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Making Home Beautiful: Tackling Floors and Fall Painting · Repcolite Home Improvement Show

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  Speaker 1: Well, good morning everybody. Good morning one and all everybody
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  Speaker 1: out there. You're listening to the reco Light Home improvement
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  Speaker 1: show sponsored by Benjamin Moore. And before we start the
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  Speaker 1: show today, I've got to talk about my raised garden
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  Speaker 1: months ago. Months ago, I did a segment on building,
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  Speaker 1: you know, a raised garden bed, and I talked about
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  Speaker 1: all the different reasons that you should want to do that,
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  Speaker 1: and then I told you that I had built one.
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  Speaker 1: And I think we're going to revisit this topic in
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  Speaker 1: the next few weeks because really, to do it the
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  Speaker 1: right way, you would build it now, you know, in
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  Speaker 1: the fall, and that gives you a lot of time
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  Speaker 1: before spring to work the soil over in your bed
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  Speaker 1: and make sure it's perfect. So we'll talk about that
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  Speaker 1: in a few weeks. But quickly this morning. I did
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  Speaker 1: that in the spring, talked about it on the radio,
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  Speaker 1: and it was beautiful, you know, a perfect little raised bed.
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  Speaker 1: It was neat and trim, and then we planted several
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  Speaker 1: tomato plants in there and then we waited. It just
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  Speaker 1: looked like like a story book, you know, it was perfect. Well,
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  Speaker 1: flash ahead, Apparently the soil in that garden bed, that
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  Speaker 1: raised bed is so much healthier than any of the
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  Speaker 1: soil around my home that I have tomatoes literally coming
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  Speaker 1: out of my ears. You know. The tomato plants have
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  Speaker 1: overgrown the bed so dramatically, I kid you not. They
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  Speaker 1: reach six feet or more in each direction over the bed.
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  Speaker 1: It's like a rainforest in there. We have to go
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  Speaker 1: in with machetes when we want to try to harvest
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  Speaker 1: some of the millions of tomatoes that are present there.
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  Speaker 1: Have you ever, ever ever been nearly destroyed by your success,
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  Speaker 1: by just sheer, raw, uncontrollable success. Well, that's where we're at.
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  Speaker 1: That's where the Hansons are at right now. We almost
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  Speaker 1: need to open a roadside stand or maybe a grocery store.
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  Speaker 1: I've never eaten so many tomatoes in all my life anyway,
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  Speaker 1: It's crazy, and I wanted to let you know raised
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  Speaker 1: bed gardening. It's an adventure. And we'll talk more about
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  Speaker 1: that in a week or two, and you can do
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  Speaker 1: the same thing at your house. All right. On the
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  Speaker 1: show today, I've got a ton planned. We're going to
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  Speaker 1: end the show with our yearly discussion about fall painting weather.
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  Speaker 1: You know, what are the rules for painting outside this
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  Speaker 1: time of year? I'm going to go over all of
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  Speaker 1: that so you can get as many outdoor projects accomplished
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  Speaker 1: as possible without making any big mistakes. I'm also going
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  Speaker 1: to be in the studio with Ali Bride from Mustard
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  Speaker 1: Seed Beginnings, and we're going to be talking about a
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  Speaker 1: wood floor refinishing project that Ali tackled in her home.
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  Speaker 1: It was a huge project and there's a big, big
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  Speaker 1: payoff at the end, and we'll get into the whole thing.
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  Speaker 1: We'll talk about all the ups and downs everything she
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  Speaker 1: did coming up in a little bit. But right now,
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  Speaker 1: let's jump in to the paint point for the week.
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  Speaker 1: And I've got to put, you know, my serious face
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  Speaker 1: on for a minute, my serious, sappy face. You know,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know where you are at right now, but
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  Speaker 1: I want to give you a little window into my mind.
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  Speaker 1: Buckle up. It's early, I know that, and that might
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  Speaker 1: sound kind of threatening, but don't worry. Don't worry. It's
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  Speaker 1: probably not going to be as bad as you expect. Anyway.
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  Speaker 1: Here is what goes through my mind on a daily basis,
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  Speaker 1: and I guess before I get into all of that
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  Speaker 1: very quickly, I want to throw out this caveat I
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  Speaker 1: know already right off the bat. I know that not
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  Speaker 1: all of my thoughts are rational, they're not all healthy,
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  Speaker 1: and they're certainly not all helpful. But this is the reality.
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  Speaker 1: It's what I think about, whether I like it or not.
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  Speaker 1: So with that said, here's what goes through my mind.
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  Speaker 1: Daily groceries. The rising costs, right, you know that's insane
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  Speaker 1: on its own. What meals can I make this week
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  Speaker 1: that are new? Different, maybe maybe even exciting. You know,
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  Speaker 1: I'll just take new or different at this point coming
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  Speaker 1: up with new meals, man, that is a mind blowing
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  Speaker 1: experience for me. Then you know, there's the dogs, probably
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  Speaker 1: time for a vet visit. I get the little card
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  Speaker 1: in the mail. We've got to get the dog there.
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  Speaker 1: I got to get both dogs there, and I know
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  Speaker 1: that's not going to be cheap, So that plays in
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  Speaker 1: my head. The kid kids, Man, do I think about
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  Speaker 1: the kids? Got five kids, think about them all the time.
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  Speaker 1: I've got a daughter who's engaged now recently engaged, and
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  Speaker 1: as a parent, that brings out a lot of mixed emotions, right, excitement,
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  Speaker 1: of course, But you know, there's a ton of unknowns,
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  Speaker 1: and I don't like unknowns. I like to have everything
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  Speaker 1: kind of mapped out For me, I like to be
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  Speaker 1: told what I'm going to experience, how I'm going to
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  Speaker 1: like it, and all of those things ahead of time.
