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The Kenny Report | 21 October · The Kenny Report

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Speaker 1: Line from the Skying New Center. This is the Kenny Report.
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Speaker 2: Thanks for joining me for another week on the Kenny
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Speaker 2: Report tonight. Our national crisis in Islamist extremism. Why does
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Speaker 2: our government stand idly by while people preach hate? Senator
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Speaker 2: James Patterson joins me our vitally important northern neighbor, the
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Speaker 2: largest Muslim nation in the world, inaugurates a new president
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Speaker 2: and our Prime minister doesn't turn up. Why Albow shows
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Speaker 2: Perth and an ABC comedy show over the crucial Indonesian relationship.
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Speaker 2: I'll look at the Australian senator who's embarrassed the nation
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Speaker 2: today as the Royals visit Parliament House and the shift
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Speaker 2: I shared with you last week, Big tech turning to
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Speaker 2: nuclear power to fuel growing energy needs.
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Speaker 3: We feel that nuclear is a very important technology for
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Speaker 3: going carbon free for officers, data centers, communities where we
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Speaker 3: operate because an always ign corbon free energy resource.
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Speaker 2: Plus Donald Trump working at macas Kamala Harris forgetting she's
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Speaker 2: in office and claims four m and killed in training
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Speaker 2: last year were let down by our army.
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Speaker 1: Let's get cracking.
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Speaker 2: Islamist extremism is delivering a horrible toll of death and
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Speaker 2: destruction in the Middle East at the moment thanks to
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Speaker 2: Hamas and Hesbalah and other groups funded by Iran. But
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Speaker 2: it's also fermenting hate and division here in Australia and
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Speaker 2: posing an ongoing terrorism threat too. So why are our
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Speaker 2: governments and authorities not standing up against public advocacy for
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Speaker 2: this sort of extremism. The inexplicable inaction in combating extremism
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Speaker 2: in this country is deeply troubling. We've seen horrific and
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Speaker 2: hateful acts in this country, the celebration of the slaughter
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Speaker 2: of Jews, support for Islamist terrorist groups like Hummas and
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Speaker 2: Hesbalah and Yees yesterday, the lording of Yahya Sinwa. This
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Speaker 2: is the Hummus terrorist leader behind the October the seventh atrocities,
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Speaker 2: who was finally killed in Gaza last week, but sickeningly
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Speaker 2: was celebrated as a freedom fighter in Sydney yesterday.
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Speaker 4: He died warious amongst these men, one with his people,
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Speaker 4: in defense of his lands.
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Speaker 5: Of the NC.
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Speaker 4: Palestinian children slaughtered against the Joa Sailo and can like
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Speaker 4: you Wi and colonoid.
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Speaker 2: When you've seen footage of family slaughtered in Israel on
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Speaker 2: October the seventh, when you've seen footage of young girls
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Speaker 2: running for their lives from the Nova Musical Festival on
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Speaker 2: that day and then shot at point blank range by
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Speaker 2: Hummas terrorists and others who invaded get from Gaza, When
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Speaker 2: you've seen the evidence of the carnage, the evil, the
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Speaker 2: deliberate slaughter of innocence on a day when more than
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Speaker 2: twelve hundred people were killed and two hundred and fifty
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Speaker 2: were taken hostage, including children, children as young as nine
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Speaker 2: months old taken hostage. Well, when you've got any knowledge
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Speaker 2: of any of this, and you hold any trace of
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Speaker 2: humanity in your soul, I don't know how you could
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Speaker 2: do or say anything to support Humas or the other
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Speaker 2: terror groups, much less the despicable Hummas leader Sinhwa now
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Speaker 2: gone thankfully, But just to get a clearer understanding of
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Speaker 2: his evil intent, you only have to look at this
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Speaker 2: footage of Sinewa moving his family to safety in the
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Speaker 2: Hummas tunnels below Gaza before the October the seventh atrocities
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Speaker 2: before them. That means, of course, that this was long
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Speaker 2: before any Israeli military response.
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Speaker 1: What this makes plain.
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Speaker 2: For those who have refused to see this reality previously,
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Speaker 2: It makes plain that Sinhwa knew their would be war.
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Speaker 2: He knew the atrocities he was about to unleash on
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Speaker 2: civilians in Israel would result in carnage for his own
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Speaker 2: people in Gaza. He deliberately ensured that, along with his
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Speaker 2: terrorist foot soldiers, thousands of innocent Palestinians would be traumatized
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Speaker 2: and injured and killed in the ensuing war. Sinwa deliberately
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Speaker 2: started a war, deliberately provoked death and destruction on his
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Speaker 2: own people in order to advance his Islamist extremist agender.
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Speaker 2: It's all about creating Palestinian victims to inflame hatred against
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Speaker 2: Israel in the Arab world, in the broader Muslim world,
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Speaker 2: and across the international community. Sinwa hid underground with his family,
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Speaker 2: knowing the people he claims to lead would be suffering
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Speaker 2: above ground. It was as evil and as cynical as that,
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Speaker 2: and so many useful idiots support it, even in this country.
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Speaker 4: In his dead he became a legend, a legend to
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Speaker 4: be charged for centuries for a story to live on.
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Speaker 4: Jeez fire, Jeez fire resistance law.
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Speaker 1: Around the world.
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Speaker 2: If ever, we needed evidence that our governments and law
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Speaker 2: enforcement authorities are letting us down there. It was yesterday,
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Speaker 2: this hateful extremism was preached, and our law enforcement authorities
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Speaker 2: and governments did nothing. It's more than a year now
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Speaker 2: since we heard this at the Opera House, and it's
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Speaker 2: more than a year since we heard this in a
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Speaker 2: Sydney suburb.
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Speaker 6: I'm smiling and I'm happy.
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Speaker 1: That's a day of courage.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's been all that, and there's been protests and intimidation.
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Speaker 2: We've seen Hamas and Hezbalah flags waived. We've seen threats
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Speaker 2: and graffiti and vilification, and we've seen the Muslim fundamentalist
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Speaker 2: organization his book to Rea, involved in many protests, even
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Speaker 2: though it's banned in the UK as a terrorist organization
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Speaker 2: and banned also in many Muslim nations. But we've seen
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Speaker 2: nothing but in action from our own government. They just
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Speaker 2: let this happen. No arrests or charges means no deterrent.
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Speaker 2: No deterrent means it gets worse. And when it gets worse,
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Speaker 2: our social cohesion is fractured, and we face the prospect
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Speaker 2: that extremism could deliver even more violence than we've seen
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Speaker 2: over the past two decades in this country.
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Speaker 1: While all this unfolds about.
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Speaker 2: The only thing our national government has done is raised
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Speaker 2: the terror alert to probable. This inaction is recklessly dangerous.
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Speaker 2: I put these issues to Shadow Home Affairs Minister Senator
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Speaker 2: James Patterson Chris.
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Speaker 7: For twelve months now, we've had a festering extremism crisis
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Speaker 7: in this country and far from getting better, it's now
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Speaker 7: getting worse. It is absolutely extraordinary to see people proudly
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Speaker 7: and publicly holding photos and praising Yaya Sinwa, a deceased
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Speaker 7: terrorist commander of a listed terrorist organization in Australia, responsible
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Speaker 7: for the worst atrocity against the Jewish people in a
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Speaker 7: single day since the Holocaust, responsible for the deaths of
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Speaker 7: twelve hundred people, responsible for kidnapping two hundred and fifty more,
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Speaker 7: and frankly responsible for the thousands of Palestinians who've also
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Speaker 7: died since the seventh October. Because he provoked exactly the
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Speaker 7: response that Israel would have to enact with that attack.
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Speaker 7: Why would any decent person, let alone any Australian, think
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Speaker 7: that that is someone worthy of.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, well exactly.
