Latest / The Inner Wealth Podcast / Ep150. Mike and Angie Kitko Discuss the Balancing Act of Marriage and Entrepreneurship.
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- 0:02Speaker 1: Do you ever wake up feeling like there's something missing in your life?
- 0:07Speaker 1: Do you ever feel the need to escape your business?
- 0:09Speaker 1: Are you running your life or is your life running you?
- 0:12Speaker 1: I'm Mike Kitko and I'll help you design and create a life so authentic and aligned with who you really are that you'll get excited just to wake up.
- 0:19Speaker 1: I'll help you create real wealth, success and freedom from the inside out.
- 0:23Speaker 1: Welcome to the Inner Wealth Podcast, where we learn and choose to live inspired each and every day.
- 0:35Speaker 1: High five episode 150.
- 0:37Speaker 1: Hey, so on episode 100, we jammed.
- 0:42Speaker 1: If you haven't listened to episode 100, go back and take a listen to episode 100.
- 0:47Speaker 1: It was really cool.
- 0:48Speaker 1: And today we're in our studio, our home studio, basement studio.
- 0:52Speaker 1: So we actually didn't go to a podcast recording studio to do it all professionally.
- 0:58Speaker 1: We just wanted to come down here in our basement studio and jam.
- 1:00Speaker 1: And the life that I live I'll talk about that.
- 1:06Speaker 1: The life that I live is I, um, I spend a lot of time just like creating in my mind, creating content, and when inspiration hits, I open the bed, the basement door and walk down here and record an episode, or record some content or something, and and and.
- 1:22Speaker 1: Today.
- 1:22Speaker 1: That's that's.
- 1:23Speaker 1: We want to do that more often.
- 1:24Speaker 1: We don't have this rigorous podcast set up.
- 1:28Speaker 1: We'll do something more professional.
- 1:29Speaker 2: We have cats screaming to get in the basement.
- 1:31Speaker 2: We have dogs laying at the top of the stairs.
- 1:38Speaker 1: But we literally just wanted to come down here and jam for episode 150.
- 1:41Speaker 1: So in episode 100, my wife and I Angie obviously her, that's me we jammed your wife, who lives with you, my wife who lives with me, who's really a critical part of my life we jammed at the studio and we just wanted to come on here for episode 150 and do it again.
- 1:57Speaker 1: And we actually want to do this more regularly and we're looking for the time and place and the content to do that.
- 2:06Speaker 1: But today I just wanted to bring Angie, we wanted to get on here and jam and talk a little bit about our relationship.
- 2:12Speaker 1: And what's been coming up lately is especially in the Business Freedom Academy.
- 2:18Speaker 1: It's how do you run a business with your spouse?
- 2:20Speaker 1: So we're going to talk about that a little bit, but we're going to talk about so much more because I think one of the hardest things to do in the world and one of the most challenging things to do in the world is to be an entrepreneur.
- 2:32Speaker 1: Yes, the next.
- 2:39Speaker 2: The next harder thing the partner of an entrepreneur, the significant other of an entrepreneur, and watching them flop like a fish sometimes and soar like a bird at others.
- 2:50Speaker 2: But man, the fish flopping stage is rough.
- 2:54Speaker 1: It is rough, but there's only one more thing more challenging than being the spouse of an entrepreneur, and that's running a business with your spouse.
- 3:03Speaker 1: So if you think that life creates marital spouts, holy shit.
- 3:08Speaker 1: When you're running a business together, you should see the kind of spouts that pop up from time to time.
- 3:13Speaker 1: But I didn't tell Angie.
- 3:16Speaker 1: I have a little bit of a game plan for what we're going to do today, and we'll talk a little bit about the running a business with your spouse.
- 3:23Speaker 2: And he has told me nothing about what we're talking about.
- 3:25Speaker 2: He said Heard nothing.
- 3:26Speaker 2: He literally said I'm going to put you on the spot.
- 3:30Speaker 1: Absolutely and so and what I mean by that is Will this be causing marital conflict?
- 3:35Speaker 1: It probably will.
- 3:36Speaker 1: It probably will.
- 3:37Speaker 1: But I got a game plan and what I want in this episode is for people to get to know you more and also for people to get to know me more, but at the same time, I don't want to talk about me and I'm not going to let you talk about you.
- 3:55Speaker 1: Okay, so we're going to do this thing in a really, really cool way.
- 3:58Speaker 1: You ready to roll?
- 3:58Speaker 1: Certainly, here's what we're going to do, and I'll give you time to prepare.
- 4:04Speaker 1: I want you to explain to them our listeners all about me.
- 4:11Speaker 1: And hold on, what's a day in the life, hold on a second what is a day in the life of living with Mike Kikto?
- 4:23Speaker 1: What does it look like?
- 4:24Speaker 1: You can start in the morning and go all the way, but, you know, talk about the choices, behaviors, likes, dislikes, do's, don't do's, and I'm going to do the same thing.
- 4:37Speaker 2: I feel like this deserves a stage with a theatrical presentation of reenactment a stage with a theatrical presentation of reenactment, yeah, and we're.
- 4:48Speaker 1: So we're going to talk about um, because that's that's a a big part of who angie is and what she does is.
- 4:52Speaker 1: She wants to always be on this stage reenacting shit.
- 4:55Speaker 1: So there's a dramatic and a sense of drama and some flair in her.
- 5:00Speaker 1: Then that's what I want to talk about.
- 5:02Speaker 1: So, look, let's just, let's just jam like what and I'll go, I'll go.
- 5:07Speaker 1: Second, what is a day in the life of living with mike kitko, like, like it?
- 5:13Speaker 2: they, they know me from hearing my voice, but let's, let's really unpack who we are as human beings so jokingly, of course, I, I I want to say a day in the life of living like Mike Kitko is pretty boring.
- 5:25Speaker 2: It's pretty damn boring.
- 5:27Speaker 2: But that's the cool thing is, we balance each other out.
- 5:30Speaker 2: So Mike Kitko wakes up very, very early.
- 5:36Speaker 2: Typically we have two dogs and two cats.
- 5:39Speaker 2: Wes Finn are our dogs and Latte and Nova are our cats.
- 5:43Speaker 2: Our dogs wear diapers so they get pretty antsy in the mornings.
- 5:47Speaker 2: So mike is the first one up out of bed and, uh, very hyper he's, he's, he's hits the ground running.
