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The Rita Panahi Show | 19 May · The Rita Panahi Show

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  Speaker 1: On scorings Austrodia.
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  Speaker 2: This is the Winner Paney Show.
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  Speaker 3: Good evening and welcome to the Riata Paney Show. Coming
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  Speaker 3: up tonight, Treasurer Jim Chalmers under fire after claiming his
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  Speaker 3: house and tax hikes will increase rents by just two
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  Speaker 3: dollars a week. The panel will join me to discuss that.
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  Speaker 3: In the day's other top headlines, Karl Stefanovic and Eddie
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  Speaker 3: McGuire to host a new three hour radio show. Dedie
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  Speaker 3: dun Levy will give us all the details. Kosher Gator
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  Speaker 3: will have the latest from the US, including Donald Trump
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  Speaker 3: teaming up with his billionaire nemesis Mark Cuban, and UK
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  Speaker 3: broadcaster Andrew E Bourn will join me to discuss the
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  Speaker 3: massive Unite the Kingdom protests in the UK and Left
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  Speaker 3: He's Losing It features an actress who fled communist China
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  Speaker 3: for capitalist America, only to rail against capitalism around as.
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  Speaker 4: The capitalism is the greatest eve on the world. Like
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  Speaker 4: the people that are like, oh, well, like don't you
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  Speaker 4: enjoy the notes thing?
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  Speaker 5: Don't go blah blah blah.
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  Speaker 6: Yes I do.
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  Speaker 4: And also I won't be okay with it ever met
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  Speaker 4: that more people in the world can live without oppression
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  Speaker 4: Like Hello.
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  Speaker 3: But first, there are growing fears that Labour's controversial crackdown
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  Speaker 3: on discretionary trusts will hurt the inheritance of Australia's most
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  Speaker 3: vulnerable Labor claims. It's changes to testamentary discretionary trusts are
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  Speaker 3: designed to stop the wealthiest Australians from avoiding tax obligations,
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  Speaker 3: but experts warn the people most impacted will be at
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  Speaker 3: the poorer end of the scale and they won't be
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  Speaker 3: able to make changes around their children's circumstances. But the
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  Speaker 3: Treasurer has dismissed these fears, calling them scare campaigns.
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  Speaker 7: It's best not to listen to the scare campaigns from
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  Speaker 7: people who have a partisan or a commercial interest in this.
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  Speaker 7: We're making sensible, common sense changes.
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  Speaker 3: Joining me now for more on this is News Corps
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  Speaker 3: Senior writer Patrick Carline and Institute of Public Affairs Research
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  Speaker 3: fellow Colleen Harken. Colleen, At this stage, I don't know
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  Speaker 3: if this Labor government is just inept, economically illiterate, or
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  Speaker 3: a little bit callous.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, look, it's difficult to know. It could be all
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  Speaker 8: of those three. Great The issue here is that it
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  Speaker 8: feels to me like it's been a thought bubble to
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  Speaker 8: attack what he sees as wealthy people without actually considering
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  Speaker 8: the consequences of this, because there are plenty of trust
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  Speaker 8: that is set up for inheritance, for death, the children
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  Speaker 8: who have been left oftened. You know, there's lots of
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  Speaker 8: reasons why people have a trust. It's not just for
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  Speaker 8: the wealthy. And there's also a lot of questions around
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  Speaker 8: when these changes happen to the stamp duty component of it,
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  Speaker 8: who's paying that. They haven't worked that out with the States,
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  Speaker 8: so it seems like it was sort of, you know,
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  Speaker 8: just thrown out. There is an idea without proper consultation
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  Speaker 8: with the industry, and it's all coming back to bite
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  Speaker 8: well Patrick.
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  Speaker 5: This budget has been wildly unpopular.
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  Speaker 3: The net approval rating is minus twenty five.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, that is something else that.
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  Speaker 3: Is right down there with the least popular budgets, and
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  Speaker 3: it seems like it's deeply ideological. It's not a common
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  Speaker 3: sense budget. It's not based on facts and figures. It's
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  Speaker 3: more based on ideology going after the rich.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely it. Look you look at Bill Shorten's budget in
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  Speaker 2: twenty nineteen. He actually carved out the trust element so
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  Speaker 2: that wasn't part of Bill Shortens, and we know what
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  Speaker 2: happened to Bill shorton the electric said no, thank you.
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  Speaker 2: He wanted to change a lot of things.
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  Speaker 3: He was silly enough to actually take policies to an election, yes,
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  Speaker 3: and allow people to make a decision. This government lied
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  Speaker 3: and lied and lied and lied about this issue and
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  Speaker 3: then and I.
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  Speaker 5: Think sprung it on us.
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  Speaker 9: You're right.
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  Speaker 2: I think this budget is unusual because it has something
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  Speaker 2: for everybody to hate about it, whether you're young or old.
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  Speaker 2: You're young, you're going to miss out on the tax
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  Speaker 2: breaks that your parents had. If you're old, you're going
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  Speaker 2: to be taxed in ways you haven't been. If you're
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  Speaker 2: a renter, there's all sorts of panic and confusion as
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  Speaker 2: to how it's going to fall for you. And if
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  Speaker 2: you're an investor, you don't really know where you're at.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it is ideologically driven and there's a lot
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  Speaker 2: of unintended consequences. If you look at the way both
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  Speaker 2: Jim Charmers and Alban Easy have sort of stumbled over
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  Speaker 2: details of this, it's like that didn't actually know. They
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  Speaker 2: weren't across it in the way that they should have been.
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  Speaker 3: No, well, we've talked about them being economically illiterate. But
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  Speaker 3: let's talk about renters a little bit more. You mentioned renters.
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  Speaker 3: Treasurer has been slammed after he claimed that the government's
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  Speaker 3: housing tax hikes would increase rents by just around two
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  Speaker 3: dollars eight week. AMP Chief economist Shane Oliver told the
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  Speaker 3: Daily Telegraph the incentive to go into property is less now,
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  Speaker 3: so new investors will need to impose far more significant
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  Speaker 3: increases in rent than two dollars a week. And Yellow
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  Speaker 3: Brick Road boss Mark Boris also said treasury Is modeling
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  Speaker 3: of a total or a week increase is completely inaccurate.
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  Speaker 5: It is wrong, Collee.
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  Speaker 3: You don't need to be a Mark Boris or an
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  Speaker 3: expert to know that the impact on rents is going
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  Speaker 3: to be fairly dramatic.
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  Speaker 5: It was the last time labor forre this.
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  Speaker 3: We've seen the experience elsewhere, including in New Zealand recently,
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  Speaker 3: where they again got rid of negative gearing, saw rents soar,
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  Speaker 3: and then the new government reversed track and went back
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  Speaker 3: to the old policies.
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  Speaker 8: Well, there is evidence of what happens here in the
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  Speaker 8: nineteen eighty five when they quarantined negative gearing rents in
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  Speaker 8: New South Wales wound up twenty percent, so it's not
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  Speaker 8: like we don't know what to prepare for. And they're
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  Speaker 8: doubling down on immigration, which is one of the great
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  Speaker 8: pressures on housing. They're sort of just continuing on with
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  Speaker 8: that and not addressing that issue at all. But have
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  Speaker 8: you ever seen anyone with a better example of getting
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  Speaker 8: up on the ladder and then kicking it out from
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  Speaker 8: underneath themselves for the next generation. I don't subscribe to
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  Speaker 8: the view that negative gearing should be removed or tampered with,
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  Speaker 8: But if you do believe in that, like Charmer says
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  Speaker 8: that he does, he's kept it for himself in his
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  Speaker 8: generation and he's prevented the younger generation from accessing it.
