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Trekcast 474: Star Trek Goes FULL PUPPET?! Strange New Worlds Gets Weird! · Star Trek Podcast: Trekcast

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  Speaker 1: Treks, the Galaxy's most unpredictable Star Trek podcast, dogs.
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  Speaker 2: Live from studios in Idaho, New York, and Michigan. This
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  Speaker 2: is Trek Cast, the Galaxy's most unpredictable Star Trek podcast.
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  Speaker 2: Today on the show, we're gonna be talking about the
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  Speaker 2: episode Level five transporter accident. Yes we are. Plus we've
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  Speaker 2: got Star Trek News and your listener feedback. I'm Scott
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  Speaker 2: Bounder's and now pulling our strings since twenty seventeen. It's
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  Speaker 2: Dan Lombardo and Daniel Reyes.
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  Speaker 3: Hey, Hey, hey, hey, I'm so excited.
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  Speaker 4: I know, I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, we'll talk about it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll talk about it. I'm gonna see if I
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  Speaker 2: can make this better with coffee.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, no, what's what's in the coffee?
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  Speaker 2: It's just anything to helse well, if you must know,
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  Speaker 2: it's creative. But oh okay, well there you go. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: all right, all right. I must have the strength to
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  Speaker 2: deal with this episode.
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  Speaker 4: I don't have the strength. I don't.
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  Speaker 3: I tried. I tried an alcoholic beverages this week.
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  Speaker 4: You did, Yeah, I thought you do not partake.
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  Speaker 3: I just I don't like the taste. It's not that
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  Speaker 3: I have anything against it.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, I always thought it was like health reasons or something.
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  Speaker 3: No, no, no, it's just I just look out the daste.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: So we tried something to see if I would like it.
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  Speaker 3: It's a new internet trend. Gator wine.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, wait wait wait, wait, time out, time out, because
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  Speaker 4: you know, sometimes your mind moves faster than the conversation. Absolutely,
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  Speaker 4: so two things come to mind. Go for made with
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  Speaker 4: gatorade or made out of alligators. I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: You were correct, made with gatorade.
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  Speaker 2: I just gonna say it's blood wine with So.
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  Speaker 4: So here's the thing. I worked at a prison for
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  Speaker 4: a little while. Okay, if it's liquid and it has
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  Speaker 4: sugar in it, you can turn it into wine.
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  Speaker 3: Oh sure, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's uh. It
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  Speaker 3: is equal parts gatorade and equal parts cheap wine. The
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  Speaker 3: recipe calls for a wine under twelve dollars. Okay, Peternet says,
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  Speaker 3: and apparently og gator wine. The original gator is blue
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  Speaker 3: gatorade and cheap wine. All right, So yeah we tried it.
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  Speaker 2: So you're not you're still not an alcoholic.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know if this is a regional thing, you know, Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: sometimes you're familiar with the product. You don't really, Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: it's not it's not available nation like Devil Dog Dog
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  Speaker 4: Devil Dog Debacle. Okay, so jeez, I hope my kids.
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  Speaker 2: Aren't listen Devil Dog in Debacle.
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  Speaker 4: So in high school, yeah, when we would you know, partake, Uh,
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  Speaker 4: there was a product we called it Mad Dog twenty twenty.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know is that why they? Okay, all right,
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  Speaker 4: because it was m D twenty two.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I didn't find out until a few years ago. It
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  Speaker 4: actually stands for I think Moses David or something. I
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  Speaker 4: think I think it's like a Jewish wine or something. Okay, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: we call it do Yeah, okay. We would mix the
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  Speaker 4: keyw Lime Mad Dog twenty twenty, which was the green one,
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  Speaker 4: with Ecto cooler. Oh wow, remember the the like Ghostbusters
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  Speaker 4: the high See, which was also which was also green. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: so we would mix that with Ecto cooler. So I
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  Speaker 4: mean I see, uh, Gatorade, I you know, not that
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  Speaker 4: far off right right. You know, gatorade's a little more
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  Speaker 4: water down. I think it has uh has some of
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  Speaker 4: the good stuff in there to you know, electrolytes and
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  Speaker 4: yeah and that bullshit. But you know, I remember liking it.
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  Speaker 4: But I was also fourteen, so you know, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: As someone who baseline does not like alcohol, I didn't
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  Speaker 3: love gatar Wind, but I didn't hate it. Yeah, so
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  Speaker 3: for me, like, I guess that's hyer.
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  Speaker 2: Well, there's a chance Dan and I can get you
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  Speaker 2: drunk someday. Let me let me write that down. Or
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  Speaker 2: wine or Ecto wine.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's really really uh sweet fruity drinks. Probably Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Does it have to have an umbrella in it?
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  Speaker 3: Couldn't hurt they uh pa says mix Echo cooler with
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  Speaker 3: ever clear.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, there you go. All right. So I mean this
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  Speaker 4: kind of the kind of tracks on my theory, my
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  Speaker 4: ongoing theory that Ghostbusters makes everything better, doesn't.
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  Speaker 2: Matter what it is. You're right, you're right, Add a
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  Speaker 2: little Ecto cooler to anything and boom.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, whereas puppets, puppets do not always make things better, No,
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  Speaker 4: not always, not always, not always.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah right, Oh my god, what what was that?
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  Speaker 3: What what happened?
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  Speaker 4: Huh what happened?
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, look at that. Oh yeah, I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: Left my front door open. These guys snuck in my neighbor.
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  Speaker 2: Neighbor for those of you staring into their radios right
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  Speaker 2: now listening to this. Uh, he's got a couple of muppets,
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  Speaker 2: Bert and Ernie. Oh they're making out. No, oh god, Okay,
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  Speaker 2: we all knew it was true.
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  Speaker 3: We all knew it was gonna happen.
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  Speaker 2: You're not making Yeah, this is old news.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, these these guys. I bought a collection a
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  Speaker 4: few weeks ago, and these guys were in it, and
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  Speaker 4: about uh ten minutes ago, I was like, Oh, those
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  Speaker 4: guys are still in the back porch. That's relevant, that's
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  Speaker 4: relevant to what I'm doing.
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  Speaker 2: Let me those you know, i'd be careful because uh,
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  Speaker 2: Public Broadcasting is hurting for money right now, and I'm
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  Speaker 2: sure their lawyers are just like salivating copyrighting Frenchman. This.
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  Speaker 4: This is a retail product that they sold that I
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  Speaker 4: happened to possess.
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  Speaker 3: Oh bo, I was gonna say, I'm surprised that Chad
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  Speaker 3: hasn't a shoot up those puppets.
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  Speaker 4: Uh yeah, just about everything else he has put his
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  Speaker 4: mouth on. But so he is not. They are not
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  Speaker 4: in an accessible area.
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  Speaker 2: He's put his mouth on everything, everything, just everything, every cage.
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  Speaker 3: Oh wow, we're learning so much this morning.
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  Speaker 4: All right, let's get this train wreck movie let's get
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  Speaker 4: to the news.
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  Speaker 2: Star Trek News.
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  Speaker 3: So our first news story comes to us from Deadline
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  Speaker 3: dot com and this thing has been making waves. Uh,
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  Speaker 3: so we should probably also let you know that it
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  Speaker 3: has to deal with the Mount.
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  Speaker 4: So what's up with them Mount? What's up with them Mount?
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  Speaker 3: So one of the top executives at Paramount recently did
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  Speaker 3: an interview with Deadline and she talked about basically the
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  Speaker 3: state of Paramount, everything that's going on. But the big
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  Speaker 3: thing that's relevant for us Star Trek fans is she
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  Speaker 3: did also talk about Star Trek and the big thing
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  Speaker 3: that everyone is going nuts about is she did say
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  Speaker 3: that right now, quote, we're talking to a lot of writers.
