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These NBA Teams Should Make A Trade ASAP · Small Ball with Kenny Beecham

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SPEAKER_00: Is it that much of a stretch to say that everybody outside of Anthony Davis and LeBron James have failed to live up to expectation?
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SPEAKER_00: Welcome, welcome, welcome back to the Kenny Beach and podcast, y'all.
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SPEAKER_00: It feels so good to say those words.
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SPEAKER_00: I've been I've been waiting to get off an episode.
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SPEAKER_00: I hope you had a good holiday.
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SPEAKER_00: Lord knows I did.
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SPEAKER_00: Spent some time with some family.
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SPEAKER_00: The holiday season is always very hectic for us, and that's one of the reasons why I didn't put together an episode where we have Christmas here.
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SPEAKER_00: We go to my mom, my dad.
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SPEAKER_00: We go to my wife's mom, her dad, and then grandparents.
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SPEAKER_00: We go all over the place in like a two-day span.
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SPEAKER_00: So I was burnt out and I needed a little bit of a break.
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SPEAKER_00: But I mean, it was a break in the terms of filming, but I did spend the last, I don't know, 12 days or however long it's really been since last episode, really thinking about this podcast, this show, and trying to figure out what I want my voice to be here.
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SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna give you a little peek behind the curtain for the people at home.
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SPEAKER_00: I'm assuming that majority of y'all that's listening, that's watching to this podcast, are aware of the other content that I create mostly on YouTube and maybe some of the other platforms.
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SPEAKER_00: And some people have noticed that the Kenny Beach and podcast is a lot more scripted than some of the other stuff.
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SPEAKER_00: And I'm not saying that's necessarily a bad thing.
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SPEAKER_00: You gotta think about what the content really is on the Kenny Beech and podcast.
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SPEAKER_00: It is a 30 minutes to an hour of really a one-man show.
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SPEAKER_00: Hell, without a script, without some type of outline slash run a show, it would be would be awful.
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SPEAKER_00: But I also think I was a little bit too strict.
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SPEAKER_00: You know what I'm saying?
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SPEAKER_00: So over these next couple weeks and months, I will be experimenting a little bit back in the back in the day, back when the world was closed down.
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SPEAKER_00: I used to do this series on YouTube that a lot of people may remember as the NBA Rumble, where I would watch a handful of NBA games and I would go down to the basement with nothing, no script, no notes, and just talk into a microphone and a camera about the things I saw.
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SPEAKER_00: And it actually opened me up a little bit more to be a more fluid on camera and kind of thinking about the game deeper than what I saw on court and everything.
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SPEAKER_00: So I'm hoping that the Candy Beach and Podcast can be an extension of that.
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SPEAKER_00: So, yes, I do have bullet notes and some statistics and stuff.
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SPEAKER_00: I do want to say I want it to be a little bit more laid back than what we've seen for the first what six months of existence of the show.
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SPEAKER_00: When you think about taking a 12-day break, and again, I just made that number up.
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SPEAKER_00: It could have been 30 days.
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SPEAKER_00: I really don't know.
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SPEAKER_00: The algorithm is not gonna do you justice.
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SPEAKER_00: So I ain't even I ain't even looked to see what we had on the charts.
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SPEAKER_00: I'm actually afraid to look to see where we had the charts, but we back on it and we here for the content.
2:46
SPEAKER_00: I kind of wanted to talk about some teams that I'm expecting or I'm telling them that it is time to make a trade.
2:53
SPEAKER_00: Now, I think that most of the trades that will happen this season will start once the calendar year turns around.
2:58
SPEAKER_00: Um, I I would hate to be a day after Christmas and then find out that I got to move my whole family.
3:03
SPEAKER_00: So I'm assuming that when trades do start happening, it will be in January, specifically around January 15th, because again, you you know how it works.
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SPEAKER_00: Uh, most people that sign their contract uh during this offseason were eligible to be traded December 15th, and the people that signed extensions is more like January 15th.
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SPEAKER_00: Obviously, the trade deadline is a few weeks after that.
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SPEAKER_00: But there are a few teams, and listen, last year we saw 28 teams make a trade or adjustment at the trade deadline.
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SPEAKER_00: This is nothing new.
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SPEAKER_00: Most teams, close to all of the teams in all of basketball, are going to make some type of trade this deadline.
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SPEAKER_00: But I'm saying these three teams, I think, need to be doing it to a higher level.
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SPEAKER_00: Because you think about those trades that went on.
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SPEAKER_00: Some of them is like super role player for expiring contract.
3:45
SPEAKER_00: Then move the needle to either of the teams.
3:47
SPEAKER_00: You know what I'm saying?
