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The Charlie Kirk Show - France Burns + The Climate of Fear · Salem Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: My name is Charlie Kirk. I run the largest pro-American
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  Speaker 2: All right. Welcome, everybody. Happy Monday, October 19th, 2026. We
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  Speaker 2: are live from the YRefi Studios in Phoenix, Arizona. Honored
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  Speaker 2: to be with you all. Blake, how are we doing?
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  Speaker 5: You know, I feel a little gloomy today.
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  Speaker 2: Really?
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  Speaker 5: Because of what we saw over the weekend.
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  Speaker 6: I'm grateful it's not in my country, but I get
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  Speaker 6: really upset when I see bad stuff happen in Europe, actually.
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  Speaker 2: I do, too.
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  Speaker 5: Like, really bad stuff. And that was the big story
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  Speaker 5: throughout the weekend, as we're going to talk about.
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  Speaker 6: It's that France, a country with a lot of history,
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  Speaker 6: a country that's very beautiful, a country a lot of
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  Speaker 6: people have probably been to at least, well, I don't
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  Speaker 6: want to say probably, many people have been to at
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  Speaker 6: least once in their life, and they likely really enjoyed
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  Speaker 6: it while they were there. That country is becoming, along
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  Speaker 6: with Britain, just exhibit A to their exhibit B of
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  Speaker 6: what happens if you go too far down the leftward path.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: And what that means right now is it means gigantic riots,
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  Speaker 6: which there have been a lot of riots in France.
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  Speaker 5: But what happened this past weekend, Town.
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  Speaker 6: Hall in Limoges, a Bo Arts iconic building from about
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  Speaker 6: 150 years ago, extremely beautiful building.
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  Speaker 5: Just torched, destroyed by rioters.
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  Speaker 6: The Louvre right now, famous museum where the Mona Lisa
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  Speaker 6: is and about 10 million other famous paintings. It's closed
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  Speaker 6: right now because they have to worry about unrest in
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  Speaker 6: the city. And there's no signs that this is stopping.
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  Speaker 2: It's spreading. It's spreading to Lisbon and it's spread to
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  Speaker 2: Milan as well.
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  Speaker 6: Brussels, another very migrant heavy city. And it's a mixture
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  Speaker 6: of A lot of young migrant and migrant descended people rioting.
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  Speaker 6: You have the left defending it. I saw throughout the weekend,
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  Speaker 6: you saw all these takes from people who had the
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  Speaker 6: Hamas flag or the Gaza flag or that watermelon that
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  Speaker 6: they use as their logo because it has the color scheme.
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  Speaker 5: And they'll say things. This is one I just saw yesterday.
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  Speaker 5: Buildings can be rebuilt.
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  Speaker 6: Lives lost to cruelty and exploitation cannot. Don't want to
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  Speaker 6: lose beautiful historic architecture. Don't F with people's well-being. So
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  Speaker 6: making excuses for incredibly depraved behavior and saying, More of
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  Speaker 6: it will happen if you don't give us what we want.
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  Speaker 6: And that's the flip side of it. Why is that
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  Speaker 6: country in a gigantic mess? Well, they're broke, actually. In France,
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  Speaker 6: a retiree makes more money than a working person, and
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  Speaker 6: it's an aging country. And they're claiming, all these demonstrators
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  Speaker 6: are saying, we're rioting because our schools are underfunded. France
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  Speaker 6: has a higher percentage of spending coming from the government
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  Speaker 6: than the USSR in the year that it fell.
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  Speaker 7: Hmm.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, and that is a really big problem when
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  Speaker 2: you get those age trees that go up, right? And
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  Speaker 2: so you have very few young people supporting an aging gerontocracy,
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  Speaker 2: an aging retiree program that make a lot of money,
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  Speaker 2: that are guaranteed to have a lot of money. So
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  Speaker 2: it's a massive problem. They're not having new kids, so
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  Speaker 2: that's an issue. France, by the way, it's worth stating,
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  Speaker 2: typically had more children than some of the other Western
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  Speaker 2: European nations. It's still below replacement. But that is something
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  Speaker 2: that France has actually done better with than some of
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  Speaker 2: the other Western European nations. So this started, obviously, you've
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  Speaker 2: heard that this is supposed to be a student-led protest.
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  Speaker 2: They were originally, and this is kind of going by September,
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  Speaker 2: this was already starting. There was working class suburbs and
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  Speaker 2: poor school conditions that, you know, like teacher shortages, dilapidated buildings,
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  Speaker 2: these kind of things. And it started overlapping with a
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  Speaker 2: call to revive the Yellow Vest protest movement. Now, you
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  Speaker 2: might remember, yes, it is true, France tends to erupt
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  Speaker 2: in protest from time to time. It just seems to
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  Speaker 2: be about as sure as the sun coming up that
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  Speaker 2: France is going to have some protests and some rioting.
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  Speaker 2: But this has morphed into something way larger and way
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  Speaker 2: bigger and way more destructive than your average French protest.
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  Speaker 2: And all the pictures seem to indicate that there are
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  Speaker 2: a lot of migrant children or children migrants themselves, right?
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  Speaker 2: So they might be born in France, but they're still
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  Speaker 2: not exactly the image of a French student that you
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  Speaker 2: would have in your mind. They're burning, they're looting, and
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  Speaker 2: they're destroying beautiful French architecture. So it's a huge problem.
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  Speaker 2: And now it's morphed into this Antifa socialist communist.
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  Speaker 6: Energy, which is globbed onto this. This is Antifa Group Lyon.
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  Speaker 6: October 17th was a warning. That's the day that town
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  Speaker 6: hall burned down in Limoges. If you continue to develop
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  Speaker 6: a deadly capitalism and to fuel the rise of the
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  Speaker 6: far right, this day will repeat itself again and again.
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  Speaker 6: Calling for more order and authority is a grave mistake.
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  Speaker 3: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: So if you go online and you get deeper into
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  Speaker 2: the comments section, there's basically this debate about whether or
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  Speaker 2: not this is a communist revolution or whether this is
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  Speaker 2: a migrant invasion. And my answer to anybody asking that
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  Speaker 2: question is yes. Both are working in unison. Both are
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  Speaker 2: working together. And we know that Antifa groups, a lot
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  Speaker 2: of people don't know this, but Antifa has always been
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  Speaker 2: actually even worse in Europe. That's actually where a lot
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  Speaker 2: of this anti-fascist literature, ideology sprang up first. It was
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  Speaker 2: exported to the United States. Obviously, we have a problem here,
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  Speaker 2: but it's really bad in Europe, okay? And they tend
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  Speaker 2: to glob on to these migrant groups because remember, it's
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  Speaker 2: all intersectionality. It's like, who's the victim? Who is oppressed?
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  Speaker 2: We all come together. It doesn't matter if our ideology
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  Speaker 2: is at some level are contradictory to one another, we're
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  Speaker 2: going to use each other to usher in this radical, explosive,
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  Speaker 2: fiery change and revolution, okay? But we have to make
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  Speaker 2: it clear, there is a lot of Antifa, socialist, communist
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  Speaker 2: energy that is undergirding this. Check out this clip from
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  Speaker 2: Nick Shirley. He's on the ground in France. Pray for
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  Speaker 2: his safety. And he starts asking mass rioters if they're
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  Speaker 2: with Antifa. Here's their answer, Sat 9. Unarrested here in
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  Speaker 2: the streets.
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  Speaker 5: Street signs are getting taken down. And what organization are
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  Speaker 5: you part of? Are you part of Antifa?
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, Antifa.
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  Speaker 5: The streets of Paris are literally on fire.
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  Speaker 2: Police have moved in. Man, that's a lot. That's a
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  Speaker 2: lot going on, all right? So here's what's also, I think,
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  Speaker 2: fueling this, is that leadership in France, instead of cracking
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  Speaker 2: down on this... They're sounding very appeasing. Now, some arrests
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  Speaker 2: have been made, certainly, and they're doing some work to
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  Speaker 2: quell the uprising. But I think over 500 police and
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  Speaker 2: first responders have been injured in these protests. That's a lot,
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  Speaker 2: by the way, just while we're keeping track. 1,500 or
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  Speaker 2: so rioters have been arrested. There are over 500,000 of
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  Speaker 2: these people that have taken the streets, so a very
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  Speaker 2: small number. And listen to the tone of Emmanuel Macron today.
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  Speaker 2: as he's addressing this, okay? Stop four.
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  Speaker 8: The youth of our nation are expressing great anguish and
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  Speaker 8: concern about the future, the conditions of where their careers
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  Speaker 8: will take them, what role they will be able to
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  Speaker 8: play in society. They say that the future that they
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  Speaker 8: have is not one that we could desire. And I
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  Speaker 8: hear what they are saying. For the past 10 years,
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  Speaker 8: I've been fighting for them. So we need to pay
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  Speaker 8: heed to what they're saying. And we mustn't minimize the
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  Speaker 8: hardships that they are facing.
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  Speaker 5: It's very weak.
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  Speaker 6: This is always a bad sign.
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  Speaker 5: It was terrible when you saw it in 2020. When
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  Speaker 5: you concede, oh.
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  Speaker 6: This mob that has unlimited thirst for destruction, that loves
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  Speaker 6: to hurt innocent people, terrorize innocent people, try to impose
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  Speaker 6: its will, by violence on the vast majority of the public,
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  Speaker 6: when you concede, oh, well, they have valid grievances, you
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  Speaker 6: are losing the game.
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  Speaker 5: You have to send the message.
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  Speaker 2: He legitimized that.
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  Speaker 6: This is categorically unacceptable, and if you keep doing this,
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  Speaker 6: we will, well, let's be frank, we will shoot you eventually.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't think the French have that kind of
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  Speaker 2: gusto in them. You know what?
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  Speaker 6: That book everyone brings up, The Camp of the Saints,
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  Speaker 6: that's how it ends, is that they could stop it,
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  Speaker 6: and they just won't because it makes them feel too
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  Speaker 6: icky to use violence.
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  Speaker 3: Yep.
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  Speaker 5: So they lose their country.
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  Speaker 2: They're legitimizing the violence and destruction of... and it is
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  Speaker 2: a cautionary tale to the entirety of the West. This
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  Speaker 2: is what we are going to face, potentially even in America.
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  Speaker 2: They're talking about on November 20th, expanding what's happening in
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  Speaker 2: France to 12 other nations across the globe. You have
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  Speaker 2: networks that are praising this uprising and calling for it
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  Speaker 2: to spread. So is it going to spread here? I
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  Speaker 2: think that's a real question we should ask. But here's
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  Speaker 2: the cautionary tale for you. The left has embraced all
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  Speaker 2: of the underlying elements that have poured fuel on this
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  Speaker 2: fire and there is a woman that is going viral
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  Speaker 2: in france she is a store owner a shopkeeper and
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  Speaker 2: she tries to plead with the migrant and migrant youth
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  Speaker 2: that are inspired by this anti-fascist revolutionary energy to torch
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  Speaker 2: their city and loot buildings and stores. And she's pleading
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  Speaker 2: with them. She says, this isn't the cause. I support you.
