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Episode 6.30: Fresh Signs of Hope · Return to Glory - Nebraska

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  Speaker 1: Return to Glory podcast. Another bye week took last midweek
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  Speaker 1: episode off. We're back here on Monday evening, November eleventh,
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  Speaker 1: just after the big announcement of Dana Holderson being officially
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  Speaker 1: named the offensive coordinator for the rest of the year.
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  Speaker 1: So we've been since last game. We knew there were
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  Speaker 1: new people coming in. We knew Dana was coming in,
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  Speaker 1: and on top of a defensive guy that has helped
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  Speaker 1: has been helping Rule all year. Wasn't really new, but
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  Speaker 1: Dana Holderson comes in to fix all the offensive problems.
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  Speaker 1: Nobody really knew what the capacity was. There's obviously chatter
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  Speaker 1: and talk about the future twenty twenty five, and Rule
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  Speaker 1: just came out and said it. He's calling plays the
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  Speaker 1: rest of the year.
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  Speaker 2: It's only a reflection of this year, he says, this
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  Speaker 2: is not an indictment for the future.
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  Speaker 1: I think he's taking it on a very game by game,
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  Speaker 1: day to day basis, which I think is smart. I
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  Speaker 1: think Rule, as he's always been very political, has a
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  Speaker 1: good political sense, a very good I tea of what
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  Speaker 1: people are going to make a big deal about, and
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  Speaker 1: he's basically just saying, well, this is where we're at,
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  Speaker 1: this is what We're exciting. This is what we're doing
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  Speaker 1: for the rest of this year, and who knows where
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  Speaker 1: it could end up in the future. But that's where
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  Speaker 1: we're at here with three games to go, three games
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  Speaker 1: that we probably won't be favored in. But as he spoke,
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  Speaker 1: we need to find a way to score seven to
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  Speaker 1: ten more points a game, which isn't unheard of to do.
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  Speaker 1: But clearly the way the direction the offense is going
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  Speaker 1: was not good. And went out and asked for help. Dak,
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  Speaker 1: you've been calling this for a few weeks.
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  Speaker 3: Yep, Finally my hat goes off the rule. I don't
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  Speaker 3: know what changed in a week. Finally, good God, I
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  Speaker 3: don't know. Maybe he noticed that Saderfield was just a
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  Speaker 3: dead man walking and like I've been saying, just get
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  Speaker 3: rid of him. There's no point keep him there. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: he's still on the team. I don't know why. I'm
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  Speaker 3: guessing he has to be probably one to say I
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  Speaker 3: guess and I don't know, but I'm finally been calling.
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  Speaker 3: Now Now the main thing is, which I hope happens,
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  Speaker 3: is are they going to run the air raid right
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  Speaker 3: out of the right out of the gun, just straight
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  Speaker 3: from a straight from SAP. I don't know what Saturfield
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  Speaker 3: ran nothing to an air raid, which the help happens,
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  Speaker 3: because I don't think Ulgerson runs anything else with that
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  Speaker 3: there raid either. He never had.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, we're gonna get into that because I have a
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  Speaker 1: lot of comments on what you just said. Here's before
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  Speaker 1: we like dive into our true opinions and thoughts. How
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  Speaker 1: rad our offense in the scale of like one to ten.
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  Speaker 1: I'll even I'm not even broaden the scale a little more.
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  Speaker 1: Let's go one to one hundred. Where would you like
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  Speaker 1: our offense in total? Like, where was our offense at before?
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  Speaker 1: I'll say immediately after last week.
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  Speaker 2: We're not grading it.
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  Speaker 4: This is on a true zero to one hundred scale,
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  Speaker 4: like zero out.
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  Speaker 1: Wise, No, just our offense in general, our offense zero
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  Speaker 1: being the absolute worst offense ever to one hundred being
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  Speaker 1: the best offense that college were balls ever seen.
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  Speaker 3: Forty one, I can say forty.
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  Speaker 1: God, you guys are a lot higher than I would
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  Speaker 1: put it.
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  Speaker 2: I'm looking at this as.
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  Speaker 1: You know, you guys, I mean I would have it
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  Speaker 1: down to.
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  Speaker 3: Like a twenty.
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  Speaker 1: Our offense was not good, guys at all. Production wise,
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  Speaker 1: it was bad. I mean, look at look at the
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  Speaker 1: look at where we ranked in the country and everything,
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  Speaker 1: which includes some bad teams.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I guess I rank it that way.
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  Speaker 1: Because I will say this. You guys both had a
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  Speaker 1: forty out of ten, and I think the decision to
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  Speaker 1: get to display sadderfield was a completely wrong one.
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  Speaker 2: So interesting. Wow.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, if you guys think forty out of I
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  Speaker 1: mean that's close to average. It's like an average Division
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  Speaker 1: one offense.
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  Speaker 3: You guys think, I I think there's some bad offense
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  Speaker 3: out there.
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  Speaker 2: There are some bad offenses out there.
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  Speaker 1: Are you wouldn't say our offense has been bad?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think just in the Big ten alone you
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  Speaker 3: have you're better than Michigan Iowa.
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  Speaker 1: Are we Iowa?
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  Speaker 3: Yes? I would be Yeah, I'll take your OFFENSEI over Iowa.
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  Speaker 1: Just bye week, just like make you guys.
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  Speaker 3: Rutgers.
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  Speaker 1: Happened in the UCLA game, what happened in the Indiana game,
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  Speaker 1: Ohio State, there were some good things. What happened in
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  Speaker 1: the Purdue game, the Rutgers game. Our offense was not
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  Speaker 1: good in any of those games. Dak. I'm mainly talking
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  Speaker 1: to you because you've been the one that's saying it's
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  Speaker 1: so bad. And then you just said forty out of
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  Speaker 1: one hundred.
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  Speaker 3: So now I'm like, maybe, man, I was thinking talent wise,
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  Speaker 3: now if you I'm not.
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  Speaker 1: I just said, rank our offense zero to one hundred.
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  Speaker 1: You said forty.
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  Speaker 3: I'm dropping that down.
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  Speaker 1: I was. I was thinking more of do if you
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  Speaker 1: believe it?
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  Speaker 3: No, I was thinking more of what they should, like.
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  Speaker 1: I should Where are we at? Where is our offense
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  Speaker 1: at zero two, one hundred? Where's our offense at?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's lowering forty twenty twenty twenty five. I think
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  Speaker 3: you're so out of one hundred FBS team, you'd probably
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  Speaker 3: be seventy fifth. I'd say around there.
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  Speaker 2: We're ninety six one hundred twenty two.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, so even lower than what I said about a quarter.
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  Speaker 3: I just think play calling has a lot to do
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  Speaker 3: with it. Like maybe I'll be wrong, maybe they come
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  Speaker 3: out and throw six picks, who knows, but I just
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  Speaker 3: a lot of play calling.
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  Speaker 1: Okay. So now that we got Dak settled, Austin, are
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  Speaker 1: you changing like I'm I'm at like twenty I might,
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna go fifteen to twenty. As far as our offense,
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  Speaker 1: like how it was performing, how effective it was, everything,
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  Speaker 1: play calling talent wise, everything to do with our offense.
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna put us at yeah, whatever, fifteen to twenty.
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  Speaker 2: You could probably talk me down to thirty five.
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  Speaker 4: But I don't know if I feel like I need
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  Speaker 4: to go because I think there's talent there.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not, but yeah, I don't. It's not what you
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  Speaker 1: think should or could happen. It's what we've been showing.
