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Joe Rogan Experience 2457 Michael Malice · Bedtime Stories

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  Speaker 1: The Joe Rogan Experience.
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  Speaker 2: Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day.
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  Speaker 3: So, can we, can, what are you doing?
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  Speaker 1: What do you mean?
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  Speaker 3: Your face.
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  Speaker 1: It's, I have carprosy sarcoma.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, I didn't know. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: No, I just wanted to have a fun look. It's
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  Speaker 1: my 10th time.
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  Speaker 3: And what is a Lichtenstein? Is that what you said?
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  Speaker 1: Roy Lichtenstein.
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  Speaker 3: Who's that? He's the, do you know who it is?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. You know the pictures. Pull up Drowning Girl. Jamie,
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  Speaker 1: pull it up. I get to say it. This guy.
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  Speaker 3: Who's a comic book artist?
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  Speaker 1: No, he's a pop artist. He drew comic books into
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  Speaker 1: paintings in the 60s. You've seen his stuff.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, I'm sure. Yeah. I have now. I've seen them
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  Speaker 3: in memes.
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  Speaker 1: Exactly.
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  Speaker 3: Like a man backhanding a woman?
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  Speaker 4: No.
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  Speaker 1: No?
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  Speaker 3: That's not the meme?
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  Speaker 4: No.
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  Speaker 3: No?
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  Speaker 1: No.
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  Speaker 3: Well, he's stepping on her hand right there.
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  Speaker 1: That's his hand. It's a guy's hand.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, it's a guy's hand.
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  Speaker 1: It's a cop, I think.
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  Speaker 3: It's a feminine man. Oh, Jeff, I love you too,
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  Speaker 3: but okay. The dots, I get it.
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  Speaker 1: This was a lot of... What I wanted to do,
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  Speaker 1: which I couldn't do, I wanted to do an Uncanny
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  Speaker 1: Valley look.
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  Speaker 3: Hmm.
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  Speaker 1: And look like a mannequin with lifeless eyes and kind
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  Speaker 1: of like Lex, right? But that was a lot of money.
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  Speaker 3: Like CGI from 10 years ago.
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  Speaker 4: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So I just went with this.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: I was on.
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  Speaker 1: No, no. I was on Jordan's show last January 6th,
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  Speaker 1: and I had the QAnon shaman paint my face with
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  Speaker 1: his look. And I had a Russian fur hat, and
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  Speaker 1: I had the boots and everything. And Jordan Peterson had
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  Speaker 1: to sit and talk to me for three hours looking
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  Speaker 1: like a complete mental patient. And you're going to forget
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  Speaker 1: in a couple of minutes when someone's looking like this.
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  Speaker 1: But for anyone tuning in, it's just like, and it's
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  Speaker 1: just the clips go wide. it's a lot of fun.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, I know. I've done dozens of podcasts with Duncan.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, exactly.
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  Speaker 3: Clowns and furries.
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  Speaker 1: Why are they dressed like astronauts? Yeah, I think the internet,
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  Speaker 1: it's going in a.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Wait, isn't it saying like the face of evil? There's
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  Speaker 1: one that's... Yeah, the psychology of pure evil.
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  Speaker 3: Michael Malice. How is Jordan doing? Is he okay?
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  Speaker 1: I think he's doing better. I just talked to Michaela
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  Speaker 1: a couple of days ago. I think he's out of
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  Speaker 1: the woods. I don't know how much I'm allowed to
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  Speaker 1: say or what's my place to say.
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  Speaker 3: Can you say what happened to him?
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  Speaker 1: I don't really know. I think you'd have to talk
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  Speaker 1: to her. This is really something I don't know what
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  Speaker 1: I'm supposed to.
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  Speaker 3: He just keeps going through this series of ongoing health crises.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. And it's very... What bothers me a lot is
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  Speaker 1: how much glee people seem to have with this. And
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  Speaker 1: I think... It's like I was just saying a second ago.
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  Speaker 1: I think the Internet's going in a dark place. People.
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  Speaker 3: People are going in a dark place. The Internet's leading
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  Speaker 3: them there, but it's people.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I think it's like a snake eating its own tail,
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  Speaker 1: don't you think? I think when AI starts validating your preconceptions,
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  Speaker 1: I'm very scared about the near future.
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  Speaker 3: I'm very scared, too, because so many people are so
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  Speaker 3: easily led and so prone to whatever the ideology is
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  Speaker 3: at the moment, just full ideology. full-scale adopting it.
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  Speaker 1: I was on Gutfeld a couple months ago, and they
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  Speaker 1: were talking about how Sam Altman said Chad GPT is
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  Speaker 1: going to have erotica now. And everyone's like, well, what's erotica?
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  Speaker 1: They're making jokes. And I go, listen. I said, not
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  Speaker 1: that long ago, John Hinckley shot, in 1981, he shot
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  Speaker 1: President Reagan because he thought Jodie Foster was going to
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  Speaker 1: fall in love with him, you know, thereby turning her
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  Speaker 1: away from men forever, right? And I said, what happens
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  Speaker 1: when Chad GPT, you really hate Trump, but you really
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  Speaker 1: hate Joe Rogan, I really hate Fauci or Kamala Harris,
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  Speaker 1: and your AI friend is ginning you up being like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: they're terrible. There's 350 million people. You're saying out of those,
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  Speaker 1: 350 aren't going to try to do something?
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  Speaker 3: Right. I mean, they've already had Chachi PT talk people
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  Speaker 3: into killing themselves.
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  Speaker 4: I know.
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  Speaker 3: I know. Whether it's Chachi PT or whatever AI language model.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I am. And I don't see any breaks on
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  Speaker 1: this and it's happening. I think faster than we can,
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  Speaker 1: you know, the whole point of the paleo, not the
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  Speaker 1: whole point, but large part of the paleo lifestyle is,
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  Speaker 1: you know, our biology has not kept up with our technology.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 1: And that kind of makes sense in a food thing.
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  Speaker 1: Bush comes to shove processed food. You should avoid whole food.
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  Speaker 1: Natural food is probably better for you. That's just a
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  Speaker 1: good heuristic for anyone. But when you're talking about the mind.
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  Speaker 1: You know, people argue are human beings basically good, human
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  Speaker 1: beings basically bad. I think human beings are basically animals,
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  Speaker 1: and animals can be enormously collaborative and wonderful and work together,
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  Speaker 1: even across species. You see these videos of like a
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  Speaker 1: dog saving a cow or whatever it is. But animals
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  Speaker 1: are also, I need to tell you, you know, there's
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  Speaker 1: that chimp in all of us. And when that mob
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  Speaker 1: starts fomenting, like people want blood and they love it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you also get all this, powerful reinforcement from other
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  Speaker 3: people in the group to tell you that you're doing
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  Speaker 3: the right thing and they support you.
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  Speaker 1: And if you, the thing with the Epstein stuff online
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  Speaker 1: is just really kind of like, I remember five minutes ago, right.
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  Speaker 1: For the, for the, the blue pill people on COVID,
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  Speaker 1: if you don't care about COVID as much as I do,
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  Speaker 1: and if you aren't informed as COVID as much as
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  Speaker 1: I am, you want to kill grandma. Right. Like that's
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  Speaker 1: you're told this explicitly.
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  Speaker 3: Your kids should be taken away from you. Should be
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  Speaker 3: banned from society. Right.
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  Speaker 1: And my buddy, Lou Perez, who's a great comic, he
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  Speaker 1: had a great tweet. He goes, if you don't have COVID,
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  Speaker 1: you can't spread COVID. I can't give it to you
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  Speaker 1: just because I'm a bad person.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 1: But that was the mindset. And now there's so much.
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  Speaker 1: There's three million Epstein docs. If you are not as
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  Speaker 1: invested as some people, you are a kid toucher. You're
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  Speaker 1: covering for them. You want this to happen. You're complicit
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  Speaker 1: retroactively somehow.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And I can't make heads or tails of it. I
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  Speaker 1: had Luke Rakowski on my show who's been a conspiracy.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not saying in a negative way. Conspiracy guy for
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  Speaker 1: a very long time. He spoke with Alex. He broke
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  Speaker 1: it down. Then I had Michael Tracy on my show.
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  Speaker 1: And he said, look, a lot is hysteria. I don't
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  Speaker 1: know who is right, who is wrong. But if I
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  Speaker 1: have any kind of skepticism, I am somehow wanting children
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  Speaker 1: to be abused. It's insane.
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  Speaker 3: Well, it's also it's like so much of it is cryptic. Like,
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  Speaker 3: we don't necessarily understand what they were talking about.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 3: And if you say... Like, what's beef jerky?
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  Speaker 1: Here's the thing. It's obviously kids. It's not just that
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  Speaker 1: it might be kids or probably... It's obvious. And if
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  Speaker 1: you're denying that jerky is obviously kids, you're denying that
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  Speaker 1: people are children. I'm not denying people are children. I'm
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  Speaker 1: just saying, what if it's heroin? What if it's weapon?
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  Speaker 1: I haven't read all those emails. But the idea that
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  Speaker 1: it's definitely literally infants, it seems like I want to
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  Speaker 1: see some receipts.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it could be many things. I mean, it certainly
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  Speaker 3: is a code, which indicates, at least to me, that
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  Speaker 3: they were doing something they didn't want people to know about.
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  Speaker 1: And I remember with the Pizzagate stuff, I talked about
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  Speaker 1: this in my book, and you're right, I had to
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  Speaker 1: get through this through the legal, because there was an
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  Speaker 1: email where it's like, oh, the maps or the flags
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  Speaker 1: are really angry today. So they're obviously not talking about
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  Speaker 1: maps or flags. It was obviously about something. We don't
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  Speaker 1: know what. But to pretend that there was nothing there
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  Speaker 1: is also disingenuous. It's clearly code. But How do we
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  Speaker 1: know eating is not code also? Like eating jerky could
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  Speaker 1: be like beating off, right? Or it could be killing someone.
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  Speaker 1: But the idea that, no, the eating part is true.
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  Speaker 1: The jerky part is kids. And frankly, what bothers me
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  Speaker 1: is don't you want to hope that they're not eating kids?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Well, it's like people just want to know. And if
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  Speaker 3: they already were and have been doing it for a
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  Speaker 3: long time, that seemed– outrageous before a gigantic ring was
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  Speaker 3: exposed where there really was a sex trafficker who was
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  Speaker 3: compromising people and really was doing it at the behest
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  Speaker 3: of at least an intelligence agency, whether it's ours or
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  Speaker 3: the Israelis or whoever it is.
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  Speaker 1: Or the Russians.
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  Speaker 3: A lot of people want to say it's the Russians.
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  Speaker 3: Is there any validity to the Russian thing? I have
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  Speaker 3: no idea.
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  Speaker 1: The reason I said the Russians is because I was
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  Speaker 1: on Drudge and the headline was Epstein was Russian operative.
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  Speaker 1: So it was presented on Drudge, don't take my word
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  Speaker 1: for it, as, oh, there's the receipts. This is why
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  Speaker 1: I'm saying there's Mossad connections with him, obviously, especially with Jelaine.
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  Speaker 1: CIA is a no-brainer, because why didn't they bag this
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  Speaker 1: guy for years? I talked to Kurt Metzger about this,
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  Speaker 1: broadly speaking, and he makes the point, these are all interconnected.
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  Speaker 1: This idea that we're going to separate out the CIA
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  Speaker 1: from MI6, they're buddies with each other. And frankly, that's,
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  Speaker 1: in many cases, a good thing. You want to be
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  Speaker 1: working with other countries if you have international connections. trafficking
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  Speaker 1: or terrorism or crimes, but I can't even finish the sentence.
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  Speaker 3: Right, right. No, but you're honest. That's why. Now, the
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  Speaker 3: Russian thing, is there anything that makes sense to you
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  Speaker 3: to that? What is this going on here? New documents
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  Speaker 3: show Justice Department documents mention Russia thousands of times, Vladimir
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  Speaker 3: Putin over a thousand times, reflecting extensive Russia-related communications and
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  Speaker 3: contacts in Epstein's networks. Emails, travel records indicate. Okay, so
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  Speaker 3: there's real something to it. Epstein made multiple trips to Russia,
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  Speaker 3: obtained business visas, had scouts there recruiting young Russian women
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  Speaker 3: for him, of course, similar to his operations elsewhere. The
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  Speaker 3: files describe Epstein cultivating ties with Russian political and business elites,
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  Speaker 3: acting as a facilitator in deals and introductions, not just
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  Speaker 3: sexual encounters. Epstein repeatedly sought a meeting or back channel
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  Speaker 3: communications with President Vladimir Putin, at times suggesting he had
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  Speaker 3: advice or insight to offer about dealing with Donald Trump.
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  Speaker 3: He had documented ties to at least one former Russian official.
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  Speaker 3: with a background in the FSB, whom he used to
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  Speaker 3: gather information on a woman he claimed was trying to
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  Speaker 3: extort his business partners. Well, for sure you're going to
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  Speaker 3: have that. You've got a bunch of Russian hookers that
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  Speaker 3: you're bringing over there. Some of them are going to
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  Speaker 3: try to extort you.
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  Speaker 1: Putin was ex-KGB. The KGB for decades, for like almost
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  Speaker 1: a century, was blackmailing Americans. This is one of the
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  Speaker 1: big reasons why there were restrictions against gays because if
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  Speaker 1: you were gay at a time when it was socially
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  Speaker 1: unacceptable and the Russians found out about it, they flipped you.
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  Speaker 1: Because they would sit you down and they'd be like, look,
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  Speaker 1: we know we're going to out you or you're going
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  Speaker 1: to play ball. And in those situations, you're going to
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  Speaker 1: play ball. This is a huge scandal.
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  Speaker 3: For a long time. And that's a big, there's a lot.
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  Speaker 3: there's a large percentage, I don't know what the population is,
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  Speaker 3: of these undercover gay politicians. There's a lot.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, the bureaucrats, like people working for Johnson and FDR,
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  Speaker 1: this was a thing, and they would know. And they
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  Speaker 1: would have honeypots. It wouldn't be hard at that time.
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  Speaker 3: Right. And for men, it's so easy to get us. Like, God,
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  Speaker 3: it must be hard to get women.
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  Speaker 1: How would you blackmail a woman?
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  Speaker 3: I mean, how do you trick them into fucking some
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  Speaker 3: guy they shouldn't be fucking, and why would anybody care? See,
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  Speaker 3: no one cares. Like if a woman has an affair
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  Speaker 3: on her husband and has sex with some hot guy
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  Speaker 3: on an island, everybody's like, you go, girl.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Stella got her groove back.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Stella got her groove back.
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  Speaker 1: How would you– if I want to– okay, let's walk
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  Speaker 1: through this. If there's a CIA lady and I want
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  Speaker 1: to flip her, how do.
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  Speaker 3: I– You've got to get her to fall in love
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  Speaker 3: with you.
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  Speaker 1: No, or you've got to get her husband to cheat.
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  Speaker 1: Or go threaten her kids. You got to threaten her kids.
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  Speaker 1: Threaten the kids. But that's a hard one.
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  Speaker 3: But that's a different thing than getting her to do
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  Speaker 3: something that she shouldn't have done out of lust.
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  Speaker 1: How do you blackmail a woman?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. That's probably why a lot of women are in trouble.
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  Speaker 1: Why they are in trouble?
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  Speaker 3: Aren't. Yeah, they aren't. Right. Because I would imagine you
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  Speaker 3: would want them to. There's plenty of women politicians you'd
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  Speaker 3: want to compromise. I mean, they did get... Stacey Plaskett,
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  Speaker 3: she was cooperating with Epstein, going back and forth during
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  Speaker 3: Trump's administration.
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  Speaker 1: Did you see also Kristen Sinema, that lawsuit?
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  Speaker 3: Oh, no, no, no. I didn't see it.
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  Speaker 1: So she was the senator from Arizona. She was a centrist,
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  Speaker 1: and of course they ran her out of town. And
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  Speaker 1: she broke up a marriage, basically. And in North or
• 12:21
  Speaker 1: South Carolina, where she's being sued, you can be liable
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  Speaker 1: for damages if you're like the side piece.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, I've seen that. And in the lawsuit, it's- That's
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  Speaker 3: a crazy law. I know. That's a bitch-ass law.
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  Speaker 4: I know.
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  Speaker 1: And you're suing a senator. And I believe the filing
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  Speaker 1: completely because the filing said he had PTSD. So she
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  Speaker 1: was offering to give him psychedelics to help him heal,
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  Speaker 1: which I'm sure she did. And basically they just started
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  Speaker 1: a relationship. He left the wife. And it's like this
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  Speaker 1: is unfortunate, but it happens. But she's facing damages now.
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  Speaker 3: That's so wild that that's a law. Yeah. Like what
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  Speaker 3: if the person was on the way out anyway?
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  Speaker 1: That's his argument, I'm sure.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I'm sure.
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  Speaker 1: No, but the case, oh no, we were a loving couple.
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  Speaker 1: We never had any problems. And Sanima shows up and
• 13:08
  Speaker 1: now look at me.
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  Speaker 3: How is that not the man's fault?
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  Speaker 1: I don't, I don't, I think it's probably both. Well, no,
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  Speaker 1: she's suing cinema. She's not suing the guy, I don't think.
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  Speaker 3: That's so crazy. Yeah. What a stupid fucking law.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, North or South Carolina?
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  Speaker 3: There's some of them old school laws that are so dumb.
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  Speaker 3: How is that a law that people have to be together?
• 13:30
  Speaker 3: People change their minds on people all the time. They
• 13:33
  Speaker 3: don't want to be with someone anymore. You meet someone
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  Speaker 3: you really like, and you go, I can't imagine living
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  Speaker 3: the rest of my life without this person, and I've
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  Speaker 3: been trapped in this fucking horrible marriage. I'm out. And
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  Speaker 3: then that person gets sued.
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  Speaker 1: She had some other funny thing about like, no, no,
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  Speaker 1: the guy texted her, like, I think it was fuck
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  Speaker 1: the military. And she writes back only the hot ones.
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  Speaker 1: So she got all the texts out of his phone.
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  Speaker 3: That's funny. It's funny. It's a joke.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 1: But I also, it's like, I think it's when the
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  Speaker 1: feminists talk about the kind of misogyny here. I think
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  Speaker 1: there is a bit of misogyny, that you're blaming the
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  Speaker 1: woman and you're not blaming the guy.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah. For that, like the lawsuit, that's crazy. That
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  Speaker 3: is such a bitch-ass lawsuit. North Carolina is one of
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  Speaker 3: a handful of states that allow jilted spouses to sue
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  Speaker 3: for alienation of affection.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just her.
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  Speaker 3: To seek damages from a third party responsible for the
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  Speaker 3: breakup of their marriage. You should only be able to
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  Speaker 3: pay them in tissues. Ha ha! You should pay them
• 14:32
  Speaker 3: in just crates and crates of tissues. Oh, you get $ 500, 000
• 14:37
  Speaker 3: worth of tissues. Just bring up fucking semis filled with tissues.
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  Speaker 1: I just think it's so salacious.
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  Speaker 3: Stupid.
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  Speaker 1: We shouldn't need to know this.
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  Speaker 3: Well, even if we do know it, the law itself
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  Speaker 3: is fucking preposterous. Alienation of affection. People decide they don't
• 14:56
  Speaker 3: like people all the time. That's why divorce exists.
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  Speaker 5: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: And one of the reasons divorce exists is because people
• 15:01
  Speaker 3: find someone they like more. And they go, oh, I
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  Speaker 3: fucked up. I have to get out of this marriage.
• 15:05
  Speaker 3: I'm in love with this other person.
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: And you don't always have to get divorced. There's plenty
• 15:08
  Speaker 1: of marriages that survive shit like this.
• 15:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true, too.
• 15:12
  Speaker 1: What's the counter? That, fuck you, you're a bitch? Like,
• 15:14
  Speaker 1: he doesn't like you anymore?
• 15:16
  Speaker 3: But the lawsuit thing is, Curly, you can get money
• 15:18
  Speaker 3: for that? Kristen Sinema has to pay this lady money
• 15:21
  Speaker 3: because she sucked that guy's dick?
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: I think she's suing for a lot.
• 15:25
  Speaker 3: How much?
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: Do you know what the damages are, Jamie?
• 15:27
  Speaker 3: Well, you go high just to settle.
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but the fact that there's no ceiling. I don't
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: know what the ceiling is. I'm not a North Carolina attorney,
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: but it's not cheap. It's like, I think the side piece,
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: she's not a hoe. She's basically paying the wife alimony.
• 15:42
  Speaker 3: Oh, my God. It's real money?
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah. It's no joke, does it say?
• 15:46
  Speaker 3: Who would fucking... $.
• 15:47
  Speaker 4: 75, 000 in damages.
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: That's it?
• 15:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 15:52
  Speaker 5: She gave $ 9, 000 to a man she's accused of.
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: Wait, if it's 75 grand, she would have paid it
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: to shut her up.
• 15:58
  Speaker 3: Maybe she just doesn't want to out of principle.
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: I don't know. It's got to be more than 75 grand.
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: There's no way. You're a senator. You're just going to.
• 16:07
  Speaker 3: Maybe. Maybe because most people have the reaction that we're having. Like,
• 16:12
  Speaker 3: no one's outraged. No one's angry.
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the response is that.
• 16:17
  Speaker 3: Oh, that's it. Alienation of affection.
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: That's it.
• 16:20
  Speaker 3: Nicknamed the homewrecker law and is seeking $ 75, 000 in damages
• 16:24
  Speaker 3: per her lawyers. She argued that a complainant. in a
• 16:27
  Speaker 3: complaint that Sinema engaged in numerous unlawful acts with her ex-husband, including,
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: but not limited to, having conversations with him. That's unlawful?
• 16:36
  Speaker 3: Meeting him under emotionally and physically romantic and sexual circumstances.
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: having sexual encounters with him and encouraging him to leave
• 16:44
  Speaker 3: his wife.
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: She took him to some concert together. I think it
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: was like.
• 16:48
  Speaker 5: They said they went to a bunch of concerts.
• 16:49
  Speaker 3: They went to Coppola.
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: I think it was like Dave Matthews.
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: Green Day, YouTube, a bunch of stuff. Yeah. Well, is
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: that a physically romantic and sexual encounter? Is that what
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: that is?
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: Well, I think it's romantic.
• 16:59
  Speaker 3: Put that back up, please.
• 17:00
  Speaker 5: I was going to do those concerts.
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: I mean, the lawsuit alleges that in the fall of 2023,
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: when Sinema's then head of security resigned, the head disclosed
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: to Matthew Amell... concerns that Sinema was having sexual relations.
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: What a bitch-ass security guard. Sexual relations with other security members.
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: The security head urged Matthew Amell to leave, but Amell refused,
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: citing the job's financial security.
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: I love the idea, like, you don't want this gig,
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: she'll fuck you.
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: She's fucking her security guards.
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, more power to her, I say.
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: She's a wild bitch. While on the job, Matthew Amell
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: had at one point informed his ex-wife, according to her complaint,
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: That should he and Sinema be together on a work
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: trip to Napa Valley, California, it would have appeared as
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: if they were on a romantic getaway. Huh? 2024, Heather
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: Amell discovered that Sinema frequently messaged her ex-husband on Signal.
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: which included a picture of the former senator wrapped in
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: a towel and a suggestion that he bring MDMA. Yeah,
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: let's go, Kristen. The drug commonly known as molly or
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: ecstasy to a rope work trip so that Sinema could
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: guide him through a psychedelic experience. Wink, wink. In March
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: of 2024, Matthew Emmett Ford informed his then ex, his
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: then wife, that while he was serving as Sinema's security
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: at an event, the former senator was having, getting handsy
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: and that she held his hand and touched him. According
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: to the complaint, Matthew Emil expressed that he didn't know
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: how to get out of the situation without offending Sinema.
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: She was also the first bisexual member of the Senate ever.
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: What a good kid.
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: So you know she's a freak.
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: What a good kid. Molly, towels, pictures. Let's go.
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: She's got my vote.
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: I'm voting for again. She should run for president.
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: Sinema for president.
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: Let's go, Sinema. Come on. She's a centrist. That's what
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: America needs. You want a women president. Let's go. Let's
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: get a freak in the office.
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: I think we have a freak in the office right now.
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: He struggled to admit to the affair, the complaint says,
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: but expressed that he wanted a divorce.
• 19:01
  Speaker 5: Oh.
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: He struggled to admit to the affair, but expressed that
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: he wanted a divorce. After a November work trip, Heather
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: and Matthew Amell separated. Her complaint alleges that her ex-husband
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: and Sinema remained romantically involved. Sinema and Matthew Amell both
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: appeared at a forum in October. Are they still together?
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: I can't. Those don't last.
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: It's only six states.
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: Chicks get bored once they win. Once they win and
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: they get you, I'm like, eh, who's next? Who the
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: hell knows? Yeah, it's bored.
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  Speaker 1: The security guard said it explicitly. She's boning all the
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: security guards.
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: She's a freak.
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, more power to her.
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, like look, we don't have any problem with men
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: that do that.
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: I think we do.
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: Well, we do now. Some people do. I don't. There's
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: two types of people that want to be leaders. War
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: mongers and pussy hounds. I prefer the pussy hounds. Don't
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: leave your wife alone with them But I prefer them
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: because at least they're just trying to get sex They're
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: not trying to blow up the world and conquer and
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: like they want to be Genghis Khan.
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: Is it your position that Lindsey Graham is not a
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: pussy hound?
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: It is my position that Lindsey Graham is allergic to
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: pussy Yeah. Wait, are they? Remember when they asked him
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: if he was going to run for president? He ran. Yeah,
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: but he's single. Yeah. And what about a first lady?
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: He's like, maybe I'll have a bunch of first ladies.
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: Oh, my. Did he say that?
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: He said something along those lines.
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: I remember.
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: Which is never something a man would say who's into women.
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: Barbara Mikulski, who was the senator for Maryland for many years,
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: who was like 411 Hobbit creature, clearly gay, no disrespect
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: to her. She was asked about it. And she turns
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: to the guy next to her and is like, hey,
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: good looking. It was something like that. It was so
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: cringe and awkward.
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so. What did Lindsey Graham say about having many
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: first ladies?
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: Oh, my God.
• 22:00
  Speaker 5: He mentioned his sister as someone who could fill in
• 22:03
  Speaker 5: for the role, it says.
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: Oh, okay.
• 22:04
  Speaker 5: He would have a, quote, unquote, rotating first lady.
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: Because, like, what, Dolly Madison did that. Like, there was
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: one of the first early founding fathers was a widower.
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: So the daughter.
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: Rotating his sister first and then rotating first lady. What
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: year was this when he was running? 2015.
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: Do you remember the thing I remember about his campaign
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: is Trump had a rally and he gave out Lindsey
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: Graham's phone number.
• 22:30
  Speaker 4: Right?
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: He did.
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: Oh, you don't remember this. So this is the best part. No, no, this,
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: this is so insane. So Trump is like, cause Lindsay
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: would call him for campaign donations. And Trump's like, if
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: you guys don't agree, let's give him a call. He
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: holds up the pay goes, uh, three, four, five, blah, blah, blah.
