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How to change how you manage stress forever · Divas That Care Network

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  SPEAKER_00: Right now, though, stay tuned for another jolt of inspiration.
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  SPEAKER_02: Well, hello, everyone, and welcome back to The Divas That Care.
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  SPEAKER_02: My name is Candice Gish.
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  SPEAKER_02: Well, if this is your very first time tuning into The Divas That Care, a huge welcome.
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  SPEAKER_02: The Divas That Care is now in its 12th season, and we are listened to in over 30 countries around the world.
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  SPEAKER_02: So we're so excited about our program, and we're so excited that you've joined us today.
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  SPEAKER_02: I am very excited, everyone.
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  SPEAKER_02: We're going to be welcoming a brand new diva to our family, Paula Ruan.
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  SPEAKER_02: And I am so excited to have her.
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  SPEAKER_02: She is absolutely extraordinary.
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  SPEAKER_02: I had an opportunity to go to her website here, and I was really excited because she talks about symptoms of stress.
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  SPEAKER_02: And I know that...
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  SPEAKER_02: People from anywhere in the world, I think this is going to be a really great topic for us to talk about today.
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  SPEAKER_02: So welcome to the program, Paula.
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  SPEAKER_02: I'm so excited to have you today.
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  SPEAKER_02: Oh,
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  SPEAKER_01: thank you, Candice.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's really, really wonderful to be with you.
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  SPEAKER_01: We have a bank holiday here in the UK, so I feel really unstressed to have this call.
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  SPEAKER_02: I love that.
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  SPEAKER_02: And you know what?
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  SPEAKER_02: I'm going to be honest with you, Paula.
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  SPEAKER_02: I love your name.
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  SPEAKER_02: That's actually my middle name.
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  SPEAKER_02: So when I hear people that have that name, I'm like, oh, that is so cool because you don't hear it that much.
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  SPEAKER_01: No, you don't.
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  SPEAKER_01: You don't.
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  SPEAKER_01: Well, that's something else we've got in common.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yes, it is.
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  SPEAKER_02: So, Paula, one of the things that I always ask our amazing guests that come on our program is if you could introduce yourself to us.
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  SPEAKER_02: Tell us where you're from, the things you like to do, and then I'm going to ask you some awesome questions.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yes, so I was originally born on the north Norfolk coast and if anyone knows the UK, it's somewhere that no one ever goes to because it's just on the edge and there's not much going on there.
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  SPEAKER_01: One, it's a farming county and what I do is my husband had a heart bypass when he was 35 and I had three children under the age of five and I'd watched his whole demeanor, attitude, everything change Thank you so much for joining us.
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  SPEAKER_02: It doesn't even matter where you are in the world.
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  SPEAKER_02: You're stressed.
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  SPEAKER_02: There's so many things going on.
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  SPEAKER_02: We're overwhelmed with so many things that are happening.
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  SPEAKER_02: We seem to be pulled in so many directions.
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  SPEAKER_02: Tell me, why are we stressed?
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  SPEAKER_02: What are we looking
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  SPEAKER_01: for when we realize that we're stressed out?
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  SPEAKER_01: Things like bereavement, redundancy, teenagers, you know, new baby.
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  SPEAKER_01: We've always had these, but now you've got to factor in people having to be online, choosing to be online, and living glued to their phones.
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  SPEAKER_01: And that actually is why we're so stressed.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I've seen the levels rise in proportion with the amount of time we're on our phones today.
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  SPEAKER_01: So it really kick-started 2004 when Facebook went global.
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  SPEAKER_01: And instead of just being on emails in the office, which was what people were saying was causing stress then, but it was very mild in those days, Then people were leaving the office, leaving the emails, and starting on Facebook.
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  SPEAKER_01: And we know what that does to you, you know, if you're comparing yourself with everyone else's so-called perfect lives.
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  SPEAKER_01: So it's mainly about being online.
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  SPEAKER_01: And you also said there's so much going on.
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  SPEAKER_01: Well, turn the clock back 40 years.
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  SPEAKER_01: We didn't know what was going on.
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  SPEAKER_01: But now we're tuned in.
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  SPEAKER_02: You know, and I agree with that.
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  SPEAKER_02: Like, we're so...
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  SPEAKER_02: overwhelmed with, I think, what's going on and just being able to turn off the TV and turn off all the internet.
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  SPEAKER_02: Wouldn't that be great?
