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The Crown is Heavy · Hip-Hop Now Podcast

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  as as we did before in this podcast when Jay Cole apologized, I had
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  the homie Tony into the dome dot Com and kill of Apartment five be on
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  to talk about that. But in that episode, I felt like every five
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  minutes, I was like me and the homie at me, and the homie
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  I said, and then and then we could hey, y'all, he's here.
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  We already done talked about it. We're gonna get into it, but
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  real quick, Uh, this is the homie. He is a lifelong hip
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  hop fan, he's been a producer, he's been a rapper, he's been
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  the longest tenured host of the legendary Strictly Hip Hop in Baltimore ten years ay
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  from the town Aconnola. What's good, brother, man, Thank you man,
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  Thank you for having me. Chief really appreciate it. Man. Anything
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  good, man, anything good. We're here to talk about what's what's happening
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  in the culture today. You know what's happening today. It's always something in
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  the culture. You know, you know what's going on today, you know,
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  right it is. Look, I pride this podcast on keeping those who
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  are not always informed on everything or just want a certain perspective, but specifically
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  those who you know, you know, life things get in the way and
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  maybe you still love hip hop, but you're just not in it in the
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  same way as you need to know. So to get you caught up real
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  quick. You know, there's been this whole back and forth with this record
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  from j Cole to Drake to Rick Ross, and then you had some offshoot
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  situations for which we ain't gonna discuss because we don't trust it now. But
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  we don't care about what they rapping about, to be honest, you know,
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  But this specific battle. As you know you watched the other episode.
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  J Cole just tapped out, like, yo, what am I doing?
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  I'm out peace, y'all can have it. Drake kept going. He put
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  out a song called push Ups, allegedly he put out Kendrick Kendrick AI distance
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  towards him, allegedly because we don't know. And then he put out a
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  song Tailor Made Freestyle where he used AI versions of Tupac and Snoop to basically
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  show their disappointment in Kendrick and really trying to lure Kendrick out. After Kendrick
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  set off the whole thing with his verse off the metro booming in Future album
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  the song called like that right and we got some men for about that straight
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  from Kendrick. But everybody was waiting, Yo. He Kendrick got forty eight
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  hours, he got two days. He gotta do this, he gotta do
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  that, and us Old has a kind of like yo, sometimes they don't
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  hit when you expect him to until it's a Tuesday, we drop unexpectedly,
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  like you know what, that's what we know right right, We know all
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  this. We know that you know right exactly, And look for anybody who's
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  younger or just you know, just not used to what used to being what
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  is now? Blah blah blah, just to talk about how long he took
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  Drake and I got a credit academics for this because it's where I heard it.
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  But Drake responded to Kendrick's like that verse within twenty one days. Kendrick
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  responded to Drake's response, push up within seventeen days. So all this,
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  y'all, he lost us what he waiting for. He did it in less
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  time. Did that make you feel better? But we ain't gonna talk.
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  We're gonna talk about you know whatever. We need to talk about it without
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  the YANKI roll out too, without the confusion, without the deception. Is
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  it this? Is it that? What's No? It's on his page,
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  you know, his his YouTube it's his, right, it's his, it's
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  him. We don't have to try to figure it out. And do you
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  know calculus like, no, it's it's him, you know right, it's
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  on his YouTube page. It was on his Twitter, trust me. When
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  everybody said, especially complex yo, his response is out, but they hadn't
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  posted it, I was like, well, where where is it? And
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  I went to YouTube and that's why I found it. Then I went to
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  his Twitter and it was right at the top, and I was like,
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  yeah, because he don't tweet every day. I was like, this is
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  him. This is him for sure. And we haven't checked the numbers because
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  we know y'all care about that. Well, we were also we're just gonna
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  talk about the bars. So I'm gonna just ask you, first time pressing
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  play on it, especially now having had time to really digest, what do
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  you think about Kendrick's response given everything that's happened since then, since everybody's responded,
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  basically specifically Drake, Yeah, it's crazy because you know, as I'm
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  listening to you and we kicked this off, I'm like, yo, did
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  we even mention shorty name, like like yo the Boogieyman, like Yo.
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  The Kendrick Lamar response, Kendrick Lamar kind of kicked us into a firestorm with
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  like that, and we kicked up dust. And you know, Drake was
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  like, all right, I'm with that. You ain't kicking up that much
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  dust. Let's go. And then, like you said, with the rollout
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  and you know AI track leaking and then the official leak, and then he
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  goes and actually makes an AI track and now all right, Kendrick has responded
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  within seventeen days and pressing play. It's like the initial approach, It's like,
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  all right, I don't know what to expect. I knew I was
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  gonna get a drop though I knew it was gonna drop, you know.
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  I'm like, yeah, the beat is gonna drop, and it's it's likely.
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  This is what I was thinking before it even before it even dropped.
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  My anticipation, I'm like, yo, so he's probably gonna run with this
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  style that he's been rapping with with his cousin Baby King. It's you know,
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  it's it's off kilter but yet sharp, and then you have like these
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  heroic horns, you know, the family ties. I'm like, if he
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  does something like that, you know that would that would be dope? Can
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  he do something like that? Can you do that and make it a response
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  slash battle rap? Can you do that? So that's what I was I
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  was thinking he was gonna do. I was thinking it was gonna be challenging,
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  but I'm like, yeah, if he gets that off, that'll be
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  dope. So we got the build up, or we got the initial intro
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  with the with the smooth you know sample track, just like, YO,
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  just talk to this talk to this dude real quick. And yeah, that
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  was my initial thought. I'm like, Yo's he's he's talking to him right
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  now, like and then he even has something he says, I'm killing with
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  kindness. He says something like that in those first couple of bars. So
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  yeah, it's all a set up, you know. Then for the initial
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  drop, and it was like clock where I'm like, they'll go them horns
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  there it is. I'm like, Okay, so he really he really gonna
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  go there, He's really gonna take it. Then one thing I will say,
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  you know, I know people are gonna people gonna probably disagree with it.
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  You know. I'm seeing some of the responses and the reactions out there,
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  and I'm I'm actually I'm glad that he chose the approach that he chose,
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  like the beat selection, and he went with that kind of family ties
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  style, you know, like I just did. I think Drake, you
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  know, battle wise and maybe some of the hip hop heads you know,
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  were maybe expecting him to come with the boom back, you know, I
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  think that's what they were and that's easily like, oh man, see he
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  on his rapidy rap Yo think it's the nineties. No, he come with
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  the style that he's doing right now this and it's it's the style that he's
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  you know, some could maybe say it's experimental or but it's the style.
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  This is the mold that I'm in right now, and he chose to respond
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  to YO in that mode as far as his approach. So you know,
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  that was my initial thought, you know, from beginning, you know,
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  to the to the end, just thinking about the approach. It's like,
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  Okay, he's staying that in that same bag like so and but at the
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  same time hitting on a couple different audiences, right because you got the grown
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  man bars, you know, but then you got that kind of marsh pit
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  rap rah rah. You got that, and like in some of your delivery,
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  it's like he weaved in and out of it because some of them sometimes
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  he's just talking to talking to y'all, right, you know, like it's
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  not as rah rah or turned up as like that. It's but it's it's
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  aggressive, but it's I guess he toned back some of the aggression so he
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  can get some of the more complex bars off. You know. So that
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  was that's my my initial thoughts. Yeah, I totally agree, because it's
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  sort of like J Cole was seven Minute Drill did something similar. It's just
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  that the bars weren't where we expected them to be, so the impact was
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  light, you know, in comparison, because I think in a lot of
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  ways to your point, Yeah, we was there for the boom back time,
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  so we know we was there for either. We was on the radio
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  with all of that, you know what I'm saying, talking to the people
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  the hip hop community, you know, doing the tallies and the boats and
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  roundtable discussions and all of that like on FM radio right live when it was
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  happening. So we was there, we know what hadened it. Also outside
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  for the I was in Queensbridge when the bridge is overhit and it was like
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  funeral for the entire projects. It was just like yo, y'ah ain't hear
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  it? Oh yeah, oh y'all did here? Okay. So I feel
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  like to have the like to your point, to have the expectation for any
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  of these guys to be honest, to just go and yo, let me
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  go get a boom back beat. Then they're really only trying to impress us
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  to be honest. But when you have a beat like that, that's kind
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  of the vibe now that you know, a younger generation can get into.
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  But the bars are there for us to be like, yo, he said,
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  blah blah blah, and we'll get into some of those bars. I
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  totally agree. It was probably the right move. My first initial reaction,
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  honestly, I laughed because of how people said, like, kench, you're
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  gonna respond with some alien noises, and I just think that's the funniest.
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  I just think that's the funniest thing in the world. So, you know,
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  when some of those popped up here and there, I chuckled. But
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  when I started listening listen, I was like, oh, there's a lot
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  here. I'm missing a lot. And it's an initial listen. I know
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  I'm missing a lot. I only really caught like one bar that kind of
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  stopped me in my tracks, like, oh wait, what do you say?
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  So yeah, I agree, and I think we push ups the drake
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  dish this he kind of did that, like this beat is more of a
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  vibe of what I do and what people know, so they kind of thinking
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  of, like, but let's just get into some of these bars, man,
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  because I think what what's being missed by? Like obviously we're not gonna
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  convince anybody to like anything regardless because we are fans of these guys, you
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  know what I'm saying. But it's a battle and it comes down to judging
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  the bars. That's what battle rap is about. So all the antics like
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  the one that we mentioned with the AI with Tupac and Snoop's voice which was
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  pulled down from his accounts because of a ceased insist because you just can't do
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  that. I'm just saying, especially with Tupac. His estate just won't have
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  any of it. This brought it back to we wrap it. Yeah,
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  like you said, the rollout, there was no confusion as whether it was
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  Kendrick or not because he uploaded it. He didn't send it to some podcast
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  or some YouTuber or somebody didn't find it and blah blah blah. It came
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  directly from Kendrick to the people, and most importantly, it was on streaming
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  services within like an hour or so. Drake took a while to get there,
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  which was surprising because you know Drake, he could get his joint up
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  there. Rick Ross was up there quick like. But we kind of saw
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  what Homie was doing, so I let's just start getting into the bars,
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  because I think this is just a this is a nasty record. When you
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  start to break down everything is being said. What what are some of the
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  lines that stood out to you? Well, you know the parking son,
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  you know that was that was crazy to me. You know, they must
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  got dementia. Things get shaky. I'm parking son, you know that was
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  I'm like, all right, you know what I'm saying that that's that's crazy.