3:48
SPEAKER_00: But these teams, the teams I'm gonna be talking about today, need to probably put it together a little bit more.
3:53
SPEAKER_00: I'm speaking of the only 28 teams making trades at the deadline.
3:56
SPEAKER_00: Do you remember what the two teams were that did it?
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SPEAKER_00: It was the Miami Heat, who, again, it turned out pretty well.
4:00
SPEAKER_00: They made a conference, I'm sorry, NBA finals push.
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SPEAKER_00: So shout out to Pat Riley.
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SPEAKER_00: A lot of Heat fans were telling me that he slept through the deadline again.
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SPEAKER_00: And then the Bulls with the second one.
4:09
SPEAKER_00: And that didn't look good for them.
4:12
SPEAKER_00: Um, and I'm I'm almost positive.
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SPEAKER_00: I'm 98% sure the Bulls are making a trade this deadline.
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SPEAKER_00: Book it.
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SPEAKER_00: Lock it, lock it in.
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SPEAKER_00: So we're gonna talk about three teams I think need to be making deals.
4:21
SPEAKER_00: And again, this is a fluid conversation.
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SPEAKER_00: You can let me know in the comment section some other teams that should be added to this list.
4:26
SPEAKER_00: I also got my favorite segment, the Ask KB, where I talk to you guys, the viewers of the channel, the listeners of the show.
4:33
SPEAKER_00: Uh, use the hashtag ask KB and send me questions, and I pick out some of my favorites to answer.
4:39
SPEAKER_00: Let's start up top with the LA Lakers.
4:41
SPEAKER_00: Um, has not been pretty for the LA Lakers outside of the end season tournament, which is such a surprise.
4:46
SPEAKER_00: This was a team that I was super excited for coming into the season.
4:49
SPEAKER_00: Obviously, the second half of the year, they were really killing the game.
4:52
SPEAKER_00: They had one of the best defenses of all time in their stretch.
4:55
SPEAKER_00: And it's like, okay, they're gonna have some continuity, something that as far as LeBron Lakers teams haven't really had from year to year, they pretty but pretty much brought back the same roster and added some pieces like Gabe Vincent, who's out for six to eight with a with an orthoscopic knee surgery or something like that.
5:10
SPEAKER_00: For the most part, they brought back the core guys that helped them go on that conference finals pus last season.
5:14
SPEAKER_00: And I thought that continuity would really improve the way they were gonna play this season.
5:19
SPEAKER_00: I have been wrong so far.
5:21
SPEAKER_00: Now, I do want to say they've dealt with a lot of injuries, but hell, a lot of teams in basketball have dealt with injuries, so I'm not using that as like this thing to save the Lakers because you think about Anthony Davis and LeBron, the two guys, the two top 10-ish guys in all the basketball, those guys have been relatively healthy this season.
5:36
SPEAKER_00: Of course, AD's missed a few, uh, LeBron has missed a few, but for the most part, these guys, their top-end dudes, have been healthy, and yet they haven't been nearly as good as they were in the second half of the season.
5:47
SPEAKER_00: The question is, why is that?
5:50
SPEAKER_00: And I was thinking about it quite a bit, and I guess you can go into some X's and no's.
5:53
SPEAKER_00: Obviously, that's not who I am as a as a uh, I don't know, creator of basketball content.
5:59
SPEAKER_00: But one thing, I was just looking at the roster, I watched their most recent game um on Christmas, and I was like, man, is it that much of a stretch to say that everybody outside of Anthony Davis and LeBron James have failed to live up to expectation?
6:14
SPEAKER_00: Now Austin Reeves has put it together after the nine-game stretch where he was starting off the bench.
6:18
SPEAKER_00: Austin Reeves has been really good.
6:19
SPEAKER_00: But as of recently, he's only been putting up, what, 20 to 26 minutes per game?
6:23
SPEAKER_00: But for the most part, let's say two and a half players, A.D.
6:26
SPEAKER_00: LeBron, and then half of Austin Reeves.
6:28
SPEAKER_00: Everybody else has been disappointing to an extent, right?
6:31
SPEAKER_00: Like Cam Radis has come in and played some phenomenal defense for them and helped them out, but he also is still a 30% three-point shooter that teams are completely leaving open.
6:39
SPEAKER_00: Uh V8, who's no longer V8, but I will always call him that because it's such a dope nickname, has been out.
6:44
SPEAKER_00: And Rui Heichi Moro, who got the extension, hasn't been as good as we saw him be in the playoffs.
6:48
SPEAKER_00: So I was thinking to my, I was talking to my Lakers guys, like, is that crazy to say?
6:52
SPEAKER_00: And you're like, Kenny, we've been saying that on Lakers Twitter for about a month or so.