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  Speaker 1: What is our offense produced.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not going lower at thirty five?
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  Speaker 3: Well, God, like I said, you got to think how
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  Speaker 3: many bad offenses like like like you were just saying a.
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  Speaker 4: Lot of points on the board. So I think that
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  Speaker 4: has changed a lot of things. So that's more of
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  Speaker 4: a reflection of special teams than it is our offense.
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  Speaker 3: You're probably maddle the road offense in the Big ten
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  Speaker 3: easy yeah, with a big yeah. But the Big ten
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  Speaker 3: is one of the worst.
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  Speaker 1: So you put whatever that was then initial comment. Now
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  Speaker 1: after hiring Holgerson or naming Holgerson as our offensive coordinator,
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  Speaker 1: now where are we at.
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  Speaker 2: The same. I really don't think it's going to impact
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  Speaker 2: us that much. I really don't, Dak.
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  Speaker 3: I would I think a lot better because I didn't.
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  Speaker 3: I think you could put anybody with the brain in there,
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  Speaker 3: maybe you have better offense. But it'll be interesting to see.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, you can't run the ball already, and he's
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  Speaker 3: not gonna run the ball, so I don't think that's
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  Speaker 3: gonna change. But you're actually gonna air it out now.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: Now that real is hurt.
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  Speaker 1: You have an opinion, you have a thought. What are
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  Speaker 1: you doing with your number?
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  Speaker 3: I'm thinking, let's spin from twenty five to thirty for now. OK,
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  Speaker 3: so not my work that great.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not moving it at all either. I think the
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  Speaker 1: general and dak I think speaking for a lot of
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  Speaker 1: Oscar fans is just generally speaking, this is what they
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  Speaker 1: think is going to happen, this is what his background is.
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  Speaker 1: I think this takes away from and give people hope again.
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  Speaker 1: The hope's the key word. You hope that whatever he
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  Speaker 1: comes in and does works. I'm not moving my number
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  Speaker 1: until I see it now. I will say it was
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  Speaker 1: a good move simply because the fact of where I
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  Speaker 1: had him at fifteen to twenty, it can't go down
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  Speaker 1: much further. Like the floor, We're almost there now. You
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  Speaker 1: guys had him quite a bit higher. So in theory,
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  Speaker 1: if if things don't whatever this decision was is it good?
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  Speaker 1: Then I guess it could go down a lot. In
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  Speaker 1: my doomsday scenario, Pulwerkson comes in and yeah, Dak, I agree.
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  Speaker 1: He does come in and does try to throw it
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  Speaker 1: fifty five times a game, and that just does not
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  Speaker 1: fit what we have at all. That could happen. I
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  Speaker 1: don't think that it will, but that could make things worse.
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  Speaker 1: We could start turning it over a lot again and
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  Speaker 1: really not move the ball at all and not take
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  Speaker 1: any time off the clock. That could happen. But I
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  Speaker 1: think the move can only help us because we were
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  Speaker 1: pretty much already I thought close to rock bottom. I
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  Speaker 1: mean I was under the opinion two three four weeks ago.
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  Speaker 1: I even said, what's gonna change Sadderfield? Like, what, this
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  Speaker 1: isn't gonna do anything now if you name somebody else
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  Speaker 1: as an offensive coordinator. That was also me not thinking
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  Speaker 1: that we would hire somebody different. It was promoting within.
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  Speaker 3: Why that's the thing I'm excuesse.
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  Speaker 2: But we literally had two OC's on staff.
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  Speaker 4: We had a co offensive coordinator and a regular offensive coordinator,
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  Speaker 4: and then we still bring in Holgerson as an offensive
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  Speaker 4: consultant and then within a week he's the offensive coordinator, Like,
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  Speaker 4: how bad does it have to be?
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  Speaker 1: It's interesting, Like the whole Holderson thing, it gives hope,
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  Speaker 1: right because of what he's shown to do, Glenn Thomas
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  Speaker 1: has not had the resume that Holgerson has neither a
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  Speaker 1: sadder field obviously, but that was what Glenn Thomas was
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  Speaker 1: kind of supposed to do. It's weird how that never
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  Speaker 1: got brought up amongst conversation, because can everybody agree that
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  Speaker 1: our offense sucked last year? Yeah, I mean, let's go
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  Speaker 1: back to zero to one hundred. Where was our offense at.
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  Speaker 2: I when not go that low thirty three.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going back on my fifteen to twenty rank. I
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  Speaker 1: don't think. I don't think we're any worse or better now.
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  Speaker 1: Early in the year, I thought maybe we were up
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  Speaker 1: closer to you know, to fifty. But we've once again
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  Speaker 1: shown that our offense is not producing and we fixed
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  Speaker 1: the thing that we thought was the problem was the quarterback.
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  Speaker 1: And our run game has gotten you could say worse.
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  Speaker 1: Our past game has not changed because it wasn't good
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  Speaker 1: to begin with. We got maybe a better passing quarterback.
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  Speaker 1: These receivers we brought in maybe aren't as good as
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  Speaker 1: everybody's hype made it out to becker shocker. So we're
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  Speaker 1: down here again at fifteen to twenty in my mind,
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  Speaker 1: wherever your guys numbers are at, and we bring in Holderson,
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  Speaker 1: who I guess has proven to say to produce offenses.
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  Speaker 1: My cautions were one, Austin, what you say, like Glenn Thomas,
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  Speaker 1: that was what he was supposed to do. No one,
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  Speaker 1: no one is talking like what is he even doing.
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  Speaker 1: He's coaching the quarterbacks, right like that's all we really
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  Speaker 1: know and we're paying him money. Second hesitation, Now, he
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  Speaker 1: did just get let go from Houston last year, so
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  Speaker 1: maybe you know he just wanted to take some time off.
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  Speaker 1: There's a reason why he didn't have a job. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know what that reason is, if people didn't want him.
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  Speaker 1: But he went four and eight last year Houston got
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  Speaker 1: fired from his position. He did have a good turnaround
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  Speaker 1: at Houston, though he went four to eight in his
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  Speaker 1: first year. They got twelve and two in twenty twenty one,
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  Speaker 1: and then they fell back to four and eight and
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  Speaker 1: he got fired. Prior to that, he was at West Virginia,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, he was a head coach there for seven
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  Speaker 1: and a half years. Had a couple of really good
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  Speaker 1: seasons there. I say really good, really good in Nebraska
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  Speaker 1: terms eight and five, ten and three, seven, six, eight
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  Speaker 1: and four, and then prior to that he was an
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  Speaker 1: assistant at Houston. And then, as Dak has mentioned with
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  Speaker 1: the air raid, he comes from the Mike Leach Tree
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  Speaker 1: at Texas Tech. That's where he basically started his coaching
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  Speaker 1: career there and built his way up, so he has
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  Speaker 1: that track record. I think that's what the hope is.
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  Speaker 1: When you hired Glenn to there was also hope that, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: our office is going to get better from last year,
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  Speaker 1: but it maybe did but didn't. I would say what
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  Speaker 1: better it got was because of Dylan, But now Dylan,
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  Speaker 1: Now Dylan's kind of been stagnant. So again I'm using
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  Speaker 1: this word hope because I think that makes our potential
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  Speaker 1: higher if we didn't make any changes at all. And
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  Speaker 1: I think rule saw this from now until the end
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  Speaker 1: of the year. Our offense, wherever your number is at,
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna go pick them to twenty. It wasn't. It
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  Speaker 1: could have got better, but it wasn't getting much higher
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  Speaker 1: than thirty. I mean, it was it was what it was.