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  And then you know, the whole and this is the beginning. This
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  is when the beat first drops. That's when he started to open up the
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  bar bag, you know, open up Pandora's box and start to reach in
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  and get the bars. You know, the initial intro. You know,
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  he's setting up the whole. You know, this is an actor and I'm
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  kind of just sitting back looking at all the the shenanigans go down. And
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  then when the horns drop, Okay, it's time to wrap now. And
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  you know, we got the parking son. We got the you know,
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  pot turning over in his grave. You know, I mean, we got
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  the you know you should what did he say? The you? You?
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  I want to see you push your t you know, you better off spinning
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  back, you know with him then, you know, then pushing me.
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  Yeah, you know, then you know, drop the brother government, you
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  know. But then but then compares himself to Terrence Crawford. I'm like,
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  oh man, I'm like, okay, we really and that and that that
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  that definitely hit home for me because I'm an Earl Spence fan, So it's
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  like, damn, and so you know, this is Terrence Crawford. Did
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  we doing that? Yeah? Yeah, pretty pretty much. And I don't
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  know if we mentioned this for people watching, but it is the cover of
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  this episode. The name of the song is Euphoria by the way, and
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  it contained on the cover. It contains synonyms for Euphoria that had basically quotes
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  and all of this speak to everything that's being said, and most importantly two
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  things. Because you know the Internet, we know that Drake was a producer
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  on the HBO show Euphoria, which some say contained a lot of child pornography.
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  Yeah, but you know, it's it's it's kind of a reach in
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  a lot of ways because it's kind of like, that's not what the show
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  was about, but it contained that, right, And today is the day
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  a Hitler died. Oh, and they're trying to tie that to it,
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  and I'm like, bro, like what, so I gotta listen again because
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  I'm like, wait a minute, is there is there East Egg in there
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  somewhere? I missed? Oh Man. One of the only line that caught
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  me off guard the first time, which I had to go and tweet about
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  it, was Yeah, my first one, like the last one, is
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  a classic. You don't have one. Let your core audience stomach that.
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  Then tell them where you can where you get your ads from. Now for
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  those people who are listening to this Kendrick thing, and really some people can't
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  get into the delivery, but they also don't understand they're missing some of the
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  bars. Let's just break that down just a little bit for y'all. Right,
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  So my first one, like the last one, Jcoble even Drake or
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  saying the first one is a classic, but you're last album was garbage,
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  meaning mister Morale, Big Steppers, Kendrick Lubbar's album was gone, So that's
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  him. Both my joints are classics, right, that's what he's saying,
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  saying you don't have one, because that was a debate online like, well,
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  how can you say that, because do you even have a classic?
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  Most people have a favorite, like take Care is my favorite Drake album.
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  But it's tough to really say what's a classic and what is and if you're
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  not a megafan, you know what I'm saying. And the last bar was
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  the one that I had to hit Rewind. I had to stop it.
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  I was like, yo, I gotta stop because did he say what I
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  think he thought I said, or thought he said, let your core audience
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  stomach that we're gonna stop there for the slow people in the back stomach,
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  right core, if you work out, that's your core. You know,
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  you gotta get that straight. Usually you can't really do much and nothing else
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  if that core ain't right. Some stomach and core, let them asks you
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  where you get your abs from? Right, abs in that same core stomach
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  area. And we know because people were saying allegedly, but we saw it.
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  Drake got some fake abs installed and he took a bunch of beauty photos.
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  But maybe he had some stomach pains according to Rick Ross, and you
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  know, supposedly got him removed. And I'm thinking, somebody what, well,
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  yeah, Rick Rosse said that's why he dressed it funny at his shows.
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  Now with them big jumpers in you know, hoodies and shit. He
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  got on saying that no, because he can't wear anything tight if you've ever
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  had surgery, even if you had that's the bb out at bb out,
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  they can't. Oh that's crazy, even if you've had a hernia surgery.
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  Yo, you gotta put the sweatpants or something on the draw string. You
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  don't need the tight belt, Like, oh no, you know that can't
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  be true. The big pants and all the photos y'all, Like, oh,
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  so I've seen that that like some of the reactions from the from the
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  YouTubers and stuff and the internets and shout out man, because you know,
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  you know, no, make no bones about it. We we we we
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  were here to get into the algorithm, you know what I mean. We
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  gotta we we we we here too, you know, you know so,
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  But I've been watching some of the the reactions and and and some folks have
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  a point of contention. Man, he's saying the same thing Rick Ross said
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  about the ads, and you know, like that was that was whack,
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  that was lame. You know, we already heard that before. And and
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  uh it's like it's like this man, like I get that, I understand
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  that we're talking about what I don't know, four or five bars, you
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  know, like four maybe six bars at the most. You know that.
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  Okay, we heard something similar with with Ross. But I think what people
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  are forgetting with this whole well maybe they don't know, but with this whole
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  m seeing and rapping and stuff, a lot of it is how you say
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  things too. You know. It ain't just about what you say, you
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  know, shout out to the brother nas like no idea is original. You
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  know what I'm saying. It's not what you do, but how it's done.
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  Like yo, that's that's That's just what it is. We need.
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  We need to stop stop all of that, you know, like you know,
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  and and it again, like you said, we can't make people like
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  what they don't like. But it's like, yo, come on, you
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  know another another thing you know, I'm you mentioned it earlier. I'm getting
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  flashbacks with this whole situation, like m hm, yah, we've been here
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  before. We've been here before. Now only time to tell. I'm not
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  saying that this is ether time. Time will reveal, you know, but
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  we've been here. It looks similar. I remember this. I remember the
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  glazed overlooks in some folks faces, like I don't understand when ether draft,
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  I don't understand what what's the what's the big deal? It's just all right
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  to me. I remember I remember this, yo, I remember, y'all.
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  I remember I was dead, you know, And now we're getting I'm
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  seeing it again with this. Oh you know it's mid o, don't you
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  know? And it's like, yo, man, you know, only only
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  time to tell. But again when we're talking about battling and this competition between
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  two MC's, like you said, it's the bars and we could take it
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  a step furthest the rollout, it's the songs, the beats, you know,
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  all right, we got two tracks to compare to. We got two
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  rollouts to compare to, you know what, we got bars delivery to compare.
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  What are what are we? What are we talking about here? What
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  are we really talking about? Like? And I don't want to, you
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  know, derail, because I know we got much more too to to,
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  you know, to discuss. But you know, overall, man, after
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  thinking about this, I think it's gonna come down to people's like preference,
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  you know, I think it's gonna come down to people's preference. But you
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  can't wipe away history. What's done has been done you know, and you
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  know Tom Mattel and things will will come out in the in the in the
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  wash. But I think you know right now with the reactions and things like
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  that, is it's what people prefer, yeah, because I mean, honestly,
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  you know when you look when you look at the reactions to like that,
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  and then you look at the reactions to push up, it's it's not
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  necessarily a divide, but it is right. They're just certain sector fans who
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  won't who just don't like Drake. They just they don't like anything about him,
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  anything against them they are for. They just don't care. Honestly,
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  that's cool for them to have their opinion, but I don't base my opinions
• 28:15
  off of them, because I know what I like about Drake and what I
• 28:19
  listened to and the things I respect, including the battle rap stuff like back
• 28:25
  to Back and duppy freestyle and stuff like that where you got busy with it,
• 28:29
  right. But we also know people on the other side who feel the
• 28:36
  same way about Kendrick. They don't really like Kendrick and stuff like that,
• 28:38
  so they really here just to pick a side and argue on social media all
• 28:44
  day about how much money people got and who did what and rumor and speculation
• 28:49
  and what somebody said and what somebody have and they don't really even know that,
• 28:55
  like it's just wild. But I did, like I was talking to
• 29:00
  earlier, and I was just looking at responses not only from the general public
• 29:07
  but also from notable MC's who I followed, and some were committed to saying
• 29:14
  some stuff like Jay Rock talking about you know, he fried him and put
• 29:18
  him in the hot grease for six minutes and thirty some seconds and fried them
• 29:23
  crispy, and I'm like, yeah, but he's doing then, or like
• 29:29
  Shaye Nawa just saying something quick like Kendrick did that or whatever to mad Skills,
• 29:36
  saying this is what we're looking for, And honestly, I think it's
• 29:41
  what Drake is looking for also, but he was so anxious at not hearing
• 29:45
  anything, and probably like Winston for the glows and the blook, we didn't
• 29:52
  even mention the real blows because as much as to ox point, as much
• 29:56
  as he touched on things that push a t or Rick Ross have said,
• 30:03
  he still said it in a way that was impressive. But more importantly,
• 30:08
  y'all looking for new things? What about that season desists of the like that
• 30:12
  record y'all Ain't here that one. It's in the same song. There's a
• 30:18
  history with Drake that's kind of being revealed that really don't have anything to do
• 30:23
  with us. It's just from a industry standpoint. Now, let me ask
• 30:30
  you this, right, and you know, obviously we can get more into
• 30:33
  the music, but with this joint, it just feels like it's so much
• 30:36
  more than that. When you look at how people say all these guys piling
• 30:41
  up on Drake. This also happened before. It was the same thing jay
• 30:51
  Z had. Everybody came out gay Zy, they would call him everything Gayzy
• 30:56
  Cisco, and it was just like, wow, it ain't just Nas,
• 31:00
  It's an onslaught and it made you think, what is he doing that?
• 31:07
  Have all of these guys who we had no idea didn't really mess with him
• 31:10
  like that coming out and saying yeah, Nas, Like what what was it
• 31:15
  so with Drake? When you look at all this season desists and you know,
• 31:19
  blah blah blah, And also sent a feature request to Kendrick that was
• 31:26
  in the song too. What do you think about just what's being revealed beyond
• 31:34
  you know, the songs with all these you know, artists and producers going
• 31:38
  at Drake. Yeah, man, it's it's it's crazy. It's crazy,
• 31:48
  and I just doubt these things would be mentioned in the record if it just
• 31:56
  wasn't authentic, if it wasn't true. I just don't got, shorty.
