Latest / Ridiculous History / Operation Gunnerside: How a Crew of Military Skiers Ruined the Nazi Bomb
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- 0:24Speaker 1: So close, so close, it is as if we are
- 0:28Speaker 1: in gliders, which will make sense in a few minutes.
- 0:31Speaker 1: We are so close to an anniversary episode today. This
- 0:36Speaker 1: episode is publishing on February twenty six, twenty nineteen, but
- 0:43Speaker 1: two days from now, if you're listening to this, the
- 0:46Speaker 1: day it comes out, we will hit the anniversary of
- 0:50Speaker 1: something called Operation gunner Side. I know you love a
- 0:54Speaker 1: good operation, Ben, I mean, who doesn't write this will
- 0:57Speaker 1: be the seventies six anniversary of Operation Gunner Side. And uh,
- 1:03Speaker 1: if you're wondering, hey, guys, what the heck is Operation
- 1:06Speaker 1: gunner Side, we're glad to tell you, of course, with
- 1:09Speaker 1: the help of our constant super producer, Casey Pegrum and
- 1:15Speaker 1: truest friend and confidante. The Golden Girls song is playing
- 1:18Speaker 1: in my head. I love that song is really good.
- 1:21Speaker 1: It's so good. It's only the This has nothing to
- 1:24Speaker 1: do with today's episode, and I'll keep the banter short.
- 1:26Speaker 1: But did you ever listen to the full version? Did
- 1:29Speaker 1: either of you guys ever listened to the full version
- 1:31Speaker 1: of the Golden Girls song? Is it just called thank
- 1:33Speaker 1: You for Being a Friend? I can't I can't remember,
- 1:36Speaker 1: but it's it's not as good. The best part is
- 1:39Speaker 1: the TV theme and if you had a party and
- 1:44Speaker 1: invited everyone, you know, it's my part. I like the end.
- 1:48Speaker 1: The card attached would say and everybody comes in, thank
- 1:52Speaker 1: you for being a you know, I say to you,
- 1:56Speaker 1: thank you for being a Ben, thank you, thank you.
- 1:59Speaker 1: You know what you're uh, You're no slouch at being
- 2:01Speaker 1: a knoll and Casey Pegram you were my favorite Casey. Well,
- 2:05Speaker 1: thank you, Ben. Okay, I didn't know if you were
- 2:07Speaker 1: going to respond to that. That's a casey on the case. There,
- 2:10Speaker 1: that's a casey on the case. That's a very nice
- 2:12Speaker 1: casey on the case. Do you know who else was
- 2:15Speaker 1: being good at what they were who else? Nazis? Nazis? Yeah, Nazis. Okay,
- 2:22Speaker 1: let me let me caveat that a little bit. But
- 2:24Speaker 1: they were, they were being successful at what they were doing.
- 2:26Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. Yeah, So our story today takes
- 2:32Speaker 1: place in the nineteen forties in World War Two and
- 2:38Speaker 1: the rush to build the first nuclear weapon. And this
- 2:43Speaker 1: is something that I didn't know, that I didn't learn
- 2:44Speaker 1: until I was looking into the story with you, Ben,
- 2:47Speaker 1: is that the Germans were kind of had a head
- 2:50Speaker 1: start on the Manhattan Project, and it was actually because
- 2:53Speaker 1: of progress the Germans were making towards developing a nuclear
- 2:56Speaker 1: bomb that we got involved started doing our own version
- 3:01Speaker 1: right right, So, as early nuclear research, just nuclear research
- 3:06Speaker 1: is beginning in the United States, Germany is already moving
- 3:09Speaker 1: forward with its own energy research and atomic bomb program,
- 3:14Speaker 1: which was called Lanvine, which translates to the Uranium Club,
- 3:19Speaker 1: and that was founded as a secret program in April
- 3:22Speaker 1: of nine nine, which was just shortly after Otto Han
- 3:26Speaker 1: and Fritz Strassmann, who are to German scientists, accidentally discovered
- 3:31Speaker 1: nuclear fission, giving the Germans quite an advantage over the
