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Assessing Angels' thin farm system; prospect expert Keith Law joins · Halo Territory: A Los Angeles Angels Podcast

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Speaker 1: Well, hey Angel fans, and welcome back to Halo Territory.
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Speaker 1: I am Mike D. G Gievanna, former La Times Baseball
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Speaker 1: writer and host of the show, joined as usual by
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Speaker 1: my co host Mark Trumbo, the former Angel slugger, and
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Speaker 1: our special guest today is Keith Law. Keith is a
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Speaker 1: senior writer for The Athletic. Former special assistant to the
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Speaker 1: Toronto Blue Jays general manager, Keith writes extensively about prospects
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Speaker 1: and the draft for the Athletic. Keith, really glad to
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Speaker 1: have you on here. Welcome to the show.
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Speaker 2: How you doing today, I'm good, Thanks for having me.
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Speaker 1: You guys doing great, doing great. We thought before we
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Speaker 1: dive into the Angels farm system that we I was
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Speaker 1: hoping Keith, you could sort of give us a little
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Speaker 1: peak behind a curtain on how you do your job,
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Speaker 1: Like how vast is the network of scouts and player
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Speaker 1: to play development people that you tap for your prospect lists,
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Speaker 1: your mock drafts. How much video are you watching throughout
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Speaker 1: the week, and how much evaluation do you do with
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Speaker 1: your own eyes.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the most important part. I mean, I wish
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Speaker 2: I could do more, honestly, but I go out.
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Speaker 1: I'll be out.
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Speaker 2: Not this weekend, next weekend. College season starts this Friday.
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Speaker 2: We got a family birthday, so I'll be home for
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Speaker 2: that following weekend. I'll go out and be out almost
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Speaker 2: every weekend until we get to May. I'll do spring
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Speaker 2: training in Arizona for sure, probably Florida. I hate Florida, Mark,
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Speaker 2: I'm sure you can attest that it is no comparison
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Speaker 2: between the two. And then during the season as much
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Speaker 2: minor league stuff as I can reasonably get to. I
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Speaker 2: live in Wilmington, Delaware. I've got eight teams within two
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Speaker 2: hours of me. I'm always watching to see who's coming through.
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Speaker 2: In addition, obviously just evaluating the local guys, you know,
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Speaker 2: do the future game, do the Fall League, and then
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Speaker 2: all year I'm just talking to guys naturally, like I do.
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Speaker 2: Know a lot of scouts and executives. There are some
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Speaker 2: I just talk to more because they like to talk.
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Speaker 2: There are guys who just you know, you sort of
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Speaker 2: get a feel for who's willing to talk and just say,
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Speaker 2: here are the guys I saw, here's what I think,
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Speaker 2: And who is the type who just wants to get
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Speaker 2: on the phone and just talk baseball.
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Speaker 1: For an hour or so?
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Speaker 2: Because I also like doing that. I can talk on
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Speaker 2: the phone for hours, particularly if we're talking baseball, and
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Speaker 2: so I kind of do that throughout the year for
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Speaker 2: this process. The last six weeks or so have just
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Speaker 2: been heavy video work, some like data work, nothing compared
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Speaker 2: to what teams are doing. And then last three three
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Speaker 2: and a half weeks it's just been writing constantly where
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Speaker 2: I have Synergy as a video and data app that
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Speaker 2: I have access to and got all my notes and
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Speaker 2: eighty tabs open and Chrome and then I'm wondering why
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Speaker 2: my computer is not running so fast, and just just
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Speaker 2: plow through them, three teams a day, every day until
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Speaker 2: it was done. I think I finished the last one
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Speaker 2: on Saturday night. Everyone was to sleep here and I
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Speaker 2: was like, oh my god, I could finish. I could
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Speaker 2: just finally be done, finished off the Blue Jay so
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Speaker 2: I could enjoy Bad Bunny in peace on side.
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Speaker 1: There you go. All right, Well, let's dig into this
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Speaker 1: Angels farm system. As Halo fans know, they've had ten
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Speaker 1: straight losing seasons, and six of those seasons they've lost
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Speaker 1: eighty eight games or more. So they've picked in the
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Speaker 1: top half of the draft. I believe it's nine times
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Speaker 1: in twelve years they've been in the top ten, and
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Speaker 1: four of those years, yet their farm system has been
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Speaker 1: ranked in the bottom five for like the last five
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Speaker 1: straight years. How is that possible when this team is
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Speaker 1: picking so high on the draft every year.
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Speaker 2: It's a combination of not a lot of success in
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Speaker 2: the draft, and also their last three first rounders are
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Speaker 2: all in the big leagues, and whatever you think of them,
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Speaker 2: they don't qualify as prospects anymore. For I think most
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Speaker 2: of us, those of us who do it full time,
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Speaker 2: we just use the rookie of the year eligibility, and
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Speaker 2: so Zach Netto was out almost immediately, Nolan Chanuel and
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Speaker 2: Christian Moore, I think each of them would have been
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Speaker 2: eligible one time, and then they were in the big leagues.
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Speaker 2: So most other systems that you look at, they'll have
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Speaker 2: a couple of first rounders sort of littered through. They're
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Speaker 2: usually high in the top ten, but at least on
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Speaker 2: the top twenty, and the Angels have lost out on that.
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Speaker 2: But then also, I'm sure we'll talk more about this.
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Speaker 2: They've had some drafts that just really haven't worked out,
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Speaker 2: and they've i think so much of their draft philosophy
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Speaker 2: has been about getting guys who can either get to
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Speaker 2: the big leagues quickly or potentially be tradable for them
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Speaker 2: for major league help, that it has resulted in worse
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Speaker 2: outcomes for them in the draft, whether getting guys who
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Speaker 2: aren't high seiling enough or who aren't developing enough, or
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Speaker 2: who get into the system and they stall, which I
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Speaker 2: think is probably more applicable to some of their international
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Speaker 2: free agents, but it's been true on the draft side too.
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Speaker 2: They've taken guys I have liked who've gotten in and
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Speaker 2: just haven't improved anywhere near up to expectations.