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  Speaker 3: So people have taken this to mean that Kurtzman is
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  Speaker 3: out and that they're coming up with new pitches and
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  Speaker 3: new ideas from Star Trek. Yeah, Scott is there praying yes.
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  Speaker 3: So while this is not official confirmation that he's out,
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  Speaker 3: the fact that they're talking to other people and hearing
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  Speaker 3: pitches and learning new directions is a strong indicator that
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  Speaker 3: he is on the way out.
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  Speaker 4: So when does when does Vision Quest come out?
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  Speaker 2: Is that soon?
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  Speaker 3: I want to say it's in October.
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  Speaker 2: October because the best.
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  Speaker 4: The best thing that could happen is for a Vision
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  Speaker 4: Quest to be phenomenal. Yes, and for Terry mettallis to
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  Speaker 4: be one of these people that they're talking to, so
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  Speaker 4: he so he can say, hey, look look what I
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  Speaker 4: did over there. Look look what I did for you
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  Speaker 4: four years ago, and was shown the door for it,
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  Speaker 4: and look what I did over here. So fingers crossed.
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  Speaker 4: The Vision Quest is as amazing as uh.
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  Speaker 3: It looks good, it does.
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  Speaker 4: It does look good.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it does look good.
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  Speaker 4: It looks really good. But you know a lot of
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  Speaker 4: things look good. Yeah, and then you watch it and
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  Speaker 4: it's not.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, although have you ever seen anything that had James
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  Speaker 2: Spader in it that was bad?
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  Speaker 4: He was in the later seasons of the Office where
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  Speaker 4: Steve Carrell had left had left the show, so there's
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  Speaker 4: there's still enjoyable.
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  Speaker 2: But but his parts were good.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, No, it was a it was funny. I watched that.
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  Speaker 4: His his characters name is Robert California, and I watched
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  Speaker 4: that and I'm like, all right, he's just playing Ultron
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  Speaker 4: in Pennsylvania.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so that's a big thing they're developing.
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  Speaker 2: The houses are always colonial and the penises are always circumcised.
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  Speaker 2: Robert California talking about doodling, and he's like, why is
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  Speaker 2: it with people doodle The houses are always colonial, the
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  Speaker 2: pediss are always Wow, I forgot about that.
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  Speaker 3: Gym Oh okay, yes, yes, So that's that's what's going
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  Speaker 3: on with Paramount. They're looking at new pitches, they're looking
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  Speaker 3: at new ideas for Stargic. So that, yeah, that doesn't
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  Speaker 3: bode well for a Kurtzman. So well what that does?
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  Speaker 3: Not to say though, he couldn't come up with the
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  Speaker 3: pitch and maybe they go with it.
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  Speaker 4: Stop just stop.
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  Speaker 3: I'm just saying, all right, our next news story comes
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  Speaker 3: to us from trekmovie dot com. And for those maybe
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  Speaker 3: this is.
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  Speaker 4: Maybe this is a safe word and we just don't
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  Speaker 4: know it yet, Like this is safe word that we
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  Speaker 4: could just yell and cursman will stop. That's your homework,
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  Speaker 4: everyone figure out the god for our Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Sorry, okay, So, uh for those of you go into
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  Speaker 3: uh New York City Comic Con uh this October, Starfleet
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  Speaker 3: Academy will be having a panel there and a sixty
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  Speaker 3: anniversary panel for Star Trek as well, So we'll have
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  Speaker 3: a lot of the actors from the show there. So
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  Speaker 3: I don't know too much more about it just yet,
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  Speaker 3: still pretty early for the preview. But yeah, so in
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  Speaker 3: New York City Comic Con, Dan, are you gonna go?
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  Speaker 3: That's kind of in your area?
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  Speaker 4: No, okay, no, no, it's uh I've been before.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's huge, right, it is.
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  Speaker 2: It is huge.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it is huge. It's you know, I I'm proximate
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  Speaker 4: to New York City. I'm not close. Yeah, you know,
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  Speaker 4: on a best case scenario, it takes me two hours
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  Speaker 4: to get there.
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  Speaker 3: Oh wow, yeah the drive?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, all right.
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  Speaker 2: For those of you who go on another comic con
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  Speaker 2: or that other Star Trek convention and the it starts
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  Speaker 2: with a t.
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  Speaker 4: Tekonda Roga, we're gonna be talking about them in a
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  Speaker 4: few minutes. I'm actually I'm actually further from Taekwonda Roga. However,
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  Speaker 4: it's a much easier trip. It's a less expensive trip
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  Speaker 4: if you're gonna stay the night, and with all due
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  Speaker 4: respect to Deval, the people in the area are a
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  Speaker 4: lot nicer.
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  Speaker 2: There you go. Because I keep thinking about a New
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  Speaker 2: York trip sometime, a week long New York trip, and
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  Speaker 2: I'm thinking about dividing it up between doing like a
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  Speaker 2: Star Trek thing and to kind of that that place
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  Speaker 2: and New York City proper.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean you got if you're gonna come to
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  Speaker 4: New York, if you don't live in New York and
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  Speaker 4: you're gonna come to New York for the first time,
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  Speaker 4: by all means you have to visit New York City.
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  Speaker 4: It's like no other place on the planet on the planet,
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  Speaker 4: I get it. But the rest of the state is
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  Speaker 4: completely different, different. Everything north of Westchester County probably has
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  Speaker 4: more in common with Alabama than it does with New
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  Speaker 4: York City. Just completely different. You know, the landscape, the people,
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  Speaker 4: the culture, it's just completely different. Well, and and and
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  Speaker 4: I would be and I would be thrilled to spend
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  Speaker 4: time with you and Desiree in both of those places.
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  Speaker 4: If that trip, if that trip's happening, let me know.
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  Speaker 2: I will be a part of the planning process.
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, if we go next year, the Paddington musical kicks.
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  Speaker 4: Off, shut off? Just stop. What's what's yours? What's your
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  Speaker 4: safe word? Stop?
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  Speaker 3: Tacos? I don't know tacos? All right?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: Our next door news story comes first from Yahoo Entertainment. Uh,
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  Speaker 3: this one I was not familiar with. Maybe you guys were,
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  Speaker 3: but apparently we almost got evil Captain Kirk versus Captain
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  Speaker 3: Archer on Enterprise. There had been a pitch to bring
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  Speaker 3: back William Shatner for the fourth season of Enterprise to
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  Speaker 3: be Evil Captain Kirk.
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  Speaker 4: There was also there was also talk of Anyway coming
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  Speaker 4: back to be Spock from that.
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  Speaker 3: Oh interesting.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I remember when the show was in first run.
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  Speaker 4: I can remember there were rumors, yeah, all the time
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  Speaker 4: about getting them back on there, and then who's still
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  Speaker 4: available and how could they make it work? And then
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  Speaker 4: at one point Kirk was going to be he was
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  Speaker 4: gonna play Chef who nobody saw until the last until
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  Speaker 4: it was Riker.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so yeah, okay, that would have been cool. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: it would have been interesting for sure. All right, and
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  Speaker 3: then our last news story comes to us from Sun
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  Speaker 3: Community News for those of you who watched that one,
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  Speaker 3: but I guess in I want to say it's in
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  Speaker 3: October as well, No, September, September eighteenth, at Tykwonder Ruga.
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  Speaker 3: They're gonna have a ribbon cutting summit ceremony. They're gonna
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  Speaker 3: have the Galileo shuttle craft there.
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  Speaker 2: Huh.
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  Speaker 3: So I don't know if that means like the little
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  Speaker 3: prop and they're gonna like here it is, guys, or
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  Speaker 3: did they build the Galileo set and you can walk
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  Speaker 3: into I think that's what it is.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's what it is too. Yeah. I
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  Speaker 2: think they spent a long time and a lot of
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  Speaker 2: money restoring it.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, well it'll be there, so cool Friday, September eighteenth,
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  Speaker 3: eighteenth at five point thirty. So that's big ribbon cut centrunning.