- 3:36Speaker 1: United States. Right. This was December ninety eight, over Christmas
- 3:41Speaker 1: vacation when these physicists made this discovery, and it's one
- 3:45Speaker 1: of those world changing events where people in the know,
- 3:49Speaker 1: people who monitor this sort of stuff, can naturally begin
- 3:53Speaker 1: going down similar directions in terms of innovation. The Uranium
- 3:58Speaker 1: Club was led by a is thisist named Kurt Diepner,
- 4:02Speaker 1: and he had built a think tank of the top
- 4:05Speaker 1: eggheads in Germany, including Verna Heisenberg. The Americans were working
- 4:11Speaker 1: on this too, the Germans had a different program, so
- 4:14Speaker 1: they're they're trying to accomplish the same thing they want
- 4:17Speaker 1: to build, ultimately an atomic weapon. But one of the
- 4:21Speaker 1: differences that they had was their use of what they
- 4:25Speaker 1: called a moderator. And a moderator is a component of
- 4:31Speaker 1: a nuclear reactor. So nuclear actors usually have a couple
- 4:34Speaker 1: of things in common. They have a fuel source, control rods,
- 4:37Speaker 1: a moderator, coolant, and an encasement yea, and a nuclear
- 4:42Speaker 1: bomb similar to nuclear reactor is creating is thriving on
- 4:46Speaker 1: the same explosive energy, only it's just released out into
- 4:50Speaker 1: the world, as opposed to harnessed into like electric electricity
- 4:53Speaker 1: or power exactly exactly. So, a moderator is a substance
- 4:58Speaker 1: that's essentially used to slowed down the fission process, making
- 5:04Speaker 1: it more controllable or at least more efficient, right spot on.
- 5:08Speaker 1: So here's one of the big differences. In the US,
- 5:12Speaker 1: scientists are using graphite as a moderator. They're using these
- 5:16Speaker 1: graphite blocks, and they don't have cooler, they don't have radiation,
- 5:21Speaker 1: they don't have heat shielding. They're still figuring this out. Germany,
- 5:25Speaker 1: on the other hand, is using something called heavy water.
- 5:29Speaker 1: What what's it? What's heavy water? Aside from an awesome name,
- 5:32Speaker 1: for something. It's incredible, uh, and I did not know
- 5:35Speaker 1: what it was. UM. And heavy water is water that
- 5:39Speaker 1: has um a an atomic or molecular rather weight of
- 5:44Speaker 1: twenty rather than eight, and that's in a m U
- 5:49Speaker 1: or atomic mass units UM. To the layman or anyone,
- 5:54Speaker 1: really heavy water would taste the same as regular water.
- 5:58Speaker 1: It would feel same on your body. You could swim
- 6:01Speaker 1: in it, just the same as you could any other
- 6:03Speaker 1: kind of regular water. But it occurs incredibly rarely in nature, right, UM.
- 6:09Speaker 1: I think it's something along the lines according to the
- 6:11Speaker 1: Smithsonian magazine, UM, it is incredibly rare in nature happening.
- 6:16Speaker 1: Something along the lines of one in a billion llcules
- 6:21Speaker 1: of water that occur naturally would be considered heavy. UM.
- 6:24Speaker 1: One giveaway that you're dealing with heavy water would be
- 6:27Speaker 1: that ice cubes made out of it would sink rather
- 6:30Speaker 1: than float because they're a little heavier. Right right. It's
- 6:34Speaker 1: it's not a clever title, right, there's trying to be euphemistic.
- 6:38Speaker 1: The water is heavy, you know, it's super descriptive. It's true, UM,
- 6:41Speaker 1: But this is the substance that the Nazis decided to
- 6:47Speaker 1: use as that what was the word been moderate? As
- 6:49Speaker 1: that moderator for splitting of the atom and slowing down
- 6:52Speaker 1: that reaction in a way that would allow them to
- 6:54Speaker 1: harness it more effectively. Um Graphite, as we know, super common,
- 6:59Speaker 1: easy to I'm buy, It's in all kinds of stuff.
