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D’backs bring back Zac Gallen, Nick Castellanos signs with Padres, Harper responds to Dombrowski · Foul Territory

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Speaker 1: Let's charging about.
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Speaker 2: All right, let's talk about Zach Gallon going to Arizona.
0:08
Speaker 2: We heard from Ken Rosenthal. He talked a lot about how,
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Speaker 2: you know, every off season it feels as if at
0:13
Speaker 2: least one free agent who rejects a qualifying offer gets burned.
0:18
Speaker 2: And you know he said this off season, that was
0:20
Speaker 2: free agent Zach Gallon. On Friday, he agreed to a
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Speaker 2: one year, twenty two million dollar contract with the Diamondbacks.
0:27
Speaker 2: His deal equal the amount of the qualifying offer that
0:30
Speaker 2: he rejected from the Diamondbacks, but deferrals reduced the net
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Speaker 2: present to present value to eighteen point seven million. Eric,
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Speaker 2: your take on that and the whole situation with Gallen.
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Speaker 3: I mean, obviously it sucks for Gallen, But does this
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Speaker 3: mean that the whole qualifying offer is broken, that they're
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Speaker 3: going to get rid of it now in the next
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Speaker 3: CBA because one guy per off season gets screwed out
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Speaker 3: of it. Because I don't think Trent Grisham was getting
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Speaker 3: twenty two point zero five million. I don't know that
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Speaker 3: Brent big Wu was gonna get that. Could they have
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Speaker 3: gotten more over a longer term, Yeah, absolutely, but that
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Speaker 3: one year deal. This is the highest AAV and as
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Speaker 3: a player you're trying to gain that highest AAV and
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Speaker 3: push that limit for everybody else.
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Speaker 1: Just sucks for Gowan. I didn't want I didn't see.
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Speaker 3: This happening because I thought this usually happened to the
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Speaker 3: guys who were in that like fifty to sixty maybe
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Speaker 3: even seventy million dollar range, and I thought Gollen was
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Speaker 3: I thought Gowen was easily a nine figure pitcher after
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Speaker 3: what he had done throughout his first six years.
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Speaker 1: I get it, I get what he did.
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Speaker 3: You know, he is down down year in his platform year,
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Speaker 3: a little bit the year before, but I really thought
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Speaker 3: he had put together enough to say, yes, this guy
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Speaker 3: deserves one hundred plus million.
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Speaker 1: No a J what do you think? I mean? This
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Speaker 1: has kind of been the playbook for Scott Morris his
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Speaker 1: clients the last few year's Bregman, Snell, right, Chapman. They
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Speaker 1: take these one year deals and then they go back
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Speaker 1: onto the free agent market. And the best thing about
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Speaker 1: Zach Gallon is he can't get a qualifying offer. Now
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Speaker 1: we don't know where that'll stand with the new CBA, right,
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Speaker 1: but he's burned through the qualifying offer. And you know
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Speaker 1: what the best part is for Zach Gallon. He's going
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Speaker 1: back to a place he knows. He's going back to
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Speaker 1: a place he's comfortable. He had a bad start to
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Speaker 1: the year last year. Was it too much pressure, was
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Speaker 1: he trying to ard whatever it was. But he can
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Speaker 1: go into this year and say, you know what, I've
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Speaker 1: been there. I learned from it. And Zach is highly intelligent.
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Speaker 1: We've had him on here, We've talked to him a bunch.
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Speaker 1: He's super intelligent. He understands himself, he understands the business.
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Speaker 1: So he'll go back on the hell. I would bet
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Speaker 1: on him to have a great year. He'll go back
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Speaker 1: on the free agent market next year and he'll get
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Speaker 1: a deal that he wants and probably be a multi
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Speaker 1: year deal and he can maybe finish his career wherever
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Speaker 1: that team is. But I listen, if he would have
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Speaker 1: just accepted the qualifying offer, this wouldn't be a big deal.
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Speaker 1: But he thought he'd have a bigger market. He did it,
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Speaker 1: so guess what. He took the same money. I know
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Speaker 1: some of it's deferred. Whatever. He's going back to a
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Speaker 1: place he's comfortable, and I bet on him having a
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Speaker 1: good year.
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Speaker 2: Okay, So that being said, you touched on it a
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Speaker 2: little bit aj But the good news for him is
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Speaker 2: that he can return to the market next offseason. He'll
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Speaker 2: be thirty one years old without a qualifying offer, potentially
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Speaker 2: giving him a path that's you know, similar to other
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Speaker 2: Scott Boris clients who turned short term deals into lucrative
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Speaker 2: long term deals. Eric, do you see that playing out
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Speaker 2: well for him?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Hunerson, I definitely think.
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Speaker 3: You know, I'm trying to think of the guys who
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Speaker 3: stayed healthy, had decent or above average years when they
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Speaker 3: came back and you know, on that short term deal
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Speaker 3: and didn't get a nice contract.
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Speaker 1: I get it. Injuries happened.
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Speaker 3: That happens for anybody, and that's why players want that
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Speaker 3: guaranteed money up front. But if Boris and Gallon or
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Speaker 3: Boris Gallon and Gallon's you know, people talk and they say, Okay,
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Speaker 3: this is where the value is.
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Speaker 1: We in you, we believe in you.
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Speaker 3: Ultimately, it's up to Zach Gallen to say, no, you know,
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Speaker 3: I don't think this is how I want to do it.
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Speaker 3: This isn't you know, it's too much of a gamble.
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Speaker 3: But they're on the same page. It's worked out so well,
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Speaker 3: it's worked out so well for his clients, Blake Snell,
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Speaker 3: Matt Chapman, Pete Alonzo, there's one other that a Bregman.
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Speaker 3: Obviously this year like it's worked out and so you
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Speaker 3: know what, go for it. And what AJ said about
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Speaker 3: being comfortable at the place where you were. Comfort doesn't
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Speaker 3: necessarily mean oh, you know, he's complacent. That's not at
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Speaker 3: all what AJ's saying. It means he's going into spring training.