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Speaker 3: That makes a lot of sense. That is kind of
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Speaker 3: what we have talked about as well. You commented that
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Speaker 3: twenty two year old Denzer Guzman really didn't belong in
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Speaker 3: the big leagues last year. He didn't have any success
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Speaker 3: and it didn't look like he was ready quite frankly,
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Speaker 3: Nelson rod is twenty and Joshua Lugo's nineteen, they're right
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Speaker 3: behind him, also candidates for maybe premature promotions. How widespread
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Speaker 3: is this through the Angel system, especially the international players.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I hear this a lot from friends of mine,
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Speaker 2: scout friends of mine who cover the Angels, where it's
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Speaker 2: there it's like a disclaimer constantly, where it's like, what
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Speaker 2: do you think of Nelson Rada? And you know, one
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Speaker 2: guy said he's got to be their best prospect. Now
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Speaker 2: he hadn't seen Bremner yet at that point, Rex Bremner
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Speaker 2: didn't pitch, but you know, of the guy who are
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Speaker 2: already in the system, he said, Rod is clearly the
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Speaker 2: best guy, but he didn't belong to Double A. He
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Speaker 2: didn't belong in Triple A. It's just this constant caveat
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Speaker 2: that they're offering. We like these players, we think they
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Speaker 2: have ability, but they shouldn't have been at the levels
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Speaker 2: they were at, and I do think it ends up
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Speaker 2: hurting a lot of these players development. Where Guzmud, I mean,
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Speaker 2: that poor guy looked like he was in survival mode.
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Speaker 2: I'm impressed that he was able to have this season
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Speaker 2: he had. When that same scout I'm talking about he
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Speaker 2: said he saw Guzman in Double A and he's like,
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Speaker 2: I do you know, I don't even know if they
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Speaker 2: can send this guy out to Double A and spreams
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Speaker 2: playing with that squad in spring training and started slow
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Speaker 2: and then just got you know what, played well enough
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Speaker 2: there to earn a promotion to Triple A and then
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Speaker 2: struggled with contact in Triple A, and then they promote
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Speaker 2: him to the big leagues anyway because according to them,
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Speaker 2: they just they had a need. Geez. That is not
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Speaker 2: how you develop players based on your need at the time.
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Speaker 2: It's based on what the player actually needs. And so
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Speaker 2: I think because he is international free agents, they typically
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Speaker 2: come in at sixteen or seventeen, it's more blatant when
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Speaker 2: they get rushed versus all the college guys they've drafted.
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Speaker 2: They might promote some of them too quickly. I think
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Speaker 2: more got promoted to the majors too quickly, but it's
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Speaker 2: not as noticeable because he's twenty two and he looks
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Speaker 2: like a man at that point, where some of the
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Speaker 2: these guys still look like kids. Jo Oswa Lugo still
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Speaker 2: looks super young. So if they rush him up to
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Speaker 2: Double A this year, it's going to be pretty glaring.
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Speaker 2: It's just less so with the college guys.
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Speaker 1: Let's talk a little bit a bit about their top prospect,
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Speaker 1: Tyler Bremner, a number two overall pick last year, and
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Speaker 1: your recent report you described him as a guy who
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Speaker 1: quote doesn't have a lot of ceiling beyond a number
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Speaker 1: three starter. I know Bremner was a way under slot pick,
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Speaker 1: but don't you need to get a little more than
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Speaker 1: a number three starter with a number two overall pick
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Speaker 1: in the draft.
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Speaker 2: I think so, and I hope I'm wrong, but I
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Speaker 2: saw him. I actually got his worst start of the year,
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Speaker 2: second weekend out where you give up seven runs to
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Speaker 2: University Seattle University not exactly a SEC powerhouse there. He
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Speaker 2: throws hard, and he does have a really good change up.
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Speaker 2: You know, this could be a Michael Waka level change up.
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Speaker 2: It could be a kind of a Michael Waka level package.
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Speaker 2: If the fastball gets a little bit better in quality,
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Speaker 2: I think he could be that kind of pitcher. Bremner
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Speaker 2: does not have a great breaking ball. He throws a slider.
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Speaker 2: Now he gets a high spin rate on it, but
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Speaker 2: it's not very effective. It doesn't break that sharply. Some
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Speaker 2: of it is how he lands. I just think he
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Speaker 2: has a hard time working to his gloves side. Maybe
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Speaker 2: the Angels can help that. They're not an organization that's
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Speaker 2: had a lot of success, I think in terms of
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Speaker 2: making significant mechanical changes to guys hitters or pitchers to
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Speaker 2: get them to improve. That, however, is what I think
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Speaker 2: he would need to do get a better breaking pitch
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Speaker 2: anyway that he can to be more than a number
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Speaker 2: three star as currently constituted. I think it is the
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Speaker 2: Michael Locha skill set and walk has been a valuable
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Speaker 2: Big leaguer for a long time, but he's never been
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Speaker 2: somebody you want pitching in the first or second spot
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Speaker 2: in irritation. You like him because he throws strikes. The
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Speaker 2: change up is a real out pitch, and at least
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Speaker 2: when he was younger he was able to handle some innings.
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Speaker 2: He's done a little bit of that for the Royals too,
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Speaker 2: so he's.
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Speaker 1: A good pitcher.
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Speaker 2: I think you want more than that when you pick second.
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Speaker 2: I think they've passed on some higher ceiling guys, maybe
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Speaker 2: a little higher risk. We're a little further away from
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Speaker 2: being able to help a big league club than Bremner,
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Speaker 2: but would have been better selections in my opinion at
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Speaker 2: the second pick.
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Speaker 1: All right, welcome back to Halo Territory. I believe Mark
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Speaker 1: Trumbo has the next question.
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Speaker 3: You described high school left in a picture Johnny Slowinski
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Speaker 3: as the best pick of the draft class for the Angels.
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Speaker 3: What did you like about Johnny? What what what made
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Speaker 3: him stand out amongst these other guys, And there are
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Speaker 3: some strong picks that they took this year.