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  Speaker 1: Holgerson brings a fresh mind that the downside can't go
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  Speaker 1: much further down, but it raises the upside of what
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  Speaker 1: it could be, and it may not do any of that.
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  Speaker 1: Just the news of getting him as the coach does
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  Speaker 1: not change my opinion of our offense right now. It
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  Speaker 1: gives a little more hope. But that's that's about it.
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  Speaker 1: That's where I stand on the whole news. It's not
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  Speaker 1: have nothing to do with I think we will be better.
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  Speaker 1: I think this is going to solve things, but I
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  Speaker 1: just won't say that until we actually see some production
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  Speaker 1: on the field.
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  Speaker 4: I still just think it's weird the timing. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: is it safe to assume that he was operating as
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  Speaker 4: the OC all of last week too when you up
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  Speaker 4: as a consultant or is it truly like hey, over
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  Speaker 4: the last couple of days.
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  Speaker 1: So if you if you listen to Rule today, he
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  Speaker 1: made it sound like he was brought and as a consultant,
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  Speaker 1: he was not offered the offensive court right, so he
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  Speaker 1: wanted to see if it was a good fit first.
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  Speaker 1: But I think the intention was there at some point
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  Speaker 1: in the future. I don't know if anybody thought of
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  Speaker 1: was this soon. It does also sound like sadderfield New
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  Speaker 1: where he was at, whether that be now or in
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  Speaker 1: the future, probably not gonna be OC anymore. And he
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  Speaker 1: kind of said, coach, let me know where he wants
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  Speaker 1: me to go, Like, I'll do it. I've always said
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  Speaker 1: the sadder Field is more of a of a soldier
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  Speaker 1: than he has been his own person. I've always thought
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  Speaker 1: that with him under rule, I don't think it's they.
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  Speaker 1: They have a bigger friendship I think than people realize.
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  Speaker 1: In Sodderfield is more of a yes man than people think.
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  Speaker 1: With with our offense.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, how does that work? I guess team dynamics.
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  Speaker 4: What do you guys think the impact is? You still
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  Speaker 4: have sat on the staff not calling, Like is it
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  Speaker 4: truly just that Dan is just calling the plays but
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  Speaker 4: sat still in charge of the Like I don't understand
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  Speaker 4: there are now three offensive coordinators on this staff and
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  Speaker 4: I do not understand. I cannot wrap my brain around
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  Speaker 4: how the power structure is and like where the shake's
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  Speaker 4: Like at the end of the year, you're just firing
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  Speaker 4: these people. Are you demoting set? Are you demoting.
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  Speaker 1: Back?
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  Speaker 3: What do you think you had to ask sata Field
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  Speaker 3: if you want to stay or not? Like I mean,
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  Speaker 3: I mean, you tell him what's gonna happen today? Do
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  Speaker 3: you want to stay on the staff or not? I mean,
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  Speaker 3: I guess him and Rule got everybody's or something. I
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  Speaker 3: don't know why he's still keeping on staff, but I
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  Speaker 3: think that they asked him staying. I think he'll just
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  Speaker 3: probably I didn't even stay out of it then that
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  Speaker 3: Dana just take over. Basically, I think.
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  Speaker 2: What million dollar pay cut stay as a tight ends coach.
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  Speaker 3: Might now on the team or the whole coaching staff
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  Speaker 3: for next year. I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: Just just listen. I don't know if you guys did
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  Speaker 1: or not. Go listen to Rule press conference. I think
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  Speaker 1: it's a very important one from a there's a lot
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  Speaker 1: of there's it's loaded like with a lot of stuff
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  Speaker 1: that for a bye week there's not much talk about
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  Speaker 1: USC yet, but for the future of the program, there's
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  Speaker 1: a lot of stuff to like grasp onto and how
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  Speaker 1: we talked about the strutt Sure, the offense was interesting.
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  Speaker 1: He talked about how sad and like Garrett McGuire said, Hey,
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  Speaker 1: like coach, let me know what you need. So here's
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  Speaker 1: how I'm picturing it. Like picture. Holderson has had his
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  Speaker 1: own offensive, his own like head coach, like he's the
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  Speaker 1: head of the head of the castle. And all these
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  Speaker 1: guys are just like they have one position. They said,
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  Speaker 1: Stat's coaching the tight ends, Glenn Thomas coaching the quarterbacks.
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  Speaker 1: E J. Barthel is still coaching the running backs, Garrett
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  Speaker 1: McGuire still receivers, and Donnie still the online coach, and
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  Speaker 1: they all are in charge of position. They're all feeding
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  Speaker 1: information up through Holgerson, and then Holgerson ultimately is the
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  Speaker 1: one deciding on how the offense functions. I don't think
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  Speaker 1: the players are going to be as effected, I say,
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  Speaker 1: I don't think. I hope they're not affected by it
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  Speaker 1: all because they got it. They can't be. They can't
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  Speaker 1: be idiots. Like our offense was not producing, so they
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  Speaker 1: got to know, Okay, that wasn't working.
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  Speaker 4: And there's no real change. You know, Sat was already
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  Speaker 4: coaching the tight end and then he was also the OC,
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  Speaker 4: So I mean, really, you just took away one responsibility
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  Speaker 4: that no, you're not gonna have that much interaction with
• 18:08
  Speaker 4: him as far as like quarterbacks and receivers and stuff.
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: But and I completely the whole people. Some people are
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: complaining about SATs staying on staff and the money thing.
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: Why are we still paying this guy? I agree, we're
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: not gonna be paying him an offensive coordinator salary probably
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: in the future. But guys, money thing is now when
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: we talk about the stadium and Troy Dannen and his
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: conversation with the Husker online guy, it's a little bit
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: different topic. But like money thing is. I know, people say, oh,
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: we don't we're paying all the past coaches all this
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: extra money. Oh Unfortunately, it's a society and cultural ball
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: landscape that we live in. Like coaches are gonna get
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: paid that. It's just the reality of it, and it's
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: it might not be quote unquote fair, and you think
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: that they're making too much money. I totally get it,
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: but that's the reality. That's the market and to keep
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: people around and paying them eight hundred and seventy five
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: thousand dollars to be a tight ends coach like versus
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: hiring someone new for five hundred and fifty thousand, I
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: get it. Three hundred thousand dollars a lot of money,
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: But when it comes to a budget standpoint, I mean,
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: I don't know in a continuity standpoint. So I think again,
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: we got a fresh face of fresh mind that's going
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: to take a different approach to what we're doing now.
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: That being said, Dack, what I don't think what you
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: said earlier is feasible. We're not going to go to
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: the air raid. It's just not going to happen. It's
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: not We can't can't do that in one week or
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: two weeks and say all right, the air raid systems implemented,
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: fire or away, like it will not happen.
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: Well, I was just looking on there to see if
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: he ever, if he ever didn't run the air raid,
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: and he did. I didn't know this, but he was
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: the OC when Ary Morgan was at Minnesota so awful offense,
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: and then he was OC. I don't know. They never
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: said for sure what he was. I'm guessing to know
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: c on these teams. And then he was the OC
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: at Michigan State when Peyton Thorne was a quarterback, and
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: I saw the ranked like ninety eighth then offense, So
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: he can't he has not ran the air raid before.
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: It hasn't worked at all. But I don't know. I don't.
