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The Jesse Ventura They Don't Want You To See Pt. 2: Area 51 · Conspiracy! The Show

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  Speaker 1: W inurance.
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  Speaker 2: I'm a check the adult. Hey, everybody, welcome to Conspiracy
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  Speaker 2: the Show. I'm Adam Todd Brown and.
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  Speaker 1: I'm Olivia Haidar and.
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  Speaker 2: We're your hosts. Yay, Olivia. How's it going? You know,
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  Speaker 2: not bad, not bad.
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  Speaker 1: Can't complain.
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  Speaker 2: You must be very excited to be digging back in.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, two absolutely, episode two of the Jesse Ventura
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  Speaker 2: they don't want you to see.
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  Speaker 1: This is this is what the government has kept from
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  Speaker 1: you with government in Amazon doc.
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  Speaker 2: What is the government hiding? You're gonna find out as
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  Speaker 2: we delve into I can't wait till we get to
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  Speaker 2: episode four, that's the police State episode that he got
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  Speaker 2: sued over.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm looking forward to that one. I'm just wondering,
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  Speaker 1: is I wonder if there's gonna be like some really
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  Speaker 1: salacious shit about Amazon in this and that's why it's
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  Speaker 1: not available on Prime video.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that would be funny. I could see that. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: there's also we need to track down the Harp episode.
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  Speaker 2: That one, yeah, for some reason is unavailable too. Harp
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  Speaker 2: is a very interesting yeah theory.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's weird. It's a weird one, but I definitely, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I should check out the like, you know, kind of
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  Speaker 1: seedier internet places and see if it's out there.
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  Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure that episode is probably on Daily Motion too.
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  Speaker 2: It seems like, Yeah, it seems like that is the
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  Speaker 2: body of water that all of this stuff eventually flows
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  Speaker 2: to when it can't be found anywhere else before you
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  Speaker 2: have to go to I don't even remember the name
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  Speaker 2: of the site that we found the My Pillow Guy
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  Speaker 2: documentary on.
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  Speaker 1: Jesus fucking rumble. It was something like that. It was
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  Speaker 1: some fucking Nazi site. I fucking that was so awful
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  Speaker 1: to have that in my fucking search history.
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  Speaker 2: Oh the things we do for you listeners.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my god. Yeah, I had blocked out that how
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  Speaker 1: terrible that website was.
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  Speaker 2: So this time around season two, Episode two, S two
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  Speaker 2: e two, if you will, of course, this time they're
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  Speaker 2: talking about area fifty one, which again very surprised that
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  Speaker 2: it took this long to get to Area fifty one.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, this is such a huge one. But I think
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  Speaker 1: the problem is, and this is how he opens the episode,
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  Speaker 1: and it blew my mind, is he opens the episode
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  Speaker 1: by being like, I've never really believed in Little Green Men.
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  Speaker 1: I've never been He like, I can't it's just wild
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  Speaker 1: that he doesn't believe in aliens. Of everything that he does,
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  Speaker 1: He's the most fucking gullible man on the face of
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  Speaker 1: the planet. He's so credulous. He doesn't believe in aliens, though.
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  Speaker 2: And it seems like that changes by the end of
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  Speaker 2: this episode.
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  Speaker 1: Well, of course it does. He talks to people who
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  Speaker 1: tell him something, and so of course he's like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: well that does that must be true because you told
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  Speaker 1: me it, and.
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  Speaker 2: I swear we covered an episode where they went to
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  Speaker 2: Area fifty one, right, wasn't that where they were when
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  Speaker 2: the they brought that spirit animal woman who started frolicking
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  Speaker 2: around about how they weren't going to make her go
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  Speaker 2: in those holes?
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  Speaker 1: That I might not have been on that That might
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  Speaker 1: have been one of the ones that I was away for.
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  Speaker 2: Oh what was it.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know because I don't remember that. I definitely would.
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  Speaker 1: Oh I think Jeff was on that episode, Yeah, because
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  Speaker 1: I know that. Yeah, I know that Jeff covered like
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  Speaker 1: the Reptilians one yeah, another one, so it must have been.
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  Speaker 2: Oh that's where they where they were at the entrance
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  Speaker 2: to the Reptilian.
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  Speaker 1: Layer, of course, which is of course in Groom Lake.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and obviously it's just going to be a hole
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  Speaker 2: in the ground that anyone could walk into if they
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  Speaker 2: were curious enough. Weird, So yeah, they they they're going
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  Speaker 2: to Area fifty one for real this time. And Jesse's
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  Speaker 2: putting his life on the line on this sis. They
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  Speaker 2: say that right up front. Yeah, the governor is risking
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  Speaker 2: it all for you, America's he's risking it all by
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  Speaker 2: going to basically a boundary that as long as you're
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  Speaker 2: on one side of it, it seems like you're fine.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you're totally allowed, You're allowed to chill. People go
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  Speaker 1: there all the.
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  Speaker 2: Time, and it seems like, yeah place, probably a lot
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  Speaker 2: of people go yeah, because there's no way you're gonna
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  Speaker 2: as the government just stop people from showing up to look.
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  Speaker 1: Of course, well no, and like there has to be
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  Speaker 1: a boundary to the secret territory. That's just how like
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  Speaker 1: they can't take over, Like if there was no boundary,
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  Speaker 1: it would eventually, you know, engulf everything.
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  Speaker 2: Bothers me about that part where he says that the
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  Speaker 2: governor's putting his life on the line. There's this automatic
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  Speaker 2: assumption that if you cross that line, they are immediately
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  Speaker 2: going to shoot you, right, but not necessarily, No, not
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  Speaker 2: necessarily just come down. And uh, I mean here's the thing.