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  Speaker 1: And I don't get a lot of that with some
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  Speaker 1: of these things. So all of that's on my mind.
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  Speaker 1: I think about the other kids. I've got a couple
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  Speaker 1: kids in college, one will soon be entering college, and
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  Speaker 1: I wonder are they on the right path? Did I
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  Speaker 1: give them enough guidance, did I help them? Did I
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  Speaker 1: give them too much guidance? Did I steer them in
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  Speaker 1: a direction that maybe maybe I shouldn't have, you know,
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  Speaker 1: who knows, my goodness? So many different things to think
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  Speaker 1: about with that, you know, then I've got work that
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  Speaker 1: I think about. Of course, we all think about work,
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  Speaker 1: you know, did I do a good job, did I
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  Speaker 1: drop the ball on that? What's going to happen? Wah?
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  Speaker 1: Who knows? All of that's in my head. And then
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  Speaker 1: on top of all of that, I make the mistake
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  Speaker 1: of looking at the news right global problems, national issues,
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  Speaker 1: local issues. It's overwhelming, you know, with an election on
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  Speaker 1: the horizon. Anxiety it's pretty much everywhere. It's in the air,
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  Speaker 1: it's omnipresent, and it's there for everybody. No matter what
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  Speaker 1: your political leaning is. You know, there's a lot of
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  Speaker 1: anxiety out there. And let's not even talk about the house.
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  Speaker 1: I've got projects everywhere I look. I think that's why
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  Speaker 1: I've been talking about it for the last three or
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  Speaker 1: four weeks. That kind of sentiment has been playing through,
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  Speaker 1: and it's because it's constantly in my mind. I just
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  Speaker 1: see all these things that I should be doing, rooms
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  Speaker 1: that need attention, things that need to be fixed. But
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  Speaker 1: the truth is, I'm struggling to find the energy to
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  Speaker 1: do it, and all of that, all of that is
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  Speaker 1: in my brain. I'm sorry. It's the truth though, And
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  Speaker 1: when I talk to people, you know a lot of
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  Speaker 1: other people, it seems like a lot of us are
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  Speaker 1: in similar mental places. That brings me to something that
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  Speaker 1: I've been kind of noticing lately. And it's more than
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  Speaker 1: just a paint point for the week. It's something bigger.
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  Speaker 1: What's missing in my life right now is beauty. And
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  Speaker 1: I kind of really wish that Haley was here to
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  Speaker 1: help me talk this through, so I think she'd be
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  Speaker 1: great at helping me pull the best out of this.
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  Speaker 1: But since she's not here, I'm going to wing it.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I guess I've been starting to realize that
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  Speaker 1: so many of the things that I dwell on, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I've been realizing this probably recently over the last month
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  Speaker 1: or so, but so many of the things that I'm
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  Speaker 1: dwelling on, groceries, work, world problems. You know, all of
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  Speaker 1: those things are in some way ugly. You know, they're stressful,
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  Speaker 1: they're heavy, and in the case of world events, they're
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  Speaker 1: really genuinely ugly. You know, there's a lot of ugly
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  Speaker 1: out there, and it's taking up way too much space
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  Speaker 1: in my mind. What's missing is what I said earlier,
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  Speaker 1: it's the beauty. And here's the interesting part. I really
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  Speaker 1: think this is really fascinating. We all know beauty is subjective.
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  Speaker 1: You know, what's beautiful to me, it might not be beautiful
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  Speaker 1: to you. It probably isn't in some ways. But the
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  Speaker 1: fact that we all need beauty in our lives, you know,
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  Speaker 1: that's not subjective. That's objective. That's that's true, it's real.
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  Speaker 1: You know, beauty can bring about joy, It inspires creativity,
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  Speaker 1: It helps us feel secure, It calms us, it centers us,
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  Speaker 1: it reminds us. I guess what I'm trying to say,
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  Speaker 1: It reminds us that there's more, you know, capital m more,
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  Speaker 1: you know, whatever you're dealing with right now, Beauty reminds
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  Speaker 1: us that there's more to life than just that. Now.
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  Speaker 1: What you find beautiful, well, it's subjective, it's up to you.
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  Speaker 1: It could be could be anything, music, art, landscape, architecture, nature, hunting, fishing,
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  Speaker 1: you know. Maybe it's literature, maybe it's poetry. Maybe it's
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  Speaker 1: relationships or good conversations, religion and faith, God, it could
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  Speaker 1: be anything. But whatever it is, go and find it.
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  Speaker 1: Go find the things that are beautiful in this life,
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  Speaker 1: and then spend more time looking at them and thinking
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  Speaker 1: about them than you do the ugly and the negative
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  Speaker 1: and the stressful and concerning. And while I know that
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  Speaker 1: sounds like nothing more than a bunch of feel good positivity,
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  Speaker 1: I really think there's more there.
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  Speaker 2: You know.
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  Speaker 1: Beauty, real beauty is a powerhouse, you know, a powerhouse
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  Speaker 1: concept throughout the entire history of civilization. Beauty that's really
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  Speaker 1: what propels us forward. You know. The ugly and the
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  Speaker 1: negative they don't inspire people, they don't energize, and they
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  Speaker 1: don't propel, at least not in a lasting, meaningful way.