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Speaker 2: It's a real upside play and the kind of thing
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Speaker 2: I think they need to be doing more of because
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Speaker 2: they need stars this major league roster. Kazaknettos turned into
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Speaker 2: a pretty good big leaguer. I think Shaniel is going
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Speaker 2: to be maybe a solid average big leaguer, but they
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Speaker 2: need stars and Slowinsky was one of the most interesting
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Speaker 2: high school pitchers in the draft class. He's left handed,
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Speaker 2: He's super athletic. He's a multi sport guy who doesn't
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Speaker 2: have as much baseball experience as some of the baseball
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Speaker 2: only guys, which I often think you always want to
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Speaker 2: bet on the athletes because you know they can make
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Speaker 2: more adjustments, they're more flexible, and also the limited experiences,
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Speaker 2: to meither may be more growth just from him focusing
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Speaker 2: on one sport. And he already showed three pitches, not
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Speaker 2: necessarily plus right now, but enough makings of three pitches
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Speaker 2: that you could project forward as he gets stronger, as
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Speaker 2: he gets into professional development, you could see him having
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Speaker 2: his low nineties fastball gets up to the mid nineties.
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Speaker 2: The slider, it's already pretty good. Maybe that ends up
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Speaker 2: an out pitch for him, has enough of a change
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Speaker 2: up already to say he can be a three pitch
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Speaker 2: guy to stay as a starter. They just haven't shot
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Speaker 2: for the moon very much in the draft. And whether
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Speaker 2: I don't even care at this point, if it's a
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Speaker 2: hitter or a pitcher. You got to go for some
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Speaker 2: upside here. You've got to go for somebody who might
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Speaker 2: pitch in the top two spots of rotation, might hit two, three,
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Speaker 2: or four in a lineup, because they have chased after
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Speaker 2: those guys enough. So I was legitimately excited when I
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Speaker 2: heard them take Slewinski and I happen to know the
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Speaker 2: scout who who drafted in the area, scout down there Ton.
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Speaker 2: It's like, oh my god, you got you got your guy,
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Speaker 2: you got a chance for you know, everything works out.
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Speaker 2: This is a guy who's an all star for you.
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Speaker 2: And that's exciting for scouts, and I think Angels fans
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Speaker 2: should be cautiously excited these high school pictures. Guys stay healthy,
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Speaker 2: but this is a pretty good package. They haven't had
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Speaker 2: a lot of guys like this in their system. I
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Speaker 2: would say on draft Day, I like Sewinsky more than
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Speaker 2: I liked Caden Dana at the time of his draft.
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Speaker 2: To just pick another high school picture was at least
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Speaker 2: he's worked out in the sense at least he's gotten
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Speaker 2: to the big leagues. His story is not written, but
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Speaker 2: at least he made it there.
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Speaker 1: Who else do you like out of that twenty five draft.
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Speaker 1: I know I'm probably projecting a little just based on body,
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Speaker 1: but that Chase Shore's kid seems to be pretty projectable
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Speaker 1: in terms of tools and you know, everything you want
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Speaker 1: and a big league picture.
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Speaker 2: He's huge, right, He's listed it six A two forty
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Speaker 2: five mcbe little heavier and that that was fine. If
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Speaker 2: anybody watched the College World Series, right, he closed it
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Speaker 2: out for them and they could not hit the fastball.
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Speaker 2: I don't think he's a starter. I do like him.
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Speaker 2: Like if the Angels are thinking we need somebody from
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Speaker 2: this draft to get to the big leagues because it
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Speaker 2: seems to be the rule for them, that's the guy
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Speaker 2: you rush. I don't rush Bremner. I'm saying, no, Bremner,
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Speaker 2: we want to work on finding you an effective third pitch,
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Speaker 2: and so we'll take our time. We'reas suors. Yeah, I
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Speaker 2: would love it if he had a third pitch, but really,
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Speaker 2: what is he He is a power reliever up to
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Speaker 2: one hundred with a plus slider, and just have him
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Speaker 2: come in and just throw hard. Guys are going to
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Speaker 2: miss the fastball. They'll be so geared up for one
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Speaker 2: hundred they're going to miss the slider enough and just
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Speaker 2: say this, this is probably what you are like. He
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Speaker 2: lost his rotation spot at LSU, So saying you're going
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Speaker 2: to make him a starter not impossible at all, But
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Speaker 2: you are swimming upstream a little bit for an organization
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Speaker 2: has not had a lot of success on the development side.
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Speaker 2: So to me, Shores is the guy where he could
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Speaker 2: pitch in the big leagues for them this year and
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Speaker 2: be really good in some kind of swing or relief
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Speaker 2: role where he is making a difference. And if that
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Speaker 2: makes them feel like they can take their time with Bremner,
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Speaker 2: with Slowinski, with everybody else in that draft class, great,
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Speaker 2: because I just feel like they do sort of draft
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Speaker 2: and develop as if they have to say, here's one
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Speaker 2: guy from last year's draft who's already in the big leagues.
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Speaker 1: We have to show that.
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Speaker 2: Okay, okay, fine, let that be sures take your time
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Speaker 2: at some of these other guys.
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Speaker 1: Sort of a follow up to that the Angels, and
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Speaker 1: we follow the Angels closely. Maybe this happens with every organization,
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Speaker 1: but they seem to have this pension for taking starters
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Speaker 1: in the draft, college starters, and they always end up
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Speaker 1: in the bullpen. Is there a reason this is happening?
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Speaker 1: Is there something on the player development side that or
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Speaker 1: something on just the types of kids they're drafting on
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Speaker 1: the mound that this seems to happen over and over again.
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Speaker 2: I think that. I mean thinking back to that all
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Speaker 2: Picture draft too, where they were going for a lot
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Speaker 2: of guys with with stuff that would play immediately in
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Speaker 2: a bowl pen, but not enough of a complete package,
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Speaker 2: lacking a third pitch, lacking command or even enough control,
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Speaker 2: lacking a delivery that might work for a starter, where
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Speaker 2: it's sort of a lot of these guys are destined
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Speaker 2: for relief and they tried to even take some relievers
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Speaker 2: in that draft. I feel like Mason Erlo was one
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Speaker 2: where they toyed with making him a starter, and for
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Speaker 2: a minute it looked like they might have had something,
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Speaker 2: but he couldn't succeed or hold up in that role
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Speaker 2: where yeah, they weren't taking kind of those long range,
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Speaker 2: projectible guys or just the durable college guys where you know,
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Speaker 2: one thing I will say for Bremner, that's a starter.