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  Speaker 2: It might be for the best if they shoot you,
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  Speaker 2: because what if they come down and you're like, you
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  Speaker 2: really want to see what we're doing in here? Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you want to know about the hybrids?
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  Speaker 2: Well, okay, get ready to hell you goat legs for arms?
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  Speaker 1: Oh no, not the goat legs for arms. That would
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  Speaker 1: be so much worse. A reverse sator that would be awful.
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  Speaker 2: No more opposable thumbs for you, governor.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, Like, they probably wouldn't immediately kill you. They
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  Speaker 1: would probably start off by terrifying you by shouting at
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  Speaker 1: you on a megaphone. Yeah, and then they might like
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  Speaker 1: do some sort of like sound wave cannon or directed
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  Speaker 1: energy thing that would just like deter you, and then
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  Speaker 1: they would probably kill you.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. That was always my thing about the storm area
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  Speaker 2: fifty one thing. When people are like they can't shoot
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  Speaker 2: us all at once, it's like shit, yeah, get ready
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  Speaker 2: to die by alien technology, dummies.
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  Speaker 1: This is the US government, even if they're not using
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  Speaker 1: alien technology, like, this is the United States military. They
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  Speaker 1: will absolutely destroy you, guys.
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  Speaker 2: It's the desert. They will drop a nuke if they
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  Speaker 2: need to do it out there all the time. So
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  Speaker 2: his first meeting takes place at a truck stop in Nevada,
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  Speaker 2: which is where I think most of his meetings on
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  Speaker 2: this take place.
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  Speaker 1: There's a lot of them at yeah stops. It opens
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  Speaker 1: with this this guy who's pretty.
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  Speaker 2: Fun, which, after this long don't don't truck stops have
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  Speaker 2: to be one of the least safe places to have
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  Speaker 2: meetings like this, because all anyone ever talks about is, well,
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  Speaker 2: let's meet at a truck stop, right, it's probably like
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  Speaker 2: highway patrol there, and yeah, that's capably I think that's
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  Speaker 2: serial killers.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. I think that's part of it though, is that
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  Speaker 1: it's like public I don't know, Yeah, who knows, you know.
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  Speaker 1: It's also it seems like this guy might live in
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  Speaker 1: a semi truck, so I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: The guy in question is Chuck Clark, Yes, and he's
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  Speaker 2: on the run from the government, which no, you're not.
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  Speaker 1: No, he's absolutely not on the run from the government.
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  Speaker 1: If he was on the run from the government, then
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  Speaker 1: he is the absolute dumbest man on earth because he's
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  Speaker 1: on the run from the government. So he goes on
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  Speaker 1: a nationally aired TV show like sure, probably not everyone
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  Speaker 1: watches it, but still.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, a TV show that when it comes to town,
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  Speaker 2: every government official in the area is going to be notified.
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  Speaker 1: Well because Jesse Ventura is going to go to their
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  Speaker 1: offices and notify them. That's just his vibe.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, this would be highly risky if he was
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  Speaker 2: definitely or actually on the 're on from the government.
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  Speaker 2: He's an amateur astronomer who used to live near Area
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  Speaker 2: fifty one. Oh, so he's got the credentials, right, And
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  Speaker 2: also I see how the government could never nab him,
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  Speaker 2: Like what you live near? They could just take you. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: they could just expand Area fifty one to include your
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  Speaker 2: fucking house.
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  Speaker 1: Like you think that they don't know every fucking thing
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  Speaker 1: about every single person who lives within a fifty mile
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  Speaker 1: radius of that border. Yeah, honestly, man.
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  Speaker 2: He says they're developing the latest cutting edge technology that
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  Speaker 2: they don't want anyone to know about. And here's the
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  Speaker 2: thing that's not that controversial to me.
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  Speaker 1: No, probably I think that's the general like in if
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  Speaker 1: it's doing anything out of the ordinary and it's not
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  Speaker 1: just like a regular air force base, that's probably what
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  Speaker 1: it is. That's what makes the most sense.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know where people are expecting the government
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  Speaker 2: to test its new technologies at like it shows, Like
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  Speaker 2: what are you expecting? They're not going to be.
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  Speaker 1: Public about that exactly. It's secret right, Like again, like
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to defend the government, but like, just
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  Speaker 1: from a logical standpoint, if you're doing something and you
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  Speaker 1: have enemies around the world who would like to know
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  Speaker 1: what you're doing in order to get an advantage over you, you're
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  Speaker 1: probably gonna be pretty secretive about that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and yeah, there is there are a lot of
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  Speaker 2: moments in this where I'm kind of on the government side.
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  Speaker 1: It's so weird. It's so they put us in such
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  Speaker 1: a weird position on this show.
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  Speaker 2: He like he talks about how the FBI raided his
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  Speaker 2: house and the implication is that it happened for no
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  Speaker 2: good reason. Yeah, but then later on we find out
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  Speaker 2: that there are these sensors in the ground that like
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  Speaker 2: monitor if someone crosses a certain boundary, then it's right,
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  Speaker 2: Like the government knows they need to head to the
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  Speaker 2: and this maniac dug them up out of the ground.
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  Speaker 2: You think the government's not going to come over to
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  Speaker 2: your area fifty one shack and ask you some questions.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, shit, if I like fucking stole a security
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  Speaker 1: camera from the local National Guard base, they'd probably pay
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  Speaker 1: me a visit, Like yeah, jesus, Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: But they play it off like, well, it's on public land.
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  Speaker 2: No it's not.
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  Speaker 1: It's on government land exactly. It's like, not everything that
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  Speaker 1: is owned by the government is accessible to any average person.