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  Speaker 2: I've been voting for you. And they push her aside,
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  Speaker 2: tell her to shut up. And she's left gobsmacked, flabbergasted
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  Speaker 2: at the reality coming, crashing down around her. And she
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  Speaker 2: is becoming a meme, a symbolic totem for this entire movement.
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  Speaker 2: I guess, phenomenon. So let's play this. I haven't seen
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  Speaker 2: this clip. Hopefully it's descriptive. So that was in French,
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  Speaker 2: but we'd had subtitles and she's saying, stop. I'm with you.
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  Speaker 5: I'm with you.
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  Speaker 2: It doesn't matter.
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  Speaker 6: It's like the classic image from, was it Kenosha where
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  Speaker 6: it was the burning auto dealership or some sort of
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  Speaker 6: store and it had Black Lives Matter on the sign
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  Speaker 6: as the whole thing's on fire.
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  Speaker 5: And they're trying to run that con again, actually.
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  Speaker 6: So Jean-Luc Mélenchon, who's the, all pronunciations wrong or your
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  Speaker 6: money back, the far left candidate in French politics who's
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  Speaker 6: going to be running for president next year.
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  Speaker 5: And he's trying to run this op.
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  Speaker 6: He posted an image where it's, the non destructive riots
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  Speaker 6: that were happening across France in 20 cities where he
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  Speaker 6: goes crowds of people everywhere, calm and joyful everywhere. When
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  Speaker 6: the police aren't around images, you won't see in the
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  Speaker 6: official media. They are 100% trying to run in France.
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  Speaker 6: The mostly peaceful protests op.
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  Speaker 2: Which we have pre we have proof. Stop 14. This
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  Speaker 2: under underscores your point. Stop 14.
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  Speaker 9: In Paris and beyond, half a million people had filled
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  Speaker 9: cities across France to protest over the future of their country.
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  Speaker 9: They were mostly peaceful, but as we saw in the capital,
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  Speaker 9: in the wings were those who wanted to take advantage
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  Speaker 9: of the disorder.
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  Speaker 2: Mostly peaceful.
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  Speaker 6: And you just have to not give in to that lie,
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  Speaker 6: because even if it's mostly peaceful, the fact that you
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  Speaker 6: have that cutting edge of rioters who will burn, who
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  Speaker 6: will loot, who will hit you and will rob you
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  Speaker 6: and everything else, maybe kill you, that's what gives, it's
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  Speaker 6: intended to give menace to all the other peaceful protests.
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  Speaker 6: They are lying to your face, and any politician who
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  Speaker 6: indulges this mostly peaceful op, if they're doing anything other
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  Speaker 6: than demanding that anyone who violently protested be immediately arrested
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  Speaker 6: and thrown in prison themselves, that person is lying to you.
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  Speaker 6: They are allies of the rioters and trying to help
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  Speaker 6: those people get away with mayhem and.
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  Speaker 2: Destruction yeah well and it's interesting to me we had
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  Speaker 2: this other story that emerged this morning from elon musk
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  Speaker 2: he's going to be giving a share one of his
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  Speaker 2: shares of spacex to every kid in america and he
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  Speaker 2: says he's going to do this next year he's pledged
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  Speaker 2: it so 72 million kids in america that's about uh
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  Speaker 2: the shares are about 146 a share who knows what
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  Speaker 2: they'll be next year could be higher But that's around
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  Speaker 2: $ 10. 5 billion he's donating to the kids. And what strikes
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  Speaker 2: me is that in an era where you have these
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  Speaker 2: permission structures, when you have Macron pandering to the looters
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  Speaker 2: and to the rioters, and you have our elites funding
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  Speaker 2: the NGOs that create the intellectual and ideological subtext for
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  Speaker 2: these rioters to loot and pillage with impunity— And they
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  Speaker 2: are trying to deconstruct the system, right? They're looking for
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  Speaker 2: climate justice. You've got Bill Gates sending mosquito nets to Africa.
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  Speaker 2: And you have the Rockefeller Foundation working to increase farm
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  Speaker 2: yields in Africa. And you have Lorraine Powell Jobs working
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  Speaker 2: on LGBT rights issues and climate justice and racial justice.
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  Speaker 2: Here you have a man who gives directly, bypassing the NGOs,
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  Speaker 2: bypassing the consultant class and the grifter class, going straight
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  Speaker 2: to the American people, powered by Trump accounts, and giving
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  Speaker 2: it right to young people. And what does this do?
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  Speaker 2: And I want you to think about this in the
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  Speaker 2: context of what's happening in France. This gives young people
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  Speaker 2: a stake, a share of the American dream, skin in
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  Speaker 2: the game. They are now owners, not renters, not leasers.
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  Speaker 2: They will be owners of the American dream. You pair
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  Speaker 2: this with what Michael Dell has done, And this is
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  Speaker 2: the way that you inspire wealth creation. This is the
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  Speaker 2: way that you inspire people to not deconstruct the system
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  Speaker 2: that has blessed them. And they are too naive or
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  Speaker 2: ill-informed to understand their blessings. This is a way that
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  Speaker 2: you encourage them to love it and uphold it and
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  Speaker 2: to keep it and to preserve it. So God bless
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  Speaker 2: Elon Musk. This is true. And he says it's the
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  Speaker 2: first of many, by the way, Blake. But I remember
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  Speaker 2: Charlie was so excited about Trump accounts. He was so
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  Speaker 2: excited about the opportunities that this would give families to
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  Speaker 2: invest in their own children and grandchildren. You could win
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  Speaker 2: money at a spelling bee, and you could gamify it.
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  Speaker 2: But this gives people a share of the pie, and
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  Speaker 2: that is the way that you reduce radical politics. That
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  Speaker 2: is the way that you defame these anti-fascists, they're Antifa,
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  Speaker 2: these socialist communist energies across the West. So good on
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  Speaker 2: Elon Musk. What a tale of two stories on one day.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, it's the only.
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  Speaker 6: That is ultimately going to have to be the fix.
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  Speaker 4: It is.
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  Speaker 6: One of the great conservatizing phenomena you talked about is
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  Speaker 6: buying a home. And what that's about is it's not
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  Speaker 6: really that you feel successful. It's that you have your
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  Speaker 6: thing that you care about protecting. And most people fear
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  Speaker 6: loss a lot more than they desire gain. It's sort
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  Speaker 6: of one of our biases that we have in our head.
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  Speaker 6: And so a nation of small farmers, like America was
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  Speaker 6: in its early days, is innately a relatively conservative country
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  Speaker 6: because it's a bunch of people who know that it
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  Speaker 6: takes work to build things and things are easily lost,
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  Speaker 6: easily destroyed, and they care about protecting that little patrimony
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  Speaker 6: of theirs. So it's no surprise that when America was
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  Speaker 6: a nation with millions upon millions of small landholders, small businessmen,
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  Speaker 6: that we created a great constitutional system that has worked
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  Speaker 6: so well for so long. And in nations that don't
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  Speaker 6: have a lot of owners, you get This angry proletariat
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  Speaker 6: who are much more inclined to burn things down, destroy things,
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  Speaker 6: follow demagogues who say, I'll give you everything.
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  Speaker 5: You have nothing.
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  Speaker 2: But it's also great 3D chess from Elon Musk here.
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  Speaker 2: So Elon Musk, he understands that he is persona non grata.
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  Speaker 2: He is the main target when it comes to the
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  Speaker 2: anti-capitalist revolution sweeping across France and is trying to be
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  Speaker 2: exported across the West. Well, guess what? Now all the
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  Speaker 2: young kids are going to grow up being owners in SpaceX.
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  Speaker 2: they might care a little bit more about the fact
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  Speaker 2: that this billionaire, and maybe trillionaire, is giving money to them,
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  Speaker 2: giving them an ownership piece of one of the most
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  Speaker 2: innovative pioneering tech companies ever birthed onto the global scene.
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  Speaker 2: So it's really, really smart from him, actually, because it
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  Speaker 2: is a counter-narrative to the prevailing narrative that young people
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  Speaker 2: think that these fat cats don't care. We will always
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  Speaker 2: without further ado, we have Oren McIntyre from The Blaze,
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: host of The Oren McIntyre Show. Very smart guy. Oren,
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: I want to show you a picture. Let's throw out 149.
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: This is the French woman that has become... This is
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: oil on canvas. I got this from Redheaded Libertarian. It's
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: pretty funny. Woman confronted with the consequences of her decisions.
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: Oil on canvas, 2026. Liberal left-wing woman who said, I'm
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: with you. Don't loot my store. Don't do this to me.
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: And then they loot it and they push her out
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: of the way, tell her to shut up. I think
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: this is a fantastic allegory for the entirety of what
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: we're seeing in France. But there's so many angles here, Oren.
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: What is your takeaway when you see what's happening in France?
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: And do you think it's coming for us next?
• 19:38
  Speaker 10: I think there is a lot to be learned from
• 19:40
  Speaker 10: the French situation there. The first thing we should know
• 19:43
  Speaker 10: is that France took up the idea of civic nationalism.
• 19:47
  Speaker 10: They took this idea that anywhere and everywhere, France has ruled,
• 19:50
  Speaker 10: where French ideals have spread, there the people are French.
• 19:55
  Speaker 10: And so if you bring someone in and you incorporate
• 19:57
  Speaker 10: them into your society, it'll be okay. They actually even
• 20:01
  Speaker 10: banned public displays of religious imagery in the idea that
• 20:04
  Speaker 10: they would turn the entire country into into some kind
• 20:07
  Speaker 10: of secular utopian paradise where everyone could coexist. And instead,
• 20:11
  Speaker 10: we see the consequences of this, that the idea that
• 20:14
  Speaker 10: these people would ultimately assimilate, they would ultimately become French,
• 20:17
  Speaker 10: they would adopt French values, they would blend into the country,
• 20:20
  Speaker 10: that did not work. Even when they passed laws to
• 20:22
  Speaker 10: try to ban things that would ultimately signify yourself as Muslim,
• 20:26
  Speaker 10: as other, as different, that did not work. So when
• 20:29
  Speaker 10: we talk about passing laws, about banning Sharia law or
• 20:33
  Speaker 10: something in the United States, yeah, sure, do it. But ultimately,
• 20:36
  Speaker 10: the problem is the people being there. The presence of
• 20:38
  Speaker 10: the people themselves is causing this tension. And you can
• 20:42
  Speaker 10: ban anything or everything you want. You can tell yourself
• 20:44
  Speaker 10: that anyone can become French and that French values will
• 20:47
  Speaker 10: ultimately paper over all differences.
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: But that's just not true. And it's not going to
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: be true in America either.
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: Well, so this then becomes a question about... who should
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: you incorporate? The West has a massive immigration problem, and
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: we have a massive immigrant population. Countries like France spread
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: their rule across the world, and now they're trying to
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: incorporate all those people into their nation. The UK has
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: a similar situation. So who ultimately should the West incorporate,
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: or how should they incorporate them? Who should get franchised?
