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90 Day Fiancé The Other Way Season 8 Episode 4 “Schnapps on the Rocks” Part 1 · Vanity Farah with Chris Farah

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Speaker 1: Hi, everyone. Welcome back to Vanity Fair. My name is
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Speaker 1: Chris Farah, and today we're talking 90 Day Honey. It's
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Speaker 1: the fiance. It's the other day. We call it toe.
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Speaker 1: It's season eight, episode four, schnapps on the rocks. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: a lot of schnapps. Guess what? People love schnapps. If
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Speaker 1: you haven't been drinking schnapps, people have in other parts
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Speaker 1: of the world been drinking it. So get on board.
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Speaker 1: And they don't just drink it, honey. They use it
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Speaker 1: as currency. It's that important. Listen, not that much of
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Speaker 1: a drinker. Don't even think about schnapps. You know, when
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Speaker 1: it comes to spending money on alcohol. I think that,
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Speaker 1: you know, by far the most I spend is on wine,
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Speaker 1: you know? And so, but you know, it's just interesting. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: What spirits literally cultures take into heart as being, you know,
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Speaker 1: really important. Like, you know, I think about because I
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Speaker 1: love Chekhov so much, how much the Russians love vodka.
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Speaker 1: Like it's, I mean, not to like be a stereotype,
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Speaker 1: but I'm just saying in Chekhov plays, there's a lot
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Speaker 1: of vodka. You know, just like if you were to
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Speaker 1: go down, you know, to certain parts of America, there's
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Speaker 1: going to be a lot of beer, you know, so
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Speaker 1: just interesting. But schnapps, honey, yeah, just very important. I
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Speaker 1: feel like schnapps makes me think of like apple puckers.
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Speaker 1: Is schnapps, olive schnapps, very sweet? Honey, we don't know.
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Speaker 1: And by we, I mean just me. You're like, bitch,
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Speaker 1: I know. You're a schnapps enthusiast, I guess. Let me
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Speaker 1: tell you, if you want to send me some schnapps
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Speaker 1: so I know how to A, say it, B, know
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Speaker 1: what I'm talking about, and then A, you know, can
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Speaker 1: also taste it, that's fine. Turns out you owe me
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Speaker 1: a fine. I charge you schnapps, a fee of schnapps,
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Speaker 1: a parcel of schnapps. is the fee. Okay. Obviously I
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Speaker 1: want to start with them, but I'm not going to. Okay.
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Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I'm actually going to start with Jesse and Vittoro,
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Speaker 1: which great. Now, obviously I talked about a lot of snops.
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Speaker 1: Something else happens in this episode that cements the idea
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Speaker 1: that thematically there has been a shift in how we
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Speaker 1: edit 90 day episodes because they have now for the
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Speaker 1: third time, twice in this episode, once last episode, did
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Speaker 1: this B-footage role intro to a couple where they are
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Speaker 1: suddenly talking to someone else in the country that we
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Speaker 1: are in. You know, it's the other way, so they're
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Speaker 1: in different countries, right? And we are experiencing, I guess,
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Speaker 1: someone else's point of view. in this culture for whatever reason.
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Speaker 1: And it happens in the following three ways. So last episode,
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Speaker 1: we had this French guy, right? Just suddenly making candies,
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Speaker 1: just like out of the blue, just like, this is
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Speaker 1: how we make La Bergamot candy, fancy, fancy Danancy candies
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Speaker 1: that sell for thousands of dollars, you know, whatever. And
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Speaker 1: I remember just watching it being like, is this Ben's
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Speaker 1: family's candy? company, but it wasn't right. Ben doesn't work
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Speaker 1: in a candy company. He doesn't work in a Charlie, Charlie,
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Speaker 1: like Charlie, a chocolate factory, nor does he work in
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Speaker 1: a candy factory or nor sort of candy, anything, honey.
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Speaker 1: He's not a confectioner. I can't believe I knew that word.
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Speaker 1: I couldn't say chocolate factory earlier, but I just suddenly
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Speaker 1: would just say confectioner. It's just that, fine. But it's just, yeah,
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Speaker 1: like he, he had no part of the candy storyline.
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Speaker 1: And so the storyline happens just as like this, like
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Speaker 1: extra fun layer of French culture. Like, you know, in France,
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Speaker 1: they make their own candies, the old fashioned way by
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Speaker 1: just pouring things from pots. And you were like, oh, wow, no,
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Speaker 1: we just, we eat the bad shit from Skittles, you know,
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Speaker 1: we don't even know how that is. May we're Americans.
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Speaker 1: Like that's like what I guess the editing is supposed
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Speaker 1: to do. And it happens two times in this episode.
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Speaker 1: One is a guy from Ghana, just like talking about
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Speaker 1: the importance of getting the family's approval, like how important
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Speaker 1: it is to have your parents, your parental units in Ghana,
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Speaker 1: like who you're with. Which, you know, is going to
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Speaker 1: allude to like a new couple or whatever. And just,
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Speaker 1: I guess, giving us an insight. If we're supposed to
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Speaker 1: be like, I don't care if my mom or my
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Speaker 1: dad likes my person. Who cares? I just think mom
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Speaker 1: and my dad, they gave birth to me. I haven't
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Speaker 1: seen them in 20 years. I'm American. You know, whatever
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Speaker 1: it is supposed to be, right? Like it's supposed to
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Speaker 1: be this like, Americans don't know what it's like to
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Speaker 1: want to have your parents love you still and care
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Speaker 1: about that. So we need, you know, and that the
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Speaker 1: parents would have a say over the children and, you
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Speaker 1: that the society is worked in such a way where
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Speaker 1: people are associated with the family and a family's name
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Speaker 1: and what that means culturally and in the social economic
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Speaker 1: situation or social landscape of, you know, how they live. And,
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Speaker 1: you know, that's just not the case in America. And
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Speaker 1: it happens the third time in the, I think, arguably
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Speaker 1: the dumbest way, which now we're in Australia where, And
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Speaker 1: it's just, we see some white guy, just older guy,
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Speaker 1: just about to get served steak that's going to be
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Speaker 1: still sizzling on a plate, honey. And then he's just
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Speaker 1: going to be like, I would never be in a
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Speaker 1: non-monogamous relationship in Australia. Like just talking about how I
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Speaker 1: guess it's not common. And I think that that's interesting
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Speaker 1: because I think, were we all sitting here being like, wow,
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Speaker 1: those Aussies love E and M. I mean, you're making
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Speaker 1: it seem like Aussies are okay with walking barefoot everywhere
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Speaker 1: in places where I don't think they probably love that.
