Latest / Coffee People Podcast / Nick Schmitt guest hosts Coffee People to chat the Ice Age Trail Allance collab with The Pinery.
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- 1:16Are we ready to rock? Yeah.
- 1:17Do you want me not? Are the things recording?
- 1:20I think we both recording. Do we even know?
- 1:23Yes, both are recording. Just commit.
- 1:25OK, we're going to find out later, yeah.
- 1:30You could come back and do another one.
- 1:31It's going to be super awkward for me to not be in control like
- 1:36of directing. This is the Coffee People
- 1:39podcast, and for the first time ever, Mr. Reinwalt is not the
- 1:45host. He's a guest on his own show.
- 1:47I feel so uncomfortable. My name is Nick.
- 1:51It's not my first time on this show, but it is my first time in
- 1:54this physical and metaphorical seat of the host.
- 1:59Yeah, the official hosting chair.
- 2:00So today we're going to talk about you guys.
- 2:03Let's do this. Ryan, do you want to kick it off
- 2:07and explain why we've swapped seats today?
- 2:10Sure. Well, I'd start by saying I'm
- 2:12Ryan Wolt, host, kind of host sometimes of the Coffee People
- 2:15podcast and you are. I'm Nolan Baker and I'm a
- 2:19co-owner of the Pioneer Coffee Company here in Wausau, WI.
- 2:23And there's no one I would entrust more with my show than
- 2:26Nick Schmidt from Rostar Coffee Packaging.
- 2:29This guy. We are here today because
- 2:34Rostar's been supporting this collaboration program that I
- 2:36came up with to find small coffee roasters around the
- 2:41country to make a coffee with. I don't have the skills or the
- 2:45talent to roast, but I like to be involved and make people
- 2:48think that I'm important. And Nolan here has this great
- 2:52coffee shop in Wausau, my hometown.
- 2:56And I thought, man, who better? He's roasting sustainably on a
- 3:00bellwether, which I really like and just think it's cool.
- 3:03And in my head I thought, how can we do this but meet that
- 3:07ethos of like local community, sustainable, let's bring in the
- 3:12Ice Age Trail. So we made this coffee.
- 3:14Let me grab that. I don't know where the the
- 3:17camera is, but it's our roast West Coast.
- 3:20It's coffee people podcast and the Pinery collab to support the
- 3:24Ice Age Trail Alliance. And this is literally the first
- 3:30day that it's out. It's the first time I'm drinking
- 3:32it. Normally I'm more involved in
- 3:35the tasting, but I trusted Nolan to take that challenge on
- 3:38because I was on the road. You've been teasing it so well
- 3:41too on your social medias. Like every time I see one, I'm
- 3:44like, he's not trying to get, but I'm I know that this
- 3:48incorporates everything that it is everything that.
- 3:50It is. I well, I think about it every
- 3:52time I see a tree and so it's like a lot.
- 3:56That's a great, that's a great tag.
- 3:58We need to have that always on your mind.
- 4:00Every time you see a tree, you think of the pinery.
- 4:02You think of this coffee and then you you order it.
- 4:06You spend that money. What, what, what kind of coffee
- 4:09is this Nolan and how did you how did you roast it?
- 4:11Do you know like Ryan's taste in coffee a little bit?
- 4:14You tried to appease that. How how did you how did you make
- 4:17this a little a little different for maybe your average roast?
- 4:20Or is it fitting to this partnership and the collab with
- 4:24Ice Age Trail in any way? Yeah, so this is a Costa Rica
- 4:28and we roasted on medium. It's a honey processed Costa
- 4:33Rica, which is awesome. And last year I had the absolute
- 4:38pleasure of meeting Ryan and we had a couple just amazing
- 4:43conversations out on our front. What would you call it?
- 4:46Patio, Patio, We'll call it patio.
- 4:49It's A and just some amazing conversations and we were
- 4:52roasting Papua New Guinea at that point and.
- 4:56Which really I want to just interject and say I came here
- 5:00the first time and had that coffee and it's why I came back
- 5:03because I normally go to a different place every day, but
- 5:06for the whole time I was in town, I only came here.
- 5:09We snagged you, yeah. And we actually, we do have a 12
- 5:13oz for you to take home of the Papua New Guinea.