• 32:01
  I don't got your doing that. I don't got you're just gonna make up
• 32:07
  the whole cease and desisting just just because it sound good. Nah. I
• 32:14
  think that that was the thing. And so that speaks to the whole scheme
• 32:19
  of Drake playing rapper. I'm playing like I'm a part of this culture.
• 32:27
  But really I hear something that somebody said that I don't like. Oh,
• 32:34
  I want to send in the lawyers and the I don't want to sit in
• 32:37
  the record label. Hey nah, they got to pull that record. Wait
• 32:43
  a minute, Wait a minute, wait a minute. You know, I
• 32:47
  thought, I thought, you know, it's time to get on the clock.
• 32:52
  When the record couldn't get pulled, It's like, okay, let me,
• 32:57
  well, let me dial up so and so to get me over some
• 33:00
  some some eat so I can respond to dude. You know, Okay,
• 33:05
  I'm showing my my my I guess my bias because I think that that's what
• 33:12
  happened. I mean, we know that Drake has a history of ghost writers,
• 33:16
  so I think that that's what I think that's what happened. Sorry,
• 33:22
  but I'm not sorry. You know that. You know, so when the
• 33:27
  season decist didn't work, it's like, Okay, now now you have to
• 33:31
  fight. You gotta fight, you gotta come out the porch. And you
• 33:36
  know, the thing is again with the season desist news, it just makes
• 33:45
  it disingenuous because from the beginning when when Drake responded listen, I did not
• 33:52
  like to roll out. I thought all of that was corny. I thought
• 33:57
  all of that was whack the whole ai. Oh you know that wasn't the
• 34:00
  full track. I just did not like it. Okay, but I respect
• 34:08
  that he responded and he came he came back with a response. I do
• 34:15
  respect that, but then to hear that there was a cease and desist,
• 34:23
  then it just for me, it just nullifies. It's again, you just
• 34:30
  planning that you play at this culture and you're not really you. You're not
• 34:37
  who you are who you portray yourself to be. Yeah, it's it's really
• 34:45
  bad because for anybody watching, especially one particular dude who pulled up in my
• 34:52
  last episode and said, you know, I got a man crush on Kendrick.
• 34:57
  I just thank him for his common thanks for pulling up you already,
• 35:00
  we already got your money at the door. Okay, I have fun.
• 35:05
  We we don't acknowledge you, okay. But what I want people to get
• 35:10
  from this is these are the things that are being peeled back about a person
• 35:15
  that is trying to cover up things, because that's what you're doing. When
• 35:20
  you do that, You're trying to stop something from becoming bigger than you and
• 35:25
  impacting your situation, your music when it should really be about that. Like
• 35:31
  honestly, if Drake didn't respond and he dropped a two step jam, I'll
• 35:37
  just be like, well he bowed out, but this joint does sound crazy?
• 35:42
  Yeah, he back on right, get your money. I'm not mad
• 35:46
  at this is what you do. He us dancing and what I waving a
• 35:51
  head right right? Just know when you step off the plane, extortion is
• 35:58
  my middle name or whatever he's that, so you know Calli's no fly zone
• 36:04
  Drake. Sorry, but yeah, I mean one of one of the things.
• 36:08
  Also that it again a song with some of these things that are more
• 36:15
  revealing than the jokes within Kendrick's disk because people like to hang on to that
• 36:21
  because I get it. It's funny me too. I like humor. But
• 36:25
  just having major podcasters say, yo, I just text Drake he said that
• 36:32
  was like, Drake just text me back, said it got some nuclear for
• 36:37
  him. That's a play in itself, because you know these casts have followings.
• 36:45
  You're sending the record directly to them because you want them to do the
• 36:51
  work of you know, promoting and making it big and making it seem like
• 36:55
  this thing they did, Yeah, they did job, you know, as
• 37:00
  far as that. But now, for example, using academics, because I
• 37:06
  gotta give him a shout out, Like I felt like if I could go
• 37:08
  to him, I know what's real at least, you know, and to
• 37:14
  look at random posts and to watch him get the Drake disc this, and
• 37:21
  you know, he playing and he's breaking it down, and then he get
• 37:23
  the Rick Ross disc directly from Ross and he playing that and breaking it down.
• 37:30
  But Kendrick like, nah, you get me. And then it puts
• 37:36
  everybody back in in space of neutrality, and like, Okay, you go
• 37:40
  to the store just like we go to store. You go listen just like
• 37:44
  we listen or we listen together, and it just to me, it it
• 37:50
  just doesn't look good for Drake to have all these other antics in it when
• 37:55
  it should just be about the bars. Like what we say everybody a student
• 38:00
  of the game to a real student, pull up, this is what a
• 38:05
  real student does like and you know, like, I know, Drake,
• 38:09
  you probably got another one. But before I even say that, let's let's
• 38:17
  really like, let's talk about not necessarily responses. But well, yeah,
• 38:24
  let's get into that because I don't want to talk about this other thing to
• 38:28
  the end. But let's just talk about basically where Drake is at this point.
• 38:35
  When a record like this happens and it feels like the majority of the
• 38:40
  community of hip hop fans is looking at it like, wait, hold up,
• 38:45
  am I frozen? No? You're not frozen? Okay, I'll cut
• 38:49
  that out forty when it looks like the majority of hip hop is responding positive
• 38:57
  positively and breaking down everything and saying you lost, but more importantly, whatever
• 39:05
  you were holding on to, there's a lot of things you have to address.
• 39:08
  And I'm gonna just say a few real quick right before become the UI,
• 39:13
  because there are things that you haven't addressed, like, we get it
• 39:16
  something. You just heard the song, Drake. So there's some stuff you
• 39:20
  gotta addressed. But there's a couple of themes, right because we know he
• 39:24
  probably addressed his son's situation by taking a lot of photos with him, right.
• 39:30
  You know, hey, y'all, here you go, he with me,
• 39:35
  thanks pusher, you know, with me and my son's life. You
• 39:39
  know, outside you know, not that he wouldn't have done that, but
• 39:44
  you know now you had no choice, you know, because now people don't
• 39:46
  put your business out there. But that the ads he can address it if
• 39:52
  you want to or not. He probably won't. But most importantly the end
• 40:00
  word. Rick Ross's talking about what he only referred to you as white boy
• 40:06
  now and then Kendrick like, I don't really like when he say the end
• 40:09
  word. Maybe it's just me. We don't want to hear you say the
• 40:16
  N word again. I how does this if you? If you and Drakes
• 40:22
  Camp and he like yo, I need the ghostwriters to form like votron.
• 40:29
  I how do I respond to some of these allegations? Hmmm? I mean
• 40:42
  I think what he may do, he's gonna try, he may and he
• 40:51
  may not. But what I think what typically what they may do is just
• 40:59
  try to come back with you trying to acknowledge like, oh you woke,
• 41:04
  you got these woke bars, you woke. Won't want to hear none of
• 41:07
  that woke. I think that's what they made. That may be the angle,
• 41:15
  but it's like, I'm not sure that that's gonna that's gonna work.
• 41:22
  Like the you know, the cat is out of the is out of the
• 41:25
  bag, like you, that aspect about you. We just keep shining the
• 41:35
  shining the light on it. And like you said, it hasn't been a
• 41:38
  dressed like right, and it's this this whole theme of a black face,
• 41:45
  like yo, you're putting on like you really not. You're not You're not
• 41:55
  You're not one of us. You're just trying to play like you playing like
• 41:59
  what you think with this this culture is like, Okay, this is what
• 42:06
  they would like and I mean not what they would like. I guess they
• 42:10
  do like it because you know with with h what is that sexy red?
• 42:16
  You know she's successful, she she popping right now. So I guess that
• 42:22
  that's his example, that's what he could point to. But even with that,
• 42:28
  with you know Kendrick addressing that in a roundabout way like, yo,
• 42:34
  you you're giving props and you you you you you you you speaking on these
• 42:40
  relationships and you you you like you, you're promoting all the messy stuff,
• 42:46
  and y know, we ain't. We ain't really we ain't feeling that.
• 42:51
  So again, if it's Drake's can't they probably gonna come back like you won't.
• 42:58
  We don't want to hear none of that dog, you know, And
• 43:00
  it's like, I don't think you can get that off. Yeah, no,
• 43:07
  it'd be tough to get that off because he said so much, right,
• 43:09
  because if you try to make it woke, well what's woke about telling
• 43:15
  you there's a no fly zone? You're gonna get extorted soon as you step
• 43:16
  off the plane, Like what are you gonna say? Hey, love me
• 43:22
  and CALLI? When he's like, yo, we don't like y'all, and
• 43:27
  he using Canadian slang like like keep him up there, don't come around here.
• 43:37
  We don't care if you don't like the West Coast. We good,
• 43:39
  Like it's just to me in a lot of ways, just really quick kind
• 43:45
  of doubling back, like because the ghostwriter thing was another thing he's never really
• 43:51
  completely openly addressed. Yeah, most rapids could be like, Yo, my
• 43:54
  pen game is insane or something like that. But Yo, you got Yachty
• 43:59
  right for you like my like you, he need the sauce, Like you
• 44:13
  clearly need the sauce, yo, So what do you? Like? You?
• 44:19
  You and and push ups you. You was fighting back and it looked
• 44:23
  like like yo, you know, I'm the one you come to for the
• 44:28
  hits. Like so he was fighting back like nah, I'm I'm the sauce.
• 44:32
  But it's like, no, you're not the sauce if you need yo,
• 44:37
  Like the reference track is out there, so you're not really the sauce
• 44:43
  like that, like you he out with the sauce. It kind of explains
• 44:47
  a lot too, because on this podcast, I've given Lil Yachty a lot
• 44:52
  of grief. He's just becoming the post child for what I think is whack
• 44:57
  and new right, and especially when he was like, Yo, I'm this,
• 45:02
  I'm not. But I know why he's saying that, because if you
• 45:06
  writing hit records for this dude and your own may not be popping. But
• 45:10
  you know, yo, I've wrote that, y'all love that record. I
• 45:14
  wrote that. You feel some kind of way like yo, you know,
• 45:20
  like the worst thing that can happen to Drake is if that dude start talking.