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  Speaker 8: So the very thing that he says has caused the problem,
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  Speaker 8: he's maintaining for a section of the community that has
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  Speaker 8: already benefited from it and not allowing the younger people
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  Speaker 8: to access it. And those capital gains tax scenarios where
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  Speaker 8: younger people are sort of building up their nest through shares,
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  Speaker 8: through crypto, through investing in themselves through a business programs,
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  Speaker 8: he's increasing the tax on them. So he's on the
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  Speaker 8: exact opposite of what he's saying that he's doing.
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  Speaker 3: And it seems patrick Renters have a better understanding of
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  Speaker 3: this policy and its impact then the government and Treasury
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  Speaker 3: modeling does, because only one in ten renters said this
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  Speaker 3: budget would leave them better off, and we're to this
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  Speaker 3: is designed for their benefit, it's designed to help them
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  Speaker 3: enter the property market, and they're telling us no, we're
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  Speaker 3: going to see our rents rise and it's not good
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  Speaker 3: for us.
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  Speaker 1: That's right.
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  Speaker 2: And look, I'm going to take Mark Burris more seriously
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  Speaker 2: than Jim Charmer's on this. There are all these sort
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  Speaker 2: of consequences that are only we're talking about this eight
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  Speaker 2: days after the budget came out or seven days. How
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  Speaker 2: often do you talk about a budget for that long.
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  Speaker 2: The world likes to move on. There's great confusion and
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  Speaker 2: there's great panic. And I'm going to listen to Mark Burris.
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  Speaker 2: If you're saying rents are going to go up, he's
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  Speaker 2: probably right. I'm not going to trust the Treasurer who
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  Speaker 2: really has stumbled on a lot of these details in
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  Speaker 2: so many wall Well.
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  Speaker 5: It's all got to do with the rental pool.
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  Speaker 3: It's not just the impact on removing the incentive to
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  Speaker 3: invest in property, but you're incentivizing people to sell their
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  Speaker 3: property investments. So if you've got less properties available for rent,
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  Speaker 3: it's a simple supply and demand game, and you're going
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  Speaker 3: to see go up. So we're going to see the
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  Speaker 3: impact of that, and it will be interesting to see if
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  Speaker 3: the government acknowledges its mistake, because to this day they
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  Speaker 3: refuse to even acknowledge that bringing in huge amounts of
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  Speaker 3: people every year has an impact on the housing crisis.
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  Speaker 3: So just simple supply demand economics one oh one seems
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  Speaker 3: to be beyond this government. Now let's talk about this
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  Speaker 3: clip from SBS. This is something that no doubt shocked
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  Speaker 3: their lefty audience and their lefty presenters. This was on
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  Speaker 3: Insight earlier tonight, and here you have a proud Australian
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  Speaker 3: of Fiji Indian heritage talking about his feelings about One Nation.
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  Speaker 10: Bruneil, your family came to Australia about forteen years ago
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  Speaker 10: from Fiji. What do you think about one Nation?
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  Speaker 11: I reckon, she's fantastic, to be honest with you, someone
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  Speaker 11: who loves her own country so much. That's not racist.
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  Speaker 11: You have to have pride in a country. And we
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  Speaker 11: came from Fiji's well and we come to this best
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  Speaker 11: country that we call home. Now, I call myself Australia
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  Speaker 11: and called Myselfijian or Indian. I've put an Australian flag
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  Speaker 11: pole in my front yard. And you come to this country,
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  Speaker 11: embrace the Australian way of living, or you know what,
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  Speaker 11: we stay where you are.
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  Speaker 10: We've heard some of Pauline Hanson's comments about race. Do
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  Speaker 10: you think her party promotes racist ideas.
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  Speaker 11: If you really look into it. She's really only trying
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  Speaker 11: to protect her own country, and I don't think there's
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  Speaker 11: anything wrong with it. Like if someone coming into my house,
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  Speaker 11: I will protect my house from someone. If they're bringing
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  Speaker 11: different values into my house and trying to teach my
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  Speaker 11: kids something different, well you know what, you're not welcoming my.
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  Speaker 5: House, Coleen.
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  Speaker 3: This notion that migrants will not back one nation, it's
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  Speaker 3: a little bit naive and it really I think this
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  Speaker 3: is the point that migrants aren't some massive voter block
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  Speaker 3: who are just going to blindly follow one side. They've
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  Speaker 3: got their own views and you've got to migrants who
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  Speaker 3: come from backgrounds that are very socially conservative, that are
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  Speaker 3: very aspirational, and that is something one nation can appeal to.
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  Speaker 8: Oh, very much so, and you know more Roniel's please
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  Speaker 8: terrific comments from him.
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  Speaker 5: You know, migrants come here.
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  Speaker 8: For a better life, they get here, they have the
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  Speaker 8: better life. The sort of the dysfunction that sort of
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  Speaker 8: says that they then don't appreciate what they've come to
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  Speaker 8: is missing the point of why they're here and what
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  Speaker 8: they value. IPO research says at seventy seven percent of
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  Speaker 8: migrants adhere to Australian values and fifty six percent of
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  Speaker 8: them say they don't want more migrants. So they're here
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  Speaker 8: enjoying what's here, and the idea that they're just this
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  Speaker 8: one big looating block is just simply not true.
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  Speaker 3: Patrick, One nation see greater Western Sydney as a massive
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  Speaker 3: opportunity for them. So I think they understand even better
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  Speaker 3: than the Liberal Party that as a conservative political part,
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  Speaker 3: you can appeal to voters of all backgrounds. You don't
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  Speaker 3: have to limit yourself to wipe people of a certain age.
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  Speaker 2: Look, I think you make the point. I mean, a
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  Speaker 2: lot of migrants who have come to Australia have been
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  Speaker 2: successful and they are very patriotic, and patriotism has been
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  Speaker 2: a dirty word for so long, hasn't it. And I
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  Speaker 2: think what one nation represents is that sort of coming together,
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  Speaker 2: that sense that it's okay to be proud of your country.
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  Speaker 2: And I think so many migrants feel that pride. This
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  Speaker 2: is the country, as Colleen said, that they came to
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  Speaker 2: for a better opportunity, and I think you look at
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  Speaker 2: Western Sydney, there's so many sort of different migrant blocks
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  Speaker 2: there and it's not monochrome. It's not the one.
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  Speaker 5: Sort of thought.
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  Speaker 2: It's about aspiration, it's about pride, and it's about patriotism,
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  Speaker 2: and that really has got lost in the last four
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  Speaker 2: or five years with the whole sort of ideological woke agenda.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you know, it's been repressed.
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  Speaker 3: And Colen, I think this latest budget is such an
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  Speaker 3: own goal for labor when it comes to that group.
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  Speaker 3: And again we're going to generalize a little bit here,
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  Speaker 3: but you do see migrant groups who come to this
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  Speaker 3: country with very little, and we've seen it for decades now,
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  Speaker 3: as sort of with the Greeks and Italians generations ago,
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  Speaker 3: where they come here with nothing and very quickly they
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  Speaker 3: have set themselves up. They've entered the housing market, they've
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  Speaker 3: may have started a small business, worked crazy hours to
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  Speaker 3: make sure their kids have a better life. They're highly
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  Speaker 3: aspirational and the policies that we saw where we were
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  Speaker 3: talking about negative gearing or the capital gains tax, it's
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  Speaker 3: going to hit them hard.
