Latest / Get Into Gate: A Stargate Podcast / Episode 316: Water (SG-U 1.06)
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- 0:11Speaker 1: Yet int the Gate episode three hundred and sixteen. We
- 0:15Speaker 1: are talking Stargate Universe, full team here, Mitch, Maddie and
- 0:21Speaker 1: Brandon Mate going on, guys back to talk some more
- 0:24Speaker 1: SGU episode number six of season one, the beginning of
- 0:30Speaker 1: I mean, are we going to get all four or
- 0:31Speaker 1: all five of the Captain planet powers because we've got.
- 0:34Speaker 2: Water on the earth. Well know, because the last two
- 0:36Speaker 2: episodes were fire W six seven and I guess since
- 0:45Speaker 2: the opening trio was air, that's kind of our linker there.
- 0:48Speaker 2: That's true. But don't worry about I looked after you.
- 0:52Speaker 1: Oh thank you. I can just go to that whenever
- 0:54Speaker 1: I want. Thank you very much. So if you are
- 0:57Speaker 1: new to the show, we are breaking down each episode
- 1:00Speaker 1: of SGU, just like we've done for the last three
- 1:02Speaker 1: hundred and sixteen episodes. Talk and SG one and SG A.
- 1:05Speaker 1: I am new to SGU the first time, it's me.
- 1:10Speaker 2: You're new to this, I'm the new guy SG you
- 1:15Speaker 2: moving on. We are talking.
- 1:20Speaker 1: Despite severe rushing and around the clock security, the water
- 1:23Speaker 1: reserves on board the Destiny continue to drop. Doctor Nicholas
- 1:27Speaker 1: Rush has no explanation for this latest setback, but if
- 1:30Speaker 1: they are to survive, they must find a new water
- 1:33Speaker 1: source soon.
- 1:36Speaker 2: God dear better get that water. You'll notice episodes Darkness
- 1:42Speaker 2: and Light. Episodes four and five Darkness in the Light
- 1:44Speaker 2: written purely by Brad Fine. Great, not quite fire. But
- 1:48Speaker 2: you know this episode first credit back after the after
- 1:53Speaker 2: the original three episodes to feature one Robert C. Cooper.
- 1:57Speaker 2: So what do we have in this episode?
- 1:58Speaker 1: A little sprinkling of Yes, just have an idea.
- 2:06Speaker 2: Bugs that are water or they are water or they
- 2:09Speaker 2: eat water. Yeah, they in water a lot. Yeah, don't
- 2:13Speaker 2: they consume some water for their size? Yeah? Forty thous
- 2:18Speaker 2: Yeah in a week if anything.
- 2:20Speaker 1: Like I know, we've spent you know, fifteen years of
- 2:23Speaker 1: or fifteen seasons of Stargate consuming a new alien species
- 2:28Speaker 1: almost every week to get this only six episodes in.
- 2:32Speaker 1: But it's like, oh, yeah, this feels different, like we're
- 2:34Speaker 1: actually focusing on like a different not even focusing, but
- 2:37Speaker 1: it is there a different species, Like me is the
- 2:38Speaker 1: first time. I'm just on along for this ride, and
- 2:41Speaker 1: like the idea that hey, we're running out of water,
- 2:43Speaker 1: and I'm like, that does actually seem like enough just
- 2:46Speaker 1: to justify an entire episode because you're out there. Everything
- 2:50Speaker 1: that can go wrong is going wrong very slowly, and
- 2:53Speaker 1: the idea that you've got water, you're running out. Yep, good,
- 2:56Speaker 1: this is this seems like dramatic enough for the next forty.
- 2:58Speaker 1: We don't need some other alien race there. But if
- 3:00Speaker 1: it's got to do with it, I'm like, oh that
- 3:02Speaker 1: it feels a little bit more star gatey by by
- 3:05Speaker 1: including some other species.
- 3:06Speaker 2: But then you've also got it. Is it? Is it?
- 3:08Speaker 1: Or is it not the same as the ones from
- 3:11Speaker 1: the desert planet you know and what you know forming
- 3:15Speaker 1: faces and it's got that sort of thing with Scott's
- 3:18Speaker 1: and me again watching it for the first time. I've
- 3:20Speaker 1: only seen these episodes once. I'm trying to like remember
- 3:23Speaker 1: everything that I've learned so far, and do I miss
- 3:25Speaker 1: something else that would have indicated Yeah, yeah.
- 3:27Speaker 2: No, I think they've had. At one point they just said, oh, yeah,
- 3:29Speaker 2: they must have come through the stargate. Yeah, because Robert
- 3:32Speaker 2: Cooper's back, He's like, well, those bugs didn't get enough
- 3:35Speaker 2: of a you know, a feature in airpart three, so
- 3:38Speaker 2: let's go about.
- 3:39Speaker 3: So they did remind me of certain aliens that we'd
- 3:42Speaker 3: already seen before in SG one. I think they when
- 3:46Speaker 3: when the face formed in front of TJ. It reminded
- 3:48Speaker 3: me a little bit of Cold Lazarus when the Crystal
- 3:53Speaker 3: people kind of showed their face Takata see.
- 3:56Speaker 2: To me, it reminded me of Crystal Skull. Yeah, Crystal Skull,
- 4:01Speaker 2: that's the one. Yeah.
- 4:03Speaker 3: The enemy of my enemy is my friend. And what else?
- 4:06Speaker 3: Did it remind me of bloody Prodigy?
- 4:08Speaker 2: You know?
- 4:09Speaker 3: Light bugs, light bugs there in Atlanta something. Yeah, we
- 4:12Speaker 3: need a triple we need triple aliens.
- 4:14Speaker 2: Yeah, although at least it made sense at that point
- 4:16Speaker 2: for them to be shooting zat's at them. And then
- 4:19Speaker 2: also they set up in Prodigy that it's like, oh
- 4:22Speaker 2: the or they did it in Scourge as well, at
- 4:24Speaker 2: the concussive blast of firing like the p nineties and
- 4:26Speaker 2: stuff shooes the bugs away. Where is that idiot in
- 4:30Speaker 2: this one? Just in the middle of the corridor, just
- 4:32Speaker 2: sees a swarm of bugs and in the US military style,
- 4:35Speaker 2: just starts shooting at it. Yeah, at a swarm of bug.
- 4:38Speaker 2: First one missed Ultry eight or nine. I'll try and
- 4:41Speaker 2: empty the clip into this swarm of bugs. That'll do it.
- 4:44Speaker 3: And I kind of do agree with who who said that,
- 4:46Speaker 3: Oh you're not going to tell them?
- 4:47Speaker 2: Was it?
- 4:48Speaker 3: Rush or Elise, you're not going to tell them that
- 4:51Speaker 3: we got aliens on board?
- 4:52Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that was Eli saying it to TJ when
- 4:54Speaker 2: you did, like the announcement, saying everybody.
- 4:56Speaker 3: And he was kind of right because if she had said, hey,
- 4:58Speaker 3: we've got an alien life form, do not engage that,
- 5:01Speaker 3: I wouldn't be dead. And then he died at the end,
- 5:04Speaker 3: and Young's like TJ did all she could. I'm like,
- 5:07Speaker 3: she didn't do actually anything. Fact, she was in the
- 5:10Speaker 3: gate room the whole episode.
- 5:12Speaker 2: I don't know. I didn't mind. She had one good bit.
- 5:14Speaker 2: Did you see what they did to Gorman's face? Yeah,
- 5:16Speaker 2: I'm the one treating him so much, and it's exactly
- 5:18Speaker 2: what they did to his face. So she saw it.
- 5:21Speaker 2: She saw what they did to his face. Did you
- 5:23Speaker 2: see what Young did to my face? What that was TJ?
- 5:30Speaker 2: I didn't realize you would be He didn't put your
- 5:32Speaker 2: TJ voice on, so I thought that was you. I
- 5:35Speaker 2: thought you talked about you Brandan And what Young did.
- 5:38Speaker 1: It was weird watching it getting the previously on and
- 5:40Speaker 1: it's him to his wife, Young talking to his wife
- 5:45Speaker 1: and oh my god, I just love just want to
- 5:46Speaker 1: be back. This is this is my only focus is
- 5:48Speaker 1: to get back to you, and I just I need
- 5:49Speaker 1: to know that you're going to be here waiting for
- 5:51Speaker 1: me when I do. And then the actual episode starts
- 5:54Speaker 1: and it's the dream Secrets of him telling TJM your beautif,
- 6:00Speaker 1: like just get over get over eure because again first time,
- 6:05Speaker 1: and I'm like, you're watching this guy, Okay, what is what?
- 6:07Speaker 2: What has happened in their history? What's going on?
- 6:10Speaker 1: Is it as simple as being tied to why his
- 6:12Speaker 1: wife is upset with him? Or is it more to
- 6:14Speaker 1: do with the job. And then that just happens to
- 6:16Speaker 1: be a complication that only he knows about what's going on,
- 6:19Speaker 1: And yeah, then I'm moved on from that real quick.