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  Speaker 1: You can't dig up government property. And again I'm not
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  Speaker 1: defending the government, but like that makes sense.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you have to be fair when exactly kind of
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  Speaker 2: that is the problem with a lot of conspiracy theory podcasts,
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  Speaker 2: and I think it's the problem a lot of conspiracy
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  Speaker 2: theory podcast listeners have with this podcast. Yeah, is that
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  Speaker 2: like not everything is is as crazy as it sounds.
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  Speaker 1: Like, right, Well that again, we kind of talked about
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  Speaker 1: this a little bit in the last episode. But like
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  Speaker 1: every person that they have on here immediately jumps to
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  Speaker 1: the most extreme negative interpretation of literally every event in
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  Speaker 1: their life. Basically. Yeah, and so he doesn't like to him,
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  Speaker 1: like he doesn't see the chain of logic, and he's
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  Speaker 1: some random kai taking up military censors and that might
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  Speaker 1: be why the FBI was curious about him.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, like you know, shit, man, you know, there is
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  Speaker 2: a lot of infrastructure in this country related to like
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  Speaker 2: the power grid in things. Yeah, that is technically on
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  Speaker 2: public land, Like you can walk up to it, but
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  Speaker 2: it's got a fence around it. And if you jump
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  Speaker 2: that fence and go in and start digging around, if
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  Speaker 2: someone's gonna show up and give you the what for exactly?
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  Speaker 1: This is not like, this is not even exclusive to
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  Speaker 1: Area fifty one at all. Yeah, this is just the
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  Speaker 1: thing that happens. Like if you fuck with the government.
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  Speaker 2: Why do you lock your dumpsters? People don't use them man,
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  Speaker 2: So June Sarpong, it's time for a team meeting. We
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  Speaker 2: need a sound effect for when the team meetings start,
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  Speaker 2: would like the law and order done June star Pong.
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  Speaker 2: In this team meeting, she breaks out the jump to conclusions.
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  Speaker 2: Matt is seen in office space and says, if the
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  Speaker 2: government is hiding something at Area fifty one, it is aliens, right.
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  Speaker 1: So she's seen it in movies, so it must be that. Like,
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  Speaker 1: there's no other explanation for that leap.
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  Speaker 2: So she she decides to drive off to Area fifty
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  Speaker 2: one to talk to a source.
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  Speaker 1: Hmmmm, mysterious. I wonder who this source could be.
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  Speaker 2: Meanwhile, the skeptic Daniel, who I swear I've never seen
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  Speaker 2: on a single episode up until now.
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  Speaker 1: Who the fuck was this guy? Is Alex Sick?
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  Speaker 2: Maybe Alex morphed into him during the Reptilians episode.
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  Speaker 1: Wow, yeah, the most ineffective shape shifter. He just shifted
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  Speaker 1: into another white guy like who just kind of looks
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  Speaker 1: like him.
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  Speaker 2: This this new new skeptic Daniel.
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  Speaker 1: They just act like he's been there the whole time.
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  Speaker 1: It's so weird.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, it's like when the Fresh Prince of bel
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  Speaker 2: Air changed Viv's mid stream and was like, you don't notice,
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  Speaker 2: you don't even notice. The He goes to talk to
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  Speaker 2: Clifford Clift of moufan the Mutual UFO Network, which I'm
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  Speaker 2: pretty sure in and of itself is a government of
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  Speaker 2: some sort like that shits. Maybe it's been around since
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  Speaker 2: UFOs have been in the news.
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  Speaker 1: I mean absolutely, But like again, these like these are
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  Speaker 1: like hobbyists. They're not experts, right, They're just people who
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  Speaker 1: like UFOs, Like I could join moufon. Like I'm not anybody,
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  Speaker 1: but I like UFOs. Maybe let's let's apply.
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  Speaker 2: I wonder if there's a business.
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  Speaker 1: I bet they got a website membership.
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  Speaker 2: That we can get I want to get everyone in
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  Speaker 2: the network moofon memberships.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, we should. That should be a Patreon tier. Yeah,
• 14:21
  Speaker 1: the moufon membership. We can donate members log in. There's
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  Speaker 1: a members logging on the website, so that implies that
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  Speaker 1: we can join this group.
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  Speaker 2: I wonder if we have to see a UFO like
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  Speaker 2: they come to us.
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  Speaker 1: We don't go to them, No, we just have to
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  Speaker 1: like say that we've seen a UFO and they'll be like, okay, sure, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's it.
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  Speaker 2: So Clifford is pretty sure the government's keeping UFOs at
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  Speaker 2: area fifty one. He says, maybe a dozen.
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  Speaker 1: Oh good, Like I wondering how we got that number. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: because seems like I guess that seems like a reasonable
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  Speaker 1: amount of UFOs to store it in Air Force BACE.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean from logistics, if nothing else, I'm sure
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  Speaker 2: like maybe these things are gigantic.
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  Speaker 1: Well, this is the thing, This is the absolute thing
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  Speaker 1: when it comes to anything alien related, is that it
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  Speaker 1: is like, and I've brought this up when we've talked
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  Speaker 1: about aliens before, it is so fucking hard to travel
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  Speaker 1: through space and especially long distances of space, that their
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  Speaker 1: craft is going to be insane. Something that we probably
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  Speaker 1: couldn't even comprehend to reverse engineer anything out of and
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  Speaker 1: it's gonna be huge probably, Like you know, they gotta
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  Speaker 1: if they're going through all the effort, they're gonna bring
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  Speaker 1: a bunch of shit with them.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. So maybe that's why we only have twelve, right, Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: No, that's exactly right. Yeah, you know, we could only
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  Speaker 1: hold twelve independent staceships the Giant Ones at Area fifty one.
