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Mac & Bone Hour 1: Naz Reid Gets Benched & Panthers/Packers Scene Set · Mac & Bone Podcast

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  Speaker 3: So we got a lot to talk about today on
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  Speaker 3: the Mac and Bone show. Bone is here. The fit
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  Speaker 3: daddy is here. We got a lot of things happening
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  Speaker 3: to discuss Hornets losing to Detroit and Nas Reed being
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  Speaker 3: benched for the entire second half. That's a huge conversation, obviously.
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  Speaker 2: What's up, Bo? Good morning to you.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, we go through those summer months, Mac, where we
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  Speaker 5: try to figure out what to talk about. Today is
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  Speaker 5: not one of those days. It is an absolutely jam-packed
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  Speaker 5: edition of the show, including, I do believe, maybe... At 645,
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  Speaker 5: we'll drop it in there this morning. We have renamed
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  Speaker 5: Josh Marlow, our producer, who's been fitting. We had a
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  Speaker 5: high-level meeting yesterday that didn't involve him, but we have
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  Speaker 5: renamed him something else now. And you teased it on
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  Speaker 5: a station promo yesterday.
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  Speaker 2: It's coming, man. And he's very.
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  Speaker 5: worried for some reason that he thinks, Mac, it's going
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  Speaker 5: to be an offensive name, and I don't understand why
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  Speaker 5: at all that he'd be worried. He has no idea
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  Speaker 5: that this was even coming today, by the way. Why
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  Speaker 5: does he not think it's going to be a positive name?
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  Speaker 2: We're growing the brand. We're making you a bigger star.
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  Speaker 2: You're emerging as a star.
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  Speaker 5: You're our Brandon Miller, and we're going to take you,
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  Speaker 5: our marketing team is going to take you to the
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  Speaker 5: next level.
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  Speaker 2: Or is he our Nas Reid, and we're going to
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  Speaker 2: tell him to sit out the second half of the show?
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  Speaker 2: Also possible.
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  Speaker 6: Oh, man.
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  Speaker 2: What a segue.
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  Speaker 3: The things we talk about while Fitty and Flound are
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  Speaker 3: recording podcasts going off on UNC basketball. The things that
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  Speaker 3: get accomplished. Yeah, this Hornets loss, it's one thing to
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  Speaker 3: lose to Detroit. Had a seven-point lead at the half.
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  Speaker 3: Had a double-digit lead in the first half. Brandon Miller
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  Speaker 3: goes for 31.
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  Speaker 5: A little frustrated because they were on a back-to-back and
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  Speaker 5: no durin, so it is a little annoying from that standpoint.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't expect us. We were seven-and-a-half-point dogs going in
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  Speaker 3: for good reason. Again, my goal without... Kobe White and
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  Speaker 3: Conn Knipple is to be 500 when they come back.
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  Speaker 3: And I don't know if they can do that. I
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  Speaker 3: don't know how long they're going to have to hold
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  Speaker 3: it down, Bone. But I don't have any delusions of
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  Speaker 3: grandeur without those two guys out.
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  Speaker 2: You cannot sugarcoat that at all.
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  Speaker 3: With that said, when you have a seven-point lead at
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  Speaker 3: the half and you bench one of your best players
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  Speaker 3: in Nas Reid and it is readily apparent that that,
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  Speaker 3: holy crap, we already don't have two or three best scorers.
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  Speaker 3: Now you take out another one of our best scorers.
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  Speaker 3: It's readily apparent that the offensive issues in the– I mean,
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  Speaker 3: we're already only so good offensively with what we have
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  Speaker 3: on the floor, Brandon, et al. You took Nas Reid out.
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  Speaker 3: You saw it on the defensive end. So I think
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  Speaker 3: people are in their feelings because Nas Reid got sat
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  Speaker 3: out last night, Bone, and that game.
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  Speaker 2: Was there for to take it. They're the worst offense
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  Speaker 2: or right near the worst offenses in the league with
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  Speaker 2: Brandon Miller going off.
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  Speaker 5: So never mind. You take another piece out of there.
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  Speaker 5: Nas read only 13 minutes. It was productive. Seven and
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  Speaker 5: six and a block in the 13 minutes there. But yeah,
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  Speaker 5: that's that's one that got away. But I am I
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  Speaker 5: am so like you, though, where to me, it's just keep.
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  Speaker 5: your head's above water, keep treading water, just stay the
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  Speaker 5: course until help is on the way. And then when
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  Speaker 5: you pair up a sizzling Brandon Miller with the other
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  Speaker 5: guys that will be back, all of a sudden that
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  Speaker 5: offense that is so low, they'll start cooking here eventually.
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  Speaker 5: But the Nas Reed thing, I think, overpowers the entire
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  Speaker 5: loss last night.
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  Speaker 2: It does.
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  Speaker 3: The loss to me is just, okay, we lost a
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  Speaker 3: seven and a half point dogs on the road. We're
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  Speaker 3: three and two. Let's go home and let's kick the
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  Speaker 3: Wizards rear end on Friday night. You know, that's kind
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  Speaker 3: of where I'm at in terms of losing the basketball game.
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  Speaker 3: The Nas Reid thing brings up a whole nother conversation.
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  Speaker 3: And you said the exact, first of all, I guess
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  Speaker 3: we should play the Charles Lee clip. A lot of
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  Speaker 3: you might not even know if you just watch the broadcast,
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  Speaker 3: you know, Charles, or, you know, Nas was sitting out
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  Speaker 3: the entire second half. They had no answers on the
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  Speaker 3: broadcast of what was going on. Dell and EC are speculating.
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  Speaker 3: Is there an injury or whatever? I'm sure fans are
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  Speaker 3: speculating about it. But then we get hit with this
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  Speaker 3: Chuck bomb after the game, Shannon spake asked about it.
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  Speaker 3: Charles Lee gives his answer.
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  Speaker 1: We didn't see Nas Reed play in the second. Can
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  Speaker 1: you tell us what went behind that decision?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, unfortunately, you know, Nas didn't meet our
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  Speaker 4: standards in the first half. And at halftime, we made
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  Speaker 4: a decision that he wouldn't play in the second half.
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  Speaker 4: But I look forward to him meeting those standards come
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  Speaker 4: next game.
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  Speaker 5: I did not see that coming. Again, we had no idea,
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  Speaker 5: but he was on the injury report Monday with an illness,
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  Speaker 5: and then he played, so it wasn't a big deal.
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  Speaker 5: But I thought, well, is he not feeling well? Did
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  Speaker 5: he maybe pull something? And they're so secretive about what's
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  Speaker 5: going on, they just didn't even tell the broadcaster. I
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  Speaker 5: just assumed that there was something physically going on based
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  Speaker 5: off The circumstances, having the lead, the way he was playing. Also,
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  Speaker 5: Nas Reid's reputation. Also, I did not see a benching happening.
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  Speaker 3: No, never.
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  Speaker 2: Never.
