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SAFE Alliance cuts could shutter shelter, programs for abuse victims · Austin Signal

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The SAFE Alliance is preparing to
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make millions of dollars in cuts
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starting this summer.
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That includes closing a downtown
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shelter and the end of services that
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provide additional housing
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assistance to people leading an
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abusive situation.
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We've got that story, and after
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public outcry over the unexpected
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demolition of a former cafe in East
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Austin, the developer of the land
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has committed to maintaining what's
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left of the historic building it
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originally promised to preserve.
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The problem?
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Well, there's only a single wall
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left standing.
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More about that coming up on today's
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show.
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The Austin Signal is a production
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of KUT News, hosted by
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Jerry Quijano.
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Plus, what is the Texas
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rap anthem?
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We've got a decent selection to
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choose from across the state.
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The fellas over at the breaks are
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seeking the one true anthem.
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We're gonna talk to them about it.
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That's up next, right here on Austin
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Each year the SAFE Alliance provides
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help to thousands of survivors
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of domestic violence and sexual
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assault.
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That includes places to stay,
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counseling, and other services as
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needed. But now the organization
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is dealing with a drop in government
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funding, which could lead to the
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end of several programs.
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KUT's Luz Moreno Lozano has the
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story.
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The organization provides about 20
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programs to families leaving
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domestic violence and sexual assault
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situations.
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Four of those could be forced to
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close this year because of a lack of
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funds.
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Those programs help house women and
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children who've escaped dangerous
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situations, programs that
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keep children safe, and one that
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performs forensic exams on sexual
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assault victims.
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The nonprofit says it's lost about
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$4 million over the last year.
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That includes two million from
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local, state, and federal funds.
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Pierre Beresine is the executive
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director for the SAFE Alliance.
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If an organization were operating
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just a domestic violence shelter,
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they wouldn't have access to
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that whole ecosystem from
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Planet Safe to Eloise
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House to Bridge to Safety
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to health care navigation,
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court accompaniment, children's
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services, therapeutic and counseling
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services.
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And I can just go on and on and
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because survivors have complex
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lives.
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He says it's what makes the safe
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program model so effective, and
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without it, people and children
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could suffer.
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He says beyond government funding,
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private donors are feeling the pinch
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of the rise in cost of living.
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Quite a long time now, the SAFE
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Alliance has provided some core
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services that
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benefit austenites
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and benefit systems
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that now are
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under threat if we don't
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have an appropriate multi-party
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investment in our services.
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One of those investments is the
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overnight emergency shelter the
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organization operates in downtown
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Austin that helps families and their
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children. Without funding, the
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facility could close in October.
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Currently, right now, we have 55
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children in
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that shelter.
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55 children whose parents
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experienced domestic
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abuse, physical abuse.
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And what happens if that shelter
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closes is that you
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have 55 and their
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mothers, for the most part,
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who have nowhere else to go.
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Makani Kauck was one of those
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mothers. For years, she endured
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abuse from her partner before
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becoming pregnant.
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She couldn't turn to her family, so
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she ended up living in a tent with
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her then two-year-old daughter.
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After her abuser threatened their
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lives, Safe stepped in, offering her
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and her daughter shelter.
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They lived there for several months.
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So we ended up using lots of
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different services. We used
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supportive housing, which
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was great because it came with the
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added security, it came the added
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case management.
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Today, Calc's daughter is 13 years
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old. She visits her dad on some
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weekends through a secure child
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exchange program called Planet Safe,
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another program that could close
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this summer without funding.
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A lot of us as survivors are
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co-parenting with our rapists and
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our abusers.
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Planet Safe is so crucial to
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that. They actually
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retrieved my child when
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they were kidnapped at one point.
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But I still co- parent with my
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abuser and it's
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scary, it's really scary.
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The Safe Alliance doesn't just focus
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on getting people away from their
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abusers and providing shelter.
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Another program that could close
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this summer works to keep families
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together.
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Jo Meyer and her daughter were able
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to be reunited with help from Safe
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Futures.
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As a young mom, she had started
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doing drugs, which resulted in her
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daughter being removed from her
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custody.
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She had to work to get her back, but
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she did it.
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She got sober, she got a steady job,
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and with the support of her Safe
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Futurs advocate, she was able to
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navigate the court system and her
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CPS case.
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Myra says the outgate was one of the
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only people.
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She trusted.