- 6:22Speaker 2: You know. It's kind of like in the.
- 6:23Speaker 1: In the space of the first couple of episodes, watching
- 6:26Speaker 1: watching Scott have his little, you know, broom closet situation with.
- 6:32Speaker 2: James, Lieutenant canns sure tit's McGee, Yeah, yeah, that was
- 6:36Speaker 2: my first thought. I'm like, I won't say it. And
- 6:39Speaker 2: then you know, within like, you know, I don't know
- 6:41Speaker 2: about well, who am I pretending? What am I pretending for?
- 6:47Speaker 1: You know, trying to pretend I'm more civil than that
- 6:50Speaker 1: so he's hen Tits McGee in the broom, which not
- 6:56Speaker 1: Tits McGee, so different. That was a different And then yeah,
- 7:01Speaker 1: you're like he moves on really quickly, and it's just like, Okay,
- 7:03Speaker 1: I've got a lot to lot to catch up with me.
- 7:05Speaker 1: Now it's a it's a dream sequence. The mystery perhaps
- 7:08Speaker 1: continues on.
- 7:09Speaker 3: My favorite part of this episode was when Scott and
- 7:13Speaker 3: Chloe got busted.
- 7:16Speaker 2: Tennis. Scott, come in, please, Scott, there are reasons your
- 7:26Speaker 2: radio's off. Oh ship, come in. Colonel Young is looking
- 7:34Speaker 2: for you. Wait, you couldn't find a broom closet. Well,
- 7:41Speaker 2: I see what's going on here. I am smack damn
- 7:45Speaker 2: in the middle of a good old fashioned fight, mister Peterman.
- 7:53Speaker 1: That's what I actually appreciated James looking back and just
- 7:56Speaker 1: sort of smiling at it, like my beefs with him,
- 7:59Speaker 1: like you went to know or whatever. It's like, this is,
- 8:00Speaker 1: this is between me and him. He's the asshole. Like
- 8:03Speaker 1: you know, I might reserve a little judgment for you,
- 8:05Speaker 1: but you don't know. You don't need to know about
- 8:07Speaker 1: that yet.
- 8:07Speaker 2: Yeah, and give them it's a majority male writer's room.
- 8:09Speaker 2: I think it's yet, it's good that it suddenly just
- 8:11Speaker 2: pit the women against each other when Scott's the one
- 8:14Speaker 2: that's around. I liked that she was like, the last
- 8:19Speaker 2: time Scott didn't answer his radio was when he was
- 8:23Speaker 2: banging me in that broom closet. Oh, so she knew,
- 8:25Speaker 2: so I know what is up? Yeah, isn't he? She
- 8:29Speaker 2: could instead instead of feeling the tingle her nipples, just
- 8:34Speaker 2: my nip sensors are up. Yeah, She's like, I know,
- 8:36Speaker 2: some sums off here, sums off here. Yeah, damn. And
- 8:40Speaker 2: the fact that she was like, well, you know, I
- 8:42Speaker 2: would have loved for Scott to have just been like, well, no,
- 8:44Speaker 2: I saved the broom closet for you because you're special. Yeah.
- 8:47Speaker 2: It socks on.
- 8:48Speaker 1: Yeah, but very as Mr heavy kissing like it was.
- 8:51Speaker 1: It was, it was very passionate. It's one of those
- 8:53Speaker 1: ones where I think about the actors because it was
- 8:55Speaker 1: like how the camera was so close. Yeah, and they
- 8:58Speaker 1: had to do it for like what a nine seconds before,
- 9:01Speaker 1: so they're.
- 9:01Speaker 2: Probably you accounting, were you okay?
- 9:03Speaker 1: It just seems like a lot of that out Yeah,
- 9:05Speaker 1: up to it seemed like a long time, and you
- 9:07Speaker 1: think they're going to be doing it before they find
- 9:09Speaker 1: their edit point. You know, even if it's only a
- 9:11Speaker 1: second or two, they're going to be doing it okay action,
- 9:14Speaker 1: you know, rolling on, hold, hold hold, How many takes
- 9:18Speaker 1: do they have to do for that for that time.
- 9:20Speaker 1: I'm just like that would have been a very very
- 9:22Speaker 1: intimate little scene to because there was you know.
- 9:25Speaker 2: I mean they've already they've already done sex scenes.
- 9:27Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know, I feel like that there's a
- 9:29Speaker 1: lot of cutaways which's just like them in a single shot,
- 9:31Speaker 1: just like looking and you know, there's a couple of
- 9:34Speaker 1: you know, there's a couple of full body things, but otherwise,
- 9:36Speaker 1: I mean, this was I don't know.
- 9:40Speaker 2: I mentioned in our air chat. I was saying, how
- 9:43Speaker 2: I knowing that Brian J. Smith is a queer man now,
- 9:48Speaker 2: like he came out sort of after the show. I'm
- 9:50Speaker 2: not sure how where he was in his personal life
- 9:52Speaker 2: with that, but I did actually look up in the
- 9:55Speaker 2: meantime that it was like this came out in two
- 9:56Speaker 2: thousand and the end of two thousand and nine. It
- 9:58Speaker 2: was September two thousand an eleven that the US military
- 10:01Speaker 2: repealed Donuts Don't Tell. So that's a probably why they
- 10:06Speaker 2: never had that kind of storyline in Stargate because the
- 10:10Speaker 2: Stargate production wanted to stay on good terms with the
- 10:12Speaker 2: US military, and so I think analyzing that whole Donuts
- 10:15Speaker 2: don't Tell thing probably would have put them on the
- 10:18Speaker 2: ounce with with the Air Force. But I think it
- 10:21Speaker 2: would have been a much cooler story to tell had
- 10:24Speaker 2: imagined if you know, what Scott was doing was actually
- 10:27Speaker 2: sneaking around with a dude and then was getting caught
- 10:30Speaker 2: James and stuff like that.
- 10:31Speaker 3: I like your idea is that he's just deeply, deeply closeted. Yeah,
- 10:35Speaker 3: that that could be it. So he's overcompensating. Like wait,
- 10:40Speaker 3: wait till next week, Mitch, when he starts hitting on Mignahles.
- 10:42Speaker 2: You know what I mean, He's just going to work
- 10:44Speaker 2: his way through. He's all right, straight women are too easy.
- 10:47Speaker 2: I'm going to hit on the lesbian so I can
- 10:48Speaker 2: get out of that. She's a lesbian, Mitch.
- 10:55Speaker 1: She has a lover several times last week, Sharon, Sharon Paren.
- 11:01Speaker 2: I do think it was weird though that if you
- 11:03Speaker 2: think about it, Young's wife we find in this her
- 11:08Speaker 2: name is Emily, and Young's first name is Everett, So
- 11:11Speaker 2: you have Everett at Emily, and I'm like, I don't
- 11:14Speaker 2: know how I feel about that, Like, when you're creating characters,
- 11:16Speaker 2: why would you give them both the first same initial.
- 11:19Speaker 1: Yeah, it's fine, it happens in real life, but yeah,
- 11:21Speaker 1: you're just trying to avoid that.
- 11:22Speaker 2: Yeah, fair enough. Yeah, I actually get his name is Everett. Yeah,
- 11:27Speaker 2: same Like every now and then when someone says Matt
- 11:29Speaker 2: in the show, I'm like, oh, that's right, that's Scott's
- 11:31Speaker 2: first name. Like, there's just so many. It's bad enough
- 11:34Speaker 2: that you and I have the same initial, and then
- 11:36Speaker 2: Brennan and I have the same last name, So I like,
- 11:41Speaker 2: I'm not sure if I like that.
- 11:43Speaker 3: They have to go to a desert planet, then an
- 11:45Speaker 3: ice planet, and then this planet, and.
- 11:48Speaker 2: Then the Sun the week before. Yeah, there's your fire planet.
- 11:50Speaker 3: Yeah it felt like it was like, all right, well
- 11:54Speaker 3: it seemed predictable. But what I like most about this
- 11:58Speaker 3: episode they get some more water. They ended up getting
- 12:02Speaker 3: those bugs off the desert planet and onto the ice planet.
- 12:07Speaker 3: So I'm thinking those bugs took all the water off
- 12:12Speaker 3: that desert planet. That's why it's a desert planet. Now
- 12:15Speaker 3: they're on the ice planet, they're going to be chomping
- 12:18Speaker 3: at the bit terraforming the ship absolutely terrift. Think about that,
- 12:21Speaker 3: So I wonder if that's what they do. Yeah, they
- 12:24Speaker 3: just devour all the H two.
