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Remembering Live Aid · Stuff You Should Know

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff You Should Know, a production of five
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  Speaker 1: Heart Radios How Stuff Works. Hey, and welcome to the podcast.
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  Speaker 1: I'm Josh Clark, and there's Charles w Chuck Bryant, and
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  Speaker 1: there's Jerry over there, and this is Stuff you Know
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  Speaker 1: and nice, I think we should say what just happened
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  Speaker 1: off Mike because as Jerry does once every three hundred episodes,
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  Speaker 1: she realizes what we're recording on and has an actual
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  Speaker 1: comment about it, right, and this is about Live Aid,
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  Speaker 1: And she went, I was in London when Live Aid happened,
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  Speaker 1: And Josh said, did you go? Jerry said, no, I
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  Speaker 1: didn't know what was happening because we forget in there
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  Speaker 1: wasn't an internet blast like Live Aid was a big deal.
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  Speaker 1: But little Jerry, a little twelve year old Jerry in London,
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  Speaker 1: doesn't know what's going on. To get any info, you
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  Speaker 1: have to go down to the corner and look at
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  Speaker 1: the telephone poll and see what somebody's staple there, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: or go to hear the town crier on his uh
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  Speaker 1: soapbox in the park Hyde Park. So it was a
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  Speaker 1: very anticlimactic story because it led to nothing. But like anyway,
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  Speaker 1: I was there, I was twelve yeah, I had no
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  Speaker 1: controller agency over my life. Probably true. But Jerry, had
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  Speaker 1: you been just three years older, you might have been
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  Speaker 1: pulled up on stage with Bono to dance to dance
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  Speaker 1: to dancing um in the dark. No, that was Bruce Springsteen.
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  Speaker 1: He did not play Live Aid. Did you know? It
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  Speaker 1: was Courtney Cox? All right? Sure it was not real.
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  Speaker 1: It was set up. She was an actor. Stills. I
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  Speaker 1: thought it was just coincidence. But yeah. One of the
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  Speaker 1: most famous moments of Live Aid was when Bono and
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  Speaker 1: We'll get there. But I watched it again today, Man,
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  Speaker 1: I got a little teary, did you It was such
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  Speaker 1: a great moment. Oh, I just wanted to be like Bonno, stop, No,
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  Speaker 1: that's what everyone in the band was doing. I'm sure
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  Speaker 1: it was like edge. You could ed still had hair before.
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  Speaker 1: He just started wearing beanies all the time. And they
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  Speaker 1: were playing the great song Bad and they did like
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  Speaker 1: a seventeen minute version of their like twenty two minutes set.
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  Speaker 1: Because Bono wanted to dance with a girl, and he
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  Speaker 1: finally jumped down onto the floor of Wimbley Stadium got
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  Speaker 1: this young fifteen year old girl dance with her for
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  Speaker 1: like fifteen seconds, took another five minutes to get back
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  Speaker 1: to the stage, because that's how long it takes to
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  Speaker 1: get back up on stage. Starts crossing his face as
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  Speaker 1: he realized what's going on and edges up there, and
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  Speaker 1: Adam Clayton has his big white afro, and uh, Larry
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  Speaker 1: Mullin still looked identical as he always has. And yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and they just played that same riff from Bad over
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  Speaker 1: and over and over, and they were a little mad
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  Speaker 1: because he only got to do two songs. They were
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  Speaker 1: gonna close with Pride in the Name of Love, which
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  Speaker 1: everybody like wanted to hear. Sure, it was a big hit,
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  Speaker 1: you know, they were a young band at the time,
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  Speaker 1: but it was on and the band was a little miffed.
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  Speaker 1: But in as it turns out, that became one of
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  Speaker 1: the iconic moments of live aid and it really launched
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  Speaker 1: YouTube into the stratosphere, which I mean, Bonno looked out
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  Speaker 1: on that one because I imagine backstage right after that
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  Speaker 1: set was not a pleasant place. Dude, what it's not
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  Speaker 1: about you? Yeah, what are you doing? But it was
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  Speaker 1: a nice moment, he said, I really wanted to dance
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  Speaker 1: with that fifteen year old girl. I know. It was
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  Speaker 1: very sweet. Her name is cal Collique, and she says
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  Speaker 1: that she was getting kind of smushed and that that
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  Speaker 1: kind of helped her out with security, like pulling her
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  Speaker 1: by her hair over the barrier. Yeah, it doesn't look
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  Speaker 1: very comfortable. It was rough. I should probably say at
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  Speaker 1: this point, or we should a lot of the stuff
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  Speaker 1: we're talking about you can go see. Yeah. I was
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  Speaker 1: actually when I was researching this, I was like, what
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  Speaker 1: a time to be allowed? Man? I was just pouring
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  Speaker 1: through these videos. Yeah, you can just go watch. Most
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  Speaker 1: of the stuff we're talking about is out there on YouTube.
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  Speaker 1: So if if you ever just go what pause to YouTube?
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  Speaker 1: Why o you two ub dot com type in L
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  Speaker 1: I V E dash A I D. Yeah, you don't
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  Speaker 1: even need the dash. Their their algorithm is that smart.
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  Speaker 1: They don't know what you're talking about, and um start
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  Speaker 1: watching videos. Yeah, I watched a bunch. We should just
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  Speaker 1: talk about some of the ones through the episode that
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  Speaker 1: we watched. The last thing I watched before we got
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  Speaker 1: up to record was Sabbath. I didn't watch that one,
• 4:23
  Speaker 1: the Sabbath reunion. Uh. And we'll also say this was
• 4:27
  Speaker 1: so when you think man Zeppelin reunion, Sabbath Reunion, what
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  Speaker 1: that really means is like chubby, big haired AUSI and
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  Speaker 1: like Robert Plant wearing like electric blue pants. He was
• 4:41
  Speaker 1: just like Slater from Saved by the Bell. Yeah, it's
• 4:45
  Speaker 1: a big fat eighties reminder, Like, oh right, that's what
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  Speaker 1: people look like. Even John Deacon from Queen had like
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  Speaker 1: a big puffy, pleaded outfit. Was like they had the
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  Speaker 1: eighties flag. But I was fourteen, and I think I've
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  Speaker 1: told this story before, but I was babysitting. I had
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  Speaker 1: an every day summer babysitting gig as a fourteen year
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  Speaker 1: old babysitting these two kids that were like seventeen and nineteen. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: they were pretty close to my age looking back, they
• 5:18
  Speaker 1: were probably like eight and nine or something close. So
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  Speaker 1: I was sort of like paid to go there and
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  Speaker 1: kind of hang out with them and make sure they
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  Speaker 1: didn't get in trouble. It wasn't like babysitting babysitting, But
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  Speaker 1: I remember I watched virtually all of the Live Aid
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  Speaker 1: telecast on MTV and was just stuck to it all
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  Speaker 1: day long. I was I was nine. Yeah, uh, and
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  Speaker 1: we were in London, but I didn't count. But you
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  Speaker 1: and Jerry were in Hyde Park hanging out She's like,
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  Speaker 1: there's this annoying nine year old just following me around
• 5:50
  Speaker 1: talking about podcasts. Says he's from the future, something about
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  Speaker 1: a way back machine. Um. So yeah, thanks to Julia Layton,
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  Speaker 1: who we have uh doing some writing for us now.
