait, dear, I like that my family
- 0:23Speaker 2: which is.
- 0:24Speaker 3: The servants spoons. And he was from Georgia.
- 0:28Speaker 2: This is gone to the game.
- 0:30Speaker 4: Leg is weak in every beating rhyme with the president peak.
- 0:34Speaker 4: We're running on bus and the time last time, but
- 0:38Speaker 4: tangerna si while we've been along on to the game,
- 0:42Speaker 4: carrying in the plane goes on the path, but it's
- 0:46Speaker 4: any day rise we run and proclaimed, this is going
- 0:51Speaker 4: to the day.
- 0:52Speaker 5: Lass Sport.
- 0:59Speaker 2: Welcome, Go Owed to Born to the Game.
- 1:01Speaker 6: Produced by Archimedia Group in collaboration with Inflection Network and
- 1:05Speaker 6: distributed through iHeartMedia. This is a space where the children
- 1:09Speaker 6: and families of iconic athletes, entertainers, and cultural figures share
- 1:13Speaker 6: the truth behind legacy, not just what their families did,
- 1:17Speaker 6: but who they were and how their legacy continues. Some
- 1:22Speaker 6: families passed down stories, some passed down traditions. This family
- 1:27Speaker 6: passed down a place the entire city calls home.
- 1:30Speaker 7: For decades, the Serving Spoon in Englewood has been more
- 1:33Speaker 7: than a restaurant. It's been a meeting place, a safe space,
- 1:37Speaker 7: a cultural landmark where generations have gathered over breakfast and conversation.
- 1:42Speaker 6: Founded by their grandfather, Harold East Sparks and recently owned
- 1:47Speaker 6: by their parents, Angie and J. C.
- 1:49Speaker 2: Johnson.
- 1:49Speaker 6: Today the grandchildren carry that legacy forward, not just as owners,
- 1:55Speaker 6: but as stewards of a community institution.
- 1:58Speaker 2: Police is welcome to Born to the Game, Jessica Justice.
- 2:04Speaker 6: I know, right when we saw Evan, our executive producer,
- 2:09Speaker 6: he had on Inglewood sweatpants.
- 2:14Speaker 2: Yeah, I need to cop some of those.
- 2:17Speaker 5: Thank you, join, Thank you for having us you guys.
- 2:21Speaker 2: I'm so excited.
- 2:24Speaker 6: So when we when we thought of Born to the
- 2:26Speaker 6: Game and when we came up with a concept, obviously
- 2:29Speaker 6: it was really about sports kids and entertainment kids, but
- 2:32Speaker 6: we wanted to tap into the culture and tapping into
- 2:38Speaker 6: Inglewood and just you know, organizations and restaurants and people
- 2:42Speaker 6: who had impacts on their communities. And so you guys
- 2:45Speaker 6: are a representation of that. And when people think of
- 2:49Speaker 6: the Serving Spoon, they think of Inglewood and La and
- 2:52Speaker 6: just you guys are the heartbeat of the city. So
- 2:55Speaker 6: we want to get into y'all's story because you guys
- 2:58Speaker 6: have such a huge impact on our not even just
- 3:02Speaker 6: Inglewood's community, the black community. So we want to get
- 3:05Speaker 6: into the origin story your grandfather, how the Serving Spoon
- 3:09Speaker 6: got started.
- 3:10Speaker 2: So just walk us through that.
- 3:14Speaker 4: So so.
- 3:18Speaker 1: Our grandfather, so our mom's dad. They were born in Ohio, Hamilton, Ohio,
- 3:27Speaker 1: That's where they were raised. Our grandparents got a divorce,
- 3:32Speaker 1: My grandma my mom moved to La Inglewood moved to
- 3:37Speaker 1: Inglewood Ye same street, Enterprise Avenue. And at the time
- 3:43Speaker 1: our granddad got remarried, our grandmother was not remarried, and
- 3:46Speaker 1: our granddad wanted to be closer to his baby momm
- 3:56Speaker 1: and so he moved out to He moved out to
- 3:58Speaker 1: l A. He at the time, he was working with
- 4:00Speaker 1: the General Motors. He's working for General Motors, so he
- 4:03Speaker 1: took a uh I leave of absence. He moved to
- 4:06Speaker 1: l A and he started modeling. He started a modeling career.
- 4:12Speaker 5: Pure we got.
- 4:17Speaker 1: Yeah, So he started modeling and gotten some other things.
- 4:20Speaker 1: And he first started a barbecue restaurant that was his
- 4:23Speaker 1: first thing, and that didn't do too well. I think
- 4:26Speaker 1: he closed it after about a year or so. And
- 4:29Speaker 1: then he decided he wanted to start the Serving Spoon
- 4:32Speaker 1: with his with our step grandmother.
- 4:35Speaker 5: Yes, Grandma Joe.
- 4:35Speaker 1: Grandma and shout at Grandma Joe. She's an Inglewood legend
- 4:38Speaker 1: as well. Ing Yeah, principal and instructor. Yeah, so she
- 4:44Speaker 1: folks that went to Inglewood. No, Grandma Joe and Jolly
- 4:47Speaker 1: Blanks is it Banks or Blanks Blanks? And so they
- 4:53Speaker 1: start the restaurant together and he builds the recipes off
- 4:56Speaker 1: of food that he was just raised on in the
- 4:57Speaker 1: neighborhood that his mom made. So he had he it
- 5:00Speaker 1: was mom out to Inglewood, had her approve every recipe
- 5:04Speaker 1: that's on the menu. Yeah, Grandma Mary, Yes, and and yeah,
- 5:08Speaker 1: so here we are. And then he had entertainers, athletes, politicians,
- 5:15Speaker 1: everything in between all came through those doors. That was
- 5:19Speaker 1: that was just like that was the spot, even you know,
- 5:22Speaker 1: dope boys all that.
- 5:23Speaker 5: Not the dope boys Lord, very true.
- 5:26Speaker 8: And then also the name came from all my children. Okay,
- 5:29Speaker 8: So yeah, Grandma Joe loved all my children, and I
- 5:33Speaker 8: remember it now. I used to think it was days
- 5:35Speaker 8: of our lives, but it's all my children because now
- 5:37Speaker 8: I think like all his children have now had the restaurants.
- 5:39Speaker 5: That's how I remember it.
- 5:41Speaker 8: But there was something called the serving spoon, and she
- 5:43Speaker 8: was like, call it the serving spoon and it stuck.
- 5:46Speaker 6: So who gave your grandfather this passion for cooking or
- 5:49Speaker 6: was that just something? Or was he was he a
- 5:50Speaker 6: chef at any point?
- 5:51Speaker 2: Just why a restaurant?
- 5:53Speaker 1: No, no culinary background he really, I really think it
- 5:59Speaker 1: was when he moved to La La so different than Hamilton, Ohio. Okay,
- 6:02Speaker 1: So he wanted a piece of home. He wanted to
- 6:04Speaker 1: he wanted a piece of home where he was now
- 6:06Speaker 1: in Inglewood, and because he had no culinary background whatsoever.
- 6:11Speaker 6: And he just was like, you know what, I'm a model,
- 6:15Speaker 6: I'm a great looking man. Let me just start and
- 6:19Speaker 6: really serve hospitality.
- 6:20Speaker 2: Okay.
- 6:20Speaker 5: And that's been like a consistent thread throughout exist.
- 6:24Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 6:25Speaker 6: So the decision to then now give it to y'all's mother, right,
- 6:30Speaker 6: So how did it get passed down from your grandfather
- 6:33Speaker 6: to your parents.
- 6:35Speaker 3: So you go ahead.
- 6:37Speaker 8: So my grandfather he actually made some different life choices,
- 6:43Speaker 8: but he was getting ready to sell it to another institution,
- 6:46Speaker 8: and that institution did not look like us, and so
- 6:49Speaker 8: our family was actually we were on a cruise and
- 6:52Speaker 8: they got the phone call that he was getting ready
- 6:54Speaker 8: to sell it, like literally about to go into escrow.
- 6:56Speaker 8: And my father called our grandmother, my mom's mom and no,
- 7:04Speaker 8: grandma called dad.
- 7:05Speaker 3: Grandma.
- 7:05Speaker 8: Grandma called Dad and was like, hey, you know, Harold's
- 7:08Speaker 8: about to do this, and he was like, absolutely not.
- 7:11Speaker 8: Go to the bank, take out this money, give him
- 7:13Speaker 8: a check and we'll be back, you know. To to start, yeah, to.
- 7:17Speaker 3: Say this is against my well, this is against our
- 7:21Speaker 3: mother's will.
- 7:23Speaker 5: Will not conversed. So there was no communication.
- 7:27Speaker 3: So my mom don't anything. Our mom don want anything
- 7:28Speaker 3: to do with the restaurant.
- 7:29Speaker 5: Nothing, because she did partially grow up in it.
- 7:31Speaker 9: Right.
- 7:32Speaker 5: It is hard. It is hard.
- 7:35Speaker 8: It is hard, and when you see the back ground
- 7:38Speaker 8: of everything, you're like, I don't want any parts of this, honestly.
- 7:42Speaker 8: But my dad saw a vision, he had a vision
- 7:45Speaker 8: for it, and he went through with it. And so
- 7:47Speaker 8: once we got back from the cruise, the ball started rolling,
- 7:50Speaker 8: and you guys were how old at this point?
- 7:52Speaker 5: I was sixteen?
- 7:56Speaker 3: This is an for yeah, I was like eleven, nah,
- 8:00Speaker 3: hand nine.
- 8:03Speaker 2: So when you guys were in school and stuff, do
- 8:05Speaker 2: you go after the school?
- 8:07Speaker 5: So we would go there in the morning. We would
- 8:10Speaker 5: go there in the morning.
- 8:11Speaker 8: And we would do this even before we our parents
- 8:13Speaker 8: about the restaurant, because we did live on that block also,
- 8:17Speaker 8: so my mom used to be a server there. Our
- 8:20Speaker 8: grandmother was like the manager and servers. So all of
- 8:23Speaker 8: us had like our hand in it at some point
- 8:25Speaker 8: in time. And so we would go up there and
- 8:29Speaker 8: have breakfast. We used to have the little boxes of
- 8:31Speaker 8: cereal cheerio.
- 8:34Speaker 5: And home. I think that's my passion for a home.
- 8:37Speaker 5: That's where it came from, because we always had a.
- 8:41Speaker 8: Bowl or like you know, they had beef sausage or
- 8:45Speaker 8: turkey sausage, and chicken sausage and breakfast sandwiches, grilled cheese,
- 8:49Speaker 8: chicken wings, all the things.
- 8:50Speaker 5: We would have that in the mornings. So yeah, we
- 8:53Speaker 5: would go up there.
- 8:54Speaker 6: So what I want to know is, at what point
- 8:57Speaker 6: did you realize the serving Spoon wasn't just a family's
- 9:00Speaker 6: restaurant or your family's restaurant, but a community's restaurant.
- 9:05Speaker 2: Like, what age were you, what happened?
- 9:07Speaker 6: Was there a specific moment in time where you were like,
- 9:09Speaker 6: this restaurant is bigger.
- 9:11Speaker 5: Than I know my moment.
- 9:14Speaker 2: Okay, you know you're a moment. I don't know.
- 9:16Speaker 3: It was a collection of moments. I think. I think
- 9:21Speaker 3: it was.
- 9:22Speaker 1: I was so we all we all grew up working
- 9:25Speaker 1: in the restaurant, and it was one of those things
- 9:28Speaker 1: that we all kind of It was kind of one
- 9:30Speaker 1: of those things. It's like it's a Saturday morning, you know,
- 9:32Speaker 1: you're have the weekend off of school, and then somebody
- 9:35Speaker 1: calls out of work and then justin just God, Jerry whatever,
- 9:38Speaker 1: get up, come to work, and you hate it kind of,
- 9:41Speaker 1: you know, but then once you get in there, you
- 9:43Speaker 1: get familiar with the customers, the team, the staff, and
- 9:46Speaker 1: they kind of build another family. And so I personally
- 9:51Speaker 1: always had a huge interest in the restaurant. And something
- 9:56Speaker 1: that really stuck out to me it was this was
- 9:59Speaker 1: after this is far after after I had graduated from college.
