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Out Of Context: Lil Baby and Charlamagne Tha God · The Breakfast Club

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  Speaker 1: Gee say why.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, ready, little baby, you doing how you're doing?
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  Speaker 1: Brother? Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: Man, man, congratulations, you just turned thirty a few weeks ago.
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  Speaker 2: Man, ge't up now you feel like the old head.
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  Speaker 1: Now for sure?
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  Speaker 3: What you think? What's what's the difference between turning thirty
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  Speaker 3: and you know, growing up in your twenties.
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  Speaker 4: It's crazy that might seem like it, but even when
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  Speaker 4: you twenty nine, you don't feel like the same thirty.
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  Speaker 4: It's just something about when you turn in thirty looking
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  Speaker 4: like a steep hill, you.
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  Speaker 2: Feel like you got more responsibility.
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  Speaker 4: Now you know, I got the same responsibilities I been had.
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  Speaker 4: It's just like, it's just something about the twenties kind
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  Speaker 4: of give you a little leeway or seem like when
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  Speaker 4: you turn thirty, ain't them on leeway?
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  Speaker 2: What do you think made you grow up faster? The
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  Speaker 2: streets of the industry?
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  Speaker 1: I had to say both, you know what I'm saying
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  Speaker 1: his own way. You know what I'm saying the instrument.
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  Speaker 4: Me grow up faster like in like real world, but
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  Speaker 4: I had to still grow up faster in the streets,
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  Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, being young kid doing grown
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  Speaker 4: man stuff.
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  Speaker 1: So it's like both parts.
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  Speaker 3: What's manhood looked like to you at this point in
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  Speaker 3: your life, manhood and leadership, because that's one thing I
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  Speaker 3: loved about your documentary. It was like, Yo, you could
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  Speaker 3: tell you as a leader from the beginning.
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  Speaker 4: Man to me, now it's like own this stuff for
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  Speaker 4: working tours on it to make sure like you and
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  Speaker 4: your family cold ever trying to make sure your family
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  Speaker 4: good fail.
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  Speaker 2: Is it true that your father left when you were
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  Speaker 2: just two years old?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, sounding like I ain't gonna say left my mama.
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  Speaker 4: I left single parent, you know what I'm saying. I
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  Speaker 4: know my dad signed the family well, you know what
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  Speaker 4: I'm saying.
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  Speaker 3: But it was just your mom and your two sisters. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: so you were kind of required to be the man
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  Speaker 3: of the house early.
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  Speaker 4: Right, something aspens. But like you're saying, like you grow
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  Speaker 4: up fast though, you know what I'm saying. So even
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  Speaker 4: when you do see stuff that you aren't used to,
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  Speaker 4: you gotta like get with it quick.
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  Speaker 2: How does how does that experience impact the way you
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  Speaker 2: show up as a father?
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  Speaker 4: I Number one, I don't want my kids to live
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  Speaker 4: a life out live no sorter kind of way, you know,
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  Speaker 4: and they won't you kind of life I live?
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  Speaker 2: Does the being a celebrity make it hard for you
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  Speaker 2: to be your hands on father.
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  Speaker 4: Definitely, I can't be there as much as I want
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  Speaker 4: to be, you know what I'm saying. We can't do
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  Speaker 4: like the regular stuff. And normally we still try to
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  Speaker 4: do like regular shiit what normal people do. But life,
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  Speaker 4: for the most part, I'm always gone, you know what
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  Speaker 4: I'm saying. If I do see them, it's for a
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  Speaker 4: couple of days. They just not really getting settled. Then
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  Speaker 4: they gotta go again. So it's definitely a So I
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  Speaker 4: advise people to just wait.
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  Speaker 2: You say you're vig.
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  Speaker 1: I advise people to wait. And you got like a
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  Speaker 1: career like mine, you know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 2: To have kids? Yeah, work, Yeah, how long would you wait?
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  Speaker 4: Even if thirty is you know what I'm saying, And
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  Speaker 4: like get through your twenty kind of go through that
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  Speaker 4: lifestyle and kind of get away from all that so
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  Speaker 4: you don't even gotta do it later on, you know
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  Speaker 4: what I'm saying, Like get it out of your system.
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  Speaker 1: That's how I feel.
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  Speaker 3: How strong is that to have a I mean, how
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  Speaker 3: good is it to have a real strong support system,
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  Speaker 3: like you know, to have the right mother, your children
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  Speaker 3: and all of that I mean.
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  Speaker 4: Everything to me, definitely, because you know what I'm saying,
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  Speaker 4: take a vantage to raise a family, you know what
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  Speaker 4: I'm saying, or a kid, so everybody him put matters.
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  Speaker 2: You know, it took me.
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  Speaker 3: I was I was talking to p earlier man, and
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  Speaker 3: I was saying that I feel like the Internet wants
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  Speaker 3: you to fall off so bad. It just seemed like overnight,
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  Speaker 3: little they had a little baby fell off campaign.
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  Speaker 2: Where do you think that came from?
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  Speaker 4: I don't ein't care really I'll be saying ship like that,
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  Speaker 4: but I was like where it came from?
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  Speaker 1: And I don't mean that's how I get by, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I don't even get in and shit like that.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I feel like they don't want you to grow.
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  Speaker 3: I feel like, you know, after the bigger picture, everybody
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  Speaker 3: saw a little baby in a different light and they
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  Speaker 3: wanted they wanted more that, but then they wanted you
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  Speaker 3: to do the screen shit too.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, It's like it's like giving a tape. You know
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  Speaker 4: what I'm saying to the point where I kind of
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  Speaker 4: understand it. And what I mean by that is like
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  Speaker 4: I ain't like I really didn't ever take them with
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  Speaker 4: me to transition, you know, what I'm saying, So like
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  Speaker 4: a transition, I don't expect certain people to certain fans
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  Speaker 4: catch up to it, like you know, sometimes you gotta
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  Speaker 4: like dumb it down.
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  Speaker 3: How do you take them through the transition though? Do
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  Speaker 3: you do it through like interviews? Do you do it
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  Speaker 3: through music?
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  Speaker 2: Are you?
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  Speaker 1: That's the part I'm learning right now?
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  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, Like, that's what I'm trying
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  Speaker 4: to that's just giving it being experience, you know what
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  Speaker 4: I'm saying, because of course, whatever I'm doing it, as
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  Speaker 4: i'm doing it, I know what i'm doing.