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Speaker 1: That's more like, I would rather that man be like, no,
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Speaker 1: I don't walk with no shoes on in the grocery store.
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Speaker 1: That's not my way of life. And the steak that
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Speaker 1: he's eating looks crazy. Maybe it's not steak. Maybe it
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Speaker 1: was swordfish or something. Because I'm telling you, the color
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Speaker 1: of it was off. And I don't eat fish, so
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Speaker 1: I don't know what it was. But it looked weird.
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Speaker 1: I mean, what are you eating, sir? I don't care
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Speaker 1: about your E & M life or lack thereof. No
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Speaker 1: shit you like monogamy. You are boomer-esque. Really? Okay. So...
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Speaker 1: As I said, I'm going to start with Jesse and Ritoro.
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Speaker 1: So this is the couple we love to hate. I mean,
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Speaker 1: we are really dealing with it online. I did release
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Speaker 1: a reel where I have pictures from the Airbnb. That,
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Speaker 1: of course, is where Ritoro was like, I bought this place,
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Speaker 1: my new place outside of Florence. So easy just for
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Speaker 1: me to pop in when I'm not traveling. I pick
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Speaker 1: an egg up and then I move about my day.
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Speaker 1: Somehow the eggs are picked up every other day by someone,
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Speaker 1: I don't know who, The horse is named Astero. Okay.
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Speaker 1: So he is walking around his new estate and he
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Speaker 1: looks over yonder with Jesse. He's like, my family lived
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Speaker 1: over there by that villa. And we're like, well, is
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Speaker 1: that true? Because now neither up nor down is real.
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Speaker 1: People are like, he was born in America. Now he
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Speaker 1: definitely is someone who was born in Italy. I think
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Speaker 1: that he might've lived in America or he has dual
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Speaker 1: American passport citizenship or something like that. But the other
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Speaker 1: thing about him, and I think this is like hard
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Speaker 1: to deal with, is that he does feel like he's
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Speaker 1: pushing that accent. You know? Um, okay. So they go
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Speaker 1: on his motorcycle and she's not thrilled to be there,
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Speaker 1: but then we meet his friends and his friends are
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Speaker 1: named Marco and Fabio. Okay. So, uh, Fabio right away
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Speaker 1: is like, you have a beautiful girl there. I mean,
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Speaker 1: I don't know why I gave him an American accent.
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Speaker 1: He's like, he speaks like it sort of like he
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Speaker 1: could probably speak different languages because when he speaks English,
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Speaker 1: there's no, there's not really an accent and yet he
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Speaker 1: can speak perfect Italian good for him. So then, you know,
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Speaker 1: the thing about Vittorio's life is because he's rich and
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Speaker 1: part of a tennis club that is upper echelon, maybe
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Speaker 1: old money, where people don't act a certain way. And
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Speaker 1: people are supposed to be, I guess, well-behaved, like mild-mannered, snotty.
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Speaker 1: He's allowed... very abrasive, sort of like he's not an
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Speaker 1: elegant man at all. All that he has given to
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Speaker 1: us is a someone who has a fashion opinion, highly
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Speaker 1: opinionated about fashion and is obnoxious, like very loud. He
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Speaker 1: is loud, right? Like I, I wouldn't have faulted him
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Speaker 1: about all of this, except that he is making it
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Speaker 1: seem like his whole life is dependent on his good
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Speaker 1: reputation of being, I guess, what, well-mannered? Classy? No. I mean,
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Speaker 1: I hate, and you know I hate this, when people
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Speaker 1: try and act rich on TV. when I can smell
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Speaker 1: the cheap, I can smell it. I can smell small
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Speaker 1: bank accounts and small... I mean, I don't mean to
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Speaker 1: be a bitch like that, but come on. Okay? Come on.
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Speaker 1: So let me just say this. Marco is attractive, right?
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Speaker 1: Marco is attractive. And when Jesse looks at Marco... She
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Speaker 1: can't take his eyes. She cannot take her eyes off
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Speaker 1: of him. And she proceeds to, I fuck him, not once,
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Speaker 1: not twice. I mean, she can't stop just like giving
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Speaker 1: him the fucking eye. And I get it. She hasn't
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Speaker 1: seen a hot piece in a minute. Vittorio is not it.
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Speaker 1: He's an asshole to her. Marco's hot. And you know, listen, listen,
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Speaker 1: we talk about passport bros. We talk, and there's definitely
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Speaker 1: the female equivalents, passport, I guess, hoes. Though, whatever, it's
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Speaker 1: a bad name. But surely I did fantasize about going
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Speaker 1: off to Italy and meeting an Italian lover, an Italian
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Speaker 1: lover that we would passionately make out, perhaps in a
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Speaker 1: cobblestone alley or something like that. There's like stone, you know,
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Speaker 1: there's like, it's, he, there's a wall and, uh, I'm safe.