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Speaker 3: This this staff knows him, they know where he needs
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Speaker 3: to be to have success because they've seen it. This
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Speaker 3: staff hasn't I don't think they've been there the entire time,
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Speaker 3: but they've seen success. He's been in Arizona, he's been
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Speaker 3: in the division. So you know, it's easier to make
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Speaker 3: adjustments than when you're trying to go to a new
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Speaker 3: place on a one year deal and you're like, oh,
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6:09
Speaker 2: Nick Castianos. Obviously we have all seen what played out
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Speaker 2: with him a little bit of a divorce from the Phillies,
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Speaker 2: some different opinions from the clubhouse. Obviously we know what
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Speaker 2: happened with him, but what do you guys think about him,
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Speaker 2: you know, and the Padres landing him, and how the
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Speaker 2: Padres are reportedly elated to land a quote baller just
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Speaker 2: like Nick Castianos a Jake.
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Speaker 1: We hit on this the other day, didn't we. I
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Speaker 1: said the beer thing to me was not an issue.
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Speaker 1: I mean, and people were why crazy? I mean, I
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Speaker 1: don't think times have changed. But listen, man, Tricia, I'm
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Speaker 1: sure you've seen a guy probably have a drink in
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Speaker 1: the dugout once or twice when you were sideline recorder
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Speaker 1: for the ring.
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Speaker 2: Happened really never, No, I've never seen that. I Mean,
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Speaker 2: here's the thing, like I Nick is I I like Nick.
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Speaker 2: I've always had a great interaction with him. But and
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Speaker 2: I don't think the whole beer thing is like the
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Speaker 2: end of the world. But it obviously felt very disrespectful
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Speaker 2: in the moment. Like if I'm a manager and I'm
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Speaker 2: the front office and I'm his teammates watching that happen,
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Speaker 2: I'm kind of like, that's a sign of kind of
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Speaker 2: public disrespect.
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Speaker 1: So nobody knew he had it. No, it wasn't it
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Speaker 1: in a cup, it wasn't in a bottle, right, So
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Speaker 1: like it, I'm guarantee. I mean, I don't know the answer.
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Speaker 1: Maybe Kratz knows better. Did he actually have a bottle
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Speaker 1: of beer? Did he have it in a cup? And
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Speaker 1: then listen, this wasn't the reason why this all went down.
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Speaker 1: This all happened because there was a lot of other
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Speaker 1: things that led up to this. There was some things said,
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Speaker 1: we know that, there was some other things. It wasn't
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Speaker 1: just because of this beer. It was because of other
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Speaker 1: things that led up to this. So the beer was
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Speaker 1: just kind of the Okay, that's it. That was the
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Speaker 1: tipping point exactly. And Tricia, it was an easy out
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Speaker 1: for the Phillies because they can say, oh man, this guy,
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Speaker 1: can you matde? This guy drank a beer in the
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Speaker 1: dugout af he was out of the game. Again.
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Speaker 2: I'm not saying it's the end of the world, right,
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Speaker 2: I'm just saying I understand why some people were like, dude,
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Speaker 2: what are you doing?
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Speaker 1: Like stop? You know what I mean?
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Speaker 2: But you're right, it isn't easy out for them to
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Speaker 2: say that, And there were so many things that led
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Speaker 2: up to it. And everybody knows Nick Costianos and just
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Speaker 2: his personality and how he acts in a clubhouse, how
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Speaker 2: he acts towards the front office. So you're right, it
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Speaker 2: was a multitude of things, for sure, Eric, What do
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Speaker 2: you think.
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Speaker 3: I think everybody knows a bunch of people's different personalities.
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Speaker 3: AJ's personality, AJ's personality. Oh you know, if you want,
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Speaker 3: if you want a certain person out, you could say, oh,
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Speaker 3: AJ's personality, he just doesn't he just doesn't mess with
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Speaker 3: this clubhouse. Okay, but you brought him in and you
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Speaker 3: knew what he was. You knew he was somebody that
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Speaker 3: was going to tell you straight and do everything possible
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Speaker 3: for his teammates to win. You knew that with Nick Costianos.
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Speaker 3: So when you say, like a personality clash or whatever,
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Speaker 3: we're not in that room. And the beer thing was
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Speaker 3: not what ultimately killed it here. The beer thing was
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Speaker 3: just like the whole Liam hitting batting practice thing, like, like.
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Speaker 1: Was it inappropriate?
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Speaker 3: Well, it was only inappropriate if the people who were
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Speaker 3: put out by him taking batting practice were put out
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Speaker 3: or we're pissed about it. That's it. Like it like,
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Speaker 3: unless you're in that moment, unless you're there and you
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Speaker 3: know everything that has led up to it. Because Nick
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Speaker 3: said some things to Rob Thompson that shouldn't have been said,
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Speaker 3: but you also understand those things are said in the
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Speaker 3: heat of the moment. Now, if you wait a whole
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Speaker 3: day and then you come back in and you yell
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Speaker 3: at somebody again, maybe no, now we got to talk
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Speaker 3: about it. But again, there hasn't been very much written
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Speaker 3: or said about Nick Costiano says that bad until this moment,
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Speaker 3: or Rob Thompson, and so you have to piece the
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Speaker 3: whole story together and the beer thing. Sorry, people like,
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Speaker 3: it's just it is what it is. By the way,
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Speaker 3: Tristia and I don't know, I'm crats. I'm sure your
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Speaker 3: kids were around. My kids were fairly old. When I
10:05
Speaker 3: got out of playing baseball. My kid would go out
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Speaker 3: there and take BP. My kids shagged with the team.
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Speaker 3: My kid was out there all the time.
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Speaker 1: And listen if we would go out there early and hit,
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Speaker 1: and if anybody came out and was like I want
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Speaker 1: to hit, we were like, okay, pick up the balls. We're done.
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Speaker 1: Like right away, you made sure. And I can't imagine.
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Speaker 1: Nick Cassianos was like, oh, we have BP at four fifteen.