- 10:03Speaker 1: I went to the military, and at this point I
- 10:05Speaker 1: was living in Florida. I was in Destined, Florida. I
- 10:07Speaker 1: don't know if you guys even heard of that place. Yeah,
- 10:09Speaker 1: so a lot of people don't know about it. But
- 10:11Speaker 1: it's a small little beach town in northwest Florida.
- 10:14Speaker 3: And it was a guy.
- 10:16Speaker 1: We were at a restaurant and this is my first
- 10:19Speaker 1: time meeting him. It was a friend of a friend.
- 10:22Speaker 1: We were just talking. He had some call of Greens
- 10:24Speaker 1: and he just knew I was from LA. He had
- 10:27Speaker 1: some calla Greens. This was in I believe twenty eighteen,
- 10:30Speaker 1: and so he has some colla Greens. Like, man, you
- 10:32Speaker 1: know he's call of Greens. Good, but you know Servants
- 10:35Speaker 1: Spoon Call of Greens, Yeah, you know about the Servants Spoons.
- 10:42Speaker 3: And he was from Georgia.
- 10:44Speaker 1: He was from Georgia and we were in Florida, and
- 10:47Speaker 1: I guess he had spent some time in LA at
- 10:48Speaker 1: one point in his career. He said, Yeah, I'll go
- 10:50Speaker 1: down to LA all the time. And you know, Inglewood's
- 10:52Speaker 1: all loved he I love the call of Greens at
- 10:54Speaker 1: the Spoon.
- 10:55Speaker 3: I'm like, that's crazy.
- 10:56Speaker 1: And so that was just a moment for me personally
- 10:59Speaker 1: where it's like a Wow, this is like big, Like
- 11:01Speaker 1: we're in the opposite side of the country and somebody
- 11:04Speaker 1: has no idea who I am, just knows I'm from
- 11:06Speaker 1: La and he drops the servant.
- 11:08Speaker 2: Spoon and he called it the spoon.
- 11:18Speaker 3: It was really cool, cool, It's really cool, and Jesse
- 11:21Speaker 3: got one for me.
- 11:22Speaker 5: It actually took a little bit longer because it always
- 11:24Speaker 5: felt like home. There was not really like a wherever
- 11:28Speaker 5: we went in La.
- 11:29Speaker 8: It was like you either I either know you from
- 11:30Speaker 8: the spoon, from my high school or my church the spoon, right,
- 11:33Speaker 8: So it was never like, oh, I don't you know
- 11:36Speaker 8: if somebody's like, oh, you look familiar and I'm like okay, one,
- 11:38Speaker 8: two or three like that is for my story. So
- 11:41Speaker 8: it was one of out of the four that existed,
- 11:44Speaker 8: So it was never I think I took it for
- 11:46Speaker 8: granted kind of. But then when COVID hit, this is
- 11:50Speaker 8: when I knew like we were, this was bigger than
- 11:52Speaker 8: us as an as a family unit and everything. When
- 11:56Speaker 8: COVID hit, we were on the verge of closing, and
- 11:59Speaker 8: so my family, my husband, myself and my son at
- 12:04Speaker 8: the time, we took a road trip out to Iowa
- 12:08Speaker 8: to go see his sisters, my sister in law. We
- 12:12Speaker 8: drove back home and stopped in Denver and we saw
- 12:15Speaker 8: Aunt Shirley, which is our grandfather's older, younger, younger sister,
- 12:21Speaker 8: And so she was telling us about, you know, in
- 12:23Speaker 8: New York they were doing something called the GoFundMe. Then
- 12:26Speaker 8: communities were coming together to save the restaurants, and so
- 12:29Speaker 8: I was like, huh. So she was like, your mom
- 12:31Speaker 8: should do a GoFundMe And I was like, Mom, I
- 12:34Speaker 8: surely said you should do a gofund me for the restaurant.
- 12:36Speaker 5: And she kind of like passed it off or whatever.
- 12:39Speaker 5: She was like it would never work.
- 12:40Speaker 1: She did it.
- 12:41Speaker 8: She did it, and she did it in my old room.
- 12:46Speaker 8: She got on the camera and literally poured her heart
- 12:49Speaker 8: out about what was going on. And within twenty four hours,
- 12:53Speaker 8: they were asking for like I think only like fifty
- 12:55Speaker 8: thousand dollars.
- 12:56Speaker 5: I think so fifty seventy five thousand, and.
- 12:59Speaker 8: It was really just to pay the staff, like to
- 13:00Speaker 8: keep the doors open for that next payroll. When I
- 13:04Speaker 8: say within twenty four hours, it was literally like fifty
- 13:07Speaker 8: thousand dollars contributed, and like, I'm getting chilled right now.
- 13:12Speaker 8: It was nothing but the grace of God that that happened.
- 13:16Speaker 5: And then a.
- 13:19Speaker 8: Rams football player's wife saw this and she was like,
- 13:23Speaker 8: we have to contribute, yes, and so they donated a huge, gracious.
- 13:30Speaker 5: Donation to us.
- 13:32Speaker 8: And that was the moment where I was like, oh
- 13:33Speaker 8: my god, we can never it means ever believe because
- 13:37Speaker 8: for them to come up, and you know, our parents
- 13:39Speaker 8: did a lot and our grandfather did a lot as well.
- 13:42Speaker 8: When our parents took it over, they did a lot
- 13:45Speaker 8: externally that you saw because social media wasn't a thing.
- 13:48Speaker 8: Documenting things wasn't necessarily a thing, so a lot was
- 13:51Speaker 8: actually brought to the forefront. And when that happened, I
- 13:53Speaker 8: was like, oh, yeah, this is bigger than us all
- 13:56Speaker 8: the way.
- 13:57Speaker 6: So before we get into who you guys are as individuals,
- 14:01Speaker 6: I want to ask you one more question. What's a
- 14:04Speaker 6: celebrity moment at the serving spoon that you'll never forget?
- 14:07Speaker 2: Or what's.
- 14:09Speaker 6: Some unforgettable faces that have walked through the doors, or
- 14:13Speaker 6: anyone special that you've served, your parents have served.
- 14:17Speaker 3: There's a lot of people that came through those doors.
- 14:19Speaker 2: Your favorite yeah, favorite memory?
- 14:23Speaker 6: Ah?
- 14:23Speaker 1: Man, Well, I guess I don't know. I don't know
- 14:28Speaker 1: if you guys probably do it, but I'm a big
- 14:29Speaker 1: Don Kennedy fan.
- 14:31Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, in LA.
- 14:35Speaker 1: And he actually Dom Kenny actually we grew up on
- 14:40Speaker 1: the same street in La like our childhood home, but
- 14:44Speaker 1: we didn't know him growing up. We were friends with
- 14:46Speaker 1: his younger sister, and so I was I was always
- 14:50Speaker 1: like Dom Kennedy, and like later in life, you know,
- 14:53Speaker 1: realized that he grew up on the same street and
- 14:56Speaker 1: we're friends with his sister, and he's from you know,
- 14:59Speaker 1: La le Mert Park Hills area, and he he names
- 15:03Speaker 1: dropped us and songs before it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
- 15:07Speaker 1: I think it's called Tony Fontana is with him, him
- 15:10Speaker 1: and hit Boy.
- 15:12Speaker 3: Yeah. And so.
- 15:14Speaker 1: I've heard that he's came in there, of course, but
- 15:16Speaker 1: maybe it wasn't that long ago, maybe about two or
- 15:20Speaker 1: three months ago. I saw him there for the first time.
- 15:22Speaker 1: And then now he comes, like I see him a
- 15:24Speaker 1: little more often now. So I got to, you know,
- 15:25Speaker 1: say what's up to him, and you know, talk and
- 15:27Speaker 1: tell him about how he grew up on the same street.
- 15:29Speaker 1: And I still need that Yellow album on, you know, Yes,
- 15:36Speaker 1: but that was one of you know, I guess you say,
- 15:39Speaker 1: one of my favorite celebrities that have came into the
- 15:41Speaker 1: restaurant and I've interacted with person, I would I would think,
- 15:46Speaker 1: but that's there's so many people that came through those doors.
- 15:48Speaker 5: Yeah, there are a lot.
- 15:50Speaker 2: I mean when you walk in, there's a wall of picture.
- 15:53Speaker 5: Yes, yeah, we used to have the wall right when
- 15:56Speaker 5: you walked in, but okay, but.
- 15:58Speaker 3: When you kind of walk we still have the pictures.
- 16:01Speaker 3: The pictures.
- 16:03Speaker 5: For me, one of the coolest people would be Queen Latifa.
- 16:09Speaker 5: I love her.
- 16:10Speaker 2: I've seen her, I've seen her driving her.
- 16:15Speaker 5: Orders. She comes in quite a bit. Loretta Devine comes
- 16:19Speaker 5: in very often. We love her.
- 16:23Speaker 3: Magic magic.
- 16:24Speaker 5: Yeah, so cool.
- 16:27Speaker 6: Now you know, we can't we can't move on into
- 16:29Speaker 6: the next segment until we mentioned Mike Woodson.
- 16:42Speaker 2: The worst place is the serving spo every time. I
- 16:47Speaker 2: don't care.
- 16:48Speaker 6: There's one time he was ubering and he had the
- 16:51Speaker 6: uber driver come sit with him at the serving spook.
- 16:55Speaker 2: I think, yeah, that's the spot.
- 16:58Speaker 3: So mom has coined the phrase straight to the spoon,
- 17:02Speaker 3: straight to this.
- 17:02Speaker 2: I love that.
- 17:03Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 17:04Speaker 2: We were just talking about this the other last week,
- 17:06Speaker 2: Jessica and he pulled up. He pulled up the next time.
- 17:09Speaker 2: That is his spot.
- 17:12Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, so many people. Yeah, Bill Clinton has been
- 17:15Speaker 3: in there.
- 17:16Speaker 6: Uh.
- 17:17Speaker 1: Mayor Bass of course, she comes in, Uh Max, Maxine
- 17:22Speaker 1: walter Water it's a loaded and then shout out to
- 17:30Speaker 1: the l a anthem you by Raphael okay and snoop. Yeah,
- 17:37Speaker 1: that's our like anthem. That's our theme song.
- 17:40Speaker 3: What you say eating at the service? Yeah, he came.
- 17:47Speaker 1: He our whole life, he was coming in so so yeah. Yeah,
- 17:51Speaker 1: it's a lot of people that came for those doors.
- 17:52Speaker 8: And the best part about it is that they're celebrities,
- 17:55Speaker 8: but they're like family. Yeah you know, and it's like
- 17:57Speaker 8: you see you're like, you know, like, oh yeah, it
- 18:01Speaker 8: doesn't matter if you don't. I'm really bad with names
- 18:03Speaker 8: and faces and names, and I'm like, I think, yeah again,
- 18:06Speaker 8: one of the four, I know you from somewhere, and
- 18:08Speaker 8: that's how.
- 18:10Speaker 7: I love it.
- 18:11Speaker 6: Well, let's get into who they are as as individuals.
- 18:15Speaker 6: So firstly, who's who's who's the oldest?
- 18:19Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, so we have a brother too. He's not
- 18:21Speaker 1: involved in the restaurant at the moment.
- 18:25Speaker 5: He's right here.
- 18:27Speaker 1: It's three of us total, but she's the oldest out
- 18:29Speaker 1: of all of us. So what were you like in
- 18:31Speaker 1: the shortest In.
- 18:32Speaker 2: The shortest, Yeah, it's okay, I got the heart of
- 18:38Speaker 2: six you do six more person?
- 18:42Speaker 5: Probably the same? Am I the same as when we
- 18:44Speaker 5: were growing up.
- 18:46Speaker 2: Now, how.
- 18:54Speaker 5: It's pretty much the same.
- 18:56Speaker 8: Always been a nurture, like literally since I was one
- 19:00Speaker 8: or two without even brothers, so I.
- 19:02Speaker 5: Knew I had to be a big sister. Yeah, I'm
- 19:05Speaker 5: pretty direct, he said, bossy.