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  Speaker 1: I know I'm changing.
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  Speaker 4: But if I just drop a song or if I
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  Speaker 4: just do something, you don't know what I done went through.
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  Speaker 4: You don't know the changes, So I can't even expect
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  Speaker 4: you to be up to speed or like what I'm on.
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  Speaker 1: So how to start looking edit from that aspect.
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  Speaker 3: The tricky shit about that though, is if they want
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  Speaker 3: you to be in the street, but then when you
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  Speaker 3: crash out they call you stupid.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, so I ain't gonna get so I always know
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  Speaker 4: I wasn't gonna get up and get caught up in that.
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  Speaker 4: I'd rather sit it out or I got damned be
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  Speaker 4: involved in that, you know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 2: I saw you post.
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  Speaker 3: You posted that the last couple of years, you've been
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  Speaker 3: struggling life wise, maybe even mentally so, so where you
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  Speaker 3: at now.
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  Speaker 4: I'm in a better state, but like still and then
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  Speaker 4: when I say stuff like that, well I don't even
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  Speaker 4: usually say stuff like that.
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  Speaker 1: But I mean, like far as like that type of shit,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 4: That's like a big transition in your head for you
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  Speaker 4: to go from like where I went to like where
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  Speaker 4: I'm trying to go.
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  Speaker 1: And it was like a turning point in the last
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  Speaker 1: two years.
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  Speaker 4: From being this nigga from the streets or whatever to
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  Speaker 4: trying to you know what I'm saying, actually go the
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  Speaker 4: right path, you know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 1: So that's like a real mind boggling thing.
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  Speaker 2: What was it for you?
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  Speaker 3: Was it a was it a dollar amount you saw?
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  Speaker 3: Was it the the company you was keeping?
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  Speaker 2: Like?
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  Speaker 3: What made you realize like I got that A vivoting
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  Speaker 3: a little bit of everything, you know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 4: Even just always like even when I was doing shit,
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  Speaker 4: I always live like I don't got none to lose,
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  Speaker 4: Like now I got so much to lose.
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  Speaker 3: It's not the same, Well what you've been going through though, Like,
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  Speaker 3: like what have you been going through that made you
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  Speaker 3: kind of like just fall back a little.
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  Speaker 1: Bit saying everything like people like get in trouble around you.
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  Speaker 4: You start seeing people don't really love you for real,
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  Speaker 4: or people might be just coming and do the craziest
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  Speaker 4: things to get a few dollars at you. You starting
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  Speaker 4: to like at first when you when you're first going
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  Speaker 4: through it, it's all new, so it's like a bird
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  Speaker 4: to you. Then you kind of start catching on and
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  Speaker 4: then after a while you're like, damn, I see what's
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  Speaker 4: really going on?
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  Speaker 2: Is this why we haven't gotten a lot of music
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  Speaker 2: out of you over the last few years?
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  Speaker 4: Definitely because I rap about like I ain't really no writer,
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  Speaker 4: you know, I finished out, so it's like all in
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  Speaker 4: my head, you know what I'm saying. So in my head,
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  Speaker 4: I ain't in a missal space, right, missr space. I
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  Speaker 4: ain't gonna beat like just rap man, do.
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  Speaker 3: You feel like music? You're vulnerable enough? That's one of
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  Speaker 3: the critiques I hear.
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  Speaker 1: I's not learning with that all that shit. Mean, you
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  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 4: From the way I've been explained, maybe not, you know,
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  Speaker 4: what I'm saying, I can understand why that was more
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  Speaker 4: what I was just saying, like, if you.
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  Speaker 1: Don't take them on the journey, they kind of be
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  Speaker 1: kind of lost a little bit.
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  Speaker 4: They don't even really know the aspect of you saying
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  Speaker 4: something doing something.
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  Speaker 3: Because when I talk to people, they tell me that
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  Speaker 3: they want to hear more pain in Little Babies music,
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  Speaker 3: And it sounds like behind the scenes, you going through
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  Speaker 3: that just not putting it into music.
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  Speaker 4: Because I had to learn how to like translate when
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  Speaker 4: I'm actually going through into the music. You know what
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  Speaker 4: I'm saying, when it goddamn music. The reason why they
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  Speaker 4: even going through this.
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  Speaker 2: Shit, they want to hear more emotionally scarred shit like that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, all those records hard for you to make.
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  Speaker 1: It's super easy.
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  Speaker 2: You just don't want to expose yourself in certain way,
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  Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and not that I don't want to it, just
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  Speaker 4: I'm accustomed to not doing it. So that's like, you know,
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  Speaker 4: you're getting your feelings every now and then. They gangs
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  Speaker 4: just always, and they feelings, you know.
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  Speaker 3: You think that's like the protective instinct that you just
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  Speaker 3: carry with yourself from being in the street like if
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  Speaker 3: you show too much of yourself, you might be food
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  Speaker 3: to people.
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  Speaker 2: That's what wolves come.
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  Speaker 1: Up for sure.
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  Speaker 2: But you are artists now though, so it's a balance
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  Speaker 2: of yes.
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  Speaker 4: So it's like that's the transition of the mental state
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  Speaker 4: I had to go through to get that program there reprogrammed.
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  Speaker 3: I think after Bigger Picture, people expected you to evolve
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  Speaker 3: into a more mature artist and just make music that
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  Speaker 3: reflected like more of the pain you may be feeling.
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  Speaker 3: Is that what you were looking to do with five
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  Speaker 3: AM and Insecurities?
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  Speaker 4: Anah, I'm looking to do that with like dombin Et album, right, Okay,
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  Speaker 4: I'm dropping the album first call, like wo wow. That's
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  Speaker 4: kind of like trying to lead them up into that
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  Speaker 4: versus just like jumping into it.
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  Speaker 1: What is wayn I'm gonna be more freet music or yes,
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  Speaker 1: in a sense, but I still put like some of
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  Speaker 1: the songs they we're going to Dominie album on whim
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  Speaker 1: because I ain't want them to just wait for long.
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  Speaker 4: And I know, like you're saying, I gotta court audience
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  Speaker 4: for like those emotionally scaring tight songs, those paying tight songs.
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  Speaker 3: So Dominique is gonna be like personal like yeah, more personal?