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  Speaker 8: Oh definitely. And there's that scenari about you know, the
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  Speaker 8: harder you work, the more the government's going to take off.
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  Speaker 8: Here as not appealing to anybody. You know, we've got
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  Speaker 8: lots of young people here who are aspirational, young twenty
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  Speaker 8: five or thirty five year olds who want to get ahead,
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  Speaker 8: they want to make their mark in the world, and
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  Speaker 8: they're being told, you know, we're going to penalize you more.
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  Speaker 8: It's a shocking I don't think anybody likes it. To
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  Speaker 8: Patrick's point before, it annoys everybody everywhere.
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  Speaker 5: Well maybe it's united at the country.
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  Speaker 3: So we've done their treasurer Just quickly before you go
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  Speaker 3: and ask about the Gigglev tickle case. After that controversial
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  Speaker 3: decision on Friday, the Daily Telegraph put a question to
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  Speaker 3: New South Wales Minister for Women, A simple question you
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  Speaker 3: think a child could answer. What is a woman? How
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  Speaker 3: do you define a woman? Well here's what Labor Front
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  Speaker 3: benuer Jody Harrison, Minister Woman said, as this matter may
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  Speaker 3: be subject to further legal processes, it would not be
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  Speaker 3: appropriate to comment on the specifics of the case. She
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  Speaker 3: went on to say the matter was considered by the
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  Speaker 3: federal court under Commonwealth at discrimination law, and questions about
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  Speaker 3: the legal framework ultimately matters for the federal government. Colleen,
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  Speaker 3: it's a very odd way to answer a question about
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  Speaker 3: how you define a woman.
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  Speaker 5: Isn't it the Minister for Women.
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  Speaker 8: It's the only job she's got. It's not like it's
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  Speaker 8: buried in the tiny print there somewhere, is it? Minister
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  Speaker 8: for Women should be able to answer that question succinctly.
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  Speaker 3: That's troubling, Colleen Hark and Patrick, Carla and thank you
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  Speaker 3: so much for your time tonight. Let's get stuck into
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  Speaker 3: royal and entertainment news. Joining me now is broadcaster and
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  Speaker 3: Sky News contributor d D dun Levy, and we've got
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  Speaker 3: exciting news.
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  Speaker 5: This is Big Median News.
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  Speaker 3: Broadcasters Carl Stefanovic and Eddie McGuire are going to be
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  Speaker 3: hosting a three hour show on radio network Gold and
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  Speaker 3: nine streaming platforms every Friday afternoon the long weekend. We'll
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  Speaker 3: start airing June nineteen. This show is going to be
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  Speaker 3: live across broadcasts, streaming radio, as well as by video
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  Speaker 3: streaming services like stan and nine. Now Eddie is going
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  Speaker 3: to be living up to his name Eddie everywhere with Carl.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah.
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  Speaker 12: Look, I'm really happy for him. And these two guys
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  Speaker 12: are friends, really good friends. I've been friends for decades.
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  Speaker 3: But do they have chemistry? You can be good friends
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  Speaker 3: well and not have that on air chemistry.
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  Speaker 12: Well, if they do, we'll see it play out in
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  Speaker 12: front of us both whatever way are you watching it,
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  Speaker 12: whether it's broadcasting or listening to it. Unlike Kyl and
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  Speaker 12: Jackie Oh, who were bickering behind the scenes, but we
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  Speaker 12: were led to believe they were great mates and chums
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  Speaker 12: and having a go at each other on air, something
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  Speaker 12: doesn't add up with this story. Now, these two guys
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  Speaker 12: are big stars, and Friday twelve to three is not
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  Speaker 12: a prime time.
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  Speaker 5: Slot exactly, That's what I thought.
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  Speaker 3: Never mind the weird name, the long weekend, I guess yeah,
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  Speaker 3: weekend starting when their show starts midday. You're right, is
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  Speaker 3: not prime time. If you're going to be once a week,
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  Speaker 3: why wouldn't you be in a drive slot at least
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  Speaker 3: when people are in the car. Twelve to three, that's
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  Speaker 3: a bizarre time slot.
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  Speaker 9: I think so.
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  Speaker 12: My suspicion is bearing all that in mind, that they're
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  Speaker 12: going to test this show, They'll see what sort of
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  Speaker 12: audience feedback they get, They'll have a look at how
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  Speaker 12: the ratings play out, look at the time of year,
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  Speaker 12: midyear that they're launching it, and when they decided whether
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  Speaker 12: it's going to be a hit or not. Then I
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  Speaker 12: suspect the drive slot.
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  Speaker 3: I would have thought the star power of these two,
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  Speaker 3: you could test it in drive if it's once a
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  Speaker 3: week or breakfast or.
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  Speaker 5: In a high profile time slot.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think you need to be hiding it away
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  Speaker 3: in Friday afternoon.
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  Speaker 5: And these two are pros.
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  Speaker 12: There's a few unknowns though, because if their networking networking
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  Speaker 12: traditionally does not work, and we've got Eddie who's very
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  Speaker 12: much known as a Melbourne personality, Carl probably more Sydney.
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  Speaker 12: That will balance. But there still is this hostility in
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  Speaker 12: one city towards.
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  Speaker 3: And see who is going to hate this program just
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  Speaker 3: on the fact that you've got two very high profile,
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  Speaker 3: rich white guys who are not painfully woke. Mind you,
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  Speaker 3: it is off the left, is just off the old school,
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  Speaker 3: sensible left.
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  Speaker 5: Carl. I'm not even sure about. I think he's somewhere
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  Speaker 5: down the middle.
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  Speaker 3: So I think this show is going to irritate possibly
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  Speaker 3: all the right people.
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  Speaker 12: Probably yes, But again, like imagine that they're contact books
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  Speaker 12: between the two of them.
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  Speaker 9: Imagine they're guest list on.
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  Speaker 12: The show, and they're both experienced newsbreakers, so we're going
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  Speaker 12: to be hearing all the very latest of what's going on, so.
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  Speaker 9: They'd be very switched on.
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  Speaker 12: I think it'll be a successful show, and I really
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  Speaker 12: like both of them.
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  Speaker 9: But the only slight negatives.
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  Speaker 12: I think Eddie, towards the end of his breakfast show
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  Speaker 12: his ratings head tape it off. So is there still
• 17:27
  Speaker 12: an appetite amongst radio audiences to hear Eddie.
• 17:30
  Speaker 9: I don't know. That's probably why they're testing it in
• 17:33
  Speaker 9: this slot.
• 17:34
  Speaker 5: Well, Edi is.
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: Funny, and I think in that radio program you really
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: didn't see that. So it can be a bit more
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: of himself and see some of the side of him
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: we've seen in the podcast is done recently. I think
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: that could work out well. Now, this is my favorite
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: story of the week. Actress Rachel Griffiths made a surprise
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: appearance yesterday in a Melbourne court after she was snapped
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: side by side with Kate Sayers, who is suing her
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: husband Luke Sayers, for defamation over an embarrassing lurid picture
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: scandal which led to his resignation as president of the
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: Carlton Football Club DD. It's understood Rachel Griffiths was in
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: court for research purposes for possibly a new legal drama
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: that's still in the works. This would be terrifying for
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: the AFL and for Carlton if she's in there and
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: she's thinking this storyline would make a fantastic miniseries, because
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: this is just hugely embarrassing for so many high fliers
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: in this town.
