AI alignment, with Emmett Shear

Complex Systems with Patrick McKenzie (patio11) · Sep 11, 2025 · 1h 27m

Patrick McKenzie (patio11) is joined by Emmett Shear, co-founder of Twitch, former interim CEO of OpenAI, who now runs Softmax AI alignment. Emmett argues that current AI safety approaches focused on "systems of control" are fundamentally flawed and proposes "organic alignment" instead—where AI systems develop genuine care for their local communities rather than following rigid rules.

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Full transcript available here: www.complexsystemspodcast.com/ai-alignment-with-emmett-shear/

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