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#44: Scarcity to Prosperity: Escaping the Net Worth Trap and Finding Inner Fulfillment — JP Newman · Love Conquers Fear

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  What was my relationship with money?
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  Am I trustworthy with money? Are my friends going to see me
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  the same way? How am I going to be with my
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  wife? Am I going to get arrogant?
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  And I realized that all these money stories from childhood
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  that were still dictating and causing me misery.
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  And I call it the net worth trap.
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  So the net worth trap is you chase, you chase, you chase, you
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  finally make it. But if you don't have
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  frameworks, what do you do? Defend, defend, defend.
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  So you stay in anxiety and stress and you don't feel like
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  you have enough and you never get safe with a number for all
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  these things that you think you want.
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  What are you actually solving for?
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  What are we actually trying to do?
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  We're trying to find feeling. What feelings are we trying to
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  find? Happiness, Peace, presence.
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  So then how do we solve for that?
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  Welcome back everybody to the Love Conquers Fear podcast.
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  I am coming off a morning high where I was editing my book
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  coming out Love Conquers Fear with the subtitle Humanity, AI
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  and Age Abundance for All. And it was on a really serious
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  topic. Chapter 5 of the book is on
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  nuclear weapons and warfare. You know, it's, it's, it's a
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  heavy topic, but wow, I am so honored to be delivering this
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  type of work to humanity. It you know, it's, it's weird
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  when you're writing a book and you're flowing and writing these
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  chapters and then you come back for the tedious editing process
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  with the publisher to get it to final, you know, print ready and
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  you get to reread your book all over again.
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  And it is a really good piece of work.
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  I mean, I know that that sounds that sounds like I'm not being
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  humble, but I am rooted in humility.
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  And this is this is a work that really is important for all of
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  humanity. This is my soul song.
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  And it makes me really proud to read it and think about what
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  it's going to mean when it's in your hands later this year.
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  And we've got a lot of work to do.
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  I mean, there's a lot lot going on in that chapter and other
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  chapters. So anyways, coming off that that
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  morning high of working through that also a lot of discussion
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  still on the malt book, you know, virality in terms of, you
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  know, is this conscious AI and this is the warning, you know,
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  signal that humanity needed to really wake up.
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  And you know, it certainly is a security nightmare.
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  There's no doubt about that. Like if you gave an AI agent at
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  this stage, you know, access to all of your personal
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  information, your credit card information, your e-mail, you
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  know, with how much of humanity's content they're
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  trained on, which is both the best of our content as well as
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  the worst of our content. You know, cyber attacks and
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  everything else. Not a really good idea right
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  now. And I think that this is a good
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  wake up call in the sense that it's a fire drill.
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  I've written about that quite a bit on LinkedIn.
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  So it's important that that we have these types of incidences
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  to get humanity to pay attention.
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  And I don't think it's any mistake.
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  I think it's a synchronicity very reminiscent of the
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  Celestine Prophecy. Great book by James Redfield
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  that, you know, Dario's essay, The Adolescence of Technology,
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  that that essay came out on the Monday of the week that this
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  malt book thing went totally viral.
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  And we'll get into that a bit today with my guest.
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  We were just talking about it before and we both find it
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  really fascinating. And Mustafi Soliman, who is the
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  Co founder of DeepMind and the head of everything AI at
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  Microsoft, you know, put out a pretty interesting post on
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  LinkedIn about the seemingly conscious AI.
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  And he's really worried about humanity assuming that these AIS
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  are already conscious. And I think in a way it's our
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  lack of love for each other as humanity that we already just
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  immediately kind of jumped to. Well, of course it's conscious
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  when we don't even know what consciousness is, which is what
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  we talked about with a Neil where he laid out a very cogent
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  argument on why AI can't become conscious.
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  Mustafa Suleiman has a big, big megaphone being in charge of
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  everything, AI, Microsoft and him going out there and saying,
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  look, these aren't conscious. They're seemingly conscious.
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  They're faking it essentially because they're trained on all
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  of humanity's content. I think this is a really
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  important PSA. He, he has a type of megaphone
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  to really make that case. And then I'm really excited that
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  Brandon Gudochi is going to come on this podcast.
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  I just just confirmed that he was one of our best at dated out
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  world, really headed AI operations for us.
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  He has his own consulting practice now and is really doing
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  a great job out there helping more and more companies become
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  AI enabled and therefore much more efficient and much more
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  creative. You know, AI really shatters the
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  barrier to creativity. I was just talking to my guest
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  about an AI based song he just made and how he's going to be
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  working alongside that. So we could we could talk about
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  that and I'm just really excited that that my good buddy is going
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  to be be coming on. Brandon was really, really
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  exceptional. And stay tuned because in a
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  couple of episodes you'll see Evan Alexander, the author of
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  Proof of Heaven. I'm so honored that he's coming
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  to Austin and going to be on this podcast as well.
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  It was one of the most important books that really shifted me at
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  the beginning of my soul quest, where I read over 55 books in
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  the last 14 months or so. So today I have one of my best
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  friends on. Really excited to welcome JP
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  Newman. Yeah.
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  Hey, Brad, It's so great to be here.
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  I just love listening to your opening.
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  It's like I always learn. Every time I'm with you, I learn
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  something. It's incredible.
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  Thanks so much, man. Yeah, Well, I always tell people
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  this, you know, I've known you for a long time that, that
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  you're the embodiment of love. Like, that's, that's usually the
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  way. Thank you.
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  And it's it's so true. And, you know, there's so much
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  for us to cover on this. You and I have done so many
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  things together in the Jewish community and in other
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  communities. Maybe we just start out with,
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  with what you're working on now, because fulfilling in there
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  really is, you know, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm doing this work is my
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  soul song and fulfilling in there is your soul song.
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  And it really is about the path to eternal happiness for, for
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  human beings. So I'm going to start there.
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  Absolutely. Well, like a little bit of how I
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  got here, Brad. Like you know, I've been in
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  commercial real estate for 20 years with my company through
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  IFP and I think it's just been observational.
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  I've dealt with so many high net worth individuals and I realized
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  that in some ways I felt like a financial psychologist.
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  And I really realized even through my own journey that for
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  so many years I was chasing to make money.
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  And then when I actually made money, I had no real like
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  framework or format of like what the money actually meant and
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  when to stop, like how much was enough?
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  There was no rules, which caused me a lot of insecurity.
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  And so this fulfilling really is a birth of how do we create and
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  align money with fulfilment? How do we align money with
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  peace, joy and presence, right? Because so many of us,
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  especially when we're young and it's all over the media and
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  Instagram, but what are we supposed to be doing?
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  Providing. And the richer you get, somehow
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  you're going to find love. That woman's going to fall in
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  love with you because you became this successful entrepreneur.
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  I mean, it's, it's in our music, it's in our lyrics, it's
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  everywhere. So we kind of have these false
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  narratives. I think of like what Love
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  Actually is. And I think for women, it's like
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  being super beautiful and bringing in that, that king.
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  And I think for men, a lot of the narrative has been just make
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  up lots of money, drive a Lamborghini and that perfect
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  woman and somehow you guys are going to find love like a great
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  Disney film. But you and I both know that's
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  not exactly how love or fulfilment or peace actually
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  works. So the work for me, the birth of
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  a billionaire, which is obviously a joke on a
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  millionaire. So obviously that this idea of
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  chasing status as a millionaire or whatever you're going to be
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  versus actually aligning where your money is that your, that
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  literally your financial plan and your money is like the root
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  of currency, which is energy to the, I call it the four
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  dimensions of wealth. So if you're just collecting
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  money as a fulfillionaire, you're living in one dimension.
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  And I feel like a lot of people live in one dimension.
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  And when you live in one dimension, you, you can't find
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  fulfillment. And from my own experience, I
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  know that you, you spend so much, you listen to Tony
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  Robbins, you do the things, you do the affirmations, you work 20
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  hours a week and you finally get there.
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  You actually finally chase it. You chase it, you chase the
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  money and you get there. And then what happens when you
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  get there? Well, my experience was anxiety.
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  I joke and I say when I, but it was actually what happened when
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  I, I had a vision board and when I got my first BMWI, had a
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  vision board of this BMW convertible.
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  And I wanted it so bad. And when it got delivered to my
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  house and I got it, when I put my hands on the steering while I
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  sat in the car, I freaked out. Like I wasn't prepared for
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  actually money. I, I just, it was the weirdest
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  thing. And I think what I realized from
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  that point forward was like, I didn't have a relationship with
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  money and I didn't know if I could like, what was my
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  relationship with money? Am I trustworthy with money?
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  Am I, are my friends going to see me the same way as my wife?
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  Like, how am I going to be with my wife?
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  Am I going to get arrogant? And I realized had all these
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  money stories from childhood that were still dictating and
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  causing me misery. And I call it the net worth
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  trap. So the net worth trap is you
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  chase, you chase, you chase, you finally make it.
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  But if you don't have frameworks, what do you do?
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  Defend, defend, defend. So you stay in anxiety and
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  stress and you don't feel like you have enough.
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  And you never get safe with a number.
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  Like what's your number? What do most people say when you
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  talk to people like around money?
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  What I mean, you're very lucky. You are a fulfilling, are you?
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  You've gotten there. But a lot of people like, what
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  would they say to you? It's like if you were to ask the
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  question, you know, what number do you need?
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  What's your what's your freedom number to feel safe around
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  money? What would most people?
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  Say, well, the one, the one that I've heard the most, which is a
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  obscene number, is $100 million. Right, So I always ask the
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  second whatever someone says to me, it's usually a net worth I,
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  I want to be worth 100 million or it's, I want a 2X or 4X my
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  business. That's like very, very common.
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  My own next question, because I've mentored a lot of people
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  now through, through the years of doing this and many, many
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  investors is why, like, what does that number mean?
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  What does $100 million mean to you?
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  And then there's usually a story, and I call this your
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  cocktail story. It's the story you tell at a
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  party about who you are. And if you're in that, why these
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  things matter. I like to travel.
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  I, I drive Lamborghinis, whatever your story is, that's
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  what you tried to tell the story.
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  But then you go to the next question.
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  So why is that important to you? Like, why is that travel?
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  Why is having a boat? Why are these things happening
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  to you? And usually people will continue
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  to go into stories and these stories to actually start a lot
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  of them from childhood. So you keep telling stories, but
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  what you're missing is what I call the why.
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  So for all these things that you think you want, what are you
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  actually solving for? What's the money?
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  Because remember, why are we chasing money?
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  It's just paper and and metal. It's got no intrinsic value.
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  What are we actually trying to do?
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  We're trying to find feelings. What feelings are we trying to
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  find? Happiness, peace, presence.
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  So then how do we solve for that?
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  And when I start to get down the line with most people until
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  their why, I call it the why that makes you cry.
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  The why of the things that matter to you most, your your
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  friends, your family, your wife, your community, your presence,
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  what makes you actually happy. There seems to be a
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  disconnection. So fulfilling her for me has
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  really been 20 years of watching a lot of wealthy people that
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  I've managed incredibly fearful and not clear and feeling very
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  unsafe around money. It always amazes me and and you
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  and I are both philanthropist. I'm amazed now that I've had to
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  pick up the phone for the last couple years and raise money
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  that sometimes my wealthiest like friends don't donate.
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  They're not really philanthropist and I know why
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  they don't feel safe. There's always a story like it
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  wasn't a good year for my business or all these different
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  stories. But the truth is, if you don't
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  have safety or clarity of knowing kind of things that
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  matter to you most, it's really hard to be a great giver, which
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  is the very nature of currencies, to be able to give
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  and receive and so fulfilling. It.
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  Is it is and so fulfilling. There's really my 20 years of
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  experience of investors, my own story.
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  It took me years to figure this out of how I can feel safe and
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  I'm an entrepreneur in a real estate company.
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  I have my great years and I've got down years right now.
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  This is the winter. These are like really, really
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  hard years in real estate. Then there was really up years.
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  So how do you create a container of safety and clarity,
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  especially when you're an entrepreneur and you don't have
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  predictable sources of income? And and that that was the birth
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  of fulfilling, which is essentially how do we get clear
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  on mindset? Like what was the mindset like
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  the things you had from childhood getting just aware of
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  like the things that drive you 'cause I think a lot of people
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  like want mine was for my grandfather.
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  My my Jewish, my Zeta money doesn't grow on trees, right?
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  And I was told to always like eat everything off my plate.
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  Like it's like it was kind of scarcity like and the other one
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  I was given at a young age was you can't have it all.
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  So like if I'm which is why when I got in the BMW and I thought
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  it was my wife gonna still like me.
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  What were my friends think about me is because my early story was
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  you can't have it all. The shoe has to drop.
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  You can't have money and be happily married, have happy
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  kids, have friends that actually like you for who you are.
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  You not being a good person and keeping your energy clear and
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  not becoming not getting temptate temptations of things
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  you probably shouldn't be doing that are less than right.
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  Desirable. You know this, this as you, as
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  you, as you say this. I mean, of course I know it's
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  true. You and I both done a lot of
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  inner work and a very spiritual people.
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  And you know what, what Anthony D'mello would call this in his
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  book awareness is this is part of waking up.
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  It's like deprogramming. You know, when Taro was on the
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  podcast, I think that was episode 14 or so in the founder
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  for Sigmatic, his favorite book out of 130 that he read on his
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  own soul quest as he started to wake up was awareness.
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  And you know, the the programming that we receive is
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  constant. I mean, the algorithms of social
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  media and the media are constantly seeking to hijack our
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  basest emotions, which are really hardwired because we've
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  had 300,000 years on this planet as Homo sapiens and 99.9% of
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  that time we haven't had electricity.
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  So we've only had electricity for .1% of the time.
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  So it's incredible. Think about.
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  That it's incredible to think about, right and now now you and
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  I are are in this generation, which will be the last
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  generation to remember life before the Internet.
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  You know, of course we remember life before mobile.
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  And now we're going to say we remember life before, you know,
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  AII was actually. Thinking about that this
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  morning, I was thinking, God, it's it's crazy that at camp
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  when I was a kid, it was an AM transistor radio.
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  I mean, it was literally a pocket radio to like where we've
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  come in my life. Yeah.
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  Could have never imagined. Yeah.
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  Like as I'm writing songs and I last night I had a dream.
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  Actually was two nights ago I had a dream I bought ATV series
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  it just which doesn't usually channel through me called side
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  hustle and I wrote it up in the morning.
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  That's cool. I just me and AI wrote it up so.
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  I was very that's very Rick Rubin and the creative act.
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  You got the download. I did.
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  And you know, I'm listening to Rick Rubin on Audible right now
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  and I think Rick, I think it actually is channeling through
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  me. I literally wrote an entire TV
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  series. I think it's really that's a
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  comedy that's kind of socially relevant, almost like Roseanne,
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  but my own version of today's modern, which I'll bore you with
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  never really. Speaking about the, the barrier
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  to creativity being shattered, you know, it'll just be a couple
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  of years before you can take one of these AI video tools, whether
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  it's video, whether it's, you know, Sora, and actually make
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  that into ATV series for, for a very, very low price.
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  And you know, same thing with with the Lattice, my science
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  fiction novella. I've kind of joked since I've
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  come out with it, it'll probably be two years before it will be a
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  movie. You know, I can't I could, I
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  could do that today if I did like 10 second clips and kind of
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  pieced it all together. But it'll be a much, much better
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  product in a couple of years. And and so I'm.