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  Speaker 2: So Jesse meanwhile goes off and talks to a guy
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  Speaker 2: named Michael Shatt. Yeah, who's he's the voice of reason
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  Speaker 2: sort of on this episode.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess so, yeah, in comparison.
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  Speaker 2: Because he's of the belief that we're just working on
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  Speaker 2: like dark projects there and things we don't want the
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  Speaker 2: public to know about. But it's not necessary, it's not UFOs,
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  Speaker 2: we're the ones doing it. Yeah, and then he breaks
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  Speaker 2: but then he breaks out all these diagrams and it's like, well,
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  Speaker 2: well I get.
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  Speaker 1: That, who are you and why you are? Literally just
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  Speaker 1: it's fan art that like it's all it is like,
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  Speaker 1: and like, look, I have looked up literally every single
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  Speaker 1: thing that he mentioned, and it's all shit that either
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  Speaker 1: comes directly from science fiction stories or some random guy
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  Speaker 1: just came up with, like, I'm sorry. He talks about
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  Speaker 1: that thing, this thing that is a neutral buoyancy craft
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  Speaker 1: is what he calls it. And he shows this in
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  Speaker 1: order to demonstrate this. He shows a picture of like
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  Speaker 1: this triangh flat triangle shaped thing that doesn't even make
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  Speaker 1: any sense as an aircraft, and you google neutral buoyancy
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  Speaker 1: craft and it fucking comes up on Google patents. I'm sorry,
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  Speaker 1: a government's secret military project is not going to show
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  Speaker 1: up on Google patents. And like the he talked, you know,
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  Speaker 1: like he brings up like the F nineteen, which is
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  Speaker 1: like fan fiction. It's like military fan fiction that's been
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  Speaker 1: around since the F twenty was invented. Like it's just
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  Speaker 1: because they skipped a number that people are like, well,
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  Speaker 1: there must be an alien F nineteen. He shows this thing.
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  Speaker 1: It looks ridiculous, the F nineteen. It's like it's like
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  Speaker 1: an arrowhead and it's got these.
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  Speaker 2: Sort of shaped like the stealth bomber.
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  Speaker 1: Well a little bit, but then it's got those fins
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  Speaker 1: on the back and I'm like, what are those fins for?
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  Speaker 1: That doesn't make any sense. Yeah, they're like they're like
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  Speaker 1: vertical fins, like.
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  Speaker 2: But I don't doubt that that's what they're doing there.
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  Speaker 2: I don't. I don't know if he's actually in naming
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  Speaker 2: the project.
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  Speaker 1: Sure, but like that's part of you know, if you're
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  Speaker 1: talking about like the Mirage Men, like we talked about
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  Speaker 1: in the last episode, Like that's kind of what that
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  Speaker 1: is where he's kind of mentioning stuff that is kind
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  Speaker 1: of probably real, yeah, which is that it's probably a
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  Speaker 1: place where they develop experimental aircraft. But he's just adding
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  Speaker 1: science fiction to it and it makes it ridiculous.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, And so he goes through all all his flash
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  Speaker 2: cards and Jesse, for some reason ask about time travel. Yeah.
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Again, I don't think Jesse really gets aliens, Like
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: I just don't think that, which is funny because he
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: was in Predator and so it seems like he would
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: know a little bit. But he just seems like it's like, well,
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: it's weird, right, so it must be kind of related
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: to this other thing.
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah. This is the point where it starts seeming like
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: he does believe aliens are involved in all.
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: I guess of course he does, because people have told
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: them that it's real.
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: That's such a big philosophy shift to have mid episode.
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: To go from just flatly not believing in aliens at
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: all to there are definitely aliens and there are definitely
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: spacecraft at Area fifty one.
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: It reminds me of the episode where he changes his
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: nine to eleven theory and his son gets me very
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: angry at him. Oh my god, we've been saying it
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: was a controlled demolition for two years, Dad.
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: That's I mean, But again, it's only it's funny because
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: he he like notices it in that episode and someone
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: actually like mentions it. But like so many of these
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: episodes feature conflicting theories, like just like he takes at
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: face value things that directly contradict each other.
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: So so yeah, even this guy's like time travel, what
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: are you talking about, Governor? And then Jesse says, so,
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: what's the deal with Area fifty one? Are they reverse
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: engineering or are they spending millions of tax dollars off
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: the books? I mean, can it be both?
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah? I was gonna say, why wouldn't it be both?
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: If they were reversed engineering alien technology, I'd imagine that
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: cost a pretty penny.
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: And here's the thing. If there is alien technology falling
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: to the Earth, of course they're going to try to
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: fucking reverse engineer it who.
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: I mean, yeah again, not to take the government's side
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: because I don't necessarily agree with that as a person,
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: but it makes sense.
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: So team meeting time, Ding ding Ding. They're gathered to
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: discuss Kurt Russell's the Phoenix Lights, which, uh just reminder
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: that I love dropping in from time to time. He
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: was the first person to report Phoenix lights. He's flying
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: his son to meet his girlfriend, and Ye looked out
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: the window and said, Paul, Paul, that's.
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: What he sounds like.
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: Uh So, I still think the Phoenix lights were the
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: stealth bomber, but that's neither here nor there.
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: I mean, maybe my favorite part of the whole team
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: meeting about the Phoenix Lights is when Jesse when they
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: cut away from it and Jesse Vachura says, as I
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: was being downloaded on the Phoenix lights. Meanwhile, June star
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: Pong was like, it's just so funny, as I was
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: being downloaded on what Phoenix lights?
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: Weird way to put that. It's so insanely weird.
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: He's such a weird guy.