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: I hope Nebraska does come out just run the air raid, yeah,
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: fit and just chuck it all over the field.
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: You better, you better check your I don't know what
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: source you're looking at. Like he was never at Minnesota.
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: I don't know who you're looking at. Who are you
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: hold on? You're not You're not on Dana Holgerson twenty eighteen.
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: He's at West Virginia in twenty eighteen.
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: Are there two Dana Holgersons?
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: Okay, well, yeah, I don't know what. I don't know
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: what you Yeah, I know what this.
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: But here's okay, So you're here hitting out of point
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: I want to get to because I think it's important
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: when people think.
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: About, okay they were doing they were doing to like
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: comparing these offenses to his offenses. So he was never
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: at any of those teams. So just like I didn't
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: say that.
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: Quality journalism here books.
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: Hey, you're you're getting on the hot seat, just like
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: your Oklahoma team. You're on the hot seat for bringing
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: that up.
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: The more you read.
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: So what Holgerson's style or what his coaching tree stems
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: from is Mike Leach. I think the casual fan definitely
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: categorizes coaches, any coach, any sport into this coach likes
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: to run or this, Their style is this, And I
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: do think that given the ideal situation, everybody knows what
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: they know and what they grew up on, what they
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: were taught, what they believe in. Now, you can obviously
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: expand your library of systems and schemes as a coordinator,
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: as a coach of any sport, but ultimately, what you
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: believe in and what you know is what you grew
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: up on. So that's going to be in there now.
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: I think there's this big scale here, and I'm putting
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: on two spectrums. We kind of mentioned it last week.
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: There's a scale of like, this is the offense I'm
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: gonna run given whatever players I have. This is what
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: I believe in, this is what I know, This is
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: all I'm going to do. I don't care who I'm given,
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: I don't care what the team has, and I'm gonna
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: do that. Then there's the flip side of saying I'm
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: not gonna do anything. I'm gonna wait to see what
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: my team has and I'm going to do everything that
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: fits the team the best, and I don't care what
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: my beliefs are my thoughts. If a team has all
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: ninety nine speed receivers and fits the air raid, then
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna come into that. So I think that there's
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: a scale of a lot of scales. Today's zero to
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: one hundred. Every time this situation that's happening now, it
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: falls somewhere in the middle. Now, sometimes I think it
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: can lean more towards this is what I believe, and
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: this is what I'm gonna do. I don't care the players.
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: I think we saw that with Scott Frost early on.
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: Scott Frost came in and said I'm gonna do what
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: I want and he tried, but didn't have the players
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: to do that. Early on in his year, I don't
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: think he was one hundred percent doing everything he wanted
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: to do. They were still somewhat trying to fit what
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: we had. There's also a situation where you come in
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: and Holderson. I think he's going to do this a
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: little more. Okay, here's what we actually have. So what
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: we're hoping is him identifying the players that are on
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: this roster during this two weeks, he's gonna be able
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: to put something together from a schematic standpoint from all
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: of his past coaching in tree history successities had and
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: produce something better than what it is now. I think
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: that's very possible. I think hiring somebody with the experience
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: that he has is going to help. Now that experience
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: the caveat is more of that air raid coaching tree.
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: But he knows he's not. He just doesn't just know that.
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: He knows other things. So anyways, that's my thought on
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: like when he comes in and what he's gonna try
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: to do, it falls somewhere in the middle. We don't
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: know where that's gonna be. You think, you hope that
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: he uses what we have, but again some people would
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: ask what do we have?
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: But you honestly hope that he just has present at motions.
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: I mean, just doing that, you're gonna feel better about everything.
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: He's been in football wait too long to only know
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: the area. Like he definitely knows what my offense is
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: the run, like like you said, that's a specialty. So
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: he's he's gonna come in and find an offense that
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: work best for the players that Nebraska has, and it'll
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: be like I do think he'll be a lot more
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: pass happy, that's for sure.
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: But so you're right, well, you just said he's going
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: to fit what we have, but he's gonna merge his
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: concepts and ideas of his system into it. So again,
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: there's like this middle ground where nobody really knows what
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: it's gonna look like, but we just hope it produces
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: something better. The hard part is there's three games to
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: do it, and it's hard to know how much, how
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: how far do you go with implementing new stuff versus
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: your current stuff. The only thing that you can hope
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: is that Holgerson knows what that is and at this
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: point in the season and you're kind of throwing your
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: chips at him and saying, here you go, Like.
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: I mean, it's it's help kind of high I don't
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: want to say high risk for Holgerson, but if you've
• 25:29
  Speaker 4: come into the offense somehow it looks a little bit
• 25:31
  Speaker 4: worse or not better and we don't make a Bowl game.
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: Maybe I don't I for him, I think there's almost
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I think there's already little risk for
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: all parties involved. I'll be honest, because, like I said,
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: we were at a fifteen before. So yeah, there's a
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: risk that we do get beat our last three games
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: and look like dog shit still on offense, Like no
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: one's gonna say, ah shit, well, shouldn't have brought Holgerson in. No,
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: it's already been like really bad. So it's not like
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: it's gonna ruin everything. That's why when people have asked me,
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: what are your thoughts, I'm like, it can't hurt, Like,
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: what's it gonna hurt? Because if it does go south,
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: but it can't go south much further Offensively, I guess
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: we could start turning it over again and lose our
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: last games by forty each. I guess that could happen.
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: But are we favored to win any of these? Maybe
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: Wisconsin home. I don't know.
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: Well, it's basically like a three game interview he's on
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: right now, and I don't think he's like he doesn't
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: if it doesn't work out, only he's gonna be too
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: beat up about it. He's already set for life with that.
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: See, I don't. I don't think it's a three game interview.
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: I don't think that way.
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: Do you think if Sure come back next year?
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: No, I don't. I don't think he has anything to
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: prove here, as I'm deserved to be the head coach,
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: I or the offensive coordinator. I don't think he has
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: anything to prove. I think he's coming in with the
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: fresh set of eyes and he's gonna do his best,
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: and it's gonna be up to him, ultimately up to
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: him whether he comes back or not. I truly do
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think that if it's people are
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: going to go, oh my god, Holgerson was terrible. I
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: don't think it's gonna happen. The only reason why it
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: could happen is that people truly, truly, truly believe right
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: now and have their expectations. Might say, people the decision
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: makers have their expectations of our offense going from a
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: fifteen to a sixty. I don't. I hope it does,
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: but I don't expect that. I don't think Rule expects that.
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: I just think we needed a fresh face and a
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: fresh look because the current situation was not working at all.
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean, do you just hope it works?
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: You hate to change.
• 27:42
  Speaker 4: I obviously we last three in a row, but we
• 27:44
  Speaker 4: did win five the other way.
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: We want to die the other way. But I mean,
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: I guess you can look at how we won those games.
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, like you said, it can't hurt.
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: My other like comment on the Holgerson thing, I was
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: just watching his interview and some random lady commented on it,
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: like I have a lot of respect for Rule all
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: great leaders know when to ask for help. Completely agree
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: like that. That's a very that's a very strong statement
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: that I think Rule understands. This also comes back to
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: my point last week after the UCLA game in the
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: signs that you know, people didn't want to believe that. Unfortunately, guys,
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: maybe this coaching staff just isn't competent, isn't knowledgeable of
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: some of the not gonna call him complex things. Real
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: mentioned the complexity, but like how to implement a scheme,
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: and like Sadurfield has not been good anywhere, and everybody
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: kept saying that, and I was like, oh, I don't know,
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: maybe well maybe he maybe he doesn't just know and
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: guess what you surround him. Why is Dak on her song?