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  Speaker 3: They love him there. I thought he was the ultimate
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  Speaker 3: team player. So he didn't meet the standards. First of all,
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  Speaker 3: that's good news. We have standards. Because there were years
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  Speaker 3: where we did not with this organization. So I want
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  Speaker 3: to say this right now. Secondly, I can appreciate... a
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  Speaker 3: coach trying to send a message. If you have a
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  Speaker 3: problem with something a player is doing, I appreciate him
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  Speaker 3: sending a message.
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  Speaker 2: This is surprising.
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  Speaker 3: Charles Lee and Dave Canales are often referred to as
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  Speaker 3: happy coaches. They're not referred to as hard asses. Dave
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  Speaker 3: will still not be considered a hard ass because he's
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  Speaker 3: not involved in this. But Charles Lee showed a little
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  Speaker 3: hard ass side here. And it's interesting. He has never
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  Speaker 3: done anything like this, Bone. He has never benched a
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  Speaker 3: player for an entire half. And he has certainly never
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  Speaker 3: came out and called them out publicly. He wanted that
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  Speaker 3: out there. I do remember a couple of LaMelo kind
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  Speaker 3: of air quotes benchings where maybe he would sit him
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  Speaker 3: out bone late in games in the fourth for a stretch,
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  Speaker 3: maybe not bring him back a time or two.
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  Speaker 5: Somewhat performance based, definitely. Like in a particular game, hey,
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  Speaker 5: we're just going to ride out the unit that we
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  Speaker 5: have out there that came back in a game or whatever.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. Again, I literally think two or three times.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think many. Sounds about right. And he did
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  Speaker 2: not call LaMelo out publicly. It was very kind of...
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  Speaker 2: You know what I mean? It wasn't known it was
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  Speaker 2: a bench. It wasn't like this. This was a statement benching.
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  Speaker 3: This was you sit your ass out in a game
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  Speaker 3: we have a chance to win on the road against
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  Speaker 3: a really good team. I don't give a damn if
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  Speaker 3: it costs us the game. It's worth it to send
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  Speaker 3: this message to you and maybe your teammates too. And
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  Speaker 3: I'm going to tell the world about it. This was
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  Speaker 3: dramatically different. This was a different version of Charles Lee.
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  Speaker 3: And I can appreciate it. I can't appreciate, I don't
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  Speaker 3: understand it. I've seen the clip floating around online of
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  Speaker 3: where you can see, it wasn't on the Hornets broadcast,
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  Speaker 3: but there's an online clip of Nas Reed going up
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  Speaker 3: for a basket. I don't know if he, I think
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  Speaker 3: he loses the ball. Then kind of doesn't sprint back
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  Speaker 3: on defense, but it's covered back there. They pick up
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  Speaker 3: the man. I didn't view that clip as anything egregious,
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  Speaker 3: like horrible.
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  Speaker 5: There's the one clip where they're kind of having words
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  Speaker 5: walking to the bench.
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  Speaker 2: That's right after that play.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Right after that play.
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  Speaker 5: It looks like Nas Reed maybe doesn't want to hear,
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  Speaker 5: although we can't really necessarily tell. It's a DAZN broadcast
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  Speaker 5: feed that I saw the video from.
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  Speaker 2: Two things here. Number one, when that happens this early
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  Speaker 2: in the year, that's a coach trying to get ahead
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  Speaker 2: of something that could be a bigger problem later. So
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  Speaker 2: for him to do it right now.
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  Speaker 5: He sees something there where he said, I can't let
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  Speaker 5: this thing seep in to the heart of the season here,
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  Speaker 5: or this might be a problem. So he had to
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  Speaker 5: get ahead or whatever it was. Number two, I think
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  Speaker 5: when you bench in those circumstances and you essentially concede
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  Speaker 5: that the standard and the message is more important than
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  Speaker 5: the result in a game where you could go 4-1,
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  Speaker 5: beat Detroit, and do a great job without two starters,
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  Speaker 5: to me, a benching match is not the first thing
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  Speaker 5: that you would— To me, there might be other stuff
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  Speaker 5: going on behind the scenes.
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  Speaker 2: I have no knowledge. I don't know. But to me,
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  Speaker 2: was there something.
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  Speaker 5: Before this in another game, a practice behind the scenes
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  Speaker 5: where he got warned, he got told? Maybe Lee told
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  Speaker 5: the front office, look, I've got this going on here.
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  Speaker 5: I may have to sit him down. Because I don't
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  Speaker 5: think a benching in that circumstance would be the first
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  Speaker 5: move Charles Lee would do. The sacrifice of game. So
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  Speaker 5: what else is going on behind the scenes there that
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  Speaker 5: we don't know about? And that's why I'll defend Charles
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  Speaker 5: Lee from that standpoint. You could have a point. I'm
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  Speaker 5: just going to defend his right to coach his team.
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  Speaker 5: Like you said it before the show.
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  Speaker 3: I thought it before the show, like before you said
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  Speaker 3: you and I were thinking the exact same thing. Fans
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  Speaker 3: want our coaches to be hard asses, not too nice.
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  Speaker 3: Charles Lee was a hard ass. And what do I
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  Speaker 3: notice on Hornets Twitter? People are furious because he was
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  Speaker 3: a hard ass. Like, make up your minds. What do
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  Speaker 3: you want, a hard-ass coach? Or do you not really
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  Speaker 3: want that? Dave Canales has to hold these guys accountable.
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  Speaker 3: The other guy does. Or do you just want to win?
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  Speaker 3: And if you don't win the game, you're not going
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  Speaker 3: to like the approach. So if the approach is Mr.
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  Speaker 3: Nice Guy and you lost, you're going to hate Mr.
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  Speaker 3: Nice Guy.
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  Speaker 2: If the approach is hard-ass and you lose, you're going
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  Speaker 2: to hate hard-ass.
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  Speaker 3: Like, I think that, I think it's just, and to me,
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  Speaker 3: that's not a fair way of looking at it. Also, Bone,
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  Speaker 3: I have to say here, and you're right, when you
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  Speaker 3: have your two tops, two of your three top scorers
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  Speaker 3: out already, you're struggling on, you're one of the worst
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  Speaker 3: teams in offensive efficiency, and you take out Nas Reed,
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  Speaker 3: then Grant Williams is out.
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  Speaker 2: He would be the guy to go into the lineup.
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  Speaker 2: He's out as well, another four-man.
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  Speaker 3: Um, it's a dramatic move, but when you say a
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  Speaker 3: game is more important than, um, or the mess is
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  Speaker 3: more important than game guys, it's one NBA game. Let's
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  Speaker 3: not act like people are on there acting like it's
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  Speaker 3: one NFL game, right? Like these things are not near
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  Speaker 3: created the same one NBA game to make, to make
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  Speaker 3: a message is way different bone than if a coach
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  Speaker 3: said one out of these 17, you know what I mean?
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  Speaker 3: We can afford to lose. So I want to defend
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  Speaker 3: him on that, too. Let's not blow up one NBA
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  Speaker 3: game here.