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Speaker 2: But the point here, James, is that there's no police action.
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Speaker 2: Nobody's been charged. Hamas is a listed terrorist organization. It's
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Speaker 2: against the lord to support that terrorist organization.
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Speaker 1: Now, when you're lauding its leader, the man who.
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Speaker 2: Has committed all these atrocities you've just referred to, isn't.
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Speaker 1: That supporting a terrorist organization?
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Speaker 2: Shouldn't that be attracting the attention of our law enforcement authorities.
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Speaker 2: Instead we seem to just people have been standing back
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Speaker 2: and watching.
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Speaker 1: You're exactly right, Chris.
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Speaker 7: It is the failure to enact meaningful consequences for repeated
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Speaker 7: instances of behavior like this over the last year that
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Speaker 7: has led extremisty in our country to become emboldened and
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Speaker 7: to now openly defy the law. Since the seventh of
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Speaker 7: October last year, despite all the horrific scenes we've seen
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Speaker 7: in our country, not one person has been convicted of
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Speaker 7: supporting a terrorist organization, Not one person has been convicted
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Speaker 7: of incitement to violence, Not one person has been convicted
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Speaker 7: for playing the symbols of a banded terrorist organization. And
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Speaker 7: what is the message these people have taken out of
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Speaker 7: that that there is no consequences for their behavior, that
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Speaker 7: there is nothing to fear. And so not only do
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Speaker 7: we have an extremism crisis, Frankly, I think we have
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Speaker 7: a law enforcement crisis. The law hasn't been enforced, the
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Speaker 7: deterrent is not there, and that is why it's getting worse.
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Speaker 1: Look, I'm just confounded by this.
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Speaker 2: I've been talking about this for more than a year now,
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Speaker 2: as have you, and as have many others. We continue
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Speaker 2: to see sort of excuses and sort of merely mouthed
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Speaker 2: words from the various government officials, from the federal government
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Speaker 2: and state authorities.
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Speaker 1: The police still haven't acted.
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Speaker 2: What is the point of having terrorist organizations outlawed in
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Speaker 2: this country if people can still go out publicly support them,
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Speaker 2: lord them and encourage people others to support those groups
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Speaker 2: effectively and their.
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Speaker 7: Aims exactly right, Chris, and my view is that the
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Speaker 7: key missing ingredient over the last year in Australia has
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Speaker 7: been political leadership, but also moral clarity and courage. And
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Speaker 7: because we haven't seen from the Prime Minister down a
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Speaker 7: very clear message sense that this behavior is not only unacceptable,
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Speaker 7: it's unlawful, and that the federal government expects the law
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Speaker 7: to be enforced. The law hasn't been enforced. There's only
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Speaker 7: two options here, Chris. Either you enforce the law, or
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Speaker 7: if you can't enforce the law, you reform the law
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Speaker 7: so it can be passed. And yet that government and
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Speaker 7: the Prime Minister and the Labor Party have sat on
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Speaker 7: the hands that both failed to convey their expectations to
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Speaker 7: police to do something about this, and they've failed to
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Speaker 7: amend the law to make it easier for police to
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Speaker 7: do something about this. And the result of that weakness
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Speaker 7: and that impotence from the Prime Minister has been we
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Speaker 7: have extremists in our community who think there is nothing
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Speaker 7: to fear from their abhorrent behavior. We see a social
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Speaker 7: cohesion crisis, and anti semitism crisis, and an extremism crisis,
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Speaker 7: and it is getting worse. And my fear, Chris, is
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Speaker 7: that something terrible will happen, something shocking will happen in
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Speaker 7: our country that we all don't want to see happen
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Speaker 7: because this behavior has been toler Well.
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Speaker 1: You've gone on in an answer to really get my
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Speaker 1: next point.
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Speaker 2: You're absolutely right about those two responses that we could
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Speaker 2: see from a government.
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Speaker 1: We've seen neither of them.
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Speaker 2: Therefore, social cohesion is reduced in this country. We do
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Speaker 2: see more division, more hatred, and that can only fester more.
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Speaker 1: I mean, there is a reckoning here.
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Speaker 2: The reason we oppose this sort of extremism and these
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Speaker 2: groups is because we don't want to see this in
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Speaker 2: our country. Yet it is growing now those tensions are
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Speaker 2: getting more and more strained, and I fear for where
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Speaker 2: this goes. I mean, at some stage, even though they've
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Speaker 2: done nothing for over a year, the government must act
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Speaker 2: or we will see horrible, horrible consequences, even worse than
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Speaker 2: the hatred we've seen preached on our streets.
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Speaker 7: And we've already had a preview of what that could
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Speaker 7: look like, Chris. We've had one teenager charged with a
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Speaker 7: terrorism offense in relation to the alleged stabbing of the
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Speaker 7: bishop in Western Sydney. We had half a dozen other
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Speaker 7: teenagers charged with the act of preparing a terrorist offense.
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Speaker 7: Thank god, neither of those became worse incidents. None of
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Speaker 7: those were able to follow through and causing the death
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Speaker 7: of someone or a serious terrorist attack. But we know
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Speaker 7: from the ASIO Director General that it is more likely
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Speaker 7: than not that in the next twelve months there will
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Speaker 7: be a terrorist attack in this level in this country
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Speaker 7: because he's raised the terrorism threat level from possible to probable,
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Speaker 7: and that's what that means. And you would think in
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Speaker 7: light of that information, in light of the scenes that
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Speaker 7: we've seen that the number one laser like focus of
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Speaker 7: the federal government would be preventing that from happening. We're
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Speaker 7: doing everything to stop that from happening. And yet that
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Speaker 7: is not what we've seen. We've seen impotence, we've seen weakness,
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Speaker 7: we've seen equivocation, we've seen cowardice.
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Speaker 2: It is such a worry I can see the federal
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Speaker 2: government and others are hoping that when the current war
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Speaker 2: in the Middle East is resolved, then perhaps all this will.
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Speaker 1: Die down there.
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Speaker 2: That's the mistake and approach, if you ask me, we
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Speaker 2: need to combat to this sort of extremism in our
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Speaker 2: community all the time.
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Speaker 1: We obviously haven't done that.
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Speaker 2: Well enough in years gone by, which brings me to
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Speaker 2: my final point, and that is the organization of his
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Speaker 2: book to rear. It's outlawed in many Muslim countries. It's
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Speaker 2: outlawd in the UK too.
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Speaker 1: Now.
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Speaker 2: It's been a focus for many, many years. The Coalition
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Speaker 2: could have outlawd it when it was in government. But
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Speaker 2: is the time now ripe for this organization to be
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Speaker 2: banned in this country.
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Speaker 7: We must take a fresh look at this Chris in
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Speaker 7: light of their behavior in the last twelve months and
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Speaker 7: in light of the decision of our friends in the
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Speaker 7: United Kingdom to list them as a terrorist organization, things
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Speaker 7: have changed with this organization. It has become more emboldened,
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Speaker 7: it has become more prominent, it become more active, it
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Speaker 7: appears to be recruiting and it is a key organizer
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Speaker 7: behind many of the pro Palestinian rallies, events and conferences
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Speaker 7: that we've seen in our country over the last year,
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Speaker 7: including that despicable celebration on the seventh of October at
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Speaker 7: lakember Mosque that never should have gone ahead. We have
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Speaker 7: caught on the government repeatedly to seek advice to see
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Speaker 7: whether it meets the legal threshold to be prescribed as
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Speaker 7: a terrorist organization in Australia. Advice comes back that it's not. Well,
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Speaker 7: then we can consider the next steps to deal with
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Speaker 7: this extremist organization. But that is the first step and
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Speaker 7: there's no evidence that the government has done so.