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: I don't know what happened, but the first one just.
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: Incredible.
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: I don't know how that happened. It just dropped. And
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: now I'm on the here twice. I don't know.
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: I don't think that I lost my complete train of
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: thought now that I'm staring at Dak's frozen face. Anyways,
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: I don't know what I was saying, but I just
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: think that didn't help.
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: The lady made the comment.
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so Rule got help. I just don't know that
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: this coaching staff was competent to begin with. And again
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: going back to it can't hurt DANEA has got a
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: lot of experience on the offensive side and it's worked
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: where it's been so Sadderfield, we really didn't know if
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: he actually knew what Like someone high school coach was
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: saying in the red zone, a simple mesh concept in
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: the red zone is very effective, Like we never run
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: that once, Like the Sadderfield not know simple adjustments to
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: make as an offensive coordinator. Garrett maguire, if that SAT's
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: right hand man, guess what, the guy's not even thirty, Like,
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: he's not going to have the experience. And I'll say
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: it the courage to go to satur Field and say, nope,
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: this is all wrong what we're doing. So I think
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: doing this basically brings in a guy that does have
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: a lot of knowledge. Now granted it recently has failed
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: a little bit, but it just brings a whole fresh
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: face and these younger, more incompetent coaches can go to
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: him and say, what do you need from me? But
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: how can we merge what we're already doing into what
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: you think big picture of an of an offense, and
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: that's what that's what Holderson's gonna do. Like he's not
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: in charge of a position, he is going to oversee
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: the entire offense. Because I'll say it, I don't know
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: that Rule knows offense very well. I don't. I don't
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: think he does. So you bring in a guy that does.
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: And it's good that Rule has a good relationship with
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: a lot of these guys. You just hope it again,
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: use that word hope that we're out in the long run.
• 31:04
  Speaker 4: Did you guys read that Reddit thread I sent you
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: when Sanafield got hired as Nebraska's OC.
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: It was pretty hilarious if you actually.
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't either. I don't know if I got it.
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: I thought I texted it to you guys. Anyways, it was.
• 31:24
  Speaker 4: It's pretty funny to read back through the comments and
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: there's a bunch of people basically from West Virginia or
• 31:29
  Speaker 4: not West Virginia, South Carolina or like in three years.
• 31:31
  Speaker 4: In two to three years, you guys are gonna regret
• 31:33
  Speaker 4: this higher. He doesn't do anything on offense that's complicated,
• 31:37
  Speaker 4: and it's just very frustrating to watch. He'll have a
• 31:39
  Speaker 4: couple of high games, but other than that you're just
• 31:42
  Speaker 4: gonna drive you want to play your hair out. It's
• 31:44
  Speaker 4: pretty funny.
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: I didn't. I'm reading it. Yeah, I know, I see
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: it now.
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: I said that when they hired him, why why did
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: they do the beginning? He wasn't good at South Carolina
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: at all, Like South Caroline got way better after he left,
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: and he didn't have good for sure either, but they
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: they decided to bring him back again.
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: Okay, so this is a perfect transition to my next
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: big thought. And shout out Cooper Weeks for bringing this
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: up too and making me think about it deeper this year,
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: especially like wasting I'm gonna call it wasting nine games
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: with Saturfield as a ROC because last year we knew
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: our offense wasn't good. But let's just even go back
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: to when we hired When we hired Rule and he
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: brought Saturnfield along, back to this Reddit post of people
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: saying you're gonna regret it this guys, I'm gonna say it.
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: This was a big, big mistake by Rule, and I
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: think his friendship and his closeness relationship with Marcus Sadderfield
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: have been a big flaw. Now you trust people in
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: the sport, you trust people and your coaching circle. Saturdfield
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: worked with Rule at Temple. You go look at Temple's offenses.
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: They weren't They were okay, but they weren't great. You
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: mentioned his history like it might looking back on it
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: and Rule might regret it too, like it was a
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: big mistake and he was just so close to Sadderfield
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: where his flaws or the things that weren't working, he
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: just hung on to it longer than he should have.
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: And that hope that it's more of a Sadderfield came in.
• 33:20
  Speaker 4: He's really good at establishing the culture of what the
• 33:23
  Speaker 4: expectation is at as an offense and that all we
• 33:27
  Speaker 4: do is need to plug in a better play caller.
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: That's the hope that you hope. Yeah, that is what
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: you hope because it does it just it just feels
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: like a man like if these guys are really that close,
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: and you know, you can go back and look at
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: Scott Frost's buddies that he had on his coaching staff too.
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: In flaws there that can be tough, Like your coaching
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: staff obviously has to have good chemistry for things to
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: work really well, but at the same time you can
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: be blinded by some of it if you trust him
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: too much. And again if rule does not know his
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: offense that well, and you say, Sad, it's yours. Good luck.
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: But Sad doesn't really know what he's doing, which is
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: showing that he probably didn't. Then that probably cost us
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: and set us back in rules tenure. And that can't
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: feel good. Now we have a new face, Now we
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: have a new look. We'll see. We messed up on
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: the quarterback year one. That was that was the reason
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: that was the scapegoat for year one. We said, ah,
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: maybe offense isn't that bad. Maybe Sadurfield doesn't know what
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: he's doing. It's got to givehim quarterback. But we got
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: a quarterback. They're back basically to where we were. We're
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: not turning it over as much, knock on wood. But
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: it still didn't work. So I just want to say
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: that it's a really good thought. It makes you wonder,
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: did we kind of waste an offense here for the
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: past couple of years.
• 34:50
  Speaker 4: At least we might have only wasted one year of
• 34:52
  Speaker 4: an offense half not even a full year of an offense.
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: A year of an offense, you.
• 34:59
  Speaker 4: Know, all things considered, we might have caught it might
• 35:02
  Speaker 4: have gotten caught early enough.
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: Last year was a culture establishing year. We didn't have
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: a good quarterback. That was kind of on them.
• 35:13
  Speaker 4: But yeah, I mean three fourths away through this year,
• 35:17
  Speaker 4: it's like, Okay, this offense isn't working.
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: Were switching it up and maybe that's all we need.
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: Maybe that's what we hope, that's what.
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: We hope already two years then the rules made two
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: terrible offense decisions have kind of killed your seasons both years.
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: You already know. The first year was Jeff Simms. He
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: that was his decision right there, bring him in.
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: We also don't know what the other options were head
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: quarterback his first year.
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but I I mean.
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: And you don't know if that rules or if that
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: sadder Field they couldn't want hand in hand.
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but then you have bringing Sackfield and that's another
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: terrible like two years and he's not proven ease, he's
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: a little ola. Yeah what has he done yet?