- 12:26Speaker 2: I hadn't thought about that in terms of that's why
- 12:29Speaker 2: the desert planet was the desert planet because yeah, they
- 12:30Speaker 2: do say and it was it used to be in
- 12:32Speaker 2: ocean or whatever. Yeah, because that's what they had to
- 12:34Speaker 2: find the lime. Yeah. Wow, mind blown. Yeah, So I
- 12:38Speaker 2: liked that part. It was intentional or not. Yeah, I'm like, oh, yeah,
- 12:41Speaker 2: those bugs are going to I guess they've got a
- 12:43Speaker 2: good time this planet. They're gonna work for it too,
- 12:45Speaker 2: hopefully they like well, I guess whether you want the
- 12:47Speaker 2: bugs to live or not. It's like can they survive
- 12:48Speaker 2: the cold one? Yeah? And then too, they're gonna have
- 12:52Speaker 2: to work hard to turn that ice into water. So
- 12:54Speaker 2: looking forward to it. Yeah, come back and see what
- 12:57Speaker 2: they got to that. That'll be Rob sie Cooper's pitch
- 13:00Speaker 2: the reboot. So we never actually revisited the ice planet
- 13:05Speaker 2: with the bugs. I'd like to touch base and just
- 13:07Speaker 2: see where they are a terraforming bugs there water terraforming
- 13:10Speaker 2: bugs did they do?
- 13:12Speaker 1: They do things in the in the right order at
- 13:14Speaker 1: the end, like they had it in the in the
- 13:16Speaker 1: in the bucket with the lid, they sort of contained
- 13:19Speaker 1: the bugs, and then they've opened the gate and rushed that, Hey,
- 13:24Speaker 1: we're right here, and like just you hang on, you wait,
- 13:27Speaker 1: because we're going to throw these bugs through first, just
- 13:30Speaker 1: like be really still, Like wouldn't for me? I guess
- 13:34Speaker 1: that the gate was already open, but I would rather
- 13:37Speaker 1: like have our people come through before then we throw
- 13:41Speaker 1: the bugs out where they're possibly going to attack. Like
- 13:44Speaker 1: they said, don't go near them, don't agitate them, don't
- 13:46Speaker 1: even move because they might rip you to shreds like
- 13:48Speaker 1: they did.
- 13:48Speaker 2: Old mate here bleeding out. If it wasn't Scott lying there,
- 13:52Speaker 2: because they kind of seemed to recognize him, Yeah, from
- 13:55Speaker 2: the two other people, would they have been killed as well? Yeah? Yeah, yeah,
- 13:58Speaker 2: it's time for death. That le Daniel Hi, I'm Daniel Jackson.
- 14:06Speaker 4: The Ancients were once a race of humans known as Alterans.
- 14:10Speaker 4: They left their galaxy to avoid a war with.
- 14:11Speaker 2: Another race of humans called the Ari.
- 14:14Speaker 4: They flew to the Milky Way millions of years ago
- 14:16Speaker 4: and first landed on the planet Da Kara. From there,
- 14:20Speaker 4: they made their way to Earth, which they would call
- 14:22Speaker 4: home for some time. The Ancients are the inventors of
- 14:26Speaker 4: the stargates and much of the advanced technology that was
- 14:29Speaker 4: later usurped and used by the Guahoul to enforce their rule.
- 14:34Speaker 2: Prior to that, the ancients.
- 14:35Speaker 4: Left for Pegasus, and then ultimately some of them returned
- 14:38Speaker 4: to the Milky Way, where it is believed they used
- 14:40Speaker 4: their knowledge to restart human life as we know it
- 14:43Speaker 4: on Earth. At some point, they evolved both physically and
- 14:46Speaker 4: mentally to the point where they no longer required their
- 14:49Speaker 4: human bodies, which brings me to my next topic.
- 14:53Speaker 2: I don't see, Dan, that's a great crash. Course. Yeah
- 14:59Speaker 2: it is, isn't it.
- 15:00Speaker 3: I Mean it's not in the show, but I just
- 15:02Speaker 3: found that from from the clips that they show in
- 15:04Speaker 3: the pilot. Yea, and yeah, kind of you never really
- 15:08Speaker 3: hear it spoken about, like the timeline, like yeah, because
- 15:11Speaker 3: we find.
- 15:11Speaker 2: Out it all in different pieces and all out of
- 15:13Speaker 2: order and stuff like that.
- 15:15Speaker 3: And then because the ancients in the ore we I
- 15:18Speaker 3: think we spoke about that the stones pre date the
- 15:21Speaker 3: gate system as well, so that's kind of their original
- 15:24Speaker 3: transport long distance transport.
- 15:27Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's cool. Can I just throw in an
- 15:30Speaker 2: impromptu mail bag just because that reminded.
- 15:33Speaker 3: Me it's spontaneous.
- 15:40Speaker 2: From from Sahiti B on Instagram says, Hi, dudes, I
- 15:43Speaker 2: don't know if you guys do your hairry mail bag anymore.
- 15:47Speaker 2: If you, if you are mate, it's gonna have a
- 15:49Speaker 2: great time pronouncing my name. I nailed at Sahiti. I'm
- 15:53Speaker 2: I know you did. Never. I'm slowly catching on on
- 15:57Speaker 2: the podcast. I started in January on a plane listening
- 15:59Speaker 2: to some of my favorite episodes Brackets not Emancipation, and
- 16:04Speaker 2: have decided to start from season one. I am on
- 16:07Speaker 2: season six, Hate Jonas, and I just want to say
- 16:10Speaker 2: how much I love you guys. I want to catch
- 16:11Speaker 2: up before Universe, but I think that's relatively impossible. But yeah,
- 16:15Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not even an adult, but I've been
- 16:17Speaker 2: watching SG one for most every single year I've been
- 16:20Speaker 2: on this earth. I'm glad I could find a podcast
- 16:23Speaker 2: like Get into Gate that recirrocates my love for the show. Yeah,
- 16:31Speaker 2: might be reciprocates my love for the show. PS. I
- 16:34Speaker 2: know Reese leaves at some point, and I'm scared pps
- 16:36Speaker 2: Daniel is hot. That that was it was a long
- 16:39Speaker 2: way to go, but it's just Daniel is hot. Shanxy
- 16:45Speaker 2: God shout out to Shankxy shout out to SHANKSY. I
- 16:50Speaker 2: thought it was interesting. Rush says at one point he
- 16:54Speaker 2: kind of insinuates that because they say, even after going
- 16:58Speaker 2: through the Sun there at fourty percent like of their
- 17:01Speaker 2: power power capacity, and Rush sort of stipula, you know,
- 17:06Speaker 2: posits that because of Destiny's age, it's not capable of
- 17:12Speaker 2: dialing Earth, which I thought was quite interesting. Like even
- 17:16Speaker 2: then he's basically sort of trying to temper everyone's expectations
- 17:19Speaker 2: as say, look, even if we get this ship at
- 17:20Speaker 2: one hundred percent power, we'll still not be able to
- 17:23Speaker 2: still may not actually be able to dial Earth and
- 17:26Speaker 2: it doesn't have.
- 17:26Speaker 1: A zpm zz pm other you say, because of the age,
- 17:29Speaker 1: it wasn't able to get to one hundred percent like
- 17:32Speaker 1: an iPhone.
- 17:33Speaker 2: Yeah, it's two years old, sorry, says some years ass.
- 17:37Speaker 2: I'm give it to fined, But does yours.
- 17:38Speaker 1: Give you that like optim you know, it says, hey,
- 17:41Speaker 1: it says we're you're at one hundred percent, but it's
- 17:43Speaker 1: it's only eighty two percent of like what it's probably probably.
- 17:47Speaker 2: It doesn't be the option where it says yeah for
- 17:48Speaker 2: battery optimization, it can it can max out it eighty
- 17:51Speaker 2: five percent.
- 17:53Speaker 1: Like mind, it'll just tell me, like even if I'm
- 17:55Speaker 1: at a hundred, it's like, yeah, but it's only eighty
- 17:57Speaker 1: two percent of what it was when you bought it. Oh,
- 18:00Speaker 1: the batteries weakened over time.
- 18:01Speaker 2: Mine doesn't do that well, it does, It just doesn't
- 18:03Speaker 2: tell you.
- 18:05Speaker 1: The good people at Apple, if they want to sponsor
- 18:06Speaker 1: the show, will.
- 18:08Speaker 2: Tell me when I take it up. It'll tell me
- 18:09Speaker 2: how many hours of charge I've got in This charge
- 18:11Speaker 2: is gonna last you? Twelve hours? Hours I keep things dangerous?
- 18:16Speaker 2: Depends on how years it goes. Is it just me?
- 18:19Speaker 2: Or did Eli make his room in the Keino room?
- 18:23Speaker 2: Is that where he's sleeping now in the in the
- 18:25Speaker 2: Keno room. That's a little bit weird. It's weird. It's weird.
- 18:30Speaker 2: There's actual places with beds and bedding, and he's just
- 18:33Speaker 2: gone and locked himself in.
- 18:34Speaker 3: A little Yeah, because then he can spy on all
- 18:36Speaker 3: the chicks. That's what he does.
