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Golden Corral’s Improved Operations Boost Sales · Choppin’ It Up by Bloomberg Intelligence

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Chopping It Up. I'm your host, Mike Hallen,
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Speaker 1: the senior Restaurant and Food Service Analyst at Bloomberg Intelligence.
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Speaker 1: Today we're joined by Lance Chenari, the president and CEO
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Speaker 1: of Golden Corral. The fifty three year old brand is
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Speaker 1: primarily franchised with three hundred and sixty restaurants in thirty
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Speaker 1: eight states and Puerto Rico. Welcome to the pod.
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Speaker 2: Lance, Hey, thank you so much. Mike. Good to see
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Speaker 2: you again.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, man, I've been looking forward to this since we
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Speaker 1: first met you know whatever it was last month. So
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Speaker 1: let's get into it.
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Speaker 2: Man.
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Speaker 1: According to your LinkedIn profile, you've been with Golden Corral
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Speaker 1: for twenty five years. Loyalty like that. Wait, what do
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Speaker 1: we got?
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Speaker 2: Actually? Actually forty years?
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Speaker 1: Forty years, dude, That's that's incredible. I love seeing that.
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Speaker 1: Loyalty like that is so uncommon today. What initially drew
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Speaker 1: you to the brand and what's kept you there? And
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Speaker 1: you have to update your LinkedIn profile.
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Speaker 2: Fair enough, fair enough. I'm a little bit a little
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Speaker 2: behind on that. But you know, the thing about Golden
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Speaker 2: kraw what initially grew me to it was the opportunity
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Speaker 2: to grow with the company that value people first. And
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Speaker 2: that was true forty years ago, it's true fifty years
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Speaker 2: ago when our brand got started in nineteen seventy three.
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Speaker 2: It is still true today. And our beliefs and values
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Speaker 2: have stood the test of time and they are what
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Speaker 2: really helped us make decisions. So it was one of
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Speaker 2: those things that there were always other opportunities that came
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Speaker 2: along in the last forty years, and some very lucrative things,
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Speaker 2: but I never felt like it was something that was
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Speaker 2: better than what I had at Golden Corral. And when
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Speaker 2: you don't want to leave to go to something better,
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Speaker 2: why would you ever change. So that's what's kept me
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Speaker 2: here for forty years. And then you know, in all honestly,
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Speaker 2: it becomes family to you, this this group of people
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Speaker 2: who call it the GC family, And it's very much
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Speaker 2: the case that the way that we operate, the way
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Speaker 2: that we coexist as an organization is the GC family.
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Speaker 2: And and you know, we have ninety nine percent retention
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Speaker 2: in the Golden Karl support team, and which is almost
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Speaker 2: unheard of. But that's because no one ever leaves. We
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Speaker 2: hire incredibly great people. We take a long time in
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Speaker 2: making sure resource the very best of the troll but
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Speaker 2: once they join us, there's not a better opportunity out there,
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Speaker 2: so they don't leave. So we're very fortunate in that regard.
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Speaker 1: And that really came across the first time we spoke,
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Speaker 1: and that's why I wanted to get you here. Man.
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Speaker 1: That's that's fantastic. So let's go back to the pandemic. Man,
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Speaker 1: it was especially rough on buffets. CNBC in the Journal
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Speaker 1: incorrectly predicted the company's demise. Would they underestimate about Golden Corral?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, you're so right in that media as
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Speaker 2: a whole really said the buffet segment is dead and gone,
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Speaker 2: and we were being the largest, we were singled out,
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Speaker 2: and there's probably forty different articles written about us, and
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Speaker 2: multiple television financial shows that just said, Golvin Kraal, they're
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Speaker 2: dead and they're gone. You know, we that was what
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Speaker 2: they believed. That's not what we believed. And we really
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Speaker 2: thought that after all the outside advice we got and
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Speaker 2: all the reasons being told to us that we'd never
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Speaker 2: make it. What we finally decided was they don't understand
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Speaker 2: our culture that I don't understand and our people. And
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Speaker 2: it wasn't just false hope. It wasn't you know, don't
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Speaker 2: worry about what they say. We're going to win in
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Speaker 2: any way, you know, rah rah, Or that wasn't the case.