- 5:57Speaker 2: First thing.
- 5:58Speaker 2: I'm a little bit slower in the morning, so I'll wake up.
- 6:00Speaker 2: I'll talk about you, yes, well, right, but this is an important piece of this.
- 6:02Speaker 2: I'm slower'll wake up.
- 6:03Speaker 2: I'll talk about you.
- 6:03Speaker 2: Yes, well, right, but this is an important piece of this I'm slower to wake up in the morning and I'll come downstairs.
- 6:09Speaker 2: And he's our business partner, cara Dossi, she's she's coined the phrase Mike Monking, so he just he sits in silence and just sit.
- 6:21Speaker 2: So if it's, if it's wintertime, he's sitting in.
- 6:23Speaker 2: We have a beautiful sitting room in the front of the house, so I'll come downstairs and he'll be sitting on the couch doing some sort of he'll have his AirPods in, reflecting on something, listening to an audio book or meditating, all the animals surrounding him, and it's adorable.
- 6:43Speaker 2: I come downstairs and they see everybody there and I can typically tell if it is, if I want to say go and say good morning to him, or if I'm just like nope, just move along, and then he's ready to go.
- 6:58Speaker 2: If he's got, if he's been a creative mood, if he has created something, oh my gosh, he will come in and the laptop will be set down in front of me.
- 7:07Speaker 2: And I know you're not awake yet, but when you're ready, when you're ready, can you read this?
- 7:09Speaker 2: Can you read this?
- 7:10Speaker 2: Can you listen to this?
- 7:10Speaker 2: Can you listen to this?
- 7:11Speaker 2: So that's, that's it, that's the majority of your day is you sit and reflect.
- 7:17Speaker 2: And the reason why I said stay during an act is because when you have, when you've had a creative spurt in the morning, or sometimes, usually when creative spurts happen, he's up at like 3 am or so.
- 7:28Speaker 2: That's typically when he's in that serious creative mode and I can tell no alarm, no alarm, yeah, and I can tell because I'll come downstairs and I'll see him antsy and he'll be kind of shaking and moving around and I know that it's coming, it's read this, listen to this, um, but yeah, or you'll have your journal and write, write, write, ponder.
- 7:53Speaker 2: This is a theatrical presentation, right, right, right, ponder, feral p, and it's adorable.
- 8:03Speaker 2: So yeah, lots of, lots of very.
- 8:05Speaker 2: I think people think we're a lot busier than we really are.
- 8:10Speaker 1: I get that all the time.
- 8:11Speaker 1: I know you're busy, but I'm not.
- 8:13Speaker 1: I don't, I don't, I don't love busyness.
- 8:15Speaker 2: Hey, we would have invited you to this, to this event, but we know you're busy.
- 8:19Speaker 2: I'm like no, I was actually in my pajamas at 7 pm.
- 8:24Speaker 1: I think sometimes people have a great misconception about who we are and our schedules and how busy we are and how much activity we do on a daily basis.
- 8:35Speaker 2: I think that the bulk of our activity is really our fitness activity.
- 8:39Speaker 2: That's our activity.
- 8:41Speaker 2: So that's that.
- 8:42Speaker 2: My KITCO is very regimented.
- 8:46Speaker 2: You're doing better with that, though You're definitely.
- 8:48Speaker 2: There's good or bad.
- 8:49Speaker 2: No, I go through, no, but allowing things to say to be okay with things not being so.
- 8:56Speaker 2: There's a great story that we tell where he's had this process for making his omelets, and it would be eggs out of the fridge, cheese out of the fridge.
- 9:05Speaker 2: Militant, very militant.
- 9:07Speaker 2: Well, one day I put the Swiss cheese back in the cabinet over the stove when I made his omelet for him, and we couldn't find the Swiss cheese for a while and then, voila, it showed up.
- 9:17Speaker 1: So the energy is not quite as regimented and structured.
- 9:20Speaker 2: Not quite, as actually is correct.
- 9:22Speaker 2: What else?
- 9:22Speaker 2: What else, that's you're, you're really poor.
- 9:30Speaker 1: How about what?
- 9:31Speaker 1: What are, what are some other things that I love you love me very, very much.
- 9:38Speaker 2: You love me, absolutely and infinitely.
- 9:39Speaker 2: You love cooking.
- 9:40Speaker 2: You love grocery shopping I do.
- 9:43Speaker 2: You love very simple man.
- 9:45Speaker 2: You love our animals.
- 9:46Speaker 2: You love our kids, although they're, you know, we're empty nest now, so the kids are not around as much.
- 9:51Speaker 2: You love meditating.
- 9:54Speaker 2: You love sitting outside.
- 9:56Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, I have never seen anyone love to sit outside so much.
- 10:00Speaker 2: And I'm not talking about hey, let's go sit outside for an hour.
- 10:03Speaker 2: I will walk out in the summer when it's 95 degrees here in St Louis Missouri, with 100% humidity, and this man is baking in the sun.
- 10:12Speaker 2: I mean shirt off, just baking.
- 10:15Speaker 1: And I tan pretty easily.
- 10:17Speaker 2: Yeah, keep ragging.
- 10:19Speaker 1: I don't really burn, but I tan really easily.
- 10:21Speaker 1: Rag some more, sir, I'm going to keep going.
- 10:24Speaker 1: As long as you are, I'm going to keep going.
- 10:30Speaker 2: That's really your loves.
- 10:31Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 10:33Speaker 2: He loves symphony music.
- 10:34Speaker 2: He loves his strings on X.
- 10:36Speaker 2: I don't want to say the robot's name, so it doesn't hurt.
- 10:39Speaker 2: You just love quiet, you love peace.
- 10:44Speaker 1: I do, I do, I cherish and get on you.
- 10:46Speaker 2: That's where.
- 10:47Speaker 2: If that's to sum you up, that is the one thing Mike Kitko loves more than anything is peace.
- 10:52Speaker 2: He's not a hustler, he's not a grinder.
- 10:56Speaker 2: Sometimes I have to push.
- 10:57Speaker 2: If I need something in the business, I have to remind him 20 times to do it, because just doing just isn't his thing.
- 11:05Speaker 1: Yeah, busyness, busyness.
- 11:07Speaker 1: No, it's not a glorified act in my mind.
- 11:10Speaker 1: No, anything else.