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: And Lindsay.
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 22:47
  Speaker 5: Look at that face.
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: Look at his face. What, what is this world we're
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: living in?
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: No, no, no, but hold on. It gets even better.
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: So Lindsay, like, how do I reclaim the narrative? Lindsey
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: filmed a video of him taking his phone and breaking
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: with the hammer. And I'm like, but you still have
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: the same number. You just broke your own phone. You're
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: not trolling Trump at all.
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: It's like if I- You just broke a device.
• 23:11
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: You could have gone to Verizon and your number switched.
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: You fucking moron. If you give out my license plate
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: and I wreck my own car, I'm not trolling you.
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: I'm trolling me.
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: I'm like, does no one realize this doesn't make any sense?
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: It was so crazy.
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: Everyone's so performative.
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: Is there someone who's a warmonger? Well, Putin's a pussy hound.
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: Is he, though?
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah. He's more of a warmonger.
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: But he's both. Did you not see with the topless girls?
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: Oh, really? Here he goes. He's throwing it in the blender.
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: He's hitting it with a hammer, a golf ball. Oh,
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: lightning on fire. Oh, let me see that swing. Let
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: me see that bad show. He put Red Bull in
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: with the phone? What's that about?
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: I think it's gas lighter fluid, no?
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: He didn't even get through it. Oh, it is Red Bull.
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: Why is it Red Bull?
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: He hit it with a golf swing. He lit it
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: on fire. Like, this is so cringe.
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: But it doesn't make any sense.
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: He put it in a fucking... Bagel oven?
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: Is that pizza bagels?
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: Oh, my God. What's wrong with this dude?
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: But your number's the same.
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: What a silly bitch. That's back in the old flip
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: phone days, too. Yeah, 2015.
• 24:15
  Speaker 5: Wow.
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: He was still rocking a flip phone back then. No iPhone.
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: People are rocking them now again because of... surveillance things.
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: My friend Dave has one.
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: Does a flip phone help you?
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: I think so.
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: How so?
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I'd have to ask Dave.
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: You can still get all those text messages.
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: No, I think you're spending less time on the internet.
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: That's true. Yeah. But you could also just spend less
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: time on the internet. Yes.
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: That is also an option. I think that's a healthy option.
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: You could do it. I want to hear your thoughts
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: on this. So during COVID, there was a huge... amount
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: of time that everyone's spending online. Everyone's obsessed with COVID,
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: everyone's constantly agitated. And my concern is that the social media,
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: Mark Zuckerberg's job is to keep you on Facebook as
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: much as possible, right? All that data that they had
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: during COVID is still there. And I think all these
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: social media companies are still keeping us in a constant
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: state of agitation. So you're stuck watching these screens and
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: it's really doing harm and it's not getting better.
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: That's a fact. Okay, yeah. Yeah, that's a fact. Well,
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: isn't he testifying? They're testifying soon about whether or not
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: they set up their algorithms to harm children. They set
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: up their algorithms to addict children to their social media platform.
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: Well, you remember Elsagate?
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: Elsagate, yeah.
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: That was the whole thing.
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, explain that to people.
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: Well, Elsagate was this— I still don't think we have an answer.
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: People made these— they don't even know where it came from
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: other than overseas— there are these bizarre YouTube videos with
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: millions of views where it'd be like the Hulk, but
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: he's like sniffing kids' feet and Elsa's just doing like
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: putting in a cage, like bizarre things that is kind
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: of sexual, but not really. And you don't know what
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: the purpose is, but because they were like gaming the algorithm,
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: you know, YouTube, Trump got in trouble with this. When
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: Trump was sharing that video, the very end of it,
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: went to a Lion King video making fun of the Democrats.
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: There's that one second of the Obamas as apes from
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: the beginning. They cut there and it looked like he
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: was sharing that. It was just the next video that
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: was queued up. And it looks like Trump's general video
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: of the Obamas as apes on purpose.
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: Well, they're all in it in the same video. But
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: it was like Hillary was a warthog. Obama or Biden
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: was also an ape. And he was eating a banana.
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: Pritzker was the Lion King. And Trump came out as
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: a lion.
• 26:42
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: But the point is, I think what he posted, he
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: posted only the first second.
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: I don't think he posted it. Yes, he did. I
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: thought it was an intern.
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: Well, the point, I mean, it's from his account.
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: But someone reposted it.
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: That's what it was.
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: No, he reposted somebody else.
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: I think his intern reposted it.
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: But the point is, anyway, with Elsagate, kids start watching
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: one video and the algorithm just snags them. Yeah. And
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: one hour later, they're watching... completely deranged stuff.
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: The Elsagate thing was weird too because a lot of
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: it was like old cartoons and what people were saying
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: is that if your child, like say if you give
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: your child an iPad and it goes from one YouTube
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: video to the next and then suggests, those got lumped
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: in there and you would click on it and it
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: was all of a sudden like, Someone would get a
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: bottle broken over their head. There'd be blood everywhere. It
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: was really weird.
• 27:29
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: And it's like a Mickey Mouse cartoon.
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: And there was no utility to this.
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: Are those still available?
• 27:34
  Speaker 5: I'm looking at the Wikipedia says it's kind of, it's continued,
• 27:37
  Speaker 5: but it's switched from like the, it's whatever's popular at
• 27:40
  Speaker 5: the time for kids. So back then it was Frozen
• 27:41
  Speaker 5: or whatever. And now it's like Minecraft.
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: What are they doing though? Like why, why are they,
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: like what, why would they have these cartoon characters get
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: hit over the head with bottles and. Cause you remember
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: that one? Like a lot of them would, they would
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: get drunk and fall and break their head on a
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: fucking countertop or something. Or they'd be covered.
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: I think this was another one. They were covered in
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: dots for no reason. I'm like, I'm kidding. It was
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: just like, what is going on? Or they're eating weird stuff.
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: So does YouTube remove those videos? Because there's plenty of
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: violent videos on YouTube. Like, is it because they're, or
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: do they put like an age restriction on them?
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: I don't think they did because what's the age restriction?
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: There's nothing sexual. There's nothing.
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: Well, violence.
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: But some of them were just weird.
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Some of them were just weird.
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: Like lots of shots of feet.
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: Uh-huh. And there was a lot of ones where kids
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: got left alone with creeps.
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Cartoons. Very strange.
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: But there was also live action stuff.
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: Oh, really? Yes.
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: And it's just like, who are these people filming this?
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: And for what? I saw another one. There was this
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: channel which has millions of views for each video. And
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: it's things like turtles vomiting up fish, like dead fish,
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: like live action or dead fish coming from the ground
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: as if it's, I don't understand what the point of
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: this is.
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: Do you remember during Benghazi, they tried to blame the
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: attack on this video?
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: Oh my God.
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: You remember that?
• 29:05
  Speaker 4: Of course.
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: That was the propaganda was that there was some video
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: that no one had seen. Right. Like some terrible video.
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: Oh, that got everyone all riled up, right.
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that got the Muslims riled up, and that's why
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: they attacked.
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: And there was also— well, she was also blaming the 2016
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: election on ads on the dark web. It's like, how
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: many people on the dark web? Do you even know
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: what it is?
• 29:26
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: What are you talking about? Ads on the dark web
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: flipped the election. That's hilarious. That's insane. 50 incels. Right.
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: In a chat room.
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: But that was, she says this all the time, Hillary,
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: to this day.
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: Well, she just says it, you know? Like, she doesn't
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: have to be credible anymore. It's like, we just assume,
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: we just know that that kind of community, like, if
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: you're having a one-on-one conversation with her, just privately, and
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: she started talking like that, you'd be like, what are
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: you talking about? This doesn't make any sense.
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: Did you not see when she got clowned in Europe
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: this week?
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: I did, with the Czechoslovakian guy?
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah. It was funny.
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: It was very funny.
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: But the way she was interrupting, too. You want women
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: to have their rights taken away? Like what? That's not
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: what he's saying. He's literally talking about all this crazy shit,
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: these gender transitions. And people were really like they'd had
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: enough with the immigration. People don't know if you don't
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: be pretending that's not real. Like this way forward. Like
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: if the Democrats. want to have a way forward where
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: they connect with people, you got to admit that there
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: was some reason why people were responding the way they
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: did to a fucking open border, to men playing in
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: women's sports, to all this shit, gender transitions of children.
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: Like people were freaked out and not just fucking Republicans.
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: A lot of people.
• 30:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: Karen's a swing voter. Karen doesn't like this kind of stuff.
• 30:44
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: I don't know if you saw, did you see Nancy
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: Pelosi's retirement video? No. Well, you laugh, but Nancy Pelosi
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: is probably the smartest politician in Washington in terms of
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: being crafty. She knows how to fucking get a bill passed.
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: She knows how to make people walk the plank. So
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: she's retiring from Congress this year. She had this 10-minute
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: long video about saying goodbye to San Francisco. 10 minutes.
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: She talks about AIDS at length, right? Because obviously it
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: affected San Francisco. Doesn't mention the word gay once, even
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: in the context of AIDS. Doesn't mention LGBT. Doesn't mention
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: black people, people of color. She mentions how much she
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: loves going to church. St. Thomas of Assisi, and Veterans Day.
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: So I'm like, she knows what you're saying. You've got
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: to pivot and start talking to people about pocketbook stuff.
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: But then Gavin Newsom recently undid his, you know, he
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: backtracked with Charlie Kirk when he's just like, yeah, I
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: know about men and women's sports. And now he's doubling
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: down on trans kids, which is.
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: Is he really?
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. He just started doubling down.
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: God, how does he think that that's going to work now?
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: I think he thinks he's got to get through that primary.
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: Right, but does he not know that people are done? No.
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: Because I'm sure he has better polling than you or I.
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: And I'm sure.
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: Maybe I'm just naive about California.
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: Well, it's not California. It's the Democratic base who's going
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: to vote for him. You know, he's also killed his mom.
• 32:03
  Speaker 5: What?
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he did assist his mom. He bragged about it
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: to the Washington Post. You didn't know this?
• 32:08
  Speaker 4: No.
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: What was wrong with his mom, though?
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: I'm sure it was something awful, but when I hear
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: a politician... talking about something that personal that publicly, I
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: am not going to look at it through a positive vein.
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: And this maid stuff is in 14 states now. Did
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: you know this? Yeah.
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: Well, in Canada, it's off the hook.
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: You know, Kelsey Sharon, I've been talking to her about this.
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: She completely blew my mind. So first, it used to be,
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: because it's always, oh yeah, 55.
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: Long battle with breast cancer, deeply personal event. He is
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: described as a complex experience involving assisted suicide. The Washington
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: report Washington Post report and his memoir expressed deep grief
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: and remorse regarding her death.
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: Remorse is a very dark word in this context.
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: He was 34 and a San Francisco supervisor at the time.
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: But maybe it was his mom's decision and he helped her.
• 33:02
  Speaker 5: Sure.
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: But look, if you're dying of terminal cancer and your
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: body's rotting out, I feel like just like you put
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: a dog down. Like there's times where I think assisted
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: suicide is probably a good option if there's no hope
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: and you're just going to be in agony for months.
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: And there's times where people have gender dysphoria and it's
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: a good thing.
• 33:21
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: That's different.
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: Hold on. It's not. My point is people like Blair White,
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: Brianna Wu, you know, they have gender dysphoria. It's perfectly
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: appropriate to call them a she. You know, it's otherwise
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: very disturbing. Five minutes later, once it becomes a political issue.
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: It's anyone who just puts on a dress. So the
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: point that Kelsey has been going on with Canada is
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: now they're going after people who are depressed. They're going
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: after people who are disabled. They're going after kids. And
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: the darkest thing that's happening over there, which they're importing here,
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: is that old people are extremely expensive for the system.
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: If you have socialized health care, I don't know what
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: the number is. It's a huge number. Towards the end
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: of your life, you're racking up those bills. So there's
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: a huge incentive for that government to get you off
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: of their ledger. So now they're having this movement where
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: let's all get together and we're all going to go
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: kill grandma. Five minutes ago, if you don't wear the
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: COVID mask, you want to kill grandma, you're a bad person. Now,
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: if you don't want to kill grandma, you're a bad person.
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: You don't want to end this way. You were such
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: a strong person. Die with dignity, blah, blah, blah. It's
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: not always terminal stuff. And in Europe, they're having it
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: with teenagers who are depressed. And you know perfectly well,
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: everyone listening to this knows, it's not a slippery slope,
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: it's an elevator shaft.
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: This is the back door. Is it financial incentive?
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: It's a huge financial incentive. Think about it. If you're
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: old and you're $ 1, 000 a day and the government's paying it,
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: if I get rid of you, look how much I'm saving.
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: Oh, you don't want to be a burden to your family?
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: You don't want to have them sitting by your bedside?
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: Come on.
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: It's happening here. New York just passed it.
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: It's 14 states.
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: And New York passed it? New York just passed it.
• 35:03
  Speaker 4: Oh.
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: You see, Mondami is like, he's trying to figure out
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: a way to use his budget. His budget is higher
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: than the entire budget of the state of Florida, which
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: has three times more people.
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: No, it's not.
• 35:14
  Speaker 4: Is it really?
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: Yes, it is.
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: No way. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Look it up. The budget
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: for New York City is larger than the budget for
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: the state of Florida.
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: Holy, I did not know this.
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm pretty sure this is true. We should look
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: it up, but I was reading an article about it today.
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: Unless the article is completely full of shit. They were
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: saying that it's several billion dollars more for New York
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: City than it is for the entire state of Florida,
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: which has roughly three times as many people living in it.
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: Is that true, Jamie? I go back once a month
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: to do Gutfeld, and I can't believe I'm saying this
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: as a former New Yorker, but I like L.A. better
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: now than New York. Whoa. It hurts me physically to
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: say this.
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: What's wrong with New York now?
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: There's no.
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: Here it is. Eye-popping amount. Insider called Insanity is up
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: around $ 11 billion.
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: From the current year.
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: That's like 9% up. A record $ 127 billion budget proposal
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: on Tuesday. The socialist leader, city leader's plan includes a
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: whopping 9.5% proposed property tax hike. Holy crap.
• 36:20
  Speaker 5: 9.5% hike.
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: On New Yorkers, which he claims would be a last
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: resort while allocating another $ 1. 2 billion for migrants. Migrants.
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: What's the Florida budget, Jamie?
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: Scroll down a little.
• 36:40
  Speaker 5: Bit.
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 36:41
  Speaker 5: Wow.
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: Oh my God, it's the same. It's about the same.
• 36:43
  Speaker 5: Yeah, the New York one would have been that this year.
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's comparable.
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: Holy crap. So it's not three times more, whatever the
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: fuck it is, more? No, three times more people, right?
• 36:53
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: So that is triple per capita.
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, triple per capita. So the budget of Florida House.
• 37:00
  Speaker 4: Is $ 113.
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: 6 billion to $ 115 billion. And the New York proposal is... 127.
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: Billion.
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: So it is more.
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: Holy crap.
• 37:11
  Speaker 5: 10% more.
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: So New York City, their budget is more than the
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: entire state of California with three- Florida, Florida. Excuse me.
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: State of Florida with three million more people, or three
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: times the people.
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: Holy crap.
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: I can't even talk.
• 37:23
  Speaker 5: But for this year, it would be about the same.
• 37:25
  Speaker 5: Because if it's 11 million, that's 116. Sure. That's the same.
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: But the point is, it's still- Well, it says it's
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: up 11 billion from the current year.
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: It's still a proposal, though. He hasn't passed it.
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: Well, he's not. He's a fucking psychopath. The amount for
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: migrants is crazy. There should be zero dollars for illegal immigrants. Zero.
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: I don't think you can have zero, because if they're
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: going to be there, you have to feed them. You
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: have to do something with them. Like, literally, if- If
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: you don't feed them, they're gonna be robbing stores. Human
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: beings need food. What are you gonna do?
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: Get them jobs.
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: How are you gonna get a migrant a job?
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: Get them a job in Guatemala.
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: Wouldn't you rather give them food than a job? I
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: don't want them taking American citizens' jobs.
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: Well, the whole thing's a mess.
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: The whole thing's a mess, but the point is you
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: can't just throw them away.
• 38:11
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: That's the problem.
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: Unless you're gonna remove them from the country.
• 38:14
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: Unless you're removing... Even if you want to put them
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: in jail, that's not cheap.
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: Right. That costs a lot of money. Right. So what
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: are you gonna do?
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: I remember Piers Morgan... had this amazing interview with my
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: favorite British politician, Diane Abbott, who is really special needs, clearly.
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: And in the UK, you have the government, which is
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: members of parliament from the majority party. And then you
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: have the minority party, which has a shadow cabinet. So
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: if there's a secretary of state, Rubio of the Democrats
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: would have a Democrat equivalent who would deal with those issues.
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: And she was their shadow home secretary, which deals with immigration.
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: And he goes, Diane, if the Labour government wins the
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: next election... and you have illegal immigrants here, what do
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: you do with them? Do they get to stay? Do
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: you have amnesty? Are you going to deport them? And
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: he goes, she goes, Piers, the Tory system is not
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: fit for purpose.
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: It's terrible.
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: We'll be more efficient and more fair. And he goes, right, gotcha.
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: There's an illegal immigrant. Do they get to stay or
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: are they deported? I've explained this to you. And it
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: was just this amazing thing.
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: Circular.
• 39:18
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: I love her.
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: How much money do they give to poor New Yorkers?
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: Oh, it's going to be a lot.
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: But is it the same amount?
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: Look at this.
• 39:29
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: Look at this. Okay. So $ 7. 54 billion to fill cliffs
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: across six major unbudgeted needs.
• 39:40
  Speaker 5: They haven't raised property taxes there in over 20 years.
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: Is that true?
• 39:43
  Speaker 5: That's what this says. It's 25 years since September.
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: Well, the property taxes are high. I'm just, just a point.
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: But I understand they haven't raised it, but they shouldn't
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: raise it.
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: Because it goes with, as property values go up, the
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: percent's going to go up, the revenue is going to
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: go up as well.
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: Exactly. There's no reason to raise it. But like this
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: idea that they haven't done it so they should do
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: it is crazy.
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: Oh, look at that. So if your condo is 120 grand,
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: which is no condo is going to be that cheap,
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: you're paying like 15% every year in property tax.
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: That's not nothing.
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: That's not nothing. I think the idea is that rich
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: people are just going to pay it. And this is
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: what they're trying to push. Meanwhile, people are going to flee,
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: just like they've done in other countries when they've done
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: these sort of wealth taxes. That's $ 1, 200 a month, though.
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: A month. So $ 1, 200 a month, yeah. $ 1, 200 for the year.
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: A condo assessed at $ 120, 000 would go from paying $ 14, 000
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: to $ 16, 000.
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: But that's a condo that's assessed at $ 120, 000. Good luck
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: finding a condo assessed at $ 120, 000 in New York City. $ 14, 000
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: divided by 12 is $ 1, 000. Well, for that particular condominium unit.
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: From $ 15, 000 to $ 16, 300, that's a difference of.
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: Oh, I see. That's what you're talking about.
• 41:03
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: That's 12% on $ 120, 000. Now do a $ 55 million condo.
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: This is a $ 3.
• 41:07
  Speaker 5: 2 million one.
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: The really wealthy people are responsible for a large percentage
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: of the tax income in New York City. I think
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: it's the upper 1%. I think the upper 1% of
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: New York City are responsible for 50% of the tax revenue.
• 41:23
  Speaker 3: It's something crazy like that. See what the actual number is.
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: So the thing about that actual number is those are
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: the people that are going to leave. Because those are
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: the people, if they own multiple properties in New York
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: City and then he hits them with this tax and
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: it winds up being an excessive amount of money. And
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: then they're planning on taxing people if they leave. This
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: is like what they proposed in California. They've also proposed this,
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: I think, in the Netherlands to try to stop people
• 41:49
  Speaker 3: from leaving.
• 41:49
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: Where you still have to pay taxes.
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: Or France was doing some weird thing. I remember when
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: Depardieu was leaving, they were trying to do something.
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: They were all just trying to steal money. Top 1%
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: of New York City income. Yeah. Earners paid 48% of
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: the city's personal income tax liability in 2021. The most
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: recent year with detailed data. Why is the most recent
• 42:06
  Speaker 3: year five years ago? The PIT share equates to roughly
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: 11% of New York City's total tax revenue. PIT accounts
• 42:15
  Speaker 3: for 23% of overall city tax collections. So it's a
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: lot of money. 48% of the city's personal income tax
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: liability is an enormous amount of money.
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: So property tax is 45%. That's where they get all
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: their money from, which you can understand because you can't
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: take the Empire State Building somewhere else.
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: Right. But if you're jacking all that up, top 1%
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: paid 40% of PIT. Shares may have declined post-2021 due
• 42:37
  Speaker 3: to lower capital gains.
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: But he did do something I liked. So him and
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: Kathy Hochul had this thing where now they're trying to streamline.
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: I'm sure there's some catch to make it easier to build.
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: Because they're understanding if rents are high, increasing supply is
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: going to lower costs. So if they do that, I
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: think that's a great thing, obviously, which I never saw coming.
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: Right. That's definitely good. But there's still people who are
• 42:59
  Speaker 3: just– they don't like that kind of leadership. It's spooky.
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: I'm much more concerned about– he has someone on his–
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: in his cabinet or proposed to be in his cabinet
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: who's concerned with decarceration. And the principle is we got
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: too many people in jail. Now, maybe that might be
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: true broadly speaking, but when you apply that en masse
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: and on a case-by-case basis, who are you going to
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: be letting out? Because I don't think this claim people
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: used to have that like, oh, all these people are
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: in jail because of weed. They're not. It's certainly not
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: in New York City. When I was on a grand
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: jury and these weed cases came along, people wouldn't even
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: indict them. They're just like, we're not taking part of this.
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: This is BS.
• 43:36
  Speaker 3: And now it's legal.
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: So for you to get to look at what's the
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: guy who was on the Jordan Neely? Was that his name?
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: But he had 40 arrests. The one who punched that
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: girl in the face, the old lady in the face
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: and tried to kidnap a girl?
• 43:46
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: So for you to be in jail in New York,
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: it's not nothing.
• 43:50
  Speaker 3: Right. Yeah. And why? Why would they want to do this?
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: Because their principle is the system or society, whatever you
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: want to call it, whatever your term for it is,
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: is making people who are marginalized desperate. So they act out.
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: So instead of putting them in jail, which helps no
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: one is the argument. We should be working with them
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: systemically to kind of normalize and make productive citizens.
• 44:17
  Speaker 4: Out of them.
• 44:17
  Speaker 3: And what's their plan for that?
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: You have welfare programs, different training programs. Just throw money
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: at it. And here's the thing. I can understand that
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: argument maybe if someone's stealing bread to feed their family.
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: I've never understood how. I'm really poor, so I'm going
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: to hold a woman down and do bad things to her.
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: That's not a thing.
• 44:37
  Speaker 3: Or just randomly punch people in the streets or throw
• 44:40
  Speaker 3: people in front of trains.
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: That's right. It's not because you're late to your job
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: interview that you shove somebody in front of the sixth train.
• 44:48
  Speaker 3: Right. Yeah. It's dark, man.
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: It's very dark. But L.A. is not as dark as this.
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: I think in L.A. there is still this sense of hope.
• 44:58
  Speaker 3: Really? Because people I talk to in L.A., everyone I
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: know knows someone who's been broken into. Like the home invasions.
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: Oh, that's right.
• 45:06
  Speaker 3: That's a thing. They're up in a huge way.
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: I'm just comparing two different kinds of cancer. And I'm
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: saying the cancer in L.A.
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: Is better than the cancer in New York?
• 45:15
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: Because I remember growing up and not that long ago
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: with New York, you could find some new neighborhood. And
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: there'd be some cool ice cream store, some sock store, whatever,
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: a button store, cool little spots. And it would be
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: a fun adventure to just walk around and just walk
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: in different places. And that's gone.
• 45:35
  Speaker 3: Is it?
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah. You can't open up some weird little store in
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: New York anymore. The rent's through the roof. The crime
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: is through the roof. It's miserable.
• 45:45
  Speaker 5: L.A.
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: Has these little pockets, which I enjoy seeing.
• 45:48
  Speaker 3: So what's the solution for New York after this guy's out?
• 45:53
  Speaker 3: Do you think that it ever turns around? Or do
• 45:55
  Speaker 3: you think it keeps going in the same general direction?
• 45:57
  Speaker 3: And do you think the powers that be want it
• 45:59
  Speaker 3: to go in this general direction?
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: It always turns around. So John Lindsay was mayor in
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: the late 60s during the Summer of Love stuff. You
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: had sexual assaults through the roof. You remember New York
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: was going bankrupt under Abe Beam when Gerald Ford was president.
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: And Ford, the headline, I think the New York Post was,
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: Ford to New York City, drop dead. And that cost
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: him some votes and possibly the presidency.
• 46:22
  Speaker 3: But New York.
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: has these, I don't know what the cycle, for Giuliani
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: to win, you had to have a Dinkins. For Obama
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: to come in, you had to have a Bush. But
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: here's the other problem. There's two issues. One is a
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: lot of people who could left. There didn't used to
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: be a plan B for New York because New York
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: was its own thing.
• 46:40
  Speaker 3: Now it's Florida.
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: Now it's Florida or Austin. And New York isn't New
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: York anymore because Fran Lebowitz, my second favorite public speaker,
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: she had this point. She goes, look, there's a lot
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: of things you could say about a city that's that's
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: full of rich people. You could say it's good. You
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: could say rich people are bad. You can't say it's interesting.
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: And unless there's a space for young people of nothing
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: to lose, who are going to bring culture and innovation.
• 47:04
  Speaker 3: Artists.
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: Artists. Broadly speaking, not just little painters, but artists. It
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: was Williamsburg. It was the Bowery before that. There were
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: little pockets of magic. And Red Hook, I remember there
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: was a bar called Lily's and all of Red Rock
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: was deserted and there's just one light open and I
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: came to this bar and there were just amazing singers
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: and it was like a mystical experience and there'd be
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: street art, but that's, you can't do that now.
• 47:28
  Speaker 3: A friend of mine's girlfriend used to work in this
• 47:30
  Speaker 3: place called Den of Thieves.
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: Oh, okay, yeah.
• 47:32
  Speaker 3: And there's no sign. Right. You go in there, there's
• 47:35
  Speaker 3: this dingy little hole in the wall.
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: Or Milk and Honey was another one.
• 47:38
  Speaker 3: This place is so cool.
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: It's so cool, but you can't do that anymore.
• 47:42
  Speaker 4: No.
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: So, and I don't think under this guy there's gonna.
• 47:46
  Speaker 3: Be So do you think he's just appealing to this
• 47:53
  Speaker 3: base of disenfranchised young people that have been told that
• 47:57
  Speaker 3: the reason why they have all these problems is rich
• 47:59
  Speaker 3: people are greedy and they've ruined everything and we should
• 48:03
  Speaker 3: tax the rich and we'll feed the poor?