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  Speaker 1: Dr Late's from back in the old day. She's great
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  Speaker 1: and writes great stuff. And I threw Live Aid out
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  Speaker 1: there because I thought it'd be good to learn a
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  Speaker 1: little bit more about it. It was a good idea. Thanks.
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  Speaker 1: So let's talk about the origins of this, Yes, because
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  Speaker 1: Live Aid happened on July and um, the whole thing started.
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  Speaker 1: The seed was planted about six months before, well a
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  Speaker 1: little more than six months before, but not much more
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  Speaker 1: than that, when either the BBC or the CBC, depending
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  Speaker 1: on who you asked, ran a series of documentaries about
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  Speaker 1: a drought and famine that was going on in Ethiopia
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  Speaker 1: at the time. And apparently no one knew about this,
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  Speaker 1: No one was reporting on it, It wasn't talked about.
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  Speaker 1: And today it's hard to imagine that with our news cycle,
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  Speaker 1: but it was different back then, right, but even still,
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  Speaker 1: like you know, we we we became so indoctrinated from
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  Speaker 1: that point on, and the idea of famine in Ethiopia.
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  Speaker 1: UM that that it's hard to think of, you know,
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  Speaker 1: not connecting the two. But no one knew about it,
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  Speaker 1: and no one knew about it until I should say
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  Speaker 1: that the CBC or BBC documentary series UM was aired
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  Speaker 1: and it was powerful. There was a very famously a
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  Speaker 1: young girl, UM, let me see if I can find
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  Speaker 1: her name? Who was She looked like she was on
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  Speaker 1: the verge of death. Her head just kind of lulling around.
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  Speaker 1: She's skeletal, um and she she looks like at the
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  Speaker 1: camera at one point and became kind of the face
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  Speaker 1: of starving children in Ethiopia. Like really drove home, um,
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  Speaker 1: what what was going on there. Her name was beer
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  Speaker 1: Hahn will Do and she's grown now and is an
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  Speaker 1: ambassador kind of like I don't think she's an official Inbastador,
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  Speaker 1: she's kind of an unofficial ambassador for poverty, combating poverty
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  Speaker 1: and hunger. Well she I bet she knows. I'm guaranteed
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  Speaker 1: she does. But but she really kind of drove home
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  Speaker 1: what was going on to viewers, including a guy from
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  Speaker 1: Ireland named Bob Geldof Yeah, who Julia refers to as
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  Speaker 1: a b list Irish rocker. It's probably pretty accurate. The
• 8:18
  Speaker 1: Boomtown Rats were a medium big band at best. Uh.
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  Speaker 1: He Also, if you're a Pink Floyd fan, uh, he
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  Speaker 1: played Pink in the movie The Wall. Yeah. I think
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  Speaker 1: you told me this every time, Bob Gelk we talked
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  Speaker 1: about this before. Obviously there was no Pink in real life,
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  Speaker 1: but in the movie that was a character named Pink
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  Speaker 1: by the way, which one's pink right exactly. Um So, Geldof,
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  Speaker 1: they had that great song. Uh, I don't know why
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  Speaker 1: I don't like one day's Pink Floyd did. That was
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  Speaker 1: the Motown Rats, my friend. Yeah, that we got that
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  Speaker 1: one plenty wrong. That was their big hit though. That
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  Speaker 1: was Geldof's big hit, which again I thought was an
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  Speaker 1: Elvis Costello song until I explained it to me. That's
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  Speaker 1: we definitely we've talked about that, right, So, um man,
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  Speaker 1: I wonder if twenty years so we're going to be
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  Speaker 1: like remember when we Yeah, yeah, it's already happened to Chuck,
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  Speaker 1: but we don't sound like Abe Simpson quite yet. So
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  Speaker 1: Geldof saw this, really spoke to him, and he said,
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  Speaker 1: here's what we're gonna do. I want to put together
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  Speaker 1: a fundraiser. And this is not Live Aid yet. No,
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  Speaker 1: this is band Aid right, previous to Live Aid. Uh.
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  Speaker 1: They did the song that we some of us all
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  Speaker 1: still love it around Christmas times. A good song, some
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  Speaker 1: of us hate it? Who does? Do they know? It's Christmas?
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  Speaker 1: Who hates that song? I think some people hate all
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  Speaker 1: Christmas music? Yeah, you know, or or the very least
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  Speaker 1: gets sick of certain songs. I can see that. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: but that one is okay. Let me put it this way.
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  Speaker 1: I have never gotten sick of that one yet to
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  Speaker 1: this day. No, I agree, um bono of course. Boy
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  Speaker 1: George Bowie Banana Rama, Duran Duran, Wham you two Sting,
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  Speaker 1: Phil Collins, you name it. Uh. They were sign on
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  Speaker 1: that song and it benefited Ethiopian famine relief. That's what
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  Speaker 1: got the ball rolling. Yeah, and again this was Bob
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  Speaker 1: Geldof saw this documentary and started calling up everybody he knew,
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  Speaker 1: pulling all these strings and put this together. And everyone
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  Speaker 1: was going, how did Geldoff get my number? Exac list
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  Speaker 1: Cyrus Rocker? Right? He he got this single produced and
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  Speaker 1: released by December. He saw the documentary in October, So
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  Speaker 1: that kind of gives you a hint. Of the kind
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  Speaker 1: of dude Bob Geldolf was. He gets things done. He lied,
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  Speaker 1: he bluffed, he didn't take no for an answer. He
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  Speaker 1: got things done, sure, but to him, it was always
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  Speaker 1: for the greatest, greater good. The there was a the
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  Speaker 1: ends definitely justified the means, especially if it manipulating spoiled rockers. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and we'll get to someone more some more of that later,
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  Speaker 1: he for sure did. Uh. That song itself though, by
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  Speaker 1: itself raise more than ten million bucks, and they have
• 10:56
  Speaker 1: over the years done a few different versions. It seems
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  Speaker 1: like they updated every now and then with with new
• 11:01
  Speaker 1: whoever's the hot British rockers are at the time? Ed Sheeran, right,
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  Speaker 1: he he was in the two thousand and fourteen version.