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Speaker 1: And again I don't know this, but like, hey, Liam,
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Speaker 1: let's go out there and hit at four or fourteen.
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Speaker 1: So we interrupted. Oh, I mean, I would assume he
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Speaker 1: was hitting it like two o'clock in the afternoon. If
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Speaker 1: it was a playoff game. I'm sure he was there
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Speaker 1: early to hit just I mean, I'm sure again, I remember,
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Speaker 1: I'll say this. In twenty fourteen, my last year in
10:45
Speaker 1: the playoffs, I was with the Cardinals. We're in LA, right,
10:48
Speaker 1: and we had Matt Holiday, we had me. We had
10:50
Speaker 1: a bunch of people, and all our kids were on
10:52
Speaker 1: the field, right, my kid Holidays, kids who were both
10:54
Speaker 1: first round picks. Right, one of them plays in the
10:56
Speaker 1: big leagues. Now, Joe Torrey came out and said, we
10:59
Speaker 1: can't have kids on the field during batting practice because
11:01
Speaker 1: what happens if one of them gets hurt and people
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Speaker 1: are in the stands. We're like, Joe, we had these
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Speaker 1: people on the field the entire year. Now you want
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Speaker 1: to crack down because people are wh No, but my
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Speaker 1: kids new because I told my kids stay out of
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Speaker 1: the player's way. Right, you stand in the morning track,
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Speaker 1: you make sure there's nobody around you if the balls
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Speaker 1: hit to you to catch you. They're not out there
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Speaker 1: power shagging, you know, They're they're literally out there like
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Speaker 1: hiding and just having fun. And getting to talk to people.
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Speaker 1: So I don't know the whole situation, and again that's
11:28
Speaker 1: one of the problems here. We don't know everything that
11:30
Speaker 1: went down to exactly. But I'm just going off my
11:33
Speaker 1: past experience. Guys, I know that I played with kids
11:37
Speaker 1: actually make the mood better usually around the clubhouse, because
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Speaker 1: it makes you think about something other than just the
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Speaker 1: game you're about to play.
11:55
Speaker 2: Let's talk a little bit about what's going on with
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Speaker 2: the brain saves, Right, they were dealt a little bit
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Speaker 2: of a well, we don't know yet, but they were
12:04
Speaker 2: dealt a little bit of a blow with Hurston waldrip.
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Speaker 2: He had some elbow discomfort this week and MRI showed
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Speaker 2: loose bodies, but the ligament, they said, seemed okay. He's
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Speaker 2: gonna go see doctor Meister this week, but the Braves
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Speaker 2: have not yet said how long he.
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Speaker 1: Might be out.
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Speaker 2: And guys, we know that the Braves have already had
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Speaker 2: six starting pitchers miss at least six weeks from last year,
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Speaker 2: and they've now announced two potentially huge pitching injuries. What
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Speaker 2: are your thoughts on this AJ and the news on Hurston?
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Speaker 1: No, I mean it sucks. I mean they've already lost
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Speaker 1: Schwellenbach right with the for sixty day do o. Iile
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Speaker 1: they were counting on him, and he pitched really well
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Speaker 1: for him down the stretch last year, so they were
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Speaker 1: counting on him. They are thin, thin thin. That's why
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Speaker 1: I think Bob said it. The Braves would have been
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Speaker 1: a real nice landing spot for someone like Zach Allen
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Speaker 1: that takes the ball every fifth day and pitches I mean,
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Speaker 1: Lucas Gilito maybe might be on their wish list soon.
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Speaker 1: Excuse me, but this sucks for the Braves. And I
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Speaker 1: know producer Ladies a huge bravesand so she's not happy
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Speaker 1: today either. I don't. I don't.
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Speaker 3: I don't understand how one team can continue to have
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Speaker 3: these I'm not gonna say the freak injuries and do
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Speaker 3: we have to start thinking about the Braves in the
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Speaker 3: mindset of you know, oh, are they hurting their pitchers?
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Speaker 1: I don't think so.
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Speaker 3: Something feels different about how unlucky they've gotten with their
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Speaker 3: pitchers getting injured because I don't feel like they over
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Speaker 3: they overplay these guys, don't or overpitch these guys. I
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Speaker 3: don't feel like they're like developing this new pitch. This
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Speaker 3: is an organization that has historically developed pitching, and Herston
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Speaker 3: Waldrip is one of those guys. Like would he have
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Speaker 3: been thrust into action had they not had all those injuries?
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Speaker 1: I don't think so.
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Speaker 3: But I mean anytime anytime a pitcher gets shut down,
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Speaker 3: obviously we do not know the time span, but anytime
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Speaker 3: the picture gets shut down, they take a picture of
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Speaker 3: the elbow and take a picture of the shoulder. It's
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Speaker 3: just every day they're out, it's double that time until
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Speaker 3: they just work themselves back up to be able to
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Speaker 3: throw off the mound to then be able to get
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Speaker 3: into rehabs. So that's why when you hear these guys
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Speaker 3: go down minor or major, it just becomes like, ah,
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Speaker 3: dangn Like do you see him before June? Because the
14:27
Speaker 3: Braves really need to address this issue of depth because
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Speaker 3: of what happened last year, and it's it's a tough
14:35
Speaker 3: way to build your roster if you just don't know
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Speaker 3: what's gonna happen.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, I mean I think on the positive side, though,
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Speaker 2: you look at that and you know, the MRI revealed
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Speaker 2: that the ligament in his elbow is fine, and you
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Speaker 2: like to hear that and it might be boned.