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  SPEAKER_02: And I always want to share that because I think a lot of people aren't doing that and they really should and it makes a world of difference.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: I pulled the plug out in 1995, and in the UK, we pay the government a license, and I wrote to the licensing authorities, and I said I felt that the programs were unsuitable for my children, and I wanted a refund, and they actually sent me a full refund.
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  SPEAKER_01: Oh, wow.
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  SPEAKER_01: And then we didn't have DVDs and streaming, so we just watched videos.
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  SPEAKER_01: And we chose one between us and watched it at a time that suited all of us.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I have to say, I was public enemy number one for a few weeks.
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  SPEAKER_01: But my eldest daughter, who's now in her late 30s, she said to me that it was the best thing I ever did.
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  SPEAKER_01: I love
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  SPEAKER_02: that.
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  SPEAKER_02: Okay, so let's dive into today then.
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  SPEAKER_02: What kind of advice can you give some of these parents then that their kids are glued to their phones, to the TV, to their computers?
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  SPEAKER_02: Because this is a whole new can of worms I think we've been opening up.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: So it's difficult because there's peer pressure and the danger time for children as far as the parents are concerned is between the age of about 10 and 14.
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  SPEAKER_01: That's when peer pressure is at its strongest point.
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  SPEAKER_01: So, you know, parents don't want to alienate themselves and cause extra upset.
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  SPEAKER_01: But if they could start with maybe just making a couple of hours available on a Sunday where no one has a phone and start like that, maybe all cooking together or maybe all going for a walk or playing a board game or looking through photographs or something that's not online, you know, having a project.
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  SPEAKER_01: And then seeing if they can increase that.
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  SPEAKER_01: I know there are all sorts of things they can do with the phone to prevent children from looking at unsuitable things, but I would encourage less in the bedroom where they're unsupervised and more in the living room.
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  SPEAKER_02: Maybe going back to those days that, you know, everybody turns off their phone at dinnertime and there's no TV and just having those conversations again.
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  SPEAKER_02: And it's really difficult because we all get lost in the shuffle of things and there's always something that has to be done.
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  SPEAKER_02: But in reality, we don't need to do those things.
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  SPEAKER_02: They can wait.
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  SPEAKER_02: I remember those days that our phone was plugged into the wall and I tell the stories to the kids and we had those conversations.
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  SPEAKER_02: We call them party lines because everybody was connected to the one phone line and you have to know which ringtone was yours in order to even know when to pick up.
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  SPEAKER_02: But, you know, we've got to go back to almost the older times when, you know, we didn't have to be on the phone all the time.
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  SPEAKER_02: We didn't have to be doing that.
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  SPEAKER_02: And I always tell my kids, get outside, go do something so that you're not glued to the TV.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: Those are all such important things.
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  SPEAKER_01: And, you know, you're lucky if your children are sporty.
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  SPEAKER_01: I'm not.
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  SPEAKER_01: I hated sports.
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  SPEAKER_01: And only my son is sporty.
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  SPEAKER_01: But, you know, if you can do something that they're interested in and join in, then that's really amazing.
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  SPEAKER_01: You know, going for walks.
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  SPEAKER_01: I mean, at the moment, with spring here in the UK, you know, the birds are building their nests.
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  SPEAKER_01: Children don't even know what the names of different birds are anymore, but probably you were more familiar.
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  SPEAKER_01: And there's so much they missed.
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  SPEAKER_01: That's a tragedy.
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  SPEAKER_02: I agree with you there.
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  SPEAKER_02: Oh, my gosh.
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  SPEAKER_02: Well, it's definitely something that I would love to have you back on the program to talk more about that kind of stuff.
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  SPEAKER_02: So let's talk about business in regards to stress because a lot of people started, changed their careers or did a lot of changes in the last couple of years, starting to work from home more.
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  SPEAKER_02: So can we talk a little bit about stress and how the symptoms and maybe some things that we can help these individuals with?
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  SPEAKER_01: Yes, so the main thing I think about working from home, if this is at all possible, is to have a designated work area so that it doesn't have to be a room if there isn't the space, but a corner that is only for work and also quiet.
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  SPEAKER_01: That is one of the big things.
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  SPEAKER_01: distractions drain our brains.
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  SPEAKER_01: Our brains are 2% of our body weight, but use 20% of our energy.
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  SPEAKER_01: And every time we have a distraction, it's like the fire alarm goes on to take us away from what we're doing in case the distraction is urgent or important.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's the way we're wired and designed.
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  SPEAKER_01: So if you can just be somewhere that's quiet and in a corner somewhere, Set your watch, your timer to work for that amount of time and then take a break.