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  Speaker 3: Does that scare you?
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  Speaker 1: Not? No more?
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  Speaker 4: But like that's the part of the two years what
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  Speaker 4: I've been going through and shit like that, you know
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  Speaker 4: what I'm saying. So I already they kind of went
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  Speaker 4: through the scary part.
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  Speaker 3: You say on one of the records. Now you say,
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  Speaker 3: can't be vulnerable. Who I'm going to talk to when
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  Speaker 3: I'm going through it?
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  Speaker 1: Right?
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  Speaker 2: You can afford therapy, little baby, all that money you making.
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  Speaker 1: I ain't a firm believer in therapy. Okay, you know
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  Speaker 1: what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 2: Have you tried it though?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah? I mean I haven't tried it personally, but in
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  Speaker 1: a since I have. You know what I'm saying. I
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  Speaker 1: got people who I talk to, you know what I'm saying,
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  Speaker 1: who will play as a therapist.
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  Speaker 4: But I feel like everybody like regular people, So it
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  Speaker 4: ain't too much a therapist can real they do for
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  Speaker 4: you and just like have an open ear. But you
• 10:01
  Speaker 4: being like a celebrity and all that, it get weird,
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  Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, Like who does the go to God go to?
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  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, So that's why I never always been like I
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  Speaker 4: ain't saying I'm gonna getst everybody.
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  Speaker 1: I don't even cross my mind though, who do.
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  Speaker 3: You talk to.
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  Speaker 4: Certain people about certain stuff? You know what I'm saying,
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  Speaker 4: Like I know I can talk to him about this,
• 10:20
  Speaker 4: I can talk to her about this like certain people
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  Speaker 4: certain stuff.
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  Speaker 3: Another line, you say, how you manage to get everything
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  Speaker 3: you wanted but still ain't happy?
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  Speaker 1: Right because it's like the more money, more problems. You
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  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. You know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 4: So it's like you think, once you get everything all this,
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  Speaker 4: you'll be like happy boy, here go something else. But
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  Speaker 4: it's a part of learning how life goes. You know
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  Speaker 4: what I'm saying, ain't gonna never stop?
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  Speaker 2: Are you happy now?
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  Speaker 1: It ain't happy as I want to be? But I'm
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  Speaker 1: in a state though. You know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 2: What makes little baby happy at this point.
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  Speaker 1: Is that's how I know I ain't happens I want
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  Speaker 1: to because I don't know damn. I mean your kids, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: definitely like joyful for them.
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  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, is all of this what
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  Speaker 3: you thought it was gonna be, like just the success
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  Speaker 3: that you was.
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  Speaker 1: I ain't never know what it could be, so I
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  Speaker 1: ain't thinking nothing.
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  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, like, I ain't never had
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  Speaker 4: a imagination for it.
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  Speaker 2: So you never dreamed of this at all.
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  Speaker 3: So when you was in the street and then you
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  Speaker 3: started rapping, you even just looking around Atlanta and looking
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  Speaker 3: at all the successful.
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  Speaker 4: Artists, I know what like big was, but I ain't
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  Speaker 4: know how like what really big was? You know, I
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  Speaker 4: ain't really never know nothing about the real music industry,
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  Speaker 4: And like I couldn't think I could get be worth
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  Speaker 4: when I'm worth now reached the levels out I ain't
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  Speaker 4: even know that really existed. I ain't know nothing about
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  Speaker 4: platinum and gold and album seals and.
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  Speaker 1: Being the new thing streams, and I ain't never know
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  Speaker 1: nothing about it.
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  Speaker 4: So even me saying like I know I was gonna
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  Speaker 4: be big, I couldn't even I wouldn't even know what
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  Speaker 4: that was to even think that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, what do you think it is about Atlanta that
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  Speaker 3: makes like dudes from the street become like these international superstars,
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  Speaker 3: Like what is it about Atlanta?
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  Speaker 1: Fael?
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  Speaker 4: Like, you know, hip hop was already like based off
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  Speaker 4: in the streets and all started from like the streets,
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  Speaker 4: So it's just a land as one of those street
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  Speaker 4: places the same way where they're everywhere you know what
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  Speaker 4: I'm saying. But I just feel like the swag and
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  Speaker 4: the tone there and Land got making more successful then
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  Speaker 4: a lot of other places.
• 12:19
  Speaker 2: What don't you like about the game?
• 12:23
  Speaker 1: They shoot them up bin bin everywhere and everybody. Shit,
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  Speaker 1: I don't like that.
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  Speaker 2: You feel like you always gotta watch you back.
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  Speaker 4: No, no, just it's just creates a target on everybody,
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  Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. And that ain't what we're
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  Speaker 4: supposed to be in it for. Well, I ain't. You
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  Speaker 4: know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 3: I forgot what record it was, but you said you
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  Speaker 3: got all of this it's basically PTSD from all of
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  Speaker 3: the all of the shootouts and stuff that you've been
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  Speaker 3: Did you think that once you got into the industry
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  Speaker 3: like that would kind of go away, like you kind
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  Speaker 3: of escaped that.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, But it's because it's like that's what I was
• 13:01
  Speaker 4: telling people. You put yourself on a bigger scale now
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  Speaker 4: that you're in the industry.
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  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 4: I ain't even have problems when I four hours a rapper.
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  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 4: The more you get bigger than you get bigger than everybody, though,
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  Speaker 4: not just the fans, not just the girls, not just
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  Speaker 4: the kids, everybody included.
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  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 2: Was it a hard transition for you? Are they are
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  Speaker 2: there still?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah?
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  Speaker 4: I'm like almost all the ways. I didn't transition all
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  Speaker 4: the way. Like I would never leave Atlanta, you know
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  Speaker 4: what I'm saying. I live in another state, so I
• 13:31
  Speaker 4: didn't transition all the way. But it's still at times
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  Speaker 4: where you know what I'm saying, it's like they'll fuck
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  Speaker 4: with you a little bit.
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  Speaker 3: Where'd you get the name wham? I know I stand
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  Speaker 3: for hoo harder than me, But where'd you get.
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  Speaker 1: That name from from?
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  Speaker 4: Like when wam bitch on the baby? Okay, one of
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  Speaker 4: my guys just started calling me wham and everybody started
• 13:47
  Speaker 4: calling me whim.