- 11:14Speaker 1: Mind, no, oh, anything else, no, okay, now I'm going to turn.
- 11:17Speaker 1: Now I'm going to turn the tide.
- 11:19Speaker 2: So, angie, Of course I'm going to think of something later on, because there's things I'm gay, that's okay.
- 11:24Speaker 2: Oh, you love this.
- 11:25Speaker 2: You love a war documentary.
- 11:27Speaker 2: I love war history, and that's one thing that we.
- 11:52Speaker 2: I love war history, ethos and what makes a warrior tick.
- 11:53Speaker 2: You love creating.
- 11:54Speaker 2: I mean I again another.
- 11:54Speaker 2: Another thing, another piece of this is is recognizing.
- 11:56Speaker 2: I can recognize when he is in in that zone and you know head down in his laptop and he's just going and I just know to back up and and and let him go, and then three hours later he'll emerge and got a new book written like read this.
- 12:08Speaker 1: Read this I still haven't read the one from the other day, yet right right here, read this read this.
- 12:12Speaker 2: I still haven't read the one from the other day yet right, right here.
- 12:15Speaker 1: Read this, let's constantly read this.
- 12:17Speaker 1: We, when, when our our younger daughter, megan was she was probably six, seven, eight years old, yeah, I was in oregon she started doing this thing where it was like finger crocheting finger we called it finger weaving, but it was like finger crocheting finger we called it finger weaving, but it was like finger crocheting and she had a ball of yarn and and she just always needed somebody to hold the ball of yarn and like no matter what.
- 12:39Speaker 1: There was this stretch of time where she was finger weaving all the time and it was just like we were Lake Billy Chinook.
- 12:45Speaker 2: I remember we were camping at Lake Billy Chinook in Oregon.
- 12:48Speaker 1: You couldn't get away from it.
- 12:48Speaker 1: She said snook in oregon.
- 12:52Speaker 1: You couldn't get away from it.
- 12:53Speaker 1: She said here, hold this.
- 12:54Speaker 1: So we made a song up.
- 12:55Speaker 1: So that's that was the whole week for us, and and that's what it feels like with content creation, like where you know this, read this, read this, listen to this.
- 13:04Speaker 1: Have you listened to the last podcast you like?
- 13:06Speaker 2: no, my whole life is a mike kit co podcast so.
- 13:12Speaker 1: So, to sum it up, fitness is big yeah for me oh, he loves running.
- 13:16Speaker 2: Yeah, he loves running and weightlifting.
- 13:18Speaker 2: Those are, those are his big my jam.
- 13:21Speaker 1: Who do I do those with?
- 13:22Speaker 2: by yourself, by myself.
- 13:23Speaker 2: Yep, he's a loony.
- 13:25Speaker 2: He's a loony cat.
- 13:27Speaker 2: So we have a little phrase in our house I'm not a loony cat like this is.
- 13:30Speaker 2: This is why I don't do.
- 13:31Speaker 2: I don't like to do things alone.
- 13:33Speaker 2: I don't like to talk to a computer screen alone.
- 13:36Speaker 2: I don't know how he sits here and stares at this computer.
- 13:38Speaker 2: I just talks for an hour.
- 13:40Speaker 2: I get very awkward doing that, but I'm not a lonely cat.
- 13:44Speaker 2: He's a lonely cat Other than me yeah, other than me and his best friend, brian Schroeder, like that's it.
- 13:49Speaker 1: Yeah, I love spending time with the few people that I cherish and I value the most, and I love serving everybody else yeah, but when it comes to spending time, there's very few people that I really actually want to spend a lot of time with.
- 14:02Speaker 1: I do want to serve and help a lot of people and I do want to empower and inspire and lift up other people, but my energy, my time is very, very valuable to me and I crave peace above everything else.
- 14:18Speaker 1: If something comes between me and my peace, it's going to go.
- 14:20Speaker 2: But what's really cool, though is I'll see there'll be days where you can kind of see your energy is a little bit lower than normal, but a student or a potential student will call and have something to work through, and I just literally he just goes right into that, that zone and it's really cool to watch because you can tell that, you can tell you love what you do.
- 14:39Speaker 1: Yeah, I do, I do.
- 14:40Speaker 1: So I'm going to turn it now.
- 14:41Speaker 1: I'm going to turn it If something else pops up, you can.
- 14:44Speaker 1: You can feel free to share, but I'm going to turn.
- 14:47Speaker 1: I'm going to turn the, the, the, the, the, I guess, I don't know.
- 14:50Speaker 1: Turn, not turn the page, but turn the microphone and on on Angie.
- 14:55Speaker 1: Angie wakes up somewhere between six and seven.
- 15:00Speaker 1: Most days.
- 15:01Speaker 1: We don't use an alarm clock, we don't have alarm clocks, so and I mean we have them on our phone, but we don't use them Angie wakes up six to seven.
- 15:09Speaker 1: It takes her a really long time to really wake up, and what I mean by that is you probably don't want to speak to Angie for better.
- 15:17Speaker 2: But not in the end of my call the other.
- 15:20Speaker 1: She's not angry, she's not grumpy, she's not she's.
- 15:26Speaker 1: There's nothing wrong.
- 15:27Speaker 1: It's just there's a certain amount of fog that that's present first thing in the morning and she's just.
- 15:33Speaker 1: She just has a rise time to get herself, to collect herself and get herself.
- 15:40Speaker 2: I dreamed very, very heavily and very.
- 15:43Speaker 2: You would think that I took acid every day.
- 15:49Speaker 1: She tells me about some of the dreams she has and it's like how much acid are you taking?
- 15:53Speaker 1: Because they're crazy, they could be about anything and spiders and the little mermaid and the celery stalks.
- 16:05Speaker 1: We're walking through the forest with our house Whatever, it's just weirdest, weirdest things, aliens, but there are no drugs.
- 16:11Speaker 1: With our house, I mean just whatever.
- 16:12Speaker 1: It's just weirdest, weirdest things, aliens and it, but there there are no drugs.
- 16:16Speaker 1: But you know, I don't, I don't really dream.
- 16:19Speaker 1: I I'm sure I dream, but I don't recall dreams very often.
- 16:22Speaker 1: But she recalls all of them and it's like that first hour or so of the morning is her really just collecting herself and and we're going to talk after, after, we, we, you know, we get, we, we share, we're going to put these things together a little bit to to talk about the journey.