6:57
SPEAKER_00: I ain't locked in on Lakers Twitter as much as I thought I was.
6:59
SPEAKER_00: But when you look at this roster, everybody outside of the top two and a half people have been relatively disappointed.
7:05
SPEAKER_00: Even D'Angelo Russell, who's some days D'Angelo Russell's really solid, and other days he's coming to the press conference saying, Hey, if I can't hit my shots, I'm not contributing.
7:15
SPEAKER_00: I've never seen a player be as candid as that.
7:17
SPEAKER_00: When I'm not hitting my shots, I'm not contributing to the team.
7:21
SPEAKER_00: And as of recently, he's not.
7:22
SPEAKER_00: He had a whole month stretch in November where he was on fire and he was like, oh, okay, he said he wanted to be Derek White.
7:27
SPEAKER_00: He's maybe not that, but at least he can shoot.
7:29
SPEAKER_00: He's no longer hitting shots.
7:30
SPEAKER_00: Rihai Chumura hasn't been very good.
7:32
SPEAKER_00: And I mean, Christian Wood, who was like a end of the deadline.
7:36
SPEAKER_00: I mean, like free agent signing is uh DMP coach decisions a lot of nights.
7:41
SPEAKER_00: So this has been a team that hasn't lived up to the expectations.
7:45
SPEAKER_00: And obviously, when you talk about the Lakers and you're talking about a LeBron James-led team, you have to think about how we can improve the the championship window.
7:54
SPEAKER_00: The man is nearly 40 years old, and though he's having a phenomenal season by himself, we can't just expect that next year's LeBron is going to play to this caliber or the year after that, LeBron is gonna play to this caliber.
8:06
SPEAKER_00: We have to take it in as it is right now and say, hey, what can we do this season?
8:11
SPEAKER_00: What can we do this season to increase our odds of winning a championship?
8:16
SPEAKER_00: You think about those odds, shout out to FanDuel Sportsbook because I have those odds right here in front of me.
8:21
SPEAKER_00: The Lakers opened up this season as a plus 700 to win the Western Conference, which is not too bad.
8:27
SPEAKER_00: You know what I'm saying?
8:27
SPEAKER_00: Not too bad.
8:28
SPEAKER_00: We think about the Denver Nuggets and how dominant they were in their finals run.
8:31
SPEAKER_00: Nobody expected anybody outside the Denver Nuggets to win the conference as far as we talk about odds.
8:36
SPEAKER_00: That 700 has now got all the way up to 1,000.
8:41
SPEAKER_00: So the team that a lot of us believed in being a contention, the team that we thought could potentially win the West, has fallen off.
8:48
SPEAKER_00: And you look at the people around them, of course, the Nuggets being the top, the Nuggets are playing phenomenal basketball as of recently.
8:53
SPEAKER_00: Shout out to the Nuggets, and that's after Michael Porter Jr.
8:55
SPEAKER_00: came onto this podcast and told us about the championship hangover that they're kind of dealing with.
8:59
SPEAKER_00: The Suns are number two, which I guess we could talk about a little bit because they haven't looked really good either.
9:03
SPEAKER_00: And oh, Bradley Beal is out for even more time.
9:05
SPEAKER_00: The Clippers are number three, and the Clippers are playing great ball specifically when Kawhi Leonard is there.
9:10
SPEAKER_00: The Wolves are fourth, which is funny because they're the top of the conference.
9:13
SPEAKER_00: But, you know, a lot of people aren't believing in the Wolves, and I understand.
9:16
SPEAKER_00: I'm not saying I'm in that boat, but I understand that, and the Lakers are number five.
9:19
SPEAKER_00: The actually surprising thing is that the Clippers opened up the season as a plus 1,000, and now them and the Lakers have kind of shifted uh this way through the season.
9:27
SPEAKER_00: So they they need to figure out the deals to flip those odds, to give them a better chance to win that championship.
9:34
SPEAKER_00: Now, there's been a lot of reporting over the last couple weeks as I feel like we're getting closer and closer to trade season.
9:38
SPEAKER_00: That's why we're doing this episode where Wolch and Shams put out different reports about what the LA Lakers are thinking about.
9:44
SPEAKER_00: Now, Shams came out a couple days ago on running back and talked about the Lakers uh being biased as always and mentioned people like DeJounte Murray.
9:53
SPEAKER_00: Now, also he mentioned that in order to make a DeJounte Murray trade happen, they'd have to give up Austin Reeves, and they're extremely, extremely hesitant to make that happen.
10:00
SPEAKER_00: So is that just conversation?
10:02
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, probably, probably, but it does tell us that maybe there's a mode of player that they're going after.
