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One Piece, 400 & 401 · Spoil Me! One Piece

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This is an Unspoiled Network podcast. This is Spoiled Me, covering one piece
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episodes four hundred and four hundred and one. I should have had this ready,
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but four hundred Roger and Raley, the King of the Pirates and his
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right hand man and no Escape Admiral Kizarou's light speed kick. In these episodes,
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we find out some information about gold Roger and that he was actually kind
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of a nobody in a lot of ways, which really caught me off guard.
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Welcome to spoil Me. Welcome to the show everyone. I am Natasha
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and I am Florian. Welcome yay. So first off, I am surprised
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that you didn't say that this is the episode where Lufy screams no fucking spoilers
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at us. I mean, it would have been on brand, but that's
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just me. I didn't think about it that way. That's a really good
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point. Yeah, oh my god. I wish that there can somebody give
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me a screen grab and just do a little no fucking spoilers like subtitle or
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something and put that in the discord for me to use in response to people
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who search to spoil things. Thank you, appreciate you looking at there for
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you and I didn't even think about it. I have to think about the
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brand exactly. So you know what I'm gonna start with. Why these episodes,
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Um, well, I feel like there's a lot revealed here and I
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I always like that the second episode is just like kind of banana pants,
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like what we see there. Yeah, and yeah, I'm just also kind
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of here to like maybe help you connect the dots, like not lead you
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down the path, but just help you remembering things. I'm gonna need it
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because there is a lot of bringing old things up here that I had like
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basically forgotten about Robin bringing up something here that I was. She says something
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like, what does the d what's the name of it? But I don't
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remember. Do you want do you do the dub or do you do the
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sub? I mean, now for this recording, I watched the dubs,
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but no, UM, I just wanted to check because like it doesn't matter,
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but sometimes if I quote something, if you weren't watching the dub,
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you may not like remember it worded the way that I'm quoting. So I
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just want to be sure that, uh, we're gonna be on the same
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page with that. I appreciate you watching the dubs, even though you normally
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don't. For my sake, that's a real sacrifice I understand amongst you weed
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types, not even like I've said it before because maybe English is not my
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native language, But for me, it's kind of I'm sorry to say that,
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like a cartoon, you know, like I compared it before, like
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when I watched Steven Universe in English, or like Avatar, like the Last
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Airbane or it's no different for me d shows and like watching an anime in
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English. To be honest, right, maybe that's just because I'm not a
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native speaker. Yeah, so let's I'm gonna jump in. Rather than trying
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to talk about the thing with Robin right away, let's just get actually started
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here. I also like last episode, I pointed out how it was like
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the first time that they didn't have the gold Roger opening about you know,
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the one piece and the whole legend with that, And now it makes some
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sense why they have kind of pulled back with that because we get an explanation
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about what was going on there, and it feels like changing over the way
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we're gonna do an opening. I don't know, it just makes sense at
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this point, but I did not know that was what was going on there.
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I just thought that they decided we're going on four hundred episodes here,
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maybe we can stop with the explaining what the show is about, because everybody
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knows by now. So we start off with Duval giving Kamie back her backpack.
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Hello, adorable seatshell backpack, and he is I dou Fall is so
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weird looking. Oh my god, Like I get that he's supposed to what's
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that not handsome? I guess he's like he's handsome in the way that a
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person who has had a little bit too much plastic surgery is handsome. Where
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Like, technically they are symmetrical and each element of their face is pleasing,
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but all together they just don't really quite look right anymore. Yeah, absolutely
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is something off putting. I don't know. Yeah, but yeah, he
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tries to wink at them once again. But um but he did terrible attempt
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he did. He did beat up the peter Man guy. Yes, yes,
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I wish we got to see that a little peter Man. That's what
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it is, peter Man. Yeah, but it is, yes, it
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is. Um. So the rest of the gang is they're carrying hotchi to
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Ralegh's house. Well, Rayley's carrying Hatchie by himself, really, and they
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are going to take care of his wounds. And when they kid inside,
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we just jump right to Lufy screaming you were on gold Rogers Crew, and
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he looks like mad about it that he didn't like know this right away,
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mum, which makes sense. It's like he says, I served as his
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vice captain. And of course once he adds this, everybody in the room
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is just like, what the fuck? And I just really want to point
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out sorry, go ahead, no, no, I wanted to point out
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that just like takes a sleep and then spits it out like thank you,
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That's exactly what I was gonna say. It's not a genuine spittake. He
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doesn't, he's not in the middle of drinking when he finds it out and
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spits it out of surprise. He purposely, after hearing it, drinks and
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then spits it out, which, honestly, I just love that so much.
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It's such a it's such a like silly background joke. Yes, it's
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good ship, guys. I really I really like that absolutely, and apparently
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fucking Hotchi knew this, yeah, and just never said anything to them about
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it. I mean it's no big deal. He's like, I don't know,
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he was just going to coat the boat. I'm like, oh my
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god, really, you know this is like it will be like your your
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car breaks down and your friend is like, yeah, let's go to this
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headic that I know, and then it's just Barack Obama and you're like,
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oh, I have a guy, Barry. He's really good with the stuff.
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Uh um. And fucking Brook says, I seem to remember a rookie
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with a name like that long ago, but I'm not really sure which just
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you know, I keep sort of forgetting how old Brooke is. He's got
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young energy, so I think of him as being like a teen, you
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know, and that is just super duper not the case. And Raley says
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he was like rescued when he was stranded at sea by Hatchie. Right,
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is that how they met? He says that was over twenty years ago,
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but I'll never forget it for as long as I live. Hatchie was still
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just a little kid when it happened, but he saved Rayleigh's life. We
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remained good friends until he joined up with the Sun Pirates and that like that's
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when Lufy chimes in and he's like, are along? Is that who you're
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talking about? And I really wanted to like get a little bit more about
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that because I was sort of the way she said it, we were friends,
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We were friends with him until then it felt like they didn't approve of
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the pirates that he threw in with. And I can't tell if that's just
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me wanting them to disapprove because they were bad, bad boys, or if
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it's because that's really what she's saying is basically like our acquaintance broke off due
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to him falling in with bad company. You know it is what do you
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if you may know though, this is the thing. You may know the
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answer If you do, don't tell me. If you don't, though,
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feel free to guess what you think. I'm going to be honest. This
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is something that I like never really paid attention to. Oh that's very but
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I do, like I did get a feeling like like, not to specific,
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I mean, pay attention to, like do the specific thing that you
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were saying, but just in general, I get the wipe that there is
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or got the wipe that there is something more there, you know, like
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they have history, they have clearly history in some capacity. I think that
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it's just like Hatchie thrown in with them when he seemed like he had been
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a good boy before and he seems like he's trying to be a good boy
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now. And I just really kind of want to know, like why,
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Hatchie, what drew you to those terrible dudes. I'm just I want to
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know what happened to you so that we can have some outreach programs further at
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rescue. And this is the part that I thought was the most fun.
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Sangi is like, well, you know, the Marines captured the tire crew,
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didn't they. And there's this long pause as we like go all around
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the room with the camera and look at everybody's faces, and then finally Raley
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says, the Marines didn't actually catch Roger. He turned himself in. They
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just like to say that they caught him because it makes them seem more competent
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and badass. But he genuinely just like walked up to them and was like,
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hey, here I am and I really enjoy this a lot. This
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is something And forgive me, guys, if you can hear things. I
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have a dog in here who's just restless. Now, there are so many
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instances when do you do you Florian consume any like true crime stuff podcasts or
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shows a kitchen. Um, it took me a minute to like register what
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you meant. Oh my god, um No, I don't. The thing
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that I keep running into that makes me laugh. And I get why they
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do it, especially when it's a TV show. I listened to the Snapped
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podcast a lot, but they have to like make the case interesting for entertainment
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value to the listener as well, so I get what they're doing. But
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a lot of the time, there'll be this long story about like the circumstances
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surrounding the murder and all of these dead ends and blah blah blah, and
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then all of a sudden they'll be like, eventually we found a text message
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where she was like, Hey, I'm gonna go murder him, and then
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replied half an hour later, Okay, I murdered him. We're good.