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Speaker 1: Why are you sighing? What were you saying? Because anytime
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Speaker 1: you anytime you hear Meister or Job or Andrews, that's
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Speaker 1: never good. I know they're just sitting in there as
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Speaker 1: a precaution, but I mean it's it's it's never good
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Speaker 1: when they have to send you to a doctor. We
15:08
Speaker 1: need to we need to defer to injury territory. And
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Speaker 1: Will Carroll he hits the injuries really well. In no
15:14
Speaker 1: way am I a doctor. But you're not getting bone
15:17
Speaker 1: spurs in any type of joint because everything's fine. Bone
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Speaker 1: spurs are your body's way of saying, Okay, there's something
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Speaker 1: going on here, we have to heal it. And your
15:30
Speaker 1: body ultimately is is healing up whatever's going on, but
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Speaker 1: it's healing it up in a way that causes an issue. Again.
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Speaker 3: So that's why I sighed, and exactly what AJ said,
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Speaker 3: like you don't just go to see meister, like like
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Speaker 3: Bob and AJ are going to go and eat at
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Speaker 3: Jing like you go and see meister because it's just
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Speaker 3: gonna be significant time. That's it, And that's that is
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Speaker 3: the that's the sigh for me, especially you know, for
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Speaker 3: a Florida kid. You know, from the University of Florida.
16:01
Speaker 3: We just always cheer for those guys here on foul
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Speaker 3: Territory always.
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Speaker 2: Okay, well, you said something earlier. You were like, they
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Speaker 2: need to figure out what's happening here for the Braves
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Speaker 2: with their depth and stuff like that. I feel like
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Speaker 2: we always ask that question though, when teams experience a
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Speaker 2: lot of injuries during spring training and some of them
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Speaker 2: there's just totally out of their control. I mean, I
16:23
Speaker 2: don't know if that's a fair question.
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Speaker 1: You know, listen as missus Ray as miss Ray, thank
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Speaker 1: you twenty twenty. Okay, congratulations. I mean, they had more
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Speaker 1: injuries than anything. And what have they been trying to do?
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Speaker 1: They've been trying to figure it out. Yeah, see, there
16:39
Speaker 1: you go. What is that champions of what American League compions?
16:43
Speaker 1: American League doesn't count. People say the Dodgers don't count.
16:47
Speaker 1: That doesn't count for the Rays either.
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Speaker 2: Then you are so full of nonsense.
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Speaker 1: It absolutely counts. I am full of nonsense. But teams
16:56
Speaker 1: have this. It's like weird. It's it's like certain teams
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Speaker 1: always seem to have more injuries then another team, and
17:01
Speaker 1: you think all teams are doing the same kind of stuff.
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Speaker 1: Maybe they're not. I don't know. I don't know why
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Speaker 1: the Braves seem to have more, But there's not the
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Speaker 1: same injury. It's not like it's Tommy John. It's like
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Speaker 1: a back, it's a shoulder, it's an elbow, it's a whatever, neck,
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Speaker 1: it's a thing, it's this, it's that. It's always something different,
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Speaker 1: So maybe it's just bad luck.
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Speaker 3: I also think I also think we're gonna get the
17:23
Speaker 3: buck here in a quick sec But you know, you
17:26
Speaker 3: looked at Rinaldo Lopez.
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Speaker 1: It was kind of a reclamation project. Sale. Holy crap.
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Speaker 3: I mean, nobody's ever gonna deny what they got out
17:35
Speaker 3: of Chris Sale. They traded him, they traded for him
17:38
Speaker 3: from Boston, signed them to an extension, and they went
17:41
Speaker 3: out and want a cy Young. But then the next
17:44
Speaker 3: year he was you know, he was dealing with stuff.
17:47
Speaker 3: So do they have the there's.
17:50
Speaker 1: I don't even know if there's a sure thing anymore.
17:52
Speaker 3: I mean, the guys that were making all their starts
17:54
Speaker 3: before Garrett Cole he went down last year. Corbyn Burns
17:57
Speaker 3: he went down last year, So like what that's the
18:00
Speaker 3: sure thing for the Braves and they were just up
18:03
Speaker 3: against it last year. I mean, for all those guys,
18:07
Speaker 3: and then the fact that the Braves were still losing
18:09
Speaker 3: all those guys and they were still technically kind of
18:13
Speaker 3: in it and pushing towards the end.
18:15
Speaker 1: To me, it shows how good this team.
18:16
Speaker 3: Really is, and I think people are gonna be sleeping
18:19
Speaker 3: on them in this next season.
18:21
Speaker 6: That's what he said.
18:24
Speaker 1: That's what he said.
18:25
Speaker 7: That's what he said.
18:31
Speaker 2: Oh never a dull moment with Buck Show Walter. All Right, guys,
18:34
Speaker 2: it's time to talk a little bit about we touched
18:37
Speaker 2: on it briefly, but what Bryce Harper said about Philly's
18:41
Speaker 2: president Dave Dombrowski. Let's take a listen to his comments
18:45
Speaker 2: about what Dombrowski said with the elite comment about Harper not.
18:51
Speaker 7: Really, I mean, I don't be motivated by that kind
18:54
Speaker 7: of stuff, you know.
18:54
Speaker 6: I for me, it's it was kind of wild, the
18:57
Speaker 6: whole situation of that happening.
19:00
Speaker 7: I think the big thing for me was, you know,
19:02
Speaker 7: when we first met with this organization, it was, hey,
19:06
Speaker 7: you know, we're always going to keep things in house
19:08
Speaker 7: and we expect you to do the same thing. And so,
19:10
Speaker 7: you know, when that didn't happen kind of took me
19:13
Speaker 7: for a run.
19:14
Speaker 6: A little bit. So I don't know, you know, it's
19:17
Speaker 6: a it's part of it, I guess.
19:19
Speaker 7: You know, it's kind of kind of a wild situation,
19:21
Speaker 7: you know that even happening. Obviously I didn't have to
19:23
Speaker 7: hear that I wanted. Obviously I didn't have the postseason
19:25
Speaker 7: I wanted. My numbers weren't where they where they needed
19:28
Speaker 7: to be. I know that, And uh, you know, I
19:31
Speaker 7: don't need to be motivated to be great, you know,
19:33
Speaker 7: in my career anything else. So that's just not a
19:36
Speaker 7: motivating factor for me. You know, for Dave to come
19:40
Speaker 7: out and say those things, it's kind of wild to me. Still, what.