• 11:10
  Speaker 1: So was one direction. Okay, Um, they're the group, right, yeah, Okay,
• 11:15
  Speaker 1: they're a supergroup. Oh uh and then uh, well, I
• 11:19
  Speaker 1: don't know if that's actually accurate or not, but then seal,
• 11:22
  Speaker 1: you know, supergroup doesn't just mean they're super that means
• 11:24
  Speaker 1: right now, that's why I correct. Uh, And then uh
• 11:29
  Speaker 1: shenand O'Connor, she was on it two on the New
• 11:32
  Speaker 1: York Ones. The two fourteen version of Do They Know?
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  Speaker 1: It was Christmas. Um So a month after that, Harry
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  Speaker 1: Belafonte got together with a producer named Ken Kragan or Craigan,
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  Speaker 1: and they said, well, we need to do our own
• 11:47
  Speaker 1: version over here in the US because we're looking pretty
• 11:49
  Speaker 1: bad geld Off as a B list Irish rocker and
• 11:52
  Speaker 1: he's getting all the limelight. I'm Harry Belafonte, right, So
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  Speaker 1: he gets together and they um, this is where and
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  Speaker 1: this is something I never knew The song We Are
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  Speaker 1: the World, of course, is what we're talking about. I
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  Speaker 1: always heard USA for Africa. I always thought it was
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  Speaker 1: United States of America. That's what they wanted you to think.
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  Speaker 1: I never knew that it stood for United Support of
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  Speaker 1: Artists for Africa until today or yesterday. Well there you
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  Speaker 1: how about that. I think it's a great thing that
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  Speaker 1: they surreptitiously slipped that in. And that song was um
• 12:24
  Speaker 1: you know. Quincy Jones famously worked on it. It was written.
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  Speaker 1: It was supposed to be written by Lionel Richie, Michael
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  Speaker 1: Jackson and Stevie Wonder. Stevie Wonder was too wanted to
• 12:34
  Speaker 1: work on it, but it was a little too busy
• 12:36
  Speaker 1: to get involved in the writing at the time, so
• 12:38
  Speaker 1: it fell the line on Richie and Michael Jackson, and apparently,
• 12:42
  Speaker 1: if you believe LaToya Jackson, it was mostly Michael who
• 12:45
  Speaker 1: put that song together. I don't know about that, man,
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  Speaker 1: because Lionel Richie's a pretty stand up dude from everything
• 12:50
  Speaker 1: I've ever heard. Well, I don't think he's made some
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  Speaker 1: claim like I wrote half fifty of that song. Uh.
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  Speaker 1: He was apparently pretty blown away because Michael Jackson, like
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  Speaker 1: after he'd left, went ahead and like cut a demo
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  Speaker 1: and brought it back and he was like, oh, well
• 13:05
  Speaker 1: that's impressive and exclusionary, right yeah, yeah, yeah, good ideas. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: go go home. It's like he literally waited till I
• 13:14
  Speaker 1: walked out the door to hit record. Uh. I'd like
• 13:18
  Speaker 1: to see Linel Richie. I just looked up his he
• 13:21
  Speaker 1: played somewhere and I was like, what's he playing these days?
• 13:23
  Speaker 1: I looked up his set list. Is he coming to
• 13:25
  Speaker 1: chest thing anytimes? I don't know, man, but the set
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  Speaker 1: list is amazing. I'm like every single song because he's
• 13:30
  Speaker 1: doing Commodore stuff, he's doing his own stuff. It's really
• 13:34
  Speaker 1: it seems like a fun show. A little bit of
• 13:36
  Speaker 1: deep purple. Oh sure, um, do we take a break already. No,
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  Speaker 1: we haven't, Chuck, and I think it's high time that
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  Speaker 1: we did. All right, let's do it. So where we
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  Speaker 1: left off Charles was, I guess probably by this time
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  Speaker 1: about January in USA for Africa, which does not stand
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  Speaker 1: for USA like you think released We Are the World
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  Speaker 1: because they were inspired by because you know, it's Christmas
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  Speaker 1: at all. And apparently boy George had an idea of
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  Speaker 1: going bigger and said to Geldof, look, mate, you did
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  Speaker 1: pretty good. You raised ten million dollars. You inspired USA
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  Speaker 1: for Africa, which raised like forty four million dollars within
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  Speaker 1: a year. But you can do more. What if you
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  Speaker 1: put on like the biggest concert ever? Maybe you should
• 14:45
  Speaker 1: do that. Boy George out vanishing a puff of smoke
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  Speaker 1: like he does. I'd like to see boy George too.
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  Speaker 1: I bet that's a fun show. You and I saw
• 14:55
  Speaker 1: Culture Club. They were good, how long like the last
• 15:00
  Speaker 1: few years? I guess, yeah, like the last two years.
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  Speaker 1: It was at the original dudes, yes, as far as
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  Speaker 1: you know, as far as I know. Yeah, And I
• 15:08
  Speaker 1: actually learned at that show that we are never to
• 15:12
  Speaker 1: let on that we're tired, because this is the penultimate
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  Speaker 1: show of the tour and boy George kept talking about
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  Speaker 1: it to the guitars about one more show after this,
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  Speaker 1: and it's not a good looks I still have boy George,
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: but yes, it does not come off very well to
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  Speaker 1: the audience. Well, I'm not tired. I feel great. That's
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  Speaker 1: because we do two shows back to back once a quarter.
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: Oh you mean live live, Sure, we can talk about
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  Speaker 1: anything here. It's the live stuff. Uh. I want to
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: go see Adam and the Ants too. I've been checking
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: out their touring again around. I don't know. I mean
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: it's Adam Ant for sure. I don't know if it's
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: any of the original ants. Would you know the difference? No,
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: but he's doing great too. Sure. So I got like
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: seeing these people coming back around healthy and like the
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: eighties did not kill them. Oh, they're really taking a
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  Speaker 1: lot of dietary souff, a lot of botanicals. So, like
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: you said, uh, from the point where uh do they
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  Speaker 1: know it's Christmas? In the in the Famine documentary started
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  Speaker 1: rolling out. It was not very long after that they
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  Speaker 1: managed to pull off a concert in London and Philadelphia,
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  Speaker 1: transmitted by thirteen satellites to a hundred and sixty countries,
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  Speaker 1: to an audience that was twenty five of the world's population.
