Latest / The Chris and Mike Show / #158 - Troy Lee Campbell - A Life Overview
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- 0:06And we're live. And we're live.
- 0:09What's up? We're live.
- 0:11We are live. This is this is Chris and and
- 0:13that's Mike. And over there is Troy.
- 0:14I buddy Troy Campbell. We're live on twitch in the and
- 0:17YouTube. This is this is the band Troy.
- 0:24That's me singing, brother. No, it's not.
- 0:27Yes, it is. It's Mike playing guitar.
- 0:29Just wait for it. Nice.
- 0:45On stage, it says on stage right there.
- 0:47That's me. That's mine.
- 0:51OK, nice. Yeah.
- 0:58Joe. And there you have it.
- 1:02Nice. The history, according to
- 1:04Nemesis. Welcome to the show, Mr. Troy
- 1:06Campbell superhuman being so those of you joining us, we are
- 1:09now this is Chris and Mike on the Chris and Mike show.
- 1:11Join with us. It's very cool superhuman with
- 1:14an outstanding life resume Troy Campbell And if you if you
- 1:17followed us, followed us for the last like what 100 + 50 plus
- 1:22episodes and you're what 3030 countries 29 countries 29.
- 1:27You know how much we appreciate. We know how much we appreciate
- 1:30life resumes. So Troy Campbell, hello and how
- 1:34are you today? Thanks for coming on absolutely
- 1:37moment's notice. I just want to clarify for
- 1:40Chris. You know, I like to go by Troy
- 1:42Lee Campbell officially, you know my initials TLCIII.
- 1:46Forget Chris for the mistakes, but you know if this is TLC
- 1:49coming to you live this Friday morning.
- 1:52Too. Now we can say, now we can say
- 1:54we had TLC on the show that's going to give us St.
- 1:56Cred, Absolutely. That's right.
- 1:58St. Cred.
- 1:58We will not be lying on any level.
- 2:01The other cool thing about that Troy Lee Campbell sounds like a
- 2:03serial killer. It does.
- 2:07Chris, I don't know how I feel about that.
- 2:09Thanks for you know, every every time I introduce myself I have
- 2:14to include my middle name, but I don't need to be accused of a
- 2:17serial. Killer.
- 2:17No, no, no, no. I didn't see.
- 2:19Him and I have this odd fascination we do.
- 2:22Like, like, could you not last day of Thanksgiving with with,
- 2:24with June's parents were here, Skyler's husband.
- 2:28So we're all sitting at the table, right?
- 2:30Both his mom and I think his mom was there still at that point in
- 2:33time, Jake and and Sky and Nikki and me and it came up, serial
- 2:40killers came up and like we had this legit 20 minute
- 2:43conversation. If they're kind of look at me
- 2:45like, wow, really you like I was like, hey, dude, and it started
- 2:49with Ed Gein. Oh no, it started.
- 2:51I don't know how it started, but oh, it's Dahmer party.
- 2:52We were talking about a live the plane crash.
- 2:54Where people ate. Because it started with this
- 2:57feeding chicken meat to the chickens and cannibalizing the
- 3:00chickens. Because, because people think,
- 3:01oh, you're going to caramelize the chickens.
- 3:03And then and then and then June, which is Skyler's husband.
- 3:07She's like, oh, kind of like the, the, the Dom, that party
- 3:10that, you know, they're the plane crash with alive.
- 3:14Yeah, the Dahmer party. Right.
- 3:15And then and then went to the Dahmer party and that went to.
- 3:17Dahmer party, that's what. It was right.
- 3:20But then, But then we all heard Dahmer, so that opened up the
- 3:23Dahmer conversation, which went down, which went down Ted Bundy
- 3:27and then Mark Harmon. So it opened up this whole can
- 3:30of worms about serial killers and stuff.
- 3:31It was fun, you know. Happy Thanksgiving.
- 3:33Well, let's not let be that the copic of my episode, Chris.
- 3:36No, no, no. We're gonna talk.
- 3:38We're gonna so. We talk about all sorts of silly
- 3:40shit. I'm.
- 3:41Good with it, I'm good with it. So.
- 3:44So tell the world who you are and what you're all about.
- 3:47Yeah, absolutely. So my name is Troy Lee Campbell,
- 3:49You know, born and raised in Southern California, spent a lot
- 3:53of my days there, but now I've spent a majority of my days here
- 3:56in Arizona. What?
- 3:57Part of California. What Southern California in the
- 4:00Empire? OK, grew up in Beaumont.
- 4:02So it's off the 10 freeway. You just driving on the 10
- 4:04freeway. Oh, hey, there it is.
- 4:06And then you keep going. It's grown a little bit since
- 4:08then, since we grew up there, but it's been, it was fun.
- 4:12I enjoyed growing up in a small town, you know?
- 4:14All that terrible weather you had to endure?
- 4:16I know the weather was just miserable.
- 4:18Actually, it was fantastic. And then, you know, graduated
- 4:21from College in Southern California, grew up close to
- 4:23home or went school close to home, didn't went to.
- 4:26School for Troy. Government, yeah.
- 4:29So I, you know, I walked into a yeah, so I walked into my skin
- 4:35or into my advising office. I was playing football and we,
- 4:39they brought all the new freshman football players in a
- 4:41big room and like, hey, we're here to pick out your major and
- 4:44pick out your classes. So I walked in and they're like,
- 4:46So what do you want to major in? I said football.