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: So that's the whole negative. The whole downside to it is, Yeah,
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: you can say, oh, we haven't wasted really anything. Maybe
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: we caught it early enough. Well, if we wouldn't had
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: to catch anything at the beginning, because it was all Okay,
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: then things could look very different in year two and
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: we aren't fighting for another win to get to a
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: bowl game. I mean, Dak's kind of Dak sometimes has
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: very generic takes with a lot of things, but like
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: these two big, big things he's been right on with
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: Sadderfield and with Jeff Simms, and it does. It gozes
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: all the way back to Huscar fans being blinded by
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: some of the obvious things that are right in front
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: of us that don't work. So again, nothing's ruined. There's
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: still a lot of season left. It is bye week,
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: so this is the kind of stuff we talk about
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: and changes. But yeah, we're five and four, still with
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: a chance to still win a bowl game that would
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: be huge, or make it to a ball game and
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: potentially win that would be huge for the program, be
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: huge for rule. You don't do that. It's a little
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: scary rules starting. And I like this, I really do
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: like this. He's starting to get short and a little
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: bit snippy with the media, and I like it because
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: it shows that you're not worried and caring about the
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: general public, about people that really have no impact on
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: your program. Now, maybe from a recruiting standpoint, a little
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: bit they have say and push on social media. But
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: he even told them, He's like, we're not bringing Holderson out,
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: We're not bringing other coaches out this week, Like we're
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: gonna start keeping stuff more in house. You guys are
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: really good at your job. As the way he worded it,
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: so he knows that whatever gets said is going to
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: get twisted a billion ways, as it always does. And
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: I like that, Like, I just say it as it is, Matt, Like,
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: I like the media and the fans have no obligation
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: that some people might disagree with that have no right
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: to know the details of what's going on. I think
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: media is for the most part, is just kind of ridiculous.
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: It keeps the fans informed. I guess it's why it's
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: an entertainment business, but it But when that starts happening,
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: that's when you start seeing coaches start to get because
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: all that does is starts starting new new articles and
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: different things, and media gets pissed at you and they
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: start throwing this and this next thing, you know, you're
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: on the hot seat for really nothing because the media
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: made that a thing. Like that's how.
• 38:43
  Speaker 4: This was like this last the last two weeks, the
• 38:46
  Speaker 4: world Harold Like, I don't really remember a time during
• 38:50
  Speaker 4: frost any where they're like, hey, you gotta fire, like
• 38:54
  Speaker 4: during the year. I feel like that there was a
• 38:56
  Speaker 4: little more bite this year for the old world, Harold
• 38:59
  Speaker 4: Like simple an article about how it's time to get
• 39:01
  Speaker 4: earn a sadder field, and I just feel like therecasts.
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: That what a lot of them say it the quote
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: they always say, the fans deserve more. The fans deserve more.
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: The more they put why tell me why, I mean,
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: outside of maybe donating money, why do we fans? We're fans, Like,
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: so that's why they That's why that I think they're
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: getting a little bit the media themselves are getting a
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: little bit short and snippy with a lot of things.
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: Is because they try to back the fans up because
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: that's who ultimately their audiences, which ultimately drives the clicks
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: and drives the revenue. Like that that's how things work
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: right now. And I'm okay. If a team and a
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: coach goes nope, like this is what we want to
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: do now. The downside of that is if it does
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: start failing and you're not winning, well, then you have
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: zero reason or zero explanation, no back because you've been
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: you've been short. But I said that not too long
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: ago about head coaches, like the ones I like, I
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: like the Greg Papa bitches, I like the spolsters. I
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: like I'm going basketball coaches. I like the coach K's.
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: I like the guys, even the Harbor Harbors, the one Saban,
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: the ones that are just like short and snippy and
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: like they really don't give a crap about what the
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: media post. They don't care, they don't even know what's
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: going on. I like that kind of signetti to your signetti.
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: What he said this week, someone asked him about the playoff,
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: You think I don't even know how that thing works,
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: because I mean, I don't even know how many teams
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: are in it. I don't even know, like you know
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: what where, what what goes on, because I have no idea.
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: I don't think he actually believes that, or I think
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: that's actually true. But in his mind he's like, I
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: don't give a crap, but all the other hoopla and
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: raw raw, like all I care about is X, Y
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: and Z. Like I like those kind of coaches, and
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: ruled down a little bit of that in him this week.
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: The main thing you want to do as a coach
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: and press commers does not make a story like you
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: you don't want to because that to me is like
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: for when they're asking you a question, that it is
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: for you to say something stupid and make a story.
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: Or something they can twist and guess. Yeah, the less
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: you talk, the less you talk, the less you give
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: them to make something about it.
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: Yep. Well, and and then you get ripped for being
• 41:14
  Speaker 3: an asshole in the media. But either way there it's
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: not when when these.
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: We do with Nebraska, because it's all we have other
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: places that it happens and he gets brushed off, but Nebraska,
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: I'm telling you that's a big fault of everything in
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: Nebraska is how this all plays out.
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: That's why Bo's not here.
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean you saw it with Bow, how quickly
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: that went down. He saw it with Frost, how that
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: started going down. I Mike Riley, I Mike Riley kind
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: of bowed himself out. So that being said, I want
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: to transition a little bit to another like Biewek topic here.
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: Troy Danen did come on to one of those podcasts
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: and talk about some of the stadium and I guess
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: big picture plans for the university's athletic department, and again
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: another really good interview. To go listen to it just
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: to get a picture of where he sits as a
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: head coach or as athletic director. Guys, he fully supports
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: where the staff's at in the direction they're going right now.
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: And I know you can't really say anything else to
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: the media, but like he makes it a point to
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: really call out the direction and the vision and the
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: future of football, specifically with what he thinks is going
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: on now. He is new. Remember he started the first
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: week in March Madness this year and took over for
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: Trev Alberts. He's figuring things out. But the one thing
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: that I that he said that attracted him to Nebraska
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: is that I can't remember the mentality he called it. Basically,
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: the Nebraska is very hungry, like they all they want
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: to be good. That drive like everybody in the in
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: the in the state. So you can't you can't replace that.
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: Like that is real and as long as that sits here,
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: we're going to be fine. And it allows you to
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: build what you want as an athletic director. I thought
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: that was very telling because of the opposite of that
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: word is apathy. And that word gets thrown around more,
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: especially with this next generation. We've talked about it, people
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: are now talking about it more and more with the
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: younger generation of fans. When apathy sets in, you don't
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: even really know what's setting in because apathy is truly
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: not caring. You don't even have an opinion on it
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: because you don't even know it exists because you don't care.
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: You're starting to see that more and more. I think
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: Troy Dannen knows. He's not dumb. He can see that
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: that's what could be happening. So this whole re vamp
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: of the stadium, of different things within the athletic department.
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: You know, we're getting alcohol finally at the stadium. New
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: things are what keep people around. Now. We've talked about
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: the bad things in the stadium, but I think he's
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: trying to put together this new vision for Husker athletics.
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: The football team is especially I guess.
• 44:12
  Speaker 3: Austin, I don't know.
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: You probably don't know if you've listened to it. But
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: thoughts on like the stadium or just Troy Dan in general,
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: because I think he does bring up another fresh perspective.
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: I mean, I think it's just time for the scene
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: to have updates. I mean, it's just old.
• 44:29
  Speaker 4: It's got a lot of years used out of it.
• 44:31
  Speaker 4: They've got a brand new football facility. It kind of
• 44:34
  Speaker 4: feels like a next logical step. I mean beer sales,
• 44:40
  Speaker 4: like that's been something that's been talking about for a
• 44:42
  Speaker 4: long time, and I just want to say, like most
• 44:46
  Speaker 4: major colleges now sell alcohol in their stadium, so they're
• 44:49
  Speaker 4: just kind of catching up in some aspects.
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: I think. I like Troy Danon. I really don't know.
• 44:55
  Speaker 4: He hasn't done anything to upset me, but I can't
• 44:59
  Speaker 4: I can't say have any strong opinions about him yet. Dak,
• 45:04
  Speaker 4: you're excited about yourselves. I can already tell nowhere to
• 45:07
  Speaker 4: drink out in the parking lot.