- 19:09Speaker 8: Yeah, allegedly it works out though I was in HR,
- 19:12Speaker 8: like I think I was designed to be an HR
- 19:14Speaker 8: person and so grew up literally did HR for about
- 19:19Speaker 8: fifteen years and then coming into the restaurant, also still
- 19:22Speaker 8: serving Pope.
- 19:23Speaker 5: So that's always been my little niche I love you, okay, Yeah.
- 19:29Speaker 7: So growing up in the house, what was the dynamic like,
- 19:32Speaker 7: like what is the relationship like between the siblings, Like
- 19:36Speaker 7: who's the bossy one, who's the one that most likely
- 19:39Speaker 7: get in trouble?
- 19:41Speaker 2: It was mom and Dad's favorite, justin the youngest. I
- 19:46Speaker 2: can see that though the youngest.
- 19:47Speaker 3: They still call me the baby.
- 19:49Speaker 7: No matter how, it will always be the baby. And
- 19:52Speaker 7: there's something about the baby get away with murder.
- 19:57Speaker 2: That's not true. I'm a baby. I'm a baby.
- 19:59Speaker 7: But you have a friend, you have there's only two
- 20:01Speaker 7: of you, so there's a difference between you have two
- 20:04Speaker 7: or more.
- 20:05Speaker 2: When there's a beginning of middle and the dynamic there
- 20:10Speaker 2: and the baby always.
- 20:12Speaker 7: Gets away with everything that the first and second you think,
- 20:17Speaker 7: I feel like I O for Jerry okay, okay, okay,
- 20:26Speaker 7: self inflicted there.
- 20:27Speaker 5: Is an asterisk. So I would get in trouble. So
- 20:29Speaker 5: when we grew up, we grew up in the church.
- 20:32Speaker 9: And so.
- 20:34Speaker 8: For my beginning stages of life, we were in the
- 20:37Speaker 8: church like four or five times a week, right, And
- 20:41Speaker 8: so Justin and I are about seven six and a half,
- 20:44Speaker 8: seven years apart, and so by the time he got
- 20:48Speaker 8: to that age of being in the church, I was
- 20:50Speaker 8: like a teenager almost and he wasn't. We weren't in
- 20:53Speaker 8: the church as much.
- 20:54Speaker 3: So that was by the time our parents had bought
- 20:55Speaker 3: the restaurant, right.
- 20:57Speaker 8: And so it kind of changed, right, And so yeah,
- 21:01Speaker 8: there was like a shift. And so my upbringing was
- 21:04Speaker 8: I got more in trouble for things that you wouldn't
- 21:06Speaker 8: think about, like what talks too much in class?
- 21:08Speaker 5: But I got an a But I talked too much
- 21:10Speaker 5: in class. It would be like.
- 21:11Speaker 8: Au U, right, and it's like why so what? But
- 21:14Speaker 8: clearly I meant to talk to people. So I think
- 21:17Speaker 8: that that was why we just didn't know it. And
- 21:19Speaker 8: so with Justin He's super smart. He like he was
- 21:22Speaker 8: like my dad calls him Dollar because he like always
- 21:25Speaker 8: has a dollar on his mind, like he knows how
- 21:27Speaker 8: to execute it, get it all the things.
- 21:29Speaker 5: For me, I'm just like, hey, like this feels good,
- 21:32Speaker 5: let's do it. And then Jerry's like, Okay, we'll do it.
- 21:36Speaker 6: And it might not be all the full out steps thoughts.
- 21:41Speaker 6: Justin you kind of like logically think things thrill. Yes,
- 21:44Speaker 6: Jerry's like whatever you down with, I'm down with. And
- 21:47Speaker 6: You're like the middleman kind of yeah, I'm like I
- 21:50Speaker 6: don't think this.
- 21:51Speaker 8: I might be more cautious, okay, but I'll go for
- 21:54Speaker 8: it like a rebel with a cause, the cause with
- 21:58Speaker 8: a cause. But Justin, I feel like between me and Jerry,
- 22:01Speaker 8: we got into trouble enough to where it was like
- 22:04Speaker 8: when Justin came in those situations like don't do it,
- 22:06Speaker 8: he learned.
- 22:07Speaker 1: So I feel like I had, you know, because I
- 22:11Speaker 1: only had one time to mess up he did. Because
- 22:14Speaker 1: my parents took the approach of like, you know what
- 22:17Speaker 1: not to do, you've seen it, you haven't had examples,
- 22:20Speaker 1: and so I didn't have as many chances of getting caught.
- 22:25Speaker 3: That is the first time I get caught.
- 22:26Speaker 5: Then it's like you knew how to not get caught exactly.
- 22:29Speaker 3: Yea, So I feel like I had it harder. But
- 22:31Speaker 3: you know, that's just my perspective.
- 22:32Speaker 6: I guess for some reason, I feel like you're the
- 22:35Speaker 6: favorite child. I think what I was, I think in
- 22:38Speaker 6: the second place, and I think Jerry might be.
- 22:42Speaker 8: So I don't know about that, but I do know
- 22:44Speaker 8: that from this day and every day prior, I've always
- 22:47Speaker 8: said Justin's the smartest of.
- 22:49Speaker 5: All three of us.
- 22:50Speaker 8: Like he is, he's just mentally different, you know, exactly
- 22:56Speaker 8: in a good way, in a good way.
- 22:57Speaker 5: He has things set up very nicely. But no, I
- 23:00Speaker 5: think I don't think our parents had favorites.
- 23:02Speaker 8: I think they dealt with us all differently, and then
- 23:06Speaker 8: how the stages of life were like they had met.
- 23:10Speaker 8: My mom was twenty so your kid twenty three for Jerry,
- 23:13Speaker 8: twenty eight for Justin. So there's different stages, right, And
- 23:18Speaker 8: I think with that came a different expectation, a different upbringing,
- 23:22Speaker 8: just knowledge, you know, and wisdom of raising children. So
- 23:26Speaker 8: there's the difference there. Jerry is also a really good athlete,
- 23:29Speaker 8: like he's built to it.
- 23:31Speaker 3: He are you totally just Jerry that's a debate, but.
- 23:40Speaker 5: Three six, I know that I'm the shortest, but either
- 23:43Speaker 5: way it goes.
- 23:44Speaker 8: They both played sports, and so Jerry had a lot
- 23:47Speaker 8: of activity in basketball and then football.
- 23:51Speaker 5: Did he play an instrument.
- 23:52Speaker 3: Too, I think for a little bit he played the violin.
- 23:55Speaker 5: Yeah, So it was just all different and I think, yeah,
- 23:58Speaker 5: I think it just every child.
- 24:00Speaker 7: So when you're you're going you're coming up in school
- 24:04Speaker 7: and like in high school, when you're starting to decide
- 24:06Speaker 7: what you want to be for both of you, like
- 24:09Speaker 7: when did the restaurant come in or did you guys
- 24:12Speaker 7: have other aspirations you wanted to do, like that you
- 24:14Speaker 7: wanted to go off and go to other universe, university
- 24:17Speaker 7: or just a kind of blaze your own path, Like
- 24:20Speaker 7: when did it happen that you decided I'm going to
- 24:22Speaker 7: stay home and help around with the restaurant.
- 24:25Speaker 8: Oh, it took a long time for me, but it
- 24:29Speaker 8: took a long time kind of so I wanted to
- 24:32Speaker 8: be in the entertainment industry, but also like in the
- 24:35Speaker 8: business side of it. I didn't want to be at
- 24:37Speaker 8: the forefront of it, but I wanted to like know
- 24:40Speaker 8: I was to say, I wanted to know what was
- 24:43Speaker 8: going on still right, because that's what it felt like
- 24:45Speaker 8: at the restaurant, like we were in the innd but
- 24:47Speaker 8: not enough in the end to where our stuff was
- 24:49Speaker 8: all broadcasted.
- 24:50Speaker 5: So I went to school.
- 24:52Speaker 8: When I started applying for schools, I wanted film and business,
- 24:56Speaker 8: and so if the school had it, I applied to
- 24:58Speaker 8: because I didn't know exactly what direction. So undergrad was
- 25:02Speaker 8: film and then I got my master's in business and HR.
- 25:08Speaker 5: So then once I did that, I worked in HR.
- 25:11Speaker 8: I helped my parents out with HR for about four
- 25:13Speaker 8: or five years or so after graduating, and then had babies,
- 25:18Speaker 8: and then the corporate world was not really where I
- 25:21Speaker 8: saw myself growing.
- 25:23Speaker 5: And then I'll pause in that story so just I
- 25:25Speaker 5: can tell you his Yeah, I don't know, I.
- 25:28Speaker 3: Feel like I was always interested interested in the restaurant.
- 25:30Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe I just I think I always
- 25:33Speaker 1: wanted to be an entrepreneur, Like I was selling candy
- 25:36Speaker 1: growing up, toys my first grade.
- 25:40Speaker 2: You were the kid in like target a lot, like
- 25:43Speaker 2: selling candy.
- 25:48Speaker 3: Well, so the dollar, it was like a dollar, like.
- 25:53Speaker 1: What then how I kind of got introduced to that
- 25:55Speaker 1: was growing up by this time, our to own the
- 26:00Speaker 1: restaurant and so they would shop at restaurant depot back
- 26:04Speaker 1: then it was called Jetro and that's where you could
- 26:07Speaker 1: kind of get everything for wholesale, and so everything like
- 26:10Speaker 1: like a thirty box of candy would be like seventeen dollars,
- 26:15Speaker 1: and so I'll sell, you know, so I make my
- 26:16Speaker 1: promise of the first, my first you know box, My
- 26:18Speaker 1: parents fronted it, and.
- 26:20Speaker 3: Then and then from there, you know, yeah, I would
- 26:23Speaker 3: have yeah, yeah.
- 26:26Speaker 1: I would then continue to buy the candy and you know,
- 26:29Speaker 1: build up money from that, and I would sell toys
- 26:31Speaker 1: and all types of stuff. And so I always was
- 26:33Speaker 1: interested in entrepreneurship. And I think it's just kind of
- 26:36Speaker 1: how I think by the time when I was I
- 26:39Speaker 1: guess conscious enough, our dad was in the stage where
- 26:42Speaker 1: he was always kind of an entrepreneur even though he
- 26:45Speaker 1: worked in corporate and then he, you know, they took
- 26:47Speaker 1: over the restaurant. I think I think that's what kind
- 26:50Speaker 1: of influenced me the most as far as his mindset,
- 26:53Speaker 1: and I just enjoyed it.
- 26:55Speaker 9: And so.
- 26:57Speaker 1: Went to high school and played football, and I really,
- 27:00Speaker 1: I mean I enjoyed football, but my dad, so our
- 27:03Speaker 1: parents paid for her to go to school up until
- 27:05Speaker 1: your senior year.
- 27:08Speaker 3: Four years, yeah, four years. Yeah. Yeah, So they paid
- 27:10Speaker 3: for it four years. Yeah.
- 27:12Speaker 1: So they paid for her education. And our dad told
- 27:15Speaker 1: my brother and I saying, I'm not doing that again.
- 27:17Speaker 1: So y'all gonna have to get a scholarship. Y'all gotta
- 27:20Speaker 1: figure out going to college.
- 27:21Speaker 3: But I am for it.
- 27:22Speaker 9: Yeah.
- 27:23Speaker 1: And so this was probably I was maybe like six
- 27:25Speaker 1: seventh grade and my brother was in high school at
- 27:28Speaker 1: the time. And so my brother he got a scholarship
- 27:30Speaker 1: to UCLA. I played ball. I ended up going to
- 27:33Speaker 1: the Air Force Academy. So I played football there for
- 27:36Speaker 1: a couple of years, and then I graduated in twenty seventeen.