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  Speaker 1: It's beauty and the search for beauty. And the desire
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  Speaker 1: to preserve, you know, what's beautiful. Those are the things
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  Speaker 1: that inspire us. So how in the world does all
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  Speaker 1: of that tie into paint. Well, I really don't want
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  Speaker 1: to get too commercially here, but the reality is paint
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  Speaker 1: is one way to bring beauty into your space. The
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  Speaker 1: colors you choose, the atmosphere you create, they reflect what's
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  Speaker 1: beautiful to you. And when your home does that, when
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  Speaker 1: it reflects what's beautiful to you, it really does become
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  Speaker 1: a sanctuary from the chaos of the world around us.
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  Speaker 1: All right, that's the paint point for the week. It's simple,
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  Speaker 1: find what's beautiful to you and then give it the
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  Speaker 1: space it deserves. Even if it's just a room or
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  Speaker 1: a corner of your home, it matters. All right, let's
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  Speaker 1: take a break and when we come back, we're going
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  Speaker 1: to be digging into a floor refinishing project. That's all
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  Speaker 1: coming up next. Stick around, Welcome back. You're listening to
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  Speaker 1: the reco Light home improvement show sponsored by Benjamin Moore,
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  Speaker 1: and right now I'm joined by Ali Bride from Mustard
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  Speaker 1: Seed Beginnings. Ali, glad you could be here today.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks for having me. I'm really excited.
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  Speaker 1: So mustard seed beginnings. You've been on the show a
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  Speaker 1: couple times, but just remind people.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so I share DIY interior design content across social
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  Speaker 2: media platforms.
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  Speaker 1: All right, so you do all kinds of different projects,
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  Speaker 1: and recently you jumped into a pretty big one sanding staining,
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  Speaker 1: I think sanding staining refinishing your hardwood floors, And I
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  Speaker 1: want to talk about that project, and let's just start
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  Speaker 1: at the beginning. How big of an area did you
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  Speaker 1: end up redoing and what inspired you to take this
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  Speaker 1: on in the first place. It's a new.
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  Speaker 2: House, right, newer, so it's about twenty years old. It's newer,
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  Speaker 2: we're to you, new to me. Yeah, So we moved
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  Speaker 2: in October. I think the carpet was original. There was
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  Speaker 2: a couple of carpet patches in the office and then
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  Speaker 2: living room space that were just really tired and ready
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  Speaker 2: to be replaced. So we decided instead of replacing a carpet,
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  Speaker 2: we were just tying in old hickory floors that were
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  Speaker 2: already existing. So we had new hickory floors installed, which then,
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  Speaker 2: of course you have to refinish them and make them
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  Speaker 2: all match, so we did. There were it was factory
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  Speaker 2: finished floor, the original hickory floor that was there, and
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  Speaker 2: it was ready to be redone. Anyway about every twenty years.
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  Speaker 2: You really should redo your floors ten to twenty years.
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  Speaker 2: So anyway, yeah, wow, it was a lot.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, I didn't know you were trying to patch the
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  Speaker 1: two together.
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  Speaker 2: We did. We hired someone to do that and he
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  Speaker 2: did a great job. But then you know, we decided
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  Speaker 2: to save a little money and do the rest of
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  Speaker 2: it ourselves.
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  Speaker 1: All right, So that kind of gets me through this
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  Speaker 1: next question. I was curious about the condition of the floor.
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  Speaker 1: So the floors that were existing, bakery floors that were
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  Speaker 1: already there, Yeah, they were, like you just said, kind.
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  Speaker 2: Of in need of they were tired. I mean, they've
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  Speaker 2: just shown a lot of wear and tear on the floor.
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  Speaker 2: And so the factory finish that was on there was
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  Speaker 2: starting to peel up and bubble and just not look great.
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  Speaker 2: You could see a lot of sun damage in different spots,
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  Speaker 2: and like I said, you really should restand and kind
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  Speaker 2: of restain in your floor every so often when you
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  Speaker 2: have hardwoods, just as maintenance.
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  Speaker 1: So you've got that going on. You're looking at all
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  Speaker 1: of that. How how did you prepare for you know,
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  Speaker 1: I'm a planner and sometimes I never leave that stage.
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  Speaker 1: I live in the planning stage, which is its own fault.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, that's a big problem. But how did you
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  Speaker 1: prepare for this? That's a major job.
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  Speaker 2: It's a major job. This is our second time we've
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  Speaker 2: done this. The first time, like, nothing prepares you, really
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  Speaker 2: when you're living in a house because the last time
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  Speaker 2: we didn't live in the house and this time we did,
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  Speaker 2: so I didn't plant. We're a little more spontaneous. We
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  Speaker 2: just jump into it, figured out as we can go.
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  Speaker 2: But it was interesting, all right, Okay, we have a
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  Speaker 2: big Bernie's Mountain dog that we were taking in and
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  Speaker 2: out of the basement window. We were living in the
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  Speaker 2: basement area. There was a little like kitchenet down there,
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  Speaker 2: so it's okay, it worked out well. But you know,
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  Speaker 2: the window was our door for you know, three four
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  Speaker 2: days while we were doing the poly and yeah, it
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  Speaker 2: was it was a process.
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  Speaker 1: My goodness. So you didn't do a lot of planning
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  Speaker 1: and preparing ahead of time. You just kind of jumped in.
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  Speaker 2: We just kind of jumped in, and we were really
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  Speaker 2: at the mercy of when the installer could come and start,
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  Speaker 2: so that was about a week process for them to
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  Speaker 2: install the two rooms, and then he also did our
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  Speaker 2: staircase going upstairs, so they were there and then it
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  Speaker 2: was kind of like once they decided they were coming,
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  Speaker 2: you know, within like maybe three or four days, and
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  Speaker 2: then it's kind of just you just figure it out.
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  Speaker 1: So pulling the carpet, you guys did that yourself. We
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  Speaker 1: did do that way ahead of time, or did you
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  Speaker 1: you got the phone call.