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  Going down the rabbit hole of exactly what you're saying
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  because remember, I don't remember, I came from Sony
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  Pictures where they were producing animation and family
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  entertainment. And so as someone who's produced
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  a lot of television programming in my past life, I'm watching
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  this with so much excitement because I exactly The Lattice
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  will be a film. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  You know, I went in, in, in the Grand Canyon trip that I went
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  on. You know, I told you about that
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  trip and how spiritual that trip was because there's nothing but
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  presence there. You know, there's no
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  electricity. There's, there's no flushing
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  toilets. There's, you know, everything is
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  you, you're really in in the wild.
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  You know, you're going to come back to society, which is, which
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  is nice. But for eight days, you're just
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  completely present with the people there.
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  And there was this TV writer on the trip who at the beginning of
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  the trip was very fearful of AI and what it would mean for his
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  field. But by the end, and he and I
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  were talking every day about it, he became much more optimistic
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  because he educated me on something that you would know.
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  I was just totally ignorant to this.
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  And it makes sense. It's like total common sense.
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  But not being from that industry that you know what often what
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  determines a bad film or a bad TV series or a good one is that
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  there is a set budget. And if you start out wrong, you
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  know, with something that's that the roots not going to be a
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  great one to grow from. Sorry, you're just out of budget
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  and you know, even though you have the ideas later on that
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  would have made it great, there's no more budget.
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  Whereas AI will allow you to test so many different concepts.
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  Yeah. And then produce, right.
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  What? What?
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  What you actually? It also gets rid of the
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  gatekeepers. Like at my time, I was a
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  gatekeeper when I worked for something, I was a gatekeeper
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  when I pitched my shows. There was other.
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  There's so many like very few places to go still today where
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  you can get it out there. And I think that's going to, I
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  think what will happen, it'll be like infinite product, but like
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  the best will rise to the top like that, whether it's the
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  lattice or whatever comes out. I've got a dream show that I
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  really want to, I have one in me right now that I want to make.
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  That's awesome. It's almost like a South Park.
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  It's social commentary. It's called the adjusters.
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  I'll have to tell you about it. And, and it's social commentary.
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  It's something that you make on the fly.
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  And I I think in the next two to three years I could see myself
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  actually producing. That that would be that would be
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  pretty well. And either 400 people will see
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  it or 4 million. But it democratizes what people
• 19:31
  see right by by by thumbs up by community.
• 19:34
  So really, the best product should actually float to the.
• 19:37
  Top Yeah well, so coming back to to deprogramming, I mean, it
• 19:42
  just is the the the the case that that the inner journey, you
• 19:50
  know is the one that all the spiritual traditions talk about
• 19:53
  and it and essentially it's a journey of love conquering fear.
• 19:57
  You know that we went to Bhutan over the.
• 20:00
  Over the December break and you and I haven't talked about that
• 20:03
  trip a lot, but a lot of people look at you and me and they'll
• 20:08
  say, oh, I need to be financially sex successful to,
• 20:12
  you know, to walk this spiritual path.
• 20:15
  And it's just not true at all. I mean, Bhutan, I'm writing
• 20:18
  about Bhutan is one of the case studies in in love conquest
• 20:22
  here. I've actually already written
• 20:24
  that part. And their whole GDP is $2
• 20:28
  billion, which is 3 weeks of coffee in the United States, OK.
• 20:32
  That's the entire GDP of the country.
• 20:34
  And they measure themselves on gross national happiness.
• 20:38
  And that was a very explicit choice that they made, you know,
• 20:42
  and around the the 1970s to say we're going to measure ourselves
• 20:47
  on that versus GDP. And even though, you know, you
• 20:51
  won't see a Lamborghini in Bhutan, I mean, I don't think 1
• 20:55
  exists in Bhutan, not just because of their financial
• 20:59
  status, just because they wouldn't crave something like
• 21:01
  that. They, they, they have such a
• 21:02
  sense of deprogramming. You know, they're, they're all,
• 21:05
  almost all of them are deeply Buddhist.
• 21:08
  They meditate every day. They're all about inner
• 21:11
  contentment, the inner journey. And, you know, they've, they're,
• 21:16
  they're immune to the programming that we receive in
• 21:20
  America, which is constantly trying to keep us in the
• 21:23
  stimulus state of, you know, craving the next dopamine hit
• 21:29
  or, you know, trying to follow that next, you know, horrible
• 21:33
  story. And in a world of 8.2 billion
• 21:35
  humans, every single day, there's something really
• 21:39
  horrible happening. I mean, you know, you and I both
• 21:42
  Jewish, you know, October 7th was really, really bad.
• 21:45
  Like that was really scary. I had nightmares about that for
• 21:48
  months, you know, because that is that type of stuff is very
• 21:52
  existential for our people, you know, to see something like that
• 21:55
  and but. What makes her add to you think
• 21:57
  about it, and this is to me is really disturbing is like with
• 22:01
  AI, we think about it, everybody wants to be an influencer now
• 22:04
  ultimately sell a product. So I, you learn a lot about
• 22:06
  funnels, right? And so with AI it's it's
• 22:10
  incredibly easy to learn how to manipulate dopamine.
• 22:14
  So I can sell you. I can go with the next product
• 22:16
  and literally AI is going to help me figure out whether you
• 22:20
  need this product or not, what you're missing from your life.
• 22:22
  Like you're, I mean, cause the biggest thing is like, I'm not
• 22:24
  enough, but this little piece will solve some problem for me.
• 22:27
  It's a product or service that will, that will solve some
• 22:30
  problem that I'm having, which isn't a bad thing on the
• 22:33
  surface. That's beautiful.
• 22:34
  Like you know that the market's driven to solve humanity's
• 22:37
  problems. The problem is when everybody
• 22:40
  has these perfect coaches coming out and selling you things that
• 22:44
  aren't coming from consciousness, they're coming
• 22:46
  from somebody wanting to make money and ultimately be
• 22:49
  extractive versus a creative. And so that's the tricky part.
• 22:54
  And it goes back to like being consciously human.
• 22:57
  We're going to get so good at telling people on social media
• 23:02
  or the media that there's something unsafe or something
• 23:05
  that they need. And that has been the hypnotism
• 23:08
  that's kept us from the freedom that you're describing about.
• 23:11
  Yeah, you know, there there's a, there's a really funny book I
• 23:16
  listen to by Doctor David. I think it's last name is
• 23:21
  Dawkins. It's called How to Surrender to
• 23:23
  God, and it's a series of his lectures.
• 23:26
  And Mark Goldberg was the one that originally turned me on to
• 23:29
  him. I know you're, you're good
• 23:30
  friends with Mark. You know, it's essentially what
• 23:33
  what David is saying in that book is that there's a lot of
• 23:38
  people that they do deprogram and they deprogram to the point
• 23:44
  where they actually moved to Sedona.
• 23:46
  He's joking about this and get rid of all of their material
• 23:49
  items and move into like, you know, very meager, you know,
• 23:54
  housing. And he said then they, you know,
• 23:57
  go out to a couple of dinners and realize they need a
• 24:03
  refrigerator, so they go buy a refrigerator and they kind of re
• 24:06
  accumulate. And he's like the whole point.
• 24:09
  And he sees the cycle over and over again.
• 24:11
  And he's like, the whole point is to not be owned by your
• 24:14
  material items. I, I actually experience that
• 24:16
  all the time. I'm like, I, I see that the more
• 24:18
  you acquire, the more you are owned by the things.
• 24:22
  And, and Brett, one acknowledgement when you use the
• 24:23
  Bhutan example is, look, the reality is, and I talked about
• 24:27
  this in fulfilling air, if you can't pay your rent and you're
• 24:31
  really suffering and you don't have access to food or medical
• 24:36
  care, it's really, really hard to be peaceful.
• 24:38
  And, and so we all kind of know that you have to have your basic
• 24:42
  needs. It's your Maslov's, you know,
• 24:44
  law. And so and so if you don't have
• 24:47
  your hierarchy of needs meet, like so it's not just all peace
• 24:50
  and love will get you there. You have to have your basic need
• 24:53
  needs met, including love. But once you get to that point
• 24:57
  of safety, love, peace, and you have food in your belly, your
• 25:01
  roof is good like, and you feel safe like no one's, there's no
• 25:05
  war. There's no one invading.
• 25:07
  You're not worried that God, unfortunately, like a lot of
• 25:08
  wars and genocides, you're not worried about your family, your
• 25:12
  safety, then you really have the keys to the Kingdom.
• 25:15
  Because as you know, I think in America, that number these days
• 25:18
  is about $75,000, might be 100 now with inflation.
• 25:22
  But the point is, like, once your safety needs are met, you
• 25:26
  know this, your incremental happiness from going to those
• 25:30
  basic needs to a lot of stuff, it can go up like 510%.
• 25:34
  And I can tell you there was a lot of great experiences that
• 25:36
  you and I get to do. We get to go to Ted together,
• 25:38
  which is not a cheap conference to get there.
• 25:40
  Like there's wonderful things that we get to experience when
• 25:43
  you get to the next level. But arguably, see, those are
• 25:46
  incremental. And they say that the
• 25:47
  billionaire's dilemma is, even if it's more incremental, 'cause
• 25:50
  there's so few things on planet Earth that you can't do if
• 25:54
  you're worth 500 million or or a billion.
• 25:57
  So what happens when you're worth 100 billion or 200
• 25:59
  billion? You can what, buy a bunch of
• 26:01
  houses? You can buy a bigger boat or
• 26:03
  maybe a helicopter. The problem is you're only this
• 26:06
  meat suit of one person who would only be at one place at
• 26:08
  one time. So to your point, all these
• 26:11
  things to start to own you and need to be managed with crews.
• 26:14
  So then your life gets filled with like mundane details that
• 26:19
  have nothing to do with presence, joy or peace.
• 26:21
  You're just managing. You've actually been enslaved,
• 26:23
  in my opinion, to manage a bunch of things, to maybe impress
• 26:29
  others, show status, whatever it is for you, But you're not
• 26:31
  getting the the gains. If you're really an efficient
• 26:34
  human being and you're really kind of gearing and aiming for
• 26:38
  happiness as your target. That wouldn't be a great
• 26:41
  strategy if you're an alien looking down on the planet.
• 26:43
  Yeah. I mean, you know, walking the
• 26:46
  spiritual path and just, you know, deprogramming myself, it's
• 26:52
  led to me, you know, doing things that I never thought I
• 26:55
  would do because I never really had a problem with it.
• 26:58
  Like, for example, giving up alcohol.
• 27:00
  Like, I don't have any bad days, you know, the next day.
• 27:04
  Like, I never have a hangover. And I know that, you know, John
• 27:07
  Mackey has done that. But, you know, the bigger point
• 27:12
  here is that the path is whether you follow a spiritual path or
• 27:17
  where you follow Stoicism, is that happiness is only found on
• 27:22
  the inside. There is, there is no other
• 27:24
  place you're going to find it. There's no accumulation of
• 27:27
  material items that's going to get you there.
• 27:29
  There there is no end to, to the greed of accumulation.
• 27:36
  If that is honestly how you are measuring yourself worth.
• 27:41
  Yeah. And there's a there's a there's
• 27:43
  a huge difference. I mean, you know, and I just
• 27:46
  want to, I just want to emphasize that a place like
• 27:49
  Bhutan, you know, stares at you in the face because you know,
• 27:54
  when we're when we're leaving there, there was this, there was
• 27:57
  this beautiful ceremony where, where was this blessing by, by
• 28:00
  this monk and one of the women in American woman attending.
• 28:06
  It was a family trip. So we had our kids there.
• 28:08
  She had her kids there and their college age kids.
• 28:12
  She was crying, you know, and she was like, Oh my gosh, I want
• 28:15
  to bring this back to America. Like I want to bring this
• 28:18
  feeling and this peace back to America.
• 28:21
  And I felt, I felt it. I felt her heart.
• 28:23
  I felt exactly what she was feeling.
• 28:26
  And you know, she, she's there. She, she definitely is someone
• 28:32
  that that has accumulated a lot like like we have.
• 28:37
  And, you know, we're, we're sitting in a country in Bhutan
• 28:41
  where the people are much happier than the average
• 28:45
  American, which I think is, you know, we have a loneliness and
• 28:49
  depression epidemic in this country.
• 28:51
  And so, you know, as Jason Carp said on episode 3 of this
• 28:54
  podcast, we have to transcend this, putting profits over
• 28:58
  people. And that's a big part of what
• 29:01
  love conquers fear is all about. It's like I'm trying to get
• 29:04
  humanity with this to, I'm trying to be a part of the hard
• 29:07
  shift that humanity needs so that we embrace abundance for
• 29:12
  all. Meaning everyone on this planet
• 29:14
  realizing that we're 99.9% the same DNA wise, like this deep
• 29:18
  love for all of humanity so we don't destroy ourselves, you
• 29:24
  know, because we're, we're, you know, there, there is a lot of
• 29:28
  dystopian fear out there, whether it's AI or nuclear
• 29:31
  weapons or whatever it is that is justified if we don't course
• 29:39
  correct in terms of our path. And I do think the consciousness
• 29:43
  awakening that you and I are seeing is happening in
• 29:47
  conjunction with this rise of AI.
• 29:49
  You know, there's a huge rise in psychedelics and meditation and
• 29:54
  this pursuit of happiness. You know, the, the, if the
• 29:59
  pursuit of happiness does not include a deep focus on the
• 30:04
  inner journey, I'm very skeptical of it.
• 30:06
  Yes, 'cause it's like, is it just happiness on the surface
• 30:08
  level or it's actually like lasting?
• 30:10
  So, so, but I want to throw if I can.
• 30:12
  I want to throw it into you, please.
• 30:13
  The reason why I'm fulfilling our works now is ironically it's
• 30:16
  technology. Yeah.
• 30:18
  After going 20 years, I don't know what your experience or you
• 30:20
  have a family office. So it's different.
• 30:22
  I've had financial planners and I've never been satisfied
• 30:25
  because again, I find like financial planners, once again,
• 30:29
  they keep you in your head. I call it the one, you know,
• 30:30
  back to 1 dimensional wealth. What do most people say?
• 30:33
  Diversified portfolio stocks over time save money so that
• 30:38
  when you retire, which was a whole other concept in itself, I
• 30:40
  don't believe in so that when you retire, you have money to
• 30:44
  retire with. That's kind of what we tell most
• 30:46
  people in our financial system that's completely based on
• 30:49
  scarcity. It's like keep keep squirreling
• 30:51
  away in some ways. And the question you really
• 30:54
  haven't asked me deeply is about my happiness, like what deeply
• 30:57
  makes me happy? And then you haven't connected
• 30:59
  my plan to accumulate this energy called money, currency
• 31:04
  with the things you haven't asked me, what matters to me
• 31:06
  most and why haven't we connected those together?
• 31:09
  And what's really, really cool right now is I have some of the
• 31:12
  smartest artificial intelligence prompters helped me with this.
• 31:16
  And it came from my own frustration of I go through
• 31:20
  financial, I've gone through a bunch of them until I kind of
• 31:23
  found my own format where I didn't feel like they were
• 31:25
  asking me the right question. So now like my format, I have
• 31:28
  these two day workshops here in Austin, but we literally start
• 31:31
  with, hey, let's get to our money stories and our beliefs
• 31:34
  that came from childhood. That's the that's the iceberg
• 31:36
  underneath the water. And I find so many people gas
• 31:39
  break with money. The wiser company, they make
• 31:42
  money and then they lose it. They play the lottery because
• 31:44
  once again, you don't have your beliefs of actually empowering
• 31:47
  beliefs like money. And I think you have this
• 31:50
  experience. It's like money has the ability
• 31:52
  to completely change peoples lives.