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Speaker 1: It's hot. Um, Vittorio's not that. Marco is barely that,
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Speaker 1: but all I'm saying is Marco is looking good because
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Speaker 1: that's the opposite of Jesse's existences. She has been taken
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Speaker 1: off into the country. She hates it. This man is
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Speaker 1: not attractive. The thing about Vittorio, and this is the
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Speaker 1: God's honest truth, and half of me is like, don't
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Speaker 1: say it. It's mean, Chris. And the other half of
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Speaker 1: me is like, say it, Chris. Say it for every
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Speaker 1: female in the entire world. It does feel like most
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Speaker 1: straight men move through this world never worrying about whether
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Speaker 1: they are attractive for women, period. So you have men
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Speaker 1: that are hideous calling women ugly. You have men that
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Speaker 1: are hideous, you know, like trying to shame women for like,
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Speaker 1: you know, either thinking that they're gold diggers. Like you
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Speaker 1: have hideous men shaming women left or right. Like you
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Speaker 1: have hideous ugly men shaming women. You have hideous rich
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Speaker 1: men shaming, like shaming women. And so I don't know where,
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Speaker 1: you know, Vittorio lands. But either way, he's not attractive.
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Speaker 1: Not attractive. And I mean, facially, and I mean, stature wise,
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Speaker 1: I mean, like the way that he moves, like he's
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Speaker 1: not an attractive suitor for a cisgender female, Jesse type lady. Period. Period.
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Speaker 1: So I don't want to have to hear about whether
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Speaker 1: she's this or whether she's that or whether she's hot
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Speaker 1: enough for him or whatnot, because he's not hot enough
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Speaker 1: for her at all. And then the reason why I
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Speaker 1: can talk about it is because his personality is so shitty.
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Speaker 1: You can't be ugly and mean. You can't be ugly
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Speaker 1: and mean. Does that mean to say great? I don't
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Speaker 1: care if you think I'm ugly or not. It's the truth.
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Speaker 1: You cannot be ugly and mean. You can be like
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Speaker 1: blunt and truthful, but it's very canceling to lash out
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Speaker 1: at someone for being distasteful to you when A, no
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Speaker 1: one asked you. And B, you are surely not of
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Speaker 1: the taste for much more this person. Now, he has
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Speaker 1: given his behavior on a platter for us to comment.
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Speaker 1: And so we can, and we will. Thank you. But
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Speaker 1: it's not just him, right? Like there is this idea
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Speaker 1: that it feels like some men walk through this world,
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Speaker 1: like they're thinking that like they are like the, you know,
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Speaker 1: character of a video game and like any sort of
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Speaker 1: like slutty big chested girl that comes their way is
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Speaker 1: just a character in the game and their protagonist surely
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Speaker 1: gets to have this one and you know that's just
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Speaker 1: the way it is and he gives me that vibe
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Speaker 1: yeah yeah he he All of this talk of wanting
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Speaker 1: to have sex with her now and being like, I
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Speaker 1: didn't try to have sex with her the first night.
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Speaker 1: It's like, you're gross. Supes gross. Yeah. And also, if
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Speaker 1: this was supposed to happen, if you guys had any
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Speaker 1: sort of vibe, you would have absolutely had sex before.
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Speaker 1: There would have been a whole ass reason. You either
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Speaker 1: would have had sex before or you would be waiting
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Speaker 1: for marriage for whatever various reason you want to give me.
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Speaker 1: But there is no like, we just hadn't had sex
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Speaker 1: and now we're going to. Mm-mm. Now, you could also
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Speaker 1: be like, they're fake. And I'd be like, okay, fine.
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Speaker 1: But here's the thing. So she, for some reason, knew
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Speaker 1: to bring a tennis outfit for this trip, but then
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Speaker 1: not tennis whites, okay? And he certainly didn't tell her.
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Speaker 1: So now she's like the Scarlet Letter, honey. She's like
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Speaker 1: fucking Vivian Lee. She's just like coming down, honey. She's
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Speaker 1: just like gone with the wind in a red ass,
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Speaker 1: you know, slutty ass, and I love it. Devil ass
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Speaker 1: tennis outfit. And everyone else is wearing white. Now, she's
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Speaker 1: also not good, not good. Not good. And either am I.
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Speaker 1: It's really hard to play tennis and also it's annoying
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Speaker 1: to play with men. It's a nightmare to play pickleball
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Speaker 1: because tennis is like really up close and men, certain
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Speaker 1: men love to just like hit that ball so fucking fast,
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Speaker 1: you know? Anyway. And guess what? Jessie doesn't have like
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Speaker 1: a strapping hunk of a tennis player to like help
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Speaker 1: her out getting those balls. She has like a wimpy
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Speaker 1: nightmare sort of like lame bully, little bully, fucking Napoleon
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Speaker 1: goddamn asshole to her right being like, net again. Oh yes,
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Speaker 1: he can get it. You know, whatever it is, you know,
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Speaker 1: my Italian accent is really just, it's really bad. I
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Speaker 1: keep thinking that maybe I'll just take a whole summer
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Speaker 1: off and just try and learn every accent I don't
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Speaker 1: know how to do. There's a bunch. I mean, Italian's one.
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Speaker 1: I can't really do Italian at all. And I would
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Speaker 1: love to be able to perfect a French accent. I
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Speaker 1: also would love to be able to do an Australian
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Speaker 1: accent and Russian and Persian. I would love to be
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Speaker 1: able to do an Iranian accent. Okay. Can't do it all.
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Speaker 1: Can't do any. Can't. None of it. Slight French. Okay.
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Speaker 1: So basically... She, at the end of this game, she's
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Speaker 1: like had her, you know, wits of him just yelling
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Speaker 1: and chastising her left and right. And she just wants
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Speaker 1: to fuck Marco and get on with her goddamn life.
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Speaker 1: And they decide to get drinks after, but she doesn't
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Speaker 1: want to have, I guess, alcohol. So she decides to
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Speaker 1: get a cappuccino. I guess caffeine doesn't affect her. Now
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Speaker 1: he takes offense to that. He's like, cappuccino after eight.