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  Speaker 2: So cool.
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  Speaker 3: There you go. All right, that's all the news stories.
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  Speaker 4: So are you sure see you guys next week?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, alright yeah feedback everyone, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, Well let's let's get to the main topic,
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  Speaker 3: the puppet episode.
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  Speaker 5: Fun will now comment.
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  Speaker 2: Once again seven of nine. No, no, it will not.
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  Speaker 2: Fun will not commence now yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Oh while both says they recovered the trash Galileo and
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  Speaker 3: restored it.
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  Speaker 2: So there you go.
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  Speaker 4: Good.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: So this is season four, episode five, Level five Transporter accident.
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  Speaker 3: To give everyone an idea. On IMDb right now, it
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  Speaker 3: has a four point eight out of ten stars rating
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  Speaker 3: just based off of the feedback we've gotten on social media.
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  Speaker 3: Very much mixed reactions, I would say, leaning towards positive really, yes,
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  Speaker 3: like a sixty forty split positive. Yeah, it's not overwhelming,
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  Speaker 3: but more so so that's where we're at with it.
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  Speaker 3: Most people are like saying, it's just fun, enjoy it,
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  Speaker 3: So that's been the overall reaction. A lot of people
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  Speaker 3: also found it really funny, like a really hilarious episode.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know, I don't. I didn't like laugh.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah I didn't either, I didn't laugh.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't. Yeah, can I say, can I play Daniel
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  Speaker 2: for just like? Give me thirty seconds I played Daniel.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: If I rewrote this episode, okay, yes, and part you'll
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: have to excuse me. This is not my thing. But
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  Speaker 2: if I rewrote this episode, I would not have made
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: it a spock Fever dream. I would have at the
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: very end, I would have revealed that it was John
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: Delancey's Q just screwing around with the enterprise just for fun.
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  Speaker 2: That would have made me happy. That would have made
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  Speaker 2: me go oh, And that would have made as much
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  Speaker 2: astead of made some sense to me. And I think
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  Speaker 2: that would have been a great callback. I think John
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  Speaker 2: Delancy would have done it. They could have kept him
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  Speaker 2: his own age, they could have de aged him, it
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  Speaker 2: could have been tree Lane, whatever. I think that would
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  Speaker 2: have made much more sense. It would have made this
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  Speaker 2: episode Cannon and and I think we would have loved
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: the ride and we would have accepted it.
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  Speaker 4: So where I can't help but wonder if the hey,
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  Speaker 4: it was all a dream was an afterthought? Yeah, it
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  Speaker 4: goes done one yes, and I'll i'll and I'll tell
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  Speaker 4: you why. And you know when I'm dreaming and you
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  Speaker 4: tell me if this is if, if this is how
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  Speaker 4: you experience it. When I'm dreaming, it's in the first person.
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  Speaker 4: I'm dreaming about things that I'm observing, which is why
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  Speaker 4: when you wake up, excuse me, you're not quite sure
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  Speaker 4: for a moment, did that happen? Is this real? Or
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  Speaker 4: was that a dream? Because it's happening a first person?
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  Speaker 4: Is that how you two dream?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 4: Of course, okay, yeah, which means everything that you see,
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  Speaker 4: if this is supposed to be a dream, everything you
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  Speaker 4: see should be from Spock's perspective. We as the viewers
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  Speaker 4: should not be seeing what's happening on the other side
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  Speaker 4: of the ship when Spock is in engineering. We should
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  Speaker 4: not be seeing these puppets swimming through outer space because
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  Speaker 4: Spock was not swimming through outer space, right, So it
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  Speaker 4: doesn't make narrative sense to see those things because from
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  Speaker 4: his point of view, they don't occur or you don't
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  Speaker 4: see them. So I feel like this was a legitimate
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  Speaker 4: transporter accident and somewhere along the way possibly like this
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: seeing right here, Spock's not here. Yeah, this shouldn't be
• 21:03
  Speaker 4: this shouldn't be quote happening. Yeah, yeah, I don't. I
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: don't know if it was the last minute that they
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: tacked it on halfway through production. Uh it maybe somebody,
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: Uh yeah, I don't know, but it just it doesn't
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: make narrative sense.
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: It felt like somebody very late in the string writing
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: process that you know, we should make this a dream
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: and just it'll cut the edge off of it and
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: people won't get so mad about it. Yeah, that that's
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: what it felt like, because the last few scenes that
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: showed that it's a dream, they're very quick scenes there,
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: they don't last very long. They don't really talk about
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: the psychology of it. It's it's pretty quick.
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, yeah, m hmm.
• 21:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah I.
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: Didn't.
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: I didn't hate this episode, but I didn't love it.
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: I feel like I've been so beaten down by this
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: season already. Yeah, you know, right, I think I think
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: over it was worse.
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: I don't think it would be this poorly received if
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: it was peppered in with some decent episodes. But we've
• 22:19
  Speaker 4: we've had like we've had like four stinkers in a row. Yes, Yeah, so.
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: I don't know, Yeah, because we loved we didn't we
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: weren't that critical of the musical episode, Yeah, because it
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: was it was bunched in with a bunch of really
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: good episodes, you know, same with the even some people
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: had problem with the uh the crossover episode. I was
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: not among them, but yeah, it was first and second season,
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: we're really really good, and that just started to drop off.
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: So like when I was first watching it and they
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: did the big scene about how the puppets cannot hurt anybody,
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: they're just little felt pieces, and that they tried to
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: like launch trying to punch one of the orions and
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: nothing happen. And then later they're taking out the orions
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: on kung fu, kicking them. Like I was so ready
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: to be so mad, and then they made it a dream.
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: I was like, oh, okay, whatever.
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: Like I was just like, yeah, in the interest of
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: some positive if, I I've got a couple of notes
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: about some positive things here.
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: Number one, I loved Carol Kane's puppet. When when they
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: showed her puppet for the first time, I thought it
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: was fantastic with the hair and the that was a
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: really I thought hers was my favorite favorite puppet. Second,
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: the actress that played Captain Cherral, the captain of the
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: Orion ship. That's Rachel Harris. She's fantastic. I at first
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: I was trying to figure out who that was, and
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: then I'm like, oh, it's it's Rachel Harris. She she
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: was the psychiatrist in uh, Lucifer if anybody ever watched that, Okay,
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: she was one of the main characters in Lucifer. She
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: was fantastic in this episode, and I thought she played
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: a great Orion because Orion women are a little bit,
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: you know, kind of full themselves, and they think the
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: ship don't stink because you know, it doesn't. It smells
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: like pheromones that make guys do whatever they do. You do,
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: you know these things because I'm a star trek.
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: Nerd okay, all right, And and they just ignore the
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: safe word.
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah means nothing, that's right, no safe word about the Ryots.
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: I thought it was so Scotty tries to to transport
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: a puppet and that's what causes the accident.
• 24:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Like I really thought you could have done just
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: one thing where he's like, I put this device on
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: it that can help extend the transporter reach, and that's
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: what causes the puppets because he's transporting that device. And
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: so that device, because it extends the reach, it extends
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: the puppet reach, and that's what made everybody it.
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: So I feel like this this was a callback to
• 25:03
  Speaker 4: uh star trek oh nine where Scotty had developed the
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: transwarp right, yeah, which something like that which didn't didn't
• 25:20
  Speaker 4: make sense back then. It doesn't really make sense now,
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: but yeah, you know, I can't help but feel like
• 25:26
  Speaker 4: this is a callback to that.
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah it could be, but.
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: Actually that one didn't make sense back in nine because
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: they were talking about distance and then they used it
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: to not about distance but about transporting something aboard something
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: that was traveling at warp. None of it made any Nope.