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And it's like there's something so incredibly obvious and it's all built up, like
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the police cry actually the case, and they fucking didn't crack the case.
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Somebody did something so unbelievably stupid and obvious that it was right fucking there,
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and they almost still got away. With it, like, because police honestly
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do not really do very much in terms of catching murderers. Just FYI,
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those of you who aren't aware, it's real bad, Like look into we
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have this whole thing in the United States. I feel like is especially particular
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with this where we like think of serial killers as being these masterminds who are
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out here toying with the police, you know, having these fucking like intricate
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plans. No, they are just like boring white men that seem respectable,
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and so nobody looks twice at them, despite mountains of evidence pointing in their
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direction. Or they choose like victims that nobody cares about. And I think
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it was Jeffrey Dahmer that there was literally a young man like bleeding in the
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street and people called the cops, and the kid was telling the police he
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drugged me and I woke up to him raping me, and they were like,
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is this true, dude, And he was like, no, no,
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he just got too drunk. Don't worry about it. And they were
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like, yeah, that seems right, and they let him take the guy
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back to his home where he then murdered him. That is a true story.
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So I am saying all of this to say, the fact that Roger
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just turned himself in and was not actually caught lines up with my understanding of
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law enforcement in general. And I really really like this way, so I
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mean, yeah, yeah, I like it too. I like this whole
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sequence, as you say, like with him kind of telling this story just
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like how it is also shot kind of you know, especially I feel like
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he's framing is like really intentional, Like yeah, that's not every shot.
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There's a feeling almost of like Tarantino movies sometimes with it. Yeah, you
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can clearly see like he is the vocal vocal point, you know, m
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and kind of also like it kind of makes sense step and he smiled at
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the end, you know, like he kind of I mean, that's the
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question, isn't it Did he plan it? Or I don't know what was
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going on with him really also doesn't seem to know the answer that yeah,
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yeah, and oh my god. And then we find out. So it
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turns out Goldie Roger found out that he was really ill, he was terminal,
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and that's the reason he turned himself in was that he just knew he
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was on his way out anyway. So the crew began to like slowly break
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up before he turned himself in, so that they wouldn't all just be like
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caught out. I'm assuming in that way they would have intermingled with society and
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gotten on with their lives in a more above board way and wouldn't be associated
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with him by the time he'd put himself to the Marines. But the the
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doctor that diagnosed him was evidently Crocus, who lives inside of what is his
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name? La Boom? Yes surprised, Yeah, and like this is a
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thing that it's very you could go like a little too far with it where
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everything's connected. Oh, this thing somebody that we met already he turns out
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to be the one, And sometimes I can get kind of sick of that
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where it's like, well, or we could just have things be a coincidence,
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because that's how life works. Also, but this doesn't feel gratuitous,
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because it's not like we have this happen all the time in this show.
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We meet lots of people along the way that don't wind up having a tie
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to anything specific. So having it happen I had no problem with, and
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especially because Crocus felt like somebody with a backstory that was interesting. It wasn't
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like I needed to know it, but just from his whole like energy,
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he just seemed like somebody that had lived a real life, and it made
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sense to me to find this out, you know, definitely, like actually
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just today rewatching when you think about it, like like I think really says
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it that Crocus was like a really gifted doctor, Like he was like apparently
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brilliant or whatever you want to say. And when you think back to it,
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this man lives. I mean, he made a whale habitable, habitable,
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like he has a house in there. He can't walk in there.
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And like, when you think back, even though we have seen a lot
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of crazy shit, that is something like living inside the whale and the way
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it's fine and you are fine, like that is some medicine that is pretty
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damn impressive when you actually start to think about it. But at the beginning,
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maybe because it was just the beginning of the grand line, you were
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just like, well, that's how the things are here, but maybe there
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was something special there that's true, Like that is kind of what I was
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thinking when we first got here, was like, well, I guess we're
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going to encounter some really weird shit here. I mean, but that's true.
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But thinking back that is really something insane. And Brooke is so like
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touched because of his connection with Laboon and really says that he was only with
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them for like three years, but even so, everybody really felt like he
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was just as much a part of the crew as people who had been with
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them for a lot longer. Um. Oh, I'm sorry, I'm just
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seeing. Jessica is in the chat saying I like it too. It makes
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sense and it adds to Roger's legend as the great pirate king that was never
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caught. And then when we first met Crocus, he even mentioned Roger.
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It's so good on reread, Oh what did he say? Do you remember
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specifically, Jessica. Jessica says, I think at least it's been some time
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since I saw that. No pressure, but if you know, like what
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he said exactly, or if you know, Florian, I am curious now,
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but you don't have to, would you just dog? Oh my god,
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I I think he said something like, um, Roger either like me?
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What did he say? Like something? It was not about Roger.
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It was like he spoke to Roger like he looked the straw heads like sail
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away and was like something like either he ran Lufi Ryan reminds him of Roger
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or something like, um, yeah, something in this way, like I
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think that Luf okay. So he wasn't like speaking to the crew. It
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was like him talking to himself. Yeah, or maybe in that moment,
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you know, like because right spirit, okay, whatever, Yeah, that
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makes sense. It was more in this way. But I don't know the
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actual words, so don't pay me to them. Yeah, and he says
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before this, nobody had ever called Roger king of anything. Titles don't hold
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much meaning for a man about to die, and Roger was still overjoyed to
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hear it. And I really really like this because it's like basically like a
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legacy that he created. At the moment that they were taking his life away,
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he figured out how to do something that ensured he would be as good
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as immortal, which is very very difficult. And there has been correct me
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if I'm wrong. There have been a couple things floated around here and there
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that almost made it seem like Roger might still be out there alive. I
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don't remember exactly what they were. I just remember there being like suggestion of,
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well somebody saw him or a person very close or like we found this
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that was somewhere that he could only have reached after his death or something,
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and I can't remember what it is. Um. I don't mean to put
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you on the spot again because I'm just going to be doing this, But
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if anybody remembers what I'm talking about, unless it's like not really meant to
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be taken that seriously, I don't know. I'm gonna be honest, I
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don't remember any of that kind of thing, Okay. Really like when something
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like this comes up, I feel like it is always meant as his spirit
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that leaves on, you know, like he's not that he lives on as
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a like flesh person like right right, human meat sech But sir, but
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I kitchen comment earlier. Yeah, I'm sorry, Um, yeah, no,
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but I feel like, I mean, they have been references to him
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and to like the legacy that he left behind, but I don't remember a
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specific thing where somebody was like he's among us, He's okay, Yeah,
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if anybody listening like knows what I'm talking about, because like I said,
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I can't remember specifics. And that's like one of the only things that can
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be tough with this show is that there's such a slow burn on certain aspects
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of it that when you come back around it's like really difficult to remember what
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they're referencing unless you actually go back and rewatch. And sometimes you get like
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a very particular flashback, which is great, but you don't always get that.
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Like with Robbins, she just talks about it and you see like the
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image of the stone where the writing was, but you don't really get a
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full flashback to her fi finding it and what was going on at the time.