- 4:48They said, well, that's not an option.
- 4:51So how about, you know, something that you're passionate
- 4:53about is that I don't know. I've always told my parents I
- 4:55want to be president of the United States forever.
- 4:57And they're like, oh, perfect, there you go, government next.
- 5:01And that's how I declared my major SO.
- 5:03That's crazy. I didn't.
- 5:04I didn't. I didn't know you played
- 5:05football. What did you play?
- 5:07I played defensive in my first year and I got hurt and stopped
- 5:10playing so and then it shows. Student government is my
- 5:13passion. And what college was that?
- 5:16University of Redlands small D3 school so.
- 5:19Count. Did you get a sound?
- 5:21Up a little bit, Chris. My what?
- 5:24Turn my amp up? He was talking to me.
- 5:26Turn. Your turn your volume on your
- 5:28mic up a little bit. Volume I'm all the way up is.
- 5:31My volume on my mic. OK, Mic.
- 5:33Oh yeah, dude, yeah, we're louder than him.
- 5:37Who's yours actually? But yeah, but you'd be doing it
- 5:38all. Do you still have that thing
- 5:40plugged into that cloud lifter? I do.
- 5:44That's crazy, man. Cloud Lifter Cloud lifter.
- 5:49It's a cloud. It boost your signal 25
- 5:52decibels. Oh.
- 5:54Cloud Cloud. Looks fancy.
- 5:58It's not the cloud, it's the cloud.
- 6:01All right. It does.
- 6:02I don't know, strange things, strange days.
- 6:04So did you get a scholarship or did you just like walk on and
- 6:08play football? Well, I, you know, I got a
- 6:10scholarship to play football, but when I stopped playing
- 6:14football, that academic scholarship that I received went
- 6:16somewhere out the window, so. That's weird.
- 6:19Because you know, Division Three they can't OfferUp football
- 6:23scholarship for athletic scholarship they can offer
- 6:26academic scholarships. So gotcha.
- 6:28Maybe that's changed since I went to school, but Division 3
- 6:31wasn't able to give athletic scholarships.
- 6:34OK, so you have no desire to be president anymore?
- 6:38Oh no, that's not, I'm not saying that's off the table.
- 6:40I'm just saying I want to raise my family and I want my girls
- 6:42to, you know, live in an environment where they're not
- 6:44critique for walking down the street sideways so.
- 6:47Right. And he does have two girls which
- 6:49are, which are just the fun little little peeing little
- 6:51humans. Yeah.
- 6:55How old are the Troy now? I have an 11 year old and five
- 6:58year old. You say hi to the running rag.
- 7:00You don't have. You don't have to drop their
- 7:02names if you don't want to, but you can say hi to your children.
- 7:04Hey children, good to see you. Some people worry about dropping
- 7:09names and stuff, but the cool thing what Troy does is he he,
- 7:12as long as I've known him, he he he tags his girls on social
- 7:16media, which I'm assuming then he has a page dedicated to them
- 7:20on social media. So when they get older, they can
- 7:22go back and look at all the things right?
- 7:24Is that what you're? Well, that's.
- 7:25The plan, that's the hope, you know, I want them to kind of
- 7:27relive their memories through pictures.
- 7:30Some people will get weirded out by that.
- 7:33I'll be honest. Some people have some opinions
- 7:34about that and that's. OK, No, I think that's really
- 7:37cool if that's the reason that you're doing it, so that in the
- 7:40future they'll have all these cool memories to go back and
- 7:42look at dad and you know. That's what I thought.
- 7:45They'll see their progression growing up.
- 7:47That's awesome. Yeah, I took a picture of each
- 7:49one of them every day of their life from day one.
- 7:51Well, sorry, in the first year of life, day one, day 365.
- 7:55So I have that chronicled each day from when they were born to
- 8:00their first birthday, and then after that it was weekly and
- 8:03then after that it was monthly and then now it just kind of
- 8:04screw out it. I think that's really cool, man.
- 8:07Yeah, I did that with little I I did that with little man.
- 8:10I had a countdown, a little countdown board.
- 8:12So it started 365 days till I was 1.
- 8:15And then so the whole his entire first year of life, there were
- 8:17some misses because Skylar would would go visit June, you know,
- 8:21for a week. And so I'd miss a couple days
- 8:22here. And therefore, but but for the
- 8:23most part, and then I put it all up in a video, a time lapse
- 8:26video. And it's just, you watch them
- 8:28morph, you know, it's pretty neat.
- 8:29That is really cool so. Cool.
- 8:31Yeah, I didn't do with Trip because I don't have Trip every
- 8:33day like I have Anthony, but you know, it was, it's cool.
- 8:36It's cool watching them grow especially I see everything I do
- 8:39with them is in Dropbox. So I have Dropbox folders.
- 8:42So as any like every day, they're over here to take
- 8:44pictures, upload Dropbox with the date.
- 8:46So I have I have all their lives digitally stored as well.
- 8:49So Dropbox. Will be around for a while too,
- 8:51you know that? Yeah.
- 8:52Yeah, yeah. So.
- 8:55So the fact that you played football, it probably, you know,
- 8:59is why you're such a passionate football player.