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: And then to Paul being there or Spring being there,
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah that.
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: Would have been that'd have been a great episode. Yeah. Yeah.
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: Why why was Spock dreaming about a new chair for
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: Captain Pike then?
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: I don't know? And there was a Crint do you
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: guys remember the cringe moment with Yes when the pupp
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: when when the Pring and Spock started kissing was in
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: puppet form. That was I don't often look down and
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: away from my television when I'm watching, especially Star Trek,
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: but that was hard to watch and I can't even
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: imagine how hard it was to film.
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I saw them behind the scenes with Ethan Pack.
• 26:40
  Speaker 4: What if they were both puppets?
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah, say that, say that for the premium content.
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, save that for the Patreon members.
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: That's right, that's right.
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: Scott's like, just save it period.
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: What about when it became die hard with puppets?
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah? You know what. You know, what's funny is there's
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: probably some Trek cast fans out there that are going,
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: oh crap on Patreon sweet okay, Patreon dot com forwards
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: last Trek Cast. I'm signing up that.
• 27:20
  Speaker 4: You know. Okay.
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: One thing I'll say, was it I don't know for
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: you guys, was it harder to understand some of these
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: actors when it was just their voice and not them
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: there Like I had a harder time understanding Carol Caine
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: and Embanka Hmmm, I don't know.
• 27:37
  Speaker 4: You're definitely you could definitely tell their audio was done
• 27:42
  Speaker 4: in a dubbed in a room right in front of
• 27:46
  Speaker 4: a microphone, like they sounded so much closer.
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because I was about to say, I found it
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: easier to understand both of them.
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: Oh, I had a harder time.
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: Huh interesting, it's interesting.
• 27:59
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: Oh, while Bill say yeah, because you couldn't read the lips, Yeah,
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: maybe that could be Yeah.
• 28:13
  Speaker 4: I mean, do they have lips? I don't think puppets
• 28:16
  Speaker 4: have lips.
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: No, I couldn't understand them.
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, do a close visual inspection for us, please.
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: Ye, there you go.
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: He's got a tongue.
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: He's got a tongue.
• 28:32
  Speaker 4: That's about it.
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: So yeah, So what do you guys rate this episode
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: out of ten?
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: Ten?
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's five.
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: It's yeah. I can't find an argument going higher or
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: lower than a five, so I'll give it a five.
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: I mean, it really felt like we want to put
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: puppets in an episode, and then they tried to figure
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: out a storyline behind it, as opposed to having a
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: good storyline in order to bring in the puppets.
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: Do you remember when starts I used to do that.
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: They used to come up with a good story and
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: then kind of roll with it.
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah. While Bill says he use it a three, Jacob
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: says he used it a four point five. So there
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: you go.
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: It could have I mean, if they wanted to do
• 29:25
  Speaker 4: the puppets, I get it. There's better ways to do it,
• 29:30
  Speaker 4: the Q thing, the Trelaine thing, and you could have
• 29:35
  Speaker 4: gone wild with it. You know when the Oryons show up,
• 29:39
  Speaker 4: first they're they're humans, and then you know ques like,
• 29:44
  Speaker 4: oh I didn't account for that, and now they're puppets
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: as well. You got Oryan puppets and then there's Klingon
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: puppets and Romulin pot. I mean, you could have gone nuts.
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that would have been fun. Yeah, let's let's have
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: all the puppets, because I I promise you you were
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: going to be seeing these puppets at conventions. There will
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: be people with booths.
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, oh yeah, oh they're already I've already seen
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: three D printed action figures.
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: Yeh of the puppets.
• 30:13
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah.
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: So I still don't think this is the worst episode
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: this season.
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: I know because I could watch this whole thing and
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: not be distracted. I was. I watched it and I
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: was I don't know if I was entertained. Maybe I
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: was entertained by it. Again, We're talking about a season
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: that's ten episodes long versus twenty six episodes long. Yeah,
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: you know you could, you could forgive a move along
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: home on Deep Space nine because there was twenty four
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: other episodes that you forget about it. But we're hanging
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: on every single episode because there's only ten of them. Yeah,
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: and the season's half over.
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: Casz bit d for done.
• 31:03
  Speaker 4: I I host a Star Trek podcast, and I'm more
• 31:08
  Speaker 4: more excited about watching the next episode of Lanterns than
• 31:13
  Speaker 4: I am about the rest of this season.
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: Lanterns was great.
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: Lanterns was fantastic.
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: An interrogation scene, yeah.
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: Oh that was perfect. I loved it. I loved it.
• 31:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah, are we going to talk about it? Let's talk
• 31:30
  Speaker 4: about talk about it later. Let's all right, spoil spoiler alert,
• 31:36
  Speaker 4: we're going to talk about Lanterns. The first episode U
• 31:39
  Speaker 4: premiered last Sunday. The second comes out tonight. So if
• 31:44
  Speaker 4: you don't want any spoilers, you should probably.
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: Fast forward to the section or just let's listen to
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: this next week.
• 31:54
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, yeah, that'll work too. Yeah, So what you
• 31:57
  Speaker 4: guys think?
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: I loved it?
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I loved it too.
• 32:02
  Speaker 4: I thought it was good. I thought it was grounded.
• 32:04
  Speaker 4: There were a few too many F bombs for me. Again,
• 32:08
  Speaker 4: it's like, why do we have to do this? You know,
• 32:11
  Speaker 4: thankfully my son is Is is older now, so I
• 32:14
  Speaker 4: you know, I let him watch it. He watched it
• 32:16
  Speaker 4: the second time I watched it. He watched it with me.
• 32:21
  Speaker 4: But I really like this guy that they got for
• 32:25
  Speaker 4: al Georgan. I like the guy they got for John
• 32:27
  Speaker 4: Stewart too. I mean, these two completely different characters. I
• 32:31
  Speaker 4: love their I love their interactions with each other. I
• 32:34
  Speaker 4: love how, you know, the showing the show, the showing
• 32:38
  Speaker 4: these characters from two different It sounds like this show
• 32:42
  Speaker 4: is going to take place in two different time frames
• 32:47
  Speaker 4: for the duration of the season. But I mean, we
• 32:49
  Speaker 4: saw we saw several different time periods in this in
• 32:53
  Speaker 4: this first episode, so seeing two thousand and six hal
• 32:58
  Speaker 4: Jordan or two thousand and three whenever it was when
• 33:01
  Speaker 4: when he did the interview with with dateline yea and
• 33:05
  Speaker 4: and he was young, and he was eager, and he
• 33:07
  Speaker 4: was wearing the uniform. And when he tells when he
• 33:11
  Speaker 4: tells the guy at the taco stand why he doesn't
• 33:13
  Speaker 4: wear the uniform and compares it to wearing a tie
• 33:17
  Speaker 4: when you're when you're at work to impress your boss,
• 33:20
  Speaker 4: and after a while you you don't care so much
• 33:22
  Speaker 4: and you realize it's just a pain in the ass.
• 33:24
  Speaker 4: And you know, I thought that was I thought that
• 33:26
  Speaker 4: was a good explanation. I would like to see him
• 33:28
  Speaker 4: in the suit again. I would like to see you. Well, yeah, no,
• 33:33
  Speaker 4: I'm sure we will. He brings it out for special occasions,
• 33:35
  Speaker 4: he says, So, I'm sure we'll see a special occasion
• 33:38
  Speaker 4: at some point.
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: We are going to say, see Nathan Fillion. Yeah, sometimes,
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: which is good.