- 18:38Speaker 2: Mate sus Creek Young knows. I think I think Eli
- 18:43Speaker 2: might be my shepherd of universe in that this watch through.
- 18:46Speaker 2: I don't think I like Eli. No, I don't think
- 18:49Speaker 2: I ever liked it. I don't know. He just he's
- 18:54Speaker 2: so annoying. I just don't know if he's if the
- 18:57Speaker 2: character's aged. Well, I'm not, I'm not sure. I just
- 19:01Speaker 2: originally it was fine. He was just you know, yeah,
- 19:04Speaker 2: there was I think because I didn't really you know,
- 19:07Speaker 2: click with universe a lot. Yeah, they were all just
- 19:09Speaker 2: except for Mick and I went because she's m Nah went,
- 19:12Speaker 2: that's Chunley and Mulan like god damn. But everyone was
- 19:15Speaker 2: just like, yeah, they're all fine. Like, no one's my favorite,
- 19:17Speaker 2: No one's my least favorite, except for maybe Grea because
- 19:20Speaker 2: the actor is so good at playing him as a
- 19:22Speaker 2: as a weirdo.
- 19:23Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm just like, which actually I liked in this episode. Yeah,
- 19:28Speaker 3: oh interesting because because like Eli brings out the sledd
- 19:32Speaker 3: or whatever and then he's like he gets his flamethrower.
- 19:35Speaker 2: Yeah, how did you get that I can invent things?
- 19:40Speaker 2: I wasn't. I wasn't a fan of At the end though,
- 19:42Speaker 2: when he and TJ having that moment and and she's
- 19:47Speaker 2: like I want you out of out of sight and
- 19:49Speaker 2: he's like what, don't you trust me? And she played
- 19:52Speaker 2: it real seriously, she was like no, and to me
- 19:54Speaker 2: it felt like she was saying I don't trust you
- 19:55Speaker 2: at all, which I feel like kind of goes against
- 19:58Speaker 2: that scene. I really liked episodes ago where it was TJ,
- 20:02Speaker 2: Grier and Scott in the in the shuttle and they
- 20:05Speaker 2: all have there. I kind of wish maybe it had
- 20:08Speaker 2: lent a little more into like the reason TJ doesn't
- 20:11Speaker 2: trust him in this moment is because of the flame thrower,
- 20:14Speaker 2: like because she told him not to take it and
- 20:16Speaker 2: he did. Like I felt that too. All it could
- 20:18Speaker 2: have been just a look for her, even if if
- 20:21Speaker 2: she'd played it a little less dramatic and just like
- 20:24Speaker 2: if he said, what don't you trust me? And then
- 20:26Speaker 2: she looked at the flamethrower, looked up him and went no.
- 20:30Speaker 1: Yeah, that's how I took it anyway. But then I
- 20:33Speaker 1: respected the character then going okay, like that's it wasn't
- 20:38Speaker 1: even like a well I do in her being a bit,
- 20:40Speaker 1: I'm sure in her leadership is like okay, cool, because
- 20:42Speaker 1: he will just do what he's going.
- 20:44Speaker 3: To feel like everyone else on that ship would argue.
- 20:48Speaker 3: But he was like, yeah, I think that. Honestly, I
- 20:51Speaker 3: think it shocked him because he's like, oh, okay, I
- 20:53Speaker 3: thought we were tight. Yeah, well that's probably I'll stand
- 20:56Speaker 3: to attention to be like, that's something I have to remedy.
- 20:58Speaker 2: That's on me, and he took responsibility. He sort of
- 21:01Speaker 2: went from that friendship that they have too. Then he
- 21:03Speaker 2: went into full sergeant mode, stood a detention, yes ma'am,
- 21:07Speaker 2: and followed orders and backed off.
- 21:09Speaker 1: And yet when he was going through searching and they
- 21:13Speaker 1: were following I think the bugs at that point, and
- 21:15Speaker 1: he gets radioed and he's like his answer to her
- 21:17Speaker 1: like asking for him, was I'm just a little bit
- 21:20Speaker 1: busy right now. It wasn't even like, hey, yes, ma'am,
- 21:22Speaker 1: you know this is I'll just just give me one second.
- 21:25Speaker 1: It was no, got for a sec because we've got
- 21:27Speaker 1: these things in our sights. And then also earlier when
- 21:30Speaker 1: they pulled aside, oh baldy and accuse him of stealing
- 21:34Speaker 1: the water whatever, when young comes back and assumes command
- 21:38Speaker 1: and he's like, all right, hey, next time you pull
- 21:39Speaker 1: some shit like that again, and I will personally deal
- 21:42Speaker 1: with you. And do you understand that He's like, as
- 21:45Speaker 1: you like it, even say yes sir, and then wait
- 21:47Speaker 1: for his dismissal that yeah, as he walks past, yes sir, and.
- 21:51Speaker 2: Then great is tending goes I don't think that he does.
- 21:55Speaker 1: Yeah, boy, you sleep with both eyes open.
- 22:00Speaker 2: Love. It was one minonway of just being like, remember
- 22:03Speaker 2: what I did to Telford before the show started. Just
- 22:05Speaker 2: say the word and I'll do that to him for sure. Yeah. Yeah.
- 22:09Speaker 3: I feel like he just wants to take orders from
- 22:11Speaker 3: people he respects.
- 22:12Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I feel like I feel like anyone
- 22:15Speaker 2: who's been in the military. I think that's the thing.
- 22:16Speaker 2: It's respecting the rank versus respecting the person and dad
- 22:20Speaker 2: those don't always Yeah.
- 22:22Speaker 3: Definitely, yeah, definitely. Even if you're not in the military,
- 22:25Speaker 3: you got a ship boss, you're like, oh god, yeah,
- 22:28Speaker 3: all right, I'll eat shit for today.
- 22:30Speaker 2: You're a asshole.
- 22:31Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't respect you, and the first chance I get,
- 22:35Speaker 3: I'm not backing you up.
- 22:36Speaker 2: Yeah. I did like Scott's little moment though. I thought
- 22:41Speaker 2: this was a good moment between him and young How
- 22:43Speaker 2: about you lawer the guy down and I shoot myself
- 22:45Speaker 2: free And that's good thinking. There's no way the bullets
- 22:47Speaker 2: ricochet in your ass.
- 22:49Speaker 1: They could come away out with the plasma cone.
- 22:51Speaker 4: You get one hole in that suit, your dead.
- 22:53Speaker 2: Maybe there's a way for me to get down there.
- 22:56Speaker 2: That's just a stupid.
- 22:57Speaker 1: That's just a stupid sir.
- 23:01Speaker 3: Yeah, So I like all of that, and then they
- 23:03Speaker 3: kind of backtrack with some lines and character development. Yeah,
- 23:07Speaker 3: it's just like, scratch my head. I'm like, just get
- 23:10Speaker 3: them to work together as a group. I know that
- 23:12Speaker 3: they're like a motley crew and they're not the right
- 23:14Speaker 3: people so to speak. They say it all the time,
- 23:17Speaker 3: but it's like, let's get that development a little bit better,
- 23:21Speaker 3: get those characters warmed up to each other bit more.
- 23:23Speaker 2: Yeah, it makes me wonder if, like, because obviously this
- 23:26Speaker 2: is episode what's six and like I was saying with
- 23:28Speaker 2: what it felt weird with the with the TJ and
- 23:31Speaker 2: Grier moment. Makes me wonder if maybe, like woal Brad
- 23:34Speaker 2: was off writing episodes four and five, then like Cooper
- 23:38Speaker 2: and Carl Blinder and Martin Geren, so we're off writing
- 23:41Speaker 2: you know, six and seven, and maybe they just weren't
- 23:44Speaker 2: communicating back and forth and where each character was and
- 23:47Speaker 2: maybe they were all just sort of writing and then
- 23:49Speaker 2: you know, certain things haven't haven't lined up sort of
- 23:52Speaker 2: character beat wise. Yeah, but you would think given that
- 23:55Speaker 2: it's so early in the show, you think they would
- 23:57Speaker 2: have had maybe you know, five or six episode banked
- 23:59Speaker 2: up before they started production already.
- 24:01Speaker 3: Considering they've literally done kind of if you split SG
- 24:04Speaker 3: one into Stargate Command, that's like four shows they've kind
- 24:08Speaker 3: of iteped off. So there should be doing good character development, communication.
- 24:13Speaker 2: Working with each other and going okay, this is where
- 24:15Speaker 2: they're at it this episode. Yeah, so yeah, that's that's
- 24:18Speaker 2: my only kind of Yeah, it's geary, but point.
- 24:21Speaker 3: It's not easy, especially when you're doing such a heavy
- 24:25Speaker 3: character development, character based show to the others.