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So I still, even with like the image of it and everything,
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felt as if I was sort of piecing things together and not fully remembering at
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all. But we'll get to that in a second, because she's about to
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start talking in a moment. Let's see, I'm just reading what Railey is
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saying a future that he wouldn't be a part of the Pirates were secretly disbanded,
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and we have some interesting animation while he's talking about this part of a
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giant bubble with lots of like little bubbles inside it, and it pops and
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the little bubbles go, you know, they're separate ways, and he just
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says, like, as far as I know, they all might be alive
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out there, but I have no idea what they're actually doing now. And
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it took about a year after that for him to turn himself in. And
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let's see, he was going to be executed publicly in log Town, which
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we already knew. And they're using the imagery in this part that was from
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the original opening, which I think is kind of fun. And he says
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the people who bore witnessed in the square that fateful day went on to make
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names for themselves on the high seas. So basically the whole thing that the
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Navy the Marines were trying to do was used Roger as an examples like tamped
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down pirate activity. But because of what Roger said, it led to everybody
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who even folks who had not originally been intending to become pirates, getting possessed
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with this like fever and going oh well, yeah, now we're going to
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definitely go out there and like I'm this treasure. And it had the exact
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opposite effect of what the Marines intended, which is actually very funny and I
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really like that a lot too. Yes, just him giving an extra fuck
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you before he what didn't he get stabbed with spears? Is that how the
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execution went? Yes, Apparently in this world, it's kind of like too
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spearsful. I feel like they're supposed to punctuate you hot from both sides.
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Okay, Brian says, I posted the page with Crocus talking about mentioning Roger
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in the no spoilers page. Awesome, thank you, Brian. Um And
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yeah, he says that, like, the last thing that he said to
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me was basically, even once they execute me, I won't die. So
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I enjoy this because, you know, as as much as I knew that
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he was like a big deal and he has this speech that we hear a
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million times, I never really understood a lot about his personality. And knowing
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that he decided to go out like this, I feel like tells me everything
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I needed to know about the kind of person he is. That he was
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just like, all right, well, first of all, I'm going to
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be very organized about it. I never got caught because I'm good at it.
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But once I do turn myself in, I'm going to make sure that
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none of you guys are in danger of getting caught. So everybody break apart
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and go do your thing. And I'm going to make sure that despite the
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Marines probably having chased him for like ever, despite them doing this for their
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purpose, I'm going to ensure this becomes their worst nightmare. I love this
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for him, Yes, I mean it's a way to go. I'm trying
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to think about, like, what can I do to emulate gold Roger at
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this point, I would like to know, And I'm taking suggestions everybody for
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chaos plans that I can leave behind to really like fuck with cops or capitalism.
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I don't know something, help me out, Well, we'll bring storm
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it. Maybe if I come up with something good enough, we can all
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sign a pact that will do the same thing upon our deaths and really fucking
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cause total chaos. Um. I see um communeiforming more and more from day
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to day. I'm just there's going to be an unsilber episode about the Commune
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coming up soon in the next month, I think, because it's just been
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on my mind for reasons I had heretofore been sort of like maybe we'll just
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you know, I think I assumed it would be in the US, but
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maybe not. Maybe I should seek abroad for the unspoiled Commune broads other than
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myself, Am I right? Okay? I'm so sorry? Oh you go,
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Okay, I'm just like, all of er shit, can we not
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just go planet or something? But yeah, okay, one piece, let's
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go there. Um, so let's see us says it sounds like you're trying
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to say Roger created the Great Pirate Era on purpose, and he's like,
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well, there's no way to know for sure. I'm like, there's kind
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of a way to know for sure, which is the fact that he said
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when I die, I won't really die. I feel like that's pretty self
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explanatory there, sir. But okay, and he says they're definitely people who
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inherited the spirit of adventure from him that day. And when he says that,
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the camera jumps over to Lufy in the background, absolutely stuffing his face
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in an attitude of like he's like cross legged on the bar with his mouth
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full, holding a banana in one hand, stuffing something else into his mouth
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with the other. And this keeps like being the look of Lufy in the
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background. And I really really liked this because like it's so easy to be
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like, oh, somebody, I think that there were a lot of people
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who inherited his sense of adventure that day. You would normally have the camera
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turned to Lufy looking serious and focused and formidable, and instead he looks like
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a four year old in his high chair with like apple sauce all over.
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It's really not a second. I'm screensharing just so that you guys can get
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a sense of what I'm talking about, because the let's see chrome tab here
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it is. That's just him sitting there listening. It's just such a great
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surprising choice when he's meant to be sort of the hero I think of this
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whole tale. You know, he's a reprecious angel. So it turns out
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that the ship that Shanks and Buggy the clown, we're on, this gold
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Rogers ship. Surprise. Excuse me. I think I have, first of
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all, been laboring under this misapprehension that the whole thing with Roger took place
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a lot longer ago than it did. I know that we've I know,
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we've. Yeah, we've been over the timing of this a million times.
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I feel like everybody has reminded me of this more than once. But all
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it took, apparently to erase that timeline from my mind, was having any
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footage of Goldie Roger in Cepia tone, which immediately put him at least a
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century earlier at Mini Muscle. Must be he clearly lived in the Old West
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in the eighteen eighties. Like that's the only reason. So that just like
34:20
even the possibility that they were on his ship never even entered my head as
34:28
a possibility. I just didn't think that it was like the timing would have
34:31
worked out, you know. And I was just like and that just like
34:37
the like told him me of it, you know, like kind of Shanks
34:42
was on his shape and become pretty much a badass, you know, and
34:45
back was on his shape, and I mean Backy's not a badass. He
34:52
became a badass asterisk, yes, but you know what I mean, Like
34:59
you you can see that there are different paths. And when I think of,
35:07
okay, these two were on Roger's crew, then the rest of the
35:10
crew, like I can start painting a picture in my head, but maybe
35:16
these were not like the I'm not just gonna say it. I from this
35:21
moment and I was like, oh, they were like the straw heads of
35:22
the old like they were yeah, yeah, like they were probably pretty chaotic,
35:29
yeah, and like a crazy bunch, which is great. I mean
35:35
I'm trying to think. I know that it's like not likely possible, but
35:40
just trying to like align some of the characters from his crew to characters on
35:46
our current crew. I'm trying to think who's the most likely to be Buggy,
35:52
And I'm so sorry to all of our guys, because none of you
35:54
are most likely to be Buggy in camp. Promant, power or just overall
36:04
attitude doesn't match. However, if I were going to go with anybody,
36:10
I think I'd have to say Frankie, probably because he splits up into like
36:16
lots of parts. He's just like very wacky. You know, yes,
36:22
that checks out? No, I agree, I feel like that sort of
36:27
work. Do you think we will see him again? Like, I mean,
36:34
so that's a big question. Yes, I I think that I operate
36:44
watching this show with the assumption that we will always see everybody again, like
36:50
that there will inevitably be a point where somebody comes back around. Whether or
36:54
not that's like a filler episode is a different question, because it could be.
37:00
You know, we had a Foxy Pirates come up in another filler arcum.
37:07
But I have just been assuming that we're probably going to see folks again
37:14
at some point, whether it's like some big showdown where we have a lot
37:20
of our our old enemies all turn up at the same time kind of thing.