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  Speaker 2: When we got the phone call, it was that process,
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  Speaker 2: like we came up. Yeah, it came up really easily.
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  Speaker 1: It really didcastic.
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  Speaker 2: Oh no, it wasn't terrible. Jordan did it. I can't
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  Speaker 2: say that I did it. Okay, he did it, and
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  Speaker 2: I watched the carpet.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think was so bad. Then you ripped out
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  Speaker 1: all the tax strips or on the edges, yep.
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  Speaker 2: We did, and that came up really easily too. So
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  Speaker 2: and I say that from coming from a nineteen forties
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  Speaker 2: house because it was always a little more difficult, you know,
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  Speaker 2: because materials different or whatever, and this stuff came up
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  Speaker 2: pretty easily. It's pretty straightforward. It was the only carpet
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  Speaker 2: that had been there, so it's not like you're messing
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  Speaker 2: with different layers or whatever. So it came up and
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  Speaker 2: there was plywood, and you know you're not looking at
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  Speaker 2: five different layers of floor.
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  Speaker 1: All right. So you got all of that up, everything
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  Speaker 1: ready to go. The guy comes in, installs the floor
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  Speaker 1: and marries it to the existing he does.
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  Speaker 2: He did a great job, yep, and so it just
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  Speaker 2: flows really well. We decided we have a double facing
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  Speaker 2: fireplace and then you know, hardwood floors on either side
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  Speaker 2: from the living room, and we decided to leave there
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  Speaker 2: was like a vertical piece or horizontal piece of wood
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  Speaker 2: floor there that we decided just to leave because otherwise
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  Speaker 2: labor intensive to take some of that stuff up and
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  Speaker 2: tie it in so it's cohesive. So we decided to
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  Speaker 2: leave that just for labor wise, and that made it
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  Speaker 2: go a lot easier too.
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  Speaker 1: So you have him come out ahead of time to
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  Speaker 1: he's got to scope it out, right.
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  Speaker 2: He did. He came out goodness, maybe like three months
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  Speaker 2: before and then he is, you know, in high demand
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  Speaker 2: and does a lot of larger homes, so he usually
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  Speaker 2: is on a project for several weeks. So it was
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  Speaker 2: just our job was small to him, so it was
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  Speaker 2: just kind of where he could piece us in at all.
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  Speaker 1: Right, so he gets it pieced together and then you've
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  Speaker 1: got the process of sanding it. You're listening to the
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  Speaker 1: Repco Light Home Improvement Show and I'm in the studio
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  Speaker 1: right now with Ali Bride from Mustard Seed Beginnings, and
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  Speaker 1: we're talking about a wood floor that Ali recently sanded, refinished, YEP,
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  Speaker 1: had installed and then did all of this. So now
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  Speaker 1: you've got the new floor installed, your old floor is there.
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  Speaker 1: Now everything's kind of married together. Now the sanding.
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  Speaker 2: Starts, right, Yeah, the sanding starts. So the new floor
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  Speaker 2: that they installed was unfinished hickory. And again, so the
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  Speaker 2: old floor was pret factory finished hickory, which you can buy.
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  Speaker 2: It's still hardwood. It just is finished somewhere else. It's
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  Speaker 2: not finished on site. And so what we didn't realize
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  Speaker 2: and what our contractor tried to tell us, which I'm
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  Speaker 2: a little stubborn, I'm like, you know, I can do it.
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  Speaker 2: It's gonna be easy. He's like, you know, just so
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  Speaker 2: you know, this may be really difficult to get off.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm like, well, we've done this before, it'll be fine.
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  Speaker 2: But then when we rented the Sanders and we started standing,
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  Speaker 2: I immediately called him within an hour because it started burning,
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  Speaker 2: like it smelled like it was burning and it was black.
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  Speaker 2: And so he came out and he's like, yeah, I
• 15:43
  Speaker 2: tried the finish well.
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: I used to be an aluminum oxide. I don't know
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: what it is.
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: I don't know either.
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: It's really really durable, those.
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: Prefs, it is, yeah, and so that means it was
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: really hard to get off, and he was right, So yeah,
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: I kind of like burned the first couple and smelled horrendous.
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: It was kind of like black and patchy, and I'm thinking, like,
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: we have run these floors this it's not good. But
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: it did come off. I think it took us. I
• 16:09
  Speaker 2: think we sanded for a week, like seven days. We
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: sanded and you.
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: Had what kind of equipment did you rent?
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: We rented the push behind sander, like a drum sander,
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: and then we had like I don't know what it's called,
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: little like edging sander, but it's big. It's probably, you know,
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: bigger than a basketball, and you go around and do
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: the edges. And then we also had to use my
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: husband used, oh what's it called. It's like a tool,
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: it's not a it to get in the corners. That
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: was our biggest hassle in the corners. Instead of going
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: around with the edger that's round, you have to get
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: in that triangle, which is difficult. So we had to
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: kind of rig a few things up to make that work.
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: To make it work, you know that we rent out
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: Maybe you don't know we rent out that on floor
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: machine that's made to Oh.
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: No, Dan, Yeah, why do you tell me?
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: Well, I didn't know you were doing this. And by
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: the time I realized you were doing it. See Ali
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: works with me. You know, we've gone back and forth.
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: We talk about all these different projects. Yeah, you're using
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: products from rep collect if we're going to get to
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: and by the time I realized what you were doing,
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: the sanding was over. Oh anything, Yeah, because you're just
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: going to be hand ringing. Oh wait till I can
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: say it on the radio and record your reaction.
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: That's a bummer. I'm sure that. Yeah, that's a good one.