• 45:09
  Speaker 3: Uh huh. Yeah, we found out about that this weekend.
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: But I think it's way too early to tell with
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: your ad. Like you said, he came in with Trev
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: just basically dipping out without telling anybody. And the stadium
• 45:30
  Speaker 3: part of it, yeah, it needs some updates and stuff.
• 45:33
  Speaker 3: I don't I don't think it needs like a total revamp.
• 45:38
  Speaker 3: It just needs more modern, modern look. It's I think
• 45:41
  Speaker 3: it feels like an older stadium to me, like the
• 45:44
  Speaker 3: way it's built, and I don't know the bathrooms need
• 45:47
  Speaker 3: updated too. It's it's been a while I was thinking
• 45:53
  Speaker 3: about that Oldklahoma Nebraska. Okay, so you're here's my take
• 46:00
  Speaker 3: on the stadium, but I don't know the bathrooms last
• 46:02
  Speaker 3: time I was there is still the freaking Yeah, it's
• 46:06
  Speaker 3: still troughs.
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: But here's the thing, Like going to road games, I'll
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: say at Missoo's stadium is older than Nebraska, that it
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: seems older. Like I wouldn't use Nebraska Stadium as old.
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: I would say that it's not authentic in the sense
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: that there is. It's it's updated from the bells and
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: whistles standpoint at everything there. Though to me, and I
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: heard this from a former Husker player through the grape vine,
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: like the Memorial Stadium is not a one that is
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: I mean to use the word hostile anymore, like it
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: used to be a hostile environment, and I think a
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: lot of that does come with winning, But it's not
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: one that like it might be called a tough place
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: to play. Well, clearly teams have not had trouble playing
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: a Memorial stadium, but the crowd Nebraska nice, It's not
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: It's not a hostile environment, and I don't. I went
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: to Missoi this weekend, and we'll get to that here
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: in a little bit. Like that place was so much
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: and it seems sixty thousand people plus maybe ten thousand
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: that sit in the grass like that was so much
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: more of a hostile, loud, energetic fan base Kansas State
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: same way than any Nebraska game I've been to. Like
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: and it also I look at the people that are
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: going to those games versus the people that are going
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: to Nebraska games. The democratic is a little bit different.
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: The types of things they do during time outs, the
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: types of things they do at halftime, all the downtime.
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: It's just so different. It just feels authentic college football
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: not in Nebraska. I don't know that like that's all
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: in the plans to renovate, but it's hard because I
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: do think the older crowd people that are donating the
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: money that are are funding the athletic department, and there's
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: a big push for revenue enhancements. Troy Dana mentioned that
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: he threw out some staff that there's like forty three
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: percent of the seeds that are supposed to be getting
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: donated money for the tickets were grandfothered in by the
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: time when that was announced that they're not getting that revenue.
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: He knows that there's a need for more revenue with
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: all this stuff going on, but the ones that are
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: doing that's the older generation. And guess what, they're not
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: the ones that make the crowd hostile. Unfortunately, they're not
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: the ones. So there's it's a tough, tough balance on
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: what you're trying to accomplish with the stadium. Troy Dannen
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: seems to maybe have I has identified that other revenue
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: things he talked about was bringing in like two big
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: events a year outside of football, you know, the the
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: Garth Brooks concert and then the Husker volleyball event that
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: happened not too long ago. We mentioned there's an offer
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: out with Bud Crawford they come have a fight at
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: Memorial Stadium. Like having outside of football events come in
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: to make revenue seven to eight million of alcohol sales.
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: He mentioned it's about how much it brings in I'm
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: in a given year. And then he talked about South
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: Stadium is kind of the first big piece that is
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: going to be going into the renovation here in the
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: next couple of years. There's a lot there again when
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: football games, it's going to make things better. That's the
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: bottom line. I think the stadium stuff is important to
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: talk about. There is a lot of things we can
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: do to make it better. One thing, and if I
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: had to make one simple change to it is move
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: the damn student section to a place where they can
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: have a bigger impact on the game. If we're already
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: not going to have a wild and hostile student section.
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: No offense to the boneyard. But you're in a tough
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: spot like you are in and your ear zone it's
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: a corner of the end zone too, so like you,
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: you're not even that much on the field. Again, all
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: these other places, look where there's students sit. It's on
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: the side, on the side somewhere sometimes like k State,
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: right behind the benches. Go look at some of these
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: other places where they sit their students. The problem is
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: the money and the donors. People that pay the big bucks.
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: They want the best seats in the house. That there's
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: your conflict, there's your that's that's your tug and pull.
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: So it's tough like that is a tough decision to
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: decide to make it, you know. He mentioned the lack
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: of I can't remember the word he used, but like
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: the premium premium premium dollar seats, like the sweet type style,
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: like no place to even be outdoors. You have the
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: club level right being go sit, but there's no like
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: premium premium top dollar option. So you mentioned about you know,
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: installing maybe some of that again, a lot of stuff
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: that goes into it. It's a challenge. If you win
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: football games, it's going to get more hostile. But it's
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: a give and take because we haven't won many football
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: games and we're not very hostile, so it's hard. Like
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: that you said is gonna help too with the whole help,
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: But why did that take so long for us to
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: get to that point?
• 51:11
  Speaker 3: I'll sing about this today, Hunter, I mean, yeah, I
• 51:14
  Speaker 3: thought Missouri was ten times better than Nebraska at the
• 51:18
  Speaker 3: home game. But anyway, say that.
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: Think about this, Missouri is like what would you say
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: out of that, uh, sixteen sec teams are probably like
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: tenth in best stadium, So keep that in mind.
• 51:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but I was thinking about this too. We went
• 51:34
  Speaker 3: to night game and and do you think that it's
• 51:39
  Speaker 3: We thought it was so sweet because we're used to
• 51:42
  Speaker 3: Nebraska stadium, Like it's just a new environment. I mean,
• 51:46
  Speaker 3: I do think like the stuff they do, like the
• 51:49
  Speaker 3: third down song, the student section exists way more. I've
• 51:52
  Speaker 3: never seen in the rastling section like that, and I
• 51:56
  Speaker 3: and I think it has to do with how close
• 51:57
  Speaker 3: they are and because they're on the field like field
• 52:00
  Speaker 3: level like right there.
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: And some of these other road environments in the Big
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: Ten that I've been to. Purdue, Yeah, Indiana had to
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: suck in Indiana, well, because they're winning. It's hard. You're right.
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: I'm a little bit blinded in comparing them to Nebraska
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: because I've been to so many games at home.
• 52:22
  Speaker 3: Environment. It's not like that in Nebraska, like.
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: It was a night then we're not making bowl games
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: Like that's why the environment is not great. As we
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: go there, we get up and then we just know
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: we're gonna lose.
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: I mean, any of us go to Colorado this year,
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: see that and now I didn't that one I heard was,
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: but so's It'll be interested in looking back on that
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: in a couple of years how that gets compared to
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: and I'll say it even some of the games like
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: Miami and our Austin Iron College and Oregon. I'll I'll
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: be interested in five years, like is that Colorado game
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: ahead of those two, because those two were pretty crazy games.