- 24:29Speaker 2: And this is a very different show to what you
- 24:32Speaker 2: know they've done in the past, where this is it's
- 24:34Speaker 2: much less, you know, episode of the week. This is
- 24:37Speaker 2: all sort of over hangover, hang on. I even noticed
- 24:39Speaker 2: in this episode. This is the first episode of Universe
- 24:42Speaker 2: directed by Will Waring, who's a pretty probably in the
- 24:44Speaker 2: probably top five most used directors in Stargate, But I
- 24:49Speaker 2: noticed in this the shaky cam, the the Battlestar Galactica
- 24:53Speaker 2: shooting style was really off putting for me. In this episode,
- 24:57Speaker 2: there's certain moments where I just went, oh, oh, a
- 25:00Speaker 2: headache watching.
- 25:01Speaker 1: His Yeah, I found I can't remember which one because
- 25:03Speaker 1: I've watched next weeks as well, and I found myself
- 25:08Speaker 1: thinking about that during that I didn't actual even pick
- 25:10Speaker 1: up that it was Well Wearing. But next week's director,
- 25:14Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, that seems like a new name, and
- 25:16Speaker 1: just for that maybe it's obviously they're not just there
- 25:19Speaker 1: to get you know, steady cam shops, you know, and
- 25:22Speaker 1: shaky cam shots or anything. But like, how do you
- 25:25Speaker 1: go from filming the way that someone like William Wearing
- 25:28Speaker 1: has has done for years on Stargate to then go okay, well,
- 25:31Speaker 1: now we want a completely different aesthetic for a director,
- 25:34Speaker 1: even a season TV director. Isn't just as easy to
- 25:37Speaker 1: pick up a different camera and shoot a little bit
- 25:39Speaker 1: of a different style even though you're in the same universe,
- 25:41Speaker 1: but it's a slightly different arm of the franchise, Like,
- 25:44Speaker 1: does it make more sense to get directors who haven't
- 25:47Speaker 1: been a part of it and go cool, here's our sandbox,
- 25:50Speaker 1: play with it as you will sort of.
- 25:51Speaker 2: Thing He did say in the audio commentary, because he
- 25:53Speaker 2: joined in with Chloe and Scott and and Eli in
- 25:56Speaker 2: the commentary for this one, and he did say this
- 26:00Speaker 2: is the most fun he's ever had directing the episode,
- 26:02Speaker 2: because he said, basically, the way he was sort of
- 26:04Speaker 2: told to do it is The premise for this is
- 26:09Speaker 2: the camera crew is essentially it's almost like they're a
- 26:11Speaker 2: documentary crew and they're just filming what's actually happening. So
- 26:15Speaker 2: they're very much more setting up multiple cameras and then
- 26:18Speaker 2: just the cast will play it out almost like it's
- 26:22Speaker 2: a play. And then they said, it's it's interesting because
- 26:25Speaker 2: there's no coverage, so it's like an actor is in
- 26:28Speaker 2: the scene the entire time because they don't know if
- 26:31Speaker 2: they're actually going to be that part is going to
- 26:32Speaker 2: be filmed, Like, so, is it multicam? Yeah, yeah, it's
- 26:36Speaker 2: a multiicam setup. So yeah, like they said, yeah, certain, Actually,
- 26:39Speaker 2: just they don't know if they're in the shot or not,
- 26:41Speaker 2: so they just have to be in the scene the
- 26:43Speaker 2: whole time.
- 26:44Speaker 1: I didn't think about this while watching, but I'm just thinking, now,
- 26:47Speaker 1: this is almost a better setup than what SG one. Okay,
- 26:50Speaker 1: the set would have been great, but I'm thinking of
- 26:53Speaker 1: a single shot episode or even or even four, you know,
- 26:56Speaker 1: between ad breaks, you know, four different single shots throughout
- 26:59Speaker 1: the episode to follow around, because it's weird every time
- 27:02Speaker 1: we get a shot of outside the ship and like
- 27:04Speaker 1: the ship is so big, but they seem to run
- 27:07Speaker 1: between all the rooms that they use pretty quickly. It's like, yeah,
- 27:10Speaker 1: everything's kind of just in this little neat little pocket's
- 27:12Speaker 1: kind of like Atlanta's right, Like the city is massive,
- 27:15Speaker 1: but like we just use this tind of hilarias, you know,
- 27:18Speaker 1: so I just I reckon getting around this set with
- 27:20Speaker 1: these characters, like considering they do use that sort of
- 27:23Speaker 1: documentary type style and have the shaky cam to be
- 27:26Speaker 1: going through and following certain characters from ruined room in
- 27:29Speaker 1: a in a single sho I mean, I just get
- 27:31Speaker 1: a rock hard over a single shot, you know, TV
- 27:34Speaker 1: shows and movies and stuff.
- 27:35Speaker 3: And it is a massive, massive set, Like they put
- 27:38Speaker 3: a lot into it. It's like steel girders and it's
- 27:42Speaker 3: really in depth. There's a featurette that I'll try and
- 27:45Speaker 3: find for a future episode. But yeah, it's pretty impressive.
- 27:48Speaker 3: And it's such a shame that they only got the
- 27:50Speaker 3: two seasons because it's such a good set and they
- 27:53Speaker 3: just had to dismantle.
- 27:54Speaker 2: They could they could just expand it every season. They've
- 27:57Speaker 2: got a bit more budget. They could have. Oh okay,
- 27:58Speaker 2: now we're going to create this room. Now we're going
- 27:59Speaker 2: to create this room. As as the show explores the ship,
- 28:03Speaker 2: you can slowly make the set sort of bigger and
- 28:04Speaker 2: bigger if need be. Yeah, that was a bit of
- 28:06Speaker 2: a shame because you sent Mitch a clip the other
- 28:10Speaker 2: day of the new Scrubs TV show came out recently
- 28:14Speaker 2: and in the nineties and or sorry, in the two thousands.
- 28:17Speaker 2: I guess they shot that in a real abandoned hospital
- 28:21Speaker 2: that was torn down in like twenty eleven or something
- 28:24Speaker 2: like that, so they've recreated it millimeter perfect basically in
- 28:28Speaker 2: a warehouse in Vancouver, no way. Yeah, And there's like
- 28:32Speaker 2: Architects digest or where they take him on a tour
- 28:34Speaker 2: around the set and they should sort of show you
- 28:37Speaker 2: and compare between the original set from a real hospital
- 28:40Speaker 2: in La to this set in Vancouver, and it looks
- 28:43Speaker 2: incredibly incredible, don't you?
- 28:45Speaker 3: Reckon Greer should have gone to the Ice planet instead
- 28:48Speaker 3: of Young. I feel like Young still on the mend.
- 28:51Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 28:52Speaker 3: And also he's in command and then he leaves TJ
- 28:55Speaker 3: in charge, which which is the medic.
- 28:58Speaker 2: Was there a was there a reason behind that? Because
- 29:00Speaker 2: like there was that moment where oh no, I guess
- 29:03Speaker 2: they played off as a joke where Scott was like, oh,
- 29:05Speaker 2: you've done this before, have you and Young was like,
- 29:07Speaker 2: oh yeah all the time. So yeah, I.
- 29:09Speaker 3: Wonder it didn't make much sense, especially because Grier is
- 29:12Speaker 3: a lot stronger than Young, especially if he's injured.
- 29:14Speaker 2: The spacesuits, though, did anyone recognize those?
- 29:17Speaker 1: I didn't, Now that you're saying that, I'm like, should
- 29:19Speaker 1: I because I really liked them? And then there was
- 29:21Speaker 1: a shot when they got back and Rush is not
- 29:24Speaker 1: Rush keeps saying Rush Young standing there, and I'm like,
- 29:28Speaker 1: just seeing someone in a physical suit, like, yeah, I
- 29:31Speaker 1: just always love because now, I mean it's more of
- 29:33Speaker 1: a movie thing, but when they're in you know, an
- 29:35Speaker 1: Iron Man suits, like yeah, it's all CG like Robert
- 29:37Speaker 1: and you just sitting there in a suit with dots.
- 29:39Speaker 2: So just I don't know, I like the look of it.
- 29:41Speaker 2: But what if you like seeing, you know, a person
- 29:46Speaker 2: in that suit with just their head out. Could you
- 29:49Speaker 2: maybe imagine say, Rodney McKay and Daniel Jackson's head on
- 29:52Speaker 2: top of those Yeah okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, the
- 29:55Speaker 2: same one. Yeah. Reuse of the Asgard Vanier suits Sweet
- 29:59Speaker 2: from from the last season of Vtalantis. Yeah, they're really cool. Yeah,
- 30:02Speaker 2: they just did a different helmet for them Sweet, which
- 30:04Speaker 2: I think in universe is a nice kind of little
- 30:07Speaker 2: in universe in the Stargate universe is a nice little
- 30:13Speaker 2: I guess easter egg or tidbit away because if you go, okay, well,
- 30:16Speaker 2: the Veneer wre the Asgard. The as Guard were in
- 30:20Speaker 2: the Four Great Races with the Ancients, and then the
- 30:24Speaker 2: Ancients are using a very similar looking piece of technology
- 30:27Speaker 2: to what the veneera. Yes, I mean hundreds or millions
- 30:29Speaker 2: of hundreds of thousands or millions of years later or whatever,
- 30:31Speaker 2: but very cool, still the same design.