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: Right on the.
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: Floor machine works is you can control it with one hand.
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: With what you're doing, you probably it's it's a fair
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: amount of control. I mean you've got to really rain
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: that machine, and that you rented this thing is just
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: super easy. Walks over the floor, it's got a vacuum attachment.
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: There's no dust there were you I was here. I
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: just you had moved too fast, you were too prompt. Yeah,
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: you jumped right in.
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah we did.
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: You'd have done your planning.
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: No, no, you know I'm not good at that if
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: we just missed.
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: So anyway, if you're doing this project, there is perhaps
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: an easier way than what Ali did. It's a rental,
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: so I'll put links in the show notes or information
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: in the show notes. Otherwise, just email me radio at
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: Repcolight dot com. It's on the west side right now,
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: west side of Michigan. We don't have a way to,
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: you know, conveniently transport that to the east side for
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: you guys out there listening, but west side listeners, we
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: definitely do have an option that might be easier than that.
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: My job, Yeah, it really would have. Like I said,
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: as I saw you were into it, I thought, not
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: much I can do at this point, Allie, looking at
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: the clock and thinking ahead doing my planning, I'm thinking
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: that we should probably take a break right now and
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: then finish this conversation on the other side. Does that
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: work for you?
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: Sure?
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: Of course, perfect, That's what we're gonna do. We're gonna
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: take that break. When we come back, we'll talk about
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: the application of the stain, the application of the finish.
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: Most importantly, we'll get to the end results of the project,
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: what you thought of it, and would you do it again.
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: We'll get to all of that in just a minute.
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: But stick around and we're back here listening to the
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: Repco Light Home Improvement show was sponsored by Benjamin Moore.
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: And right now I'm in the studio with Ali Bride
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: from Mustard Seed Beginnings. And Ali was here with me
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: in the last segment, and we started talking about a
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: project that she tackled around her house, a big project.
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: She refinished some hardwood floors. Basically, had some hardwood floors
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: down in some areas of the house. They were kind
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: of tired, they needed some refreshing. She had carpet in
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: other areas. She pulled the carpet up, had new hickory
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: hardwood floors installed and married together with the existing floor.
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: Then she undertook a sanding process to get all of
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: them down to the same point, down to barewood that
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: she could stain. And that's where we're at right now
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: in the process. Right you guys got everything sanded.
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: We did and we did, like I said, sand it
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: for a week and we did multiple different layers and
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: then we're ready to stain. So we actually used Repco
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: LIGHTE Snain and sealer. We chose walnut, which I feel
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: like is the perfect classic color. You know it doesn't
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: you know how some browns can kind of pull orange
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: or they pull a little dark. This one is so
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: it's literally perfect.
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: So you were using Finisher's touch. It's basically a relabeling,
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: a new branding of a product that we've had for
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: years and years and years. So while that you're mentioning
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: how some browns will go this color, that color, orange, whatever,
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: A lot of that's determined, you know by it can
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: be the color of the stain, of course, but it's
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: also the color in the wood, the wood. How did
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: you make sure you were going to get what you wanted?
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: I did a ton of sampling.
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, did you bring samples in the I did? You
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: didn't sample on your floor?
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: No?
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: That would have been really really.
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: We had some extra yeah, hickory floor that I brought in.
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: And then the guys at the seventeenth Street location was
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: super sweet and like, put all my samples out and
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: then I was able to decide which one that I wanted.
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so definitely, again, if you're in a process like this,
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: you you know, maybe best case scenario, it's a good
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: scenario for you. You've got extra scrap pieces, you know,
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: if it was just refinishing floors that were down. Now
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: it's a little a little more complicated, but you actually
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: had some scrap pieces you could bring in. Bring those
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: scrap pieces in because the wood really it's probably the
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: biggest determinant of what that color is going to look like.
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: Because you know, oak trim for example, I've seen that,
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: you know, gears back when we did tons of that.
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: But if the oak is redder, whiter, the same stain
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: on different pieces, it's going to look different. You would
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: never guess it's the same stain. So you did all
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: of that, You checked it out, made sure it looked good.
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: I did.
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: I kind of like let the traveling piece of sample,
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: would you know, go around each room so I could
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: really decide see the different lighting and make sure that
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: it was the perfect color. And it really was.
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: So you ended up with walnut yeap. Talk about the
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: staining process itself. What did that look like? How'd you
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: pull it off.
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: So, like I said, we're living in the basement, so
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: it's like a whole situation. But yeah, so the finisher's
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: touch scene is actually a little bit thicker, so I
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: feel like it was less mess I, you know, wiping stain.
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: I did thicker stain. There is a penetrating stain version,
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: which is just a slightly different application of why thinner.
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: You ended up with the wiping stain so it's easier
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: to work with one.
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: It was easier to work with and we applied it
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: with a sponge and then wiped it off with the cloth.
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: So I did probably like three foot sections where I
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: would apply and go back and wipe and then kind
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: of continue on in little in little sections.
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: And you didn't have problems with patchiness or anything like that.
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: You were able to blend it all di I did.
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I moved pretty quickly, which I shared on
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: social media.
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: But okay, and we'll post links to that or and
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: we'll talk about where people could find that so they
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: can check it out. In fact, since you're talking right now,
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: if they want to check it out before you finish
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: up the interview, how do they find it? Oh?
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: Sure, so you can go to Mustard Sea beginning on
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: Instagram's see beginning on Facebook. And then I also have
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: a blog which will the blog post for the flooring
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: will go live later this week, so it's Mustard Seed
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: Beginning dot Come.
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: So check that out if you want to see some
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: of these pictures along the way. So you do your staining,
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: did you even remotely run into you? Uh?