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Speaker 1: James Patterson, thanks so much for joining us.
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Speaker 2: Thanks Chris, Yeah, wouldn't you feel more secure if James
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Speaker 2: Patterson was Home Affairs Minister rather than Tony Burke. Now,
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Speaker 2: when it comes to relations with the Muslim world as
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Speaker 2: well as Australia's place in our region, our strategic and
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Speaker 2: economic security, well, there's no country more important than our
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Speaker 2: northern neighbor, Indonesia. In Jakarta yesterday, Indonesia held the inauguration
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Speaker 2: of its new president, Braboo Subianto, and for some unfathomable reason,
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Speaker 2: our Prime Minister did not attend. Australia was represented by
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Speaker 2: the Deputy Prime Minister, Richard Marles. Indonesia is our biggest
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Speaker 2: close neighbor, strategically located across our north, of course, and
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Speaker 2: because of our differences, it's not an easy relationship, but
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Speaker 2: it has almost limitless upside when it comes to economic engagement,
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Speaker 2: security and regional cooperation. Indonesia happens to be the world's
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Speaker 2: largest Muslim nation and a democracy to boot.
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Speaker 1: We need to do all.
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Speaker 2: We can to encourage it along its moderate and democratic
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Speaker 2: path to prosperity. And Anthony Alberzi was missing in action.
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Speaker 2: Instead of visiting Jakarta, the PM was campaigning in Perth.
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Speaker 2: And in case anyone wants to suggest the royal visit
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Speaker 2: was a problem, Albanese could easily have welcomed the royal
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Speaker 2: visitors on Friday night flown to Jakarta on Saturday and
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Speaker 2: been back in Canbra this morning. As indeed, Richard Miles
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Speaker 2: was to welcome King Charles to Canberra. This was a
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Speaker 2: wasted opportunity, not just for Alberanesi but for Australia. He
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Speaker 2: showed poor judgment focusing on the wrong priorities, especially given
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Speaker 2: that on Sunday night, while the ceremonies were wrapping up
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Speaker 2: in Jakarta, our Prime minister was on silly prime time
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Speaker 2: television on the ABC.
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Speaker 1: The first guess tonight is.
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Speaker 7: A DJ who also spends his time running the country.
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Speaker 1: In both cases he sometimes gets.
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Speaker 5: Harsh feedback from the speaker.
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Speaker 1: Please welcome Anthony alban Is.
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Speaker 8: One of the downsides of my job is that you
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Speaker 8: can do things and then they're taken completely out of courts.
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Speaker 1: A risky enough competition me being here at all. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: pretty cringeworthy, wasn't it. Now.
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Speaker 2: Obviously this appearance was pre recorded, but the optics.
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Speaker 1: And the timing that ended up going to we're just appalling.
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Speaker 1: From Indonesia's perspective.
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Speaker 2: Thus, see an Australian Prime minister preoccupied with music and
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Speaker 2: comedy and the British monarchy rather than deeply engaged in
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Speaker 2: East Asia and invested in the future of our important
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Speaker 2: neighbor of Indonesia. Now, as I mentioned, we do have
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Speaker 2: a special visitor to the country at the moment, two
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Speaker 2: of them. In fact, he doesn't barrack for Australia in
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Speaker 2: the Ashes, he doesn't get to vote in our elections,
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Speaker 2: but he does hold the reserve powers in our constitution
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Speaker 2: and he is our head of state. Yes, the King
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Speaker 2: of England and the King of Australia, King Charles the
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Speaker 2: Third and Queen Camilla are here. It's Charles's first trip
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Speaker 2: to Australia as king. Of course he's been here many
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Speaker 2: times and covering the visit for Sky Today has been
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Speaker 2: Julia Bradley.
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Speaker 1: Julia, good to catch up with you again. What are
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Speaker 1: the royals up to as we speak.
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Speaker 5: Well, Chris.
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Speaker 9: At the moment, their majesties are at the National Botanic
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Speaker 9: Gardens here in Canberra, which has the largest collection of
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Speaker 9: Australian flora anywhere in the world. The pair will be
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Speaker 9: touring what's known as the Banksea Gardens, but also Rainforest Gully,
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Speaker 9: which has a selection of flora from all different Australian states.
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Speaker 9: And while they're here, they'll also be planting a tree
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Speaker 9: meeting with school children and also Environment Minister Tanya Plibasec.
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Speaker 9: Now this event this afternoon really is in line with
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Speaker 9: the Majesty's His Majesty's priorities. We've seen him speak a
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Speaker 9: lot today about the environment, conservation and climate change, particularly
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Speaker 9: in that address that he gave that official reception at
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Speaker 9: Parliament House. It's been a massive day for the royals.
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Speaker 9: This is their last event for the day. They've already
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Speaker 9: been at that reception. They visited the CSIRO to learn
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Speaker 9: more about the impact of bushfires, also the Australian War
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Speaker 9: Memorial this morning when we saw that very funny clip
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Speaker 9: of King Charles being sneezed on by Annal Packett.
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Speaker 5: So a very busy day for both of them.
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Speaker 9: This event right now capping off their day, remains to
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Speaker 9: be seen though whether they head to the king O
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Speaker 9: for a beer, a popular watering hole from federal politician.
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Speaker 1: Should go for.
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Speaker 2: You'll have to watch the King when he's in there too,
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Speaker 2: to see whether he talks to any of our plants.
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Speaker 2: He's been primed to talking to plants before, and you met.
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Speaker 2: He said some nutty things on climate change today. We'll
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Speaker 2: look at those later in the program. But the big
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Speaker 2: news out of the day was the idiotic performance by
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Speaker 2: the renegade senator Lydia Thorpe at the official function of
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Speaker 2: Parliament House.
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Speaker 1: Let's have a look at that.
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Speaker 4: Kind of side against our people. Get up our landa
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Speaker 4: give us my style from us, our bones, our scar,
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Speaker 4: our baby people.
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Speaker 10: We want the treading in this country.
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Speaker 2: Just disgraceful stuff from Lydia Thorpe. That's going to make
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Speaker 2: huge news right around the world. She's a senator, she's
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Speaker 2: a sworn allegiance to the crowd and she behaves like that.
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Speaker 2: Surely that's put us our note on at least the
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Speaker 2: public appearance of this visit, Julia, because I think you
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Speaker 2: and I both know that that's going to get a run,
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Speaker 2: especially in the UK, but probably all around the world.
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Speaker 9: It's already getting a massive run. Chris, We've been looking
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Speaker 9: at the news. That's the news overseas as well as Australia,
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Speaker 9: what's been reported over the last few hours, and that
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Speaker 9: certainly has been the big headline out of today that
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Speaker 9: second day of official engagements. If the intention was to
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Speaker 9: bring awareness to indigenous issues and the need for a treaty,
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Speaker 9: she certainly managed to get that in the headlines today.
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Speaker 9: There's been a lot of differing views on whether that
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Speaker 9: was the right way to go about things. We've heard
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Speaker 9: from former Prime Minister Tony Abbott who said that it
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Speaker 9: was unfortunate political exhibitionism. We've also heard from a Vietnam
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Speaker 9: veteran of Victoria Cross recipient by the name of Keith Paine,
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Speaker 9: and he said that it was an uncalled for display.
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Speaker 9: But interestingly, weighing in Dick Smith, the businessman, he says
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Speaker 9: that this shows that Australian democracy is alive than well
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Speaker 9: and that it's a good thing that she can say
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Speaker 9: that without being thrown in jail.
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Speaker 5: So that was two cents.
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Speaker 9: I have to wait to see how all this washes up.
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Speaker 2: Thanks Julia, thanks so much great reporting during the day.