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  Speaker 1: I saw at one point that they announced that of
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  Speaker 1: the world's televisions were tuned in at some point that broadcast.
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  Speaker 1: That's amazing, It is amazing, and that's amazing today. It
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  Speaker 1: was spectacular in Yeah, and by comparison, the Summer Olympics
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  Speaker 1: the year before was only broadcast to sixty seven countries. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: ninety ninety, sorry, sixty seven countries, and live aid was
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  Speaker 1: a hundred and sixty. So just we cannot overestimate how
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  Speaker 1: huge of a deal this was, right, and it just
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  Speaker 1: really kind of show off but also to kind of
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  Speaker 1: buying the Western world together. It was held, like you said,
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  Speaker 1: at two places at once, in London and in Philadelphia,
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  Speaker 1: and there were there were concerts going on constantly in
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  Speaker 1: both places. In the show, what you would see on TV,
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: what you watched in your babysitting would just kind of
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: switched back and forth depending on who had the bigger
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  Speaker 1: act at the time. These days you could probably do
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  Speaker 1: a split screen or they would just show both in
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  Speaker 1: on two channels. Yeah, But the fact that they were
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: doing it at a time when, as Julia Layton puts it,
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  Speaker 1: you know, during a time of cassette tapes and cathode
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  Speaker 1: ray tube TVs. It's just really impressive that they that
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  Speaker 1: Bob Geldoff managed to put it together and help pull
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  Speaker 1: it off with very little problem. Yeah, it was in
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  Speaker 1: just a few months to sixteen hours total for both
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  Speaker 1: of the shows. Uh, they overlapped by about ten hours. Um.
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  Speaker 1: And then there are also various satellite concerts going on
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  Speaker 1: all over the world. Um with now you know, they
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  Speaker 1: didn't have like sixty performers, but you know, smaller shows
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  Speaker 1: kind of stage in conjunction. Yeah. Like I got the
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  Speaker 1: impression that people who had already booked their tours and
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  Speaker 1: were locked into a tour date but still wanted to
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: take part showing. Yeah, like Selene Dion, like doing a
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: number from Las Vegas on on New Year's Eve or something.
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: So it all kicked off at twelve noon London time,
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: seven am in the US. Um, the Coldstream Guards played
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: God Save the Queen. Charles and Diana came out on stage.
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: I know that that makes it pretty cool. It is
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: pretty cool. Did Diana park? Yeah, of course, what no
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: love for Charles? I mean sure, but he's still around.
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: He's not a live aid type, you know what. I mean,
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: I think he irons his jeans. I don't think he
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: wears jeans right, Um, you know why because he doesn't iron. Yeah,
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: he could probably find somebody to iron for him if
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: he wanted to. So they take the stage of Whimley.
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: They inaugurate Live Aid and then wait, hold on, was
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: that a joker? A reference that just went over my head?
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: What thing? Yeah? Okay, because I'm getting like intel and
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: feedback from listeners once awhile who right in was like
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: that was a hilarious reference. Chuck me, that went right
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: over Josh's head. I hate that really. Yes, you can't
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: get all the references. I want to get all the references.
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: So do this from no one. Okay, Josh is blinking
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: at me. Everyone, So to kick it off in anti dramatic,
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: climactic fashion. That's that's not very cool to say. The
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: bands status Quo was the first band. They were big
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: in England. I guess they were, but they were legendary.
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: I think their first hit single was in and this
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: is They've been around the place, and dude, they got
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: it off. Like if you watch Status Quo covering John
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: Fogerty's Rocking all over the World Old, which I did,
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: like the stadium is bouncing with energy. So they were
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: clearly popular over there. They were just never big in
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: the States. But they still did a fine job. No,
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: it was fine, an adequate work. Been like way to
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: kick off live, that's right? Uh? And who kicked it
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: off in the US? Josh Uh? It was Joan Bayes,
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: why not right? Who came out and was like, this
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: is your wood stocks long overdue? And they went who
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: are you? And she sang an acapella version of Amazing Grace,
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: kind of clumsily, leading the audience by singing very quickly
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: the next line and then singing that same line in
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: the American Amazing Grace melody. That really is clunky. It
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: was slightly clunky. Yeah, but you know it's a good
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: way to start the show. Sure it was amazing Grace
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: status quo and Joan Bayez clunkily singing amazing Grace. It
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: got better from there, basically, well it did. There were
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: seventy as. Every act had twenty minutes with was more
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: or less how long they played. A few bands went
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: over by a few minutes. But it's not if you've
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: ever done a festival or something, it's like it's not
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: cool too to just be like, we'll do one more tune.
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: That's just not something you do. I've never played a festival,
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: but I can imagine now we've done festival stuff when
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: we do sketch Fest every year. Oh yeah, that's right.
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: You did Outside Lands by yourself. Sure, but I didn't
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: have the impression. Oh yeah, they did kind of hustle
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: me out of there. I was like, what else you
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: got in the green room and they're like, just go
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: you're right, okay, all right, I got you. I thought
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: you were like at the end of your end of
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: the World thing, you were like, hey, anyone want to
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: hear something about like get them off um Phil Collins.
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: And this was a very big deal and a total
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: publicity stunt, but it worked. He and I think we
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: mentioned this in the Concord episode. He played both continents
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: and they had a film crew following me around. They
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: would cut to every once in a while, like Phil
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: Collins on the plane or hustling through an airport. There
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: is no better singer than or now to have done this.
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: Maybe probably right, maybe James Cordon would have would be
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: the go to person, but this is Phil Collins. Yeah yeah,
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: I mean, like, no cynicism, no rock star, and he
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: was kind of goofy and fun that guy. I think
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: you're totally right. He's playing again too, which is great news.
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: I didn't know that, yeah, because he he wasn't able
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: to play drums for a while and he's he's back
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: at it. What happened he I can't remember exactly what
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: it is, but he had some illness. Uh, I can't
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: remember exactly what, but where he like wasn't performing and
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: didn't think he would again. Oh boy, Yeah, So it's
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: kind of cool he's back out there again. He's great.
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: SU studio ended up. That's awesome because of the twenty
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: minutes sets. Some bands got you know, like you two
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: only got into songs um generally it was about three.
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: Some bands like Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers with their
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: tight don't borus get to the chorus? They got in four?
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: Uh oh did they? Yeah? They're set was epic. It's great.