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: Uh?
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: Oh? I stained myself into a corner.
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: No, I didn't, but I do have to say we
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: did have one bad thing that happened, so I, oh, I.
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: Love bad things. Lay it on me out.
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: So when you're standing floors, it's really difficult, especially with
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: this floor, it's really difficult to see to make sure
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: like all of our heavier grit sandpaper that we had
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: to use to get all that floor off or the
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: factory finish off didn't still leave those sanding marks. Sure, sure, sure,
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: So I standed an entire room. It looked great, backed
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: up when we came back the next day again we're
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: living in the basement, went downstairs, came back the next
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: day after it was dry, and realized that there were
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: some vertical like things going against the grain in a diagonal.
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: After you stained it, after we stained it, so we
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: have to go back and rent the drum stander again
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: to do it. We took all the stain off. That
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: was a very sad day.
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: That's a bummer.
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: That was a big bummer. It took us, you know,
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: a few days and set us back a little bit.
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: And yeah, I definitely cried.
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: I was going to just ask where there tiers.
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: There were tears.
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: Tears, Yeah, so little drama along the way, just a
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: little bit. So you got that stain on after that.
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: After that we did it again, Yeah, and it was wonderful.
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: One after that it was perfect.
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: Looks great. Yeah, and then you get to the finish.
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: What did you pick again, Finisher's Touch.
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: We did Finisher's Touch in a oil based mat. So
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: the reason we got away with using an oil base.
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: Usually it would yellow overtime, but because we chose walnut,
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: it's a darker stain. Oil base gave us a harder finish.
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: We have a Bernie's Mountain Dog, we have three boys,
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: and you know, lots of traffic in and now the house,
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: so I really wanted to make sure that I had
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: something durable, and oil base was the way to go.
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: It's very stinky, yeah, not gonna lie.
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: Nope, there is that. You got to get those windows open.
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: We had all the windows open, the kids went away
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: for a few days, and yeah, we did three different
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: coats lightly standing in between, and it was a process.
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: It was, it was a lot.
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: So you went with a mat. We did welcome, not
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: a satin sheen.
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: I didn't want any sort of shininess on my floor.
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: I wanted it completely, Matt.
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: It's one of those tricks or one of those things,
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: you know. I think it's becoming more and more of
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: a thing, is to have that matte finish. Even the finish,
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: the factory finishes are coming out with a mat, which
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: is you know, it seems strange at the beginning when
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: we made that shift, but they've got the finish to
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: the point where it's really durable, even though it's a mate.
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: You know, I guess the best way to say it is,
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: it's just like paint on your wall. A mat on
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: the wall is not going to hold up, wash up
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: quite as well as the next sheen. But you've always
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: got to make that determiner where I go with this
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: and how shiny can I tolerate? And the satin sheen
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: is going to give you a fair amount of shine,
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: so I know, and.
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: It's one of those things like on my floors, I
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: want matt but I am all good on satin on
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: the walls.
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: Oh so you like satin.
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: I do like satin on the walls.
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: Well, you went with the flat on the floor, the
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: mat on the floor, the oil based product. You said,
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: it's not you know, it naturally yellows just a little bit.
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: And in some instances that can be you know, that
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: can be a negative. You know, it depends on the
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: color of the stain. It does, but with a darker stain,
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: you know, and honestly, with a lot of different stains
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: it depends, I guess on the color. But the deepening
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: of it, that ambering of it, really gives a very rich,
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: beautiful look over time. Okay, So that yellowing isn't always
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: a negative. You know, it can be if you're trying
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: to touch things up, but with a stain, you're not
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: doing a lot of that.
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think I was a little more hyper
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: sensitive to that only because the factory finished floor had
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: yellowed a lot.
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: Was it a darker color.
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: It was not. No, So it was almost like a
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: I want to say, it was almost like.
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: A natural that's where it shows up.
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: And then it was very like some spots, you know,
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: it was more natural. And then it was really darkly yellow.
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: It kind of looked a little dirty, just like I said,
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: it was tired overwhere. And so I was like, anything
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: not to yellow. Don't want anything yellowing.
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: No, if you're looking for you know, if you had
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: a natural color on the floor and you're going to
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: clearcoat that, you know, honestly, your best bet would be
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: to go to a water based yeah, varnish at that point,
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: and the water based technology for varnishes, we've got one
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: that will hold up just as well as that oil
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: base will. It takes probably one extra coat. It doesn't
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: build as quickly. Okay, so one extra coat, but it
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: won't yellow. So that's what you get with that.
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: Really nice if.
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: You've got a darker stain. You know, whenever I do
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: anything like this, if I've got a darker stain, I
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: always go with the oil for the application, you know,
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: I just I like the application of the oil a
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: little bitter do.
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: It kind of smooths itself out. We applied it with
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: a big brush, and you know, you're like a little
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: worried at first, like, is this going to you know,
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: you see your brush marks, and then it just all
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: kind of self levels, which is nice.
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: Now, yeah, I like the leveling, and I like that
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: yellowing a little bit when I've got a darker color.
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: If I've got something natural, definitely want to keep that
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: in mind. So application, you mentioned it a little bit.
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: You applied it just with a big brush, with a
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: big brush else that you'd use, no great big brush,
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: sat on the floor and.
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: Yeap, sat on the floor, brushed it all out. We
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: thought about doing, you know, like a roller, but really
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: I wanted to make sure that our coats were quite thick,
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: and yeah, just to have more control over the application.
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: All right, So how long did that take you to
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: get around?
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: There are, ever, there are.
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: Tricks that you can use and employ to maybe speed
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: that along a little bit.
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: I went to the chiropractor a few times that I did.