• 18:37
  Speaker 12: Yes, well, I would think that the AFL will be
• 18:39
  Speaker 12: hoping that it can rely on the findings of.
• 18:41
  Speaker 9: Its integrity unit.
• 18:42
  Speaker 12: Oh yes, investigated and found that there was no case
• 18:46
  Speaker 12: for Luke Sayers to answer to his wife's very keen
• 18:49
  Speaker 12: to have all of this here publicly, and he's been
• 18:51
  Speaker 12: trying to get the case moved to the family court
• 18:54
  Speaker 12: so that there'll be less eyes upon it. Whereas Kate Says,
• 18:57
  Speaker 12: who's brought this defamation action, she basically saying I'm happy
• 19:01
  Speaker 12: for the public discruptinate well to give people.
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: A bit of background, A picture of Luke Sayer's penis
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: was posted on x on formerly Twitter, and he claimed
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: he had been hacked. And then the claim to the
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: AFL Integrity Unit and Carlton.
• 19:20
  Speaker 5: Was that she was the culprit, she was behind it.
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: And she's saying that has destroyed or damaged my reputation.
• 19:30
  Speaker 5: Peop will have.
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: Assumed that I'm being the guilty party here. So she
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: wants to clear her name and she wants all of
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: this to be reported as the original case was reported
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: in the media. Well, he went even further than that,
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: and he implied that she had mental health issues and
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: that that was the reason that she did what she did.
• 19:50
  Speaker 9: But to come back to Rachel Griffiths, very interesting.
• 19:52
  Speaker 12: Apparently in the court she was sitting taking notes and
• 19:56
  Speaker 12: barefoot in very casual and yet when.
• 19:58
  Speaker 5: She was put in call yeah, I don why should
• 20:00
  Speaker 5: that a use.
• 20:02
  Speaker 12: But when she left the court, and if she was
• 20:04
  Speaker 12: so laid back, then she could have left the court
• 20:06
  Speaker 12: at any times, but she deliberately left the court with
• 20:09
  Speaker 12: Kate Sayers. Now we're told that these two didn't know
• 20:11
  Speaker 12: each other before this case started and that whatever Rachel
• 20:15
  Speaker 12: Griffiths is working on has nothing to do with this
• 20:18
  Speaker 12: specific case.
• 20:19
  Speaker 9: She's just looking at how defamation proceedings play out.
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: I can't imagine a screenplay that would be more interesting
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: than this. I would just dump whatever you're working on
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: and do some drama series based on this.
• 20:32
  Speaker 5: I don't know. I've also heard they mix.
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: In similar social circle circles, so whether they know each
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: other or not, Now let's talk about Labour's budget continuing
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: to be the butt of jokes. A small business owners
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: launched a viral AI meme campaign depicting the Prime Minister
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: as their unwelcome co founder after capital gains tax changes
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: threatened to claim forty seven percent of their businesses.
• 20:56
  Speaker 5: One Labor backbencher said they.
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: Were embarrassed the memes, telling the Daily Telegraph, half of these.
• 21:04
  Speaker 5: Effing people are in my electorate.
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: By doing this, they have made us a laughing stock
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: in the heartland. Some people in Labor seem to have
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: forgotten that not everyone in business is rich, and plenty
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: of them.
• 21:17
  Speaker 5: Vote for us. There's some funny examples out there.
• 21:21
  Speaker 9: People are amazing.
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: I've seen so many, and I think it's a meme
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: that's going to have some leagues. We're going to see
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: this over and over again and it's funny because it's true.
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: You are going to have people who've worked their butts
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: of and suddenly Albo owns forty seven percent of their company.
• 21:40
  Speaker 12: Yeah, So these memes are basically saying, look, he's taking
• 21:42
  Speaker 12: so much of our company and our profits that we
• 21:44
  Speaker 12: may as well have him.
• 21:45
  Speaker 9: On the payroll anyway.
• 21:47
  Speaker 12: And look, he's wanted to be a hit on social media,
• 21:50
  Speaker 12: and he's wanted to go viol and now he's got it,
• 21:52
  Speaker 12: and it's probably not in.
• 21:53
  Speaker 9: The way that he would like.
• 21:55
  Speaker 12: There's absolutely nothing he can do about it, because if
• 21:57
  Speaker 12: he arcs up, people are just going to double down
• 22:00
  Speaker 12: do worse. And I think a lot of the people
• 22:02
  Speaker 12: who are creating and sharing and liking these memes are
• 22:05
  Speaker 12: people who probably voted Labor, probably voted friends and the
• 22:08
  Speaker 12: Albanezi who've got buyers remorse and are feeling very cheated.
• 22:12
  Speaker 12: And while it's two years until they can actually exercise
• 22:15
  Speaker 12: their vote at the polls, in the meantime, this.
• 22:17
  Speaker 9: Is their way of expressing their thoughts. And I'm loving it.
• 22:20
  Speaker 9: I'm here for.
• 22:21
  Speaker 5: It's fantastic because you're so right.
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: Politicians from all parties invest so heavily in social media.
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: They spend a lot of time on it. Sometimes they
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: spend a lot of money on it, and invariably it
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: doesn't work. It's lame, it doesn't resonate, it doesn't go viral.
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: And this has just happened organically, and this is precisely
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: what labor don't want.
• 22:42
  Speaker 5: Now before you go over a winfree.
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: She is reportedly leading the charge of Hollywood A listers
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: distancing themselves from Harry and Meghan as the couple's downfall continues.
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: One insider told The Daily Mail that Winfree is long
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: arming the Sussexes won't let them drift too far away
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: because quote, if something happens one of the three Big
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: d's divorce, death or drama, she will want the interview. Ah,
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: that sounds like Oprah.
• 23:13
  Speaker 5: Any sympathy here for the Ginger and the wind Jar, No,
• 23:16
  Speaker 5: absolutely none.
• 23:18
  Speaker 12: I think in Oprah's case, she coped so much flak
• 23:22
  Speaker 12: after that interview she did with Meghan because it was
• 23:24
  Speaker 12: a really poor interview. She didn't put any hard questions
• 23:27
  Speaker 12: to her. So the whole thing's just embarrassing for her.
• 23:29
  Speaker 12: But she's probably just maintaining that little bit of contact.
• 23:32
  Speaker 12: It's like Netflix, I've just left the door a tiny,
• 23:36
  Speaker 12: tiny bit because they're all waiting for the divorce, and
• 23:39
  Speaker 12: there was rumors that there was some sort of a
• 23:41
  Speaker 12: deal being done behind the scenes for the divorce book
• 23:44
  Speaker 12: if it ever happens. Nobody ever came out and sued
• 23:47
  Speaker 12: or denied that very strongly. So I think a lot
• 23:49
  Speaker 12: of these media entities are just sitting there waiting for
• 23:54
  Speaker 12: the whole marriage to come undone and for that story
• 23:56
  Speaker 12: to be told, because Megan will want to tell her
• 23:59
  Speaker 12: side of the story, I would think.
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: I mean, you can just see post divorce. You can
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: see Megan having a glow up. She is going to
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: do so many magazine covers. She's going to have all
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: the narrative setting happening.
• 24:14
  Speaker 5: And how is Harry going to handle that?
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: I mean that's because right now he doesn't have his
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: family's support. Will they accept back the prodigal side. I
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: know we are going way ahead. Maybe there will never
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: be a divice, But if I was a betting woman,
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: I'd bet on one.