- 9:01And you must be super excited because the the Cowboys actually
- 9:03won two games in a row. Wow.
- 9:06This is unheard, Mason. They won.
- 9:08This is serious money yesterday, so thank you I truly.
- 9:11Think the reason you all invited me on the show was because the
- 9:13Cowboys actually won a game and let alone two games 2, two in a
- 9:17row against the defending Super Bowl participant and champs and
- 9:23participant and. Against my better judgment, I
- 9:25actually bet on them two games in a row and I'm very happy with
- 9:29the results. So well, Mike.
- 9:30I need you to keep doing that. That's the special sauce here,
- 9:32normally. That doesn't work for me.
- 9:35Hey, it. Works for me.
- 9:36I don't care. Keep it up please.
- 9:37I just. Had a feeling yesterday that
- 9:40after that performance against the Eagles, like they're on a
- 9:42roll man, I just, I don't see well.
- 9:44Let's let's I don't see. Him losing to Kansas City let's.
- 9:47Talk about the Eagles game real quickly, because in the fourth
- 9:50quarter there was there was a punt in the fourth quarter that
- 9:53they said hit the scoreboard and it clearly did not hit the
- 9:57scoreboard. Yeah.
- 9:58What was that all well? So yeah, I, I.
- 10:01Chosen to forget that I'm having collective amnesia here.
- 10:04I'm not sure what you're talking about, so we can go to the next
- 10:07topic, OK? So moving around let's but but
- 10:10so that changed that. See those little no, I mean,
- 10:12it's, it's legit. I mean it's and it's not just
- 10:14the Cowboys, man. There's there's stuff in the
- 10:17there's there's stuff all over the place that you can you can
- 10:20lay Daniel Jones out and he's on the ground for two minutes and
- 10:22you barely get a finger on Mahomes and you throw a flag.
- 10:25It's like it's. Unreal they.
- 10:27Really need to like get rid of all the current referees and
- 10:30bring some new ones up because there's so much, I think, and
- 10:33you may or may not agree, there's so much.
- 10:34There's some level of corruption going on with the NFL
- 10:37officiating right now. Mike notices it from gambling
- 10:40and he's not, you know, well. I think that's why they're
- 10:43pushing the gambling so much, right?
- 10:44They're trying to get what the market's doing or what the
- 10:47market's predicting. So that way they can kind of
- 10:48manipulate the market, manipulate the money going in
- 10:50and going out type thing. Which is bullshit.
- 10:54Which is absolute bullshit, right?
- 10:56Because back in the day, if you gambled on sports, what happens?
- 11:00Pete Rose get kicked out, right? And remember the ASU.
- 11:03I don't know if you remember this, there was the ASU
- 11:05basketball player that got all tied into gambling and was point
- 11:08shaving years and years. I don't come.
- 11:09To that at all I. Forget his name, you just said
- 11:12it, but I totally remember that now, yeah.
- 11:14Yeah, he got. Was that in the?
- 11:1590s. Something and he was a really
- 11:18good, He was a good prospect too, let me say.
- 11:19Yeah, he was. Supposed to be like the number
- 11:21one NBA prospect that year. Really.
- 11:24Yeah, I can't I I would have totally not been able to
- 11:27remember that on my own. But now that he brings that up,
- 11:29I I remember this story and he was an.
- 11:31ASU guy, huh? Yeah.
- 11:33Hold on. I'm pulling it up.
- 11:34I'm pulling it up. Let's see where it is.
- 11:40So how many games did you get to play before you got hurt?
- 11:43Troy while he's looking. Absolutely none.
- 11:45Zero. Really.
- 11:47My poor nephew went through the same thing.
- 11:49He never got to play live in a game.
- 11:51He got hurt before the season started.
- 11:53Unfortunately I got. Hurt and camped my knee.
- 11:55That's what happened. Well, he broke his leg in two
- 11:58places. Oh my yeah.
- 12:02So I. Can't really claim I'm a
- 12:03football player. I went to play football.
- 12:05But you know, no, you play, you just never.
- 12:07Got to play in a game unfortunately.
- 12:09Exactly, exactly. I saw a.
- 12:12Hell of a time camp. Was a lot of fun.
- 12:14Oh. I dude, I can't imagine Tory not
- 12:16having a hell of a time. Troy would have a hell of a time
- 12:19and an insurance seminar where everybody was 97 years old and
- 12:22dying. This hey, I got to keep on my
- 12:26toes. Yeah, this is the guy 25 years
- 12:28ago, 2018. Yep.
- 12:31There is, yeah. Stevie Hideki Smith turned into
- 12:36a campus bookie who who's just fixing the game.
- 12:40So that's him, that and and. Obviously I was still living in
- 12:43Arizona then. That's why I remember that it
- 12:45was all over the news. Yeah.
- 12:47Yeah, yeah. But that's the guy.
- 12:49And it was, it was legit. Like there's AI want to say
- 12:53there's a movie about him somewhere, a movie about it.
- 12:57Really. Yeah.
- 13:00Yeah, let me jump back on the way you guys are talking.
- 13:02But yeah, I I believe there's a movie about it.
- 13:04Yeah. What's it called?
- 13:07But so, so recently, right there was a guy that in the NBA that
- 13:10got suspended because they've they Chauncey Phillips or.
- 13:13Whatever it was, well, we talked about.