• 45:23
  Oh no, you know what I'm saying. You want to get started?
• 45:29
  I wrote this, wrote that, blah blah blah, And I think
• 45:35
  one of the things I wanted to say, as far as like the exposure
• 45:37
  of Drake, you know, his tactics have been seen even on lower levels
• 45:44
  right and in some cases rightfully. So I feel like, yeah, you
• 45:47
  know Boxing as an example, you can watch whatever whatever you want to watch
• 45:53
  from Boxing on YouTube free of charge. It ain't tied to nothing, right,
• 46:00
  Yeah, maybe they got to blank out of HBO or showtime here,
• 46:04
  but there's just no license situation taming that in a way it is for like
• 46:08
  a WWE or UFC or NBA stuff like that, people have to license that
• 46:15
  stuff to use it. And with Drake, you use a beat on social
• 46:21
  media, it's going down or it's getting flagged. So I get it for
• 46:25
  him, you know, I don't think nothing's wrong with that, but I
• 46:30
  think once you start to again use it, similar to the j Cole thing,
• 46:35
  using that legal leverage to try to get things to happen, but then
• 46:40
  posing like I'm this casual and all I care about is my pen game and
• 46:46
  y'all don't know, but you're using other tactics and some people will say,
• 46:51
  well, it's chest not checkers, nah man, we never believed in that
• 46:53
  jay Z won the war stuff. It's stupid because he didn't just apologize back
• 46:59
  then, and he apologized recently right at a show where he was like,
• 47:05
  I should have never done that because he cared about hip hop. Now we
• 47:09
  happy it happened because it was a dope battle. But again with somebody like
• 47:16
  Drake, it's just exposing aside to him that he know. That's why cease
• 47:21
  and desists is damaging to his image. You know, it could make people
• 47:28
  like, yo, you're not really full of culture. And with the N
• 47:31
  word situation, when I first saw the video, he used it like my
• 47:37
  son would say, he no, he used a hard geer when you start,
• 47:45
  why are you talking like that? You know me and my niggers like,
• 47:51
  really, that's you just really did you missed? You failed to test
• 47:57
  in your black class or whatever. And it's documented, it's documented and top
• 48:02
  every time. And that's exactly why Kendrick was like, I don't really like
• 48:07
  he literally took a break in the song I don't really like when he say
• 48:12
  that, Like, I don't like the way he sounds when he says that.
• 48:16
  Maybe he ain't that deep. But I hate it right right, I
• 48:21
  hate that. I just hate the way I don't. Yeah, it's it's
• 48:25
  crazy too, because again, those are the things that resonate with people and
• 48:31
  it becomes relatable. Right. Like, again, we're fans of hip hop.
• 48:36
  So if if Drake hits you with a bar that flipped something Kendrick says
• 48:42
  in l way, we're gonna be like that one was mean, right then?
• 48:45
  Yeah, that old Mike, Mike Jack, what do you say?
• 48:51
  What do you say? What's what's the uh? What's that? What's a
• 48:53
  prince to a king? Son? That was hard? Right right? That
• 49:00
  was And that's the kind of thing we expected, you know what I'm saying.
• 49:06
  But when a dude brings in this is why you got to address it,
• 49:09
  Drake, When a dude brings in the integrity of your pen game.
• 49:15
  By having ghostwriters, it just makes future and metro Booman's bar even better.
• 49:22
  We don't trust you. We don't even know if you wrote that, because
• 49:28
  what else is documented. He's been singing with some of the greatest ghostwriters of
• 49:32
  all time. He even was hanging around that scene for a minute and it
• 49:39
  was well known, and they would never say that because a bag is a
• 49:43
  bag. You know, some of that hip hop off what's coming from them,
• 49:51
  you know, but it's it's insane when you think about it, because
• 49:55
  again it's hip hop. We all enjoyed hit the like button. Men here,
• 50:00
  let us know what you think about some of the things we're saying.
• 50:04
  So let me ask you this. You kind of touched on it earlier.
• 50:10
  When it's all said and done, is this one of the best disc records
• 50:15
  of all time? Or do we anticipate that coming from either Drake or Kendrick.
• 50:23
  Wow, is it the best of one of the best of all time?
• 50:31
  I think I think you gotta give it time. I mean, I
• 50:37
  know I like to listen to it. I know it's a it's a dope
• 50:45
  song, best of all time? Man, I don't know. I don't
• 50:58
  know, man, I don't know. I think I think Drake could respond,
• 51:07
  but I don't. I don't have him responding with the the best.
• 51:14
  If he does, I would be impressed. Well, I just I don't
• 51:20
  see it. I don't see it based on push ups. I don't see
• 51:24
  it. I see with this record this now when you it's it's again,
• 51:31
  I'm getting ether vibes. This is another vocabulary word within the lexicon of hip
• 51:39
  hop. Now only time of tell if it's gonna have that last thing.
• 51:45
  But I'm getting that vibe. Now, every time you see that word,
• 51:51
  we gotta attribute it to him. Now that's just what it is. Now.
• 51:55
  Yeah, I think we already did. To be honest, Yeah,
• 51:59
  I think that. I think that's what it is. Like you're gonna think
• 52:02
  of, You're gonna think of you're in this culture, You're gonna think of
• 52:07
  damn. Yeah, remember when when when Kendrick got that. Yeah, that's
• 52:12
  when when Kendrick got at Drake. I. Again, when we're looking at
• 52:17
  rollout and things like that, push ups is not giving me the same.
• 52:21
  It's not giving like the young it's not giving me that, you know what
• 52:28
  I mean. Euphoria Yo, that's it again in the lexicon. You know,
• 52:35
  I don't got people saying, oh you got euphoria and all of that.
• 52:37
  I don't think we're gonna take it there. But now when you see
• 52:42
  that word, it has a different association. Now, yeah, I agree,
• 52:49
  and honestly, for people watching it's it's less about what we feel about
• 52:53
  it, and really, honestly watching the reactions across the internet and and those
• 52:59
  that it's those reactions that seem honest. Honest doesn't mean you prefer Kendrick.
• 53:04
  Honest means you're really breaking down what happened and how you see it, whether
• 53:09
  it's each side. Some people can't really get with the delivery and didn't think
• 53:16
  it was that crazy. I don't see it being one of the greatest of
• 53:22
  all time because I still feel like the control verse hit me much harder than
• 53:28
  this did. I think as far as a dissection of somebody, which you
• 53:35
  know, you can say ETHERI was kind of the same thing. I just
• 53:37
  think it had a different impact because for those kids watching, the reason why
• 53:45
  some of these old heads are not impressed and calling the whole thing saw for
• 53:50
  everybody like is really because of the production, to be honest, because that's
• 53:53
  where it starts. The production is more of a vibe, a dance a
• 54:00
  most disc records weren't that, Like no Vasiline was over a dazz band,
• 54:07
  but it wasn't no party when you was listening to that music to those lyrics,
• 54:13
  you know what I'm saying you didn't say, oh, I like,
• 54:15
  you know disco jazz, I like that joint. No, it was like,
• 54:17
  did you hear what he said? So the beat or like when Jada
• 54:22
  Kiss responded to Beanie Siegel, you know, I'm stunting on you on the
• 54:25
  disco beat. It wasn't the beat. It was the fact that, like,
• 54:30
  yo, he going crazy on this joint. And I think that's what
• 54:34
  Kendrick did, and I think it's going to be memorable. I think it's
• 54:37
  one of the better disc records. But I just kind of feel like Control
• 54:44
  was just more like and I guess it was just the energy. Again,
• 54:47
  when you look at listen to the Takeover or you listen to Etha, those
• 54:52
  beats sound like something monument like there's a big battle happening. That have a
• 54:58
  big sound to him, whereas these are more like, you know, I'm
• 55:04
  flexing and I'm gonna kick a little rap about him while I'm in here vibing
• 55:07
  to this track. But I think Kendrick sitting on that one. I think
• 55:13
  he's sitting on the grimy joint because there's no and I think Drake but see,
• 55:19
  this is the thing with Drake Man because of the euphoria. There's no
• 55:27
  way you're sitting on something that addresses everything there. No, you gotta go
• 55:31
  back right, you gotta go, you gotta go, sit back down.
• 55:36
  And that I think that's what's crazy about about Kendrick is he he addressed everything
• 55:45
  I was in pushups, because you know, that's the mythic, the mythological,
• 55:52
  you know. And even I was thinking that, like, oh yeah,
• 55:54
  if he if he went in with control, you know, he probably
• 56:00
  just been laying he probably got stuff that And no, that's not what this
• 56:05
  was. This was the response to everything YO said and push ups, everything
• 56:14
  with a with a sprinkle of here's what I what I think about you initially
• 56:21
  like you got that set up in the beginning, but then everything else was
• 56:24
  like a response to what he was, to what he said, and push
• 56:29
  ups like trying to imply that you being that he's being extorted, you know,
• 56:35
  give me fifty and it's like, I don't want to hear all that.
• 56:37
  You get off the plane. That's my middle name, and then shout
• 56:44
  out, YO, shout out who you who you saying is doing that to
• 56:47
  me? So all that we just nullify all of that, you know.
• 56:53
  So and look, let's just let's just be clear. Top Dog tweeted,
• 57:00
  we remember everybody who said something where you stood, so I mean, I'm
• 57:05
  not quoting them, but he basically said that and he ain't tad it in
• 57:08
  that way like we saw everybody And I'm like, okay, so you think
• 57:16
  but again, when you sitting outside of it, we think you win it.
• 57:23
  But it's clear you sitting outside of it and trying to say, oh,
• 57:28
  this one and that one and this one, but all of them don't
• 57:34
  like you. It's it just makes it seem like you making stuff up around
• 57:40
  Yes. Man. See, at least with j Cole, he was trying
• 57:45
  to do something hip hop. He just fumbled it. And maybe that's why
• 57:51
  he apologized, because he truly was never into it. That's why he wrote
• 57:54
  that. Obviously he waited for us all to tell him it was like then
• 57:58
  he said that, but because then you would have never put it out.
• 58:02
  But with with Drake, it just feels like if he responds, it has
• 58:09
  to address these things on a certain level, like honestly, it should probably
• 58:14
  be less vicious and more honestly if he talked about more about I mean,
• 58:22
  trust me, in the hood, they not gonna care. But if he
• 58:25
  talked more about like what it's like to be a mixed child and have to
• 58:30
  deal with people telling you you not black. Oh that's a different feeling.