• 33:46
  Speaker 4: We did not see a lot of special effects for
• 33:52
  Speaker 4: what the ring does, and I think they're trying to
• 33:58
  Speaker 4: make this a more grounded show. Oh so, I think
• 34:00
  Speaker 4: there's going to be not so much of that. And
• 34:04
  Speaker 4: as long as the writing is good and we see
• 34:07
  Speaker 4: some of it, I think I'm okay with that. But
• 34:11
  Speaker 4: I would like to talk for a moment about the flying. Yeah,
• 34:15
  Speaker 4: what did you guys think of the flying? And we
• 34:18
  Speaker 4: didn't see a lot of it, But what did you
• 34:19
  Speaker 4: guys think of what you saw? And then I will
• 34:21
  Speaker 4: tell you what I thought.
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: It was very minimalist. There was not, like you said,
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: there's not a lot of special effects. That was That
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: was hal Jordan flying, not to impress anybody, but he
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: was just flying as a mode to get from point
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: A to point B. And he doesn't need a bunch
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: of constructs, which is what he makes with the ring
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: to do that. So I like the minimalist kind of thing.
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: And I think they're slowly building up to more special
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: effects later out of the season.
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: But I know, I like, typically in the comics, whenever
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: they fly, there's a little like green aura around them. Yeah,
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: and they didn't have it this time, and that threw
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: me off. I was like, wait, where's the green?
• 35:00
  Speaker 4: Well, that's that's also that scene took place outside during
• 35:08
  Speaker 4: during the day. I think if that scene had taken
• 35:11
  Speaker 4: place at night, you probably would have seen something. I
• 35:14
  Speaker 4: think it's probably washed out by the by the background.
• 35:19
  Speaker 4: What I noticed about the flying is and I like
• 35:24
  Speaker 4: this is it's different than when Thor flies. It's different
• 35:31
  Speaker 4: than when Superman flies. When Superman flies, he kind of
• 35:34
  Speaker 4: crouches for a second and jumps straight up in the
• 35:37
  Speaker 4: air and there's a shockwave that kind of ripples from
• 35:41
  Speaker 4: around him a little bit, and there's a whoosh air
• 35:44
  Speaker 4: and you know, the same sort of thing when when
• 35:46
  Speaker 4: when Thor flies this everything it just went in a
• 35:55
  Speaker 4: straight line. He just he just looked in a direction
• 35:58
  Speaker 4: and his body just started moving in that direction. He
• 36:01
  Speaker 4: just willed his body to move at this this vector.
• 36:06
  Speaker 4: And I almost describe it as he wasn't he wasn't
• 36:10
  Speaker 4: taking off into flight. He was suddenly falling up. Yeah,
• 36:15
  Speaker 4: And I and I liked, I like that, how how
• 36:18
  Speaker 4: smooth it was. Yeah, because I feel like if you
• 36:21
  Speaker 4: if this device was real, if this device existed, that's
• 36:25
  Speaker 4: what it would do. It would not make him fly,
• 36:27
  Speaker 4: it would alter the It would alter gravity around him.
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: So he looked that first flight when he takes off
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: from that taco stand or whatever, it was the first
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: I think it was the first time we saw him
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: fly in the current timeline. It felt as if it
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: was somebody who's been doing this for twenty years. He
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: wasn't trying to impress anybody, He wasn't trying to do
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: any theatrics, and it felt natural. It felt like if
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: you had had this ability for twenty years, you exactly
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: just what Dan said. He didn't do the crowd, she
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: didn't do the you know, the theatrics for it. He
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: just started moving. He's like, yeah, you know, boom that way.
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: I think it was funny. He was using the ring
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: to counterfeit money.
• 37:11
  Speaker 4: Yeah, No, he didn't counterfeit money. He manifested money through
• 37:16
  Speaker 4: the will, money through willpower, whatever whatever other edition he
• 37:21
  Speaker 4: had for it.
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: Because Helse he's like the type of guy that never
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: would have done that twenty years ago. But now he's like,
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: who cares. It's a jukebox.
• 37:29
  Speaker 4: H Well, that's that's That's the other thing. It's like,
• 37:31
  Speaker 4: what is what is? It's not like he counterfeited money
• 37:35
  Speaker 4: and purchased property and now he deprived that person of
• 37:39
  Speaker 4: their property and the money disappeared. This is a song
• 37:43
  Speaker 4: on a jukebox, right, It's not something tangible.
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: So I think I'm open for a good cause. He
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: was trying to get arrested.
• 37:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm okay with it. He didn't manifest money. He
• 37:54
  Speaker 4: didn't manifest money to pay for the tacos.
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: He had John do that, right, man, John's money.
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: He felt like that. He felt like an old trainer.
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: He felt like a trainer of a guy. You know,
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: a new guy comes on the job and yeah, Hell
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: doesn't want to train anybody. He's like that, you know,
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: and I've seen truck driver trainers like this in my career,
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: like this guy we don't really want.
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's like at the end of this all right,
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: all right, how are Johnson show me pay the tacos,
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: show me go to the airport? You know?
• 38:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so we know this is part of the larger
• 38:46
  Speaker 4: d c u uh huh Macon Is that his name?
• 38:51
  Speaker 4: The guy was who works at the rain Yeah, but
• 38:55
  Speaker 4: he his employer has a non disclosure agreement with him,
• 38:58
  Speaker 4: and he can't disclose who is employer is right, and
• 39:00
  Speaker 4: his employer is obviously filthy rich, and his employer is
• 39:06
  Speaker 4: concerned about protecting Earth from extraterrestrial threats and does not
• 39:10
  Speaker 4: trust aliens. Does this sound like anyone to you, Luthor?
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: Luthor?
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, they They have said that the big bad
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: in Lanterns is connected to the overall story they're telling.
• 39:27
  Speaker 4: Okay, so I don't know.
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: So you think somebody that's working for Luther then.
• 39:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah, this guy Naken, I think he. I think he
• 39:38
  Speaker 4: might be working for Luther.
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, okay, could be, could be, but.
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: Well, all right, so we like lanterns.
• 39:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I like lanterns very much. One thing I did
• 39:55
  Speaker 4: not like and again we will I'll have to see
• 40:00
  Speaker 4: more of this character to see like what his motivation is.
• 40:05
  Speaker 4: But John Stewart's dad shooting an apple, yeah, off of
• 40:10
  Speaker 4: his head as a father, as a firearms instructor, that
• 40:17
  Speaker 4: is unfathomable. Yeah, right, And the fact that twenty years
• 40:27
  Speaker 4: later John's like okay with it. Yeah, I don't get that.
• 40:33
  Speaker 4: I don't understand that.
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: The theory I've seen about people with that scene is
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: that John Stewart was picked very early on as a
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: kid from the by the Guardians that we're going to
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: make you a green lantern. And so from that point on,
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: his dad has been helping with the training and that's
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: why he was shooting the apple, so that he has
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: no fear whatsoever.
• 40:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I get that.
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's still weird.
• 41:01
  Speaker 4: It's weird, it's criminal, it's unforgivable.
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought they were trying to make the dance.
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: I also like to point out yeah, yeah, yeah, I'd
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: also like to point out that you're a firearms instructor.
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: Pistols are not that accurate. Nope, they're not nearly as
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: accurate rifles.
• 41:24
  Speaker 4: Nope. I betray qualify. I shoot one hundred percent when
• 41:29
  Speaker 4: I qualify with with my pistol. I would never attempt that,
• 41:36
  Speaker 4: never ever, ever.
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: No, mm hmm.
• 41:41
  Speaker 4: Yep.
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: No, maybe with somebody else's kid. I don't know.
• 41:47
  Speaker 4: Maybe, I don't know, Like when I watch America's Got
• 41:52
  Speaker 4: Talent and there and they got the crossbow and they're
• 41:55
  Speaker 4: shooting apples off people's heads or throwing knives at the
• 41:58
  Speaker 4: guy who's on the spinning wheel, like it makes me uncomfortable. Yeah,
• 42:03
  Speaker 4: I sit there thinking, you know, how fucking irresponsible are you?
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't know.