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: I think he is speaking to a lot of people.
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: So people on the right think everyone on the left
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: is like a big monolith. They're not. And I think
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: there's a lot of lefties, especially young lefties, who don't
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: think the Democratic Party is an effective mechanism toward resolving
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: their issues and concerns. And he's not he's just like
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: Trump wasn't really Republican. He's a Republican on paper. We
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: had no allegiance to the Republican Party. He took them
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: all out one at a time. This guy is a
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: Democratic socialist. He has no in 1934 when Upton Sinclair
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: ran for governor of California after years of running as
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: a socialist, he goes, people vote for the party their
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: grandparents voted for. So he's a Democrat on paper. He's
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: a leftist, obviously, but he's a Democrat on paper. Cuomo
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: was the establishment hack. And he's like, look, it was
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: like Obama in 08. Do you want to go with
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: this old party hack or this young guy who's got
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: a different vision? And he definitely does have a different vision.
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: This isn't how Hillary would govern New York City or
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: even Eric Adams or some of these others.
• 49:02
  Speaker 3: Well, I think one of the big reasons he won
• 49:04
  Speaker 3: was that debate where he said that he wouldn't go
• 49:06
  Speaker 3: to Israel.
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: You think that's a big one?
• 49:07
  Speaker 3: A hundred percent. I think that was an enormous shift.
• 49:11
  Speaker 3: I would say that's a 10, 15% shift. 10, 15? Huge.
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: We have the polling.
• 49:15
  Speaker 3: Absolutely huge. I think the polling's horseshit because it's only
• 49:18
  Speaker 3: people so fucking stupid they answer polls. Like, who are
• 49:21
  Speaker 3: those people? I think there's a- I think there was
• 49:23
  Speaker 3: a giant cultural shift where people like, right, shouldn't we
• 49:27
  Speaker 3: be paying attention to New York? Why are all these
• 49:28
  Speaker 3: people saying they want to go to Israel?
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: Sure.
• 49:30
  Speaker 3: Why are they saying that? Who's paying them? Why are
• 49:34
  Speaker 3: they saying that? That's an odd thing to say. Sure.
• 49:37
  Speaker 3: No one's saying, the first thing I'm going to do
• 49:38
  Speaker 3: is visit Belgium. They're not saying that. They're saying we're
• 49:42
  Speaker 3: going to go to Israel. Sure.
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: But there's also a huge Jewish population in New York City.
• 49:47
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: So when Cuomo tapped into that, I don't know. I
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: don't think Mamdani was somehow outed as an anti-Zionist.
• 49:54
  Speaker 3: Politicians, like the percentage of people that are Jewish in
• 49:58
  Speaker 3: New York City is Jewish. small in comparison to the
• 50:01
  Speaker 3: people that think that New York City should be the
• 50:04
  Speaker 3: main focus of attention and not Israel. And I think
• 50:07
  Speaker 3: when you have all these politicians that are doing things
• 50:09
  Speaker 3: that don't make sense to most people, like saying the
• 50:12
  Speaker 3: first thing I'm gonna do is visit Israel. What are
• 50:14
  Speaker 3: you talking about? The city's a mess. And then this
• 50:16
  Speaker 3: guy comes along and says I can serve the Jewish
• 50:19
  Speaker 3: people of New York City better in New York City.
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: And he had a large percentage of Jewish vote. My
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: point is I don't think that that number happened because
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: of debate. I think that was part of his appeal
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: from the beginning.
• 50:30
  Speaker 3: Well, I think for fence sitters, though, that debate was
• 50:33
  Speaker 3: big because you got to see one guy who's like,
• 50:36
  Speaker 3: this is a solution to this system that we have
• 50:39
  Speaker 3: been just replacing the heads of the people that are
• 50:43
  Speaker 3: in charge, but it's the same exact mechanism.
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: No, that's what I was saying earlier, that he's not
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: a member of the Democratic Party. Cuomo is this old
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: party hack. And he's like, look, let's throw all that
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: stuff in the garbage. This is something innovative and new.
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: This is the argument Obama made in 08. And he's
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: not wrong. When he had his inaugural speech and he
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: said we're going to get rid of the cold whatever
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: grasp of capitalism and be embraced by the warmth of collectivism,
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: no Democrat is saying things like this. This is something
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: completely new and completely innovative. So how it's going to
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: look in practice– here's the other thing though. The mayor
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: in New York has a ceiling to what he can do.
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: So I would not– he's 34 I think. He's young.
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: If I'm sat in that office– And I'm up against
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: the New York City real estate industry. It's not going
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: to be an easy fight for me.
• 51:35
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: Trump had to learn this the first term. It's like
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: just because you're president doesn't mean people are going to
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: bend the knee.
• 51:41
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: And play ball. So who knows what this is going
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: to look like?
• 51:46
  Speaker 3: And it's not just New York City. Seattle's doing the
• 51:48
  Speaker 3: same thing. What are they doing? Seattle, they elected a
• 51:50
  Speaker 3: full-on communist. Oh, that's right.
• 51:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah.
• 51:52
  Speaker 3: Who lived with her parents and hasn't had a job.
• 51:56
  Speaker 3: Lives off her fucking parents.
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: Well, this is also a big concern with the Democrats
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: in general, with both parties. When you have the base
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: and the establishment, we're basically just gangsters who are doing
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: money laundering. And you have the kids who are like,
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: we've been screwed over here in this shit for bullshit
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: for decades. Let's have an alternative. What do you do
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: when you're Nancy Pelosi and you're Chuck Schumer and you're,
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: to a lesser extent, Hakeem Jeffries, and these people are
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: coming up, the kids, wanting... democratic socialists. I don't mean kids.
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: I mean young people who are idealistic and are like,
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: we tried your way. It didn't give us shit. It
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: gave us Trump. What do you tell them?
• 52:33
  Speaker 3: What do you tell them?
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: There's no answer. You vote for Steny Hoyer for another
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: 10 years? It's ridiculous. Amy Klobuchar is not going to
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: be your candidate if you have this democratic socialist vision.
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: She will not deliver that for you and she'll tell
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: you that's her fate. So I think that's the dance
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: Newsom is trying to do. And I don't see who,
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: I think he'd be the perfect VP because he's a
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: great attack dog. He doesn't have to worry about defending
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: his record.
• 53:08
  Speaker 3: He doesn't want to be the VP.
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: I've heard that too, but he was Jerry Brown's number two.
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: He bided his time.
• 53:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but he was Jerry Brown's number two when he
• 53:16
  Speaker 3: was young and he had never been the governor. Sure.
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying like he would be the perfect VP
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: for the Democrats.
• 53:22
  Speaker 3: I don't think he wants that. I think he wants
• 53:24
  Speaker 3: to be the king. I think he wants to ruin
• 53:26
  Speaker 3: San Francisco, ruin California, and then go on to become
• 53:30
  Speaker 3: the president.
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: You don't think he'd have a good shot?
• 53:32
  Speaker 3: At being the president?
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 53:33
  Speaker 3: I think he does.
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: He does. He has a great shot.
• 53:35
  Speaker 3: I think he does.
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 53:36
  Speaker 3: I think people are that dumb.
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: I don't think it's that dumb.
• 53:39
  Speaker 3: They're that dumb that they're willing to vote party line
• 53:42
  Speaker 3: no matter what. That's true. And a guy who's just
• 53:43
  Speaker 3: a good speaker, who's a good bullshit artist, that he
• 53:47
  Speaker 3: could be able to sweet talk his way into that
• 53:49
  Speaker 3: position and just fudge data, lie about stuff. Nick Shirley
• 53:53
  Speaker 3: is in California right now doing the same thing that
• 53:55
  Speaker 3: he was doing in Minneapolis. Yeah. And they've already uncovered
• 53:58
  Speaker 3: fucking billions of dollars of fraud.
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: Is that right?
• 54:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Oh, he's making videos about it.
• 54:03
  Speaker 5: Oh.
• 54:03
  Speaker 3: Same kind of fraud. Medicaid fraud through the roof. All
• 54:06
  Speaker 3: kinds of crazy shit. Yeah.
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: But, I mean, I don't know how much that Minnesota
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: stuff permeated. I mean, it took down Tim Walz, which
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: is one of the biggest scalps. Like, no one saw
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: that coming.
• 54:17
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: But the same thing. You take out Tim Walz. Here's
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: Klobuchar's governor.
• 54:20
  Speaker 3: It's a hydra.
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: You're not. Frankly, you'd rather have him. He's more defeatable
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: than her.
• 54:26
  Speaker 3: Does it depend upon how much fraud gets exposed and
• 54:30
  Speaker 3: who gets connected to that fraud and what the investigation unveils?
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: You're going to have people who listen to NPR tell
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: you with a straight face that this fraud happens under any...
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: They'll have a list of excuses. It's been investigated and resolved.
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: There's no fraud in Florida and Texas. Or what are
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: you saying? Or why are you targeting the Somalis?
• 54:54
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: So you're not going to get– and at the end
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: of the day, I think people expect government to have fraud.
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: And if it's in Minnesota, you're not really going to–
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: if I'm a Democrat in Minnesota, I'm voting Democrat. And
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: if I'm a Republican, it's not– how many votes is
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: this going to sway?
• 55:08
  Speaker 3: Well, they've done an amazing job in Minnesota of distracting
• 55:11
  Speaker 3: people from the Somali fraud by organizing protests against ICE. Right.
• 55:14
  Speaker 3: And that's– people need to understand. Like, yes, people are
• 55:17
  Speaker 3: upset about ICE. Fact. Unquestionably so. Just regular people at
• 55:21
  Speaker 3: home that aren't protesting. But that protest is not just organized.
• 55:26
  Speaker 3: It's funded. It's heavily funded, organized. They had signal chats
• 55:30
  Speaker 3: with Democratic congressmen or Democratic politicians, rather, that were involved
• 55:35
  Speaker 3: in this. They knew what they were doing and they
• 55:38
  Speaker 3: did it because they wanted to distract from the fact
• 55:40
  Speaker 3: that this fraud was being exposed.
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: Well, I think they would do it regardless. But yes,
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: it certainly serves that purpose.
• 55:44
  Speaker 3: They totally shifted the narrative.
• 55:45
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 55:46
  Speaker 3: Nobody's talking about the fraud anymore. Everybody's talking about ICE
• 55:49
  Speaker 3: being murderers. Right. Yeah. So it worked. It worked.
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: So that's what I'm saying. If there's more fraud exposed,
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: I don't know that it's going to work against Newsom.
• 55:56
  Speaker 3: Well, it depends on how the trials lay out. So
• 55:59
  Speaker 3: if people wind up going to trial over this and
• 56:01
  Speaker 3: people wind up getting indicted over this, that could get
• 56:03
  Speaker 3: more interesting.
• 56:04
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 56:04
  Speaker 3: Because then you remove it from Minnesota and then it
• 56:07
  Speaker 3: becomes this federal court thing. And so then it becomes
• 56:09
  Speaker 3: mainstream public news if they do this correctly, if there
• 56:12
  Speaker 3: is something there.
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: But the thing is you have to worry about if
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: the judge is going to be complicit and if the
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: prosecutor is going to be complicit and the media is also.
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: You've got to kind of fly that arrow through three hoops.
• 56:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah. You've got to go through the bushes and make
• 56:25
  Speaker 3: a– you've got a small hole to shoot through. Yeah.
• 56:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: And then to try to make it– and then it
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: would be very easy for Newsom to be like, I'm
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: so glad this got exposed.
• 56:33
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: I promise you, as president, this won't happen in America.
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: And if you want to talk corruption, look at Trump
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: and all his sweetheart deals, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: Hillary's already throwing men on the bus about Epstein. They
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: don't have shame.
• 56:44
  Speaker 3: What is she saying?
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: Hillary's like, Trump's in the files thousands of times. Like,
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: let's have this conversation.
• 56:51
  Speaker 3: She started already. Right, right. What does that mean, though,
• 56:54
  Speaker 3: when you're in the file thousands of times? Because he
• 56:57
  Speaker 3: is the guy that was in contact with the FBI
• 57:00
  Speaker 3: about Epstein. He did contact the FBI after Epstein was
• 57:04
  Speaker 3: arrested and thanked them for arresting him and getting him
• 57:08
  Speaker 3: because that guy was a real problem.
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 57:11
  Speaker 3: And he did kick him out of Mar-a-Lago in 2005.
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: But she's being factual but not truthful. So it is factual.
• 57:16
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: That his name is in the files. Yes. And then
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: you leave it for the person listening to make that conclusion. Right.
• 57:22
  Speaker 3: That's all you have to say.
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: That's all you have to say.
• 57:24
  Speaker 3: We were talking to Dono Rawlings yesterday. He's in the files.
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 57:28
  Speaker 3: Because Epstein went to visit his show, went to watch
• 57:30
  Speaker 3: his show at Improv in West Palm Beach.
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: I did a search for the word retarded. And the
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: one email I found was someone like, can you mail
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: me that photo where I look fat and retarded?
• 57:42
  Speaker 3: That's it?
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: It's not clear from who. It's too Epstein.
• 57:45
  Speaker 3: It's redacted. Yeah. No one wants to know they were
• 57:48
  Speaker 3: admitted they look fat and retarded.
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: Or the N-words in there are a fair amount also.
• 57:52
  Speaker 3: Well, there's a lot of references to pizza. I think
• 57:57
  Speaker 3: there's thousands of references to pizza and jerky. The jerky
• 58:01
  Speaker 3: and the pizza. And grape soda.
• 58:03
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 58:04
  Speaker 3: Well, grape, the thing about grape soda is grape is
• 58:08
  Speaker 3: like what people do to get around the algorithm when
• 58:10
  Speaker 3: they're discussing rape. When he graped them.
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: But this was like 2011. I don't think people knew
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: about that stuff.
• 58:16
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: And I don't think Epstein as a boomer knows how
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: to get around algorithms.
• 58:20
  Speaker 3: Right. This is not an algorithm thing. Right. It's just
• 58:22
  Speaker 3: a code thing.
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: So I thought maybe it's a black thing. But then.
• 58:26
  Speaker 3: Grape soda? Oh, right.
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah. But then he's racist. There's like things about don't
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: bring black people.
• 58:30
  Speaker 3: Oh, really?
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
• 58:31
  Speaker 3: He says don't bring black people to parties?
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: Something to that effect.
• 58:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: Something to that effect. Please double check me on this.
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: But it was something that he was not. No black girls.
• 58:40
  Speaker 3: Oh, no black girls. Interesting. Huh.
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: So, yeah. I don't think we're ever... The other thing
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: that I'm kind of stunned at is there's this belief
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: online that if there's enough agitation, like QAnon, we're all
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: going to have these mass arrests. And I don't see
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: that happening. And I don't think you can do anything
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: to force them to release the really bad stuff if
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: they haven't.
• 59:08
  Speaker 3: So, what else is left? There's three million other files.
• 59:12
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: They said they released everything.
• 59:16
  Speaker 3: Well, they also said there wasn't anything. Right. You know,
• 59:19
  Speaker 3: when Cash Patel was on here, it's like there's no videos.
• 59:22
  Speaker 3: There's no evidence. There's no nothing.
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: The craziest for me was when Pam Bondi said, I've
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: got the list. And I said to myself, and I
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: talked to my friends, they all agreed with me. I'm like,
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: I really don't think he had clientslist.doc on his desktop.
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: That's not a thing, right? So I believe he doesn't
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: have a literal list. And later she goes, when I
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: said list, I meant blah, blah, blah. And I'm like,
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: but you said list.
• 59:45
  Speaker 3: Right, well, they had those binders. They were all performatively
• 59:48
  Speaker 3: holding those binders. We have the files. We're going to
• 59:51
  Speaker 3: go through them. Heads are going to roll. Nothing happened. Right.
• 59:54
  Speaker 3: And then Les Wexner, what did he say today? Jamie,
• 59:57
  Speaker 3: you were saying that he said he got- He was
• 59:58
  Speaker 3: a conned man. He was conned or something by a con.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 3: He was conned for so many years.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 5: I've been seeing online, I don't know the accuracy, that
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 5: there's a bunch of missing files from specifically 1999 through 2001.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 3: Right. And that people are connecting that to 9-11. Yeah.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 4: Oh. Yeah.
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 3: Wait, 19- Pre and post 9-11 are all missing.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: Wait, so Epstein might be involved with 9-11?
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: But I mean, what's the thumbtacks and strings? I'm not
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: saying it's impossible.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 3: Well, there's a lot of people that believe that Israel
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 3: was involved in 9-11.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: Right. But I don't think Epstein was high up in
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: the Israeli decision-making process.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 5: But I think they're just looking for financial records of things,
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 5: and those are all missing. People's names.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: You know, if I found out Muhammad Atta was a pedophile,
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: I might actually start to dislike that guy. That would
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: really change my opinion of him.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 3: FC files surrounding 9-11. Wow. Coincidence.
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: Oh, this just came out.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 5: I mean, people are still digging in this stuff every day.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 4: Holy crap.
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 5: That's why people keep finding new shit all the time.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: Oh, my God. Scroll down. This is fascinating.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 3: That fucking cryptic George W.
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: Bush photograph. No, the Clinton one's worse.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the dress. We have that outside.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I saw. Yeah.
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 5: They stumbled across something where there was redacted photos. If
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 5: you looked through the files and typed in something like
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 5: no photos rendered.
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 3: Yes. You could change the.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 5: Pdf to. mp4 or.
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 3: Mov. There's thousands of videos.
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 5: Tons of videos are popping up.
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 4: Wow.
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 5: Yeah. People are starting to watch all those videos. Some
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 5: of them are from the prison. Some of them are
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 5: from the island.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: Flight logs starting. Okay.
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 3: Have they found anything in those videos? You got to
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 3: go through them individually, right?
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I know that.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 3: People are now, that's, I don't, again, the accuracy, I
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 3: don't know.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 5: I've seen a video where someone said this was from
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 5: the video and there's like a girl crying in it,
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 5: but I don't know.
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 3: Adderall and autism, do your job. Find those videos.
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: That should be the subtitle of this show. Adderall and autism,
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: do your job. Holy crap.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 3: That's hilarious. Oh my God. What a world we're living in.
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: You want to talk about, I want to talk about
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: Scott Adams.
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 3: Sure.
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: I was just at his memorial. Are you, was he
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: ever on your show? Yes. Um, I got invited to
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: speak and it was really a great, um, uh, experience.
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: I got a, cause I'm a mental patient. I got
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: a Dilbert mask. And the thing with the Dilbert mask
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: is there's no mouth, right? So Dr. Drew was supposed
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: to speak and I was going to go there and
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: do my little terrorism where I was going to have
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: my little phone and say, nice to meet you. I'm
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: Dilbert and wave and then swipe and be like, you know,
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: can you take off your glasses please? And he takes
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: a glass and be like, nice eyes, I'm going to
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: take them and just fuck with people at the funeral,
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: like Scott would have wanted. It was really great because
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: it was very upbeat. And I was kind of honored.
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: Gutfeld texted me. He goes, hey, do you want to speak?
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: And I go, it would be a huge honor. He
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: just goes, great. And I'm like, am I actually speaking
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: or are you just quizzing me? I got to see
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: Cernovich was there, Posobiec, a few other people, and then
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: afterwards went to his house. And there's something really kind of.
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: Eerie about walking into the house of someone who had
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: just passed. His ex-wife, Sherry, let me take two of
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: his markers, which I will always treasure and kind of
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: hang in my house. There were two lines I couldn't
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: say at the memorial because I knew the fans would
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: get salty, which is, Scott is in heaven right now
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: doing what he loved most, avoiding black people. And the
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: reason Dilbert was a black and white comic strip is
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: because Scott didn't really like the coloreds.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: Because Scott was a humorist. Just go for the joke.
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: But, I mean, it's just weird how much he still resonates,
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: I think, with people. And I don't really have anything
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: else particularly to say, but I just felt it was
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: important to kind of commemorate his passing because he's really
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: helped me out a lot in my thinking.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a real bummer, man, because... it happened so
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 3: quickly is cancer. He got turbo cancer.
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: Well, he had it in January, 2025. And he said,
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: I'm going to wait for my stepdaughter to get married.
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: And she was there and I got to meet her.
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: She was a lovely kid to get married. And then
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: I'm going to do it. And then he tweeted something out.
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: RFK jumped in, Trump jumped in, they got him this
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: medicine and they got him a few more months. And,
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: you know, so he got six more months point being
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: with the maid stuff, just cause someone's terminal doesn't mean
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: they don't have, months left and you could do a
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: lot in those months. It was funny. There's another cartoonist,
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: I apologize, I'm blanking on his name. And he was
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 1: friends with Scott for a long time. Scott had promoted
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: his work once and he went from like obscurity to
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: like a big name. And Scott asked him, Hey, can
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: you write the foreword to my forthcoming biography? And the
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: guy's like, I'm not really gonna have time. So it
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: was like, Scott was that kind of person where he's
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: just like, just because, you know, I'm about to meet
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: my maker. I don't want you to be morose. His book,
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: Reframe Your Brain, is a complete masterpiece. Because what he
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: does is he goes through mindsets and instantly recalibrates them.
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: One of them is the regular framework is I should
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: do great at my job. And his reframe is my
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: job is to prepare for a better job. And when
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 1: you think about it that way, having that shitty job
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: is not rough because you're just laying the groundwork for
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: something better. So when I spoke, I said the framework
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: is we're having a memorial for Scott, but the reframe
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: is we're having a party and Scott's really late.
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: So if you think about that terms, hey, we're having fun.
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: Where's this asshole? Because he didn't want us to be
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: there like moping. He always was positive, always was fun,
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: even during that day. So I thought, I just know
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: him a lot.
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 3: Did he blame his death on the COVID shots?
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: So he got a lot of, this really bothered me
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: because he'd be tweeting about stuff people like shouldn't have
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: got the shot it's like this guy's about to die
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 1: like this is your gotcha moment this is your like
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: I told you so moment it's just so he did
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: not blame it I would be surprised if that was
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: the you saw what just happened I met James Van
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: Der Beek through you I met him at the mothership
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: in the green room 48 six kids the wife seemed
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: very sweet and charming too he was just a good
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: Seemed like a really chill dude. I haven't seen one person.
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he seemed like a super nice guy.
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: Not one person has anything bad to say about him,
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: which says a lot from that kind of era.
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 3: No, he was a sweetheart.
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: So, 48, man. That's scary.
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 4: I know.
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 3: And there's an unprecedented number of young people that are
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 3: dying of cancer. In fact, was it Time Magazine that
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 3: had a cover of it? I saved it because the
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 3: cover's kind of crazy because it's proposing what is causing
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 3: these things and why is this all happening as if
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 3: no one knows. Yeah, right.
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: Like, what could it be?
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 3: Some fucking mystery. Could be anything. You know, I know
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 3: I saved it. Oh, yeah.
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: Holy crap.
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 3: What do you think it could be? Anything weird happen?
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 3: Do you guys know what SV40 is? You should probably
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 3: look it up.
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: What's amazing about articles, like, does that article make it
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: a point to, do they ignore the vaccine, so-called vaccine,
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: or do they downplay it as the cause?
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 3: Like, those are the two options. Right. What do they
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 3: say in that article? Do they bring up, love to
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 3: hear that.
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 1: Couldn't possibly be. Do you know what really fucked me
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 1: up recently? And you're going to laugh in my face,
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: and every Maha person listening to this is going to
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: laugh in my face.
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 5: Why?
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: And you can feel free to laugh in my face
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: because it's covered in polka dots. Aspartame. I would drink...
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: My main method of hydration was Dr. Pepper Zero. It's warranted.
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 1: I know. This is why I have the polka dots.
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 1: And I go to New York and I'm low on
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 1: calories for my macros. And I switched to full sugar, Dr.
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 3: Pepper.
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: So it wasn't the caffeine. And my thinking changed. And
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: I'm like, this is... And I go online. This has
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 1: been known for.
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 3: Thinking changed household.
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: I was quicker on my feet. I was having trouble
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 1: remembering words, remembering names, remembering just being– my verbal speed
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 1: of how I speak is something that is part of
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: my job. And I was having issues with that. I
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 1: had to have workarounds when I couldn't think of someone's
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: name or someone's word. Or I was having this– there
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: you go.
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 3: Research has linked high consumption of aspartame to impaired memory,
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 3: spatial learning deficits, and faster cognitive decline in adults under 60.
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 4: Yep.
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 3: Neuroinflammation, oxidative stress– Aspartame metabolites can trigger chronic microglial activation
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 3: and increased oxidative stress in the brain leading to neuronal
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 3: damage and potential neurodegeneration. You know who pushed that through, right? Who? Aspartame. Rumsfeld.
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 4: No.
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Search that.
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 1: So here's the thing.
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 3: Throw that into perplexity.
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 1: If you're listening to this and you're someone like me
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: who was living on it, just try for two days.
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 3: Right? Really?
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 1: And you'll know right away.
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 4: If.
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 1: Because I also had this low-key anxiety all the time. Like,
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: it was like a one out of ten, but it
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: was there. I thought, okay, it's just whatever. I thought
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 1: it's just life. Nope, it's gone.
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 3: Donald Rumsfeld, CEO of GD Cereal in the late 1970s,
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 3: early 80s, played a pivotal role in the FDA approval
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 3: of aspartame, the artificial sweetener, in products like NutraSweet.
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 1: Holy crap.
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so they... There was studies back then showing approval
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 3: due to potential carcinogenicity risks. Hayes approved aspartame for dry
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 3: food shortly after expanding it to beverages by 1983. There
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 3: was studies on, I think there was rat studies.
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: And it gave them like Alzheimer's.
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 3: Well.
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 1: So I'm just warning people as much as I can.
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 1: Pretend I'm a quack. That's fine.
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 3: Just give it two days. Lay off aspartame.
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 1: And see what happens to you.
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 3: Okay. Well, it makes sense. I mean, there's no biological
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 3: free lunch. If you get something and it does something positive,
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 3: it's probably doing something negative. If it's some novel potion
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 3: that you're pouring into your body, there's probably some negative
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 3: aspect of it.
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 1: I was talking to Dr. Mike about this, about.
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 3: Brain tumors in rats. Yeah. Led the FDA to stay
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 3: aspartame 74 approval. Fucking rats, man. Highlighted high brain tumor
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 3: incidence in rat feeding studies and risks from phenylalanine causing
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 3: convulsions or mental retardation. Isn't that what they think killed
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 3: Tammy Faye Baker? Didn't she drink like a fucking gallon
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 3: of Diet Coke a day?
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 5: Really?
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 4: Really?
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, find that. I think that's what a lot of people,
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 3: because Tammy Faye Baker, I think, died of brain cancer.
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 1: Colon cancer.
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 3: Colon cancer?
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 3: What's that?
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 5: That spread to her lungs.
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: Oh, that's awful.
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 3: Went from her colon to her lungs.
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 1: What is she doing, ass-to-mouth stuff? She should call Kristen Cinema.
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 1: I don't think it's contagious. She should call Kristen Cinema.
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 1: Having some weird orgies down there.