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: Who somebody had like five? I counted, well, Queen did
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: sort of some Medley's and so they ended up getting
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: more songs in there that way. There's somebody else though
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: I can't quite put my finger out, sorry everybody, but
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: I saw it. I was like, Wow, it's a lot
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: more songs, and it seems like everybody else had they're
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: probably hurry up, hurry up, no banter. Um. So a
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: hundred and seventy thousand people total were live at the
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: two shows, but like we said, in the world one
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: point five billion people watched it as it was happening.
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: Pretty amazing. So on the actual day of the show, uh,
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: you you already kicked it off right. It started in
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: London and then started in Philadelphia two hours later Status
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: Quo and Joan Bias, and then there was overlap for
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: like ten hours I think, yeah, ten of the sixteen hours,
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: and then it went afterward it went to went back
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: to Philadelphia. But chuck, um, you saw Bohemian Rhapsody right
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: three times? Did you really see it three times? That's adorable? Um.
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: So that part at the end when they recreate live
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: AISI have you did you see the YouTube video of
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: the Live Aid version and the Bohemian Rhpsody version. I
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: did not watch the side by side comparison because it
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: is pretty close. Yeah, I mean I've watched that live
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: Aid performance dozens and dozens of times. Yeah, and they
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: nailed it. Um. The thing that bothered me about that
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: movie was how much they rewrote the timeline in the band,
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: so it was not Queen's first performance back, and like
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: they had just reunited and forgiven each other and he
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: had just told them about HIV, like none of that
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: the timeline so out of whack. Supposedly he didn't know
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: he had HIV yet at the Live AIG show. I
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: can't remember exactly. Was that pretty sure? But I mean
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: a lot of like they took a lot of license
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: and you know, it's fine, you're trying to make a
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: more dramatic film. I get it, but I don't if
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: it needed it because that performance itself. Still if you
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: look up any what were the best performances of Live Aid,
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: it's almost roundly, Um Queen is in the number one spot. Yeah,
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: not just Live Aid. Like a lot of people point
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: to that as like one of the greatest mini sets ever. Know,
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: the BBC did a poll in two thousand five and
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: that was named as the number one greatest rock performance
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: of all time. That is really great. Just gave me chills,
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: pretty amazing. I got chills right now, not even watching it,
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: just hearing you talk about a BBC poll or if
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: you're a medium writer. The article said it was like
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: Adam touching God on the Sistine Chapel ceiling, Ben Franklin
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: wielding a lightning rod, or ET phoning home. Man, they
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: had me right up until the last one right there.
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: That's just so like, come on, just say it's great.
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: I didn't get the last It's like e T phoning home. Yeah,
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: Like I really tried to go on the writer's head too,
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: and I was like, no, if that was personal, Yeah,
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: that person really was moved by ET phone at home
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: or something. What else do we get? We got a
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: lot of anytime you have a big thing like this,
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: you have a lot of people collaborating on stage. Sting
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: and dire straits of course. Well yeah, Mick Jaggerantina Turner,
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: that was pretty unforgettable. But not just Mick Jaggarantina Turner,
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: because it turns out that Tommy Matola, who's the head
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: of Sony Records, said hey, if you don't get Hall
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: and Oates on with Mick Jagger, Mick Jagger's not going on,
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: And Hall and Oates backed up Tina Turner and Mick Jagger.
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, see I thought that they were saying, if
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: you don't give Holland Oates a primetime slot. Then they're not.
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: Then Mick Jagger won't come because he represented both. I
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: think that that was there. They they equivocated by saying
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: we'll have him back up Mick Jagger and Tina Turner.
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: And even still if you look up Hall and Oates,
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: it just comes up Mick Jaggerantina to Earner. They're not
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: even listed in the video anymore. But at least John
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: Oates was back in then them up. Yeah, I'm pretty
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: sure Darryl Hall was too. Man. They were good. Yeah,
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: still are Yeah. Emily One saw them a couple of
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: years ago, just killing it. Still. Yeah, it's good stuff.
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: I like that. Live at Darrell's house too, that show. Uh,
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: I haven't seen that. I don't know if he's still
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: doing it, but he did it for a few years
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: at least, and it's basically his awesome home studio. He
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: just test people over and a camera crew and they
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: just jam and do songs. They'll do like a hollow
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: note song and then mainly the songs of the artist.
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: I feel like I've seen them. It's fun since they've
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: been back around. Definitely saw Tears for Fears, well, they
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: played with them that might have been. Yeah, we didn't
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: stick around for Holling Notes, and I think the reason
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: why is because we had seen Holly Notes already. Yeah,
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: like what happened in my brain? Uh, Phil Collins. They
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: got a lot out of Phil Collins because not only
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: did he sing in both he played drums with Eric Clapton,
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: he played drums with Led Zeppelin. Yeah. So let's talk
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: about that Zeppelin performance. You can't dance around this any longer, Chuck.
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: It was not very good. It was terrible. Yeah. Like
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: if you if you saw Led Zeppelin in like a
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: fifty person club and they've been drinking at the club
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: the whole day, this is what you would expect to
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: hear from it, you'd probably be like, that was awesome. Yeah,
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: but for the first time back on stage together in
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: five years since the death of their drummer, they went
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: out at like their peak. There wasn't a decline of
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: led Zeppelin. They were at their peak when Bonham died.
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: According to me, Um, you don't think so. I think
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: their last album was kind of a disappointment. What was
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: that physical graffiti? No coda? Oh well, that's like I
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: haven't heard of that one okay, all right, fair enough.
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: They were still huge and they're still they still had
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: playing your music left to put out. So there were
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: expectations on Zeppelin, okay, okay, and they come out and
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: play just a terrible set. So much of that. Phil
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: Collins later on in his um autobiography said, I was
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: really thinking about walking off stage in the middle. And
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: the reason I did because I knew that people would
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: be talking about to this day how Phil Collins ruined
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: led Zeppelin set, not about how bad led Zeppelin set was.
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: So he said he was air drumming, trying to keep
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: out of the way because there were two drummers. Drum yeah,
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: but she didn't realize that there was going to be
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: two drummers. And he basically said, it was just it
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: was just terrible, and if you watch it, it was
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: pretty bad. I'm looking at led Zeppelin now because I
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: don't want to mess up. I thought you were texting.
