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The Difference Between Knowing God CAN and Believing He WILL · Heaven & Healing Podcast

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  Fear is not the absence of faith. Fear
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  is inverted faith. You're still
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  believing something. You are just
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  believing the lie. It's this
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  Americanized, I went to church on
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  Sunday. I'm doing my due diligence. I've
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  got my ticket into heaven. And you don't
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  even build up your faith then. So yeah,
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  how can you believe? All you need is
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  him. That sounds too good to be true.
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  But so did the man on the cross. Jesus
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  magnifies your faith made you well. If
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  we're saved by grace through faith, why
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  is this the one thing people struggle
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  with so much? You're getting your fix
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  instead of waiting on the Lord,
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  depositing these seeds of faith, letting
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  them have time to soak so they can
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  sprout up and you can see the harvest of
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  your faith. He wants you to live
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  painfree. Where are you going to pray
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  past these areas already believing God's
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  going to do it? People are just offended
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  in their own heart already. They filter
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  everything through the wound rather than
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  the word. When you see my harvest, but
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  you don't see my seeds, and you don't
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  see my tears, you don't see my time
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  here. You don't see my doubts and my
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  questions that I'm asking. You only see
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  the fruit publicly. You're wondering,
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  "Well, that's prosperity. That sounds
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  too good to be true." No, you don't see
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  me on my face. But if you got on your
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  face, you experienced it for yourself.
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  That's why we share our testimony. Just
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  say, "Go to the secret place. Go get
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  what we've got from the well that never
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  runs dry." This can be your story, too.
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  Hey everyone, welcome back. So today I
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  am welcoming my dear dear friend and
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  sister in Christ, Pastor Georgia
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  Williams. She is also an author and more
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  importantly she is a mama and a wife
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  which the testimony of her birth we are
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  going to get into today because we're
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  going to talk all things faith. Imagine
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  that because as Christians that's you
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  know it's impossible to please God
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  without it. And uh I want to hand it
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  right over to you. Thank you for being
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  here.
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  >> Thanks for having me.
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  >> You are also Oh gosh. a worship leader.
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  >> Yeah. Like the best worship leader ever.
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  >> Oh, you're sweet.
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  >> Yeah.
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  >> I love it. It's so fun. I never thought
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  I'd be doing this with my life,
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  honestly.
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  >> Really?
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  >> Yeah. No, for sure. It's it's the best
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  part of me is is just living in that
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  overflow of the the Sunday mornings and
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  the Wednesday nights of leading worship.
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  But that's not our foundation. It's it's
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  this private time encounter. And so,
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  >> yeah, thanks for having me, sis.
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  For anybody that doesn't know, how did
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  you encounter the Lord? How did you get
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  involved in ministry and worship and all
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  the things and then we'll
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  >> move to the topic.
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  >> Absolutely. So, I did grow up in the
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  church. I grew up Lutheran, which I
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  didn't know denominations, all that. I
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  just thought our church was called Peace
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  Lutheran Church. That's what we went to.
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  Four generations of my family went
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  there. So, it was great grandparents,
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  grandparents, my parents, and us, my
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  aunt and uncle. Like, we were all there.
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  And I just thought that was normal,
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  right? and we just did our thing and
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  church ended up having two campuses, a
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  traditional one and a contemporary one.
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  And in our little hometown, we had a
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  furniture store. So all the furniture
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  was from my parents' furniture store.
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  And so we were all in, right? I stopped
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  going to Sunday school at age nine and I
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  wanted to join the worship team. So I
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  sang up there with my grandpa. Like we
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  were all in with all the church stuff
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  back in the day. and my mom did puppet
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  ministry
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  >> in the '9s of like
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  >> so cute
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  >> Jesus like like we were all in. Okay.
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  And so then when I was about 12, the
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  denomination as a whole was going
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  through a a denominational split. And at
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  the time like I didn't really understand
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  that much and my parents weren't giving
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  me much language uh to what was
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  happening. But now what I know now is
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  they one of the big topics at hand was
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  are we going to have a gay pastor or
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  not? like is this denomination gonna
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  allow that? Wow.
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  >> And do we agree?
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  >> And you know this was years ago when
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  this was not really talked about. You
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  know, I don't even know if Ellen
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  Degenerous came out yet on TV. You know
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  what I'm saying? Like this was not
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  highly just cultural as it is now.
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  >> And so I remember I sang a song at that
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  meeting and it was a Natalie Grant song
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  called Bring It All Together. And then
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  they had the meeting and they took all
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  the kids out and then we went to the
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  playground. And all I remember is we
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  never went to that church again. And I
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  was like, "Oh." And I thought it was
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  because I just didn't sing good enough
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  or something. I listened to that little
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  tape of me singing it over and over,
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  bring it all together. I'm like, "Lord,
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  what what happened? What did I do?" And
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  that was it. Half of the church left.
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  And that was like my first experience
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  with church hurt of like, "Oh my gosh,
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  like what happened?" So then at 12 and a
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  half, they handed me a himnil and we
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  started a little home church. and they
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  said, "Geeorge, you're going to be our
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  worship leader. You play piano. It'll be
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  great." So, overnight, I went from a kid
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  to a leader. I was also the youth group.
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  I was also the the worship minister. And
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  so, I just had to grow up pretty quick
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  overnight and just do what needed to be
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  done. And there was no like
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  accountability, no leadership, no like
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  anything that a kid just needs to be a
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  kid. So, from 12 until 18 here, I was
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  leading worship not because I wanted to,
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  but because I had to. And so I knew who
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  God was, but up until this point I
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  haven't had an encounter with Jesus. I
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  would try to read my Bible. I would try
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  to pray, but it was just more church was
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  what we did. And we prayed before bed
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  and around the table, but it wasn't this
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  lifestyle of what I know now.
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  >> And so I truly believe when I
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  encountered the Lord, it was when I left
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  the nest. We were on our way to go to
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  college here in Tennessee to study
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  songwriting. And you know, all that dorm
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  stuff was filled to the brim in our
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  little van and we're crossing over the
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  Memphis Bridge into Tennessee from
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  Arkansas. And I just remember looking
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  out the window and it was the most
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  sincere, simple conversation with the
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  Lord. All I said was is God, I just want
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  to be the best version of myself here.
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  I'd never moved in my life. Never had to
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  make new friends. Didn't even really
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  know my college roommate going into all
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  this. But with that simple surrender of
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  a yes of like, "Hey, the best me is
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  you."
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  That was it. I got off a platform. I
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  joined a local church. I held a door. I
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  got into a small group. I got to fall in
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  love with Jesus. I would wake up at 6:00
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  a.m. to like learn to read my Bible. And
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  like my capacity was just a Bible verse.
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  Like I I wasn't reading full chapters.
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  It wasn't. It was just this simple
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  one foot in front of another faith of
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  like this has been my whole life, but
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  now it's up to me if I go and read my
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  Bible. It's up to me if I go to church.
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  It's up to me if I eat or make my bed or
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  go to class, you know, and do all the
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  things. And so, it's just been this slow
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  obedience, but it's been these building
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  blocks that's been instilled in me. And
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  then now I get to be the one to actually
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  make it real for me. And now it's become
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  truly personal.
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  >> I loved every second of that. Thank you
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  for sharing. Thanks for listening and
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  asking.
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  >> How did you begin serving at the church
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  that you're at now?
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  >> Oh man. So, I was just freshly out of
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  college and gosh, it was around 2020
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  when
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  >> Really? Oh, wow.
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  >> The world was just going to hell in a
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  hand basket. And the church that I was
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  at before being at Global Vision, I
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  remember uh it was right before COVID,
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  so that March was when that hit. So,
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  that December for their for their
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  Christmas offering. I was like sitting
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  there with my little college tithe. I
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  was so excited to give to this Christmas
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  offering. What are we going to do? What
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  are we going to bless? And I remember I
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  was on the front row. I just was so
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  excited. I was like, "Okay, what are we
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  going to give?" And they said, "This
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  Christmas, our offering is going towards
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  a new parking lot." And I remember being
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  like,
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  "Huh?" Like what? And they were all
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  excited to be able to serve more people
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  and all that. something in my spirit was
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  like what and I didn't know what I know
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  now and operating in the gifts and
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  flowing and all these things but that
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  little tug in me of like I don't think
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  this is like maybe exactly right and
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  then 3 months later when you know the
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  whole world shut down and no one's in a
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  church I'm like I don't know about all
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  this and so something was stirring in me
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  that I'm like there has to be more there
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  has to be more and so during this time I
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  somehow found Global Vision and I was
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  like gosh this this man this pastor
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  knows the word of God, like knows it.
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  And he doesn't even know my name, but I
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  can tell you for a fact that he would
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  take a bullet for me. And truly, a
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  shepherd laying his life down for the
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  sheep. And so, I just started going by
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  myself. And like, that was scary enough,
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  like going to church by yourself, I'd
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  show up right at 10:29 before the church
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  started at 10:30. Somehow, there was
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  always a little seat on the front row
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  and I would just come expecting. And I
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  was getting fed for the first time in a
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  long time. And I just kept going and
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  going and going. And then one time, it
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  was so crazy. I was driving home. I
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  lived about 45 minutes from the church.
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  And the Holy Spirit fell in my car so
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  heavy. I've never felt like this before.
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  He was like in that passenger seat. He
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  should have put his seatelt on cuz it
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  was crazy. And all I heard the Lord say
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  was is you're going to write songs with
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  them.
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  >> Wow.
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  >> And I was like, well, I'd have to be on
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  the worship team for that to happen. And
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  when I tell you 3 weeks later, I was on
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  the worship team, it happened. And it
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  wasn't until about a year and a half, 2
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  years later that, you know, the the
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  songwriting culture began as just things
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  progressed and and had to get in order
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  with God's will. It was just so
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  beautiful. But gosh, here I am. I met my
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  husband leading worship at Global
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  Vision. And um now we pastor and it's
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  truly like my favorite thing. Like I
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  love it. I've learned such new language.
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  I'm not a worship leader. I'm a Levite.
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  Like, I get to lay my life down, not on
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  the platform, but on the altar. It's
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  just been this great exchange of of
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  language, of love, and I just I love
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  life. It's so great.
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  >> Yeah. And that's that's one of the
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  things that I am just so drawn to you
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  because of your countenance is just so
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  full of joy. And it's not like worldly
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  happiness, you know? It's nothing that's
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  superficial. You can just anyone
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  watching, I'm sure they see it too. It's
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  just literally him. Like I just see the
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  Holy Spirit in you and through you. I I
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  can see that you spend a lot of time
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  with him. I can see that you know him. I
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  can see that you are completely
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  surrendered and that you trust him. Like
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  you know that you know that you know
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  that the Lord has you and is keeping
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  you. And it's so inspiring for me,
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  especially as another woman in ministry.
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  Um, I haven't been walking with the Lord
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  as long as you have, but to just see the
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  way that you carry yourself in him, it
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  really is just like it's something to
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  admire as another woman, and I'm sure a
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  lot of women in that church do look up
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  to you for that same reason. And it
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  translates also through your worship as
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  well. Like you set the atmosphere
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  through that joy.
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  >> And it's just yeah, you really invite
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  the presence of the Lord in with that.
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  So I just want to honor you for that.
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  >> Thank you. But I want to kind of go back
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  to that point of your complete trust and
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  surrender and faith in the Lord because
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  you know when
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  I don't I don't remember even how we got
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  on the subject of talking when you were
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  pregnant with Jack about the painfree
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  birth thing.
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  >> Yeah.
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  >> I don't know if you had just like found
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  my testimony.
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  >> Yeah, I think so. It was so inspiring
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  like reading your story. I think it was
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  on I think it was SA's first birthday
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  and you said I'm going to recap my
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  birth. I think it was that post. I
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  remember saving it and being like I
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  needed this right now.
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  >> Were you pregnant at the time? Okay.
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  >> So, I remember when you reached out to
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  me. Yes. Uh about that
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  >> and you're like okay I I I need to like
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  you have no idea how much I need this
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  and I need to like know all the things
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  Yeah.
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  >> pertaining to this subject cuz I don't
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  know if you had even ever heard of it
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  before
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  >> the idea of a painfree birth.
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  >> I had. It's so funny because like years
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  before I followed this account and I
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  think it was called painfree birth. I
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  think that's what it was. And you know
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  sifting through like okay I believe this
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  is of God and maybe these other like
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  methods and things. I'm like okay. So
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  I'm like learning right and just
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  educating myself. And so for years I'd
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  been fascinated with home births and all
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  that because like this was far before
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  being married and all that. I'm like I
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  need to just be educated because someday
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  that's probably going to be my story.
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  Like I I need to figure some things out.
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  And so I always was drawn to it. I think
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  life is just so beautiful, right? And
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  that's why the enemy is after us so bad
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  cuz he's the author of death trying to
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  be he thinks he's got all this power.
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  But really us women, the last thing God
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  created, we are the ones that bring
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  forth life. And so it's so beautiful to
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  see. And so seeing that you had
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  experienced that, I know what God does
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  for one man, he does for another. And so
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  I was like, "Okay, sister, share with me
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  this."
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  There's so many voices and everyone
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  always tries to get into your head and
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  without even asking you get all that
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  unsolicited advice. Well, my my birth
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  this, oh my child this, oh that one
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  almost broke me in half. I'm like, okay,
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  I didn't even ask. And so here was me
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  like, okay, I am asking like share with
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  me. And you really encouraged me during
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  that time and even to like you telling
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  me, "Okay, Georgia, there's a difference
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  between pain and sensation and like
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  having these nuggets to like go into my
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  heart as I trust you and so so many
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  countless people trust your voice and
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  your story and it has encouraged them.