- 5:15We were able to wrangle that up. The only reason I did.
- 5:17Yeah. So the, the Papua New Guinea and
- 5:21even the one that we had from the lot last year, but then the
- 5:24lots that we were finding this year definitely have more of
- 5:27that earthy taste to them. And so it, it had a lot of
- 5:32really great flavour notes. Nick and I tried it a few times
- 5:35here and we, we wanted to make sure that we could also speak to
- 5:41the water wider coffee audience too.
- 5:44We know that the Ice Age Trail just encompasses encompasses so
- 5:48many different groups of folks and stretches all the way across
- 5:52the state of Wisconsin. You're connecting that Lake MI
- 5:55side where you were hiking a little earlier all the way over
- 5:58to kind of Twin Cities areas. And so there's just a really big
- 6:04swath of people that are involved who are going to get
- 6:07inexperienced with this Ice Age Trail collaboration.
- 6:10So we wanted to find something that had a few more sweet notes
- 6:15to it. And we landed on the Costa Rica
- 6:17in the the hunting process with kind of that thought in mind
- 6:21where we still wanted to honor some of that flavor profile that
- 6:24you fell in love with. But we also wanted to make sure
- 6:26that we were opening it up to the largest audience, so.
- 6:30For sure. And Nolan was back and forth
- 6:32with me, I mean the whole time trying to get me samples of
- 6:35things, but I was so all over the place for the summer.
- 6:38But just talking about, I know we really both like the Papua
- 6:41New Guinea, but hey, here's what we're feeling with this Costa
- 6:44Rica. Everyone on our tasting line is
- 6:47feeling this way, and I just trusted that they were going to
- 6:50do the right thing. To me, this coffee is like I I
- 6:55really enjoy the bright, fruity, kind of crazier coffees.
- 7:00I also really enjoy like a nice bold, more rich coffee.
- 7:03Both a very different times feel like like if I'm outside or
- 7:08hiking or camping, I want something that's like a little
- 7:10bit more full and rich. And this is like as close, like
- 7:14down the middle as you can get without tipping towards like the
- 7:18the too fruity, too light. It's a daily driver.
- 7:21It's an everyday coffee that you're not going to get sick of.
- 7:24That's not going to be overwhelming.
- 7:27It's going to be that that moment in the morning where it's
- 7:32cold, like this morning was kind of gloomy and you get a cup of
- 7:36coffee and you go, everything's OK today.
- 7:40That's like the goal, right? Yeah, everything's OK.
- 7:43And it shows up really well, like playing around with it,
- 7:47like dialing it in with our like espresso machine.
- 7:50It's been really fun. The Oxo Rapid Brewer has been
- 7:54awesome with it. We've done it as pour overs and
- 7:58kind of the folks on our back end who have been tasting it
- 8:01have really, really enjoyed it kind of on a plethora of
- 8:04different. Trials.
- 8:07So you guys have been teasing this coffee in this
- 8:09collaboration for a while, but back at the very beginning,
- 8:13whose? Whose idea was it?
- 8:14Who approached to? What was the reaction?
- 8:18I honestly don't remember. I think I emailed Nolan just or
- 8:23called you maybe on the phone while I was in the car.
- 8:28And it just was like, hey, I have this idea and I think it
- 8:31would be fun. And also we should support trees
- 8:35somehow. Yes, because we both like trees
- 8:38and it's obviously ingrained in the theme here.
- 8:41And he just said, Yep, OK. And that was about the extent of
- 8:44like the back and forth negotiation and.
- 8:47A terrible negotiation. Yeah, a few e-mail, I said,
- 8:49well, I don't want to keep any of the money.
- 8:50And he said, OK. And you know, because we have
- 8:54the support from Rostar with the packaging, we were able to say,
- 8:57hey, who's a partner that would come in.
- 9:00And Nolan I think was right away.
- 9:01It was like, you know, the Ice Age trail comes right through
- 9:04here. And so we were excited about
- 9:06that. Yeah, I was excited about that
- 9:08cause I've hiked on that trail and been part of it.
- 9:11And as you mentioned, just yesterday or day before, I was
- 9:14at the Eastern terminus and not even intentionally, I wasn't to
- 9:19promote this, no marketing foresight whatsoever.