• 31:54
  Like I can become. The more money I accumulate, the
• 31:57
  more influence I can make on the planet and uplift peoples lives.
• 32:00
  That is so much better then money grows on trees, which is
• 32:04
  again once going to scarcity. So once I clear through like
• 32:08
  some of my beliefs, that takes some time, but that is not easy
• 32:11
  to actually D root. And this is back to you the
• 32:12
  spiritual journey, by the way. So actually money in your heart,
• 32:16
  in my belief are are they're they're running parallel paths
• 32:20
  because once you loosen up the 300,000 years of survival that
• 32:26
  you it's OK. There's not scarcity.
• 32:27
  There's actually is enough. Then you can go to the next
• 32:30
  step. What do I actually want?
• 32:33
  What's the why that makes me cry?
• 32:35
  The why and the why. When I talk to people and coach
• 32:37
  people through this, Brett, it always ends.
• 32:40
  We go from the bar stories to stories you tell at parties, the
• 32:43
  games you play. But if I go with you long
• 32:46
  enough, especially with these AI processes that ask you about 20
• 32:49
  questions, we're going to get to an emotion.
• 32:53
  And that's your Dharma. And it's different for
• 32:55
  everybody. It's love at the core, but for
• 32:57
  some people it might be uplifting orphans in Africa.
• 33:02
  For some people, it might be literally teaching handicapped
• 33:05
  children how to ski. Like we're all given these
• 33:08
  beautiful gifts. I know what your gift is.
• 33:11
  We're we're doing it right now. And my Dharma is literally
• 33:13
  waking people up around money so they can become better givers.
• 33:17
  That's it. But but it's a whole structure.
• 33:19
  So once I can get you to actually get, which I call the
• 33:22
  four dimensions of wealth and the way I define them, Brett is
• 33:25
  the four. PS So there is your purpose
• 33:29
  wealth, which is your connection not only to your legacy, but
• 33:32
  actually the connection to like call it your, your deep rooted
• 33:35
  spiritual path. What what are you uniquely here
• 33:38
  to do? Maybe it's just to be a great
• 33:40
  father. It doesn't have to be this epic
• 33:42
  thing. That's right.
• 33:43
  It could just be I want to be a great I want to be a great
• 33:45
  leader in my church or my temple like.
• 33:47
  This is very In Search for Meaning by Victor Frankel.
• 33:50
  What's that? Like let's just get connected to
• 33:52
  that, that P which is which is your purpose.
• 33:55
  The second P is your people wealth.
• 33:57
  What is your relationship with people?
• 34:00
  Let's start with yourself. What's your relationship with
• 34:03
  yourself? What's your relationship with
• 34:05
  your wife, your spouse, your kids, your people wealth and
• 34:08
  your ultimate community? Are you connected?
• 34:11
  Because like you said earlier, Brad, so many people are
• 34:13
  isolated right now. I think they're saying one out
• 34:15
  of every three people right now. This is I think comes from your
• 34:18
  friend Lincoln do not have a circle of friends.
• 34:22
  So they're using AI more and more, which you and I both agree
• 34:25
  does not have a soul. It's it's substitutes us.
• 34:29
  The third one is presence wealth.
• 34:32
  Are you living in your head? And we have all these phones and
• 34:34
  all this stuff constantly stimulating us.
• 34:37
  So really, presence wealth is your connection to time.
• 34:40
  It's your relationship with time.
• 34:42
  It's not time. A lot of people say work less or
• 34:44
  work more. Da da, da, This actually is not
• 34:47
  about how you manage your time. It's your connection and your
• 34:50
  relationship with time. Like right now, Brett, as I'm
• 34:53
  with you, there's nothing going on in my body or my brain except
• 34:58
  this conversation with you that's taken me many, many ears.
• 35:02
  Talk to what's next. What's the audience think like
• 35:05
  just being here now. And the last one that people
• 35:09
  don't talk about, right, is play wealth.
• 35:11
  That's the last dimension of wealth.
• 35:13
  Play wealth is the connection to your joy, what makes you alive,
• 35:18
  joy and aliveness and ultimately your creativity.
• 35:20
  The Rick Rubin thing, so many of us, we become workaholics or
• 35:24
  we're driving so hard to one day be happy, to make the money, to
• 35:27
  one day be happy or one day find the girl or one day do this.
• 35:32
  When really as humans, what makes us not AI is that creative
• 35:37
  spark. So if your joy so I used play
• 35:42
  wealth with people like play wealth.
• 35:43
  That's so risky. He must be talking about Burning
• 35:46
  Man. No, Yes, I happen to like
• 35:48
  Burning Man, but that's not what I'm talking about.
• 35:50
  Play wealth is for you, Brad. I can tell you some of your play
• 35:53
  wealth when you host a dinner party and you get all creative
• 35:58
  and I know you've thought about not only a great guest, you
• 36:00
  curate who you're going to invite.
• 36:03
  You have an idea. You don't try to force the
• 36:04
  conversation, but you bring great minds together.
• 36:07
  You kind of like tee up a a question that is part of your
• 36:11
  play wealth, which the value for you, it's creativity of like
• 36:15
  having these great conversations and it's part of your joy and
• 36:18
  aliveness of bringing people together and curating them to
• 36:21
  come up with new ideas and new movements that can lift humanity
• 36:24
  up. So it's actually a spiritual
• 36:26
  practice for you. And by the way, I say when I get
• 36:29
  invited to one of your dinner parties, I've actually said this
• 36:31
  to other people. It's like Albert Einstein
• 36:34
  inviting me over with some of the smartest people on the
• 36:36
  planet. And I just get to listen to some
• 36:39
  of the most incredible ideas. So this idea of play, and I used
• 36:42
  play to be a little provocative. We need to play more, but what
• 36:45
  we really need to do in that play, it's not hideonistic play.
• 36:48
  It's play because the more you are connected to your joy and
• 36:51
  aliveness, the more you can be that creative human being, which
• 36:54
  once again brings you back to your spiritual practice because
• 36:57
  being creative is what uniquely makes us human.
• 37:00
  It's going to make us different than the AI.
• 37:02
  I've been telling my kids if they, as they're both in college
• 37:06
  right now, the thing you can do most is connect with humans and
• 37:10
  notice your creativity. In the last week, Brett, I've
• 37:13
  painted a painting with my wife. I mean, it's been so much fun.
• 37:15
  Literally, we took a canvas and it's gorgeous.
• 37:17
  But I think, and we're both nervous, like, can we paint?
• 37:20
  And I thought about Rick Rubin, like letting go and being
• 37:22
  present as a spiritual practice and not being connected to
• 37:25
  whether it was good or bad. I've written ATV series and I've
• 37:28
  written a song that I'm going to perform this weekend.
• 37:31
  This is in one week. This is one week I'm using AI.
• 37:34
  I'm dancing with AI. But the point is like, once you
• 37:38
  know, actually the, the, the why, that makes you cry in the
• 37:41
  four dimensions. Here's the fun part I could not
• 37:43
  do before. And now I can.
• 37:46
  Then I say, OK, this is the life I want to live.
• 37:49
  And then I use, I borrow from Cameron Harold and say, don't
• 37:52
  take me 20 years from now. Like it's so hard to say what
• 37:55
  you want in 20 years from now. I don't want to be worth 20
• 37:56
  million when I'm this age. Let's just go 36 months.
• 38:00
  Let's just go three years and from where you're at now, maybe
• 38:03
  you're happy now with where you're at.
• 38:04
  But if you could say, where are you at now?
• 38:06
  Which is your current burn rate, how much it costs to live a life
• 38:09
  here? Now you start to look in the
• 38:10
  four dimensions of wealth of the four PS and say, God, I'd love
• 38:13
  to go. For me, I actually wanted a chef
• 38:16
  to bring food to my house, which I have now done.
• 38:18
  And I want to go to Costa Rica with my wife and spend two
• 38:21
  months there. And I have a whole vision.
• 38:23
  Then you ask the AI once you're out this 36 month vision plan
• 38:26
  for your life. I wake up in the morning, I hold
• 38:29
  my wifes hand, I'm drinking matcha at 11:00.
• 38:32
  My first phone call with my team.
• 38:33
  Like I could go on and on. I wrote this beautiful me
• 38:36
  working with ChatGPT not to tell me what to do, but as my
• 38:40
  collaborator, it gave me 3 or 4 new ideas.
• 38:43
  I never thought of Brett that I'm so excited about.
• 38:45
  I now have food service because of this.
• 38:47
  We have a private physical trainer that was described to
• 38:50
  me. I'm like, yeah, I want that.
• 38:52
  Like my relationship with my wife, it was just beautiful.
• 38:55
  So then the next question becomes, well, how much is that
• 38:58
  going to cost? Not a net worth because net
• 39:01
  worth to me is irrelevant. Net worth is a vanity number.
• 39:04
  So really. OK, So what would it cost to
• 39:06
  live this life? If this is my life, what would
• 39:09
  it cost on the annual basis to live that life?
• 39:12
  And here's the answer. Because I've now done this for
• 39:13
  hundreds of people. Brett, it's less than you think.
• 39:17
  So we we way overshoot because we don't know.
• 39:19
  So if you're in fear and you don't know, you just way
• 39:21
  overshoot. Now I want to be worth 10
• 39:23
  million. I want to be worth 100 million.
• 39:24
  I mean, you're worth 100 million.
• 39:26
  You want to be worth 200 million.
• 39:27
  We keep overshooting. But once you actually know the
• 39:30
  life you want to live and it changes, this is just 36 months.
• 39:34
  We're going to reassess this. But once you know that, then all
• 39:36
  I simply have to do, let's just say the number was $500,000
• 39:40
  would be like the most incredible life ever.
• 39:43
  You have to travel with your kids, all the memories, all the
• 39:45
  emotional anchors that make you super happy.
• 39:49
  Well, this is cool. So we get to 500,000 bucks.
• 39:51
  It was less than you thought. Great.
• 39:53
  How much do you make, which I call your active income.
• 39:55
  How much do you make in your business?
• 39:58
  How much you can you take home? What kind of investments do you
• 40:01
  have that that actually produce cash flow?
• 40:03
  I'm really, really big as a real estate guy into creating cash
• 40:07
  flow. And then between your active
• 40:10
  income, which is your job, and your passive income, where are
• 40:13
  you now? And for some people, they're
• 40:17
  already for billionaires. Oh, I'm already there.
• 40:20
  I've been chasing something I don't even need because I didn't
• 40:22
  know what I wanted. And then for some people,
• 40:25
  they're a little shy. They're you know what?
• 40:26
  I'm at 300,000 now, but now I have a target to shoot for.
• 40:31
  Cool. I need $200,000 more, which
• 40:34
  takes me to more AI. And this is the next day 2 of my
• 40:37
  course, which is I actually build a financial plan with AI.
• 40:41
  And by the way, it feels like playing the funnest video game
• 40:43
  you've ever played for sure. It's got all these awards, but
• 40:45
  literally once you start to put in your burn raise, what you're
• 40:48
  making today, your active income, your passive income,
• 40:51
  your liquidity, you start talking about your investments.
• 40:54
  I literally can tell you it not exactly exactly where you're at
• 40:58
  and where you need to go. So the AI will actually show you
• 41:00
  the A you're 41% of the way to $500,000.
• 41:04
  Here's where you're really good. You have a lot of cash, maybe
• 41:07
  too much cash. It starts to give you the five
• 41:10
  things that you can do, advise you of how you want to get to
• 41:13
  that dream of 500,000 from 300,000.
• 41:16
  It will just tell you how to do it in a framework that I call
• 41:19
  the wealth pyramid. That's cool.
• 41:20
  And the wealth pyramid is really cool.
• 41:22
  It's a really simple relationship, but it's, it's
• 41:25
  just a simple relationship here. How much cash do you have?
• 41:29
  How much to how much do you have about incoming and passive
• 41:31
  income? And then how much of your
• 41:33
  investments don't make any income and won't for the next?
• 41:36
  The more I call them speculative or non, they don't produce
• 41:40
  income regularly, which is fine by the way.
• 41:43
  It just depends where you're at in life.
• 41:44
  I mean, you and I both love investing in some venture
• 41:47
  capital and there's nothing wrong with that.
• 41:49
  But if you know that your goal is to get to $500,000 and you're
• 41:54
  not there yet, then maybe put a little more emphasis on cash
• 41:58
  flowing assets because to get you that 500,000.
• 42:01
  So it gives you some like a road map and guidance.
• 42:04
  And here's the cool part, Brett. If you know that's your number
• 42:06
  for now, then you know what winning is.
• 42:11
  For the first time in your life, you know what winning is, where
• 42:13
  you can just relax. Right.
• 42:16
  Especially there's lots of, of course there's, you know,
• 42:17
  there's asset protection and there's taxation.
• 42:20
  I do all these things in my courses.
• 42:22
  But let's get to your number first before we start getting
• 42:24
  really complicated on estate planning and all that stuff.
• 42:27
  And so winning at first might be my, my income that I earned
• 42:32
  through my job and my passive income.
• 42:33
  But ultimate winning is I don't need my job anymore.
• 42:37
  My passive income covers my dream number, right?
• 42:41
  And that is truly a fulfilling error.
• 42:43
  And what is the right number? The answer is what is the right
• 42:47
  number for you? Right, right.
• 42:49
  So no more of this framework. I've got to get to some status,
• 42:52
  some things, some that it's like once we once we have that
• 42:55
  targeted and then every time you start making money and you're
• 42:58
  getting closer, 'cause my little wealth pyramid in AI, it's real
• 43:01
  time. It keeps a progress chart and
• 43:04
  congratulates you and gives you coins and awards and everything.
• 43:07
  Then you get to emotionally anchor like, Oh my God, I'm
• 43:09
  getting really close. I've always wanted to take my
• 43:12
  kids to Japan and do it first class.
• 43:14
  Like how cool if I could fly first class and eat at the best
• 43:17
  restaurants and spend that quality of time with my wife and
• 43:20
  show my kids, which I got to do, by the way, which was one of my
• 43:23
  absolute favorite trips with my kids.
• 43:25
  But like that is means so much more to me.
• 43:28
  And I'd like, listen, you know, I like cars.
• 43:30
  I like Porsches, They're great. And that trip to Japan with my
• 43:34
  kids was rad. So I know that I'm making
• 43:37
  progress in the wealth pyramid that I, I always say take time
• 43:41
  and a thank God because they theoretically Judaism, not
• 43:45
  theoretically and Judaism would say it's not even your money,
• 43:48
  it's Hashem money. You've just just be grateful
• 43:52
  because whatever your lot in life is big or small is a gift
• 43:55
  from a higher power and you don't even own it.
• 43:58
  You know what I mean? This is can be taken from you
• 44:00
  like that and we both know that. So then you get to be in
• 44:02
  gratitude and you get to emotionally anchor.
• 44:05
  So now when you're working every day, you have a framework for A,
• 44:08
  what winning is B more purpose. C conjure of gratitude because
• 44:13
  you know the things in your mind that matter to you most amongst
• 44:16
  the four dimensions of wealth. And so AI has changed things.
• 44:20
  I can tell you my financial planners have never spoken to me
• 44:24
  about money, about planning money in this kind of format and
• 44:29
  what's cool about this bread in my mind, I mean.
• 44:31
  They're supposed to, but. But yeah, most of them don't.
• 44:33
  They don't. They're not taking it with
• 44:34
  what's the why that makes you cry?
• 44:36
  Or really, how do you get there? As a matter of fact, you know
• 44:38
  quite a few of them will just be trying to sell you the next
• 44:41
  product. The the the off the shelf it's.