• 24:29
  Speaker 12: I have no doubt in my mind that the Royals
• 24:31
  Speaker 12: would accept him back without Meghan. She's the problem for them.
• 24:36
  Speaker 5: They've got it for life.
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: Now, They've got two children, a prince and a Princess Dei,
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: Biddie Don Levy always a pleasure still to come left
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: his losing air plass all the laters from the US,
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: including Donald Trump teaming up with his billionaire nemesis Mark
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: Cuban Kosher Gator is up next. You're watching the Rida
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: Panehy Show, and it's time for lefties losing it. Let's
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: start with some tone deaf celebrity virtue signaling from the
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: dumb and delusional. Here is actress Poppylou, who left communist
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: China to come to capitalist America only to complain about capitalism.
• 25:23
  Speaker 5: My round is that.
• 25:24
  Speaker 4: Capitalism is the greatest eve on the world. Like the
• 25:26
  Speaker 4: people that are like, oh well, like don't you enjoy
• 25:28
  Speaker 4: the notes thingue, don't go bla blah, Yes I do.
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: And also I would be okay with it ever met
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: that more people in the world can live without oppression,
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: Like hello.
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: Yep, she's not complaining about the oppression in China, the
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: ethnic genocide of the Vegas, the gross human rights abuses
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: in that country, including the jailing, torture and killing of
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: political dissidents. No, the millionaire actress is railing against capitalism.
• 25:53
  Speaker 5: Let's now hear from one of the dimmest individuals.
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: To ever anchor a program on MSNBC, and that is
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: is a very low bar.
• 26:01
  Speaker 5: Indeed, folks, here is a joy read with Don Lemon.
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: It's clear these two have no idea how DEI actually works.
• 26:10
  Speaker 13: Maybe the way that jd Vance got into Yale is
• 26:12
  Speaker 13: because they were tired of just letting in white men
• 26:14
  Speaker 13: from New York, from cho from all the elite schools,
• 26:17
  Speaker 13: and they wanted an Appalachian way. That's how that man
• 26:19
  Speaker 13: got into Yale. I promise you same thing with Ron
• 26:22
  Speaker 13: Desanders from a small town in Florida. They wanted to
• 26:25
  Speaker 13: just get out of the New York DC matrix Massachusetts
• 26:28
  Speaker 13: matrix and let somebody into Harvard and Yale who came
• 26:31
  Speaker 13: from a different place. He came from Florida.
• 26:33
  Speaker 6: Baby.
• 26:33
  Speaker 13: That's also affirmative action.
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: And DEI and jd Vance has also been under attack
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: from another wildly delusional individual, some awkward dude called Clavicula,
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: who has convinced himself that he's the hot. This imbecile
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: even uses a hammer to reshape his face and he
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: says he's voting for Gavin Newsome because Gavin's hot.
• 26:57
  Speaker 14: Next election cycle, who's going to end. It's going to
• 26:59
  Speaker 14: be Gavin Newsome against Geddie Vance because gd Vance is
• 27:03
  Speaker 14: subhuman and Gavin Newsom marks Jedd Vance is subhuman. What
• 27:07
  Speaker 14: makes you say that he's got a very short total
• 27:09
  Speaker 14: official wid to hate ratio. He's abes very sass side profile,
• 27:14
  Speaker 14: whereas Newsom is like six three child.
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: To Saturday Night Live, or should be Saturday Night Lame,
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: because it is as funny as a migraine these days.
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: It's supposed to be a comedy show and the reason
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: why it's so unfunny is because they refuse to use
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: the rich material the looney left provide Daily. Instead, they're
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: hyper focused on bashing conservatives. Ninety one percent of their
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: content is about bashing conservatives, and that means they need
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: to come up with lies to set up jokes instead
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: of using the real world craziness of the modern left
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: to give us so much content Daily.
• 27:54
  Speaker 5: Now watched this sketch on Trump and Jeffrey.
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: Epstein, and note that Epstein was a Democrat. You won't
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: know this watching this sketch. Epstein wasn't just a Democrat.
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: He was a Democrat donut, someone who hated Donald Trump
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: and plotted to destroy him because Donald Trump cut all
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: ties with him, banned him from Mara Lago, and this
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: was years before he was convicted of anything. Epstein and
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: his offsider Gilain Maxwell cos it up to the Clinton's
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: not the Trumps. But all of that doesn't matter when
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: you're Saturday Night Live and determined to be tedious, afflicted
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: and painfully unfunny.
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: So what are you up to these days?
• 28:36
  Speaker 9: Jeff?
• 28:37
  Speaker 14: How's Evan?
• 28:38
  Speaker 5: It's really really hot?
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: But you know me, I keep busy majng every Wednesday
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: with Stalin and John wen Gasey.
• 28:49
  Speaker 5: That guy has stories. What else?
• 28:51
  Speaker 15: Oh? I just wrote for the Kevin Hart Roast.
• 28:54
  Speaker 16: Had some fun singers in there.
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: Good about you dining baby?
• 28:58
  Speaker 16: Any fun summer plans?
• 29:00
  Speaker 8: Well, you know we've got the World Cup UFC fight
• 29:03
  Speaker 8: on my lawn like I'm white trash.
• 29:04
  Speaker 15: On World Star.
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: And we're also doing the Patriot Games where high school
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: athletes come from all over the country.
• 29:12
  Speaker 6: Boy yeing.
• 29:15
  Speaker 5: And that my dear close friend that is a.
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: Beautiful fan.
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: Told you lame, so lacking in with it, so boring
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: and false. As author Daniel Friedman noted on X, progressives
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: like to talk about how Trump's name appears hundreds of
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: times in the Epstein files. But this is because Epstein
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: was an MSNBC watching boom, a lib who was constantly
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: complaining about Trump to anyone who would listen to him.
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: Wine there are no communications between Trump and Epstein in
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: any of the emails.
• 29:47
  Speaker 5: Now to New York.
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: City, where we hear from two Luigi Mangioni fangirls. These
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: are members of the press, credentialed by mayor Mam Danny.
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: They are openly endorsing murder, celebrating murder, mocking the children
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: of the murdered victim, Brian Thompson. This is Ashley Rojas
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: and Lena we sprot watching this. You know precisely who
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: they voted for.
• 30:23
  Speaker 10: What I said, his children are a better off without them.
• 30:27
  Speaker 11: They like then.
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: Yes, callous, vicious, and yet convinced that they are your
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: moral superiors. Let's bring in Sky News contributor Kosher Gata Kosher.
• 30:45
  Speaker 5: That is disturbing.
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: But as we saw with the Charlie Kirk murder, the
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: left's tolerance of violence, its celebration of violence, is a
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: growing problem. It's not isolated to the extremes anymore.
• 30:59
  Speaker 11: It is it.
• 31:00
  Speaker 15: I think the Charlie kirk Thing really laid that bare.
• 31:02
  Speaker 15: It was hundreds of thousands of people in terms of
• 31:05
  Speaker 15: there was this period of two weeks afterwards where people
• 31:08
  Speaker 15: were exposing TikTok celebrations and emails and Facebook posts, not
• 31:13
  Speaker 15: just from anybody, from nurses, from teachers, from people that
• 31:16
  Speaker 15: are supposed to be responsible and caring, and this, you know,
• 31:19
  Speaker 15: follows up. There have been many many.
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: Fan Instagram influences in Australia, yes, around the world, and
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: Luigi Magngioni also has his sort of fan club or
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: these groupies who like that.