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: No Presence was their final album, not Coda? What was
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: on Present? Oh no, wait in through the Outdoor. See
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: this is what I'm saying. Man. They were still like
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: very much at their peak. Good lord, I can't believe
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: I'm getting all this Zeppelin stuff wrong. El Cooda was
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: released in nineteen eight two. Yeah, but that but this
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: was it was a compilation out right, Okay, that's what
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: I was saying. So their last studio album would have
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: been What Presents or into the I think Presence, which
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: didn't have much presence. Sorry that should we cut that joke? No? No,
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: I like it. You're coming like full boy? Did I
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: have a micro expression? Go over quite a few? Um
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: so yeah. I mean, if you watch Zeppelin's performance, they
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: wanted it scrubbed from the world. You can still find
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: like credit versions on YouTube, not the official live aid
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: just like the guy that had the camera on his
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: shoulder in his living room. Basically, apparently Santana requested the
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: same thing. You can't find Santana said anymore because they said,
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: don't include that on that h It worked strives in
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: effect on them. Zeppelin's isn't the worst thing I've ever seen,
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: But Robert Plant was not in great form vocally, and
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: he admit such like they all look back and we're like,
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: it wasn't great. No, Jimmy Page was, Um didn't do
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: that great of a job either. It wasn't It wasn't
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: so horrendous that you're just like holding your nose. Yeah,
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: but it just wasn't anything like what everybody was hoping for.
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: Zabbees was pretty good, I really despite it was chunky,
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: big hair at Aussie, but what else do you want
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: from it? Was? They did Children of the Grave, Iron
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: Man and Paranoid and it was it was pretty you know,
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: I want to say words here we don't say on
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: the show B word in. Yeah, it was um we
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: say that, We've said that before. Really sure, all right,
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: it was awesome, okay, Uh. Live Aid at Wimbley ended
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: it around ten pm with do you do they know
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: It's Christmas? They brought everyone that they could out on stage.
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: Of course, Paul McCartney there was there, the who was there.
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: And then right after that ended, they switched the live
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: heat over to Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers with their
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: great great set. They did American Girl, Refugee, the Waiting
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: and Rebels and Uh eighty five to spite the clothes
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: that was still like kind of peaked. Tom Petty too, Sure,
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: I think the clothes really got to you. Huh. It's
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: just kind of you think of these classic rockers and
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: then you see him in Cavericies and like take. I
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: think it's dope. Like Bob Dylan was there. Man. He
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: actually Bob Dylan very famously like we'll not pick up
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: an acoustic guitar and like play his old folks standards anymore?
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: Did he on this one? Yeah? He played Blown in
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: the Wind and he was dressed almost identically to the
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: Fresh Prince. That would have been really really disappointing. Oh
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: my lord. Um. And then they closed the Philly show
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: UH with We Are the World and whoever was there
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: who could chip in, like Kenny Loggins and China Easton
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: and Melissa Manchester. Man, this is so eighties. Do you
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: remember her? Do you? Oh? Yeah, okay, I had to
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: look her up, like I know the name, but what
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: she's saying, don't cry out loud? Good song theme from
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: Ice Castles. Yeah, that's and Uh. Our mutual friend Allison
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: that we used to work with, UH calls us car
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: Sick songs because it just reminds her like being in
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: the back of the station wagon listening to a M
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: radio and being like car sick. I think it's a
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: good good thing. So they raised about a d million bucks,
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: which is about three hundred million today. UM. Donations did
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: pick up when Queen played, they over kind of they
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: really played that up in the movie, but they did
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: have an uptick when Queen went on because it was
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: such a great performance. Yeah. I think Geldof was kind
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: of anticipating, like the phone is to be ringing off
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: the hook the whole time, and um, he got very
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: frustrated visibly several times during the broadcast. Yeah he said
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: the F word. Yeah, that got people pumped up. It did. Um,
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: there was he was. They went to like an interview
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: where they were kind of talking up the reason why
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: Live Aid was going on, and um, the interviewer was like, well,
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: here's the let's get the address up on the on
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: the screen, and he said, f the address, just give
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: him the phone, right, Yeah, that's what they were thinking.
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: So so uh and like his bandmates or other I
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: don't know who else was was there. Who the other
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: rats I guess maybe or else Maybe one was um
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: uh was his name Midge Ray? He's Yeah, he's kind
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: of an unsung, overlooked coordinator. He really helped gold Off
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: put this together. He might have been up there, but
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: they all kind of looked at each other like, oh
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: my god. He just said the effort on the BBC,
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: and that got the MTV generation going. The phone started
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: ringing around then because somebody just said the effort on TV,
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: which if you remember back before South Park came along,
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: that did not happen. It did not happen. Like damn
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: was I don't want to say controversial, but it was
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: like it perked your ears up when you heard that
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: on TV because it was just so out of the ordinary.
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: This guy said that on TV on live TV being
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: broadcast around the world. It got people's attention for Yeah,
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: that's still a big deal to hear in a life
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: teeth Like if you hear that at an award show
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: or something, it's not shocking, but everyone goes, oh, you're
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: supposed to do that. A little eight year old and
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: he's like, you're gonna get in trouble. All right, let's
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: take another break and we'll talk about what went on
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: behind the scenes and where all this money went. Right
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: after this, chuck, Yes, let's talk about what went on
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: behind the scenes and where all this money went. So
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: to put together a show this big, especially in six months, Um,
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: they're gonna be a lot of problems and there were, Uh,
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: if you talk to the artists, they all across the
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: board had monitor issues, yeah, and just couldn't led Zeppelin.
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: I mean they didn't blame it on that, but you
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: even hear Robert Plant in the thing say like, let's
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: see if we can get these monitors going. Uh, And
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: they couldn't hear themselves. And I always had heard that
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: until I started playing shows with my my dumb old
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: man band, like you can't hear ourselves. And I was
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: always like, what do you mean, Like you got these
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: ams blasting, But it's true. You can't hear yourself on
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: a stage, and especially in outdoor stage unless you've got
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: really really great systems and monitors, you can't hear yourself.
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: And it's very, very disconcerting to play music. Well it's
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: just weird, like you know that they're hearing something that
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: you're not hearing, and you're just like, I hope it's okay.
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: So no one could hear themselves, which is a problem. Um.
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: I believe that they had power issues at Wimbley where
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: they thought it might completely go out, like they were
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: having little brown outs. Um, there were you know, even
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: though this is for charity, there were you still are
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: dealing with huge diva popping rock stars and their management,
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: who at all by this time found out that Jerry
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: wasn't there, So what's the point of going on stage? Well,
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: I mean they were, you know, they were still behind
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: the scenes, like ego battles and like, you can't go
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: on after this act, but my guy won't go on
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: after this person, or you know, trying to get more
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: time than twenty minutes. Was so so much so that
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: Billy Joel actually did not go on because he um.