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  It's like literally personally
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  encouraged me that yes, I did have pain
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  free pain-free birth and you know what,
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  next baby I'm gonna have another one
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  because it goes from glory to glory. And
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  so then I had you on.
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  >> He just kicked when you said that.
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  >> Yeah. Hey, baby boy.
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  >> I'm telling you, boys are so fun. You're
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  just going to have a blast. Oh my gosh.
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  So, yeah, that painfree birth is a whole
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  miracle in and of itself.
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  >> Yes. I remember saying to Mike,
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  >> if anyone's going to have this and
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  experience it the way I did, it's going
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  to be Georgia because I had
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  >> I've been bearing witness of your faith.
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  I mean, it's remarkable. And so I want
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  to talk about the subject of faith and
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  what that looks like because I mean I
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  know that you know there's people I
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  don't know if you got any backlash for
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  your for your birth testimony or you did
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  >> it. Mhm.
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  >> Cuz people will say like well what are
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  you saying? Did I just not have enough
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  faith then? And so I you know
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  >> and that always hurts just to even hear.
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  I'm like oh you're missing it.
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  >> Yeah. So tell me, we will get into the
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  testimony a little bit, but just let's
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  start with definitions because yeah,
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  >> you have to be able to know the truth to
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  be set free. Yeah. So how do you
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  biblically define faith when we speak of
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  it in this context especially?
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  >> Yeah. Yep. Well, the word says that
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  faith is evidence of things hoped for
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  yet not seen. Right. And then you said
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  it earlier like we cannot please God
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  without faith. And I'm not talking about
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  just salvation faith, okay? Like we got
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  to get past that, right? like, "Oh, he
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  saved me from hell." Well, praise God.
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  What are you going to do about it? You
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  know, like even the demons, they
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  believe. So, are you on the same playing
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  field of that's your belief? Like faith
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  is belief of the evidence that you hope
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  for, yet you can't see, right? He said,
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  "Fix your eyes on what is not seen
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  because what is not seen is eternal.
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  What you seen is just temporary." And
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  so, we have to fix our lens of like,
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  okay, what we see in the natural is so
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  real, but the spirit realm is so much
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  even more greater. and alive and just
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  fixing my eyes on that and taking him
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  seriously at his word the first time.
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  >> Not doubting, not asking other people
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  what they think. Like if we if he said
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  it, I'm going to believe it. And so when
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  it comes to faith, my whole Bible here,
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  like by faith, Abraham, by faith Sarah,
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  by faith even Rahab, by faith, Hebrews
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  11 just lays it out there plain. And so,
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  man, like what what would it look like
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  for you to actually not believe God just
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  for them? Because I think sometimes we
• 16:19
  have faith for other people, right?
• 16:21
  People might believe for you like, oh
• 16:23
  yeah, you're going to have a pain-free
• 16:24
  birth, but then you're like, I don't
• 16:26
  know if I can have this for myself.
• 16:28
  >> Like, it is so possible. It is the
• 16:30
  evidence of things hoped for. Like, why
• 16:32
  not believe?
• 16:34
  >> Yeah.
• 16:34
  >> Why not take him at his word? But the
• 16:36
  only way you can really learn this and
• 16:38
  change your perspective is if you're in
• 16:40
  here
• 16:41
  >> because their testimonies are what going
• 16:44
  to strengthen yours because these are
• 16:45
  our brothers and sisters. This is our
• 16:47
  history. This is our love letter. This
• 16:49
  is our map. This is everything we need.
• 16:51
  Like you don't need anything else. Like
• 16:53
  for real, we think we got to go to all
• 16:54
  these other sources when this is the
• 16:57
  source and the resource of life. And so
• 17:00
  this has been the thing that has changed
• 17:02
  my faith. and then living testimonies
• 17:05
  like yours. I'm like, if it's possible
• 17:08
  for her, it's possible for me because
• 17:11
  we're both daughters of the king. And
• 17:13
  so, the reason why I could believe for a
• 17:16
  pain-free birth is because also the
• 17:18
  scripture, he takes you from glory to
• 17:20
  glory.
• 17:21
  >> And the reason why I could believe that
• 17:23
  for a painfree birth is my wedding was
• 17:26
  crazy.
• 17:28
  >> Oh my gosh. I remember seeing you post
• 17:31
  about that. Yeah.
• 17:32
  >> Do you want to share that testimony?
• 17:33
  >> Yes, I do. So,
• 17:36
  everything in our life, it's bigger than
• 17:38
  what we think it is, right? So, when it
• 17:40
  came to my birth, I wasn't just praying
• 17:42
  for me. I was praying that it would
• 17:44
  change my midwife's life. And the reason
• 17:46
  why I could do that is because what I
• 17:48
  saw at my wedding. So, the week before
• 17:50
  my wedding, I was like, "Listen, this is
• 17:52
  kind of crazy. All these people are
• 17:53
  going to be in the same room at the same
• 17:54
  time, and they're never all going to be
• 17:56
  in this room ever again. So, what we
• 17:58
  going to do about that?" I literally
• 18:00
  fasted the week before my wedding. It's
• 18:02
  not about me. It's not about my husband.
• 18:04
  At the end of the day, it's going to be
• 18:05
  me and him and the pastor. Amen. But for
• 18:07
  everyone in that room, I want them to be
• 18:09
  saved, set free, delivered. Like, I want
• 18:13
  them to experience the Lord like they
• 18:15
  never have before. And if that's me
• 18:18
  pushing away a plate for a week, so be
• 18:20
  it.
• 18:21
  >> So that's what I did. I prayed that this
• 18:23
  would be the craziest, most beautiful
• 18:26
  wedding ever. And the Lord ministered to
• 18:29
  me. He was so funny. After the wedding,
• 18:30
  he said, "Georgia, you didn't even pray
• 18:33
  for the rain." I said, 'What do you
• 18:34
  mean? He said, 'You prayed past the
• 18:37
  rain.
• 18:38
  >> We We had an inside chapel wedding, but
• 18:41
  the reception was outside on a Tuesday
• 18:43
  at 2:00, and the Lord said, "You didn't
• 18:45
  even pray that it wouldn't rain. You
• 18:47
  just believed that it wouldn't."
• 18:51
  So, where are we going to pray past the
• 18:54
  rain in our life? like he wants you to
• 18:57
  live painf free. He wants you to live
• 18:59
  set free. Where are you going to pray
• 19:02
  past these areas already believing and
• 19:04
  turning around and saying God's going to
• 19:05
  do it? Just like, you know, Jesus's mom
• 19:08
  said, "Do whatever he says for you to do
• 19:10
  at that first miracle, the wedding at
• 19:12
  Kaa." And so I I prayed that they would
• 19:16
  all be set free. And we had a worship
• 19:18
  moment. We passed out communion to
• 19:20
  everybody. and we started singing um
• 19:24
  girl I don't even remember what we're
• 19:25
  sing singing it's on my YouTube channel
• 19:27
  somewhere and we just started singing I
• 19:30
  think alpha and omega and uh you are
• 19:33
  alpha and omega and it just like erupted
• 19:36
  and my eyes were closed the whole time
• 19:38
  and all I saw was light and you had a
• 19:41
  lot of singers in that room and this
• 19:43
  little chapel just reverberating off the
• 19:44
  walls. It was heaven on earth. Like even
• 19:48
  one of the the people hang handing out
• 19:50
  communion told me one person had to run
• 19:51
  out cuz she felt like she was going to
• 19:53
  throw up. Like for real getting
• 19:54
  deliverance. My only regret was not
• 19:56
  having a baptismal. Like for real. Like
• 19:58
  we just it all broke out. And I'm
• 20:01
  standing there at the altar and I opened
• 20:03
  my eyes at the very end and I was like
• 20:05
  >> wait that's not what I saw. Like I was
• 20:07
  not there. It was beautiful. It was
• 20:11
  unlike anything I could really even
• 20:14
  describe to you. But I know that heaven
• 20:17
  touched earth in that moment.
• 20:19
  >> And so for my wedding to mark me and
• 20:22
  everybody else that were there, they
• 20:23
  were like, "We've never been to a
• 20:25
  wedding like this." I was like, "Me
• 20:26
  either." I knew from that day, my life
• 20:28
  would never be the same. And as I came
• 20:30
  into covenant with my husband,
• 20:33
  >> I said, "It's only it's only glory to
• 20:35
  glory from here. Our next season, that
• 20:37
  ceiling, that's going to be our floor."
• 20:39
  And so that's when I had to look back
• 20:41
  and remember and say when he did it
• 20:44
  there, he's going to do it here. He's
• 20:46
  the same God.
• 20:47
  >> Yeah.
• 20:47
  >> So I could stand on believing for a
• 20:49
  painfree birth.
• 20:51
  >> So good.
• 20:52
  >> We have the same midwife, by the way.
• 20:54
  >> We do.
• 20:55
  >> Yeah.
• 20:55
  >> I went with her.
• 20:57
  >> I love her.
• 20:58
  >> She's incredible.
• 20:59
  >> She's amazing.
• 21:00
  >> And I know for sure your birth marked
• 21:02
  her because at the birth class we went
• 21:04
  to a couple weeks ago, she brought it
• 21:06
  up.
• 21:06
  >> For real? Uh-huh.
• 21:07
  >> No way.
• 21:08
  >> Yep.
• 21:09
  That's going to make me cry.
• 21:11
  >> In your transition, you were like, "Am I
• 21:13
  like in or close to it?" You're like,
• 21:15
  "Am I even in labor right now?" Cuz you
• 21:16
  weren't feeling any pain and she like
• 21:18
  checked you and you were like right
• 21:20
  there. And she's like, "I nearly fell
• 21:21
  off the bed." I couldn't believe it.
• 21:23
  >> No, for real. I remember she checked me
• 21:25
  and cuz I was just like, I don't want to
• 21:27
  be disappointed if I'm like feeling what
• 21:29
  I'm feeling and I'm like at 2 cm or
• 21:31
  something and she was like, "You're
• 21:32
  about to have this baby." Like the birth
• 21:34
  pool wasn't even filling up fast enough.
• 21:36
  She's like, "Does your bathtub have good
• 21:38
  water pressure?" I'm like, "Yeah, so I
• 21:40
  just hopped in that bathtub." But I
• 21:42
  remember praying for her and just asking
• 21:44
  the Lord like cuz she has a lot of
• 21:46
  children, right? So she's had many
• 21:48
  births of her own personally and then
• 21:50
  many, you know, clients, right? So I'm
• 21:52
  like, "Lord, I don't know how you'll use
• 21:53
  me." And and honestly, I thought it was
• 21:55
  just going to be a quick speedy birth.
• 21:56
  And she's like, "Wow, I've never seen
• 21:57
  this before." But I just was like,
• 22:00
  "Lord, please change her life." And so I
• 22:03
  I gave birth on a Sunday and very early
• 22:05
  in the morning, 7:42, and I was just
• 22:08
  great. I just stayed in the bed and she
• 22:10
  was like, "I'm going to go to church
• 22:11
  now." I was like, "All right, bye-bye."
• 22:13
  And so she comes back Monday morning for
• 22:16
  the 24-hour checkup. And she's sitting
• 22:19
  there on the edge of the bed. And need
• 22:20
  need I say, she gave birth 6 days after
• 22:22
  I did.
• 22:23
  >> So she literally is a boss queen about
• 22:27
  to deliver a baby of her own right after
• 22:29
  delivering mine. So her little cute
• 22:31
  self, she was like, Georgia, I had to go
• 22:33
  to church and repent.
• 22:35
  >> Wow.
• 22:36
  >> I'm like, why? I'm like, what did I do?
• 22:38
  And she said, you told me for 9 months
• 22:42
  that you were believing God for a
• 22:43
  redheaded baby. And I never said
• 22:46
  anything, but I just would laugh and not
• 22:47
  believe. Like, girl, you have a black
• 22:50
  husband. Like, how is that going to
• 22:51
  happen? Like, that's crazy. And here
• 22:54
  comes little Jack with red hair. She
• 22:56
  said, Georgia, like, that changed my
• 22:58
  life. I'm going to believe God. And I
• 23:01
  was like, "Oh my gosh." Like, she
• 23:03
  already has such crazy beautiful faith,
• 23:05
  but to see how like the simplicity of
• 23:08
  red hair and the belief of something so
• 23:11
  pure and honestly, many would say that's
• 23:14
  insignificant. It was significant to me.
• 23:18
  And that changed her life. I didn't
• 23:19
  think red hair would change her life,
• 23:22
  but it sharpened her faith.
• 23:23
  >> Yeah. And that's so key because faith
• 23:27
  like God is so incredible in the way
• 23:31
  that he works where he will give us
• 23:34
  these words. He will give us these
• 23:36
  testimonies. He will give us a measure
• 23:39
  of faith not just for our good and his
• 23:42
  glory, but because he is interested in
• 23:45
  increasing another's measure of faith.
• 23:48
  Yeah.
• 23:48
  >> And when I first heard from him that
• 23:52
  you're going to have a pain-free birth,
• 23:53
  I had never heard that before in my
• 23:55
  life. I was like, "What is that? What
• 23:56
  does that mean?" Um, I'm not expecting
• 24:00
  I'm not expecting anything. I just knew
• 24:02
  I was pregnant and, you know, I'm going
• 24:03
  to have a baby. Cool. He said, "You were
• 24:05
  going to have a pain-free birth because
• 24:07
  I want to change the narrative for other
• 24:10
  women." And he said that my testimony
• 24:13
  was going to was going to provide that
• 24:16
  hope and that faith for them to know
• 24:19
  that it's not only possible but it is
• 24:22
  I'm going to say a right you know a
• 24:24
  bornag again birth right because when
• 24:27
  you really read the word
• 24:30
  >> it's it's clear that the curse the toil
• 24:35
  and the pain of childbirth
• 24:38
  falls under the curse of sin. in and
• 24:41
  then it could not be more clear that
• 24:44
  Jesus became that curse and that's it.