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Speaker 2: We had real time data that we said, you know,
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Speaker 2: this is the relationships that we built over the last
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Speaker 2: forty seven years at that point that we really believe
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Speaker 2: we're going to come back to pay us off in
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Speaker 2: a great way. And fortunately we were right. They underestimated
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Speaker 2: our people, they underestimated our culture, and they greatly underestimated
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Speaker 2: the good will that we had built not only with
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Speaker 2: our supplier community, but with our banks, with our landlords,
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Speaker 2: with our franchisease, and within our own self. We had
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Speaker 2: so much trust among each other that we lived each
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Speaker 2: other in the eye and we said, can we do this?
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Speaker 2: Are we going to be able to prevail or we're
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Speaker 2: going to be a sustainable restaurant company on the other
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Speaker 2: side of this, And we all we're shaking our head
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Speaker 2: in the same direction, and we said, all right, well,
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Speaker 2: let's get to work. We rolled our sleeves up twenty
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Speaker 2: four to seven for you know, a year there. That
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Speaker 2: first year of COVID was twenty four seven days and
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Speaker 2: and uh literally twenty four to seven when I say
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Speaker 2: we'd start a zoom call at that time, we'd started
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Speaker 2: on say a Tuesday, and literally three days later we'd
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Speaker 2: in the call. If you had to get off and
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Speaker 2: sleep for a few minutes or or take a quick
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Speaker 2: shower or whatever. But we had so much to do
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Speaker 2: during those time periods that it was around the plot
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Speaker 2: work and uh, but it paid off in a huge way.
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Speaker 2: I'll never ever be able to repay the team, which
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Speaker 2: is all still intact today, for the incredible effort that
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Speaker 2: they put in. And uh, you know, and it did
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Speaker 2: something to our team that galbamized our team. You know,
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Speaker 2: we've we've been through it. We've been through a cyber attack,
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Speaker 2: We've been through you know, times like now you get
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Speaker 2: the government shut down and promodities out of control and
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Speaker 2: red meat and an all time high. It's like, hey,
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Speaker 2: keep calm and carry on. We can handle this, just
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Speaker 2: like we've handled everything else. So it gave us a
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Speaker 2: sense of confidence, not false confidence. It gave us a
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Speaker 2: sense of real confidence that we're going to be able
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Speaker 2: to prevail no matter what headwinds or we're facing.
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Speaker 1: Yah, kudos to you and the team. Is a scary time.
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Speaker 1: Had to be especially scary for you and everyone at
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Speaker 1: Golden Corral with everyone talking about how buffets were done.
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Speaker 1: You know they were wrong about that. They were wrong
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Speaker 1: about ghost kitchens being the next big thing too, man,
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Speaker 1: So good job sticking sticking with it. Man. Do you
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Speaker 1: remember the particular moment when you were like, you and
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Speaker 1: the team are like, yeah, we're gonna make it.
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Speaker 2: You know. I think when we did that round table
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Speaker 2: meeting that we said, look, we're getting advice that we
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Speaker 2: need to claim bankruptcy. We're getting advice that we need
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Speaker 2: to let somebody ill handled our release liability. We're getting
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Speaker 2: advice that we need to stiff landlords and walk away
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Speaker 2: from some suppliers and some obligations that we had. When
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Speaker 2: we sat around that table and we said, that's not us,
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Speaker 2: that's not who we are. We need to do this
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Speaker 2: the right way. Our founder, James Maynard, is always about,
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Speaker 2: no matter what, at the end of the day, just
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Speaker 2: to do the right thing. And if you can do
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Speaker 2: the right thing, consistently over a long period of time,
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Speaker 2: it will always end up working out. It may not
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Speaker 2: work out the way you think, but at the end
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Speaker 2: of the day, things will work out. And so we've
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Speaker 2: had things not go our way. We had some things
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Speaker 2: that we wish you had gone differently, but at the
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Speaker 2: end of the day, we were so pleased with the
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Speaker 2: way that the response was from all of those communities.