- 16:37Speaker 1: Um, she, she takes a while and and I am a morning person, I am, I am up when my eyes open, I am up and I am, I am in action.
- 16:46Speaker 1: It's like I don't know if it was the Marine Corps that trained me or what it was, but when the eyes open, it's like we're ready to roll.
- 16:54Speaker 1: I'm ready to roll and it's almost instantaneous and I give it action and I have no problems getting into full momentum.
- 17:02Speaker 1: And it takes Angie a little longer arise time.
- 17:05Speaker 1: She'll walk downstairs slowly, intentionally slowly, trying not to fall, because she falls a lot and she hits her head.
- 17:15Speaker 1: She used to hit her head a lot, so now we have to be careful and I'm surprised we don't have a helmet on her, because she's fallen so many times and gotten so many concussions.
- 17:23Speaker 1: But she comes downstairs Usually she'll sit for a little bit before she has her first cup of coffee.
- 17:30Speaker 1: Typically she pounds some water first thing, has a cup of coffee and probably in.
- 17:37Speaker 1: And I usually don't give her that long, I'm not that patient, but typically after an hour, hour and a half you can see that she's.
- 17:43Speaker 1: You know, she's kind of in full motion and we'll sit at the kitchen table.
- 17:48Speaker 1: Sometimes, especially during the winter, we'll sit and we'll just talk about what do you have planned for the day?
- 17:55Speaker 1: Angie asks me that question every day, religiously what's your plan for the day?
- 18:04Speaker 1: And sometimes the answer is I have no plan, sometimes it's I've got these three meetings, sometimes it's I mean, I'm making it up on the fly.
- 18:09Speaker 1: But Angie uses a paper calendar to keep track of her day where I use my phone.
- 18:15Speaker 1: So there's that difference.
- 18:17Speaker 1: But you know, when I say what would your day look like, you know she'll open her calendar and she'll start reading off the.
- 18:24Speaker 1: You know their plans for the day or you know what she intends to do.
- 18:26Speaker 1: You know what what she intends to do.
- 18:29Speaker 1: And but one thing that's always there and this is this has been new over the last eight years is is the, the health, the, the, the prioritization of health and health activity in um exercise.
- 18:43Speaker 1: Angie loves F45, going to F45.
- 18:47Speaker 1: It's a fitness studio and they do some.
- 18:49Speaker 1: They do some, some muscle work, um, a little bit of cardio, it sounds like, but a lot of muscle work and a lot of intensity work.
- 18:55Speaker 1: So Angie's gotten a lot stronger from F45, but we also have a Peloton.
- 19:00Speaker 1: So on days where there's no F45 classes that she's interested in, she'll go into our room upstairs and jump on the Peloton.
- 19:09Speaker 1: So she loves that and I can hear her in there rocking out to hip hop and you know it's funny Powered by Wu-Tang, powered by Wu-Tang.
- 19:19Speaker 1: Angie loves hip hop, she loves hip hop.
- 19:23Speaker 1: She loves jazz.
- 19:24Speaker 1: She loves a lot of jazz.
- 19:28Speaker 1: She loves going to jazz clubs.
- 19:29Speaker 1: We love, we love.
- 19:31Speaker 1: No, I don't loves going to jazz clubs.
- 19:32Speaker 1: We love, we love.
- 19:32Speaker 1: I know I don't love going to jazz clubs.
- 19:33Speaker 1: I love going to jazz clubs with my wife because my wife loves going to jazz clubs and I get to see how much she loves being there.
- 19:40Speaker 2: Oh, I was going through the day, I didn't realize we were talking about that.
- 19:43Speaker 1: Okay, I'm just, I'm just telling everybody what you love.
- 19:47Speaker 1: So you, where Angie said I love classical music and if it's up to me I'm going to put classical music on and just kind of have a peaceful environment.
- 19:54Speaker 1: Angie wants to hear the most taeonic jazz that you could ever imagine.
- 19:58Speaker 1: She loves just things that are just not linear and not predictable and they're just all over the place.
- 20:06Speaker 1: So jazz usually she'll put on Dave Rubeck, uh, jazz radio on on the, uh on the robot.
- 20:13Speaker 1: We won't say cause there's one right there, um, on the on the robot, and uh, and we listened to, uh, we listened to jazz in the morning.
- 20:20Speaker 1: But we'll have a couple cups of coffee and then Angie will go upstairs, get changed into it at 45 or jump on the Peloton and then I think the most critical aspect for everyone to understand about Angie is Angie is a super social human being and it used to be 100% of the time she needed to be with people all the time, and over time that's gone down and there's been more balance in your life, but you don't go very long without some social activity.
- 20:54Speaker 1: We just had a friend over today.
- 20:56Speaker 1: You just had a friend over and she was just here and you two were just jamming and talking about money and talking about business and talking about life and talking about health and things like that.
- 21:05Speaker 1: But Angie is very, very intentional about making sure that she has some socialization in her life, because if she left it up to me, there would be no socialization.
- 21:17Speaker 1: But she's very intentional about making sure that she's attending some lunches with some of our clients sometimes, or having coffee dates with her friends, with her girlfriends, calling people about networking or speaking engagements.
- 21:35Speaker 1: Angie Angie's always on the lookout for, uh, for speaking engagements.
- 21:39Speaker 1: For me, um is she basically runs our business.
- 21:43Speaker 1: So, um, when, when we, when I, when she opens up her laptop, she's really looking for in, you know, on a daily basis, looking to get an overall picture and an overall view of what our business looks like, because it is our source, it's our source of income and it is our lifestyle.
- 21:58Speaker 1: So we have created a lifestyle business that allows us to do business wherever we want.
- 22:02Speaker 1: And I think that leads to another thing is you didn't say this and it's interesting Angie loves to travel.
- 22:08Speaker 2: But I was.
- 22:09Speaker 2: I thought we were doing a day in the life of my God.
- 22:11Speaker 2: Angie loves to travel.
- 22:12Speaker 1: But I thought we were doing a day in the life of my guy and I said well, what do you love?
- 22:14Speaker 1: Angie loves to travel and she loves to plan travel.
- 22:18Speaker 1: She loves to plan travel and it blows my mind how much Angie loves to research all of these trips.
- 22:35Speaker 1: But when there's a trip that's coming up, you can see her excitement to look for Airbnbs, to look for airline tickets, to get great deals and have great options on airline tickets.