- 7:02Speaker 1: Heavy water, on the other hand, you gotta make it,
- 7:05Speaker 1: and in order to make it for this research that
- 7:08Speaker 1: they were doing, the Germans had a pretty massive facility
- 7:13Speaker 1: where they did just that. Right. Oh and quick note
- 7:16Speaker 1: on heavy water. It has a larger than normal amount
- 7:20Speaker 1: of a hydrogen isotope called deuterium, which is also known
- 7:25Speaker 1: as heavy hydrogen. So it all works out. They've got
- 7:29Speaker 1: a theme, and they also have a plant where they
- 7:33Speaker 1: create this stuff, a place called their Mark, and their
- 7:38Speaker 1: mork was created in like more door. It sounds like
- 7:43Speaker 1: a very sounds like a very evil you know, sour
- 7:46Speaker 1: man Hitler esque name. Really does. Did you ever see
- 7:50Speaker 1: that Mitchell and Webb sketch where they say, are we
- 7:53Speaker 1: the batties? Of course because the skull has particular villains, right,
- 7:59Speaker 1: but they're confused about where they fit into the story.
- 8:01Speaker 1: I feel like you were going to say something that
- 8:03Speaker 1: pertained to our episode, though, so I don't I don't
- 8:06Speaker 1: want to roll over. All I was gonna know, you're
- 8:07Speaker 1: not at all been. All I was gonna say is
- 8:09Speaker 1: they got this place by invading another place. But they
- 8:12Speaker 1: actually acquired this um, this very sinister sounding plant. Uh.
- 8:17Speaker 1: It's called the vim Or Chemical Plant, and it was
- 8:20Speaker 1: in Telemark County UM in Norway, which was occupied by
- 8:25Speaker 1: the Nazis at this point in World War two, and
- 8:27Speaker 1: it became a very important strategic uh stronghold for them.
- 8:31Speaker 1: It was built like a fortress, and they were able
- 8:34Speaker 1: to use the fact that it was a chemical plant
- 8:36Speaker 1: to help aid their research and to produce this heavy water. Absolutely,
- 8:42Speaker 1: this plant was already producing heavy water through the thirties.
- 8:46Speaker 1: By January nine, it had produced more than a hundred
- 8:50Speaker 1: grahams of this substance. But after the Germans sees the plant,
- 8:55Speaker 1: they forced the workers to increase the production of heavy
- 8:58Speaker 1: water because they needed this moderate See. I did not
- 9:01Speaker 1: know that bad. I didn't know that they were already
- 9:03Speaker 1: making it there, because it's sort of a weird thing
- 9:05Speaker 1: to make, Like it's it's like, why, what what other
- 9:07Speaker 1: purpose does it serve? Chemically or in some kind of
- 9:10Speaker 1: industrial manufacturing process? You know, maybe maybe the Norwegians just
- 9:15Speaker 1: had a pet peeve about ice cubes that float. Maybe
- 9:18Speaker 1: they thought they were insolent. That seems very expensive. That's true.
- 9:22Speaker 1: That's a good point. Maybe that's what smart water is.
- 9:25Speaker 1: And maybe maybe they also added like extra electrolytes and
- 9:28Speaker 1: and all that. Yeah, yeah, well plants grave it's true. Um,
- 9:32Speaker 1: So here's the thing. This is the lynchpin in the
- 9:37Speaker 1: Nazis plan to develop this weapon. And they're pretty far
- 9:40Speaker 1: along in their research and this stuff that they have
- 9:44Speaker 1: to have a pretty sizeable manufacturing chemical plant to produce.
- 9:49Speaker 1: They need it to make the weapon that they will
- 9:52Speaker 1: it won't do without it, right right, And British intelligence
- 9:56Speaker 1: learns about this through some connections to the plant and
- 9:59Speaker 1: some connections to Norwegian domestic resistance parties. So they hear
- 10:05Speaker 1: that the Germans want to increase the production during the
- 10:08Speaker 1: summer of nineteen forty one, and they get this via
- 10:12Speaker 1: message from the Norwegian underground. There's a guy who obtains
- 10:17Speaker 1: this for the British named leaf Tron Stud and he
- 10:22Speaker 1: anonymously corresponds with the British forces, you know, to preserve
- 10:27Speaker 1: his identity, and they begin to hatch a plan. The
- 10:32Speaker 1: British say, well, let's engage in some some good old sabotage.
- 10:42Speaker 1: Sabotage itself has a very interesting etymology. What is it?