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Speaker 2: And I think that when the franchisees really started saying, Okay,
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Speaker 2: we're going to believe you, We're going to stay in,
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Speaker 2: We're not failing, and really started rolling up their sleeves
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Speaker 2: as well, I said, all right, we're gonna We're gonna
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Speaker 2: make this. We're going to make it. Then we we
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Speaker 2: had to have some things to our way. We had
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Speaker 2: we have a saying a thousand things had to go
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Speaker 2: right and a thousand things weren't right. And thank goodness
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Speaker 2: God loves a buffaith because we were definitely blessed during
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Speaker 2: that time, there's no doubt, but we ended up on
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Speaker 2: the other side of it. I think we made the
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Speaker 2: decision that we wanted to not only survive, but we
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Speaker 2: took it as an opportunity to how can we rebuild
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Speaker 2: our company into a more sustainable, better position than what
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Speaker 2: we ever have. So we wanted to learn every weakness
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Speaker 2: that we had during COVID that was exploded. We wanted
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Speaker 2: to understand that fully and then try to put plans
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Speaker 2: together to combat those in the future and in the
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Speaker 2: event that something like this ever happened again. We wanted
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Speaker 2: to understand where every weakness was throughout the field, what
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Speaker 2: the consumer sentiment was, Why did people why were they
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Speaker 2: so nervous about Blefet's nationwide. What are the things that
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Speaker 2: triggered in their mind. We took all of that stuff
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Speaker 2: to heart and we said, I first things first, we've
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Speaker 2: got to survive. We got to sure up our cash.
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Speaker 2: We've got to make sure our balance sheets strong enough
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Speaker 2: to do to what we think we can do. And
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Speaker 2: then we had to make a lot of strategic moves.
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Speaker 2: We had to bet early that our franchisease were going
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Speaker 2: to be our growth mechanism going forward. So we didn't
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Speaker 2: take royalties for almost a year, and because we said,
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Speaker 2: you know what, We're going to do everything we can
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Speaker 2: to make sure our franchisees are healthy and are ready
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Speaker 2: to grow again. And the second thing is we said
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Speaker 2: we're going to own value early on, this was in
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Speaker 2: twenty twenty and twenty twenty one, we said, as a brand,
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Speaker 2: we have a good value equation, but we need to
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Speaker 2: own value. We need to absolutely own it in family dining.
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Speaker 2: And as we get further into the conversation, I'll tell
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Speaker 2: you some of the metrics we absolutely own value now
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Speaker 2: in family domming. And that's not our opinion, that's the
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Speaker 2: consumer sentiment opinion. So those couple of decisions made all
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Speaker 2: the difference in the world for us. And when you
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Speaker 2: combine that with us improving on every one of those weaknesses,
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Speaker 2: if you will, those opportunities that existed for our brand
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Speaker 2: and for the buffet segment as a whole, it gave
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Speaker 2: us the strength that we needed to be able to
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Speaker 2: not only survive COVID, but ultimately end up driving twenty two,
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Speaker 2: twenty three, twenty four record years for Golden Keral And
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Speaker 2: it's just it's been a phenomenal renaissance of our brand
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Speaker 2: in so many different ways.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, and you're up to an impressive four
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Speaker 1: point seven million AUV. Can you talk a little bit
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Speaker 1: more about the data and the operating metrics that you're
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Speaker 1: looking so closely at and that has helped you achieve
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Speaker 1: those record results.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, absolutely, oauvs are thirty percent higher than where
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Speaker 2: they were pre COVID, thirty percent higher than where they
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Speaker 2: were pre COVID. Our meal count average per unit, it's
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Speaker 2: the same that it was pre COVID. So yes, we
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Speaker 2: lost a ton of meals in twenty twenty. We were closed,
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Speaker 2: I mean, it wasn't an opportunity to serve, so we
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Speaker 2: were closed on twenty twenty one. We still weren't reopened
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Speaker 2: everywhere as far as buffets, we're concerned. We were trying
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Speaker 2: all these different you know models until municipalities or health
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Speaker 2: departments would allow us to finally start serving. So it
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Speaker 2: was mid twenty twenty one before we finally got every
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Speaker 2: restaurant back to the buffet format. So we were down
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Speaker 2: on meals during you know, a love those times. We've
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Speaker 2: regained all of that, all that momentum that we lost
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Speaker 2: during that rough period, and we're back to meal counts
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Speaker 2: that we had in twenty nineteen on an average unit
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Speaker 2: volume store. So so we're we're really excited about that.