- 22:45Speaker 1: And we run all of our expenses through the credit cards where we get miles.
- 22:50Speaker 1: So basically we have companion Companion pass forever Because we travel so much, but we basically don't.
- 22:57Speaker 1: We don't often travel by ourselves for leisure.
- 23:01Speaker 1: Typically, there's some business built in Every once in a while we do.
- 23:04Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 23:05Speaker 1: But there's a lot of business built in with-.
- 23:07Speaker 2: That's intentional.
- 23:08Speaker 1: It is very intentional.
- 23:09Speaker 1: So we pride ourselves, and when we set a vision a couple of years ago, eight years ago, for what we want our business to look like, we wanted business to merge with life.
- 23:20Speaker 1: We didn't want to need to escape our business as we lived our life.
- 23:23Speaker 1: We didn't want to.
- 23:23Speaker 1: I didn't want an on off switch for the business, I just wanted to be, enjoy the business so much that I never needed to turn it off and I never needed to escape it, and that's the life that we've built.
- 23:34Speaker 1: Sure is, it is.
- 23:35Speaker 1: And so Angie her loves let's see, she calls it I'm going to try to remember she calls it her dress, the way she dresses on a daily basis.
- 23:56Speaker 1: We're going to call it lazy luxury.
- 23:59Speaker 1: So Angie wears really high-end yoga pants and fitness attire and clothing on a daily basis Lazy luxury.
- 24:06Speaker 1: Her outfit is not cheap and it doesn't look like it's like you know anything off the hook.
- 24:12Speaker 1: But Angie loves nice things, angie loves quality things, and it's not just.
- 24:19Speaker 1: I think there is, there is an element of, of wanting to not flaunt.
- 24:25Speaker 1: Flaunt's not a good word, but to your appearance matters to you very much.
- 24:30Speaker 1: Oh, absolutely yeah, and I don't think it's not.
- 24:33Speaker 1: It's not about flaunting, it's.
- 24:35Speaker 1: Angie grew up in abject poverty, and now I'm getting emotional.
- 24:38Speaker 1: Angie grew up in abject poverty where she didn't know where her next meal was coming from.
- 24:43Speaker 1: So now that we've created some wealth and some financial margin, it's like it's not a matter of showing off, but it's a matter of showing up.
- 24:50Speaker 2: Right, I.
- 24:51Speaker 2: It's not a matter of showing off, but it's a matter of showing up Right.
- 24:55Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not the label, other than my shoes.
- 24:56Speaker 2: Yeah, she's got two pairs of Louboutin and there will be a third pair, the point being is but you won't see me carrying a Louis Vuitton purse with the label splashed all over it.
- 25:06Speaker 2: That's not what-.
- 25:08Speaker 1: You don't show off, but you definitely show off and it's.
- 25:10Speaker 1: For me, it's not what you don't show off, but you definitely show up.
- 25:12Speaker 2: And it's for me, it's not for other people, it's because I want to experience that.
- 25:15Speaker 1: And Angie very much is proud of the life and the business that we've built and transcending the poverty and the abuse and sexual assault when you were a kid.
- 25:30Speaker 1: And Angie's very, very intentional to not hide the success and wealth away.
- 25:41Speaker 1: Not a matter of flaunting but it's definitely a matter of showing up and looking good in your appearance.
- 25:47Speaker 2: And I mean, there's a level of pride.
- 25:48Speaker 2: We had no running water and no electricity for an entire summer when we were living in a flock crack house, right.
- 25:54Speaker 2: So when you get to that no, not my father and stepmother, yeah, and step siblings and half sibling, but yeah, when you come from when, when, when you've transcended something like that, and there are there, there is a level there.
- 26:09Speaker 2: There are people who choose to transcend that and come out in a way to to show off, and it's a it's not for them, it's them showing to everybody else what they have.
- 26:20Speaker 2: Yeah and for me.
- 26:21Speaker 2: for me, it's I First of all, the expensive yoga pants are for you because they make my ass look really good.
- 26:27Speaker 2: Oh my God.
- 26:28Speaker 2: So that is for you.
- 26:29Speaker 2: So say thank you and you're welcome.
- 26:33Speaker 1: And you get, and you get complimented.
- 26:35Speaker 1: I do all the time.
- 26:37Speaker 1: And how many times a day does that butt get touched?
- 26:41Speaker 1: A lot, yeah, so 25 years does that butt get touched A lot?
- 26:48Speaker 1: Yeah, so, 25 years.
- 26:49Speaker 1: I will say that, uh, 25 years in, and I have not lost any of my zings for my wife, if you know what I mean.
- 26:52Speaker 1: So, if that, if it just keeps going up and the drives are crazy sometimes.
- 26:57Speaker 1: So, um, yeah, uh, but my wife loves nice things, she loves going nice places, she loves experiencing nice things.
- 27:06Speaker 1: Um, we used to, uh, we, we used to, whenever we were going to experience something, or whenever we're going to buy something, we, we used to pride ourself on always trying to stay in the middle, like there was there, there's something at a high quality, something at a low quality, and we would like try to put ourselves in the middle, and that that doesn't happen anymore.
- 27:27Speaker 1: Right, we're, we're, we're edging that quality up and we just keep pushing the needle on that, and it's, it's, you know, in the mindset work that we do is you put yourself in the experience of what you want to experience and you put yourself in the high quality and the wealth, like the circumstance follows, and the wealth, the circumstance follows, and the circumstance follows.
- 27:45Speaker 1: So, when you and I'm not advocating that anybody go out and just buy, like you know, a car that you can't afford.
- 27:51Speaker 2: You almost said Mercedes Want to go, let's go.
- 27:54Speaker 2: You almost did.
- 27:54Speaker 1: I'm not advocating that you go out and buy a Lambo expecting you know, $250,000 to show up for you, dollars to show up for you.
- 28:08Speaker 1: But when you make sure you are engulfing yourself in quality circumstances, your financial thermostat naturally increases.
- 28:13Speaker 1: And as your thermostat naturally increases, then you step into Life gives you the ability to keep up with that.
- 28:20Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, we're moving that over and over again.
- 28:22Speaker 1: We carry very, very little debt and we're not real estate investors.
- 28:26Speaker 1: We've done some real estate investing.
- 28:28Speaker 1: We're surrounded by them.