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She was somebody who was not, did
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not work for the court system or
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CPS.
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That was like an outside entity that
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I could like tell everything
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to about what had
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happened and what's going on and
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like just like literally
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anything and like she was able
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to like help me in
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ways that nobody else could.
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Beyond those specific
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program's funding cuts could mean
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just less help can be offered.
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Everything from emergency support to
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ongoing care.
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Makani Kalk not only benefited from
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the SAFE Alliance, but she is now a
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peer support specialist.
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She gets to help others heal the
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same way she did.
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And it was peer support that really
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started to heal my heart and
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my spirit.
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And I think at the heart of peer
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support, it's about connecting with
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people that have been there and that
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are going through and living through
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the same situations.
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And so we are mutually
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vulnerable in a lot of ways.
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SAFE CEO Pierre Berestine says
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he's still working to find the money
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needed to keep those programs
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running. He's met with city and
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state leaders and now local
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hospitals.
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It's not on the city alone to figure
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out. It's none of the county alone
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to figure out, right?
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This is why we are in active
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conversations with the hospitals
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right now to ensure that these
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services stabilize because we
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prevent folks from
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coming inappropriately
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to the emergency room.
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Austin City officials and the
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hospital systems have been working
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with SAFE to find a path forward.
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Austin Mayor Kirk Watson says he is
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optimistic about finding a solution
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to keep all four programs running.
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I'm Luz Moreno Lozano in
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Austin.
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For years, the coffee shop and
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eatery Cenote occupied what many
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considered to be an iconic Austin
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structure built in the late 1800s.
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Over the years, owners made efforts
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to preserve the historic site while
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also maintaining their business, and
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when they vacated the property,
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they did so with assurances that the
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next tenant would have the same
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viewpoint and preserve the building,
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and so did the city of Austin.
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But with nearly all of the property
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now bulldozed over, with just
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one wall left many
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austenites are left wondering what
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happened.
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For more, we're speaking with Sam
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Stark, government reporter at Austin
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Current. Great to have you back,
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Sam. Yeah, thanks for having me.
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So walk us through the story a
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little bit. Who first noticed that
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something was wrong when they looked
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at this plot of land after
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construction at?
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Started already.
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Yeah, so it was actually the former
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Cenote owner who is
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now operating her cafe out of
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a restaurant just a couple of
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blocks away from the original site.
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But she saw that the
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building was reduced to essentially
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just one wall, the facade
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of the historic building.
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She knew the developers who were
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moving in after she vacated.
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It was a South Texas developer.
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Who purchased it, planning to bring
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a Southern California-based chain,
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Earth Cafe.
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They applied for a permit
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saying at the time they would quote,
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or the quote, intent would be to
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preserve as much as possible of
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the shell, but that's clearly
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not what ended up happening.
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Yeah, seeing that one wall just
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there was pretty jarring.
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What were the original work
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parameters that the city gave to the
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new tenants?
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The city told them, or
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they were okay with their
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plans to essentially renovate
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and reconstruct a lot of the
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facade, but as soon as they saw how
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much they demolished, they
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issued a stop work order and which
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still remains in effect this week.
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Okay, well this destruction has
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gotten a lot of people upset.
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What is the reasoning behind that?
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Is it because Austin is already
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changing so much and here's one more
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piece of Austin that's gone away?
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Or is it more so a focus
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on this iconic home that was in East
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Austin?
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Yeah, well, this this structure
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specifically had people had
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their eyes on that for being
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preserved, it was on a list
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of buildings with a high priority
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of being preserved.
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But especially on East Austin, where
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a lot of historic and older
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buildings have been demolished,
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people are sensitive to when
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something like this occurs.
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But the developers actually had to
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go back in front of the historic
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landmark commission last week
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and the historic Landmark
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commissioners did not hide their
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disappointment from the
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developers.
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What did you hear at that meeting?
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So the developing team
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told them that when their
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intent was to preserve as much as
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the building as possible,
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but when they started demolishing
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it, they realized that the damage
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was far beyond what they
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expected. And they had to demolish
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what was there in order for
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it not to collapse.
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But the commissioners did not
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necessarily buy this excuse.
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They said if they were well versed
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in preservation.
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They would have recognized that
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these are common issues one might
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encounter when working with older
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buildings.
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They said instead of proceeding with
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the demolition, they should have
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consulted with a preservation expert
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or with the commission for advice
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if they were serious about
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preserving the structure.