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Speaker 2: We're you know, I'm not going to say this year
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Speaker 2: is we're down a little bit in meal count, but
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Speaker 2: We're not anicked about it because we know we look
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Speaker 2: at it on a two year span and we had
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Speaker 2: such phenomenal growth and twenty two three, twenty four being
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Speaker 2: down just a little bit this year, we're still ahead
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Speaker 2: of where we were two or three years ago. So
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Speaker 2: I still feel really great about our trajectory. I feel
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Speaker 2: great about where the financials are. Our gross margin in
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Speaker 2: our restaurants this year twenty five, despite the commodities, despite
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Speaker 2: the rising labor costs, our gross margin is the highest
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Speaker 2: it's ever been in our fifty two and a half
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Speaker 2: year at history. So our franchisees are are in a
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Speaker 2: great position. And this is what's really cool, Mike, is
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Speaker 2: that we we made that decision to own value. So
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Speaker 2: we're in a position now where we were parody with
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Speaker 2: Family Dining on a ticket average basis, we're now three
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Speaker 2: dollars and twenty three cents below Family Dining.
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Speaker 1: Wow.
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Speaker 2: The way we did that is we focused on every
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Speaker 2: area of the P and L so that we ran
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Speaker 2: the best possible food costs, the best possible labor, the
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Speaker 2: most efficient productivity that we could run, and we even
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Speaker 2: got into our controllable costs with our franchisees. Things like you,
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Speaker 2: chilly management, pay for goods, management, insurance management, whatever it was,
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Speaker 2: that we could save a dollar and not take anything
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Speaker 2: away from our guests, not cut quality, but save a
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Speaker 2: dollar in any way that we possibly could so that
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Speaker 2: we didn't have to take it on the top and
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Speaker 2: pass it on to our customer. And with time and
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Speaker 2: time again we were able to do that through the
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Speaker 2: last four years. We would have gone up two percent
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Speaker 2: and ticket this year and you know what the industry's doing.
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Speaker 2: Our ticket average at dinner is only up two percent
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Speaker 2: this year. So that's why we're winning on the price side.
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Speaker 2: But we'd also don't define value just in price. As
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Speaker 2: we were talking earlier, I really believe that you have
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Speaker 2: to define value on a much broader scope than just frights.
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Speaker 2: You have to give the guests something that exceeds their
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Speaker 2: expectations when they walk through the front door. You better
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Speaker 2: be the cleanest restaurant they've ever walked in. You better
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Speaker 2: have out with the top service and hospitality, and you
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Speaker 2: better make sure that you're in irrelevant facility that's clean
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Speaker 2: and well maintained, and that the guest feels comfortable in.
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Speaker 2: Those are almost table stakes today. So when a guest
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Speaker 2: is considering value. They're thinking about more than just Christ.
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Speaker 2: They're thinking about where can I go that I today's
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Speaker 2: hard earned dollars. My money is hard to come by,
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Speaker 2: So if I'm going to give it to gold in Corral,
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Speaker 2: I'm better be able to trust them to deliver an
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Speaker 2: experience that meets or exceeds my expectations every single time.
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Speaker 2: And that's not on the guests. That's on us. We
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Speaker 2: better make sure that we understand what their expectations were.
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Speaker 2: We better be listening very closely to those customers and
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Speaker 2: what they want, what they need, and deliver all of
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Speaker 2: that plus a little bit more. And so that's the
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Speaker 2: way that we think about how we deliver value. It's
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Speaker 2: not just price, it's across the whole equation of the
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Speaker 2: guest experience.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, what you get for what you pay. We've seen
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Speaker 1: Casual Dining focus pretty strongly on operations since having a
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Speaker 1: tough twenty twenty four, and they've bounced back a little
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Speaker 1: bit this year. So it's good to see some of
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Speaker 1: the chains we cover getting back to basics. What operational
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Speaker 1: improvements are you currently working on now?
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Speaker 2: I think it's a great question, because, as I said earlier,
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Speaker 2: there are some of those weaknesses that were glaring, if
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Speaker 2: you will, I want to guess we're thinking about buffet dining,
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Speaker 2: and they tended to center around commonness. That was an
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Speaker 2: achilles heel for the buffet segment. And when you think
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Speaker 2: about commonness in a buffet setting, the reason it's always
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Speaker 2: a problem for us is that people are constantly up
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Speaker 2: and moving around our restaurant with plates full of food.
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Speaker 2: We feed families, little kids are running around with plates,
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Speaker 2: and they're spilling things all the time. So inherently of
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Speaker 2: a face segment has a cleanliness achilles heel that has
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Speaker 2: hung out. You know what, that's not the guests problem,
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Speaker 2: that's our problem. So it was up to us to
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Speaker 2: fix that. And we said, you know, during COVID in particular,
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Speaker 2: we went through the extremes of making sure that people
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Speaker 2: felt safe dining in our restaurants, that they felt safe
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Speaker 2: from a food safety and sanitation. So we had all
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Speaker 2: these extremes that we were going through, and we said,
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Speaker 2: you know what, the guest is reacting so positively to this.