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 3: Fuck. But wasn't she like a prolific Diet Coke drinker?
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 3: I think she was. I think people were trying to
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 3: link it. Look, it can't be good for you. It
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 3: tastes like sugar. It's not sugar. It can't be good
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 3: for you.
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 1: It did a number on me, and I'm happy to
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 1: be able to warn people. It scared the fuck out
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 1: of me.
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 3: I like Stevia. I like these drinks called Zevias. They're
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 3: Stevia drinks, and they're zero calories, taste good. Right. It
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 3: doesn't quite taste like sugar, but it tastes good enough.
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 1: I'm just sticking to my water and my full sugar.
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 1: So it is.
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 3: But my daughter is like really good at reading labels
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 3: and finding. You're only supposed to drink one of those
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 3: a day. I was like, are you sure?
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 1: I was eating a protein bar this morning while getting
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 1: my face did. And I just look at the label
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 1: and one of the ingredients I see is titanium dioxide.
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 1: I'm like, do I really? Titanium.
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 3: Interesting. Like what? Yeah.
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 1: So that's in me now.
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah. There's other protein bars. You don't have to eat
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 3: that shit.
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 1: I think they all have that.
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 3: No, I eat carnivore bars. You ever heard of carnivore bars?
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 1: No, I haven't.
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 3: It's just like fat and meat.
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 1: I use MRE Light is the brand I use.
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 3: Carnivore bars are great. They just taste like you're eating fat.
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 3: Fat and meat.
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 1: Okay. Is that all the ingredients are?
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 3: I don't think there's anything bad in them at all.
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 3: I think it's like, pull that company up. Carnivore bars.
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 1: I'm happy to switch.
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I think it's pretty natural. I don't think there's
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 3: anything in there.
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 1: This has got to have a lot of salt or sodium.
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, there's some salt in there, but salt's not bad
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 3: for you. That's all horseshit.
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 1: Like when you're eating TV dinners and those numbers, that's
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 1: not bad.
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 3: That's different. TV dinners are filled with preservatives. Carnivore snacks
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 3: is great. Well, this is something that I eat all
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 3: the time. This is my go-to snack. When I go
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 3: to the UFC, that's the stuff I bring. I bring that.
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 1: You bring it. They don't have it for you?
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 3: No, I bring it. I bring it because I work
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 3: with this company, so they send me a bunch of it.
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 3: It's fucking great. But the carnivore bar, so this stuff.
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 3: Purest meal on earth, two ingredients. 20 grams of protein,
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 3: 35 gram animal-based fat, 400 to 420 calories from grass-finished beef. Shelf-stable,
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 3: no refrigeration. That's what I eat.
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 1: Okay, send me some, guys.
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 3: I have some. They'll send you some. If I had
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 3: some here, I eat those all the time. I take
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 3: them with me. I throw them in my car. It's
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 3: fucking great if you want to eat something.
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 1: That is what I need.
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 3: It's protein. It's got grass-finished beef tallow, so you get
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 3: the fat from beef tallow. Some people don't like the
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 3: taste of it. I like it.
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 1: Why don't they?
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 3: It's kind of mild or bland.
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 1: That's fine, though. You're eating it for macros.
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 3: I'm just trying to get food.
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 1: Right, yeah, nutrition.
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but it doesn't make me feel bad at all.
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 3: It feels like food. Like, I've tried some other stuff. Like,
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 3: I tried those David bars. Oh, my God, the farts
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 3: I was having. So, David bars, they have some weird
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 3: fat in it that your body doesn't digest.
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 1: Like those Olean chips?
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 3: Something like that, but a new version of it. And
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 3: so when this company, when they were purchased, they got
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 3: a monopoly on that kind of this, whatever this ingredient is.
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 3: And all these other companies, they blocked it. These companies
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 3: that were using it, they couldn't use it anymore. So
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 3: a lot of people were like boycotting David bars. They
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 3: taste good. And they have like a lot of protein.
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 3: I think it's like 30 protein for like 150 calories.
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 3: But Good Lord, the farts I was having. Because your
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 3: body's like, what is this?
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 1: I had that same thing with protein Cheerios.
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 3: Protein Cheerios?
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it wasn't farts. I was having the trots.
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 3: Oh, really? Yeah.
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 1: It tastes good.
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 3: Fuck are you doing?
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 1: Just eat some meat.
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but eat something like carnivore bars or those carnivore
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 3: snacks are delicious. It's just beef and salt. That's all
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 3: those carnivore snacks are. It's like a beef pastry.
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 5: Good.
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 3: It's not even like jerky. It's chewy. It's delicious. So
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 3: this is a lab-engineered fat substitute called EPG, manufactured by
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 3: a little-known Indianapolis-based company called Epigy. After tinkering with the
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 3: product formulation, the Fugles set up a website in 2024
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 3: and began promoting the bars at local bodybuilding shows and
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 3: farmer's markets. It's just an article about food.
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 3: So what does it say that stuff does? So find
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 3: out what that stuff does. It's a fat substitute, yeah.
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 3: But it does something where your body doesn't digest the fat,
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 3: like it doesn't turn into calories or something?
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 1: Well, this is promoting them. This is making it sound great.
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 5: Yeah, there's 58 other mentions of EPG in here.
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, this is making it sound like, oh, it's the
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 1: best thing ever. They're not mentioning the farts.
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, this is probably promoting it.
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it is.
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 5: Oh, no, this is about the lawsuit.
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 1: Oh.
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 3: Oh. Oh, it is Olestra, like we said. It's essentially
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 3: a better Olestra. At the time, fat was the big
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 3: culprit for heart disease, which it's not. Lester was undigestible.
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 3: That was its key attribute. It passed right through the
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 3: digestive tract, therefore wouldn't result in body fat. The problem
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 3: was its low melting point in the body, which led
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 3: to an infamously polite phrase printed on the wow labels
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 3: may cause abdominal cramping and loose stools.
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, people were shitting themselves.
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 5: Yeah. Using those Pringles or something, I think.
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 3: Well, this stuff didn't give me loose stools, but it
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 3: did give me, like, the devil was farting out of
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 3: my asshole.
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 1: But I got to tell you, isn't that sometimes fun?
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 3: Farts?
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 1: Like, when you have a fart that sounds like a symphony. Like,
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 1: when you're old and you start having new farts, I
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 1: kind of like it. I'm just like, I still got it.
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 3: Well, this was just, like, for me, it was a
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 3: warning sign. My body was like, hey, this ain't good.
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 3: I think it's a warning sign for other people, too, Joe. Yeah, right.
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 3: Anybody else? So... What is the problem with that stuff?
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 3: Demo look. Okay. And problems. So that was the thing.
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 3: They were trying to block other people from using it.
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 1: Bloating, gas, and diarrhea. Yeah.
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 3: Bloating, gas, and diarrhea due to sugar, alcohol.
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 1: Loxative effect.
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 4: Wow.
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 3: And the non-digestible fat substitute. That's it. Which... are poorly
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 3: absorbed and can have a laxative effect, especially in larger amounts.
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 3: The company recommending limiting intake to two bars daily to
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 3: minimize discomfort.
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 1: Wait, wait, wait. Can we stop talking about this? I
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 1: love that they say minimize, not eliminate.
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 3: There's no food.
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 1: Where you're like, you know, if you eat too much
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 1: of this, you're going to definitely have discomfort.
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 3: Who's eating two of these fucking things a day?
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 1: I'm sure people.
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 3: I know, but I mean, like after the farts, wouldn't
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 3: you be like, hey.
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 1: But it's not only the farts, it's the distensions.
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 3: Mm, the inflammation.
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you have that bloated feeling.
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 3: For some people, but, you know, why they would choose
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 3: something like this is they want all that protein with
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 3: 150 calories, and they'll just take the farts.
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, I mean, look at whey. Whey's not digestible.
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 1: That's the standard protein for bodybuilders.
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but it doesn't bother me.
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but a lot of people, whey is not easy
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 1: to break down.
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 3: For a lot of people, yeah. I have zero problem
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 3: with whey.
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 1: I can't do whey.
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 4: Really?
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 1: I was getting brain fog.
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 3: From whey?
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 1: A little bit, yeah.
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 3: Huh.
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 1: Maybe something's wrong with my brain.
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 3: I don't know. Well, you might have like some sort
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 3: of a milk allergy or something. That's possible.
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 1: Who the hell knows? But the point is I switched
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 1: to the whole meat protein.
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 3: And that's much easier for me. Something like carnivore snacks
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 3: or those carnivore bars, that's the solution. Get those. And
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 3: that way you don't have to even think. It's just food.
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 3: And your body treats it like food. It feels like
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 3: food when you eat it.
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 1: It doesn't feel like. It's just hard for me to
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 1: get enough calories in a day for what I need.
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 3: What are you trying to do?
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 1: I'm doing lean gains.
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 3: Lean gains?
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 3: What does that mean?
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 1: So you're keeping the same body fat, but you're slowly
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 1: putting in weight.
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 3: So it's really a tightrope. Oh, okay. So you're involved
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 3: in that again. I know you bailed on bodybuilding. activities.
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 1: Well, no, I still go to the gym.
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 3: But you're trying to get jacked.
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 1: I think I'm in good shape.
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 3: But you're trying to get jacked?
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 1: I don't know what... I don't.
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 3: Know why you're doing that. I didn't do that.
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 1: What do you mean?
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 3: I'm just asking. Are you trying to get jacked? Okay.
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 1: That seems like a kind of question that you corner
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 1: me in the gym.
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 3: No. What do you mean by trying to get jacked? No, no, no, no.
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 3: It's a normal thing for people that are trying to
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 3: get swole. You're trying to get like big muscles.
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 1: I am trying to put on as much mass as
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 1: I can while maintaining a somewhat lean build.
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 3: What are you doing like as far as your workouts?
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 1: I go to gym four days a week.
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 3: What are you doing with your workout? What kind of workouts?
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 1: I do a bro split. Don't make fun of me.
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 3: No, there's nothing wrong with a bro split.
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 1: There's nothing wrong.
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 3: Nothing wrong with it. Works.
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but I'm not doing legs because my legs are
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 1: already too big for my jeans. What? Yeah.
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 3: Get stretchy jeans.
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 1: I have 30 pairs of jeans. I don't need to
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 1: get more jeans. Point being, my legs.
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 3: But do you have regular jeans that are made out
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 3: of cotton or do you get jeans that have flex
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 3: in them?
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 1: I have 30 pairs, so there's a mix. But point being...
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 1: My legs are great. I'm Russian. Russians have great leg DNA.
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 3: So you don't work out your legs at all? You're
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 3: going to get an imbalance.
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 5: How?
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 3: Also, if you work out your legs, your whole body
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 3: will grow.
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 1: That's true. And you'll put up more pounds on the scale.
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 1: But point being, I'm already at the point marginal with
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 1: most of my genes. And they're not skinny genes.
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 3: Let me see your legs. How am I going to
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 3: show you my legs? Just stand up. Let me see
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 3: your legs and your genes. Those are not too big.
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 3: That is ridiculous.
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 1: No, no, no.
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 4: I don't need to be.
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, no.
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 1: Hold on. I will send you a photo of my
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 1: legs and you're going to apologize. My legs are great.
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 1: They're not chicken legs.
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 3: I believe you. They don't look like chicken legs. They're
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 3: not chicken legs.
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 1: They're fine.
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 3: But I don't think you should be concerned about them
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 3: getting bigger. First of all, it takes a lot to
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 3: get your legs much larger. It takes a lot. You're
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 3: going to have to really push past some severe discomfort.
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 1: I'm not. Disputing that but point is they're already marginal
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 1: with my clothes and I think.
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 3: That new clothes you've got money listen You gotta keep
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 3: your body balanced like that's why you should do legs.
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 3: I never just do upper body Joe I am nowhere.
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 1: At the point where my upper body is too big
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 1: for my legs Well, it's.
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 3: Not that you should condition both of them together. Okay,
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 3: it's like you want to have a body that works
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 3: together and.
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 1: My body is fine. I'm not going to be body
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 1: shamed on this show.
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 3: I'm not body shaming you. I'm talking about functional.
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 1: What function? Going up the stairs?
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 3: Anything you have to do. If you have to pick
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 3: something up and move it.
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 1: I can do that.
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 3: If you're not working your legs, then all that stuff
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 3: in your hips, all that stuff, all the surrounding tissue,
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 3: all that stuff is not getting the exercise it deserves
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 3: while you're working out your upper body. Fine.
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 1: The point being my legs are perfectly fine and strong.
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 1: And it was hard for me to get the calories
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 1: I need. That's all I'm saying here.
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 3: So how many calories? What are you trying to do
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 3: a day?
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 1: I think it's like 3,200. Okay. Which is not nothing.
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 3: That's a good meal for me.
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 1: That's a lot of calories.
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess. What do you mean? You don't think
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 3: that's a lot?
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 1: I eat a lot. If you're eating clean, 3,200 is
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 1: a lot. Okay.
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess. Yeah. So 3,200 calories. But you're trying
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 3: to stay lean. And are you on testosterone replacement or
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 3: anything like that?
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 1: I don't know what you're talking about.
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 3: Okay, you are. Good. That's good. Peptides? Any peptides?
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 1: You know what I tried? Yes.
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 3: Okay, good.
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 1: I tried Glow.
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 3: What's Glow?
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 1: Oh, well, well, well, Mr. Doesn't Skip Leg Day. He
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 1: doesn't have polka dots on his face. Someone does. You
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 1: call yourself a bro, and you don't have polka dots
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 1: on your face. Glow is this new peptide. It's a
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 1: combination of three things, and it's called glow because it
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 1: has heavy copper, so it's blue.
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 3: Glow.
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 5: Huh.
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 1: You are welcome.
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 3: Hmm, interesting. Most people combine PBC-157, TB-500, and GHK-CU without
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 3: addressing sequencing or inflammation first. Here's what determines whether GLOW
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 3: truly works.
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 4: Interesting.
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 3: Oh, okay. So it's a combination of all those things together. Interesting.
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 1: Because I pulled my shoulder pretty bad.
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 3: With your heavy lifting?
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 1: I don't think it was heavy. I don't know what happened.
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 3: You don't lift heavy?
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 1: I lift somewhat heavy, but I'm not going to lift
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 1: heavy enough to provoke injury.
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 1: I think that's kind of foolish, especially at my age.
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 3: It is, but if you want to gain weight.
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 1: But I'm gaining weight.
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 3: You're not doing bench or anything, are you? You do
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 3: bench press?
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 1: Why wouldn't I do bench press?
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 3: Why wouldn't you?
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 3: Because it's terrible for your shoulders.
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 1: Well, I do dumbbell bench.
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 3: That's slightly better for your shoulders.
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 3: But that activity of having a lot of weight down here.
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 1: I'm only putting up 70s. That's not that much.
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 3: It's a lot for you.
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 3: All that weight back here, when you're right here, it
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 3: puts tremendous strain on your body. So what should I
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 3: do for pecs? You could do dips. Dips are fantastic
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 3: for it. You know, don't go past 90 degrees. You
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 3: can once you condition your shoulders to, like, be able
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 3: to do it. But dips are good. Weighted dips are
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 3: really good. Um, there's stuff that you could do like
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 3: just kettlebells. Well, I don't do any chest exercises other
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 3: than dips.
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 1: Really?
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I do a lot of kettlebells. Most of my
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 3: exercises are full body motion stuff.
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 3: Almost everything. I do a lot of, uh, snatches, a
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 3: lot of cleans, a lot of, uh, like alternating cleans,
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 3: a lot of renegade rows. Everything I do is kettlebells.
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 1: All I do is I, know someone who's really knows
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 1: this stuff and I follow orders.
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 3: Like that's good too. That's good too. My concern is
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 3: always functional movement. My concern is always, I want my
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 3: body to work as one unit. I don't like isolating things.
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 1: I think I do a lot of compounds like, like, uh,
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 1: inclined dumbbell, inclined benches is one example or, uh, I
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 1: don't even remember what the other, the other kind of stuff.
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 3: But if you have shoulder problems and you're benching, I,
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 3: there's a lot of people I know that just have
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 3: a completely eliminated benching.
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 1: Is that right?
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 4: Okay. Yeah.
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 3: Huh. Especially heavy benching.
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 1: It only resolved this week. Thank God.
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 3: But you know what? It won't like, if you're doing kettlebells,
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 3: that's the weird thing about kettlebells. It increases the strength
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 3: of all your activities. They found that people that do snatches, uh,
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 3: and increase their VO two max and increase their ability
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 3: to do chin ups.
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 1: I did used to do kettlebells. Some, I had it
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 1: one of the lifts in my workout and I, pulled
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 1: out my back on something so fierce. It was a temporary,
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 1: like almost like a cramp, but it was very, very scary.
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 3: Do you remember what the exercise was?
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I was doing the, when you're bending over and
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 1: you swing it over your head.
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 3: Snatch.
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah. Well, the key to that is warmups. Do
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 3: you warm up a lot?
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 1: No. No, I do warmups with the weights. Like I'll do,
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 1: my first set will be 40% of my working set.
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 3: What I would recommend is you got to, especially as
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 3: you get older, you really have to warm your body up.
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 3: And one of the things that I do is I
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 3: always do 10 minutes on the Airdyne bike get everything
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 3: like slightly sweaty. Then I do a lot of jump rope.
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 3: I get everything fired up. And then I do a
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 3: lot of mobility exercises. I do like body twists. I
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 3: do these things like you wave, I get down to
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 3: the bottom and I wave all the way up and
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 3: I bend backwards and I go forward. I do a
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 3: lot of twists. I get everything loose. And then I
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 3: start with pushups and bodyweight squats. I do a hundred pushups,
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 3: a hundred bodyweight squats, and that's my warmup. So all
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 3: that stuff By the time I'm done with all that stuff,
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 3: now everything's warm and now I can start working out.
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 1: How many days a week do you lift or work out?
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 3: Well, I work out almost every day.
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 1: Oh, okay.
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 3: Occasionally I'll take a day off, but I work out
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 3: almost every day. And then with lifting, it's almost every day.
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 3: It depends on what I'm doing. If I'm hitting the bag,
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 3: generally I don't lift weights the days I hit the bag.
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 3: So that's like maybe two or three days a week.
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 3: So the other two days a week, I alternate between
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 3: stuff like body weight stuff, like pull-ups, chin-ups, dips. I
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 3: do L pull-ups where, you know, you stick your legs
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 3: out straight.
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 3: So you're working your abs at the same time you're
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 3: doing that. I do a bunch of different things, lower
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 3: back stuff, a lot of back extensions, reverse hyper stuff.
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 3: Sit-ups on that GHB machine where you're going all.
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 1: The way down.
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 1: I'm just happy with the results. And I'm of the
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 1: if it ain't broke, don't fix it mindset.
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 3: That's good.
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 3: As long as you're happy with the results. I would
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 3: just avoid a lot of heavy lifting with bench press.
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 3: I think bench press is so many people I know
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 3: that have fucked their shoulders up. Fuck their shoulders up
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 3: through bench press. I know a lot of bros are
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 3: going to get angry.
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I know. That's what I'm waiting for.
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 3: It's a little like, how much do you bench, bro?
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 3: But here's the thing. Like, we did this Sober October
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 3: thing where, you know, we had these stupid fitness challenges.
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 3: And then after Sober October was over, we all got drunk.
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 3: And so then we went out to my gym. And Ari, Tom,
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 3: and Bert were all trying to bench 225. And I...
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 3: I don't bench at all, and I did it 13 times. Like,
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 3: I don't bench, and I just.
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 1: Ari could pull up two plates?
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 3: No, he couldn't do it. Okay, that was— No, they
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 3: all got pinned.
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, 225 is no joke.
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Bert can do it now, but back then he
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 3: wasn't lifting.
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 1: You can't casually do two plates.
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 1: No one can.
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but I did without ever benching.
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 1: No, but I mean, like, you're someone who works Saturday.
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 1: So, like, if you're casual, there's no way you're putting
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 1: two plates.
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 3: They all got crushed.
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, of course. Wait, they thought they could do it?
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 3: Bert did. Bert definitely did.
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 1: But Bert's heavy, right?
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 3: How much does Bert weigh? He's like 250, probably.
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 1: Oh, Bert's like 250. Yeah, for sure.
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 3: Tom was bigger at the time, too.
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 1: Okay. I mean, it must have just collapsed.
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah. They got crushed. But the point is, it's like
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 3: doing kettlebells will help all those other things. Of course.
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 3: Because your whole body gets strong, and it's not an
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 3: unusual motion to do that. You could do it.
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 1: I just– I like the weights.
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 3: Dumb weights are great. There's nothing wrong with weights. I
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 3: just would be careful about benching. I think dumbbell benching
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 3: is probably better than barbell benching. And I just think
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 3: there's other ways to work your chest.
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 1: Okay. I'll talk to Monster Russ. That's my guy.
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 3: And there's a lot of people that don't even agree
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 3: with dips. Like my orthopedic surgeon that told me that
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 3: I need to get my shoulder operated on 15 years ago,
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 3: and I never did. He was like, got to stop
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 3: doing dips.
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 1: I go, why?
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 3: He goes, everybody I know that have fucked their shoulder
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 3: up did it through dips. I go, well, that doesn't
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 3: mean anything. I'm looking at him. I'm looking at him
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 3: and his body. I'm like, look at your Shut the
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 3: fuck up.
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 1: And look at all these gymnasts. They do dips 24-7. Exactly.
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 3: Just build up to it. Don't do too much. All
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 3: of it is, like, overworking your body. You have to, like,
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 3: slow progression is the key.
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 1: There is something fun about it. I do love doing
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 1: dips because you feel like you're flying. There's something about
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 1: it when.
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 3: You're just kind of, yeah, yeah.
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 1: What can I say?
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 3: But that's a great chest exercise. Dips are. Yeah. Along
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 3: with the push-ups. Do 100 push-ups a day and then
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 3: do dips.
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 1: But you're the– OK. We could talk about this also.
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 1: You're the one– can I tell you what you said
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 1: to me at the mothership about this?
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 3: What did I say?
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 1: You said you can't be jacked and be funny.
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 3: Well, you can. But you can't show it.
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 1: I meant like you– like at a certain point, you're
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 1: too jacked. There's a cost.
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 3: Well, there's definitely a cost to the way you look.
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 3: Like you look intimidating.
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 3: And that's not that funny for people.
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 1: And Roseanne was telling me when she was starting out,
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 1: she lost all this weight and people stopped laughing.
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 3: There's plenty of skinny, funny women.
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 1: Not in 1981. Are you calling Roseanne Barr a liar?
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 3: No, I just don't think that's what it was. I've
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 3: seen people lose weight and still be hilarious. There is
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 3: a mentality that people have. Like Kevin James, his fucking
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 3: agent said this to him once. I got furious. Kevin
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 3: was losing weight. He was trying to get in shape.
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 3: He was really self-conscious about his weight. And his agent said, Kevin,
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 3: when you lose weight, you're losing roles.
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 1: But that's true, though, because he's very much a specific character.
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 3: He could fucking do anything. He's a talented guy. It's
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 3: not like if he lost the weight, he wouldn't be
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 3: funny anymore. That dude's fucking funny.
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 1: Hold on, hold on. I'm not disrespecting Kevin James in
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 1: any way. Mad respect for him. Ball Cop, the greatest
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 1: comedy of all time.
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 3: It's a funny movie.
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 1: I believe you. I haven't seen it. Point being... He
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 1: is very much in people's mind a certain specific thing.
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 1: So if Kevin James stopped being that thing, I think
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 1: it's going to be a lot hard for a lot
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 1: of normies to come over with him to a different paradigm.
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying.
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 3: Perhaps. Come on. It would be a challenge, but I
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 3: think he'd still be hilarious. I do not think that
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 3: he is limited by his weight. Okay.
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 1: If Will Ferrell got like Hugh Jackman, do you think
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 1: he'd have the same roles?
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 3: He wouldn't necessarily have the same roles. He would still
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 3: be very funny. Yes, he would.
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 1: But you know perfectly well that there's lots of people.
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 3: It would be weird because he would be super jacked.
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 3: Like if he got the rock jacked. Right. It would
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 3: be weird.
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 1: People don't know how to deal with that stuff. So
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 1: the agent's not wrong.
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 3: Well, the agent's still not looking out for Kevin's health.
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 3: Was he that big?
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 1: He was big.
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 3: He was big and he didn't like it and he
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 3: was worried.
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 1: That's very fair.
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 1: But you don't have to go from... You could go slimmer.
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 1: You don't have to go to running peptides and stuff.
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 3: Right. You don't have to get jacked.
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 3: But maybe he wants to. You can. It could be done.
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 1: I mean, what's that guy who claims he's natty? That
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 1: Indian guy? Who was in, I think, The Avengers or something?
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 3: Oh, Camille?
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Was it him?
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 3: I don't think he claims he's natty. Does he?
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 5: No.
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 1: It's special exercises, Joe.
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 3: Come on. He doesn't even claim he's on testosterone replacement?
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 1: Don't you know that if you just do lateral raises? Yeah,
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 1: he claims that.
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 3: He has to. They all have to. I don't know
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 3: if that's real.
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 1: Yes, it does. Look him up.
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 3: He did a very funny bit about people being angry
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 3: at him for getting in shape.
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 1: Oh, okay.
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 3: He did a funny bit in his recent stand-up special
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 3: about that. Does he claim that he's natural? That's a
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 3: weird thing.
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 1: The one I'm thinking of is in a stand-up, the
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 1: one from the movies.
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he's a stand-up. He started out as a stand-up.
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 1: Oh, good for him.
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 3: Kamil Nanjiani, right?
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he started out as a stand-up. Yeah. And he's
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 3: doing stand-up again, and he just released a special.
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 1: What's his name? Claims92, the Thor.
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 3: They all do. No! That guy claims daddy? They have to.
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 1: Chris Hemsworth? I think he does.
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 3: Get the fuck out of here. That guy gained like
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 3: 60 pounds of solid muscle.
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 1: Well, that's because he's doing lateral raises, you fool.
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 3: Oh, I didn't know.
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 1: How do you know? You've never seen him put a
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 1: needle in his ass.
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 3: You're right, I don't.
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 1: He has personal trainers that teach him his second exercises.
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 3: You're right. I've been on testosterone replacement for a long time,
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 3: and I highly recommend it to anybody who wants to
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 3: stay in shape.
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 1: How long have you been on it?
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 3: Since I was like almost 40. I started with like
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 3: the cream, and then... Well, I noticed my... I was,
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 3: you know, I was training a lot. That was back
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 3: then I was doing jujitsu four or five days a
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 3: week and I was lifting.
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 1: That's harder than body.
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 3: It's hard.
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, of course.
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 3: And you're always tired. And, you know, I had a
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 3: doctor that specialized in that stuff. That's one of those
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 3: things was hormone replacement therapy and doing a lot of
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 3: it for people that had head injuries. Because people with
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 3: head injuries, people that have had CTE and a lot of, like,
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 3: you have damage to your pituitary gland. A lot of
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 3: times your brain is not, producing testosterone at the level
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 3: it's supposed to.