- 13:15Somebody recently too like in the last time about.
- 13:18Those two referees, one of them went to prison.
- 13:20Two. Yeah, 1.
- 13:21Referee. Yeah, yeah.
- 13:22One went to prison for sure. I can't.
- 13:25Remember that guy's name? But I can see his face, yeah.
- 13:27I never knew about that. That was a story that I heard
- 13:30about on Rogan, and then I researched it myself.
- 13:32I was like, are you serious? Somebody actually got busted,
- 13:35legally or illegally? It was.
- 13:38The IT was the one that was. Go ahead.
- 13:40Go ahead, Troy. Oh no, I was going to say, did
- 13:42you know that I was also high school football official for a
- 13:44little bit? No, I did not.
- 13:48Just. Recently. 2021, I think the
- 13:52season 2021, yeah, OK. So let me ask you this because I
- 13:56coached, I coached Jake and Sky right as they're coming up.
- 13:59So absolutely referees I didn't always see.
- 14:05I no, no referees and I didn't always see eye to eye.
- 14:07I was always, I was always respectful as much as I could
- 14:10be. So being a referee with with
- 14:13parents on the sideline and coaches, how did you ever have
- 14:16to deal with that nonsense? Absolutely.
- 14:19That's why I wanted to bring it up because it was hilarious.
- 14:22There was one game in particular.
- 14:23Well, two games in particular. I'm saying one game in
- 14:26particular. You know, I'm getting done with
- 14:28this game. And mind you, it was freshman
- 14:30football, so it wasn't varsity. There's no stakes in the green.
- 14:34We're finished the game and they told us in our training, as soon
- 14:37as you get done with the game, you have to leave the field.
- 14:39You don't hang around, you don't deal with hecklers.
- 14:42So I and I didn't pack my full set of keys.
- 14:44All I brought was my key, actual key, not my remote or anything.
- 14:48So usually I have my remote when I can't find my car, I push, you
- 14:51know, beep, beep, beep, beep. There's my car.
- 14:53Exactly. So I just brought my key and I
- 14:55was running around the parking lot looking for it and I heard
- 14:57this guy from the stands go hey, Rath can't find your car.
- 15:01Like you couldn't find your flag.
- 15:03They've been holding us all. Game.
- 15:07And I said what he's like, you can't find the car, you can't
- 15:10find your flag. And he was letting me have it,
- 15:13man. He was ripping in to me about
- 15:14how I couldn't find my car because he couldn't find my
- 15:16flag. They were holding his son all
- 15:18game. And he was just making sure that
- 15:19I knew that was your. Did you just start getting
- 15:23anxious? Did you start like your heart
- 15:24racing? Like, oh boy, no.
- 15:26OK, that's good. Did you ever have any?
- 15:27The one. Time I get anxious, hostile with
- 15:30you. Yeah.
- 15:31So there's one time in particular.
- 15:32This was my my mistake. I totally screwed this up.
- 15:35It was on a kickoff and they always told us be careful of
- 15:38inadvertent whistles, like whistles that you don't, that
- 15:40you shouldn't blow. So anyways, they kick it off and
- 15:43I'm on the receiving team. I'm on the receiving team's
- 15:46side, and he picks it up and then drops it and then fumbles
- 15:51it on the ground. And so I blow my whistle.
- 15:52Like, what the hell. Like not thinking the play
- 15:54wasn't dead. He picks it up and he keeps
- 15:57going like he's running the other teams just stops, like
- 16:00looks around and because I blew my whistle, so they stopped
- 16:02playing and then he took off. He ran into the house.
- 16:05One coach was pissed at me because he ran into the house.
- 16:07One of that touchdown better team was like, hey, my parents
- 16:10heard the whistle, they stopped, they played the whistle and the
- 16:13coaches were both at me. Just what'd you do that for?
- 16:15What'd you do that? And I was like so.
- 16:19I think I kind of know, Troy, but for those at home, what do
- 16:23you do in a situation like that? Because maybe I don't know.
- 16:26So in that situation, I just worked with the coaches and I
- 16:28said, can we all agree that we just need to recap like that was
- 16:31my mistake. I owed my mistake a do over.
- 16:34Let's see how this goes. And the kid ended up getting a
- 16:37decent run back like he probably got to the 3540.
- 16:40I think at that point post coaches were still upset because
- 16:43one one of their touchdown and one one of the ball back there.
- 16:46But I think they got over it as the game went on.
- 16:49But I was I was a mess the rest of the game.
- 16:51I had to get my head. I was rattled.
- 16:52So. So why did you blow the whistle?
- 16:55It was a mistake. It was, he wasn't.
- 16:56It was a mental just blank. Like I saw the ball on the
- 16:59ground. I was like, oh, game plays over.
- 17:01Not like an incomplete pass in my head.
- 17:03I think that's what I was thinking.
- 17:04He was thinking. When he fumble it again that
- 17:06that play was over. But really, that's still a live
- 17:09ball. He just and he knew it right
- 17:10after he blew the whistle. Oh yeah, shit, right.
- 17:14Oh, yeah, my white hat as they described the white hat's the
- 17:17official, you know, the, the head official and the, the guy
- 17:19on the field, he came over to me and he's like, listen, Troy, if
- 17:23we ever have to do that again, you're going to be taking those,
- 17:26those, those stripes off your back.