• 44:44
  Like more consumption? Which I love I'm I'm a big
• 44:47
  alternative investments guy as a real estate guy.
• 44:49
  And that's also a lot of empowerment of actually knowing
• 44:52
  a lot of people. I've learned Brett, which is
• 44:54
  shocking. A lot of wealthy people don't
• 44:57
  really know how their portfolio is actually performing.
• 44:59
  They have this person over there in New York or somewhere in a
• 45:01
  very beautiful marble office. And I say, well, what are you
• 45:04
  doing? What's your like, what's your,
• 45:07
  what's your performance like on your portfolio?
• 45:09
  I'm guessing you know, 'cause you're not the normal person.
• 45:12
  You're very organized and you, you think that way.
• 45:15
  Most people don't even know what they're earning or how well
• 45:19
  they're, how well their stockbrokers doing for them.
• 45:22
  Or if it's a down, they don't even understand if I'll say, how
• 45:25
  did you do last year? How have you done?
• 45:27
  How long have you been with this stockbroker for?
• 45:29
  And they'll say nine years, what have you done inception a day
• 45:32
  like what's he done for you? His only his only real job for
• 45:34
  you is to make you money on the money that you have so you can
• 45:37
  be free. I promise you, Brett, if you ask
• 45:40
  9 out of 10 people those two questions about performance,
• 45:44
  they do not know and they certainly don't know overall,
• 45:47
  which keeps you in that fear and that scarcity.
• 45:49
  And and Brett, if I can do full circle and I'll let you talk.
• 45:52
  I'm sorry, you can tell. Him a little I'm a.
• 45:53
  Little passionate about this, I'm riffing, but what's the sole
• 45:56
  journey? So why?
• 45:57
  So why does this matter from a soul perspective?
• 46:01
  And you think about it, it's like, how do we go on this
• 46:03
  journey of being maybe feeling scarce, unsafe, unclear as to
• 46:10
  what winning is financially. So again, I I'll give next year
• 46:14
  when I have more time. You know, you always have these
• 46:17
  reasons of why we can't give more.
• 46:19
  So how do we go from that to clarity?
• 46:21
  Now I'm clear, I know my winning numbers.
• 46:23
  I'm celebrating my wins. I'm not waiting to get
• 46:25
  somewhere. I'm celebrating my wins and as I
• 46:28
  celebrate my wins, every quarter I check in 'cause I'm now
• 46:32
  becoming a good manifester. So it's like, oh, I did that
• 46:35
  one. I got to 50%.
• 46:37
  I got that trip to Japan bland. What else could I create?
• 46:40
  What else would be amazing? And I, I find as I get older,
• 46:44
  for me and for both of us, it becomes a lot about giving,
• 46:47
  which takes me to the third part.
• 46:49
  Because once you feel safe and abundant, truly in a proper
• 46:53
  spiritual definition of abundant thought what it looks like to
• 46:57
  the outside, but you are, you know, you get that what God is
• 47:01
  giving you and your whatever your spirit is is more than
• 47:04
  enough. You're overflowing, you're safe
• 47:07
  and you're clear. Now you get to really go to the
• 47:09
  next step, which is you get to be a great servant leader and
• 47:13
  impact king manifester. The thing that's most
• 47:18
  interesting to me at this point in my life is how much more if I
• 47:21
  make money, can I give away? I'd like to give away for every
• 47:24
  dollar I make. My thought is to give give away
• 47:27
  a dollar for anything going forward at this point.
• 47:29
  That's all. And not because I'm the
• 47:30
  wealthiest person. There's so many people richer
• 47:32
  than me. Like if I was just about like,
• 47:34
  is this enough? I could say, Oh my God, well,
• 47:37
  this person has more money than me and this person has more
• 47:39
  money than me. And this person has three
• 47:40
  houses, and this person I. Mean there's there's always
• 47:43
  someone that has more money. It doesn't stop.
• 47:45
  There's no, there's no end to, you know, comparison as the
• 47:48
  thief of joy. There's no end to the comparison
• 47:50
  again. And you know, they, they, the
• 47:52
  highest level of, of this is kind of the where we meet, we're
• 47:55
  fulfilling air and your and your whole philosophy meets is once
• 48:01
  you relax and you feel safe and you become this giver of
• 48:04
  currency and you're flowing. It's actually a deeply spiritual
• 48:08
  practice because now you're a giver.
• 48:11
  And I really think at our solar core, if you want to find that
• 48:13
  quietness and that peace, empathy and love for others is
• 48:19
  our, is how we're hardwired as humans.
• 48:21
  And that's what makes us different from the AI.
• 48:24
  It's the difference from the simulation of artificial
• 48:28
  intelligence versus HI, human intelligence and then ultimately
• 48:33
  divine intelligence because here's what they say in the
• 48:36
  Torah, even in the Bible, you go back to Mahmadis.
• 48:39
  Mahmadis basically says, you know, this relationship between
• 48:43
  receiver and giver of humans is a relationship that I've
• 48:47
  created, meaning God's created. We're not all supposed to be
• 48:51
  equal. This is a spiritual practice.
• 48:53
  Giving and receiving on both sides is an energetic spiritual
• 48:58
  practice. And guess who gets the most out
• 49:00
  of it according to God? The giver.
• 49:02
  The giver and this idea of when they say the expression give
• 49:07
  till it hurts like that edge. It's one thing if you and I were
• 49:10
  just asked right now to give $100 to something, we both would
• 49:15
  like, you know, all the time, like easy, easy thing.
• 49:18
  It's the hard one sometimes. Like when you hit your edge,
• 49:20
  you're like, oh, I'm a little uncomfortable.
• 49:23
  It like, and I can tell you with a couple of things recently I've
• 49:26
  gotten really uncomfortable. And that's where the spiritual
• 49:29
  work, they say is like not to do things that are irresponsible to
• 49:32
  your family, but actually get to that point.
• 49:35
  Because when you get to eat, when you hit your edge of what
• 49:38
  you're wanting to do or what you're doing, you've been a very
• 49:40
  generous philanthropist. But when you get to that point,
• 49:43
  what you're basically saying is I have a my relationship with
• 49:47
  money. I trust money, money.
• 49:50
  Trust me, I know I can make more of it.
• 49:53
  And I also know that God always provides.
• 49:56
  So you're actually doing this spiritual affirmation, a very
• 50:00
  powerful affirmation. I have enough.
• 50:02
  I live in abundance and I have faith in myself and in God that
• 50:08
  I can always make more. So if you walk around as a human
• 50:11
  and think about this bread, if you walk around as a human and
• 50:13
  you feel that abundant inside yourself and you really believe
• 50:17
  all this, think about if humanity could take this on at
• 50:21
  different levels. And I understand once again, if
• 50:23
  you don't have money, this is not a lecture you get to play
• 50:26
  with. But even if you had some basic
• 50:28
  levels of subsistence to hire and imagine the wealthy people,
• 50:32
  how quickly would this world change?
• 50:34
  Because now we're focusing on giving.
• 50:36
  It almost becomes as joyful to give as it is to receive, which
• 50:41
  is starting to become not starting is my experience at
• 50:44
  this point. Maybe I I probably have some
• 50:45
  more work to do, but like, that's the exact point of how
• 50:48
  we're going to solve this. Yeah.
• 50:50
  This is how love is going to conquer fear.
• 50:52
  For sure, yeah, you're you you are the embodiment of love
• 50:55
  conquering fear. And now you've set this program,
• 50:58
  you know, in action. And I love what you're saying
• 51:01
  about using AII mean I use AI all the time and and it's it's
• 51:05
  amazing. I mean it's like the the the
• 51:07
  most amazing creative brainstorming partner, you know,
• 51:11
  the Co creation. My collaboration partner.
• 51:13
  Is amazing because because you know our brains cannot hold all
• 51:18
  of the content that humanity has ever produced.
• 51:22
  Yeah but the AI system can and so you know for people that are
• 51:26
  intimidated by using chachi PT or clawed and think Oh my gosh,
• 51:31
  you know this is a very technical system.
• 51:35
  Look it speaks in English and it not just speaks in English, but
• 51:40
  it's it's pulled in all the content in Japanese Russian you
• 51:44
  name it every language in the world you know Hebrew and made
• 51:49
  it consumable in English. You know so so like you know
• 51:53
  some of the mind blowing use cases you know like you're in
• 51:57
  Japan and you're trying to find a restaurant and you want it to
• 52:01
  analyze the native speaker Japanese reviews to tell you in
• 52:06
  English for your dietary choices.
• 52:09
  Like what is the best There's just like all these mind blowing
• 52:12
  moments that I've had with it. So you know I'm not dystopian
• 52:17
  about AI. What what is really important is
• 52:21
  how we use it and that's all that's been all technology since
• 52:25
  the discovery of fire. You know going back to to to
• 52:30
  just I want people to hear this story because it took a lot of
• 52:35
  work to get to this to this point of being smart with money.
• 52:41
  You know, I guess what I would say are being, you know, really
• 52:44
  focused on development of the soul and using money as energy.
• 52:49
  And one of the things that happened to me early on, even
• 52:52
  though if you know, this story is I say happened to me, I mean,
• 52:56
  it was something I put in in motion is, you know, Deborah and
• 52:59
  I have been married, you know, 29 years.
• 53:01
  I know you and Janet have been married for a long time as well.
• 53:04
  I definitely married my soul mate also.
• 53:07
  And when I graduated from UT Austin, that's where we met.
• 53:12
  Both graduate from UT. You know, I was very programmed
• 53:18
  on Car and Driver magazine and the Nissan ZX Twin turbo 303.
• 53:25
  100 I love that car. Yeah, it was beautiful car, but
• 53:29
  there's no way I was financially ready for it.
• 53:31
  And I'd gotten the the the dream job at Deloitte consulting this
• 53:35
  before I became an entrepreneur. And I think I was making, I
• 53:40
  don't know $35,000 a year or something like that, which was
• 53:42
  which which actually at that point.
• 53:45
  In time. Was was was a lot of money?
• 53:46
  I graduated in 1994 from from UT with my undergrad.
• 53:52
  I went later on to warden from MBA that was 97 and 99 and I
• 53:58
  wanted that car. And so we went to a car dealer
• 54:04
  and it took about 5 hours, which is the worst way.
• 54:08
  I was like starving by the end of it.
• 54:10
  The worst way, you know, they're like wearing me down.
• 54:13
  I ended up buying it and it consumed like most of our
• 54:21
  monthly income. Like it was crazy.
• 54:24
  And within five months, I was like, Deborah, I've got to get
• 54:29
  out of this thing. This is making me miserable.
• 54:30
  Like, you know, yeah, it was fun driving it the first couple of
• 54:33
  times. It's totally making me
• 54:34
  miserable, Right. And and I found AUT student that
• 54:40
  came from the Middle East and had just tons of money.
• 54:44
  His parents were just giving him tons of money every month.
• 54:46
  And he bought it from me for the price that I owed.
• 54:50
  Perfect, SO. I got out of it and from that
• 54:53
  point on, I remembered what my grant you, you invoked your
• 54:57
  grandfather earlier. What my grandfather taught me.
• 54:59
  My grandfather was a famous mathematics professor at UT.
• 55:02
  It was his whole career. He grew up during the Great
• 55:05
  Depression and he basically saved so much that he became the
• 55:14
  multimillionaire. And he would show me stacks of
• 55:20
  hundreds and he would show it to me when I was really young.
• 55:25
  And this is going to sound like like a weird programming, but
• 55:28
  it's actually a beautiful ending.
• 55:30
  And he would say, you know, what is this?
• 55:33
  And I'd say, well, it's it's clearly money.
• 55:36
  And he would be like, well, you know, guess again.
• 55:41
  And he eventually would tell me, this is freedom.
• 55:45
  This is freedom to to do what you want in life.
• 55:49
  And then he would ask me what the most important thing was
• 55:54
  and, you know, as a young kid and I would be like, what are
• 55:56
  you going to tell me? It's money?
• 55:59
  And he said, no, this again, I was like, it's, you know, it's
• 56:03
  got to be, you know, it's got to be family.
• 56:07
  He'd be like, no, it's not family.
• 56:10
  He'd he'd be like, it's health. Because without your health, you
• 56:15
  can't take care of your family and you can't use your money to
• 56:22
  enjoy experiences. And, you know, that is kind of
• 56:25
  like the embodiment, I think, of what fulfilling air is all
• 56:28
  about, you know? But he taught me that so early
• 56:31
  on. They kind of said there's
• 56:33
  actually there's three things. Your health is the core.
• 56:35
  If you have your health and you get lucky, you can actually
• 56:38
  create wealth, which is money. But then there's actually what's
• 56:42
  after Wealth is prosperity, right?
• 56:44
  And prosperity is beyond money. Prosperity is being a
• 56:47
  fulfillionaire. Prosperity is when you truly are
• 56:49
  aligned, your spirit, mind, community like you truly are
• 56:53
  abundant and always that abundance can exist as a human.
• 56:57
  So, you know, I've been walking, you know, the spiritual path for
• 57:00
  for for a long time on this topic.
• 57:02
  Like, yeah, I remember with Vedanta, you know, Deborah and I
• 57:06
  studied Vedanta, which is an ancient Indian philosophy.
• 57:11
  It really preceded a lot of the world's religions.
• 57:14
  You know, the Vedas came up with in the Himalayas.
• 57:17
  And it was, it was all about meditating on what is the actual
• 57:22
  path to happiness. And I went to study it in India
• 57:28
  with Samaji Partha Sarathi. If you if you haven't read his
• 57:31
  books, they're they're really, really amazing.
• 57:35
  His one on governing business and relationships is extremely
• 57:40
  accessible. I think it's the best book about
• 57:42
  actually. 3/4 of the way through it's on my night stand because
• 57:44
  of you right now. Oh cool.
• 57:45
  OK, good, good, good. Yeah.
• 57:47
  So one of the principles there is that you will always feel
• 57:53
  wealthy if you spend less than you make, you know, and in this
• 57:59
  case, significantly less. And so since that Nissan, you
• 58:02
  know, 300 and CX story from that point on, and you know, it's,
• 58:08
  it's funny because I had this material desire, Deborah habit.
• 58:11
  She's actually never had a material desire.
• 58:14
  She, she's all about experiences.
• 58:17
  You know, she, she doesn't care at all about what her net worth
• 58:20
  is. It's funny because I tell her
• 58:24
  every year, I'm totally transparent about all finances.
• 58:26
  You know, it's a true partnership.
• 58:28
  We make all of our investments together and then she just
• 58:31
  completely forgets the number. By the way, Jared does the same
• 58:34
  thing. I just I try to quarterly update
• 58:36
  my wife and. Yeah, which is, which is, which
• 58:40
  actually is great. You know, my wife is really
• 58:42
  flowing with, with happiness and, you know, doing, doing what
• 58:47
  she wants to do. You know, she just got back from
• 58:49
  a three-week trip in Patagonia, you know, hiking all, all
• 58:53
  around, just having, having the time of her life.
• 58:56
  And that makes me so happy. And so, and, you know, we do
• 59:01
  lots of trips together, obviously, but you know, with,
• 59:06
  with, you know, the net worth path.
• 59:10
  It's, it's, it's not, it's not the, it's not the path.
• 59:13
  The path is about, you know, really having the money that you
• 59:19
  need to have the experiences you want.
• 59:21
  And ever since that, that that brush with, you know, truly
• 59:25
  feeling impoverished in my own way by being owned by this car
• 59:31
  that I didn't need and getting out of it really quickly from
• 59:37
  that point on, we didn't buy anything in this unless we could
• 59:40
  outright buy it. Now that makes me very unusual
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  and that I don't like to carry debt.