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Speaker 2: We'll leave you to a royal watch there at the
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Speaker 2: Botanic Gardens. I reckon Australia perhaps should bring in transportation
21:17
Speaker 2: like the British head That's how they started this country.
21:20
Speaker 2: We should bring in transportation. We could send Lydia Thorpe
21:23
Speaker 2: to England. They could put her a jail. Put her
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Speaker 2: in jail over there. What a disgraceful performance. Let me
21:28
Speaker 2: go to Liberal MP Keith Wallahan, who joins us live
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Speaker 2: from Melbourne.
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Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us, Keith.
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Speaker 2: I mean, this is not a representation of vibrant democracy.
21:36
Speaker 2: She's not got elected on this platform. See in fact,
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Speaker 2: she's been sworn into Parliament swearing allegiance to the Crown.
21:43
Speaker 2: So whatever she thinks about the current system, it's what
21:46
Speaker 2: pays her wages. And she's just being impolite if nothing
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Speaker 2: else today, isn't she Well.
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Speaker 1: That's right.
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Speaker 11: I think hypocrisy doesn't mean anything to Lydia Thorpe. I
21:56
Speaker 11: think the moment she are as a vp'd for this,
21:58
Speaker 11: I think the Parliament knew there would be some sort
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Speaker 11: of undergraduate stunt. At least she had the good sense
22:04
Speaker 11: to wait until the King had finished speaking before she
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Speaker 11: unleashed her tirade.
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Speaker 1: But it's embarrassing.
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Speaker 11: It's a predictable play by her. It happens all the time.
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Speaker 11: We know what she's like and sort of roll our eyes.
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Speaker 11: But there's an important point to make. Wherever you are
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Speaker 11: on the political spectrum, as far left as you want
22:22
Speaker 11: to be, as far right as you want to be,
22:24
Speaker 11: you can be polite. People can be polite.
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Speaker 2: Exactly exactly, And it's a pretty sad state of Affairs
22:30
Speaker 2: where we have security there to keep out any sort
22:32
Speaker 2: of protesters or people who've going to create a fuss,
22:35
Speaker 2: but it's actually a senator that does the damage. I
22:38
Speaker 2: want to get your thoughts very quickly on what the
22:40
Speaker 2: Treasurer has told us. He reckons bad days are behind us.
22:43
Speaker 2: It's all going to be rosy in the future.
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Speaker 12: Here's Jim Charmes Well, I think when it comes to
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Speaker 12: inflation specifically, the worst is behind us. If you think
22:53
Speaker 12: about the fight against inflation, the worst is behind us.
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Speaker 12: The peak in inflation is now in the rearview mirror.
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Speaker 11: We hope he's right, the worst is behind us. Keith Well,
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Speaker 11: I'll translate that for you. The Treasurer is telling Australians
23:08
Speaker 11: I've never had it so good. Let's pretend he's not
23:10
Speaker 11: running an economy. He's running a pizza shop and every
23:13
Speaker 11: few months you get a pizza. But the pizza's getting smaller,
23:16
Speaker 11: the prices are going up, but he tells you you've
23:18
Speaker 11: never had so much because he's cutting the slices into
23:21
Speaker 11: smaller and smaller pieces. That's why GDP per capita matters.
23:24
Speaker 11: And we've had six quarters of negative GDP per capita
23:28
Speaker 11: and that matters more than just an artificial number that
23:30
Speaker 11: economists talk about. It's directly correlated with life expectancy, with
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Speaker 11: education and with happiness. So Australians haven't had a dispad
23:39
Speaker 11: in a long time. They know it and they see
23:41
Speaker 11: through the Treasurer's spin.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, your spot on the per capita recession continues. Now
23:45
Speaker 2: there's another story I really want to get your response on.
23:48
Speaker 2: It's a story that the nine newspapers in Channel nine
23:51
Speaker 2: have been running strongly and I want to get your
23:53
Speaker 2: views as a veteran because it relates to the death
23:56
Speaker 2: of four Army airmen in a Taipan shop crash off
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Speaker 2: Queensland last year.
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Speaker 1: An inquiry has.
24:03
Speaker 2: Heard from a former test pilot who warned that the
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Speaker 2: new Army navigation aids on their helmets were not safe.
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Speaker 1: Have a look.
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Speaker 13: I knew with certainty this accident was going to happen.
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Speaker 14: Major Ian Wilson risked his military career to warn of
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Speaker 14: the lethal threat posed by a high tech helmet used
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Speaker 14: by pilots, only to have his worst fears realized in
24:27
Speaker 14: July last year, when an Army Taipan helicopter smashed into
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Speaker 14: the sea, killing four airmen.
24:34
Speaker 15: Who was not here worthy for use, let for not
24:35
Speaker 15: ringan iroland.
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Speaker 14: This video, obtained by nine News and taken just minutes
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Speaker 14: before the military disaster, shows the poor weather.
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Speaker 1: At the time.
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Speaker 14: The ill fated Taipan had been turning in close formation
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Speaker 14: with three other choppers off Hamilton Island at low altitude,
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Speaker 14: in low light and with no visible horizon, precisely the
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Speaker 14: conditions Major Wilson warned made reliance on the top ol
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Speaker 14: helmet extremely dangerous.
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Speaker 15: It implied a very high risk of debt.
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Speaker 2: Yees, So worrying Keith, four lives lost and warnings there
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Speaker 2: apparently ignored by Defense.
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Speaker 1: What needs to happen from here.
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Speaker 11: Well, the first thing that needs to happen is that
25:15
Speaker 11: inquiry needs to be allowed to continue its work, to
25:18
Speaker 11: test the evidence, and then to give a full and
25:20
Speaker 11: frank report. Then government should read it properly and recognize
25:24
Speaker 11: that defense has this tension built within it. It has
25:27
Speaker 11: a very strict hierarchy where if you disobey a lawful
25:30
Speaker 11: order you can get thrown in jail. But when it
25:32
Speaker 11: comes to safety, if someone knows something that is important,
25:36
Speaker 11: it should be listened to and it should be actioned.
25:39
Speaker 11: So I hope that that's interrogated in this inquiry, and
25:42
Speaker 11: I hope that defense listens at the end of it.
25:44
Speaker 11: Because Chris full lives were lost, but there could have
25:46
Speaker 11: been many more. That helicopter had just dropped off sixteen
25:49
Speaker 11: commandos as well, we could have had twenty lives lost.
25:52
Speaker 11: So this should be taken very seriously.
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Speaker 1: It should.
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Speaker 2: Indeed, thanks so much for joining us, Keith, I appreciate it.
25:57
Speaker 2: Keith Wallahan, their Liberal MP, joining us from Melbourne, recording
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Speaker 2: from Channel nine on that issue, we'll keep up to
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Speaker 2: date where.
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Speaker 1: It ends up.
26:04
Speaker 2: Now, coming up after the break, Gematon Uni and Caroline Derusso.
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Speaker 1: Will join me.
26:08
Speaker 2: We'll talk about the hilarious news song mocking Olbow's beach
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Speaker 2: house purchase, and we'll get into Lydia Thorpe and.
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Speaker 1: Her disgraceful display today.
26:21
Speaker 2: Let's get into the panel now with Gematon Uni from
26:23
Speaker 2: GT Communications on us so much to talk about.
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Speaker 1: Caroline de Russo, host of the Royal Report. We'll get
26:29
Speaker 1: to the Royals. Don't you worry about that? Cary joining
26:31
Speaker 1: us from per.
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Speaker 2: First up, the revelation that Labour's campaign team, Caroline is
26:36
Speaker 2: going to go hard and negative on Peter Dutton.
26:38
Speaker 1: Will surprise, surprise. It's basically how they.
26:40
Speaker 2: Got into government was going hard and negative on Scomo.