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  SPEAKER_02: I love that.
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  SPEAKER_02: Because you feel like when you're at home, you need to be working even more than when you're not at home.
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  SPEAKER_02: So I really, I like that.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: I mean, the thing
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  SPEAKER_01: is, we're not always productive.
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  SPEAKER_01: One of my favorite books and authors is Seven Habits of Highly Effective People, Stephen Covey.
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  SPEAKER_01: And he talks about sharpening the saw.
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  SPEAKER_01: You know, and that the man cutting the trees gets slower and slower and it's harder and harder.
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  SPEAKER_01: And when a watchee and someone watching says, why don't you stop and sharpen your saw?
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  SPEAKER_01: Because obviously it'll be quicker.
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  SPEAKER_01: He says, no, I don't have the time.
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  SPEAKER_01: And this is what we do, isn't it?
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  SPEAKER_01: We get sucked into that vortex of must keep working when actually to have a break, to go out and recharge the batteries, to just walk around the block or, you know, just have a glass of water.
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  SPEAKER_01: Another thing you can do is walk in a small cigarette because that way you're loosening the hips and around the hips, is the first place that the body registers stress.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's the first bit for fight-flight.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's the psoas muscle that triggers the thighs getting us ready to run.
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  SPEAKER_01: So if we're getting irritating emails from people, every time we start to tighten our muscles unconsciously.
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  SPEAKER_01: So if you can just walk in a figure eight, you're actually moving your hips unconsciously.
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  SPEAKER_01: backwards and forwards, up and down, and that helps to release these chemicals that cause the tightness in the first place.
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  SPEAKER_02: I love that.
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  SPEAKER_02: I did not know that.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, we don't know about our bodies, do we?
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  SPEAKER_01: We know what makes our cars run.
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  SPEAKER_01: We know what a good sofa is, but we just don't know about ourselves.
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  SPEAKER_02: No.
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  UNKNOWN: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: And it's something that we need to learn more about.
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  SPEAKER_02: On your website, I like looking at this.
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  SPEAKER_02: You said, did you know that stress is the cause of over 95% of all illnesses?
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  SPEAKER_02: And I think that we need to really get that awareness out there.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you're right.
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  SPEAKER_01: You're right.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I think it's beginning.
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  SPEAKER_01: We are up against a different view on health because...
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  SPEAKER_01: We've become used to, and don't get me wrong, I'm all for intervention medicine and drugs, but we're not relying on ourselves and our own healing mechanisms.
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  SPEAKER_01: The minute we start taking something else externally, it's like saying to our own bodies, we don't need you anymore, you can stop working, because we've got this artificial help instead.
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  SPEAKER_02: Isn't that true?
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  SPEAKER_02: It's all part of that instant gratification that in society we're getting used to.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah,
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  SPEAKER_01: yeah, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: And yeah, I belong to the Stress Management Society in the UK and they did a survey and they asked people to finish this sentence when they're stressed.
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  SPEAKER_01: What I really need now is...
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  SPEAKER_01: And can you imagine there were four top answers.
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  SPEAKER_01: Can you guess what any of them are?
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  SPEAKER_02: No.
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  SPEAKER_01: What I really need now is a drink, a coffee, some chocolate or cake or sweet things, or a cigarette.
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  SPEAKER_01: And that was even with people who don't smoke anymore.
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  SPEAKER_01: Isn't that
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  SPEAKER_02: amazing?
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  SPEAKER_02: It's amazing.
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  SPEAKER_02: So one of the things I want to ask you, too, is that on your website, And it's beautiful.
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  SPEAKER_02: So for any of our listeners, I'm going to be posting Paula's information on her social media and stuff.
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  SPEAKER_02: But on your website, which I really like, is that you were exploring the symptoms of stress.
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  SPEAKER_02: And then you had some different stress things.
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  SPEAKER_02: And for people to find out more, let's talk about that.
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  SPEAKER_02: You work a lot with people that have issues with stress, you know, businesses and personal.
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  SPEAKER_02: So can we talk a little bit about that?
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  SPEAKER_02: Because I know it says here that, you know, click here to match with a therapist in minutes.
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  SPEAKER_02: So I'd love to learn more about that.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_01: So that's a questionnaire, very detailed, and it shows what impacts people like sleep, digestive issues.
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  SPEAKER_01: And that sort of thing.