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 1: Oh, is that right?
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, your pituitary gland gets damaged from repeated head trauma.
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 3: That's one of the things that causes depression in a
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 3: lot of people that have had head trauma. It's like
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 3: your body's not making hormones anymore. So you're just like,
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 3: you're fucking lethargic all the time. That's a factor. His statements.
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 3: He described a year-long process with professional trainers, nutritionists, funded
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 3: by Marvel, daily workouts, precise calorie tracking, no refined sugar,
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 3: and minimum fats. In his 2019 Instagram post, he emphasized
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 3: the resources required but never mentioned PEDs, steroids, or denied
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 3: their use. So he never denied it.
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 1: Okay. He didn't deny it. Okay. I take it back.
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 1: I apologize.
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah. From a softer build at age 41, for fucking sure,
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 3: he got on testosterone. There was a lot of people
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 3: that were giving me shit about being on testosterone like
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 3: 15 years ago that are on it now.
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 1: No disrespect to him.
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 3: Well, there's nothing wrong with it. I just said I
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 3: do it.
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 1: No, that's the point.
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 3: Everybody should do it at a certain point.
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 1: It's just really funny. People are yelling at him, oh,
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 1: you're cheating. It's like cheating for what? Where's the test?
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 3: People are silly. People are silly. And they're just mad
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 3: that he didn't look like– he looked like them. He
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 3: was doughy. And now all of a sudden he looks
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 3: like a bro and they don't like it.
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but the thing that's kind of crazy is now
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 1: the kids in high school are hopping on.
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 3: That's crazy because you're going to destroy your endocrine system.
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 1: And also if you're peaking at 18, that's not going
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 1: to be good for your mental health.
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 3: Well, it's not just that. It's just like it kills
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 3: your dick. When you put a bunch of exogenous testosterone
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 3: in your body, your body stops making testosterone. And so
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 3: say if you're on a cycle for like a month,
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 3: two months, it will take you four months for your
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 3: body to get back to normal. I think that's the
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 3: ratio most people, if you're not taking like clomiphene or
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 3: any of these other things or HCG or something that
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 3: naturally ramps up your testosterone. I think they think that
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 3: the number is like double the time that you run
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 3: a cycle before you.
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 1: Get back to normal. It's also harder and harder. If
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 1: you keep running cycles, it gets harder and harder.
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 3: 100% because your body starts relying on it and your
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 3: endocrine system shuts down. And it's like, why do we
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 3: have to make testosterone? This guy's got more than a
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 3: normal human ever has.
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 3: And so we just stop.
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 1: And I think these numbers are through the roof with
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 1: the kids now.
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 3: Well, they all want to be like an influencer. They
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 3: all want to be jacked. It's just like you don't
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 3: understand the harm you're doing to your body.
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 1: But it's also the kind of thing where it's just
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 1: like– You shouldn't be comparing yourself to the guy on
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 1: Instagram or the gym. Compare yourself to the guy on
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 1: the plane next time you're at an airport. That's what
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 1: I do. That's what kind of helped me. When I
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 1: get on a flight, I'm like, how many of these people,
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 1: especially my age, are in good shape? It's going to
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 1: be one out of 100.
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 3: Well, the other thing is there's, especially when you're young,
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 3: there's plenty of stuff that you can do that's natural
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 3: and super beneficial and not dangerous, like creatine. Creatine is tremendous.
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 1: But you're not going to be a name. No one's
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 1: going to notice you on Instagram. That's the thing. They're
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 1: chasing the fame.
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 3: That's so sad.
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 1: It's very sad. It's very, I mean, some of these
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 1: guys look better than Schwarzenegger and they're 17. It's insane.
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 1: But it's just like, what's your future going to?
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 3: Well, you're not going to have kids, right? You're going
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 3: to be sterile. You're not going to have any sperm.
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 1: But you know, there was that thing about, they asked Olympians,
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 1: would you give up like 20 years of your life?
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 1: You're guaranteed a gold. And like 90% of them said yes.
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 3: I know. Well, look at Lindsey Vonn. I mean, she
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 3: knew that she had a blown ACL and she still skied.
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 1: Is that right?
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah. She blew her ACL out like a couple of
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 3: weeks before the Olympics and still decided to compete and
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 3: then shattered her leg with this horrible compound fracture.
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 1: Oh, my God.
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 3: Oh, you didn't know about that? Oh, yeah. She had
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 3: to get airlifted. She's had multiple surgeries. She's fucked for
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 3: a long time. Her leg broke in multiple places. She's
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 3: got rods and stuff in it. And leg breaks are
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 3: really scary because your body doesn't necessarily always heal from those.
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 3: Like sometimes the blood flow is not appropriate. It's not
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 3: what you need. And people get their legs amputated from
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 3: those things.
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 1: Jesus.
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Femur breaks are super dangerous.
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 1: I've never broken a bone.
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 3: Ever?
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 1: I know, right?
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 3: That's crazy.
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 3: Nothing?
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 1: Part of me is like, is this something I want
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 1: to try before I die?
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 3: No, it sucks.
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 1: Does it? But how bad is it?
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 3: Well, I broke my arm when I was seven. I
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 3: broke my forearm right here. I fell off a monkey
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 3: bar and snapped my forearm in half. That healed perfect.
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 3: But when you're a kid, they just put me in
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 3: a cast, and like six weeks later, I was good
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 3: to go. I broke my— fibula, the small bone of
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 3: my tibia in sparring. A friend of mine threw a
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 3: back kick at the same time. I was throwing a
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 3: kick and his heel hit my fibula and it cracked that.
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 3: But that was only a crack. I actually competed with that.
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 3: I put soccer pads on it. Those plastic soccer, I
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 3: taped soccer instep pads to that part of my I
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 3: didn't tell anybody. Oh, okay. Because it was a Taekwondo tournament,
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 3: so I had pants on.
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 1: Okay, yeah.
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 3: And so I put like a regular, these soccer pads,
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 3: I taped them to my calf, and then I put
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 3: the foam one on over that, and I competed.
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 1: Huh, okay.
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 3: I won the states that way. Okay, great.
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 1: Were you a national champion?
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 3: I won American Open, and I came in second place
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 3: in the U.S. Cup against the national champion, and I
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 3: think I should have beat him. I got a bad decision.
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 3: But I never won the national championships. But at the
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 3: time that I was getting ready to try to win
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 3: the national championships in 88, the problem was I had
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 3: already been disillusioned because I had started kickboxing. And I'd
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 3: already started realizing there's a lot of holes in Taekwondo.
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 1: Well, Taekwondo is like, with the rise of UFC, it's
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 1: really not good.
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 3: Well, it is if you know all the other stuff. Right, right.
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 3: Because those kicks are devastating.
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 3: They're devastating. And a guy who's a really good kicker,
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 3: like a Michael Venom Page, for instance, who's a karate
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 3: specialist who learned how to defend takedowns, they're really dangerous
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 3: because they have the ability to cover distance and kick
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 3: at range. And if you're not a good kicker and
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 3: you don't recognize what this guy's doing, They could fuck
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 3: you up. Right. But there was so many holes in
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 3: Taekwondo when it came to like punching to the face
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 3: and then leg kicks. I didn't realize like how many
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 3: holes there were in it until I started really getting
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 3: into kickboxing. So I was, by the time 88 rolled around,
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 3: I was already disillusioned.
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 5: Huh.
• 1:40:34
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 3: And then I was already starting to do standup. So
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 3: it was like, what am I doing with my life?
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 3: You know?
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 1: Oh, I got a bone to pick with you.
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 3: Ooh, I'm excited.
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 1: Oh, you, you set me up perfectly. Okay. You set
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 1: me up perfectly. I was, I, thank you, Joe Rogan.
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 1: Bridget Phetasy sat in this very chair. The chair I'm
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 1: farting in right now because I had some vintage Olean
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 1: chips from eBay. And this chair is going to be
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 1: a disaster.
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 3: That's the Trump chair.
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 5: I know.
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 1: And she told you that I'm starting to do stand-up.
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 1: And you said, that's great. He's so funny. He could
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 1: open for me. And then I was all excited about
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 1: this opportunity. And I wait a few weeks because I
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 1: was scared to, like, whatever. And you text me about
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 1: some meme.
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 3: And I go, first of all, I don't think I
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 3: said you could open for me. I highly doubt I
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 3: said that.
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 1: You did, but that's fine. I'm not holding you to it.
• 1:41:23
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying you said that. That's fine.
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 3: Maybe I was joking.
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 1: I'm not holding you to it. You were just encouraging. Okay.
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 3: Let's just leave it there. I think you're very funny.
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 1: You text me, that's a meme. I go, hey, I'm
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 1: going to do a standup. You go, you absolutely should.
• 1:41:36
  Speaker 1: You're very funny. I go, I have my set. What
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 1: should I do next? Do you know what you said?
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 3: What?
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 4: Nothing.
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 1: You left me on a ramp.
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 3: You're on your own, bitch.
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 1: What do you mean?
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 3: Because you got to figure it out. It's like, you know,
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 3: I want to start fighting. What should I do? You
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 3: know what to do. Go to a fucking gym. Figure
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 3: it out. Start training. I can't hold anybody's hand. Stand-up
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 3: is too hard for you to help someone in the beginning.
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 3: You've got to actually want to do it. Sure. So
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 3: you've got to go to open mics. You've got to
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 3: do stand-up. You've got to get ready, put a set together,
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 3: record it, review it.
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 1: Done.
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 3: Okay. Yeah. So you're doing stand-up all the time.
• 1:42:08
  Speaker 1: You're saying I should do it all the time?
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 3: You have to do it all the time. It's like
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 3: if you want to spar. You have to spar every week.
• 1:42:14
  Speaker 1: Do you know what everyone told me who I asked?
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 1: I asked like 10 big names, people who are names,
• 1:42:19
  Speaker 1: and they all said the same thing. You have to bomb.
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, bombing is good because it lets you realize
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 3: how difficult it is, and then you don't like the feeling,
• 1:42:27
  Speaker 3: so you work really hard.
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 1: And also you know you have to be ready for
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 1: that moment and how to recover from it.
• 1:42:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah. Failure. Failure, I think, in everything is good.
• 1:42:35
  Speaker 3: Losing is important. It's very important. It motivates you to
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 3: do better. You know, people don't like that feeling, but
• 1:42:42
  Speaker 3: a lot of uncomfortable feelings lead to growth. And that's
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 3: why they're important.
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 1: That's true.
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 3: Heartbreak, losing a job, getting fired, you know, all those
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 3: things are important. Okay. Yeah. Stand-up's important too. It's important
• 1:42:55
  Speaker 3: to have like bad sets.
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 1: Oh, I think you said bad sex.
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 3: Bad sets. Yes. So when was the last time you
• 1:43:01
  Speaker 3: went up?
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 1: I haven't done it for a while because I didn't
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 1: know what to do.
• 1:43:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you got to do it a lot. It's got
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 3: to be something that you're dedicated to. That's why I'm
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 3: saying you can't just.
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 1: Say what do I do?
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 3: Okay, that's fair. You got to do it.
• 1:43:12
  Speaker 1: That's very fair. I've been talking to Cal and he's
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 1: been very helpful.
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, just there's plenty of places we could perform. I mean,
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 3: Austin alone, on my street alone, on 6th Street, there's
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 3: like within a one block radius, there's like seven clubs.
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 1: I'm not arguing that.
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 3: I mean, this is the place. If you want to
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 3: do stand-up, this is the fucking place, man. I mean,
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 3: it's incredible right now. Okay, fair enough. My club alone
• 1:43:33
  Speaker 3: has two nights of open mic nights.
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 1: Is that true?
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 3: Sunday and Monday night are both open mic nights.
• 1:43:38
  Speaker 1: Okay, then I'm going to sign up.
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we have a real development program. The whole idea
• 1:43:41
  Speaker 3: is like to make it so that we have like
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 3: a real foundation of people that are coming up. And
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 3: that motivates all the people that are already doing well.
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 3: It's like, oh, these guys are like really working hard
• 1:43:51
  Speaker 3: and it gets everybody excited about working hard. And then
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 3: it motivates the people at the top saying, hey, these
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 3: young guys are really good. And then guys start getting
• 1:43:58
  Speaker 3: specials and like Cam Patterson just got an SNL. All
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 3: these things are happening for people from the club. So
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 3: it's like it's a great place.
• 1:44:06
  Speaker 1: Okay, no, that's fine. That's very fair.
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's not something that you can kind of
• 1:44:10
  Speaker 3: casually do every now and again. You can, but you
• 1:44:13
  Speaker 3: won't be as good as you will be if you
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 3: do it every week.
• 1:44:17
  Speaker 1: Callan said that as well. He's like, you have to
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 1: put in the time. This is not something that you
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 1: could do just on weekends.
• 1:44:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you can't, like, run around your block once a
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 3: month and think you can go do a marathon.
• 1:44:29
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:44:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you got to get in. And you got to,
• 1:44:33
  Speaker 3: the thing about stand-up is, like, You're making a mountain
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 3: one layer of paint at a time. It's not a
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 3: quick process. To become a stand-up, most people agree, and
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 3: it's not a hard, fast rule because it's depending upon
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 3: how much actual time you do and how much focus.
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 3: But the general rule is 10 years. Really? Yeah. The
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 3: general rule is 10 years. People don't really think of
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 3: you as being legit until you've been in it for
• 1:44:59
  Speaker 3: 10 years.
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 1: I don't know that I have 10 years.
• 1:45:02
  Speaker 3: I don't know if anybody has 10 years. I don't
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 3: know if the human race has 10 years. I see
• 1:45:07
  Speaker 3: those robots in China that are doing fucking Kung Fu.
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 1: Are there already?
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 3: Oh, my God. They just did this demonstration, this martial
• 1:45:13
  Speaker 3: arts demonstration with these robots on a stage. It's crazy
• 1:45:17
  Speaker 3: how fucking how they move.
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 1: I'm more worried about if anyone can use AI to
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 1: engineer a bioweapon.
• 1:45:25
  Speaker 4: Oh, that.
• 1:45:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's real.
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 1: Because there was a piece, a guy, I forget his name,
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 1: I apologize, where he's one of these big AI people.
• 1:45:32
  Speaker 1: And he goes, if you use the paid for AI,
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 1: he goes, I can tell it to write me code.
• 1:45:37
  Speaker 1: And it also knows idiosyncratic preferences. So it's better than
• 1:45:42
  Speaker 1: hiring a person. And that's today.
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 1: So what's going to happen in two years, three years?
• 1:45:47
  Speaker 1: How do you put guardrails on that? I don't think
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 1: you can.
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 3: I don't think you can. And there's a lot of
• 1:45:52
  Speaker 3: people that are resigning from a lot of these companies
• 1:45:54
  Speaker 3: that are saying we're doomed.
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I'm not a doom and gloom kind of guy,
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 1: but that I think is a much faster path toward
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 1: something happening than robots, kung fu robots.
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 3: Well, there's also automated weapons, weapon systems that are totally autonomous.
• 1:46:13
  Speaker 1: Is that right?
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 3: Yes. The government's working on that. And I believe there
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 3: was an issue, see if you can find this, with
• 1:46:20
  Speaker 3: one of the AI companies not willing to partner with
• 1:46:24
  Speaker 3: the U.S. or not willing to do something with autonomous
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 3: weapons programs. I think it's Anthropic.
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 4: Oh, wow.
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think Anthropic was like, uh, we don't think
• 1:46:37
  Speaker 3: that's good. And all the other ones are like, let's go.
• 1:46:40
  Speaker 1: Holy shit, yeah.
• 1:46:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well, the thing is, is China doing that? They
• 1:46:44
  Speaker 3: probably are. Anthropic is clashing with the Pentagon over AI use.
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 3: Here's what each side wants. Anthropic's relationship with the Department
• 1:46:50
  Speaker 3: of Defense is.
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 3: Is under review as the two sides negotiate over how
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 3: the company's AI models can be used Startup wants assurance
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 3: that its models will not be used for autonomous weapons
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 3: or mass surveillance. Oh my god. These pop-ups are brutal
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 3: Fuck you CNBC The DoD wants to use anthropic models
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 3: for all lawful use cases without limitation According to Emil Michael,
• 1:47:20
  Speaker 3: the Undersecretary of War for Research and Engineering. Holy crap. Yeah.
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 3: So this is what they're doing.
• 1:47:28
  Speaker 1: So which is worse, autonomous weapons or mass surveillance? I
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 1: think it's mass surveillance.
• 1:47:32
  Speaker 3: Both of them are terrible.
• 1:47:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, which is worse, though.
• 1:47:33
  Speaker 3: Because they work hand in glove. Both of them are terrible.
• 1:47:38
  Speaker 3: I mean, did you see Alex Karp? That interview that
• 1:47:42
  Speaker 3: he did.
• 1:47:42
  Speaker 1: Which one?
• 1:47:42
  Speaker 3: Where he was talking about Palantir and he's like, we're
• 1:47:45
  Speaker 3: going to, you know, and occasionally kill people. We're going
• 1:47:47
  Speaker 3: to use it to kill people.
• 1:47:48
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:47:49
  Speaker 3: That's what he said.
• 1:47:50
  Speaker 5: Right. Right.
• 1:47:51
  Speaker 3: But he was like openly saying, kill people. Like, this
• 1:47:55
  Speaker 3: is what we're doing. Like, what?
• 1:47:59
  Speaker 1: Did you see that big leak from Palantir? Which I
• 1:48:02
  Speaker 1: don't know if it's been verified or not. where they
• 1:48:05
  Speaker 1: were talking, Kim.com was the one who dropped this.
• 1:48:08
  Speaker 3: Yes, I did see that Kim.com tweeted about it, but
• 1:48:11
  Speaker 3: I didn't see if it was verified. What did he
• 1:48:13
  Speaker 3: say exactly?
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 1: It was a long, it was a long, long thing.
• 1:48:17
  Speaker 1: And it was very, because Palantir got hacked. He said
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 1: he doesn't have, I don't think it was verified that
• 1:48:23
  Speaker 1: this was legitimate, but these were the bullet points he
• 1:48:25
  Speaker 1: laid out. And it was extremely disturbing. It's not surprising
• 1:48:30
  Speaker 1: that a private company is going to be more effective
• 1:48:31
  Speaker 1: and efficient than the government at implementing what the government wants.
• 1:48:35
  Speaker 1: A lot of the things during COVID wasn't literally the government.
• 1:48:37
  Speaker 1: These corporations were more than happy to impose These kind of,
• 1:48:40
  Speaker 1: you know, if you don't get the vaccine so-called, you're
• 1:48:42
  Speaker 1: going to get fired.
• 1:48:43
  Speaker 3: Well, they were all having backdoor deals. Exactly.
• 1:48:46
  Speaker 1: But they were more than happy to do it.
• 1:48:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah. They were being incentivized.
• 1:48:49
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 1:48:50
  Speaker 3: Right. Which is fucking crazy. But the thing about this
• 1:48:55
  Speaker 3: AI stuff that no one realizes except for the engineers
• 1:48:58
  Speaker 3: that are deeply invested in this is that it's accelerating
• 1:49:02
  Speaker 3: at this tremendously rapid pace that they can't really control anything.
• 1:49:06
  Speaker 3: Chat GPT-5, I was reading this article. Chat GPT made
• 1:49:11
  Speaker 3: Chat GPT-5. They essentially tasked the AI to make a
• 1:49:16
  Speaker 3: better version of itself. Make sure that's true. I'm pretty
• 1:49:19
  Speaker 3: sure that's what they're saying.
• 1:49:20
  Speaker 1: Right now, for free, if you put any photo on
• 1:49:22
  Speaker 1: Grok Imagine, it animates it. And it looks realistic.
• 1:49:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:49:26
  Speaker 1: Like instantly.
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 3: There's a video of me and Keanu Reeves doing kung
• 1:49:29
  Speaker 3: fu in this room. Like he's dressed up like John Wick.
• 1:49:33
  Speaker 1: But it looks real, I'm sure.
• 1:49:34
  Speaker 3: It looks very real. It's like a scene from John Wick.
• 1:49:37
  Speaker 3: It's like we're doing movie-style kung fu in this room.
• 1:49:42
  Speaker 1: And the average person can't distinguish between what is on
• 1:49:44
  Speaker 1: their screen and what is outside their window.
• 1:49:46
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:49:47
  Speaker 1: And for the human brain, they're going to remember it
• 1:49:50
  Speaker 1: and perceive it as something that they had seen before.
• 1:49:52
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:49:52
  Speaker 1: It is a very scary thing. I remember something that
• 1:49:55
  Speaker 1: clicked in my head, Survivor Season 1. So that was
• 1:49:57
  Speaker 1: like 2000, I think it was, 2001. They had the
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 1: second to last episode. There's four contestants left. And they go,
• 1:50:03
  Speaker 1: next week on Survivor. And Sue turns to Kelly and
• 1:50:06
  Speaker 1: she goes, we got to vote out Richard. And I
• 1:50:09
  Speaker 1: was on a message board at the time. And one
• 1:50:11
  Speaker 1: of the people, they're like, who do you think is
• 1:50:12
  Speaker 1: going to be eliminated? One goes, oh, I think they're
• 1:50:14
  Speaker 1: going to vote out Richard. Did you hear what Sue said?
• 1:50:17
  Speaker 1: We all heard it. This wasn't eavesdropping. This was a
• 1:50:20
  Speaker 1: sound clip that the editor left in. There was nothing
• 1:50:23
  Speaker 1: else to hear. In fact, you could only hear what
• 1:50:25
  Speaker 1: Sue said to Kelly. And that was such a wake-up
• 1:50:27
  Speaker 1: moment for me. Like, holy shit, people really think they're
• 1:50:30
  Speaker 1: on that beach. And they heard something they weren't supposed to.
• 1:50:35
  Speaker 1: But you laugh. But there will be people who tell
• 1:50:38
  Speaker 1: you right now with a straight face, and I think
• 1:50:40
  Speaker 1: they could pass the lie detector test easily, that Trump
• 1:50:43
  Speaker 1: said we should inject bleach. And Trump said, I'm praising
• 1:50:48
  Speaker 1: very fine people, white nationalists. And you could play the tape.
• 1:50:50
  Speaker 1: They will not perceive it. They're not lying. And I
• 1:50:53
  Speaker 1: think that's a big hurdle for a lot of people
• 1:50:55
  Speaker 1: to accept. People honestly are perceiving things that you're not.
• 1:50:59
  Speaker 3: That's true. Yeah. And they're also only looking at headlines
• 1:51:03
  Speaker 3: or only looking at narratives. They get a tweet. They
• 1:51:06
  Speaker 3: read the tweet. Oh, my God, I can't believe they're
• 1:51:08
  Speaker 3: doing this. And then they put it down. They're too busy.
• 1:51:11
  Speaker 3: They're not going to do deep dives. It's not that
• 1:51:13
  Speaker 3: they're too busy.
• 1:51:14
  Speaker 1: It's that their preconception has been validated.
• 1:51:16
  Speaker 3: That, too.
• 1:51:16
  Speaker 1: They're not running a true-false filter. They're running an us-them filter.
• 1:51:19
  Speaker 3: Right. That's right.
• 1:51:21
  Speaker 1: Trump's thousands of times the Epstein files. There you go.
• 1:51:23
  Speaker 1: What else do I need to tell you?
• 1:51:24
  Speaker 3: That's it. Yeah, very fine people on both sides. I mean,
• 1:51:27
  Speaker 3: Obama said that during the campaign. When he said that
• 1:51:30
  Speaker 3: during the campaign, I'm like, that's crazy.
• 1:51:32
  Speaker 1: Well, Biden said that was his reason for running.
• 1:51:33
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:51:35
  Speaker 3: You don't remember that? Did you see in the Epstein
• 1:51:38
  Speaker 3: file someone said that Biden's dead? Well, they're also saying
• 1:51:41
  Speaker 3: that Epstein's alive. Yeah, that might be real.
• 1:51:44
  Speaker 1: I don't know how they pull that off. Here's the thing.
• 1:51:48
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry to interrupt you. Whenever I hear something that's
• 1:51:50
  Speaker 1: out there, I'm not saying it's ridiculous. I always say
• 1:51:52
  Speaker 1: to myself, what steps would need to be taken for
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 1: this to be true, right? So if you're going to
• 1:51:57
  Speaker 1: keep Epstein alive— And he's obviously extremely visible, his face
• 1:52:01
  Speaker 1: and very known. How do you keep that guy under wraps?
• 1:52:04
  Speaker 1: It would be the question I would have.
• 1:52:05
  Speaker 3: You move him to Israel and you get plastic surgery.
• 1:52:09
  Speaker 1: You think so? That's it? Yeah.
• 1:52:11
  Speaker 3: Look, Renee Zellweger looks different.
• 1:52:13
  Speaker 1: That's true.
• 1:52:14
  Speaker 3: And she's a fucking movie star. She kind of ruined
• 1:52:16
  Speaker 3: her career by making herself look prettier. Right?
• 1:52:20
  Speaker 1: No, she looks Asian now. She's got all those big cheeks.
• 1:52:23
  Speaker 3: She did something weird.
• 1:52:24
  Speaker 1: No, she got all those big cheeks and her eyes
• 1:52:25
  Speaker 1: are all small now.
• 1:52:26
  Speaker 3: What did she do? Let's take a look at what
• 1:52:27
  Speaker 3: she did.
• 1:52:27
  Speaker 1: She's all puffy-faced, yeah.
• 1:52:29
  Speaker 3: Like people said that Bradley Cooper did something, but he
• 1:52:32
  Speaker 3: came in here. He looked fucking completely normal. It's just
• 1:52:35
  Speaker 3: weird pictures online. Like maybe one day he was tired.
• 1:52:39
  Speaker 1: Renee Zellweger really did.
• 1:52:40
  Speaker 3: She did something. Bradley Cooper looks exactly like Bradley Cooper
• 1:52:45
  Speaker 3: to me. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Like she did something weird.
• 1:52:49
  Speaker 3: She was so cute.
• 1:52:50
  Speaker 1: She looks like that.
• 1:52:51
  Speaker 3: Look at her in 2009. She was so cute.
• 1:52:53
  Speaker 1: Who's that annoying lefty lady who's a podcaster?
• 1:52:56
  Speaker 3: I don't know. Yes, you do.
• 1:52:57
  Speaker 1: The one who was a real housewife and now she's.
• 1:52:59
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah. I don't know her name, but she's awful. Yeah,
• 1:53:01
  Speaker 3: she's a heel.
• 1:53:02
  Speaker 1: She does a great job being a heel.
• 1:53:04
  Speaker 3: She's great at that. Everyone, lock them all up.
• 1:53:06
  Speaker 1: Right, right, yeah.
• 1:53:07
  Speaker 3: No one wants to fuck her anymore and she's very angry.
• 1:53:09
  Speaker 1: That's what she looks like now.
• 1:53:10
  Speaker 3: Let me see that again. I'm just looking at other photos.
• 1:53:13
  Speaker 3: Other photos? Okay, the one on the far right. She's
• 1:53:16
  Speaker 3: still pretty. But there's definitely a change in her face.