26:44
Speaker 16: Right, yeah, it was, and look and look largely, to
26:49
Speaker 16: be fair, it worked, except that this time they're in government.
26:53
Speaker 16: And when you want to have a crack at the
26:54
Speaker 16: opposition leader because you think that he's arrogant and reckless,
26:58
Speaker 16: you should probably take a really good look in your
27:00
Speaker 16: own backyard before you start launching launching that. I mean, see,
27:04
Speaker 16: for me, arrogant would be buying a four million dollar
27:08
Speaker 16: beat shocked during a cost of living crisis, for example.
27:11
Speaker 16: Not a great idea, and they, you know, complain about
27:16
Speaker 16: You know that it's arrogant to not consider the gen
27:20
Speaker 16: cost report in the nuclear policy. But it's also arrogant
27:23
Speaker 16: to change superannuation when you say you're not, and it's
27:25
Speaker 16: arrogant to change Stage three tax cuts when you say
27:29
Speaker 16: you're not going to so exactly, I think the government
27:31
Speaker 16: has to be a little bit careful there because I
27:33
Speaker 16: think that one there might come back and bite them
27:35
Speaker 16: in the proverbial.
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Speaker 1: It could do.
27:37
Speaker 2: Now you say it's arrogant to spend four point three
27:40
Speaker 2: million dollars on a beach house during a housing crisis,
27:43
Speaker 2: I would say it shows a lot of hubris. So
27:45
Speaker 2: before I let you climb into this topic, gener, I
27:48
Speaker 2: want to show you one of our good friends at
27:51
Speaker 2: the two GB Ray Hadley's Twogbree morning program and the
27:54
Speaker 2: Robertson Brothers have done with Copa Kabana.
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Speaker 1: His name is.
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Speaker 7: He is our Piguan.
28:02
Speaker 5: He doesn't really seem to care. The Coustan living has
28:06
Speaker 5: gone pair.
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Speaker 17: He could be finished, would be over.
28:11
Speaker 5: We won't do how smuch you are?
28:13
Speaker 17: I mentioned that copa a stupid thing to do. The
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Speaker 17: legend soon most people can affordively swat.
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Speaker 5: Albert gen read the room he bought.
28:23
Speaker 17: At Cooper Copa Cabera, the hardest fock north of Canbeba.
28:31
Speaker 17: He bought a comper Copu Caba. His political constration. It's
28:38
Speaker 17: great for the coalition be a trade has lasted.
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Speaker 1: Coba, you be I do love it.
28:55
Speaker 2: Yes, arrogance, Yes, there's an element of stupidity here too.
28:58
Speaker 18: Thomas Dumber's there, Thomas Box of Hammonds. I mean, let's
29:01
Speaker 18: just bring them all out. My overriding view of the
29:06
Speaker 18: Prime Minister is that he hasn't worked out.
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Speaker 5: He's the Prime minister and you can say, sure he's
29:11
Speaker 5: allowed to buy property. Of course he is as a
29:13
Speaker 5: private citizen.
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Speaker 18: But when you take the highest honor, and it is
29:18
Speaker 18: an honor to serve you and I Chris, we pay
29:21
Speaker 18: his wages.
29:21
Speaker 5: He works for us.
29:22
Speaker 18: He has the honor of serving this country, and he
29:25
Speaker 18: hasn't worked it out. He has presided over the biggest
29:29
Speaker 18: single fall in.
29:30
Speaker 5: Growth in real wages, more jobs.
29:33
Speaker 18: That's not the point. He's got old mate Jim, who
29:36
Speaker 18: can't stop spending. We all know that that rates won't
29:38
Speaker 18: drop until spending stops. But more than that, he's overseen
29:41
Speaker 18: this fracturing of our social cohesion out of sins of
29:46
Speaker 18: omission not commission. It's like he hasn't worked out that
29:50
Speaker 18: he's the man with boss on the hat.
29:53
Speaker 5: And when you are the boss, and when you are.
29:54
Speaker 18: The leader, you don't get to do your preference. You
29:57
Speaker 18: have to put purpose over preference. And in that respect,
30:01
Speaker 18: I don't think he has adjusted well to the office
30:03
Speaker 18: of Prime minister. I think he's adjusted poorly.
30:05
Speaker 5: And I think you'll remember.
30:06
Speaker 18: When he was elected, I sat on this desk with
30:08
Speaker 18: you and said, if he leads.
30:10
Speaker 5: Well, we will all pusper. He has not led well
30:13
Speaker 5: in this country.
30:14
Speaker 18: I asked someone the other days, this is what it
30:16
Speaker 18: was like under Whitlam and they said, yeah, not far
30:18
Speaker 18: off at Well.
30:19
Speaker 2: He said, Willman was doing a few things as well.
30:20
Speaker 2: With your agree or disagree that we have the agenda.
30:23
Speaker 2: This guy's just wandering along making.
30:24
Speaker 18: Coming to parties, he's going to the tennis, he's going
30:26
Speaker 18: to help music festivals, he's buying property, and the rest
30:29
Speaker 18: of us are going, oh my god, that's my power.
30:31
Speaker 2: Bill Well, as I said at the top top of
30:34
Speaker 2: the program, where the Prime Minister should have been yesterday
30:37
Speaker 2: was in Jakarta for the inauguration of the new Indonesian president,
30:41
Speaker 2: that was crucial. Instead he was campaigning in Western Australia
30:45
Speaker 2: and he turned up on the ABC on this program.
30:48
Speaker 8: We got contacted by the promoters for Dolly Parton because
30:53
Speaker 8: Dolly Parton doesn't like flying, so she had two big buses.
30:58
Speaker 1: I'm glad huge buses. That's what's the problem. Too wide
31:08
Speaker 1: and too long.
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Speaker 2: My main, Caroline, isn't just underline the point here, wrong priorities.
31:17
Speaker 16: Well, it's just it's poor judgment, right, it's very very
31:20
Speaker 16: poor judgment.
31:21
Speaker 5: And look, people should be able to have a joke.
31:23
Speaker 19: I don't want to be a wowser and I don't
31:24
Speaker 19: want to be a Puritan, but but you make the
31:27
Speaker 19: point that inauguration is actually something that is incredibly important
31:31
Speaker 19: for the relationship between Australia and Indonesia. And I wonder
31:36
Speaker 19: what the Indonesians are thinking, Oh, we invited this bloke
31:38
Speaker 19: but he decided to go on a game show instead. That's,
31:41
Speaker 19: of course, after coming to Western Australia to say well,
31:44
Speaker 19: you can't live export sheet, but you can.
31:46
Speaker 5: Live export crayfish.
31:49
Speaker 16: And I just don't think that that's going to go
31:51
Speaker 16: down particularly well and particularly not well with our farming community,
31:55
Speaker 16: who you know, did all the work to upscale that
31:58
Speaker 16: industry absolute best practice in our live export industry. And
32:03
Speaker 16: he said, no, you can't do that bit, but you
32:05
Speaker 16: can live export this bit over here because we think
32:07
Speaker 16: it's okay.
32:08
Speaker 2: He's got no idea. Now, I like a joke too.
32:10
Speaker 2: You've got to be able to crack a joke, got.
32:11
Speaker 1: Too what at my age? You know, if the best
32:13
Speaker 1: I can do.
32:14
Speaker 2: Is a big Bloom Dolly Parton joke, you know, just
32:16
Speaker 2: put a bullet through me, will you.
32:17
Speaker 1: I mean that they're the jokes we were doing sort
32:19
Speaker 1: of forty years ago.
32:21
Speaker 2: Pull in the meantime, let's have a look talking about
32:24
Speaker 2: poor judgment. Let's have a look at what Lydia Thorpe
32:27
Speaker 2: did at Parliament House today.