• 13:49
  Speaker 2: I saw Doug said. Doug said, what what wham says? Goals?
• 13:52
  Speaker 3: Then you put it up on Billboard? What did that
• 13:54
  Speaker 3: post mean to you?
• 13:55
  Speaker 1: Did you?
• 13:56
  Speaker 2: Did you speak the Doug a lot when you got
• 13:57
  Speaker 2: locked up? Yeah?
• 13:58
  Speaker 1: Definitely.
• 14:01
  Speaker 3: His dad.
• 14:01
  Speaker 2: His dad said that.
• 14:05
  Speaker 3: He got at you once for not going to thugs
• 14:07
  Speaker 3: court dates. Her dad say anything, that's how you felt
• 14:13
  Speaker 3: about that?
• 14:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 14:15
  Speaker 2: What's what's the relationship with you? With you and thug?
• 14:17
  Speaker 3: Now I know he's on the new album their relationship,
• 14:20
  Speaker 3: say relationship with man?
• 14:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 14:21
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, is it hard to make
• 14:23
  Speaker 3: music because he's under so much scrutiny And I know
• 14:26
  Speaker 3: the lawyer is probably looking at.
• 14:28
  Speaker 1: He's super talented, you know what I'm saying. So really
• 14:31
  Speaker 1: like he doing with ease?
• 14:33
  Speaker 2: Mhm? When when? When?
• 14:35
  Speaker 3: When he said? What William says goals? What did what
• 14:39
  Speaker 3: did you say? Or what did you want to say?
• 14:41
  Speaker 2: Like what?
• 14:44
  Speaker 1: And when? Like literally that you know what I'm saying.
• 14:47
  Speaker 1: It's like a inside.
• 14:50
  Speaker 2: What's the relationship with you and Gunner right now?
• 14:54
  Speaker 1: I've got no relationship? Yeah mm hmm.
• 14:58
  Speaker 3: The internet says the and then that says you can't
• 15:00
  Speaker 3: you can't make hits without dinner. So do you think
• 15:03
  Speaker 3: y'all ever make music again?
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: Any there? Say anything? I mean it hits I got
• 15:09
  Speaker 1: absolutely So that don't even make sense.
• 15:12
  Speaker 2: You know how much you pay attention to that tonight?
• 15:15
  Speaker 4: Man, Like I only see what I gotta see, you
• 15:18
  Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, And I try my basics just
• 15:22
  Speaker 4: keep going ship like that. I don't feed into that
• 15:25
  Speaker 4: comments and all that some shit just be the headline.
• 15:27
  Speaker 4: You gotta see it, you know, what I'm saying. For
• 15:29
  Speaker 4: the most part, I don't even get answer shit like that.
• 15:32
  Speaker 2: I know, I know Thug says what Wayam says goes.
• 15:34
  Speaker 3: But if Thug says, hey, I'm gonna get in the studio,
• 15:37
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna max some music with Gonna Baby, I want
• 15:40
  Speaker 3: you to participate, would you?
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: I don't see that happen.
• 15:47
  Speaker 3: Now.
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying like I don't want you to participate.
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: I don't know what nobody else will do. You know
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But but just as far as me.
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
• 15:55
  Speaker 3: You dropped the three fifty record and you said I
• 15:58
  Speaker 3: ain't never saying nothing about it. Nigga, you know you
• 16:00
  Speaker 3: was a rat and everybody thought you was talking about.
• 16:03
  Speaker 4: But everybody's just the Internet where they're gonna create. I
• 16:05
  Speaker 4: talk about Rat, say every song I had since I
• 16:07
  Speaker 4: started rapping. So now you know, be like they just
• 16:14
  Speaker 4: created a narrative and go, I don't even be telling
• 16:15
  Speaker 4: about it soever a rat?
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, what's your relationship with you? See?
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: Because I know you just started your own label.
• 16:26
  Speaker 4: I started my own label, but I ain't signed on
• 16:28
  Speaker 4: my own label. You know what I'm saying, like I'm
• 16:30
  Speaker 4: still signing you.
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: See, so you still the soldier with QC, the general
• 16:34
  Speaker 3: with was a glass windows.
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: You changed your name from from four PF. Wh why
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: do you change the type change the name.
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: Ain't changed your name, it's just a whole new company.
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: Okay, so four PF still still exists.
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: What was your reaction when you heard Kendrick mention you
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: and not like us? He said a little baby helped
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: you get your lingo up and reference to Drake. What
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: do you think when you heard that?
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: I ain't really like that side of him.
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: So, you know, but you and Drake always had a
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: good relationship, helps.
• 17:06
  Speaker 4: You a lot great relationship. Yeah, so you know you're
• 17:09
  Speaker 4: kind of like it's just with any situation, like you
• 17:12
  Speaker 4: and him was arguing of hell you're gonna say, but
• 17:14
  Speaker 4: you know, like, don't bring you in it.
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: I don't want be having nothing to do with it.
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: I got it.
• 17:19
  Speaker 4: I'll be having not saying whatever they got going on
• 17:21
  Speaker 4: there really now, but I'll be like I feel like,
• 17:25
  Speaker 4: to me, like rapping ship be my work. You know
• 17:27
  Speaker 4: what I'm saying. It's like I don't I don't want
• 17:29
  Speaker 4: that type of shit that work you know what I'm saying.
• 17:31
  Speaker 4: That's what like even you saying, like what's your relationship
• 17:33
  Speaker 4: with Gunna?
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: I ain't.
• 17:34
  Speaker 4: I ain't here it. I ain't in it for that
• 17:36
  Speaker 4: type of ship. You know what I'm saying. I ain't
• 17:38
  Speaker 4: on that.
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: Well.
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: I bought that up just just just because of the
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: music music aspect of it, because you know people y'all,
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: y'all made hits together, and some people want that to
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: get right, So you don't.
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: Think that's gonna happen.
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: One thing I loved about your documentary, man, is it
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: just shows you know how much you mean to this,
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: to the city city of Atlanta. So when you have
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: a city that loves you that much, do you ever
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: feel like you can just completely completely let let it
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: go like the street, the street aspect of it, because
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: you can't.
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: You can't be that person no more.
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: It's just like just different aspects of it. You know
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying.
• 18:21
  Speaker 4: I still be that personal donate millions to the neighborhood,
• 18:25
  Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. But that don't mean I
• 18:27
  Speaker 4: gotta be hanging in the neighborhood, you know what I'm saying.