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Speaker 1: He's just like so upset. And the following things. In
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Speaker 1: his mind, he wants her to order alcohol, I guess,
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Speaker 1: to loosen her up, to have fun with his friends,
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Speaker 1: and or to fuck her later if we're supposed to
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Speaker 1: believe everything, this is all real. Now, two things. If
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Speaker 1: he wanted to fuck her later and he wanted her
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Speaker 1: to be loosened up around his friends, he certainly should
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Speaker 1: not have yelled and be mean to her the entire
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Speaker 1: time in front of his friends, like some weird, yeah,
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Speaker 1: just troll. She says he's a troll and it's true.
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Speaker 1: It's like he offers her up for his friends for
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Speaker 1: their amusement and pokes fun at her and is thinking
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Speaker 1: that she's going to be into it. And his friends
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Speaker 1: don't do anything. They watch all that and they're just like, gross.
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Speaker 1: So she's like, yeah, I want a cappuccino. Do you
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Speaker 1: fucking hear me? Yeah, a cappuccino. And he's like, you can't.
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Speaker 1: You can't order one. That's so stupid of you. What
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Speaker 1: a wrong choice. And she's like, what the fuck? Now,
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Speaker 1: here's the thing. Let her order whatever the fuck she wants.
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Speaker 1: Let her order whatever she wants. Stop being a controlling asshole.
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Speaker 1: And definitely if someone doesn't want to order alcohol, you
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Speaker 1: can't make them. That's weird. You're not even at a
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Speaker 1: club or a bar. You're at a club, a tennis club. No,
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Speaker 1: it's rude. It's controlling. And I hate you. How gross.
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Speaker 1: Sit down. Who the fuck do you think you are?
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Speaker 1: And actually stand up. I won't go to see you.
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Speaker 1: You're too short. I'll lose you in the crowd if
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Speaker 1: you sit down. I won't ever see you again. Okay. Again,
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Speaker 1: I'm being mean. It makes me upset, right? Okay. It
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Speaker 1: obviously triggers me. I really hate when people are mean
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Speaker 1: to women. It really makes me upset. Okay. So she's like,
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Speaker 1: this is all too much. It's too much. It's too much.
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Speaker 1: It's too much. It's too much. She says it's too much.
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Speaker 1: Guess what? Too much times. Too many times. It is
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Speaker 1: too much. She goes off to the bathroom. They try
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Speaker 1: and talk, and he is a friend that is watching,
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Speaker 1: and she's like, you don't care about my feelings. He's like,
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Speaker 1: it's because you're... making a scene i need to protect
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Speaker 1: my reputation she's like fuck your reputation i don't give
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Speaker 1: a fuck about your reputation yeah he is just a
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Speaker 1: nasty soul an elitist nasty soul I don't know. He
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Speaker 1: does not have mirrors in his house. He's never watched himself.
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Speaker 1: I can't imagine that he really goes to bed at
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Speaker 1: night thinking people want to fuck him and therefore he
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Speaker 1: should just keep acting the way he's acting because he
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Speaker 1: has a choice. Does he have women throwing him at
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Speaker 1: himself all the time? This is not it. Unless he's
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Speaker 1: gay and he hates women. I mean, could be. He,
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Speaker 1: you know, he at one time, he tries to talk
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Speaker 1: his friends and like, no, I do love her. I
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Speaker 1: totally love her because she's really hot. She's bellissima, like
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Speaker 1: I said. Perfect for me. Just that her attitude, her
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Speaker 1: personality is bad. His friends don't say anything like, so
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Speaker 1: is yours, asshole. They're like, you just need some stability.
20:55
Speaker 1: We also find out that Bagno is bathroom in not
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Speaker 1: only Spanish, also Italian. Also, but It's Beto. Anyway, she
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Speaker 1: comes out and she's like, you've turned me the fuck off.
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Speaker 1: You've turned me off. I just can't do it. And
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Speaker 1: half of me is like, this is so weird. Like,
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Speaker 1: wouldn't he have turned you off the three minutes after
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Speaker 1: you met him? And then I have another conspiracy. So
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Speaker 1: word of the street is that he is a sales
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Speaker 1: associate at Hermes. And then I kind of want to
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Speaker 1: be like, is all of this Jesse's angle to get
21:44
Speaker 1: a Birkin? I mean, a Kelly? I would rather a Kelly, personally.
21:49
Speaker 1: I'm more of a Kelly girl. I think Kellys are
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Speaker 1: more special. You know, everyone's, you know, obviously Birkins are whatever,
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Speaker 1: expensive-ass purses, but they are not... elegant, you know, nighttime
22:06
Speaker 1: formal purses, right? Like elegant or not, they're kind of
22:10
Speaker 1: like an everyday, everyday bag. Like that is what the
22:15
Speaker 1: Birkin is. It's a huge spaces, everyday leather bag. Like
22:19
Speaker 1: when I say every day, it's so expensive, right? It's
22:22
Speaker 1: very well done. And right, like the craftsmanship's gorgeous, but it's,
22:25
Speaker 1: you know, like the style of it is a casual
22:28
Speaker 1: kind of like throw it in, Let's go kind of
22:31
Speaker 1: like shopping bag, which I think is always, you know,
22:34
Speaker 1: that's why it's funny when any sort of Nouveau or
22:38
Speaker 1: rich or fake influencer type like gets one and like
22:43
Speaker 1: wears it at night or with like a fancy S
22:45
Speaker 1: dress or something, you know, and it's like, okay. They
22:49
Speaker 1: try and do the little mini Kellys or something just
22:51
Speaker 1: to like be able to do that, which at least
22:52
Speaker 1: I feel like, you know, okay, this is a lot
22:54
Speaker 1: of that kind of talk, but okay. I feel like
22:57
Speaker 1: she was like, I'll get me one. I want him
23:01
Speaker 1: to get me one so I'll just keep hanging around.
23:03
Speaker 1: And even this whole, like, it's too much, you're being mean,
23:07
Speaker 1: I sort of feel like she should at the end
23:09
Speaker 1: be like, look, if you want me to stay, because
23:12
Speaker 1: I'm going to book my ticket back. If you want
23:14
Speaker 1: me to stay, you take me in the morning. I
23:17
Speaker 1: don't care what discount you think you are going to use.