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Speaker 2: We've got to make this permanent. We've got to do
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Speaker 2: things that are over the top, overtly telling our guests
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Speaker 2: that this is a sanitary environment. It's a clean environment
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Speaker 2: that you're going to love when you're dining with us,
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Speaker 2: because we're not going to have any of those negative
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Speaker 2: marks when it comes to your you know, old time
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Speaker 2: thinking of what buffets were. And so we're working on
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Speaker 2: all these fundliness initiatives and then one day I was
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Speaker 2: I was actually on a site visit and I stopped
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Speaker 2: in a BUCkies that was next to this site that
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Speaker 2: we were going to look at. Perfect teams from the store,
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Speaker 2: and I went in and they had the signage up about,
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Speaker 2: you know, the cleanest restrooms in the world, and you know,
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Speaker 2: they are so proud of that. I walked in and
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Speaker 2: I looked at their restrooms and they are. They're phenomenal.
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Speaker 2: They do a fantastic job on that. And I came
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Speaker 2: back to our team and I said, you know what,
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Speaker 2: that just puts a hay little effect around the entire
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Speaker 2: operation at BUCkies. Why can't we be known for the
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Speaker 2: cleanest restaurant bathrooms and the entire industry? And so we
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Speaker 2: put an initiative together. Our bathroom scores have gone through
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Speaker 2: the roof. They're way above industry average now, and we
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Speaker 2: measured that particular metric it's something that we think we're
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Speaker 2: never going to stop working on this. It's something that
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Speaker 2: we think puts a halo around the clembingness scores in
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Speaker 2: our restaurants, but our clumbing the scores typically we're ten
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Speaker 2: points behind family dining. We now leave family dining. According
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Speaker 2: to black SMG Technomics data. The restaurant clumbing the scores
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Speaker 2: have gone up exponentially over the last few years. And
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Speaker 2: we're not done. We've got work to do. We still,
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Speaker 2: you know, have our bottom twenty percent that we've got
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Speaker 2: a laser focus in on those restaurants that aren't at
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Speaker 2: the same levels the rest of them are, and so
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Speaker 2: we've got great room for this to even get stronger
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Speaker 2: and stronger. But we eventually will be known for the
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Speaker 2: cleanest restaurants in the entire restaurant industry.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, hearkens back to the Howard Johnson's days.
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Speaker 2: Man, that's absolutely I love it.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I love it. And it's so smart too
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Speaker 1: to focus on it, because I will never forget those videos.
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Speaker 1: I think it was on like the Nightly News or
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Speaker 1: something during the pandemic when they were showing how germs
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Speaker 1: can spread at a buffet.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely, that was so difficult for us because and that's
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Speaker 2: what really put us behind the curve is because all
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Speaker 2: those videos and the cruise ships and the Vegas buffets
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Speaker 2: and the science was wrong. It wasn't shared surfaces, it
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Speaker 2: was airborne behind COVID, but it didn't matter. The damage
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Speaker 2: was done, and our guest mind, it was like, what
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Speaker 2: are you going to do to make it safe for
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Speaker 2: me to dine in a buffet again? So we've had
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Speaker 2: to go over the top. And it's okay because the
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Speaker 2: whole perception of Golden Kral our consumer centiment has gone
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Speaker 2: through the root. Our net promoter SCOR is up eighteen points,
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Speaker 2: eighteen points. The folks that do our measurements for I
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Speaker 2: asked them to go back and recheck because they told
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Speaker 2: me that we've never seen this kind of an increase.
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Speaker 2: And so when we said, you know what, go back
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Speaker 2: and rerun the numbers. Make sure that before we start,
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Speaker 2: you know, really getting excited about this, make sure that
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Speaker 2: we really understand that these numbers are correct. And it
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Speaker 2: had to do with us maintaining variety, maintaining quality, and
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Speaker 2: this massive improvement and the commonness perceptions of our restaurant.
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Speaker 2: And then we tied all of that around with value.