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  Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 5: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: When he feels like I've got to send a message.
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  Speaker 2: We're not even to November yet here into the season.
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  Speaker 2: I do.
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  Speaker 5: If there is a problem, Mac, with Nas to convention, again,
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  Speaker 5: we don't know what's going on.
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  Speaker 2: We don't see anything. Like, is he pure speculation? Is he?
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  Speaker 2: Because the reputation for him is team first guy. It's crazy.
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  Speaker 2: He's a cult figure in Minnesota.
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  Speaker 5: Is he disgruntled that he doesn't want to be here
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  Speaker 5: or something?
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  Speaker 2: He's definitely never let on.
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  Speaker 5: He has seemed extremely happy. That's why this is so surprising.
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  Speaker 5: It's not like there's a reputation where we traded for–
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  Speaker 5: It's crazy. We didn't trade for Draymond Green of the
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  Speaker 5: Midwest Mac. We got a guy here that is an
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  Speaker 5: absolute cult figure where he came from.
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  Speaker 2: That's what's crazy about it.
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  Speaker 3: And all the videos someone can point to is that one–
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  Speaker 3: at one play and then the exchange like.
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  Speaker 5: And it's extra points out he was uh sheared on
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  Speaker 5: the bench he was the first off the bench dapping
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  Speaker 5: guys up.
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  Speaker 3: So he was he yeah that i was watching him
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  Speaker 3: over there um uh because i watched we got home
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  Speaker 3: we had a soccer game high school soccer game so
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  Speaker 3: i get home so i watch fc first And the
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  Speaker 3: sheer reason I did this was Mac Jr.
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  Speaker 2: Was not happy about this. He wanted to watch the
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  Speaker 2: Hornets game.
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  Speaker 3: I watched FC first because when you go on the
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  Speaker 3: Apple and the game's over, you're not going to be
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  Speaker 3: able to avoid seeing the score. So I know no
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  Speaker 3: one cares about my rationale, but this is what I
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  Speaker 3: was doing. So I went and watched FC because the
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  Speaker 3: Hornets game, I can just go click on the DVR.
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  Speaker 3: I won't know the score. So by the time I
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  Speaker 3: watched the second half, I was aware– that he got
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  Speaker 3: benched or whatever. So I'm watching his demeanor on the sidelines. And, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: you could tell he was trying to be a good teammate.
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  Speaker 3: But it is weird, to your point, because we never
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  Speaker 3: would have guessed that Nas Reed would do something that
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  Speaker 3: Coach would deem worthy of a benching.
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  Speaker 2: I do want to.
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  Speaker 3: Mention, and we'll talk about this a bunch, obviously we're
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  Speaker 3: going to talk a ton about Panthers and Green Bay tonight.
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  Speaker 2: It just feels like a very pivotal game.
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  Speaker 3: Are you going to do that bounce-back thing or– Are
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  Speaker 3: you going, like, they're so injured that that there's a
• 14:24
  Speaker 3: lot to be worried about in the trenches because of injury.
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  Speaker 3: So we'll talk about that tonight. I do want to
• 14:28
  Speaker 3: salute Charlotte FC. 4-0 victory against Montreal last night, Bone.
• 14:33
  Speaker 3: A Liel Abada hat trick off the bench. Three Abada
• 14:38
  Speaker 3: booms last night, Boney. So Willie P was excited about that.
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  Speaker 3: They clinch a playoff spot. Chicago, I think, ends up
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  Speaker 3: drawing against Orlando. So they're two points from Chicago. With
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  Speaker 3: two games to go, the reason why Chicago's important is
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  Speaker 3: that's the fourth spot.
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  Speaker 2: We're two points out of the fourth spot.
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  Speaker 3: Fourth spot has home field advantage for the three-game series,
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  Speaker 3: four versus five. And obviously, if we don't get to
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  Speaker 3: fourth spot, then we are playing, you know, if it
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  Speaker 3: goes to three games, we're playing two on the road.
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  Speaker 3: Maxie got hurt last night with an ankle injury. So
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  Speaker 3: he was just brilliant in the game before getting hurt.
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  Speaker 3: So now we've got to worry about that one. So
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  Speaker 3: it was a little bittersweet in that way. We're never
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  Speaker 3: not worried about some injury somewhere in the city, are we?
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  Speaker 2: Seriously, man. Jeez. Seriously.
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  Speaker 5: We also apparently have an all-time Willie P moment last
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  Speaker 5: night we have to discuss. I have not heard it yet,
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  Speaker 5: but I do see it on my sheet here, and
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  Speaker 5: I cannot wait to hear what this is.
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  Speaker 3: Willie P had a moment, man. Had a moment that
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  Speaker 3: was so Willie P in the middle of this broadcast.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, you can count the announcers on one finger,
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  Speaker 3: one thumb, one finger, one pinky finger, that would have
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  Speaker 3: a moment like this. In the middle of a game broadcast.
• 15:51
  Speaker 3: I am fully convinced. Pete, you are one of one, baby.
• 15:55
  Speaker 3: You are one of one. Also want to mention an
• 15:58
  Speaker 3: interesting storyline, Bone, about the NC State coaching search that
• 16:03
  Speaker 3: we found out yesterday. So Chancellor Howell and the AD
• 16:08
  Speaker 3: Boo Corrigan put out a letter to fans, and in
• 16:11
  Speaker 3: that letter, It says that former Wolfpack, well, I guess
• 16:15
  Speaker 3: once a Wolfpacker, always a Wolfpacker.
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: Future Panthers head coach.
• 16:19
  Speaker 3: NC State men Bill Cowher and Dwayne Washington will assist
• 16:26
  Speaker 3: in the hiring of the next coach.
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: So that was an interesting little nugget right there. How
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: about that? Bill Cowher getting involved. I like it. I
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: like it. Very interesting.
• 16:34
  Speaker 5: Whatever keeps him out of the Panther fan coaching searches
• 16:37
  Speaker 5: in the future.
• 16:38
  Speaker 3: If you can't get him involved with the Panthers, NC
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: State fans, get him back involved with the alma mater's coaching.
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: I believe he lives down here again on the coast.
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: I think he moved there not long ago or a
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: couple years ago.
• 16:52
  Speaker 5: So he's back at least somewhere in the Carolinas.
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: What if he does a Jay-Z like Jay-Z did with
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: the Super Bowl halftime show? What if he helps the
• 16:59
  Speaker 3: coaching search and then says, let's just name.
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: Me the coach?
• 17:02
  Speaker 5: Yeah, we got Belichick at UNC and Cowher with NC State.
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: Let's do battle, boys.
• 17:08
  Speaker 5: When we come back here on the Mac and Bone
• 17:10
  Speaker 5: radio show. Panthers, Packers tonight. We got a lot of
• 17:14
  Speaker 5: Panthers and Packers rolled out for this game. We may
• 17:17
  Speaker 5: have our answer about who stars that quarterback tonight opposite
• 17:20
  Speaker 5: of Lee, and we take a look at some suggested
• 17:23
  Speaker 5: Panther trade options coming up in the next couple weeks.