- 9:22I just was in the park and I went, oh.
- 9:24No matter where in the state you are, it's really easy to just
- 9:27stumble on it. Yeah, yeah.
- 9:29On the the Ice Age Trail is great 'cause like I, I moved
- 9:33here from Washington state and it was great after grad school
- 9:37and everything, finding a community that had the Ice Age
- 9:40Trail ingrained into it and that was hiking and exploring outside
- 9:44and just getting involved in nature was so easy through the
- 9:47Ice Age Trail. So, yeah, we've been able to be
- 9:51a part of their their different challenges, the mammoth
- 9:54challenge that they have going on right now.
- 9:56And it's it's been really fun to just be ingrained in that a
- 10:01little bit more. So yeah, Ice Age Trail was easy
- 10:03to think of. Ryan, this, this overarching
- 10:09show is called Roast West Coast. We're not on the West Coast
- 10:13right now. We we've talked about WASA and
- 10:16the Midwest plenty on your show, but how does it feel to actually
- 10:19have a project that's rooted in Wisconsin, let alone your
- 10:23hometown of WASA? Pausing, we're in an active
- 10:30coffee shop, so every now and again you're going to get some
- 10:32background noise. So Rose West Coast was what I
- 10:36named the show when it was just supposed to be San Diego, where
- 10:40I lived 'cause I didn't expect this to continue growing.
- 10:45We became the Coffee People podcast a few years ago, in part
- 10:50because Kat Melheim of the Coffee People Zine, which was
- 10:53amazing. I decided to kind of pause that
- 10:56and and move on and gave us her her blessing for that.
- 10:59And even though I've been based on the West Coast, I've always
- 11:05had this connection here, both through Rostar, a connection
- 11:08with you, which I met you in Los Angeles and just saw that it
- 11:11said Wausau on the tag. And then coming back here and
- 11:14getting coffee and seeing the coffee community grow with some
- 11:18other great coffee shops that have opened up in the area since
- 11:21I've been gone. When we moved, I think there was
- 11:25Panera Bread and maybe like one other place for coffee.
- 11:28So things have definitely progressed, progressed quite a
- 11:31bit. No shade to Panera Bread, they
- 11:33do their own. The bread thing is their thing.
- 11:37Great bagels, Great bagels. Great bagels.
- 11:39Yeah. Panera sponsor us.
- 11:41I think what the the big thing is as far as that connection
- 11:44goes is my family is all here. There's a company that I partner
- 11:50with that is based here now. There's this coffee shop that I
- 11:54feel at home in here. And so it keeps me connected to
- 11:59where I came from. Like I'm always going to be from
- 12:01Wausau. I'm always going to be, I always
- 12:03identify as a Wisconsin. I, I love all the places that
- 12:07we've lived and all the places we've been.
- 12:09And I certainly am excited to continue that journey wherever
- 12:13it takes us. But you don't.
- 12:15At my core, this is this is what made me who I was.
- 12:19Was this place good or bad? I would like to point out
- 12:24because, you know, it's just it's that that place that you
- 12:28identify as home. And the second you come in, it
- 12:32makes you feel that way. And that's what I find and look
- 12:34for in coffee shops all over the world now.
- 12:37And sometimes you walk through the doors of a place and you
- 12:41feel like, yeah, this is it. This is I'm going to, I'm not
- 12:45even going to look for another place.
- 12:47I'm sitting here for the entire time that I'm drinking coffee or
- 12:50working or whatever. And and so I would say pride is
- 12:54probably the right word to use, but I think more than that,
- 12:57it's. Comfort.
- 13:00I love that. All set.
- 13:04All those Midwest vibes. Yeah, Midwest nice.
- 13:08You know Midwest nice. At the end of this I'm going to
- 13:10go whelp and stand up and then walk.
- 13:12Away. Yeah, No, yeah.
- 13:15Yeah. Nolan, being a current WASA
- 13:20resident, not having grown up here, how, how does like you're
- 13:25kind of meeting in WASA like a weird same time, sort of how,
- 13:31how have you interpreted Wasa since being here, opening a
- 13:33coffee shop? Like how were you first taken in
- 13:38by the community versus like where you are at now?
- 13:41Yeah. So, Oh man, that's that's good.