- 27:40Speaker 1: And so the thing about the academy is one's already
- 27:43Speaker 1: extremely difficult to make it to the pros in any sport,
- 27:46Speaker 1: but then at the academy it's even harder because you
- 27:48Speaker 1: have the military commitment and litany of other things. And
- 27:54Speaker 1: so I end up graduating from the academy. And while
- 27:57Speaker 1: I was there, I majored in business, but I had
- 27:59Speaker 1: a five year commitment. But when I graduated, I remember
- 28:04Speaker 1: coming to not everybody as a whole, but I went
- 28:06Speaker 1: to everybody individually. I went to my parents, individually, talked
- 28:10Speaker 1: to Mom, talked to Dad. I even talked to my
- 28:12Speaker 1: grandparents individually, saying that I was interested in buying the restaurant,
- 28:16Speaker 1: taking it over, and retiring them. But they kept stiff
- 28:19Speaker 1: arming me. They were like, yeah, no, you don't want
- 28:21Speaker 1: anything to do with this, and they just weren't ready yet.
- 28:24Speaker 1: They just weren't ready yet. And I knew I had
- 28:25Speaker 1: a five year commitment, so I was trying to kind
- 28:27Speaker 1: of structure my career around coming back home.
- 28:30Speaker 3: But they were telling me no. They were like no.
- 28:32Speaker 1: So I was like, okay, so you tabled it for
- 28:34Speaker 1: a little while. And then, like Jessica said earlier, COVID happened.
- 28:38Speaker 1: And yes, they raised a lot of money and the
- 28:42Speaker 1: community still behind them, but it took a huge toll
- 28:45Speaker 1: on them personally and mentally and professionally as well, and
- 28:50Speaker 1: so they were ready to be done with it. And
- 28:53Speaker 1: so at this point, Jessica was in a different stage
- 28:55Speaker 1: in her life. She had she was having her second kid,
- 29:00Speaker 1: You're you're pregnant with Kayden, and and I was kind
- 29:04Speaker 1: of on the tail end of my commitment in the military,
- 29:07Speaker 1: and so then revisited it, starting.
- 29:10Speaker 2: To align timing.
- 29:13Speaker 5: They actually kicked me out of this conversation.
- 29:15Speaker 3: So it was gonna be my brother at first, because
- 29:19Speaker 3: I was.
- 29:20Speaker 5: Very adamant I do not want to be She was
- 29:22Speaker 5: interested in it.
- 29:22Speaker 3: You feel like your mom.
- 29:24Speaker 2: So that's so that's what happened.
- 29:25Speaker 5: Like so for me, I did not to be honest,
- 29:29Speaker 5: I did not want to be in the business with
- 29:31Speaker 5: my parents.
- 29:32Speaker 2: You wanted to start if you were want to get
- 29:34Speaker 2: into I was like, we something to.
- 29:37Speaker 8: Work that well, okay, because of just how we are
- 29:40Speaker 8: is you know, operating operating. But then Justin was like, well,
- 29:45Speaker 8: me and Jerry you want to buy the restaurant. I
- 29:46Speaker 8: said we Why don't you ask me? And he was like,
- 29:49Speaker 8: because you said you didn't want it? And I'm like, well,
- 29:52Speaker 8: I said I didn't want it with him, I could
- 29:54Speaker 8: do it with y'all. And so we came together as
- 29:57Speaker 8: a family and had a conversation with our parents and all,
- 30:04Speaker 8: you know, all three of us or whatever talked about
- 30:05Speaker 8: the finances and everything, and it was like, okay, I
- 30:09Speaker 8: think this is something we could do.
- 30:11Speaker 5: Try, you know, divvy it up three ways or whatever.
- 30:15Speaker 5: Talked to my husband and he.
- 30:16Speaker 8: Was like, well, you seem like you have your mind
- 30:18Speaker 8: made up and so he supported it, and then Jerry
- 30:23Speaker 8: ended up kind of backing out of it when it
- 30:26Speaker 8: came time to actually distribute things and start putting things
- 30:29Speaker 8: in motion. And I was pregnant with Kaden, because I
- 30:33Speaker 8: said I wasn't going to do anything until after my
- 30:35Speaker 8: maternity leaf. But but yeah, so that changed it up,
- 30:39Speaker 8: and Justin and I talked and we formed our business
- 30:42Speaker 8: and got all the paperwork and everything together.
- 30:46Speaker 1: And yeah, and it was a little tough because I
- 30:48Speaker 1: was still in the military at the time.
- 30:50Speaker 2: Thank you for your service.
- 30:51Speaker 5: Thank you for your service.
- 30:56Speaker 2: I think we need to do better as a.
- 31:01Speaker 5: Better like he's a better Yeah I am.
- 31:05Speaker 3: Yeah, but at the time I was still in the military.
- 31:08Speaker 1: And so we purchased the restaurant officially in June of
- 31:11Speaker 1: twenty twenty two, and my commitment wasn't over until technically
- 31:16Speaker 1: July of twenty twenty three, but I moved out. I
- 31:18Speaker 1: ended up moving out to la in February of twenty
- 31:20Speaker 1: twenty three, and so for that seven months or so,
- 31:24Speaker 1: Jessica was here holding it down soo.
- 31:26Speaker 5: Doing what she does.
- 31:27Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Boston with a baby on.
- 31:31Speaker 5: You know, event.
- 31:32Speaker 6: But I do want to get into that we're going
- 31:34Speaker 6: to have a segment where you guys just talk about
- 31:36Speaker 6: the misconceptions around owning and just how that process was
- 31:40Speaker 6: from like passing just getting the torch pass essentially to
- 31:44Speaker 6: you guys.
- 31:45Speaker 2: So I do want to ask this before we move on.
- 31:47Speaker 7: So you guys have done this as a family Okay,
- 31:50Speaker 7: you've you've started this whole business since you guys were smaller.
- 31:53Speaker 2: Would you have done it another way?
- 31:55Speaker 7: Like so if there was if there was no family business,
- 31:58Speaker 7: would you have always wanted to become restauranteur or entrepreneur
- 32:01Speaker 7: in another way? Or is it just is your mind
- 32:05Speaker 7: you know, focused on the family business. Oh and you too,
- 32:08Speaker 7: both of you, like in your own perspective, just industries
- 32:13Speaker 7: that you wanted to go into. Is it the serving
- 32:15Speaker 7: spoon that what you wanted to manage or is it
- 32:18Speaker 7: other entities, other business?
- 32:22Speaker 5: It could be other entities.
- 32:24Speaker 8: I think for me with the serving spoon, it's a
- 32:26Speaker 8: great platform to really excel anywhere in life because you
- 32:30Speaker 8: have so many different variations of people, experiences, problem solving,
- 32:36Speaker 8: thinking on your feed, customer service, hospitality, just having that
- 32:41Speaker 8: relationship and engagement piece.
- 32:43Speaker 5: And I think if you can succeed there, you can
- 32:46Speaker 5: really succeed anymore.
- 32:47Speaker 1: So yeah, and I think I always would have been
- 32:50Speaker 1: in some entrepreneur capacity in whatever. That's just kind of
- 32:55Speaker 1: how my mind always worked. I've always kind of been
- 32:58Speaker 1: interested in real estate and I don't know, and that's
- 33:02Speaker 1: still you know, on the table in some capacity. But uh,
- 33:06Speaker 1: I don't know, if I mean, I don't think I
- 33:08Speaker 1: would have been owning a restaurant because the restaurant business
- 33:11Speaker 1: is extremely tough, and I honestly advise against it.
- 33:15Speaker 3: You're going to get into it, Honestly advise against.
- 33:18Speaker 1: It for just somebody that you know, maybe he loves
- 33:19Speaker 1: food or wants to be there's a chef. There's a
- 33:22Speaker 1: lot of things that you don't really know or get to,
- 33:26Speaker 1: you know, figure out until you're actually in it. But yeah, yeah,
- 33:30Speaker 1: I think I always would have kind of went the
- 33:32Speaker 1: entrepreneur route in some capacity for sure, just because that's kind.
- 33:35Speaker 3: Of who I am at my core.
- 33:38Speaker 2: Obviously, Bird.
- 33:46Speaker 3: Until about ninth grade, instructors started hating on me.
- 33:50Speaker 5: And I hate.
- 33:54Speaker 3: The Reselle license.
- 33:57Speaker 2: I said, hate when people did.
- 34:03Speaker 3: Machines in the student store, so I was taking money away.
- 34:06Speaker 2: From them and so no, but you're doing something positive,
- 34:09Speaker 2: you're out here hustling. I just hate that one, and
- 34:12Speaker 2: it's legal. We got to encourage the young kids to
- 34:17Speaker 2: do that. But good for you. Yes, yes, so let's say,
- 34:21Speaker 2: let's play game, and then we'll get into.
- 34:24Speaker 6: The cultural impact of the restaurant and just you guys
- 34:28Speaker 6: being owners and the challenges and the pressure you guys
- 34:32Speaker 6: face being the new face of the spoon. Okay, let's
- 34:36Speaker 6: play some game. Let's do it, all right, So let's
- 34:38Speaker 6: play some games. Let's hand Jessic color white board and
- 34:43Speaker 6: Tamara is going.
- 34:44Speaker 5: To ask.
- 34:47Speaker 6: Some questions and you guys will write the answers on
- 34:51Speaker 6: the clipboard and share with us your answers.
- 34:57Speaker 3: Interesting.
- 34:57Speaker 6: I'm gonna start with these, yah, start with those because
- 35:00Speaker 6: I want to play the other games.
- 35:00Speaker 2: I love playing games, all right, So here we go.
- 35:05Speaker 2: Who was the tattletale growing up?
- 35:07Speaker 5: Mm hmmm, I think I know this one.
- 35:15Speaker 3: Camera herself.
- 35:22Speaker 5: Would make them tell on themselves.
- 35:25Speaker 6: They would have options, But Jessica, you, being the middle
- 35:28Speaker 6: of two boys, I just think it's so iconic because
- 35:31Speaker 6: it's just yeah, the girl of the family, child is
- 35:35Speaker 6: always yeah.
- 35:36Speaker 5: We know, I'm the oldest, said, you know, they were
- 35:45Speaker 5: telling themselves.
- 35:46Speaker 2: But also I would like to also say that the
- 35:48Speaker 2: middle children are exceptional. So Jerry, they are exception all right?
- 35:56Speaker 2: Who got in trouble more?
- 35:58Speaker 5: Out of us two?
- 36:00Speaker 3: The three of you?
- 36:02Speaker 2: Yeah, brother Jerry is brother. Yes, today.
- 36:11Speaker 5: Jerry is watching like I'm not well, got different ways.
- 36:19Speaker 7: Okay, so you said you just said it? Who got
- 36:21Speaker 7: away with more? I know it was justin It was
- 36:25Speaker 7: and justin just go.
- 36:26Speaker 2: A hand stay.
- 36:28Speaker 5: Just said that the baby? Yes would Yes, that's I
- 36:34Speaker 5: started telling them myself.
- 36:35Speaker 7: Yes, so it says who was mom's most favorite? But
- 36:38Speaker 7: I'm going to say who could mom or dad count
- 36:40Speaker 7: on the most? Who could they count on?
- 36:44Speaker 2: Who would they?
- 36:46Speaker 6: Yeah?
- 36:47Speaker 5: Her, It's always the girl, definitely.
- 36:51Speaker 2: Yes, I mean Jessica's just the next mom, I believe.
- 36:55Speaker 2: Just put him in shady.
- 37:01Speaker 3: Take care of them, my goodness.
- 37:05Speaker 6: Let's see and okay we'll move it to the next part. Yeah, okay,
- 37:09Speaker 6: so can I answer these to keep? I want I
- 37:12Speaker 6: want to participate in this one. Go ahead, okay, so
- 37:15Speaker 6: ask ahead?
- 37:16Speaker 2: Okay, breakfast rush or closing time? Which do you prefer?
- 37:22Speaker 2: Which do you prefer? Closing time?
- 37:24Speaker 9: Oh?
- 37:24Speaker 2: Sorry, this this game is called this or that?
- 37:26Speaker 5: Yes, this we talk?
- 37:28Speaker 7: You can talk this one, Yeah, you can talk this one.
- 37:30Speaker 7: Do both because remember we have our listeners. Yes, okay, yeah,
- 37:34Speaker 7: so breakfast rush or closing.
- 37:36Speaker 3: Time rush, Yeah, I say the rush to man when
- 37:39Speaker 3: people come.