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: Wow. So this this floor has taken it. It has
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: on you.
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: It really has mentally and physically. I'm just kidding.
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: So about how long did the whole process takes?
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: Oh gosh, over a month.
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: Over a month. That's really not that bad.
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: It seems awful only because I'm living in the base.
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: Yes, it seems like it went pretty nice.
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, except for we're living there, and like I said,
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: like the first time we did this in our old house,
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: we were young, we were newly married, and we didn't
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: live there yet. We bought the house and we did
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: the flooring before we moved in, and so I just was,
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I had the skewed perspective that it
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: was going to be super wonderful, and it is wonderful.
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: The end outcome is worth it. But living with kids
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: and your animals in a house while you're redoing the
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: main area of your of the flooring, like you he
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: had to, like I said, go through the window. It's
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: just is so disruptive, way more than I anticipated. And
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: I'm a bit of optimistic too, so I usually look
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: at things in like a very positive perspective. But I
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: think I should have probably been a little more pessimistic
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: about this project.
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: I'm almost one hundred pessimistic. So I never started a project. Yeah,
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: but I need a balance. You need a balance as well. Yeah,
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: and then we'll be fully functioning in an adult Yes.
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: So Bernie's Mountain.
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: Dog, ye, right, Bernie names Maverick.
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: Bernie's Mountain dog named Maverick. How Shaggy is a Bernie's
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: Mountain dog.
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: They're quite hairy.
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: How did that play out with the oil based taking
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: so much longer to dry? Did you end up with hair?
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: I did not finish, thankfully.
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: You should check it out. Get on the floor and
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: look like, oh I did Okay, I have yes, so
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  Speaker 1: you survived.
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: That I did, yeah, somehow, and we again left him
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: in the basement. Yeah, and so you know we had
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: fans going the windows open.
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: I don't know in the right season so you can
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: get those windows over, yes.
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: And that's why we wanted to do it in the spring,
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: which ended up being the summer.
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: But yeah, it shakes out that way. So knowing what
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: you know now, would you undertake this project again? Would
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: you recommend it to others? Would you hire it out?
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: How would you handle it?
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: You know, in the middle of it, we're like, we
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: should have hired this out. But thinking about how much
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: money we saved because we did quote it out to
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: how much it would be.
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: How much do you think you saved? People will be
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: very curious.
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: About that eight thousand dollars.
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: Oh, we'll see that. You can suffer through a lot
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: of things for eight thousand.
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: Yep, I just kept telling them I'm saving eight thousand dollars.
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: That's three weeks at the groceries. Yeah, look at that
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: or more eight thousand dollars.
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: Would you recommend it to other people? You know?
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: I would. I feel like, if you are optimistic and
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: you are able to put in some grit, then you
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: could do it. But be I would say move out.
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't live there. Again. If I had had my
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: all my ducks in a row, we would have just
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: moved out. It wasn't in the cards.
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: And where would you have for a month.
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: We would have just, I don't know, got a hotel.
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: That's the thing. We don't have family around, so it's
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: not like we could just go live with you know,
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: in laws or Sneaky and Susie down the road, you know.
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: But yeah, I probably I definitely would have probably moved
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: out even during the like Polly stage to the hotel.
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: But again, well yeah, but then we have pets. So
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: it's like it's so multifaceted that you can't just it's
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: it's not an easy thing to do. No.
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: I think it just comes back to eight thousand dollars.
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: You could suffer through a lot, like you said, for
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: eight thousand dollars, and yeah, that was a lot, but
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: they would get it done in three days. And so
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: we did go back and forth and we decided, you
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: know what, we're going to do it and if this
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: really sucks, then we're just gonna suck it up and
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: hire it out and it'll be okay. At least we tried.
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: You love the end result?
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's perfect. I would do it again. I
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: would suffer through again.
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: So what's next on Alley's list of things to do
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: at your home?
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: Well, now I'm painting, go figure, I'm painting up our stairs.
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: We are going to be doing our office. So when
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: we did the floors, we had there was all built
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: ins in the office, so we ripped all of that out.
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: Now there's some holes in the wall that we got
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: a pad. We're going to do bookshelves and make it
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: like a little library. So that's going to be like
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: a winter project.
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: All right, Well, I think when you do that and
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: accomplish that, check back in.
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah it sounds good project. Do you have any tools
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: that I could use that make it really really easily?
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: Wait until you're done, Can that tell.
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: Me all your secrets?
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: And then I'll let you know what you could have
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  Speaker 1: done easier.
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: There you go.
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: That's my It's a position of power.
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what it is.
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: Makes me feel important. If people want to see we
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: already gave it out, but give it out one more time.
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: If people want to see photos, videos, any of that stuff,
• 32:44
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• 32:45
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• 32:48
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• 32:50
  Speaker 1: All right, Allie Bride from Mustard Seed Beginnings, thanks for
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: being here.
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks for having me.
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: And I apologize deeply about the floor.
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: I am I morting.
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: I didn't let you know ahead of them. All right,
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: we're going to take a break. When we come back. Well,
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: we're talking about the fall painting window. When is it
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: too late to be painting outside? We'll get to all
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: of that in just a minute. Stick around, and we're
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: back here listening to the Repco Light Home improvement show
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: sponsored by Benjamin Moore, and we're all ready to the
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: last segment. We have just zipped right through that episode.
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: And yeah, I've saved the best for last. We're gonna
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: talk about painting outdoors in the fall, So buckle up,
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: get excited. It's the big time. Seriously, though, as we
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: do head into fall, temperatures they're gonna drop, even though
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: it doesn't sometimes feel like it. I don't know that
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: they ever dropped. Last year. They did, they dropped, but
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: I think they plummeted. I think we went from like
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: eighties felt like all September long to about forty degrees
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: in rainy in the beginning middle of October. I don't
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: know exactly when things went, but the kids and I
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: were talking, that's what last fall felt like to us.