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: Sports Radio, 92.7 WFNZ.
• 17:47
  Speaker 6: I think they're going to watch the film and figure
• 17:51
  Speaker 6: out how they want to attack us. Ultimately, they've got
• 17:53
  Speaker 6: a really good quarterback, and they do pass the ball
• 17:56
  Speaker 6: a lot, and so we've seen a little bit of both.
• 17:59
  Speaker 6: The Lions passed a bunch against us. The Bucs ran,
• 18:03
  Speaker 6: and so I think it's all situational depending on who
• 18:05
  Speaker 6: they have. We expect a good mix, but we'll see.
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: Devin Lloyd talking about what to expect from the Green
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: Bay Packers' fifth-ranked passing attack. These are actually the second
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: and fifth-ranked passing attacks in the league, Panthers and Packers.
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: The interesting dynamic here, Bone, we're going to talk about
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: it all day.
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: It's Mac Bone and the prairie dog behind the board
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: right now. Oh, my God. That's not his new name.
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: That's not his new name.
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: I was just going to kind of be subtle about
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: it and just do the show. Bone is, I guess
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: I have to explain that now?
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: I don't know if you do. I guess I have
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: to explain. Fitty's in peril right now behind the board. Yeah,
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: we got to work this whole segment around Fitty's bowels.
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: Let's just put it that way. I had some apple
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: juice this morning, and my body is not accepting of
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: the apple juice. Not the juice.
• 18:53
  Speaker 6: No.
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: The juice it's usually grape juice for me blame it
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: on the juice baby blame it on the juice but
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: this apple juice has my stomach in knots.
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: Oh man all right anyway so we got that going
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: on behind the scenes thank you to bone for the
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: full disclosure chuck lee was very honest last night bone
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: about nas read and bone it believes in full transparency
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: as well with our listeners up to his standard though Oh,
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: my goodness.
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: Anyway, so, but anyway, here's what I was going to say.
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: The Packers have this really high-powered passing attack. Jordan Love
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: is tied for most deep balls completed this year. Boney,
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: they have two wide receivers that are making big play
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: after big play downfield. But the interesting thing is how
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: will they attack the Panthers? Will they try to throw
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: it on them, or did they watch a tape of
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: Tampa and Chicago and say, let's run it at these fools?
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: The twist there is Green Bay is the worst running
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: team in football. Have not had more than 86 yards
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: as a team in a single game, average 59, average.
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: 2.9 yards of carry.
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: Then to make it more interesting, they have Brandon Jacobs back.
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: So it's like, how much does that you didn't see
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: Josh Jacobs? Josh, it didn't. Yeah. Brandon J.
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: We'd have to take a time machine back to get
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: him on the field. But anyway, Josh Jacobs is back.
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: But that didn't seem to improve the running attack against Detroit.
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: So it's a very interesting battle that Devin Lloyd was
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: talking about there between the Packers offense and the Carolina
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: Panthers defense. as far as the injury situation goes. So
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: we've already got seven total players that yesterday were ruled
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: out of this game on both sides. For the Panthers,
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: it's guards Damian Lewis, that's the big one, and Torricelli Simpkins.
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: It's edge rusher Jalen Phillips. I Caleb Evans with the
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: tricep injury is out of this game. So there'll be
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: another starting corner. Mike Kay last night, Bone, reported that
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: the Panthers are expected to elevate cornerback Marco Wilson and
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: guard Jake Curhan from the practice squad. So it's not
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: Corey Thornton coming up. It's Marco Wilson, who they added
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: a few weeks ago, who is infamous for his shoe-throwing
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: incident as a Florida Gator against LSU back in the day.
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: Wonder if that's our answer as to who is replacing
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: Caleb Evans as a starting quarterback.
• 21:21
  Speaker 5: Kurhan did well in this spot last year at Lambeau
• 21:25
  Speaker 5: in the same week of the season, so maybe he
• 21:27
  Speaker 5: can find that magic again there, Mac.
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: But I would also point this out. The other option
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: at guard is Corey Bullock.
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: He did pretty damn well in the win against Detroit
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: without Damian Lewis this year. So to your point, either
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: way you have, whether it's, Bullock or Kurhan, they have
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: both been plugged in to start at guard in big
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: wins for this team.
• 21:49
  Speaker 5: As far as Marco Wilson goes, Matt, we've asked this repeatedly,
• 21:52
  Speaker 5: and I know we don't have an answer, so it's
• 21:54
  Speaker 5: more of just throwing it out there. What the hell
• 21:56
  Speaker 5: happened to Corey Thornton? This was a guy I thought
• 21:58
  Speaker 5: could be a piece to the puzzle here throughout the season,
• 22:02
  Speaker 5: and now he's not even getting burned for a guy
• 22:05
  Speaker 5: they just brought in within the last month or so.
• 22:07
  Speaker 5: What in the world happened to Corey Thornton, a guy
• 22:10
  Speaker 5: that had so much promise just in the summertime?
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: I heard Corey Thornton and Nas Reed have been hanging
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: out together.
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: I heard that's the problem right now. Both coaches have
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: stood up and said, we are going to rebel against
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: this duo. Corey Thornton must not be meeting the standard bone.
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: He's not, he's not beating the field.
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: Is it that they need an outside corner and they
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: don't view Corey outside?
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: They view him inside.
• 22:30
  Speaker 6: I don't know.
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: I don't know the answer, but it is pretty damn surprising.
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: If we were to tell our training camp at start
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: of training camp selves, this, we would be shocked because
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: I know, I think what happened bone is they heard
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: me driving the Corey Thornton bandwagon before the season. And
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: they realized we got a bail on this cat. If
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: Mac's hyping him up, this is not going to work
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: out well for anybody. I think that might be what happened.
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: Maybe blew an engine and he had, or he had
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: some car problems. He's in the back of the field
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: right now.
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: So, yeah, I don't know, but Marco Wilson, don't say
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: don't maybe don't say who you like anymore. Keep that quiet.
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: Unless they start Shaw Smith Wade on the outside, but
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: I wouldn't, I kind of feel like Marco Wilson's going
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: to be the starting corner for better or worse. My
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: inclination is he probably can't do worse than Evans or
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: But every.
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: Time we say that in Charlotte sports, it can't be worse. Oh, no.
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: It sometimes gets worse.
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: The Packers' injury situation, they ruled out three guys yesterday,
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: linebacker Zaire Franklin and then two interior linemen starters. So
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: their offensive line stinks with these guys. So when you're
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: trying to decide whether you're a woe-is-me fan tonight or
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: whether you're– this is where the Panthers bounce back and
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: play well, Guy. Take into account that this stinky offensive
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: line will be missing their starting center, Sean Ryan, and
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: their starting right guard, Travis Glover. Now, on the Panthers'
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: side of things, Bone, I ain't going to lie to you.