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: These types of questions are things that we haven't asked
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: In the West, really in a serious way, because we
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: approached it with this tabula rasa, everybody's the same, everybody
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: can be assimilated, but yet we've lost the will and
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: the self-confidence in our own cultures to demand assimilation. So
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: it just becomes this huge mess. And then the question is,
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: can you undo it? I think of in the United States,
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: everybody gets a vote. Doesn't matter if you're a welfare queen.
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: Doesn't matter if you're a public charge. It doesn't matter
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: if you just got here and were naturalized two days ago.
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: We give you the franchise. And then these people get
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: to determine the future of Western civilization.
• 21:55
  Speaker 6: And it's pretty scary, as he said, that France went
• 21:58
  Speaker 6: far more all-in on this idea of that, yeah, everyone
• 22:03
  Speaker 6: can be French.
• 22:04
  Speaker 5: Frenchness is just an idea. All of that.
• 22:07
  Speaker 6: Much more, like, it's not, the government is not allowed
• 22:10
  Speaker 6: to collect demographic data in France. So how white or
• 22:13
  Speaker 6: black or Arab is France, we don't know according to
• 22:16
  Speaker 6: official government data because they do not collect it. That's
• 22:18
  Speaker 6: the sort of thing they have done in France because
• 22:20
  Speaker 6: they hard committed to that idea. And what we see
• 22:24
  Speaker 6: is that that is getting thrown back in their face
• 22:27
  Speaker 6: by so many of these demonstrations.
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: It is a bigger question, though, right, Oren? Who should
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: be determining the future of your country? And the West,
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: I have to say, has a massive structural problem when
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: it comes to this.
• 22:41
  Speaker 10: Yeah, obviously, as you and I were kind of discussing yesterday,
• 22:44
  Speaker 10: democracy is a huge issue here.
• 22:47
  Speaker 4: When you grant the idea that.
• 22:48
  Speaker 10: The citizens or anyone who holds a paperwork that says
• 22:52
  Speaker 10: they are a citizen, they have the right to vote.
• 22:54
  Speaker 10: They have a right to determine the future of the country.
• 22:56
  Speaker 10: Then you're opening yourself up to the dangers of demographic change.
• 23:00
  Speaker 10: Most of the multicultural societies throughout history tended to be empires.
• 23:05
  Speaker 10: They tended to be ones in which there was a
• 23:07
  Speaker 10: strong authority in the center and they kind of negotiated
• 23:10
  Speaker 10: the differences between all these different cultures and people. But
• 23:13
  Speaker 10: when you're talking about democracy or much better, what we
• 23:16
  Speaker 10: should actually be aiming for is a republic. Republics are
• 23:19
  Speaker 10: built on the idea of a shared identity, a shared worldview,
• 23:22
  Speaker 10: a shared way of life. That membership inside that society
• 23:27
  Speaker 10: then grants you a say in what is happening there
• 23:30
  Speaker 10: because you've sacrificed for it.
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: You've served in the military. You own land.
• 23:33
  Speaker 10: You've demonstrated your ability to manage a household. You are
• 23:37
  Speaker 10: someone who has earned a right to have a say
• 23:39
  Speaker 10: in your society. When you have foreigners coming in on
• 23:42
  Speaker 10: a consistent basis who have not established this, who have
• 23:45
  Speaker 10: no history with the society, who have not absorbed the values,
• 23:48
  Speaker 10: do not have that long heritage and tradition tied to
• 23:51
  Speaker 10: who they are, and they step in in large numbers,
• 23:54
  Speaker 10: obviously they can quickly change where your society is going
• 23:57
  Speaker 10: through the democratic mechanism, which, to be fair, is exactly
• 24:00
  Speaker 10: what parties like the Democratic Party have explicitly said they
• 24:03
  Speaker 10: want to do. They want to replace the people of
• 24:05
  Speaker 10: the United States. The Great Replacement is not a conspiracy theory.
• 24:08
  Speaker 10: It is the Democratic Party's policy. They want to replace
• 24:12
  Speaker 10: the American people with foreigners who will be more likely
• 24:14
  Speaker 10: to vote for them. And of course, if those foreigners
• 24:17
  Speaker 10: come from even more dangerous places like the Middle East
• 24:20
  Speaker 10: with Islam and other very foreign belief systems like Hinduism.
• 24:24
  Speaker 10: then ultimately they irreparably change what's happening in your society.
• 24:28
  Speaker 10: So the very first thing you have to do is
• 24:30
  Speaker 10: you have to limit immigration radically.
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: We have to see this stop.
• 24:34
  Speaker 10: Now, to be fair to many European countries, I don't
• 24:36
  Speaker 10: know about France, I'm not as familiar, but I know,
• 24:38
  Speaker 10: for instance, in England, They have voted much like Americans
• 24:42
  Speaker 10: for reduced immigration for decades. And the leaders have lied
• 24:47
  Speaker 10: to me them every time they betrayed them every time
• 24:49
  Speaker 10: they haven't had a Trump who's come in and kept
• 24:52
  Speaker 10: good on the idea of closing the borders, shutting down immigration,
• 24:55
  Speaker 10: working on every avenue of reducing those visas and everything
• 24:58
  Speaker 10: else that are bringing large amounts of people in. They
• 25:00
  Speaker 10: have not successfully been able to vote for a candidate
• 25:03
  Speaker 10: who will keep those promises. And so they are extremely
• 25:06
  Speaker 10: frustrated in this moment because, The UK, France, all of
• 25:10
  Speaker 10: these countries desperately need real right wing candidates, candidates that
• 25:15
  Speaker 10: are very serious about shutting down immigration and will keep
• 25:17
  Speaker 10: their word no matter what. The fact that Marie Le Pen,
• 25:20
  Speaker 10: who's supposed to be this crazy right wing candidate, is
• 25:23
  Speaker 10: talking about how Islam does belong in France.
• 25:26
  Speaker 4: It's not very heartening.
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: Well, that is the silver lining here. But to your point,
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: maybe it's not so silver is the right wing is
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: surging in France and they were already ahead in the polls,
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: which is. Interesting. So this writing is going to have
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: political ramifications in the future. We'll see what it is.
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: You brought up the fact that other nations don't have
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: a Trump, right? For all of our frustrations, Oren, you
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: and I share them when it comes to Iran, when
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: it comes to some of the other decision making. President
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: Trump is singular across the West in one way. Look
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: at this. Under President Trump's leadership, he's used executive powers.
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: So basically foregoing the legislature. He has accomplished the largest
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: cut to legal immigration since the 1920s, since Calvin Coolidge.
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: Muslim and African immigration is down 90%. Okay, let me
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: repeat this because it's that big of a deal. The
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: largest cut to legal migration into the United States, this
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: is from the New York Times, since the 1920s. Muslim
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: and African immigration is down 90%. That is a huge,
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: huge accomplishment. So for me, You could be dooming about this, that,
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: the other. You could be mad about Epstein. You could
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: be mad about Iran. I certainly share some of those frustrations.
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: But when it comes to overall, what is the accomplishment,
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: the central accomplishment of the Trump administration is tackling the
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: issue of migration. He is singular in this respect. Am
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: I wrong?
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: No, not at all.
• 26:56
  Speaker 10: Look, I've said this several times and I'll say it again.
• 26:58
  Speaker 10: I am legitimately furious about the Iran war. I think
• 27:01
  Speaker 10: it was a Huge mistake that greatly derailed the administration
• 27:05
  Speaker 10: and some of the promises that it was supposed to keep.
• 27:08
  Speaker 10: But ultimately, Donald Trump has been, without a doubt, the
• 27:12
  Speaker 10: best president of my lifetime, especially on the issue of immigration.
• 27:17
  Speaker 10: We've heard for decades and decades from Republicans that we
• 27:20
  Speaker 10: simply could not close the border. We heard from people
• 27:23
  Speaker 10: like Dan Crenshaw that we had to pass a bunch
• 27:25
  Speaker 10: of legislation and get so much more statutory help and
• 27:29
  Speaker 10: everything else to make this happen. And the Trump administration
• 27:32
  Speaker 10: basically hit a button and closed the whole thing down.
• 27:34
  Speaker 10: I know it's more complicated than that. I'm giving them
• 27:36
  Speaker 10: credit here. But ultimately, the point is that they were
• 27:39
  Speaker 10: able to shut down this immigration in a way that
• 27:41
  Speaker 10: no other president, no other Republican has ever done or
• 27:45
  Speaker 10: would have ever done. And so even if I'm frustrated
• 27:48
  Speaker 10: with something like the Iran war, I'm not going to
• 27:50
  Speaker 10: go tell people, hey, go burn down your country because
• 27:53
  Speaker 10: you're angry with Trump over the war.
• 27:56
  Speaker 4: Sorry, like we are.
• 27:57
  Speaker 10: In an existential moment when it comes to immigration, when
• 28:00
  Speaker 10: we look at Countries like France, it's obvious what it
• 28:02
  Speaker 10: will cost us if the borders open up.
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: So, Oren, I do have a question because if you
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: go online, there is a bit of a debate at
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: a back and forth about whether this is a socialist
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: communist revolution or this is an immigrant-fueled wave of resentment
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: and frustration.
• 28:17
  Speaker 5: Por que no los dos?
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. Make the point and fuse those two together.
• 28:24
  Speaker 4: Communism has almost always simply been an.
• 28:27
  Speaker 10: Ideology that third-worlders use to loot people. the developed world.
• 28:31
  Speaker 10: That's what it's actually about. They know that Marxism doesn't work.
• 28:35
  Speaker 10: It's not like you can't look at the economy of
• 28:37
  Speaker 10: the Soviet Union and figure out that it failed. But
• 28:39
  Speaker 10: they don't care about the ideology and its success at
• 28:42
  Speaker 10: the end of the day because it's a mechanism to
• 28:44
  Speaker 10: redistribute money from the people who have it, the native
• 28:47
  Speaker 10: people of the United States, to people who do not,
• 28:49
  Speaker 10: foreigners coming in. So yes, there are some homegrown socialists
• 28:53
  Speaker 10: who are using the Marxist rhetoric and they are teaming
• 28:56
  Speaker 10: up with the immigrants to Go ahead and take your
• 28:59
  Speaker 10: money so they can build a strong client base.
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: That's true. But it doesn't have to be one or
• 29:04
  Speaker 4: the other. It doesn't have to.
• 29:05
  Speaker 10: Be just an ideological revolution or just a revolution about immigrants.
• 29:11
  Speaker 10: These two groups can work together because ultimately what they
• 29:14
  Speaker 10: want is to dismantle the United States as it exists now.
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: I think that's well said. I don't think there's any debate.