• 24:47
  Like it's just and faith as you said
• 24:51
  there's no other way to increase your
• 24:54
  faith or believe for the things unseen
• 24:57
  without being in this word because the
• 25:00
  word actually tells us how we receive it
• 25:02
  which is by hearing the word of God.
• 25:05
  >> Yeah. It doesn't come from like when
• 25:07
  we're sitting here encouraging faith,
• 25:09
  it's not like this is something that you
• 25:11
  can go and cultivate in your own
• 25:14
  strength.
• 25:15
  >> Yeah. Here's three steps. It's literally
• 25:17
  him. It's literally his word and his
• 25:20
  promises.
• 25:22
  It's just it's incredible.
• 25:24
  >> Yeah.
• 25:24
  >> And I just I love seeing
• 25:26
  >> the the ripple effect of how these these
• 25:30
  testimonies because the testimony of
• 25:32
  Jesus is the spirit of prophecy. And I
• 25:34
  love hearing how one testimony, like my
• 25:36
  testimony, impacted you, impacted our
• 25:39
  midwife, impacted God knows who else now
• 25:42
  that she's working with otherwise.
• 25:45
  It's like that is the God that we serve.
• 25:48
  That's the gospel.
• 25:50
  >> That's the gospel.
• 25:51
  >> Yeah. Like he wants us to truly overcome
• 25:54
  the enemy by the blood. We're soaked in
• 25:56
  it and the word of our testimony saying,
• 25:58
  "If he did it for me, he can do it for
• 26:00
  you." like truly like you truly got me
• 26:04
  to this point with with with believing
• 26:07
  even more that I could have this
• 26:08
  painfree birth because I did my
• 26:10
  searching through Genesis. I'm like wait
• 26:13
  the the word pain here doesn't mean pain
• 26:15
  of what we think. Okay, it means sorrow.
• 26:17
  Okay. And then I don't see anywhere here
• 26:20
  where I was fully cursed. The ground was
• 26:23
  cursed but I'm not cursed. Okay.
• 26:25
  >> And so truly like we're under the the
• 26:28
  cup of the new covenant. Like
• 26:29
  >> Yeah. Hello.
• 26:31
  >> Yeah.
• 26:31
  >> Like it is your portion.
• 26:34
  >> And I just I want people to see that
• 26:37
  there's more for you.
• 26:39
  >> Yeah.
• 26:39
  >> Like do you know how loved you are that
• 26:41
  he doesn't want you just saved. He wants
• 26:44
  you free. He wants you in abundance.
• 26:48
  Abundance doesn't mean extra zeros fully
• 26:50
  in your bank account. That may be one
• 26:52
  manifestation of it. But he wants to see
• 26:55
  you walking in the fullness of loving
• 26:56
  your family and having a painfree birth,
• 26:59
  having a beautiful wedding and praying
• 27:02
  past the rain. Like, pray past a
• 27:04
  painfree birth and and pray that it
• 27:06
  would truly impact those around you,
• 27:08
  right? Like faith.
• 27:11
  >> Yeah.
• 27:12
  >> It has to be everything, right? It's who
• 27:14
  we are.
• 27:14
  >> You know what's funny, too, is I don't
• 27:16
  mind sharing all this now because this
• 27:18
  ain't going to be out till after the
• 27:19
  baby's born. Um, I have been So, I don't
• 27:23
  know what your warfare was like during
• 27:25
  your pregnancy. It's my second time. It
• 27:28
  is so intense and the enemy I can like
• 27:32
  see what he's doing. And he is so mad
• 27:34
  because he there are other areas that,
• 27:37
  you know, the Lord's allowed him to
• 27:39
  attack me because God is showing me you
• 27:41
  need to fortify in this area, you need
• 27:43
  to fortify in that area, XYZ, and that
• 27:46
  darkness can only be, you know, overcome
• 27:48
  with my light. So, I'm not mad about the
• 27:51
  warfare because God is even using that.
• 27:53
  But I see that the enemy is so mad
• 27:56
  because he can touch all these other
• 27:58
  spots, but he still cannot get to that.
• 28:01
  Like, he can't get to the birth. I'm
• 28:03
  like, you're not you're not taking that
• 28:06
  from me. You literally can't. Like, my
• 28:08
  faith in that is so strong because of
• 28:12
  what God has already done the first time
• 28:15
  around. I know he's going to do it
• 28:17
  again. And he told me, he said, "This is
• 28:18
  your double portion."
• 28:20
  >> Amen.
• 28:21
  >> For Judah
• 28:22
  >> receive. Yes.
• 28:23
  >> Of course. But I know. I'm like, "Okay,
• 28:25
  wow.
• 28:26
  >> All right. I do receive that, Lord." And
• 28:28
  so the enemy has been coming at me like
• 28:30
  every other area
• 28:33
  because he's like, "Maybe if I do this
• 28:34
  or that or that, then I can finally get
• 28:36
  to that thing." And he just has not been
• 28:38
  able to.
• 28:39
  >> You can't touch it.
• 28:40
  >> And it's incredible.
• 28:41
  >> No, that's literally amazing. It was It
• 28:44
  was The pregnancy itself was so hard.
• 28:46
  Like I wanted to quit ministry if I'm
• 28:48
  being honest with you like twice.
• 28:50
  >> You can ask my husband. Y
• 28:51
  >> Yeah. It was so much like I can't tell
• 28:53
  you how much I cried. Like physically I
• 28:56
  felt fine. Like I I'd only been married
• 28:59
  3 months and my husband's son moved in
• 29:02
  with us. So I literally overnight became
• 29:04
  Caroline lunch making mama
• 29:07
  >> going on field trips and now I'm
• 29:08
  pregnant. Like I had even been married
• 29:10
  for like six days and he moved in. So it
• 29:13
  was just so much all at once. and then
• 29:15
  full-time ministry and being under my
• 29:16
  husband's leadership and and leading a
• 29:18
  congregation and then the church was in
• 29:20
  in transition from a tent to a building.
• 29:22
  There was so much going on. Like I cried
• 29:24
  so much. Like it was insane. I just
• 29:28
  wanted to to give up. And then I give
• 29:30
  birth to this baby. And when I tell you
• 29:33
  this little child is the most joyful kid
• 29:36
  I've ever met and I thought I was pretty
• 29:39
  fun and joyful. He has like 10 times
• 29:42
  more joy than I do. And the Lord just
• 29:44
  one day spoke the scripture to me. He
• 29:45
  said, "What you what you sew in tears,
• 29:47
  you will reap in joy." And I was like,
• 29:49
  "Oh my gosh,
• 29:51
  >> you didn't waste any of those tears."
• 29:54
  Like they were being deposited.
• 29:56
  >> And and this joy came forward.
• 29:58
  >> You were like confirming. Okay. I can't
• 30:01
  wait to go back in this video and clip
• 30:04
  it after I give birth to Judah and say,
• 30:08
  "Oh, look. This is like the validation."
• 30:11
  Because when I tell you I was praying
• 30:12
  last week and the Lord told me all the
• 30:17
  joy, specifically the word joy that the
• 30:19
  enemy has stolen from me, he's going to
• 30:22
  give me back tenfold in birth.
• 30:26
  >> Like, and so I I was like, "Wow."
• 30:28
  Because with SA, my birth was very
• 30:32
  >> it was like holy and it was still. And I
• 30:35
  mean, that's what SA means, you know?
• 30:37
  >> It was literally her. It was just like
• 30:40
  it was just I I can't explain. It was
• 30:42
  just so holy and reverent and like
• 30:45
  primal, you know.
• 30:47
  >> Mhm.
• 30:48
  >> And I've had like just visions of myself
• 30:51
  with Judah like laughing.
• 30:53
  >> Yeah.
• 30:54
  >> Like I didn't experience that like
• 30:56
  exhilaration with the birth before. It
• 30:59
  was just like peace.
• 31:00
  >> But that's kind of what I feel like he's
• 31:03
  been showing me and you just confirmed
• 31:07
  it. So that's pretty cool.
• 31:09
  >> That's your portion. That's your double
• 31:10
  portion. That is so beautiful.
• 31:14
  >> I don't even know what to say. Glory to
• 31:15
  God.
• 31:16
  >> But this is like what's happening right
• 31:18
  now in in real time is faith is being
• 31:22
  deposited back and forth.
• 31:23
  >> Y
• 31:24
  >> and it's just growing like that seed is
• 31:26
  growing. Yeah.
• 31:27
  >> Because there's not fear there,
• 31:30
  >> you know, and there's not fear on my end
• 31:31
  and there's not doubt on your end. And
• 31:33
  that's what God uses to work with.
• 31:35
  >> Yes. So, why do you why do you think
• 31:37
  like because you know there are going to
• 31:39
  be comments to this video like this is
• 31:41
  heresy, this is unbiblical, this is
• 31:42
  this, this is that.
• 31:44
  >> Why do you think people struggle so
• 31:47
  much? I was even telling you I lost a
• 31:48
  friend for my faith like
• 31:50
  >> a believer.
• 31:52
  >> I lost a believing friend because of the
• 31:54
  faith that I had
• 31:56
  to have this birth. And you know, she's
• 31:58
  like that's prosperity gospel that's
• 32:00
  this. You're false. Like ouch. Right.
• 32:02
  Yeah. But why do you think that despite
• 32:06
  all this this word says about faith
• 32:11
  about our ancestors?
• 32:13
  >> Yeah.
• 32:13
  >> You know in the Old Testament and about
• 32:15
  just what faith is in the epistles and
• 32:18
  even the way Jesus magnifies your faith
• 32:21
  made you well. Why is this like the one
• 32:25
  thing that
• 32:27
  if we're saved by grace through faith
• 32:29
  that people struggle with so much?
• 32:33
  Sounds too good to be true,
• 32:36
  right?
• 32:37
  I think
• 32:39
  there's blinders
• 32:41
  on. I think this microwavable
• 32:45
  Amazon delivery
• 32:47
  instant gratification.
• 32:49
  They'd rather have all of this stuff and
• 32:52
  the fluff and the the the instant pills
• 32:56
  and the all these all these things to
• 32:58
  help supplement and say, "Well, this is
• 33:00
  what made me whole. This is what helped
• 33:02
  me. This is what all the No, all you
• 33:04
  need is him." And that sounds too good
• 33:07
  to be true. But so did the man on the
• 33:11
  cross.
• 33:12
  when the sky turned dark at 3:00 and he
• 33:15
  said it is finished. That sounds too
• 33:17
  good to be true. Taking the lashes in
• 33:19
  his back. How could that be true? Okay.
• 33:22
  Well, I can believe that. I can believe
• 33:24
  a virgin birth. But then could it still
• 33:26
  be for me?
• 33:29
  Bills everywhere. It's this Americanized
• 33:32
  I went to church on Sunday. I marked it
• 33:34
  off my list. I'm doing my due diligence.
• 33:36
  I've got my ticket into heaven for the
• 33:38
  week. Monday through Saturday, whatever.
• 33:40
  And you don't even build up your faith
• 33:43
  then. So yeah, how can you believe?
• 33:48
  So then I look crazy. You look crazy.
• 33:52
  But our faith is just a daily faith.
• 33:55
  >> Yeah.
• 33:55
  >> Our our faith is truly give us this day
• 33:58
  our daily bread. He is being our daily
• 34:01
  bread. And I believe that's why people
• 34:03
  are not because you're you're just
• 34:05
  microwaving your food. You're getting
• 34:06
  your fast food. you're getting your fix
• 34:09
  instead of waiting on the Lord
• 34:11
  depositing these seeds of faith, letting
• 34:13
  them have time to soak and have time in
• 34:15
  the earth so they can sprout up and you
• 34:17
  can see the harvest of your faith.
• 34:19
  You're not planting any seeds, so you're
• 34:22
  not going to see any harvest of that. So
• 34:24
  when you see my harvest, but you don't
• 34:26
  see my seeds and you don't see my tears
• 34:28
  and you don't see my belief, you don't
• 34:30
  see my time here. You don't see my
• 34:31
  doubts and my questions that I'm asking.
• 34:33
  You only see the fruit publicly. Well,
• 34:35
  my father who sees you in secret is
• 34:37
  going to reward you openly. You only see
• 34:38
  the reward. You're wondering, "Well,
• 34:40
  that's prosperity. That sounds too good
• 34:42
  to be true." No, you don't see me on my
• 34:44
  face.
• 34:45
  >> Wow.
• 34:46
  >> But if you got on your face, you
• 34:48
  experienced it for yourself. That's why
• 34:50
  we share our testimony to say, "Go to
• 34:53
  the secret place. Go get what we've got
• 34:56
  from the well that never runs dry." This
• 34:59
  can be your story, too.
• 35:03
  there's so much more.
• 35:06
  I just I just want to shake people
• 35:07
  sometimes.
• 35:09
  >> And to be clear, you know, I say this
• 35:11
  all the time that having faith and, you
• 35:15
  know, going from glory to glory and
• 35:17
  truly walking out the freedom that he
• 35:19
  paid for us to have does not mean that
• 35:22
  life is easy.
• 35:24
  >> Oh, no. Between glory to glory is gory
• 35:27
  and gory. Like, it really is. It's this,
• 35:30
  oh, I'm in the trenches. This is
• 35:32
  horrible. Is God going to see me
• 35:34
  through? And we just came through that
• 35:36
  season, me and my husband. Like the Lord
• 35:38
  literally stripped everything from us.
• 35:41
  Like for real.