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: All five spots on the offensive line are cause for some,
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: at least some, concern tonight. Rasheed Walker going against the
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: best pass rusher on the edge for Green Bay, Lucas
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: Van Ness. That's a problem. The left guard is either
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: Bullock or Kurhan. Again, both those guys have plugged in
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: and played all right, but they're backups. Luke Fortner's another guy.
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: You got to worry about him a bit. Right guard,
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: Robert Hunt, of course, we're worried about the season he's having.
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: And right tackle, I like Monroe Freeling, but he's a rookie.
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: So all those spots on the Panthers O-line, I think
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: we're worried about, Bo.
• 24:29
  Speaker 5: I mean, this game may come down to whose line
• 24:31
  Speaker 5: can just hold up tonight the most.
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: Whose line is it anyway? Could this be a spot, Mack, where...
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: Derek Brown has a don't forget about me game tonight
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: where he says, all right, I know that I'm not
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: playing at my highest level, but with the Packers offensive
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: line problems, their center being out, can Derek Brown have
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: a game tonight where he wrecks havoc that he hasn't
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: really done in full all year? Real nice to see, man.
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: Real nice to see.
• 24:56
  Speaker 5: Throw in just cheese heads around tonight. I would love
• 24:59
  Speaker 5: to see it, baby. Like Willie at a Wegmans.
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: So let's let's let you hear from Monroe Freeling. He
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: spoke this week about kind of where he's been improving
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: on the field and kind of what he learned during
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: his time out as a rookie.
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: I think just kind of.
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: Getting used to the speed of the game and just
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: trusting that. you know, I can go out there and play.
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: I think it's first, like, a couple games, you know,
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: getting used to, like, everything, and now that I, you know,
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: trust the playbook, I know what I'm doing every single time,
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: I can play faster.
• 25:28
  Speaker 6: Was there any benefit to, I mean, you got thrown
• 25:30
  Speaker 6: out there, but then you had a week to sit
• 25:32
  Speaker 6: and just sort of observe.
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: What did you get out of that period to maybe
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: reset a little bit?
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: I think, number one, getting healthy. I think all around,
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: I think it was getting this knee healthy and just
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: kind of everything else, even the mental part of the game,
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: sitting back, watching, learning from Timo just to see the
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: way he approaches the game. I think that helped a lot.
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: So there you go, Monroe Freeling, man.
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: He actually played pretty clean when he went in there, Bone,
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: but it was towards the end of the game. But
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: I don't think PFF had him with the pressure allowed
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: when he went in for Moten. But my God, to
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: lose Moten for the season is devastating. To not have
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: Moten and Lewis, the two things... And Lewis, I feel
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: like struggled a little bit the last couple of weeks,
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: not been at his best, but still those are the
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: two by far most trustworthy.
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: Oh, Lyman bone.
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: And we got to play without both of them tonight,
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: but I will say, um, we played without both of
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: them against Detroit, right?
• 26:27
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: So and we got a dub in that game.
• 26:30
  Speaker 5: That's the other residual effect back of the Moten injury, too,
• 26:34
  Speaker 5: is I'm I'm about ready with the way Walker has played.
• 26:38
  Speaker 5: I'm about ready to see Monroe Freeland go get that
• 26:40
  Speaker 5: left tackle spot and just hold that thing down for
• 26:42
  Speaker 5: the next decade or so. Get him in there and
• 26:44
  Speaker 5: let him go.
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: But now because of the Moten injury, now that also
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: messes up our plans there. Yeah. Cause that's what we
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: have for, that's what we get for making plans.
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: Cause I honestly think Rasheed Walker was about to get
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: benched in that game.
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: I'm with you.
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: And I was sitting there saying, when did Freeling was
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: like putting his helmet on and jumping around, looked like
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: he was going to go in, but he didn't. And
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: then Rasheed Walker bone gets bull rush shoved all the
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: way over into Moten hurts Moten. And now, as you said,
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: now you got to play Freeling at right tackle where
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: I thought like, if it didn't happen during that game,
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: I feel like Freeling would have been starting probably this
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: week at the left side.
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: I think you're right. And then you would have had
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: him and Moten.
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: Now we've got Walker, like I said, against primarily their
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: best pass rusher. At least it's not Micah Parsons. I
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: will say that, Bone. Jacobs came back last week for them,
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: but we do at least escape Micah Parsons.
• 27:34
  Speaker 5: I think we're missing Parsons by a week because I
• 27:36
  Speaker 5: think they're going to get the extended— Time off now
• 27:40
  Speaker 5: and get them back the next game, I think. So
• 27:43
  Speaker 5: we just missed Micah Parsons back. Celebrity text here. Was
• 27:47
  Speaker 5: Marco Wilson the guy that threw a shoe at me? Sincerely,
• 27:50
  Speaker 5: George W.
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: Bush. Different through Scheller. What am I trying to say?
• 27:55
  Speaker 5: Shoe thrower. A through shower is completely different. Yeah, that
• 28:00
  Speaker 5: does not sound. You get in trouble for those things.
• 28:02
  Speaker 5: That does not sound clean at all.
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: There are some funny texters on the text line, some
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: silly texters. Barry Patch says, if Marco gets beat tonight,
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: just have him take his shoe off and throw the
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: ball before the receiver. Throw it at the ball before
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: the receiver can catch it.
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: Is that illegal? Throw him a shoe? Probably, right? I guess.
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: That is frowned upon. I believe that didn't work out
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: well in Florida for him. That is not the standard.
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: Gribble says, Coach Lee heard Nas Reid went to Wegmans
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: and benched him for that. All right.
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: So anyway, at least y'all are having fun today. All right.
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: We got benched Nas Reid last night and a loss.
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: We've got the horrible Sunday and a bunch of injuries.
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: On the Panther side of things, 704-570-9610. If y'all want
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: to jump in here, this texter says Mac tickled himself.
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: was i giggling like was i like tickle me mackie
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: there or something or was i lat does he mean
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: i was laughing i think.
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: He means like you were laughing although.
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: Uh laughing at my own comment speaking of tickling if
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: i'm not gonna laugh at my own jokes who will.
• 29:03
  Speaker 5: Ec had a great line last night about a brandon
• 29:06
  Speaker 5: miller foul called you hear him last night oh come
• 29:09
  Speaker 5: on brandon miller called he got a thing he got
• 29:11
  Speaker 5: a tickle fight oh yeah i.
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: Didn't oh yeah he said uh he's who was it
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: with cunningham or no well jenkins was it jenkins yeah
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: it might have been i forget who it was uh
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: they call brandon miller on the weirdest foul like whoever
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: it was robinson i don't even know who it was
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: but whoever it was was grabbing brandon miller and brandon
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: miller just.
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: Slapped his hand off of him got a foul call
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: yeah and uh and uh dell.
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: Duncan robinson brandon miller over there in a tickle fight
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: they called the foul on Brandon.
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: It was Duncan Robinson. It was, right? Yeah.
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: Because if Duncan Robinson doesn't grab a hold of Brandon
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: before he gets the ball, he ain't got no shot.