- 10:46Speaker 1: So sabotage comes from uh French? I believe casey? Is
- 10:51Speaker 1: that correct? Like sabotaire? Yeah? Yeah, that's okay. So this
- 10:56Speaker 1: is interesting. I don't know if you had heard the
- 10:58Speaker 1: etymology of sabotage were Casey. I feel like you probably have. No,
- 11:03Speaker 1: nothing's coming to mind right now. So it meant it's
- 11:07Speaker 1: always meant deliberately and maliciously destroying property. Right. The apparent
- 11:12Speaker 1: story I can't verify here is that the modern meaning
- 11:16Speaker 1: derives from strikers who allegedly had this tactic of throwing
- 11:21Speaker 1: shoes into machinery. But this is apparently not the you
- 11:25Speaker 1: know again, this is just a fun story about it.
- 11:28Speaker 1: We don't know exactly where it comes from, but it
- 11:30Speaker 1: is related to the word shoe allegedly, so like throwing
- 11:33Speaker 1: your shoe into like the gears of a machine or
- 11:36Speaker 1: something like that. That's very you know what makes me
- 11:38Speaker 1: think of like the whole like throwing a monkey wrench
- 11:40Speaker 1: into the works. Yeah, yeah, exactly, because it causes the
- 11:44Speaker 1: gears to grind to a halt. So they wanted to
- 11:48Speaker 1: They wanted to engage in some good old fashioned sabotage,
- 11:53Speaker 1: and they had a secret unit that was accomplished at
- 11:56Speaker 1: this called the Special Operations Executive or sometimes called the
- 12:00Speaker 1: Ministry of Ungentlemanly Warfare. Is that like the League of
- 12:06Speaker 1: Extraordinary Gentlemen. Yeah? Yeah, They trained people to conduct covert
- 12:14Speaker 1: sabotage missions. I love the idea of that as being ungentlemanly.
- 12:18Speaker 1: It's not like coming right to your face and doing
- 12:20Speaker 1: us doing it like under cover of night, creeping around
- 12:23Speaker 1: dirty Pool, old Man, dirty Pool, dirty Pool. They had
- 12:27Speaker 1: a Norwegian branch of the Special Operations Executive and they
- 12:32Speaker 1: recruited various Norwegians who have fled to England after Germany
- 12:36Speaker 1: invaded their country in nine and they had this crazy
- 12:41Speaker 1: training regiment in Scotland. They had to train under cover
- 12:45Speaker 1: of night to climb mountains, ford rivers, camp outdoors for weeks.
- 12:50Speaker 1: These these guys are being made into rangers almost you know. Yeah,
- 12:54Speaker 1: but they're rangers with a very particular skill set, their
- 12:58Speaker 1: ski rangers. Yes, yes, tell us a little more about that. Well,
- 13:02Speaker 1: I will let me you know what. In fact, I'm
- 13:05Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna do it better better than tell you.
- 13:07Speaker 1: I'm gonna do a reading for you from a book
- 13:09Speaker 1: titled The Winter Fortress. The Epic Mission to Sabotage Hitler's
- 13:13Speaker 1: Atomic Bomb by Neil Bascomb. Missile Missile paint the pictures
- 13:16Speaker 1: to tell you exactly what these guys did. Nazi occupied
- 13:20Speaker 1: Norway in a staggered line, the nine saboteurs cut across
- 13:25Speaker 1: the mountain slope. Instinct more than the dim light of
- 13:28Speaker 1: the moon guided the young men. They threaded through the
- 13:32Speaker 1: stands of pine and traversed down the sharp, uneven terrain,
- 13:36Speaker 1: much of it poked with empty hollows and thick drifts
- 13:39Speaker 1: of snow. Dressed in white camouflage suits over their British
- 13:43Speaker 1: Army uniforms, the men looked like phantoms haunting the woods.