- 30:34Speaker 3: Yeah, and they've incorporated that to fit the as Guard
- 30:38Speaker 3: or because the as Guard can kind of they fit
- 30:40Speaker 3: in that suit, but then you can fit in it,
- 30:42Speaker 3: so yeah, be able.
- 30:44Speaker 2: To Yeah, it fits around. It's like it's like Tony
- 30:46Speaker 2: Stark's Infinity Gorune at the way it can just be
- 30:48Speaker 2: fit the whole core. It can fit him and just
- 30:49Speaker 2: kind of.
- 30:50Speaker 3: It's funny because I was watching up to season eight
- 30:53Speaker 3: in the rewatch with Jack and the Evolution one and two.
- 30:57Speaker 3: That's when O'Neill when Thor grabs her new or from
- 31:00Speaker 3: Antarctica and then they make that the Replicator weapon. Oh yeah,
- 31:04Speaker 3: they were kind of telling thought O'Neill stuck his head
- 31:07Speaker 3: in the ancient positoric head sucker and got all the
- 31:13Speaker 3: ancients knowledge. And then Thor says something which I can't
- 31:16Speaker 3: remember if we covered because it was back in the
- 31:18Speaker 3: zoom days.
- 31:19Speaker 2: Thor says, yeah, we also.
- 31:21Speaker 3: Found one of them, and we barely we've barely scratched
- 31:24Speaker 3: the surface.
- 31:25Speaker 2: He's inside that. So I kind of just had a.
- 31:28Speaker 3: Mind blown moment where I'm like, hang on, the Ancients
- 31:31Speaker 3: are to the Asguard, what the Asgard are to us?
- 31:34Speaker 2: Yeah?
- 31:34Speaker 3: Basically, like if they didn't scratch the surface of what
- 31:37Speaker 3: the ancients know, You're like, holy shit. So they're lucky
- 31:40Speaker 3: to be in those fourth rate.
- 31:41Speaker 2: Four Yes, yeah, yeah, I suppose because when you think
- 31:44Speaker 2: about it, like, when was the last time the as
- 31:46Speaker 2: Guard would have had any contact with any ancients? Yeah?
- 31:50Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe when was it several million years ago or
- 31:53Speaker 3: ten thousand years ago when the Ancients came back to
- 31:55Speaker 3: Earth from Atlantis?
- 31:57Speaker 2: Yeah?
- 31:58Speaker 3: And then and then yeah, the as Guard I think
- 32:02Speaker 3: that's nice too, because he has give us their knowledge,
- 32:06Speaker 3: So it's kind of like they take it from the
- 32:08Speaker 3: Ancients and they give it to us, which is a
- 32:10Speaker 3: second evolution, which I thought that.
- 32:12Speaker 2: Kind of like not the gatekeepers, the caretakers, all the
- 32:17Speaker 2: knowledge between the ancients and humans. Yeah, yeah, that's interesting.
- 32:22Speaker 2: I like that, which is nice. Yeah, it's a shame
- 32:24Speaker 2: though that they you know, they couldn't get those space
- 32:26Speaker 2: space suits working for when SHOOTA mcgavon was I know.
- 32:30Speaker 2: It's a bit of a shame is around. Yeah, Oh well,
- 32:33Speaker 2: I still think he got cremated. I reckon he got
- 32:35Speaker 2: cremated when we went into the sun torched him. Yeah,
- 32:38Speaker 2: I reckon, he's just he's toast dust.
- 32:41Speaker 3: Oh there was a key. I think I have to
- 32:44Speaker 3: find that. There's an Eli one saying the other one's cooked.
- 32:48Speaker 3: Oh really, because he's like he goes into the spare
- 32:50Speaker 3: shuttle and he's like, I'm not meant to be in here.
- 32:52Speaker 3: It's only for military. We got another one too, but
- 32:54Speaker 3: that's cooked. I was like, oh, bro, that's like your
- 32:59Speaker 3: girlfriend and.
- 33:02Speaker 2: That he's not interested. I did like Eli's little keino
- 33:06Speaker 2: sled though that he made where he just a bunch
- 33:08Speaker 2: of kenos underneath the rack or whatever it was, and
- 33:11Speaker 2: something had a little floating thing.
- 33:12Speaker 3: What's what did he say? What's the weight capacities? Like
- 33:15Speaker 3: it'll be enough.
- 33:17Speaker 2: He's like, my fat ass has been sleeping on it.
- 33:19Speaker 3: So because he said his next was his ambition to fly?
- 33:25Speaker 3: Is it in the next invention to be able to fly?
- 33:27Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, so does it carry you? It's yeah, absolutely,
- 33:33Speaker 2: he's like doing air breaststroke yea, yeah, yeah, he's obviously
- 33:37Speaker 2: for no reason. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's doing his best
- 33:39Speaker 2: Marty McFly in Back to the Future, the Lake pushing, Yeah, yeah,
- 33:43Speaker 2: that would have been a nice reference. Yeah, the Bloody
- 33:46Speaker 2: another Planet of the Apes one. Well, speaking of references,
- 33:49Speaker 2: well he did update in this one.
- 33:52Speaker 3: Well, looks like we entered the Hearth System Empire.
- 33:57Speaker 2: Stretch back second Star Wars movie. Okay, I refuse to
- 34:01Speaker 2: call it episode five. I mean just no one asked. Yeah,
- 34:04Speaker 2: it's been controversial for no reason. It was the second
- 34:07Speaker 2: Star Wars movie.
- 34:07Speaker 1: Yeah, so you know you don't have to dictate whether
- 34:11Speaker 1: or not you call it episode fast.
- 34:13Speaker 2: It's both. Yes, it's the second movie and it's episode fast.
- 34:18Speaker 2: And if you disagree with it, talk to the creator. Yeah, yeah, exactly,
- 34:21Speaker 2: you know, God, yes, it's like it was what's my favorite?
- 34:26Speaker 2: All roosters of chickens, but not all chickens are roosters,
- 34:29Speaker 2: all thumbs and fingers, but not all fingers the thumbs,
- 34:33Speaker 2: same kind of thing. Yeah, yeah, you see what I mean.
- 34:36Speaker 5: He's just I don't know, man, I think I think
- 34:40Speaker 5: he might be a problem for me going forward.
- 34:44Speaker 2: That's good.
- 34:44Speaker 3: I like that because that's going to make it more fun.
- 34:47Speaker 3: Speaking of which, there there is that kind of foreshadowing
- 34:51Speaker 3: that SQ one gave us of what this series is
- 34:54Speaker 3: going to be. And we all know we've all seen
- 34:55Speaker 3: two hundred, so I just wanted to play this like.
- 34:59Speaker 2: He didn't throw the first one to say, well, everyone's
- 35:01Speaker 2: seen first one.
- 35:02Speaker 3: No, not everyone, Not everyone has, so this is this
- 35:05Speaker 3: makes it funny because Eli in the pilot air he
- 35:09Speaker 3: tried to call his mom from the Hammond Oh yes,
- 35:11Speaker 3: and then Russia's like that's probably not going to work
- 35:14Speaker 3: up here, and He's like a right.
- 35:16Speaker 4: One of the new junior executives of the network has
- 35:20Speaker 4: suggested we recast the whole movie with younger, edgier versions
- 35:24Speaker 4: of the team.
- 35:25Speaker 2: Can you imagine that? No, dog, what you do that for?
- 35:34Speaker 2: That's great? That was so totally good. Un I was
- 35:37Speaker 2: still gonna tap that. You'll appreciate me, do you, Scott?
- 35:40Speaker 4: I think you're so totally awesome, Chloe.
- 35:45Speaker 3: That's what I'm talking about Yo, wonder bread, you got
- 35:48Speaker 3: that address to get off for sult.
- 35:50Speaker 4: I'm like translating as fast as I can.
- 35:55Speaker 2: Thing treated like some sort of object to be worshiped.
- 35:57Speaker 2: I'm a real person with real feelings that I'm going
- 36:01Speaker 2: to say it's out this bit.
- 36:08Speaker 1: No mean, which one could that? I mean, she's she's
- 36:13Speaker 1: it's obviously James. That's why she's pissed.
- 36:15Speaker 2: Yeah. No, if she's complaining about not being appreciated, that's
- 36:19Speaker 2: obviously to meil Ray. But she would appreciate TJR. Anymore. Yeah,
- 36:24Speaker 2: but if she's but if she's pregnant, then yet it's
- 36:26Speaker 2: probably Lieutenant James. Yeah, No, that's fair enough. Yeah, I'm
- 36:30Speaker 2: thinking James or TJ in that last one. Not my
- 36:34Speaker 2: presis TJ. We'll see.