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: But anyway, so... Yes, EC is always going to EC, baby.
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: Just like the P-Man P-Manned last night.
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: Absolutely. He did. You're all going to get an education.
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: P-Man was nice enough bone in the middle of a
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: 4-0 Charlotte FC win to educate the audience on, I
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: don't know, astronomy probably is what subject he was teaching
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: last night.
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: He's not a broadcaster. He's an educator.
• 30:07
  Speaker 6: He is.
• 30:08
  Speaker 5: By the way, Fitty has gone to his business meeting there.
• 30:11
  Speaker 5: We got his nickname coming up next segment.
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: He is so concerned about this right now. Is he
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: going to like the nickname? Walker Mayo gave him the nickname,
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: but we don't want to tell him that. I'd like
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: to be whispering right now. I don't know why I'm whispering.
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: I really don't know. Trust me, it's noisy where he is.
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: It's true. That is true. All right.
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: Oh, it was Herder. That's who it was. It was
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: the other white dude. It was Herder and Brandon Miller
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: and a tick of Idel. All right, 7-0-4, 5-7-0-9, 6-10.
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: Let's talk a little bit. We're going to talk, obviously,
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: a ton about the game and just kind of what
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: matchups the Panthers can exploit, what are the biggest worries.
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: I'm sure it's going to involve Phillips being out on
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: the edge, the corners being out against this pass attack.
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: It's going to be the offensive line, so we'll talk
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: through that. But right now, let's talk about some of
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: the different trade speculation bone and rumors that are out there.
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: It is that time. We're inside two weeks of the
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: trade deadline.
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: So you're getting a lot of these pieces about like
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: who could be available in the trade or kind of
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: who fits who and all this sort of stuff. There
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: are the position I would most like to see us
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: trade for. I don't say corner. Not that I'd be
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: mad if they traded for a corner, but I do
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: believe it's been it. We're coming up on five weeks.
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: Since Mike Jackson was injured and they said six to
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: eight for him.
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: So I feel, and the last update was they were
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: ahead of schedule horn and Jackson. So I do kind
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: of feel like you could be looking at one or
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: two weeks until Mike Jack. Um, so I say interior
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: D line. Get Derek Brown some help. Derek Brown's taking
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: on double and triple teams and all comers. How about
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: we get someone else in there? So bleach report named
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: Zach Seiler as a trade candidate with the dolphins, Morrow,
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: a Jomo as one of the Eagles trade candidates.
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: He's an interior D lineman. And then a.
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: Guy on expiring contract to Ron Payne, a former high
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: draft pick at Washington. So those are all defensive tackles
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: bone that I'm seeing kind of on these lists.
• 32:05
  Speaker 5: I think it was last year when we were going
• 32:07
  Speaker 5: over the, uh, the Jeremy Fowler list of positional rankings
• 32:11
  Speaker 5: that he does over the summer. Zach Seiler was on
• 32:15
  Speaker 5: the defensive tackle list last year for, I don't know
• 32:18
  Speaker 5: if it was top. 10 or maybe it was in
• 32:20
  Speaker 5: the extended like honorable mention that siler was on there
• 32:23
  Speaker 5: so he's a pretty good yeah he's a pretty good
• 32:25
  Speaker 5: player i don't think pretty good name there it.
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: Doesn't sound like he's having his best season necessarily well
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: either are the dolphins um yeah but nobody is there
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: to your point and uh again i'm just we're just
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: spitballing here about you know holding up against the run
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: better getting yourself some interior uh help um.
• 32:43
  Speaker 5: Also because you're right about addressing that spot there and
• 32:46
  Speaker 5: you you hit on it but it's twofold You're not
• 32:49
  Speaker 5: only getting a player that can just help for the
• 32:51
  Speaker 5: player that he is, but you're freeing up your best
• 32:54
  Speaker 5: dude in Derrick Brown. So you're getting almost two for
• 32:57
  Speaker 5: your buck there. You're helping out up front, but you're
• 33:00
  Speaker 5: maybe getting Derrick Brown back to a level that he
• 33:03
  Speaker 5: can get to.
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: Or at least making them pay if guys are, you
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: know what I mean? If guys are overblocking. And just
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: so worried about Brown, can somebody make them pay for that?
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: The corners that were named on these lists, there's two
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: that stick out. Former Panther Dante Jackson, expiring contract out
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: there with the Chargers, and then Reek Woolen in Philly.
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: ESPN did a whole mock trade bone for the Panthers
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: for Reek Woolen last week, but he's on these lists.
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: And one of these lists was the ESPN top 25
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: guys available at the trade deadline.
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: And there was a Panther that made this list, Bone.
• 33:41
  Speaker 4: Really?
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: Yes. Why do I feel like we've already tried to
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: trade this gentleman?
• 33:45
  Speaker 6: Uh-oh.
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: Jatavian Sanders.
• 33:47
  Speaker 6: Oh, man.
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: He's number eight, by the way, on Fowler's top 25.
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: I feel like he could have been had-boned by now
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: if someone really wanted him. He's had a really quiet
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: year so far.
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: Really quiet. I gotta tell you, he's fresh for his
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: next team right now. He's so fresh. I continue to ask,
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: why is he.
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: Someone was asking why Corey Thornton's still in the practice squad.
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: I continue to ask why Jatavian Sanders is holding an
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: active roster spot. And maybe they want to push this
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: to the trade deadline. Maybe they're still a little worried
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: health wise, you know, about Waller, although he's been really
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: good health wise.
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: But like, I don't know.
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: It just feel it feels like that roster spot could
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: be used in a better fashion than for the fifth
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: tight end.
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: I'm seeing the theme here, Matt.
• 34:30
  Speaker 5: So you you were on the Corey Thornton wagon, right?
• 34:32
  Speaker 5: And that has not worked out. I was all over
• 34:35
  Speaker 5: the J.T. Sanders wagon for a couple years. Oh, we
• 34:38
  Speaker 5: both were, man. I wish I could just pin that
• 34:40
  Speaker 5: on you. We both were, man. I said, man, this
• 34:44
  Speaker 5: guy is going to be the best we've seen since
• 34:46
  Speaker 5: Olsen around here. And it turns out he's playing as
• 34:49
  Speaker 5: much as Olsen does this year. All right, we come
• 34:53
  Speaker 5: back on the Mac and Bone Show.
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: It is You're Doing Too Much. Who's doing too much
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: in the sports world? And yes.
• 34:59
  Speaker 5: The Phitty new name reveal finally happens. We're going to
• 35:03
  Speaker 5: cut the ribbon, Mac, on a new name for Josh Marlow.
• 35:06
  Speaker 5: We're taking Phitty out of there. What's the new name?
• 35:09
  Speaker 5: Sports Radio 92.7 WFNZ. I eat too much. I drink
• 35:13
  Speaker 5: too much.
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: I want too much.