20:35
Speaker 2: The consumer's opinion of Golden Corral has just launched this
20:39
Speaker 2: renaissance of our brand over the last four years. That
20:42
Speaker 2: it's just I think I've told you before, we feel
20:46
Speaker 2: like we kind of captured lightning in a bottle and
20:48
Speaker 2: we don't want to take the lid off, So we're
20:50
Speaker 2: figuring out everything we can do to maintain that type
20:53
Speaker 2: of momentum.
20:55
Speaker 1: I love it. I love it. So there's been some
20:58
Speaker 1: concern around those coveted gen Y and gen Z consumers. Uh,
21:03
Speaker 1: you know, Chipotle was talking about how, you know, some
21:07
Speaker 1: of that anecdotal stuff that's out there that they're they're
21:10
Speaker 1: having a tough time finding jobs. But our friends at
21:13
Speaker 1: our mess and restaurant inside Monitor as well have data
21:18
Speaker 1: is showing that you know, they've they're ready, they're ready
21:21
Speaker 1: to keep spending. So you know, how are you doing?
21:25
Speaker 1: What do you with those cohorts? What are you seeing
21:27
Speaker 1: out of them right now?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I think it's up to us to
21:31
Speaker 2: go find where they are right now, and we're doing
21:35
Speaker 2: that partially tough marketing. We're we're taking different avenues than
21:40
Speaker 2: we historically have ever taken. You know, we're on electronic
21:45
Speaker 2: media TV, if you will, about thirty weeks a year. Historically,
21:52
Speaker 2: we've never got deep into social media, geopens and digital
21:57
Speaker 2: avertising off premas, all those areas that those particular generational
22:04
Speaker 2: groups are really that's where they reside, that's how they
22:07
Speaker 2: think about the business. And so when we're trying to
22:12
Speaker 2: grow across all generational genres, it's really important to us
22:20
Speaker 2: to make sure that we're very intentional about reaching out
22:23
Speaker 2: to different age groups. So if it's social media, if
22:29
Speaker 2: it's a particular demographic, we reach out specifically to Hispanics
22:34
Speaker 2: who have drawn back a lot in the restaurant dining
22:38
Speaker 2: right now. We built a big business with the Latino group,
22:44
Speaker 2: and with all the immigration issues, ice issues going on
22:48
Speaker 2: right now, they've drawn back and it has affected our business.
22:53
Speaker 2: The restaurants that are heavily Hispanic more than thirty percent
22:58
Speaker 2: in their trade area, those russants are down six to
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Speaker 2: one versus the rest of our system. If you've separated
23:04
Speaker 2: out the group, we're up in the remainder of the system.
23:07
Speaker 2: The restaurants that are in the heaviest manitaries are actually
23:10
Speaker 2: down right now, but we don't use that as an excuse.
23:14
Speaker 2: We're going and finding ways to talk to that group.
23:17
Speaker 2: We're making sure that it's not dubbed commercials, that it's bilingual,
23:22
Speaker 2: you know, people that are actually speaking in their language.
23:26
Speaker 2: We advertise on shows that are important to them. So
23:31
Speaker 2: we're being very intentional about all the different groups that
23:34
Speaker 2: we're going to and that we want in our restaurants.
23:38
Speaker 2: Our tagline is We're the only one for everyone. So
23:42
Speaker 2: if you think about it, every generational group, every demographic
23:47
Speaker 2: can find something that they love at Golden Frau. We
23:50
Speaker 2: have one hundred and sixty items out every day, most
23:52
Speaker 2: of them made from scratch. We have regional minimes options
23:56
Speaker 2: across the country. Almost everyone can find that something. If
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Speaker 2: you want to eat healthy, if you want to indulge,
24:02
Speaker 2: if you want to do a do an all approaching diet,
24:06
Speaker 2: knock yourself out at Golden Crowd because we can do it.
24:09
Speaker 2: We can do it. We can please every single one
24:11
Speaker 2: of those. So I think when these groups are are
24:15
Speaker 2: looking for what fits their diet, we can accommodate what
24:20
Speaker 2: fits their pocketbook. And if they're out of work, hey
24:26
Speaker 2: we're better to go. You're still going to dine out.
24:29
Speaker 2: Those customers are still dining now, maybe not as freequil late.
24:33
Speaker 2: Maybe they're not spending as much as they were, but
24:36
Speaker 2: when they do dine out, they're going to go places
24:38
Speaker 2: they trust and where everyone can find something that they
24:41
Speaker 2: like and that fits us perfectly.