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: This is the thing is, you know, everybody's like, oh,
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: it's not funded. Well, there is people that are getting funded. OK,
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: there's NGOs and politicians and media apparatus that are giving
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: a permission structure. And the other debate is, oh, it's
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: not immigrants. It's anti-fascist. It's Antifa and it's like it's
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: all of the above, folks. These are their compatriots, their comrades.
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: in arms. They want to destroy Western civilization. Orin, we
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: got to talk about this. Elise Slotkin, former CIA, now
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: she's a senator from the state of Michigan. She was
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: asked about prosecuting the Trump administration, and she had an
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: answer that went viral, and I think you and I
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: texted about it yesterday. Let's play the clip, and we'll
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: get your response on the other side. Sat 16.
• 30:04
  Speaker 5: So that's what I'm saying.
• 30:06
  Speaker 11: I want to look at these signature cases and not
• 30:09
  Speaker 11: just focus on the president, but on the people who
• 30:11
  Speaker 11: enabled him. I want young people coming out of school
• 30:15
  Speaker 11: to say, should I go work for the Trump administration? Like,
• 30:17
  Speaker 11: that sounds fun. I might get an opportunity. I want
• 30:20
  Speaker 11: them to be like, Lord, that might be buying myself
• 30:23
  Speaker 11: a ton of problems that I don't want. And so
• 30:26
  Speaker 11: let me avoid participating in that. I want that deterrence message.
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: I have so many thoughts, Oren, but I'm going to
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: give you the floor. I think this is a much
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: more important clip than perhaps many in the audience realize
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: at this point. Explain your take on it.
• 30:45
  Speaker 10: Yeah, this is incredibly dangerous. Like, I can't even explain
• 30:49
  Speaker 10: how dangerous a statement like this is. I have been
• 30:51
  Speaker 10: warning for a while that this is where the Democratic
• 30:54
  Speaker 10: Party was going, but.
• 30:55
  Speaker 4: She announced it out loud and made it obvious.
• 30:59
  Speaker 10: We are in a scenario where now, functionally, democracy is over.
• 31:04
  Speaker 10: We had the Democrats attempt to kill the president, attempt
• 31:08
  Speaker 10: to remove the president. from the ballot, put the president
• 31:12
  Speaker 10: in jail so that he could not run again. That
• 31:14
  Speaker 10: itself is already an incredible threat to the idea that
• 31:17
  Speaker 10: there could be a peaceful transfer of power after an
• 31:21
  Speaker 10: election in the United States. Now, the Democrats are announcing
• 31:24
  Speaker 10: out loud that their strategy is to use the Justice
• 31:28
  Speaker 10: Department so thoroughly that they will destroy the idea that
• 31:32
  Speaker 10: anyone would want to work for a Republican administration, to
• 31:36
  Speaker 10: work for someone like Donald Trump. so that basically the
• 31:39
  Speaker 10: president would have no staff, no ability to put anyone
• 31:43
  Speaker 10: in a position of power because they'd be so terrified
• 31:45
  Speaker 10: of what happens once the next party comes in. That
• 31:48
  Speaker 10: means that if at any point the left gets into power,
• 31:51
  Speaker 10: they will effectively destroy the lives of anyone and everyone
• 31:54
  Speaker 10: who worked for the Trump administration in the hopes that
• 31:56
  Speaker 10: it will chill the political actions of younger Republicans, younger conservatives.
• 32:02
  Speaker 10: You cannot, cannot have a representative form of government, an
• 32:07
  Speaker 10: elected government, in an environment like this. You cannot have
• 32:10
  Speaker 10: an elected government where you actively use the government itself
• 32:13
  Speaker 10: to intimidate your opponents into ensuring that they would never
• 32:16
  Speaker 10: ever run for office or serve because ultimately you would
• 32:20
  Speaker 10: destroy them legally this is third world stuff you either
• 32:23
  Speaker 10: win or you die you win or you go to
• 32:25
  Speaker 10: jail you win or you have your life ruined we
• 32:28
  Speaker 10: are facing truly existential politics and the democrats are driving
• 32:32
  Speaker 10: as hard as possible to ensure that legitimate elections are
• 32:35
  Speaker 10: extremely difficult in the future and that any loss politically
• 32:38
  Speaker 10: could be existential.
• 32:40
  Speaker 6: And yeah let's let's drive that home like that's that's
• 32:44
  Speaker 6: how a lot of these regime a lot of nominally
• 32:46
  Speaker 6: weak democratic governments fall apart in third world countries is
• 32:51
  Speaker 6: that sense that, okay, I mean, look at Bolsonaro, for example,
• 32:55
  Speaker 6: that Jair Bolsonaro, he gave up power in Brazil and
• 32:58
  Speaker 6: his reward was he was promptly thrown in prison. Now
• 33:01
  Speaker 6: his son is running to get him out, but a
• 33:03
  Speaker 6: lot of drama is going into that. A lot of
• 33:06
  Speaker 6: Bolsonaros would make the calculation, well, if I'm going to
• 33:08
  Speaker 6: be thrown in prison on trumped up charges, if I
• 33:10
  Speaker 6: leave power, how about I just not leave power? And
• 33:13
  Speaker 6: haven't we seen that play out over and over again?
• 33:15
  Speaker 6: And now we're just inviting that to happen in the
• 33:17
  Speaker 6: United States. at some point in our history, after 250
• 33:21
  Speaker 6: years of unproblematic successions.
• 33:25
  Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean, this is the classic story of Caesar, right?
• 33:27
  Speaker 10: Why do you get Julius Caesar? Why does he take
• 33:29
  Speaker 10: power in the Roman Republic? Well, because if he handed
• 33:32
  Speaker 10: power back over, the Senate promised that they would arrest him.
• 33:35
  Speaker 10: They would throw him in jail, that he would pay
• 33:37
  Speaker 10: a price for not relinquishing power.
• 33:39
  Speaker 4: So he simply didn't. When you back people.
• 33:41
  Speaker 10: Into a corner like this, when you say either you
• 33:43
  Speaker 10: maintain power, you never turn power over, or else we're
• 33:46
  Speaker 10: going to destroy you, you incentivize them to say, well, fine,
• 33:49
  Speaker 10: then I guess I will not abide by an election anymore.
• 33:52
  Speaker 4: I will not follow the rules. I will retain power.
• 33:54
  Speaker 10: In fact, it doesn't even become an immoral decision at
• 33:57
  Speaker 10: some point, because if you turn over power to your enemies,
• 34:00
  Speaker 10: those that have declared that they're going to do damage
• 34:02
  Speaker 10: to you, they're going to harm you physically, physically, emotionally.
• 34:05
  Speaker 10: They're going to take away your freedom, lock you in jail. Well,
• 34:08
  Speaker 10: it would be immoral to turn power over your, over
• 34:12
  Speaker 10: your country to those people. Like it would make no sense.
• 34:14
  Speaker 10: for you to cede power to people who have already
• 34:17
  Speaker 10: promised they were going to destroy you and the people
• 34:19
  Speaker 10: that you love. This is, again, an incredibly dangerous type
• 34:22
  Speaker 10: of rhetoric that will surely bring serious consequences to our
• 34:27
  Speaker 10: system if it continues.
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: You know what I find really striking about this, and
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: I agree with everything that you've said, I mean, what
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: Elise Slotkin is doing here is basically saying, win or die.
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: And when you have a politics like that, it's not
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: It's no longer possible to do the peaceful transfer of power.
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: It's no longer possible to do business as usual. And
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: so I don't even think she understood just how radical
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: a thing she said was. I mean, but she said
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: it out loud. And frankly, there's a lot of Democrats
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: that already believe this.
• 34:58
  Speaker 5: And that's really part of it. It's just that mindlessness
• 35:00
  Speaker 5: to it.
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: Like, oh, yeah. It's really frustrating. But the other part
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: that's really rich is that they will now turn around
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: and accuse Donald Trump of being the one that has
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: weaponized the judicial system, right? Going after Ilhan Omar or
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: things of that nature. When we know it's the left
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: that has pioneered this entire thing. We know that it
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: is them that, as you said, tried to throw President
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: Trump in prison for 700 years, that tried to bankrupt him,
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: that ginned up E.G. Carroll, financed her civil suit, reversed
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: the statute of limitations law for one year just to
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: show that.
• 35:32
  Speaker 6: They basically had to invent four novel prosecutions to go
• 35:35
  Speaker 6: after Donald Trump. And it's not No one's been honest
• 35:38
  Speaker 6: about it because so many law professors hated Trump that
• 35:41
  Speaker 6: they were part and parcel to let's rewrite or rejigger
• 35:45
  Speaker 6: or reinterpret every law possible to put Donald Trump in prison.
• 35:48
  Speaker 6: They had four different– four criminal cases and a civil case,
• 35:52
  Speaker 6: and every single one of them needed a change to
• 35:54
  Speaker 6: the law, either an interpretation or statute.
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: That's insane. And to boot, it was Joe Biden– and
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: the auto pen that pardoned half his outgoing administration. So
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: they're the ones that understand. That was pure projection, by
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: the way. It was pure projection of their intentions against
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: Donald Trump of what they did on the way out.
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: So they know the game. They know the game that
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: they're playing, and they're not going to let President Trump
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: play it against them. But you had a tweet basically
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: saying that the fact that President Trump has not gone
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: after more could be a strategic blunder, if you will.
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: Explain that one minute left, Oren McIntyre.
• 36:28
  Speaker 10: Yeah, to be really clear, this is actually what Donald
• 36:29
  Speaker 10: Trump should have been doing to the Democrats. After they
• 36:32
  Speaker 10: weaponized the DOJ, after they went after Trump the way
• 36:35
  Speaker 10: they did, after they destroyed, you know, basically tried to
• 36:39
  Speaker 10: throw his staff in jail.
• 36:41
  Speaker 4: Ultimately, you have to have some kind of payback.
• 36:43
  Speaker 10: The only thing that creates an equilibrium in a situation
• 36:46
  Speaker 10: like this is tit for tat when you have to
• 36:49
  Speaker 10: push back just as.
• 36:50
  Speaker 4: Hard as you got pushed.
• 36:51
  Speaker 10: And if you don't, then ultimately they're going to take
• 36:54
  Speaker 10: advantage because they realize there will be no consequence for
• 36:56
  Speaker 10: their actions.
• 36:57
  Speaker 4: Donald Trump.
• 36:58
  Speaker 10: Has done great things on areas like immigration, but did
• 37:01
  Speaker 10: not do enough to punish the people who tried to
• 37:04
  Speaker 10: destroy him and the people who worked for him.
• 37:06
  Speaker 4: And he will pay for that.
• 37:07
  Speaker 10: They will see that mercy as weakness, and they will
• 37:11
  Speaker 10: push back twice as hard. It doesn't matter if Donald
• 37:13
  Speaker 10: Trump hasn't done the things we wish he would do.
• 37:16
  Speaker 10: They're still calling him a fascist. They're still treating him
• 37:19
  Speaker 10: as if he's some kind of tyrant, some kind of dictator.