- 17:27And I was like, oh, this is serious.
- 17:30And then afterwards he said he got his, he let his emotions get
- 17:32the best of him because he was in the heat of the moment and he
- 17:35shouldn't have said that. That was very rude.
- 17:37You're. Not going to even be coaching
- 17:38pee wee football within 60 miles I hear my friend.
- 17:42My friend, you're going to be going out into the football
- 17:44hound. Yeah, so that was a rough game.
- 17:47That was a rough mistake. And they told us in training,
- 17:49like you have to be aware of your whistle and it's in your
- 17:52mouth. So like when you're breathing,
- 17:54you have to be careful, like all the things you know.
- 17:56And then pandemic, we have little button whistle little.
- 17:59Really. Whistle maker because they
- 18:01didn't want us putting the whistle in the outside of our
- 18:02mouth. So we have a little whistle.
- 18:05But, you know, personal, it's not ridiculous things.
- 18:08You don't just. You just.
- 18:10Didn't go to the football field and have a box of whistles and
- 18:12say, oh, I'm going to put this one in my mouth.
- 18:14No, I actually gave it to each player to blow first, make sure
- 18:17this works and then put in my mouth.
- 18:18That's why I want to see if we try to.
- 18:20That's stupid. Like a whistle.
- 18:22Like a foghorn. That would be better.
- 18:26A foghorn. Little personal foghorns instead
- 18:28of whistles. And that's what they use in.
- 18:30Basketball games. That's crazy though.
- 18:33Yeah. Is that that whistle is made by
- 18:35the same company that actually makes whistles.
- 18:36That was their. That was their We also have
- 18:40masks on. Yeah, we had.
- 18:42Masks on, that's. Couldn't blow the whistles to
- 18:44the masks, but really, why don't you?
- 18:47Just have to cut a cut a hole in the mask and put the whistle
- 18:49through the hole. That's what I'm not as smart as.
- 18:52Chris Donovan. So again, I want to talk about
- 18:58this too, because this was epic. So.
- 19:00So Troy's a Cowboys fan and I'm a Giants fan, and we've known
- 19:02that since probably since the first or second time we met each
- 19:04other. Yeah.
- 19:05I almost fired him to be my realtor once I found out he was
- 19:07Giants fan. Actually right it was.
- 19:10He was just such a good guy, such a lovable guy.
- 19:11I couldn't, I couldn't help it. My wife, everybody.
- 19:14Has their fault, Troy. Everybody has their.
- 19:16Fault, I know. Well, it's like Nikki says, you
- 19:18either love or hate me. There's no in between.
- 19:20So but but we love. You, buddy, we love you.
- 19:23We love you. But we do.
- 19:25I forget what I forget when it was, but tell the tell the
- 19:28Beckham story. Yeah, so the the Pro Bowl came
- 19:32to Arizona. When did the Pro Bowl come to
- 19:35Arizona? I can look it up to you.
- 19:39So Pro Bowl came to Arizona before the Super Bowl.
- 19:47Let's see 22,000. No, not 2515, 2015.
- 19:53There we go. So the Pro Bowl came to Arizona
- 19:56and we were living in Arizona or in Flagstaff up at the time and
- 20:00had a buddy that worked for some agency that was working with the
- 20:03Pro Bowl or something. I'm not really sure how his
- 20:05connection was, but he's like, hey, you wanna go down the hill
- 20:07and go to a Pro Bowl game? And I was like.
- 20:09Well, how much are these tickets?
- 20:10Like I got to get approval with my wife.
- 20:12He's like, no man, I got free tickets and I was like, that's
- 20:15ridiculous. OK, So we drove down the hill to
- 20:17a Pro Bowl game, went to the stadium, showed up and you know,
- 20:20the the Pro bowlers were on the field warming up, doing their
- 20:23thing. And Odell Beckham junior, you
- 20:26know, the ones in miracle catch back in the day that just
- 20:28celebrated their 10 year anniversary thing or 12 year
- 20:31anniversary against the Cowboys. He's running off the field and
- 20:34everyone's like, hey. Hold.
- 20:36Out and he just throws his his practice glove up in the stands
- 20:39and I'm like, I got it. Yeah, there it is.
- 20:42That that effing catch right there.
- 20:44Awesome. No, it's not awesome.
- 20:47I hate it. So he threw.
- 20:51His glove up in the stands and I grabbed it and I was like, oh
- 20:54Dang. And I had guys up at the stadium
- 20:56coming up to me. Hey, I'll give you 50 bucks for
- 20:58that. I'll give you 100 bucks for
- 20:59that. I'll give you 200 bucks for
- 21:00that. And I wish I would have done
- 21:02that, to be honest. But I think it went to a better
- 21:04cause. I think it went to Chris and
- 21:05Jake. Yeah.
- 21:07And I was to it forever because I didn't, I didn't like the
- 21:12Giants, but I didn't want to sell it.
- 21:13I was like, I'm going to find a Giants fan that I like.
- 21:15And then one day I was just, you know, looking at it and I was
- 21:18like, I like Chris, but do I like Chris that much?
- 21:21No, I like Jake that much. I like Jake that much.
- 21:24So I called Chris and said, hey, I think Jake might want this
- 21:26glove. So, you know, Jake's an overall
- 21:28badass serving in the military. So yes, I I had to give it up.