• 35:43
  >> Like it was crazy. We were on the the
• 35:46
  cusp of our town of Lebanon. So our
• 35:48
  utilities were Lebanon, Tennessee, but
• 35:50
  our address was Mount Juliet and our
• 35:52
  church was in Lebanon. And so as we made
• 35:55
  this transition, we felt the Lord say,
• 35:57
  "You need to be in Lebanon." and we're
• 35:58
  like, "Okay, like we need to be in the
• 36:00
  territory in the atmosphere of where
• 36:02
  we're ministering to. Like we want to
• 36:03
  see this town changed." And so he just
• 36:06
  kept speaking and we just kept obeying
• 36:09
  when it didn't make sense. We did not
• 36:11
  tell anybody. We just started moving
• 36:13
  quietly in faith and I learned so much.
• 36:16
  When the Lord told them to march around
• 36:18
  Jericho, this was a detail I didn't
• 36:19
  know, right? We we we read they marched
• 36:22
  around Jericho six days and then on the
• 36:25
  seventh they blew the trumpet and then
• 36:26
  the walls fell down. For those six days
• 36:29
  they were silent. They circled silently.
• 36:33
  >> Wow.
• 36:33
  >> And so how many of us have a promise
• 36:36
  from God and every time we're circling
• 36:38
  we're telling we're speaking
• 36:41
  >> all these things. Same with my painfree
• 36:43
  birth. I really didn't tell many people
• 36:45
  what I was believing for because I
• 36:47
  didn't want your doubt in in my ear. I
• 36:49
  didn't want your opinion. I didn't ask.
• 36:51
  So when it came to this, the Lord's
• 36:53
  telling us to move. We got to move
• 36:55
  quietly,
• 36:57
  >> it was hard because you get in this
• 36:58
  season of of stillness with the Lord.
• 37:01
  Really isolation from people just to be
• 37:03
  caught up with the Lord to go up even
• 37:05
  higher. Abraham and Isaac, right? The
• 37:07
  servants went with them a certain amount
• 37:10
  onto the journey with them, but they had
• 37:11
  to leave them at the bottom of the
• 37:13
  mountain because there are some people
• 37:14
  that when you're going up to the
• 37:16
  mountain to pray, to worship, to
• 37:17
  sacrifice, that they can't come with
• 37:20
  you. You have to go be alone with God.
• 37:22
  But when you come back down, I'm sure
• 37:25
  Isaac was like, "Yo, Dad put that spear
• 37:27
  above my head and I was almost out." But
• 37:31
  God put a ram in the bush. And that's
• 37:33
  when you can testify because those
• 37:35
  servants, I'm sure they they were there
• 37:37
  to serve Abraham and they would have
• 37:39
  been like, "What are you doing?" Like,
• 37:40
  "Put that away." Yeah.
• 37:41
  >> You know, when the Lord commanded him to
• 37:43
  do something and he had to follow all
• 37:45
  the way through that thing. Yeah.
• 37:46
  >> So, when the Lord said, "Pack up your
• 37:48
  house by March 1st," we did it.
• 37:52
  >> When the Lord said, "From March 1st to
• 37:54
  when you move, circle around your house
• 37:56
  every night seven times." We did it.
• 37:59
  when it was cold, when our baby wouldn't
• 38:01
  sleep and we'd have to carry him. The
• 38:02
  ground even remembered and would bow
• 38:04
  low. Like even when it was cut, like we
• 38:07
  started making a path. Like praying when
• 38:09
  it didn't make sense. Like all of these
• 38:11
  things, walking in faith, having to push
• 38:14
  past doubt and what we even see in the
• 38:17
  natural. Like I cried so much to my
• 38:20
  husband. I'm like, "What are we doing?
• 38:22
  This is stupid." I'm like, "This is
• 38:24
  dumb. What are we doing?" But I had to
• 38:27
  remember everything he brought me
• 38:28
  through to bring me to this point to say
• 38:31
  he ain't going to fail me.
• 38:32
  >> Yeah.
• 38:33
  >> And it's in these moments you have to
• 38:35
  choose to believe for yourself
• 38:38
  because there's that crossroad of of
• 38:41
  doubt and faith and fear.
• 38:43
  >> Yeah.
• 38:43
  >> But as you and I both know, fear
• 38:46
  >> is not an emotion. It's a spirit that's
• 38:48
  trying to come and take the good seed of
• 38:50
  the good ground. It's not an emotion. He
• 38:54
  didn't give you a spirit of fear, but of
• 38:55
  power, love, and a sound mind. So when
• 38:57
  that fear tries to come in and whatever
• 38:59
  you're believing for, whatever promise
• 39:01
  or season you're walking through, you
• 39:03
  need to decree and declare the spirit of
• 39:06
  power, wisdom, a sound mind over you
• 39:09
  because that is your portion.
• 39:11
  >> Yeah. Exactly. And you know, I had this
• 39:13
  revelation about fear because you hear a
• 39:15
  lot of people say fear is the absence of
• 39:17
  faith. You know,
• 39:19
  >> fear is not the absence of faith. Fear
• 39:21
  is inverted faith
• 39:23
  >> because you're still believing
• 39:25
  something. You are just believing the
• 39:27
  lie,
• 39:28
  >> right?
• 39:29
  >> Like you're believing the doubt.
• 39:31
  Exactly.
• 39:32
  >> Your faith is in the
• 39:36
  >> the false promise that it's not going to
• 39:38
  work out,
• 39:39
  >> right?
• 39:39
  >> And so then that's what you come into
• 39:41
  agreement with and that's how you do
• 39:42
  give the spirit of fear an actual
• 39:44
  foothold and a right
• 39:46
  >> to just operate as it sees fit in your
• 39:49
  life. And then that will sew more seeds
• 39:52
  of inverted fear or I'm sorry inverted
• 39:55
  faith
• 39:56
  >> which then you know harvests as fear and
• 40:00
  fear and then out of the abundance of
• 40:02
  the heart the mouth speaks
• 40:03
  >> then you start cursing yourself
• 40:05
  >> and then we start cursing ourselves and
• 40:07
  then we start saying to other people
• 40:08
  like that's not true that's not biblical
• 40:11
  that's not this that's not that because
• 40:13
  that's what's in our heart
• 40:16
  >> cuz that's what we've allowed to be sown
• 40:18
  there we haven't take uh you know when
• 40:20
  the enemy comes we don't like snatch it
• 40:22
  up we let it fester we let it implant we
• 40:26
  let it we let it live there and then
• 40:28
  that produces a really poor harvest and
• 40:32
  then we wonder why like God feels so far
• 40:35
  away he hasn't gone anywhere we have
• 40:38
  just yeah we have just allowed our faith
• 40:41
  >> to be rooted in the wrong vine
• 40:44
  >> you know
• 40:46
  >> that's good and it makes me think of
• 40:49
  those friendships you do lose because of
• 40:52
  where you stand
• 40:54
  >> and something in them just needs
• 40:56
  healing.
• 40:57
  >> Yeah, exactly.
• 40:57
  >> Something in them just needs revelation.
• 41:00
  Something in them just needs to have
• 41:02
  that spark of life touched to that area
• 41:05
  where they felt like God left them or
• 41:08
  that they didn't see it through when
• 41:10
  really truly maybe he answered you in a
• 41:12
  different way because his ways and his
• 41:14
  thoughts are so much higher than ours.
• 41:16
  And that's why we can't lean on our own
• 41:18
  understanding. We have to acknowledge
• 41:19
  him in all of our ways, knowing he's
• 41:20
  making your path straight right now. And
• 41:22
  that narrow path is very narrow. It's
• 41:25
  not going to look sound, taste, all your
• 41:28
  senses. It's not going to be anything of
• 41:29
  what you thought. It's going to be
• 41:31
  greater. And it may look different, but
• 41:33
  it's going to be greater.
• 41:35
  >> Cuz what I even prayed for my own birth,
• 41:37
  for my wedding, everything was different
• 41:39
  and greater because that's who he is. I
• 41:41
  can't try to begin to comprehend with my
• 41:43
  natural mind what God's going to do.
• 41:44
  Because if I could wrap it around my
• 41:46
  brain, that wouldn't be of God.
• 41:48
  >> Wow. So good. Okay, tell me about your
• 41:51
  birth. I don't want to like lose that. I
• 41:52
  don't want to like go because I could
• 41:53
  just sit here and talk for hours, but
• 41:54
  tell me about like the process leading
• 41:56
  up to it. What happened? I just I want
• 41:58
  to hear all the things.
• 41:59
  >> Yeah, I love birth stories. They're so
• 42:00
  fun. So, we had to evict this baby out.
• 42:03
  He was not budging. Okay. And so, I
• 42:06
  waited as long as I could cuz I was
• 42:07
  like, "Well, maybe he'll come." His due
• 42:09
  date came and passed. And I'm going to
• 42:10
  be honest, that was the most
• 42:12
  disappointing day ever. like that.
• 42:14
  >> Did doubt try
• 42:16
  >> uh with the painfree
• 42:17
  >> with like just any of it like when when
• 42:20
  you were quote unquote late
• 42:23
  um is that when you're like, "Oh, maybe
• 42:25
  I'm not going to have this birth that I
• 42:27
  think I'm going to
• 42:27
  >> I don't think the painfree part. It was
• 42:29
  just more of like when is this child
• 42:31
  going to come?" It's like like the the
• 42:34
  stirrings and the groanings that you
• 42:35
  feel of just like I'm done being
• 42:37
  pregnant. Like I'm ready for him to be
• 42:40
  here. like when is this weight going to
• 42:42
  be lifted? Like when am I going to get
• 42:45
  to that promise? I think we can all feel
• 42:46
  that even if you're not physically
• 42:48
  pregnant of like when is this going to
• 42:49
  be over? Like so I think for me his due
• 42:52
  date was June 3rd.
• 42:53
  >> By the way, let me pause you right
• 42:54
  there.
• 42:55
  >> Yes.
• 42:55
  >> Because you know how a lot of people say
• 42:57
  you justify a pain-free birth, but even
• 43:00
  Jesus uses labor pains as um like an
• 43:05
  analogy for I'm like, do you know the
• 43:07
  context he's talking about? He's not
• 43:09
  talking about the pain. He's talking
• 43:11
  about the anticipation of the promise.
• 43:14
  Yes.
• 43:14
  >> Of the actual birth, which is his
• 43:16
  return. Like, he's not talking about
• 43:18
  like,
• 43:19
  >> oh, yeah. It's just,
• 43:21
  >> man, it's just knowing the word in
• 43:22
  context. If faith comes by hearing the
• 43:24
  word of God, then we better know the
• 43:25
  word in context anyway.
• 43:27
  >> In context. No, for real.
• 43:29
  >> Yeah.
• 43:29
  >> Please talk about that. Like that.
• 43:31
  That's the whole thing. And it it was
• 43:32
  this anticipation, the stirring of like
• 43:34
  I'm ready. like
• 43:37
  >> I prepared for this birth. Just let's
• 43:39
  go. You know what I mean? It's kind of
• 43:40
  like the bride like we're trying to get
• 43:42
  ready. It's like
• 43:43
  >> come for us. You know what I'm saying?
• 43:45
  It's not this screaming and trembling.
• 43:46
  It's this this anticipation. And that's
• 43:49
  where I was at. June 3rd was so
• 43:51
  disappointing cuz I thought, "Okay, this
• 43:54
  is the day."
• 43:55
  >> And it wasn't like
• 43:57
  >> my husband had to calm me down. He was
• 43:58
  like, "Let's go to the neighborhood
• 43:59
  pool. Let's go for a swim." I'm like,
• 44:01
  "It's not happening." He's like, "Okay,
• 44:02
  let's go to the movies. Like, let's try
• 44:04
  to keep your mind off this." And I think
• 44:06
  truly this is why we can't keep
• 44:08
  timelines, right? Like man does not know
• 44:10
  when your child's gonna come. Yeah. And
• 44:12
  so putting more faith in a timeline, in
• 44:15
  a date in man, we do this with the
• 44:17
  return of Christ as well.
• 44:18
  >> Oh yeah.
• 44:19
  >> Putting our hope and all that, you're
• 44:21
  just going to end up disappointed. And
• 44:23
  so here we are. I I get through another
• 44:25
  week of a midwife appointment and then
• 44:27
  she's like, "Look, Georgia, like we're
• 44:29
  going to have to really think about
• 44:30
  this. Like he's he's he's not coming.
• 44:33
  Like we're going to have to figure this
• 44:34
  out naturally." And so about a week
• 44:36
  later, I didn't have peace about it
• 44:37
  quite yet. And this is why listening to
• 44:39
  the voice of the Holy Spirit is just so
• 44:40
  important. Like you just got to have a
• 44:42
  relationship with the Lord. Like in
• 44:44
  these last days, like he's the only
• 44:46
  voice we're going to be able to trust.
• 44:48
  And so you got to be begin to cultivate
• 44:50
  that. And so I finally felt a release
• 44:52
  from the Lord of being able to do castor
• 44:55
  oil safely. And so my midwife had us go
• 44:58
  get some. And even then, like I was at
• 45:02
  Sprouts getting this castor oil. And I
• 45:04
  shouldn't have opened my mouth, you
• 45:05
  know. I I should know better by now. And
• 45:07
  so I got this castor oil. I was like,
• 45:09
  "Time to get this baby." And the worker
• 45:11
  was right there. And I'm huge, you know,
• 45:14
  so she obviously knows I'm about to pop.