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: Sports Radio 92.7 WFNZ. I'll tell you, the Hornets' passion
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: on this show today is respected. Chubb and a Tubb,
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: 980 number. There's a 704 number as well. All asking,
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: have y'all talked about Nas Reed being benched? And we
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: opened the show with that. We'll talk about it again
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: at 725. We'll bring Sam Farber in on the conversation
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: at 825, Boney. But I appreciate the passion about the
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: Hornets because it's a Panther game day, Boney. And people
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: are tuning in like, I know we're playing tonight at Lambeau,
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: but what the heck do we say about the Nas benching?
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: So anyway, we're going to get back into that one.
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: That was a surprise from Charles Lee. That was a
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: strong statement that he made. Sorry, did you say something?
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: What happened? What happened? Christina Aguilera is on Barstool with
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: some photo thing yesterday. I'm trying to, I got a
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: little bit.
• 36:24
  Speaker 5: That's one of my all-time. That's one of your all-time crushes.
• 36:28
  Speaker 5: One of my all-time base.
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: There you go. I mean, you normally won't listen to me, Bone,
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: but I will excuse it this time. It's excused.
• 36:34
  Speaker 5: I wanted to be honest, and maybe I'm not setting
• 36:37
  Speaker 5: the standard here.
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: Is Christina Aguilera doing too much, or is she doing
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: just the right amount? There's a lot going on there.
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: It doesn't sound like she's wearing too much on those photos. No, no, no.
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: She's not. All right.
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: Let's do it, baby. Let's do a little. We also
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: got to end the segment with the nickname. That Walker male.
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: the director of Fitty Marlowe Marketing here at WFNZ came
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: up with for Fitty. He would like us to float
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: it out there, see if it catches on as an
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: alternative nickname. But I want to start, you're doing too much, people,
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: things that we want to call out for maybe trying
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: a little too hard or maybe just doing too much
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: of a bad thing, Boney.
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: And I'm going to do a twist here.
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: I believe Pat McAfee has been called out in this
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: segment maybe every time since we started it three weeks ago.
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: I'm actually going to call out the McAfee haters. Um, listen, his,
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: his presence all over the place, some of the things
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: he does and says, the drama, some of, some of
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: it annoys me, but he shared a couple of screenshots, Bone,
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: of what he is being sent in terms of threats.
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: Talked about his wife and kids being threatened too in
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: some of these messages he gets. You talk about doing
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: too much. First of all, the idea of sending death
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: threats out to people is something that is done. So
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: freaking often, it is appalling now.
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: It's bad. I mean, it's like your default.
• 37:58
  Speaker 5: Both on a local and national level of what is
• 38:01
  Speaker 5: said in messages, whether it's threatening like Pat McAfee or
• 38:05
  Speaker 5: what the poor female news anchors have to deal with
• 38:07
  Speaker 5: at times as well, or sports reporters. That's a whole
• 38:10
  Speaker 5: different avenue of disgusting.
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: But it's just like, I read that stuff and I do,
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: I think McAfee, you know, could handle it better.
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: Do I think ESPN could maybe.
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: You know, put someone else in a couple of these jobs, Boney,
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: instead of making him work 17 jobs?
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: Probably. But like, no one deserves that, man. It ain't
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: that deep.
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: If Pat McAfee on TV bothers you, watch something else.
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: But it's, it, it, And if you want to say
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: something on social media that I'll say this though, bone,
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: it does, does go to show why I don't understand
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: why the silly Utah stuff bother. I guess he's his,
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: I guess he's very sensitive to this stuff because of
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: the mean stuff he gets, but stop the mean stuff,
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: but like calling him corny. And saying don't take your
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: shirt off really shouldn't be that big of a deal.
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: But this other stuff, man, stop that crap.
• 38:58
  Speaker 5: That seems like a much bigger deal than the actual
• 39:00
  Speaker 5: stuff that he was upset about prior to that. Are
• 39:03
  Speaker 5: we ready for the Stephen A. Smith situation, or do
• 39:06
  Speaker 5: you want me to do one more story before we
• 39:08
  Speaker 5: get to that?
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: Are we in? We're good. All right.
• 39:09
  Speaker 5: Because I have a thing here, Matt, where you can
• 39:11
  Speaker 5: draft kings. Not that I use draft kings. I'm using
• 39:14
  Speaker 5: Caesars now and all they do. But you can bet on... Mack,
• 39:19
  Speaker 5: the political races for next week's election there. Get your
• 39:22
  Speaker 5: Congress bets in for next week on DraftKings. Talk about
• 39:25
  Speaker 5: doing too much. We can't keep politics away from our
• 39:27
  Speaker 5: sports betting apps. You can bet on local politics. in
• 39:30
  Speaker 5: Los Angeles. You can bet on U.S. elections, Congress.
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 39:33
  Speaker 5: Let me tell you, I'll bet on a lot of
• 39:35
  Speaker 5: stuff here. I'm not betting on the Georgia Senate election winner. No,
• 39:38
  Speaker 5: that's doing too much. DraftKings, just do what you're here for.
• 39:41
  Speaker 5: By the way, let me add on to that. Doing
• 39:43
  Speaker 5: too much.
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: These political ads, once again, y'all have done too much
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: bashing of your opponent. I don't know anything about you
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: as a candidate after your ad, but I know the
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: other guy would mutilate a puppy if given the chance. Seriously,
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: at some point, somebody buck the trend and tell us
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: you're good, why you can help.
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: But anyway, I digress, buddy. Max, Stephen A.
• 40:07
  Speaker 5: Smith goes after a lot of players, a lot of coaches,
• 40:09
  Speaker 5: a lot of front offices. And yesterday, Mac, he took
• 40:12
  Speaker 5: aim at Kevin O'Connell, the head coach of the Minnesota Vikings,
• 40:17
  Speaker 5: and his job status at 6-0, the only undefeated team
• 40:23
  Speaker 5: in the league. Why does Stephen A. Mac have an
• 40:25
  Speaker 5: issue with Kevin O'Connell?
• 40:27
  Speaker 7: Kevin O'Connell may be a big-time coach in the National
• 40:29
  Speaker 7: Football League because he's widely respected. Quarterback whisperer and all
• 40:33
  Speaker 7: of this other stuff. He's lucky he's got a damn job. Mensah,
• 40:36
  Speaker 7: the GM, was fired after last season. What happened? Because
• 40:40
  Speaker 7: you let Sam Darnold walk out the door and you
• 40:43
  Speaker 7: handed the reins to J.J. McCarthy, who, in fairness to J.J. McCarthy,
• 40:47
  Speaker 7: hadn't even thrown an NFL pass. We saw him win
• 40:50
  Speaker 7: a national championship in Michigan, tore his meniscus, damaged his meniscus,
• 40:54
  Speaker 7: and was out his rookie year. Comes back last year
• 40:56
  Speaker 7: before he throws an NFL pass. You had him in
• 40:58
  Speaker 7: the range. You cost Justin Jefferson and those boys a
• 41:01
  Speaker 7: year of their career. That's what you did, okay? So
• 41:05
  Speaker 7: the GM took the heat, but damn it, I'm looking
• 41:08
  Speaker 7: at the head coach too. You know what? You had
• 41:10
  Speaker 7: Sam Donald there. You had J.J. McCarthy there. Now you
• 41:14
  Speaker 7: got Kyler Murray there, and we're still saying quarterback, quarterback,
• 41:17
  Speaker 7: quarterback is the issue. So I'm looking at Kevin O'Connell.