• 58:37
  You could you earn a couple people with that, Like damn, I never
• 58:43
  even thought about that. You know, like you can, you can literally
• 58:47
  you can turn them on your said, Drake, y'all hit me up.
• 58:51
  Hey, I need a couple of stacks. Though I don't tell nobody like
• 58:54
  you don't tell everybody else but Kendrake with you dog, But I will write
• 59:00
  against you though right now at me. You know, I'm kind of dunk
• 59:04
  skin, you know, so you got one. But you know what I'm
• 59:07
  saying, like, use that against them, right like, yo, look
• 59:15
  sunk. Get into the history, like you got a black family, tell
• 59:21
  like unless you just shunning them, tell him about that, like, Yo,
• 59:25
  my aunt t T used to do this and blah blah blah, let's
• 59:29
  get into it. I'm black too, Like go there, Yeah, I
• 59:34
  would be impressed. Yeah, but he but he can when you say me
• 59:39
  and my like you can't. Is it dead based on based on history shows?
• 59:49
  Is it there that that's the question? That is what you know?
• 59:53
  Basically with Kendrick and Rick Ross and all of it is like, was it
• 59:59
  ever there? Or this was just a you know, rap endeavor, this
• 1:00:07
  was just an initiative on your on your vision board. Well well look okay,
• 1:00:15
  let me ask you that, do you think based off of not even
• 1:00:19
  just the disc records, but just the history of this cat and things he's
• 1:00:23
  done and said and moves, do you think it was ever there or is
• 1:00:29
  it, like you know, like to your point, something that's being used
• 1:00:32
  to you know, capitalize off of basically on face value. M hmm.
• 1:00:45
  It looks like business moves to me on face value. You know, we
• 1:00:50
  go from Texas to to Patois and you know, I'm down with the Jamaican
• 1:00:55
  and it's like we're doing all this hopping around. But then on the tape
• 1:01:04
  you sound like that, and it's like if on t t and them,
• 1:01:10
  if you was really around them, like you know, you had no business,
• 1:01:17
  You had no business with things being communicated that way right right, you
• 1:01:22
  know, So it just makes me think that no, you know, this
• 1:01:27
  is it's business. It's an opportunity hip hop is there. You know,
• 1:01:32
  I've got to look, I'm talented, i could sing. It's business let's
• 1:01:38
  let's get to this, let's get to this money. You know, some
• 1:01:43
  people may go as far as to say a plant and things like that for
• 1:01:46
  those you know, those people that want to do theories and things like that,
• 1:01:51
  but it just looks like looks like business to me. You know,
• 1:01:55
  it's two different two different approaches when we're talking about the two mcs, two
• 1:02:04
  different walks of life. And I think authenticity is authenticity is in question now
• 1:02:15
  if we're saying, you know, authenticity don't matter. I just I just
• 1:02:19
  want to feel good and throw on the track and I just want to b
• 1:02:23
  bop my head. You know, if that's where we are and the culture
• 1:02:28
  now, then yo yos yo is king, you know. But if we're
• 1:02:32
  gonna get to you know, we were gonna get to the nineties, you
• 1:02:39
  know, real recognized real, keeping it real. You know, he's not
• 1:02:45
  really he's not keeping it real. If you are sending out ceasing desists on
• 1:02:52
  one hand, but then on the other hand, I'm gonna put the battle
• 1:02:55
  together. And you're telling you know, you're telling academics, oh yeah,
• 1:03:02
  that like that, and academics you know it's saying, yo, you better
• 1:03:07
  respond. You gotta respond and His response is you must not know me well
• 1:03:12
  or I'm on that like when was this was this before or after? The
• 1:03:19
  season? Desists? Right? I think you make a great point because it's
• 1:03:24
  it's fair to assume it was before because Rosenberg said this on Twitter. But
• 1:03:34
  I had already been thinking it. I just after a while was exhausted talking
• 1:03:37
  to you know, these random one track mind people. Either way, I
• 1:03:43
  didn't like how it felt like Drake was thirsty for Kendrick to say something.
• 1:03:50
  And where I'm from, where I'm from and some of you are from.
• 1:03:53
  That's nervous energy for you to constantly yo, where you at? Oh I
• 1:03:59
  got of Compton? U sweat on? Did you go to compan to get
• 1:04:02
  that yourself? Because that's that's the thing, right like this, And really
• 1:04:12
  we can't blame Drake for the antics because really fifty Cents started those kinds of
• 1:04:16
  antics with all this extra stuff around it. But he was just he was
• 1:04:20
  funny. He was funny with it, like you know, he was funny
• 1:04:26
  and authenticity. It just felt more authentic man it because I mean, you
• 1:04:33
  know, Yo was getting into knife fights and getting stab It's like, yo,
• 1:04:38
  they he really you really like out here trying to he wilding and he
• 1:04:45
  don't care. And and in one end he's kind of keeping it light and
• 1:04:48
  humorous, but on the other end there's all this danger. It's like,
• 1:04:54
  you know, we don't hear, we don't hear anything about that. You
• 1:04:58
  know, somebody might type in the comments, but you know, I don't
• 1:05:01
  remember Yo trying to put like a season desist out on Jada Kiss, Like
• 1:05:08
  YO, you got you know, I mean he threatened. He did threaten,
• 1:05:13
  like I pushed styles out, like it was like a bar, like
• 1:05:19
  not only would you know the violence, but like I'll push pushed like his
• 1:05:25
  album back, not just right right, you know so, like I got
• 1:05:30
  some juice over here, you know so. But that's the thing he put
• 1:05:35
  it in in bars. He didn't go ahead. I think some I think
• 1:05:43
  some of it though. It's like, if you look at the Rick Ross
• 1:05:45
  situation, right, he basically had a sketch comedy show going parallel to anything
• 1:05:50
  he was saying. But I think it's what a generation latches onto about the
• 1:05:57
  battle right because at one point, no rapper in the history of battle rap
• 1:06:03
  referred to sales as the reason why they was better than their counterpart. They
• 1:06:10
  just battled them and a comedy usually came from you know, how a person
• 1:06:15
  looked. You know what I'm saying. In Star Trek Shades, I think
• 1:06:18
  that's what Ell said about Kumo d and stuff like that. So it was
• 1:06:24
  but that's the nature of it, right, there is some comedy in it.
• 1:06:27
  But with Drake, he just was like, I don't know why he
• 1:06:30
  would think, knowing he does cease and desist like clockwork, that it would
• 1:06:39
  be okay at this moment in the history of music, especially when it's been
• 1:06:44
  done to him of people using your voice, your likeness without permission. And
• 1:06:50
  he knew it was wrong, But why did it come out? You know
• 1:06:54
  what I'm saying, because it was really about trying to recapture what he did
• 1:06:59
  with Back to Back. But Kendrick ain't me right, there's not a You
• 1:07:05
  can only come up with your personal opinions about him. You can't come up
• 1:07:11
  with anything that we can point at and said, yo, he is kind
• 1:07:14
  of like Twitter fingers. So that's a hard line. Yeah, Nicki Minaj
• 1:07:18
  is better? Is that your world tour, your girls toy Like, yeah,
• 1:07:23
  that's complete facts. You know you you tried, You're trying to allude
• 1:07:30
  to all these things with uh with Kendrick, But in a lot of ways,
• 1:07:34
  he's kind of plugging those holes so you can't even get in like nullifying
• 1:07:41
  it. Which it's so, you know, are we chalking this up to?
• 1:07:48
  All right? This was his rebuttal. This was the rebuttal track,
• 1:07:53
  not the response with This was the rebuttal. I think so because you look
• 1:07:58
  at it. I mean, in a lot of ways, when people were
• 1:08:00
  like, yo, he got forty eight well Kendrick got forty eight hours and
• 1:08:04
  you know, too old Drake, they were responding to a verse and they
• 1:08:13
  put out full on songs basically, or Drake put out full on songs,
• 1:08:17
  two songs just one you'll never find because it only exists anymore. Ceason desists.
• 1:08:21
  Okay, uh, but now you have a rebuttal to Drake with this
• 1:08:29
  joint, which is like six minutes, and the rumor is that it's even
• 1:08:32
  longer than that, and that's probably what we're gonna get, probably gonna get.
• 1:08:35
  We probably gonna get another beat switched to exactly what boom back on.
• 1:08:40
  Who is saying this man what is going on? Like it's an EP?
• 1:08:46
  This man made it? How Drake could come back like yo, Okay,
• 1:08:53
  no, you got a lot of time on your you're thinking about me a
• 1:08:57
  lot. You didn't made it. That's why I felt like Drake needed to
• 1:09:03
  relax. He should have just dropped push up and and just waited, Yo,
• 1:09:09
  that's my that's my light. Jab let's go. You know, constantly,
• 1:09:15
  you know, posting on social media, posting pictures of yourself with the
• 1:09:19
  Compton joined on, you know, then dropping this Ai thing and thinking it
• 1:09:24
  was gonna be ill, but it really didn't hit that way. It just
• 1:09:30
  he kind of made himself look crazy. And meanwhile Kendrick like this, oh,
• 1:09:39
  oh you're done. Okay, what where? Oh it's gone now all
• 1:09:47
  right, right, so it's on the way. I got something on the
• 1:09:53
  way like right time they took it down. Oh, the family said,
• 1:10:00
  okay, right right. Oh. The family sent over this other information about
• 1:10:05
  the ring and bah which I forgot about. For those who don't know,
• 1:10:11
  Drake purchased Tupac's ring and had like a crown on it a while back.
• 1:10:15
  So that's why Kendrick was like, you know, I'll double that, you
• 1:10:21
  know, so he can get the ring back or whatever and Tupac roll in
• 1:10:25
  his grave. Because this Canadian dude got it on and I was just like,
• 1:10:29
  who was it? A bounty on it? Am I am? I
• 1:10:32
  being to to ghetto? Am I being too? Yeah? You going to
• 1:10:35
  the hood? Go get that ring cuz I double it. I double you
• 1:10:44
  get the yeah, which speaks too like what people don't get to like battle
• 1:10:49
  rap is. Early on, it was literally like sometimes it was face to
• 1:10:55
  face but literally you know, bar for bar it and the tooth that.