• 37:21
  Speaker 10: And they will do anything and everything to stop that threat,
• 37:25
  Speaker 10: even if it's completely delusional.
• 37:27
  Speaker 4: You have to remember that.
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, sadly, I think you're right. He was just recently
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: asked whether he's going to pardon himself and his staff
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: on the way out. And he referenced the power of
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: a presidential pardon. And so I would expect that might
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: be something we could see in the future. Orrin McIntyre,
• 37:44
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  Speaker 2: What a huge day and weekend we had in Phoenix, Arizona.
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: We're going to be welcoming Colin Plume. We're going to
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: be shifting our focus a little bit to the economic
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: questions that are swirling today in just a second. But
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: I want to give you guys an update here really
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: quick in Arizona. Now, if you look at the traditional
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: polling that comes out of a state like Arizona, you
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: they will tell you Andy Biggs has no chance. The
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: truth is much, much more, I would say, encouraging for
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: us conservatives than that. Her own internal polling, somebody like
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: Katie Hobbs, she has the race at four points spread,
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: which is within the margin of error. And undecideds and
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: late breakers are going two to one for Andy Biggs.
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: But even more than that, we just got a big
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: new ballot drop, all from Maricopa County, 52,337 ballots came in.
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: It was Dems at thirty nine point one percent of
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: those ballots and Republicans at thirty eight point three percent
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: of those ballots. OK, so overall in the state of Arizona,
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: I think we have this graphic. We have thirty three
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: hundred seventy one thousand ballots in three hundred seventy one
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: thousand ballots in. Democrats are 40 percent even and Republicans
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: are at thirty seven point seven percent. OK, so what
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: does that mean? It means compared to this very day
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: in twenty twenty two. We are doing 2.3% better, Republicans are,
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: than we were in 2022. This, okay, the sky is falling,
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: chicken little, blue tsunami, all this stuff. And yet, 2022
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: was supposed to be a red wave year. Remember, it
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: turned into a red trickle. We are doing 2.3% better
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: than we were in 22, and Democrats are doing 0.2% worse.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: Just wanted to give you a quick little electoral update.
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: Joining us now is Colin Plume. He's the CEO and
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: founder of Noble Gold Investments. But more than that, he's
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: just a guru when it comes to all things macroeconomics
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: and really dissecting all the evidence that is out there. Colin,
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: welcome back to the show, my friend. Good to see you.
• 41:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, good to see you guys, too. Thanks for having me.
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely. And usually you come in person. And I
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: was like, no, no, no, Colin, I need you don't
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: have to fly to Phoenix. But I respect that you
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: like to hang out with us so much. So but
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: I do. We need you there doing doing the hard work,
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: my friend.
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 42:07
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: So here's the question. CPI came in a little hotter
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: than expected, 3.7%. We have big questions about whether the
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: Fed is going to raise interest rates again. So how
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: does the higher for longer rate environment, meaning that we
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: kept hoping that rates were going to come down, but
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: they were remaining higher for a longer period than we anticipated.
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: How does that affect the case for physical gold and silver,
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: inflation hedges, things like that? How are you thinking about it?
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: Well, I would just say that 3.7% inflation is a
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: far cry from the 2% mandate that they're trying to
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: get to. So that's the first thing. Also, it went
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: up 0.6% in one month. 0.6% in one month is
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: actually a massive jump. If we have 0.6% happen for
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: the rest of the year, that means by Christmas, inflation
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: will be 5%. So it's... they do a funny thing
• 43:02
  Speaker 3: with the math. They do these little 0.6. So it
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: doesn't seem like a lot, but that's just the one month.
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: If that continues, if that continued for a whole year,
• 43:10
  Speaker 3: we'd be above, above 7%, uh, inflation. So this is a,
• 43:15
  Speaker 3: this is alarming. Uh, if you look at polymarket in
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: different places that the likelihood of a raise jumped from
• 43:23
  Speaker 3: like 20% in the mid 40% range, uh, that they
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: could potentially, uh, you know, raise interest rates. So it's,
• 43:31
  Speaker 3: it is going to affect inflation is around. And unfortunately,
• 43:36
  Speaker 3: what the Fed's done, raising their rate to 4% with
• 43:40
  Speaker 3: inflation at 3.7%, it's like you're running on a treadmill
• 43:45
  Speaker 3: and you're staying in the same place. They're not really
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: doing anything. And the real rate on your cash in
• 43:53
  Speaker 3: the bank account is basically zero, if that makes sense.
• 43:56
  Speaker 3: So basically, the returns you're getting in a bank account
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: or Even in bonds, maybe it's a little bit higher.
• 44:03
  Speaker 3: I don't know if anybody would want to tie their
• 44:05
  Speaker 3: money up in a 10-year bond because typically those don't
• 44:08
  Speaker 3: do very well long term. But the little bit that
• 44:11
  Speaker 3: they've raised, it's not really helping people day to day.
• 44:16
  Speaker 3: And the last time we saw inflation go crazy was 2022.
• 44:20
  Speaker 3: It got up to 9%. And gold and silver went
• 44:24
  Speaker 3: sideways for a little bit. But as soon as things
• 44:27
  Speaker 3: leveled off, that's when we went on this historic run.
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: in gold. And gold was sitting in the low 2000s.
• 44:36
  Speaker 3: And then it rose all the way up to $ 5, 600
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: an ounce. So the CPI increase is actually, it's a
• 44:42
  Speaker 3: bigger number. It's just when they do 0.6, it doesn't
• 44:45
  Speaker 3: seem like a big number, if that makes sense.
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And obviously, a lot of this is being driven
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: by the energy markets, right? The spikes, the Middle East conflict,
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: all of that stuff is really feeding into this inflation.
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: And we're seeing it now in the CPI at 3.7.
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: And as you mentioned, 0.6 percent is a huge month
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: to month increase.
• 45:04
  Speaker 9: Huge.
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: And we don't want that. I believe it's temporary. But
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: explain that part of it. So do you think it's
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: going to be temporary or do you see it this
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: higher for longer thing? I mean, Blake's a believer that
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: rates are going to stay high for a long time.
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: I mean, that's you.
• 45:21
  Speaker 6: I just you look at other countries and they're not
• 45:23
  Speaker 6: changing behavior that causes them to go up long term.
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the thing. So I guess, you know. I'll
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: let you answer that first, Colin.
• 45:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, it's like the Middle East lights the match,
• 45:35
  Speaker 3: but Washington built the wood, the wood pile, right? You're
• 45:41
  Speaker 3: going to see these spikes continue to happen. But yeah,
• 45:44
  Speaker 3: gasoline was a big, big part of this story. It
• 45:48
  Speaker 3: did more than half the work in September. Energy costs
• 45:51
  Speaker 3: are up 20%, 20.4% this year. So it's a massive
• 45:56
  Speaker 3: part of the story. I tend to believe with what
• 46:00
  Speaker 3: Blake is saying. I don't think that there's any way
• 46:04
  Speaker 3: that they're going to be able to not increase rates.
• 46:07
  Speaker 3: And I think inflation is going to continue to go higher.
• 46:12
  Speaker 3: I think we need to get used to this. These
• 46:15
  Speaker 3: are the numbers. And so what do you do to
• 46:18
  Speaker 3: protect yourself against these things? And obviously, the bond market
• 46:22
  Speaker 3: continues to go higher. which is telling you a few things. One,
• 46:26
  Speaker 3: bond buyers think inflation is going higher because if they
• 46:30
  Speaker 3: didn't think inflation was going higher, they would gobble up
• 46:33
  Speaker 3: the bonds in the low fives. They must believe that
• 46:35
  Speaker 3: inflation is going to continue to skyrocket. And let's, We've
• 46:38
  Speaker 3: had inflation in the double digits in this country. I
• 46:42
  Speaker 3: know it was in the 1980s and people don't believe that,
• 46:45
  Speaker 3: but it can happen again. If you look at all
• 46:48
  Speaker 3: the government spending that we've done and all the debt
• 46:52
  Speaker 3: we've accumulated since really the early 2000s, we have created
• 46:56
  Speaker 3: more debt that will allow us to have tremendous inflation
• 47:00
  Speaker 3: and dollar devaluation. So I tend to agree. I don't
• 47:04
  Speaker 3: think it's going anywhere anytime soon. And I think the
• 47:07
  Speaker 3: Fed's hands are really going to be tied. I don't
• 47:10
  Speaker 3: think they're going to do anything in the next meeting.
• 47:12
  Speaker 3: But I believe before the end of the year, they're
• 47:14
  Speaker 3: going to raise rates again, which is they don't want
• 47:17
  Speaker 3: to do it. They know it's not good for us
• 47:19
  Speaker 3: because raising rates, it costs us more money on our debt.
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: Like if we're at $ 2 trillion in interest payments, as
• 47:28
  Speaker 3: we raise rates, it costs us more money because we're
• 47:30
  Speaker 3: borrowing against ourselves. And I know that's a weird concept
• 47:34
  Speaker 3: that raising rates costs us more money, but that's actually
• 47:39
  Speaker 3: what happens. It costs us more. So it's not good overall.
• 47:42
  Speaker 3: It's not good for us. And it definitely leads into
• 47:47
  Speaker 3: some assets are going to feel the effect of this
• 47:50
  Speaker 3: increase in our debt and the costs. And I think
• 47:54
  Speaker 3: we're going to see a pretty massive correction in the
• 47:56
  Speaker 3: equity markets because of it. Wow.
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: Well, that's a big prediction right there at the end.
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: Right there at the end of the sentence, you just
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: dropped that.
• 48:04
  Speaker 6: I just love this lingo. A pretty big correction in
• 48:06
  Speaker 6: the equity markets. The stock market will go down.
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: Yes, exactly.
• 48:10
  Speaker 3: I mean, I don't see how it won't. I mean,
• 48:13
  Speaker 3: if you look at the companies that are there and
• 48:15
  Speaker 3: you look at the debt behind those companies that are there.
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: By the way, call in. We didn't prep for this,
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: but circular financing is another big thing with this whole
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: AI boom. You got the, you know, folks buying their
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: customer stocks and circular, circular. Colin, I think people are
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: very unclear about the relationship between interest rates and the
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: bond yield and the price of gold and silver and
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: precious metals. Like, do they work, you know, opposite of
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: one another? Are they going different directions or is there
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: a lag? You kind of touched on this before, but
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: let me just set this up again. So we got
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: $ 2 trillion deficits. Debt around $ 40 trillion all in, and
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: now the 10-year yields are up around 5%. Does this
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: strengthen like a multi-year case for gold and silver, or
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: does it weaken it, right? What does that do to
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: the yields when it comes to gold? What's your prediction
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: on that?
• 49:05
  Speaker 3: Well, the one argument against gold is obviously it doesn't
• 49:08
  Speaker 3: pay a yield, right? It's you're buying a physical investment.