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: I would say at home, I don't know, it's hard,
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: too soon to tell, probably a little bit of recency bias,
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: and I wasn't there, so it's hard to compare. The
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: Ohio State comeback was another big one that I remember
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: with pretty nuts with Rex ber Kead and Thevonte David
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: on the strip fumble. So we'll see. And I obviously
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: the old days, I have no idea. It just feels
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: like it's not as authentic anymore, especially the more road
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: games I go to and you see some of these
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: other things are doing. I'm like, God, that's a great idea,
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: that's cool, that's neat, and here we are doing I
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: don't even know what we do. I guess we do
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: the the Simba again family family friend thing and it's
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: kind of funny. But I'm not sitting you heard of that.
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: It just it's a very different feel and if you win,
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: it changes. It does like the will Compton thing that
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: was fresh, like that was new, that brought I think
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: a little bit of hype and the liveliness. But guess
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: what the old people probably were like, get that stuff
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: out of here, like we don't like that. We don't
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: know what I mean, But that's kind of the fan
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: base that talk about the demographic of who's at the games.
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: That's what they that's what they do, and you sit
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: around them. I'm like, like, Dak, how much did we
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: sit in that Missouri game?
• 54:12
  Speaker 3: I did on the very last play, but besides that,
• 54:14
  Speaker 3: I didn't how.
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: Much was the tickets for the Missouri game?
• 54:17
  Speaker 3: One hundred and thirty?
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we played one hundred and thirty first, I mean
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: we were thirty yard line, thirty rows up.
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: Oh okay, So.
• 54:26
  Speaker 3: I would say that environment is better than any house
• 54:29
  Speaker 3: game I've been to.
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: No, I I it just it was we stood about
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: the whole game like it's just weird and again night game.
• 54:37
  Speaker 3: And everybody around us into it too, Like yeah.
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: Versus when I go to Indiana. I can't remember if
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: I told the story on the podcast or not. I
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: go to Indiana and I'm sitting in the Nebraska stands
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: up top like in the corner and there's probably thirty
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: rows three sections why of Nebraska fans and the very
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: first drive, I'm standing up and there's a lady behind
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: me in Nebraska fan and I noticed that we standing
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: and she didn't want to stand, so I kind of
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: leaned over to the size so she could see through.
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: And she goes, oh no, no, no, no, don't worry about it.
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: She goes, I'll just I'll just look through you. I'm like,
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: oh okay. I was like, she's like, no, trust me.
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: She goes, no different than any home game. That can
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: never see a damn game there anyways, And he was
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: I guess I had the right to yell at you
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: now though, And I was like, holy, like, this is
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: the first drive of the game, and I have a
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: Nebraska fan on a road game, like not. She wasn't
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: showing me out, but she made a sarcastic comment about
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: me standing like it just that's the whole mindset of
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: a fan right now, of what a Nebraska fan is,
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: even though we travel a lot. It's it's just so strange.
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: It's so different.
• 55:43
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, Missouri is they're winning right now. I mean,
• 55:47
  Speaker 4: they're good right now, so I think. But you said winning, well,
• 55:51
  Speaker 4: it doesn't cure all, but a gosh darn helps.
• 55:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah, And it wasn't. It wasn't like it was a
• 56:00
  Speaker 3: great game throughout you that it was still allowed. The
• 56:02
  Speaker 3: whole time, like I don't know. I think I think
• 56:07
  Speaker 3: winning will help out a lot, like you guys don't
• 56:10
  Speaker 3: even do like that was a blackout. You guys don't
• 56:12
  Speaker 3: even themes either, like wide out and that brings I
• 56:16
  Speaker 3: think that brings energy to that place with that you
• 56:19
  Speaker 3: total blackout like everybody is.
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: It's another weird thing that that Nebraska doesn't do. Our
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: alternate alternate uniforms have sucked for years. Blame it on Adidas.
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: I guess, I don't know, but you know, the blackout.
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: We try to a couple of times, but we did.
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: Never seems to work out. I agree, like there's none
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: of that. All these other places do that and some
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: people think that's all a little bit like false. I
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: don't know. Excitement, but as a as a to be
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: a hostile crowd like that stuff matters, I think, and
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: in game stuff like being wow, that's the one place
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: that you can impact the game or a season is
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: being hostile. But we're i'll say it too nice. The
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: comment rule made like don't be Nebraska nice until Sunday
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: this week, like that that is the type of fans
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: that you I don't be mean, I'm gonna be jerks,
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: but be hostile, like make make it no to the
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: players that like this is gonna be a you will
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: throw stuff on the field, tortillas in the field, Texas Tech.
• 57:25
  Speaker 3: Another another thing that I think adds to it is
• 57:30
  Speaker 3: that was a old Big twelve like rivalry right there.
• 57:34
  Speaker 3: How many Big ten teams do you like? My olahoma, sorry,
• 57:37
  Speaker 3: don't like each other? How many Big ten teams do
• 57:39
  Speaker 3: you not like? Your fans don't like each other? The
• 57:44
  Speaker 3: problem is we haven't been good, so yeah, you haven't built.
• 57:48
  Speaker 2: We don't like a lot of teams, but they don't
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: care about us because they kill us every year.
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: We also don't have opposing fans like like me coming
• 57:57
  Speaker 3: in there yelling.
• 57:59
  Speaker 4: Right like, even like the I have a game, I
• 58:00
  Speaker 4: feel like we're much more into it than Iowa is yep,
• 58:04
  Speaker 4: because we always lose.
• 58:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, Michigan fans come here, they don't They're not
• 58:10
  Speaker 3: gonna say anything because they're expected to win.
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they're confident. Yeah all right, Well, I know it's
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: a little bit sidetracked from the actual game, but we'll
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: talk more u SC on Wednesday here in a couple
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: of days. There's something else we're going to talk about. Oh,
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: I was gonna mention the Rascal basketball. I had no
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: idea what happened in the game. I haven't watched a
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: single clip. I guess know. I won by five.
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: And the ladies also kind of barely one as well.
• 58:54
  Speaker 3: They play another they play like and nobody.
• 58:57
  Speaker 4: Yep, they're trillion after the third. They ended up winning
• 59:01
  Speaker 4: by ten.
• 59:01
  Speaker 3: But the boys team's offense is gonna be Yeah, it's
• 59:07
  Speaker 3: gonna be tough to watch. Bringing Dan Dana Holgerson, he.
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: Was calling the boys the boys, the boys.
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  Speaker 3: Team, men's team, the boys.
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: We'll see it'll it'll be interesting. I do believe we
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: play Wednesday against Fairley Dickinson, the team that upset Purdue
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: years ago. I think they got blown out by Creighton
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: on Sunday, and then Saint John's I believe is on
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: Sunday or Saint Mary's St. Mary's up in uh Sioux Falls.
• 59:40
  Speaker 3: That'll be the one you'll be able to really see
• 59:43
  Speaker 3: how good you are. I don't know Mary, but I
• 59:46
  Speaker 3: don't think he's just the spread. I guess will be
• 59:48
  Speaker 3: less than five, probably either way.
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: But then we play Creighton that next week, so I
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: would say most probably will expect us to be three
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: and two after the next couple of weeks. But well, we'll.
• 59:59
  Speaker 2: See volleyball team's cruising, still cruising.
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  Speaker 4: Thank god, we have them hostile environment right there.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 2: We can do it. It's within us.
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  Speaker 3: We'll do it. But that. I'm still pissed about that game,
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 3: but we don't have to talk about it.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: I guess background. We went to the Missouri Oklahoma game
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: this weekend, a lot of fun. Just leave it at that.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 3: If I heard that chant one more time walk in
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 3: the stadium, I don't know what I would have done.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 3: I had to get out of there.
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