19:45
Speaker 2: Okay, So obviously Bryce Harper was not happy with that.
19:48
Speaker 2: Now when you actually do look at the comments that
19:50
Speaker 2: Dave made, I think for Bryce, it's it's the fact
19:54
Speaker 2: that it that it, you know, left the clubhouse, is
19:57
Speaker 2: what he thinks, because he too admitted, right he said,
20:00
Speaker 2: I haven't had the best I didn't have the best season.
20:02
Speaker 2: I know my numbers aren't where they needed to be. Guys,
20:05
Speaker 2: is this a case of Bryce Harper being a little
20:07
Speaker 2: bit too sensitive because you know, it didn't really feel
20:11
Speaker 2: like Dave crossed the line too terribly bad aj, what
20:15
Speaker 2: are your thoughts.
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna let ek go on this first because he's
20:18
Speaker 1: our resident Philly homer, so I'm gonna let him answer
20:21
Speaker 1: this before I respond. So go ahead, k let me
20:24
Speaker 1: know your feelings. As the Philly fanatic fan, I freaking
20:28
Speaker 1: love it.
20:30
Speaker 3: As much as Bryce Harper says he doesn't need to
20:32
Speaker 3: be motivated. They kind of yelled at him about you know,
20:38
Speaker 3: the had a boy Harper and went out and hit
20:41
Speaker 3: two homers and every time and both times he hit
20:43
Speaker 3: the two homers, he looked at Orlando Arcia like he
20:48
Speaker 3: remembers this stuff. Does it make him a better player
20:51
Speaker 3: or worse player?
20:52
Speaker 1: I don't know.
20:53
Speaker 3: Only he knows, but I do know that he got
20:57
Speaker 3: called out like it wasn't even that big a deal.
21:01
Speaker 3: And to me, I don't think Harper actually even disagrees
21:05
Speaker 3: with what Dombrowski said. I think he just didn't like
21:09
Speaker 3: the fact that it was said in public, kind of
21:13
Speaker 3: like we talked about Byron Buxton, why didn't they stand
21:16
Speaker 3: up for me in public? Like so, I guess it's
21:19
Speaker 3: more of that, like, Hey, I'd like for you guys
21:22
Speaker 3: to say these things behind closed doors or not in
21:29
Speaker 3: the public. People don't want to. I guess people don't
21:31
Speaker 3: want to get called out. But I mean, Harper wasn't
21:34
Speaker 3: Harper wasn't as elite as he was other years. Last
21:40
Speaker 3: year stilled a really good year. But I don't think
21:42
Speaker 3: Harper's content with the season that he had. But you
21:47
Speaker 3: know what Dombrowski said it, he kind of he kind
21:51
Speaker 3: of reiterated it when he was on our show soon
21:54
Speaker 3: after the season ended. But you know, we'll see, We'll
21:58
Speaker 3: see how Bryce responds. Clearly he's not too pleased.
22:03
Speaker 1: Oh you know what, he wore the shirt that said
22:07
Speaker 1: not a lead like it's motivation. Everyone needs motivation somehow, someway.
22:11
Speaker 1: And at this point, if it's not a world series
22:13
Speaker 1: trying to win a World Series, which I know Bryce
22:15
Speaker 1: Harper wants to do more than anything, then maybe it's
22:17
Speaker 1: Dave Derombrowski saying, hey, you're not as good as you
22:19
Speaker 1: used to be. And maybe Dave Dombrowski have we thought
22:21
Speaker 1: that maybe Dave Dombrowski did this on purpose because he
22:25
Speaker 1: knew what Bryce Harper would do and how he would respond,
22:29
Speaker 1: and that he would go into the offseason and say,
22:30
Speaker 1: you know what, Dave screwed you. I'm gonna show you
22:33
Speaker 1: that I'm still lead. I'm gonna go out and having
22:34
Speaker 1: a banger of a year and win an MVP, take
22:37
Speaker 1: it away from show hey, and lead my Phillies team
22:39
Speaker 1: to the World Series. Maybe that was mab Has anyone
22:43
Speaker 1: even thought about that, because I listen what Dave Dombrowski
22:45
Speaker 1: said was, Hey, he didn't have a great year basically,
22:48
Speaker 1: and we need him to be great again. And yeah,
22:54
Speaker 1: we all know that they need to be great. They
22:57
Speaker 1: need j T to bounce back, they need Turner and
22:59
Speaker 1: continue to be good, they need Boem to continue to improve,
23:02
Speaker 1: they need Bryce to be Bryce, right, they need no
23:04
Speaker 1: lot to get better. Like there's a lot of things
23:06
Speaker 1: that but just because it's Bryce, Like, good for you, Bryce,
23:09
Speaker 1: that you're gonna use this for motivation because we all
23:11
Speaker 1: have to be motivated by something.
23:14
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, he says he's not going to use
23:15
Speaker 2: it as motivation, but you can't help but think he will.
23:20
Speaker 2: And again I kind of agree with you, guys. We're like,
23:22
Speaker 2: I don't think Dave was basically saying like, hey, this
23:26
Speaker 2: guy is elite. We need him to be himself and
23:29
Speaker 2: be elite, right, And so I don't know that I
23:32
Speaker 2: feel that he crossed any line either.
23:35
Speaker 1: I don't know.
23:36
Speaker 2: We'll see if it actually does motivate him.
23:38
Speaker 1: All right.
23:38
Speaker 2: Bryce Harper had a few more things to say this
23:42
Speaker 2: time concerning the Dodgers, how they spend their money and
23:46
Speaker 2: how they run their club. Take a listen, thanks, Yeah.
23:48
Speaker 6: No, I mean I love what the Dodgers do obviously.
23:51
Speaker 7: I mean they pay the money, they spend the money.
23:53
Speaker 7: I mean, they're a great team. They understand how to
23:54
Speaker 7: run it. They run their team like a business, and
23:56
Speaker 7: they run it the right way. They understand where they
23:58
Speaker 7: need to put their money into. But also people don't
24:00
Speaker 7: look at this either.