23:21
Speaker 1: I'm not paying a dime. Sell the horse. Get me
23:25
Speaker 1: the bag. If you want to see me again. If
23:30
Speaker 1: you want to ride something else once in your fucking
23:32
Speaker 1: life that isn't that motorcycle, that isn't that horse you love,
23:40
Speaker 1: you go get me a Birkin in camel grain or
23:45
Speaker 1: some sort of tan neutral with gold hardware. Or black.
23:54
Speaker 1: Not the hardware. The leather color. Still gold hardware. asshole.
24:00
Speaker 1: And then you could watch while I fuck your friend, Marco.
24:07
Speaker 1: Sit in the corner. I'm going to fuck your friend, Marco,
24:10
Speaker 1: in front of you. And then I'm going to pack
24:12
Speaker 1: my shit in that new Birkin and maybe I'll call you. Ah,
24:19
Speaker 1: my dream. That's my dream, my dream. He just keeps
24:23
Speaker 1: saying the word ridicula. Ridicula. which I guess is ridiculous, right?
24:30
Speaker 1: But it's also like, ridiculous. He's just like, she's ridiculous.
24:34
Speaker 1: It's like, you're ridiculous. That's what you are. You are ridiculous.
24:41
Speaker 1: I mean, you are. There's nothing more ridiculous. Honey, the
24:46
Speaker 1: dekiest of the dekula. Okay. So yeah, I just like,
24:53
Speaker 1: I don't know what to tell you about him. He is...
24:56
Speaker 1: People are also giving him comparisons to Mito online, that
24:59
Speaker 1: he kind of looks a little bit like Mito. You know,
25:02
Speaker 1: there is a sort of like roundness in the eye
25:05
Speaker 1: and like a droopiness down, a downward kind of droop
25:11
Speaker 1: on both sides and propensity for a certain kind of
25:17
Speaker 1: overgrowth of curly hair. And, you know, I mean, an
25:23
Speaker 1: attitude like you wouldn't believe, like they're shit was made
25:26
Speaker 1: from fucking gold. Which is why it's fun to talk
25:35
Speaker 1: about them. Because like, you know, it's funny, like when
25:39
Speaker 1: people talk about punching down, like when comedians talk about
25:43
Speaker 1: punching down or whatever, of course, it's like, right, when
25:47
Speaker 1: you can't make a joke about someone who is marginalized, oppressed,
25:51
Speaker 1: or who is, you know, of a certain sort of like, marginalized,
25:57
Speaker 1: unprotected sector, or like, you know, that does whatnot. There's
26:00
Speaker 1: a lot of things, but it is very fun to
26:05
Speaker 1: make fun of someone who thinks that they are better
26:08
Speaker 1: than other people. It's actually my favorite kind of person
26:12
Speaker 1: to make fun of some of there's no better person
26:16
Speaker 1: than the person that thinks they are better than other ones.
26:19
Speaker 1: Any of anyone, Because of, like, no one is, right?
26:22
Speaker 1: That's the weird truth that we, like, forget as humans. Like,
26:27
Speaker 1: no one is better than anyone else. No one group,
26:30
Speaker 1: no one human. I don't give a fuck about the
26:33
Speaker 1: way you look, who you are, where you came from,
26:36
Speaker 1: what religion, like, that is what religion you are. And
26:38
Speaker 1: I mean that, like, no one's chosen, right? God bless everyone. But, like,
26:48
Speaker 1: no one's above anyone. So, like, I, you know, like
26:51
Speaker 1: having said that, it's just, it's an immediate, what the
26:54
Speaker 1: fuck are you talking about? When people try and position
26:58
Speaker 1: themselves as being better than other people on like a
27:03
Speaker 1: totalitarian level. I can say that I think that I
27:07
Speaker 1: am wittier than the average human being maybe, you know,
27:14
Speaker 1: but I can also say that I am, you know,
27:17
Speaker 1: exponentially worse at like spatial knowledge than the average human being.
27:23
Speaker 1: It doesn't make me, so therefore my wittiness cancels, you know,
27:26
Speaker 1: cancels out the fact that I can't get out of
27:28
Speaker 1: an elevator and know where to go next, you know,
27:30
Speaker 1: like ever. I wouldn't survive to such a survival skill
27:34
Speaker 1: I lack. I know, like, so having said that, that's
27:38
Speaker 1: why I know I'm not better than anyone else. I
27:40
Speaker 1: have a lot of things that make me like, you know, weak, weak, weak.
27:44
Speaker 1: But there, yeah, there's certain inalienable people that feel like
27:48
Speaker 1: they are better than most people. And it's so funny
27:54
Speaker 1: to make fun of them because nothing could be further
27:57
Speaker 1: from the truth. And usually the ways in which they
28:00
Speaker 1: are so inferior are painstakingly obvious to everyone else but them.
28:07
Speaker 1: That's comedy. Anyway, but you know what? Mito was funnier.
28:15
Speaker 1: Mito is funnier than him. Because Mito was more like,
28:20
Speaker 1: I'll leave. You know, he was like the prize in this.
28:24
Speaker 1: And the funny thing is Mito thought he is and
28:27
Speaker 1: treated himself like he was the prize in the Debbie
28:30
Speaker 1: Mito relationship. And Vittorio is treating Jessie like she is
28:36
Speaker 1: the prize, mostly, except that he does this thing where
28:46
Speaker 1: when she is with his friends, their love becomes the prize.
28:51
Speaker 1: Their acceptance becomes the prize. We never got to see
28:59
Speaker 1: Mito bring Debbie around. Anyone in his life. Like, not
29:03
Speaker 1: that girl that he was showing off on Instagram that
29:06
Speaker 1: she was mad at. Not his dad that might have
29:08
Speaker 1: been dying or not. That we never got an update
29:11
Speaker 1: about whether that person died or not. That he almost
29:14
Speaker 1: didn't come because the dad was almost dying. And then
29:16
Speaker 1: never talked about any sort of health problems the entire
29:19
Speaker 1: time he was in New Orleans. You know, I'm like, okay. So...