• 42:16
  Speaker 4: S I want to try it, yeah, which is why
• 42:18
  Speaker 4: Alec Baldwin is irredeemable in my eyes. Sorry, and I
• 42:25
  Speaker 4: love thirty Rock.
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: All right, Well, should we get to listener feedback?
• 42:32
  Speaker 4: Sure?
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: All right, let's get the listener feedback.
• 42:38
  Speaker 6: Listener feedback?
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: All right?
• 42:42
  Speaker 4: Oh, like he left us, he's getting his puppets.
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: He just left us. Yeah, okay, Well, if you want
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: to join us for listener feedback, X up in the
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: chat and we'll be happy to have you. Oh he's
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: returning now, Okay.
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: Maybe I just wanted No, I was wondering if I
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: could do a little show and tell real quick. Okay,
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: So last week it was my birthday and my wife
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: got me something that surprised me. It's it's the first
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: time I've been really surprised for a birthday present. But uh,
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: it we've talked about it on the show. Uh, it's
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: not something that I would ever ever in a million
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: years by myself.
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: Uh.
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: But I got the Lego Enterprise D.
• 43:33
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: My wife gave me the D.
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: So it's uh, it's got all the it's got all
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: the figures. Yeah, my mom watches this, guys, come on,
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: it's uh yeah, I was. It's it's the first time
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: that I've ever opened a present and was literally like, yeah,
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: I was. I didn't know what to say. I I'm like, well, yeah,
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: so yeah, I figured it might be a good content
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: for the show when we start. When we start building it,
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: we're gonna build it as family. I'll share pictures on
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: the on the Facebook group and everything like that.
• 44:27
  Speaker 3: So I can't wait for you to show off your
• 44:29
  Speaker 3: D on the internet. That's great.
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: I can't wait to show off my D on the
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: internet too. That's gonna be that's gonna be great. Yeah.
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: Thank you, Thank you, Desiree for the amazing birthday present.
• 44:42
  Speaker 4: Happy birthday, all right, thank you.
• 44:45
  Speaker 3: We got hipster Spock and Chatz was waiting. But first
• 44:47
  Speaker 3: we got some voicemails, so let's uh, let's get to
• 44:50
  Speaker 3: the voice have an email too, so oh do okay, great,
• 44:53
  Speaker 3: we'll get to all that. All right, here's the first
• 44:55
  Speaker 3: or smile.
• 44:56
  Speaker 7: So episode five of Challenging the World.
• 45:01
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 45:02
  Speaker 7: I liked everything about it except for the puppets. Yeah,
• 45:08
  Speaker 7: this genre of the week thing is kind of overdone.
• 45:15
  Speaker 7: Props for creativity, but yeah, this does not fit. On
• 45:22
  Speaker 7: the bright side, the back ends probably better given that
• 45:25
  Speaker 7: we have a trilling episode coming up so EQ and
• 45:30
  Speaker 7: Tomorrow's Yesterday's Enterprise sequel. So time back time, going back
• 45:36
  Speaker 7: and forth from the future.
• 45:37
  Speaker 4: To the past.
• 45:38
  Speaker 7: So great to look forward to that. Other than that,
• 45:43
  Speaker 7: they definitely wasted props on our money on props.
• 45:52
  Speaker 4: For the puppets.
• 45:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, there we go, So not a ban I like
• 46:05
  Speaker 3: you put it though. He liked it for everything except
• 46:07
  Speaker 3: with the puppets.
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: Except for the puppets.
• 46:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, and we got one more voicemails.
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: Here we go, track fans, it's Tim here from.
• 46:18
  Speaker 8: South Coast of England. Boy, the very two episodes of
• 46:23
  Speaker 8: what they like to call Star Trek is nothing further
• 46:28
  Speaker 8: from the Black and White episode. Well, the least said
• 46:31
  Speaker 8: about that, the better.
• 46:34
  Speaker 4: I like m Benga.
• 46:36
  Speaker 8: He's probably my standout character of the whole series really,
• 46:40
  Speaker 8: And as for this puppet episode that we recently had,
• 46:45
  Speaker 8: it would have been great for ten minutes.
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: It would have been funny.
• 46:49
  Speaker 8: But what really annoyed me was when the ship gets
• 46:53
  Speaker 8: hit by photons, they just run around with their hands
• 46:57
  Speaker 8: up in the air. That was just like trying to
• 46:59
  Speaker 8: do a Muppet thing where the star freet officers wouldn't
• 47:02
  Speaker 8: do that. So I hated it. And obviously the oxygen
• 47:10
  Speaker 8: thing when they said, oh yeah, puppets don't need oxygen
• 47:14
  Speaker 8: when you straight away that was going to be the
• 47:18
  Speaker 8: the answer, wasn't it. It was just like the most
• 47:22
  Speaker 8: telegraphed thing of the whole episode.
• 47:26
  Speaker 4: I hated it.
• 47:27
  Speaker 8: Basically, I'm having to have talked for any quietly because
• 47:29
  Speaker 8: I've got my family upstairs and I don't want them
• 47:32
  Speaker 8: thinking I'm actually making the effort to talk about this
• 47:36
  Speaker 8: utter build. However, they don't know how fight your show
• 47:40
  Speaker 8: is on that bombshell. We're going to leave you fine, gentlemen,
• 47:45
  Speaker 8: and look forward to speaking with you again soon. That's
• 47:51
  Speaker 8: the other thing it's getting I used to walk on
• 47:53
  Speaker 8: a Friday night, then it's like a Saturday night. Then
• 47:56
  Speaker 8: it's on a Sunday, and it's becoming a drag to watch,
• 48:00
  Speaker 8: and that's really sad about Star Trek.
• 48:03
  Speaker 3: There you go, Yeah, yeah, I know that, Bane buddy. Yeah.
• 48:08
  Speaker 3: And if you guys want to leave us a voicemail,
• 48:10
  Speaker 3: you can too. So five seven zero six six one
• 48:13
  Speaker 3: zero zero zero one five seven zero six six one
• 48:16
  Speaker 3: zero zero zero one.
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: So, and you can also leave us emails ATTG at
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: gmail dot com. You can send me an email at
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: strong Beard one seven to one at gmail dot com.
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: I've gotten email here. Hi, guys, it's Tim from Australia.
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: So we got both. Tim's not a lot of love
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: for the season of Strange New World. Huh. The crew
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: turned into muppets. Star Trek has never done anything the
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: stupid as this before, except for the time the Transporter
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: turned the crew into kids, or the Transporter put everyone
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: into James Bond program, or the time they went to
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: Sherwood Forest, or the time they fought World War II
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: on Voyager, or the time Irish Gypsies tried to take
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: over the ship, or the time Moriorty took over the ship,
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: or the time that Runabout turned tiny, or the time
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: they ran into Abraham Lincoln in space or the time
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: they ran into Apollo in space, or the time Moriority
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: took over the ship. Strange New Worlds boldly going where
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: Buffy the Vampire Slayer and Angel went before. Mm hmm,
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: thank you Tim very Uh yeah on point.
• 49:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah, fair enough? All right, Uh yeah, so we got
• 49:29
  Speaker 3: some people on the line, got Hipsterspock and Jazmiz will
• 49:32
  Speaker 3: go with hipsterstock first, so there is Hey, Hipster'spock. What's
• 49:36
  Speaker 3: going on?
• 49:37
  Speaker 6: Hello, guys, how are you doing good? Doing good? Luckily
• 49:46
  Speaker 6: I don't have that much access to Strange New World
• 49:51
  Speaker 6: but I figure, okay, it's a puppet episode and I'm
• 49:55
  Speaker 6: just really curious. So I watched it, and I watched
• 49:59
  Speaker 6: the first episode of the season. Well the first episode.