• 1:11:00
  And this the reason why I blame fifty cent because it was just the antics
• 1:11:04
  around it just got heightened and then other people took it there because y'all remember
• 1:11:11
  you two. I remember there was an error where dudes wasn't even battling.
• 1:11:15
  It was just like, oh they go game right there, we're punching Homie
• 1:11:18
  in the face, and the bushes like they not forty cow not even they
• 1:11:23
  not rhyming like no, I ain't rapping. I just caught you right.
• 1:11:28
  Oh look oh this rask has in the house getting what was happening, Like,
• 1:11:32
  oh they got Homie chained like so it's it's crazy and honestly, obviously
• 1:11:41
  for anybody watching, you know, we don't want anything to happen. We
• 1:11:45
  know I'll put they call me Vegas for a reason. I'll put money on
• 1:11:50
  it. Aubrey not gonna do anything. Okay, now, who knows,
• 1:11:57
  you know, who you run with and blah blah blah, and what said
• 1:12:00
  and what could happen? Obviously we don't want none of that to happen,
• 1:12:03
  right, We we wanted to stick the wax be about bars for bars.
• 1:12:08
  But honestly, when you're doing things like sneak dissing and then sending requests for
• 1:12:16
  features, right, who knows, maybe that was bait, right, or
• 1:12:23
  maybe it was real. Maybe it was the whole reason why we had to
• 1:12:25
  watch him practically proposed to j Cole on stage when he's saying he's like the
• 1:12:30
  best rapper ever. But maybe maybe Drake was trying to piece it all up.
• 1:12:34
  Yeah, maybe that was the right. But that's that's interesting, right
• 1:12:43
  right, get out of here. Yeah, just reject you. Ah.
• 1:12:49
  So yeah, man, I think you know, uh, like, I'm
• 1:12:54
  kind of glad we did this now because I don't think Drake is gonna wait
• 1:12:59
  that long mmm for this one. I think he's just gonna go with.
• 1:13:03
  I think he's confident enough and whatever he had, and he might tweak it
• 1:13:09
  here and there, you know, obviously to dress to cease and assist the
• 1:13:14
  sist join and maybe bar here and there. But I just don't see the
• 1:13:18
  ghost writer stuff being a thing. I don't see him addressing bb L Drake
• 1:13:26
  or whatever. He might say something about Ross, but I do see him
• 1:13:30
  responding sooner rather than later, because he just seems so anxious to get going.
• 1:13:38
  Yeah, yeah, he was. He was asking for it, like,
• 1:13:44
  yeah, he really, he really wanted it. And I just wonder
• 1:13:48
  because academic was a little subdued and his energy compared to the previous stuff.
• 1:13:55
  Now he was. He was kind of on fire when it was Rick Ross.
• 1:13:58
  But I think because Rick Ross responded within two hours of Drake's this,
• 1:14:05
  all the energy was just still there. And now when I watched him,
• 1:14:10
  he was kind of I didn't watch the whole live, but he kind of
• 1:14:13
  was like reving himself up to talk about it because you don't have you don't
• 1:14:17
  have a choice. But last thing, all right, so we don't we
• 1:14:27
  don't know where this is gonna go. But I gotta be honest, even
• 1:14:30
  with this Euphorius song, I kind of wanted to stop like this. There's
• 1:14:39
  been so much around this battle from fake Ai Drake the fake Ai Kendrick and
• 1:14:45
  is it real? And people not really even battling bars anytime Stephen as using
• 1:14:53
  a segment on his shoulder talk about it. I'm already disgusted. There's no
• 1:14:59
  way he even knows hip hop on that level. It's gonna be some cliche
• 1:15:02
  stuff like he did with boxing, and I'm just gonna kind of be like,
• 1:15:08
  man, get out here. But I'm kind of I'm good like I
• 1:15:12
  don't feel like. I don't even feel like Jay Cole is done like to
• 1:15:15
  me, I just want to get back to fandom at this point. Okay,
• 1:15:18
  you said what you said. You said what you said. Even if
• 1:15:21
  y'all drop something together, I'd be happy. But what do you think?
• 1:15:26
  I like? Where does this battle, even at this point, rank amongst
• 1:15:33
  you know, battle rap or do you just feel like you know it's cool?
• 1:15:39
  Now? Are you put it this way? You don't necessarily obviously have
• 1:15:44
  to feel the way I feel. But do you want to hear more?
• 1:15:47
  You know? Or you wanted to continue? Basically, yo, man,
• 1:15:53
  I think it's a good battle. Really don't need to hear anymore right there
• 1:16:02
  with you? I hate for this to stream to end on that note,
• 1:16:08
  But you know we yo, we just got to call a spade a spade.
• 1:16:12
  People when we're talking about who can rap better, I think it's it's
• 1:16:15
  obvious who can rap better. It just feels like now what I'm seeing,
• 1:16:23
  you know, with the online and you know, okay, that was light,
• 1:16:28
  that was mid that was we yo. We we're not gonna drag this
• 1:16:32
  out, you know, like this isn't what's the joints back in the days
• 1:16:39
  the peak Cutter. I don't need a whole peak Cutter tape of all uh
• 1:16:47
  Drake versus Kendrick. I don't need. I don't need that. I don't
• 1:16:53
  need that. I think it's obvious who technically can can rap, who has
• 1:17:01
  the technical advantage. I think it's obvious who has the popularity and the hit
• 1:17:10
  making advantage. I think that that's obvious. I think that that's there.
• 1:17:15
  We're talking about getting getting these things off your chest as far as who's the
• 1:17:18
  better m c yo, man, it's for me, it's there. It
• 1:17:27
  kind of stops at the at the whole ghost writing and it stopped right there
• 1:17:32
  like it's over at that point. Now we just yo, I got I
• 1:17:40
  gotta keep it one hundred and now we're just giving the internet something to react
• 1:17:45
  to, you know, and the Internet is a part of the culture.
• 1:17:49
  See now I'm getting on my old man, you know what I mean.
• 1:17:53
  Now all the gray and all the yo you from the nineteen hundreds, Now
• 1:17:57
  all that's gonna come out, you know, yo man, Like we get
• 1:18:00
  into the I just I just want something to react to. Now, give
• 1:18:04
  me the next thing that I can put the thumbnail. Well I'm you know,
• 1:18:09
  oh my gosh, Like, give me the next thing. But where
• 1:18:12
  are we? Where is this going? Like when the NFL is gonna be
• 1:18:17
  satisfied that? Okay, they said what they said, who is the clearly
• 1:18:24
  the better rapper? I think you got that between the two tracks, now
• 1:18:30
  right, I think you got it. Oh no, you know that was
• 1:18:33
  mad. You know, we're gonna get the next like you know how many
• 1:18:36
  of these we gotta do? Yeah, I mean when you think about it,
• 1:18:42
  since people like to compare, and I like how you basically looked at
• 1:18:47
  what Drake was good at and why he's top at what he does for that,
• 1:18:51
  and what Kendrick is good at and why he's better than him in that
• 1:18:55
  regard. Because, again, to use another boxing analogy, styles make fights
• 1:19:01
  that's not a cliche. That's what makes this interesting because they're so different in
• 1:19:09
  their origins, they're so different in their delivery, their fan bases, what
• 1:19:14
  the expectations of these fan bases are, and that's kind of why you want
• 1:19:17
  to see it, and they're the biggest ones to do it. J Cole
• 1:19:23
  just basically decided that they wanted to I'm out, and which is terrible because
• 1:19:32
  I'm like, he the one we really we really want a matchup. It
• 1:19:39
  was those two. If we talk about he got it, who's going to
• 1:19:44
  win? Yeah, But I mean to your to your point again, I
• 1:19:51
  just kind of feel like, and maybe I'm just looking at too much social
• 1:19:58
  media, but a lot of ways I have to for my podcast and to
• 1:20:01
  you know, kind of absorb what people are saying. But it is that
• 1:20:06
  because it's the same thing with the music. An album can be great like
• 1:20:11
  Mister Morale and the Big Steppers, and it's all I see people talking about
• 1:20:15
  favorably on social media, and then the next week they're not talking about it.
• 1:20:21
  Well right, And a week after that, a dude pops up.
• 1:20:27
  Was it really hot? And that's where that's just where we are. You
• 1:20:30
  know, nobody the Internet culture, you know, is the again where we
• 1:20:40
  where we reacting. You know, we're reacting and we need something else to
• 1:20:47
  react to. You know, so yo, drop drop another one, keep
• 1:20:53
  dropping them, and then you know then we got to keep it one hundred
• 1:20:57
  get back on my old man, and we got even want it because you
• 1:21:02
  know, people eating off of that eating. You know, keep doing it,
• 1:21:09
  keep doing the bake breakdowns like I do as many breakdowns as I got
• 1:21:13
  to, just keep them, keep them rolling. It's like yo, like
• 1:21:18
  even doing breakdowns for the fake tracks. Come on, man, like I
• 1:21:26
  and look, some people just got to understand this internet culture, specifically YouTube.
• 1:21:32
  It's just what they do. Like they you know, content creators literally
• 1:21:38
  are looking for hot topics. Obviously we're making content, but this is not
• 1:21:45
  something I do all the time. Because this is important for hip hop.
• 1:21:49
  People were talking about bars. It is what we do, right, So
• 1:21:54
  the breakdown is necessary also to add a little contact to some of these things
• 1:22:01
  instead of it just being a hot topic that we cover because we want to
• 1:22:05
  hit the SEO properly and get everybody to jump in and you know, get
• 1:22:11
  them numbers ran up and put them ads on there. Yeah, subscribe button
• 1:22:16
  and get them brand deals. Yeah, did the episode on Drake Versus Kendrick
• 1:22:21
  where it broke down to we don't want to hear all that put our ad
• 1:22:26
  in the middle of your joint. That's just that's the that's what's happening,
• 1:22:30
  y'all. And then you've got the lower level ones on social media who will
• 1:22:34
  constantly just rip your thing and put it there and then create a discussion around
• 1:22:41
  there and monetize theirs. So it's it's all a game, and it's unfortunate
• 1:22:45
  because everybody can't be a content creator on the same level. Yeah, you
• 1:22:51
  know, and let me ask it's like you're you're, you're we're starting this
• 1:22:58
  whole notion of the MC's like you're you're you're approaching them or you're wanting the
• 1:23:06
  same want from them like their content creators. Like, Yo, I'm gonna
• 1:23:13
  just drop a live right down just this his whole family, Like that's how
• 1:23:16
  I'm gonna do it, Like and then you will get hyped for that,
• 1:23:21
  like it's like we're starting to go down that road, Like is that the
• 1:23:26
  expectation? You know? Like really like how many more of these? And
• 1:23:30
  then with the timing, yo on the clock? Yo, he got fifteen
• 1:23:36
  minutes. He don't, he don't do that. He lost. I'm gonna
• 1:23:42
  come out with the with the with the video and the thumbnail failed, you
• 1:23:45
  know, like, what is what is happening? What is happening here?