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: I love it so June that they bring up the
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: Phoenix lights in classic editing of this show fashion Now
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: we're going to manically bounce between them talking about one
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: thing and June going off to meet a source.
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: It's different.
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: I think they might just not like June that much.
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: It's again, she's like the field trip person. She whenever
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: they need her, need someone to go meet a weirdo
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: in a parking lot somewhere in the middle of the country, they.
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: Send June whenever the sketchy man in a van beacon
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: God lights in the sky.
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: Okay, I haven't watched every first season episode, Okay, so
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: we gotta get it. By the way, the guy that
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: she goes to see is the same guy that they
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: that she visits during the Manchurian Candidate episode. Yes, which
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: I found to be fucking hilarious that they go back
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: to the same guy. And I have to know if
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: in one of the episodes in the first season that
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: I didn't see, if he appears again, because that's wild.
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: No, he's not in either of those episodes. God, so
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: he just he just makes a return appearance the minute
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: they because they kind of tease it and then go
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: to commercial and then come back. The minute I saw
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: that white van, I was like, it's gonna be that guy, right.
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: I was the guy.
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: I was losing my mind. It was like when fucking
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: Iron Man showed up in The Incredible Hulk or something.
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: I was like, oh shit, it's that weirdo and he's
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: still fucking so weird.
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: Oh my god. And his name's David Corso. Yeah, he
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: is the Yeah, the creepy man and a creepy white
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: van from the Manchurian Candidate episode. He tells her she
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: should speak to a guy named Richard Boyland or Richard Boylan.
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah she does.
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: She really need to hit up this white van for
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: this information every time, because that's all he did last
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: time too, was give her a name. And it's like,
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: I get secure communications and all, but you're doing this
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: on a TV show, Fella.
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: All he did was give her a name and make
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: really weird James Bond type like insinuations, like talk like
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: a Bond villain. It's so he's he's gotta be fake, right,
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: he can't be. He's not a real person. He's an actor, right.
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: I think he's a good candidate for being one of
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: those mirage men people.
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: I mean maybe, but like it's just they use the
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: same guy again and he does the same like stick
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: he says, how very astude of you in the same
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: creepy voice, like he's.
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: He's He's been a very reliable source so far because
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: if you remember, on the first episode, he gave her
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: a name and it turned out out that that was
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: a person.
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: It's true, that was a guy and he was super
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: weird too.
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: He was a master of martial arts. Yeah, demonstraight, We'll
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: take your word for it, sir.
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I just this guy has to be an actor.
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: He I just can't believe that that's a real person
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: that they found and have visited twice, and he is,
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: and he talks like this like.
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I was like, he's not going to run the
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: how very astute of your mine again is he? But
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: he did it like fucking it's his trademark and.
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: He delivers every line like oh yes, I hadn't thought
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: of that before. Interesting, Like it's that shit. It's fucking
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: deep throat shit like you.
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: Know, yeah, except on television.
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, God, they had he like I'm sorry not to repeat,
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: but he has to.
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's something going on with him.
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: So definitely something going on with them, regardless of whether
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: he's an actor.
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: So she goes off and meets with doctor Boyle and
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: he's he's got some shit to say. Absolutely, he claims
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: Area fifty one goes thirty levels below the ground and
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: the government is down there trying to create alien human hybrids.
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: Sure, wow, this is this is where Yeah again we.
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: Talked about this on the last episode.
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: But what was Haybriding and what fall Sisters Brothers? Yeah,
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: this is there's a he did a Dulcy Bass episode
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: Jesse venture, and I think that's one of the ones
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: I covered with Jeff Okay and Dulcie Base. Is the
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: same general theory. It's that, Uh, are you watching American
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: Horror Story this season?
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: Not? No, I don't. I haven't watched that show.
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: The second half of this season is about basically a
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: depiction of this conspiracy theory that claims Eisenhower had a
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: meeting with the aliens that crashed at Roswell and made
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: a deal with them where they could have five thousand
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: humans a year to do experiments on in exchange for
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: them giving us alien technology. So one that part of
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: this season of American Horror Story very much worth checking
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: out just to see that depicted on the silver screen,
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: but also that ends up in the Dulcy Base theory
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: which is that we built Dulcie Base for these aliens
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: to do their experiments on five thousand people a year,
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: and that at one point we kind of felt like
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: they were getting a little out of hand with it,
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: so we sent the Marines down to have to basically
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: break into this lab and put down what they were
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: doing to the Marines lost.
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, into the lab where the aliens are working. Yes, yes, yeah.
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: And that's all claimed to have happened at dulci Base.
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: So I don't know if he's talking about the same thing,
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: but it seems like it.
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: I'll know, I would question why the aliens would need
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: to do those experiments on an Air Force space if
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: they came here in a spaceship. I feel like maybe
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: that would probably suit their needs.
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Better, Well, I mean, you're gonna want some facilities.
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: You're gonna want You're gonna want something in an exchange
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: for your alien technology.
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: You're not saying I thought that people were what was
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: in an exchange for the alien technology?
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but they you know, they want Every artist wants
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: a studio, of course, No, that's true that they need
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: a place to create any place.
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: When the marine storm your studio, then you have no
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: rest rejoinder, but to like annihilate them with your death ray.
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's a wild theory. That should be a movie,
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: and I think it has been. I think there are
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: movies with a very similar plot. Okay, but who knows.
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: So this guy, doctor Boylan, he claims they're they're making
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: human alien hybrids down there, and then it actually goes
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: like thirty levels below the ground. He said he tried.
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: This is where things get a little conflicting when it
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: comes to his accounts of things that have happened at
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: Area fifty one, because the first thing he says is, well,
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: I try to drive there and someone shot out my tires,
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: which very funny way to handle it. I like that,
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: also kind of impractical because it's going to require more
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: people to come out there and deal with a situation.