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There is now a stop-work order on
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this property. What does that mean
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for the?
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Future of the land?
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So the developer actually will go in
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front of the commission's
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architectural review committee this
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afternoon, or Wednesday afternoon,
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to outline the proposed rebuilds.
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Without official historic
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designation though, the
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commission power is limited to
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giving advice, so after they present
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their plans, it is expected
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that they will be able to proceed
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with building that new cafe.
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Okay, there are certainly lots of
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upset feelings around this story
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and many people are calling for
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consequences.
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Is that likely to happen?
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I mean, is it even possible for
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consequences in this kind of matter?
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Yeah, so one group with a vested
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interest in this type of stuff is
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Preservation Austin, and they were
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very disappointed in
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this process.
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They told me that they think it's
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time that we figure out a way
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to make sure something like this
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doesn't happen again, calling it
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unacceptable.
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Right now, however, there is no
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indication of a new ordinance or
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code to prevent this from happening
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in the future.
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But they said just getting the word
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out about situations like this is
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helpful.
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Okay Sam, before we let you go, in
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your role at Austin Current you also
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work hand-in-hand with Austin PBS on
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the show Austin Insight that airs
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Thursdays at 7 p.m.
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What are you working on this week?
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Yeah, so my story is on the
11:58
cumbersome rollout of the new
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short-term rental regulations.
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On July 1st, all short-terms rentals
12:04
on sites like Airbnb and VRBO
12:06
will need to have a license listed,
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but some of the short- term rental
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operators I spoke to say the
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convoluted process is likely to
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make some operators miss the
12:15
deadline.
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All right, that is on Austin Insight
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that airs Thursdays at 7 p.m.
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We have been speaking with Sam
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Stark, government reporter for
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Austin Current, our partners in
12:24
covering the city of Austin.
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Sam, it's always great to talk with
12:26
you. Great to be here.
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We'll be back after a break.
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This is Austin Signal, welcome back.
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Model railroading has been a popular
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hobby pretty much as
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long as trains have been around.
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Steven Jacobs has been fan for
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about half a century now.
12:51
He spoke with Mike Lee about it for
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the This Is My Thing podcast.
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Going over the bridge, you're going
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to turn the shift.
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And this is something you've been
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doing for decades.
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My dad passed on a train set
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to me when i was ten years old it
13:06
didn't take for him as a hobby but
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it took for me every boy needs an
13:10
obsession at that age and i found a
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good one least i think i thought
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So what do you think it was about
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that first train, when you
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were 10 years old, that just kind of
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grabbed your brain and made
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you love it?
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So I think it was that I
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could create a
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whole complicated world,
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that I could really track work
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such that it would move in
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complicated ways and
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could simulate what real trains do,
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which move with purpose.
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It was something I could always
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go to and add in terms of
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details, whether it was building or
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painting cars,
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learned about electricity, learned
13:58
about woodworking.
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I learned a little bit about
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metalworking, I could
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create things.
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So we are in our spare
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room which I share with my wife and
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what we have is it's about 11
14:13
by 14 is
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a built over time a
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shelf that holds the trains
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halfway around the room so
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what you're looking at is a
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mythical might-have-been railroad
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that would have run between
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Austin and Taylor
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northeast of here was
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a big railroad town Taylor was and
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that's where we started.
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So we'll start over here.
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When you were 10, how long did it
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take between opening that box and
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realizing you were a train guy?
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It didn't take very long.
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This is up in Northern Wisconsin.
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We lived in a city called superior
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on Lake superior.
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And it's cold up there for 10
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months of the year.
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So guys are down in their basements
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with their model railroads began
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spending a lot of time at the hobby
14:56
shop by time was 14.
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I was spending so much time there
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that they hired me.
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So
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You're going to be there anyway.
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I was going to be there anyway and I
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did not take much money home, got
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paid a buck and a quarter an hour
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and didn't even take that home, but
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I took a lot of product home, some
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of which I've still got and still
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put to use today.
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And you'll hear...
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And to see what looks to be possibly
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a work in progress over here of a
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boxcar.
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We have a, yep, we have
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a box car in progress, it's in the
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paint booth.
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You'll hear an
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exhaust fan and a compressor,
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we'll fire it up, do that quite
15:45
a bit here because one of the things
15:47
I really enjoy is...