37:25
The thing is like Buggy was only a real challenge to the old Lufy
37:32
And I don't know if nowadays he would present any difficulty whatsoever, and whether
37:40
I want to see him again a little. He's just so strange. Yes,
37:51
you know, yes, No, I totally get it, he's absolutely
38:00
Yeah. I was just thinking about the life action now. I'm just like,
38:01
I hope they do it, do him just this, because he is
38:05
like one of a kind of a character kind of Yeah, definitely. I
38:10
kept thinking because, like I watched the trailer, which looks very promising,
38:17
and it made me laugh to think how the first site you get of Buggy
38:23
the Clown, if you aren't familiar with one piece, you would be like,
38:30
oh great, we've got like this Joker type character, or we've got
38:34
a penny Why is the clown type character? Like the look of him is
38:39
such that you would expect him to be a certain type of villain. And
38:45
I am so curious to see what the reaction is of people who watch the
38:52
live action who have never watched the anime before, Like I would love to
39:00
know what they think they're getting. With Buggy and then see how they react
39:05
to what they do get with Buggy, because I just feel like his packaging
39:10
does not match the interior, you know what I'm saying, Yes, no,
39:17
absolutely it is. Some people online say, I mean nobody has what's
39:27
it called. These are just like thoughts of people. But a lot of
39:30
people think that maybe they will take like a darker route with party Buggy,
39:37
but I personally don't believe that. Like I feel like they will probably build
39:39
him up and then at some point they would kind of like knock him down
39:44
and then you will see how silly he was, which actually happened in the
39:47
anime because in the first, like I feel like the first one or two
39:51
episodes he see episodes, he seems like foreboding, but then yeah, yeah,
39:57
he gets kind of revealed and you're like, oh, you're you're yeah.
40:05
Yeah. I hope they don't want sorry, just one more common on
40:08
the live action, but I hope that they don't do the like we're gonna
40:12
go a darker red Like. The thing that I think is a major pitfall
40:17
for things like the DC universe is this bizarre urge to try and adultify stuff
40:25
that is on its face silly. Comics are silly a lot of the time,
40:31
you know, And the MCU did a really good job, I felt
40:35
like, of managing to like make certain things feel like they were high stakes,
40:39
but preserving the goofiness and just enough that it felt like it was still
40:46
understanding what it was and not making itself too important. And DC has just
40:52
never really recently seemed very good at that. They seem to want everything to
40:58
be like big metaphors and shades of gray. And when I say shades of
41:02
gray, I don't mean like storytelling. I mean literally on the screen,
41:06
everything is gray and gritty is the new Like I say that this has kind
41:14
of fallen by the wayside, Thank god, I feel like, but I
41:16
hope that they don't gritify. I don't think so. And I feel like
41:24
camp it's campy, like like it's camp these stories campy. So just let
41:34
it's embracing exactly. Um okay, So yeah, this is when lufy I
41:42
love when he because Louvie Free sounds like, wait, Shanks was on the
41:46
crew with you and really sort of stops and just goes, I take it
41:52
he never told you. And there's a sort of vibe to him of just
41:55
like, maybe I shouldn't have said anything. Why didn't he tell you?
42:01
You know? Yeah, and that's how that's why he like specifically mentioned Lufy's
42:09
straw hat because he recognized it from Shanks. I thought it was that he
42:16
saw it from the poster, you know, like he's he's wearing the hat
42:21
and the poster. I just assumed, you know, but yeah, he's
42:27
let's say, there's a kid in the East Blue said the same thing.
42:30
Captain Rogers said his spirit lives on in him, and Raliu says, yeah,
42:36
I've remembered that and ever since I've wanted to meet you. And Lufy
42:42
is so touched. It's really really cute. He pulls his head, his
42:45
hat over his face and he goes, oh, Shanks, which felt like
42:51
they were making a little bit of a joke here with aw shucks. I
42:53
don't know if that was intended, though. Jessica says, by the way,
43:02
you can see Rayley during the Buggy flashback in episode eight or so,
43:09
you can see like a younger Rayleigh. But it's also the art style back
43:16
then is kind of different, So it's supposed to be the same character,
43:21
but they are not exactly the same. Although he's younger. Episode eight,
43:27
that's very early on for him to have like my goodness, well okay,
43:38
so yeah. Then Rayley is basically like, there's other shit that I could
43:42
say about Shanks, but since he hasn't even told you he was part of
43:45
the crew, I am not going to tell you anymore about it. Just
43:49
you know, he's in the New World and he is waiting for you and
43:53
very excited to see you again. So that's fun. I'm looking forward to
43:59
seeing Shanks again, Like you know, we saw that recent thing with him
44:02
and his hockey development, so I'm curious. I want to know more.
44:14
And then it's time for him to go and coat the ship, and Hatschi
44:21
is like, how much is not going to cost, by the way,
44:22
and he assures them that he is not going to charge them, but that
44:28
it will take like three days or so because it needs to dry the coating,
44:32
so it takes some patience. And as he is talking about all of
44:38
this with them, Robin is off to the side looking like really pressed,
44:46
and we are getting some flashback moments from her, and she finally stands up
44:52
and says, I have a question here. It is what exactly is the
45:02
will of d there was a ponent glyph on Sky Island. Roger's name was
45:08
inscribed on it in that ancient form of writing. How does he know it
45:13
and how can he use that language? And what he wrote was I made
45:19
it here and I will guide this passage all the way to the farthest ends
45:23
of the earth. And then she says, please tell me, do you
45:30
know what happened during the Blank century? The Missing History from nine hundred years
45:37
ago? Which I'm going to be real with y'all. I completely forgot about
45:44
this whole thing, completely utterly and totally forgot. Yeah, just genuinely took
46:00
me a minute to even remember what the hell she was talking about here.
46:05
And Raley says, yes, we know, and says we all learned the
46:15
entirety of the Missing History, and Robin is just like floored, and we
46:22
have the animation of her just standing there with like leaves blowing around her.
46:27
And then he says, but don't be hasty. Your journey has to keep
46:34
moving forward. And then this is the we and O'Hara might have hurried too
46:45
much for our own good. I'm sure that's not what you wanted to hear.
46:50
Even if I told you everything you wanted to know about that history here
46:53
and now, just as you are, you couldn't do anything about it.
46:59
Once you've taken in the time to really see the world, it might change
47:02
your outlook and possibly lead you to a different answer. But if you still
47:07
insist on hearing it, I can tell you everything. It's up to you,
47:15
and I gotta tell you guys, I feel like you should just have
47:21
gotten the information. Noah spoilers, Natasha. I just feel like whether or
47:30
not you can do anything about it right now isn't exactly the part that's relevant.
47:37
Maybe you can't do anything about it now, but you can work to
47:39
the point that you can. And if you know what it is that you
47:43
want to that you're going to be dealing with, maybe you'll be able to
47:47
formulate a plan that is more focused towards developing the skills necessary to do what
47:55
you need to do. But she says no, I'll pass and continue my
48:04
journey, and he assures her that it will make sense one of these days.
48:15
But just so you know, Roger did not decipher that writing. See
48:21
we were not scholars. He heard the voice of the universe. He says,
48:30
he heard the voice of the universe quote, and that's all that happened,
48:42
casually, And that's all that happened. Yeah, what is that supposed
48:54
to mean? Oh? You know, he just heard the profound voice of
49:00
all creations speaking within him and it's not a big deal. What are you
49:09
fuck you talking about? Sir? Nobody in the room asks him what the
49:22
fuck this means? It's just immediately jumping to oos up going Robin, are
49:28
you sure you don't want to know? It seems like you're passing up a
49:30
really good opportunity. Look us up. I get what you're saying, but
49:36
can we please back up and take another look at the fact that he is
49:42
just talking about how Roger heard the voice of the universe. Nobody wants to
49:49
know more about what the fuck that means? What the fuck? Where's everybody's
49:58
curiosity? What's happening? Oh? I love it? Well? I oh
50:06
god, maybe I can shed a little light on this, not too much
50:12
from the there's nothing you can say, Florian, Okay, maybe that will
50:17
make you make any sense to me, but please please continue. I feel
50:23
like, as far as I know, in the when you actually translate it,
50:28
it is the voice of all things, and I feel like they understand
50:36
it as he was just kind of in tune or like he yeah, he
50:45
when they understand voice of all things, I feel like they mean more like
50:47
the voice of the people. But I listened to other one piece podcasts and
50:53
I did that's what was sit there, So I can I believe you've been
50:58
cheating at me with other one piece podcast Wow? Rude, But it is
51:05
like kind of yeah, it is a one thing. I never noticed it
51:08
as much as you did. What the fuck is what all of you guys?