- 37:39Speaker 2: In like ten minutes too. Yeah, I'll just take a muffin.
- 37:46Speaker 8: Yeah, I tell them you're more than welcome to eat,
- 37:48Speaker 8: but you gotta go after the music is okay.
- 37:50Speaker 2: Oh so what time is the music cut off?
- 37:54Speaker 5: Okay, thirty minutes after closing.
- 37:57Speaker 2: That's understanding.
- 37:58Speaker 5: That's understanding.
- 37:59Speaker 1: Yeah, I prefer to breakfast our stuff with closing time.
- 38:01Speaker 1: You know, we try to because we closed early hours
- 38:06Speaker 1: eight am eight am to two pm every day and
- 38:09Speaker 1: after All Star weekend we so for All Star wee
- 38:13Speaker 1: can we extended our hours quite a bit. We had
- 38:16Speaker 1: closed at five pm Thursday through Saturday, and then on Sunday.
- 38:21Speaker 3: We were open from eight am to two am. I
- 38:23Speaker 3: know that was which not really recommend that.
- 38:27Speaker 1: It was a lot, but we did notice that that
- 38:30Speaker 1: kind of like the five pm closing, we were able
- 38:32Speaker 1: to capture a lot more customers. And so I don't
- 38:35Speaker 1: know if we want to close at five, but we
- 38:37Speaker 1: are considering extended our hours weekends weekend.
- 38:42Speaker 2: So what is it about breakfast? I'm just intrigued. Why
- 38:45Speaker 2: you chose breakfast?
- 38:47Speaker 8: It chose used It started before we did.
- 38:51Speaker 1: Yeah, but really so our granddad he at the time,
- 38:53Speaker 1: he was working for General Motors, and he had a
- 38:55Speaker 1: typical like nine to three or eight to three ship
- 39:01Speaker 1: well I think it was seven to three, yeah, seven
- 39:04Speaker 1: to three, and so those are the original hours, and
- 39:08Speaker 1: so he wanted something to he basically wanted to replicate
- 39:11Speaker 1: his shifts when he worked the General Motor General Motors.
- 39:15Speaker 1: And then we just kind of stayed consistent with that,
- 39:17Speaker 1: and our parents stay kind of condensed the hours from
- 39:19Speaker 1: eight to two because that's when, like, you know, you
- 39:22Speaker 1: can kind of maximize.
- 39:24Speaker 8: Really, when COVID hit, that's when the hours changed because
- 39:26Speaker 8: our hours were different. We have Monday through Friday hours,
- 39:29Speaker 8: and we had Saturday hours and we had Sunday hours.
- 39:31Speaker 8: And then once COVID hit, it was like all the
- 39:33Speaker 8: same every day. And I think that makes it easier
- 39:36Speaker 8: just to be like, oh, if you come at this day,
- 39:38Speaker 8: it just makes it easier just.
- 39:40Speaker 2: Congreg Okay, grits with or without sugar.
- 39:49Speaker 5: Grits with brown sugar. Ooh, it's a game change.
- 39:53Speaker 2: But I'm gonna say I'm not a grits. Girl, really,
- 40:00Speaker 2: I can't do the texture.
- 40:02Speaker 7: Listen, my parents are from the South, and if I
- 40:04Speaker 7: put sugar in my grits, but what's wrong with sugar.
- 40:08Speaker 5: And the grits? You know what on the box it
- 40:10Speaker 5: does say sugar.
- 40:11Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I'm saying around it.
- 40:14Speaker 5: So I'm following instructions. You're like, I'm just doing what
- 40:18Speaker 5: But I like shrimp and grits. Yes, I can do.
- 40:21Speaker 8: If it's like a barbecue type of shrimp, I can
- 40:23Speaker 8: do it. But if it's just grits, yeah.
- 40:26Speaker 2: Okay, sugar.
- 40:27Speaker 6: So eggs with or without cheese without this is very serious.
- 40:30Speaker 6: My dad has to have them soft with cheese. I'm
- 40:33Speaker 6: either okay, I'm both.
- 40:35Speaker 2: I think I'm there. I talk about like it is
- 40:37Speaker 2: a clean egg, you know, just salt, pepper, that's it.
- 40:38Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 40:39Speaker 2: But soft egg or hard egg? Does it matter to you?
- 40:42Speaker 3: Medium?
- 40:43Speaker 2: Okay?
- 40:47Speaker 5: And our eggs are fluffy.
- 40:49Speaker 8: So when people my mom is a fluffy I want
- 40:51Speaker 8: a soft egg, I'm like, do you want it runny
- 40:53Speaker 8: or you just don't want? Can do running hard and so,
- 40:58Speaker 8: but if you say soft scrambles soft our restaurant, you're
- 41:00Speaker 8: gonna get it running because our eggs naturally come or
- 41:03Speaker 8: automatically come soft, like nice and fluffy.
- 41:07Speaker 1: Some some people want like we always we add that
- 41:09Speaker 1: disclaimer it's gonna be running, and some people say, yes,
- 41:12Speaker 1: I want it.
- 41:12Speaker 5: They do like to dip their toy.
- 41:14Speaker 3: They like to mix in the toast and the grits
- 41:16Speaker 3: and the it's.
- 41:17Speaker 2: A whole science.
- 41:20Speaker 7: I'm not a foodie like that. It's a whole experience. Okay,
- 41:24Speaker 7: toastter hash browns, this is very serious to toast.
- 41:29Speaker 2: I'm a toast girl.
- 41:30Speaker 8: We don't do hash browns though, with peppers onions, and
- 41:38Speaker 8: I'm gonna get potatoes, not hashbrowns.
- 41:42Speaker 7: Which is your favorite regular customer or first timer?
- 41:45Speaker 2: Oh that's.
- 41:50Speaker 5: Said this or that?
- 41:51Speaker 3: Yeah?
- 41:53Speaker 2: She said he dare you?
- 41:55Speaker 4: You know what?
- 41:55Speaker 8: A regular customer? Because every time I get a first time,
- 41:58Speaker 8: I say it won't be your last time.
- 42:00Speaker 3: Mmmm, I'll say I'll say first time because then they
- 42:04Speaker 3: become a regular.
- 42:05Speaker 2: Okay, so.
- 42:08Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, And it's always cool to kind of walk
- 42:11Speaker 1: people through the story and the menu and because people
- 42:16Speaker 1: hear about us and either they're from out of town
- 42:18Speaker 1: or they sometimes people just la is kind of spread.
- 42:21Speaker 1: Somebody lives to say, live in Hollywood and they never go,
- 42:25Speaker 1: you know, past the ten, so they never come down
- 42:27Speaker 1: to Inglewood.
- 42:28Speaker 3: So they have grew up.
- 42:29Speaker 1: Around here, never get opportunity to come because we close
- 42:31Speaker 1: so early, or it's the wait is long, or what
- 42:34Speaker 1: however you want to call it. And so when it's
- 42:36Speaker 1: their first time, it's like okay, yeah, like then you know,
- 42:38Speaker 1: tell other people.
- 42:39Speaker 3: Regulars get comfortable. They get comfortable.
- 42:42Speaker 5: And I love our regulars, yeah, I do to you
- 42:44Speaker 5: love the Mike Woods.
- 42:46Speaker 9: I do.
- 42:47Speaker 5: They make me smile. And then when they haven't been
- 42:49Speaker 5: there while, I'm like, where you been?
- 42:50Speaker 1: Right?
- 42:51Speaker 3: Are you?
- 42:51Speaker 5: Okay?
- 42:52Speaker 3: Yeah?
- 42:52Speaker 5: What's going on?
- 42:53Speaker 2: So this one isn't on here?
- 42:54Speaker 7: But I'm gonna stead because you already talked about early
- 42:56Speaker 7: mornings or late afternoon. Yeah, so keep the men you
- 43:00Speaker 7: the same, or let's keep it moving.
- 43:02Speaker 2: And change it.
- 43:06Speaker 5: I'm gonna say the same, okaye.
- 43:10Speaker 1: I agree, I agree, I agree, I agree, I think.
- 43:13Speaker 1: I mean, we we have made some slight variations. Something
- 43:17Speaker 1: that was extremely controversial. So the menu people that have
- 43:21Speaker 1: gone to the service spoom for years, they know about
- 43:23Speaker 1: the names on the menu, and once we took it over,
- 43:28Speaker 1: we took the names off the menu, and that.
- 43:31Speaker 3: Was very controversial.
- 43:32Speaker 2: What do you mean you took the names off the menu?
- 43:34Speaker 5: We literally removed all names from.
- 43:37Speaker 1: The menu and change. We we created own like names,
- 43:39Speaker 1: but not like the names on the men were actual people.
- 43:43Speaker 1: We had like the Angie and.
- 43:47Speaker 5: Justin Angie number one.
- 43:49Speaker 6: So what was the Angie number one? For examples like eggs, potatoeska.
- 43:53Speaker 8: Cakes, bacon and eggs, but it was like two pancakes,
- 43:57Speaker 8: half side.
- 43:58Speaker 1: Of meat, and it was a really complicated medeu. Yeah,
- 44:03Speaker 1: and so we wanted to we wanted to simplify it.
- 44:06Speaker 5: But then when we started to simplify.
- 44:08Speaker 3: Yeah, and then we.
- 44:08Speaker 1: Started simplifying it, we were like, okay, we can now
- 44:12Speaker 1: she has kids, Now I have a wife, and like
- 44:15Speaker 1: gonna put my wife, and it's like it gets.
- 44:17Speaker 6: Very You wanted a more neutral slate. Yeah, there was
- 44:21Speaker 6: a pressure to continue.
- 44:23Speaker 5: Because our family and friends are territorial.
- 44:26Speaker 8: He has a friend who's still really upset that we
- 44:28Speaker 8: took the name off because when he found out we
- 44:30Speaker 8: bought it, he just knew his name was going on
- 44:32Speaker 8: the men. Yea, So people were definitely upset. And and
- 44:43Speaker 8: what I tell him now is like it's a secret menu.
- 44:45Speaker 8: If you know the name, you know what's up. Like
- 44:46Speaker 8: I know the name too, you know, so so is.
- 44:48Speaker 2: It just it was just because that's what always was.
- 44:51Speaker 5: That was the upset or what that was? Yeah, that
- 44:53Speaker 5: was upset. I want the Jerry.
- 44:56Speaker 4: We don't have.
- 45:00Speaker 5: Signature spoon is the Jerry now?
- 45:01Speaker 2: Okay?
- 45:02Speaker 5: Right, so pancakes and chicken wings.
- 45:05Speaker 2: But I do think it's easier to do it that
- 45:07Speaker 2: way so that no one's feelings get hurt.
- 45:10Speaker 3: Ye, honestly, personally, I kind of you miss it. I
- 45:13Speaker 3: kind of miss it.
- 45:15Speaker 5: Justin you guys do it nice.
- 45:18Speaker 7: Yeah, venue and put the name back on during your whatever,
- 45:22Speaker 7: your next Millstone anniversary.
- 45:24Speaker 3: Yeah, people be happy.
- 45:27Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 45:28Speaker 7: Isn't that something though that you get so attached. Yeah,
- 45:32Speaker 7: you guys, you guys have done and I think so simple.
- 45:35Speaker 2: It doesn't change the food.
- 45:36Speaker 5: It didn't change anything. And really it was really like
- 45:39Speaker 5: they could make what they wanted to have.
- 45:41Speaker 8: Like we didn't have any breakfast item or thing on
- 45:44Speaker 8: the menu to where you could say, I want turkey
- 45:46Speaker 8: chops and French toasts.
- 45:47Speaker 5: Right, that was not a name.
- 45:49Speaker 8: But we didn't want to create like fifty thousand names
- 45:52Speaker 8: to say, okay, turkey chops and French toast, Turkey chops
- 45:55Speaker 8: and pancakes.
- 45:56Speaker 3: You of build your own now.
- 45:58Speaker 6: I think this perfectly segued into us talking about the
- 46:01Speaker 6: cultural impact that the serving has had on the community.
- 46:07Speaker 6: You guys grew up in Englewood. Talk about just what
- 46:11Speaker 6: has changed in your community since the time you were.