29:22
Speaker 1: It would have been a different situation, I think, if
29:23
Speaker 1: we got to. Let's move on. Jonathan and Allie. So
29:29
Speaker 1: this is an annoying edit for me. Ready? This is
29:32
Speaker 1: hot on the heels. Jonathan and Allie had gone with
29:37
Speaker 1: Megan prawning. Pawning is a different activity. Pawning. Obviously, Megan
29:45
Speaker 1: was set up by Allie to be like, please, girl,
29:49
Speaker 1: help me help our baby. get at Jonathan for not
29:56
Speaker 1: showing up or doing the things that I need him
29:59
Speaker 1: to do or I want him to do so I
30:01
Speaker 1: am comfortable as a pregnant lady. And it surely involves
30:07
Speaker 1: having saved enough money and or having gotten a job
30:11
Speaker 1: here or having put out feelers to get a job. Now, also,
30:17
Speaker 1: he just got to Singapore. So he obviously wasn't there
30:21
Speaker 1: prior and Megan had taken Allie to doctor's appointments. Now,
30:28
Speaker 1: what we don't know is how much money is Jonathan
30:32
Speaker 1: giving Allie a month? If Allie does not have any
30:37
Speaker 1: help from her parents, so she's just a pregnant lady
30:40
Speaker 1: by herself in an apartment, yeah, how much is he
30:45
Speaker 1: giving her? If he is giving her less than the
30:51
Speaker 1: entirety of what she needs to comfortably live, then yeah,
30:56
Speaker 1: then she has every right to be like, what do
31:00
Speaker 1: I need from you? I'd be better off without you. So, but...
31:08
Speaker 1: That is the conversation that happened before in the last episode.
31:12
Speaker 1: And it transpired that Megan obviously goes at Jonathan. Jonathan
31:17
Speaker 1: gets upset. He gets up. And then afterwards, Megan talks
31:21
Speaker 1: to him. And then he like, you know, is obviously
31:26
Speaker 1: butthurt as fuck, right? And he keeps being like, well,
31:29
Speaker 1: I think it's a cop out that you don't want
31:32
Speaker 1: to hurt. And he's wearing, of course, just like black.
31:35
Speaker 1: They are black tube socks. Pulled up with, like, Vance.
31:41
Speaker 1: I mean, he really is giving Orange County late 40s
31:49
Speaker 1: dad holding on to, like, the times he rode his
31:55
Speaker 1: skateboard around Anaheim. You know, like, that is, like, it's that.
32:02
Speaker 1: It's that. And after he talked to Megan, he had...
32:09
Speaker 1: like an off-camera sort of in-the-shadows conversation with Allie where
32:13
Speaker 1: he says, I don't know if I can do it.
32:18
Speaker 1: And she's like, okay. He's like, I want to leave.
32:21
Speaker 1: And she's like, this what? This relationship, this scene? He's like, yeah,
32:26
Speaker 1: this relationship. And then we never hear her reaction to that.
32:31
Speaker 1: It picks up on her crying to Megan and saying
32:37
Speaker 1: that he said he wanted to leave her And I'm like, well,
32:42
Speaker 1: what did you say to him in that very moment?
32:43
Speaker 1: Did you scream and hit him? Did you be like, fine, bitch, bye?
32:45
Speaker 1: Did you be like, boy, bye? Was he like, I'm
32:50
Speaker 1: just kidding, I'm sorry? Like, how did you cut to
32:52
Speaker 1: just now? He then is talking to a producer and crying.
32:57
Speaker 1: It's not fair that I have to listen to this bitch.
33:03
Speaker 1: Allie can't keep her shit to herself. I'm... I mean, buddy,
33:08
Speaker 1: it's not fair that you're like pushing 50 and you
33:11
Speaker 1: like thought your midlife crisis was going to include a
33:16
Speaker 1: brand new hot woman and a brand new life with
33:19
Speaker 1: a brand new baby that you can just start anew
33:22
Speaker 1: as if you didn't make any mistakes in a former
33:24
Speaker 1: country that you're just leaving behind, like burning it all
33:28
Speaker 1: down like some, I mean, weird ass narcissist. I mean,
33:33
Speaker 1: that's really what it is. Only to like in real
33:38
Speaker 1: time be shown that he is, you know, is not,
33:46
Speaker 1: is not it, is not admired. Surely not by Ali
33:52
Speaker 1: because Ali's allowing this to happen and not by Megan
33:56
Speaker 1: and on national television. You know, because Megan, we've seen
34:04
Speaker 1: a lot of people go at people on this show.
34:05
Speaker 1: Megan was not at all accusatory or overly, yeah, like
34:15
Speaker 1: aggressive or violent in her like tactic to get him
34:20
Speaker 1: to just answer whether he prioritized getting a job yet.
34:26
Speaker 1: And there are so many, again, ways he could have
34:29
Speaker 1: dealt with the entire situation, more so than what happened. A,
34:34
Speaker 1: having applied for jobs. So he could be like, either
34:38
Speaker 1: yes or having applied for jobs. Allie had known that
34:44
Speaker 1: had happened and seen that and then had told Megan, like,
34:48
Speaker 1: back down. He did some stuff. Or not. He also, if...
34:55
Speaker 1: His true piece was, I am offended that personal intimate
35:01
Speaker 1: issues that are between me and Allie are being talked
35:06
Speaker 1: about by someone else. I get that. You would have
35:09
Speaker 1: to lead with that being the reason you're shutting down
35:16
Speaker 1: conversing with someone. Hey, Megan, I appreciate you wanting to
35:22
Speaker 1: help your friend. And whether Allie and you have discussed
35:27
Speaker 1: wanting to pry and poke at me about these things.