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  SPEAKER_01: And depending on the level, it tells me whether they have the sort of stress that's to be expected and is just almost next to nothing, whether it's medium and it's becoming chronic but it's reversible, or if it's a score of 15 plus, then they really have to do something about it.
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  SPEAKER_01: And that's when they would speak to me or if it's something I don't do, if someone wanted a aromatherapist or another area, that's when I'd put them in.
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  SPEAKER_01: But stress impacts how we communicate because when we're stressed, we don't answer fully.
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  SPEAKER_01: We don't listen properly.
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  SPEAKER_01: So there is no area of our lives that stress doesn't impact in some way.
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  SPEAKER_02: Wow.
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  SPEAKER_02: Do you work with people all over the world or do you just work with people in the U.K.?
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  UNKNOWN: ?
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  SPEAKER_01: No, I work with them all over the world and I have, where it says for you on my website, I have an extremely cool voice scan.
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  SPEAKER_01: So people can contact me and then if they wish to work with me, I send a link and they just talk into their mic on their phone or their device for 10 seconds and And it throws up screens, and you can see a picture of the four main screens at the beginning, that shows me if their sleep's impacted, digestion, if the blue screen's stopping sleep, if they need to move around more.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's quite comprehensive.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's based on traditional Chinese medicine, but it's up-to-date algorithms.
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  SPEAKER_01: Isn't that
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  SPEAKER_02: cool?
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  SPEAKER_02: I've never heard of anybody doing that.
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  SPEAKER_01: Well, it's actually a UK invention, if you like, from traditional Chinese medicine.
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  SPEAKER_01: But now the head office is in the States.
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  SPEAKER_01: So the owner moved over there about five years ago.
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  SPEAKER_01: And yes, so we still have one office here in the UK.
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  SPEAKER_01: And we have the head office in the US.
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  SPEAKER_02: Oh, I love that.
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  SPEAKER_02: What a neat thing and a great thing to share with all of our listeners today.
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  SPEAKER_02: And you offer workshops also.
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  SPEAKER_02: I want to talk about that.
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  SPEAKER_02: Are these group workshops that anybody can join?
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  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_01: Sometimes I do public workshops.
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  SPEAKER_01: Usually it's for a company and it's for separate teams.
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  SPEAKER_01: But I do do open workshops as well, which I advertise on Eventbrite.
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  SPEAKER_01: and i haven't had any for a while actually because i've been quite busy but i'm thinking of doing one again and and if i do obviously if you'd like me to i can keep you posted on that candace it's the timing that's always a factor you know but i could possibly work it in so that it works for you i
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  SPEAKER_02: think that would be fantastic and i'd love to share that in our facebook group actually the changemakers cafe
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  SPEAKER_01: Thank you.
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  SPEAKER_01: Well, it would be a great pleasure because, you know, when my husband was so ill and I was an interior decorator with, you know, I was really busy, I know what it's like, you know, to be all over the place and to be trying to make your own mark while you still have to keep everyone happy.
• 17:40
  SPEAKER_01: And I think that's the biggest challenge most married family women or, you know, family working mothers have is that keeping everyone happy.
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  SPEAKER_01: you know, and still being true to yourself?
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  SPEAKER_02: You know, I'm going to say yes to that.
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  SPEAKER_02: It's something, and I'll be all honest, is that something that I've been dealing with, even in the last little while, it's just overwhelming.
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  SPEAKER_02: You know, there's a lot of stresses in this world, and trying to make sure that you're there for everybody, and sometimes, you know, for myself, I'm lost in the shuffle, and I don't realize that until it's almost too late.
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  SPEAKER_02: You know, I feel like all of a sudden it's like, oh my goodness, I better start doing something because I've really noticed a change in myself.
• 18:27
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and it's always like a consolation prize, isn't it?
• 18:30
  SPEAKER_01: We're never the winner.
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  SPEAKER_01: We're always the one, the bottom of the queue.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: We always want to look after everybody.
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  SPEAKER_02: And so for all the ladies that do listen to us, we really want you to look after yourselves because if you look after yourself first, then everybody else benefits.
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  SPEAKER_02: And that's something I've learned over the years and something I forget about.
• 18:52
  SPEAKER_02: And I think that's just being human, that we forget to do that.
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  SPEAKER_02: But if we really try to focus on doing things for ourselves, you know, we definitely make the people around us even happier.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_01: So here's a tip.
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  SPEAKER_01: Every day I do the Franklin planner thing of doing five important tasks I have to do the following day.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I score it in terms of priority.