24:43
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know you've you've got some interesting ways to
24:47
Speaker 1: deal with inflation, right because it's a buffet and people
24:50
Speaker 1: can pick whatever they want. Can you talk about some
24:52
Speaker 1: of the things that you've been doing to help manage
24:54
Speaker 1: food costs?
24:55
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, it's an important part for us because you know,
24:59
Speaker 2: food cost is obviously our single biggest line at them
25:02
Speaker 2: in our restaurants and being in the all you go
25:06
Speaker 2: to eat format. So what we can't do, first of
25:11
Speaker 2: all is take away the expensive stuff because that's part
25:15
Speaker 2: of the value equation. Right. So we still have the
25:17
Speaker 2: same shrimp on the bar that we've always had, We
25:20
Speaker 2: still are serving Redney, we still have all Ethneatus fresh
25:24
Speaker 2: handcut serlin stakes every day. It's all still part of
25:28
Speaker 2: our menu. But what we can do that Knox two
25:33
Speaker 2: Birds out Look on Stone is, first of all, we
25:37
Speaker 2: can continue to serve those things and make sure they're
25:40
Speaker 2: front and center, but we can add additional things that
25:44
Speaker 2: are very feeling to guess and even though they're expensive,
25:48
Speaker 2: if they're less than five dollars and fifty cents, sirline,
25:51
Speaker 2: it's still a win for us. So we're getting ready
25:54
Speaker 2: to add these big, beautiful Argentine shrimp under our bar.
26:00
Speaker 2: We've got a promotion coming up. We're getting ready to
26:02
Speaker 2: introduce lobster. It's a small lad on to the buffet,
26:07
Speaker 2: but it's such a value play and it's going to
26:10
Speaker 2: be less expensive than what any competition out there can do.
26:15
Speaker 2: So it adds value, it exceeds guests to expectations. But
26:20
Speaker 2: it also helps us with food costs when we can
26:23
Speaker 2: do those kind of things, and so we call them mitigators.
26:27
Speaker 2: We add mitigators to our bar. So you would typically think,
26:31
Speaker 2: well that food cost is high, the buffet needs to
26:35
Speaker 2: draw back and pull a few proteins off of the bar.
26:37
Speaker 2: We're just the opposite. We want to add proteins to
26:40
Speaker 2: the bar because if we can have them take a
26:43
Speaker 2: little less stay and a little more of something else
26:46
Speaker 2: that they still love, and that may be something that
26:49
Speaker 2: even exceeds their expectations, like these beautiful shuniper add a
26:54
Speaker 2: finance lobster tail for an unbelievable price that I can't
26:58
Speaker 2: this cloase yet, but we're we're working on and all
27:02
Speaker 2: of those things help us run one really great food
27:07
Speaker 2: cost numbers and that like I said, our gross margin
27:10
Speaker 2: is not the problem. Our gross margin is the highest
27:13
Speaker 2: it's ever been and it's not just through price. So
27:17
Speaker 2: we really are life in our position right now.
27:21
Speaker 1: It's very cool and Golden Corral has long been a
27:24
Speaker 1: supporter of active military veterans and their families, and I
27:28
Speaker 1: know that's something you're very proud of. What are some
27:30
Speaker 1: of the ways that chain gives back to this community.
27:33
Speaker 2: Well, it's always been part of our belief and value
27:36
Speaker 2: system to support the communities that we operate in and
27:40
Speaker 2: to give back. We believe that it's not a bad word.
27:43
Speaker 2: Profit is not a bad word. We want to make
27:46
Speaker 2: great profit, but what we do with that profit is
27:49
Speaker 2: really important to us, and that's given back to the
27:51
Speaker 2: communities that we operate in into our country as a whole.
27:55
Speaker 2: So we've chosen we want to absolutely be umber one
28:00
Speaker 2: place when the military of the United States thinks about
28:04
Speaker 2: who supports us, and so from that standpoint, we have
28:09
Speaker 2: three major campaigns a year. In the spring, we have
28:12
Speaker 2: our own camp out Camp Corral, and we've sent over
28:17
Speaker 2: thirty thousand kids to camp over the last fifteen years.