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: So some people would say these bond yields being higher,
• 49:16
  Speaker 3: maybe I should take advantage of that. But if you
• 49:19
  Speaker 3: go back any time over the last 100 years, bonds
• 49:24
  Speaker 3: have never outperformed gold. So as much as these yields
• 49:29
  Speaker 3: and they do pay a return, they are higher than before.
• 49:34
  Speaker 3: I don't think we're seeing a lot of people going
• 49:36
  Speaker 3: in and buying a 10 year bond. And for a
• 49:38
  Speaker 3: number of reasons, even though maybe that return is higher,
• 49:41
  Speaker 3: you're locked in for 10 years, right? You buy a
• 49:44
  Speaker 3: 10 year bond, or if you buy a 30 year bond,
• 49:46
  Speaker 3: you got to keep the money in there. If you don't,
• 49:47
  Speaker 3: if you don't keep the money in there and you
• 49:49
  Speaker 3: sell early, you won't get that return depending on where
• 49:52
  Speaker 3: the market is at that time. So I think that,
• 49:54
  Speaker 3: you know, looking at them, you know, everything is competing
• 49:58
  Speaker 3: against different investments out there. I look at what's on sale.
• 50:03
  Speaker 3: I think about Black Friday. I think about deals. Everybody
• 50:06
  Speaker 3: loves deals, right? Buying things in a deal. And I
• 50:09
  Speaker 3: look at gold and I say, gold is the biggest
• 50:13
  Speaker 3: deal in the market right now. It's 25% lower, 26%
• 50:18
  Speaker 3: lower than where it was in January. So at the
• 50:21
  Speaker 3: end of the day, it's all about return. So yes,
• 50:24
  Speaker 3: the bond's paying 5%. But if gold returns 8%, 9%, 10%
• 50:30
  Speaker 3: over a 5- or 10-year period, it will outpace that.
• 50:34
  Speaker 3: And that's why you're still seeing central banks who don't
• 50:38
  Speaker 3: typically panic buy or panic sell. They're not diving into U.S.
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: Bonds.
• 50:44
  Speaker 3: They're not diving. And that's part of the reason the
• 50:46
  Speaker 3: returns on bonds are going up is because so many
• 50:49
  Speaker 3: central banks are selling their bonds. They're getting away from U.S. bonds.
• 50:53
  Speaker 3: And so they're buying... tons and tons of gold and
• 50:58
  Speaker 3: they continue to buy. It's China has bought gold for
• 51:01
  Speaker 3: 23 consecutive months. They bought gold last year. They bought
• 51:06
  Speaker 3: gold substantially higher than where the price of it is today.
• 51:11
  Speaker 3: And they continue to buy it. So I look at,
• 51:14
  Speaker 3: you know, everybody loves a deal. Everybody, you know, everyone's
• 51:17
  Speaker 3: waiting for these black Friday deals that are coming. They're
• 51:22
  Speaker 3: But I look at investment deals, and I think gold
• 51:25
  Speaker 3: is just an amazing deal right now. It's just an
• 51:28
  Speaker 3: amazing opportunity to buy it.
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: At this discount. Yeah, I think that's super compelling. But
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: you're kind of like also the silver guy. I mean,
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: you were early on silver. So what do you think
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: about the mix between silver and gold, that ratio that
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: people should be looking at? Yeah.
• 51:43
  Speaker 3: So I, I, you know, we talked about this. Silver
• 51:46
  Speaker 3: was at a hundred to one ratio last year. There
• 51:49
  Speaker 3: is never a time you don't want to buy silver
• 51:51
  Speaker 3: when it's at a hundred to one, it's the best ratio.
• 51:53
  Speaker 3: And if you go back the last hundred years of trading,
• 51:57
  Speaker 3: it will always correct back. So it did. It's a,
• 52:00
  Speaker 3: it's about 60 to one now. So it's changed. So
• 52:02
  Speaker 3: silver is below $ 60 an ounce. And why is that compelling?
• 52:07
  Speaker 3: I wrote about it in my book, silver is a
• 52:08
  Speaker 3: new oil. But there is just a massive need for silver.
• 52:13
  Speaker 3: The sixth year in a row of industrial demand has
• 52:17
  Speaker 3: not been kept up by how much silver there is
• 52:19
  Speaker 3: above ground. So there is a deficit of silver every
• 52:23
  Speaker 3: single year. AI is going to play a massive part
• 52:26
  Speaker 3: of that. Everyone believes AI is going to play a
• 52:29
  Speaker 3: part in what's happening in the future. It's kind of
• 52:31
  Speaker 3: the new industrial revolution. Everything's changing how we operate business
• 52:35
  Speaker 3: and how we do things. Silver is... huge part of that.
• 52:40
  Speaker 3: And we're going to continue to need to get more silver.
• 52:42
  Speaker 3: So silver was at $ 120 an ounce. Now it's at
• 52:46
  Speaker 3: $ 56 an ounce. So there's a lot of compelling reasons. Now,
• 52:50
  Speaker 3: the thing about silver that's different than gold, gold is more,
• 52:53
  Speaker 3: you know, flat, it kind of goes in a different
• 52:55
  Speaker 3: direction in terms of growth, it's kind of like a
• 52:57
  Speaker 3: stair step. Silver today today is more volatile. So if
• 53:01
  Speaker 3: you're looking for something that has that huge potential swing,
• 53:05
  Speaker 3: silver is really that that metal. Gold is more of
• 53:08
  Speaker 3: the steady metal. And that's why a lot of our
• 53:10
  Speaker 3: clients will typically do a mix of gold and a
• 53:13
  Speaker 3: mix of silver. And they'll buy, you know, what we
• 53:15
  Speaker 3: do is we bullion, right? These are bullion coins. I
• 53:19
  Speaker 3: got 100 ounce silver. This is pretty heavy. This is
• 53:21
  Speaker 3: 100 ounces of silver. We sold a ton of these.
• 53:25
  Speaker 3: This is really, I think, a great way to store.
• 53:28
  Speaker 3: It's easy to put in a safe. You know, you
• 53:31
  Speaker 3: get away from all the numismatic value, having it in
• 53:33
  Speaker 3: a bar. So this is the stuff that our clients
• 53:36
  Speaker 3: are buying, and we're shipping it to people's doorsteps, and
• 53:39
  Speaker 3: obviously we can do IRAs. But both of these metals
• 53:42
  Speaker 3: are on a pretty significant discount from where they were
• 53:46
  Speaker 3: earlier this year.
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: So Colin, you mentioned that the central banks are still
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: buying like a ton of gold, ETFs, all this stuff.
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: They keep buying gold. They keep buying silver. What about
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: the retail clients? Are you seeing retail clients pick that up?
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: pick that trend up and they're doing the same or
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: retail clients?
• 54:02
  Speaker 3: Retail buyers in the U S are always last there.
• 54:06
  Speaker 3: And it's so interesting. So retail buyers last year at
• 54:11
  Speaker 3: second and third and fourth quarter started buying first quarter
• 54:14
  Speaker 3: this year, they're buying now they're selling. So they're actually,
• 54:18
  Speaker 3: unfortunately our retail buyers here in the U S are
• 54:22
  Speaker 3: going the opposite. And Blake, you probably, you understand the
• 54:26
  Speaker 3: psychology of, of investing. Like it probably doesn't shock you. Like,
• 54:30
  Speaker 3: people sell at the wrong time. They don't sell at
• 54:34
  Speaker 3: the peak. They're buying at the peak. And so, unfortunately,
• 54:37
  Speaker 3: the U.S. retail market is typically late. You know, they
• 54:41
  Speaker 3: weren't buying in 2023. They were buying in 2024, 2025.
• 54:43
  Speaker 3: They jumped in last, you know, end of 2025, they
• 54:44
  Speaker 3: were buying. I want to make sure.
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to make sure people know where to
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: find you. So it's noblegoldinvestments.com. Check out Colin and his work.
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: His team's doing great work, and you can trust him.
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: They know this inside and out. You can tell this
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: by the way he talks about this topic. Colin, God
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: bless you, my friend. It's too quick. We could have
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: kept going. Noblegoldinvestments.com. Check it out. Colin and the team today.
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: I talk about jobs and industries on this show all
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: the time, but I didn't expect to find an entire
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: skills trade community on TikTok. Plumbers, electrician, builders, and contractors
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: sharing the work they do every day. And it went
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: way beyond tips and tricks. People were sharing their craft,
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: connecting with local contractors, and talking about how they were
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: building their businesses and growing their teams. It opened my eyes.
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: to how people in the trades are using TikTok to
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: share their skills, make connections, and find new opportunities. I
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: remember thinking, this is exactly what we need more of,
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: people sharing what they know and creating opportunities for others.
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: And I never expected to find a community like this
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: that's the thing about TikTok. You start with something you know,
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: and suddenly you're finding a whole new side of it
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: that surprises you and leaves you wanting to know more.
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: Your next discovery is waiting for you on TikTok. Learn
• 56:08
  Speaker 2: more at TikTok.com slash discover more. And we're going to
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: turn our attention to Europe. We actually are having a
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: big sort of influencer event here on campus. Blake's going
• 56:21
  Speaker 2: to be speaking at it in just a little while.
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: I'm going to be talking with them or do a
• 56:24
  Speaker 2: Q & A. And we have one of them that
• 56:27
  Speaker 2: we have never introduced you to, and I'm excited to
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: do so now. Lorenzo Caccialupi.
• 56:33
  Speaker 3: Lorenzo.
• 56:33
  Speaker 12: Nice to meet you.
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: Nice to meet you, Lorenzo. We figured you would be
• 56:36
  Speaker 2: the exact right person to bring on today because we're
• 56:38
  Speaker 2: talking about France.
• 56:39
  Speaker 5: And Italy is a country next to France.
• 56:41
  Speaker 2: And Italy is right next door. And lo and behold,
• 56:44
  Speaker 2: the socialists and the Antifa types have now taken this
• 56:49
  Speaker 2: protest movement into Milan. And I can only imagine that's
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: just the start. Now, you are from Rome. But what
• 56:56
  Speaker 2: as a proud Italian, I mean, what are you looking at?
• 56:59
  Speaker 2: What are you hearing on the ground? What are your
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: friends and family saying back in Italy? Are they worried
• 57:03
  Speaker 2: about this?
• 57:05
  Speaker 12: People are getting worried, and they're of course right to
• 57:08
  Speaker 12: be worried right now. What is happening is very simple. Second,
• 57:12
  Speaker 12: third generation migrants, together with communists, are destroying our entire nation.
• 57:19
  Speaker 12: What started in France that didn't start last week, it
• 57:23
  Speaker 12: started maybe 10 years ago when we started welcoming waves
• 57:27
  Speaker 12: of illegal controlled migration coming mainly from Muslim countries, that
• 57:32
  Speaker 12: hate us, are destroying the country. And what we have
• 57:35
  Speaker 12: seen in France is just the beginning. We have seen
• 57:39
  Speaker 12: in Milan, but we are seeing it in all the
• 57:41
  Speaker 12: major cities. Exactly, that's Milan. We are seeing it in
• 57:45
  Speaker 12: all the major cities in Italy. They are looting stores,
• 57:50
  Speaker 12: burning down stores, burning down cars. They have injured hundreds
• 57:55
  Speaker 12: and hundreds of police officers just for trying to stop them.