- 13:47Speaker 1: They moved as quietly as ghosts. The silence broke only
- 13:51Speaker 1: by the swoosh of their skis and the occasional slap
- 13:54Speaker 1: of a pole against an unseen branch. The warm, steady
- 13:58Speaker 1: wind that blew through the vest Fjord valley dampened even
- 14:02Speaker 1: these sounds. It was the same wind that would, eventually,
- 14:05Speaker 1: they hoped, blow their tracks away. So yeah, they did
- 14:09Speaker 1: super badass downhill skiing. Uh. In order to stealthily approach
- 14:14Speaker 1: this facility, because you see, there had actually been two
- 14:18Speaker 1: previous attempts, failed attempts to do exactly what these guys
- 14:21Speaker 1: were setting out to do on their skis. One of
- 14:24Speaker 1: them was called Operation Grouse, and then one was called
- 14:26Speaker 1: Operation Freshman, in which forty two British Allied soldiers died
- 14:31Speaker 1: um in a botched mission where they were going to
- 14:35Speaker 1: UM kind of gain entry to the facility using gliders
- 14:38Speaker 1: that had been deployed from UM planes, right, so they
- 14:42Speaker 1: had a little bit of internal tension. Bombing the plant
- 14:47Speaker 1: was the preferred tactic of the American military, but Transta
- 14:51Speaker 1: was opposed to this because if the bombs hit the
- 14:54Speaker 1: liquid ammonious storage tanks, the civilian population nearby would be
- 14:59Speaker 1: at risk. And secondly, bombing might not even destroy the
- 15:03Speaker 1: heavy water facilities because they were in the basement of
- 15:06Speaker 1: the plant under layers and layers of concrete. So they
- 15:09Speaker 1: had to actually send people in. First. They sent in Grouse,
- 15:12Speaker 1: which was a small scout team. They parachuted from a plane,
- 15:16Speaker 1: They landed in the area, and they started literally sneaking around.
- 15:21Speaker 1: After they had been there for a month in November,
- 15:24Speaker 1: Operation Freshmen launched these thirty nine British air troops carried
- 15:30Speaker 1: by two military gliders. The idea is that they would
- 15:33Speaker 1: land near the plant using the information provided by the
- 15:36Speaker 1: scouting group Grouse, and then they would attack. But the
- 15:40Speaker 1: weather was terrible, they had communication issues. One of the
- 15:44Speaker 1: gliders crashed into a mountain, the other crash landed way
- 15:48Speaker 1: off course. Everyone that was in the glider that hit
- 15:52Speaker 1: the mountain died in the crash. Some of the soldiers
- 15:55Speaker 1: in the second glider died in their crashed the worm
- 15:58Speaker 1: was off target. The others were caught executed by the Gestapo. Additionally,
- 16:02Speaker 1: German forces found a map that identified Vermorc as a
- 16:06Speaker 1: British target, but there was still some hope. The Germans
- 16:12Speaker 1: were not able to find and capture the group known
- 16:14Speaker 1: as Grouse. They had remained in the wilderness, living off
- 16:19Speaker 1: the land, hunting reindeer to survive and they were renamed Swallow.
- 16:24Speaker 1: Three months pass and the Swallow group gets word from
- 16:28Speaker 1: Britain that there are six more Norwegians who are going
- 16:32Speaker 1: to be sent to take out this plant in something
- 16:35Speaker 1: called Operation gunner Side. This was a small group of
- 16:40Speaker 1: Norwegian commandos from the Norwegian branch of the s o E.
- 16:44Speaker 1: They were gonna parachute straight to the target zone instead
- 16:47Speaker 1: of using a glider. They were going to meet up
- 16:49Speaker 1: with the Swallows and then together they were going to
- 16:52Speaker 1: raid the Vermot plants. So they jumped from a plane
- 16:56Speaker 1: while it's snowing in February eighteen forty three. They dressed
- 17:02Speaker 1: in British uniforms under their snowsuits because they thought, you know,
- 17:07Speaker 1: if we get caught, we're almost certainly going to be
- 17:10Speaker 1: tortured and then die. But we would like them to
- 17:13Speaker 1: blame the British instead of the Norwegian resistance, so that
- 17:17Speaker 1: the Germans won't kill Norwegian civilians. They survived by the
- 17:21Speaker 1: way uh They landed miles away from where they were
- 17:24Speaker 1: supposed to be. They traveled for five days and then
- 17:27Speaker 1: they connected with their friends Grouse now named Swallow, and
- 17:31Speaker 1: then they began their raid on February. That's right, Ben
- 17:36Speaker 1: So Gunner side. The Gunner Side group UM decided that
- 17:40Speaker 1: there were three ways to access the plan. They knew
- 17:43Speaker 1: they had to rely on stealth. One of them was
- 17:46Speaker 1: to come down from the mountains which overlooked the plant,
- 17:50Speaker 1: but that was covered in mine fields. And then they
- 17:52Speaker 1: also had to cross a incredibly fortified and heavily guarded
- 17:57Speaker 1: suspension bridge, and then they had to get to the
- 17:59Speaker 1: bottom where there was a gorge that led to a
- 18:02Speaker 1: railway line that they could follow alongside of UM to
- 18:06Speaker 1: get to an area that was a lot less heavily police. Yeah,
- 18:10Speaker 1: and they broke through a fence. You can see an
- 18:15Speaker 1: interview about this with a guy named Newt Heikelid in
- 18:20Speaker 1: the New York Times. Uh. They broke through a fence
- 18:23Speaker 1: and then they divided their group into a five man
- 18:26Speaker 1: cover squad a four man explosives group. The explosives guys
- 18:30Speaker 1: wanted to enter the plant through a side door, but
- 18:33Speaker 1: the door was locked, and they tried to find aside
- 18:37Speaker 1: access tunnel. Uh. But they started getting divided, call it
- 18:42Speaker 1: the fog of war. Once they got in, they started
- 18:48Speaker 1: placing explosive charges next the heavy water production cells, and
- 18:53Speaker 1: they had to UM. They had to improvise a little bit.