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I know that you can go into a hobby
15:50
store and buy little
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buildings and things to put in
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a train layout.
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Do you buy some of yours or I know
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you make some as well?
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So, the part that really attracts
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me, gives me energy,
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is the creative part, you
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know, this little myth I made up
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about Austin and Taylor, that's one,
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but the other is fashioning
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something that didn't exist
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before.
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To be honest, I don't buy anything
16:17
without improving
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it. Absolutely nothing is
16:21
as it would have come out of the
16:23
box.
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Did you know that you needed
16:26
that sort of creative outlet or
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did that just sort of come?
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Good question.
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So a lot of people
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like things settled.
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I'm not someone that
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likes them settled and if they are
16:40
settled my instinct is
16:42
to unsettle
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it.
16:45
I've always been of the mind that
16:46
things can be improved and
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maybe it's because I was the
16:50
youngest of five and the job
16:52
description is you have to be the
16:53
rebel. The older ones are the rule
16:55
makers and you want to be the rule
16:57
reshapers.
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You must come from a very wholesome
17:00
family if you're the family rebel,
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and as a teenager you were working
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at a hot shop and
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building model trains.
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Not a wild child, I admit.
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There are plenty of ways to rebel.
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Yeah, that's right. They don't have
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to be destroyed.
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That's right.
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That was model railroading
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enthusiast Steven Jacobs speaking
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with Mike Lee for the This Is
17:26
My Thing podcast.
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We're going to have a link in our
17:28
show notes so you can listen to the
17:30
full episode that is This
17:32
Is My Things.
17:35
Brackets for this year's men's and
17:36
women's NCAA basketball tournaments
17:38
wrapped up in the past couple of
17:39
days, but there is still one
17:41
competition looking to crown its
17:42
champion.
17:43
For more about that, we are talking
17:44
with the hosts of The Breaks, Fresh
17:46
Night and Confucius Jones.
17:47
Welcome back to the show, fellas.
17:49
Thanks for having me. Thanks.
17:49
Thanks for having us. I feel like a
17:50
regular.
17:50
You are becoming regulars very
17:52
quickly very quickly.
17:53
So let's talk about that
17:55
competition. I mentioned y'all been
17:56
playing that out over the last few
17:57
weeks on the breaks What is the
17:59
competition?
18:00
It is a
18:02
March Madness Final Four style
18:03
bracket of the Texas
18:06
rap anthems.
18:08
So songs that we or
18:10
most Texan rap
18:12
fans would deem an
18:14
anthem for the state of Texas once
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you hear it.
18:17
64 just like the
18:21
64 Texas rap anthem
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I think the initial list we had
18:25
we were probably closer to 64.
18:27
Okay. Okay, I think we
18:29
Initially had maybe 40
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to 50 songs.
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Okay But we whittled it down to
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16 which it took a lot.
18:36
Okay? So who were some of those 16?
18:39
16 we started with were little
18:41
flips. I can do that June 27th
18:43
by DJ screw
18:45
25 lighters 25 light years
18:47
DJ DMD most hit it
18:49
down by zero, which I am surprised
18:53
Okay, I was definitely gonna ask
18:54
y'all about about upsets
18:56
in the tournament, but were there
18:57
any Austin are there any, Austin
18:59
Texas rap anthems
19:01
Fortunately, there were
19:03
not.
19:04
It was very Houston heavy, because
19:06
I just think Houston is the
19:08
purveyor and steward of the culture
19:10
here in Texas, so most
19:12
of the songs that you would know off
19:14
the top of your head come from
19:16
Houston.
19:17
Okay, so you mentioned a song
19:19
that you didn't anticipate was
19:21
going to be knocked out.
19:22
What were the biggest upsets?
19:24
Most of the time, definitely.
19:26
I've been in parties before.
19:27
Fresh has been in a party where that
19:28
song comes on and everybody knows
19:29
the words to it.
19:30
I thought it would at least make the
19:32
final four, it didn't.
19:34
I thought maybe 25 lighters would
19:36
make it to the last two and
19:38
it didn't so that
19:40
was my two upsets.
19:41
I might have to think about it.
19:42
My biggest upset would be Mo City
19:44
Dawn, much like Confucius.
19:46
Like he said, we've both been in
19:48
functions where the song comes
19:50
on, and even before people
19:52
play the verse
19:54
from Zero, they ask you, like, if
19:56
you're not from Texas...