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: So it's like I'm still feeding the streets one way
• 18:31
  Speaker 4: or other. You know what I'm saying, It's just I
• 18:33
  Speaker 4: got a different way of going about it.
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: Now, do you think it's a culture shock when they
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: see you like out with the Michael Rubens of the world.
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure it's a culture shop.
• 18:41
  Speaker 4: But that's more like me very vulnerable, Like you can't
• 18:43
  Speaker 4: even imagine that type of shit beyond you know what
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: I'm saying, I don't just hang with people. I ain't
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: one of them. As you got this city, I'm a
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: whole man, you know what I'm saying. He actually get
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: a nigga game. Ren had like real conversations. You can
• 18:56
  Speaker 4: like talk to somebody on a high level about like
• 18:58
  Speaker 4: questions that when don't be knowing you know what I'm saying,
• 19:01
  Speaker 4: they be knowing that shit.
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: And I think what the streets don't understand is when
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: you got relationships.
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: The streets saying the Internet ain't the same. So you
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: you're saying with the Internet saying they ain't the streets.
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, I'm two different things.
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: That is that's that is very true.
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: That is very true.
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: But so what the Internet don't understand is when you
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: around people like that, you getting gained, probably getting more money,
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: and that you're able to get back to the streets
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: even more.
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: Turning all the rest of the niggas onto it, like, look,
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: this is how we do it. That's right, you know
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: what I'm saying. But I understand that like the internet
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: want to know their in I also don't break it
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: down for.
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: Them to know that either. You know what I'm saying,
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: So I take it with the grant it's hot, like
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: I can.
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: I can see why they'll say that because I already
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: know I have to dumb it all the way down
• 19:44
  Speaker 4: for them even understand. You gotta be a cold motherfucker
• 19:47
  Speaker 4: to keep the ship I be doing. You know what
• 19:49
  Speaker 4: I'm saying on the on it just as far as
• 19:51
  Speaker 4: the naked, I ain't telling you.
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: I don't understand why they just don't. They don't respect actions,
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Like you.
• 19:58
  Speaker 4: Don't see it, you know you gotta do down. You
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: gotta say it what it is, and you don't do
• 20:03
  Speaker 4: that directly. They go it whatever they see directly.
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: Do you do you feel like you gotta tell them
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: every single thing you do.
• 20:09
  Speaker 4: For the hood, Like, hey, I don't even tell them
• 20:12
  Speaker 4: I do the most or the most the most most.
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: I don't got a PRBI team behind it, no nothing,
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: no never, I really the most millions a year.
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: How do you?
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: How do you handle raising a son and cole parenting
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: with somebody who's also a public figure.
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: That's kind of hard, you know what I'm saying.
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: Definitely, because it's like you always be attached to that person,
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, even if even it's just
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: in today's time. The other person don't even have to
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: be in the line like they gonna automatically be if
• 20:40
  Speaker 4: I had a child with them, you know what I'm saying.
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: So that's like something I'm gonna have to battle no
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: matter what.
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: In a sense, How how you been able to keep
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: your personal life private?
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: You know?
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: I just don't go on the Internet about it.
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: It's like easy to me, like I don't even need
• 20:59
  Speaker 4: like cause I don't look at the internet as like
• 21:02
  Speaker 4: my fans and I look at the internet like the
• 21:04
  Speaker 4: whole world. It's like certain shot, I'm just not gonna
• 21:06
  Speaker 4: voluntarily tell the whole world for nothing, or like I
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: can't get validation from like come in saying that type
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: of stuff.
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: I don't function like that.
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: You do realize though, the Internet just be fucking with
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: you because you're successful.
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't get into it, you know what I'm saying,
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: because you know you can't be Then they'll say it's
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: Scott Green and many keep coming hard day.
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: That's right. So I am don't ready to get in
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: the missing.
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: Because it will fuck you up mentally definite.
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: They'll say one thing on the internet, but then you
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: go and perform in front of thirty thousand people and
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: everybody's singing your music word for word.
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: So who's supposed to listen.
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: To That's the That's the only thing. You gotta know
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: what the weave in, what the weave out. Sometimes the
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: comments could be correct, you know what I'm saying. Sometimes
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: sit people be saying could be correct, you know what
• 21:53
  Speaker 4: I'm saying.
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: So you gotta kind of go for what you feel.
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: Get you a team around who can help you in
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: those aspects. You know what I'm saying.
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: What do you feel right now? You should be doing
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: in the studio, just musically, like if you didn't have
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: to listen to nobody, you know, not the screeze, not
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: the internet, just what a.
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: Little baby now?
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: Okay, nobody and I still listen to what people got
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: to say, Yes to see what they say, you know
• 22:17
  Speaker 4: what I'm saying. But once you're listening and you get
• 22:19
  Speaker 4: ten different opinions from ten different people.
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: It's like you throw away it got your here, you
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying.
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: The more successful you got, do you feel like you
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: got a greater sense of responsibility?
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: Definitely?
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: Do you feel feel feel pressure to just release music
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: because of the high demand that people have for a
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: little baby They always they always want a little new,
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: little baby music.
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: It's like a good problem have feeling no pressure though.
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: But then when you take a couple of years off,
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: that's when they started. Oh he fell off, he fell off,
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: he fell off.
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: He is what it is, you know what I'm saying.
• 22:54
  Speaker 4: That's how I really go about it life, total honesty.
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: You said that in the I could in a minute.
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: You said, blood, sweat, and tears come with each check.
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: It ain't nowhere easy. So what's been the hardest part
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: of your career so far?
• 23:10
  Speaker 4: Share everything from just starting this career.
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: I jump into her career kind of like big you
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, So I had to adapt from
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: behind It ain't like I grind it for five years
• 23:21
  Speaker 4: then got to hit.
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, I grounded five days and
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: gotta hit. So now I got adjestion.
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: God damn, this whole new lifestyle shit, I really know
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: nothing about.
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: Do you talk about just like as far as being.
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: Both union, that's god damn.
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: I already had a lifestyle of like having money, so
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: that was the only good thing with just period. People
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: knowing you, people taking picsures of you. You know, you
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: can't go to this player public like you hear yourself,
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: you seeing yourself everywhere. You know what I'm saying, Like
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: it's a super big, rastic change.