- 18:56Speaker 1: The explosives were supposed to have minute fuses, but they
- 19:01Speaker 1: cut them to make them thirty second fuses, so they
- 19:03Speaker 1: had thirty seconds to run away, I know. And so
- 19:08Speaker 1: after they have successfully destroyed the heavy water facility, they
- 19:13Speaker 1: flee and they say, hey, guys, bonus points, Let's try
- 19:16Speaker 1: to get out of here alive. So they hop back
- 19:18Speaker 1: on the skis and they ski toward town. They reach
- 19:23Speaker 1: a mountain plateau and they split up. They travel more
- 19:27Speaker 1: than two hundred miles the four man explosive team on
- 19:31Speaker 1: skis to Sweden, Neutral Neutral, Neutral Sweden, land of modern
- 19:38Speaker 1: furniture and meatballs and neutrality and the chocolate. Many many
- 19:44Speaker 1: things are good about Sweden. But those are the things
- 19:45Speaker 1: that come to mind for me. Um. But here's the thing.
- 19:48Speaker 1: They did not fire a single shot. They were able
- 19:51Speaker 1: to capitalize on the chaos that those explosions created and
- 19:54Speaker 1: high tail it out of there on their skis, get
- 19:57Speaker 1: his neutral Sweden, and then ultimately get back to get
- 20:01Speaker 1: back home alive. And these were men who were going
- 20:04Speaker 1: into the situation fully aware that they might not make
- 20:08Speaker 1: it out out alive. As you can tell, this is
- 20:10Speaker 1: a pretty intrepid mission. Doesn't really fall under a ridiculous
- 20:13Speaker 1: for me as much as it does totally badass. Maybe
- 20:16Speaker 1: the idea of of stealth spy types on skis is
- 20:20Speaker 1: a little funny, but man, what what what bravery these
- 20:25Speaker 1: these guys exhibited, and to to have it go so well,
- 20:28Speaker 1: it's so rare. How long does it take to ski
- 20:31Speaker 1: two hundred miles? I don't know, I don't know. Yeah,
- 20:36Speaker 1: I want the Proclaimers to do a version of their
- 20:39Speaker 1: song about this. So Operation Gunners Side was initially a success.
- 20:49Speaker 1: It did caused German forces to lose five ms of
- 20:53Speaker 1: heavy water and it knocked the plan out of action
- 20:56Speaker 1: for a few months. Unfortunately, by May of ninette, the
- 21:00Speaker 1: facilities were rebuilt and they were back in the heavy
- 21:02Speaker 1: water game. I see a message board here on J
- 21:06Speaker 1: two ski dot com where someone talks about completing a
- 21:09Speaker 1: ski marathon at a hundred and thirty kilometers in two days.
- 21:14Speaker 1: That's faster than walking. Yeah, but that's about That's about it.
- 21:18Speaker 1: Kilometer is more than a mile, so this will probably
- 21:20Speaker 1: take like maybe four days. Yeah, that's about on base
- 21:23Speaker 1: because a hundred forty kilometers is about eighty seven miles.