- 21:33Yeah, Yeah, he still has it. And I think it's still worthy.
- 21:35Cost frequent guest on the. Chris and Mike show too.
- 21:38OK, perfect. I didn't.
- 21:39Know to share his business around.
- 21:43Yeah, yeah. And I got that that that's a
- 21:45that was it was 2020 year anniversary.
- 21:47I think of that was it. 20th anniversary.
- 21:50I thought he just celebrated something, but it was 10 years
- 21:53ago that caught the glove, so that's crazy.
- 21:54Yeah, yeah. He.
- 21:56Just got he just got he just got reinstated too.
- 22:00I don't know why he was uninstated, but he just got
- 22:02reinstated to the NFL. I'm not sure why I don't.
- 22:05Know how you get? Yeah, unless he had PEDs or
- 22:08something, I don't know. But so, yeah.
- 22:11So that was awesome because you know, that's one of those things
- 22:13that when he did, I was like, really like you've really given
- 22:15me his glove because, you know, I knew what a die hard Cowboys
- 22:20fan he was, you know, So you guys being Cowboys fan, what are
- 22:25you? What's your record now?
- 22:27Is it 5:00 and 5:00 and? 65 and 6.
- 22:30Five and 165 and one, yeah, I really don't like that little
- 22:33one on the end. It really bothers me.
- 22:35No, but that's. The one thing that makes
- 22:36football? Stupid.
- 22:38The fact that any game can end in a tie.
- 22:40Tie well. What do that Mike yeah 1 and the
- 22:44Chiefs are now what are they 56565 and. 5:00 and 6:00 Well,
- 22:48here's why I'm. Stupid because in college
- 22:51football you can't end in a tie, right?
- 22:54You just. I think you can in high school.
- 22:56It's weird I think high school can, college can't, and the bro
- 22:59pros can. Don't quote me on the high
- 23:01school, but I know for sure you cannot in college because the
- 23:04University of Illinois a few years back had like 18 overtime
- 23:09periods but you remember that. I don't remember who they were.
- 23:13Playing might have been Northwestern, but yeah, they had
- 23:1718 overtime period, so that can't end in a tie.
- 23:20No, that's. Insane.
- 23:22I just don't like that. I do.
- 23:23I do. Like now I but I do like now how
- 23:26how like if the Cowboys and Giants are playing OK and then
- 23:29it goes overtime, so then the Cowboys go down the field and
- 23:32score a touchdown, then the Giants are allowed to try to go
- 23:34down the field and score a touchdown where they made.
- 23:37Yeah, I thought it was the first touchdown wins.
- 23:40No, it used to be the. Update.
- 23:42They they. This, this year, this year, I
- 23:44think it was the first year with that, right?
- 23:46Well, it was last year. For sure.
- 23:47Was it last year? Yeah, so.
- 23:48There's no sudden death, so both teams have the opportunity to
- 23:51match each other's scores. So if the if the Cowboys went
- 23:54down and scored a touchdown, the Giants went down and scored a
- 23:56touchdown, then I believe it's the next score.
- 23:57Wins or defensive turnover. Got it.
- 24:01Right. Right.
- 24:02So yeah, it's yeah, it's interesting.
- 24:04Because my philosophy on why there's no.
- 24:07There's a lot to be a tie in. NF LS because of the money, they
- 24:10don't want to miss out on the next games money even though
- 24:13they should just like stop televising it instead of drool
- 24:15out. But they don't want to lose that
- 24:16money, you know? You know, I never thought about
- 24:18that. I think you might be on to
- 24:20something there for sure. Yeah, well, and.
- 24:22Mike, you said something earlier this year that that there was a
- 24:27weekend with like two or three ties or something or two ties or
- 24:30something in the NFL. And if you had bet on those, if
- 24:33you bet on the probability of ties, that the money line was
- 24:36crazy, Yeah, it would. Astronomical money, Yeah,
- 24:40because the. Odds of that?
- 24:41Yeah, the odds of that, like Jake had a friend who bet $10 on
- 24:46on, I forget what game he said, but if he would have won, it
- 24:49would have won like $34,000 because it was that much of an
- 24:51underdog thing. And then and they didn't, it was
- 24:54like the last, I mean, it was only 10 bucks.
- 24:55Like I'm playing. I started fandueling.
- 24:58I don't know what, I don't know what, maybe a month ago.
- 25:00So I've been playing on that one.
- 25:02Yeah. So I've been playing on that one
- 25:03money. I haven't even touched my
- 25:05original 100 bucks yet because you win your first spend on fan
- 25:08bull, you get this $300 bonus, but you can't cash out.
- 25:12You have to use it. You have to, you have to use
- 25:14that money to bet. But it's still it's, but it's
- 25:16free money, right? So and when you win, when you
- 25:19win with the free money, you get that money.
- 25:22You just don't get the $10.00. So, so if a $10 bet got me a $25
- 25:26win, I wouldn't get $35.00 because they don't recoup that
- 25:2910. I get 25 back.
- 25:30So you know, last night I'm not my.
- 25:35My nephew's all in about parlays and ready and I just can't get
- 25:38into it. I'm not good at the parlay.
- 25:40Part of it, but I am good at just making single spread bets
- 25:46and like Chris has been doing a lot of prop bets.
