Latest / Healthier Together: Larimer County's Public Health Podcast / Healthy & Safe Swimming
Transcript
- 0:02Welcome to Healthier Together, Larimer County's
- 0:05public health podcast, where we come together
- 0:06for healthier lives, connected communities, and
- 0:08real conversations. From your local public health
- 0:11team, I'm your host, Tom. And I'm Joanna. Every
- 0:14May, we celebrate Healthy and Safe Swimming Week
- 0:16leading up to Memorial Day. Healthy and Safe
- 0:19Swimming Week highlights the roles of swimmers,
- 0:21caregivers, facility owners and operators, and
- 0:24public health officials in preventing disease
- 0:26outbreaks, cool chemical injuries, and drownings.
- 0:30Today, we are joined by Kate Uchitel, environmental
- 0:33health specialist here at the health department,
- 0:35here to talk about how the health department
- 0:37works to keep public pools safe and steps we
- 0:40can all take to stay safe and healthy this summer.
- 0:43Kate, thank you so much for joining us. Thank
- 0:45you for having me here. To start, can you tell
- 0:48us a bit about your role at the health department
- 0:50and the work that you do? Yes. So I'm an environmental
- 0:54health specialist lead within our water quality
- 0:56program. I'm a lead for aquatics. which include
- 1:00semi -public and public pools. And we facilitate
- 1:06inspections depending on whether a pool is operating
- 1:09year -round or seasonally. Year -round will typically
- 1:12go out for inspections twice a year. If it's
- 1:16a seasonally operating pool, we'll only go out
- 1:18once. And that is excluding follow -ups if there
- 1:20are any things that need to be taken a look at
- 1:23maybe a second time. How does public health show
- 1:26up in recreational water facilities? What are
- 1:29we concerned with when we go and inspect a facility?
- 1:33We are concerned with kind of a handful of items.
- 1:38Our goals are preventing drowning, illnesses,
- 1:41slips and falls, chemical hazards. Those are
- 1:44the big ones. We operate both as a regulator
- 1:48and we try hard to be an educator as well. That's
- 1:52primarily our focus. On site, we typically meet
- 1:55with the operator if they're available and discuss
- 1:58kind of what they're seeing, if there's any help
- 2:00that they need, and discuss what we're looking
- 2:02at and kind of how things have changed since
- 2:05the last inspection. So we are trying to really
- 2:08focus on operator education so that way they
- 2:11know the risks affiliated with the pools that
- 2:15they're operating. So what kind of facilities
- 2:17do you guys actually inspect? So we inspect any
- 2:21public or semi -public pool, which can range
- 2:25from the gyms and hotels to your community pools,
- 2:31anywhere that really has either a membership
- 2:34component or that you can kind of buy an access
- 2:38to. So really wherever you can kind of get your
- 2:43way into, excluding the... pool and you're very
- 2:46back i was gonna say it's not anybody's backyard
- 2:48that you're actually going and inspecting it's
- 2:50hey you have to have access to this through a
- 2:53membership or it's open to the public and i'm
- 2:55assuming that this does not cover like open bodies
- 2:58of water like horseshoe for the reservoir where
- 3:00it's like hey or somebody's lake yeah we don't
- 3:02have any program for natural bodies of water
- 3:05so walk me through an inspection what does it
- 3:06look like when you start and kind of all the
- 3:08way through the end i'm curious what you guys
- 3:10are looking for So right before we start, we
- 3:13always take a look at the history beforehand.
- 3:16And especially if we know, sometimes we'll go
- 3:20in with the knowledge of like, hey, we know that
- 3:22these guys have had an issue with either like
- 3:25a chemical or maybe a barrier. But we'll go in
- 3:30before we even get to the poolside. We'll take
- 3:32a look at the gates, the enclosure, making sure
- 3:35that everything is. kind of separated and that
- 3:38the gates can close and make sure that no kids
- 3:41can kind of just run on in and jump in the pool
- 3:44without really really really trying to and then
- 3:49from there we'll take a look at signage making
- 3:52sure that there's no diving signs if applicable
- 3:54how deep the water is and take a look at the
- 3:59water chemistry as well and then from there we
- 4:02will go into the pump room to take a look at
- 4:05where the chemicals are stored and also take
- 4:08a look at how the system is flowing to make sure
- 4:11that they have feeders and all the unnecessary
- 4:13equipment that we look for. Well, that sounds
- 4:16pretty comprehensive. You know, I did want to
- 4:18ask, though, it sounds like there's been some
- 4:20changes with regards to the health codes for
- 4:23these kind of facilities. My understanding is
- 4:27that that's part of the MAC, that model aquatic
- 4:29health code that we've all been talking about
- 4:31in the department. Can you tell us a little bit
- 4:32about the history of like the pool inspections
- 4:34that we've been doing and what's really changing?