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Speaker 2: He is a starter. I just don't think there's a
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Speaker 2: ton of ceiling as he is right now. But there's
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Speaker 2: no question that that guy sticks in a rotation with
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Speaker 2: the delivery, with the control, with the track record of
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Speaker 2: holding up under a starter's workload. They haven't taken enough
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Speaker 2: of those types of guys. And also the reliever is
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Speaker 2: the default, right If you don't develop your starters, if
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Speaker 2: you don't develop pitchers, they just end up in the
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Speaker 2: bullpen or nowhere. So I think that's also what you've
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Speaker 2: seen hapen is they haven't had that starter's success, so
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Speaker 2: guys just trickle down and end up in the bullpen.
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Speaker 3: Not so players specific, but more organizationally. What are the
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Speaker 3: strengths and maybe what are the real weaknesses in this
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Speaker 3: angel's organization. I looking at your list, I saw really
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Speaker 3: no power bats listed at all, maybe one but a
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Speaker 3: catcher that might move off the position. But it seemed
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Speaker 3: like there were not any a lot of low graded
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Speaker 3: power power tools.
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Speaker 2: And I just feel like on the hitting side, they're
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Speaker 2: just generally not that strong, you know, I don't. They've
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Speaker 2: definitely leaned pitching on the draft in particular, So I
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Speaker 2: think if there's a strength here, it's that there's some
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Speaker 2: pitching depth. It just may not be high ceiling pitching.
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Speaker 2: Maybe a lot of relievers or back end starters, but
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Speaker 2: that's not a bad thing to have. And if you
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Speaker 2: look at their list, it is pretty pitching heavy. They
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Speaker 2: don't have a lot of impact power bats. They don't
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Speaker 2: have a lot of impact kind of up the middle
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Speaker 2: defensive players. Most of their catchers have question marks either
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Speaker 2: they can't stay there or want to stay there, or
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Speaker 2: just you know, they'll stay there, but then they're not
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Speaker 2: going to hit. That would be Floores. The impact is
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Speaker 2: just lacking all around. So I could see them building
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Speaker 2: sort of the back of the pitching staff from their
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Speaker 2: own system and then having to go out and spend
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Speaker 2: to get the one or the two, or maybe they
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Speaker 2: go spend to try it. I mean they tried this
17:20
Speaker 2: with Robert Stevenson. Go spend to get the one high
17:23
Speaker 2: leverage reliever for late in games. Maybe Shores can be
17:25
Speaker 2: that guy in a year or two. Obviously he has
17:28
Speaker 2: no problem pitching at a high leverage environment, So I
17:30
Speaker 2: have some hope that he can be that for them,
17:32
Speaker 2: But generally I would say their strength is pitching depth,
17:35
Speaker 2: but not pitching upside.
17:37
Speaker 1: You mentioned that all pitcher draft that was twenty twenty one.
17:40
Speaker 1: The Angels made a lot of headlines with that draft,
17:43
Speaker 1: but looking at it, I mean, can you can you
17:46
Speaker 1: say for certain now is that draft to bust or
17:49
Speaker 1: with Sam Bachman maybe Chase Silseth, can they salvage anything
17:53
Speaker 1: from that draft?
17:56
Speaker 2: I think it was a bust. I mean, it's those
17:59
Speaker 2: guys right Backman and sil Saith at least appeared in
18:01
Speaker 2: the majors. Maybe somebody else gets a cup of coffee.
18:05
Speaker 2: A lot of those guys are out of baseball already,
18:06
Speaker 2: which is really disappointing. It's kind of almost surprising how
18:10
Speaker 2: quickly some of that has turned around. But yeah, I
18:13
Speaker 2: think ultimately it was a bust. It was a bit
18:16
Speaker 2: of a gimmick when they did it, but you know
18:19
Speaker 2: the way we treat pitching and the way pictures get hurt.
18:22
Speaker 2: At this point there is value and just quantity. Just
18:24
Speaker 2: go get as many pictures as you can and sort
18:27
Speaker 2: of let God sort them out. But then you look
18:30
Speaker 2: also at who they were taking to and I mean
18:32
Speaker 2: almost immediately with Kyle Busch, I mean even with Bachmann.
18:35
Speaker 2: Bachman had a terrible medical in college. He had first
18:38
Speaker 2: round stuff, but he had major health concerns even coming
18:42
Speaker 2: out of the draft. And just from there it was like,
18:44
Speaker 2: this guy's probably, this guy's probably, this guy's probably. Right
18:48
Speaker 2: on down the line, it was guys where, even if
18:50
Speaker 2: you thought they were going to stay healthy, they didn't
18:52
Speaker 2: have the stuff or the command or other characteristics that
18:55
Speaker 2: would make them likely to stick in a rotation. I
18:58
Speaker 2: remember even when it got to Marsau and the third rounds,
19:01
Speaker 2: what is what is the philosophy here? What types of
19:04
Speaker 2: guys that are going for? And it was just sort of,
19:06
Speaker 2: let's get guys who can get there quick. And they didn't, right,
19:09
Speaker 2: that's the problem. And then when you take those guys
19:11
Speaker 2: and they don't work out, you have nothing left over afterwards.
19:14
Speaker 1: It's interesting, you know, they've had the same farm director
19:17
Speaker 1: for I think five or more than five years right now. Yeah,
19:20
Speaker 1: can you even say what their philosophy is? Is this
19:23
Speaker 1: a you know, is that a Joey Probinski pick? Is
19:25
Speaker 1: that a you know, a scouting director pick.
19:28
Speaker 2: It's all scouting director right, and I believe they've changed
19:30
Speaker 2: at least once under Perry. It's Tim Acklaman now, and
19:35
Speaker 2: I do think they have changed a bit of the
19:36
Speaker 2: draft philosophy. Just I think even last year two years ago,
19:40
Speaker 2: was riding Christian Moore. It was sort of like, obviously,
19:43
Speaker 2: they're taking Christian Moore, who I had real questions about
19:47
Speaker 2: the bat and honestly the make up, the way. You know,
19:50
Speaker 2: his teammates didn't particularly like him. He should very little
19:52
Speaker 2: effort in the field. That really bothers me. It's like,
19:54
Speaker 2: you are a major draft prospect, We're all watching you.