51:15
You and when the fucking straw hats just being like oh is that it?
51:20
Okay? Oh whatever, I've lost interest. What the hell you're over
51:24
here? Like, well, you know, I'm pretty sure that it just
51:27
meant that he suddenly felt in tune with the entirety of all things ever created.
51:32
That's not less compelling, Florian. That's not a explanation. I know,
51:39
I know. I'm sorry. M M yeah, what what do you
51:47
think? What think what this means? Like like if if if that is
51:55
indeed what happened, if he just heard the voice of the universe verse and
52:00
somehow knew how to write, then it means the Pono glyphs have all been
52:08
written by people who are hearing the Voice of All Things because Robin knew how
52:16
to decipher it, and she, excuse me, she has determined that was
52:22
written in the same language as the rest of the ponoglyph So I have to
52:29
assume somehow the Voice of all Things. I really can't with that that this
52:40
is what people had been channeling then too. But I don't understand how it's
52:45
treated like so casually here, like it's just a given, like everybody knows
52:52
that. It's like saying he's like it's like he's like, oh, he
52:53
just taped it into Google Translate, no big deal. Basically that's that.
53:00
It's the level of total cavalier like nonchalance about it. And I do not
53:07
understand how everybody just lets that go, including apparently Florian, who is like,
53:16
I didn't think about it that much. I don't know what. I
53:22
don't know what to think. I just I'm just gonna say, you're ready,
53:28
really good at your Natasha, I listen. I don't even know what
53:40
to do with that. But maybe that has something to do with like what
53:46
the Lost century was that, like the voice of the universe was lost or
53:52
something like if it's a language, the thing is how does Robin know how
53:58
to decipher it? Is it from the library that she grew up in.
54:02
I can't remember, because I'm sure we has been told this, but I
54:05
can't recall. Yeah, they all like, it's not like they actually deciphered
54:09
it. Like it was not like they knew it from the beginning. They
54:14
had to study and then learned and were somehow able to start to decipher it.
54:19
And that's where and that's why the whole island could glue blown up because
54:23
it is forbidden to study this by the world government. Right because the Pona
54:30
glyphs all have to do with the Lost century, the Void century, is
54:36
that we get that's the blank century, the void century. These two terms,
54:43
I feel like a frown around lost a blank and void century. Okay,
54:50
huh, Well, I know that it's likely not related, but I'm
55:00
going to put forth a very wobbly sort of theory here, and that is
55:10
something to do with this lost century is related to these asshole celestial dragons being
55:20
here. I think because I don't like them. They're bad people, and
55:27
I feel like since they are in charge at the highest levels and studying this
55:34
is forbidden. The only reason that people keep things from being studied is because
55:42
they will be taken down using the information. So something to do with them,
55:50
and I'm hoping it's about how they have like a weakness to some very
55:55
particular mineral that we can just poison all the celestial wagons with and then we
56:01
don't have to deal with their bullshit anymore. That's just my my vague series,
56:08
okay. And this is when us Up stands up and he says,
56:17
old guy, I've got a question of my own, the legendary one Piece.
56:22
Tell me is it really? And Lufy jumps in and yells that's enough
56:30
and slams his foot on the bar. Pour us Up looks so scared,
56:39
and Lufy says, I don't want to know where the One Piece is.
56:43
I don't even want to know if it exists. We set out to see
56:47
without knowing anything. I'd rather give up being a pirate than no. I
56:54
won't go on a boring adventure. We need to sail and find out for
57:00
ourselves. Now. Look, I know what he's coming. I understand the
57:13
spirit of what he's saying here, and I respect it. I do.
57:17
I feel like that's a noble pursuit, and I like it to the business
57:30
I'm the journey is the destination and all that. However, I posit an
57:40
argument, which is, you go on an adventure to find a thing,
57:46
and you meet somebody directly related to the thing you want to find after years
57:58
of travel. It seems like to me that's not cheating. This is the
58:07
thing you set out to do is find somebody who knows information and get that
58:14
information to then make your next move. You don't just aimlessly wander with no
58:22
info at all, which is what they have been doing. So I say,
58:28
you don't just but that's precisely what the show has been up to this
58:31
point. And I see that I get it, but he's acting like by
58:38
getting the information here, it's the equivalent of like flipping to the end of
58:44
the book and reading the last page. Unless the one piece is literally in
58:51
this man's pocket right now and he can hand it to you and be like,
58:55
oh, yeah, I have it, and he like, we're willing
59:00
to do that. Also unless that getting information from him is still part of
59:08
the adventure because you still have to go get it, you know, like
59:16
assuming it exists, and if it doesn't exist, if he were like,
59:22
oh, there is no one piece, I do not imagine for a single
59:25
moment that Lufy would believe him or listen to him. If he was like
59:30
said anything counter to what Lufy wants, It would not matter, he would
59:36
one percent. Lufy would just continue his pursuit anyway. It wouldn't matter.
59:42
So I feel that while Lufy is acting like usup's goal here is like the
59:47
antithesis of their mission and journey and quest. I think it falls precisely within
59:57
the parameters of their mission and journey and quest. So that's my ass my
1:00:04
argument there. What do you think I do agree with you? The only
1:00:12
thing I should say is it's boring. So but how do you know it's
1:00:20
boring? Because for all we know, he could be like, well,
1:00:25
it's definitely real. But like I said, we all broke off a year
1:00:31
before he even turned himself in, so I don't fucking know where it is.
1:00:36
Maybe that'd be what he said. We'll never know because Lufy has to
1:00:39
interrupt the conversation for his own ends. But this man may not, like
1:00:45
he may not know where it is. Lufy's behaving is if he can pull
1:00:50
out a map with an X exactly where they need to go. And I
1:00:52
would just like to say even if he could do that, can we all
1:00:59
look back, Ah, what adventures our friends have run into simply trying to
1:01:04
get from one island to another. Just having a map telling you this is
1:01:08
where it is does not keep it from being an adventure. Well, I'm
1:01:15
gonna say, I mean you have said aimlessly. It is not aimlessly because
1:01:20
it is said that, and that is actually information they got from Krokus at
1:01:23
the very beginning that the last island of the grand line is where Roger or
1:01:32
left or one piece or like where not that was not the exact wording,
1:01:37
but basically where it's most likely to be, you know, like and yeah,
1:01:44
and if you follow the log post so you hope from island to island,
1:01:46
that will get you there eventually. M So basically the route is kind
1:01:53
of clear. Um, the question is just what it is? So that's
1:02:00
the proper do want it? Because he even though he doesn't know the exact
1:02:05
route, he kind of knows how where to get how to get there,
1:02:09
so he doesn't want to know what's the end there? What's waiting? Okay,
1:02:16
Well, let's see I'm going back to when he says the one piece,
1:02:21
tell me is it really? And then he gets cut off, so
1:02:25
it's difficult to know. I wasn't taking it like he was asking what it
1:02:31
is specifically, although maybe it could have been that he was saying, is
1:02:36
it really like tons of gold? Um? I thought he was about to
1:02:40
say, like, is it really true? But I didn't remember Crocus telling
1:02:46
them that it was probably like the very last island on the Grand line.