• 1:23:50
  You know? So and I again I can't I can't stop if that's that's
• 1:23:57
  where where it's going, and that's what the coach is, I can't stop
• 1:24:00
  it. But you know, I speak to my observations or what I'm seeing,
• 1:24:05
  you know. And and the thing is that's what I can again appreciate
• 1:24:11
  about both of them c's in this. It's like they are meeting the culture
• 1:24:20
  where they where it is, and even with their sounds like they're not trying
• 1:24:29
  to Like you said, Yo, let me, let me go back to
• 1:24:30
  the dungeons and just like no, like Yo, this is where this is
• 1:24:36
  my sound, This is where I'm at. Well, this is my signature
• 1:24:40
  sound, and this is how I'm going to approach this, this battle,
• 1:24:45
  which I think that's the essence of a hip hop. Like Yo, we
• 1:24:48
  get back to the ghost you know, the ghosts the shop. But I
• 1:24:51
  don't want nobody sounded like me on no album, right, and we we
• 1:24:58
  kind of we kind of getting that Drake, you kind of you messed it
• 1:25:00
  up with the AI stuff. It was all right, but then you did
• 1:25:05
  the Now you sounded like pop, but you sounded like snoop And then you
• 1:25:10
  want to jump back on and do your so you know you got the made
• 1:25:14
  up you know that that's where he kind of went left. But at least
• 1:25:20
  you know with the push ups. Yeah that was yo, Okay, that
• 1:25:27
  sounds like a Drake track Like that sounds like something he would rhyme. Two
• 1:25:32
  the cadences him like this is his style. He's in battle mode like yo,
• 1:25:39
  he get he get points for all of that, like he get props
• 1:25:42
  for all of that. And then again with you know, Kendrick coming back
• 1:25:46
  like yo, the rebuttal, this is my style. This is how I
• 1:25:51
  wrap. Now. It's got shades of you know what you say, the
• 1:25:56
  alien voices, got shades of that that's in it. So it's authentically him,
• 1:26:02
  you know. So yeah, man, I don't it'd be interested.
• 1:26:09
  I'm interested and where this would end or how how much does you know the
• 1:26:18
  hip hop community? How uh how long do they expect this to continue?
• 1:26:26
  You know, before we declare a winner? And what if you never get
• 1:26:31
  that Yo, It's just it's not the ether. I'm looking what if you
• 1:26:36
  never get it? Then? What what if it never never hits like that?
• 1:26:44
  See, now I want to keep this. We gotta keep it.
• 1:26:48
  We gotta keep it a certain way for the for the children, you know.
• 1:26:54
  But now this is this is this is really some crackhead behavior. You're
• 1:26:58
  chasing the hide that you're never gonna get ever again like that was that was
• 1:27:05
  for them when you first got it, that was for them. This is
• 1:27:10
  a new wave. It's a new day, it's a new batch. It
• 1:27:14
  ain't gonna hit like but for somebody that's coming up in the culture now that's
• 1:27:19
  our age that well, that's you know, within that that age bracket,
• 1:27:26
  that younger age bracket where it's happening for them in real time. They don't
• 1:27:30
  have a maybe like a history to go off of for them. This is
• 1:27:34
  that this is that hit for them. So again we'll see over time whether
• 1:27:42
  you fought where where it lands it could be it could be there, you
• 1:27:48
  know, ether for that generation out of that because you know, I think
• 1:27:56
  about it, like for those folks, you know, was was ether takeover?
• 1:28:02
  Was that the same for those folks? As if you know when we're
• 1:28:09
  talking about you know, the bridges over and and was that kill that noise
• 1:28:18
  and all that stuff? Like did they look at you know, the folks
• 1:28:25
  that were at that were adults and then at their prime, you know,
• 1:28:28
  their twenties and stuff when that stuff came out back then? Were they hip
• 1:28:33
  to what was going on with ether and takeover? Where they like, yo,
• 1:28:39
  we got what were they in it like that? Where they I'm glad
• 1:28:43
  you said that because I'm gonna I'm gonna tell you the exhibit A. My
• 1:28:46
  my older brother, he's ten years older than me. I'm forty seven,
• 1:28:51
  so he'll be fifty seven in December. Sham was finished back in his day.
• 1:29:00
  Shaan was done, Busy Be was done when Kumo d smoked them.
• 1:29:04
  He was done back in his days. My brother is you would have thought
• 1:29:10
  Ether came out yesterday. Now that he has the context and has really listened
• 1:29:15
  to it, he can't stop talking about it. But when it was happening,
• 1:29:20
  we weren't having that discussion like that. I don't think we had it
• 1:29:25
  at all, to be honest, I think now he's been able to absorb
• 1:29:30
  and it's probably because the streaming services, right, you tell somebody, Yo,
• 1:29:33
  you need to listen to this and this, and they could just pop
• 1:29:36
  it right up back then. You know who played it is on the radio.
• 1:29:42
  You know I ain't gonna go buy it to listen to it, you
• 1:29:45
  know what I'm saying. So let alone by the whole album to listen to
• 1:29:48
  Etho or Takeover. So to your point, I think that's the key,
• 1:29:55
  because you know not to be labor this point, but because it our generation
• 1:30:00
  also. But what y'all gotta understand is this happens with every generation. You're
• 1:30:06
  watching the NBA. You hate the fucking you hate all of this. It
• 1:30:11
  ain't your error, dog, They're not grading on the same scale. They
• 1:30:16
  You can't talk to them about Michael Jordan like until they blew in the face
• 1:30:23
  because you watched them. I remember watching Michael Jordan feeling like he doesn't miss
• 1:30:27
  even though he does miss it, like he never missed, Like, oh,
• 1:30:32
  that's going in like every time. Right. So when they see Lebron
• 1:30:36
  and they know he got the all time points of record and he doing things
• 1:30:44
  at the age you're not supposed to do, they like this the goat,
• 1:30:47
  you know what I'm saying. But there was a generation before us. That
• 1:30:50
  was like doctor Jay's the goat for re cat the goat, the captain the
• 1:30:57
  goat, like like it just happens. And I like the point about all
• 1:31:02
  that way making about analyzing these two records having those types of beats because it's
• 1:31:11
  just going to be pleasing to them, Like I could bypass it because I
• 1:31:14
  ain't gonna From when the record first started Euphoria, I was kind of like,
• 1:31:18
  come on, Kendrick now, like dog, like with the slow mode
• 1:31:23
  with the alien voices, like dog, I don't want to I don't want
• 1:31:27
  to be those guys who are explaining. Well, what he was trying to
• 1:31:30
  do was I don't want to be that dog. I'm just ready for you
• 1:31:35
  to go in. Right you hear them horns, it's like, oh,
• 1:31:41
  there they go, like they go fazed. Right then it was like,
• 1:31:46
  oh now it's go time. Okay. And it wasn't until later when he
• 1:31:50
  said, can I make him bleed? Did I make him bleed yet?
• 1:31:54
  Okay, let's make it bleed, like oh, you're waiting more so in
• 1:32:00
  a lot of ways, again, I said it earlier. He's not only
• 1:32:05
  addressing points or you know, or basically put out a rebuttal to what Drake
• 1:32:13
  has put out and even you know, lightly what Cole has said. He's
• 1:32:17
  also bringing up new things. He's also doubling down on things that probably would
• 1:32:24
  push your tea. You kind of, you know, scurried it off,
• 1:32:28
  like, oh, he got a son. Okay, we over that his
• 1:32:30
  son is cute, and no, no, no, no, I wake
• 1:32:33
  my son up myself. If you're father and you ain't always gone, you
• 1:32:44
  know, especially if you didn't have a father to wake you up, you
• 1:32:47
  know the difference of how important that is, especially to black men. So
• 1:32:55
  in a lot of ways, it's just a or a deeper experience to hear
• 1:33:01
  somebody make a number of a point, a number of points that aren't just
• 1:33:06
  slander about somebody or just loose accusations. Things start to tie up. There's
• 1:33:14
  just nothing about Kendrick that we've heard that's kind of been you know, the
• 1:33:20
  secrets here and in as you kind of hear whispers of that, Kendrick just
• 1:33:25
  blows out and say, yeah, but y'all didn't know this. And I'm
• 1:33:28
  pretty sure there's something he gonna say a line or whatever that we won't really
• 1:33:32
  have any knowledge of. That we can just have to take at face value
• 1:33:35
  and say, oh I didn't know Kendrick was paying that guy or whatever the
• 1:33:41
  case. But this is six minutes and thirty some seconds of just dissection,
• 1:33:48
  basically and honestly to your point, when does it stop out? My old
• 1:33:58
  man kicked in. Maybe that's why I'm even hyped. I'm like, I'm
• 1:34:01
  done, right, I don't care if Kendrick say something else. I don't
• 1:34:08
  care if Drake say something else to me. This is sufficient now, since
• 1:34:13
  you wasn't on this other episode and we talked about it a lot, I
• 1:34:17
  just wanted to ask you this question. But this pertaining to j Cole before
• 1:34:20
  we get up out of here, everybody obviously says JA Cole apologized. You
• 1:34:29
  know, maybe he was right, you know, maybe he get out the
• 1:34:32
  way all of that stuff. Well, what do you think, Like,
• 1:34:36
  what can J Cole do next? Like does he have to address any of
• 1:34:43
  this at some point? Oh? Man, he drop his music unscathed from
• 1:34:48
  public scrutiny. Yo, man, I'm gonna sound horrible. I don't think
• 1:35:00
  I think he better just leave it alone. Just be done. You said
• 1:35:05
  you was done. Be done. Don't go back into don't open up the
• 1:35:13
  box. Don't you know I was sitting back and I was listening to I
• 1:35:18
  don't want to hear none of it. Don't do that. Don't you not
• 1:35:25
  do that? YO. Listen. At first, I was I was being
• 1:35:30
  a little a little hard body on YO, like you know, pause,
• 1:35:36
  But I was just like, Yo, Okay, I don't want to hear
• 1:35:41
  nothing but PM don raps from from cold from here on out, I'm not
• 1:35:45
  going I ain't. I'm not gonna go that hard like YO, do do
• 1:35:49
  your thing. You know what I'm saying, do your thing, rap your
• 1:35:54
  wrap your wraps, because we kind of see and even with this YO,
• 1:36:00
  I think with this response, I think Kendrick kind of gave him out.