- 46:14Speaker 1: Born to now a lot, Yeah, Inglewood is now a
- 46:20Speaker 1: destination city and so yeah into a dome, so far stadium.
- 46:26Speaker 1: The form is kind of revited. It's not the Great
- 46:28Speaker 1: Western form anymore. It's the Kia form.
- 46:31Speaker 3: Yeah, what else?
- 46:33Speaker 1: They have a YouTube theater and then just a lot
- 46:36Speaker 1: has been attracted to the city and a lot of
- 46:40Speaker 1: things have left though, too, which has been kind of unfortunately,
- 46:43Speaker 1: not the kind of it has been very unfortunate. A
- 46:44Speaker 1: lot of people have left, either through being priced out
- 46:48Speaker 1: or or just not really being a destination spot. So
- 46:54Speaker 1: we have been very blessed to be able to capitalize
- 46:59Speaker 1: off of everything that came to Inglewood. We try to
- 47:03Speaker 1: stay connected with the city officials and the updates that
- 47:06Speaker 1: are coming, and so for us, it is really it's
- 47:11Speaker 1: a blessing that Inglewood has became this. But we want
- 47:14Speaker 1: to make sure that Inglewood does not forget about us
- 47:17Speaker 1: because we are one of the few businesses left in
- 47:19Speaker 1: Inglewood that have been there since kind of the inception,
- 47:23Speaker 1: and so yeah, yeah, you have something to.
- 47:25Speaker 5: Add to that, he said, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's the same.
- 47:28Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 47:29Speaker 6: So when someone says to you, well, like I've been
- 47:30Speaker 6: coming here for twenty years and this is my safe place,
- 47:34Speaker 6: like this is where I go to just hang out
- 47:37Speaker 6: in the city, what does that mean to you guys?
- 47:39Speaker 6: And now that you guys, excuse me, now that you
- 47:42Speaker 6: guys are owners, what does that mean to you guys?
- 47:45Speaker 6: Continuing that, I guess tradition and just making sure that
- 47:49Speaker 6: you preserve that feeling for your community.
- 47:53Speaker 8: I think you said preservation is the biggest piece. So
- 47:56Speaker 8: for me, when somebody tells me like this is my
- 47:59Speaker 8: favorite spot, you know, this is my dad's favorite spot
- 48:01Speaker 8: or my granddad's favorite spot, and you know I haven't
- 48:03Speaker 8: been here since they passed away, or you know, I
- 48:06Speaker 8: just went to go to their grave side and whatever.
- 48:08Speaker 5: I take those things so seriously.
- 48:11Speaker 8: It's an honor and a privilege when you choose to
- 48:14Speaker 8: celebrate with us, when you choose to mourn with us,
- 48:18Speaker 8: when you choose to have comfort with us, and you
- 48:20Speaker 8: choose to come here to feel that right like you
- 48:23Speaker 8: had a long day and you walk through fourteen oh
- 48:25Speaker 8: three and you're like, I feel better.
- 48:28Speaker 5: You know, you feel better when you leave than when
- 48:31Speaker 5: you did when you came in.
- 48:32Speaker 8: And so for me, I take it as a responsibility
- 48:35Speaker 8: with our team to make sure like this is the
- 48:38Speaker 8: expectation when they walk in these doors, that they feel
- 48:41Speaker 8: better when they leave. And I of course know it's
- 48:45Speaker 8: not always perfect, but I don't ever want somebody to
- 48:47Speaker 8: feel like they just ignored me. I was not a
- 48:50Speaker 8: valuable person, I was not seen, I was not hurt.
- 48:54Speaker 8: It doesn't mean that the customer is always right, but
- 48:56Speaker 8: it does mean that your life is important. So if
- 49:00Speaker 8: we can continue to preserve that feeling, because the world
- 49:03Speaker 8: is hard, and even with our staff, like we tell them,
- 49:06Speaker 8: the world is hard outside these doors when you walk in,
- 49:09Speaker 8: even for your shift, you turn on the music, you
- 49:11Speaker 8: smell good food, you get good food, you have laughter,
- 49:13Speaker 8: you see everybody having these encounters. Enjoy me that thing
- 49:19Speaker 8: that changes somebody else's day, So it means a lot.
- 49:22Speaker 7: So while you're on that, I want to talk about
- 49:24Speaker 7: culture within the restaurant. So we're I mean the culture
- 49:26Speaker 7: of Englewood. But when you work for an establishment like
- 49:29Speaker 7: the spoon, you have to learn the culture.
- 49:32Speaker 2: So how do you do that?
- 49:33Speaker 7: How do you train and keep that spirit of service
- 49:37Speaker 7: throughout because customer service can kill your establishment, So how
- 49:41Speaker 7: do you do that?
- 49:46Speaker 1: Question is because culture is one of those things that
- 49:50Speaker 1: you kind of build culture off of things that you
- 49:53Speaker 1: don't accept exactly, okay, And so you know, you bring
- 49:55Speaker 1: people in, people that either are from out of town
- 49:58Speaker 1: or may not even be familiar with the serving spoon,
- 50:00Speaker 1: and so it's a process. And so as time goes on,
- 50:03Speaker 1: you say, hey, we don't like in a kitchen, most kitchens,
- 50:08Speaker 1: cooks cuss like sailors. We are very adamant about hey,
- 50:12Speaker 1: like language, we don't use hr mom, you know, and
- 50:17Speaker 1: you know, I was the military, so I'm kind of
- 50:19Speaker 1: used to it. But at the same time, I understand
- 50:21Speaker 1: that the culture of the servant spoon, we are still
- 50:22Speaker 1: a family environment and we're not going to talk to
- 50:25Speaker 1: each other like that, and we're definitely not going to
- 50:27Speaker 1: talk to.
- 50:27Speaker 3: The customers like that.
- 50:29Speaker 1: So that's just a small example of how we try
- 50:32Speaker 1: our best to influence the culture of the restaurant. And
- 50:35Speaker 1: then even things like you know, like justic saying how
- 50:38Speaker 1: we greet the customers and the music that we play.
- 50:42Speaker 3: It's not like you know, you're in La and so people.
- 50:44Speaker 1: Are big and like the brunch culture and the fu
- 50:46Speaker 1: fu and the lights and the bottle service and all
- 50:49Speaker 1: that and the frills, And we take pride in not
- 50:53Speaker 1: and not being that because we are a family establishment.
- 50:57Speaker 1: We are a community driven establishment, and so we want
- 51:01Speaker 1: all people to come and feel welcome and comfortable and
- 51:05Speaker 1: kind of leave that extra stuff outside.
- 51:08Speaker 5: You get all the feels, but not the frills.
- 51:09Speaker 2: Okay, Well it's working. Yeah, clearly, clearly it's working.
- 51:14Speaker 6: So how do you guys impact And you're from y'all's perspective,
- 51:18Speaker 6: you guys impact the community through food like that is
- 51:21Speaker 6: y'all's love language. How else do you guys can impact
- 51:25Speaker 6: the community?
- 51:25Speaker 2: Do you feel like?
- 51:27Speaker 5: I think we care?
- 51:29Speaker 8: Like you know, we learn different things about the families
- 51:32Speaker 8: the people that come in. You know, we see some
- 51:36Speaker 8: of these people literally five to seven times, three to
- 51:38Speaker 8: seven times a week, and so it's like happy birthday,
- 51:41Speaker 8: get to.
- 51:41Speaker 5: See you, I missed you for two weeks. Where were
- 51:43Speaker 5: you are you? Okay?
- 51:44Speaker 8: We do house calls for some of our regulars, right, like,
- 51:48Speaker 8: is everything okay? Because we have not you know, seen you.
- 51:51Speaker 8: We get feedback, we accept the feedback, and so I
- 51:54Speaker 8: think because our ears to the ground, they're comfortable with
- 51:58Speaker 8: telling us different things and we are not.
- 52:03Speaker 5: Rejecting the feedback. I think that's the biggest part.
- 52:08Speaker 1: Then on top of that means that we we do
- 52:10Speaker 1: provide real tangible things to the community. We've donated food
- 52:15Speaker 1: to several organizations. We've of course we employ people, We
- 52:20Speaker 1: employ the community. We have a staff of about twenty people.
- 52:25Speaker 1: And then we also Jessica and I we started doing this.
- 52:29Speaker 1: Is this would be our fourth time this year. I
- 52:31Speaker 1: guess this Thanksgiving. So on Thanksgiving morning.
- 52:34Speaker 3: I think this year four because we did in twenty twenty.
- 52:40Speaker 2: Six.
- 52:41Speaker 1: Yeah, on Thanksgiving morning. We actually we close down on Thanksgiving.
- 52:47Speaker 1: But yeah, in our in our families, we come out
- 52:53Speaker 1: and we serve food in the parking lot. So we'll
- 52:55Speaker 1: either you know, prep food the day before and we'll
- 52:58Speaker 1: be in the kitchen cooking and we'll go out of
- 53:00Speaker 1: ark a lot and serve, you know, serve the community.
- 53:02Speaker 1: Anybody wants to come, doesn't have to be somebody that's
- 53:04Speaker 1: homeless or somebody that but somebody that just wants to
- 53:06Speaker 1: go to the serving spoon on Thanksgiving and so we'll
- 53:08Speaker 1: do breakfast or we've done lunch as well on Thanksgiving morning,
- 53:12Speaker 1: and then it's a litany of other things that we
- 53:14Speaker 1: get so many requests, sponsorships, and so we do our
- 53:19Speaker 1: best to contribute to the community that for you.
- 53:21Speaker 6: Guys, are you guys worried with the neighborhood changing that
- 53:27Speaker 6: I don't know if gentrification is the right word to
- 53:31Speaker 6: stay here, but are you guys worried that the serving
- 53:34Speaker 6: spoon will eventually get pushed out? Or you guys strategically like,
- 53:38Speaker 6: this is home for Inglewood. This isn't something that we're
- 53:41Speaker 6: necessarily going to be worried about.
- 53:43Speaker 5: I don't know if we're if worried.
- 53:46Speaker 8: We are mindful of it. Okay, we are mindful of it.
- 53:49Speaker 8: It is not if we get pushed out. We are
- 53:53Speaker 8: actively thinking of other opportunities move different places. So that
- 53:57Speaker 8: could definitely impact, you know, the long standing brick and
- 54:01Speaker 8: mortar of that location. But I don't think that the
- 54:06Speaker 8: gentrification will eliminate us as an institution. So because we
- 54:12Speaker 8: walk in there now, we definitely have different viewpoints and
- 54:15Speaker 8: vantage points than what it was in nineteen eighty five,
- 54:19Speaker 8: nineteen ninety five, two thousand and five. For sure, our clients,
- 54:23Speaker 8: our customers have evolved and changed into a different look.
- 54:28Speaker 8: But we have not erased ourselves beautiful and that's the thing, Like,
- 54:32Speaker 8: we're not changing it to look like what the community
- 54:35Speaker 8: is turning into. You guys, we are still staying true
- 54:38Speaker 8: to what we are, how we are, and you're going
- 54:41Speaker 8: to feel comfortable regardless of who you are.
- 54:45Speaker 3: And so, yeah, and I think we have value to
- 54:48Speaker 3: the city.
- 54:50Speaker 1: Yeah, I think we are true like yeah, yeah, yeah,
- 54:55Speaker 1: and so I think it would be against the interest.
- 54:59Speaker 3: Of the city.
- 55:01Speaker 2: It's not going to happen. It's not going to I
- 55:03Speaker 2: can't see it. People it happen. It's not going to happen.
- 55:06Speaker 2: You've seen things grow up literally, you know, baby, were
- 55:11Speaker 2: cater weddings.
- 55:13Speaker 5: We haven't catered.
- 55:16Speaker 8: Showers, you know, family breakfasts, brunches, lunches, dinners.
- 55:22Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you're part of their lives. I'm like, it's
- 55:27Speaker 2: it's the place to be.
- 55:28Speaker 5: My best friend she had a reception, we had the servants.
- 55:33Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just it.