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: Of his car.
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: It's gonna have to call a tow truck. Does he
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: have service there? Are you going to let him use
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: a phone? I means it a human phone or an
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: alien phone?
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: Oh? An alien phone? Well that's what our smartphones are,
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: Adam is alien?
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I forget about that. So but then he
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: also says he went back at night and saw a
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: bunch of weird hovercrafts frolicking around, which and he says,
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: these crafts are reverse engineered from UFOs, So we are
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: verse engineering alien technology, but also haven't mastered security enough
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: that we can't see this guy standing there in the dark.
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: I mean, you know, I don't know.
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: I just can't buy the reverse engineering thing that just
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: has never passed the sniff test for me. Uh, you know,
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: it's we have no idea what alien technology would would
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: be like it I feel like that would be such
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: a difficult task to get anything useful out of alien technology.
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and my thing is I don't care. Yeah, I
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: don't care if we were reverse engineer again, it's what
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: I would expect us to do.
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Also, like it's not like without aliens we haven't
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: been able to make some really fucking deadly shit anyway, Like, yeah,
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: we don't kill people, just fine.
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: That's another conclusion people leap to is that everything they're
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: working on is gonna kill us, which I mean, granted,
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: given the history of this government, yes problem it's the military,
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: So but you know what if they have to have
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: an emergency plan for unlimited energy if things really do
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: go haywire, I see that That's one of my hopes
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: right there, is that the government like solved climate change
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: and fossil fuels a long time ago, and they're just like,
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: but we're gonna use up what's there first. Yeah, and
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: then we'll roll out the alien technology and look like
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: the saviors of the world. Of course, maybe I don't
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: getting that as Al Gore as an alien.
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: Probably, sure, everyone will come out on that limb with me.
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: That's what's in his lock box. Old ass joke.
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: So now Jesse heads out to talk to a guy
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: named Randall Fitzgerald who is an investigative journalist who looked
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: into the Phoenix lights. Did you notice there was a
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: dog barking in the background of this episode or of
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: the scene the entire time.
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: Uh. No, one's gonna ever claim that the production values
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: on this show are you know, professional level, And it's.
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: Not like they were in like like conducting this interview
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: in a location that was integral to the story or
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: any like just go to a Denny's or something like,
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: get that someone quiet that dog down, put a muzzle
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: on it or something.
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: Move, yeah, go down like a block.
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: But instead there's a dog voicing its displeasure. The whole time, and.
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: That just makes this guy seem even more reasonable than
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: he otherwise would he Well.
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: What he's pushing though, the idea that whatever was flying
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: the human or flying the Arizona lights was human, Yeah,
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: that I buy.
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: I mean sure, maybe I don't know.
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: Then he's then he spins off into holograms and projections, which,
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: on the one hand, like that, that's his argument is
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: that what was seen over Phoenix was a hologram that
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: the government was projecting into the sky to see how
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: people reacted. And when we covered the CIA UFO files
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: from back in the fifties, that was like one of
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: the first things, yeah, we were looking into was oh,
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: can we use this for psychological warfare and right project
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: shit into the sky?
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: I would say the major flaw in that is that
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: no one saw a UFO. They all just saw lights.
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: No one saw like a structure, which kind of oh, there.
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: Are there's a couple different sightings from that night, and
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: there is one that was an actual craft.
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: Sure, sure, no, I mean I know what you mean,
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: but I just mean, like, in general, widespread most people
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: just saw lights, and so if it was a test
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: to see how effective a UFO hologram in the sky
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: would be it was probably a bad time to do it, probably,
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: you know, not successful because you got to see the
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: craft in order to have that effect, you know.
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but you're only referring to the one in there
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: were two incidents where it was a lot of people
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: who reported That's why I think it was the stealth bomber,
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: because there are a bunch of people who report seeing
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: a thing that when they describe it, it sounds like
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: the stealth bomber. And the thing about the stealth bomber
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: is it was officially introduced to the world like two
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: or three months later. So those two things happened in
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: very close proximity. And yeah, I mean that's possible, definitely,
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: Like if you see a stealth bomber flying overhead, you're
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: gonna know as long as it's not right in stealth mode. Well,
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: because it happened to me on New Year's Day one
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: year when I was living very close to Pasadena where
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: the Rose bul Parade happens and stealth bombers do flyovers.
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: But in that moment, when I looked up and saw
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: a stealth bomber, I was like, what the fuck is
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: going on? Why is there a stealth bomber in the sky.
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: They're real weird looking, I like, you know, but that
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: is like also a common misconception that about in stealth
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: bombers that people think it like is hard to see,
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: but it's not. It just doesn't reflect radar easily. Yeah.
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: So yeah. The one interesting thing they bring up is
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: and they of course don't really cite any sources for this,
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: so I guess I would have to look into it,
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: but they claim that at the same time the Phoenix
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: Lights happened, the Maryland National Guard was working on a
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: hologram projection project. And what's interesting about that is the
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: Maryland National Guard did say after the Phoenix lights that
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: they were flying in the area, which I've always been like,
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: why Maryland, Why is the Maryland National Guard all the
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: way in Arizona. Yeah, yeah, that's weird. I don't know,
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: but that part is weird. And this is also what
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: Jesse venture is nine to eleven theory I believe goes
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: on to become is that it's holograms projected in the sky. Sure,
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: because that's one of the theories. Yeah.
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's also like, didn't someone someone claimed that like
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: Satan was projected in this guy too. There's lots of
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: stuff around there.
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you could see the face of Satan in
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: the smoke rising from the twin towers. I keep forgetting.