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  But I also get that from my grandfather who grew up during
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  the Great Depression, you know, and he saw like how much that
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  could ruin the family. You know, his his dad deserted
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  the family. He was an alcoholic.
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  And as a result, like left my grandfather's, the oldest child
• 1:00:07
  with his mom, my great grandmother to raise the family
• 1:00:11
  and that put him on this path. Path of eventually, you know,
• 1:00:15
  going a very safe career route with, with, with UT Austin being
• 1:00:19
  a professor for the rest of his life.
• 1:00:21
  I mean, he was, he was happy that I took, you know, kind of
• 1:00:24
  the more entrepreneurial route later on, but he didn't feel
• 1:00:30
  safe or called to do that. I don't think he was an
• 1:00:32
  entrepreneur persona, frankly, he was like a teacher persona.
• 1:00:35
  My dad was entrepreneur persona and and pursued that and I got
• 1:00:39
  part of that from from my dad and my mom.
• 1:00:41
  But I'm curious, like for you with the billionaire, like what
• 1:00:45
  were the moments in your background that got you to
• 1:00:48
  realize that this is what it's all about?
• 1:00:52
  You know, do you have a do you have the Nissan 300Z store or
• 1:00:55
  was it, or was it something else?
• 1:00:57
  Where you kind of kind of got to this point of.
• 1:01:00
  Well, two things A. Holistic development.
• 1:01:03
  Yeah, yeah. So I'm going to tell you, I
• 1:01:05
  mean, first of all, the the on the Nissan side, it was actually
• 1:01:07
  that BMW. It was the moment that BMW is
• 1:01:09
  the word to me. That was the one word.
• 1:01:11
  And I realized. So you really couldn't afford
• 1:01:12
  it? I was, well, I was expecting joy
• 1:01:14
  from this car and I couldn't believe how stressed I was.
• 1:01:17
  I couldn't believe as I was as my first years that my business
• 1:01:20
  was starting to make a lot of money that I was going through
• 1:01:23
  depression, really bad depression and actually the
• 1:01:26
  worst depression of my life. Or the two or three years I
• 1:01:29
  started earning the most money. I'd go to the office, I'd shut
• 1:01:31
  my door and I'd cry and then like carry on with business.
• 1:01:36
  And there was, there was reasons for it.
• 1:01:38
  There was other things going on, but the big dynamic really was
• 1:01:43
  just not feeling safe, just not feeling really safe or clear
• 1:01:47
  that it's like I spent 15 years because I, I didn't make money
• 1:01:50
  early in life. I wasn't like a, I had like 10
• 1:01:53
  careers, things that failed. I tried dot coms that failed.
• 1:01:57
  And so I really, really worked hard.
• 1:01:58
  And I think I was so obsessed with working hard to one day get
• 1:02:02
  to that goal that I never really thought about what the goal was
• 1:02:07
  actually going to feel like or be like or mean.
• 1:02:09
  And I think the depression part of the, the, the reason for the
• 1:02:13
  depression was just like literally being like mapless and
• 1:02:17
  rudderless, which made me to ask the question, why make money?
• 1:02:22
  What's it about? Now I get to pay the bills and
• 1:02:24
  not fight with my wife. But that was great because in
• 1:02:26
  the early days we'd fight about, she'd go to Whole Foods and buy
• 1:02:29
  organic diapers and we'd get into arguments because I, we
• 1:02:31
  were just making, just making it through.
• 1:02:34
  So I know what it's like to be very stressed and very scarce
• 1:02:37
  around money. But I think it kind of led me on
• 1:02:41
  a, on a, on a larger journey after that to like, OK, how much
• 1:02:44
  is enough? And by the way, Brett, I'm going
• 1:02:45
  to be like, really like candid with you.
• 1:02:48
  It never ends. This ego never ends.
• 1:02:52
  I still as as comfortable as I think I've become over 25 years
• 1:02:57
  of researching the topic, putting together estate planning
• 1:03:00
  and taxation and family trust. There's still a part of me that
• 1:03:05
  has moments that like, is it enough?
• 1:03:08
  So there's I mean, and here's how the headlines like this week
• 1:03:10
  gold went down. OK, this is not worth less.
• 1:03:13
  Do I have enough of this? What if AI hacks my Wells Fargo?
• 1:03:18
  I thought I was safe. These are the thoughts that
• 1:03:20
  still enter my mind. I thought I was safe with my
• 1:03:22
  money, but my money's at Wells Fargo.
• 1:03:24
  Is it safe at Wells Fargo? If these AI agents can do all
• 1:03:28
  these fun stuff, like, who says they're not going to outsmart
• 1:03:30
  our institutions soon? And the point is that neuroses
• 1:03:35
  will never stop. Judaism has an aim for you.
• 1:03:37
  You know, we talked about this in Judaism, this idea of like
• 1:03:40
  the animal soul and your higher instincts, like your spiritual
• 1:03:43
  instincts versus the animal soul.
• 1:03:46
  And it's actually the core tenet of Judaism.
• 1:03:48
  Do do you know about this? I don't.
• 1:03:49
  Yeah, so. This is a core tenet of Judaism
• 1:03:51
  that really what we deal with all of our life.
• 1:03:54
  It's kind of very different. Like you're always going to have
• 1:03:57
  this animal soul. The animal soul wants what any
• 1:04:00
  animal soul would want. I'm hungry, I want money.
• 1:04:04
  I want to find that woman who wants to have sex with me.
• 1:04:06
  It's like everything. Oh, I want this.
• 1:04:07
  It's like what you need now. It's the indulgences that you
• 1:04:10
  need to be satisfied now. The cravings, the indulgences,
• 1:04:13
  the wants. That's the animal soul.
• 1:04:16
  At the same time, you have your spiritual soul, which knows like
• 1:04:19
  that is looking to like. I really want to like.
• 1:04:22
  I want to be the best person I can be.
• 1:04:24
  I'd like to be the light upon nations.
• 1:04:25
  I'd like to give more. I'd like to be more.
• 1:04:28
  I'd like to be a better husband, better father, a better person
• 1:04:31
  on this planet. Like I it's your higher
• 1:04:33
  instincts. And Judaism says you're never
• 1:04:38
  gonna get rid of the animal soul to the last breath you take.
• 1:04:42
  So the version, some people call it being a Sinner.
• 1:04:45
  You can call this being a Sinner, whatever.
• 1:04:47
  It's actually just it's fear, it's indulgence, it's
• 1:04:50
  everything. And all Judaism says is if you
• 1:04:53
  study your spiritual practices, of course, in Judaism, study the
• 1:04:55
  Torah, which is the half the Bible.
• 1:04:58
  But whatever your practice is, the goal is, is not to try to
• 1:05:01
  get rid of this. It's to quiet it down so that
• 1:05:05
  you can use, you can spend more time in your spiritual journey
• 1:05:08
  using your your higher spiritual instincts.
• 1:05:11
  So when given a choice of A or B, do I have that drink?
• 1:05:15
  Do I go down this path instead of chasing the shiny things?
• 1:05:17
  You continue to grow and the final result is you'll never be
• 1:05:23
  perfect. Every now and then, your animal
• 1:05:26
  soul's going to win and that animal soul's never going to
• 1:05:28
  shut up. So when I'm having those
• 1:05:30
  thoughts of, Oh my God, gold is down or is Wells Fargo going to
• 1:05:34
  get destroyed by these new AI agents?
• 1:05:37
  The classic wisdom would be don't try to get rid of those
• 1:05:40
  thoughts. You're not going to meditate
• 1:05:41
  your way through those thoughts. Calm them down so that you can
• 1:05:46
  be more of a witness. Say, oh, that was an interesting
• 1:05:50
  thought, right? So even being a Fulfillinger is
• 1:05:52
  not, it's not a status that you get to.
• 1:05:55
  It's a practice, right? Even for me now, Brad, I was
• 1:05:58
  just telling you when we, when we took a break, like I
• 1:06:02
  definitely have my moments right now as I'm going into my second
• 1:06:04
  summit of being an empty nester and doing this more full time.
• 1:06:08
  Fulfillinger is not a business plan.
• 1:06:10
  It's the first time in my life since college or this isn't like
• 1:06:15
  I don't have funnels to make money.
• 1:06:17
  I'm not trying to necessarily convert people.
• 1:06:19
  I don't have AI, don't have a goal.
• 1:06:22
  I have a mission. This.
• 1:06:24
  Is where I'm at with love conquers here you and I are at
• 1:06:26
  the same place. And it can be uncomfortable.
• 1:06:30
  It can really be uncomfortable because I know like real
• 1:06:32
  estate's in a cycle that will very soon.
• 1:06:35
  Like, I know if I just stuck to the skill that's I've been doing
• 1:06:37
  for 20 years, I could accumulate more money.
• 1:06:42
  And that sounds like very safe and fun.
• 1:06:43
  Maybe there's, there's always things, you know, I can do.
• 1:06:46
  Maybe I buy a new house, you know, like on and on and on.
• 1:06:49
  And that's the balance, I think between the, the, I love that
• 1:06:53
  idea of like, don't try to get rid of this.
• 1:06:56
  Just quiet it down and don't let it run you.
• 1:06:58
  And if you can get stronger and stronger on this side, you're
• 1:07:01
  doing really, really well. But to your last breath, don't
• 1:07:04
  fight it. Well, to my, to my point about
• 1:07:06
  Vedanta, like it is, it is a spiritual route.
• 1:07:10
  I mean, the Dao Da Ching is to the Dao Da Ching.
• 1:07:12
  You were talking about God being a provider.
• 1:07:14
  You know, the, the Dao Da Ching calls up the Dao and there's a
• 1:07:18
  great, there's a great verse in the Dao Da Ching, you know,
• 1:07:22
  which is ancient Chinese mysticism and, and, and deep,
• 1:07:26
  deep, a deep channeling from source.
• 1:07:30
  It's profound. It's, you'll see it in all the,
• 1:07:32
  all the spiritual traditions that when you walk the way,
• 1:07:36
  which is walk the way of the Dow, it becomes provider and you
• 1:07:41
  become a vessel, you know, and we're all vessels of the divine,
• 1:07:46
  whether we realize it or not. It's depending on how awake we
• 1:07:50
  are and whether we see those synchronicities in our life.
• 1:07:53
  But in in Vedanta, it does, it does educate you on the nature
• 1:07:58
  of mind, which is the same thing you would say as the animal
• 1:08:01
  soul. And Judaism, which is the nature
• 1:08:05
  of mind, is left ungoverned. It always worries about the
• 1:08:10
  past, has anxieties about the future.
• 1:08:12
  You completely miss the current moment.
• 1:08:15
  And you know, you, you have to, we, we are, we are under assault
• 1:08:21
  all the time with the level of programming we receive.
• 1:08:24
  And that level of programming is for other people who have this
• 1:08:29
  disease of just constant accumulation they're.
• 1:08:32
  Hard work for survival and the the history of humankind has
• 1:08:36
  been 1 of scarcity. So when you talk about abundance
• 1:08:39
  in the world of AIRGDP, more than doubling in the next 12
• 1:08:42
  months because of AI. Humans only know what it's like.
• 1:08:46
  If you don't catch that, you don't catch your food, you can
• 1:08:49
  go hungry and starve and die. You need to provide.
• 1:08:52
  So like having compassion for for humanity.
• 1:08:56
  We've been hardwired for survival, not hardwired for
• 1:08:58
  abundance, right? So we have some, you know, we
• 1:09:02
  have a lot of evolutionary hardwiring.
• 1:09:04
  That gives me some feeling of because it's so frustrating to
• 1:09:06
  watch, But I also have to be empathic and empathetic, I
• 1:09:11
  should say, for the world. And also I'm I'm feel like I'm
• 1:09:14
  doing it from a place where my right now, I'm sitting with you.
• 1:09:17
  My body is very comfortable. I'm talking to like one of my
• 1:09:21
  very best friends. Yeah.
• 1:09:23
  And there's like this feeling of like just safety and love, but
• 1:09:26
  that's like not like reality. And here on a Friday in the
• 1:09:29
  middle of the day chatting and not at a desk.
• 1:09:33
  And I was actually, I've been just one quick aside, like my
• 1:09:36
  conversation yesterday's. I adopted a kind of a kid seven
• 1:09:39
  years ago artificially Simon. He's like, I met him an
• 1:09:43
  orphanage in Uganda and right now he has a hernia and the
• 1:09:47
  surgery is $2000. But but I just took him through
• 1:09:52
  college so that he could start earning money on his own and he
• 1:09:56
  can't afford it. And so he's in pain and he keeps
• 1:10:00
  coming me for more. And what I'm realizing is that
• 1:10:02
  it's a hard moment because there's been seven years of
• 1:10:04
  supporting him. And it really was the, the, the
• 1:10:06
  the joy was always meant to be for me is getting, I've actually
• 1:10:10
  said this is the highest level of giving.
• 1:10:12
  And Ahmadis as well is teaching someone a skill so they don't
• 1:10:15
  have to ask anymore, which is back to the giver and receiver,
• 1:10:18
  the one that you don't have to. The receiver doesn't have to
• 1:10:20
  feel shame because they have they can stop asking because
• 1:10:23
  you've given them the skill or the dollars amount that they've
• 1:10:26
  learned on their own. That's actually the highest
• 1:10:28
  spiritual level of giving. So it was really killing me
• 1:10:31
  because I told them after graduation like I was done.
• 1:10:34
  I told him that five years ago he's going to help him through
• 1:10:37
  getting a degree in tourism. And that was it.
• 1:10:40
  And now I'm seeing him and he's and he keeps asking me for more
• 1:10:43
  and he's blaming the government, you know, and all these things
• 1:10:46
  that he can't break the cycle. And I'm really trying to do a
• 1:10:49
  little tough love. His dad called.
• 1:10:51
  I say, dad, you know what I'm saying?
• 1:10:52
  Like not real dad. He doesn't have that kind of
• 1:10:56
  like leader. And I'm being a little tough
• 1:10:57
  with him and saying, you know, I know you need this operation
• 1:11:01
  right now, so how are you going to figure that you now have a
• 1:11:03
  degree? I think it's not life or death.
• 1:11:06
  It's uncomfortable. It's like, and of course, he
• 1:11:08
  wanted to go to a private hospital, which is $2000.
• 1:11:10
  There is government programs that will do it for free.
• 1:11:13
  So I had a really hard conversation with him yesterday
• 1:11:15
  about one of the alternatives. Can you do right now between the
• 1:11:18
  government, other programs to get this solved?
• 1:11:21
  Like, how can we get you in a creative like place to solve
• 1:11:24
  these things? But it's really hard because you
• 1:11:26
  want to give to everybody. But I'm really, really like, my
• 1:11:29
  goal with him from day one was to give him enough, which in
• 1:11:33
  this case was a college degree to get gainful employment to end
• 1:11:36
  that cycle of poverty for him. It's been exhausting.
• 1:11:40
  It's been really hard. I had no idea what I took on
• 1:11:43
  this little project. Like, he calls me five times a
• 1:11:46
  week and I can't always talk to him.
• 1:11:48
  But what he really wants to know, besides the money, is that
• 1:11:51
  somebody actually cares about him.
• 1:11:53
  He wants to be seen. And the reason why he calls me
• 1:11:55
  Papa and he's asking me is because he's let me know the
• 1:12:00
  fact that I just took a stand for him means everything to him,
• 1:12:03
  'cause now I haven't given him money for two months, since
• 1:12:06
  December, like almost three months now, and he still calls
• 1:12:09
  me just this. I mean, he knows we have a, we
• 1:12:10
  have a really, really clear agreement.