- 55:34Speaker 5: They had a court wedding, and I was like, well,
- 55:35Speaker 5: let's do it.
- 55:36Speaker 6: We did a little you know, and secure the show
- 55:39Speaker 6: and Secure, the serving spoon is like, you know, it's
- 55:43Speaker 6: like that's it's a scene from Insecure.
- 55:45Speaker 2: It's just like, l that's what the serving spoon is.
- 55:50Speaker 2: So Inglewood is changing.
- 55:52Speaker 6: But again, you guys have had such a cultural impact
- 55:55Speaker 6: for the city that I mean, we pray that again.
- 55:59Speaker 6: You guys are there for now, there one thousand years.
- 56:04Speaker 2: We don't pray to take it over.
- 56:06Speaker 5: You know what's funny.
- 56:07Speaker 8: My kids come to work with me and they love it.
- 56:09Speaker 8: And my oldest said, Mommy, I don't want you to
- 56:11Speaker 8: go to work anymore. I want to go to work
- 56:13Speaker 8: for you. And so yeah, so my oldest said that,
- 56:16Speaker 8: and then my middle one is like, the serving spoon,
- 56:19Speaker 8: are you going to that?
- 56:20Speaker 6: So it has such an impact on your kids already.
- 56:23Speaker 6: So let's get into you guys being owners. We talked
- 56:27Speaker 6: a little bit about how the torch was passed from
- 56:30Speaker 6: parents to you guys, and you guys kind of talked
- 56:34Speaker 6: it out and now you guys are the owners. What's
- 56:36Speaker 6: the biggest misconception about owning, especially in the food industry,
- 56:41Speaker 6: because I know it's challenging. They always I was always
- 56:43Speaker 6: told food business.
- 56:46Speaker 2: Restaurant, stay away, That's what I was told.
- 56:49Speaker 6: So what's the biggest misconception or its even taking on
- 56:52Speaker 6: something like taking on such a beautiful restaurant, what was
- 56:58Speaker 6: What's something that you think people wouldn't know about?
- 57:00Speaker 9: It?
- 57:01Speaker 5: It gets messy, It can get really messy. You're dealing
- 57:05Speaker 5: with people, you're dealing with food.
- 57:08Speaker 8: So people walk in hungry and hungry, and then they
- 57:12Speaker 8: have their preferences, right, and then you have the employees
- 57:15Speaker 8: who have their preferences. So it's it's like this ecosystem
- 57:19Speaker 8: that is happening.
- 57:21Speaker 5: Every second of the day.
- 57:24Speaker 8: One wrong thing can set off the kitchen, one wrong
- 57:27Speaker 8: customer can potentially set off a server or a host,
- 57:30Speaker 8: and it could just change the trajectory. And so that's
- 57:34Speaker 8: one thing. Also, people think you got a long line,
- 57:37Speaker 8: which means you got fat pockets.
- 57:40Speaker 5: That's not true. It's not because everything costs, you know,
- 57:45Speaker 5: and we try to inherit.
- 57:48Speaker 1: It as well, right like yeah, as and so there
- 57:52Speaker 1: is a huge upside of course, purchasing your on your
- 57:55Speaker 1: restaurant that's been around for so long. But then there's
- 57:58Speaker 1: also a downside of certain things, certain bad habits that
- 58:01Speaker 1: have we've inherited as well, you know, like we we
- 58:07Speaker 1: redid our floors, this was in twenty three, I think
- 58:13Speaker 1: twenty twenty three. Read our floors in twenty twenty three,
- 58:16Speaker 1: and we lifted up all the booths and it had
- 58:19Speaker 1: carpet underneath the booths from our granddad owned it. Wow.
- 58:24Speaker 5: Yeah, and the floor had been done before he did.
- 58:27Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 58:28Speaker 1: And so you kind of when you when you kind
- 58:30Speaker 1: of especially in an older building, you go into something
- 58:32Speaker 1: that you know, shit on top of shit, and so you.
- 58:35Speaker 3: Kind of have to like start from scraps sometimes, which
- 58:38Speaker 3: can be difficult.
- 58:39Speaker 1: And then as far as, like Jessica mentioned it being
- 58:42Speaker 1: messy the customers, it could be messy with like, you know,
- 58:45Speaker 1: family business is not easy. Yeah, and you know, we
- 58:48Speaker 1: had our fair share of you know, Be and Jessica
- 58:50Speaker 1: we be going at it sometimes and you know, with
- 58:53Speaker 1: your parents.
- 58:54Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's good.
- 58:55Speaker 1: It's good though, but it could be tough, especially when
- 58:59Speaker 1: you bring spouses into the equation.
- 59:01Speaker 3: Like I brought my wife out here.
- 59:04Speaker 1: She's from Florida and so this was completely new first,
- 59:06Speaker 1: having her to understand what the restaurant.
- 59:08Speaker 3: Life is like and yeah, yeah, yeah, that should be
- 59:13Speaker 3: holding it down.
- 59:14Speaker 1: But and so that's a big misconception and I think
- 59:19Speaker 1: kind of what Jessica was saying, as far as like,
- 59:21Speaker 1: you know, people lying down the street people think like,
- 59:24Speaker 1: oh yeah, you guys are rolling in dough and generational wealth.
- 59:29Speaker 1: But in reality, you know, there's it is extremely expensive
- 59:32Speaker 1: to run this business and nobody really cares about it
- 59:36Speaker 1: as much as we do. And so when you have
- 59:39Speaker 1: a staff of twenty plus people, you know, it's a
- 59:41Speaker 1: lot to manage, you know, and we talk about culture
- 59:44Speaker 1: and partner that culture amongst everyone.
- 59:46Speaker 3: Because this is our livelihoods. We gave a lot to
- 59:50Speaker 3: do this, and it was you know, it's.
- 59:53Speaker 5: A form of love, honestly, generational labor of love.
- 59:57Speaker 2: I remember you saying that that is what it is.
- 1:00:00Speaker 8: It's more than generational wealth. And I think at some
- 1:00:03Speaker 8: point it will become a wealth situation. So we're still
- 1:00:07Speaker 8: on the trajectory for that, but it's definitely a labor
- 1:00:10Speaker 8: of love, not even from just us, but like our staff.
- 1:00:13Speaker 8: We have staff that's been there you know for almost
- 1:00:16Speaker 8: forty years, fifteen years, twelve years, things like that, so
- 1:00:19Speaker 8: they also love it. You know, in our customers they
- 1:00:22Speaker 8: love it too, and so sometimes they feel like they're
- 1:00:24Speaker 8: more invested than us, but.
- 1:00:26Speaker 5: That's not their case.
- 1:00:28Speaker 6: What lesson did you learn from your parents that helps
- 1:00:31Speaker 6: you navigate ownership?
- 1:00:32Speaker 3: Now, man, that's a good question.
- 1:00:36Speaker 5: It is I think treating people kindly.
- 1:00:41Speaker 9: For me.
- 1:00:42Speaker 5: I don't know if I could say every time all
- 1:00:45Speaker 5: of us have treated people kindly. I think we've all
- 1:00:46Speaker 5: had our moments.
- 1:00:47Speaker 8: But that is a lesson that I learned, because it's
- 1:00:49Speaker 8: better to treat them kind and engage. Our dad would say,
- 1:00:53Speaker 8: engage properly and disengage properly, and I think that that
- 1:00:57Speaker 8: is what is outside of God's grace. Covering our restaurant
- 1:01:01Speaker 8: has kept our restaurant in a neutral zone in safe.
- 1:01:05Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I would agree with that.
- 1:01:07Speaker 1: You you never really know who you're gonna like, especially
- 1:01:10Speaker 1: growing up in La Yeah, you know, you haven't. You
- 1:01:13Speaker 1: have teachers and friends, and you know, I have teachers
- 1:01:16Speaker 1: that I came into the restaurant from elementary in high
- 1:01:20Speaker 1: school and thankfully I was okay, I was a pretty
- 1:01:23Speaker 1: good student, you know, I was, you know, for the
- 1:01:25Speaker 1: most part, and so they're still happy to see me,
- 1:01:27Speaker 1: and it's not like, what are you doing here? You know,
- 1:01:30Speaker 1: And you always keep that in the back of your mind,
- 1:01:33Speaker 1: especially people that come through the doors and you see
- 1:01:35Speaker 1: them somewhere else. You always want to treat people with
- 1:01:37Speaker 1: respect and kindness and stay humble too, honestly, because you can,
- 1:01:41Speaker 1: you know, flex on somebody or whatever, and then it's
- 1:01:43Speaker 1: like you the one that. Yeah, so we want to
- 1:01:46Speaker 1: make sure that we are always practicing humility and being
- 1:01:50Speaker 1: just grateful honestly for the position that we're in.
- 1:01:53Speaker 7: What about the dynamic between working with your brother, like
- 1:01:56Speaker 7: as a brother and sister duo, like that has to
- 1:01:58Speaker 7: be in itself a dynamic.
- 1:02:00Speaker 3: It is, Yeah, it is, for sure, for sure. Yeah, yeah,
- 1:02:05Speaker 3: it is.
- 1:02:06Speaker 5: It's a dynamic. I think I remember one time.
- 1:02:09Speaker 8: I don't know if you remember this, but Justin came
- 1:02:13Speaker 8: in at one point and I was like, good to
- 1:02:14Speaker 8: see you here, and he was like, don't do that again,
- 1:02:19Speaker 8: and I was like, I was just saying it, you know,
- 1:02:24Speaker 8: oh my god, I remember it, and I was saying
- 1:02:27Speaker 8: it like in jest, but also because our staff is
- 1:02:30Speaker 8: so observant to things, it also was like, don't take
- 1:02:34Speaker 8: the role of big sister, little brother, you know, little brother,
- 1:02:37Speaker 8: big sister type of thing, because it's a level of respect.
- 1:02:42Speaker 8: And so when he said that, I was like, okay,
- 1:02:44Speaker 8: that for me was my mind to be like in
- 1:02:47Speaker 8: closed doors. We have our conversations, but even still neither
- 1:02:50Speaker 8: of us really pull rank on each other. It's like
- 1:02:53Speaker 8: who's more invested in the decision that we are saying
- 1:02:57Speaker 8: or standpoint where we're coming from versus not? And it's like,
- 1:03:01Speaker 8: am I really that married to yes or no? And
- 1:03:04Speaker 8: sometimes we go back and forth and you know, have
- 1:03:06Speaker 8: our different vantage points. It's like, okay, you got a
- 1:03:08Speaker 8: good point, and we make it work.
- 1:03:10Speaker 6: But yeah, before we close, I do want to ask
- 1:03:13Speaker 6: two more questions. So what scared you guys the most
- 1:03:16Speaker 6: about becoming owners? Were you guys afraid of failure? And
- 1:03:20Speaker 6: what advice would you give someone who wants to take
- 1:03:23Speaker 6: the leap to start a business or continue their family business?
- 1:03:28Speaker 6: So we can answer, So answer the what were you
- 1:03:31Speaker 6: the most scared about when you took on the family business?
- 1:03:38Speaker 5: You know what's weird.
- 1:03:39Speaker 8: I don't think I was super scared about something going wrong.
- 1:03:46Speaker 5: I think it was more.
- 1:03:51Speaker 8: It was like this adrenaline okay, and I think I'm
- 1:03:53Speaker 8: still on the adrenaline rush. So when we took it over,
- 1:03:57Speaker 8: I don't think it was more fearful versus Now there
- 1:04:00Speaker 8: are things that come up that's like, oh man, are
- 1:04:02Speaker 8: we gonna make it out of this one? Or like
- 1:04:04Speaker 8: if we don't have a manager, or if we lose
- 1:04:06Speaker 8: a position. Literally God is always provided for that, and
- 1:04:10Speaker 8: so I think to that extent, I was never scared
- 1:04:13Speaker 8: of like are we gonna fail? Thankfully, I have a
- 1:04:15Speaker 8: husband who is my health insurance, my partner, and my love.
- 1:04:20Speaker 8: You know, he's keeping us afloat and I am so
- 1:04:22Speaker 8: grateful for it. And so for that, I've always said,
- 1:04:25Speaker 8: if we have a mortgage and we have the restaurant,
- 1:04:26Speaker 8: we'll never go hungry and we'll never go homeless.