- 28:29Speaker 1: We funded some real estate investment deals.
- 28:32Speaker 1: I know Angie has a passion or an interest not a passion yet, but an interest in doing some flips in real estate and to me that sounds like busyness that I don't want in my life.
- 28:42Speaker 1: But Angie's interested in that and always like looking for that next next experience to experience, that next um, that next interest, to explore that next thing that might light her soul on fire.
- 28:55Speaker 1: Where I'm a little more, I know what I love and I stay there.
- 28:59Speaker 1: Angie's like exploring what the next chapter is.
- 29:03Speaker 2: Yeah, and which which comes from so many years of being in an active addiction and being a stay at home mom and not really having a sense of purpose or who I am or who who I am, as as my, my, my value, that I contribute.
- 29:19Speaker 2: You know, I know what I do for the business, but you know, I've always wanted, well, what can I do, like what can I do to contribute, and, unfortunately, the thing that I one of the things I love the most, which was, you know, when I worked in the I worked in the restaurant industry for a long time.
- 29:32Speaker 2: That doesn't align with our lifestyle anymore.
- 29:34Speaker 2: I can't.
- 29:34Speaker 2: I can't work and be a restaurant manager or work in a restaurant and and travel two weeks out of the month, travel two weeks out of the month, which is kind of our average right now.
- 29:42Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 29:43Speaker 2: So that doesn't align with our lifestyle, and our lifestyle is more our business.
- 29:46Speaker 2: Our life is more important than that.
- 29:47Speaker 2: But yeah finding something that I can do that doesn't, and that's what's in my vision Finding other ways to contribute to our, to our network, without compromising our lifestyle.
- 29:57Speaker 1: Sure, and doing things that we love, not things that we're doing out of obligation.
- 30:06Speaker 1: If there's a sense of obligation, then we don't do it.
- 30:07Speaker 1: And again, I'm going to be careful with my words, but Angie and I have reached a point that, whether we have a lot of money or a little money, we're going to do it together.
- 30:16Speaker 1: Yes, and that's the most critical element to our relationship it's our relationship isn't based on the circumstances that we have in our life.
- 30:28Speaker 1: Our relationship is our relationship and we navigate the circumstances that appear in our life.
- 30:33Speaker 1: So this is why we've come all the way from.
- 30:35Speaker 1: My nose is running because I'm yeah.
- 30:37Speaker 1: And that's another thing about Mike he cries a lot, he's a very emotional guy, especially when I talk about the things that I love and the people that I love.
- 30:49Speaker 1: But when we met I probably I know Angie had nothing 200 credit score.
- 30:52Speaker 1: Shut up.
- 30:52Speaker 1: Give me a little bit of credit.
- 30:55Speaker 1: My A was on everything and I had around $3,000 in my bank account.
- 31:00Speaker 1: So everything that we've built've built together and, uh, and it hasn't always been easy, but everything we've built, we've built together and it's because of the um, and where we are right now is just the power of the bond, the power of of the marriage, the power of the relationship, even even in those mornings and and I think this is the this is the most difficult thing for me those mornings when it's there's some fog and there's times where, um, I know that something's off with you, just like you said something's.
- 31:29Speaker 1: That's difficult for me because I personally I don't want you to struggle in it in those ways, right, so I always try to fix it, right?
- 31:36Speaker 1: I'm a man, so I try to fix it.
- 31:37Speaker 1: I want to get in there, mix it up and understand what's happening and angie's like, just leave me the fuck alone for a little bit, just just leave me alone, give me space, time, and that's for a helper or for a partner, that's that.
- 31:50Speaker 1: Those are difficult times, but you know, we, we, we, we get to navigate that together and understand what the other needs from us at that moment, and sometimes it's just leave me alone.
- 31:59Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 32:00Speaker 2: And same same.
- 32:01Speaker 2: I mean vice versa, and, and, yeah, and, and I never want to see you struggle on that.
- 32:05Speaker 2: That's a whole other episode about the the love languages.
- 32:09Speaker 1: Yep, there you go, we will.
- 32:11Speaker 1: We talked about that a little bit, we need a whole episode on it.
- 32:14Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 32:14Speaker 1: So Angie, the social piece she's, she's driven.
- 32:20Speaker 1: I would say Angie's more competitive and driven than me.
- 32:25Speaker 1: I had an athletic background growing up, playing Little League, and I was in the Marine Corps.
- 32:33Speaker 1: There was a lot of competition in my life to drive, constantly drive.
- 32:42Speaker 1: It's kind of like I don't know.
- 32:44Speaker 1: Those days have passed, but I feel that Angie is just stepping into that, where the self-worth and the self-value is really starting.
- 32:54Speaker 1: The self-esteem is really starting to take root and take place and it's like I feel that you're ready to test the limits of what you can do.
- 33:03Speaker 1: That's what I feel that has happened over the last couple of years is, as your self-worth, self-esteem, self-value grows, so does your willingness and ability to step into new circumstances so that you can really see what's under the hood.
- 33:20Speaker 2: And I think you've only really scratched yourself.
- 33:21Speaker 2: Oh, I would say and as you're saying that, just doing that that the podcast, the interview in the Business Freedom Academy the other day, it was huge.
- 33:28Speaker 2: For me it was, it was huge, it was Just doing even this.
- 33:31Speaker 2: Really, this is big.
- 33:35Speaker 1: It's a lot of fun, mm-hmm.
- 33:36Speaker 1: So Angie is very I'm intense in teaching and coaching.
- 33:43Speaker 1: I'm intense in when I'm sharing something.
- 33:44Speaker 1: I'm intense in teaching and coaching.
- 33:45Speaker 1: I'm intense in when I'm sharing something.
- 33:46Speaker 1: I'm intense when I'm helping somebody.
- 33:48Speaker 1: I'm intense when I'm trying to give someone a nugget.
- 33:53Speaker 1: I'm intense in those moments.
- 33:55Speaker 1: Angie is typically intense at all times.
- 33:58Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's at a destructive level or whatever, but whatever.
- 34:02Speaker 1: But there's a certain fire in angie that, uh, that really doesn't shut off, except when she sleeps.
- 34:08Speaker 1: And sometimes when she sleeps, it's there because that's what, where the dreams come from.