35:35
Speaker 1: At this time, prying and poke while prying. A lot
35:40
Speaker 1: of P's you guys wanted to do. I understand why.
35:45
Speaker 1: Because it's a, here's another word, perilous time for you,
35:49
Speaker 1: pregnant lady. It's a lot of P's. I know you
35:52
Speaker 1: have to pee a lot. Allie, I'm sorry. I'm probably
35:54
Speaker 1: making it worse for you right now. But I'm going
35:59
Speaker 1: to keep these issues private and personal. You know, just like,
36:07
Speaker 1: thank you, but no thank you. I respectfully understand where
36:11
Speaker 1: you're coming from. And I'm going to respectfully ask that
36:16
Speaker 1: you allow me to keep that my business. My work
36:21
Speaker 1: history and what I'm doing is my business. I can't
36:23
Speaker 1: talk about the jobs that I'm applying to. I don't
36:27
Speaker 1: feel comfortable doing so. Or, you know, you could say
36:30
Speaker 1: literally so many things. I have some things in the works.
36:33
Speaker 1: I can't talk about it right now. But he didn't, right?
36:36
Speaker 1: He was so defensive that he just got, I mean,
36:39
Speaker 1: really offensive. So... for some reason they decide to all
36:47
Speaker 1: like they decide to leave together like at this point
36:49
Speaker 1: Jonathan and Allie leave together which I mean I'm happy
36:52
Speaker 1: about because we get to watch them but it feels
36:55
Speaker 1: like watching like two children who have gotten in a
36:59
Speaker 1: fight like a brother and sister who now have to
37:01
Speaker 1: like make up in the car ride home with like
37:05
Speaker 1: their parents in the front seat I mean it gets
37:08
Speaker 1: the point where Allie is constantly rolling her eyes every
37:12
Speaker 1: time Jonathan says anything Like in my life, I cannot
37:17
Speaker 1: imagine as an adult having a conversation with someone where
37:20
Speaker 1: I was just like, you can't see me if you're
37:27
Speaker 1: listening to this podcast, unless you can literally hear the
37:29
Speaker 1: eyeballs just rolling in the back of my skull over
37:31
Speaker 1: and over again. But it's just, it's quite a way
37:35
Speaker 1: to deal with something. So he starts guilt tripping her
37:42
Speaker 1: in the car. He says things like, I can't believe
37:50
Speaker 1: you putting me in that position tonight was one of
37:55
Speaker 1: the most horrible bullshit deals I've ever had to deal with.
38:04
Speaker 1: You think I would let my friend sit there and
38:08
Speaker 1: And grill you like that? I mean, she's in mid
38:11
Speaker 1: eye roll right now. She can't stand his fucking face.
38:14
Speaker 1: She can't stand his glasses. She can't stand his eyes.
38:17
Speaker 1: She cannot stand him at all. Then he goes on.
38:22
Speaker 1: For someone that's supposed to love me. It's not fair, dude.
38:34
Speaker 1: There's literally serial music playing during this because the editors
38:38
Speaker 1: know that he is butt-fucking bananas. Now, she's no saint,
38:42
Speaker 1: but she's also really young and pregnant. And really young. Pregnant.
38:50
Speaker 1: No parents, no family. This asshole. Who I guess smells
38:56
Speaker 1: good for her. Dicked her down after one bar, honey.
39:00
Speaker 1: And I mean, yeah, like... This conversation is so weird
39:06
Speaker 1: because it feels like they are on two different planets.
39:10
Speaker 1: Like they have never communicated well in the entirety of
39:13
Speaker 1: their life. They have never listened and or really, really
39:18
Speaker 1: understood one word out of each other's mouths this entire time.
39:22
Speaker 1: I'm sure of it. She rolling, she's obviously rolling her
39:28
Speaker 1: eyes and she says, you know, she is here. And like,
39:35
Speaker 1: Megan is at least someone who will support her and
39:39
Speaker 1: be present, more present than he is. And he's like,
39:43
Speaker 1: what the fuck are you talking about? I'm here right now.
39:46
Speaker 1: And also, fuck Megan. accountability in your eyes because I
39:52
Speaker 1: got children at home and it's like that you're abandoning, right?
39:56
Speaker 1: The ones that you don't care about anymore? He's like,
39:59
Speaker 1: I got a father at home or like, right, the
40:01
Speaker 1: one that you're leaving? Uh-huh. I want to be like,
40:06
Speaker 1: I wonder how much that dad like has done for you.
40:09
Speaker 1: And he's like, and you act like I'm giving up nothing.
40:12
Speaker 1: She says that she is not his priority and that
40:17
Speaker 1: You would think right now, at least he would prioritize her.
40:20
Speaker 1: And he is just like, you're just too much. It's
40:24
Speaker 1: all too much. You're too much. I don't get any
40:27
Speaker 1: credit from you for my age, life experience, or wisdom.
40:39
Speaker 1: It's not fair, dude. This part was crazy. He thinks
40:45
Speaker 1: that he's not getting credit for his age, life experience,
40:51
Speaker 1: or wisdom. Okay, to me, what I'm hearing is that
40:57
Speaker 1: he doesn't feel respected, whether he thinks that because he's
41:04
Speaker 1: older than her and therefore has had more life experience
41:09
Speaker 1: and or because he's had kids that people, her or Megan,
41:15
Speaker 1: should be more affable or submissive to him because he
41:22
Speaker 1: like knows what he's doing. And I would only counter
41:29
Speaker 1: that they would not be able to disrespect you if
41:37
Speaker 1: you were treating them with respect. If you were taking
41:43
Speaker 1: care of Allie, the way that she needs to be
41:46
Speaker 1: taken care of, then she would feel happy, safe, protected.
41:52
Speaker 1: She wouldn't be telling Megan that she needs any help
41:54
Speaker 1: from her friend to come tell this old white man
41:57
Speaker 1: what to do with his life, which is what Megan did.