• 45:15
  And she's like, "Don't use that. This is
• 45:18
  for abortions." And I'm like, "What the
• 45:19
  heck?" And so I'm like I was just so
• 45:23
  confused. I'm like huge waddling
• 45:25
  bloated. And it's like I mean this is
• 45:27
  why you have to just be careful with
• 45:29
  your words. them because even that like
• 45:31
  this sweet little you know probably
• 45:33
  17year-old girl doesn't even I'm like
• 45:35
  listen sweetie like huh and so we get
• 45:37
  this castor oil my midwife said okay eat
• 45:40
  next morning wake up have a big meaty
• 45:42
  breakfast lots of protein and then get
• 45:46
  ready and then just take the castor oil
• 45:48
  and so we surrendered this to the Lord
• 45:51
  Ryan made me steak eggs bacon all the
• 45:53
  things it was so fun and before we took
• 45:56
  the castor oil we took communion
• 45:58
  together and we were like, okay, like we
• 46:00
  give this to you, Lord. Like, hope this
• 46:02
  works. Like, I I didn't know. Never had
• 46:05
  birth before. Like, never taken castor
• 46:07
  oil. So, we took communion and just
• 46:09
  dedicated this birth to the Lord. And
• 46:13
  man, I think there's so many significant
• 46:16
  things um in this, but looking back, I'm
• 46:20
  like, "Wow, I can't believe we did
• 46:21
  that." Like, you don't hear of that. You
• 46:24
  go to the hospital, you get your
• 46:25
  epidural, you don't feel the pain. Like,
• 46:26
  all this stuff. It's like, what if we
• 46:28
  turned it upside down on its head and
• 46:29
  it's not the the most, oh, I was so
• 46:32
  close to the to the Lord because I was
• 46:34
  in so much pain, but what if you were so
• 46:35
  close to the Lord because the veil was
• 46:36
  so thin? Because in that moment, the the
• 46:38
  baby that he was knitting inside your
• 46:40
  womb for 9 months that he knew the color
• 46:42
  of the baby's eyes and the hair before
• 46:44
  you did was literally being fashioned
• 46:46
  and brought into creation for such a
• 46:49
  time as this. Like, what if we changed
• 46:50
  the narrative like you said? So, we took
• 46:53
  communion. I took the first dose of
• 46:55
  castor oil and went and took a nap.
• 46:57
  That's the most holy thing you could do.
• 46:58
  Amen. And so then I woke up. It was time
• 47:01
  for the next dose and it kicked in
• 47:02
  pretty quickly. It really worked. And um
• 47:06
  so it was about 5:45 and I think I was
• 47:08
  like I don't know if I'm in labor and I
• 47:10
  >> in the morning or at night.
• 47:12
  >> In the evening. Yes. So 5:30 in the
• 47:13
  night
• 47:14
  >> and uh contractions kind of started and
• 47:17
  I was like oh I guess I better download
• 47:19
  some timer. Like I just wasn't, you
• 47:21
  know,
• 47:22
  >> and I was spiritually more birth prepped
• 47:24
  than I think I was physically, right? I
• 47:26
  was like like exercising those spiritual
• 47:29
  muscles of like, oh, and I'm like, oh, I
• 47:30
  I meant to put a birth playlist
• 47:31
  together, honey. Can you put some songs
• 47:33
  together? And I said, I want that Bethl
• 47:35
  album where it was all females. I think
• 47:37
  it's called like Starlight or something.
• 47:38
  I was like, I love those songs. Just put
• 47:40
  that on there. He made me a little
• 47:41
  playlist. And I literally labored with
• 47:43
  the Holy Spirit. I love my husband, but
• 47:46
  sis, he fell asleep between every
• 47:48
  contraction.
• 47:50
  I'm serious. It was crazy. I literally
• 47:53
  labored with the Holy Spirit. And so for
• 47:55
  13 hours at my house, I labored at home,
• 47:57
  had a home birth.
• 47:59
  >> I literally labored with the Holy
• 48:00
  Spirit. And he I would squeeze his hand
• 48:02
  every time I had a contraction. And
• 48:04
  between he was just asleep. I don't know
• 48:05
  why. Maybe that spirit of slumber. I
• 48:07
  don't know if he was nervous or what,
• 48:09
  but he was out and he would time him.
• 48:11
  And they were getting closer together.
• 48:12
  And I was doing lunges on the side of
• 48:14
  the bed saying, "Thank you, Jesus." And
• 48:15
  when I tell you the power of your
• 48:17
  tongue, it truly is the rudder. It is
• 48:21
  literally show show me your words and
• 48:24
  I'll show you your story. I'll show you
• 48:25
  your destination. And the more I had
• 48:27
  that attitude of gratitude of knowing
• 48:30
  that we enter his gates with praise and
• 48:32
  thanksgiving, I was entering into the
• 48:33
  presence of God in this moment just
• 48:36
  saying, "Thank you, Jesus." It's all I
• 48:37
  could say between my little whale
• 48:39
  noises, too, right? I'm like, "Oh,
• 48:40
  whatever." Yeah.
• 48:41
  >> But I was just like, "Thank you, Jesus.
• 48:43
  Thank you, Jesus." I closed my eyes for
• 48:45
  13 hours. I don't even I just kept him
• 48:47
  closed and labored in the shower. That
• 48:50
  water was very helpful. And I really I
• 48:52
  was
• 48:52
  >> And literally Ryan is sleeping.
• 48:54
  >> Yes.
• 48:55
  That's so
• 48:56
  >> He was lit. I tell you, I
• 48:58
  >> boss. You did you did that?
• 49:00
  >> Yeah, I did. Because my eyes were so
• 49:03
  fixed on the Lord. Like it was so
• 49:04
  fortified. The enemy could not even get
• 49:06
  into the atmosphere. Like for real. Like
• 49:08
  it was it was crazy. And
• 49:10
  >> um man, it was just it was great. And so
• 49:12
  by 3:00 4 in the morning, it was getting
• 49:14
  a little like more intense and I kept
• 49:16
  your words kept going through my head.
• 49:18
  There's a difference between pain and
• 49:20
  sensation cuz I could feel it, right?
• 49:22
  Like I could feel the pressure of
• 49:24
  different things and but I would just
• 49:26
  like move through it and and um they say
• 49:29
  like if your vocal cords are relaxed
• 49:30
  down there is relaxed cuz it's
• 49:32
  connected. So as as a thing or two,
• 49:36
  >> the sounds
• 49:37
  >> Yeah, I think that was like scaring
• 49:39
  Ryan. I don't know. maybe waking him up
• 49:40
  through his little nap time. But I was
• 49:42
  just like making these whale noises and
• 49:44
  like trying to stay relaxed and just all
• 49:46
  I kept saying was, "Thank you, Jesus."
• 49:47
  And by 4:30, I called our midwife. I can
• 49:50
  say, "R." I love that. I called our
• 49:52
  midwife and I was like, "Hey, like I
• 49:54
  think they're getting pretty close
• 49:55
  together." And she's like, "Well, can
• 49:57
  you talk through him?" And I was like
• 49:58
  silent for like a couple minutes. I
• 50:00
  said, "No." And so she's like, "Okay,
• 50:03
  well, I'll just I'll pack my bag. I'll
• 50:04
  be there in about 20 minutes." minutes.
• 50:06
  And so she got there about 4:30 and
• 50:08
  that's when she I was like, "Should you
• 50:10
  check me?" And I'm like in the shower
• 50:12
  water like a music video. I'm like,
• 50:13
  "Should you check me?" She's like, "I
• 50:15
  can if you'd like." And I guess because
• 50:18
  I was so chill and relaxed, she probably
• 50:20
  didn't think I was that far along. And
• 50:22
  then when she checked me, I was about 8
• 50:23
  and a half, nine. And so
• 50:26
  >> she was like, "Okay, let's start getting
• 50:28
  this tub." And I'd heard of the fetal
• 50:31
  ejection reflex, right, of like the
• 50:33
  baby's just going to know. And I
• 50:34
  remember you telling me about that like
• 50:36
  the baby's just going to know like your
• 50:38
  body was made for this and like
• 50:39
  depositing that into you of like your
• 50:41
  body was made for this. All these things
• 50:43
  it brings things just natural instinct,
• 50:46
  right? So I'm like still very coherent
• 50:48
  and I get into the bathtub and I'm like
• 50:50
  so what do I do? I'm like do I lay on my
• 50:53
  back? Like what I'm just asking them
• 50:54
  like never done this before and they're
• 50:56
  like whatever's comfortable laying on my
• 50:58
  back. I could feel that. I was like
• 50:59
  absolutely not. So, I'm like in this
• 51:01
  water. I I get on all fours and like he
• 51:04
  just starts coming like I could feel
• 51:06
  that that um contraction like the fetal
• 51:10
  ejection reflex. And they were like,
• 51:12
  "Okay, lean into that like you can do
• 51:13
  it." And I just closed my eyes, kept
• 51:15
  saying, "Thank you, Jesus." And that
• 51:17
  baby came out in 12 pushes. The only
• 51:19
  thing that I like felt was that ring of
• 51:21
  fire. And I think I just pushed a little
• 51:23
  too hard or he was just a nine pound
• 51:25
  baby. And I did tear a little bit, but I
• 51:28
  pull him out of the water and you look
• 51:30
  like your brother. And I'm just like
• 51:32
  looking at him and I'm still so I'm
• 51:34
  like, "Is this too much blood?" They're
• 51:35
  like, "Geeorge, look at your baby. Just
• 51:37
  talk to him." And I'm like, "Hi, I'm
• 51:39
  your mom." I didn't know what to do,
• 51:42
  what to say cuz it just happened. And it
• 51:45
  was so beautiful. It was at 7:42 in the
• 51:47
  morning. And I just I love the
• 51:50
  significance of everything. 7
• 51:51
  completion. 42 is like the completion of
• 51:55
  the gestational period and I was 40
• 51:58
  weeks and then you know you think about
• 51:59
  Noah and the flood waters started
• 52:02
  descending after 40 and then they were
• 52:03
  in the boat and other stuff. So I just
• 52:05
  was looking into all this with the Lord
• 52:07
  of like you're in everything. I want to
• 52:09
  see you in everything and he was 9 lb 2
• 52:12
  oz and it was beautiful and I got to
• 52:15
  just they were like you want anything? I
• 52:17
  said can I have a popsicle? I didn't
• 52:19
  realize I could do anything. I just
• 52:21
  birthed the baby. I can eat a popsicle
• 52:23
  and I just put my bathrobe on and got in
• 52:25
  the bed and it was beautiful. And I got
• 52:28
  to just be there with my husband and my
• 52:30
  baby in the comfort of our home. And I
• 52:32
  love his middle name. We named him Jack
• 52:34
  Elroy.
• 52:35
  >> Yeah. I love it.
• 52:36
  >> And Elroy is the name of God. That means
• 52:38
  the God that sees me. And that was when
• 52:40
  Hagar was in the wilderness and she
• 52:43
  realized in that moment, uh, I don't
• 52:45
  just see God,
• 52:46
  >> but God actually sees me right here. And
• 52:49
  so I just it's so important the names as
• 52:52
  you know what we name our children and
• 52:54
  Jack means God is gracious. And so his
• 52:56
  name means the God that is gracious sees
• 52:58
  me. And so I truly believe that he is
• 53:01
  just a proclamation of God's goodness in
• 53:03
  that way. And it was amazing. I can't
• 53:06
  wait to do it again. And honestly like
• 53:07
  even just hearing your faith and this
• 53:10
  double portion that you're walking in
• 53:12
  I'm like okay Lord like let's do this
• 53:13
  again. Like this is exciting. like this
• 53:16
  should be something that is so
• 53:17
  celebrated not feared. I think there's
• 53:20
  just so much power in it. That's why the
• 53:23
  industry of the birth of being born and
• 53:25
  all these things are really trying to
• 53:27
  make women oppressed under and we got to
• 53:30
  bring the realization and the knowledge
• 53:32
  to like there's actually freedom in this
• 53:34
  area that you can have.
• 53:36
  >> I love having these conversations. I
• 53:37
  love hearing from other women that have
• 53:39
  experienced what I've experienced
• 53:41
  because unfortunately it's not the norm.
• 53:45
  Yeah.
• 53:46
  >> And um so I want to talk about the norm.
• 53:49
  So what have you had the opportunity to
• 53:53
  minister to women or what would you
• 53:55
  minister to women who have not been
• 53:57
  through this experience?
• 53:59
  >> Um and who feel like why didn't God see
• 54:03
  me? Like what would you tell them about
• 54:06
  even if they did believe for it? You
• 54:09
  know because I've had women say like I
• 54:11
  read the book you recommended. I was
• 54:12
  praying and it didn't happen.
• 54:14
  Yeah,
• 54:17
  even there God God sees you. Like that
• 54:19
  would be the first thing. And and I
• 54:21
  understand I've been I've been
• 54:26
  >> there have been moments where I'm like
• 54:28
  did God leave me in this area? All these
• 54:30
  things. But God God is close to the
• 54:32
  brokenhearted all these things. I think
• 54:34
  too we have to remember like it's not
• 54:37
  works, right? Yes.
• 54:39
  >> But faith without works is dead. And so
• 54:41
  I think we have to learn also how to
• 54:43
  walk out our faith, right? And not the
• 54:46
  fact that God didn't see you through and
• 54:48
  and I believe he's in every room and
• 54:50
  every birth and he will always be there,
• 54:52
  right? He is close. He is closer than
• 54:55
  your next breath. But truly too, like
• 54:58
  that doesn't mean to stop believing.
• 55:00
  Now,
• 55:02
  I have one mama friend and she believed
• 55:05
  for a pain-free birth and she did a home
• 55:08
  birth and it wasn't she didn't get her
• 55:11
  pain-free birth that she said.