• 31:29
  Speaker 15: And here they don't even have the facts right because
• 31:32
  Speaker 15: they take Brian Thompson as sort of an incarnation of
• 31:35
  Speaker 15: all that is wrong with healthcare and the distorted cost
• 31:38
  Speaker 15: of healthcare, which makes no sense at all because he
• 31:41
  Speaker 15: was actually somebody who came from pretty humble beginnings and
• 31:44
  Speaker 15: worked his way up the corporate ladder. He is not healthcare,
• 31:47
  Speaker 15: but that's how they think about it. So it's even
• 31:49
  Speaker 15: more foolish on top of that. But it is a
• 31:51
  Speaker 15: real problem and you don't see any accountability coming from it.
• 31:55
  Speaker 15: There's nothing legally that you can do because it's just speech.
• 31:58
  Speaker 15: But you know, firing people or somehow. Ostracizing them socially
• 32:02
  Speaker 15: are things that should be done, and we don't see
• 32:04
  Speaker 15: it being done, and therefore it's going to continue.
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: Well, the fact that those two had press credentials I
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: think troubled a lot of people as well. I mean,
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: how is meor man done his offers giving press credentials
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: to those individuals who who were there mocking the children
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: of the murder victim. I mean it's one thing to
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: be there and fangirling a murderer, but to be mocking
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: the victim's family. I think has just discussed lossing a line.
• 32:31
  Speaker 15: Yeah, it's a good point, and it's the opposite of
• 32:34
  Speaker 15: ostracizing them. He's giving them press passes. So we will
• 32:37
  Speaker 15: see if any accountability comes. But I'm not holding my breath.
• 32:40
  Speaker 9: Now.
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: Let's go to Louisiana, and we spoke yesterday about how
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: every rh I know, pretty much in America is being
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: primary to Helen Back and Bill.
• 32:48
  Speaker 5: Cassidy maybe the biggest loser yet.
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: CNN's Harryenton looked into the archives and he didn't find
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: anything like this since.
• 32:56
  Speaker 5: World War Two.
• 32:57
  Speaker 6: How bad Bill cassid is He got twenty five percent
• 33:00
  Speaker 6: of the vote. Okay, I went back and I looked
• 33:02
  Speaker 6: at every single non in point that non appointed senator.
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: This in my mind was.
• 33:08
  Speaker 6: The worst primary showing ever at least since the end
• 33:11
  Speaker 6: of World War Two. That is how Bill Cass. How
• 33:14
  Speaker 6: badly Bill Cassi he did. He did worse than every
• 33:17
  Speaker 6: single one, getting twenty five percent of the vote in
• 33:20
  Speaker 6: a for a senator and a primary. It's literally unheard of.
• 33:25
  Speaker 6: And that is because of course Donald Trump endorsed against
• 33:29
  Speaker 6: this guy.
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: There's losing, and there's losing. That dude is going to
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: regret that impeachment vote.
• 33:35
  Speaker 15: Kosher and Harriet Enton is the best thing on CNA
• 33:39
  Speaker 15: and he looks in and put.
• 33:41
  Speaker 5: I love the energy. The man is always up.
• 33:43
  Speaker 13: Yeah.
• 33:43
  Speaker 15: Yes, takes data and makes it really interesting. Now we
• 33:46
  Speaker 15: know since World War Two. You know how how this
• 33:49
  Speaker 15: has happened. And this is a ruby red state Louisiana.
• 33:51
  Speaker 15: He was the incumbent senator. That's what her engine was
• 33:53
  Speaker 15: getting at, that this should not happen.
• 33:56
  Speaker 9: It would never happen.
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: It's a safe seat third in its three way race.
• 33:59
  Speaker 15: Right. That's badly he had challengers because they knew that
• 34:04
  Speaker 15: he split from the base. I think every single person
• 34:06
  Speaker 15: who voted to impeach Trump and those j six trials
• 34:10
  Speaker 15: is gone. Either some of them didn't even run again,
• 34:13
  Speaker 15: they stepped out of the arena, or those who ran.
• 34:15
  Speaker 15: Liz Cheney, chief among them, was handily defeated. He's one
• 34:19
  Speaker 15: of the last remaining ones. So it's certainly another feather
• 34:22
  Speaker 15: in Trump's cap because January sixth, specifically that issue, it
• 34:26
  Speaker 15: was so clear to the Trump base about how distortive
• 34:29
  Speaker 15: that was and just the weight of the government and
• 34:32
  Speaker 15: everything around not only him, but his supporters and any
• 34:35
  Speaker 15: Republican that voted for that sort of sham hearing as
• 34:38
  Speaker 15: it's called, has paid the price.
• 34:40
  Speaker 5: Absolutely.
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: It's one thing where they haven't forgotten because during the
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: election campaign this was such a big issue for the base,
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: the fact that there was going to have to be
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: some sort of a reckoning about these issues, and a
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: lot of that's kind of been forgotten. We really haven't
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: had the indictments and the convictor and the people held
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: responsible for some of the politicization of these agencies for
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: the whole Russian collusion hoax. But when it comes to primary,
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: the people who voted to impeach, they have followed through
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: with that. Now let's go to DC where Judge Janine Pira,
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: as she was known on Fox News. She's now the
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: United States Attorney for the District of Columbia, and she
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: is laying down the law.
• 35:27
  Speaker 16: These are not harmless gatherings.
• 35:30
  Speaker 5: They are violent and.
• 35:32
  Speaker 16: They are disrupted. And you can see from what happened
• 35:36
  Speaker 16: at Chipotle's this past weekend, it was not just violence
• 35:41
  Speaker 16: occurring between individuals. It was simply destruction of property. It
• 35:46
  Speaker 16: was in takeover of a restaurant by individuals who felt
• 35:50
  Speaker 16: that they could get away with it.
• 35:52
  Speaker 5: Well, they're not going to get away with it, Kosha.
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: She went on to say the city belongs to law
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: abiding citizens and she's going to be taking a zero
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: tolerance approach to law and order.
• 36:03
  Speaker 15: She's on that spectrum Tony Bouclet that we always talk about.
• 36:06
  Speaker 15: She's like, you know, closer into that. And in DC
• 36:09
  Speaker 15: in particular, two things happened. One is Trump appointed her
• 36:12
  Speaker 15: to serve in this role of people forget she was
• 36:14
  Speaker 15: a judge.
• 36:14
  Speaker 9: She wasn't just a TV personality. She's tough as nails.
• 36:17
  Speaker 5: That's what they called the judge Jenay, right.
• 36:19
  Speaker 15: And then because a lot of people diminish that, like, oh,
• 36:22
  Speaker 15: he's got all these TV people in there. And then
• 36:23
  Speaker 15: the other thing is the putting the National Guard. That
• 36:26
  Speaker 15: was very controversial at the time. You can federalize law
• 36:29
  Speaker 15: and order in DC since it's a federal district, so
• 36:31
  Speaker 15: that was an extra lever available only for DC. Those
• 36:34
  Speaker 15: two things have made a difference. Crimes down, homicides are down.
• 36:37
  Speaker 15: But these things, what she's showing over there, they're calling
• 36:39
  Speaker 15: it teen takeovers, which of course euphemizes it like some
• 36:43
  Speaker 15: kind of Disney movie or something, But that's like complete vandalism,
• 36:46
  Speaker 15: and she's saying that she's going to hold them accountable
• 36:48
  Speaker 15: and their parents. It'll be interesting which statutes you can
• 36:51
  Speaker 15: apply to the parent if the crime was committed by
• 36:53
  Speaker 15: someone else, But if they're under eighteen, presumably there's something
• 36:56
  Speaker 15: in the law available to her, and that's another angle
• 36:59
  Speaker 15: she's trying, and hopefully that makes a difference.