19:57
Speaker 2: You can play hard for three months. I don't know,
19:59
Speaker 2: it makes me sound old, but that is. It definitely
20:01
Speaker 2: bothered me when I saw him like ground ball up
20:03
Speaker 2: the middle. He was at second base and he literally
20:05
Speaker 2: just went like that, just kind of put his glove
20:08
Speaker 2: up and the ball went right past him. I'm like,
20:10
Speaker 2: we can see you, right, you know, we can see
20:12
Speaker 2: you doing that. But last year I did think their draft,
20:16
Speaker 2: while being pitching heavy, like, there were some upside places.
20:19
Speaker 2: They took Slewinsky, they took CJ. Gray, They took tail
20:21
Speaker 2: On Haley, who, if nothing else, could be one of
20:23
Speaker 2: the best stories in the draft Cancer Survivor had Tommy
20:27
Speaker 2: John A lot of teams didn't want to touch him.
20:29
Speaker 2: They were like the medicals too scary. And the Angels
20:31
Speaker 2: did it, and they went a little bit overslot did
20:33
Speaker 2: it with Xavier and Mitchell. Like there's that They haven't
20:36
Speaker 2: drafted like that ever, Like I cannot think of the
20:38
Speaker 2: last time the Angels had a draft class that looked
20:41
Speaker 2: like this one. And you know, I wish they'd mixed
20:42
Speaker 2: in a few more bats, but I'm okay with it
20:45
Speaker 2: because at least they were going for some upside on
20:48
Speaker 2: the pitching side, which is the dead opposite of that
20:50
Speaker 2: twenty twenty one all pitcher draft class, where it was
20:52
Speaker 2: they were trying to go for floor. They were trying
20:54
Speaker 2: to go for college guys to almost can we draft
20:56
Speaker 2: next year's pitching staff right now? And it didn't work.
20:59
Speaker 2: If this is it doesn't work, at least you can
21:01
Speaker 2: look back and say they went for it, though. They
21:04
Speaker 2: actually took some long shots going for some upside, and
21:07
Speaker 2: they you know, I think in several of these cases
21:09
Speaker 2: they took the right guys. They took some really promising,
21:12
Speaker 2: high upside arms.
21:15
Speaker 3: I think that's very positive and not playing hard is
21:19
Speaker 3: never cool for the youth watching this show. It's immediately
21:25
Speaker 3: a turn off to anyone that's had some experience, and
21:28
Speaker 3: especially people that played, because it's not really that hard
21:31
Speaker 3: and what you're describing, quite frankly, it's hard to listen to.
21:37
Speaker 3: So the form system year after year is ranked in
21:40
Speaker 3: the bottom, whether it's twenty seven to twenty eighth maybe lower.
21:43
Speaker 3: Is this a failure more on the scouting side or
21:48
Speaker 3: on the player development side. I think it's probably both,
21:52
Speaker 3: But I don't know how much faith the Angels have,
21:56
Speaker 3: even from my time they're developing. Pitching was a difficult thing.
22:01
Speaker 3: I don't remember a lot of success stories. There were some,
22:04
Speaker 3: but you look at a guy like Jared Weaver, he
22:06
Speaker 3: was you know, you saw him as well as everyone
22:10
Speaker 3: else did, but he was ready, that was a well
22:14
Speaker 3: polished The first time I saw him, he struck out
22:17
Speaker 3: ten in a row against Long Beach State in three innings,
22:20
Speaker 3: command of all three pitches, you know, and that was
22:24
Speaker 3: a maybe maybe it was a style and this is
22:26
Speaker 3: a little bit of a tangent, but he was a
22:28
Speaker 3: pitcher as opposed to a thrower. It seems like now
22:32
Speaker 3: to fit in you have to as noted by a
22:36
Speaker 3: number of the top prospects are touching triple digits. It
22:38
Speaker 3: seems like a prerequisite to throw in the upper nineties
22:42
Speaker 3: at the expense of command and control. So I guess
22:48
Speaker 3: as far as the player developments, let's hone in on that.
22:51
Speaker 3: Do you think they've done a decent job. Are there
22:54
Speaker 3: some highlighted or players you can highlight that you think
22:56
Speaker 3: they've they've turned into better players along the way, or
23:01
Speaker 3: does it seem like the guys they draft and promote
23:04
Speaker 3: are pretty much untouched.
23:09
Speaker 2: I don't think we've seen a lot of or at
23:11
Speaker 2: least enough success stories for them. Like Zach Nato, it
23:17
Speaker 2: was pretty good when he came out. He's turned out
23:19
Speaker 2: to be even better than expected. So I think at
23:21
Speaker 2: the very least you can point him and say that's
23:23
Speaker 2: their best sort of at least draft success story. Maybe
23:27
Speaker 2: not development side, but certainly there is a draft success
23:30
Speaker 2: story there. I'm going back a little bit, and obviously
23:33
Speaker 2: they just traded Tailorward, but that was another guy where
23:36
Speaker 2: he kind of flopped. Originally it was like was a
23:39
Speaker 2: catcher can't catch and he can't hit enough, and then
23:42
Speaker 2: you know they made him. Credit to the player too
23:45
Speaker 2: I think a lot of credit to the player, but
23:46
Speaker 2: made him into a pretty valuable big leaguer who they
23:48
Speaker 2: were just able to trade essentially one year of his
23:51
Speaker 2: service to get Grayson Rodriguez, who was a pretty good
23:55
Speaker 2: pitching prospect before all the injuries started. And if he's healthy,
24:00
Speaker 2: he's even moderately healthy and can throw one hundred and
24:02
Speaker 2: twenty innings for them, that deal is going to be
24:03
Speaker 2: a huge victory for them. But you just look at
24:06
Speaker 2: the team last year, the players. There weren't a ton
24:09
Speaker 2: of players even on it. I just pulled it up
24:11
Speaker 2: to make sure I'm not missing anyone. The guys they
24:13
Speaker 2: drafted and developed themselves, Jack Kachanowitz and Redebt Meers have
24:18
Speaker 2: they haven't been what was expected of them. They got
24:21
Speaker 2: to the big leagues. That is some success, but they
24:24
Speaker 2: haven't been up to what anybody forecasted for them at
24:27
Speaker 2: the time of the draft. And so much of this
24:29
Speaker 2: roster is guys they got from other organizations. You know,
24:32
Speaker 2: Logan Ohapi, who I was very shocked at how bad
24:36
Speaker 2: his year was. I actually expected quite a bit more
24:38
Speaker 2: from him, but he started somewhere else. So I have
24:42
Speaker 2: a hard time not trying to be overly critical of
24:44
Speaker 2: the organization because have a hard time finding real success
24:47
Speaker 2: stories I can point to and say, yes, this guy
24:49
Speaker 2: came into the Angel system and they made him better.