32:33
Speaker 4: Kind of side against our people, get up our land back,
32:37
Speaker 4: give us my new style from us, our bones, our scar,
32:41
Speaker 4: our baby, our people.
32:47
Speaker 16: We want to.
32:47
Speaker 10: Treating in this country.
33:01
Speaker 2: Well, I've got news for Lydia. He is your king.
33:03
Speaker 2: He's my king. Doesn't matter what you think. He's your
33:05
Speaker 2: king now, Gemma, I've got to remind you again not
33:08
Speaker 2: to swear.
33:10
Speaker 18: I promise your producer I wouldn't let rip. I'm struggling,
33:15
Speaker 18: and plus I've got my mum's swear jar to consider.
33:17
Speaker 1: I think you can say, f knuckle.
33:21
Speaker 5: She has an embarrassment to this country.
33:24
Speaker 18: And I think getting to the pointy end of this,
33:27
Speaker 18: we all have seen the worst of the Australian Greens
33:30
Speaker 18: over the last twelve months.
33:31
Speaker 5: Since October seven, we've seen the worst of them.
33:33
Speaker 18: We knew that they were putrid rants at a boil
33:35
Speaker 18: on the backside of his country. Now we see this
33:39
Speaker 18: person carrying on like this and it's time to stop playing.
33:44
Speaker 18: I think the Australian electorate needs to stop playing. And
33:47
Speaker 18: I think there's a problem because you've got, for example,
33:49
Speaker 18: two hundred and fifty thousand Australians getting their news on
33:51
Speaker 18: the Middle East from someone like Clementine Ford's Instagram.
33:54
Speaker 5: Right, that's the terrifying thing.
33:56
Speaker 18: But the government of this country needs to have some
33:58
Speaker 18: principle and say we will not preference that party in
34:01
Speaker 18: the same way that the Coalition didn't preference one nation
34:04
Speaker 18: back in the day.
34:05
Speaker 5: But this I fear that the federal.
34:07
Speaker 18: Government doesn't have principle electorally. I just and I'm not
34:10
Speaker 18: saying that to be like deliberately political in the sense
34:13
Speaker 18: of because I'm a conservative voter, but I think on
34:16
Speaker 18: evidence you can say and judge there is no principle.
34:19
Speaker 18: There is no point of reference where they're going to go.
34:21
Speaker 18: We're going to take a principle. That was an embarrassment.
34:24
Speaker 5: But not only that, I resent paying her wages.
34:27
Speaker 2: Well she's not agreen anymore, of course, but she was
34:29
Speaker 2: thought she's holding a green spot now absolutely. Just before
34:35
Speaker 2: I come to your care, I just want to show
34:36
Speaker 2: you might remind everybody of the fact that she actually
34:38
Speaker 2: swore allegiance to the crown back in twenty twenty two.
34:41
Speaker 1: She made a song and dance about it, but she
34:43
Speaker 1: did it.
34:47
Speaker 20: So Olidia thought, she sol and sincerely prayer that I
34:53
Speaker 20: would be paid and I their true allegiance to the.
34:57
Speaker 5: Colonizing her majesty.
34:59
Speaker 21: Queen Elizabeth Senator thought yeah, yeah, Caroline, just to shock
35:04
Speaker 21: um and you have the courage of your convictions, leave
35:07
Speaker 21: the Senate resigned from the Senate if you hate.
35:09
Speaker 1: This system totally.
35:13
Speaker 16: And it's a really easy thing to do, like really easy.
35:16
Speaker 5: No one is holding a gun to her head to
35:19
Speaker 5: be there.
35:20
Speaker 1: But we all know.
35:21
Speaker 16: You know that she's not going to earn more anywhere else.
35:24
Speaker 16: I mean, that's something the anomaly for unfortunately some of
35:28
Speaker 16: the political classes. They go to a place like Parliament
35:31
Speaker 16: to get a pay rise, which really should probably disqualify
35:35
Speaker 16: them from going there in the first place. Absolutely disgraceful,
35:39
Speaker 16: Absolutely disgraceful.
35:40
Speaker 5: But at the same time, Chris, I like that this
35:44
Speaker 5: is out in the open.
35:45
Speaker 16: I like that people can see this, and I want
35:48
Speaker 16: people to consider this light Gemma was saying when they
35:51
Speaker 16: go to vote, because I think at the last election,
35:55
Speaker 16: Labor won all but seven seats with Green's preferences, so they.
36:00
Speaker 5: Are stuck to these people.
36:02
Speaker 16: They need these people under their electoral relevance, but they
36:06
Speaker 16: are an absolute pox. They are disgraceful and frankly, I
36:12
Speaker 16: look at something like that, Chris, and you know what
36:14
Speaker 16: I actually think.
36:15
Speaker 5: I think, Wow, you're such a loser.
36:19
Speaker 2: Absolutely the whole country things that makes she still collect
36:22
Speaker 2: you on those tw hundred and fifty three hundred thousand
36:24
Speaker 2: dollars a.
36:25
Speaker 1: Year from all of us losers paying for her.
36:27
Speaker 18: She's the kidding class and you just want to get
36:29
Speaker 18: rid of because they're just the constant one going.
36:31
Speaker 2: Look at me, a little me, look a man, I'm
36:32
Speaker 2: specials a shocker. Now we've chatted so much, we've got
36:36
Speaker 2: no time for the US politics. Believe me, it's extraordinary
36:39
Speaker 2: as ever, and we'll bring some of that to you tomorrow.
36:42
Speaker 1: But that's all the time we've got for Caroline and Jemma.
36:44
Speaker 1: Thanks so much for joining us again. We'll get to
36:46
Speaker 1: a break.
36:47
Speaker 2: On the other side of the break, we're going to
36:48
Speaker 2: talk about a whole bunch of things and patch up
36:51
Speaker 2: with Sophie ell'sworth too, to talk about all the drama
36:54
Speaker 2: at Channel nine.
37:01
Speaker 1: Now.
37:01
Speaker 2: I told you last Thursday about the stunning nuclear energy
37:04
Speaker 2: shift unfolding in the United States, where a bunch of
37:07
Speaker 2: big tech companies such as Microsoft, Google, Oracle, and Amazon
37:12
Speaker 2: turning to nuclear power data to fuel the data centers
37:16
Speaker 2: in their artificial intelligence projects.
37:18
Speaker 22: He's more on that Google is turning to nuclear energy
37:23
Speaker 22: to keep up with the demands of artificial intelligence. The
37:27
Speaker 22: company announced the deal Monday with energy startup Caro's Power
37:32
Speaker 22: to purchase electricity from seven small modular nuclear reactors, which
37:36
Speaker 22: still need to be built. The first of those reactors
37:39
Speaker 22: would come online in twenty thirty. They'll be used to
37:42
Speaker 22: power Google's data centers, which process huge amounts of digital information,
37:47
Speaker 22: but they require a lot of energy to do so.
37:49
Speaker 22: A recent study found that by twenty twenty six, data
37:52
Speaker 22: centers across the globe will consume more than one thousand
37:56
Speaker 22: carawatt hours of electricity, which means what, well, that's about
38:00
Speaker 22: the same amount as the entire nation of Japan.
38:05
Speaker 1: That's an amazing fact to it, isn't it. Now.
38:08
Speaker 2: I'm joined by tech Guide editor Stephen Fannik live from Sydney.
38:11
Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us, Steven.
38:12
Speaker 2: Now, those of us who follow the energy debate closely
38:15
Speaker 2: know that if you want to get to zero and
38:17
Speaker 2: you want reliable power, you're going to have to look
38:19
Speaker 2: at nuclear energy seriously, But I suppose we didn't guess
38:23
Speaker 2: that it would be the big tech companies driving that shift.