- 4:36Yes. So when I first came here, there was an
- 4:41intern that did inspections of public pools before
- 4:44we even had a program. And from her research,
- 4:49it was widely found out that we needed to have
- 4:52a program. And from there, we started with the
- 4:55Colorado baths regulations that we have currently
- 5:00at the state level based on drinking regulations
- 5:03back, I think, in the 90s. So the information
- 5:07that we've been working with for the last five
- 5:09or so years has been not the most effective that
- 5:14we would look for. So in the last couple of years,
- 5:18we've been focusing on changing over to CDC's
- 5:21model aquatic health code, the MAC that you referenced.
- 5:24And we have finally included that into our very
- 5:27own regulations for Larimer County aquatic health
- 5:30regulations as of January 1st, 2026. What are
- 5:34some of the bigger changes that you see in the
- 5:36MAC that we're now starting to incorporate that
- 5:38we didn't previously? Yeah. So one of the big
- 5:41things, the biggest thing I would say is. transition
- 5:44over to a minimum chlorine level. The previous
- 5:49one was, I believe, 0 .4 pre -chlorine, and it's
- 5:542 now. So 0 .4 was based on drinking water standards,
- 6:00not the most effective for treating water -based
- 6:03diseases. Gotcha. So I am curious, and I'm sure
- 6:09some of our listeners are. Right now, we have
- 6:12retail food establishment inspection reports
- 6:15that are available online. So somebody could
- 6:17look at it and say, oh, okay, this restaurant,
- 6:19yeah, they passed. Great. Is there anything like
- 6:21that for pools? Yeah. Actually, on the very same
- 6:24page that you would look up those restaurant
- 6:27inspections, you can take a look at pool inspections
- 6:30too. There's a tab over on the side that you
- 6:33can click what program it focuses on, and you
- 6:36just switch that over to pools. And you type
- 6:39in either a pool you want to look at or if you
- 6:41just want to look at the most recent inspections.
- 6:43You can leave it blank, click the search button,
- 6:46and they'll all pop up. Gotcha. So, I mean, but
- 6:48when you walk into a pool, it's not like we,
- 6:50and this might change over time, they don't have
- 6:52like a permit that's prominently displayed like
- 6:54we do in our restaurants. Like there's nothing
- 6:56on site that somebody could go, oh, yeah, they
- 6:58passed their most recent inspection. Yes. We
- 7:00don't have anything like that at this time. One
- 7:04of the regulation requirements in the MAC and
- 7:06what we'll be looking for. is that they have
- 7:09a posted last inspection results. But that is
- 7:14something that we are still working on kind of
- 7:16internally, how they can go about hanging that
- 7:20up, whether they need to post each individual
- 7:23one or if we'll have like a QR code to make it
- 7:26easier on them for their patrons just to quickly
- 7:29look at it. What diseases are most commonly spread
- 7:33through public polls? The top one I would say
- 7:38is cryptosporidium, which is a gastrointestinal
- 7:43disease that can, well, will give you diarrhea
- 7:47and just digestive upset. It is resistant. It's
- 7:52very chlorine resistant. So you have to have
- 7:55that minimum chlorine levels for a certain amount
- 7:57of time in order to treat it. So anytime that
- 8:00there is. An incident, a diarrheal incident,
- 8:04it should be treated with high levels of disinfectant
- 8:07for X amount of time, depending on what those
- 8:09levels are. There are concerns about like E.
- 8:12coli, Giardia, swimmer's ear. Hot tubs are known
- 8:17for folliculitis, which is just a hot tub rash.