24:01
Speaker 6: Their draft and their development is unbelievable.
24:03
Speaker 7: Like they draft and they developed, and then they trade
24:04
Speaker 7: those guys for big name guys and they can spend
24:06
Speaker 7: their money. So it's I don't know, it bothers me
24:10
Speaker 7: when everybody talks about the Dodgers just spending money.
24:12
Speaker 6: No, they draft, they develop, they do it the right way.
24:13
Speaker 7: They understand what it takes to be the best team
24:15
Speaker 7: in baseball, and you've seen that in the last two years.
24:18
Speaker 6: They have so much depth.
24:19
Speaker 7: I mean, I think it's Will Klein, the kid's name
24:21
Speaker 7: was came in it threw six shutout in EAMs, Like
24:23
Speaker 7: I mean, he was sitting in Arizona two weeks before.
24:25
Speaker 6: Like, they have that type of dynamic on their club,
24:28
Speaker 6: and that's what you when you think about drafting, developing
24:31
Speaker 6: and things like that.
24:31
Speaker 7: That's that's why they win, and that's why when they
24:33
Speaker 7: win a lot.
24:34
Speaker 1: Of games each year.
24:35
Speaker 7: So, you know, I love what they do. I understand
24:38
Speaker 7: what they do. I understand the madness behind it. But again,
24:41
Speaker 7: like each team at baseball has an opportunity to do
24:44
Speaker 7: the same, say the same thing. Maybe not at the
24:46
Speaker 7: m RF and echelon of money, but they can draft.
24:48
Speaker 6: They can develop, they can trade, and you know, I
24:52
Speaker 6: just I don't know. I think a lot of teams
24:53
Speaker 6: can do that in baseball, and they should.
24:57
Speaker 2: So that's an interesting comment from from right Harper, guys,
25:00
Speaker 2: and I want to get your thoughts on it. Basically,
25:02
Speaker 2: he's saying he doesn't like it when people say that
25:05
Speaker 2: the Dodgers are just out there spending money, that they
25:07
Speaker 2: do a lot of other things development wise. Really well too,
25:11
Speaker 2: thoughts on that aging.
25:13
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's weird that a Boris client would come out
25:15
Speaker 1: and say I don't want a salary cab and I
25:16
Speaker 1: like teams spending money. It was weird that he Manny Machado, Boris'
25:20
Speaker 1: client did the same thing, right. I mean, these guys
25:22
Speaker 1: come out and say we don't want a salary cap.
25:23
Speaker 1: We've had Scott Boris on here. I guess what he says,
25:26
Speaker 1: we want teams to spend money. The teams to spend
25:28
Speaker 1: money helped the game, and I agree with that. So listen,
25:32
Speaker 1: this is this is you know what, Bryce has a
25:33
Speaker 1: nice contract because you know why what team Bryce is on?
25:36
Speaker 1: The Phillies And what do the Phillies do? John Middleton
25:39
Speaker 1: spends money. He tries to win. It's awesome as a player, like, oh, hey,
25:43
Speaker 1: we need Kylee warberback. Okay, we'll go give him this
25:45
Speaker 1: a contract. Oh we want JT back, we'll go get him.
25:48
Speaker 1: Oh we didn't get Boba Schetz and we'll just flip
25:50
Speaker 1: the JT. Okay, fine, we want on Aaron Nola back
25:53
Speaker 1: boom here. It is like, this is awesome. Yes, is
25:55
Speaker 1: a player, you want teams to spend money because you
25:57
Speaker 1: know what, it helps other players make money. And that's
26:00
Speaker 1: we're at the end of the day. As much as
26:01
Speaker 1: we all love baseball, ek, we did this to help
26:04
Speaker 1: support our family, not only for our life, but for
26:07
Speaker 1: our kids' lives and hopefully their kids kids.
26:10
Speaker 3: Players do want to get paid. Yes, I'm not going
26:13
Speaker 3: to deny that players want to play the best team
26:18
Speaker 3: to beat them to win the World Series. That's what
26:21
Speaker 3: I'm hearing from Manny Machado. That's what I'm hearing from
26:24
Speaker 3: Bryce Harper here. Bryce Harper didn't say, oh, he didn't
26:27
Speaker 3: list off all the contracts that they gave that the
26:30
Speaker 3: Dodgers gave. He listed off what they're doing with player development,
26:33
Speaker 3: what they're doing with the draft, how they're handling players
26:37
Speaker 3: inside the clubhouse, families, all those things. He liked what
26:42
Speaker 3: the Dodgers are doing because they're fully into wanting to win.
26:47
Speaker 3: He's not saying, oh, you know, there's a riff between
26:51
Speaker 3: me and the Phillies. I don't think the Phillies are
26:53
Speaker 3: doing it as well. No, that's not what he's saying.
26:56
Speaker 3: There was a big, you know, there's a big scuttle
26:58
Speaker 3: butt about the fact that he was sitting there trashing
27:02
Speaker 3: the Phillies. No, he's just saying that the Dodgers are
27:04
Speaker 3: doing it really well. And he was mentioning things that
27:07
Speaker 3: a lot of teams can do, they're just choosing not to.
27:11
Speaker 3: The Angels are choosing not to spend on their infrastructure.
27:14
Speaker 3: They will never get to the same spot that the
27:17
Speaker 3: Dodgers are if they don't choose to spend on their infrastructure,
27:21
Speaker 3: choose to put time and money into the development of players.
27:26
Speaker 3: That's what he was saying.
27:37
Speaker 2: All right, guys, it is time for hot corner. We're
27:41
Speaker 2: gonna start with the Red Sox and they're spending obviously,
27:44
Speaker 2: we know that they increase their twenty twenty six payroll
27:47
Speaker 2: with productions, placing them around two hundred and sixty seven million.
27:51
Speaker 2: But what are you guys seeing from the Red Sox
27:53
Speaker 2: spending so far?