• 1:12:13
  And he just wants like, imagine the world that you knew and no
• 1:12:17
  matter who you were in life, if you were born in Uganda with no
• 1:12:21
  money, not a lot of opportunity that somebody actually cares
• 1:12:24
  about you. I try to do that in my
• 1:12:26
  apartments, in the apartment center, in real estate with my
• 1:12:29
  nonprofit. And I think that is love.
• 1:12:31
  I think that is really like that is like such a deep spiritual
• 1:12:35
  practice of oh for sure love, right?
• 1:12:37
  We, we visited Kibera, which is the biggest slum in Kenya and
• 1:12:43
  Nairobi back when we were there for the Nobility project.
• 1:12:47
  They had just finished building the project and we visited and
• 1:12:51
  it was one of the most amazing experiences Deborah and I had
• 1:12:54
  ever had. They just opened it and you
• 1:12:57
  know, the, the children just ran out and they're all pinching our
• 1:13:01
  skin because a lot of these children had never even seen
• 1:13:04
  skin this color. They're growing up in a place
• 1:13:07
  where they, after middle school, there was no high school.
• 1:13:12
  And to get to their middle school, oftentimes they're,
• 1:13:15
  they're hiking like 6 miles. Their parents don't have cars,
• 1:13:19
  for example. So it was, it was, it was, but
• 1:13:23
  in Kibera, like visiting the slum, you know, we really fell
• 1:13:26
  in love with this, with this girl and we agreed to pay for
• 1:13:34
  her schooling all the way through high school.
• 1:13:37
  And Rachel and her became pen pals.
• 1:13:41
  And Rachel is always like, wow, she writes so much better than
• 1:13:44
  me and it read and just all of these all these beautiful
• 1:13:48
  things. But I know that I know that I
• 1:13:51
  know that feeling. And one of the one of the
• 1:13:54
  feelings or one of the big teaching moments with Rachel
• 1:13:58
  going growing up is, you know, Rachel's our oldest daughter.
• 1:14:01
  She's 21. She's at Tulane triple major.
• 1:14:03
  She's like hyper ambitious, but with, with Rachel, she came out
• 1:14:09
  with a book, you know about her book, which is called The
• 1:14:12
  Gardens of the Forest when she was 13.
• 1:14:14
  And when she was 12 and she was working on it, she found the
• 1:14:18
  illustrator and the illustrator cost like $7000 to pay.
• 1:14:25
  And she'd saved up money since she was seven years old because
• 1:14:29
  one day she wanted to write a book That was, she knew since
• 1:14:33
  since she was very young that she wanted to do that
• 1:14:35
  interesting synchronicity because since 7:00, you know,
• 1:14:37
  it's when I started programming, I found my soul song and it was
• 1:14:41
  to create a better world through technology.
• 1:14:43
  That's what I'm still working on, right?
• 1:14:45
  With Love Conquer Sphere, doing it at kind of the metathematic
• 1:14:48
  level now. And with, with, with Rachel, she
• 1:14:52
  said, come on, you guys could just pay this.
• 1:14:56
  Like you guys could just pay the sheet she'd saved up since she
• 1:14:59
  was 7 by selling jewelry at coffee shops.
• 1:15:03
  And she'd saved up all this money and it was her whole net
• 1:15:06
  worth. Her whole net worth was $7000.
• 1:15:09
  And I told her, I said, and it was agonizing at the time
• 1:15:14
  because yes, we could just pay for it.
• 1:15:17
  But I told her, I said, Rachel, if we pay for this, you will
• 1:15:21
  remember for the rest of your life that we took your power and
• 1:15:26
  you saved up for this since you're 7 years old and I know
• 1:15:29
  it's all your money, but you'll remember for the rest of your
• 1:15:32
  life that you paid for it and you'll never forget it.
• 1:15:36
  And she actually wrote about that in her one of her essays to
• 1:15:40
  get into Tulane, which was her her dream school is her dream
• 1:15:44
  school. And she loves it there.
• 1:15:47
  And you know, that was one of those moments where we just
• 1:15:51
  absolutely could have screwed it up, so I understand.
• 1:15:54
  It's hard. It's so hard.
• 1:15:55
  Like, you know, I, you know. 'Cause you could just pay 2.
• 1:15:58
  1000 pay it like you know. Yeah, but, but, but you, yeah,
• 1:16:02
  it's, it's it's a these are, these are the parenting moments,
• 1:16:05
  you know, where they, they really, really matter.
• 1:16:08
  And, you know, you think about it like there's this balance in
• 1:16:12
  life between knowing that people care about yourself, like even a
• 1:16:16
  stranger showing up for you. But there's that that tension of
• 1:16:20
  also letting, like I said, getting that high.
• 1:16:21
  You're actually giving someone the freedom to figure it out.
• 1:16:24
  It's definitely a powerful thing, you know?
• 1:16:26
  But we were at a dinner party together this week and it seems
• 1:16:29
  it. Was a great party.
• 1:16:30
  That was a wonderful party. I had some some really great
• 1:16:34
  thoughts, but you really think about it right now as you go
• 1:16:37
  through. I mean, there's a lot in my
• 1:16:38
  going on in my mind that feels like love and fear right now for
• 1:16:42
  me. I'm, I'm going to be like
• 1:16:43
  usually really vibrate mostly on love, like you say, but like we
• 1:16:48
  are, you know, things have changed in the last 13 days, 13
• 1:16:50
  days. And I'm watching like what we've
• 1:16:52
  been talking about at the Ted talks.
• 1:16:55
  Now they're starting to come into some reality of just how
• 1:16:58
  smart and how fast things are moving.
• 1:17:01
  And you and I are both pretty good extrapolators about like
• 1:17:04
  what it could mean and certainly can mean lots of great things,
• 1:17:07
  which is the optimistic side. And I tend to be a Brett hurt.
• 1:17:10
  I'm going to Brett hurt Peter and Montesfin you 2 are my two
• 1:17:13
  favorite optimists besides myself.
• 1:17:14
  So like I, I definitely. Got a great podcast with with
• 1:17:17
  Moon shot. Yeah.
• 1:17:18
  Yeah, I love Moon Shot. It's one of my favourites.
• 1:17:21
  So it's like this idea of the technology is not necessarily
• 1:17:25
  bad, it's not necessarily good. It's like to your point, it's
• 1:17:27
  just collecting human intelligence and we know at the
• 1:17:30
  core, the thing we need to break after 300,000 years is this
• 1:17:35
  illusion of separateness. And we talked about this that we
• 1:17:39
  called the tribalism. We were actually, it was AI
• 1:17:41
  loved our conversation on tribalism.
• 1:17:43
  And we were talking about tribalism, which is in some ways
• 1:17:46
  is beautiful, right? Like identity, like how great
• 1:17:49
  that humans can identify of 9 million people on the planet
• 1:17:53
  that you could say I'm Jewish and there's only 16,000,000 of
• 1:17:56
  us or hey, I'm American like or I'm I'm a Dodger fan.
• 1:18:00
  Like there's lots like the Super Bowl is happening.
• 1:18:02
  Like there's lots of ways that tribalism can be really, what do
• 1:18:06
  they say? It's hard to know more than 150
• 1:18:07
  people in any way and really have an intimate relationship
• 1:18:09
  What that, what that what that law is called.
• 1:18:13
  But. Yeah, I first, I first, I first
• 1:18:15
  read about that and Malcolm Gladwell's Outliers, I think.
• 1:18:19
  Yeah, I think there's too. So it's I love this idea of
• 1:18:22
  tribalism to the. Extent that it creates it in a
• 1:18:26
  very big world, it creates intimacy, it creates belonging,
• 1:18:29
  identity. The the the dark side, the
• 1:18:31
  shadow side of that is it creates this illusion of
• 1:18:34
  separateness, right and love conquers fear of so much of the
• 1:18:38
  core. When I think about I've been
• 1:18:41
  listening to some of your podcasts and the conversations
• 1:18:43
  we've had is love can really the light has to come in over fear
• 1:18:48
  when we feel safe with each other as a species.
• 1:18:52
  Now it's no longer with 150 people.
• 1:18:54
  We'll continue doing. That and I think at the dinner
• 1:18:56
  party I came with, let me see if I can remember what I said.
• 1:18:59
  I said is there a way to know tribally that were special but
• 1:19:07
  not better is what I think I said at the dinner party, we're
• 1:19:09
  special but not better, right? That's what you said.
• 1:19:13
  So it's like this humble servant.
• 1:19:16
  Leadership. That we all truly matter.
• 1:19:19
  Because I find that most religions, they say we're all
• 1:19:21
  they, they, they say it out loud, hey, we're not better, but
• 1:19:24
  we're a little better. Or join this club, you know,
• 1:19:28
  join this Golf Club or, or Brett, like, you know, this
• 1:19:30
  society you want to be in. Like, yeah, it's all the same,
• 1:19:32
  except we have, we have an edge that someone else doesn't know.
• 1:19:36
  And as humans, of course we want to have the edge.
• 1:19:38
  But I think that's good. And it's also the shadow side
• 1:19:42
  that keeps love conquering fear. So I, I, I feel like, I feel
• 1:19:47
  like right now, in this day and age, we can jump into AI and all
• 1:19:50
  the things, but I feel like what humanity really has to do as as
• 1:19:54
  humans right now, it's to somehow, if we can take a new
• 1:19:59
  identity towards tribalism. Well, that is, that is in Part 3
• 1:20:03
  of of. My book, you know, Love Conquers
• 1:20:06
  Fear is on transformation. And you know you, I know you're
• 1:20:11
  a fan of the lattice. You know, you talked about a
• 1:20:13
  dinner party. Love the lattice.
• 1:20:16
  Well, so. The lat you know as you know in
• 1:20:18
  the lattice like the way humanity.
• 1:20:20
  Unites is that science and spirituality come together and
• 1:20:23
  we find out that our actual reality are provable.
• 1:20:26
  Actual reality is rooted in love and light.
• 1:20:30
  And you know, one of the things that I find super exciting about
• 1:20:33
  this moment with AI, sure, I'm geeked out.
• 1:20:35
  I've been programming since I was seven.
• 1:20:37
  I've geeked out with the whole, you know, all the things that it
• 1:20:40
  can do. And what questions would you
• 1:20:42
  want to ask a machine that is, that has consumed all of the
• 1:20:47
  content from all the spiritual text, et cetera?
• 1:20:50
  I mean, it's a fascinating question.
• 1:20:52
  You know, again, people just jump in.
• 1:20:54
  What question do you want to ask?
• 1:20:55
  It's, it's, it's the Babel fish moment.
• 1:20:57
  It communicates in every language.
• 1:20:59
  You can ask any question you want about anything.
• 1:21:02
  Like I could take a photo of this, this Buddha, you know,
• 1:21:06
  which is the representation of Kwan Yan and read all about Kwan
• 1:21:09
  Yan and why Kwan Yan is the embodiment of male and female
• 1:21:13
  and the helper to God for humanity to ascend.
• 1:21:16
  By the way, very Celestine prophecy, this wall, this Buddha
• 1:21:20
  did not put this here. This has been here for 11 years.
• 1:21:24
  This is like all. Yeah.
• 1:21:26
  I mean, the woman we bought the house from is just all meant to
• 1:21:29
  be right? That like the prediction of
• 1:21:32
  working, you know, the the divine guidance that I'd be
• 1:21:35
  working on. Love conquers fear by brothers
• 1:21:39
  is 1 L sign. This is just a brave thing
• 1:21:41
  before we go to the next thing. Yeah.
• 1:21:42
  I've watched your spiritual transformation since I've known
• 1:21:45
  you and it's it's unbelievable. Well, thank you.
• 1:21:49
  I mean, the speed makes a lot coming from you.
• 1:21:51
  Yeah, I mean. Your.
• 1:21:53
  Heart is always perfect. Like you've always had a
• 1:21:55
  beautiful. Heart and I think you can give
• 1:21:56
  your mom a lot of kudos and your dad for your heart, but your
• 1:22:00
  your spiritual depth of. Taking that heart that you've
• 1:22:03
  always. Had because you always to have
• 1:22:06
  EQ and IQ in balance is a really a lot of times you're gifted
• 1:22:09
  with one or the other, but I think you've I mean, you've
• 1:22:12
  always been both, but I'm just watching you take it to the next
• 1:22:14
  level and I just want to acknowledge you like it's like
• 1:22:17
  for you to even like it's like see the like 11 years in the
• 1:22:20
  path that you've been on and your transformation in those
• 1:22:23
  eleven years is incredible. Well, thank you.
• 1:22:25
  I mean, you know, for me, you know, I've been very transparent
• 1:22:27
  about this on the. Podcast I mean, for me,
• 1:22:29
  psychedelics have been a catalyst and now the, the, the
• 1:22:34
  reality is that's, that's my soul coming out and you know,
• 1:22:40
  I've, I've seen through through journeys that I'm doing exactly
• 1:22:44
  what my soul wants me to do right now.
• 1:22:48
  So beautiful. You know, it's so fantastic
• 1:22:50
  having a lot of experiences growing up with, with, with,
• 1:22:53
  with. God.
• 1:22:54
  Through prayer and feeling it and feeling that, that feeling
• 1:22:59
  all over my body as I, you know, am looking at something
• 1:23:04
  incredibly beautiful. You know, as Patrick Tempo said
• 1:23:08
  on Episode 25, he thinks that the definition of love is
• 1:23:13
  witnessing beauty. And that happens a lot of times
• 1:23:16
  in nature. I love that, by the way.
• 1:23:19
  Yeah, it's a great. It's a great.
• 1:23:20
  That's a great episode. He's he's got a a.
• 1:23:23
  Beautiful heart talk about another guy with a just a
• 1:23:25
  beautiful just witnessing beauty.
• 1:23:27
  Just witnessing beauty, right? Which is what?
• 1:23:30
  Our our our fellow. Friend the the the maker of
• 1:23:33
  fantastic fungi is working on right now, right with hidden
• 1:23:36
  beauty. So you know, it's Louis
• 1:23:39
  Schwartzberg. So it's, it's one thing to read
• 1:23:43
  spiritual text and understand this reference to, you know, to
• 1:23:49
  God or this higher power. You know, whatever created
• 1:23:52
  created the spark that led to The Big Bang, you know, and I
• 1:23:55
  believe consciousness is fundamental.
• 1:23:59
  It's a whole, it's one thing to kind of intellectualize that.
• 1:24:02
  It's a whole nother thing to experience that.
• 1:24:04
  And you know, I'm have Evan Alexander on this podcast.
• 1:24:06
  He's experienced it deeply through a near death experience.
• 1:24:09
  I've had 11 friends now and 14 months open up to me about their
• 1:24:14
  near death experience. 11 friends prior to 20250 friends
• 1:24:18
  open up. Some of these people have been
• 1:24:20
  friends of mine for 10 to 20 years.
• 1:24:21
  This most transcendent experience of their entire life.
• 1:24:25
  But I think this consciousness awakening, you know, with, with,
• 1:24:28
  with, with psychedelics, with meditation is really it's, it's,
• 1:24:33
  it's a synchronicity for humanity overall.
• 1:24:37
  And if you didn't look at it spiritually, you would say that
• 1:24:41
  there's this, there's this kind of natural selection, you know,
• 1:24:45
  evolutionary, you know, biological thing that we don't
• 1:24:48
  understand that is trying to wake us up so we don't extinct
• 1:24:52
  ourselves. That's another way you could
• 1:24:54
  look at it. I don't think that's, that's I
• 1:24:56
  think two things can be true at the same time.