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: But now it's business.
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: That's I guess that's what you're trying to show people
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: like I'm doing business now.
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: Really I was doing business the whole time.
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: Okay, you know what I'm saying.
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: And I love for my famis we relate to it,
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: but it's still the business aspect.
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: Of it, you know what I'm saying.
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: I wonder they would even understand.
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: They wouldn't. That's why I don't trying to press it
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: too hard. I understand that they would.
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, is there certain things you
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: want them to know them, like as far as your
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: business is concerned, Like I really want y'all to know
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: I'm doing this, and if y'all knew what I was doing,
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: y'a would understand what.
• 24:21
  Speaker 4: I always tell the guys and shit because they want
• 24:24
  Speaker 4: me to. They always want me to like clear this
• 24:27
  Speaker 4: up or like he'll know I say this. I feel
• 24:29
  Speaker 4: like when a day right for them to know, they
• 24:31
  Speaker 4: gonna know, and then I'm still gonna look like the
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: bitch in the word, Like damn the whole time, you
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: could have easily just told us, you know what I'm saying,
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: where I rather just when day you're gonna see it
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: is inevitable.
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: Who are your OG's in the game right now? Like
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: like what's what's some of the most important lessons.
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: You learned from them?
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: Like like in the game on any level, just any
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: o g's around you, whether it could be P Michael Ruber,
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: I keep.
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: I keep ogs, Okay, you know what I'm saying, Like
• 24:56
  Speaker 4: I ain't never That's how my name I got a
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: little baby name from being a little boy hanging and
• 25:00
  Speaker 4: all the grown man.
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: So I got five or ten people call my phone
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: every day from old niggas who are own hundred men
• 25:07
  Speaker 4: already from real the state, never been nowhere on the scene.
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: Niggas who rap games, Swiss beats. You know what I'm saying,
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: Like I'm always having open here. You know what I'm saying,
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: I want to listen. You know what I'm saying.
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: I like having a big home on somebody who I
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: can call it get the game from. You know what
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: I'm saying.
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: Do they understand because I mean it's it's you're still
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: your little baby the artist, or you might have ojis
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: who do things business wise?
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: Do they understand what you're going through as a artist?
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: Like?
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: Who are the people that you talk through from that
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: perspective perspect I.
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: Don't really talk to nobody like that because I don't
• 25:37
  Speaker 4: really know nobody. But you know, people like Young Thug.
• 25:40
  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying that like I can talk
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: to him about stuff like that, cause I ain't really
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: even cool with rappers to even really just talk to
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: a nigga.
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: I mean you and Thug go back.
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: We saw that in the documentary how He's He would
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: pay you to stay out the street because he just
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: believed in you?
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: Did he believe in what? Did he believe in you?
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: As a rap fel just a person?
• 26:01
  Speaker 4: Like you believe it, just a person if I was
• 26:04
  Speaker 4: gonna rap me and that's like just the whole everything,
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: because it wasn't even more so like songs because at
• 26:11
  Speaker 4: like you hurt me rap no other.
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: Time rap two three songs. Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: So it can't be like b your bar's immaculate. You
• 26:20
  Speaker 4: gotta be like what you're seeing me as a person.
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: How did that that time influence not just the way
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: you you saw a thug, but the way you saw yourself?
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: Because when people see things in you that that you
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: don't normally see in yourself, like you just start showing
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: up for yourself.
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: Different Definitely if you get a little bit for you
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: invest shot and feed off of.
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: It, and that one he's one of the closest people to.
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely.
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: You know you credited a long conversation with with Little
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: Marlow Rest in Peace for being the turning point that
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: made you take rap serious.
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: So so how did that impact you?
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: Not take rap serious? Rap period? This rap period? You
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like I get to go to
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: the studio. You're like, man, we need to make a song.
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Man, a song.
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: The fact that he believed in you?
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: Does that remain one of the driving forces and what
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: keeps you even going now?
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: Like and now it's so much give me driving forces,
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying.
• 27:22
  Speaker 4: It's like I had to devote my whole life to
• 27:24
  Speaker 4: this now because it's like I can't go back to
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: being a regular person no matter what, you know what
• 27:29
  Speaker 4: I'm saying, Even if I was a regular, I still
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: want to be a regular person. So that's the drive
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: right there, you know what I'm saying. And like I
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: always want to leave a legacy, like I don't want
• 27:37
  Speaker 4: to never.
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: Be a used to be, a could have been. You
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying.
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: People don't talk about that enough.
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: Man.
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: They don't talk about how like you know, when you
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: got people that believe in you in a real way,
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: whether it's Doug, whether it's.
• 27:48
  Speaker 4: It's a whole lot, Yeah, that makes a big difference
• 27:51
  Speaker 4: and everything you gotta just be music. When you got
• 27:54
  Speaker 4: people who believe it you a little a little dry.
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: Who do you believe in right now? Because you got
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: your your label who do you believe in?
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: You see?
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: Do you see like one of them next super starts
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: coming from Atlanta under you?
• 28:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely. I ain't from I ain't from Alabama. I
• 28:13
  Speaker 4: definitely seeing in them. I got a new Their artist
• 28:15
  Speaker 4: ain't new.
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: But what I see in them might not be with
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: everybody else seeing them though.
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, How.
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: Do you how do you still let them grow as
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: artists even though you are on a different level because
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: you're seeing things that they haven't seen or or may
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: not see.
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: They may not have the success you have.
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: So how do you just let them be them and
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: not put too much pressure on them?
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: They I don't got no pressure on them or whatever
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: y'all want to do.
• 28:45
  Speaker 4: Okay, I still just explaining y'all how I did it though,
• 28:48
  Speaker 4: because I because I shot up fast, but I took
• 28:51
  Speaker 4: all the steps too.
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: I just did it fast, you know what I'm saying.
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: So like I had to go through everything they going
• 28:56
  Speaker 4: through already, so I can tell them, man, try to
• 29:00
  Speaker 4: for them a little bit.
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: Do you feel like you put too much pressure on
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: yourself this as far as who you are, not even
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: this little baby as far as its being dominique, like
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: probably taking care of like people.