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm glad you mentioned the way that they're trying
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: to minimize the criminality here, like it's just some harmless
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: TikTok phenomenon. You know, just because it's being taped and
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: shared online doesn't mean that people aren't being terrified, people
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: aren't being hurt, and properties and being vandalized and we
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: saw there it was pretty lawless. Now let's look at
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: a democrat and leftist activists, Mark Cuban standing with the
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: man that we thought he loth, Donald Trump at the
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: White House. This happened earlier today to promote cheaper prescription drugs.
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: Kosher tell me about the significance of this policy. I
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: did not think I would see these two standing together
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: being all friendly or trying to be friendly.
• 37:45
  Speaker 15: And they've known each other for twenty years. They're both
• 37:47
  Speaker 15: billionaires or both teving personalities, so there's love heat relationship,
• 37:51
  Speaker 15: I think, is how Cuban described it. And there are
• 37:53
  Speaker 15: people who really really hate Trump truly, and then there's
• 37:55
  Speaker 15: people who I think it's more performative. But then when
• 37:57
  Speaker 15: the election is over, they can maybe work together and
• 38:00
  Speaker 15: maybe in credit to Marque is one of them. This policy,
• 38:04
  Speaker 15: it's a step in the right direction for the fundamental
• 38:07
  Speaker 15: problem of health care costs in America, which is completely distorted, huge,
• 38:11
  Speaker 15: biggest bucket in household spending twenty percent of GDP. So
• 38:14
  Speaker 15: it's a step in the right direction. It doesn't solve
• 38:16
  Speaker 15: the biggest problems. It leads to that distortion in the market.
• 38:19
  Speaker 15: But what they're basically trying to do is improve transparency
• 38:22
  Speaker 15: of pricing for generic drugs and trying to remove the
• 38:27
  Speaker 15: opacity of the insurance layer. That is a big cause
• 38:30
  Speaker 15: for why the pricing is very distorted in the US
• 38:33
  Speaker 15: for drugs. You go through insurance, there's no transparency between
• 38:36
  Speaker 15: the buyer and the seller. And these websites and tromp Burex,
• 38:39
  Speaker 15: which is a portal and then it goes to websites
• 38:42
  Speaker 15: like Mark Cuban's online pharmacy that he founded a couple
• 38:44
  Speaker 15: of years ago and Amazon and others. Will be a
• 38:47
  Speaker 15: step in the direction of improving that transparency to bring
• 38:50
  Speaker 15: drugs down. It maybe makes a difference to like ten
• 38:53
  Speaker 15: percent of the household cost of healthcare. So it's something
• 38:57
  Speaker 15: and a step in the right direction. It's good to
• 38:58
  Speaker 15: see a little bit of bipartis an effort to solve
• 39:00
  Speaker 15: some of these fundamental problems and the American economy.
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: Absolutely because there are people getting very rich in unscrupulous fashions. See,
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: we're all for addressing that. We're not for unfettered capitalism.
• 39:17
  Speaker 5: Not on this show.
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: Now, Trump spoke about working with Mark Cuban, despite the
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: fact that Cuban endorsed Kamala Harris campaigned for her. Trump
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: had this to say, Well, he made a mistake. It
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: was a big mistake. So that's actually very diplomatic of him.
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: I could have expected him to say a lot more now.
• 39:39
  Speaker 5: Before you go.
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: Spanish police have warned that Islamist terrorists could exploit the
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: government's mass migrant legislation programs. Spain's socialist Prime Minister Pedro
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: Sanchez approved a major initiative last month to grant legal
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: status to half a million undocumented individuals.
• 40:00
  Speaker 5: An internal police.
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: Memo showed that complaints over missing documents like passports have
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: risen among migrants.
• 40:07
  Speaker 5: Who seek to benefit from this scheme. So, surprise, surprise.
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: You might have some Islamists using this scheme to get
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: a foothold in Spain. And once you're in Spain you
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: have got access to other EU countries.
• 40:21
  Speaker 15: Of course, and I appreciate the memo, but we don't
• 40:23
  Speaker 15: need a memo.
• 40:24
  Speaker 5: We know it's obvious.
• 40:25
  Speaker 15: The police knows it. Pedro Sanchez knows it, and he's
• 40:28
  Speaker 15: still doing it. And that actually is the real problem.
• 40:31
  Speaker 15: All these leaders know it at this point, and the
• 40:32
  Speaker 15: ones that are of the left that are still pushing
• 40:34
  Speaker 15: unfedered immigration illegally being laxed, legally having all these programs refugees, asylum,
• 40:40
  Speaker 15: temporary protected status, students, temporary workers that are never temporary,
• 40:45
  Speaker 15: and then later on they'll give amnesty like this bill,
• 40:48
  Speaker 15: and of course even those people are not helpful to
• 40:51
  Speaker 15: the country, hence the whole immigration debate. But then on
• 40:53
  Speaker 15: top of that, there's this extra layer that there could
• 40:55
  Speaker 15: be very nefarious actors that use these very weak flaws
• 40:58
  Speaker 15: to their advantage, and terrorists could be all sorts of
• 41:01
  Speaker 15: gang members in the US and other people that get
• 41:03
  Speaker 15: in and nobody asked for it, nobody's.
• 41:06
  Speaker 11: Voting for it.
• 41:06
  Speaker 15: The people of Spain, I'm sure, don't want it, as
• 41:08
  Speaker 15: we can see in Paul after Paul.
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: But here it is but half a million, that's not
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: an significant number. Could that impact future elections in Spain?
• 41:17
  Speaker 9: Yes, I think.
• 41:18
  Speaker 15: You know, it's this double dynamic where on the one hand,
• 41:21
  Speaker 15: the people don't want it, and that's why you keep
• 41:23
  Speaker 15: seeing this wave of populism and right wing nationalist leaders
• 41:26
  Speaker 15: succeeding and you're a Latin America North America. But then
• 41:29
  Speaker 15: simultaneously the other factors, you're letting these people in and
• 41:32
  Speaker 15: they tend to vote left, and so it's sort of
• 41:34
  Speaker 15: a numbers game that you let in half a million
• 41:36
  Speaker 15: people in time, they're going to outvote the actual Spaniards
• 41:40
  Speaker 15: who don't want it. So I think it's becoming more
• 41:42
  Speaker 15: and more the issue of our time in every election,
• 41:45
  Speaker 15: and the stakes are just getting high and high as
• 41:47
  Speaker 15: both sides.
• 41:47
  Speaker 5: Well, there's a clean incentive, there isn't that.
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: If if you're a hard left socialist government and you
• 41:53
  Speaker 3: want to bolster your vote granting half a million asylum
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: seekers or people in the country illegally citizenship, that's going
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: to help you at the polls. And I think that's
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: a big reason why it's happened.
• 42:07
  Speaker 9: Coach.
• 42:08
  Speaker 5: Thank you so much for Thank you.
• 42:09
  Speaker 3: Still to come all the latest from the UK, including
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: more on the massive Unite the Kingdom protest broadcaster Andrew.
• 42:17
  Speaker 5: Eborn joins me next Welcome back.