27:55
Speaker 1: I need one more bat. They went on and got
27:58
Speaker 1: some nice players the free agent pitching wise, but I
28:01
Speaker 1: still think they need a bat. And wherever that bat
28:03
Speaker 1: will come from, I don't know. They You know, if
28:05
Speaker 1: people forget they traded for Sonny Gray, they traded for
28:08
Speaker 1: Wilson trus Yes, they signed Ranger Suarez, they already had Crochet.
28:13
Speaker 1: Their spending is fine. They just I think they need
28:15
Speaker 1: to go get another bat and they can really maybe
28:17
Speaker 1: try to compete with the Blue Jays and the Yankees.
28:21
Speaker 1: I think the Blue Jays.
28:22
Speaker 3: I think the Blue Jays went in to build a dynasty,
28:25
Speaker 3: and I think the Red Sox have kind of gone
28:27
Speaker 3: into hope to win this year. You talk about spending,
28:31
Speaker 3: you know, it feels like they brought in a bunch
28:33
Speaker 3: of guys on some nil deals. It's like, well, you
28:36
Speaker 3: know what, if it doesn't work out, we'll just go
28:38
Speaker 3: get the next guys. I just didn't think that the
28:41
Speaker 3: Red Sox. I thought the Red Sox were in a
28:44
Speaker 3: prime position to be able to, hey, you know what,
28:46
Speaker 3: we don't have Dever's money on the books, so we
28:50
Speaker 3: can do X y Z. Like they could go out
28:54
Speaker 3: and get Ranger, they could go out and get Sonny Gray,
28:57
Speaker 3: who's on an expiring contract. Not saying any of those
29:00
Speaker 3: guys aren't gonna do well, not saying Contreras isn't gonna
29:03
Speaker 3: do well at first, It's saying it seemed like the
29:06
Speaker 3: Red Sox were in that mode where it was like, Okay,
29:09
Speaker 3: now the Red Sox have an opportunity to strike. Now
29:12
Speaker 3: we're at the end of the off season, we're beginning
29:14
Speaker 3: of spring training, and they didn't quite replace that Bregman player.
29:19
Speaker 3: Who that player was in the offseason I don't know,
29:22
Speaker 3: because Bregman to that locker room, and we'll get to
29:25
Speaker 3: the comments from Sam Kennedy, but Bregman to that locker
29:29
Speaker 3: room could have ramifications that we just don't know how it's.
29:33
Speaker 1: Gonna go yet.
29:34
Speaker 3: And I think they I think they spent fine, it's fine.
29:37
Speaker 3: They're not spending like the Red Sox of Old who like, yeah,
29:41
Speaker 3: you know what, we're starved for another World Series Championship.
29:44
Speaker 3: We're going to go in and do it.
29:45
Speaker 1: You know.
29:46
Speaker 3: They're just like, hey, you know what, if we do good,
29:47
Speaker 3: we do good, We're gonna make a ton of money.
29:50
Speaker 2: Okay, you mentioned the Bregman quotes, so we got to
29:52
Speaker 2: talk about that because there's a couple quotes to get to.
29:55
Speaker 2: Sam Kennedy said, if Alex Bregman wanted to be here
29:59
Speaker 2: all Lee, he would be here.
30:02
Speaker 1: AJ.
30:03
Speaker 2: What's your reaction to that?
30:06
Speaker 1: Uh, well maybe then I guess he just didn't want
30:09
Speaker 1: to be there. I mean, I don't know. And that's
30:12
Speaker 1: the case. And they offered him the no trade, and
30:14
Speaker 1: they offered him everything he wanted, and maybe he got
30:17
Speaker 1: more money from the Cubby Bears, so he did work.
30:22
Speaker 1: There's a reason he didn't want to be there. They
30:24
Speaker 1: didn't give him something he didn't just be like, you
30:26
Speaker 1: know what, I had a terrible time in Boston. We
30:30
Speaker 1: made it to the playoffs. I had a great year.
30:32
Speaker 1: I just don't want to go back there because everything
30:35
Speaker 1: is equal. No, there was something that wasn't equal, that's it.
30:38
Speaker 1: But there was money, no trade whatever it was. There
30:40
Speaker 1: was something that they didn't give him that he wanted
30:42
Speaker 1: that the Cubs did.
30:44
Speaker 3: Can I say this, I'm rubber your galoo. Whatever you
30:47
Speaker 3: say bounces off of me and sticks to you. Maybe
30:51
Speaker 3: the Red Sox didn't want him to be there badly enough. Maybe,
30:55
Speaker 3: I mean, why why is this? Why does Sam Kennedy
30:58
Speaker 3: need to say that? Well, maybe he just didn't want
31:00
Speaker 3: to be there. I have a hard hard time believing
31:03
Speaker 3: he didn't want to be there. But maybe if you
31:05
Speaker 3: were not seen as a priority. And the way the
31:09
Speaker 3: players have seen his priorities are the things that Aj
31:12
Speaker 3: just said, no trade clause in your contract, because seen
31:15
Speaker 3: what the organization's done to dudes with no trade clauses, okay,
31:19
Speaker 3: or without no trade clauses.
31:21
Speaker 1: So he had to get that in there.
31:23
Speaker 3: To the fact that your value is based on how
31:26
Speaker 3: much money a team offers you you didn't quite offer enough.
31:29
Speaker 1: We've heard little.
31:31
Speaker 3: Things come out that it was like, you know, they
31:33
Speaker 3: just didn't believe that he had another offer, and then whoops,
31:37
Speaker 3: he did have another offer. Now he's not back to me.
31:40
Speaker 3: I don't think this is a Alex Bregman's mad thing.
31:44
Speaker 3: This is a maybe the Red Sox just weren't totally
31:48
Speaker 3: into completely getting it done to sign him, because if
31:51
Speaker 3: they were, they would have done a little bit extra
31:54
Speaker 3: to get him.