1:02:51
So see, this is what's so important. They're they're like a lot of
1:02:55
what turn out in the in the grand scheme to be like important pieces of
1:03:00
information, but in the short term they aren't really important to remember. So
1:03:07
I put them out of my head because there's so much in the immediate that
1:03:10
I need to remember people's names, you know, all of this stuff that's
1:03:15
like you know who, who has what powers and who's associated with what entity?
1:03:22
That trying to keep in mind the bigger stuff, I just don't do
1:03:29
it. I don't bother because it often takes so long to circle back around
1:03:32
to it. So Croak is saying that it's not even like, oh now
1:03:38
I remember, I don't remember that at all. I believe you, but
1:03:43
I really truly have no memory of that at all. So apologies, No,
1:03:49
it's fine, Like and that's kind of like the curse of such a
1:03:52
long series and maybe, yeah, that's definitely drawn out at parts, but
1:04:00
then the benefit of that it is like really a rewarding series to watch again
1:04:06
or read again. It is like really astonishing when you go back and you
1:04:13
just see so many little moments and yeah, that's that's I wonder how they
1:04:21
do it. Writers who plan this far ahead. That's truly bonkers to me,
1:04:28
Like I could never It's the sort of thing where I feel like,
1:04:30
if I attempted something like this, I would just spend eternity in the planning
1:04:34
stages and would never actually get to the point where I'm like writing the story
1:04:39
because I would be so wrapped up in all of like the backstory stuff,
1:04:43
you know. But anyway, yeah, Lufy is very very intent on this
1:04:50
USAP apologizes, and Shocky, for her part, is like, well,
1:04:56
I really like the cuttier jib. But Rayley says, just so you know,
1:05:05
when you get to the New World, you are going to encounter foes
1:05:12
unlike any that you have faced so far. Do you really think that you
1:05:17
can like be king of the Sea. And I love this moment so much
1:05:24
because basically Lufy's like king of the Sea. Who the fuck said anything about
1:05:29
that? I didn't. I don't want to be king of the sea.
1:05:31
That's not did you have you been listening? We want we want to know
1:05:34
about the one piece. That's what we're here for. King of the Sea
1:05:38
is a whole other thing that's not interesting for me at all. And Rayley
1:05:43
is basically like, oh, that's basically how Will Roger was. Also,
1:05:48
you really do sort of remind me of him. You know. Lufy has
1:05:54
no desire to rule. He doesn't want to fucking like be in charge.
1:06:00
That's not his ministry, as Rasha must say, which is kind of interesting
1:06:09
because actually in the whole series so far, this is like the first time
1:06:14
where we as a viewer kind of idea of what it means for Lufy to
1:06:21
become King of the Pirates. You know, like you could very well think
1:06:26
of he wants to rule, you know, but I mean that's not Lufy.
1:06:30
But now he's saying out loud like, no, that's not the that's
1:06:33
not the part that I want, you know, Like yeah, And it's
1:06:38
I'm finding like really interesting to finally hear him kind of say what he thinks
1:06:44
this means. But what he accomplishes here, you know, which is kinda
1:06:48
also a wild thing. It's like episode four hundred. So but yeah,
1:06:57
I mean, I oh sorry, go ahead. Yeah, I just want
1:07:00
to just just a quick shout out to Shaky. She's just the best.
1:07:03
I love her. Yeah, she's delightful because he just mentioned her and totally
1:07:10
forgot about her. There's so much other things here. So yeah, this
1:07:17
like the as you point out, like looking at the way Lufy is approaching
1:07:24
this. When he called himself like I want to be King of the Pirates,
1:07:27
I never really took that as like I want to be in charge.
1:07:29
I always just took that as like I want to be considered the best one.
1:07:32
I want to be the one that found the thing that everybody's after,
1:07:36
just to be able to say I did not because of anything that like,
1:07:42
I'm really going to get out of it. So at this point, you
1:07:50
guys, I love this so much. At this point, they start talking
1:07:56
about what they're gonna do while they wait for really to finish coating the ship,
1:08:00
and they have to split up in order to sort of not draw attention
1:08:04
to themselves and lie Low and Raley is like, I'm gonna give you guys
1:08:12
one of these cards. It's a Viver card. And when he says this
1:08:15
and is talking about it, he's outside of their bar slash home and he
1:08:24
has strapped to his body what looks like a huge, maybe like dropcloth or
1:08:33
something, a massive wide paint brush and like smaller detail paint brush. He's
1:08:43
got two like smaller paint brushes. And when I say massive, I mean
1:08:45
they are literally twice his height. And I am really crossing my fingers that
1:08:51
we get to see him using these brushes, because I don't even know how
1:08:56
that would work, Like what even does that look like? I would like
1:09:00
to know. I just this is the whole look of this is so crazy
1:09:04
huge. But yeah, this is when he says that it's going to take
1:09:10
three days, and the the whole crew is just sort of in disagreement about
1:09:18
how they're going to lay low. What Lufy of course wants to do,
1:09:21
which keeps coming up, is to go back to the amusement park, which
1:09:27
they insist is not a good idea, but I frankly can't even say that.
1:09:31
It seems like a worse idea than any other thing. Like they're just
1:09:38
out here walking around out in the open as it is anyway, Why is
1:09:43
that more dangerous than just wandering in the open the way they are, you
1:09:48
know, I don't know. It feels like either way or sort of courting
1:09:54
disaster. No, why what happens disaster will follow a straw. So they
1:10:02
leave Hatchie with Shocky because he is still resting, and all of them have
1:10:11
VIVER cards. And I think that it's like Zoro who says something about he's
1:10:16
the one who initially says they need to split up, and rightfully SANGI is
1:10:21
just like that feels like not a great idea coming from you in particular,
1:10:26
and I am hoping that, you know, I just can we fit him
1:10:33
with like a tracking device? Can we get him one of those like air
1:10:36
tags and just sort of put it around his neck. We jump from here
1:10:43
right before the episode ends to town and there's this fucking massive explosion and a
1:10:50
dude, Kiseru in his like pretty amazing yellow striped suit is stay in there
1:11:00
with the explosions still going behind him, and in the dub he sounds so
1:11:08
casual and says, I'm just gonna I'm gonna try and imitate hold on,
1:11:15
I'm just gonna like go back and just turn the sound on for just a
1:11:17
second, because I really want to get like he's riding on a cannonball into
1:11:25
the midst of these people. It's all pirates, I guess. So he
1:11:32
says, uh, this is Keiseru. Um, I'm arrived on site completely
1:11:45
without any particular inflection. The man literally rode a cannonball. And he didn't
1:11:51
when I say he wrote a cannonball, I know what I would be thinking,
1:11:57
which is that his butt is on the cannon ball. No, he
1:12:01
is standing on the cannonball like a giant exclamation mark and just lands amongst everybody
1:12:13
and then just starts like communicating with his own people. I am going to
1:12:17
go on record right now. I love Kiseru. He is a fucking weird
1:12:27
energy character. We had a lot of characters with wild designs and whatnot,
1:12:33
but his design is so ordinary in a lot of ways. Combined with the
1:12:41
like extremely chill vibe of the voice actor, combined with his dialogue itself.
1:12:50
I don't know what to think of this guy. He's so relaxed and so
1:12:55
like, I'm just you know, I'm here to have a good time.
1:12:58
No you're not. You're not here to have a good time. You're to
1:13:00
do like a job, but there's a real vibe of like no, you
1:13:04
know, like I'm having an I'm not a nice time. His whole face,
1:13:14
like the design of his face is so good. There's so many of
1:13:17
the other characters look so kind of I don't want to stay generic because it's
1:13:25
true, but it's like a lot of characters will have a sort of extreme
1:13:31
look to them that is still very cartoony. He's really real to me.
1:13:38
Mm hmm you yes, once again, you're really good at your chop um.