24:52
Speaker 2: They've had some good draft picks, but a lot of
24:54
Speaker 2: those guys who did succeed did so because they were
24:58
Speaker 2: kind of the Jared Weaver case. I remember talking Eddie
25:00
Speaker 2: Bain years ago. He saw Jared Weaver's like, that guy
25:03
Speaker 2: was ready, Like, I don't get any credit for that.
25:05
Speaker 1: He just was.
25:06
Speaker 2: Eddie was. I'm sure, you know, Eddie like he would.
25:09
Speaker 2: He'll take credit when he really really feels like he've
25:11
Speaker 2: earned it. But a lot of those he was like
25:14
Speaker 2: what he told me flat, He's like Mike trow wasn't
25:15
Speaker 2: the We didn't have number one on the board, so
25:17
Speaker 2: obviously we were wrong. Just happened to be number one
25:20
Speaker 2: when we got to pick. And so you know, with Weaver,
25:23
Speaker 2: he was just waving it aways. Come on, that guy
25:25
Speaker 2: was already a finished product before we even touched him.
25:29
Speaker 1: Are there any sleepers in this Angel system right now?
25:32
Speaker 1: Guys who might not be in your top ten or
25:34
Speaker 1: even twenty, but have the raw tools to someday make
25:39
Speaker 1: a pretty good impact at the big league level.
25:41
Speaker 2: Yeah, nobody be on the top twenty. And I just
25:44
Speaker 2: say that because it was hard to get to twenty
25:46
Speaker 2: in their organization.
25:47
Speaker 1: They were one of the more.
25:48
Speaker 2: Difficult ones certainly.
25:50
Speaker 1: You know.
25:50
Speaker 2: I mentioned in my piece Hayden Alvarez, who I'd bring
25:53
Speaker 2: to eleventh. He's an outfielder who got to Low A
25:56
Speaker 2: last year. He hasn't have a lot of power yet,
26:00
Speaker 2: but he also hasn't really begun to fill out that
26:02
Speaker 2: much physically. But it's center field, it's above average run.
26:05
Speaker 2: He looks like he's got really good feel to hit,
26:08
Speaker 2: which does stand out I think in this system where
26:10
Speaker 2: they've kind of gone for some tools and not necessarily
26:12
Speaker 2: taken guys with present feel to hit, just in terms
26:15
Speaker 2: of like back to ball ability or pitch recognition or
26:17
Speaker 2: ball striker recognition. Everyone talks about swing decisions. To me
26:21
Speaker 2: break it down into a lot of those different components.
26:23
Speaker 2: And he's young, he's far away, but he has shown
26:26
Speaker 2: some of that, and the fact that they moved him
26:28
Speaker 2: up to Low A because everyone's got to get promoted
26:29
Speaker 2: quickly here, and he still managed to put the bat
26:32
Speaker 2: on the ball quite a bit, and he still managed
26:34
Speaker 2: to lay off pitches out of the zone, especially well
26:36
Speaker 2: out of the zone. Those are really good signs for
26:38
Speaker 2: a teenage hitter. So he was the one I identified
26:40
Speaker 2: as a potential sleeper to make a big move up
26:42
Speaker 2: next year, even maybe a little more likely than a
26:46
Speaker 2: guy likes Slewinsky, who I love. But he's high school
26:49
Speaker 2: pitcher who's probably only going to throw, you know, seventy
26:51
Speaker 2: innings this year because we put shackles on all of
26:53
Speaker 2: those guys. And you know, Alvarez will play a full season,
26:56
Speaker 2: starting low A, probably finishing high. If he does well,
26:59
Speaker 2: he could really move up, if not the main top
27:01
Speaker 2: one hundred, at least move up with their internal rankings.
27:05
Speaker 3: I'll take the credit or the heat for this one,
27:09
Speaker 3: but we were asked about him in our Q and
27:10
Speaker 3: A a guy named Sammy and Tarra Junior, left handed
27:14
Speaker 3: a starting pitcher, currently has command issues and also has
27:19
Speaker 3: huge stuff. It seems like he from reading he only
27:22
Speaker 3: started pitching at seventeen years old. I believe he played
27:25
Speaker 3: in the Fall League, had very good numbers strikes out
27:28
Speaker 3: the world, but also has a lot of walks to
27:31
Speaker 3: go along with that. So he's a guy that's going
27:33
Speaker 3: to need a lot of development. I'm not sure if
27:35
Speaker 3: you're familiar with him. If not, you know, I just
27:38
Speaker 3: wanted to make sure we covered him a little bit
27:40
Speaker 3: because his numbers did stand out to me and very raw,
27:44
Speaker 3: so he will need some seasoning. But seems I think
27:47
Speaker 3: he's six' five or so, big you, know projectable body
27:50
Speaker 3: and not a lot of wear on the. Arms so
27:53
Speaker 3: we're going to keep an eye on. Him if you
27:54
Speaker 3: have any comments on, him that would be. Great if
27:56
Speaker 3: you're not, CLEAR i will kind of speak, yeah if
28:00
Speaker 3: you've seen, him that'd be.
28:01
Speaker 1: Awesome i've seen.