- 13:44I didn't think the question was going to.
- 13:45Come back, sorry, it got a little bit deeper as I was
- 13:46talking. I love that.
- 13:48No, SO I came to to Wausau when I, when my my spouse, when I got
- 13:56married and I was living in the Fox Valley area where I was
- 14:01practicing and everything. And we kind of were talking
- 14:05about the pros and cons of each place.
- 14:07And we said, OK, Wausau has really everything you need.
- 14:10Plus it has the great outdoors, plus we can kayak, plus we can
- 14:13bike, plus we can hike. And so that's what took the
- 14:16scales for Wausau. And then once we got out here
- 14:20and started getting into the community, it was it was great
- 14:25to start just seeing the coffee community that is here.
- 14:31And actually the first time that I ever was in Wausau, I went to
- 14:35what's now Tuckney Coffee. And I remember they had these
- 14:39like gorgeous little blossoming trees and I was just rolling
- 14:44through here on my way to like a campsite north of here.
- 14:48I was like, this is just the coolest little town.
- 14:50I love it. Great coffee.
- 14:52And now coming back here is kind of fun to be a part of the
- 14:55scene. And the the partners for the
- 14:58Pinery just we're all relatively transplants to the the Wausau
- 15:04area. And we just feel like Wausau
- 15:06doesn't know how cool it is, what it can be and what it's
- 15:09becoming. And it's great to see now
- 15:12popping up all around us, you know, new places to live, new
- 15:16things to do, and just pouring into the biking community.
- 15:21Rim Mountain is getting a huge mountain bike trail overhaul.
- 15:25There's a big project to get some about 1000 miles of gravel
- 15:30trail mapped out around here. We've got the Great Heritage
- 15:34Pioneering Waterway, which is a mapped trail system for kayaking
- 15:38and then of course the the Ice Age Trail.
- 15:40So it's great to be a part of a community that's pouring into
- 15:44the outdoors that understands who and what it is.
- 15:47And it's that's why we came here and it's been great to see that.
- 15:51And when we get to build coffee community around something like
- 15:54that, it's humbling. Really, really humbling.
- 15:58And I heard that they might be adding camping back to the
- 16:00mountain again, which is the 1st place that I ever went camping
- 16:05when there still was a campground up there.
- 16:06I love that. I've never been camping there.
- 16:10I think that that stopped by the time that it would have really
- 16:12started camping. Yeah, it's been a long time.
- 16:15I'm very, very old. So.
- 16:19Tell us the ways. Teach us.
- 16:22I'd love to hear a little bit about the the design that you
- 16:24guys chose to represent the coffee in the collaboration.
- 16:28Ryan, if I'm not mistaken, you you did the the actual design
- 16:31work. I did do some of the design work
- 16:34on the bag, like the concept. I have several collabs and there
- 16:39had to be some connecting theme and it was the gradient color
- 16:41scheme. But with the pinery, we wanted
- 16:45to make sure that it told a story.
- 16:47We each kind of have a side panel and then the back is kind
- 16:50of devoted to the Ice Age trail. There's a little bit more of a
- 16:53informative event to it, but each of them is unique.
- 16:58Even though it's part of a series of collabs with different
- 17:00businesses. I feel like this one really
- 17:03represents, it's not overwhelming, but it's but
- 17:06there's a terrain map on the side that kind of sits behind
- 17:08everything. We've got some ghosted trees in
- 17:11there and then obviously the three trees in the front because
- 17:14it's real Star, the finery and then Coffee people podcast.
- 17:19And so all of that came together and then whoever picks up this
- 17:22bag, which is also recyclable, which is cool, they're going to
- 17:28learn about each of these three kind of pillars of the collab
- 17:31and be able to go find more information if they want.
- 17:34And worst case, they pick up the bag, they never look at any of
- 17:37it and they still love the coffee.
- 17:40So it's a win all around. It's fantastic.
- 17:44Yeah, I love this. When I when I got the the bags
- 17:47in or when you sent me the proofs, like I immediately fell
- 17:51in love. And I love the the gradients and
- 17:53how that connects with all of your different collab roasts.
- 17:57I think that that's fantastic. And then the the one thing that
- 18:00I geeked out so hard on and all the staff loved was the release
- 18:04poster that you made too. Yeah, the aliens.