• 55:13
  >> I believe that the Lord was still
• 55:15
  present, sufficient, sovereign over
• 55:17
  that. And I believe that there were
• 55:19
  things that he was still saving you from
• 55:20
  like you had a home birth. That's a
• 55:22
  miracle in of itself like than the
• 55:23
  interventions that it could have been,
• 55:25
  right? But then she's pregnant again and
• 55:28
  she's like, you know, I'm just not
• 55:29
  believing for that anymore. Like, and
• 55:31
  and I don't want us to think just
• 55:34
  because God didn't come through in this
• 55:36
  area that we stop believing in in that
• 55:39
  area, right? Like, you still should sew
• 55:41
  seeds into that garden. Like, there is
• 55:43
  still a harvest to be had. I truly do
• 55:46
  believe. And so, faith in works, how can
• 55:48
  we partner with that? if you're not like
• 55:51
  if your faith is not there, why don't
• 55:53
  you listen to some testimonies and build
• 55:54
  up this garden again of faith, right?
• 55:58
  And so for me, that faith in works was
• 56:00
  like listening to books, listening to
• 56:02
  the scriptures, like taking some
• 56:04
  supplements and eating all the dates,
• 56:06
  like doing all the things. But even if
• 56:08
  not, is God still good for you?
• 56:12
  >> You know? Yeah. Like
• 56:15
  this past journey we walked through, not
• 56:16
  even with child birth,
• 56:20
  I was like, "God, I really need you to
• 56:21
  come through." But through tears, I was
• 56:23
  like, "Even if you don't, I'll still
• 56:26
  worship you."
• 56:27
  >> Like, were you only believing in faith
• 56:30
  to get something from God?
• 56:32
  >> Right?
• 56:33
  Like that's where it's such a complex
• 56:38
  idea
• 56:40
  >> to wrap your mind around. But my one
• 56:43
  deposit into all of our friends would
• 56:46
  just be don't leave your faith.
• 56:49
  Don't let doubt and fear take over just
• 56:53
  because you didn't see a certain result.
• 56:56
  >> Yes.
• 56:56
  >> Are you focused on the result? So good
• 57:00
  because I I also think that sometimes we
• 57:03
  we do get wrapped up like we might have
• 57:06
  a really big faith but the faith is
• 57:08
  actually in the outcome of whatever
• 57:11
  thing it is that right not in God.
• 57:15
  >> And so then that creates uh another
• 57:18
  ripple effect of like your friend that's
• 57:21
  so sad you know I'm just really not
• 57:23
  believing for that this time. Why? God
• 57:25
  didn't change. His word didn't change.
• 57:28
  His promise hasn't changed.
• 57:30
  >> It's that the outcome
• 57:33
  >> did not match
• 57:35
  >> with your expectation. And that could be
• 57:39
  because your expectation
• 57:42
  >> was in the outcome and not in him. And I
• 57:45
  think that sometimes he does want to
• 57:47
  reveal that to us, you know, like, hey,
• 57:50
  >> believe me this time.
• 57:52
  >> Yeah. Like what what is your belief in?
• 57:54
  And like is it just so you're free from
• 57:56
  pain? Like for me the the whole thing
• 57:59
  cuz people say that to me like oh you
• 58:02
  just don't want to experience pain.
• 58:04
  >> No, I wanted just to experience the
• 58:05
  presence of God. Exactly.
• 58:06
  >> So my eyes were just fixed on Jesus.
• 58:09
  What were your eyes fixed on?
• 58:10
  >> Yeah.
• 58:11
  >> I think that like you can apply this to
• 58:13
  every area of your life.
• 58:15
  >> Like what were your eyes fixed on?
• 58:18
  >> Right.
• 58:21
  >> That's heavy.
• 58:22
  >> Yeah. That's
• 58:23
  >> and it is it is really convicting and I
• 58:25
  think again it's a really sensitive
• 58:27
  topic to talk about faith because
• 58:30
  >> obviously you don't want to hurt people.
• 58:32
  >> No.
• 58:32
  >> And you don't want to offend people but
• 58:34
  sometimes people
• 58:36
  >> it will offend people.
• 58:37
  >> People are just offended in their own in
• 58:40
  their own heart already.
• 58:41
  >> Yeah.
• 58:42
  >> And they filter everything through the
• 58:43
  wound rather than the word. M
• 58:46
  >> and so they start to shape their
• 58:49
  theology around the things that they
• 58:51
  have been through or have not been
• 58:53
  through instead of allowing God's
• 58:56
  theology and God's, you know, unchanging
• 59:00
  promise to challenge them and to call
• 59:02
  them higher.
• 59:04
  And I've had to walk through that. Like
• 59:06
  I'm not sitting here on some high horse
• 59:09
  like I'm exempt from this. I've like I
• 59:11
  just shared with you, there's areas
• 59:12
  God's revealed to me, your faith is not
• 59:14
  fortified in XYZ, and I need it to be.
• 59:18
  So, I need you
• 59:20
  >> to partner with me in that. And what you
• 59:23
  were saying about works is good because
• 59:24
  I had this revelation while I was
• 59:26
  reading the book of Galatians, which is
• 59:28
  just like, oh my gosh, amazing. Um, you
• 59:31
  know, Paul's talking all about it's not
• 59:33
  works, it's faith. It's not works, it's
• 59:35
  faith. It's not works, it's faith. But
• 59:37
  then he's talking about, you know, the
• 59:41
  fruit of the spirit and self-control
• 59:45
  being one of them. And I realized, oh my
• 59:48
  gosh, it's like it's like, you know,
• 59:49
  when you read something in the word and
• 59:50
  everything else comes to life. I was
• 59:52
  like, faith without works is dead.
• 59:54
  >> Oh, because even the works are produced
• 59:58
  from the faith. Like
• 1:00:00
  >> the faith in the Holy Spirit, the faith
• 1:00:02
  in in Christ crucified in his spirit now
• 1:00:06
  indwelling within me produces a fruit of
• 1:00:09
  self-control which is what enables me to
• 1:00:13
  steward my body well. Like you're saying
• 1:00:15
  the pineapple, the dates, the you know
• 1:00:18
  for me it's like exercise and like and
• 1:00:20
  the this and the that being vigilant uh
• 1:00:23
  and even in the mind renewal, right?
• 1:00:26
  like making sure I'm in the word that I
• 1:00:28
  am taking that time to feed my mind my
• 1:00:31
  daily bread and to have my mind
• 1:00:33
  transformed by what he's saying that
• 1:00:36
  comes from the self-ontrol
• 1:00:38
  that his fruit
• 1:00:40
  >> has put within me. So what's being
• 1:00:44
  produced is not a worksbased mentality
• 1:00:47
  to achieve a pain-free birth or to
• 1:00:49
  achieve, you know, I don't know, belief
• 1:00:52
  for more provision, whatever the thing
• 1:00:55
  is that you're going a new house, right?
• 1:00:57
  Anything, anything. It's not because
• 1:00:59
  you're trying to climb your way to God.
• 1:01:02
  It's because the Holy Spirit within you
• 1:01:05
  enables you to produce the works that
• 1:01:09
  gives glory to your father in heaven.
• 1:01:11
  And I'm like reading this I was like
• 1:01:13
  wow.
• 1:01:14
  >> Yeah.
• 1:01:15
  >> You know even even in the birth itself
• 1:01:17
  like
• 1:01:19
  >> there were
• 1:01:21
  the the the way that I was so in tune
• 1:01:24
  and tapped into my body that was
• 1:01:26
  self-control.
• 1:01:27
  >> Yeah.
• 1:01:28
  >> You know and that's from him. That's
• 1:01:30
  >> abiding in the vine.
• 1:01:32
  >> Yeah.
• 1:01:32
  >> So it's where your faith meets your
• 1:01:35
  feet. Your faith has to have feet. There
• 1:01:38
  has to be this activation where you not
• 1:01:40
  just believe it, you walk it out.
• 1:01:42
  >> Yeah.
• 1:01:42
  >> Right. And that's what you did. Like
• 1:01:45
  you're not just saying, "Oh, I believe
• 1:01:46
  that God can do it."
• 1:01:48
  That's easy. You can say whatever. But
• 1:01:51
  can you believe it in your heart and
• 1:01:52
  start positioning yourself in a way that
• 1:01:54
  you're going to see that thing all the
• 1:01:56
  way through?
• 1:01:57
  >> It's one thing to say, "Oh, God's going
• 1:01:58
  to give us a new place to live." Okay.
• 1:02:01
  Well, will you pack up your house in
• 1:02:03
  faith without knowing where you're going
• 1:02:05
  next? Will you begin to give everything
• 1:02:08
  away that I ask you to? Like there's
• 1:02:11
  these steps of obedience. And I once
• 1:02:13
  heard it said that obedience is the
• 1:02:15
  fruit of a heart that's madly in love.
• 1:02:18
  And because you believe him, because you
• 1:02:20
  love him, you begin to see these things
• 1:02:22
  made manifest in your story because the
• 1:02:24
  father is just showing off and you're
• 1:02:26
  just walking out the fruit. You're just
• 1:02:28
  staying abiding.
• 1:02:30
  >> Wow.
• 1:02:30
  >> And that's what that's what this
• 1:02:32
  self-control is, right? Like I can say
• 1:02:34
  no to those voices out of self-control.
• 1:02:37
  >> Yes.
• 1:02:37
  >> Like that is powerful. That's a weapon
• 1:02:40
  in our tool belt.
• 1:02:42
  >> That's good.
• 1:02:43
  >> I even think about like when Peter got
• 1:02:45
  out of the boat,
• 1:02:47
  >> Jesus was calling him forward in faith.
• 1:02:50
  Like get out. Not just believe like you
• 1:02:52
  see me on the water, I can do it. See,
• 1:02:54
  >> it's like great. It's like no, you get
• 1:02:56
  out and you you walk toward me. And the
• 1:03:00
  moment he took his eyes off Jesus, it
• 1:03:03
  became about what he was capable and how
• 1:03:06
  he and what he was capable of doing and
• 1:03:08
  how how he had an ability in him own
• 1:03:11
  self to meet God there, but that failed
• 1:03:14
  and he started to drown.
• 1:03:16
  >> Yeah, I've done that.
• 1:03:17
  >> Um, we all have
• 1:03:20
  >> like plenty of times,
• 1:03:21
  >> right?
• 1:03:21
  >> And I think, you know, this is another
• 1:03:23
  thing like it's okay to admit that that
• 1:03:26
  >> Yeah, there's actually such freedom in
• 1:03:28
  that. This truly is
• 1:03:29
  >> because then we can say when I do fix my
• 1:03:31
  eyes on Jesus because literally I I I've
• 1:03:34
  been telling people this past season I
• 1:03:35
  walked through was harder than child
• 1:03:37
  birth for me
• 1:03:38
  >> and they're like well that doesn't make
• 1:03:39
  sense. Well, it's because I I kept
• 1:03:41
  taking my eyes off Jesus. I kept
• 1:03:43
  allowing that doubt to come in all these
• 1:03:45
  things. But when that area
• 1:03:47
  >> was so fortified, you couldn't have me.
• 1:03:49
  So it goes to expose us like everything
• 1:03:52
  that he takes us through, every test,
• 1:03:53
  every trial, every season, it is all
• 1:03:56
  significant because he's showing you
• 1:03:57
  areas that you are strong in and areas
• 1:03:59
  that you are weak in that he wants to
• 1:04:01
  truly lift you higher in because there's
• 1:04:03
  something in this that he says, "Okay,
• 1:04:06
  you can't go any further without us
• 1:04:08
  dealing with this because this next
• 1:04:09
  season I'm taking you into, you're going
• 1:04:11
  to need that. You're going to need that
• 1:04:13
  faith. You're going to need that
• 1:04:14
  activation. You're going to need that
• 1:04:15
  positioning." So I can take you. And
• 1:04:18
  sometimes you may think, well, I've been
• 1:04:19
  in this cycle for a while. Okay, let's
• 1:04:21
  let's take account. What have you not
• 1:04:24
  surrendered? What have you not given up?
• 1:04:26
  What have you not leaned into? Because
• 1:04:28
  there's an invitation in all of this to
• 1:04:31
  let go and to pick up. If if it's faith,
• 1:04:34
  right? Or if it's to let go of doubt in
• 1:04:36
  this area. So you can remember what he
• 1:04:38
  did in this area, he's going to show up
• 1:04:40
  in this area. What does it look like
• 1:04:42
  practically for you, I guess, to
• 1:04:46
  ward off the doubt, ward off the fear?
• 1:04:48
  Because it it it's a temptation and it
• 1:04:51
  comes it comes after all of us. Like no
• 1:04:52
  one's exempt from that, right?
• 1:04:54
  >> Yeah.
• 1:04:54
  >> So, what does that what has that looked
• 1:04:56
  like for you and what do you want to
• 1:04:57
  encourage other people with?
• 1:04:58
  >> No, absolutely. I think I've learned two
• 1:05:00
  things recently is the practical
• 1:05:03
  obedience and then the radical
• 1:05:05
  obedience. Like sometimes people will
• 1:05:07
  only share with you like their mountain
• 1:05:08
  top like look what I did for the Lord.
• 1:05:11
  Look at this radical.
• 1:05:12
  >> I packed up my whole house. Right. Yeah.
• 1:05:13
  >> Right. And they're like oh good for you.
• 1:05:14
  Cool. But for me this practical
• 1:05:17
  obedience I think it starts at a trash
• 1:05:20
  can. Like you're trying to be LeBron
• 1:05:23
  James, Steph Curry trying to throw this
• 1:05:25
  into the trash can and you miss.
• 1:05:28
  You are in a room alone and you get to
• 1:05:30
  decide am I going to go over there and
• 1:05:31
  take the extra second pick it up and
• 1:05:32
  throw it in the trash can or not. That's
• 1:05:34
  a character marking moment for you. Like
• 1:05:36
  who are you when no one sees you, right?
• 1:05:39
  And so it's this practical obedience.