- 25:49I do, I do a lot of those two where somebody's going to throw
- 25:53for more than 250 yards, right? Yeah, interesting.
- 25:57I like making those single bets like that.
- 25:59One of my claims to fame, Troy, is since 2016, I have never lost
- 26:04a dollar of my own money gambling on sports.
- 26:07I actually refinished the whole I built the studio here, did all
- 26:12the floors on 1/2 of my house. That's all from sports betting.
- 26:15Seriously. Yeah, See.
- 26:17That's incredible. All you got to do is go on
- 26:20sports. Center man, and they give you
- 26:21little tips. And then like on the MLB
- 26:25Network, there's this girl named Ariel Epstein.
- 26:28She does like these pitcher props.
- 26:30She's like 70% accurate. So if you just know what she
- 26:33says every day, what's her name? Ariel Epstein.
- 26:36So when baseball season comes around, make sure you watch her.
- 26:40She calls it the Diamond K Play of the Day.
- 26:44So I record it. On my YouTube TV, right?
- 26:47And then I just Fast forward to that section, figure out what
- 26:50she's going to bet for the day, stick it in my bet slip.
- 26:52And last year she was 70% accurate.
- 26:55The prop. Queen.
- 26:57There you go. The prop.
- 26:58That's what the problem. Queen.
- 26:59OK, yeah, I just found her. That's cool.
- 27:02Interesting. And she is the prop.
- 27:06Queen Yeah, I'll share it. I'll share it for the viewers
- 27:08that when I get into gambling, we don't condone gambling boys
- 27:10and girls. OK, no, but if you're over. 18
- 27:14and you got some extra income. There you go.
- 27:17There you go. So there is Ariel God and she's.
- 27:22Cute on top of it. I've never heard anything.
- 27:27No. No.
- 27:29So yeah, all kinds of stuff. There she is.
- 27:31The prop queen. Interesting.
- 27:34Yeah. Kind of like that movie with Al
- 27:36Pacino and Matthew McConaughey too, for the money, right?
- 27:38But she's just a chick. OK, yeah, I can't promise.
- 27:42That I would listen to anyone else on my betting, but that's
- 27:45just me. I don't know.
- 27:46I I like my money too much. I don't want to give it away to
- 27:48no where does it. Go when?
- 27:50Where? Does it go when you lose?
- 27:51Like that's my question. It goes to your betting.
- 27:53Kings to the mob. Oh.
- 27:55OK, Yeah, it. Goes to.
- 27:57I don't have a college. Kid, it literally goes to two
- 28:00college kids who had a dream that they could play fantasy
- 28:03sports with their friends after college who were going going to
- 28:07spread out to different parts of the country.
- 28:08Right. Right.
- 28:10They never intended for it to be a gambling app.
- 28:13They wanted to be able to play fantasy sports.
- 28:15What? Yeah.
- 28:16There's a documentary. I wish I'd could remember where
- 28:19it's at, but it was fascinating because these guys became
- 28:22inadvertent billionaires. Is it draft?
- 28:24Drones, though, Yeah. They developed DraftKings.
- 28:27Yeah, True story. Wow.
- 28:29And then? Right.
- 28:30After they developed DraftKings, but online sports betting became
- 28:35started becoming legal state by state and you know, light bulb
- 28:38went off over the top of their head.
- 28:39Yeah. Hey, here's.
- 28:41A money making idea yeah that's true story I just.
- 28:46Found just you don't need to look it up Troy, because I just
- 28:49found it on the Chris and Mike show.
- 28:50We're sharing the screen right now.
- 28:51This the DraftKings story found in Boston 2012.
- 28:54Our three founders set out to create the best in class daily
- 28:57fantasy sports product focusing on customer service excellence.
- 29:01Some years later, we now boast a suite of products that millions
- 29:04of customers engage with every day.
- 29:07Wow. But it all started.
- 29:09With their wanting to keep in touch with their friends and be
- 29:12able to play fantasy sports online.
- 29:15Same concept. As Zuckerberg with Facebook, you
- 29:18know, yeah, he wanted a way to be able to communicate over the
- 29:23Internet with his buddies. Yeah, exactly.
- 29:26Well. Zuckerberg also kind of stole
- 29:29the idea well. Chris, that is.
- 29:32Up for that is up for discussion.
- 29:34I'm not sure. Well, no, I don't have.
- 29:35AI don't have AI don't have a problem with him doing what he
- 29:37did because hey, it's it's you know, it's think about it for
- 29:41saying. Allegedly, Troy, so we don't get
- 29:43sued. Oh yeah, my bad.
- 29:45But but think about it like like anything in the world.
- 29:50Why is the screen not going back to normal?
- 29:51I stopped sharing there. You go it's, I mean, I mean
- 29:58think. About it though, you you, I
- 29:59mean, like Jeff Bezos isn't the first person that thought about
- 30:01online shopping, right? He was just the one that
- 30:03executed, right Elon Musk wasn't the first one probably thought
- 30:08about PayPal. He was the one that executed it,
- 30:10right? Yeah.
- 30:11But somebody's got to be there. Got.
- 30:13You true? Oh yeah.
- 30:15Right, right. Somebody's got to be there to
- 30:16execute the idea. Yeah.
- 30:18Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's no.
- 30:20Different than what we're doing here.
- 30:21I had. So what's our idea?
- 30:22I. Was afraid to do it by myself.