• 1:53:21
  Speaker 1: Look at that fifth photo.
• 1:53:21
  Speaker 3: Jennifer Grey is a better example.
• 1:53:23
  Speaker 1: Well, she's got a nose job.
• 1:53:24
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 1:53:24
  Speaker 3: But after that nose job, her career kind of fucking stopped. Well, no.
• 1:53:27
  Speaker 1: Linda Evans is the worst of this. Can you pull
• 1:53:29
  Speaker 1: up Linda Evans?
• 1:53:30
  Speaker 3: Linda Evans from The Terminator?
• 1:53:31
  Speaker 1: From Dynasty.
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 4: Oh.
• 1:53:34
  Speaker 3: Linda Hamilton, Terminator.
• 1:53:35
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:53:35
  Speaker 3: Linda Evans is really- Linda Hamilton is fucking awesome in
• 1:53:38
  Speaker 3: Stranger Things. What did she do?
• 1:53:41
  Speaker 1: I mean, she looks horrific.
• 1:53:42
  Speaker 3: Well, she's old, man.
• 1:53:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but there's plenty of old people who don't look
• 1:53:45
  Speaker 1: like that.
• 1:53:46
  Speaker 3: She doesn't look like she did anything.
• 1:53:47
  Speaker 1: She sued.
• 1:53:47
  Speaker 3: She sued. She sued for a plastic surgery?
• 1:53:51
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:53:51
  Speaker 1: Look at that one right there, Jamie.
• 1:53:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:53:53
  Speaker 1: Pull that up.
• 1:53:53
  Speaker 4: It's bad.
• 1:53:57
  Speaker 1: It's a YouTube video.
• 1:54:00
  Speaker 3: Well, that's just, I don't see, where does it say?
• 1:54:03
  Speaker 1: The one right under that, the red one. See that? Yeah,
• 1:54:05
  Speaker 1: pull that up.
• 1:54:05
  Speaker 3: See? Finding peace and happiness growing older in the Northwest. Well,
• 1:54:10
  Speaker 3: that just looks like an older lady.
• 1:54:12
  Speaker 1: But she doesn't look like herself at all.
• 1:54:14
  Speaker 3: But she's older.
• 1:54:15
  Speaker 1: But she had a lot of, F'd up work. Maybe
• 1:54:18
  Speaker 1: she had some of it reversed.
• 1:54:19
  Speaker 3: Maybe.
• 1:54:20
  Speaker 1: You're saying that's not.
• 1:54:22
  Speaker 3: That one's not that shocking to me. That's just an
• 1:54:25
  Speaker 3: older lady.
• 1:54:25
  Speaker 1: I don't think... I think it's quite shocking. Because I
• 1:54:28
  Speaker 1: think it looks bad. No disrespect to her.
• 1:54:30
  Speaker 3: Uh... I mean, that's the difference between a 30-year-old lady
• 1:54:34
  Speaker 3: and a fucking 70-year-old lady.
• 1:54:36
  Speaker 1: There's plenty of 70-year-old ladies who don't look like protein bars.
• 1:54:41
  Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't think that's the best example.
• 1:54:43
  Speaker 3: I think that Renee's... Okay, what has Linda done to
• 1:54:46
  Speaker 3: her face? Right. Okay, so it might not even be true.
• 1:54:50
  Speaker 1: There's a lot of cases like this. You know, it's whatever.
• 1:54:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah. What was the point? How did we get on that?
• 1:54:57
  Speaker 1: What were we talking about? Keanu Reeves, the... Renee Zellweger?
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 5: I was looking up ChatGPT stuff and then switched to that.
• 1:55:05
  Speaker 3: Okay, yeah. ChatGPT 5. Did ChatGPT code ChatGPT 5?
• 1:55:11
  Speaker 5: I don't even know how to search that. I don't
• 1:55:13
  Speaker 5: know the right search term to look that up because.
• 1:55:15
  Speaker 3: I'm not getting anywhere. If you ask that question, it doesn't?
• 1:55:18
  Speaker 5: Chat GPT-5 makes itself better. There's something that I was
• 1:55:22
  Speaker 5: trying to dig into.
• 1:55:23
  Speaker 1: Is that singularity stuff?
• 1:55:24
  Speaker 5: It's called self-correcting loops or something like that. I'm not
• 1:55:27
  Speaker 5: getting anywhere with that.
• 1:55:29
  Speaker 3: That's not the right term. This was the concern about
• 1:55:32
  Speaker 3: AI was that eventually AI would become sentient and autonomous
• 1:55:36
  Speaker 3: and would create better versions of itself.
• 1:55:37
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 1:55:38
  Speaker 3: And it would do it very quickly.
• 1:55:39
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:55:40
  Speaker 3: And I think we're in that right now. I think
• 1:55:42
  Speaker 3: what we're getting- from these engineers is an indication that
• 1:55:47
  Speaker 3: the people that are deeply involved in this are fucking
• 1:55:49
  Speaker 3: disturbed by the power of this stuff. They essentially say
• 1:55:52
  Speaker 3: that they don't have a job anymore. They just kind
• 1:55:54
  Speaker 3: of show up and it does the work for them
• 1:55:57
  Speaker 3: and that this is far more potent than what the
• 1:56:01
  Speaker 3: general public is aware of and getting better all the time.
• 1:56:04
  Speaker 1: We're at the point now where Grok is a better
• 1:56:08
  Speaker 1: conversationalist and better at perceiving nuance and humor than the
• 1:56:12
  Speaker 1: average person. A lot of times if I have a
• 1:56:15
  Speaker 1: tweet and some cretin comes in with some response, I
• 1:56:18
  Speaker 1: will just say, hey, Grok, explain to this person such
• 1:56:20
  Speaker 1: and such and such. And I leave it for Grok
• 1:56:22
  Speaker 1: to be like a tart handler. And I do this
• 1:56:24
  Speaker 1: every single day. But the point is, if I'm being humorous,
• 1:56:28
  Speaker 1: maybe my jokes aren't that funny. Point being, Grok understands
• 1:56:31
  Speaker 1: that I'm being humorous. Even this person isn't or is
• 1:56:34
  Speaker 1: pretending not to. So what happens when the average person,
• 1:56:39
  Speaker 1: what are they bringing to the table?
• 1:56:40
  Speaker 3: Right. What are they bringing to the table?
• 1:56:42
  Speaker 1: What about artists too?
• 1:56:43
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:56:43
  Speaker 1: The AI arts getting better every single day. Like I
• 1:56:46
  Speaker 1: did a book where I used AI for the cover.
• 1:56:48
  Speaker 1: It's like, what are you going to do with, you're
• 1:56:51
  Speaker 1: going to have a certain number of people who are
• 1:56:52
  Speaker 1: good at like massaging it and, you know, having great ideas, but,
• 1:56:57
  Speaker 1: At a certain point, there's only so much you can do.
• 1:56:59
  Speaker 3: Did you see what the Doerr brothers did?
• 1:57:00
  Speaker 5: No.
• 1:57:01
  Speaker 3: They're these really good AI artists. They're the guys who
• 1:57:04
  Speaker 3: do all the intros to the Kill Tony videos.
• 1:57:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:57:07
  Speaker 3: They're fucking awesome. And they just made like a Hollywood movie.
• 1:57:11
  Speaker 3: And they did it in like a day. Right. With AI.
• 1:57:15
  Speaker 3: See if you can find that clip because it went
• 1:57:16
  Speaker 3: viral and everybody's kind of freaking out. They're like, Hollywood's done.
• 1:57:19
  Speaker 3: Because this clip is insane. It's so realistic looking.
• 1:57:22
  Speaker 1: The other thing is... By the time we're all wrapping
• 1:57:26
  Speaker 1: our heads around it, it's already six months ago.
• 1:57:28
  Speaker 4: Mm-hmm.
• 1:57:29
  Speaker 1: That's what's crazy.
• 1:57:29
  Speaker 3: And it's far better than it was then.
• 1:57:31
  Speaker 5: They put out another one today.
• 1:57:32
  Speaker 3: Let me see. I haven't even seen this yet.
• 1:57:34
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 1:57:35
  Speaker 3: Yes, sir. Go full screen. Bag it up.
• 1:57:45
  Speaker 1: This is all AI?
• 1:57:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:57:47
  Speaker 2: Oh! Holy crap. Holy crap.
• 1:58:06
  Speaker 5: Whoa.
• 1:58:07
  Speaker 1: What the fuck?
• 1:58:08
  Speaker 4: What the fuck?
• 1:58:40
  Speaker 3: Holy shit. Holy shit.
• 1:59:00
  Speaker 4: I don't. Wow.
• 1:59:01
  Speaker 1: I don't think it's a good idea. For humans, the casualties.
• 1:59:04
  Speaker 3: This is the other one they did.
• 1:59:05
  Speaker 1: Check this one out. I'm really busy. Can you get
• 1:59:07
  Speaker 1: Sophia today?
• 1:59:08
  Speaker 4: What?
• 1:59:08
  Speaker 3: No, I have a meeting. I can't.
• 1:59:11
  Speaker 4: Oh, shit.
• 1:59:12
  Speaker 1: This is all AI?
• 1:59:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:59:14
  Speaker 5: I'm recording what is being called a geomagnetic storm. This
• 1:59:17
  Speaker 5: is a phenomenon caused.
• 1:59:18
  Speaker 4: By a massive.
• 1:59:19
  Speaker 1: Holy shit. Stay tuned to this channel for continuous coverage.
• 1:59:59
  Speaker 3: Wow, look at her face. It looks so realistic.
• 2:00:05
  Speaker 1: I don't like this.
• 2:00:06
  Speaker 4: Sophia!
• 2:00:17
  Speaker 2: Mom!
• 2:00:18
  Speaker 4: I love you. I'm on my way.
• 2:00:19
  Speaker 1: Oh my God.
• 2:00:20
  Speaker 3: I need you to hide.
• 2:00:21
  Speaker 4: Get underground. I can't watch it. Oh, my God.
• 2:01:18
  Speaker 3: It's a great Cybertruck ad. People point out loud you
• 2:01:21
  Speaker 3: can hear the.
• 2:01:22
  Speaker 4: Engine, which is.
• 2:01:23
  Speaker 3: No but you can hear the engine when it does that.
• 2:01:27
  Speaker 3: It makes a weird humming noise. Good morning, sleeping beauty.
• 2:01:55
  Speaker 3: Why don't you get the president on the phone? We
• 2:02:05
  Speaker 3: have her.
• 2:02:06
  Speaker 1: I'll be right there. Oh my God. I don't like
• 2:02:11
  Speaker 1: this at all. I don't like that at all.
• 2:02:14
  Speaker 5: I don't think the sound was AI. Some of it
• 2:02:16
  Speaker 5: could have been, but it's mixed too good.
• 2:02:18
  Speaker 1: I don't think it's a good thing for people to
• 2:02:21
  Speaker 1: casually be seeing footage of people being shot in the face. Like,
• 2:02:26
  Speaker 1: I'm on YouTube.
• 2:02:26
  Speaker 3: Well, they've already got that.
• 2:02:28
  Speaker 1: I'm saying it's not a good thing.
• 2:02:29
  Speaker 3: Check out this video that I just sent you, Jamie.
• 2:02:31
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 2:02:32
  Speaker 1: There's a lot of, I watch a lot of police
• 2:02:33
  Speaker 1: body cam videos on YouTube.
• 2:02:34
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah. Oh, the real ones.
• 2:02:36
  Speaker 1: And it's just like, are we not having conversation, the
• 2:02:39
  Speaker 1: effects of the human mind of just watching real people
• 2:02:42
  Speaker 1: getting killed left and right all the time?
• 2:02:43
  Speaker 3: I know.
• 2:02:44
  Speaker 1: Especially young people.
• 2:02:45
  Speaker 3: There's a lot of that.
• 2:02:46
  Speaker 1: Like, I don't like seeing, I mean, watching.
• 2:02:48
  Speaker 3: Check this out.
• 2:02:48
  Speaker 1: Okay. Oh, Jesus.
• 2:02:49
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 2:03:06
  Speaker 3: I was just asking about the pencil trick.
• 2:03:09
  Speaker 1: This is crazy. This is crazy. Oh, there's Shane. Okay. Weird.
• 2:03:15
  Speaker 1: But I don't, like, you don't see anything wrong with
• 2:03:19
  Speaker 1: just casually showing planes flying into buildings?
• 2:03:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, all movies do that, though.
• 2:03:25
  Speaker 1: I don't think that's– yeah, but the thing is this
• 2:03:27
  Speaker 1: is how you kind of borrow the frog.
• 2:03:29
  Speaker 3: But they've always done that in action movies.
• 2:03:32
  Speaker 1: I don't think to that level is to have anyone
• 2:03:34
  Speaker 1: be able to make this the drop of a hat.
• 2:03:36
  Speaker 3: I'm not saying it should be banned.
• 2:03:37
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying I think at a certain point if
• 2:03:39
  Speaker 1: 24-7 we're seeing dozens of people getting killed, it's going
• 2:03:45
  Speaker 1: to have an effect on people's psyches.
• 2:03:49
  Speaker 3: No question.
• 2:03:50
  Speaker 1: And I don't think that's a good effect.
• 2:03:53
  Speaker 3: Well, it's what we have now before this, not good.
• 2:03:56
  Speaker 3: Do you know what else is fucked up?
• 2:03:57
  Speaker 1: We're not even talking about what this kind of porn
• 2:03:59
  Speaker 1: is going to look like.
• 2:04:00
  Speaker 3: Right, right. And porn with anybody like you or Jamie.
• 2:04:04
  Speaker 3: You and Jamie could be fucking in a video.
• 2:04:06
  Speaker 1: I'm talking about snuff films.
• 2:04:09
  Speaker 3: Oh, right, right. Yeah. You could make porn right now. 100%.
• 2:04:13
  Speaker 1: Where you're doing the girl, then you cut her head
• 2:04:15
  Speaker 1: off or cut body parts off.
• 2:04:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah, just pull out a shotgun as soon as you climax. No,
• 2:04:18
  Speaker 3: pull out a knife. Yeah, anything.
• 2:04:19
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 2:04:21
  Speaker 1: And it'll look really realistic and you have no way
• 2:04:23
  Speaker 1: of– we're still apes.
• 2:04:24
  Speaker 3: People probably already making that. Of course they are. They're
• 2:04:27
  Speaker 3: probably already making that.
• 2:04:28
  Speaker 1: Well, that I know. The investigators already don't have the
• 2:04:31
  Speaker 1: tools to distinguish between real videos of infants and AI
• 2:04:35
  Speaker 1: videos of infants. And this is– again, this has been
• 2:04:39
  Speaker 1: a bridge that's been crossed and– Like no one knows
• 2:04:43
  Speaker 1: what to say or do about it. It's just like
• 2:04:45
  Speaker 1: we're kind of just blinking and it's here.
• 2:04:47
  Speaker 3: Well, it's not just here. It's here and growing and
• 2:04:50
  Speaker 3: getting stronger all the time. And we're all just plowing
• 2:04:55
  Speaker 3: headfirst towards the cliff.
• 2:04:57
  Speaker 1: And what's going to happen when this kind of stuff
• 2:04:59
  Speaker 1: gets matched up with psychedelics?
• 2:05:03
  Speaker 3: Well, it's not just that. It's like what happens when
• 2:05:06
  Speaker 3: this stuff starts running all of our resources, running our economy,
• 2:05:10
  Speaker 3: running everything?
• 2:05:12
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 2:05:12
  Speaker 3: Because that's what's going to happen. It's going to be
• 2:05:14
  Speaker 3: our government.
• 2:05:15
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean, who was that, the creepy line guy?
• 2:05:19
  Speaker 3: Creepy line?
• 2:05:19
  Speaker 1: There was that documentary, The Creepy Line. Robert something Malone,
• 2:05:22
  Speaker 1: I think his name was. He's an academic. He went
• 2:05:26
  Speaker 1: through Google and he goes, look, if I'm Google, right,
• 2:05:30
  Speaker 1: or I'm Facebook, and I have people who are like
• 2:05:33
  Speaker 1: Trump and people who are like Hillary. So if I
• 2:05:36
  Speaker 1: just put out, hey, you should vote. And send it
• 2:05:39
  Speaker 1: just to the Hillary people. I'm not on paper endorsing Hillary. Okay,
• 2:05:42
  Speaker 1: Robert Epstein. Robert Epstein, thank you.
• 2:05:44
  Speaker 3: Oh, that guy.
• 2:05:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 2:05:45
  Speaker 3: We've had that guy on multiple times.
• 2:05:46
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 2:05:46
  Speaker 1: But then you're going to be getting out that vote
• 2:05:49
  Speaker 1: in the direction you want.
• 2:05:50
  Speaker 3: Well, his concern is Google searches. Sure. So like if
• 2:05:54
  Speaker 3: you search Trump, it's all negative stories.
• 2:05:56
  Speaker 1: If you search Hillary, it's all positive stories. I've talked
• 2:05:59
  Speaker 1: to him also about the Facebook stuff. If you're promoting
• 2:06:01
  Speaker 1: go and vote and you have this group versus that group,
• 2:06:03
  Speaker 1: it could nudge it. Very easily.
• 2:06:05
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 2:06:05
  Speaker 1: So that technology is already here and been used.
• 2:06:07
  Speaker 3: And been used. Right. So that's 10 years ago. That's
• 2:06:09
  Speaker 3: real election manipulation.
• 2:06:11
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 2:06:11
  Speaker 3: That's already legal and being used. Right. For whatever reason.
• 2:06:15
  Speaker 1: Well, you know what reason.
• 2:06:16
  Speaker 3: But also curated search engines are a real fucking problem. Right.
• 2:06:20
  Speaker 3: If you're hiding certain information. Like I noticed that during
• 2:06:24
  Speaker 3: the pandemic, there was a story about a doctor in
• 2:06:26
  Speaker 3: Florida that got vaccinated and then really quickly afterwards had
• 2:06:31
  Speaker 3: a stroke and died. And I read the story, and
• 2:06:33
  Speaker 3: a lot of people were concerned about it. And then
• 2:06:35
  Speaker 3: I tried to find it on Google. I could not
• 2:06:38
  Speaker 3: find it. I could not find it. I looked everywhere.
• 2:06:40
  Speaker 3: Then I looked on DuckDuckGo, and I found it immediately.
• 2:06:43
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 2:06:44
  Speaker 3: It was in the first page. And then somewhere along
• 2:06:47
  Speaker 3: the line, DuckDuckGo got weird too.
• 2:06:49
  Speaker 1: Oh, Jesus.
• 2:06:50
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 2:06:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 2:06:51
  Speaker 3: So it's like they realized that people were finding things
• 2:06:53
  Speaker 3: on DuckDuckGo. Is DuckDuckGo curated, or did they just have
• 2:06:58
  Speaker 3: open source resources? What are they saying? And then I
• 2:07:02
  Speaker 3: started using Brave, and Brave was showing me things that
• 2:07:06
  Speaker 3: other search engines weren't showing me.
• 2:07:08
  Speaker 1: But then the other hand, you have the problem of,
• 2:07:11
  Speaker 1: is it showing you things that are just not true?
• 2:07:14
  Speaker 3: Right. But I was searching for a very specific story,
• 2:07:17
  Speaker 3: and I couldn't find it. Right, right. You're definitely going
• 2:07:19
  Speaker 3: to get a lot of that, especially if there's like, look,
• 2:07:22
  Speaker 3: the Hunter Biden laptop story.
• 2:07:23
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 2:07:23
  Speaker 3: 51 different former intelligence agents to say that it was
• 2:07:26
  Speaker 3: Russian disinformation.
• 2:07:27
  Speaker 1: It's not curated, okay.
• 2:07:28
  Speaker 3: Not curated in the sense of building a personalized filter
• 2:07:30
  Speaker 3: bubble based on user history, but it does curate results
• 2:07:33
  Speaker 3: by ranking.
• 2:07:33
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 2:07:33
  Speaker 3: I don't know how you can really avoid that, though, right?
• 2:07:35
  Speaker 3: That's curating. Indexing and filtering from hundreds of sources, including Bing.
• 2:07:40
  Speaker 3: Bing's not good.
• 2:07:41
  Speaker 1: But it has to put things in order somehow.
• 2:07:42
  Speaker 3: To provide what it deems relevant, what it deems relevant.
• 2:07:46
  Speaker 3: Unlike Google, it avoids user tracking and personalization, providing a
• 2:07:50
  Speaker 3: more neutral, non-personalized search experience, but also... Curated by ranking.
• 2:07:57
  Speaker 3: No user profiling. Does not store search history or... All
• 2:08:00
  Speaker 3: I know is that there was a difference in the
• 2:08:02
  Speaker 3: way it worked for me. It doesn't mean that it's.
• 2:08:05
  Speaker 1: There has to be some ranking process. Yeah. It can't just,
• 2:08:08
  Speaker 1: you know, it's going to have things in order no
• 2:08:09
  Speaker 1: matter what search.
• 2:08:10
  Speaker 4: Engine it uses.
• 2:08:10
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 2:08:10
  Speaker 3: When you're looking for something very specific.
• 2:08:12
  Speaker 1: That is, yeah.
• 2:08:13
  Speaker 3: Google would not show me that article. I put in
• 2:08:17
  Speaker 3: all the facts that I could not find that all
• 2:08:19
  Speaker 3: it was saying was the benefits of getting the COVID vaccine.
• 2:08:21
  Speaker 1: Has it gotten better or worse?
• 2:08:22
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 2:08:23
  Speaker 1: We don't know. How would we know?
• 2:08:24
  Speaker 3: I don't know. I mean, but you should be disturbed
• 2:08:27
  Speaker 3: at Robert Epstein's work. Because Robert Epstein's work shows that
• 2:08:31
  Speaker 3: with just this curated search result, you can shift all
• 2:08:35
  Speaker 3: these centrist voters, all these middle-of-the-pack voters, these swing voters.
• 2:08:40
  Speaker 3: You can shift them by.
• 2:08:42
  Speaker 1: I think it's 2 percent.
• 2:08:43
  Speaker 3: I think it's larger.
• 2:08:44
  Speaker 1: And the point being Trump won– It.
• 2:08:46
  Speaker 3: Was 9 percent or something crazy like that.
• 2:08:48
  Speaker 1: Let's be conservative and say two. Trump won one and
• 2:08:50
  Speaker 1: a half.
• 2:08:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah.
• 2:08:52
  Speaker 1: So it's– and I don't think things are looking good
• 2:08:54
  Speaker 1: for the Republicans going forward.
• 2:08:55
  Speaker 3: Well, it doesn't look good for the midterms, right? I mean,
• 2:08:58
  Speaker 3: this ICE stuff is doing a great job for that
• 2:09:00
  Speaker 3: because a lot of people are like, hey, we're moving
• 2:09:02
  Speaker 3: towards fascism.
• 2:09:03
  Speaker 1: And the perception of the economy.
• 2:09:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 2:09:05
  Speaker 1: The thing with the ICE stuff, it's like people, you know,
• 2:09:08
  Speaker 1: voters can have contradictory perspectives. Like they want to get
• 2:09:11
  Speaker 1: rid of illegal aliens.
• 2:09:13
  Speaker 3: But.
• 2:09:14
  Speaker 1: Don't force them out. It's like, what are you going
• 2:09:15
  Speaker 1: to do? Send them a strongly worded letter?
• 2:09:17
  Speaker 3: Well, I think the real problem is they're not willing
• 2:09:19
  Speaker 3: to address the fact that these are paid protests and agitators. Sure.
• 2:09:24
  Speaker 3: And that these people, it's not, this is not an
• 2:09:25
  Speaker 3: organic thing where people are taking to the streets. They're
• 2:09:27
  Speaker 3: literally being paid. These people have come out and said,
• 2:09:30
  Speaker 3: you get X amount of money. You get a hundred
• 2:09:32
  Speaker 3: dollars a day. If it's cold out, you get more money.
• 2:09:34
  Speaker 3: One of the things people were saying that I don't
• 2:09:36
  Speaker 3: know if it's true at all. I was like, this
• 2:09:37
  Speaker 3: might be horseshit. They were saying they gave them decibel
• 2:09:40
  Speaker 3: meters to see how loud they were yelling. Protesters.
• 2:09:45
  Speaker 4: Really?
• 2:09:46
  Speaker 3: They were providing protesters with these decibel meters for them
• 2:09:50
  Speaker 3: in order to get paid. They had to be yelling
• 2:09:52
  Speaker 3: at a certain decibel. I was like, this sounds like disinformation. Yeah,
• 2:09:55
  Speaker 3: I feel like that would- How much are those things?
• 2:09:58
  Speaker 3: How much is a fucking decibel meter? That sounds like
• 2:10:00
  Speaker 3: a problem in terms of cost.
• 2:10:03
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 2:10:03
  Speaker 1: If I had that, I'd sell it on eBay, right? Right.
• 2:10:05
  Speaker 3: If I'm a protester. If you have thousands of people
• 2:10:08
  Speaker 3: and you're providing them with these.
• 2:10:10
  Speaker 1: Decibel meters- There would be receipts out the wazoo, I
• 2:10:11
  Speaker 1: would think.
• 2:10:11
  Speaker 3: Right. Right. Yeah, it sounded like horseshit. But there's a
• 2:10:14
  Speaker 3: lot of horseshit out there. There's a lot of people
• 2:10:17
  Speaker 3: that they do interviews and they just make up fake
• 2:10:20
  Speaker 3: stuff just for clickbait.
• 2:10:21
  Speaker 1: But the thing is there, I think people are, I
• 2:10:24
  Speaker 1: agree with you, are like over ice. But it's like,
• 2:10:26
  Speaker 1: what's your plan B?
• 2:10:27
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 2:10:29
  Speaker 1: Amnesty? Like, if that's your argument, that's fine. But it's
• 2:10:31
  Speaker 1: just like, it's not a tenable situation. I mean, look
• 2:10:34
  Speaker 1: what's going on overseas. Right. What are you going to do? Like,
• 2:10:37
  Speaker 1: right now there's a guy who's running against Farage from
• 2:10:39
  Speaker 1: the right of him. And it's like, you're going to
• 2:10:41
  Speaker 1: break up that vote. like it's called Restore Britain.
• 2:10:44
  Speaker 3: Oh, what is he saying?
• 2:10:45
  Speaker 1: He's saying he's like, Farage is too soft. We're going
• 2:10:47
  Speaker 1: to deport them all, blah, blah, blah. It's just like, like,
• 2:10:51
  Speaker 1: how would you like, fine. I understand that's your argument. Literally,
• 2:10:55
  Speaker 1: how are you going to do that without mass enforcement?
• 2:10:57
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying I'm for it or against it. I'm
• 2:10:59
  Speaker 1: just saying, what is your plan? It's not, it's easy
• 2:11:02
  Speaker 1: to promise. If I'm in a country, that's awesome. I
• 2:11:04
  Speaker 1: don't want to go back to my shithole. I'm going
• 2:11:07
  Speaker 1: to do whatever I can legally and sometimes extra legally.