• 1:36:06
  He got at him, he gave him a little jack, but he gave
• 1:36:11
  him out too, like, Hey, this was you know, this was
• 1:36:15
  just you know, friendly, you know, friendly spawn friendly. I forget
• 1:36:19
  what Zach Barr was, but yeah, he's alluding to that, like,
• 1:36:26
  Yo, man, it was it was just just rap. So now that
• 1:36:30
  kind of allows him to, YO, just just go go do your wraps,
• 1:36:34
  Go go do it, handle your business, you know. But I
• 1:36:41
  don't want to hear yo. You know. I was sitting back and I
• 1:36:44
  was listening to the No. I don't want to hear that, because the
• 1:36:50
  side of history that you're on, you're the guy that said, Yo,
• 1:36:55
  i't you know, I don't want no problems. I don't want nothing,
• 1:37:00
  So cool, keep it the way you don't want no problems, Wrap your
• 1:37:04
  raps. I don't want to hear no rap up about it. I don't
• 1:37:08
  want to hear your perspective on it. I don't want it. I don't
• 1:37:11
  want to hear none of that. I'm cool. I'm sorry, yo,
• 1:37:15
  I just don't just wrap your rap your raps, yo. Just you know,
• 1:37:20
  and we can because the thing is now we clearly kind of see that
• 1:37:29
  who all the smoke was really for. So just just let it be that
• 1:37:32
  then, like yo, man, that's that's y'all. Yo. Let it
• 1:37:36
  really be that, and you just get back to your raps. You know,
• 1:37:42
  is it gonna hit? Is it gonna take a hit? Will people
• 1:37:46
  maybe expect that? Like, yo, well, you gotta say something.
• 1:37:51
  And I think he just needed to just do his thing, man, just
• 1:37:56
  make some great songs, some great music, a hit with with dead all
• 1:38:02
  of it, right, you know what I mean? He had a hit
• 1:38:05
  record, you know, but what's that? What's that these days, you
• 1:38:12
  know, but if he if he had that, then he would be in
• 1:38:15
  the clear. But yeah, man, I think where it goes from here,
• 1:38:21
  just wrap, just do your thing, Dreamville, continue to feed your
• 1:38:28
  base because they're there. I don't think I would hope he didn't lose his
• 1:38:33
  hardcore fans or was hardcore base. I think they will still rock with him.
• 1:38:41
  I think so too. I think in a lot of ways, like
• 1:38:44
  you know, when we did you know, well, any of the coverage
• 1:38:47
  I did on it, especially after the apology, you know, it's kind
• 1:38:53
  of like how we felt in the moment, because like it's a battle.
• 1:38:56
  It's not gonna give it's gonna be this, It's not gonna be that,
• 1:39:00
  especially with you, right because I don't I don't think he got that kind
• 1:39:03
  of scheme for you. But I know it kept me from listening to Mike
• 1:39:11
  delete later because he really it really kind of took the wind out of a
• 1:39:16
  brother sales. I was just kind of like, man, I can't like,
• 1:39:20
  I can't press play on it right now because the minute he'd be like,
• 1:39:25
  I'm the goat, the g to I'm like, yo, because you
• 1:39:31
  you not like let me have to remove all goat bars right from number one,
• 1:39:39
  big tha, right, you would literally you literally have to take and
• 1:39:45
  he's very possible because not all his songs are about being number one. Just
• 1:39:50
  focus on the world around you. There's a lot to talk about, you
• 1:39:56
  know, like there's a lot you could talk about and and in that way,
• 1:40:01
  you'd be making a statement about your status in this game. And it's
• 1:40:06
  a part of the Big Three, and the back and forth will seem silly
• 1:40:11
  as a result, in my opinion. So I feel like, yeah,
• 1:40:15
  like I think because of the way he bowed out, you know, we're
• 1:40:18
  not angry hip hop haids who are like, nah, you know you ain't
• 1:40:24
  want that smoke Like yo, he made a dear Mama too that Nah,
• 1:40:27
  he ain't want that. We not like that, right, We don't need
• 1:40:32
  no hugs. We got knife work, gun work, like we have all
• 1:40:36
  kinds of work. Like, we're not like that. It's just that,
• 1:40:42
  you know, it was it was a huge disappointment, and I agree with
• 1:40:45
  you. I just feel like, just make your music. And you know,
• 1:40:49
  it's the same thing with these guys, like this is the unfortunate part.
• 1:40:56
  The Internet ain't gonna let it go though, Dang, you want Aubrey
• 1:41:00
  pop up with a new hop and we like, yo, it's summertime.
• 1:41:04
  I kind of like this joint. Somebody would be like, nah, that
• 1:41:09
  euphoria. Though as soon as Kendry pop up, Yo five yo. He
• 1:41:15
  cooked while he took so long, it's not gonna go away. But just
• 1:41:23
  like Nons and jay Z haven't And just for y'all who don't know, there
• 1:41:27
  are people to this day who will sway up and down that jay Z won
• 1:41:31
  and it was a good battle, and really it was only a verse when
• 1:41:36
  you think about Takeover. It was a verse amount, nots ether was an
• 1:41:40
  entire song, but it was so overwhelming that it was like even jay Z
• 1:41:45
  fumble, like it was get super ugly, beat the commas on your baby
• 1:41:49
  seat. Then you gotta apologize and Mama said, it's just crazy, you
• 1:41:55
  know. So again we're all excited because we hip hop peg. You know,
• 1:42:00
  it may not be what it was when we were coming up, and
• 1:42:03
  it may be happening in a different way. I think the more context you
• 1:42:08
  have on what's happening around these artists, the more you understand what Drake's saying,
• 1:42:15
  the more you understand what metro Booming's saying what Ross is saying, what
• 1:42:21
  Kendrick is saying, the more you know about the situation, just like battle
• 1:42:27
  rap, because you can't just pop in the battle rap and hear somebody like
• 1:42:30
  you sign them papers though, and you see the crowd go crazy and you
• 1:42:33
  don't know what he's talking about. The line won't resonate. So you have
• 1:42:39
  to know everything, like what's to do, why n W or whatever,
• 1:42:46
  Like, if you don't know who that is and why he's relevant to that
• 1:42:53
  bond that Kendrick put out, you don't get it. You don't get the
• 1:42:59
  line. But just for those who like, hey, I heard that part
• 1:43:01
  and he was talking about friends, Well the dude is accused of killing two
• 1:43:04
  friends. So now go back double back to the bar and you're like,
• 1:43:09
  oh, that's what you need. That's hip hop. I think it's album
• 1:43:13
  or song murder on my mind, that's that's the day of the track to
• 1:43:17
  right right. So yeah, so you would have to you have to know,
• 1:43:25
  like and again, that is a cultural that's that's the cult. That's
• 1:43:30
  the culture. Now, that's the culture now like so yeah, but again
• 1:43:41
  you know it's you want to dip your toe in that water. That just
• 1:43:45
  to see. Okay, then you you you had to do your homework and
• 1:43:49
  figure it out. That's just what it is. If you're not, if
• 1:43:53
  you haven't been listening, you know, but if you you tune into shows
• 1:43:58
  like this, because that's what I do when you were talking earlier, I'm
• 1:44:01
  one of those listeners. I need to tune into the show so I get
• 1:44:05
  caught up. Okay, this is what's happening. This is what's going on
• 1:44:09
  now. So yo, you want to know what's happening in hip hop?
• 1:44:13
  Yo, you gotta subscribe, tune in right here, you know. Yeah?
• 1:44:17
  Definitely. Man, So we said a lot, But what do you
• 1:44:21
  think about this whole battle? Is this round one? Is it over?
• 1:44:26
  Is euphoria? That? Do you feel like all these responses, this entire
• 1:44:30
  battle has been light? Leave your comments in a comments seestion below. Doesn't
• 1:44:34
  matter if you love Drake, love Kendrick, love j Cole. I've purchased
• 1:44:40
  multiple, multiple albums from all of them. I'm an actual fan, even
• 1:44:45
  physical CDs, but I don't have no where to play them. I ain't
• 1:44:47
  gonna lie. But this is not about pick a side. You can,
• 1:44:55
  but it's really about hip hop and analyzing somebody parts of this particular battle and
• 1:45:02
  just again we said a lot that feels in favor of Kendrick. But there's
• 1:45:08
  one thing you can never take away from Drake. He ain't never duck no
• 1:45:12
  smoke. It's big time to say you battle Joe Budden, and you battle
• 1:45:17
  push a T and Meek Mill, who wasn't no slouch. He come from
• 1:45:20
  battle rap and now you battling Kendrick. That's a nice roster of people.
• 1:45:28
  There's a certain person who I referred to as the Goat who's also never ducked
• 1:45:31
  smoke like that. You know what I'm saying Now, I'm not saying he's
• 1:45:34
  in, but nevertheless, what he's doing is hip hop. It's just that
• 1:45:42
  nowadays, you know, people have a lot more information and now we gotta
• 1:45:45
  check the seal on some of Drake's This record is like, hold up,
• 1:45:49
  fam this made in China. Man said, yat, he wrote this?
• 1:45:57
  What I don't even like? God? What do you mean he wrote this?
• 1:46:00
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• 1:46:14
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• 1:46:18
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• 1:46:23
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• 1:46:32
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• 1:46:36
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• 1:46:40
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