- 18:07I really. I don't.
- 18:09So we should grab that poster. I can grab one.
- 18:12We'll grab that. I I brought this to show you.
- 18:15I didn't even know I had it with me, but when I thought of the
- 18:21poster, which is a little bit different than our bag.
- 18:24I don't know where I was, but I sketched something down on a
- 18:27piece of paper this morning. I couldn't find my the notepad
- 18:31I'm working in right now. OK, the first one I grabbed this
- 18:34was in it and it's this was the original sketch.
- 18:39I love that, which is obviously the skill set that I have for
- 18:42sketching. And we're going to grab one of
- 18:45these posters here, yes? Thank you so much.
- 18:48Thank you, Sadie. And then so that became this.
- 18:55I'm not sure how exactly, but we'll make sure that we put it
- 18:59up on the screen. While we're at it getting close
- 19:02to the end, where where can we find the Pinery and well, Rose
- 19:07West Coast? If you're hearing this podcast,
- 19:09you know how to find Rose West Coast where?
- 19:12Where can we buy the coffee? Is it available on your website?
- 19:15Can like people not in WASA? Can they buy it anywhere?
- 19:18Yeah. So you can link back to our
- 19:21websites from our socials or just the Pioneer Coffee co.com
- 19:27any, any way that you want to get back to to us that that's
- 19:31kind of the ways. And then we have merch for like,
- 19:34the sweaters and all that. But then we have a special,
- 19:36like, coffee column also, so you can get to our, like, beans.
- 19:41You can buy it. We ship anywhere, like within
- 19:45the 48 states. So yeah, yeah, that's not really
- 19:48everywhere, but it's anywhere within the 48th.
- 19:50Most places. Yeah.
- 19:52Yeah. Many of the places, yeah.
- 19:55One last question before we welcome in our special guest
- 19:57from the Ice Age Trail if this collaboration in coffee in a
- 20:03relationship overall was a mix tape.
- 20:06Is there a song or an album or an artist that would best
- 20:10capture it? Nolan.
- 20:15Oh my gosh. Oh, I sent this one to them
- 20:19ahead of time. They've had about 24 hours to
- 20:21think about it and I don't think either of them has an answer
- 20:23yet. So I have AI have an answer that
- 20:28is a it's a feeling. So a lot of times when I'm on
- 20:32the road or I'm driving through, like we just drove through Upper
- 20:37Michigan into Wisconsin and it's hours and hours of driving
- 20:42through the woods. We're in the Hiawatha National
- 20:44Forest. I came down along Sturgeon Bay
- 20:48and I keep listening to Lord Huron, which is a band that I
- 20:51like and they kind of these big swelling, emotional songs that
- 20:56get you a little teary eyed. But I think it's it's the same
- 21:00feeling I have when I walk out into the woods and I'm alone and
- 21:03I'm I'm quiet and where I'm with my wife and the dog.
- 21:07And I think it's a place for whatever reason, I associate
- 21:13this coffee and being out in nature with that particular
- 21:17band. And it's kind of their whole
- 21:19series there. They got a playlist on Spotify
- 21:20list too. We can link to it in the show.
- 21:23That would be my answer. And it was so good, Nolan.
- 21:27You may not even need one. I love that so much.
- 21:31I love that and I'm, I'm, I'm, we're so in tune.
- 21:34That's going to be mine. That's.
- 21:35The one. That's why they're collaborated,
- 21:37yeah. That's on the same page.
- 21:39You don't even have to like. Worry.
- 21:41It was on the tip of my tongue. It's crazy because I was also
- 21:44going to say that same exact thing, too.
- 21:45Yeah, yeah. Oh my.
- 21:51Well, is there any, is there anything else that we didn't get
- 21:53to that you guys want to talk about?
- 21:56I think. Yes, or something you're most
- 21:59proud of through this? Well, I'd just like to say thank
- 22:01you like both Rosar and Nolan have been.
- 22:04You guys have been so accommodating.
- 22:07I sometimes I get this, this idea in my head and it just sort
- 22:11of sticks there and till it comes out somehow.
- 22:15And in this case, it came out in the form of, like, this really
- 22:19tasty coffee tasting notes of chocolate and citrus and a
- 22:24smooth finish, which I memorized from Nolan's notes.