- 34:11Speaker 1: But there's a, there's a certain intensity and there's times where I'll just say something and it's like her, her tone goes from a volume or or her, her intensity goes from a two to an eight and it just spikes and then just comes back down.
- 34:27Speaker 1: I'm like where the fuck did that come from?
- 34:29Speaker 1: That was completely unnecessary, but it's always just there and you never know when that spark is going to hit and that intensity, and it's not an attack, but it's a it could get you done.
- 34:44Speaker 1: Indiana it is.
- 34:45Speaker 1: She's going to get your attention, there's no doubt about it.
- 34:48Speaker 1: So so it's almost like for someone who craves peace all the time, those little spikes of intensity is like well, wait a minute, you just took away my peace, but you didn't.
- 34:57Speaker 2: You were just Angie Kitko?
- 34:57Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I had to ask you.
- 34:58Speaker 2: How many times did I have to ask you for the to for the?
- 35:01Speaker 2: We have an event coming up in new orleans next week and I needed him to create he's the creative director and I needed him to create a little name tag.
- 35:08Speaker 2: And I told him exactly what to do.
- 35:10Speaker 2: Florida lease just a nice florida lease for the name tag four days in a row, mike, did you get the name tag me?
- 35:16Speaker 2: Mike, did you get the name tag me?
- 35:17Speaker 2: Finally, today?
- 35:18Speaker 2: How long did it take me?
- 35:19Speaker 1: to make that oh, 15 minutes yeah, not even.
- 35:23Speaker 2: Yeah, not even.
- 35:23Speaker 1: No, not even that was an anti-kit-kit and that's why, and that's why I don't do things right away, cause when I, when I do something, it takes me five minutes.
- 35:31Speaker 1: So I'm like there's no rush for this.
- 35:33Speaker 1: I got four days.
- 35:35Speaker 1: Why would I do this now?
- 35:36Speaker 1: When I got four days?
- 35:37Speaker 1: I'm going to have it done like that, but.
- 35:39Speaker 1: But so yeah, I don.
- 35:40Speaker 1: Don't.
- 35:41Speaker 1: I don't believe there's any procrastinate, I don't procrastinate, I just don't do things until they I need to do them, because when I need to do them, I think it's done quickly.
- 35:48Speaker 1: So but, and it works for me and it always has worked for me it's just never on anybody else's mind To sprite your tasks down.
- 35:56Speaker 2: No, your tasks no.
- 35:58Speaker 1: I don't want that kind of structure Would have written that down how about this.
- 36:02Speaker 1: I don't want that kind of structure in my life, right?
- 36:05Speaker 1: I want the kind of structure in my life that I want and that's based on personal development and personal growth and finding my peace and my center and my balance every day.
- 36:13Speaker 1: That's where I want my structure and the working out right and the physicality of life.
- 36:19Speaker 1: Yeah, so here's how we're going to do this.
- 36:25Speaker 1: We're going to wrap this up or bring this thing to it to like a meeting point.
- 36:30Speaker 1: We couldn't have described two more different people.
- 36:33Speaker 1: Correct.
- 36:34Speaker 1: How the hell do we make this work?
- 36:38Speaker 2: Now you're going to make me cry.
- 36:39Speaker 1: Keep going.
- 36:41Speaker 2: Just, I love you more than anything in this entire world.
- 36:45Speaker 1: What the old way, the old Mike and Angie describe that.
- 36:52Speaker 2: The old Mike and Angie was trying to force the other person to be who they wanted them to be.
- 36:57Speaker 2: And we talked about that in episode 100, right where we talked about me trying to get you to be this person to plan these extravagant vacations and pick the dresses out and plan the fancy parties, date nights, date nights and all of these things, and you would try to force me to be who you wanted me to be.
- 37:22Speaker 2: But that goes back to why would I want the person that I love more than anything in this world to experience any sort of struggle Like why would I want to put that on you?
- 37:32Speaker 2: Right, right?
- 37:33Speaker 2: Unspoken expectations are premeditated disappointments.
- 37:36Speaker 1: Yeah, and resentments and resentments.
- 37:39Speaker 2: So that's a we.
- 37:40Speaker 2: We have just 25 years and this is drives me crazy.
- 37:44Speaker 2: People ask how we got to where we are and then I tell them and they like nope, not, that's, that's bullshit.
- 37:49Speaker 2: I'm not, I don't, I don't subscribe to that theory.
- 37:56Speaker 2: Like looking for the way how to looking every day how are you showing your love for me?
- 37:58Speaker 2: How, how are you showing it in a way that that is authentic and true to you and vice versa?
- 38:02Speaker 2: Right, instead of oh, he's not, he's not doing this, so he's not showing me love?
- 38:07Speaker 2: No, it's.
- 38:07Speaker 2: How do I?
- 38:08Speaker 2: I'm going to look for the ways you do show me love, and sometimes those are smothering, sometimes those are overwhelming, sometimes that is overbearing, but I know that that's how you're showing your love for me.
- 38:20Speaker 1: And I think for me, you know, when we go back to the love languages and Angie and I basically said the love languages as they're written, they're beneficial for you to understand your love language, but understand for us what we've learned is it's important for me to know my love language and for her to know my love language so that when I'm giving her love in that way, she recognizes that that's my way to issue love.
- 38:49Speaker 1: Yes, instead of, you need to know my love language so you can be that for me.
- 38:54Speaker 1: Correct, right.
- 38:55Speaker 1: So now I'm asking you to be somebody different, somebody that you aren't, and stretch yourself into a role that you were never genetically meant to take on making choices, beliefs, opinions, doing things that you wouldn't have naturally done.
- 39:08Speaker 1: I'm asking you to be somebody different for my benefit, so I can make me feel okay.
- 39:13Speaker 1: Yeah, the love language is for us is I have a love language.
- 39:16Speaker 1: My number one love language is touch, and that's why I touch her butt and that's why I give her hugs and that's why I don't enjoy when we walk by each other without touching.
- 39:28Speaker 1: That's really important to me, because my love language is touch.
- 39:32Speaker 1: My second love language is service.
- 39:34Speaker 1: I love cooking and I love cooking for my family and there's such a joy, there's such fulfillment when somebody in my family asks me to cook their favorite meal and I get to go out and grocery shop for them and I get to put that meal together and then I'll clean up after them and none of that's hard for me.
- 39:56Speaker 1: None of that is that's so fulfilling, because I've just taken care of my family in a way that lights me up and is authentic and true to who you are, and it's an act of service and that is my way of showing love.