28:03
Speaker 2: VIDEO i haven't seen him, alive you, know for folks
28:05
Speaker 2: who don't, know he was a reliever In DOUBLE a
28:07
Speaker 2: And TRIPLE a last. Year it is almost all. Fastball
28:10
Speaker 2: he's got a real high slot where he does get
28:13
Speaker 2: some kind of ride up on the. Fastball it's up
28:15
Speaker 2: to ninety eighty sits more like three and. Four he
28:19
Speaker 2: only has one other. Pitch he has a slider THAT'S
28:22
Speaker 2: i think kind of. FAIR i think he gets some
28:25
Speaker 2: whiffs on the slider because hitters are just they're anticipating.
28:27
Speaker 2: Fastball he throws a fastball more than three quarters of the,
28:30
Speaker 2: time so they're just trying to sit. Fastball and if
28:32
Speaker 2: he spins, IT i don't think he.
28:34
Speaker 1: DOESN'T i know he.
28:35
Speaker 2: Doesn't he just just like kind of average spin rates on.
28:37
Speaker 2: It shape is, okay but they're just looking, fastball and
28:40
Speaker 2: so he does get some whiff on. That the thing
28:43
Speaker 2: that also worries me is hitters don't chase stuff out
28:47
Speaker 2: of the. Zone as you pointed, out the control is
28:49
Speaker 2: not great and hitters aren't following the stuff out of the.
28:52
Speaker 2: Zone so he's not generating a lot of those. Whiffs
28:54
Speaker 2: AND i wonder in the big leagues is because he
28:56
Speaker 2: will pitch in the big. League so pitch in the
28:58
Speaker 2: big leagues this year for, sure does he end up
29:00
Speaker 2: walking too many guys because of whatever, reason it's just
29:03
Speaker 2: not a lot of, deception or because he's not using
29:06
Speaker 2: pitches other than the fastball enough so they feel pretty
29:09
Speaker 2: confidence at fastball and they can guess where it's. Going
29:12
Speaker 2: you got to get guys to chase a little bit
29:13
Speaker 2: more out of the zone to be. Successful is more
29:16
Speaker 2: than maybe like the last guy on the. Staff but
29:17
Speaker 2: because he's left, handed he throws, hard and he has
29:20
Speaker 2: at least nominally has a breaking. Ball he will pitch
29:22
Speaker 2: in the big leagues at some point this, year and
29:25
Speaker 2: there's hope maybe he gets to the big leagues and
29:26
Speaker 2: they work with him and just can tweak the slider
29:29
Speaker 2: even just a little. BIT i don't think it's ever
29:31
Speaker 2: going to be a whiteout, pitch but maybe it's even
29:33
Speaker 2: a matter of just throwing it more, often just to get,
29:35
Speaker 2: hitters to keep hitters from sitting dead red on the
29:37
Speaker 2: fastball all the, time WHICH i think is what got
29:40
Speaker 2: to him a little bit In TRIPLE a last.
29:41
Speaker 1: Year All, right my last question for, You. Keith it's
29:45
Speaker 1: pretty clear right now The angels are not going to
29:48
Speaker 1: spend a ton in free agency to try to turn
29:50
Speaker 1: this thing. Around so you have to point to the
29:53
Speaker 1: farm system as you, know something they need to. Improve
29:57
Speaker 1: is there anything at this point that will Give angels
30:02
Speaker 1: fans some hope that they will be able to develop
30:05
Speaker 1: a few more young players to mix with Zach neto
30:08
Speaker 1: and the guys they, have the core they have that
30:10
Speaker 1: will get them back into contention in the next couple of.
30:13
Speaker 2: Years they're going to need some stars to do, that
30:17
Speaker 2: and that's either going to be spending or they're going
30:19
Speaker 2: to need a breakout from you, know A rata or
30:22
Speaker 2: An alfarez or you, know even A slowinski and that's
30:25
Speaker 2: going to take, time you. KNOW i think this year
30:28
Speaker 2: you'll See bremner pitch in the big, leagues hopefully more
30:30
Speaker 2: towards the end of the, year just because it's The
30:31
Speaker 2: angels and AND i don't think he's super far. AWAY
30:34
Speaker 2: i just think if it depends on how you want
30:36
Speaker 2: to develop, them if you want them there, faster do
30:37
Speaker 2: you want to try to get a little more out of.
30:39
Speaker 2: THEM i think shorts pitches in the big. LEAGUES i
30:41
Speaker 2: Think Ryan johnson returns to the big. Leagues you're going
30:44
Speaker 2: to see some products of the farm system up here
30:47
Speaker 2: in the majors this. Year but if you're thinking what
30:49
Speaker 2: is the timeline to, contention to, me it's three three
30:53
Speaker 2: plus years. Out and it may be also about making
30:58
Speaker 2: the right trade or they get in this year's draft,
31:01
Speaker 2: class can they go Find Especially mark was mentioning there's
31:04
Speaker 2: no power bats anywhere in this. System you got to
31:07
Speaker 2: go get a guy with some thumb who could be your,
31:09
Speaker 2: two three four, hitter or go sign that. Guy but
31:12
Speaker 2: they haven't really shown any inclination to do. That so to,
31:15
Speaker 2: me it says you always want to take the best player.
31:18
Speaker 2: Available but, hey if the best player available happens to
31:21
Speaker 2: be a power bat. Somewhere who you, know maybe a
31:24
Speaker 2: college guy gets there in two. Years that wouldn't be
31:26
Speaker 2: the worst thing in the world to get someone like.
31:28
Speaker 2: That who can you need a new anchor around whom
31:30
Speaker 2: to build your, lineup and they just they don't have
31:32
Speaker 2: that guy right.
31:33
Speaker 1: Now speaking the best player, available you, know they Picked
31:37
Speaker 1: Christian moore AND i believe it was number eight last,
31:39
Speaker 1: year and the ninth Pick Connor griffin showing up as
31:44
Speaker 1: the number one prospect in all of baseball this. Winter
31:48
Speaker 1: are they going to? Regret are they going to the
31:51
Speaker 1: day they've made that?
31:52
Speaker 2: Decision, yeah but they won't be the only, ones RIGHT
31:54
Speaker 2: i think there's you, KNOW i don't think The a's
31:57
Speaker 2: regret Taking Nick kurtz Big league the. Year, sure but
32:02
Speaker 2: there's a couple of TEAMS i think our second guessing their.