1:13:44
He is actually inspired one of the few characters from a real life Japanese
1:13:49
actor that really it ours and so he basically modeled at least a facial at
1:13:59
the facial structure of this character after so interesting. You clocked that right away
1:14:08
kind of You're like it looks around and it was like, yeah, he
1:14:13
so, do you know what the name of the actor is. I'm gonna
1:14:15
look at this person. Somebody share it in the discord. Yeah, if
1:14:19
somebody could share it, it would be great. I don't know it on
1:14:23
top of my head, but yeah, fun fact and yeah, he is
1:14:27
like a really kind of weird as you said, never really been seen in
1:14:33
this kind of capacity in this story, you know, and it is just
1:14:36
kind of like, man, you like, I'm gonna be honest. I
1:14:42
did not like him in the sense of like I was just like, use
1:14:46
my trouble. Yeah that's fair. Yes, I really like hmmm, but
1:14:54
yes, like I like it. You know. There's just something about his
1:15:00
voice and how like the way he speaks is like when truckers come in on
1:15:08
like CBE radios and they're just like just checking in, or like a pilot
1:15:14
who's coming down for a landing, you know, runway secure. We got
1:15:18
some weather going on. We'll be landing in thirty minutes and it's seventy two
1:15:23
degrees partially sunny. I hope you all have a pleasant time in Orlando.
1:15:28
Thanks for flying Delta. That's like what he sounds like to me. Wow,
1:15:36
I mean he already flew in, so you know, maybe you're you
1:15:40
also have a key nice. I don't know if that's what he sounds like
1:15:45
when you do the sub his voice made me totally dolts. They'll do a
1:15:49
really different vibe sometimes, but yeah, no, date actually did. Also
1:15:55
in the original he speaks really slowly and yes, is like chill. I
1:16:02
wonder if that's also based on the actor. Probably don't know that that part.
1:16:09
I don't know. Yeah, I mean, we don't have so much
1:16:14
time left, that's true. Oh my god. How about in this episode
1:16:20
I can give you, like I know this episode and it is like a
1:16:24
lot of characters that we seem I can tell you, I know on the
1:16:29
top of my head who is all here and what we see. So if
1:16:33
you want too, we can kind of do a quick lightning round. Let's
1:16:35
do that, because that really the episode is that it's just an opportunity to
1:16:41
jump from one of the pirates or admirals or whatever to the other and show
1:16:45
us what their powers are. So yeah, yeah, tell me tell me
1:16:49
so, I mean we already started with Kissaru and he lands there and gets
1:16:56
kind of shot, but nothing happens, and later on we see he's a
1:17:00
room walking up to Hawkins. So Hawkins the Matician has like his terro carts
1:17:08
out and gets kicked like he's a room. Yeah, like do you I
1:17:15
kis are basically say what's his powers? Over? Um, that's what it
1:17:19
feels like to get kicked at the speed of light? I think it's what
1:17:23
he says, yes, which I feel like that would just liquefier insids probably
1:17:30
like in real life. Probably, But I mean, I do you know
1:17:36
what his powers are? Like what would you what power would you give him?
1:17:41
Well, I'm not totally sure yet because like the shot that goes it
1:17:45
seems like through his head doesn't do anything. So I can't like, is
1:17:51
he moving, is he dodging it so fast that they can't see it happening,
1:17:59
or because you know, doing things at the speed of light. There's
1:18:04
a lot of room for interpretation for me on how that would work, because
1:18:09
you know, physically, like I don't get how where your limits are with
1:18:15
that? So is that how he dodged that bullet? Mm hmm. I
1:18:19
mean maybe we have seen like for example, ace or crocodile getting shot like
1:18:28
punched that and or smoker and it also didn't do anything to them. So
1:18:31
maybe it's that kind of power you know, where like yeah, where his
1:18:35
body is like insubstantial, yes, exactly, or he means made of light.
1:18:45
Maybe I don't know what um So I'm going a little bit creek.
1:18:54
So Hawkin gets Hawkanes get smashed into a wall, and he predicted I feel
1:18:58
like he predicted that he's not going to Die doesn't look like it right now,
1:19:03
but he seems to be kind of fine and even Kissaru at this moment.
1:19:09
It's like, that's weird. Yeah, we see we see like random
1:19:14
people kind of gai going up in flames or like getting pushed around. M
1:19:20
Did you get what was going on here or do you have any idea what's
1:19:24
going on? I do not get what's going on here. I don't know
1:19:27
if that has to do with hockey as well, like if that's what the
1:19:31
admirals are also working with, because like hockey has purposely not really been defined
1:19:38
at all yet, so I don't know what counts and what doesn't. And
1:19:43
basically, if I see something that I don't understand, that's what I'm going
1:19:46
to say. It is okay, I'm going to give you a little extra
1:19:51
insight. We see Hawkins says something like, oh, it is like even
1:19:59
though I have ten lives, it's your tough foe. And he drops some
1:20:04
straw mands on the ground, like little straw puppets, the kind of like
1:20:09
com out of his body. Um, maybe an idea what these little puppets
1:20:14
are? Are those like, uh, I'm wanted to say, like little
1:20:24
voodoo dolls mm hmmm, because he's working with Tarot, so he's got like
1:20:30
the woo woo thing going on already. You know, maybe, um so
1:20:34
maybe they're doing something. They're bad luck, they're I don't know. I
1:20:43
feel like I'm just sort of like wildly yeah it's okay, No, it's
1:20:48
it's just a quick glance at these powers that Um, I like most of
1:20:56
them to be honest, Like Hockey, he's just this whole magic and terror
1:21:01
esthetic. I liked it a lot. Um Then, also I would just
1:21:09
kind of wrap up this scene. Um, this huge monk comes down with
1:21:15
my god, yeah, Kuma is done also there and he and the monk
1:21:23
gts like gigantic. Yeah, what's the name of the bear again? Pipo
1:21:30
pepo? Then he fucking pooh? What is it? Pip poo Peppoo.
1:21:39
He kicks like do I say it wrong? Okay, I'm sorry, you
1:21:45
don't know, Okay, pep Pepper? Yeah I think it's Pepper right,
1:21:51
yes, um, but he kicks uh, oh my god, now I
1:21:58
forgot his Thank you man, I got Peppo in the brain. Um,
1:22:02
and it's just basically like what the fuck what are you made at it?
1:22:05
But yeah, then the monk. He is humongous. He's almost Have you
1:22:11
seen the Spider Verse movies, not the newer one like the first one.
1:22:18
I saw the first one. You remember how mister Fisk is designed where he's
1:22:23
just that giant rectangle with the little head in the middle of it. Yes,
1:22:27
that's kind of what the monks reminding me of here. He looks crazy
1:22:32
Squares only No. Yeah, he's got a very sort of hulk look to
1:22:39
him, kind of why yes, yeah. And then the last person in
1:22:44
this group to kind of show up is Drake x Drake, and he seems
1:22:51
to be um like he helps that, he goes against Kuma, and then
1:22:57
he sees Kisaru and he's kind of like, oh fuck, if I knew
1:23:00
you were here, I wouldn't be like and Kissa calls him rear at me
1:23:06
world, so he calls Drake by navy title basically and yeah, and what
1:23:19
Drake also says, it's not like he seems like to know, you know,
1:23:25
like they somehow also they have a history now, yes, yeah,
1:23:32
And I think the last guy, the other guy is just watching APU is
1:23:38
his name, Like this really weird looking guy on the roofs and with the
1:23:43
two elbows. Per yes, his teeth. I think it's just supposed to
1:23:48
be that his teeth are set at a strange angle so that there's spaces between
1:23:53
them at the top but it looks like piano keys because it's like the white.