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: The guy who apparently has taken over and rebooted Weekly
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: World News wants to do an episode of this podcast. Oh,
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: it'd be an interesting person to talk to.
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: I would be interesting.
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: Get some bat Boy updates things alike. Maybe I'll reply
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: to that email you should.
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: It'd be interesting.
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So yeah, the dog is barking the whole time
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: this guy's talking. He and then he closes it out
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: by just saying, yeah, if that, if that's all true,
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: it came from area fifty one.
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: He's like, all right, yeah, thanks, we'll take your word
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: for it.
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: So now Jesse Ventura is going to launch a raid
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: on Area fifty one, and he's gonna do it on
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: his motorcycle.
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: But yeah, on his chopper. Baby.
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: He is hitting the road. He's jeansed up, he's got
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: a black T shirt on. He's got a helmet that
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: looks like it would not protect you in a crash.
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: No, but it looks cool. It does.
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: He looks great.
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: He looks so cool.
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: And he's going to meet a guy named George Knapp,
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: who claims to be the guy who knows more about
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: Area fifty one than anyone else. And I bet that
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: is just categorically fun.
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: Yes, I can't imagine that that is real.
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like, there are probably dozens of CIA employees who
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: know so much more about Area fifty one.
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: There have to be. There's so many people who work
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: there currently who know more.
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: I love that there's an airline that flies people in.
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: I don't know if I put that in the notes.
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: I've always loved that fact.
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: It is so fun, fascinating.
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: It's wild, like it's a top secret military base. They
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: do crazy fucking shit to make sure it's all like secret.
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: But yeah, I can't. We're gonna talk about but June
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: that that section was wild where June goes in that place.
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: So he calls this guy that he talks to, George Napp.
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: He calls Area fifty one the blackest place in the
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: Black World. Yeah, it's like, man, you can't. That's a
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: weird way to.
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: Put that, really really odd phrasing. Uh. I just don't
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: think I've ever heard of the I guess you'd call
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: it the shadow government, referred to as the Black World
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: I've just never heard that.
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like, if nothing, I don't think I've
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: ever heard anything described as the Black World. No, but
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: it feels like, I don't know what a weird way
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: to say it, man, it is, it's so weird.
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: Honestly, the blackest place in the Black World sounds like
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: a Diggable Planet's album.
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: Diggable Planets were fucking great.
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: They are they fucking rule.
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: So he brings up the stealth bomber and says they
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: were burning hazardous materials at Area fifty one while developing
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: that and even worse, government workers who got sick from
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: it were refused government help. That sounds like the government
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: that sure does out that one bit.
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: That is that is just the VW in the not
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: the VW, the veterans, you know, hospitals in a in
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: a nutshell.
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the war in Iraq, there were the depleted uranium
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: rounds that made people sick mefloquin, which is one of
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: the reasons hydroxy chloric one scared me so much because
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: mefloquin is an anti malaria drug that makes people crazy
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: and people had to take it like it was.
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: It was a whole thing.
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: Government loves making people sick and then pretending they didn't
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: do it. First responders on nine to eleven.
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: For example, Absolutely, I don't know.
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: I don't I didn't know holograms could produce the kind
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: of dust necessary to make people sick.
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: But I guess. So that's the thermite paint.
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: Right right right. So for some reason, Jesse asks if
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: the government is going to tap his phone for looking
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: into this, and George Knapp says what we're all thinking
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: in that moment, which is that the government's already tapping
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: your phone.
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and now they don't even need to, Yeah.
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: You're doing it. Yeah, they could just set their DVRs.
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: They well, I mean, I just mean, like in the
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: current day, they could just like you know, I don't know,
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: connect a Bluetooth or something.
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: So now he hops back on his motorcycle to ride
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: off into the desert to storm area fifty one.
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: Now I want to say, like we're wondering why he
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: has a motorcycle. I would bet money that he got
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: that motorcycle because George rides the motorcycle and he doesn't
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: want to look less cool than George. Oh that could
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: be because they both ride out on motorcycles together, and
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: there's no way that. George was just like, oh, you've
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: got a motorcycle, just ride like George was going to
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: ride his motorcycle.
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: I got a sidecar. You want to hop in that governor?
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that would make it. Yeah, that would be cool, right.
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: No, I would preferred. I would have preferred to see that.
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: Would have been so funny him in a sidecar.
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: He is so large, that would be great. It would
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: be amazing, be some Marx Brothers shit. So he's My
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: theory was that he's trying to ride that motorcycle off
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: on his taxis. I mean, are you are you used
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: it on teleficial and it's a business expounse.
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: It's probably both.
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: He's heading to Rachel, Nevada, the town closest to Area
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: fifty one. He talks to a very confusing figure name
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: Jorg Arnu Yorg Yeah, who seems like he's from Sweden
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: or Norway. Turns out it's Germany.
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: But also, is that like a Confederate flag bandana he's
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: got on his head?
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. It was weird. This guy is
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: interesting because he just kind of moved to Rachel from Germany. Yeah,
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: and uh, like that's just an interesting story. Like I
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: would say, I want to say, I would watch a
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: TV show like just called Rachel that is just about
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: this town, because oh, yeah, you have like it just
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: seems like such an interesting vibe to population eighty right exactly,
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: and almost everybody there probably you know, is some interesting
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: person of some sort. And you know, they've got like
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: that alien diner that they kind of showed briefly, and
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: I don't know, I just feel like there's a lot
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: of potential there, Like it's kind of like, uh, the
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: town in Trimmers a little bit, oh yeah, especially what
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: it becomes later.
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: But yeah, so this is where we find out that
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: that maniac from earlier in the episode actually dug those
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: sensors out of the ground.
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's where it.