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  SPEAKER_01: And then the lowest in priority, I cross that out and I put in something for myself and I make that number one so that I've done my thing before I then go on to do the others.
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  SPEAKER_01: And usually it's a very early morning walk, you know, on my own before everyone else is up.
• 19:41
  SPEAKER_01: I love it.
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  SPEAKER_01: That is
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  SPEAKER_02: beautiful.
• 19:46
  SPEAKER_02: You know, and I love that tip.
• 19:47
  SPEAKER_02: One of the things I always ask our listeners or, sorry, our guests that come on our program is something to give like a tip.
• 19:53
  SPEAKER_02: And I want to take that one because that's a fantastic tip.
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  SPEAKER_02: Do something for yourself before you even start.
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  SPEAKER_02: I know a lot of our guests that have come on here have talked about doing journaling and, you know, spending that time, you know, 15, 20 minutes every morning just taking it in and figuring things out before they even touch their phone, before they touch
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  SPEAKER_01: anything.
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  UNKNOWN: Right.
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  SPEAKER_01: I find doing that list the night before, when your head is still working in work mode, for me personally, it's easier to write down the work things for the following day.
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  SPEAKER_01: And then when I wake up, to put me first.
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  SPEAKER_01: And just to go out, especially now, you know, we have such, it starts to get light now at about 4.30, 5 o'clock in the morning.
• 20:42
  SPEAKER_01: and you know it's just so wonderful I don't know what it's like where you are but you know it's just so wonderful to go out for a stroll not to hurry and to just observe what you see if you can get to a park or a green space or even walk around if you're lucky enough to have a garden or sit out on a terrace I mean I don't you know everyone lives in such different environments and so on but Just to have plants close by, to hear the birds, to feel the sun, the breeze, you know, it's about connecting our senses with our natural world.
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  SPEAKER_01: And that's what's so missing these days.
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  SPEAKER_01: And, you
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  SPEAKER_02: know, I love that tip that you said to do the night before.
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  SPEAKER_02: And I bet you that even helps your sleep even better because you're not thinking about all the things that you need to think about tomorrow.
• 21:29
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, you've anchored it, you know.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's written down.
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  SPEAKER_01: You don't need to think about it again.
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  SPEAKER_01: Why would you when it's on a piece of paper?
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  UNKNOWN: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
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  SPEAKER_01: Oh,
• 21:39
  SPEAKER_02: my goodness.
• 21:40
  SPEAKER_02: Paula, I have had such a great time.
• 21:42
  SPEAKER_02: Is there anything else you would love to leave our listeners
• 21:45
  SPEAKER_01: today?
• 21:46
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, I would just say walking is how we learnt and how our brain likes to work.
• 21:56
  SPEAKER_01: So if you can walk, that's really powerful.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_01: Drink more water.
• 22:01
  SPEAKER_01: Move a bit more.
• 22:04
  SPEAKER_01: And just have something in front of you at all times, and I wouldn't necessarily make it people, by the way, because they come with the happy memories and the irritating memories.
• 22:15
  SPEAKER_01: Have something that you can look at that always makes you feel good.
• 22:22
  SPEAKER_01: You've just got to keep yourself feeling good.
• 22:24
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you
• 22:25
  SPEAKER_02: so much, Paula.
• 22:27
  SPEAKER_02: I really enjoyed our conversation today, and I do hope you come back on again soon.
• 22:32
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, thank you so much.
• 22:33
  SPEAKER_01: I've loved it too.
• 22:34
  SPEAKER_01: It's been so wonderful to be in touch.
• 22:37
  SPEAKER_01: And I've got a little feeling this is the start of a very beautiful friendship, Candace.
• 22:43
  SPEAKER_01: I do too,
• 22:44
  SPEAKER_02: honestly.
• 22:45
  SPEAKER_02: I love it.
• 22:46
  SPEAKER_02: Well, thank you again.
• 22:47
  SPEAKER_02: And as I said, I'm going to be posting all your information so that our listeners today can go and check you out.
• 22:53
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, thanks so much, Candace.
• 22:55
  SPEAKER_01: I wish everyone
• 22:56
  SPEAKER_02: a very happy time.
• 22:57
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• 22:58
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• 23:02
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• 23:03
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• 23:06
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• 23:09
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• 23:13
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• 23:18
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• 23:21
  SPEAKER_02: So I hope that each and every one of you has a fantastic day.
• 23:25
  SPEAKER_02: And please, please do something kind.
• 23:27
  SPEAKER_02: Until
• 23:30
  SPEAKER_00: next time, everyone.