• 2:11:10
  Speaker 1: to make sure I'm staying.
• 2:11:11
  Speaker 3: Especially people over there that have been encouraged to go there.
• 2:11:14
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 2:11:14
  Speaker 3: And then they bend the laws in order to kind
• 2:11:16
  Speaker 3: of hide their crimes. Right.
• 2:11:18
  Speaker 1: One of the best things that happened to me was
• 2:11:22
  Speaker 1: December 31st, 2024. So it was the beginning of 2025.
• 2:11:25
  Speaker 1: I was on Twitter and you heard about these grooming
• 2:11:29
  Speaker 1: gangs overseas. And even me, who writes a lot about
• 2:11:32
  Speaker 1: the nature of evil, was naive because when you hear
• 2:11:35
  Speaker 1: the term grooming, I thought, okay, these high school girls
• 2:11:38
  Speaker 1: have these you know, boyfriends from different countries and were
• 2:11:41
  Speaker 1: like 30, whatever, and it's gross and whatever. And then
• 2:11:45
  Speaker 1: someone posted the receipts of the legal cases. These were girls, children, eight-year-olds, 10, whatever,
• 2:11:51
  Speaker 1: being violated and beaten with baseball bats. They were complaining
• 2:11:56
  Speaker 1: to police. The police said everything's fine, like really graphic stuff.
• 2:11:59
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, how stupid I was to think grooming
• 2:12:03
  Speaker 1: meant what anyone else thinks of grooming. These are rape
• 2:12:06
  Speaker 1: and torture gangs. And then Elon saw my tweet, and
• 2:12:09
  Speaker 1: he blew a gasket. And then they kind of talked
• 2:12:11
  Speaker 1: about it in Parliament, so it was a great way
• 2:12:12
  Speaker 1: to start 2025. But, like, where is it all going?
• 2:12:16
  Speaker 1: People are upset, but Kirstein was not in jail. Things
• 2:12:20
  Speaker 1: he's in trouble for aren't stuff like this. The entire
• 2:12:23
  Speaker 1: Labour Party voted against further inquiry. It's like some of
• 2:12:26
  Speaker 1: these guys got prison sentences, but they're not anywhere near proportionate.
• 2:12:29
  Speaker 1: Why are they still in the UK?
• 2:12:31
  Speaker 3: I just don't understand it. I just don't understand, like,
• 2:12:33
  Speaker 3: what's the endgame there?
• 2:12:35
  Speaker 1: Right, right.
• 2:12:37
  Speaker 3: Is it the destruction of the UK? What's the end game?
• 2:12:42
  Speaker 1: Well, if that isn't their goal, that's sure where they
• 2:12:45
  Speaker 1: are headed toward.
• 2:12:45
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 2:12:46
  Speaker 3: If you were trying to destroy the UK, that's how
• 2:12:48
  Speaker 3: you would do it. Bring in violent migrants. Let them
• 2:12:50
  Speaker 3: do violent crimes. Don't prosecute them. Prosecute people for complaining
• 2:12:54
  Speaker 3: about it online.
• 2:12:55
  Speaker 1: And don't bring them into your country and kind of
• 2:12:59
  Speaker 1: assimilate them.
• 2:12:59
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 2:13:00
  Speaker 1: Encourage them to not assimilate.
• 2:13:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah.
• 2:13:03
  Speaker 1: So I was just there in August. As bad as
• 2:13:05
  Speaker 1: people think it is, it's even worse.
• 2:13:07
  Speaker 3: Really?
• 2:13:08
  Speaker 1: There was a theater a block away from the House
• 2:13:13
  Speaker 1: of Parliament, and they were bragging that seeing their shows
• 2:13:15
  Speaker 1: are safe. Not fun for the whole family. Not, you know, oh,
• 2:13:20
  Speaker 1: this is educational. You're not going to get murdered if
• 2:13:22
  Speaker 1: you come see a play here. That really shouldn't be
• 2:13:25
  Speaker 1: a selling point when you're going to the movies or theater,
• 2:13:27
  Speaker 1: excuse me.
• 2:13:28
  Speaker 3: That's so crazy.
• 2:13:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And it's only getting worse now. So it's, I don't,
• 2:13:34
  Speaker 1: but here's the other thing. Let's talk about America, right?
• 2:13:37
  Speaker 1: If you want to get rid of all these illegal immigrants,
• 2:13:41
  Speaker 1: what is your mechanism? Because what Trump is doing is
• 2:13:44
  Speaker 1: too much. There's no, the alternative is to make it
• 2:13:48
  Speaker 1: difficult for them so they re-migrate. But there's plenty of
• 2:13:50
  Speaker 1: people who would, I can certainly understand it. I'd rather
• 2:13:52
  Speaker 1: be an illegal immigrant in America than go back to
• 2:13:55
  Speaker 1: whatever hellhole.
• 2:13:56
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 2:13:57
  Speaker 3: I found the video of talking about decimeters.
• 2:13:59
  Speaker 5: They were fucking around.
• 2:14:00
  Speaker 1: That was a joke, okay.
• 2:14:01
  Speaker 5: Grok says they were satirizing.
• 2:14:05
  Speaker 3: Oh, paid protesters with the... The decibel meters. Yeah, the
• 2:14:11
  Speaker 3: decibel meters. That sounds ridiculous.
• 2:14:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the whole thing was a joke. Yeah.
• 2:14:17
  Speaker 3: That makes sense. Because I was like, there's no way.
• 2:14:19
  Speaker 3: There's no way they're giving people decibel meters. But that's
• 2:14:21
  Speaker 3: also just clickbait.
• 2:14:22
  Speaker 1: What would you do with the illegal immigrants?
• 2:14:24
  Speaker 3: That's a good question. You know, the real problem is
• 2:14:29
  Speaker 3: that they let 10 million people plus in over the
• 2:14:33
  Speaker 3: last four years. And that's the thing that no one
• 2:14:37
  Speaker 3: wants to address. Like the only reason why there is
• 2:14:39
  Speaker 3: this problem is because we had a fucking open border
• 2:14:42
  Speaker 3: for four years where they actually encouraged people to come
• 2:14:44
  Speaker 3: in and they let in a bunch of violent criminals
• 2:14:47
  Speaker 3: and people have been killed. Women have been raped. Children
• 2:14:50
  Speaker 3: have been killed. This is, and they want to hide
• 2:14:53
  Speaker 3: that data because they don't want to be held responsible
• 2:14:55
  Speaker 3: for what they did over the last four years. The
• 2:14:58
  Speaker 3: fact that that doesn't get the kind of outrage that
• 2:15:02
  Speaker 3: it should, but then an ICE protester shooting a guy
• 2:15:06
  Speaker 3: who is armed. Do you know what really is going
• 2:15:09
  Speaker 3: on with the gun community about that guy who got
• 2:15:12
  Speaker 3: that Alex Pretty guy?
• 2:15:13
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 2:15:13
  Speaker 3: Do you know the story?
• 2:15:14
  Speaker 1: Well, I know that what's his name got fired correctly.
• 2:15:17
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 2:15:18
  Speaker 1: For saying, well, you shouldn't bring guns to fight the police.
• 2:15:20
  Speaker 1: And all the 2A people like, are you crazy? The
• 2:15:22
  Speaker 1: whole point of the 2A is against the police.
• 2:15:23
  Speaker 3: Right. But that guy. So they disarmed him. He was
• 2:15:28
  Speaker 3: carrying a Sig P320. Sig P320s are notorious for accidentally discharging.
• 2:15:35
  Speaker 3: It appears, at least in videos that I've seen, and
• 2:15:38
  Speaker 3: some people seem to verify this, that as one of
• 2:15:41
  Speaker 3: the officers pulls the gun from him and walks away
• 2:15:45
  Speaker 3: with it, it accidentally discharges. They think this guy has
• 2:15:50
  Speaker 3: a gun still because they just pulled a gun from him.
• 2:15:52
  Speaker 3: A gun went off. They think they're in a gunfight.
• 2:15:54
  Speaker 3: Everything's happening split second. They empty on that guy. The
• 2:15:57
  Speaker 3: two guys who killed him, both of them Mexican guys.
• 2:16:00
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 2:16:01
  Speaker 3: Which is crazy.
• 2:16:02
  Speaker 1: Did you not see them?
• 2:16:03
  Speaker 3: I didn't see. They showed their actual faces? Oh, yeah, yeah.
• 2:16:05
  Speaker 1: It's on my Twitter. If you scroll back a few days, Jamie,
• 2:16:07
  Speaker 1: they look like I said the village people. It looks
• 2:16:09
  Speaker 1: straight up village people.
• 2:16:10
  Speaker 3: But what's crazy is how many Latinos are in ICE.
• 2:16:13
  Speaker 1: Why is that crazy? Trump got the Latino vote.
• 2:16:16
  Speaker 3: Well, it's not just that. It's a really well-paying job.
• 2:16:19
  Speaker 5: Sure.
• 2:16:19
  Speaker 3: And they give you a big bonus to sign. What
• 2:16:22
  Speaker 3: is the bonus when you sign for ICE? I think
• 2:16:25
  Speaker 3: it's like a great incentive.
• 2:16:27
  Speaker 1: But here's the other thing.
• 2:16:27
  Speaker 3: I think it's a lot of money.
• 2:16:28
  Speaker 1: Why that debate drives me crazy. If there's a hospital, right,
• 2:16:32
  Speaker 1: and there's a nurse who's killing patients, which happens, that happens.
• 2:16:35
  Speaker 1: You have these like black widow situations. No one's going
• 2:16:38
  Speaker 1: to say shut down the hospital or stop medicine. So
• 2:16:42
  Speaker 1: even if this was a first degree murder, let's assume
• 2:16:45
  Speaker 1: for the sake of argument, That doesn't mean you should
• 2:16:47
  Speaker 1: abolish ICE. It just means that guy should go to jail.
• 2:16:49
  Speaker 1: One is one thing, I have to do the other.
• 2:16:50
  Speaker 3: Look at this. Signing bonus of up to $ 50, 000. $ 60, 000
• 2:16:56
  Speaker 3: in student loan repayment, up to 25% in premium pay.
• 2:17:01
  Speaker 3: I don't know what that means.
• 2:17:02
  Speaker 1: Probably overtime, maybe?
• 2:17:04
  Speaker 3: Premium pay?
• 2:17:05
  Speaker 4: 25%?
• 2:17:05
  Speaker 3: What does that mean? I don't know. But either way,
• 2:17:08
  Speaker 3: just the $ 50, 000 bonus. How many people are willing to
• 2:17:11
  Speaker 3: take that job just for that? And then $ 60, 000 in
• 2:17:13
  Speaker 3: student loan repayment?
• 2:17:15
  Speaker 1: And it's great on your resume.
• 2:17:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well, you get your student loan paid off and
• 2:17:18
  Speaker 3: you get a $ 50, 000 bonus. Holy shit.
• 2:17:21
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 2:17:21
  Speaker 3: You can get a lot of people to do that.
• 2:17:23
  Speaker 1: And job security.
• 2:17:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah. And you can wear a mask.
• 2:17:25
  Speaker 1: It seems like a job like macho guys would enjoy.
• 2:17:28
  Speaker 3: For sure. And if you're desperate for work and if
• 2:17:30
  Speaker 3: you can't find work and then all of a sudden
• 2:17:32
  Speaker 3: this is like an answer to all your financial problems.
• 2:17:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 2:17:35
  Speaker 3: A lot of people are going to do it. But again,
• 2:17:36
  Speaker 3: what's the- You're also like very under-trained. Like they only
• 2:17:40
  Speaker 3: train for seven weeks.
• 2:17:41
  Speaker 4: Is that right?
• 2:17:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 2:17:42
  Speaker 1: But what's the answer though? No one has an answer.
• 2:17:44
  Speaker 3: Right. That's a good question. Because, yeah, well, there are
• 2:17:47
  Speaker 3: a lot of violent criminals in this country that did
• 2:17:49
  Speaker 3: get in over the last four years that do need
• 2:17:51
  Speaker 3: to be removed. So what are you going to do?
• 2:17:52
  Speaker 1: But what do you do about the non-violent ones?
• 2:17:54
  Speaker 3: Well, here's the thing. There was an interesting statistic. I
• 2:17:58
  Speaker 3: think I sent it to you, Jamie, where they were
• 2:18:00
  Speaker 3: saying only 14% of these people that they've arrested are
• 2:18:03
  Speaker 3: violent criminals. Okay. But What they didn't say is that
• 2:18:09
  Speaker 3: 60% of the people that they arrested had criminal history.
• 2:18:12
  Speaker 3: And when you say nonviolent, nonviolent meaning what? What about
• 2:18:16
  Speaker 3: strong-arm robbery? What about a guy pulls a gun on you?
• 2:18:19
  Speaker 3: How are you classifying?
• 2:18:20
  Speaker 1: That's got to be violent.
• 2:18:21
  Speaker 3: I bet it's not if you don't cause violence.
• 2:18:24
  Speaker 1: No, there's no way armed robbery isn't a violent crime.
• 2:18:28
  Speaker 3: If you do not cause violence, I wonder if they're
• 2:18:30
  Speaker 3: categorizing it as violence. Like, if you do not shoot someone,
• 2:18:33
  Speaker 3: stab someone, beat someone, so you're not convicted of a
• 2:18:36
  Speaker 3: violent crime, you're convicted of robbery.
• 2:18:38
  Speaker 1: Because they're doing everything in their power to make the
• 2:18:41
  Speaker 1: gun violence numbers as high as possible. So if there's
• 2:18:44
  Speaker 1: any opportunity where a gun is involved, that will be
• 2:18:47
  Speaker 1: counted as gun violence.
• 2:18:48
  Speaker 3: Perhaps, but you could rob people with a knife. You
• 2:18:51
  Speaker 3: know what I mean? Does that count? If you pull
• 2:18:52
  Speaker 3: a knife on someone and you rob them, is that
• 2:18:54
  Speaker 3: considered a violent crime?
• 2:18:56
  Speaker 1: I bet you it is.
• 2:18:57
  Speaker 3: I wonder. But either way, the.
• 2:19:00
  Speaker 3: The misleading aspect of the article was that only 40
• 2:19:04
  Speaker 3: percent were violent criminals. But is that OK that the
• 2:19:07
  Speaker 3: other fucking 46 percent are breaking into people's houses and
• 2:19:12
  Speaker 3: robbing cars? And what about that?
• 2:19:15
  Speaker 1: But what about the 40 percent who just shouldn't be here?
• 2:19:17
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 2:19:18
  Speaker 1: That's the question.
• 2:19:19
  Speaker 3: Right. They all shouldn't be there.
• 2:19:20
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 2:19:20
  Speaker 1: So what are you going to do?
• 2:19:21
  Speaker 3: Right. OK, so here it is. 400,000 ICE arrests in
• 2:19:24
  Speaker 3: Trump's first year. About 60% involved individuals with some criminal
• 2:19:28
  Speaker 3: charges or convictions. However, only 14% had violent crime records,
• 2:19:32
  Speaker 3: including as homicide, 2,100 arrests, sexual assault, 5,400, robbery, 2,700.
• 2:19:38
  Speaker 3: So robbery. Nearly 40% lacked any criminal record detained for
• 2:19:44
  Speaker 3: civil immigration violations.
• 2:19:46
  Speaker 1: Wait, can we skip ahead? Look, this is what's so shameless.
• 2:19:49
  Speaker 1: Arrests for nonviolent issues like DUI. I'm sorry. If you're
• 2:19:53
  Speaker 1: doing DUI, you should be deported.
• 2:19:55
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 2:19:55
  Speaker 1: That is a violent crime.
• 2:19:57
  Speaker 3: Well, you definitely cause death.
• 2:19:58
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 2:19:59
  Speaker 3: And destruction. Drugs, 22,000. DUI, 30,000. Outnumber severe violent crimes.
• 2:20:06
  Speaker 3: But yeah, but those are fucking bad crimes.
• 2:20:08
  Speaker 1: I don't, I, but I think this kind of is
• 2:20:10
  Speaker 1: a distraction from.
• 2:20:12
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 2:20:12
  Speaker 1: If you have 10 million people and they're all house, homemakers,
• 2:20:15
  Speaker 1: like let's suppose they're the nicest people ever. Are you
• 2:20:18
  Speaker 1: comfortable with them just remaining here? I don't think most
• 2:20:21
  Speaker 1: people are.
• 2:20:22
  Speaker 3: No.
• 2:20:22
  Speaker 1: Then what do you do?
• 2:20:24
  Speaker 3: Rand Paul thinks that you should allow them to stay
• 2:20:27
  Speaker 3: but not give them citizenship.
• 2:20:29
  Speaker 1: See, if birthright citizenship went away, a lot of this
• 2:20:31
  Speaker 1: would be solved.
• 2:20:33
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 2:20:33
  Speaker 1: If you're not eligible for welfare, you're not eligible for Medicaid,
• 2:20:37
  Speaker 1: you could pay your taxes and income but you're not
• 2:20:39
  Speaker 1: getting the benefits, people could understand that argument maybe.
• 2:20:43
  Speaker 3: Especially if you are illegal and then you come here
• 2:20:45
  Speaker 3: specifically to have a baby. And then you could stay, too.
• 2:20:48
  Speaker 3: That's kind of crazy. That's a crazy law.
• 2:20:51
  Speaker 1: I think we're the only country that has that, too.
• 2:20:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah. China definitely doesn't.
• 2:20:55
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean, no one's really banging on the door
• 2:20:57
  Speaker 1: for Chinese citizenship, to be fair.
• 2:20:59
  Speaker 3: That's true.
• 2:20:59
  Speaker 1: Unless you're from North Korea, maybe.
• 2:21:02
  Speaker 3: It is a problem that doesn't have a clear-cut solution
• 2:21:06
  Speaker 3: that would make both sides happy. That's for damn sure.
• 2:21:08
  Speaker 1: Well, I think one side is against it entirely, and
• 2:21:13
  Speaker 1: many Republicans don't think it's worth it. you know, kind
• 2:21:17
  Speaker 1: of overturn our whole society, get these 10 million people out.
• 2:21:19
  Speaker 1: So what's good? I mean, if we had, if we
• 2:21:23
  Speaker 1: had 10 million Canadians come to America, that's not going
• 2:21:25
  Speaker 1: to change the country. Right.
• 2:21:27
  Speaker 3: It makes no sense. Right. Well, especially 10 million Canadians
• 2:21:29
  Speaker 3: that could be violent criminals. Well, if you just have
• 2:21:32
  Speaker 3: an open door, they're not going to be, they're Canadian.
• 2:21:34
  Speaker 3: There's violent Canadians. Sure.
• 2:21:37
  Speaker 1: They're all, they need.
• 2:21:38
  Speaker 3: To be on the TRT. Drinking maple syrup.
• 2:21:40
  Speaker 1: Do you know about my, my, um, enslaved Canada plan?
• 2:21:44
  Speaker 3: No. Okay.
• 2:21:46
  Speaker 1: Is this, This is, I want to get the exact,
• 2:21:48
  Speaker 1: I have the exact numbers, hold on here. So there are,
• 2:21:51
  Speaker 1: I want to get this exactly right, 41 million Canadians.
• 2:21:56
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 2:21:57
  Speaker 1: Now let's talk about reparations, right? So if I wreck
• 2:22:00
  Speaker 1: your truck and your truck is worth $ 10, 000, I got
• 2:22:04
  Speaker 1: to get you a brand new truck or $ 10, 000. That's
• 2:22:07
  Speaker 1: reparations is restored. Okay. How can you have reparations for
• 2:22:10
  Speaker 1: something as horrific as slavery? A check's not going to
• 2:22:12
  Speaker 1: do it because there's no amount of money where I
• 2:22:14
  Speaker 1: could say, you know what, you own my grandma, it's fine, right?
• 2:22:18
  Speaker 1: 41 million Canadians, they've already demonstrated repeatedly that they don't
• 2:22:22
  Speaker 1: want freedom through every action that they've taken. 42 million
• 2:22:26
  Speaker 1: African and black Americans. So slavery in the South was
• 2:22:30
  Speaker 1: a horrific blot on America's past. So the opposite, slavery
• 2:22:34
  Speaker 1: in the North, would be better. So we invade and enslave,
• 2:22:39
  Speaker 1: hashtag enslave Canada, and every African American gets one Canadian
• 2:22:43
  Speaker 1: slave And that's reparations. And then you never have to
• 2:22:45
  Speaker 1: hear about slavery or racism again. What a great idea.
• 2:22:48
  Speaker 1: And the big names can get the big names. So
• 2:22:50
  Speaker 1: like Michelle Obama can get Gad Saad, right? Barack Obama
• 2:22:55
  Speaker 1: is not African-American. He's African. You don't get one.
• 2:22:57
  Speaker 3: Do you think that's real? The Kenyan thing?
• 2:23:00
  Speaker 1: Well, he was of African descent. His ancestors were never slaves.
• 2:23:05
  Speaker 1: So he's not due reparations. In fact, his ancestors owned slaves.
• 2:23:08
  Speaker 1: And so did Kamala Harris's. Michelle Obama's ancestors were enslaved.
• 2:23:12
  Speaker 1: So she gets Gad.
• 2:23:13
  Speaker 3: Sorry, Gad.
• 2:23:15
  Speaker 1: I'm not kidding. I think we should do it. It
• 2:23:17
  Speaker 1: would solve Canada. It would solve a racism problem.
• 2:23:19
  Speaker 3: Canada just needs to be free.
• 2:23:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 2:23:21
  Speaker 3: They need a better government up there. That's right. You know,
• 2:23:24
  Speaker 3: Trump ruined that. When he was saying they were going
• 2:23:28
  Speaker 3: to be our 51st state, he killed the Conservative Party
• 2:23:31
  Speaker 3: because then everybody sort of united and said, hey, we've
• 2:23:34
  Speaker 3: got to stop America from trying to turn us into
• 2:23:36
  Speaker 3: the 51st state.
• 2:23:37
  Speaker 1: This Greenland thing.
• 2:23:37
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 2:23:39
  Speaker 1: Let's talk about this.
• 2:23:41
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 2:23:41
  Speaker 1: Because I don't know if people know this. In the
• 2:23:43
  Speaker 1: first term- Marie Fredrickson, I think, is the prime minister
• 2:23:47
  Speaker 1: of Denmark. They were going to have a meeting and
• 2:23:50
  Speaker 1: Trump's like, we want Greenland. And she's like, oh, you,
• 2:23:53
  Speaker 1: you know, looking forward to meeting you, Mr.
• 2:23:56
  Speaker 3: President.
• 2:23:57
  Speaker 1: And on Twitter, he cancels the meeting and goes, since
• 2:24:00
  Speaker 1: the prime minister doesn't know her place, we're going to
• 2:24:03
  Speaker 1: have to meet another time. And she's like, what? Like,
• 2:24:06
  Speaker 1: what are you talking about? And now they're saying you
• 2:24:10
  Speaker 1: could have Greenland to do anything you want. You want
• 2:24:13
  Speaker 1: to dig for the minerals? Please bring industry there.
• 2:24:15
  Speaker 3: Nope.
• 2:24:16
  Speaker 1: We need to own Greenland. And they don't know. And
• 2:24:19
  Speaker 1: I don't know what to make of his. Someone I
• 2:24:22
  Speaker 1: saw on social media thinks he must be on the
• 2:24:24
  Speaker 1: spectrum because he's so fixated on this thing that no
• 2:24:27
  Speaker 1: one who's neurotypical has this kind of fixation. But what
• 2:24:30
  Speaker 1: do you make of this whole Greenland thing?
• 2:24:31
  Speaker 3: I don't understand it. Do you know they offered us
• 2:24:33
  Speaker 3: Greenland in the 1920s?
• 2:24:34
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 2:24:35
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 2:24:35
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 2:24:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 2:24:36
  Speaker 1: Was it too much money or something?
• 2:24:38
  Speaker 3: How much was it? How much did they offer us
• 2:24:40
  Speaker 3: Greenland for?
• 2:24:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 2:24:42
  Speaker 1: But I don't blame them for being like, what is
• 2:24:44
  Speaker 1: going on?
• 2:24:45
  Speaker 3: It is crazy. Right. So Denmark owns Greenland. Who's closer?
• 2:24:50
  Speaker 3: Denmark or the United States? We're closer to Greenland. Then
• 2:24:52
  Speaker 3: we should have it.
• 2:24:54
  Speaker 1: Shouldn't Canada have it then?
• 2:24:55
  Speaker 3: No, fuck them.
• 2:24:59
  Speaker 1: This is what it must be like in Denmark right
• 2:25:00
  Speaker 1: now where they're like, what do we say?
• 2:25:02
  Speaker 3: Okay. Did not offer itself to the United States in
• 2:25:05
  Speaker 3: the 1920s.
• 2:25:05
  Speaker 5: U.S.
• 2:25:06
  Speaker 3: Expressed interest in acquiring or basing in Greenland during that decade,
• 2:25:09
  Speaker 3: but no formal offer came from Denmark. I thought there
• 2:25:13
  Speaker 3: was negotiation.
• 2:25:14
  Speaker 1: That's what it's saying, yeah.
• 2:25:15
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 2:25:16
  Speaker 1: A land swap idea.
• 2:25:17
  Speaker 3: Okay. For the U.S. Virgin Islands for $ 25 million. The U.S.
• 2:25:22
  Speaker 3: bought the Danish West Indies, now U.S. Virgin Islands, for
• 2:25:25
  Speaker 3: $ 25 million. What a deal. But a firm Danish sovereignty
• 2:25:30
  Speaker 3: over Greenland, 1920s U.S. Army General Billy Mitchell advocated for
• 2:25:35
  Speaker 3: American air bases on Greenland and Iceland to expand air power,
• 2:25:38
  Speaker 3: viewing them as strategically vital amid advancing technology. No purchase...
• 2:25:42
  Speaker 3: or secession offer emerged from Denmark, U.S. interests remained internal
• 2:25:47
  Speaker 3: military advocacy without diplomatic action from Copenhagen.
• 2:25:51
  Speaker 1: We just got to give them a swap. We get Greenland,
• 2:25:53
  Speaker 1: you get Puerto Rico.
• 2:25:55
  Speaker 3: So in 1947, go back to that. 1946, President Truman
• 2:26:02
  Speaker 3: proposed $ 100 million in gold for Greenland, rejected by Denmark
• 2:26:07
  Speaker 3: amid Cold War tensions.
• 2:26:08
  Speaker 4: U.S.
• 2:26:09
  Speaker 3: Gained defense rights via 1941 agreement during World War II
• 2:26:12
  Speaker 3: occupation of Denmark. How interesting is that? Like, we've been
• 2:26:15
  Speaker 3: interested in Greenland forever. Oh, it's right there. That's ours.
• 2:26:19
  Speaker 3: We should take it.
• 2:26:20
  Speaker 5: It's that fast route to Russia.
• 2:26:23
  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, because you have those straits on both sides.
• 2:26:26
  Speaker 3: But the thing is.