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: Makes the FBI showing up a lot more explainable. If
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: you ask me again.
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: That guy seemed like he maybe had some had something
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: else going on.
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: And York says, there's no aliens at Area fifty one,
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: but they're doing experimental aircraft work there, and I think
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: we've nailed down that point.
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: But yeah, I feel like, yeah, we got that, seems
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: that seems correct. Good job.
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: But Jesse venture ends the conversation and says, enough talk,
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: it was time for some action. Time to ride out
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: the Area fifty one.
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: The best part of every episode. Jesse in Front's Authority.
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: York is on a motorcycle too. It's all very cool. Yeah,
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: they hop off the bikes and start walking to the
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: boundary of Area fifty one on foot, and again, just
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: like every episode, Jesse Venturer wants to know why they
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: can't just walk onto this private government property as American citizens.
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: He's he's so, he just is so hung up on
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: being a former governor and thinking that that just imbues
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: him with the ultimate authority to do whatever he wants.
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's he's really taken it hard. Yeah, he wants
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: to know why. He because at one point, some dudes
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: and trucks pull up, which George Knapp, by the way,
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: was like, yeah, when you get there, some guys are
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: gonna pull up in trucks. They're gonna be up on
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: a hill. I mean makes sense that happens. And he's like, well,
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: why can't I just go talk to him and ask
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: him some questions. It's like, why can't you get in
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: close proximity to the first line of defense between this
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: government facility and you? I think probably just for logistical
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: tactical reasons if nothing else. Right, he complains about how
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: he's got to make a phone call, which I get that.
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: I hate making a phone call too.
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, no, totally. Well, you get no signal out
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: in the desert, so it's just tough for him.
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's gonna have to ride his dog all the
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: way back to Vegas make that phone call.
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't need to think about Jesse venture as hog.
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: And so yeah, again, not to take the government side,
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: but I'm on the government side here.
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: I mean, come on, guys, come on now.
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like that could be some sort of hub for
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: our power grid or something that they just don't want
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: people to know a like, yeah, fucking aliens.
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: It might be something nefarious. Who knows. Yeah, it could
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: be anything that they don't want people to know about.
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: And they're going to defend it that Like, I'm not
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: saying that's good or bad. I'm just saying it makes sense. Yeah.
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: So next he goes to talk to Congressman Dean Heller
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: of Nevada.
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: That's his move, that's his move. He loves. I'm just
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: about this. I'm going to talk to the congressman and.
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: Like Yeah, that guy's gonna have some answers. He's got
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: Area fifty one. That's how politics work. Oh yeah, congressmen,
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: they know so much and the congressman's not there, so
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: now the congressman's staffers have to feel these questions.
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: I felt so bad for these people because what are
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: they supposed to do in this situation?
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: And they make the most logical argument possible, which is, dude,
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: we don't have that kind of security Clarence, why are
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: you asking us about area fifty one?
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: They're like interns.
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, d like blaming it on security clearance. Hate is
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: what the problem is.
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: Jess Like, honestly, he's talked to some random guy and
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: an office, and he's expecting him to blow the cover.
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah. One of the people he talks to is his
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: press secretary. It's like that guy doesn't say shit, you know,
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: someone else doesn't tell him to say exactly.
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: His whole job is to repeat what he is told
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: to say.
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: Although it would have been funny if that guy was like,
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: holy shit, I've been waiting for you to show up.
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: You want to fucking straight dirt. I have got it
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: for you, man. I am so glad you can't.
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: And his fucking head just explodes, Oh no, they got him.
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: So then yeah, he gets mad that they don't have
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: security clearance, and then he delivers a pro wrestling monologue.
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: About how he ends every episode.
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: Staying on the government's case about Area fifty one.
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: Now listen here, government, I'm not gonna let this slide.
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna take it to the to the map. We're
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: gonna go at it. You got to come.
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: And then he ends up by saying, what are they
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: gonna do? Arrest me?
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: And yeah, they might, yeah, probably, you know, they might
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: kill you if if you actually get close to something like, yeah,
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: it's the government. You're like, that's the whole thing. It's
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: so weird about this show because it is simultaneously so
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: mistrustful of the government and yet also so adamant that
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: the government like should been to his will and like
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: like has no power over him or you know.
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: But he's so you know, skeptical of the Olivia he
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: was a governor that you know.
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: What, So fuck fuck that's true. I you know, I
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: hadn't even thought about that.
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: So he he he does. That comes with a certain
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: level of respect and cache that will get you into
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: any secret government project.
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: I mean sires exactly. That's what the that's what that
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: weird meeting he had with the CIA agents that came
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: up in an earlier episode was all about he They
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: were like, here, here's all the security clearances that what.
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: Do you need to know? Yeah, yeah, that's the thing.
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: He knows how these interactions are going to go every time. Right,
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: it's all show worked in government, he knows. But he
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: puts on a good show.
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: He does. He does. It's it's fun to watch him
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: do his thing. It's just like, you know, he's just
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: comes off as kind of an idiot honestly, which is,
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: you know, not what I would go for on my
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: TV show maybe, but okay.
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: But he's an idiot with a motorcycle. And that's more
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: than I can say about myself.
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: So what that's true? Same for me?
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So I think that's our episode.
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: Do we have anything to plug before we get out
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: of here?
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: Uh? You can find me at high their hidar on Twitter.
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: That's that's about it. If you would absolutely really liked
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: Uh that nothing much.
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: Uh. The only thing I have to plug is I
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: don't have nothing. I don't have anything plugs. You know,
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: this is a bonus episode You're doing everything I need
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: you to do, so uh, let's get out of here.
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: Olivia say goodbye, bye, goodbye. Everybody, check your pets for ticks.
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: We love you.