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: Hopefully this fall is fall. Hopefully we get to enjoy
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: a Michigan fall and get some nice, great you know,
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: sixty degree weather, sweatshirt weather, football weather, chili weather. If
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: you like chili, hopefully you're going to get the weather
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: to enjoy chili. Anyway, I don't know what I'm even
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: talking about. Let's talk about painting outside. When you're painting
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: outside and the temperatures have dropped, the atmospheric conditions have changed,
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: there really are some concerns that can crop up, some
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: things that you want to be aware of as you're
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: trying to wrap up some of these exterior projects. Now
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: fall is a great time to get these projects finished,
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: you know, it's a lot nicer to work outside when
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: the weather's in the sixties or the seventies. But painting
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: in cold weather can lead to issues like color uniformity, problems, peeling,
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: and even the paint not forming a proper film. And
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: then when you add a bit of moisture, you know,
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: like do or rain, while you could be looking at
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: all kinds of things like surfactant leaching, bubbling, water spotting,
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: and on and on and on the potential issues that
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: nobody wants. But of course, you know, of course there's
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: good news. That's exactly pretty much the only reason this
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: show exists is to dish out and dole out good
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: news on a weekly basis. And the good news here
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: is that, of course you can have great results painting outside.
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: You just need to keep some things in mind, and
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: we're gonna zip through them. First, let's talk about temperature
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: in weather. You know, ideally I already mentioned it that
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: you'd want to paint in the mid seventies with low humidity.
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: That'd be perfection, But that doesn't always happen. We don't
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: always get perfection, we don't always get what we want,
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: but sometimes we get what we need. Right, it's rolling stones. Again,
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: where am I going? Don't know? There are low temp
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: exterior paints for those low low temperature conditions. In fact,
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: pretty much all of the exterior water based products that
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: we carry at Repcolite, you know, whether it's a Repcolite
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: paint like Endura or a Benjamin More product, all of
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: them can handle temperatures down to about thirty six degrees
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: or so. So that's really good to know. But it's
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: not just air temperature that we're talking about. The surface
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: temperature is also critical. You've got to keep that in mind,
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: and it's really not surprising. Just think about it. A
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: dark surface in direct sunlight that can easily be hotter
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: than the air temperature, is right, The surface temperature can
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: be hotter than the air temperature, and a shaded area
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: that might be cooler than the actual air temperature. Is So,
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: even with these low temperature paints, both the surface and
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: the air temperatures should ideally be above forty degrees or
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: so for at least twenty four hours after painting. I
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: know the cans say thirty six degrees, but if you
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: want to give yourself like the really safe, really you know,
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: ideal rule of thumb, go with forty degrees for at
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: least twenty four hours after painting. So pay attention to
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: the temperatures when you're working, but also keep an eye
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: on the weather. You know, ideally, if there's rain in
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: the forecast in the next twenty four hours or so,
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: it's probably wise to hold off on painting, unless unless
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: you're going to use Benjamin Moore's element Guard. Now. Element
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: Guard it's newer product, and it handles low temperatures just
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: fine like all the other ones, but it also offers
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: extreme early moisture resistance. In fact, it's big claim to
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: fame is that just sixty minutes after application, if it rains,
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: you're good. You know, that's pretty much a game changer
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: for those unexpected showers that we get. We do get
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: in the fall. Element Guard it's like having insurance really
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: against weather surprises. It's reasonably priced, and honestly, amongst all
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: the other great products out there, element Guard really feels
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: like the ideal paint product for spring and fall painting
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: projects because of that, you know, that or early moisture resistance.
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: So keep element Guard in mind when you're painting, So
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: watch the temperature, watch the weather. Now let's talk about
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: the painting window. You know the times that you should
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: be painting and when you should wrap things up each day. Now,
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: this is going to vary, you know, based on the
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: weather and the tams. But a good rule of thumb
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: is to start painting mid morning once the dow evaporated,
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: and then finish in the early afternoon. That should give
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: the paint time to dry before the temperatures drop later
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: in the day and you should be good. Now. Few
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: last tips when you're painting outside, just very quickly here,
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: keep your paint at room temperature. If it's been sitting
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: in a cold garage, it might be too thick to
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: really use effectively until it warms up. So keep it
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: stored inside at room temperature. That's going to help you out. Also,
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: while you're you know, painting outside or getting ready to
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: paint outside, and you're keeping your eye on the weather,
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: don't forget about the wind. You know, windy conditions when
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: you're painting outside that can really blow. You know, literally
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: it can blow. You can end up with dirt, leaves, dust,
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: all of that in your freshly painted surface, and that
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: really stinks. It's tough to control when it's windy. But
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: you know, if it's significantly breezy and you're getting ready
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: to start, might be better to just pause and wait
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: a day. You know, if you've got a lot of
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: material around your project that could be blown into it,
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: might be wise to wait a day. But keep an
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: eye on the wind. That's something I always forget. Anyway,
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: there you go with the right paint and a bit
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: of planning. Fall can really be a great time to
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: get that exterior painting wrapped up.
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: Now.
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: If you do have any questions or you need some
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: product recommendations, just swing out to any Repcollite store. We'll
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: be happy to help. And that's going to do it.
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: That's all the time we've got. Whatever you do today,
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: make sure paints a part of it. Have a great weekend, everybody,
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: and I'll see you next week. I'm Dan Hansen. Thanks
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: for listening.