42:00
Speaker 1: And I guess he's saying like, why are you, you know, like,
42:04
Speaker 1: how can you do that when I'm so old? And
42:06
Speaker 1: it's like, right. How can she? That's the question. She did. Buddy,
42:12
Speaker 1: she did. Which means you're not doing it. Which means
42:17
Speaker 1: they're right. Which means these two young ass, baby ass,
42:20
Speaker 1: baby face bitches just told your dumb ass off on TV.
42:27
Speaker 1: And you had nothing to say back. Nothing. I mean,
42:31
Speaker 1: not one plan, not one solid anything. And again, like
42:37
Speaker 1: I said, you didn't even have the emotional maturity or
42:40
Speaker 1: communication skills to get you out of that predicament as
42:44
Speaker 1: like an emotionally mature person who at least could like
42:47
Speaker 1: not be reactive and be able to express themselves and
42:50
Speaker 1: be able to protect themselves from not revealing things I
42:53
Speaker 1: don't want to reveal. And also by not, you know,
42:56
Speaker 1: submitting or showcasing things I don't want to do, you know, like,
43:00
Speaker 1: but he did all that because he is in fact
43:02
Speaker 1: someone who doesn't, I don't care how old he's been.
43:06
Speaker 1: given like year-wise on earth in this lifetime, he is
43:11
Speaker 1: wildly immature. He doesn't deserve respect. He has no wisdom,
43:18
Speaker 1: or I haven't seen it. And if he does have
43:21
Speaker 1: any life experience or wisdom, and I mean this, the
43:25
Speaker 1: only person that I'm assuming that I would believe would
43:28
Speaker 1: be his ex-wife, maybe his dad, but surely his ex-wife,
43:34
Speaker 1: if his ex-wife would come on and be like, I'm
43:36
Speaker 1: going to tell you right now, guys, he was great.
43:39
Speaker 1: Jonathan is a great dad. He always helped around. He always,
43:44
Speaker 1: you know, helped, gave us everything that we could possibly
43:47
Speaker 1: need or want. He, you know, he tried his best
43:49
Speaker 1: at all times to, you know, to make his family happy, conducive.
43:53
Speaker 1: And he was like a productive working part of our family.
43:58
Speaker 1: And it just didn't work out between us or whatnot,
44:01
Speaker 1: but he is such a good guy. Whoever Whoever decides
44:03
Speaker 1: to be with him is one lucky gal because what
44:07
Speaker 1: a respectable, mature, wise man. That's what would have to
44:12
Speaker 1: happen for me to be like, you got it, John,
44:18
Speaker 1: you're right. That's not true though. I mean, I know
44:25
Speaker 1: it's not. Okay. It also sort of feels like they're,
44:31
Speaker 1: the kind of fucked up couple that's going to have
44:35
Speaker 1: some sort of surprise down the road that's going to
44:40
Speaker 1: be like a cheating scandal or internet related. I feel
44:44
Speaker 1: like she's going to get a DM from someone being like, hey,
44:48
Speaker 1: just so you know, Jonathan, da-da-da-da-da. I feel like there's
44:52
Speaker 1: going to be some sort of dirty dog behavior that's
44:54
Speaker 1: going to be illuminated. That's my prediction. So They get
45:03
Speaker 1: back to the apartment and he decides he wants to
45:07
Speaker 1: talk more. She's like so tired. She's like yawning. She, again,
45:12
Speaker 1: has literally rolled her eyes so far into her skull
45:14
Speaker 1: that she's like now about to be like in REM sleep.
45:19
Speaker 1: And he wants to talk more. And she's like, well,
45:20
Speaker 1: I don't. And I just didn't want to say anything
45:23
Speaker 1: that I might regret. He's like, do you think that
45:31
Speaker 1: I would? Maybe like overreacted tonight. Which I thought that
45:38
Speaker 1: was great. Which means that he knows that he fucked up.
45:43
Speaker 1: Do you think that you maybe overreacted? Why? Because you
45:46
Speaker 1: freaked out with these two young girls asking you basic questions?
45:50
Speaker 1: Because you feel so bad and shitty about yourself? You
45:53
Speaker 1: refuse to take accountability for what you haven't done and
45:55
Speaker 1: how you actually feel. And so you're mad about that
45:59
Speaker 1: when you get called out? That sucks. Yeah. But it's
46:08
Speaker 1: not the first time, right? It won't be the last time. Right? Jonathan.
46:15
Speaker 1: This is what you do. This is what you're used to.
46:17
Speaker 1: That's why your wife loved you. I mean, I don't
46:31
Speaker 1: know how this turns out good. I don't want it
46:36
Speaker 1: to turn out like in a situation where she just
46:38
Speaker 1: starts to rely on like GoFundMes, you know? Okay. So
46:46
Speaker 1: you guys, we've hit the end of part one. Thank
46:51
Speaker 1: you so much for being with me. And guess what?
46:54
Speaker 1: We have part two right around the bend, right around
46:59
Speaker 1: the river bend. So Thank you so much for talking
47:04
Speaker 1: about the kids with me. And listen, more is coming
47:06
Speaker 1: your way. And I love you guys so much. And
47:08
Speaker 1: if you haven't yet, give me five stars wherever you
47:11
Speaker 1: listen to podcasts. And also, I will be going live
47:14
Speaker 1: this coming Wednesday. I'm super excited about it. I'm going
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Speaker 1: to be doing a live on YouTube where it'll be
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Speaker 1: pop culture. It's Wednesday, October 28th. It'll be at 6 p.m.
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Speaker 1: Pacific Standard Time. So go to my YouTube. It's Chris Farah.
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Speaker 1: And talk any 90 day you want, plus any pop
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Speaker 1: culture stories that arise or about Halloween and stuff like that.
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Speaker 1: And we'll have a good old fashioned chat hang sesh
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Speaker 1: on my YouTube. All right. See you there. Also part
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Speaker 1: two coming right now. Bye.