28:20
Speaker 2: This is our fifteenth year anniversary of Camp Corral and
28:24
Speaker 2: we're the founding sponsor of that camp and we've got
28:27
Speaker 2: some tremendous partners, the largest being dav that partners with
28:32
Speaker 2: us in this. But today we raised about twenty million
28:36
Speaker 2: dollars to send these kids to camp, and it's something
28:39
Speaker 2: that we feel like is ours. You know, we were
28:43
Speaker 2: great supporters before of several different national non profit organizations
28:51
Speaker 2: that do wonderful work, and we still think they're fantastic,
28:54
Speaker 2: but it wasn't something that our franchisees, that our ownership at,
28:59
Speaker 2: our people within the support center could really say, you
29:02
Speaker 2: know what, that's something that's ours. And so that's where
29:05
Speaker 2: Camp Corral was evolved from and we're excited about it.
29:10
Speaker 2: We send about free to thirty five hundred kids a
29:13
Speaker 2: summer to camp twenty two camps across the country. It's
29:17
Speaker 2: just phenomenal, phenomenal camp and it makes such a difference
29:19
Speaker 2: in these kids' lives. We've been able to partner with
29:22
Speaker 2: some great universities, most recently PUMPS that is doing research
29:27
Speaker 2: on the effect that has on these kids long term
29:30
Speaker 2: and the change in their lives is phenomenal. So it's
29:34
Speaker 2: great from the standpoint the kids have a week of
29:37
Speaker 2: a lifetime, but it's even better because it changes the
29:41
Speaker 2: trajectory of their life and that's what's really meaningful. Then
29:44
Speaker 2: in the summer, we partner with Project Hitting Waters and
29:47
Speaker 2: it's something that my daughter serves as a trustee on
29:50
Speaker 2: their board. I'm on their advisory council called the Founder Circle,
29:55
Speaker 2: and their primary mission is working with recently disabled their
30:00
Speaker 2: or fallen are not falling, but recently disabled, active or
30:05
Speaker 2: retired military. It started at Walter Reed. Now it's nationwide
30:10
Speaker 2: and it worked does some fantastic work in preventing veteran suicide.
30:15
Speaker 2: And it's done through fly fishing, which I'm a flyfisher one,
30:19
Speaker 2: so it is a natural fit. But we're really excited
30:22
Speaker 2: about the future of that. This is our first year
30:25
Speaker 2: to partner nationally with them, and we're looking forward to
30:29
Speaker 2: that long relationship going forward. And then in the fall,
30:33
Speaker 2: we work with the dav And through our Military Appreciation
30:36
Speaker 2: Night and we've been doing This is our twenty fifth
30:39
Speaker 2: anniversary of doing this. We've served almost seven million free
30:44
Speaker 2: meals to veterans. We've raised over twenty million dollars for
30:48
Speaker 2: the dav and so it's just an incredible three from
30:54
Speaker 2: approach almost all year long, we've got something going for
30:57
Speaker 2: the military. In that get, we raised over forty million dollars,
31:03
Speaker 2: fed millions of free meals, and we've changed the lives
31:06
Speaker 2: of military children then. So we're very honored to do
31:11
Speaker 2: that work. We feel like it's our responsibility to do
31:14
Speaker 2: that work. Without our minimum moment of the military, we
31:17
Speaker 2: wouldn't have the country to operate in, so we owe
31:20
Speaker 2: everything we had to them.
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Speaker 1: That's awesome, man. So you have any fly fishing trips
31:24
Speaker 1: lined up or what I do.
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Speaker 2: We're already working on a trip lined up for the
31:29
Speaker 2: Green River in Utah through the Flaming Gorge area, and
31:33
Speaker 2: it's it's gorgeous. It's hard to fly fish there because
31:37
Speaker 2: it's such beautiful country, but it's one of my favorite
31:40
Speaker 2: places in the country to fish. And but I mean,
31:44
Speaker 2: they can go to the mountains of North Carolina and
31:45
Speaker 2: be happy. I mean, I'll just love flatfish, so it
31:48
Speaker 2: makes it a lot of fun.
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Speaker 1: I've only been once in Sun Valley and it was
31:52
Speaker 1: an abbreviated session, but it was awesome.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I fished Sun Valley before. It's it's great to
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Speaker 2: the fish at their smaller streams that not the big
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Speaker 2: rivers like you see in Wyoming or Montana or even
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Speaker 2: in Utah. But it's still beautiful and it's fun to fish.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, Lance here the man. Thanks for doing this. Hey,
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