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: His manager was like, they want you to do piano.
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: And believe me, these other guys ain't playing piano. You're
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: gonna look puny compared to these other sets. And he went,
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: do you mean piano? Man the song? And they went no,
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: they want you to play the piano, which, man, oh
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: that was so great, dumb um. And he was like,
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: you mean the instrument that made me famous, that I
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: wrote a song about that I play on of my songs.
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: They want me to do that and he went yeah,
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: and he went I'm not doing it no way, Billy
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: jo for nobody. He's like, I'll just get my telecaster
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: do matter of trust three times. That's a good song.
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: That's a deep Billy Joel joke, is it? Not the deepest,
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: but that's the one where he plays guitar on stage.
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: It's kind of like the only song that he plays
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: guitar on. What do you know? He went and played
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: like a couple of dates in the Soviet Union and
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: like ended up helping to thaw relations between the US
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: and the uss are almost single handedly. He also threw
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: a tantrum on stage the first night because it was
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: a bunch of like government muckety MUCKs is standing in
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: the front row st the military. It wasn't and government
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: muckety MUCKs. And he was like, get the real fans
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: out right. So he like pushed his piano over and
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: mid and it doesn't miss a beat, like keeps singing
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: in the band, keeps playing, even though they're probably terrified
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: that they're going to be putting a Soviet goolog forever.
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: I will still go see him every single time I
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: have a chance. But anyway, Billy Joel didn't play live
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: aid is the point? No, he didn't, and he wasn't
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: the only one. Yeah, van Halen turned it down. Diana
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: Ross lives him, and Elly Boy I know why they
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: asked her, Well, I don't know. Yeah, I mean, that's
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: not I'm not knocking her, but I don't know. It
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: just doesn't seem like a fit. It doesn't. You're right,
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: it's like between Sabbath and led Zeppelin. They're gonna try
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: Lisam and Ellie out there for goods. Troubles come on,
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: get happy? Uh, Yoko on no Uh. Cindy Lauper, talking heads,
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: Stevie Wonder a C d C. And Springsteen, who still
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: really really regrets not doing Live Aid. Not just him,
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: a lot of them do. Frankie goes to Hollywood turned
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: it down, and apparently that was their manager who who
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: was like, you don't want to do this is gonna
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: be like a disaster, and the band was like afterward,
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: they said it was the the worst management decision in
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: the history of Frankie said, the lead singer. Really yeah, Um,
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: they were really upset that they didn't do it. Springsteen said,
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: I really wish I was just throwing the guitar in
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: the back seat and driven on down. That's what he said.
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: He'd wish he'd driven on down the thunder road. Yeah,
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: I mean he yeah, Springsteen should have done it, And
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: I think he knows that there was a lot of
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: regret among people who didn't. Some people were like, I'm
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: just absolutely not doing it. Michael Jackson was It says
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: here that he was in the studio, but I read
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: that he uh didn't sign on in protest because there
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: weren't any African acts on the bill or enough act
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: freaking acts on the bill for his taste. Um. And
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: then Huey Lewis was another one. Yeah, that was a
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: big one that turned out to uh. And that'll be
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: a good segue too to what happened to the money,
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: because Huey Lewis is one of the few artists who
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: came out just a few weeks before and publicly said like,
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: where's this money going? And is this really really helping
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: to fight famine? Because that's what's important to the news.
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: My friend, I was really surprised. I didn't realize that
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: Huey Lewis was a woke Yeah. And and that's a
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: very good point, like, um, can I say woke? Okay,
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: Jerry Um. That was the big question to Huey Lewis,
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: and He's like, I'm not going out there and signing
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: up for this because I don't really know the He
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: was slightly cynical, but rightfully so. I think Yeah. He
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: had been in USA for Africa, and it was like,
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: I'm not convinced that that money by this time, you know,
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: tens of millions of dollars actually making it to the
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: famine victims. And everybody was like, what famine victims. He's like,
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: don't you remember that's the whole reason we're doing this,
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: and Geldof, I I don't want to make it sound
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: like Geldof ever lost focus like that and why he
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: did this, and he proved it during the show and
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: he stomped on stages like give me your money. These
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: people are dying now. And he's still very adamant and
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: defensive about the funds, right, geld this, but Huey Lewis
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: was the first one to publicly say, I'm not certain
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: that these famine victims are actually getting this money. And
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: UM we talked about this. We did an episode on
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: famine and droughts, and I believe it was the famine
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: one that we talked about it in. But six months
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: after Live Aid was finished and complete and just made
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: like a hundred and fifty million dollars. I believe that
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: UM worth more than three hundred million a day this
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: concert one day concert raised nearly three hundred billion dollars
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: for victims of famine in Africa, in a little country
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: called Ethiopia that most people hadn't heard of. Um, And
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: Spin Magazine sent a reporter there and said, go find
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: out what happened to that money. And Spin Magazine's reporter
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: came back and I was like, yeah, I don't know
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: if you guys want to hear what happened to that money,
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: because it turns out that Ethiopia was in the midst
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: of a civil war that was being reported reported on
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: even less than the famine. And it turns out that
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: the government in Ethiopia was actually largely causing the famine,
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: or at least exacerbating the worst of it. Yeah, weren't they.
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: So there was a the Dirt so what it was called,
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: which means counsel or committee. They were the military junta, Yeah,
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: the Dirt regime, and they after Holly Selassie died in
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: ninety five, they took control as this military group. Well
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: they they may have actually strangled them to death. Well
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: it says in the article suspicious Death, So I think
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: that's fair to say. Um, But there was they were
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: basically they're they're various stories depending on who you want
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: to believe. Bob Geldolf's still says that most of this
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: money went there, but there are other reports that it
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: was being intercepted, aid was being intercepted, and they were
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: funding their civil war, and that they were making the
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: famine worse by dropping napalm on croplands this whole time,
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: cutting off supply lines to the north, and the north
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: there was this there was a civil war going on
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: because the north used to be a country called air Tree.
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: You and then in World War two, Ethiopia said you
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: you're coming with us. You're part of Ethiopia now, and um,
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: there was an insurgency that eventually was successful. I think
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: in Eritrea became independent from Ethiopia again. But this is
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: how that happened through the civil war and all of
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: a sudden, the West injects five million dollars into this
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: country that's racked by famine and civil war and civil war.