31:56
Speaker 2: Okay, speaking of the Red Sox, let's get to what
31:58
Speaker 2: Tom Warner said about. Obviously we know about the Raphael
32:01
Speaker 2: Devers situation with the Red Sox. He said, I don't
32:04
Speaker 2: like to speak This is from a Boston Globe article.
32:06
Speaker 2: He said, I don't like to speak ill of any player.
32:09
Speaker 2: I'd like to say that he's a wonderful person. But
32:12
Speaker 2: of course, when we had an injury at first base,
32:15
Speaker 2: his unwillingness to play that position was extremely discouraging. It
32:20
Speaker 2: was a discouraging episode. Just pick up a glove, so guys,
32:24
Speaker 2: I find it interesting. He's like, I don't want to
32:26
Speaker 2: speak ill, but uh yeah, that was not good.
32:29
Speaker 1: Pick up a glove.
32:30
Speaker 2: What do you think about that?
32:31
Speaker 1: Aj? I don't want to speak ill, but just pick
32:35
Speaker 1: up the phone and call the guy before you sign
32:37
Speaker 1: Alex Bregman, it all could have been avoided. Just pick
32:41
Speaker 1: up the phone and call it. Dude, I don't know.
32:44
Speaker 1: Have Alex Corra call him, have anybody call him, his
32:47
Speaker 1: agent call him. Heck, I don't know. Pick a guy,
32:50
Speaker 1: Pick anybody you want to pick. Pick. I don't know
32:53
Speaker 1: any ex Red Sox player. I have Kevin Mallar call
32:56
Speaker 1: him and tell him that we're signing Alex Pragman. You're
32:58
Speaker 1: not gonna be a third baseman. What he was mad?
33:00
Speaker 1: He was just mad about you, just crass. Just mentioned.
33:03
Speaker 1: Players want to feel wanted, right, Raffie Devers didn't feel
33:06
Speaker 1: like after they sign him to the long term deal
33:09
Speaker 1: that he was wanted the way that they thought he was.
33:11
Speaker 1: They hurt his feelings. He didn't want to play first base.
33:14
Speaker 1: You traded him wait to go? What did they say
33:19
Speaker 1: in the movie?
33:20
Speaker 3: I said, with all due respect, you can't just say
33:23
Speaker 3: whatever you want. Whenever you say, well, I'd like to
33:27
Speaker 3: say he's a wonderful person. But maybe this is why
33:32
Speaker 3: owners don't speak, because owners are always going to get
33:36
Speaker 3: you know, they're always going to get the raw end
33:37
Speaker 3: of the deal because they're sitting there going, well, yeah,
33:40
Speaker 3: fans think we should just spend more, spend more, spend more. Yes,
33:45
Speaker 3: you're correct, and people are going to say, well, the Dodgers,
33:47
Speaker 3: they just spend thing. They just spend all the money,
33:49
Speaker 3: and money solves everything. Communication the best organizations. You heard
33:55
Speaker 3: it so many times, it's all about communication. We had
33:58
Speaker 3: the issue with Bryce Harper communication, Costianos communication, Raffi Devers communication.
34:05
Speaker 3: You don't need to talk to aircrats when he's on
34:06
Speaker 3: your roster because you're gonna cut him at some point
34:10
Speaker 3: or he's gonna do good and you're going to keep
34:12
Speaker 3: him there. You need to talk to Raffi Devers, Bryce Harper,
34:16
Speaker 3: Nick Castianos, Mike trout Manny Machad like all those guys.
34:19
Speaker 3: Communicate with them, and your organization will run way more fluidly.
34:26
Speaker 2: I agree with you, But there must be a reason
34:28
Speaker 2: that they're not all doing that, because most of them
34:30
Speaker 2: do not do that. All right, let's get to Luis
34:33
Speaker 2: Wan Hifo. He gets three point five million guaranteed from
34:36
Speaker 2: the Brewers, per a source. He can earn another one
34:38
Speaker 2: point five million in incentives, and the deal includes a
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Speaker 2: ten million dollar mutual option for twenty twenty seven that
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Speaker 2: is from our friend Mark Finzand guys, what do you
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Speaker 2: think of this deal? In what transpired Aday?
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Speaker 1: Well, mutual options almost never get picked up, so truly
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Speaker 1: one your deal. I mean mutual options like a almost
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Speaker 1: never get picked up. So because either the player does
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Speaker 1: really well and he wants to be a free agent,
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Speaker 1: or he doesn't do that well and the team's like, yeah,
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Speaker 1: we don't really want to give you ten million, so
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Speaker 1: hit the road. So yeah, I mean to one year deal.
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Speaker 1: He helps the Brewers. He's another you know after losing
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Speaker 1: and getting rid of Durban and some of the other guys. Yeah, great,
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Speaker 1: great Brewers, Yeah, one hundred percent.
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Speaker 3: I mean he could be could he be a ten
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Speaker 3: million dollar player? Like if he plays himself into a
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Speaker 3: ten million dollar a year player like his mutual option is,
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Speaker 3: then he's not going to pick it up because you know,
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Speaker 3: there's there's definitely there's definitely upside to Luis Ronhifo. Are
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Speaker 3: the are the Brewers going.
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Speaker 1: To be able to unlock that?
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Speaker 3: Or is he going to be right a little bit
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Speaker 3: around like below the league average? Can he do the
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Speaker 3: I think it was twenty four. Yeah, twenty four. In
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Speaker 3: the first half he was he was the best version
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Speaker 3: of himself. Is he a positive war player?
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Speaker 1: Yes?
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Speaker 3: Could he be a two war player for them if
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Speaker 3: he continues to or if he continues to unlock what
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Speaker 3: he did in the first half of twenty four. It's
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Speaker 3: a lot of ifs. But they have their third baseman
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Speaker 3: now I don't have to question if it's gonna be
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Speaker 3: Jet Williams or if it's gonna be somebody moving to
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Speaker 3: or Bryce Terang moving to short and Joey Ortiz moving
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Speaker 3: to third. Like, I think they have their third basement
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Speaker 3: and they'll roll with it.