- 36:38Speaker 1: I feel like I I appreciated, I mean, even though
- 36:41Speaker 1: we were questioning some leadership stuff there. But just I
- 36:44Speaker 1: think once dick head who I refused to remember his name,
- 36:46Speaker 1: went in there and started firing off bullets and I'm like, oh,
- 36:48Speaker 1: she's That made TJ's reaction to it so much better
- 36:52Speaker 1: when she confronted that in the ship and really should
- 36:55Speaker 1: be shit scared and should react in some way, but
- 36:57Speaker 1: her just sort of looking and it was only when
- 36:59Speaker 1: she got that on the radio that the bugs themselves disappear.
- 37:02Speaker 1: But she didn't react crazy, she was interested, intrigued.
- 37:06Speaker 2: And all that.
- 37:06Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, that's the smartest thing to do, not
- 37:08Speaker 1: like old mates. So and then there were just a
- 37:10Speaker 1: couple of like single shots like I feel like I'm
- 37:12Speaker 1: not because I'm so new to the show. I just
- 37:14Speaker 1: I don't really know faces, like I feel like TJ's
- 37:16Speaker 1: sort of there, shaky camp, I don't like. There was
- 37:19Speaker 1: a couple of shots there where it was just her head,
- 37:21Speaker 1: it was her eyes steering down the barrel of the camera,
- 37:23Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh, that's what I feel like. I'm
- 37:25Speaker 1: getting to actually know you now and now getting in
- 37:28Speaker 1: a spot of leadership or facing against a potential adverse
- 37:31Speaker 1: adversary in the middle of nowhere in the in the universe.
- 37:35Speaker 1: I felt like, yeah, I'm like, I think I respect
- 37:37Speaker 1: you a little bit more now because I've actually had
- 37:38Speaker 1: a chance to get to know you just a little bit. Yeah.
- 37:41Speaker 2: Yeah, i think I've said.
- 37:42Speaker 3: The only people I feel bad for in this series
- 37:44Speaker 3: of James, TJ and Riley, who is I mean, he's
- 37:49Speaker 3: no Walter.
- 37:51Speaker 2: I think he's a similar rank or something. Yeah, in
- 37:54Speaker 2: that well, I mean, you know, it depends on if
- 37:57Speaker 2: you think about the dialogue or what's on the side
- 37:58Speaker 2: of his obviously, but yeah, he's a Master's Aster.
- 38:02Speaker 3: Sergeant, so he's like big techi and stuff. But you'll
- 38:06Speaker 3: notice Riley's quite sweet because he in air. He gave
- 38:09Speaker 3: his water to Rush when he was thirteen. I pretty
- 38:12Speaker 3: much drank it all in this series. Every time he's
- 38:15Speaker 3: just giving his water away or something, yeah, water boils.
- 38:19Speaker 2: I thought it was weird. I was I was like,
- 38:20Speaker 2: why is why is like young so parched? And then
- 38:23Speaker 2: I went, oh, because it's been twelve hours with that
- 38:26Speaker 2: helmet on and he hasn't been able to actually have
- 38:28Speaker 2: drink water any of course. He's yeah, and he's been
- 38:31Speaker 2: dragging Scott on the sled.
- 38:32Speaker 1: And you know how we there have been times, you know,
- 38:35Speaker 1: we've been delayed during doing the podcast, and sometimes things
- 38:39Speaker 1: just happened. You know, there was one momoa. There was
- 38:42Speaker 1: like a momoa episode that I don't know if he
- 38:44Speaker 1: wrote it, but it was all about Ronan when we're
- 38:46Speaker 1: doing SGA and when we recorded and published it, it
- 38:51Speaker 1: came out just to happen to be the same day
- 38:53Speaker 1: as Jason Momoa's birthday when his TV series that was
- 38:56Speaker 1: his passion project for the last ten years released on
- 38:59Speaker 1: I think.
- 39:00Speaker 2: Apple or yeah, what was it called Christ.
- 39:03Speaker 1: Now Now I'm forgetting And I was really excited about it,
- 39:05Speaker 1: and I watched the obviously the sequel series. But you know,
- 39:11Speaker 1: there's just been a few things along the way, even
- 39:12Speaker 1: the idea of a new series coming out, Like, you know,
- 39:14Speaker 1: if we would have never missed a week over the
- 39:16Speaker 1: course of this podcast, we would have been finished a
- 39:18Speaker 1: while ago, and then this new series is coming out,
- 39:20Speaker 1: but we're still able to talk about it. I just
- 39:23Speaker 1: pictured while watching this episode, what if we hadn't it
- 39:25Speaker 1: and we would have been covering this. It might have
- 39:28Speaker 1: been a little bit after COVID, but still close to
- 39:30Speaker 1: the COVID times where they're literally just going through the
- 39:32Speaker 1: ship and just like ripping people's beds apart, looking for
- 39:35Speaker 1: contraband and telling them what they can and can't do,
- 39:37Speaker 1: where they can and can't walk find a bottle of
- 39:40Speaker 1: water like this, I'm holding a two liter bottle of water.
- 39:42Speaker 1: What's this ship? Which you can steal this from? It's
- 39:44Speaker 1: like it's it's mine. I've had it since like the
- 39:46Speaker 1: planet that blew up. It's my personal water bottles, Like
- 39:49Speaker 1: not anymore. It isn't taken it. Someone's sealing water. So
- 39:52Speaker 1: we're going to take it because we're in charge. And
- 39:54Speaker 1: it's like just the unrest that's already going on on
- 39:57Speaker 1: this ship and just how I mean in an under
- 40:00Speaker 1: standable way, because our chief protagonists are the leaders in
- 40:03Speaker 1: their many departments, so we understand why they're making the
- 40:06Speaker 1: decisions that they are, but just how over policed the
- 40:10Speaker 1: rest of the people must feel when they're already scared
- 40:13Speaker 1: and confused. So I don't know, I just I just
- 40:15Speaker 1: kind of like that, and like geez, I wish I
- 40:16Speaker 1: would have watched this episode at.
- 40:18Speaker 2: A different time and to see whether it felt anthing different.
- 40:22Speaker 2: I have a there's a weird thing to me. At
- 40:25Speaker 2: the end of the episode. There's the moment where like
- 40:28Speaker 2: it's kind of a misdirec where you have like Young
- 40:32Speaker 2: leaving a room and you're not sure what's happening, and
- 40:35Speaker 2: then there's like there's music playing and it's silent, and
- 40:37Speaker 2: there's like all these other people like trying to talk
- 40:40Speaker 2: to Young and like trying, oh, we need this, we
- 40:42Speaker 2: need this, blah blah blah, we need to talk about
- 40:44Speaker 2: something or that, and I'm just like, and then you
- 40:46Speaker 2: find out he walks away and he finds out the
- 40:47Speaker 2: Gorman Gorman's dead. But I was like, wouldn't haven't they
- 40:51Speaker 2: already established? And this is I guess going back to
- 40:53Speaker 2: what we were saying before. Wasn't it established in like darkness
- 40:56Speaker 2: and light? Like Camille handles all that stuff, because it's
- 40:59Speaker 2: like when he was bringing all the groups for their meetings,
- 41:02Speaker 2: he was like, you know, Camille was running through and
- 41:04Speaker 2: doing reports. So it's like, yeah, when it comes to
- 41:06Speaker 2: logistical stuff like oh who gets to use the stones
- 41:09Speaker 2: and wall blah blah blah blah blah, and it's like, well,
- 41:11Speaker 2: wouldn't Camille be handling that?
- 41:13Speaker 3: Found strange that he made TJ the captain or whatever
- 41:17Speaker 3: you're in charge. I get it that she's in charge
- 41:19Speaker 3: of military members, but yeah, Camille raised hr. Yeah, she's
- 41:23Speaker 3: part of the IOA, which is where Weir was from,
- 41:26Speaker 3: which is where Woolsey was from. So they should be
- 41:29Speaker 3: in charge if he's.
- 41:30Speaker 2: Oh, so now it's okay for a civilian to be
- 41:33Speaker 2: in charge. Daniel Jackson was in charge of Atlantis, It's okay,
- 41:38Speaker 2: it's going to be good. But yeah, I'm pretty sure,
- 41:39Speaker 2: like at least in the Australian government, Like if you
- 41:41Speaker 2: look at you know, a government work who just works
- 41:44Speaker 2: in you know, Queensland Health all works for the parliament
- 41:48Speaker 2: or whatever they're in like a like an AO three
- 41:51Speaker 2: or an EO two, Like they have a pay grade
- 41:54Speaker 2: and it's like that has an equivalency in the military.
- 41:57Speaker 2: So it's like I feel like the US would have
- 41:59Speaker 2: that as well in terms of like yeah, whatever we was,
- 42:02Speaker 2: she was basically on the equivalent level of a general,
- 42:05Speaker 2: you know, whereas obviously Camille wouldn't be that because the
- 42:11Speaker 2: highest ranking person on on Destiny is a colonel. But
- 42:16Speaker 2: it's like, well, yeah, there's what's TJ. She's a lieutenant,
- 42:19Speaker 2: isn't she, So there's still like captain major, Yeah, she's colonel.