• 1:05:41
  Practice being obedient with the small
• 1:05:43
  things, right? He who can be entrusted
• 1:05:45
  with a little can be entrusted with a
• 1:05:47
  lot. And so it's this faith of believing
• 1:05:49
  God at his word and then allowing that
• 1:05:52
  to grow into these more radical things,
• 1:05:55
  right? Because we'd all like to say, "I
• 1:05:57
  can just do the radical, right? Put your
• 1:06:00
  Isaac on the altar." But what about the
• 1:06:02
  practical things that he's asking you to
• 1:06:04
  do to walk in faith to shut that doubt
• 1:06:07
  out the door when it comes to the little
• 1:06:09
  things, right? And so, man, like just
• 1:06:13
  practicing obedience, practicing my
• 1:06:15
  faith in these little tangible ways
• 1:06:17
  throughout the day with my children,
• 1:06:20
  like inviting them into my faith. What
• 1:06:23
  does that look like? Right? Like just
• 1:06:26
  >> taking God at his word, sharing that.
• 1:06:28
  Like, man, I just have to kick the doubt
• 1:06:31
  out. And the more I speak life, the more
• 1:06:33
  the doubt can't come in because it's not
• 1:06:35
  the language of what I'm speaking. It's
• 1:06:37
  not who I am. I have to hold my own
• 1:06:39
  tongue because I don't want the enemy to
• 1:06:40
  have it even if I do have it. Because
• 1:06:43
  truly, a tree has everything it needs in
• 1:06:45
  a seed. So, your words aren't sounds,
• 1:06:48
  they're seeds. So, whatever you say is
• 1:06:51
  going to take root. Who you have around
• 1:06:53
  you is going to influence your your
• 1:06:55
  vocabulary. And so I think there's a lot
• 1:06:58
  of things, but just this obedience of
• 1:07:00
  like practical things of the daily
• 1:07:02
  things you got to do, right, are what
• 1:07:04
  makes you. And then as that makes you,
• 1:07:07
  it launches you into the radical things
• 1:07:09
  of the radical obedience and faith that
• 1:07:11
  you walk in.
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  >> So good. So good.
• 1:07:14
  >> I hope that answered the question.
• 1:07:15
  >> Oh my gosh. Yeah, it really does. Well,
• 1:07:18
  because I think you know something
• 1:07:20
  obedience has been another huge theme in
• 1:07:23
  the I keep saying like the thankless
• 1:07:26
  deeds,
• 1:07:28
  >> you know, like taking the time to spend
• 1:07:31
  with him. Not because I'm like trying to
• 1:07:33
  check off a box like I read my Bible
• 1:07:35
  today, but it's like
• 1:07:37
  >> the devil and even your flesh will come
• 1:07:41
  up with 45 million different excuses why
• 1:07:44
  you can't take even 10 minutes
• 1:07:46
  >> Oh,
• 1:07:47
  >> to read the Bible.
• 1:07:48
  >> Mhm.
• 1:07:49
  >> And it's just never it's just never an
• 1:07:51
  adequate excuse,
• 1:07:53
  >> right?
• 1:07:53
  >> Because it is in that consistency and
• 1:07:56
  that showing up in the self-control to
• 1:07:58
  to
• 1:08:00
  >> bring yourself before him. Yeah.
• 1:08:02
  >> And to fill your mind with this because
• 1:08:04
  it's the only way your mind's ever going
• 1:08:05
  to change.
• 1:08:07
  >> Oh, I don't want me without him. Like
• 1:08:09
  for real, I need it like first fruit of
• 1:08:12
  the day because the whole day is going
• 1:08:14
  to change, right? Like small steps in
• 1:08:17
  the same direction lead you to beautiful
• 1:08:18
  destinations. If you want to see results
• 1:08:20
  in the gym, you got to be consistent,
• 1:08:23
  right? Like even if I take off a week
• 1:08:25
  from the gym, I my muscles can feel it.
• 1:08:27
  I'm like, why am I not as strong as I
• 1:08:28
  was last week? You know what I mean?
• 1:08:30
  It's like this. Why am I dealing with
• 1:08:32
  these temptations and these fears? Oh
• 1:08:34
  gosh, I haven't been in the word. Like,
• 1:08:36
  and then we get so shocked.
• 1:08:38
  >> Yeah.
• 1:08:39
  >> We We're like, what's wrong with me?
• 1:08:41
  Well, get back to to to the daily bread.
• 1:08:43
  Like, you know, the the scale goes up a
• 1:08:46
  few pounds. Well, what have you been
• 1:08:47
  eating? What have you been fueling
• 1:08:49
  yourself with? What are you watching on
• 1:08:51
  TV? What are your eye gates taking in?
• 1:08:53
  What are you listening to? All of this
• 1:08:56
  we have to take account for. It comes
• 1:08:58
  down to that self-control. And I truly
• 1:08:59
  believe when that list of the fruit of
• 1:09:01
  the spirit comes out, you begin with
• 1:09:03
  love cuz that has to be your foundation.
• 1:09:05
  But self-control is that very last one
• 1:09:06
  mentioned because that needs to be your
• 1:09:08
  cover over all these areas.
• 1:09:09
  >> Really good.
• 1:09:10
  >> You know, like that needs to be your
• 1:09:11
  cherry on top of like this is the last
• 1:09:13
  thing. And it's so beautiful because the
• 1:09:16
  last thing that someone says to you
• 1:09:18
  usually is the first thing you remember.
• 1:09:19
  Like you run out the door to the school
• 1:09:20
  bus and you're like, "Bye, I love you."
• 1:09:23
  Like that's the first thing you're going
• 1:09:24
  to remember. And so when it comes to
• 1:09:26
  that self-control, I believe that that's
• 1:09:28
  the first thing that we need to remember
• 1:09:29
  is, hey, have this self-control cuz you
• 1:09:32
  know, we have all this stuff out here,
• 1:09:33
  but not all of it might be beneficial
• 1:09:35
  for you. So have that self-control in
• 1:09:37
  all things.
• 1:09:38
  >> So good. And how would you say identity
• 1:09:42
  plays a role in faith?
• 1:09:46
  >> Everything. It it it mark it marks you
• 1:09:49
  like truly I want to be the greatest
• 1:09:52
  inspiration for my children in this area
• 1:09:55
  like for real because when it came to
• 1:09:57
  this belief thing when it even came to a
• 1:09:59
  home I was in a private encounter with
• 1:10:01
  the Lord and the Lord showed me like a
• 1:10:03
  vision and really that's a scary word
• 1:10:06
  for just the Lord showed me this picture
• 1:10:07
  in my head
• 1:10:08
  >> of my mimi my my mom's mom knocking on a
• 1:10:12
  door
• 1:10:13
  >> and my my the Lord was like ask your mom
• 1:10:16
  about that story about your mimi
• 1:10:17
  knocking on this door to her what ended
• 1:10:20
  up being her lake house. And so I was
• 1:10:22
  like, "Mom, can you tell me that story
• 1:10:23
  again?" And so, long story short, my
• 1:10:25
  mimi knocked on this this house cuz she
• 1:10:28
  loved it. And she was like, "Hey, if you
• 1:10:29
  guys ever consider selling, like I'd
• 1:10:32
  love to to buy your house." And they
• 1:10:34
  were like, "Actually, we've been talking
• 1:10:35
  about it. Our health is kind of failing
• 1:10:37
  us." They were a little older. And so my
• 1:10:39
  Mimi got that house cuz she knocked on a
• 1:10:41
  door. And the neighbors at the time were
• 1:10:44
  so upset because they've been asking for
• 1:10:46
  years for that house if they ever sold
• 1:10:47
  it. But she was the one that knocked on
• 1:10:49
  the door. So her faith
• 1:10:51
  >> got to her feet and she knocked on a
• 1:10:53
  door in 2021,
• 1:10:55
  I don't know, or 2020, one of the years.
• 1:10:58
  My mom went knocking on doors in
• 1:11:01
  Murphy'sboro and she was like, I think I
• 1:11:03
  want to buy a house here. So she started
• 1:11:05
  knocking on doors. She knocked on door.
• 1:11:07
  We
• 1:11:07
  >> we stayed in an Airbnb here. Are you
• 1:11:10
  guys selling? No, but I think next door
• 1:11:12
  is. Knock on their door. So she knock
• 1:11:14
  knock knock knock knock knock knock knock knocks on their door are you guys
• 1:11:16
  selling yeah we already sold but I think
• 1:11:19
  two streets over there's an older guy
• 1:11:21
  and he's renovating a house you should
• 1:11:23
  go knock on his door she's like all
• 1:11:25
  right so she goes and knocks on this
• 1:11:26
  man's door she'd been praying for a
• 1:11:29
  house with two master bedrooms ranch
• 1:11:31
  style white like that's just what she
• 1:11:33
  would if she had an opinion that's what
• 1:11:35
  it would be me and my brother would each
• 1:11:37
  get our own master room and we'd just
• 1:11:38
  rent from my mom
• 1:11:40
  >> and cuz we were both out here in
• 1:11:41
  Tennessee and so she goes and knocks on
• 1:11:43
  this man's door and he's like, "I'm
• 1:11:45
  renovating this house for my wife and
• 1:11:47
  grandkids, you know, to have um it's a
• 1:11:50
  couple streets down. Would you like to
• 1:11:51
  go see it?" And she was like, "Yeah, I'd
• 1:11:54
  love to." So, he shows her the house.
• 1:11:56
  It's not on the market. And my mom said,
• 1:11:59
  "This house is everything." It had two
• 1:12:01
  master bedrooms. It was a white style
• 1:12:03
  ranch home. And she was like, "We'll
• 1:12:06
  take it." And he's like, "Okay, I'll
• 1:12:08
  I'll sell it to you." And so the Lord
• 1:12:11
  shows me all this and he begins to teach
• 1:12:13
  me about generational faith.
• 1:12:15
  >> Yeah.
• 1:12:15
  >> And the Lord said, "Georgia, in this
• 1:12:17
  season,
• 1:12:19
  I want you to know they knocked on man's
• 1:12:21
  door, but you've knocked on my door. And
• 1:12:25
  so I will see you through this door."
• 1:12:28
  And what does it look like not to just
• 1:12:29
  look at our our our heritage and our
• 1:12:32
  family tree as this, oh, what
• 1:12:35
  generational curses do I need to break
• 1:12:37
  off? You know what I because we're so
• 1:12:38
  heavy on that, which we should be,
• 1:12:40
  right? Like, I don't want any of that.
• 1:12:41
  Bye.
• 1:12:42
  >> Right. Right.
• 1:12:43
  >> And then you got the blessing side of
• 1:12:44
  it. But what if the blessing is is
• 1:12:47
  faith?
• 1:12:49
  >> Wow.
• 1:12:50
  >> What about this generational faith that
• 1:12:52
  we need to listen to the stories? And
• 1:12:55
  so, if my mimi was knocking on doors, my
• 1:12:58
  mama was knocking on doors, but silver
• 1:13:00
  and gold have I none. I'm out here
• 1:13:03
  living checkto check with the Lord in
• 1:13:05
  full-time ministry and I knock on his
• 1:13:07
  door. The one that owns cattle on a
• 1:13:10
  thousand hills.
• 1:13:13
  What does that show the generations to
• 1:13:15
  come?
• 1:13:16
  Wow. That's where I want to live at. And
• 1:13:19
  so we need to be walking in faith not
• 1:13:21
  just to influence those, you know, of
• 1:13:24
  our generation, of our friends, of those
• 1:13:26
  watching and we'll watch later. What
• 1:13:27
  about our own bloodline? Like because
• 1:13:30
  when we invited our six-year-old into
• 1:13:32
  this journey of like, "Hey, this is what
• 1:13:33
  we're believing God for." Then it
• 1:13:35
  becomes really real. You're like,
• 1:13:37
  >> "Yeah,
• 1:13:38
  >> I'm believing God for something way
• 1:13:40
  bigger than myself."
• 1:13:41
  >> It's true.
• 1:13:42
  >> But then it stirs something in them
• 1:13:44
  because there's no junior Holy Spirit.
• 1:13:46
  >> Yeah.
• 1:13:46
  >> And so inviting them in even when you're
• 1:13:48
  scared of what the outcome can be, can
• 1:13:50
  you still trust God and bring them in on
• 1:13:51
  that journey? So man, generational faith
• 1:13:54
  I've been learning a lot about.
• 1:13:55
  >> Yeah. That's so crazy you said that cuz
• 1:13:57
  when you started telling your testimony
• 1:13:58
  at the like within the first three
• 1:14:00
  minutes,
• 1:14:01
  >> I was thinking to myself like how
• 1:14:02
  beautiful is that that there's like a
• 1:14:04
  generational thing happening here.
• 1:14:06
  >> Yeah.
• 1:14:06
  >> Like you said like four generations back
• 1:14:08
  or something of just like women that
• 1:14:10
  >> have been serving the Lord, walking with
• 1:14:12
  the Lord. That's incredible.
• 1:14:14
  >> And it's true because that's that's
• 1:14:16
  really the goal, right? I mean, the
• 1:14:18
  testimonies are phenomenal. It's so
• 1:14:21
  encouraging that as toxic as social
• 1:14:24
  media is, as this digital age is, that
• 1:14:27
  we're truly able to fulfill the great
• 1:14:29
  commission in the aspect of spread the
• 1:14:32
  gospel to all the nations. So, it's
• 1:14:33
  amazing that our testimonies and our
• 1:14:35
  faith can reach people that we would
• 1:14:38
  never be able to reach otherwise,
• 1:14:40
  >> right?
• 1:14:40
  >> But what matters more
• 1:14:43
  is what's happening in the four walls of
• 1:14:45
  your home.
• 1:14:46
  >> Yeah.