19:58
If you don't know this song, then
19:59
you're not from Texas.
20:00
I need to hear y'all say it." And
20:01
then the whole crowd will know
20:03
the song word for word.
20:04
And most people would probably say,
20:07
if you asked them what the anthem
20:08
for Texas is, they would probably go
20:10
to zeroes most of the time.
20:11
But fortunately, it was knocked out
20:13
of the first round.
20:14
Okay, okay, and who's been voting
20:15
on-
20:17
Just anybody who visits the KU T.
20:18
KUTX.org.
20:19
It's available for you to vote at
20:21
KUTx.org, so
20:23
shout out to the fans for going and
20:24
voting, man.
20:25
There's some upsets right like yes,
20:26
that's why you play the games were
20:28
you to say?
20:28
Were you gonna say something, Fishus?
20:29
No, I was gonna say, I thought
20:30
Riding Dirt by Comedian would go
20:31
further, too. That was a huge song,
20:32
but.
20:34
Okay, well you guys already
20:35
mentioned some big songs, so I'm
20:37
kind of nervous to figure out what
20:38
the Final Four are, where are we at
20:40
in the competition.
20:40
The final four are as
20:42
stands Mike Jones still tipping
20:44
featuring Slim Thug and Paul Wall
20:47
UGK with international players
20:48
anthem featuring outcasts
20:50
DJ DMD 25 lighters featuring
20:52
a little Kiki and fat pat and
20:55
Look Kiki solo with
20:57
Southside
20:58
Okay. Okay.
20:59
And you said that people can vote
21:00
over at kutx.org.
21:02
I was listening to your show on
21:03
Saturday and y'all were talking
21:04
about bootlegging albums, right?
21:06
Like songs that you heard way,
21:08
way, way before on a bootleg version
21:10
than you heard on the official CD
21:11
version. So of these 16 Texas
21:13
rap anthems, how many did you hear
21:15
on bootleg and how many you hear on
21:17
a CD that you purchased from a
21:19
store.
21:21
You know is it overwhelming on one
21:23
side to the other I see the list
21:24
again But if I had to put a
21:25
percentage on it probably 90% of
21:27
those songs. I heard
21:28
I was about to say the majority of
21:29
those songs I probably heard like
21:32
somebody downloading it from Lime
21:33
War and putting it on a burnt CD
21:34
first before officially
21:36
hearing it.
21:37
They spoon like Houston music really
21:38
heavily down here, too.
21:40
So I didn't get an actual real like
21:42
switch out CD for years
21:43
I don't think I've ever had a real
21:44
official Swisher house.
21:45
I didn't know where to get them at.
21:47
Every place I went to had the
21:48
bootlegs.
21:50
Okay, well that was part of what
21:51
y'all talked about on Saturday.
21:53
You also talked a little bit about
21:54
Jay Cole's recent publicity tour
21:56
that he's been going on.
21:57
You can hear the breaks every
21:59
Saturday from 10 to 1 a.m.
22:01
On KUTX and wherever you get your
22:03
podcasts. What are you all talking
22:04
about this weekend?
22:05
We're talking about this Gucci Mane
22:07
and Pooch Icedee altercation.
22:09
And we also have an interview
22:11
with Tiana Major-Nine,
22:13
an R&B artist from London who has
22:15
worked with Babyface, been Grammy
22:17
nominated, and is trying
22:19
to build up her profile here in the
22:20
States. Very cool, well
22:21
You know, it's not often that the
22:24
what happens on the brakes overlaps
22:25
with what happens in the KUT
22:26
newsroom But somebody asked last
22:28
weekend. Does anybody know who Gucci
22:30
Mane is? So like now I'm actually
22:35
Well, we'll have to bring you into
22:36
the conversation but check that out
22:38
again Saturday nights from 10 to
22:40
1 a.m And wherever you get the
22:41
podcast wherever you'd get
22:43
your podcast. We've been chatting
22:45
with Confucius Jones and fresh night
22:46
They are the hosts of the brakes.
22:48
Thanks guys. Thanks for being
22:49
regulars. Thanks
22:51
And thank you for spending the
22:54
Thursday afternoon here with us
22:55
on Austin Signal.
22:57
I'm your host, Jerry Quijano.
22:58
We will be back with you tomorrow.
23:00
Have a great day. Be safe out there.