- 40:10Speaker 1: Angie's love language is time.
- 40:12Speaker 1: It's time and that's why she wanted me to plan date nights and to plan events and to plan surprise parties and to go out and to do these things, because her, her number one quality of life or love language, is time.
- 40:29Speaker 1: So spending quality time together is critical to her.
- 40:32Speaker 1: And now I love cooking for the family and I'm always offering and waiting for that.
- 40:38Speaker 1: And when she's ready to connect, she puts something on the calendar.
- 40:41Speaker 1: And when she says, hey, we're going to go, you know, we're going to go to Jesse Lewis and see a show I'm like got it Awesome and is this okay?
- 40:49Speaker 1: Do I look okay?
- 40:50Speaker 1: Right, it's OK to wear this.
- 40:52Speaker 2: Is this black shirt OK to wear today?
- 40:55Speaker 1: Jazz, st Louis Lenox a theater travel going out to get you know, last night we went out to get a burger.
- 41:04Speaker 1: Angie loves cheeseburgers.
- 41:06Speaker 1: Holy crap, this girl loves cheeseburgers.
- 41:08Speaker 1: And there's one great cheeseburger in the St Charles area that we're, that we're always down there and we're regulars and we're always there and they know what we like to eat and they know what we like to drink and it's really cool.
- 41:19Speaker 1: But those are the things that we love and for me, this is the most critical part of this.
- 41:25Speaker 1: You are a completely different human being than I am, but we have these things that we love together and that's where the magic is, in those things that we love together.
- 41:35Speaker 2: And we are the best travel partners ever.
- 41:39Speaker 1: We travel easy, we travel light.
- 41:42Speaker 1: Angie picks out awesome Airbnbs so we don't have to take a lot of clothes and we have a washer and dryer, so we're carry-on people, we don't check any luggage and we take a small check bag, and we could be good for 10 days because we check into awesome Airbnbs and we just don't need a lot.
- 42:02Speaker 1: So we're very simple.
- 42:03Speaker 1: We're very different, we're very unique and we're very individual.
- 42:08Speaker 1: But there's a few things that when we come together in those activities Jesse Lewis, going to a show, going to the theater, traveling, being on vacation in our, in our service to our clients there's we're untouchable.
- 42:23Speaker 1: Oh, absolutely we're untouchable.
- 42:25Speaker 1: We're on break, yep.
- 42:26Speaker 2: And I, we, we allow, neither of us want the other to experience stress or struggle, and we don't put that on each other anymore, whereas we used to.
- 42:34Speaker 2: We used to so much and now there's no amount of pain that I ever want to cause this.
- 42:41Speaker 1: And vice versa.
- 42:42Speaker 1: I mean, why would I want the person I love the most in the world to struggle in any single way?
- 42:46Speaker 1: I wrote that on a Facebook post one time.
- 42:48Speaker 1: Even if it's for my benefit, I don't want her to struggle so that I can be okay To me.
- 42:58Speaker 1: That's a very unhealthy, selfish need.
- 43:00Speaker 1: And what did you say as well?
- 43:02Speaker 1: That's a manipulation ship.
- 43:03Speaker 1: It's not a relationship when you're trying to get somebody else to satisfy your needs and your wants.
- 43:11Speaker 2: that's a manipulation ship now, if you're stating what you need, that's different, but if you're just, if it's unspoken, then that's a manipulation ship.
- 43:18Speaker 1: Yeah we're pretty good together.
- 43:20Speaker 1: I think we're.
- 43:20Speaker 1: I think we we do a a fine job in this world and I think I still think we're just getting started.
- 43:25Speaker 1: I think you're right.
- 43:26Speaker 1: Holy crap, we got a.
- 43:28Speaker 1: We got a lot of good to do in this world.
- 43:29Speaker 1: We do.
- 43:30Speaker 1: We're pretty cool together.
- 43:31Speaker 1: The key insight that I wanted to share in this podcast and I didn't share any of this with Angie she didn't know what she was stepping into- I just said, hey, let's go jam Part of being with an entrepreneur.
- 43:44Speaker 2: I have an idea, oh shit no-transcript.
- 44:24Speaker 1: And where, back in the day, when old Mike and Angie, we tried to smash everything together and we always tried to make everything fit together, including you need to be social, because I'm social, you need to be in solitude because I'm in solitude, you need to watch these sports, because I watch these sports it was all about trying to get the other to be exactly who we were, instead of allowing them that 90% or whatever of their life where they're just an individual being themselves.
- 44:49Speaker 1: Allow them to be that, because that's what lights them up.
- 44:53Speaker 1: Then, when we come together, we we've merged these magical things so that when we're together doing those activities, we love those and like we just go full bore at the theater travel we're awesome travel partners.
- 45:07Speaker 1: So it's when, when built, when we I guess early in our lives we tried to merge our identities and we were married.
- 45:20Speaker 1: But we also tried to merge our identities to become one person and get the other person to be a snapshot.
- 45:28Speaker 1: But you know what?
- 45:29Speaker 1: There's 8 billion people on the planet.
- 45:30Speaker 1: We're all different and when we honor our uniquenesses and our own desires my desire is for peace, my desire is for silence and solitude and inspiration and creativity and teaching, and Angie has different ambition, so she allows me to be who I am and I allow her to be her and I also.
- 45:53Speaker 1: I support her and encourage her to be more of herself, and she does the same for me, and that is how we rebuilt our relationship and that's why we show up so powerfully.
- 46:04Speaker 1: Anything else you want to share?
- 46:05Speaker 1: No, no, this was fun.
- 46:07Speaker 1: It was a good episode.
- 46:08Speaker 1: You didn't know what you were walking, I did not.
- 46:10Speaker 1: You willing to do this again and before episode 200?
- 46:13Speaker 1: Of course, all right, guys, thanks for jamming with us.
- 46:22Speaker 1: We vow to do this a little more.
- 46:23Speaker 1: In our basement we're going to get a real setup so that we can do some podcast episodes where it's not one microphone, two people sitting next to them.
- 46:32Speaker 1: But yeah, we have a lot to share with the world.
- 46:38Speaker 1: If you enjoyed what you heard and you want to learn more, go to wwwinnerwealthglobalcom for more tools and resources.
- 46:46Speaker 1: You.