32:04
Speaker 2: Evaluations And griffin was a tough. One he didn't hit
32:08
Speaker 2: super well at. Showcases he was a, pitcher, shortstop center.
32:13
Speaker 2: Fielder everyone said he was going to be too big for.
32:15
Speaker 2: SHORTSTOP i saw. HIM i never saw him in high,
32:16
Speaker 2: school BUT i saw him last summer a couple of,
32:20
Speaker 2: times AND i was, like, wait people said this guy
32:22
Speaker 2: couldn't play, shortstop but there's no question he's a. SHORTSTOP
32:25
Speaker 2: i think the industry as a whole was just light on.
32:28
Speaker 2: Him obviously he should have gone one or. Two, so,
32:31
Speaker 2: yes The angels will regret, it but so they'll have
32:33
Speaker 2: plenty Of there'll be like plenty of other people at the. Meeting,
32:36
Speaker 2: yes high. End i'm The, angels AND i didn't Pick Connor.
32:39
Speaker 2: Griffin there'll be plenty of other people.
32:40
Speaker 1: There all, right that's WHAT i.
32:42
Speaker 3: Think go, Ahead, Mark, no just you had SAID i
32:46
Speaker 3: Think Connor griffin comes From. Mississippi, yes, okay so he
32:51
Speaker 3: notoriously maybe not a great place for high school.
32:53
Speaker 1: Players and, yeah, yeah, yeah you know is Bad New.
33:01
Speaker 3: Jersey Trout millville also maybe not a. POWERHOUSE i know
33:05
Speaker 3: on a previous podcast a week, ago you had said
33:07
Speaker 3: you didn't when you Saw. TROUT i think the field
33:10
Speaker 3: might have been in poor. SHAPE i don't know if
33:13
Speaker 3: there was snow or if it.
33:14
Speaker 2: Was sprain so much that. SPRING i have water in my.
33:18
Speaker 2: Bottom it would have a, basement, basement our ground floor.
33:22
Speaker 1: Room water was.
33:22
Speaker 2: Coming it was the worst. Spring it was so, bad
33:26
Speaker 2: and it was you, KNOW i remember seeing. HIM i
33:28
Speaker 2: was like he is a good. RUNNER i know he
33:30
Speaker 2: was like a freaking track star. UP i, MEAN i
33:33
Speaker 2: always joked it's LIKE i was looking At Mickey. MANTLE
33:35
Speaker 2: i had no idea he was. Good the best THING
33:37
Speaker 2: i could tell you About trout that years he TOOK
33:39
Speaker 2: bp with wood before every. Game he missed a bunch
33:42
Speaker 2: of games that spring because there was so much. Rain
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Speaker 2: BUT i watched him hit with. WOOD i remember, thinking
33:46
Speaker 2: what's exactly the same. Swing it's Exactly that's just what
33:49
Speaker 2: you want to, see, right he picked the metal out
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Speaker 2: of his, hands gets the wood, back looks totally the.
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Speaker 2: SAME i thought he was a really good. PLAYER i
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Speaker 2: had no idea he was A hall Of, famer. Right
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Speaker 2: obviously the industry, missed SO i don't feel too bad about.
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Speaker 2: It but it's weird to see a guy and be, like,
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Speaker 2: NO i missed his. Speed that's the easy, thing, Right
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Speaker 2: those are pretty that's pretty easy to pick. Up it's
34:09
Speaker 2: like going to see a pitcher who throws a hundred and, saying,
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Speaker 2: well his fastball's. Okay THAT'S i will forever feel like
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Speaker 2: that About Mike.
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Speaker 3: TROUT i think her memory that ends. Out, Sorry, mike
34:20
Speaker 3: one more with the first TIME i saw. HIM i
34:24
Speaker 3: got sent down from big league, camp was, PLAYING i
34:29
Speaker 3: think For Salt lake that, year and we had an
34:31
Speaker 3: inner squad, day SO i wanted to go to look
34:33
Speaker 3: at the first round pick my trout about twenty, ten
34:37
Speaker 3: And i'm watching the game going on on the other.
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Speaker 3: FIELD a ball loway And hya he comes up and
34:42
Speaker 3: hits laces a single up the middle when there used
34:45
Speaker 3: to be a hole, there and you know it WAS
34:48
Speaker 3: i saw a, nice compact. Stroke he hit the ball.
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Speaker 3: Hard WHAT i didn't expect is that he just did
34:53
Speaker 3: not stop running the center. Field he did not bobble,
34:56
Speaker 3: it he did not make an. Error it was one
34:57
Speaker 3: of the strangest Things i've seen him do a lot
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Speaker 3: of cool, stuff hit tower and home, runs all these,
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Speaker 3: catches but that memory and he was safe at second
35:06
Speaker 3: he had hit a double on a routine single AND
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Speaker 3: i just couldn't grasp WHAT i was looking. At it
35:12
Speaker 3: didn't make, sense And i've never been able. To that's
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Speaker 3: always if people ask what you, know and that that
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Speaker 3: memory for for so when you had, said you, know
35:20
Speaker 3: you didn't see the, speed that's ALL i can ever, think,
35:23
Speaker 3: Right and you, know he's trended towards a guy that's
35:26
Speaker 3: not running as much, now but that it was in
35:29
Speaker 3: his body. Type you, know he doesn't have the long
35:32
Speaker 3: legs and it's kind of got a unique body. Type
35:34
Speaker 3: but he could really turn the feed over and get
35:38
Speaker 3: up to speed as quick as ANYONE i had.
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Speaker 1: Seen, yep.
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Speaker 2: An. Anime he did. That he laid, loop you, know
35:46
Speaker 2: not as particularly hard hit. SINGLE i feel like it
35:48
Speaker 2: was maybe out to left, center and he just never
35:50
Speaker 2: stop running it up on second base in front of
35:52
Speaker 2: the home crowd, too which is pretty.
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Speaker 1: Awesome they did not call him The millville media or for.
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Speaker 1: NOTHING i can tell you. That all, right that is
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Speaker 1: going to do it for us On Halo territory, Today
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Speaker 1: Keith Law really thank you for joining. Us really appreciate your,
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