- 8:21A lot of times with those, those bacteria will
- 8:25hang out in like a biomat, essentially. And that
- 8:29kind of has to be scrubbed in addition to that
- 8:32chlorine or that disinfectant that's being treated
- 8:35as well. Are there steps that people visiting
- 8:38public pools can take to help prevent the spread
- 8:40of those diseases? Yeah. So the biggest one I
- 8:44would say it's not fun. But if you or your kiddo
- 8:49has any symptoms of illness like diarrhea or
- 8:53vomiting too, Stay out of the water for at least
- 8:5724 to 48 hours till those symptoms disappear.
- 9:01Because especially with diarrhea, it can affect
- 9:04the whole pool really quickly and it's a long
- 9:07process to treat. And then what are some common
- 9:10safety hazards associated with pools and other
- 9:13aquatic facilities that people should be aware
- 9:15of this summer? There are a handful. So one of
- 9:20the things that we're taking a look at is the
- 9:22mandarin, and it should have a grate on it. Depending
- 9:25on where it's located, it'll have to be elevated.
- 9:28But the biggest thing that we're looking for
- 9:30for the grate is making sure that it's not an
- 9:33entrapment hazard. It could potentially entrap
- 9:36somebody and drown them, potentially suction
- 9:38them in. We have had recent drownings in the
- 9:41U .S. I think there were at least two last year.
- 9:44But yeah, that's one of the things that we're
- 9:46looking at. And then preventing drownings. One
- 9:49thing to think about would just be the color
- 9:52of clothes that you're wearing to the pool. And
- 9:54you want something that contrasts the bottom
- 9:57of the pool in case there is anybody who's been
- 10:00down there for longer than they should be. So
- 10:02what steps can facility operators take to mitigate
- 10:05some of these hazards? You mentioned that there's
- 10:07the main drain. Is there anything they should
- 10:09be paying attention with regards to that? Yeah,
- 10:11so the main drain actually... is a federal regulation.
- 10:15That's something that everybody should be doing
- 10:18already, but that's based on the Virginia Graham
- 10:21Baker Act, which unfortunately took a young girl's
- 10:24life because she got sucked in and trapped and
- 10:27drowned. One of the things is that in addition
- 10:30to it being a certain type of main drain cover,
- 10:33it does have to be replaced typically every five
- 10:37to 10 years, depending on the brand, but making
- 10:40sure that you have information about that. making
- 10:43sure you're up to date on that. So that way you
- 10:45don't have that hazard. You're taking a proactive
- 10:48approach. Do you have any tips for private pool
- 10:51owners on how they can keep themselves and the
- 10:54swimmers at their pools healthy this summer?
- 10:56Yeah, I would say keep an eye out on the disinfection.
- 11:00Keep your chlorine at least at one part per million.
- 11:04And in addition to that, always keep an eye on
- 11:07your kids. Drownings can happen really quickly
- 11:10and it's... usually preventable. So where can
- 11:14listeners go to learn more about staying healthy
- 11:17and safe while swimming? So one of the things
- 11:20that we've been working on is our website. There's
- 11:23a lot of information there about our current
- 11:25regulations and the different options available.
- 11:28And so preemptive options in preventing illness
- 11:32and hazards affiliated with recreational waters.
- 11:36Another great site is the CDC at Healthy Swimming.
- 11:40The CDC is actually what put together the Model
- 11:42Aquatic Health Code, which is frequently, I think
- 11:46every few years or so, revisited. So in addition
- 11:49to looking at the MAC, you can also take a look
- 11:52at the CDC's website. There's a lot of information
- 11:54there about healthy swimming and preventing illness
- 11:57and hazards. Perfect. Kate, thank you so much
- 12:01for joining us. We really appreciate you taking
- 12:02the time. Yes. Thank you for having me here.
- 12:08Do you have a question about public health in
- 12:10Larimer County or a topic you'd like us to discuss?
- 12:13Let us know. Email us at healthiertogetheratlarimer
- 12:16.org. Thanks for listening, Larimer County. Until
- 12:20next time, stay well, stay connected, and remember,
- 12:22we really are healthier together.