1:23:58
But then up towards the gum wine are these like black spaces that look
1:24:01
like the flats, you know. And I kept being like, what is
1:24:05
with this guy? He's so unpleasant looking. I really do not like anytime
1:24:10
he's on screen. I don't like his energy, I don't like the voice
1:24:13
of the voice actor. I don't like his design. The two elbows is
1:24:17
also just so off putting, Like, yes, it is weird, but
1:24:24
he's just basically like I just want to see what happens, Like there's a
1:24:28
chaos vibe to him of definitely no like from like designing wise, I have
1:24:35
to say he is definitely my least favorite out of these like new pirates that
1:24:41
we get to know here. You know, he's like, I'm just like,
1:24:44
h get off screen, yeah agree? So yes, um so we
1:24:51
do get little flashbacks to Bonnie, who there's a marine there who's just confused
1:25:00
because there are only babies and old people around. Um and maybe she did
1:25:06
something. Maybe, Oh man, I forgot about this whole thing, because
1:25:14
she made herself small when she ran up to Zoro to stop him from being
1:25:21
killed, So maybe she can turn people into Like I thought, she just
1:25:30
shrunk herself, like physically shrunk her size and Zoro didn't get a great look
1:25:36
at her and was just like, oh, she's just a kid because she
1:25:41
was the right size. But now I'm thinking that he that she can actually
1:25:45
like age up or aged down people, and that was what she was doing
1:25:53
there, and she when she aged herself down, she just looked the same
1:25:56
basically mostly, but being able to do that to different people other than herself,
1:26:03
that's really really weird. Like that's not exactly super useful in combat in
1:26:13
like in the way that you think about fighting, but also if you can
1:26:17
just age somebody down to where they're a baby again, that just ends the
1:26:23
fight. So it is useful in combat in that sense. It's just a
1:26:28
very specific thing that you're trying to do. I would just like to stay
1:26:32
for the record that I would like to meet her, and do you know
1:26:39
a thing or two for myself. I wouldn't mind Benjamin buttoning a little bit.
1:26:46
Yeah, some little self care, you know, yeah, exactly,
1:26:49
this is a treat well and the other person we kind of get the Lowso
1:26:56
look at is of God. I hate it's his name, gang, Gang,
1:27:00
bitch or BESHI like this al Capone looking guy. Yeah, and I
1:27:08
forgot about I just think of him as Capone in my head. We could
1:27:12
just go with that. Yeah, that's fine. I don't like his normal
1:27:15
name, like that's no good phonetics to it. Um that he has like
1:27:23
people coming out of him. M I find this weird, like like I'm
1:27:30
comfortable real, you know, like I don't like you know, when you
1:27:39
are watching One Piece and you say I find this weird, that ship must
1:27:45
be really fucking weird, because all this show is is one weirdo after another
1:27:53
doing shit that's really like, oh, completely unhinged basically. So yeah,
1:28:01
I he makes a sort of like circle around himself that I'm trying to like
1:28:11
watch the way that this goes down, because exactly the order in which it
1:28:16
happens. There's a point where they're firing at him, and then there's a
1:28:20
bunch of smoke, and then all of a sudden we've got people like not
1:28:28
only do they come out of him, but it seems like, let's see
1:28:33
here it is, look at his stomach, there's something coming out. We've
1:28:36
got all these people on horseback, so he produces horses also. Somehow I
1:28:51
really appreciate that. One of the marines just yells, oh, come on,
1:28:55
that's ridiculous. Yes, yes, there it is. But yeah,
1:29:01
they come and like run these guys down. And I didn't really get a
1:29:05
great look at him, but it seemed like he, like all of the
1:29:11
people on horseback, looked different. It's not because initially I had thought he
1:29:16
made copies of himself, but then when you see them, they are all
1:29:20
really distinctive, and they all a lot of them have suits on. There's
1:29:25
a couple of guys who look a little bit more like cowboys, and he's
1:29:30
got like a trap door in his stomach that they apparently jumped out of.
1:29:36
So he just was holding them in there and didn't really do any of the
1:29:43
fighting himself. He just summoned them and stood there. Which that's really the
1:29:47
life, that's the way to live, you know. That's what what's his
1:29:53
name, Moria want? It's about the yeah, true, And they've kind
1:29:58
of round about way. Yeah, so let me think we have all of
1:30:05
the rookies kind of we see again law and kid fighting Kumam and then like
1:30:15
we also see the straw Hats encountering him, like encounter, Yeah, and
1:30:21
Lufy I keep forgetting like he was not conscious, so he doesn't get who
1:30:27
this guy is, and the straw Hats are like, are you kidding me?
1:30:30
This fucking guy? And Lucy's literally just like what who's that? And
1:30:34
I just keep forgetting. This always happens with him, because you know,
1:30:38
that's how it always has to go in a lot of the stories is that
1:30:41
Lufy gets separated from everybody and winds up like put down, out of the
1:30:45
main fight for a little while. So oftentimes there will be a thing that
1:30:50
he doesn't even like he wasn't there for or wasn't didn't see um But I
1:30:57
had forgotten about Kuma because I had sort of thought Lufi was still fighting Maria
1:31:03
in his like superbody when Kuma showed up, but Kuma didn't reach them yet.
1:31:11
Kuma was dealing with pirona excuse me? So yeah, And for his
1:31:20
part, Zoro catches sight of Kuma and is like, something's weird about this
1:31:25
guy, Like, you know, he remembers what he was like last time,
1:31:29
and he's thinking he doesn't really seem the same. And I have no
1:31:31
idea what to make of that if, like, if the guy is a
1:31:35
robot, basically, it could just be that he's just a completely rebuilt It
1:31:42
could be that this is a second robot that looks like him, but isn't
1:31:45
the one that Zoro interacted with. I don't know, but I thought it
1:31:50
was really interesting that he picked up on something being different. Yeah, it
1:31:58
is going to beating fisting. Yeah, I don't cannot just ask you cruick
1:32:06
prediction or like, no idea what's going to happen or like, because it
1:32:11
is sad it ready needs three days to finish days. So what we do
1:32:20
I do not know. I have to say now, I do not think
1:32:27
going to the amusement park is the right thing to do, just for the
1:32:30
record. But the only thing that I can think of is like hiding under
1:32:35
the tree roots, because that's the only place that we've seen where you're kind
1:32:41
of sheltered and out of sight. Otherwise, it's pretty open on the island
1:32:46
surface, and it doesn't seem like there's much vegetation to hide behind. There's
1:32:51
not a lot of shrubs and stuff. It's just like flat lawn and roots.
1:32:57
So if you're wanting to literally hide, that was like the only place
1:33:00
to go. But I don't know they could hide in buildings. I guess.
1:33:04
I just they're in the middle of the fight now. I just don't
1:33:08
know how much hiding is going to be their tactic at this point. So
1:33:13
yeah, I don't have much of a prediction. I'm afraid. Oh that's
1:33:17
fine, like keeps it also interesting? True? All right, Well,
1:33:26
is there anything else you want to say before we wrap it up about the
1:33:30
episodes? No, I don't think so. I'm excited to see your reactions,
1:33:35
reactions to what will come and your commentary on it. And yeah,
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it all one word? No, it's all one world. It's okay,
1:34:00
one okay, okay, cool? All right, Well, thank you so
1:34:06
much for joining me. It was delightful. It's always fun to have some
1:34:11
company for one of these. And I'm sorry to be over time and goodbye,
1:34:16
it's okay. I started late also because of dogs, so that is
1:34:20
inevitably my fate lately. Um and everybody listening, hope you're enjoying the coverage
1:34:27
and we'll see you soon with a new one. Then to loom of.
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