• 50:04
  Speaker 6: It didn't really hate. And I can say that I
• 50:08
  Speaker 6: thought I was gonna hate this one, but really I didn't,
• 50:12
  Speaker 6: which was surprising. But I really didn't hate it. It
• 50:16
  Speaker 6: was just silly and you know, like.
• 50:23
  Speaker 4: Little thing.
• 50:23
  Speaker 6: Uh remember miss Peaky can also karate chop people.
• 50:29
  Speaker 4: Right, so it's canon, got it?
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: Mm?
• 50:32
  Speaker 6: Hmm. And uh and Community and.
• 50:38
  Speaker 4: Get angry like the Hulk.
• 50:40
  Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, that's true, that's true.
• 50:43
  Speaker 7: Huh.
• 50:44
  Speaker 3: I like the idea that starfet officers were like, remember
• 50:46
  Speaker 3: your miss Piggy training.
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
• 50:54
  Speaker 6: And the thing is, uh, you know, Community also did
• 50:58
  Speaker 6: a puppet episode.
• 51:00
  Speaker 3: Okay, yeah you can.
• 51:05
  Speaker 6: I think it's about some of the meaning of Christmas
• 51:08
  Speaker 6: or something, so you can you can look a look
• 51:13
  Speaker 6: that up if you want. But really, I'll probably watch
• 51:17
  Speaker 6: the last episode of the season to see how it's
• 51:20
  Speaker 6: gonna go into the next one. But I guess, you know,
• 51:25
  Speaker 6: just picking and choosing probably helps me stay sane. So
• 51:31
  Speaker 6: that's that. And listening to you guys, you know, having
• 51:36
  Speaker 6: to go through the torture of having to watch all
• 51:40
  Speaker 6: the other ones. That's also kind of entertaining.
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: Thank you for that service, for acknowledging our sacrifice.
• 51:47
  Speaker 6: That's right, that's right, it is, it is duly noticed.
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: Yes, thank you, thank you.
• 51:54
  Speaker 6: All right, I'll let chast Biz on. Thanks guys, and
• 51:58
  Speaker 6: keep up the good work.
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: Say sister Spock, we appreciate it, all right.
• 52:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, And as he said, jas Biz is also waiting,
• 52:05
  Speaker 3: so let's uh, let's bring him on there he is
• 52:09
  Speaker 3: there's jazz biz. Yes, it's real, it's real.
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: What do you think of the puppets?
• 52:16
  Speaker 9: Benny turned into a puppet. So if that episode where
• 52:24
  Speaker 9: Benjamin goes back in time and he's a puppet, I
• 52:26
  Speaker 9: don't think that one would have worked on d S nine.
• 52:30
  Speaker 3: I kind of wanted to know it's real at the
• 52:32
  Speaker 3: end of.
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but this, I don't know.
• 52:41
  Speaker 9: It's like I like Jim Henson's creature shop. You know,
• 52:44
  Speaker 9: this is Jim Henson's son. Brian Hanson created the puppets,
• 52:48
  Speaker 9: so that's why they looked like muppets, not puppets. So
• 52:54
  Speaker 9: you know, of course he would do a good job,
• 52:56
  Speaker 9: but for some reason it wasn't fitting for the series
• 52:59
  Speaker 9: and would have worked with Lower Decks. If they did
• 53:01
  Speaker 9: a crossover Lower Decks episode where they made it live
• 53:05
  Speaker 9: action but their live action was you know, they turned
• 53:07
  Speaker 9: into puppets, would have been kind of funny.
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: So yeah, if they bring Lower Decks back for a
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: season six, maybe that probably would do a puppet episode.
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 53:20
  Speaker 4: The the other option that they could have done if
• 53:22
  Speaker 4: they wanted to do a muppet episode is just shoot
• 53:27
  Speaker 4: a regular episode of the show.
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
• 53:29
  Speaker 4: But everyone's a muppet.
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
• 53:32
  Speaker 4: Don't mention it, don't try any attention to it. Just
• 53:36
  Speaker 4: shoot the episode as if it's totally normal.
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the direction they could have gone.
• 53:43
  Speaker 4: They could do the same thing. They could do the
• 53:45
  Speaker 4: same thing. They could just do an animated episode. They
• 53:47
  Speaker 4: could do a claymation episode, they could do a Pixar
• 53:51
  Speaker 4: style episode, and you just you just make me make
• 53:55
  Speaker 4: no mention of it. It's just we're doing this story,
• 53:59
  Speaker 4: but we're chaining the medium that we're using to present it.
• 54:03
  Speaker 4: I would have been happier with that.
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, I did like the scene where they accidentally,
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: uh they're they're, you know, communicating with the Orion ship
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: just uh audio only, and then Ahura accidentally turns it
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: into visual and like the look on the Orion's faces
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: were like.
• 54:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, would it have been better if they visited like
• 54:31
  Speaker 3: a race of puppets and somehow transporting there they became puppets.
• 54:36
  Speaker 9: Sentient puppets.
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, yeah, I don't know, I don't know. It's
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: it's hard.
• 54:44
  Speaker 9: Yeah, but Carol Kane's voice I cannot understand. I liked
• 54:49
  Speaker 9: what her puppet look like. I can't understand, like that
• 54:53
  Speaker 9: accent she's using for the show. I have a hard time.
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, nobody understands her accent. And it's okay to say
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: it's not racist to say we don't understand her because
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: she'd made it up.
• 55:04
  Speaker 9: Yeah, it's made up backscent, and it's real hard to
• 55:06
  Speaker 9: It's like I can't.
• 55:07
  Speaker 3: Understand maybe you no, I forget who was saying it.
• 55:10
  Speaker 3: But maybe it was that quality of that audio recording too,
• 55:13
  Speaker 3: like the ADR.
• 55:14
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 55:15
  Speaker 3: Whatever however they did, it just did not help her.
• 55:19
  Speaker 9: So because they usually go to studio and they clean
• 55:22
  Speaker 9: it up, you know. Yeah, sometimes it works and sometimes
• 55:26
  Speaker 9: it doesn't.
• 55:27
  Speaker 3: It's like they went into a closet with a kniphone
• 55:29
  Speaker 3: and said, go record your lines.
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 55:31
  Speaker 9: My favorite I watched a movie I was at Warren Peace,
• 55:35
  Speaker 9: like in the fifties, and you can tell this scene
• 55:38
  Speaker 9: was eighty R because she's outside talking and you hear
• 55:40
  Speaker 9: it echo. Yeah, he's in a hallway yep, And I
• 55:45
  Speaker 9: was like, okay, that's a added on scene.
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: So oh.
• 55:50
  Speaker 4: I can remember in the late eighties watching Rubocop but
• 55:56
  Speaker 4: it had aired on network television and just laughing at
• 56:03
  Speaker 4: you know, the scene when they're in the truck and
• 56:05
  Speaker 4: Clarence is screaming at Bobby because he burnt the money
• 56:08
  Speaker 4: when he blew the door. Yeah, okay, so there's you know,
• 56:12
  Speaker 4: he never says the money. It's the f and money
• 56:16
  Speaker 4: every time, but it was. But it was like, you
• 56:18
  Speaker 4: burnt the silly money. You burnt the silly money.
• 56:21
  Speaker 3: It's like, what do you talk about?
• 56:23
  Speaker 4: Nobody talks like that.
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: Yes, the bad sometimes I called him a lot worse.
• 56:30
  Speaker 9: Yeah, I remember watching a scarface on TV and that
• 56:38
  Speaker 9: they asked Tony like, where'd you get the scar from?
• 56:41
  Speaker 9: It said the first of the movie and the cops
• 56:44
  Speaker 9: are interrogating and where'd you get the scar from? He's
• 56:47
  Speaker 9: like from eating pineapple?
• 56:50
  Speaker 3: You know, TV and movies are pretty hilarious.
• 56:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, basic.
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: That Bill said he had a hard time understanding Scottie,
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: And for this episode, I did have a hard time understanding.