• 1:24:59
  But I what I've seen is it's actually our spiritual reality
• 1:25:03
  that's attempting to wake us up. What do you think about that?
• 1:25:07
  And what, what is your opinion on what is this reality we're
• 1:25:10
  in? You know, I've spent a lot of
• 1:25:11
  time on this podcast talking about that.
• 1:25:13
  Yeah, I don't think it's a simulation, I think.
• 1:25:17
  The lattice. I've heard a lot about the
• 1:25:18
  lattice. Not only does it talk about
• 1:25:21
  like, you know, really like love and science coming together,
• 1:25:24
  what I love is you actually took it to the next level.
• 1:25:26
  Now there's other planets and other realities and other
• 1:25:28
  dimensions, and ironically, there are patterns.
• 1:25:31
  While we have different languages and different bodies
• 1:25:33
  and different chemistry, we're not made of the same thing.
• 1:25:36
  We actually all function essentially on the same
• 1:25:39
  vibration. I know it sounds really, but
• 1:25:42
  like, that really hit me beautifully.
• 1:25:44
  And I think that's probably the highest vibratory force in the
• 1:25:48
  universe. Yeah, so to really.
• 1:25:50
  Understand like this is back to like tribalism.
• 1:25:52
  It doesn't matter what body. It doesn't matter if you run on
• 1:25:54
  nitrogen, oxygen, carbon, doesn't really matter how you
• 1:25:57
  think. If a big, small, tall, it's like
• 1:26:00
  there is a, there is a, there is a frequency and vibration that
• 1:26:04
  we just barely understand. It's sounds, it's colour, it's
• 1:26:07
  light. You know, the quantum is now
• 1:26:11
  just kind of exploring what these things are.
• 1:26:14
  And so for ultimately really just this, for these, these
• 1:26:19
  vibrations and frequencies, it really changes the way you think
• 1:26:24
  about things. I think it's where the lattice.
• 1:26:25
  So like, I hope I'm still not sure, Brett, like I do think
• 1:26:28
  love is is I'm not sure if it's the I know you think it's the
• 1:26:32
  guiding principle. I hope it is.
• 1:26:34
  I know it's a guiding principle. I think there's definitely
• 1:26:37
  forces. I mean, when I look at duality
• 1:26:39
  on this planet, I don't know why Earth has duality.
• 1:26:43
  You could say you can't have light without darkness.
• 1:26:46
  You and I, you know, maybe to actually expect, you know, to be
• 1:26:48
  in a body, which is I learned from some of my psychedelic
• 1:26:51
  experiences, like this body is actually has a lot of friction.
• 1:26:55
  If if you're if you have no self, you can if you imagine
• 1:26:58
  that you were just a spirit or an Angel or whatever.
• 1:27:00
  Is it better? Like is is heaven there with an
• 1:27:03
  Angel or is this heaven? I think heaven is all around us.
• 1:27:07
  I think so too. I used to think.
• 1:27:09
  I used to think more like the religious thing, like.
• 1:27:11
  You try to be a good person so you can go to heaven.
• 1:27:14
  I actually think this body that gets aches and pains and
• 1:27:18
  arthritis and can get Moody and get depressed and is happy and
• 1:27:22
  sad. I have a feeling that maybe this
• 1:27:24
  is heaven or a heaven because the friction of pain and
• 1:27:31
  pleasure, the, the, the, the contrast.
• 1:27:34
  I sometimes even like, look at like love or sex.
• 1:27:37
  Sometimes it's the lack of love and you find love and it's so
• 1:27:40
  explosive or like right now I'm actually hungry.
• 1:27:43
  So we'll get to be at lunchtime. It's like the fact that my
• 1:27:45
  stomach's a little hungry right now is like the opposite of
• 1:27:47
  food. There's like a little not pain,
• 1:27:49
  but you know, like discomfort. And it's like, like how fun that
• 1:27:53
  we get to like, how do you get the pleasure if you don't
• 1:27:56
  experience the other part of it? So I think the nature that I
• 1:28:00
  really see and it's, it's hard is that, and it makes it easier
• 1:28:05
  to love though, is that these are just meat suits.
• 1:28:08
  This is not, this is not a simulation, it is a vibration.
• 1:28:13
  I do think that there is like a much larger cosmic
• 1:28:18
  consciousness, universal consciousness, and we just
• 1:28:22
  don't, we just don't have the scientific principles yet to
• 1:28:25
  understand that this, this universe, which is so beyond our
• 1:28:32
  comprehension as humans, as being large.
• 1:28:34
  To someone else, this may not be large at all.
• 1:28:36
  There's 100 billion galaxies alone, we theorize, right?
• 1:28:40
  Just the size of a Galaxy is hard to comprehend.
• 1:28:42
  Well, Brett, you think about how many, how many cells are in a
• 1:28:45
  human body? Is it like trillions?
• 1:28:47
  Trillions. Yeah, 3.
• 1:28:48
  Trillion trill. So what if you and I?
• 1:28:51
  Are. Just a little cell in the right
• 1:28:53
  toe of another creature that's like we we don't even have size
• 1:28:57
  or scale because right now you have 3 trillion cells.
• 1:29:02
  Is it cells in your body? Cells are elements of like
• 1:29:05
  cells. Yeah, but it.
• 1:29:06
  But the crazy thing is, we're almost all empty space and.
• 1:29:09
  We know that we're light and energy from a quantum level.
• 1:29:13
  Yeah, like everything here, everything you, me, we're almost
• 1:29:16
  all empty space. So therefore love.
• 1:29:18
  And I think that's why there's such a that's why I think Play
• 1:29:20
  Wealth is a really fun one. For me and we talk, you and I
• 1:29:22
  both are. So I think creativity because
• 1:29:26
  creativity is ultimately creation, right?
• 1:29:28
  So if there's birth and death, right, nobody likes to think
• 1:29:31
  about death, but how do you have birth if there isn't death?
• 1:29:34
  And so if these are just beautiful vibrations and cycles
• 1:29:37
  of duality and we're ultimately craters.
• 1:29:40
  So love, the vibration of love and safety is the ultimate.
• 1:29:45
  But what I love about LSD and the mind of the universe, I'm
• 1:29:48
  only halfway through the audible.
• 1:29:50
  Oh my gosh, I think so many. And the thing I loved about it?
• 1:29:53
  Kind of. Like, is that like, I think for
• 1:29:55
  a lot of people and the way our religions?
• 1:29:56
  Teach it. You know, there's an entity,
• 1:29:58
  there's a deity. If you pray long enough to this
• 1:30:00
  deity or whatever God, this deity, you're ultimately gonna
• 1:30:04
  get, you're gonna get a, you'll go to heaven or you'll go to
• 1:30:06
  this place or you'll find the spot.
• 1:30:09
  And what is the spot? We don't know what the spot
• 1:30:11
  feels like. We call it heaven.
• 1:30:12
  Some people call it white light. They experience the white light.
• 1:30:15
  What I loved about your last guest, though, was he's like,
• 1:30:17
  no, let's go beyond the white light.
• 1:30:19
  Let's go into this. What's it called?
• 1:30:20
  The diamond, Diamond luminosity. Let's go into diamond luminosity
• 1:30:25
  and. What I love about that?
• 1:30:27
  Is even love? Even love is not
• 1:30:31
  one-dimensional. It's like whatever you think
• 1:30:33
  love is, it's white light for some people, maybe it's an
• 1:30:37
  orgasm for some people, maybe it's the birth of their child
• 1:30:40
  for someone, maybe it's making money.
• 1:30:42
  I don't know. Like it's getting married,
• 1:30:43
  fighting the love of your life. Whatever you think love is, it's
• 1:30:46
  just a little aspect. A teeny, teeny fragment of what
• 1:30:51
  actually love is, and it's way beyond human understanding.
• 1:30:55
  And I think that's that. That's really what Diamond
• 1:30:57
  Luminosity woke me up to. Like what's the light behind the
• 1:31:01
  light and what are the dimensions of it?
• 1:31:03
  Creativity I think is a joy and aliveness are aspects I think of
• 1:31:07
  love because it's all about that creativity and birth, which is I
• 1:31:11
  think inane and aim's not the right word.
• 1:31:14
  Like natural, like that's part, I'm sorry, innate.
• 1:31:18
  I feel like it's innate to whatever this cosmic mystery is.
• 1:31:21
  That love, which is creativity and joy in these aspects is
• 1:31:25
  innate to it and we and we gravitate towards it.
• 1:31:28
  When we're not in fear, we gravitate towards it.
• 1:31:31
  That is the common root in all spiritual text.
• 1:31:35
  The common root is that you have to get to the point where you
• 1:31:40
  find the ability to have love, conquer your own fear and really
• 1:31:44
  embrace that as your reality and operate from that place, whether
• 1:31:50
  it's, you know, Christianity, you know, Jesus was all about
• 1:31:52
  selfless love. You know, that's that was that
• 1:31:55
  was what he was preaching, right?
• 1:31:57
  He was hanging out with with the quote UN quote, lowest of the
• 1:32:00
  low, looking at every human being for the divinity within
• 1:32:05
  and trying to lift them up. And that is, you know, in
• 1:32:09
  Judaism, you know, we call that selfless service.
• 1:32:12
  Like what is the highest form of sadaqa of giving is giving
• 1:32:16
  without any attribution. Right, right.
• 1:32:18
  I didn't, you know, I mean, there's there's things you
• 1:32:20
  mentioned on this podcast, in this episode that I even know
• 1:32:24
  about you, which doesn't surprise me, which which is
• 1:32:27
  like, OK, of course, you know, of course JP has done that and
• 1:32:30
  never told me, which is which is really awesome.
• 1:32:33
  Yeah. So you know, that that is that
• 1:32:37
  is the common root. Like if I really distill all the
• 1:32:40
  books I've read on quantum physics, you know, AI
• 1:32:42
  consciousness and ultimately spirituality, it's to find that
• 1:32:48
  common root that that's the tie that binds us all together.
• 1:32:52
  That's the actual reality we come from.
• 1:32:55
  And then once we've done that hard internal work, whether it's
• 1:32:59
  a billionaire or just walking the spiritual path or both, then
• 1:33:04
  at that point you can help others have love, conquer their
• 1:33:08
  fear. And then if all of humanity does
• 1:33:11
  that, we ascend. Like that's the metaphorical and
• 1:33:15
  mystical heaven and earth merging.
• 1:33:17
  I mean, that's the biggest reason why I'm doing this
• 1:33:18
  project is that I've, I've, I, one thing I am good at is I can
• 1:33:24
  see where technology is going to go.
• 1:33:25
  I've been able to see that since I was a little kid.
• 1:33:28
  You know, I was, I was with this woman last week and, and she
• 1:33:31
  was, she was like, you know, one of the things I was struck by,
• 1:33:34
  you know, struck by with you. She, she was listening to some,
• 1:33:38
  some speech I gave like 20 years ago.
• 1:33:40
  I can't even remember the speech, but but she said in that
• 1:33:43
  speech, you were talking about the fact that when you were
• 1:33:46
  10-11 years old, you were telling your teachers like how
• 1:33:50
  everything was going to be OK with technology, how their jobs
• 1:33:53
  would be better, how they would be able to teach better.
• 1:33:56
  And I was like, wow, OK, I forgot about that.
• 1:33:59
  But yes, you're right. Like I was having those, those
• 1:34:03
  discussions all the time. And with, with great power comes
• 1:34:08
  great responsibility. So we're, we're in a place now
• 1:34:12
  where we're in the exponential of exponentials, our ability to
• 1:34:15
  manifest abundance that you and I can't even imagine.
• 1:34:18
  Like if you and I could, could, could time travel 100 years from
• 1:34:21
  now. Like assuming humanity makes it,
• 1:34:24
  which I'm 95% certain that we make it at that, we will not be
• 1:34:29
  able, you and I would not be able to completely grapple with
• 1:34:33
  what life is like 100 years from now.
• 1:34:35
  Just like you said electricity didn't exist, you know?
• 1:34:37
  Yeah, it's like a different world.
• 1:34:39
  Yeah, but it's but electricity, you know, we've had for the last
• 1:34:42
  around 300 years. Of our 300,000 your cycle now
• 1:34:46
  it's like this exponential, the exponential curve.
• 1:34:48
  Every week of tech progress to me feels like a year 10 years
• 1:34:52
  ago. What's it you know, we're I've
• 1:34:54
  never experienced anything like this in my life.
• 1:34:56
  The last the last year of technology and.
• 1:34:58
  I've lived through like the Internet, the cell phone,
• 1:35:00
  smartphones, you know, like I've never seen anything like this.
• 1:35:03
  So so I, I really I, I and I've seen this through a psychedelic.
• 1:35:07
  Journey, that this really is God's final exam for humanity
• 1:35:11
  and God wants us to make it. You know, whatever you call God,
• 1:35:15
  and, you know, a lot of people are triggered by that, whether
• 1:35:18
  you call that consciousness, whether you call that heaven,
• 1:35:20
  whether you call that the great intelligence of the universe, I
• 1:35:23
  think that's what Joe Dispenza call said.
• 1:35:24
  I knew you're a Joe Dispenza fan.
• 1:35:26
  I am too. That, you know, God wants us to
• 1:35:30
  make it to that place. And once we make it there, what
• 1:35:36
  I've seen is that now we are one of the species.
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  Maybe we don't know for sure if there's other life out there.
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  It's hard to imagine there's not in 100 billion galaxies in the
• 1:35:46
  universe this fast. As far as we know, it's
• 1:35:47
  infinite. Yeah, once we make it, then we
• 1:35:51
  get to propagate the rest of the universe with love conquering
• 1:35:55
  fear. And we find out in the lattice
• 1:35:57
  that other species out there have had that precipice point
• 1:36:00
  where they had to get to that point.
• 1:36:03
  And part of how I've heard the Fermes paradox explained, which
• 1:36:07
  the Fermes paradox is like if there's alien life out there,
• 1:36:10
  why have we not already seen it? Is that one of the dystopian
• 1:36:16
  ways to look at it is that no species has gotten to the point
• 1:36:20
  of development we've gotten to and then survived that.
• 1:36:24
  There's like this point where if you don't stop playing the
• 1:36:27
  tribal games and the 0 sum game technology, you blow yourself up
• 1:36:31
  and it's over and you're going to start all over again.
• 1:36:33
  And. As I've covered on this podcast,
• 1:36:34
  you know we already have. So many nuclear weapons today
• 1:36:40
  you have to use it to destroy the Earth Legion 300 times over.
• 1:36:42
  Some it's 50 times over. So.
• 1:36:44
  Just 2% of today's arsenal. And we've never made more in in
• 1:36:49
  in some countries as are being made right now, even though
• 1:36:53
  there's already 50 times. And you know the acronym for
• 1:36:56
  that is MAD, which is mutually assured destruction, right?
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  So it is this disease that we have to overcome.
• 1:37:06
  And I just I I don't see another way of.
• 1:37:11
  Us making it. Without the dogma breaking down
• 1:37:14
  and our actual reality coming into focus so that humanity
• 1:37:20
  embraces that. And you know, that a dystopian
• 1:37:24
  way that we we would make it, which I don't believe in, but
• 1:37:28
  some people have hypothesized is that it has to get so dark that
• 1:37:32
  we have to go to such a violent place, etcetera, that that gets
• 1:37:36
  humanity to wake up, right? But I don't think we're doomed
• 1:37:40
  to repeat the past at all. Like we evolved, you know, there
• 1:37:44
  there are things that we did in the past, like had slaves, et
• 1:37:46
  cetera, that that are completely obsolete notions.