- 22:29But I actually can taste and feel a little bit of the citrus
- 22:33right now. I just think it's cool when
- 22:36small businesses get together, not in a competitive way, but
- 22:41just to say, hey, we see what you're doing.
- 22:43We appreciate it. Yeah, we'd like to do something
- 22:45with you. And I think coffee in particular
- 22:48is really good at doing that. But at this time in history,
- 22:53when things in the business world and the economy, politics
- 22:57are a little bit unstable, having people that you can
- 23:01depend on and lean on, even if, you know, yes, there's like
- 23:05we're selling this product and we're giving the money away to
- 23:09the Ice Age trail or I'm, you know, we're, we're working that
- 23:11out somehow and we want to make a living.
- 23:15But it's also this emotional pillar.
- 23:17It's somebody to lean on that knows what you're going through.
- 23:20They've been through a battle with you.
- 23:22It's kind of like, you know, you're part of a team now, and
- 23:25that's what I think is really cool about this collab and all
- 23:27the collabs that we're doing with Rostar and other roasters,
- 23:30including the finery, you know. I love that.
- 23:34Also, I want to point out that Nick has a super cool Carhartt
- 23:37vest on. Thank you.
- 23:39I was hoping I was hoping you'd notice.
- 23:41I've never. Been cool enough to wear a
- 23:42Carhartt so I just wanted to to point.
- 23:45That, yeah, I have some, you know, welding to go do after
- 23:49this, yeah. Normally when he comes in the
- 23:51door, we have to ask him to leave the chainsaws outside.
- 23:54He brought his camera equipment today, not the chainsaws, which
- 23:56was really. Appreciated.
- 23:58Yeah. It's a.
- 23:59Little awkward out the door. Nick, thank you so much for
- 24:01taking over the guest hosting. Do you mind if I take that seat
- 24:04back though to talk to Sarah from the Ice Age Trail?
- 24:06Absolutely. Thanks so much.
- 24:08This was a lot of fun. You are like two of my favorite
- 24:11coffee people, and I don't know that I've ever been in the same
- 24:13state as both of you at the same time.
- 24:15So to be under one roof on the show together is really fun.
- 24:19I appreciate it so much, Nick. Yeah.
- 24:21Cheers. I got an empty one here.
- 24:23Bang right there. Thanks so much, Ryan.
- 24:28I love it. I love it too.
- 25:20How you feeling? How you feeling?
- 25:22How you feeling? How you feeling?
- 25:23How you feeling? I'm feeling good.
- 25:25Feeling good, feeling good, feeling good.
- 25:32Time to bag up the last batch that we just roasted.
- 25:35We're going to grab our roast star bags.
- 25:37We'll grab this little roast star.
- 25:40Handy forming shoe. Just pop that open, take that
- 25:43down and this saves us so much time so much time, so much time
- 25:47and then we're just going to fill this up to a 12 ounce right
- 25:50here we're. Working in a bit of a confined
- 25:52space, but. That's.
- 25:54Because you have the luxury of being right inside of the cafe,
- 25:56so customers are right behind us.
- 25:58So that's a bag. Awesome.
- 26:00Boom, one down. 754 more to go. So that guy's got a coffee cup
- 26:05on the back of his truck. Oh no, Oh no, there's a
- 26:08pioneering latte. Oh no.
- 26:11Since getting into the custom printed bags, yeah, have you
- 26:14noticed any changes in how customers view your coffee?
- 26:18So where we started with the bags were you know, craft brown
- 26:23bags all handwritten for the Ethiopia right now since this is
- 26:27a seasonal special, we are handwriting the the name on it.
- 26:31The one that has the name printed on there just has a lot
- 26:33more validity. With the custom printed bags
- 26:36we've actually been able to get into places that have needed the
- 26:38barcodes, some places that also need a use by date.
- 26:43With the craft bags, we weren't able to get into as many places
- 26:48because the validity of our product really wasn't there when
- 26:51we are having a hand write all the different information.
- 26:57Well, this has been fun, Nolan, but I think I'm going to leave
- 27:00you to bag the rest of this. Only 759 more to go.
- 27:06Thank you for your help, Nick. Thank you.
- 27:08You're hired. Thank you.