• 57:10
  Speaker 2: He's got that real accident. You know, he's got the
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: real thick accent. I mean, yeah, there were a lot
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: of ours being rolled and a lot.
• 57:19
  Speaker 9: Of Yeah, it's kind of funny when you think about it,
• 57:23
  Speaker 9: you know, because he's got a thick accent. But the communicator, right,
• 57:27
  Speaker 9: you can get all the aliens.
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: They can't smooth off the accent.
• 57:32
  Speaker 4: So why doesn't the Universal Translator delete accents? That's a
• 57:37
  Speaker 4: good question.
• 57:38
  Speaker 9: So you can just understand them a lot better because
• 57:41
  Speaker 9: you can talk to Vulcans, talked to fore Angis, talk
• 57:44
  Speaker 9: to Kardassians all that.
• 57:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, but if you're from you know, if you're
• 57:47
  Speaker 4: from Louisiana a lot. Yeah.
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: I was just gonna say, like, you can have it.
• 57:52
  Speaker 2: You could have a setting on the Universal Translator to
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: like American whitewash the accents for you. Yeah, so that
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: they all speak with like a minute like a Midwestern accent.
• 58:01
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, regional to you, American television standard, that's the same.
• 58:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I cannot do it. Captain, I do not have
• 58:09
  Speaker 2: the power.
• 58:11
  Speaker 9: He goes to Boom Howard.
• 58:13
  Speaker 3: Like, yeah, he speaks like a Shakespearean actor, right right. Yeah,
• 58:20
  Speaker 3: Oh that's funny. That's a good idea. Should the should
• 58:23
  Speaker 3: the Universal Translator clean up accents? We could do that, Yeah,
• 58:28
  Speaker 3: I think they should.
• 58:30
  Speaker 9: Yeah, and that'd be a good horror episode. You know,
• 58:34
  Speaker 9: maybe she's working with like some scientists or you know,
• 58:37
  Speaker 9: somebody coming up with the translator.
• 58:40
  Speaker 3: I can't wait for season five when they lie to
• 58:42
  Speaker 3: us and tell us we did exactly what the fans wanted.
• 58:45
  Speaker 3: This is gonna be great. You guys will love it.
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I'm looking forward to the season finale of
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: this this season, I'm halfway there, so yeah, left, Oh,
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: because sounds really good. Tomorrow's enterprise or yes, yesterday's Yeah,
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: Tomorrow's enterprise. I guess it's called There's there's one. Yeah,
• 59:09
  Speaker 2: there's one coming up that doesn't make any sense the
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: lines fantasy whatever. Oh yeah, which seems to me like
• 59:20
  Speaker 2: a rehash of a previous episode.
• 59:23
  Speaker 9: Oh were they Yes, I know you're talking about where
• 59:26
  Speaker 9: they did on the first episode.
• 59:28
  Speaker 2: We've got one and a half seasons left of this shower,
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: which is only fifteen more episodes. Yeah, so are they
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: doing a full season for next year?
• 59:38
  Speaker 3: Nope, it's half. It's like six episodes.
• 59:41
  Speaker 9: Yes, so we got ACKed everything up. There's nothing that
• 59:45
  Speaker 9: they can't do reshoots.
• 59:47
  Speaker 2: Six episodes. Okay, so we've got so we've got one
• 59:49
  Speaker 2: season left. We've got one season left of what is
• 59:53
  Speaker 2: a short season anyways, Right, so there's the last third
• 59:57
  Speaker 2: of a face nine season. Yes, they can't start a
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 2: new storyline, no, watch.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 3: Them try, because the next storyline is gonna be how
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 3: Kirk kicks.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 4: Over can't start a new storyline. Have you never seen Lost?
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 4: They started new storylines the second to last episode. That's right,
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 4: it just didn't pay them off.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 2: Well, that's what I'm afraid of, is they're not going
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 2: to pay off a lot of the things that they've
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 2: started already, or they're going to try to start something
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: and then have to rush to pay it off.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 3: I promise you they're going to leave on a cliffhanger.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 3: So then that way, in their minds, the fans will
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  Speaker 3: want to see the end of it and hopefully give
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 3: them another season in Paramount will keep working with them.
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  Speaker 3: That's going to be their plan.
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  Speaker 9: Don't forget they have a guy that wrote on Loss
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 9: that show runs the show.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, they already showed that season it was it
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 2: was broadcast in nineteen sixty six.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, Well they tried to do Ratha con tonight with
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 9: the or the puppet episode where the needs of the
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  Speaker 9: mini So don't put it past them, guys.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, this episode, it had a lot of feedback
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  Speaker 3: for us. The Facebook group was just nuts with it.
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, over over twelve hundred comments.
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  Speaker 9: So hey, sometimes bad episodes help you guys out.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah, yeah, and I am
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 2: going to enjoy the d Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, but but uh, we're saying it's a bad episode,
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  Speaker 3: but like I said, about sixty percent people loved it,
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  Speaker 3: so yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I guess to be fair to the episode, you have
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 2: to look at it by itself, Paul or something. Yeah,
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 2: and I think of it through the lens of a
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 2: crappy season.
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  Speaker 3: Right, yes, yes, and I think that's how people are
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 3: taking it.
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  Speaker 9: So that's where DS nine paid off, where you had
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 9: those goofy, franky episodes but still had great content.
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 2: Right. You almost had to have those goofy, fringy episodes
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 2: to lighten up the Dominion War, you know when they
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 2: did that for one episode of the ferringis all doing
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 2: that like observation to tarak Nor to rescue Moogie. You know,
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 2: that was in the middle of the worst parts of
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 2: the Dominion War, and so everybody was kind of like
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 2: took a sigh, like, you know, took a took a breath.
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 2: It's like it was yeah, okay, or turned to a woman.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 2: You know, had to have those episodes. We don't need
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 2: those episodes here. We're desperately clamoring for the the main topic,
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 2: the main you.
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 9: Know, Yeah, well, we want to see Pike be a captain,
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 9: and he's kind of a pushover.
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  Speaker 3: You know, it sounds like next week we're going to
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 3: get an actual Star Trek episode.
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 2: Kick Ass Spot.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, well it's any Pike has become not the main
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 3: character in his show.
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah, well we know how his story ends, right, so
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 4: they kind of have to start moving in that direction. Yeah,
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 4: unless they're gonna just throw completely throw counting out the windows.
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 3: What I think they're gonna do they do? That's just yeah,
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 3: I really think that's what they're gonna do.
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  Speaker 9: All I gotta say is, whoever's gonna be the new showrunner,
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 9: All they gotta do is pull a new heart ending.
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 9: And he wakes up and he's on the bridge of
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  Speaker 9: the d with you know, Riker, Indiana's like I had
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 9: the worst nightmare.
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  Speaker 2: M hmm.
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 9: Yeah, and just like so then none of that ship
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 9: ever happened.
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  Speaker 4: So if this episode was a dream, and then Riker
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 4: dreams it's a strange new world, Yeah, it's a dream
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 4: within it within a dream, that's right.
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 3: With with puppets, Yeah, with puppets.
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  Speaker 2: So next week's episode called off Hour. The tagline is
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 2: an off duty window becomes a warp emergency when the
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 2: Enterprise is pushed beyond its safe limits.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, all right, I'm cautiously optimistic hopefully. Yeah, but I'm
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 4: hitting the truck cast.
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah we should run out, all right, Scott?
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 4: Where you're going to put the d at wherever he wants?
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 2: I'm not really sure. Yeah, well we'll have to have
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 2: some family discussions about it.
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 9: Yeah, how are you going to show that d off at?
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 2: I want to show that d off for desiree. There
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 2: you got centrally on that.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, we'll see you guys later and we'll
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 3: catch you next week.
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 4: Bye, live, long and prosper Bye.
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