• 1:14:46
  >> And the seeds that are being sewn
• 1:14:48
  through the faith in that. And that's
• 1:14:50
  something else like going back to the
• 1:14:51
  painfree birth thing.
• 1:14:53
  >> I can't wait to tell SA that story,
• 1:14:55
  >> right?
• 1:14:56
  >> And to tell it to her over and over and
• 1:14:58
  over again. And to me, you know, it's
• 1:15:02
  like I don't want to take away what
• 1:15:06
  other women have experienced because as
• 1:15:08
  you said, I believe God is sovereign
• 1:15:09
  over all of those, you know, for lack of
• 1:15:13
  a better word, uh, traumatizing births,
• 1:15:16
  >> right? But
• 1:15:18
  when when people begin to reframe those
• 1:15:20
  experiences is like this is just what
• 1:15:23
  God willed for me.
• 1:15:24
  >> Like the most traumatizing experience of
• 1:15:26
  my life to bring this gift. The Bible
• 1:15:29
  says children are a gift from the Lord.
• 1:15:31
  >> A reward
• 1:15:32
  >> to bring this child into the world
• 1:15:35
  through a traumatizing experience is
• 1:15:37
  what the Lord wanted for me. I feel like
• 1:15:40
  that can actually sew something in a
• 1:15:42
  child.
• 1:15:43
  >> Yes. you know, oh, I was a traumatizing
• 1:15:46
  experience.
• 1:15:48
  >> And I don't want to deposit that in her
• 1:15:53
  mind or in her heart. And I don't want
• 1:15:54
  her to believe that
• 1:15:56
  >> it was God's will for me to go through
• 1:16:01
  the worst thing I've ever encountered.
• 1:16:04
  >> Mhm.
• 1:16:04
  >> For her to be here.
• 1:16:06
  >> Because I don't I don't believe that.
• 1:16:08
  >> Cuz I don't believe that.
• 1:16:08
  >> I felt the same way with Jack because
• 1:16:10
  I've heard of that. Like I don't want
• 1:16:12
  the first thing for him to to hear
• 1:16:15
  outside the room internalized. Right.
• 1:16:16
  >> Yes. To be screaming in in agony of like
• 1:16:20
  and so I wanted him to be brought forth
• 1:16:22
  into peace. And if the word says that it
• 1:16:26
  shall be on earth as it is in heaven. He
• 1:16:28
  asks us to pray that. You're asking me,
• 1:16:31
  you're inviting me to pray it to pull
• 1:16:33
  down heaven here. Okay. Well, on earth
• 1:16:36
  as it is in heaven in my birth. And so I
• 1:16:39
  I believe God's will is it for it to be
• 1:16:42
  here as it is there. So who's going to
• 1:16:45
  do that? We are. We are. We are the
• 1:16:48
  kingdom here. We're going to do that. So
• 1:16:50
  that's why I drew a permanent boundary
• 1:16:52
  line of fortifying that birth. You
• 1:16:54
  cannot have this. You cannot have me.
• 1:16:56
  You cannot have my child. That's why
• 1:16:58
  it's so important to to speak this
• 1:17:00
  language over our children. And so I
• 1:17:02
  agree with you wholeheartedly. I don't
• 1:17:04
  believe that's God's will for people.
• 1:17:06
  And I hate that they would even say that
• 1:17:07
  and come into agreement with it. And
• 1:17:09
  I've heard it before. And so, man, I've
• 1:17:12
  even had friends say like, I think it's
• 1:17:14
  just going to be harder for me to
• 1:17:16
  conceive. Who told you that? Why do you
• 1:17:18
  believe that? We're going back to the
• 1:17:19
  garden.
• 1:17:20
  >> Yeah.
• 1:17:20
  >> Of who told you? And because there are
• 1:17:24
  more voices that they realize that
• 1:17:26
  they're listening to that they think
• 1:17:28
  it's just themselves.
• 1:17:30
  And so
• 1:17:31
  >> it's in these moments where we have to
• 1:17:33
  even sorry be the friend that says who
• 1:17:36
  told you.
• 1:17:37
  >> Yeah.
• 1:17:38
  >> Like did you know that there's actually
• 1:17:40
  a better way?
• 1:17:41
  >> Yeah.
• 1:17:41
  >> Like they may have heard the gospel, but
• 1:17:43
  have they heard the good news of
• 1:17:44
  everything that the gospel paid for?
• 1:17:47
  >> Right. Everyone always wants to go back
• 1:17:48
  to like Job and well Paul had a thorn in
• 1:17:52
  his flesh, but you know, the Lord's
• 1:17:54
  grace was sufficient. both of those
• 1:17:57
  circumstances that people like to
• 1:17:58
  default to in in a way really to justify
• 1:18:02
  their suffering,
• 1:18:03
  >> right?
• 1:18:05
  >> The word could not be more coherent that
• 1:18:09
  those circumstances were from Satan.
• 1:18:12
  Yeah, God allowed it, of course,
• 1:18:13
  >> right?
• 1:18:14
  >> But they were from Satan. The thorn in
• 1:18:16
  his flesh was a messenger from Satan.
• 1:18:19
  Mhm.
• 1:18:19
  >> I actually I think it was a demon going
• 1:18:22
  that's like a whole other theological
• 1:18:23
  rabbit hole. But a messenger from Satan.
• 1:18:27
  >> So that's not God's will. Now it is
• 1:18:30
  God's will that his grace is sufficient.
• 1:18:33
  But a messenger from Satan is an
• 1:18:35
  assignment.
• 1:18:36
  >> Yeah.
• 1:18:37
  >> You know.
• 1:18:37
  >> Yeah.
• 1:18:37
  >> And we we should pray against it. We
• 1:18:40
  shouldn't just ex Paul prayed against
• 1:18:41
  it. Like that's kind of the forest for
• 1:18:43
  the trees that's missed there. Paul
• 1:18:45
  continues to pray against it and he
• 1:18:47
  says, "I prayed against it three times
• 1:18:48
  and it was still there and God's
• 1:18:51
  allowing it, but he doesn't say he
• 1:18:53
  stopped praying for it to go.
• 1:18:55
  >> He didn't stop believing God for the
• 1:18:57
  freedom."
• 1:18:58
  >> Yeah.
• 1:18:59
  >> But he learned something in the process.
• 1:19:01
  And so sometimes I feel like we just get
• 1:19:03
  caught up in in taking it so far and
• 1:19:07
  then stopping there because we're afraid
• 1:19:09
  to continue believing for the freedom.
• 1:19:12
  >> Yeah. Like where do you give up? Yeah.
• 1:19:14
  Like how far are you willing to go?
• 1:19:16
  >> Yeah.
• 1:19:17
  >> Just when you don't see it maybe in your
• 1:19:18
  own timeline.
• 1:19:19
  >> Yeah,
• 1:19:20
  >> that's good.
• 1:19:21
  >> It's I mean it's it's not easy stuff to
• 1:19:23
  like to digest. None of this is.
• 1:19:25
  >> No.
• 1:19:26
  >> But
• 1:19:27
  I believe that's why even God allows
• 1:19:30
  >> as a spiritual gifting a gift of faith
• 1:19:33
  too.
• 1:19:33
  >> Yeah.
• 1:19:34
  >> And I I do believe I have that.
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  >> Yeah.
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  >> Um you probably do too. And he gives he
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  gives us these gifts, you know. So it
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  would be it would be beyond like the
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  I don't know the measure of faith just
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  given to each believer which is the same
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  because as a gift it would be to edify
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  and build up and encourage the body of
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  Christ
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  >> which is why I believe he allows us to
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  have
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  >> different giftings and different
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  functions within the body. And so I pray
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  that
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  >> we were able to exhort someone else
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  today.
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  >> Yeah. What is something just like to
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  close out that you would say to anyone
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  who wants to
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  be like, "Wow." Like someone watching
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  this that's like, "I really just want to
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  believe God like they do." What would
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  you say?
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  >> I would say take God at his word.
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  Believe him the first time.
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  >> Believe him the first time. Like
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  whenever I tell my son to do something,
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  I'm like, "Just do it the first time,
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  right? I don't need to ask again and
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  again. Like, believe God the first time
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  when he speaks to you. When he speaks to
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  you in here, believe him the first time.
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  That should just be enough.
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  But I would also like to pray for them.
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  >> Yeah, please do.
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  >> Yeah, I think we should. Oh, Lord, we
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  thank you that every good and perfect
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  gift comes from above. That with you,
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  you're you're you're no shifting shadow.
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  There's no darkness. You are all light.
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  and you've called us out of darkness and
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  into the light in all things. So God, we
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  just pray that this gift of faith, gifts
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  are freely given just as you gave your
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  son Jesus to us. And as we receive it,
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  it's the gift of eternal life through
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  Christ Jesus. Lord God, we thank you
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  that your gift to us was your one and
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  only son. And God, that his blood paid
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  for it all. That we take a drink from
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  his cup. We come to his well that never
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  runs dry. And so Lord God, whatever our
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  friends right now that are listening are
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  believing for in faith, Lord God, may
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  they truly believe in their heart and do
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  not doubt, we bind and break all doubt,
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  all discouragement, all isolation that
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  the enemy is trying to come against
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  them. We pray that faith would arise and
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  stir in their hearts because of the
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  goodness of the word, not just of what
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  we have said and what we've experienced,
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  but because your word is enough and that
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  they would believe you the first time.
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  So, Father, I just pray that faith would
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  arise and that they would speak life out
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  of their own tongue. We just bind and
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  break all assignments against their life
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  that have tried to come against their
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  seeds of life spoken and the seeds that
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  they are walking in faith in. God, I
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  pray that there would be an activation
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  that their feet would begin to move.
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  Faith without works is dead. So give us
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  a live faith where we're partnering with
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  you in the spirit but also in the
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  natural with practical day-to-day things
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  but the radical God as you call us out
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  upon the water. May we just fix our eyes
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  on you Jesus the pioneer and the
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  perfector what of our faith. So God
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  fortify us in all of these areas.
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  Father, we just ask that you would
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  dispatch your armies, your heavenly
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  hosts around us to encourage us and
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  equip us and fight against the schemes
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  of the enemy, of the defeated foe that
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  is truly under our feet. May he stay
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  there as we walk in faith, God, we get
• 1:22:57
  to trample on hell. How exciting, how
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  glorious, how marvelous. Right now, we
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  just impart to your children the the
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  fruit of faith can be theirs, God, of
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  having a pain-free birth, of praying
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  past the rain, of truly whatever they're
• 1:23:14
  believing for can bless past them. It's
• 1:23:17
  not just about us. Lord God, I thank you
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  that it is about all of those that are
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  in our village of people and in our
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  circle of influence. May we be able to
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  love well. Give us eyes to see and ears
• 1:23:29
  to hear what you are doing. May the joy
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  of the Lord be their strength. God, I
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  pray peace that surpasses all
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  understanding for any pregnant woman,
• 1:23:38
  any woman that has been dealing with
• 1:23:40
  infertility or miscarriages. In the name
• 1:23:42
  of Jesus, we speak wholeness over your
• 1:23:44
  womb and over your heart, over your
• 1:23:46
  marriage. And Lord God, we just bind and
• 1:23:48
  break all insecurity off anyone that is
• 1:23:51
  not walking in the fullness of their
• 1:23:52
  identity, knowing their sunship and
• 1:23:54
  daughtership of what the cross paid for
• 1:23:57
  and what the empty tomb represents.
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  You're the only God that walked out. So,
• 1:24:03
  thank you. Thank you, Jesus. Thank you,
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  Jesus. That's all we have to say is
• 1:24:08
  thank you. So, thank you for loving us.
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  Thank you for the abundance of life that
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  we get to walk in. You are our portion.
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  You are the miracle, the sign, and the
• 1:24:19
  wonder.
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  >> So, we just come into agreement with
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  you. We love you. We praise you. I bless
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  everyone under the sound of my voice.
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  And it's in Jesus name that we pray.
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  >> Amen.
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  >> Amen. That was such a blessing. Thank
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  you so much.
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  >> Hallelujah.
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  >> It's so hard to come down from a prayer.
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  I every time like I have just like to
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  close out casually like okay heaven's
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  here.
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  >> Oh nothing happened. Everything
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  happened. Thank you Jesus.
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  >> Thank you for that. So where can people
• 1:24:46
  find you now?
• 1:24:48
  >> Oh fun. I hang out on my little corner
• 1:24:50
  of the internet at the Georgia Williams
• 1:24:52
  on Instagram. And then I have a podcast
• 1:24:55
  called Without Ceasing. And it is a
• 1:24:57
  prayer podcast where I literally just
• 1:25:00
  pray and we just come into agreement
• 1:25:02
  with heaven over your life over so many
• 1:25:04
  different topics. And so you can expect
• 1:25:06
  that two days a week and to truly have
• 1:25:09
  someone that will truly partner in faith
• 1:25:11
  and belief with whatever you're
• 1:25:12
  believing for and whatever situation and
• 1:25:15
  circumstance that you're going through.
• 1:25:16
  And I have a new book coming out this
• 1:25:19
  fall. Super excited. It is a prayer
• 1:25:21
  devotional and it's called praying
• 1:25:23
  anyways talking to God when you don't
• 1:25:25
  feel like it. And so that'll be
• 1:25:27
  available anywhere books are sold. So
• 1:25:30
  >> we can just hang out and have fun and be
• 1:25:32
  friends. So come find me.
• 1:25:34
  >> Amen. Thank you so much.
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  >> Thank you
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  >> guys. Go ahead and leave a comment
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  below. Let us know how this blessed you
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  because I know it blessed me. Um what
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  else? I'm on Instagram at Angela Marie
• 1:25:44
  Kafiti so you can check me out there.
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  Otherwise, I will see you in the next
• 1:25:47
  video. Thanks for watching.