• 29:10
  Speaker 4: In your hood, you know, because I'm as shit like
• 29:15
  Speaker 4: I ain't never scared to say no, you know what
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: I'm saying. I know when I can say, you know
• 29:19
  Speaker 4: what I'm saying, it's like I don't put myself in
• 29:21
  Speaker 4: that position where it's like I'm sketched out trying to
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: do for everybody else. Like maybe back in the day
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: I might have would have been, but like at this point,
• 29:28
  Speaker 4: my kids and they had my height.
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Fucking nigga, What was the program.
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: You enrolled in at Harvard Business School?
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: Uh? A business class called Launch and Invents.
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: What made you want to do that?
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: Was that?
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: Swhere?
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah? Swiss and kids?
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: What they told you?
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: Like?
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: What did they tell you that made you want to
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: do it?
• 29:49
  Speaker 4: Swiss had already been telling me to do it for
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: about a year and two or three more people told
• 29:54
  Speaker 4: me like they don't even know I know him, Like
• 29:56
  Speaker 4: I'm telling you, Swiss been that guy for you to
• 29:58
  Speaker 4: go away? I think you know a nigga, just see
• 30:00
  Speaker 4: what I be on, Like I don't really living then,
• 30:03
  Speaker 4: Like after the third person caught me, I'm like man,
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: this is a third person talking or I just went.
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: On and guy in the class, what do you learn
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: from it?
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: Like, I.
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: Already know how to do the basis of a business.
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: It's just like us. You know what I'm saying. It's
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: it's basically the same thing.
• 30:22
  Speaker 4: But I learned the exact details and exact terminology and
• 30:26
  Speaker 4: the exact ways to go about getting a loan or
• 30:29
  Speaker 4: starting to invest me a pool, Like I know how
• 30:31
  Speaker 4: to do all that, but I learned the technical way.
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: And I thought that you uh, you invested in a network?
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: Was the moovar or network?
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: What is that?
• 30:42
  Speaker 4: That's something like one of my friends and stuff to
• 30:44
  Speaker 4: create it, and I just invested with them.
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: I'm with everybody trying shit. You know what I'm saying.
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: How many investments you got right now? I know you're
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: own a lot of property.
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: I can't even tell you. I try to invest more
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: than that, speen. You know what I'm saying. That's what
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: I be on.
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: That's what I mean.
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: Like if they say, when you talk about having a
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: long music career, do you really need to have a
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: long music career?
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: Have you to do it right?
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: Okay? Yeah?
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: Nah? I know people who live way better than our
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: most musicians.
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, you sh do you want
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: to have a long music career?
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: Now? My goal?
• 31:20
  Speaker 4: Your goal always to be Michael Jackson, go out till
• 31:23
  Speaker 4: you die, you know what I'm saying. But I for
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: the life, expect to see other rap career and stuff.
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: I always know it ain't that long for me. You
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying.
• 31:32
  Speaker 4: I don't even think I wanted to be that long
• 31:34
  Speaker 4: unless I was like Michael Jackson, though, you know what
• 31:36
  Speaker 4: I'm saying. Why it's like you just got to do
• 31:39
  Speaker 4: your shit.
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying about About five years ago,
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: you said your ultimate goal is to make sure your
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: son and any other kids didn't have to grow up
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: the way.
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: You grew up. Do you believe you met that goal already.
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: Here and now?
• 31:51
  Speaker 4: Because we're still growing, you know what I'm saying, Still
• 31:53
  Speaker 4: every day cycle should I be saying? And should I
• 31:56
  Speaker 4: be on? Be on some twenty years from that shit?
• 31:59
  Speaker 4: Not like coming back into years and ask me. It's
• 32:01
  Speaker 4: like it's gonna take twenty years this ship.
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: And I know you are a private person, but when
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: you got people around you close to you, like the
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: mother of your child, She's a public figure. A lot
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: of times parts of your life come online because of her.
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: Does that ever bother you?
• 32:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and be a part of like you know, I
• 32:20
  Speaker 4: take it good with it bad and ship. You know
• 32:22
  Speaker 4: what I'm saying, Like we don't really be now you
• 32:24
  Speaker 4: can do it about it.
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: I don't try to put you much energy into it.
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: Then to pish you off when you see the internet
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: like the end that be making comments about your children.
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. But I can't go ahead
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: and come in on every coming though, you know what
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: I'm saying. I just had to do what I gotta
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: do behind the scenes. You know what I'm saying.
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: And what is that? What does that look like? Behind
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: the scenes?
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: Like telling them like, man, stop posting my family all
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: the time, and I.
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: Say ship like that, okay, this talk to my children
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: really because my children old enough to come ahead and
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: sit you know what I'm saying, So I talk to them,
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: M what.
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: Do you do you want for yourself?
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: In twenty twenty five and this WAM album drops, what
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: do you hope it does?
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to drop Wham album.
• 33:07
  Speaker 4: Then a couple more months the album, then I got
• 33:10
  Speaker 4: like two other situations lined up. I got my whole
• 33:13
  Speaker 4: twenty twenty five prepared playing out.
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: Though so so being away these past couple of years,
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: you just you knew what you wanted to do when
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: you came back.
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: For sure, I just knew I had knew the point
• 33:23
  Speaker 4: I needed to get to to do what I needed
• 33:25
  Speaker 4: to do.
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: WAM is WAM gonna be like the Discreet album? Or
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: is just gonna be this good music?
• 33:32
  Speaker 4: It's like, I don't know the Street album and the
• 33:34
  Speaker 4: Street saying the same, you know what I'm saying. I
• 33:37
  Speaker 4: just like I'm one like real music and like street music,
• 33:42
  Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying.
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: Because the Screech they changed, you know what I'm saying.
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: How does Atlanta feel now like when you see things
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: like you know what happened.
• 33:50
  Speaker 4: With Dog or Yeah, that are totally different from what
• 33:53
  Speaker 4: they he saying, dramastic change, you know what I'm saying.
• 33:59
  Speaker 4: But I am thirty now, you know what I'm saying.
• 34:02
  Speaker 4: It's our generation nice, a whole new generation.
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: Do you even still like being there? Because it was weird? Right,
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: It was a weird period. When Thug went away.
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: It felt like they was trying to put targets on
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: everybody like they was opening bad happened to you.
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: That's what that's that's like the narrative, that's what that
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: what that's what the fuck you're mentioned of, you know
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Imagine not doing nothing. You know you
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: don't do nothing, but its just that's the type of
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: shit you got to see and the ship you got
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: to live through that shit. It really fucked you up
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: and strong.