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  The way that women have been treated.
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  You know, it's a recent advancement even in America.
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  You know, did you know that women didn't have the right to
• 1:37:58
  have a checking account until the late 70s in America?
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  I mean, women didn't have the right to vote until about 100
• 1:38:04
  years ago. We're.
• 1:38:05
  Supporters. You know, philanthropist for the
• 1:38:07
  19th, You know, which is a great nonprofit in town that covers
• 1:38:11
  women's news that there's an asterisk on their logo because
• 1:38:17
  for women of color, that was until around 50 years later,
• 1:38:20
  right? So it's like only white women
• 1:38:22
  have the right to vote like a. So there's this like there's,
• 1:38:25
  there's a lot that we've evolved from that we're not doomed to
• 1:38:28
  repeat, you know, cut through a curveball that you might be
• 1:38:31
  negative. It's just a curveball.
• 1:38:32
  Yeah. So.
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  And a lot of religions, if, if we believe it called Spirit,
• 1:38:37
  God, whatever, that ultimately we're not in charge, We think
• 1:38:40
  we're in charge. That's also an illusion that
• 1:38:41
  we're not in charge. There's actually a divine plan,
• 1:38:43
  right? But there was a hard you know,
• 1:38:45
  the illusion of separation, the illusion of separation, but also
• 1:38:48
  that there really is a plan that's bigger than us.
• 1:38:50
  Whether we know there's. A cosmic thing.
• 1:38:52
  And so we've had times where humanity kind of went off course
• 1:38:56
  and there was like Noah's ark, you know, was it a wrathful God?
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  Or was it just a God saying, hey, we're going to do a little
• 1:39:02
  correction? Check here.
• 1:39:03
  We have evolved so much. I mean, you're right.
• 1:39:05
  Like there's no doubt we've evolved.
• 1:39:07
  And I think we also know with the technology moving at this
• 1:39:12
  speed, it's like this race between our consciousness being
• 1:39:15
  able to go from from love, from fear to love, like being able to
• 1:39:20
  do that. It's a race of that and
• 1:39:22
  technology getting so smart because we're exponentially
• 1:39:25
  growing technology and we're rooting for our human
• 1:39:28
  consciousness to be able to keep up with it.
• 1:39:32
  And if you're really religious, you would say it really, you
• 1:39:35
  know, have faith because honestly, like whatever is best
• 1:39:39
  for humanity, it's a loving, compassionate God.
• 1:39:41
  And sometimes though, I know in Judaism, they almost say
• 1:39:44
  goddess, sometimes he's like, he's like your loving parent.
• 1:39:47
  Sometimes you do get a little smack on the ass or something.
• 1:39:50
  But ultimately it's for the good of the planet and good for the
• 1:39:53
  the vibration of love. I am with you.
• 1:39:55
  I want you to let you know, like I'm completely with you, that I
• 1:39:59
  would love to see humanity. Wake up in a way that we really
• 1:40:04
  surprise ourselves. And I always say man plans and
• 1:40:06
  God laughs. Like even if it looks dark right
• 1:40:09
  now, to your point, in 10 to 15 years, it might be like, wow,
• 1:40:12
  the next Elon Musk came up and literally reprogrammed all the
• 1:40:16
  stuff. We got a little scared.
• 1:40:17
  We figured it out. It all went really, really well.
• 1:40:20
  And I want to believe in that too.
• 1:40:22
  And could we believe no matter what, even if it's not the
• 1:40:26
  outcome that you and I want as humans, that whatever's in store
• 1:40:31
  for us is absolutely, whether it may not be good for us or our
• 1:40:34
  kids ultimately, but may ultimately be good for humanity
• 1:40:38
  and God and love long term, 'cause I actually think love
• 1:40:41
  does conquer fear no matter what.
• 1:40:43
  Like I think no matter what we do, love will conquer fear, just
• 1:40:47
  like the Lattice says. Your book is brilliant, Brett.
• 1:40:49
  Thank you. Because love always conquers
• 1:40:51
  fear. We're gonna do it.
• 1:40:53
  What you. And I want we.
• 1:40:55
  We want us humans in our lifetime, in our generation, for
• 1:40:59
  our kids sake, to break this cycle of humans going backwards
• 1:41:04
  and forwards, backwards and forwards.
• 1:41:06
  And there's a moment right now to do it.
• 1:41:08
  And you and I are rooting. If we can push the scale, which
• 1:41:10
  I think we can. We're just trying to push the
• 1:41:12
  scale a little bit, tilt it a little bit.
• 1:41:14
  It's not a majority. I don't think this is a majority
• 1:41:17
  wins, by the way. I don't even think you have to
• 1:41:19
  convince half of humanity. I think it's, and I think
• 1:41:22
  there's just enough of us that it's an energetic spiritual
• 1:41:26
  movement that tilts the scale to a different reality.
• 1:41:30
  But let's say there's a bunch of realities.
• 1:41:31
  It's not like good or bad. It's not like annihilation or
• 1:41:35
  utopia. There's a tons of potential
• 1:41:38
  realities that's very quantum physics and we collectively get.
• 1:41:43
  To decide, but I can tell you from.
• 1:41:44
  My psychedelic experiences, the wisdom that was downloaded to me
• 1:41:47
  was. I asked my source what number
• 1:41:52
  did we need and what number will tilt the scale like what?
• 1:41:57
  Because I want to know how to do it.
• 1:41:58
  I wanted the map and I got scolded like you are such a
• 1:42:03
  human and you think this is still about numbers and you have
• 1:42:06
  your calculations in your formula.
• 1:42:08
  And the the response was, I've never discussed this before, but
• 1:42:12
  the but the response was it's not a number and it's not even
• 1:42:15
  your mathematical systems and it's not majority rules.
• 1:42:19
  It's a number that you don't need to know about.
• 1:42:21
  It's an age-old number. But the number is not based on
• 1:42:24
  even your number of numbers. It's actually collective energy
• 1:42:28
  of like enough people in the same frequency standing for love
• 1:42:33
  of her fear that will tilt it to different realities.
• 1:42:36
  The way it was explained to me. This is so weird that I'm
• 1:42:38
  telling you this. The way it was explained to me,
• 1:42:41
  it was I got scolded by that A. Little bit.
• 1:42:44
  It was a tough grandma explained this to me was it's almost like
• 1:42:47
  the tire on a car. Do you remember the old like
• 1:42:50
  like 20 years ago, they put these little weights like they'd
• 1:42:53
  hammer on your so your so your tire didn't wobble.
• 1:42:56
  They'd put like a they'd hammer weight here, a little weight
• 1:42:59
  here and it was a way to keep your and this is that was
• 1:43:01
  explained to me that literally tires throughout humanity in the
• 1:43:07
  creation. You get these moments that
• 1:43:09
  things get wobbly and it always comes back.
• 1:43:14
  It always it it's gonna correct no matter what.
• 1:43:16
  Like we may not like the way it corrects, but it's gonna correct
• 1:43:19
  that tire will correct 'cause that's just what universal
• 1:43:23
  spirit will do. But if enough of us and it's not
• 1:43:27
  a number and it's not a formula, it's an intention.
• 1:43:30
  It's like you, you're now standing you by you doing the
• 1:43:33
  spread, taking time and not rushing to your next company.
• 1:43:35
  You're standing for something me being here with you.
• 1:43:38
  We're we're voting. That's right.
• 1:43:40
  Anyone in the audience right now who's like, I'm doing this one
• 1:43:43
  thing right now to push love over conquers fear.
• 1:43:47
  You're hammering away. That's right.
• 1:43:49
  That little weight that puts the tire that's been out of
• 1:43:52
  alignment back into a alignment. And so this moment, as important
• 1:44:01
  as it is for technology, and I would say as important it is, is
• 1:44:05
  to understand all. This what's more.
• 1:44:07
  Important than to understand about this is for every soul
• 1:44:12
  that is lit up by this message, and I think if we've been
• 1:44:15
  listening to us for almost 2 hours, there must be some
• 1:44:18
  interest in the topic. Is to vote with all your heart,
• 1:44:22
  mind and soul. Yeah.
• 1:44:24
  For humanity. Yeah.
• 1:44:25
  And for yourself or your family. That's it.
• 1:44:27
  I mean, you summarized it perfectly and that is why.
• 1:44:30
  I'm doing this. I mean, it's it, It is and and
• 1:44:34
  it's it, it really takes us all as team humanity.
• 1:44:37
  You know, we have agency, we have free will.
• 1:44:40
  Like even being a part of the divine and the separation, you
• 1:44:44
  know, the illusion of separation, You know, John
• 1:44:45
  Mackey covered that so well on episode 30.
• 1:44:47
  That's such a fun episode of Love Conquers Fear, that we are
• 1:44:53
  voting through our actions, and so I am voting for all humanity.
• 1:44:58
  You're voting for you're voting for humanity.
• 1:45:01
  This is going to. Work out I I'm. 95% certain.
• 1:45:04
  This is you are literally telling the universe, which is a
• 1:45:06
  very quantum thing. This is how it's going to work
• 1:45:08
  out. I've had, I've had, I've had
• 1:45:11
  five or six gist on. That are 100% certain and it
• 1:45:13
  works out and they lay it out really well.
• 1:45:16
  You know, Byron Reese in episode 11, he talks about the path to
• 1:45:20
  utopian and you know his book We are Gora, it looks at humanity
• 1:45:25
  and the planet is a functioning super Organism like a beehive
• 1:45:29
  that it's that it's taken care of itself.
• 1:45:33
  So it's going to be it's going to be a wild 10 to 15 years.
• 1:45:37
  I'm super excited to be on this path with you, brother.
• 1:45:39
  I love your heart and I really appreciate our friendship.
• 1:45:42
  And yeah, thank, thanks for thanks for all the ways you lift
• 1:45:46
  me up. Thank you.
• 1:45:47
  As I would say Ditto. I have no idea.
• 1:45:49
  I would have never imagined. How beautiful this friendship
• 1:45:52
  has gone and how deep it is. And also to have a, you know,
• 1:45:55
  talk about community, people, wealth, which is community.
• 1:45:58
  This is This is why when you see my heart, when you see me as my
• 1:46:02
  heart being so bright, a it's a reflection on you.
• 1:46:05
  But it's also it's because we've curated the most beautiful
• 1:46:08
  community, starting with our families and ourselves and kind
• 1:46:12
  of continuing out. There's one thing I wanted to
• 1:46:14
  say, though, that last, can I get one last thing before we
• 1:46:16
  wrap up? You know, if you're asking
• 1:46:18
  yourself if you're in the audience and you're asking
• 1:46:19
  yourself, OK, this is all Great Britain, JP or turn out some
• 1:46:22
  pretty lofty things and they've done some psychedelic journeys
• 1:46:25
  and they've had these downloads. What about, you know, the rest
• 1:46:28
  of us? I woke up this morning and it
• 1:46:30
  happens to me a lot in the morning.
• 1:46:31
  I'm not like I have a lot of dreams at night.
• 1:46:34
  And sometimes I wake up very dysregulated in the morning.
• 1:46:36
  I feel like I'm almost like not sure if I'm actually completely
• 1:46:39
  on planet Earth or if I'm back or not.
• 1:46:41
  And I feel kind of tired and my body's can be achy.
• 1:46:44
  And so I woke up kind of dysregulated today and I didn't
• 1:46:48
  want to work out. Like my body, like my brain was
• 1:46:50
  ever screaming, don't work out, don't do anything, right.
• 1:46:53
  But ironically, I have yoga on Fridays with my wife, and it's
• 1:46:56
  Yun yoga, which used to drive me crazy because Yun yoga is really
• 1:46:59
  still yoga. It's like you hold postures and
• 1:47:03
  you hold him for an hour and I was really rebelling.
• 1:47:06
  Against for a long. Time about oh, that's for my
• 1:47:08
  wife. I don't do yin yoga.
• 1:47:10
  It's just being still. And I found in that hour my I
• 1:47:16
  went from being like my mind was all over the place a little like
• 1:47:19
  I woke up. I watched a thing on YouTube
• 1:47:20
  about AI and it kind of made me nervous like it was all over the
• 1:47:24
  place a little bit like this monkey mind always needs to be
• 1:47:28
  like put back in its place and just an hour of me committing to
• 1:47:31
  a practice of you and I go with my wife just brought my brain
• 1:47:35
  back in regulation so that I can have more access to love over
• 1:47:40
  fear 'cause I kind of woke up fearful with dreams and probably
• 1:47:43
  turned up turned on YouTube so early and watched the latest
• 1:47:46
  version of what's happening. And and so my only point is like
• 1:47:49
  for all of us, it's like it doesn't have to be a, you know,
• 1:47:53
  like between the big journeys or between your realizations,
• 1:47:55
  however you find them. I'm really no for me right now,
• 1:47:59
  the biggest priority if I'm really committed to this vision
• 1:48:02
  is regulating my own body. And sometimes it's just taking
• 1:48:05
  like before a podcast now, but I, I do 6 minutes of breath work
• 1:48:09
  because I really want to be as present as possible because I
• 1:48:12
  know that if I want to really vote and weigh in, I could be
• 1:48:17
  here with you and kind of fake it.
• 1:48:19
  But I don't want to for me from my own experience, I don't want
• 1:48:22
  that for you and I don't want that for the audience because
• 1:48:24
  it's a different energy. So I'm just saying simple things
• 1:48:27
  like awareness of beauty, taking 10 minutes to breathe, box
• 1:48:31
  breathing, get a free app on the iPhone.
• 1:48:33
  I just, I do a lot of box breathing.
• 1:48:35
  Yeah. And so I know I went a little
• 1:48:37
  off, but like, no, I think I think it's important point.
• 1:48:40
  I mean, you know one of the things that I told.
• 1:48:43
  Rachel, since she was very, very young, is I said, hey, just
• 1:48:47
  witnessing a sunrise or a sunset and taking that minute or two to
• 1:48:52
  like really see the peak of beauty.
• 1:48:56
  We'll give you a day back in your life.
• 1:48:58
  I told her that when you know, it's making up to date.
• 1:49:01
  I don't know. I probably actually, it doesn't
• 1:49:02
  work out that way math wise, you know, because you're you're
• 1:49:06
  operating from a place of deep gratitude.
• 1:49:09
  And she also referenced that in her essays.
• 1:49:12
  And we're we're very, we're very college applications with
• 1:49:15
  wonderful. Yeah, wonderful.
• 1:49:17
  Families for doing great. Well, Brett, thank you so much.
• 1:49:20
  Well, I love your heart, brother.
• 1:49:21
  Love you so much so much. Man.
• 1:49:22
  Thank you. Thanks again.
• 1:49:23
  Everybody for another great episode of Love Conquers Fear.
• 1:49:28
  Really appreciate you tuning in and getting to see JP Newman's
• 1:49:32
  heart. We'll put off a billionaire and
• 1:49:34
  links to sign up to his courses in the show notes.
• 1:49:38
  You know exactly why he's doing what he's doing.
• 1:49:42
  You know that I'm doing what I'm doing here.
• 1:49:45
  Self funding it, really trying to help humanity have a heart
• 1:49:49
  shift. I'm getting daily messages about
• 1:49:53
  how it's doing that and that's the helper's high for me.
• 1:49:57
  I'm operating at my highest vibratory nature as a soul in a
• 1:50:03
  physical body and really appreciate all the shares you're
• 1:50:07
  giving out there. Keep it coming.
• 1:50:09
  Let's get the word out and create the movement where love
• 1:50:13
  conquers fear. It's up to all of us.
• 1:50:15
  Thank you.