• 57:59
  Speaker 12: And they're even going after civilians because some civilians that
• 58:02
  Speaker 12: are trying to oppose to this madness are getting assaulted
• 58:05
  Speaker 12: by these second, third-generation migrants and communists that have one goal,
• 58:09
  Speaker 12: destroy the West. That's what they're doing. And they're already
• 58:13
  Speaker 12: organizing for next week. There are chats of people saying, ah,
• 58:17
  Speaker 12: let's meet here, let's loot this store. People who have
• 58:19
  Speaker 12: worked their entire life are having these lives of sacrifice
• 58:24
  Speaker 12: destroyed in one hour.
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: How big is the problem... in Italy. You mentioned, because
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: I've said a few times, there's a, I think a
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: silly debate online. Oh, it's not, it's not the migrants.
• 58:37
  Speaker 2: It's the communists and the socialists. Well, they all work together, right?
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: They're all in league together. This migrant crisis situation with,
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: you know, you think Georgia Maloney is, is different than
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: the rest of Europe, but really the problem is persistent, right?
• 58:52
  Speaker 2: What's the vibe with Georgia Maloney? How is she doing?
• 58:55
  Speaker 2: How do you grade her, her work product?
• 58:58
  Speaker 12: Yeah.
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: How has the result been?
• 59:00
  Speaker 12: First of all, I've had the pleasure of meeting Giorgia Meloni.
• 59:05
  Speaker 12: I like her political party. The reason why we're not
• 59:07
  Speaker 12: seeing as much as we would like. like to is
• 59:10
  Speaker 12: that we have literally everybody against. We have European Union
• 59:14
  Speaker 12: that is dictating our migration policy. Because People in the U.S.
• 59:19
  Speaker 12: do not know, but the European Union is basically the
• 59:22
  Speaker 12: main cause of evil around Europe because if we were
• 59:25
  Speaker 12: to decide to stop welcoming illegal migrants, we would be
• 59:29
  Speaker 12: facing persecution from the EU and we would be facing sanctions.
• 59:33
  Speaker 12: Every European country is losing their sovereignty. We are not
• 59:36
  Speaker 12: able to decide about our migration. We are not able
• 59:40
  Speaker 12: to decide about our Green Deal, energy policy, about the farmers,
• 59:44
  Speaker 12: about the currency.
• 59:45
  Speaker 5: Nothing, nothing, nothing.
• 59:46
  Speaker 12: And in addition, we have the problem with the leftist
• 59:48
  Speaker 12: judges that sometimes we have migrants who are being expelled
• 59:52
  Speaker 12: from the country. And what do the judges do? They
• 59:55
  Speaker 12: rule that the expulsion was not legit and they bring
• 59:59
  Speaker 12: them back.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 5: That's what's happening.
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 6: Is there any energy for, you say they'll sanction you
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 6: or crack down on you to pick that fight or
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 6: alternatively to.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 5: leave the European Union, or is there no enthusiasm for
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 5: that yet?
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 12: I don't think it's even an option right now, but
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 12: I can give you a tangible example. All over Europe,
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 12: we are having problems with mass migration.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 2: Not in Poland.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 12: There is the great Polish politician that I know very well,
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 12: Dominic Tarczycki, recently gave an interview saying, if you come
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 12: to this border, we're going to shoot you. In Poland,
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 12: they just passed a law where if you try to
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 12: enter illegally, you can be shot.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 3: And why?
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 12: Because they don't want terrorists infiltrating in their country. But
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 12: what's happening to Poland right now? Since they're not welcoming
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 12: the migrants and they're not respecting the EU policy about
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 12: the migration pact, Poland is getting sanctioned every day for
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 12: not wanting to welcome illegals. And when people tell you
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 12: illegal migrants are not a problem, Why would you ever
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 12: say that? You are such a racist. Let me give
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 12: you some facts, and then we will see if statistics
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 12: are racist. In Italy, we have around 300,000 illegal migrants
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 12: in our territory. In a population of 60 million, this
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 12: is barely 0.5%. And they alone are accountable of 30%.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 12: of crimes in our country. 0.5% of illegal migrants. And
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 12: when people tell you, hey, yes, but... No, no, no, no.
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 12: Kick them out. 30% of crimes that's going to go
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 12: down in one day.
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 6: It just seems like, as you say, so if Poland's
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 6: standing up to it, they're able to take the sanctions,
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 6: what needs to happen for this to actually come apart
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 6: then if they're not ready to stand up to the
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 6: European Union yet? Maybe, let's say in France, if Le
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 6: Pen wins and then if we still have a conservative
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 6: government in Italy... Would that be enough that they could
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 6: defy the European Union? Or how do we get out
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 6: of this death spiral before Italy ceases to exist?
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 12: It's very difficult and complicated, but we've got to act now.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 12: If we're not going to act now, there will be
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 12: no country left to defend. And I always advocate for this,
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 12: even here in the USA, where I have the opportunity
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 12: to travel a lot throughout the years. If you're not
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 12: going to stop now, what's happening? You're going to cry
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 12: in 20 years. We are seeing a process of Islamization,
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 12: of political Islam, coming and spreading like a virus around Europe.
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 12: In Italy, we just had our first Sharia law council approved.
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 12: Now we are going to have a Sharia law building
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 12: that is going to judge. So they are going to
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 12: be the substitution of our Italian law.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 5: And this is not only Italy.
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 3: It's everywhere. It's everywhere in Europe. Jeez.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 2: This is a crazy video that came out of some
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 2: of the riots in Italy. And I love this because
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 2: there is this old-school Italian mindset. that this guy and
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 2: you completely, I just think, embody. 165, throw the B-roll up.
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 2: So this is a lone Italian man beating back all
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 2: these migrants and these migrant children with nothing but a
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 2: stick or like a baton or something. Here he is.
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 2: They're looting everything. Look at him. He's all buff and ripped,
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 2: and he's trying to grab them, and they're running from him,
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 2: and he ends up getting a couple of them here.
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 2: But this is like, I think a beautiful example of
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 2: a difference between the meme in France where the woman's like,
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 2: I voted for you. I support you. Don't loot my store.
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 2: And they tell her to shut up. This guy comes
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 2: out with a stick. This is the way you handle
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 2: these miscreants. Go ahead, Lorenzo.
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 12: That's what you've got to do. That's what you've got
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 12: to do. The time of talking is coming to an end.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 12: If the police is not able to do it, we've
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 12: got to go out in the streets and protect our
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 12: countries because they're destroying it. They want to take it away.
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 12: They want it to sink.
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 2: Together with us. Is somebody like you in Italy, do
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 2: they call you a racist? Are you... What's the media environment, right?
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 2: Because they went after Giorgia Maloney because the political heritage
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 2: of that party was sort of linked to Mussolini or
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 2: something in the past. So they're trying to go after her,
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 2: call her a fascist. She's not, obviously. But are they
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 2: still doing that? Is that still the playbook? You're a fascist,
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 2: you're a racist. All the time.
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 12: I'm a fascist, I'm a Nazi, I'm a racist, of course.
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 12: And I'm also... a servant of Israel, you know, I'm
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 12: a Nazi and a servant of Israel because I'm against propel,
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 12: you know, that's how it works.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 2: Cause you're against what?
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 12: I'm against propel movement, uh, destroying my country. Every, every
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 12: day there is a different occasion to go out in
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 12: the street and protest for Palestine. But what are the
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 12: products for the Christians being killed in Nigeria? I've never
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 12: seen them.
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 9: Why?
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 12: Because they do selective outrage and this is criminal.
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 6: So speaking of that, actually, uh, this is a slight
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 6: off topic, but I don't know when we'll have an
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 6: Italian influencer on again. Uh, How did the Italians feel
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 6: about having an American pope in Rome?
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 2: That was a whiplash. It's a total whiplash, but we're.
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 6: Talking about Christians, and I guess it stands out. How
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 6: is that going? Is there a noticeable change? Do people
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 6: complain about it, like it, get annoyed by it?
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 2: Or don't care.
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 12: So I would say mostly don't care. Personally, I don't
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 12: care where the pope is from as long as he's good. Now,
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 12: I'm sorry, he recently had a surgery for the lung cancer.
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 12: I hope he's doing all right. If I have to
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 12: express my humble opinion, I am not really a big
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 12: fan of this Pope because of some position he has
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 12: about political Islam, which I disagree. I think it should
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 12: be more harsh.
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 6: He spent America's 250th anniversary. He went to that island
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 6: that you guys get a lot of migrants on, I believe, Lampedusa.
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 12: And he prayed for the migrants who died trying to
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 12: cross the Mediterranean. But I've got a question to ask.
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 12: Why don't you pray for all the victims killed by
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 12: the same migrant that managed to cross the Mediterranean.
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 6: I just wish the Pope should look at that town
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 6: hall burning in Limoges, France, and remember that they, or
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 6: go look at the footage of Notre Dame burning a
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 6: decade ago, and just remember, like, there are a lot
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 6: of people who would enthusiastically do that to St. Peter's
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 6: Basilica and every other church in Italy.
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 2: So, we only have a little bit of time here, Lorenzo,
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 2: but you apparently got to ask Charlie a question. The
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 2: team is letting me know this, so I have to
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 2: play this, and one of his prove-me-wrongs. Sot 18.
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 12: I'm studying abroad from Italy for this semester. In Europe
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 12: we are having a big problem with illegal immigration. People
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 12: are coming, they don't respect our laws, they are being women, stabbing.
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 12: It's dangerous to go around. So I don't understand when
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 12: people come here to talk to you, liberals, saying that
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 12: they want to work on the... them because you don't
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 12: know who is entering your country.
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 3: Amen.
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: And I'll tell you, we need more legal immigrants like
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: you in this country.
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 2: I'll tell you what.
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 12: And it makes me upset that for me, for me,
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 12: it's difficult.
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 5: I'm respecting the law.
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 3: I'm here.
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 12: If I have to be here legally, I'm going to
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 12: go back to Italy because I cannot work. And it
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 12: makes me upset seeing someone that comes here illegally and
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 12: does whatever he wants.
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 3: That's it.
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 2: God bless you.
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: You want a hat?
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 5: If I can have a white one because I already
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 5: have a red.
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 2: A white one.
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 2: Make Italy great again. Okay?
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 3: I wish.
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 2: That's awesome. What a cool video. What a cool memory
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 2: for you.
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 5: It's an honor.
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 2: Charlie was the best. And I'm glad you had that
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 2: moment with him. Lorenzo Caccialupi, Italian influencer. You can find
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 2: him on Instagram at Caccialupi underscore Lorenzo. Caccialupi underscore Lorenzo. Great, man.