38:27
Speaker 2: Why are the tech companies so interested now in nuclear energy?
38:31
Speaker 13: Yeah, Hi, Chris, Well, it's a confluence of events here.
38:34
Speaker 13: You got to remember that they're really pushing now that
38:37
Speaker 13: AI is now sort of the top line part of
38:39
Speaker 13: their technology, and that requires a lot of power. Ten
38:43
Speaker 13: times AI search that requires ten times the power of
38:49
Speaker 13: a regular Google search. So I think these companies made
38:52
Speaker 13: a business decision here because they receive the writing on
38:56
Speaker 13: the wall that sustainable energy isn't going to get them.
38:59
Speaker 1: To their tart.
39:00
Speaker 13: You going to remember they had their own sustainability targets
39:03
Speaker 13: as well, and they're realizing that nuclear being a mission
39:05
Speaker 13: free is going to help them still achieve those targets
39:10
Speaker 13: without blowing the back of still keeping their AI servers powered.
39:14
Speaker 2: Yes, it's this massive demand for energy that we just
39:17
Speaker 2: heard a snippet of in that report, where you know,
39:19
Speaker 2: Japan the third or fourth biggest economy in the world,
39:22
Speaker 2: isn't it, and you need as much energy as all
39:26
Speaker 2: of Japan needs to drive AI data centers around the world.
39:30
Speaker 1: That this must be coming up them fast. They've been
39:32
Speaker 1: needing a lot of this energy.
39:33
Speaker 13: Like next week, absolutely right, So obviously they see the
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Speaker 13: demand here, so sustainable energy using to get them over
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Speaker 13: the line in the short term. So they're seeing the
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Speaker 13: nuclear energy is there. That's their business issue, no politics
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Speaker 13: involved at all. These are businesses we're talking about here,
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Speaker 13: So they're pretty smart people to work at these companies
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Speaker 13: and they're deciding that nuclear is the solution moving forward.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, that's what's important about it. These are the
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Speaker 2: smartest and biggest companies who making these decisions.
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Speaker 1: Let's have a listen to a little bit more of
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Speaker 1: what Google.
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Speaker 3: I've got to say, for one of the largest corporate
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Speaker 3: purchasers of wind and solar on the planet, we signed
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Speaker 3: over one hundred deals. But we know that to get
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Speaker 3: to carbon free twenty four hours a day, we're going
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Speaker 3: to need more technologies than just wind and solar. The
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Speaker 3: wind doesn't blow all the time, the sun doesn't shine
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Speaker 3: all the time, and what's great about technologies like advanced
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Speaker 3: nuclear is that they provide a more always on resource.
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Speaker 3: So it's a very big part of our path to
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Speaker 3: twenty four to seven carbon free energy.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Steven, So that reasoning is going to play into
40:34
Speaker 2: the Australian debate on energy here. Sure, but tell us
40:37
Speaker 2: from a tech point of view, are we going to
40:39
Speaker 2: see data centers and the like in Australia that are.
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Speaker 1: Also high energy users?
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Speaker 2: Do we need a lot of additional electricity in this
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Speaker 2: country for the tech sector.
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Speaker 13: Absolutely, Yeah, there's a high likelihood of that.
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Speaker 23: Yeah.
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Speaker 13: Google has their Gemini, Microsoft has copil of plus PC's
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Speaker 13: and they'll need some servers located right here in Australia.
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Speaker 13: They'll only big data is to meet the demand of
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Speaker 13: those AI AI queries. As I mentioned, an AI query
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Speaker 13: needs none of the processing power but also the actual
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Speaker 13: power to process.
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Speaker 1: Ten times as much as a regular search.
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Speaker 13: So you can just imagine as AI is now becoming
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Speaker 13: part of every new product that Google and Microsoft and
41:17
Speaker 13: all these other companies are producing, then the demand is
41:20
Speaker 13: going to increase. Now, Apple is its own case.
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Speaker 1: They're here as well.
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Speaker 13: They're pretty well credentialed in being in being completely sustainable,
41:29
Speaker 13: So whether they go down the nuclear path is something.
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Speaker 1: To be seen. I doubt it.
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Speaker 13: But other companies like Google, Microsoft and all these other
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Speaker 13: corporations who haven't quite got the sustainability chops as Apple,
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Speaker 13: they need to be looking at nuclear as soon as possible.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, fascinating. We'll keep an eye on that.
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Speaker 2: Apple is a big one to watch, as you say,
41:47
Speaker 2: but reality might buy them on the bum too. We
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Speaker 2: will see s Thanks for joining us, Steven, appreciate Stephen
41:51
Speaker 2: Fennick there from a tech Guide all over it as usual.
41:56
Speaker 2: Now I want to go to this disgusting site on
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Speaker 2: Sydney streets yesterday that I talked about at the top
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Speaker 2: of the program with HUMAS leader Jaga simbwas celebrated as
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Speaker 2: a freedom fighter and again government and law enforcement agencies
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Speaker 2: have led us down, allowing this sort of hatred to
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Speaker 2: be preached without consequences. He is Shadow Home Affairs Minister
42:14
Speaker 2: James Patterson speaking with me earlier.
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Speaker 7: Not only do we have an extremism crisis, frankly, I
42:19
Speaker 7: think we have a law enforcement crisis. The law hasn't
42:22
Speaker 7: been enforced, the deterrent is not there, and that is
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Speaker 7: why it's getting worse.
42:26
Speaker 2: For more, I'm joined by Alex Ritchen from the Executive
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Speaker 2: Council of Australian Jury, joining us live from Sydney. Alex,
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Speaker 2: you must have been a horrified at what you saw
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Speaker 2: in Hyde Park in Sydney yesterday. Seeing it on media
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Speaker 2: media broadcast subsequently, of course, But what about the lack
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Speaker 2: of government action, as outlined there by James Patterson.
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Speaker 15: Well, we've seen it for a year now, Chris. I mean,
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Speaker 15: the same preacher that stood on the streets in West
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Speaker 15: Sydney on October seventh, in the immediate aftermath of those atrocities,
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Speaker 15: praising them as heroic and speaking about his pride and
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Speaker 15: joy on that day is at it again. A year
43:02
Speaker 15: has passed. We've seen scores of condemnations, calls for law reform,
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Speaker 15: private legal action brought by my community, and five Executive
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Speaker 15: Council of Strange jury, and yet so little has changed.
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Speaker 15: And again no one was surprised because a month ago
43:16
Speaker 15: it was Hassan Nosrala whose portrait was being held off
43:20
Speaker 15: in Sydney streets into whom allegiance was being pledged publicly,
43:24
Speaker 15: and now it's Sinoa. And as James Patterson rightly points out,
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Speaker 15: until there are consequences, this is going to continue, and
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Speaker 15: these sorts of words, this reveling and terrorism is going
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Speaker 15: to inspire people. You're seeing the indoctrination of children, and
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Speaker 15: we're going to create a terrible situation for ourselves, for
43:38
Speaker 15: generations to come.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you must have been lobbying politicians and talking to police.
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Speaker 1: What are they telling you? I mean, why not charge
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Speaker 1: these people?
43:46
Speaker 2: Because we are talking about overtly supporting and encouraging and
43:51
Speaker 2: lauding the leaders of prescribed that is illegal terrorist organizations.
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Speaker 15: Well we've seen it for a year. We've called upon
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Speaker 15: the government and the police to take action against hate
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Speaker 15: preachers who work clearly in citing violence against our community
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Speaker 15: and against our fellow Australians, and no action was taken.
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Speaker 15: And we've said the exact same thing with this with
44:12
Speaker 15: the public praise and support for tert organizations. Test the law.
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Speaker 1: The law is there.