- 42:24Speaker 2: And then fulbertstic mate so she doesn't have a rank.
- 42:27Speaker 2: Yes obviously I'm joking, yeah, because they say they say
- 42:33Speaker 2: lieutenant's Yeah, because Scott calls her lt sometimes instead of
- 42:40Speaker 2: he calls a TJ. But also.
- 42:43Speaker 3: Yeah, confusing, just give us some bloody major, like make
- 42:46Speaker 3: it easier for us, anything about it?
- 42:51Speaker 2: And then speaking of our colonel Colonel Young, I found
- 42:56Speaker 2: out something really kind of It made me appreciate the
- 43:00Speaker 2: actor more. Same with my beloved Heated Rivalry. When I
- 43:02Speaker 2: first watched that, I enjoyed it, But one of the
- 43:06Speaker 2: actors in like the character is playing, is kind of
- 43:08Speaker 2: like on the spectrum, very dead pan, very doesn't doesn't
- 43:11Speaker 2: give a lot, and I was like, Oh, I wish
- 43:13Speaker 2: he kind of gave a little bit more.
- 43:14Speaker 1: And then you go to episode four and you're like,
- 43:16Speaker 1: holy yeah, hey, but I'm just I'm just guessing.
- 43:20Speaker 2: You're just yea this in universe. Obviously we've already spoken
- 43:29Speaker 2: about it. There's a bud eating scene in Heated Rivalry. Yeah,
- 43:32Speaker 2: you see his knees clear, clear, clear the screen, clear
- 43:34Speaker 2: the clear the frame. But Hudson Williams, who's in that,
- 43:39Speaker 2: When you see him doing interviews and stuff like that,
- 43:41Speaker 2: you realize how different he is from his character and
- 43:44Speaker 2: you actually go, oh wow, he's actually a really fantastic
- 43:46Speaker 2: actor with what he's doing. I the audio commentary for
- 43:50Speaker 2: this one had Colonel Young in it, and from the
- 43:53Speaker 2: interviews that I'd seen previously, he just seemed to be
- 43:56Speaker 2: very much the same kind of gruff croaky kind of
- 43:58Speaker 2: voice and stuff like that. I was not prepared to
- 44:01Speaker 2: hear this. Did you miss the rubber faced masked Ilios?
- 44:10Speaker 2: Like me laughing at Peter Deluiz, What was that again?
- 44:16Speaker 2: I'm going to play that again. That was fantastic.
- 44:18Speaker 1: Did you miss the rubber faced masked ilios?
- 44:24Speaker 2: What in the joker? Was that? Like? What he's got? Range? Mate?
- 44:28Speaker 2: He does? I was so impressed. You're Hazenberg.
- 44:31Speaker 1: I'm just trying to find because I was looking him
- 44:33Speaker 1: up in our first name.
- 44:36Speaker 2: It's no, I'm not even going to try Louis Fierra Ferrera.
- 44:40Speaker 2: I think ding ding.
- 44:43Speaker 1: I must have closed the window that I had opened.
- 44:45Speaker 1: But I've only ever known him in far lighter roles.
- 44:48Speaker 1: But there was a sitcom that he was in.
- 44:51Speaker 2: Really, I've not seen him in anything besides Universe in
- 44:53Speaker 2: the middle.
- 44:55Speaker 1: Maybe two seasons and he was Yeah, there was just
- 44:58Speaker 1: like mainly about a husband, life in suburbia and stuff
- 45:01Speaker 1: and yeah obviously Range.
- 45:04Speaker 2: And it was it was.
- 45:06Speaker 1: I actually really enjoyed the show, but I can't think
- 45:09Speaker 1: of the bloody name of it.
- 45:10Speaker 2: Now. That's what I've known him, so when mining it
- 45:13Speaker 2: you now, I'm mimdbing getting inconceivable. What a boy he's
- 45:26Speaker 2: fucking in this building. I keep getting what's his name,
- 45:29Speaker 2: Wallace Sean? Oh? Is that what that says? That's fine? Conceivable.
- 45:34Speaker 3: We I always feel that we never really talk about
- 45:37Speaker 3: Rush too much, just because I don't know, he's doing
- 45:40Speaker 3: Rush things and that's Rush. And but Robert Carlisle is
- 45:43Speaker 3: so brilliant, and I think, like I said, I think
- 45:46Speaker 3: Rushi is the ultimate pragmatist. And his advice to TJ
- 45:53Speaker 3: in this episode was always consider the greater good. M
- 45:59Speaker 3: That's which I was like, huh, that kind of gives
- 46:02Speaker 3: you a good insight into his character. So he will
- 46:05Speaker 3: do whatever it takes for the greater good, even if
- 46:10Speaker 3: that means sacrificing people.
- 46:12Speaker 2: Well, but also it's like the greater good or his
- 46:17Speaker 2: great Yeah, that's right. Yeah, that's where he's a little bit.
- 46:19Speaker 2: That's where he always match. Yeah. Wow, he was in
- 46:22Speaker 2: they don't match for him. Colonel Young also does four
- 46:25Speaker 2: episodes of Travelers. Oh yeah, he is in Travelers. Yeah,
- 46:29Speaker 2: he's also in Shogun. I want to watch that, so
- 46:31Speaker 2: that Disney plus thing. I haven't seen all of Shogan,
- 46:34Speaker 2: but yeah, I just saw that. He's got a three
- 46:35Speaker 2: episode but ironically he plays a character named far Aria, Yeah,
- 46:39Speaker 2: which is so close to his last keep your own
- 46:41Speaker 2: name there. He was in three of the Saw films,
- 46:43Speaker 2: which I've forgotten about. Really.
- 46:44Speaker 1: He played Donald Trump Trump unauthorized whatever that is. Come on,
- 46:49Speaker 1: get to the bloody show doing to the dead. That's right,
- 46:52Speaker 1: this life. We're gonna make the Stargate grade and little
- 46:56Speaker 1: teasers or something next week too, guys.
- 46:57Speaker 2: He was in two episodes of twenty four. That's how they.
- 47:01Speaker 3: Got the directorship from Holy shit, Dorific Brennan.
- 47:06Speaker 2: He was in three episodes of Breaking Bad. Yeah, we've
- 47:10Speaker 2: covered this, mate. He's the one that says you're Hazenberg. Oh,
- 47:14Speaker 2: I didn't realize he's the guy.
- 47:15Speaker 1: God damn right, holy bloom microphones.
- 47:23Speaker 2: I always forget about this Reese. His name is No,
- 47:30Speaker 2: he's the fourth guy photo, the guy on the left.
- 47:35Speaker 4: No.
- 47:35Speaker 2: Colonel Young finds out you guys kind of look alike.
- 47:39Speaker 3: Why he's got the same last name as you.
- 47:44Speaker 2: Yeah, but you and I aren't related. So just because
- 47:47Speaker 2: you and Reese are the same last name doesn't mean
- 47:49Speaker 2: you're related. You've clearly got different dads. No. Colonel Young
- 47:56Speaker 2: was in Voyager. He played Treevis of course, what and
- 48:00Speaker 2: not think of that?
- 48:01Speaker 5: Yeah, remember remember that really bad episode where Naomi woman
- 48:04Speaker 5: is on there, shut up you let's talk about first
- 48:08Speaker 5: one some gossip.
- 48:09Speaker 3: Good.
- 48:10Speaker 5: Remember that episode where Nami Walbin's on the on the
- 48:12Speaker 5: holiday and she's got floorter and treevis.
- 48:15Speaker 2: There's like the water guy that teaches it. And then
- 48:16Speaker 2: there's the guy that's like a tree, like he's a
- 48:19Speaker 2: person but he's a tree. That's Colonel Young. Really yeah,
- 48:23Speaker 2: him sitting there in the tree with his finger on fire,
- 48:25Speaker 2: crying and he's like, crickets, you're Aisenberg. I got some
- 48:31Speaker 2: cricketsun effects. That tests to be as, oh, come on
- 48:36Speaker 2: now I can't. Well, that's I'm done. That was pre
- 48:39Speaker 2: that was pre recorded. Yeah, yeah, you're lucky there. I
- 48:42Speaker 2: know I was. I forget what it was, but I
- 48:44Speaker 2: was surprised that you actually like.
- 48:46Speaker 3: Yeah, that's why I said saving for the podcast, that
- 48:49Speaker 3: we can entertain people with it.
- 48:50Speaker 2: At least. What is so appealing to men about a cat?
- 48:56Speaker 2: Because men think if women aren't grabbing and clawing at
- 48:59Speaker 2: each other, there's a chance they might somehow kiss. I
- 49:03Speaker 2: turned it off. H