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: Joining me now is Barristan broadcaster Andrew Eborn. Andrew, we
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: saw huge numbers marching against mass immigration and against the
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: leftist government of Kiir Starmer the Unite the Kingdom rally
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: over the weekend, and then huge numbers showed up even
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: after Kiir Starmer and others on the left try to
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: categorize this rally as racist and divisive and led by
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: thugs and extremists.
• 42:58
  Speaker 5: Andrew people still showed up.
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: Oh absolutely, And they always say George Orwells says, look,
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: if liberty means anything at all, he means the right
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: to tell people what they do not want to hear.
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: And I can tell you I have on my show
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: many people from all sorts of political persuasions. I went
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: down to the rally. I was given a backstage pass
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: and interviewed a lot of the key speakers, basically to
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: clarify what happened. Kirs Starmer, you remember he went to
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: the Oval Office, he met with Trump und reassured Trump
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: in February twenty twenty five that freedom of speech is
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: alive and well in the UK. Well, I can tell
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: you it's in a critical condition because he actually banned
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: a number of the speakers who were going to be
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: coming over here, people who are maps, people who had
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: so on and so forth. And his justification was that
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: they were going to be extremest views and so on
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: and so forth. And what happens reat is they shut
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: down debate by labeling it as far right. And I
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: put it to a number of the people, including the organizers. Basically, okay,
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: this is unite the kingdom, which part of the kingdom
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: is welcome in this discussion. And I looked at the
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: crowds and interviewed people. They were from all races, all creeds,
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: all persuasions, and so on and so forth. There were
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: family members there with their children and so on and
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: so forth, and it was a very friendly event. And
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: they had a similar event in Christmas where they were
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: putting Christ into Christmas, and they had gospel singers, they
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: had black gospel singers, they had preachers there, they read
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: from the scriptures and so on and so forth. So
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: to label thing as far right is just to dismiss
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: that argument. And it's not far right to turn around
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: and question and be concerned about things. And I always say, look,
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: truth is the best remedy. Who like, my only mistress
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: is the truth. And when I interview people from all
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: political persuasions, it's to look at that sort of side.
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: Sunlight is the best disinfectant. Let's look at the real
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: issues and try to find out causes and also resolution.
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: Because georgeaw not war war has to be the key message.
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: Well, there are people from all sorts of backgrounds and
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: these rallies. We applied a number of clips yesterday showing
• 45:07
  Speaker 3: people from all across the ethnic spectrum showing up. But
• 45:13
  Speaker 3: one of the things that I noted, which I guess
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: surprised a few people, was the amount of Christian symbolism
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: that was there.
• 45:20
  Speaker 5: Andrew tell me about that, which is interesting.
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: You say about surprising people, and I think that's right.
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: What happens is when you label something as far right,
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: people don't even bother to listen to it. They assume
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: that that's right. And there is so much misinformation and disinformation.
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: We're drowning in a sea of fake news, if you like,
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: where debate is shut down by these labels and they're
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: basically smears. And what happens is a number of people
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: who were banned are going to threaten to sue Kir
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: Starmer as a result of it. We have an map
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: from a Polisher MEP. Basically he's threatened to personally see
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: Kiir Starmer once he's out of office. Interviewed. As I say,
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: a number of people behind there because I all think
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: it's fair. Rather than listening to what other people say,
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: they're saying, ask them directly. So Glenn Beck for example,
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: the American conservative political commentator I interviewed him. He was
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: telling me that he managed to get his visa, but
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: he was threatened that if he said anything on stage
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: which was controversial or whatever, they would ban him in
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: the future. And we had that discussion about freedom of speech,
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: but not freedom from consequences, because you work out where
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: is the line, and obviously inciting violence, inciting anything which
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: is criminal is clearly not acceptable. Defamation has its own
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: laws and people will basically have to respond to that
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: as well. But basically asking people to question things, to
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: use their own minds to gather their own intelligence, has
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: got to be right. But he was very concerned about that.
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: I also talked to a number of other people. There
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: is a deputy leader of well the previously of Reform
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: UK now the leader of Advance, a chap called Ben Habib,
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: who you may or may not know. He had a
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: big spat with Piers Morgan because he used the phrase
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: home grown culture and Piers Morgan ranted a raven and
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: said well that's racist and so on and so forth,
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: and A clarified on my show basically, well what did
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: you mean, Ben? And when he talks about homegrown culture
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: because his own father is Pakistani, he's from Punjab. He's
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: over here in his nineties, and he's not saying, of course,
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: we're not talking about deporting him. We're talking about assimilation.
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: If people come over here, it's basically making sure you
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: respect the culture and so on and so forth. You're
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: not trying to fight against the government and so people
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: are welcome. And I think that's what we have to
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: try and do. Get away from the rhetoric, ask people
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: directly what they mean, get those views clarified. And that's
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: what I say, georgeaw not war war, That's how we
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: do it. And as I said beforehand, when basically I
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: put it this way, is that when the love of
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: power is surpassed by the power of love, that's how
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: you get peace.
• 48:01
  Speaker 3: Now, before you go, I want to play you a
• 48:03
  Speaker 3: clip from Australian actress holy the Lance, who was at
• 48:07
  Speaker 3: the rally, and she had this to say.
• 48:10
  Speaker 10: Don't be embarrassed and don't be too scared to stand
• 48:12
  Speaker 10: up for your country.
• 48:13
  Speaker 9: The place that you love has.
• 48:14
  Speaker 5: Given you everything.
• 48:15
  Speaker 4: It's given your freedom, it's given you.
• 48:17
  Speaker 9: The great life that you have.
• 48:19
  Speaker 10: Respected, Respect the culture, respect the flag, don't be embarrassed
• 48:23
  Speaker 10: to fly the flag, lead patriotic.
• 48:26
  Speaker 8: Stand in that and don't let anybody.
• 48:28
  Speaker 9: Tell you that your a racist.
• 48:29
  Speaker 10: Are doing so disgusting and treacherous.
• 48:32
  Speaker 3: And treasons Andrew Holly also said that she's proud to
• 48:36
  Speaker 3: be right wing. It's a very unusual position when you're
• 48:41
  Speaker 3: from the entertainment industry, but she's owning it.
• 48:45
  Speaker 16: Well.
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: I think that's right. Well, I think people being proud
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: of their country, being proud of their flag and so
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: proud of their culture and rich heritage is not a
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: bad thing. And it's slightly drag in cheek. I saw
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: Holly there as well as I say, I spoke to
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: lots of people to get lots of different and she's
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: right in terms of I think she's basically dismissing the label.
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: If people are saying, look, this is just a smear.
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: Call me what you like, but these are my views,
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: and that's my point Rey to you're turning around and
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: saying to people, rather than put a label on them,
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: asking what their actual views are, because you'll find that
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: most people, when you unpack it, sensibly would not disagree.
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: Being proud is not a sin. Be concerned about some
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: real issues is also not racists and shouldn't be dismissed
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: on on that sort of basis. It was a multicultural event.
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: It was a joyous event. Lots of people were very
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: happy to be there. It was very peaceful. They were singing,
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: There were lots of Christian symbols, as you say, and
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: every color, every creed, every possible persuasion. Young and old
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: were there celebrating freedom of speech. Let's not let freedom
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: of speech die. It is our fundamental right. We must
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: continue not just asking the questions, but questioning those answers.
• 49:53
  Speaker 5: Absolutely.
• 49:54
  Speaker 3: Andrew Abourne, thank you so much for your time tonight,
• 49:57
  Speaker 3: and that's all the time we have.
• 50:00
  Speaker 5: Don't go anywhere. Newsnight is up next