- 30:24Right. So you help me bring it to
- 30:25fruition. I I can't say that I did this by
- 30:28myself because I didn't. No, no.
- 30:30You. I don't, I don't think any.
- 30:31Of those people are claiming to, That's what pisses me off about
- 30:34like them saying Led Zeppelin ripped off Stairway to Heaven.
- 30:38If you listen to the original, yeah.
- 30:41Go, go look. Up this debate because OK, OK.
- 30:45Interesting the the original. Is very close, but close only
- 30:50counts in horseshoes and hand grenades, right?
- 30:53And darts and darts so and pull. And pull.
- 30:59Yeah, OK. Stop you.
- 31:02Guys are you guys are killing me?
- 31:08And almost burning. And almost drowning And archery.
- 31:13You know, Archer and I could go on for days.
- 31:15Troy. See, this is my love story.
- 31:17That's our next. That's our next topic.
- 31:20He's got my. Crazy brain that you just.
- 31:22He assured me I was going. To love you.
- 31:24And he was right. Yeah.
- 31:26OK, good. Good.
- 31:29Yeah, so here it is, the iconic band, rock band we're accused of
- 31:33stealing the songs, opening a riff from a song called Taurus
- 31:36by US psych rocker Spirit, recorded three years before
- 31:40release of the album Led Zeppelin 4, which came the rock
- 31:42behemoth. Behemoth, behemoth, behemoth.
- 31:47Oh, so is this. The is this oh, here's the
- 31:48here's the controversy. Let's see what happens here is
- 31:50this am I sharing this? OK it.
- 31:53Is close. Where's the Where's the volume?
- 31:57There it is. Oh, whoa, whoa.
- 31:59That's loud. Oh, come on.
- 32:08Oh, stop. OK, I know that's so.
- 32:10Frustrating your fuck ton. Is a standard unit of
- 32:13measurement for amount. Hey, that's us.
- 32:15Your. Fuck ton is that?
- 32:1625 shit loads. A shit load is equal to 25 ass
- 32:20loads, and an ass load is equal to 20 to 50 something else.
- 32:24So I don't think you have it now.
- 32:26Why we're on TON? Why are we talking?
- 32:28How much is an ass ton? You may ask?
- 32:30Well, ass ton is 1000 units of ass.
- 32:34Weights vary from. Cheek to cheek, so a proper
- 32:36conversion similarly cannot be made.
- 32:39A shit ton is more easily converted as it refers to
- 32:41exactly 1 imperial ton of shit. One shit ton is exactly .0907185
- 32:47metric. Why is this top?
- 32:48Right here? Probably not. 1st but we're all
- 32:51about engaging and educating so we hope you engaged you into the
- 32:54shit ton fuck ton ass ton. Oh my goodness, that's so funny.
- 33:00Most listen to real across any social media platform, really.
- 33:04It's funny. It's funny that.
- 33:05That just popped up like randomly dude, and it's been.
- 33:08Shared here it's been saved 11 times.
- 33:10Thank you for whoever got that much of A kill we we got.
- 33:13On some weird topic dude where where I forget how it even came
- 33:16up but then I just looked it up and then we said something.
- 33:19Like, that's a, that's a fuck ton.
- 33:22And I said that's a technical term.
- 33:24And I kept talking and unbeknownst to me, Troy, there
- 33:27he is in the background like always on the Google.
- 33:31And he's like. Actually it's in the Websters
- 33:33dictionary. I'm like, you got shit man.
- 33:35Yeah. No, it's right here.
- 33:36Yeah. Yeah.
- 33:39I got you. All right, we got.
- 33:40To wrap this up, because she's got a life and he's got to go do
- 33:43things. So you got to come.
- 33:44You got to. Come back when you got more time
- 33:46brother. No, I agree.
- 33:47And I want to come back and you know we'll get this going.
- 33:50I appreciate you guys bringing me on today, but we'll get
- 33:54coming on our. Our guest, we had a a snafu and
- 33:58scheduling faux pas, so thank you for making time for us and
- 34:02definitely come back. Man, this was a blast.
- 34:03Yeah, I don't like. It.
- 34:05Once don't. Don't leave yet because once we
- 34:07sign up, we're going to make sure you're uploaded.
- 34:08So as as per usual, this is a Christian Mike show.
- 34:11If you're feeling sad, depressed, suicidal, don't do
- 34:14it. Go journal, go run, go scream in
- 34:16a pillow, go workout, go find somebody to talk to.
- 34:18If you can't find somebody to talk to, text 988.
- 34:21They are standing by to help talk you off that Cliff.
- 34:23Help change your mindset. You don't want to be that person
- 34:25that leaves a hole in somebody's heart because you don't wake up
- 34:27tomorrow because after all, tomorrow is better because
- 34:29you're in it. So for Chris, Mike had a really
- 34:32cool superhuman, Troy Campbell. We just touched on how cool he
- 34:35is. We'll bring him back in the new
- 34:37year and we'll have an even more dynamic conversation because
- 34:40truly, trust me, you're going to love this guy.
- 34:42We'll see you next time. Love you, Mike, love you, troll.
- 34:44Love you to your brother. Thanks.
- 34:47Thank you, TLC. TLCTLC I'm not chasing
- 34:51waterfalls. We're clear we don't want to fly
- 34:57and deserve