• 41:20
  Speaker 7: And I'm saying to myself, where's the boy wonder at?
• 41:23
  Speaker 7: Where's the guy that's supposed to elevate your level of
• 41:26
  Speaker 7: play from the quarterback spot? Even though we're sitting here
• 41:28
  Speaker 7: and talking about Jonathan Taylor potentially being a Minnesota Viking,
• 41:32
  Speaker 7: and that's what they should do.
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: The reason we're talking.
• 41:34
  Speaker 7: About that is because they haven't secured the quarterback position.
• 41:38
  Speaker 7: He has something to do with that.
• 41:40
  Speaker 5: You're talking too much. Mack, year one, he went 13-4
• 41:44
  Speaker 5: as the head coach of the Vikings. Down here, year two.
• 41:47
  Speaker 5: Year three was the Darnold year.
• 41:48
  Speaker 6: 14-3.
• 41:49
  Speaker 5: The McCarthy year, or last year. They were nine and eight.
• 41:54
  Speaker 5: He's still got that. And this year they are six
• 41:58
  Speaker 5: to know he's one of the best coaches in football
• 42:01
  Speaker 5: of all the coaches in this league. Why is that
• 42:04
  Speaker 5: the guy he's taking aim at right now? He's been phenomenal.
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: They're lucky to have a job.
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: And the guy is six and oh, and it's not
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: had a losing season.
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: He's 49 and 25 now in his fifth year.
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: That's a weird take, by the way, it's very possible
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: that Donald being let go, that coach had nothing to
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: do with that.
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: Minnesota. Oh, absolutely. He says the GM gets fired. I
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: wonder why. He was the one that let Darnold go.
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: He drafted McCarthy, so they had to play him.
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: And then, yeah, he drafted McCarthy, the guy that they
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: had to play, the guy that the GM also decided
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: not to pay. So anyway, it's almost like Stephen A
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: might not be an NFL guru, Bo. And I'm not
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: sure what he's a guru of. He used to think
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: it's the NBA, but sometimes it doesn't even sound like
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: he's a guru in that.
• 42:42
  Speaker 5: Someone points out this whole segment is just to make
• 42:45
  Speaker 5: fun of McAfee normally and Stephen H.
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: I know. Maybe there should be some more variety.
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: 704 says, is Tampa Tammy doing too much?
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: Oh, regularly. We hadn't seen her yet today, but 7
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: o'clock is usually her time.
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: But, yes, that is an example of someone in an
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: office doing a little too much.
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: You're 2-5, girl. Quit acting like you beat us to
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: go to the Super Bowl. My God. All right. Is
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: it Fitty new nickname time? It's time.
• 43:08
  Speaker 5: Now, I don't know if this is going to stick, right?
• 43:09
  Speaker 5: Walker wants us to. I honestly, like, if it hurts
• 43:12
  Speaker 5: Fitty's feelings, I don't want it to stick.
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: Clearly.
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: Walker wants this floated out there. He wants y'all to
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: be our focus group, right? Focus group where you kick
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: around ideas right in a work meeting. That's basically what
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: we're doing here. So you want to do the honors, Boe? Yeah,
• 43:33
  Speaker 3: this name came up yesterday in a conversation. We call
• 43:37
  Speaker 3: it Matt checking the mail.
• 43:38
  Speaker 5: Mac and I talk to Walker Mail about 1030 every day,
• 43:41
  Speaker 5: get the vibes, the head show, talk about sports. We
• 43:45
  Speaker 5: were talking about Muggsy Bogue's career and all this, and
• 43:48
  Speaker 5: Spud Webb came up and Walker was going through. shorter
• 43:52
  Speaker 5: players in NBA history. We thought about naming Fiddy Spud
• 43:57
  Speaker 5: for Spud Webb, but then a name popped up, and
• 43:59
  Speaker 5: Walker said, based off both names, how have we not
• 44:03
  Speaker 5: called Josh Fiddy Marlowe Tiny Archibald?
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: Because he's 5'7. Yeah. With no hair.
• 44:10
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: Tiny and bald in the same name. It's a double play.
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: Tiny Archibald. That is a great name. I'd love to
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: be Tiny Archibald.
• 44:19
  Speaker 3: It's a lot better than what just got suggested on
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: the text line by a listener, Fatty Marlowe.
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: That's how Granny Pat spells his name. That is Mr.
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: Sweet Baby Ray suggesting Fatty Marlowe.
• 44:28
  Speaker 5: Granny Pat thought his name was Fatty Monroe for a while. Finney,
• 44:31
  Speaker 5: Tiny Archibald. Great NBA player. Great name. A lot of
• 44:35
  Speaker 5: people would like to name Tiny.
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: Your thoughts? Yeah, I'd rather stay Fiddy. Put it on
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: a poll, Mac. Put it on a poll, Guillermo. All right.
• 44:46
  Speaker 3: So how does that play out there in the focus group?
• 44:48
  Speaker 3: Is Tiny Archibald better, or do you stay with Fiddy,
• 44:52
  Speaker 3: or do you have a write-in vote? Bebop says Doughboy.
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: Now this is getting... Hey. These names are getting meaner
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: than Tiny Archibald, y'all. I lost two pounds last week.
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: I'm on my way. There you go, baby. That's a
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: hell of a week, dude. Keep doing that. The health
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: and prosperity. Noted workout warrior Bebop McGee there. Yes, of course.
• 45:09
  Speaker 3: That is that fitting. Keep doing that, baby. You keep
• 45:13
  Speaker 3: shaving off two pounds a week, bro. People are going
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: to stop with these nicknames, man.
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: Probably not. But the problem is, Tiny Archibald has nothing
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: to do with weight.
• 45:21
  Speaker 3: So unless you go, now I got a new client,
• 45:23
  Speaker 3: Advanced Hair Restoration is back on, Fetty.
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: So I'll put in a good word.
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: And I'm not sure we can stretch you out from
• 45:29
  Speaker 3: the 5'7, you know, short king that you are.
• 45:31
  Speaker 5: And then, you know, you shorten the names down so
• 45:33
  Speaker 5: you'd be Tiny or Archibald, probably, depending on how it goes.
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: Or just bald. Archie? Tiny Archie? All right, we come back.
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: Tiny Archie. Tiny Baldy? All right, we come back.
• 45:45
  Speaker 5: What matchups do you feel good about versus Green Bay,
• 45:48
  Speaker 5: and which ones are warning you the most? It's Matt Bone,
• 45:50
  Speaker 5: Tiny Archibald, Sports Radio, 92.7 WFNZ.