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: That's helping cause the famine. And apparently either a lot
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: of people didn't know about this, or a lot of
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: people didn't think we may actually be helping the civil
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: war by injecting this money in the country and turning
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: it over to the Ethiopian government. And still to this day,
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: it's not entirely clear how much the Ethio Ethiopian government
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: spent on like arms and supplies to fund this this
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: this war against the insurgency in the north. Yeah, I
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: think that's that's one of my biggest fears of any
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: kind of thing like this, of like handing over this
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: kind of some of money to countries that, uh, you
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: don't know where it ends up. It's just like it's
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: maddening to think because you want to do the right
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: thing and donate and support these causes, but if it's
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: actually making things worse, you know, that's the thing. It's
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: one thing if if you know it's it's not helping
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: as much as you would like it to write, it's
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: an entirely different thing if you're actually giving money to
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: make it easier for somebody to kill some other person,
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: like making it worse. And that's the big question that
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: surrounds you know, the funds from Live AIGs and Yeah,
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: and you think it's frustrating because the BBC in two
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: thousand and ten published a report uh kind of claiming
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: a lot of this the money being diverted to build
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: you know, reputed places and people. Yeah, they said the opposite.
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: They said that the rebel insurgency in Eritrea and recepted
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: most of the money and they used it to fund
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: their their um civil war. But then they retracted a
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: lot of the stuff because Geldoff, you know, got mad.
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: This is only you know, eight or nine years ago,
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: and he was no, that's not true. So there's still
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: just a lot of debate over where that money went. Right,
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: the BBC attracted the story and published an apology too,
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: so they may have gotten that really wrong. I don't
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: think they do that kind of thing just because Bob
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: Geldof gets mad, you know, sosh right. I think they
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: got the reporting very wrong. But I also have the
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: impression that guild Off, whether he believes, and and a
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: lot of the funds went to NGOs on the ground,
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: aid groups on the ground, and it didn't all just
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: go to the Ethiopian government. And apparently in the aid
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: industry UM they still look at this like, Okay, even
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: if some of the money didn't get to where you
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: wanted it, and it went to places you wouldn't want
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: it to go, this still helped raise awareness of the
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: kind of stuff that goes on in Africa that the
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: West was not aware of. It was. It had a huge,
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: huge impact on how you should do these events in
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: the future. Um, this kicked off farm Maide and hands
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: across America. That America for sure. Have you seen us yet? No?
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: But I ran across an article that reference that and
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: I was like, I can't wait to see that movie
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: even more now. It's good. Um but yeah, I mean
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: it kicked off farm Aide. It kicked off like every
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: benefit concert, global benefit concert you've ever seen since then
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: can trace its roots back to Live Aid, including Live eight,
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: which was another gelof one. That's a lot of people said,
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: call it Live aid too, and you'll get a lot
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: more traction. Yeah, but that wasn't to raise money. That
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: was just to raise awareness for the Live eight conference.
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: The eight Yeah yeah, what I say, the Live eight conference.
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: But think about it. Geldof wasn't trying to raise money anymore.
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: He was trying to raise awareness. And I wonder if
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: that was because he either became convinced that that money
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: did go to sources that he didn't want it to,
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: or if he was just like, I'm tired of arguing
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: about it. I'm not gonna go to this again. But
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: as a result of that um, the eight team pours
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: nations in the world had their debts canceled by the
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: eighth eight richest nations in the world. And I think
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: the Aid to Africa is like doubled um over the
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: previous G eight summit. Yeah, and you know, previous to
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: nineteen five, you didn't. I mean you had like George
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: Harrison doing the concert for Bangladesh, which is kind of
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: one of the first high profile things like that, but
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: you didn't see a ton of big rock stars out,
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: you know, championing causes. And I think it really inspired
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: a generation of young people and uh of the popping
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: rocks celebrities of that age too, to like maybe do
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: something beneficial with their riches and their Yeah, for sure,
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: everyftter co caine for a couple of days and go
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: do something with your life, you rocker. Yeah, you can
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: get back on the cocaine in a week. Just put
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: it off to the side. Yeah, So just put an
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: upside down magazine over it and come back to it later.
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: It was a monumental event and one that I have
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: a lot of funness for. Still, big, big deal. That's great.
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: I don't remember any of it. I remember watching it
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: on MTV and my big sisters were there, but I
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: don't remember. I have no real memories. I was pretty stupid.
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: I guess you were nine. I was almost nine, two
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: days shy of being nine. Yeah, I mean, what is
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: that third grade? I was probably out playing with like
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: hey man stuff most of the timexactly, trying to find
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: cigarette butts on the ground. Not yet just a few
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: years later, though, That's right. Uh. If you want to
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: know more about Live AID I think Chuck and I
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: and probably Jerry would strongly advise you to just go
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: onto YouTube and spend a little time looking at concert
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: footage from it. Yeah, or send in your special live
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: aid memories. I like being in London and not knowing
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: what was going on. I love that one. Um. And
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: since we said that, since we made funded Jerry's terrible
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: Live aid story, it's time for listening to mate. Hey guys,
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: listening to your episode on rape kits. My heart sank
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: when you apologize for being two dudes educating people about
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: the options one might have after being raped or sexually assaulted.
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: It sounded as if you thought that men in general
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: are not fit to do this, which I don't think
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: is true. I'm a doctor, guys, who works with men
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: and women that experienced sexual violence, and I imagine that
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: male victims would find an apology of this kind unnecessary
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: at best, as with the male therapists who are doing
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: great work, and you can serve as much needed therapeutically
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: invaluable counter examples after someone has had bad experiences with men. Also,
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: don't think your initial disclaimer that this would be a
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: serious episode without any jokes was warranted, and I'm glad
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: the episode didn't turn out that way. If anything, you're
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: good natured humor brought so much needed warmth to the discussion.
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: We are all still trying to figure out how to
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: talk about these topics, and I would like to encourage
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: you to stand by your efforts shining a light on
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: a difficult topic for the benefit of your listeners. Thank you, guys,
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: keep it up. That is from Hanno. Hanno, h no, no,
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: thanks a lot, Hanno. It's a great name. Yeah, and
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: if I'm not mistaken, it said Hanno was in Hanover, Germany. No, yeah, really,
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: I wonder if they like the town so much. They
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: just said call me Hanno from now on everybody, I
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: love this town. It's like me, I'm from chuckdown your
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: addle what a t l Oh gotcha? Yeah, Chucktown, I
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: guess makes more sense if either one does well. Thanks
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: a lot, Hannoh. We appreciate that. We will try to
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: take your advice to heart because it is pretty good advice. Uh.
• 51:29
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• 51:31
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• 51:33
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