• 2:26:28
  Speaker 1: They're already saying you could do whatever you want. Like,
• 2:26:32
  Speaker 1: take a dump on it. We don't care. Like, we're
• 2:26:34
  Speaker 1: happy for you to exploit it, please. That's kind of crazy.
• 2:26:37
  Speaker 1: And he's like, nope, we got to own it. It's like,
• 2:26:39
  Speaker 1: but why?
• 2:26:41
  Speaker 3: I guess he got it in his head that he
• 2:26:43
  Speaker 3: could make it happen.
• 2:26:44
  Speaker 1: But this is really, like, I don't, the thing is,
• 2:26:47
  Speaker 1: they're getting freaked out in Europe, not because he's being
• 2:26:49
  Speaker 1: this aggressive, I think, not just, but also because it's like,
• 2:26:53
  Speaker 1: what are we missing? Like, you and I, like, what
• 2:26:55
  Speaker 1: are we missing here? Like, what about Greenland with owning
• 2:26:58
  Speaker 1: it change when you could do whatever you like, put
• 2:27:01
  Speaker 1: more bases, we love it.
• 2:27:03
  Speaker 3: Oh, I don't know, man.
• 2:27:05
  Speaker 1: You've hung out with him. Does he have a screw loose?
• 2:27:09
  Speaker 3: It's hard to say. I mean, I think anybody who
• 2:27:12
  Speaker 3: wants to be president has a screw loose. And anybody
• 2:27:14
  Speaker 3: who went through that guy, what that guy did. Sure,
• 2:27:16
  Speaker 3: of course. What he went through over the last four
• 2:27:19
  Speaker 3: years when Biden was in office, when they were trying
• 2:27:20
  Speaker 3: to lock him up.
• 2:27:21
  Speaker 1: What about when he was president, what they went through?
• 2:27:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the Russiagate stuff. Yeah, all that stuff. It's kind
• 2:27:25
  Speaker 3: of crazy. You would have to have a little bit
• 2:27:28
  Speaker 3: of a screw loose. And now I think he's on
• 2:27:29
  Speaker 3: a victory lap for sure. But he also wants to
• 2:27:31
  Speaker 3: get a lot of stuff done because he knows he
• 2:27:33
  Speaker 3: only has one term. And I think the Greenland thing,
• 2:27:38
  Speaker 3: I understand the strategic implications, why you would want that.
• 2:27:44
  Speaker 3: But I don't understand why you wouldn't just accept a
• 2:27:47
  Speaker 3: deal where we could have bases there.
• 2:27:49
  Speaker 1: We have bases there already. And we do whatever we want.
• 2:27:51
  Speaker 1: Here's the other thing. This is the other one that
• 2:27:53
  Speaker 1: I don't understand. We go to Venezuela.
• 2:27:56
  Speaker 5: Venezuela.
• 2:27:57
  Speaker 1: We basically teleport Maduro out, right? Obviously, there's some kind
• 2:28:00
  Speaker 1: of inside information, whatever, who knows. And then everyone just
• 2:28:03
  Speaker 1: stops talking about it.
• 2:28:05
  Speaker 3: I know, right? And it's just like- Well, the news
• 2:28:06
  Speaker 3: cycle's crazy right now.
• 2:28:07
  Speaker 1: But what is going on in Venezuela? Did they change
• 2:28:09
  Speaker 1: the government? I don't think they did.
• 2:28:10
  Speaker 3: They didn't change the government, but they got rid of
• 2:28:12
  Speaker 3: the one guy that was a resistance. And a lot
• 2:28:16
  Speaker 3: of people, like Kurt Metzger, thinks that what's going to
• 2:28:18
  Speaker 3: happen is during the trial, they're going to reveal that
• 2:28:22
  Speaker 3: Maduro was involved in rigging the 2020 election.
• 2:28:25
  Speaker 1: The American 2020?
• 2:28:25
  Speaker 3: Yes. Because there is some sort of a connection with
• 2:28:29
  Speaker 3: Venezuela and the 2020 election and the voting machines. Wait.
• 2:28:34
  Speaker 1: Okay. I love Kurt. I was one of the people
• 2:28:36
  Speaker 1: at his birthday party. When I say I love him,
• 2:28:40
  Speaker 1: ironically and non-ironically, I think he's the best.
• 2:28:43
  Speaker 3: I love him too.
• 2:28:44
  Speaker 1: I don't see any route where they would need the
• 2:28:50
  Speaker 1: theater of a trial to release this sort of information.
• 2:28:55
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 2:28:55
  Speaker 4: I agree. I agree.
• 2:28:57
  Speaker 3: But I think that having him in America and making
• 2:29:01
  Speaker 3: a deal with him, look, bitch, we already kidnapped you.
• 2:29:03
  Speaker 3: We killed all your guards.
• 2:29:04
  Speaker 1: I think he's– if I could get– if I could out-Curt-Curt,
• 2:29:09
  Speaker 1: I would bet this– I would bet a lot of–
• 2:29:11
  Speaker 1: I would not be surprised. I'm not going to bet.
• 2:29:13
  Speaker 1: That he's– this is already a deal. That they told
• 2:29:16
  Speaker 1: him either you come to jail with us, wink, wink,
• 2:29:19
  Speaker 1: or we'll take you out. And he's like, you know, fine.
• 2:29:22
  Speaker 1: I'll retire in America. That would make more sense to me.
• 2:29:24
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 2:29:26
  Speaker 3: They did some wild stuff over there. Like, they used
• 2:29:28
  Speaker 3: some sound weapon to, like, incapacitate everybody, and they went
• 2:29:31
  Speaker 3: and executed them all.
• 2:29:32
  Speaker 1: Is that all?
• 2:29:33
  Speaker 3: How much of that's confirmed? Not a single U.S. soldier
• 2:29:35
  Speaker 3: was shot.
• 2:29:36
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 2:29:37
  Speaker 3: And everybody was down. Like, the people that are talking
• 2:29:39
  Speaker 3: about it that were on the ground saying it was crazy.
• 2:29:41
  Speaker 3: They shut off all the power. Right. They shut off
• 2:29:43
  Speaker 3: all the radar systems. And then all of a sudden,
• 2:29:46
  Speaker 3: fucking helicopters, drones, everything was there. This sound weapon was used.
• 2:29:51
  Speaker 3: Everybody was incapacitated. They came in, gunned down. Like, how
• 2:29:54
  Speaker 3: many people did they kill? I forget how many people
• 2:29:56
  Speaker 3: he killed.
• 2:29:56
  Speaker 1: It was like 100, wasn't it?
• 2:29:57
  Speaker 3: He killed a lot of people. But they killed him
• 2:29:59
  Speaker 3: with no resistance.
• 2:30:00
  Speaker 1: But I thought it was very clear that we had
• 2:30:02
  Speaker 1: some kind of inside information.
• 2:30:04
  Speaker 3: I'm sure we had that as well.
• 2:30:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 2:30:05
  Speaker 1: Someone on the inside was like working with us in
• 2:30:07
  Speaker 1: terms of where he is.
• 2:30:08
  Speaker 3: I'm sure there was that as well. But there was
• 2:30:10
  Speaker 3: this narrative.
• 2:30:11
  Speaker 1: When I saw that photo of him getting arrested, I
• 2:30:14
  Speaker 1: thought it was AI. Because it looks so crazy and ridiculous.
• 2:30:18
  Speaker 1: And if I went a year ago and said Trump's
• 2:30:19
  Speaker 1: going to arrest Maduro, I'm like arrest him for what?
• 2:30:22
  Speaker 1: It's just like I don't know what's real anymore.
• 2:30:24
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 2:30:25
  Speaker 5: There's an article from The Guardian from November 2025.
• 2:30:31
  Speaker 3: Okay. Trump's DOJ investigating unfounded claims. Venezuela helps steal 2020 election.
• 2:30:38
  Speaker 3: So how do you know it's unfounded until you investigate?
• 2:30:40
  Speaker 3: These fuckers.
• 2:30:42
  Speaker 1: The Guardian is pretty bad with that kind of stuff.
• 2:30:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they're gross.
• 2:30:44
  Speaker 5: This stuff is where it's interesting because this guy works
• 2:30:46
  Speaker 5: for the CIA, I think, and he has a quote
• 2:30:49
  Speaker 5: down here where he says he doesn't deal with bullshit.
• 2:30:51
  Speaker 5: So he thinks it's bullshit? I was just trying to
• 2:30:54
  Speaker 5: have you read it.
• 2:30:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he says, I don't dabble in conspiracy theories.
• 2:30:58
  Speaker 3: Sure you don't. You're in the CIA. Right. We don't dabble.
• 2:31:01
  Speaker 3: We make them.
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  Speaker 4: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: Who knows? This is what Kurt believes. This is not
• 2:31:07
  Speaker 3: my theory.
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  Speaker 1: Keep scrolling down. I want to see what he's saying
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  Speaker 1: that Venezuela did.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: What is the accusation?
• 2:31:14
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Keep scrolling down. I want to see. There's nothing about
• 2:31:17
  Speaker 1: what they did.
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  Speaker 3: Well, that would be contributing to the conspiracy theory.
• 2:31:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess.
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  Speaker 4: Mr. Malice.
• 2:31:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah. They don't want to do that in The Guardian.
• 2:31:28
  Speaker 3: Who knows? Why would they need– We'll find out. Another
• 2:31:31
  Speaker 3: awesome chapter of Game of Thrones.
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  Speaker 1: I mean I still don't understand. It was– a lot
• 2:31:39
  Speaker 1: of people were butthurt correctly that we shouldn't be doing
• 2:31:42
  Speaker 1: regime change. But the regime didn't change.
• 2:31:45
  Speaker 3: Right. We just got rid of one guy and kidnapped
• 2:31:48
  Speaker 3: him and brought him to America.
• 2:31:49
  Speaker 1: But like if you get rid of Trump. Vance becomes president,
• 2:31:52
  Speaker 1: you're not changing the government at all.
• 2:31:54
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 2:31:54
  Speaker 1: So, like, what are we doing here? I don't know.
• 2:31:56
  Speaker 5: Here's a discussion in the Journal of Democracy about how
• 2:32:00
  Speaker 5: Maduro stole Venezuela's vote.
• 2:32:02
  Speaker 1: That is very widely accepted as real.
• 2:32:05
  Speaker 3: That is accepted.
• 2:32:06
  Speaker 5: I'm seeing these keywords that are popping out. It's like
• 2:32:08
  Speaker 5: the same stuff I'm hearing in our election dispute. Ballot receipts,
• 2:32:11
  Speaker 5: people checking voter polls later that evening, people saying that
• 2:32:17
  Speaker 5: that's not what I did. I don't know.
• 2:32:19
  Speaker 3: It's a lot. Right.
• 2:32:22
  Speaker 1: The other question is what's going on with Iran?
• 2:32:23
  Speaker 3: Well, it looks like we're about to go in.
• 2:32:26
  Speaker 1: Are we? Are you sure?
• 2:32:27
  Speaker 3: Well, they're preparing.
• 2:32:29
  Speaker 1: But, I mean, that's always great to shake your fist.
• 2:32:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, saber rattling.
• 2:32:34
  Speaker 1: So it's like.
• 2:32:36
  Speaker 5: I.
• 2:32:38
  Speaker 1: Feel like all of us are looking around being like,
• 2:32:41
  Speaker 1: what's happening?
• 2:32:42
  Speaker 3: What the fuck is going on? Yeah, every day. Every
• 2:32:44
  Speaker 3: day is what the fuck is going on.
• 2:32:45
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 2:32:46
  Speaker 3: And you're just trying to live a normal life.
• 2:32:48
  Speaker 1: Yes, exactly.
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  Speaker 3: Which is what everybody really wants, but they're preventing you
• 2:32:51
  Speaker 3: from doing that with constantly being assaulted by new information
• 2:32:55
  Speaker 3: that scares the shit out of you.
• 2:32:56
  Speaker 1: All day long. And it's also, there's no context for
• 2:32:58
  Speaker 1: us to understand this. Like, we understand the Saddam situation, right?
• 2:33:01
  Speaker 1: You go in, you conquer a country, kill a lot
• 2:33:03
  Speaker 1: of people. It's a nightmare bloodbath that was unnecessary. Saddam
• 2:33:06
  Speaker 1: gets hanged. We know that story. Like, we're just going
• 2:33:09
  Speaker 1: to come in, pull out one guy who's the president
• 2:33:12
  Speaker 1: and leave.
• 2:33:12
  Speaker 3: And his wife.
• 2:33:13
  Speaker 1: And his wife. And everything will go back. It's just like...
• 2:33:16
  Speaker 1: I remember the Democrats were like, what do we say
• 2:33:18
  Speaker 1: to this? This has never happened before.
• 2:33:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 2:33:20
  Speaker 1: I don't know, man.
• 2:33:22
  Speaker 3: I'm just overwhelmed. I think I share the feeling that
• 2:33:26
  Speaker 3: most Americans have right now, which is every day you're like,
• 2:33:28
  Speaker 3: what the fuck is going on?
• 2:33:30
  Speaker 1: But I feel like it's escalating.
• 2:33:32
  Speaker 3: Oh, definitely.
• 2:33:33
  Speaker 1: It wasn't this crazy during his first term.
• 2:33:35
  Speaker 3: No, no, no. The world is escalating.
• 2:33:37
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 2:33:37
  Speaker 3: What is this? Venezuelan oil gets- Get shipped to Israel
• 2:33:42
  Speaker 3: for the first time in years. Oh, boy.
• 2:33:45
  Speaker 5: It happened last week. So as far as I'm just
• 2:33:47
  Speaker 5: looking up, we assumed control of the country, I think,
• 2:33:49
  Speaker 5: in some way.
• 2:33:50
  Speaker 1: Did we? I think we got their oil, right?
• 2:33:52
  Speaker 5: So they found a better way to have people run it,
• 2:33:54
  Speaker 5: but I don't know that.
• 2:33:55
  Speaker 3: Well, that was the other thing that Trump said. What
• 2:33:56
  Speaker 3: are we going to do with the oil tanker? We're
• 2:33:58
  Speaker 3: going to keep it. Yeah.
• 2:33:59
  Speaker 1: It's like, what? How do we get to do this?
• 2:34:01
  Speaker 3: They're sending the oil to Israel.
• 2:34:08
  Speaker 1: So Venezuela is saying it's fake.
• 2:34:10
  Speaker 3: Venezuela plans to send its first shipment of crude oil
• 2:34:12
  Speaker 3: to Israel in 17 years, part of opening up the
• 2:34:15
  Speaker 3: country's exports following the U.S. abduction of President Nicolas Maduro.
• 2:34:19
  Speaker 5: I did have to go to probably not a great
• 2:34:21
  Speaker 5: source in the Middle East.
• 2:34:22
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 2:34:22
  Speaker 1: Well, Bloomberg's a rep.
• 2:34:24
  Speaker 3: That's the one I couldn't get past the evening. But
• 2:34:27
  Speaker 3: it seems like it's the same story.
• 2:34:29
  Speaker 1: Jerusalem Post. Yeah, they're not going to be lying about
• 2:34:30
  Speaker 1: this stuff.
• 2:34:31
  Speaker 3: First shipment to Israel.
• 2:34:33
  Speaker 1: Well, I think all they're saying is they've restored relations
• 2:34:35
  Speaker 1: between Venezuela and Israel.
• 2:34:36
  Speaker 3: Well, they probably control relations now. It's essentially the U.S.
• 2:34:40
  Speaker 3: is probably in control of their oil distribution. I think
• 2:34:42
  Speaker 3: that's explicit, isn't it? Yeah. It's still like- Well, that
• 2:34:45
  Speaker 3: was the other thing, is bringing in all these companies.
• 2:34:48
  Speaker 3: They're all going to do it. But apparently, their oil
• 2:34:50
  Speaker 3: is very difficult to acquire. Is that right? Yeah. Their
• 2:34:54
  Speaker 3: oil is not simple like Texas oil, dig a hole
• 2:34:57
  Speaker 3: in the ground, pull it out. It's all- It has
• 2:35:00
  Speaker 3: to be processed with all these chemicals. It's apparently like
• 2:35:03
  Speaker 3: the consistency of asphalt.
• 2:35:04
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 2:35:05
  Speaker 3: And it has to be broken down. It's very expensive.
• 2:35:09
  Speaker 3: This is why– was it the CEO of Exxon? One
• 2:35:13
  Speaker 3: of the companies said that it would never work. Oh. Yeah,
• 2:35:16
  Speaker 3: that the infrastructure is not in place. And then Trump
• 2:35:20
  Speaker 3: was upset at him for being a negative Nancy.
• 2:35:22
  Speaker 1: I just– I think any time you start to– did
• 2:35:26
  Speaker 1: he really? Whenever you start talking about regime change, that's
• 2:35:30
  Speaker 1: something that's very scary.
• 2:35:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 2:35:31
  Speaker 1: Historically.
• 2:35:32
  Speaker 3: And always turns bad. Yeah. Like Libya and all these
• 2:35:35
  Speaker 3: other places. Yeah.
• 2:35:36
  Speaker 1: Iran.
• 2:35:37
  Speaker 5: 1979.
• 2:35:37
  Speaker 4: Iraq.
• 2:35:37
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 2:35:37
  Speaker 3: All these places. So it's just like- It's never good.
• 2:35:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 2:35:42
  Speaker 1: But then at the same time, we're like, what do
• 2:35:44
  Speaker 1: we do? Like, what's plan B? Gavin Newsom? Do you
• 2:35:48
  Speaker 1: know what I mean?
• 2:35:49
  Speaker 3: What's he going to do?
• 2:35:50
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 2:35:50
  Speaker 1: What's he- Right.
• 2:35:51
  Speaker 3: Senior Trump administration officials have vowed to maintain control over
• 2:35:54
  Speaker 3: Venezuelan oil exports for an indefinite period. Indefinite is weird
• 2:35:59
  Speaker 3: in quotes. Secretary of State Marco Rubio claiming that the
• 2:36:03
  Speaker 3: Venezuelan acting government headed by Delce Rodriguez needs to submit
• 2:36:08
  Speaker 3: a budget request before accessing the country's oil proceeds. Whoa.
• 2:36:15
  Speaker 3: So we just took over Venezuela essentially.
• 2:36:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah. No, we just took over their oil.
• 2:36:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but also the country. Aren't the people still being
• 2:36:22
  Speaker 3: oppressed as hell? Yeah, but the government essentially is like
• 2:36:25
  Speaker 3: we're running that government.
• 2:36:27
  Speaker 1: I don't think we are, though.
• 2:36:28
  Speaker 3: We probably tell them what they can and can't do.
• 2:36:29
  Speaker 4: No.
• 2:36:30
  Speaker 3: I think that's the thing, that they're still— It's just
• 2:36:32
  Speaker 3: the oil. Right.
• 2:36:34
  Speaker 1: Can I talk about something fun?
• 2:36:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 2:36:36
  Speaker 1: I'm finishing a project I've been working on for 25 years.
• 2:36:40
  Speaker 3: Whoa.
• 2:36:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 2:36:41
  Speaker 1: So I'm excited to talk to you about it.
• 2:36:43
  Speaker 3: What is it?
• 2:36:44
  Speaker 1: So there was this band from the 80s who were
• 2:36:49
  Speaker 1: called Rubber Rodeo that combined punk and country, right? And
• 2:36:52
  Speaker 1: I was looking at this compilation that I got in 1994.
• 2:36:55
  Speaker 1: I sent Jamie the picture. And I was staring at
• 2:36:59
  Speaker 1: this photo trying to make heads or tails of this
• 2:37:01
  Speaker 1: band because, can you pull it up? You'll show you
• 2:37:05
  Speaker 1: the photo. You'll see what I mean by it. Because
• 2:37:07
  Speaker 1: there are a bunch of kids in these kind of
• 2:37:10
  Speaker 1: square dancing uniforms with no affect on their face whatsoever.
• 2:37:15
  Speaker 1: And the singer, she's in this Dolly Parton wig and
• 2:37:18
  Speaker 1: this big square dancing dress and just staring right at
• 2:37:21
  Speaker 1: the viewer. I'm like, are they joking? Like, what's up
• 2:37:24
  Speaker 1: with these people? And I met them and they were
• 2:37:27
  Speaker 1: art school kids. They were not joking.
• 2:37:29
  Speaker 3: They were.
• 2:37:30
  Speaker 1: There it is, that photo. So you see, I'm like,
• 2:37:33
  Speaker 1: are they kidding? Are they not kidding? Her name's Trish.
• 2:37:36
  Speaker 1: And this is from the 80s? This is from the 80s.
• 2:37:38
  Speaker 1: They got signed the same day as Bon Jovi by
• 2:37:42
  Speaker 1: the same guy. And he said, I'm taking you both
• 2:37:44
  Speaker 1: to number one. So I wrote a screenplay about them
• 2:37:47
  Speaker 1: because it's kind of like a Spinal Tap story because
• 2:37:48
  Speaker 1: they're on stage at punk clubs doing jokes like, hey, Bob,
• 2:37:54
  Speaker 1: I'm exhausted. Why are you exhausted, Bob? Oh, the couple
• 2:37:56
  Speaker 1: in the next hotel room were up all night eating
• 2:37:57
  Speaker 1: candy bars. Candy bars? Yeah, she kept yelling, oh, Henry, oh, Henry.
• 2:38:02
  Speaker 4: Right?
• 2:38:02
  Speaker 1: So it's this complete, like, what are you even doing here?
• 2:38:07
  Speaker 1: But the guy who did the keyboards for the band
• 2:38:12
  Speaker 1: did the animation for American Splendor. And through him, I
• 2:38:16
  Speaker 1: met Harvey Pekar, who later wrote a book about me
• 2:38:19
  Speaker 1: in 2006.
• 2:38:19
  Speaker 3: Is he that guy that went nuts on Letterman?
• 2:38:24
  Speaker 1: I'm so glad you know who Harvey is. So Harvey
• 2:38:27
  Speaker 1: started the idea.
• 2:38:28
  Speaker 3: He's a comic book guy, right?
• 2:38:29
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 2:38:30
  Speaker 1: He started the idea of writing autobiographical comics in the 70s.
• 2:38:34
  Speaker 1: From off the streets of Cleveland, here comes American Splendor.
• 2:38:36
  Speaker 1: It's an ironic title because his life was not exactly
• 2:38:40
  Speaker 1: very splendid. He was a file clerk, kind of a
• 2:38:42
  Speaker 1: miserable person. He hated being called a curmudgeon. Um, and
• 2:38:46
  Speaker 1: amazingly when the film came out in 2000 and it
• 2:38:50
  Speaker 1: was a 2000, I think it was something like that, 2001. Um, the,
• 2:38:55
  Speaker 1: he flew back to New York to do Stern and
• 2:38:57
  Speaker 1: the producer of the film, Ted Hope, sent out an
• 2:39:00
  Speaker 1: email that said, Harvey's in town with nothing to do.
• 2:39:03
  Speaker 1: If you want to hang out with him, this is
• 2:39:05
  Speaker 1: your chance. And I'm the only person who took him
• 2:39:08
  Speaker 1: up on it. And I go there and he's on
• 2:39:10
  Speaker 1: his bed and he, spoiler alert, he died in 2010
• 2:39:14
  Speaker 1: on my birthday, which was not a fun email to get. Anyway,
• 2:39:17
  Speaker 1: and he's like, yeah, he's got this really weird way
• 2:39:20
  Speaker 1: of talking. He's like, I'm really fucked up, man. And
• 2:39:23
  Speaker 1: I pointed out to him, since everything in his life
• 2:39:25
  Speaker 1: was a disaster, his movie got a wide release the
• 2:39:29
  Speaker 1: weekend of the blackout. There was this big fucking blackout.
• 2:39:32
  Speaker 1: He's like, oh, God damn it. And that was the
• 2:39:35
  Speaker 1: weekend I had a fish tank. and I'm trying to
• 2:39:37
  Speaker 1: keep them alive with no electricity, and it did not
• 2:39:40
  Speaker 1: work out. So he wrote a book about me, and
• 2:39:43
  Speaker 1: that screenplay fell by the wayside. Because it's kind of
• 2:39:47
  Speaker 1: like Spinal Tap. It's this kind of funny story about,
• 2:39:50
  Speaker 1: you know when you're young, and anyone out there who's listening,
• 2:39:53
  Speaker 1: when you're young, go for it.
• 2:39:55
  Speaker 3: Be stupid.
• 2:39:56
  Speaker 1: If you're going to fail, it's okay. It's still something
• 2:39:58
  Speaker 1: exciting to try and to do, which they certainly did.
• 2:40:02
  Speaker 1: And now I'm like, wait a minute, this converts to
• 2:40:04
  Speaker 1: a graphic novel story. very easily. There's a guy named
• 2:40:07
  Speaker 1: Eric July who has this whole kind of empire. He
• 2:40:09
  Speaker 1: did a Kickstarter. He made like a million for his
• 2:40:11
  Speaker 1: first one. It's called the Ripperverse. And now they're at
• 2:40:15
  Speaker 1: a point where you don't have to go through DC
• 2:40:17
  Speaker 1: or Marvel to produce your product. So I'm super excited
• 2:40:21
  Speaker 1: about it. Again, I started this in 2000 and now
• 2:40:25
  Speaker 1: it's finally 26 years later coming to fruition. So unwantedbook.com.
• 2:40:30
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 2:40:31
  Speaker 1: I'm just really kind of, it's very intense. This Because
• 2:40:34
  Speaker 1: here's the other thing. I was at Gold's and I
• 2:40:37
  Speaker 1: had basically what was the opposite of a nervous breakdown
• 2:40:42
  Speaker 1: where all the parts of my brain slid into place
• 2:40:44
  Speaker 1: where I realized this story I wrote in 2001, what
• 2:40:49
  Speaker 1: happens if you do all these things, try to be
• 2:40:51
  Speaker 1: original and go nowhere? Those are my fears when I
• 2:40:54
  Speaker 1: was starting out. What if I end up like them,
• 2:40:57
  Speaker 1: have nothing to show for it? And 25 years later,
• 2:41:00
  Speaker 1: that experience has been run. I could pay my rent
• 2:41:02
  Speaker 1: as the kind of creative person. And if they were
• 2:41:04
  Speaker 1: around today, they could probably pay their rent because it's
• 2:41:06
  Speaker 1: much easier as a band to kind of build an audience.
• 2:41:09
  Speaker 1: But it's a very funny story, but it's also a
• 2:41:12
  Speaker 1: very dark one. And it's largely true. All right. So
• 2:41:16
  Speaker 1: I'm just stoked that I get to.
• 2:41:17
  Speaker 3: We'll end it on a happy note. Yeah. Thanks, buddy.
• 2:41:19
  Speaker 1: Thank you.
• 2:41:20
  Speaker 3: Always good to see you.
• 2:41:21
  Speaker 1: Always a pleasure.
• 2:41:21
  Speaker 3: Congratulations on the face pink.
• 2:41:23
  Speaker 1: Wait till you see the next one.
• 2:41:24
  Speaker 4: Oh, no. Bye, everybody. Bye-bye.
• 2:41:27
  Speaker 3: Bye-bye.