- 1:04:30Speaker 6: And so for that reason, I don't think I was
- 1:04:32Speaker 6: really scared person. So justin what advice would you give
- 1:04:36Speaker 6: someone who's trying to take that.
- 1:04:38Speaker 5: Leap of faith?
- 1:04:39Speaker 1: Or I think we kind of learned with owning the
- 1:04:42Speaker 1: restaurant is that a business is kind of like a
- 1:04:45Speaker 1: like a living organism, and so you got to feed
- 1:04:49Speaker 1: it the right fuel you gotta. You know, some days
- 1:04:52Speaker 1: he may not feel great, some days he may feel
- 1:04:54Speaker 1: super great, but you always have to value it and chaerishit.
- 1:04:58Speaker 1: And so just like you do your body, and if
- 1:05:02Speaker 1: you neglect it, then it will show. And a lot
- 1:05:04Speaker 1: of times in business those results are. I call it
- 1:05:08Speaker 1: a lagging indicator, so it may not show immediately. Just
- 1:05:12Speaker 1: like if you, you know, eat ten twinkies today, you
- 1:05:15Speaker 1: may you may feel bad for a little bit, but
- 1:05:17Speaker 1: you're really gonna feel it, you know, in a couple
- 1:05:19Speaker 1: of weeks. So same thing with the business, and so
- 1:05:21Speaker 1: you have to feed it the right stuff and do
- 1:05:23Speaker 1: things the right way and it will reward you.
- 1:05:27Speaker 3: It will reward you, but you.
- 1:05:31Speaker 2: Have to have that discipline and the just the weight,
- 1:05:36Speaker 2: be able to withstand.
- 1:05:37Speaker 1: The delay, gratification and understand what things, bad things do happen.
- 1:05:42Speaker 1: You know that that's that's life and you know it
- 1:05:44Speaker 1: kind of has to inhale and excel. So you have to,
- 1:05:47Speaker 1: you know, go with the ebbs and flows and be
- 1:05:48Speaker 1: able to witherstand those those bad times.
- 1:05:51Speaker 6: So what does legacy mean to you? What do you
- 1:05:54Speaker 6: hope for the serving spoon to be in twenty years?
- 1:05:59Speaker 6: And what's one thing you could say? You would say
- 1:06:01Speaker 6: to your parents right now?
- 1:06:05Speaker 8: So thank you to our parents, to our grandfather, to
- 1:06:12Speaker 8: every person who came before us, all the servers, the cooks,
- 1:06:15Speaker 8: the busters, the hosts, everything right, thank you huge, thank you,
- 1:06:21Speaker 8: And twenty years from now, I pray that we are
- 1:06:25Speaker 8: a well oiled machine that is able to be almost
- 1:06:31Speaker 8: like a blueprint for hospitality, consistency, service, and gratitude.
- 1:06:42Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 1:06:42Speaker 5: Yeah, if we could do that in twenty years, I
- 1:06:45Speaker 5: think I would be very very pleased.
- 1:06:47Speaker 2: You would feel like your legacy has been fulfilled.
- 1:06:50Speaker 5: Yes, the stamp is made.
- 1:06:53Speaker 4: Like that like that?
- 1:06:58Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I think legacy is everything. I think
- 1:07:00Speaker 3: that's why.
- 1:07:02Speaker 1: I was always interested in the restaurant. We're always interested.
- 1:07:06Speaker 1: I think you value our you know, she's not a
- 1:07:11Speaker 1: Johnson anymore because she got married, of course, but you
- 1:07:14Speaker 1: know the Johnson last name. She's a Bane now, and
- 1:07:19Speaker 1: even the Sparks last name. That's something that has always
- 1:07:21Speaker 1: been really important to us.
- 1:07:24Speaker 3: Growing up.
- 1:07:24Speaker 1: We always kind of had like a magnifying glass on
- 1:07:27Speaker 1: us because either the restaurant or like just I said,
- 1:07:29Speaker 1: church or school, and so we can never really go
- 1:07:32Speaker 1: anywhere and not be seen or known by our parents'
- 1:07:36Speaker 1: friends or somebody. And so it was always really important
- 1:07:40Speaker 1: to me to represent my family well. And so now
- 1:07:43Speaker 1: we move forward and we're on platforms like this or
- 1:07:47Speaker 1: or you know, we're out in the restaurant and we're
- 1:07:49Speaker 1: not just representing ourselves representing our last names. And that's
- 1:07:53Speaker 1: something that's extremely important because I mean, that's all you
- 1:07:55Speaker 1: kind of really have in this world.
- 1:07:57Speaker 3: Honestly.
- 1:07:58Speaker 2: Well, you're about you are embarking on really ceiling your name.
- 1:08:08Speaker 3: In a big way, right Yeah.
- 1:08:10Speaker 2: Yeah, very exciting. Yeah yeah you might as.
- 1:08:17Speaker 5: Well just everybody.
- 1:08:19Speaker 1: So we recently received were recipients of American Classics War
- 1:08:25Speaker 1: the award for the James Beard Foundation.
- 1:08:34Speaker 3: Excited you heard it here the game.
- 1:08:38Speaker 2: I'm so proud of you guys.
- 1:08:41Speaker 6: So many surprises, right, we have one more also, but
- 1:08:44Speaker 6: before that, okay, explain to people if they don't.
- 1:08:46Speaker 1: Know what yes, yes, yeah, So the James Beard Foundation
- 1:08:51Speaker 1: and that the award show is it's synonymous with like
- 1:08:54Speaker 1: the Grammys or the Oscars for food in the US
- 1:08:57Speaker 1: culinary scene, and so it's essentially the highest level of
- 1:09:01Speaker 1: awards you can receive for in the in the United States, uh,
- 1:09:04Speaker 1: in the food business.
- 1:09:05Speaker 3: And so we are extremely honored. When they told us,
- 1:09:08Speaker 3: I thought it was a prank. So yeah it was.
- 1:09:14Speaker 3: Was it a Wednesday? Wednesday?
- 1:09:16Speaker 1: It was during our lunch rush and the phone was
- 1:09:19Speaker 1: ringing and usually the team picks up the phone and
- 1:09:22Speaker 1: I would happened to be by the phone. So I
- 1:09:23Speaker 1: picked it up and said, hey, you know there's the servants,
- 1:09:26Speaker 1: the whole speel. Hey, this is such and such from
- 1:09:29Speaker 1: the James Beard Foundation. I want to let you guys know,
- 1:09:32Speaker 1: you guys have won an award. Can I speak to
- 1:09:34Speaker 1: the manager the owner? And I'm like, yeah, this is
- 1:09:36Speaker 1: the owners, this is justin And I'm like, yeah it is.
- 1:09:39Speaker 1: And then I'm like okay. So and she tells us
- 1:09:41Speaker 1: there's a ceremony in Chicago and red car red carpet
- 1:09:46Speaker 1: ceremony that we're going to be attending, and uh, we
- 1:09:49Speaker 1: get a couple of tickets and a hotel stay and
- 1:09:52Speaker 1: and it's uh, we actually because they have nominations, but
- 1:09:56Speaker 1: we actually won the award for California.
- 1:09:58Speaker 3: So I represented Cali. Super excited, super excited.
- 1:10:06Speaker 2: So how do your parents feel?
- 1:10:10Speaker 3: Well, my dad even know who James.
- 1:10:18Speaker 1: She was super excited. But we told them, and we haven't.
- 1:10:23Speaker 1: One person we haven't told yet is our granddad. And
- 1:10:25Speaker 1: so you guys, and so our plan, our plan is
- 1:10:32Speaker 1: to actually take him out there to Chicago with us.
- 1:10:34Speaker 9: Yeah.
- 1:10:35Speaker 1: He hates flying unless it's going home. Yeah, and Chicago's
- 1:10:39Speaker 1: kind of close to where he's from. So I think
- 1:10:40Speaker 1: he'll think that's a.
- 1:10:43Speaker 2: Beautiful way, just to like y'all's legacy continuing.
- 1:10:47Speaker 5: Look at you guys.
- 1:10:48Speaker 2: You guys are doing it.
- 1:10:49Speaker 6: You guys have stepped into such huge shoes, such huge shoes,
- 1:10:55Speaker 6: shoes to fill, and you guys are doing it in
- 1:10:57Speaker 6: such a beautiful way. And I know your parents and
- 1:10:59Speaker 6: your grandfather is proud of you guys.
- 1:11:02Speaker 5: I mean, that's how you.
- 1:11:05Speaker 2: Like, That's how we get.
- 1:11:08Speaker 1: But it's really it's really you know, everything that's been
- 1:11:10Speaker 1: done before us. We are because the one of the
- 1:11:14Speaker 1: primary criteria for that award is to be in business
- 1:11:17Speaker 1: for ten years or longer, and you guys.
- 1:11:21Speaker 2: Two years.
- 1:11:23Speaker 3: Yeah, And so we're really thankful and grateful that they
- 1:11:26Speaker 3: considered us. And then we didn't even apply, like we didn't.
- 1:11:29Speaker 3: We didn't.
- 1:11:30Speaker 5: That's crazy. It was a dream and we didn't know
- 1:11:33Speaker 5: was actually going to come through.
- 1:11:35Speaker 2: Good for you guys. We're so proud, Thank you, We're
- 1:11:38Speaker 2: so special, thank you coming by. Oh my god, we
- 1:11:41Speaker 2: already know we'll be there, you know.
- 1:11:43Speaker 6: With my Veggie Burger, got you, got you, Let's show
- 1:11:47Speaker 6: you one more surprise that we can't we can't leave
- 1:11:50Speaker 6: the conversation. Got more Thanks thanks to press play.
- 1:12:06Speaker 9: Kudos to Jessica and Justin working so well together, and
- 1:12:11Speaker 9: we are so proud of you carrying on the legacy
- 1:12:14Speaker 9: third generation at the Serving Spoon.
- 1:12:18Speaker 3: Again, we love you so much and.
- 1:12:20Speaker 9: We are very very very very proud of you.
- 1:12:24Speaker 10: And I second that we love you. You guys are
- 1:12:26Speaker 10: doing an amazing job. You guys are carrying on the legacy.
- 1:12:29Speaker 10: Every generation gets better, and you guys have definitely carried
- 1:12:33Speaker 10: the torch.
- 1:12:33Speaker 2: We love you guys to the ends of the earth.
- 1:12:36Speaker 10: We're very proud of you keeping the good work and
- 1:12:38Speaker 10: don't stop keep working for the community.
- 1:12:41Speaker 5: Love you guys. I'm really grateful that we're able to
- 1:12:58Speaker 5: give them their flowers while they're here.
- 1:13:00Speaker 2: Yes, that is grateful.
- 1:13:02Speaker 6: They're able to watch you guys step into this position
- 1:13:05Speaker 6: with such confidence and just doing it in a beautiful
- 1:13:09Speaker 6: way that you.
- 1:13:10Speaker 2: Guys may even want to pass it out to your kids.
- 1:13:14Speaker 2: And I know you're so vibrant. Y'all are so lovely. Yeah,
- 1:13:20Speaker 2: my god, yeah, talking about your parents, I mean and
- 1:13:28Speaker 2: Jason hys. Yeah, So, thank you guys for joining.
- 1:13:34Speaker 5: Thank you guys for having us.
- 1:13:35Speaker 2: It was great.
- 1:13:36Speaker 3: Justin and just.
- 1:13:39Speaker 2: Mister, I'm nervous.
- 1:13:43Speaker 3: Was beautiful.
- 1:13:45Speaker 2: No, thank you, it was great.
- 1:13:46Speaker 5: That was great.
- 1:13:47Speaker 6: All right, let's close it out, all right. Thank you
- 1:13:50Speaker 6: guys for joining us on today's episode of Born to
- 1:13:53Speaker 6: the Game. We had Jessica and Justin join us. Please
- 1:13:56Speaker 6: make sure to like, follow, subscribe and share and share.
- 1:14:01Speaker 2: Thank you guys. Will see you next time.
- 1:14:03Speaker 9: What M