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 2: You are the spirit of Italy that that we all
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 2: love and that has made that country such a beautiful place.
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 2: So God bless you. Hold the line. Stay strong.
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 9: Thank you.
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 2: And we've got another influencer here. Again, we're doing a
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 2: big influencer event at HQ in Phoenix, Arizona. By the way,
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 2: we're at the YRefi Studios in Phoenix, Arizona. And now
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 2: we have Gentry Jeevers. Jeevers?
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 10: Jeevers.
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  Speaker 2: I got it right the first time. I follow him
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  Speaker 2: on X. I'm a big fan of your content, and
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  Speaker 2: this is the first time I got to meet you
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  Speaker 2: in person. So it's great. And he's much taller than
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  Speaker 2: I realize, which is always a good thing. You know,
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  Speaker 2: Charlie used to say there's actual privilege in the world.
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  Speaker 2: It's like the way your name's spelled. Charlie Kirk.
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  Speaker 9: Yep.
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  Speaker 2: What a great name. If you're going to be an influencer,
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  Speaker 2: Charlie Kirk. Charlie was also 6'5. How tall are you?
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  Speaker 3: 6'4.
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  Speaker 12: 6'4.
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  Speaker 2: All right. Well, there you go. So Gentry, you are
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  Speaker 2: originally from Seattle. Now you live in North Carolina, which is...
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  Speaker 2: There's a lot of doom and gloom about our politics
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  Speaker 2: right now. And sadly, North Carolina is not looking like
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  Speaker 2: it's going to go our way, at least from early returns.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe you can help with that. But North Carolina is
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  Speaker 2: a beautiful state. But you kind of are the epicenter
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  Speaker 2: for a lot of the collision of the Wokies and
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  Speaker 2: poor policing. This is obviously where we got Irina Zerutska.
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  Speaker 2: That whole story. And you are a story of a
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  Speaker 2: rural state that is very red, mixed with the... the
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  Speaker 2: research triangle that is very blue, and you get a
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  Speaker 2: lot of the worst ideas in North Carolina. So that
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  Speaker 2: probably informs a lot. a lot of your politics these days,
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  Speaker 2: I'm assuming. Cause you, you see this collision of the
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  Speaker 2: ideas right in your home on your home turf.
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  Speaker 7: Um, yes, in a way, uh, I'm very grateful to
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  Speaker 7: live in Charlotte because, uh, growing up in Seattle, it's
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  Speaker 7: this like crazy liberal hell hole.
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  Speaker 12: Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: If I can say that.
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  Speaker 8: No, it is.
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  Speaker 2: Um, socialist mayor.
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  Speaker 7: Oh, I, I think she's worse than mom Donnie, but, uh,
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  Speaker 7: I came to Charlotte, uh, a few years ago and I, I,
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  Speaker 7: I love it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: Uh, it's still more liberal than I would want it
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  Speaker 7: to be.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 7: But I like, it's like a, 50% off discount on.
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  Speaker 2: Life, really.
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  Speaker 7: The weather's solid.
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  Speaker 2: Weather's solid.
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  Speaker 7: The people are great.
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  Speaker 2: People are great. Some of the sweetest people. But you
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  Speaker 2: do have woke government, too, at the same time. Crime policy, specifically.
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  Speaker 7: Well, it's really that they're not following the law. And
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  Speaker 7: I've been talking to judges in Charlotte, some of the
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  Speaker 7: good ones, and we've been trying to figure out a
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  Speaker 7: way to actually get these judges to adhere to the law,
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  Speaker 7: one of the solutions I have is potentially getting a
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  Speaker 7: law passed that says that if a judge lets a
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  Speaker 7: criminal out, that they could be liable for the crimes
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  Speaker 7: that they commit. So either a fine or whatever kind
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  Speaker 7: of punishment. It's kind of in line with.
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  Speaker 4: Bartenders.
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  Speaker 7: If they over-serve, they're liable for that. So it's the
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  Speaker 7: same line of thinking. I don't think it'll ever get passed,
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  Speaker 7: but I think that we should definitely push that because
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  Speaker 7: it'll put them on notice. I can't prove this, but
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  Speaker 7: a lot of them potentially are funded by nefarious sources.
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  Speaker 6: It really is outrageous every time, and we see this,
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  Speaker 6: there's probably a story about this every couple of weeks,
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  Speaker 6: where it's one thing if someone just commits a murder
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  Speaker 6: out of the blue, but we have a very large
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  Speaker 6: percentage of our crimes are by people who are just
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  Speaker 6: known to police. They are nuisance criminals who And for
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  Speaker 6: whatever reason, it's considered good left-wing governance to not permanently
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  Speaker 6: lock those people up. And they'll say they can't– they're
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  Speaker 6: incompetent to stand trial, but they're apparently competent to roam
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  Speaker 6: around the street with.
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  Speaker 2: A knife and stab people.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So you tweeted out– and I love this tweet– that
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  Speaker 2: it is un-American to give up hope. Obviously, you are
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  Speaker 2: in the influencer space, the content creator space.
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  Speaker 5: Mm-hmm.
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  Speaker 2: There is a doomerism that is set in with a
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  Speaker 2: certain contingent on the online right, at least formally right now,
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  Speaker 2: a lot of them are voting for Democrats. I don't
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  Speaker 2: even know if we can call them on the right anymore.
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  Speaker 2: How are you interpreting this moment? And like, how are
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  Speaker 2: you addressing it? What do you hope to kind of
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  Speaker 2: inject into the zeitgeist?
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  Speaker 7: Well, my understanding of how America was founded is it
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  Speaker 7: was founded on this idea of hope for a better life, right?
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  Speaker 7: The pilgrims came over to practice their religion, you know,
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  Speaker 7: faith the way that they saw fit because, uh, Henry was,
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  Speaker 7: you know, doing a terrible job at it. And then
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  Speaker 7: it evolved from there, the American revolution. I mean, it,
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  Speaker 7: in a lot of ways, uh, we didn't really have
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  Speaker 7: a lot of hope because we were just farmers and
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  Speaker 7: other types of people.
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  Speaker 2: Going up against the greatest empire, the greatest powerful empire
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  Speaker 2: in the history of the world.
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  Speaker 4: Exactly.
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  Speaker 7: And so, uh, if, if you look back, if, if
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  Speaker 7: they gave up hope, they were based, it's basically like a,
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  Speaker 7: a self-fulfilling prophecy that you, you can't do it. The famous, uh,
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  Speaker 7: Henry Ford quote is, if you think you can or
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  Speaker 7: you can't, you're right. And so you're you're giving up hope.
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  Speaker 7: And I think that it's it's so short sighted to
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  Speaker 7: to look at midterms and say, oh, all hope is
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  Speaker 7: lost because, you know, Trump invaded Iran.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 7: It's it's kind of dumb because if you look back
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  Speaker 7: to 24, only two years ago, we won the popular vote.
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  Speaker 7: Like there's so many people that are done with the Democrats.
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  Speaker 7: They may not be sold on. on Republicans, but they're just, they're, they're,
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  Speaker 7: they're done with that.
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  Speaker 2: This is a key insight.
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  Speaker 3: Actually.
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  Speaker 2: You saw the new Pew poll that, that had, it
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  Speaker 2: was like 52% of young people are going to be
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  Speaker 2: voting for Democrats. Only 23 are committing to say that
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  Speaker 2: they're going to vote for the Republicans. The key insight
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  Speaker 2: of that Pew poll is that a quarter of those
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  Speaker 2: polled young people, 18 to 29 are undecided. They they're,
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  Speaker 2: they're not, they're not saying who they're going to vote for. Right.
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  Speaker 2: Which to me says, if you're worried, they're not going
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  Speaker 2: to vote Republican. Okay, fine. But they're not, rushing to
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  Speaker 2: endorse DSA.
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  Speaker 6: It's not the Obama era anymore. In the Obama era,
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  Speaker 6: there was a lot of hope and change, as we
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  Speaker 6: called it. They got really committed. They really believed it.
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  Speaker 6: These days, there's a lot more jadedness, nihilism, people checked out.
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  Speaker 6: And that's why there's a void to which leadership can
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  Speaker 6: be poured into. And it can be good leadership, or
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  Speaker 6: it can be very bad and destructive leadership.
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  Speaker 2: And this is what I say. They're not crying out
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  Speaker 2: for more DSA. At least the vast majority of them
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  Speaker 2: are not. They're not crying out for less conservatism. They're
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  Speaker 2: crying for results. They're crying for a change to the
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  Speaker 2: status quo. They want to see real change. And that's,
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  Speaker 2: I think, why a lot of them ultimately went and
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  Speaker 2: voted for President Trump. And whether they're frustrated about Iran
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  Speaker 2: or they're frustrated about Epstein, whatever, what is your message
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  Speaker 2: to those people that are feeling jaded, cynical, nihilistic?
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  Speaker 7: Well, this is in the politics of 20, 30 years ago.
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  Speaker 7: Both parties aren't pro-America, right? The Republicans definitely are. Democrats
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  Speaker 7: are not. I think the latest polling is like 65%
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  Speaker 7: of Democrat base is for socialism, right?
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  Speaker 5: The DSA has.
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  Speaker 7: Fully taken over the party. There was a thing in
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  Speaker 7: Congress and majority of Democrats couldn't sign it to say
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  Speaker 7: that we're capitalist. Socialism has never, ever worked. I mean,
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  Speaker 7: if you study history at all, you can just see that.
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  Speaker 7: And I don't want this country to go into that
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  Speaker 7: hellhole of, you know, communism, socialism, because frankly, and this
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  Speaker 7: is really selfish, I have a daughter and I don't
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  Speaker 7: want her to grow up in a country that is socialist.
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  Speaker 7: I want her to grow up in a country that
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  Speaker 7: she can be proud of and that she has the
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  Speaker 7: same opportunities.
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  Speaker 2: Prosperous. I mean, if you don't have economic freedom, you
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  Speaker 2: don't have any freedom. It's as simple as that. It
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  Speaker 2: is the most foundational. The right to property is the
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  Speaker 2: most foundational sort of liberal Western value of all. Gentry,
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  Speaker 2: where can people follow you, follow your work, your content?
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  Speaker 2: We're going to be talking in just a little bit
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  Speaker 2: over at the Influencer event. But tell people where they
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  Speaker 2: can check out your stuff.
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  Speaker 7: You can follow me on Instagram at Gentry Jeevers and
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  Speaker 7: follow me on X at Gentry W Jeevers.
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  Speaker 2: There it is. Gentry W Jeevers on X. Well, good, man.
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  Speaker 2: You better save North Carolina. Let's get our senator over there.
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  Speaker 2: Let's defy the odds.
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  Speaker 7: I would love that. Love that.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, we're not giving up on anything. The future is
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  Speaker 2: unwritten and we just have to show up to the polls,
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  Speaker 2: go vote, and you be the arbiter of what comes next.
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  Speaker 7: For more on many of these stories and news you
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  Speaker 7: can trust, go to charliekirk.com.