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: And you have a wonder like why y'all, why why
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: do y'all want something that?
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: I mean, I just understand people. You know what I'm saying.
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: I know it just this shit come with a territory.
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: So does never make you just want to get the
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: money and just disappeared it.
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: All the way out the way they had a thousand percent?
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: Do you do you think shit like when they see
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: pictures like Michael Rubin and you know he's a friendly dude,
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: you like the hug and shit like that when they
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: see you hugged Michael Ruben hugging you, you think.
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: That Michael, like, we were never hugging me. You know
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I was tapping coolsman up and might
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: happy to see me. He ran over there. We started
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: like wrestling, like touching it and that picture like like Mike,
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: one of my real good friends, were in the party
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: with God damn, two three hundred people. It's now weird.
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: It could go on all these people in mix.
• 35:18
  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. But I ain't gonna get
• 35:20
  Speaker 4: on the internet and go back and forth like I
• 35:25
  Speaker 4: told him, Man, that's a crazy looking picture.
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: But what it is, so when you see stuff like that,
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: you don't even want to comment. You just like let
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: people talk.
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: I ain't trying to exprame my point and all that,
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: and you look like you're lying. I ain't with all that.
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, what's the best investment he
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: put you on?
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: Because when I spoke to them one time and he
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: said this publicly, he gave me the like the largest
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: investment he ever got, a borrowy he got back in
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: his life.
• 35:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah, we don't really got nobody else's gonna give us
• 35:57
  Speaker 4: them time investments, you know what I'm saying.
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: You know, like people will.
• 36:02
  Speaker 4: Be like, well, you know, I ain't with the white
• 36:03
  Speaker 4: boys and all that, but well the black man that
• 36:06
  Speaker 4: who's gonna help a nigga out?
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: And you know colored thing me is like, this shit
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: be for us. You know what I'm saying, I don't
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: even know white people. Anything I learned I'm gonna help.
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: I don'tly get better than my people. You know what
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: I'm saying, No matter where I learned it from or
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: where I gotta get it from. You know what I'm saying.
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: And that and the fact that might actually understand it,
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: that's gonna make us have a bun. You know what
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: I'm saying.
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: He give you the information for free, free just because
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: you fuck with you.
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: Just simple simple shit. They think niggas already know. We
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: don't even be knowing that ship though.
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, what's what's what's your end goal?
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: Don't got an endgo never stop?
• 36:45
  Speaker 4: And I might got endgoals, but the majority of it
• 36:49
  Speaker 4: is never stop. Some mighty got an endo with this,
• 36:51
  Speaker 4: So I ain't go with this, but I'm never gonna stop.
• 36:54
  Speaker 4: Like just end hear and keep going somewhere else. You
• 36:56
  Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, You.
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: Mean, just never stop as far as just building business,
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: just whatever.
• 37:02
  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, Whatever is gonna be, it's
• 37:04
  Speaker 4: gonna be farming. I'm gonna be doing it every day.
• 37:06
  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, like, just never stop.
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: Did you imagine your life at thirty, like when you
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: when you were younger and you was like in the
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: streets gambling like the little baby that the old dad.
• 37:15
  Speaker 4: You can't we can't even you know, you know one
• 37:16
  Speaker 4: day I'm gonna be thirty. But you can't imagine because
• 37:18
  Speaker 4: you don't really know what it is. It's like shit,
• 37:21
  Speaker 4: you gotta go through. But like far as saying like
• 37:23
  Speaker 4: I don't wanna be thirty one day like here, yeah.
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: So you okay, that's good. So you never saw yourself
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: not not seeing thirty. Nah, okay, because you know you
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: got some people.
• 37:32
  Speaker 4: My plan I always been to be here. Ship you
• 37:35
  Speaker 4: ain't trying to do nothing out of ordinary not.
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: Be here, especially now that you got kids.
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: You want you want to kids for all time now.
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you want to see your grandkids everything.
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah.
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: So Dominique albums that gonna drop the summer.
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: Maybe like three four months after, well.
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: Is it done?
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: Already done? But you know, like you're still in the
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: recording process.
• 38:00
  Speaker 4: I'm saying, if I had it, if I wanted to
• 38:01
  Speaker 4: drop to them today, I could you know what I mean,
• 38:04
  Speaker 4: in the midst of it, the way I'm being, I
• 38:07
  Speaker 4: still gonna like work on little shit and some trick.
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: Does it feel like you're able to be more vulnerable
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: in your music or are or on interviews or do
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: you feel like you might write a book or whether
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: the documentary like what it what? What do you think
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: makes you be able to express yourself the most?
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: Right now?
• 38:24
  Speaker 4: It's just me forcing myself to express myself. They can't
• 38:27
  Speaker 4: I say anything you say, but I just ain't gonna
• 38:30
  Speaker 4: do it like now, I just like just answer it,
• 38:33
  Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, Like, try to make it
• 38:35
  Speaker 4: more fun, giving people a different insight on you, and shit.
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: I just feel like that's your disposition though, like you've
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: always been. You always been like that, Like I remember
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: the first time when people brought you to Breakfast club
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: years ago. You just always move like that. So it's
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: so so forcing you to do it. I don't know
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: if that's.
• 38:52
  Speaker 4: Possible, and nobody can't force me to do it. Just
• 38:56
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna be gradually, do you know what I'm saying.
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: So when they come to you and say, man, you
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: gotta make this kind of song, you gotta make that
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: kind of song.
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: Nobody never came here and nothing like that, or.
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: This is it's just you.
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: You gotta make this kind of sith. I don't got that.
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: I ain't never had that.
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: So if you feel it, then you'll you'll go out
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: there and do it. That's it, that's it.
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: You have been affirming for me.
• 39:19
  Speaker 4: I don't got a ten person camp who build a song,
• 39:21
  Speaker 4: and this is it.
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: It's just been like authentic for me.
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Well, man, baby, keep doing
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: your thing. Brother, you know, appreciate hoo harder than me.
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: This is like the fourth fourth tape in that series, right, yeah,
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: so just the last one.
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: It's the last one.
• 39:39
  Speaker 4: Nah, you know, it's just something that's there or I'm saying,
• 39:44
  Speaker 4: absolutely sure you brother, thank you yourself.