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Speaker 15: These groups have been prescribed because they are threat time
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Speaker 15: national security and until arrests are made and that as
44:24
Speaker 15: have brought before the courts, we will not know whether
44:26
Speaker 15: these laws are effectual. So we need to see police
44:28
Speaker 15: action and we need to see political will.
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Speaker 2: I couldn't agree more, Alex, thanks so much for joining us, Alex,
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Speaker 2: Sir rich and there again from the Australian the Jewish
44:37
Speaker 2: Affairs Council. Look, what is the point of having these
44:41
Speaker 2: laws If they don't impose them, you may as well
44:44
Speaker 2: make comas and hezbal legal entities in this country. If
44:47
Speaker 2: you won't prosecute people for applauding them, for applauding their work,
44:53
Speaker 2: for lauding their leaders and encouraging people in their aims,
44:56
Speaker 2: it's just shocking. We'll keep on this, but at the
44:58
Speaker 2: moment we have a federal government and really state police
45:01
Speaker 2: forces as well doing nothing on this. Let's get on
45:04
Speaker 2: the media matters now with the media writer for The Australian,
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Speaker 2: Sophie Ollsworth, joins us every Monday live from Melbourne. Good
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Speaker 2: to speak with you, Sophie. Yep, I just first up,
45:14
Speaker 2: want to go to something. I to hit you out
45:16
Speaker 2: of left field because I told her and we wouldn't
45:17
Speaker 2: have time for this today. I want to show people
45:20
Speaker 2: now though a little bit of what Donald Trump has
45:22
Speaker 2: been up to in the last twenty four hours. He
45:24
Speaker 2: got behind the counter at Machers as part of his
45:27
Speaker 2: campaign and started serving fries a loot.
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Speaker 23: I love McDonald's.
45:32
Speaker 1: I love jobs.
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Speaker 23: I like to see good jobs, and I think it's
45:36
Speaker 23: inappropriate when somebody puts down all over the place that
45:40
Speaker 23: she worked at McDonald It was a big part of
45:42
Speaker 23: her resume that she worked at McDonald's. How tough a job.
45:45
Speaker 23: It was. She specifically worked at the French Fray where
45:49
Speaker 23: her make the French frays, and she talked about their
45:51
Speaker 23: heat it was so tough.
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Speaker 1: She never worked at McDonald's.
45:56
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a big media play, isn't it, Sophie.
45:59
Speaker 1: You reckon I'll go down well with the punters, a
46:01
Speaker 1: bit of a hit on. Kamala Harris there too.
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Speaker 24: Absolutely it will, I believe Chris. It makes Donald Trump
46:09
Speaker 24: look like a man of the people. It makes him
46:11
Speaker 24: look relatable, and that's a clip that will go viral
46:15
Speaker 24: all around the world.
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Speaker 16: So it's pretty smart by him just putting out these
46:19
Speaker 16: little things on social media too.
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Speaker 24: As we all know, they go berserk, they get picked up,
46:24
Speaker 24: and he's trying to show that he is relatable and
46:27
Speaker 24: does understand the precious people are under So I think it.
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Speaker 1: Can do him a lot of good for sure, making
46:32
Speaker 1: me hungry too while I'm looking at those pictures. Now,
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Speaker 1: let's get to the big story.
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Speaker 2: An extraordinary story, a deadly serious story in the media
46:39
Speaker 2: that you've been all over lately, and that is, of course,
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Speaker 2: these that report into sexual harassment and other claims at nine.
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Speaker 1: Here's some of nine's coverage of the story.
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Speaker 6: One hundred and twenty two former and current staff came
46:54
Speaker 6: forward with complaints eighty five but women, and the view
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Speaker 6: of one of them, I've endured that of microaggressions over time.
47:02
Speaker 6: It is death by a thousand cuts. There was a
47:05
Speaker 6: point when I wanted to kill myself. Thirty percent of
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Speaker 6: people reported sexual harassment, fifty seven percent bullying. She is
47:14
Speaker 6: a toxic bully. I would cry in my car when
47:17
Speaker 6: I arrived at work, and sixty two percent experienced abuse
47:21
Speaker 6: of power. Her modus operandi was to create a culture of.
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Speaker 2: Fear, extraordinary stuff, Sophie and deeply worrying, and now we're
47:30
Speaker 2: led to believe allegations of rape being investigated.
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Speaker 14: That's exactly right, Chris.
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Speaker 24: I had this story with my colleague James Madden in
47:40
Speaker 24: The Australian today. Incredibly alarming. What is going on inside
47:46
Speaker 24: Channel nine at the moment are an awful lot of
47:48
Speaker 24: meetings and awful lot of crisis management and a network
47:52
Speaker 24: that is reeling from a damning report that found very
47:56
Speaker 24: sobering findings of a culture of bullying, actual harassment and
48:01
Speaker 24: allegations of a lot of misconduct inside the nine organization.
48:05
Speaker 24: After the handing down of that review last Thursday, Chris,
48:09
Speaker 24: and this has got a long way to run because
48:11
Speaker 24: the boss, Matt Stanton today announced there's numerous external investigations
48:16
Speaker 24: now underway into matters relating to nine staff and they've
48:20
Speaker 24: got independent investigators looking at this.
48:23
Speaker 5: So this is far from over for a network.
48:27
Speaker 24: In damage control, and that has been in damage control
48:31
Speaker 24: way back since the start of the year when we
48:33
Speaker 24: first broke that story about the abrupt exit of news
48:38
Speaker 24: boss Darren Wick.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Look, it's going to be enormously disruptive.
48:42
Speaker 2: It must be already internally for how they operate, and
48:44
Speaker 2: they're having to discuss this and report it fairly on air.
48:47
Speaker 1: We've just seen an example of that.
48:49
Speaker 2: But they've lost their chairman and Peter Costello, they've lost
48:51
Speaker 2: Darren Wick, as you say, they've also lost their head
48:54
Speaker 2: of communications and they've lost their CEO.
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Speaker 1: There'll be more changed to come.
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Speaker 24: Resumably, absolutely, Chris. I do believe more heads will roll.
49:07
Speaker 24: Many of the managers have been showing the door or
49:09
Speaker 24: are heading their way out, and you've just rattled off
49:12
Speaker 24: some of the key players in this that have left
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Speaker 24: or are leaving, and I certainly think that we more
49:19
Speaker 24: to come.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll keep an eye out for that, Sophie. Thanks
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Speaker 2: for joining us. Sophiel's worth keep your eye on the
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Speaker 2: Australian and in particular the media section on Mondays to
49:28
Speaker 2: find out exactly what happens with all of that. Just
49:30
Speaker 2: a bit of time to squeeze in some of your
49:32
Speaker 2: feedback to last week's interview where we showed you what
49:37
Speaker 2: Kamala Harris had to say. Rebecca says, it's called narcissistic rage.
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Speaker 2: Harris showed her authentic personality. Another few viewers says, now.
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Speaker 1: We know what it dumps. The fire on a train
49:48
Speaker 1: wreck looks like I don't know it was that bad.
49:50
Speaker 1: It was pretty bad though.
49:51
Speaker 2: Dennis says, Harris proved how important it is that we
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Speaker 2: elect Trump advance this November fifth, and Michael says he
49:58
Speaker 2: lives in the USA and sc I use Australia is
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Speaker 2: the best channel.
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Speaker 1: To report this stuff. He's thankful for that. We're going
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Speaker 1: a bit of that from the US. Good to hear.
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Speaker 1: Thanks for joining me. That's all the time I got
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Speaker 1: for you today.
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Speaker 2: We're going to have a commercial break now, but then
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Speaker 2: back in this very chair after that will be Peter Kredlin.
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Speaker 1: Don't go away.