- 21:27Speaker 1: There's also a lot depends on the terrain, and I
- 21:30Speaker 1: gotta wonder if they had them maybe hoof it occasionally,
- 21:33Speaker 1: if it is if the yeah, or if it was
- 21:35Speaker 1: literally a two hundred mile completely downhill route to sweet
- 21:38Speaker 1: It's just a bunny slope, nothing to it. Um so
- 21:41Speaker 1: pretty cool. Huh, And we hope that you enjoyed the
- 21:46Speaker 1: story of Operation Gunners Side. If you don't know how
- 21:50Speaker 1: to ski yet, I mean, hey, it's never too late
- 21:53Speaker 1: to pick up a new skill set. But before we go,
- 21:57Speaker 1: I I have some breaking news. I've been told that
- 22:00Speaker 1: we have an update on our etymology conversation. Is that correct, Casey?
- 22:04Speaker 1: That is correct? So I did look into the etymology
- 22:08Speaker 1: of saboteur or sabotage, and it does seem to derive
- 22:13Speaker 1: from the word the French word sabo for a wooden
- 22:17Speaker 1: shoe or a clog. So see that that would cause
- 22:21Speaker 1: some damage out absolutely, yeah, that would that would grind
- 22:24Speaker 1: the gears or what have you. Literally, hey, so it
- 22:26Speaker 1: looks like Casey on the Case the segment we never
- 22:29Speaker 1: closed it out last time, so let's close it now,
- 22:32Speaker 1: Casey on the Case. And I do want to point
- 22:36Speaker 1: out to when we talk about how intrepid these uh,
- 22:38Speaker 1: these guys were. They all were equipped with um, you know,
- 22:42Speaker 1: weapons and survival gear, but they had to travel lightly
- 22:45Speaker 1: because they did not have any vehicle support outside of
- 22:48Speaker 1: themselves and their their legs and their skis. They also
- 22:51Speaker 1: had sanide pills on them and so they couldn't be
- 22:54Speaker 1: taken alive. I mean, you know, we've all been in
- 22:57Speaker 1: that kind of situation at some point, and it's just
- 23:00Speaker 1: like the boy Scouts say, you have to be prepared
- 23:03Speaker 1: or excuse me. I think it's just the Scouts now,
- 23:05Speaker 1: isn't it. Yeah, that's right, that's right, that's right. We
- 23:08Speaker 1: hope that you have enjoyed this episode, and we would,
- 23:12Speaker 1: of course, as always, like to thank our superproducer, Casey.
- 23:16Speaker 1: You know, I always want to give you a nickname,
- 23:18Speaker 1: and I always stopped myself. Do you want to be
- 23:20Speaker 1: the saboteur? Oh? I like that idea. Yeah, I'm into it.
- 23:23Speaker 1: I support that wholeheartedly. So we'd like to take our superproducer,
- 23:27Speaker 1: Casey the sabot a pegrum. I would like to thank
- 23:30Speaker 1: Alex Williams, who composed our theme. We'd like to thank Gabe,
- 23:32Speaker 1: our research associate. Man. I'd like to thank you for
- 23:35Speaker 1: being a friend traveling down that road, whether on skis
- 23:39Speaker 1: or on foot, uh, and possibly back again, unless it's
- 23:42Speaker 1: uphill and you're expected to do it on skis, that's
- 23:44Speaker 1: not gonna work. I love playing that song. My cats
- 23:46Speaker 1: are so sick of me playing that. It's a good
- 23:48Speaker 1: show too. It really holds up very forward thinking. It
- 23:50Speaker 1: does surprisingly watching it when I was very young with
- 23:53Speaker 1: my grandmother, I enjoyed it, but I think I didn't
- 23:56Speaker 1: get most of the jokes. So now it's blanches Ah dirty, dirty,
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- 24:25Speaker 1: cat pictures and the like, and then Ben, I believe
- 24:27Speaker 1: you're on there as well. The rumors are true. You
- 24:30Speaker 1: can see my various misadventures that involve, frankly, all kinds
- 24:36Speaker 1: of weird stuff, from from travel to mysterious investigations, um
- 24:41Speaker 1: to god. I don't know there was a time when
- 24:44Speaker 1: I was going through a lot of puppet pictures. Either way,
- 24:47Speaker 1: that's at ben Boland. And of course, if you want
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- 25:04Speaker 1: and we'll talk about some other stuff. But I haven't
- 25:06Speaker 1: quite gotten that far ahead yet, but we'll get there.
- 25:08Speaker 1: We'll see the