10:09
SPEAKER_00: And then right before I started filming this episode, Wolves reported that they're looking for speed and athleticism, which fits the Tate Murray mode.
10:18
SPEAKER_00: I also was thinking, like, hey, I know a guy that's pretty speedy and won a dunk contest back in the day.
10:22
SPEAKER_00: Do you want him?
10:23
SPEAKER_00: That's the problem with trying to orchestrate these LA Lakers trades, right?
10:28
SPEAKER_00: They have to try to bridge this.
10:31
SPEAKER_00: And I talked about this uh significantly when we talk about the Golden State Warriors, and one thing they failed at as an organization recently is bridging the gap between the Steph Curry era and then whatever era was coming up.
10:41
SPEAKER_00: They did really good with Jordan Poole at the end of the first round.
10:43
SPEAKER_00: Obviously, he helped them win a championship.
10:45
SPEAKER_00: And then when you think about their lottery picks, the lottery picks they had in that one draft with uh Jonathan Kaminga, Moses Moody, and James Wiseman, they missed on those.
10:54
SPEAKER_00: This current pool, by the way, for the going on a tangent, it's a ramble.
10:57
SPEAKER_00: Uh, with the Golden State Warriors, you think about Brandon Pozybsky and Trace Jackson Davis, these two dudes have impacted Warriors ball more than those three dudes from four years ago already.
11:09
SPEAKER_00: And it's only a month or two months into their NBA careers.
11:12
SPEAKER_00: But the Lakers have to figure out how to bridge the gap because again, the LeBron era will eventually end.
11:18
SPEAKER_00: I should I should have asked you to close your ears if you ain't want to hear some crazy stuff.
11:22
SPEAKER_00: But eventually, the LeBron James era of him being one of the greatest in basketball will end.
11:29
SPEAKER_00: It is inevitable.
11:30
SPEAKER_00: Will it happen when he's 50, when he's 70?
11:33
SPEAKER_00: We don't know, but it will, right?
11:35
SPEAKER_00: And they need to find a player that can maybe help them win the championship right now, compete right now, but also bridge to the era where LeBron is not your 1-8.
11:45
SPEAKER_00: Anthony Davis has been phenomenal, a DPOI candidate.
11:48
SPEAKER_00: He's been as aggressive as ever.
11:51
SPEAKER_00: There was a time in last year's season where he was consistently giving us 30s and all defensive level caliber play.
11:57
SPEAKER_00: And we're like, man, if AD can do this for an entire stretch, it's gonna be hard to beat them, and he's putting that together, but it's not very hard to beat them.
12:06
SPEAKER_00: I'm thinking about Christmas night when Andy Davis had a phenomenal game individually, and they weren't even they weren't in the game.
12:12
SPEAKER_00: I know they had a little bit of a push, but for the most part, that was a Celtics win through and through.
12:17
SPEAKER_00: So they need to figure out who that guy is.
12:18
SPEAKER_00: You're like, okay, can DeJounte Murray be that guy?
12:21
SPEAKER_00: DeJounte Murray just signed an extension, a lot of money uh for DeJounte, but it's still when you compare it to some of the other contracts across the association, like a Zach Levine, who's potentially rumored to go there.
12:29
SPEAKER_00: DeJounte Murray's contract looks significantly better.
12:32
SPEAKER_00: And we're talking about a 27-year-old guy that has been maybe a little bit worse than most people expected playing off the ball, at least worse than I expected.
12:43
SPEAKER_00: I was kind of like, hell, that's a home run trade for the for the Atlanta Hawks.
12:46
SPEAKER_00: DeJounte can play on and off.
12:48
SPEAKER_00: And though he hasn't been bad, he's still averaging 20 points per game this season.
12:51
SPEAKER_00: It just doesn't look as good as I thought.
12:54
SPEAKER_00: But he has showed that he can at least do it a little bit, 27 years old.
12:57
SPEAKER_00: Could he be the guy that helped bridge the gap?
12:59
SPEAKER_00: But also, if you're trading up Austin Reeves, is it even worth it?
13:02
SPEAKER_00: Well, you think about the bigger contract player in Zach Levine, who went on to national TV in 2020 and said, hell, I would love to play with a guy like LeBron.
13:09
SPEAKER_00: I would love to play with a defensive center like Anthony Day.
13:12
SPEAKER_00: He said that on national TV, y'all.
13:14
SPEAKER_00: That$40 million, you have to gut some of the depth that you have.
13:18
SPEAKER_00: And maybe part of you is a Laker fan like hell.
13:21
SPEAKER_00: None of those guys are performing to expectation anyway.
13:24
SPEAKER_00: So maybe I'm willing to do that right now because I've watched this team play, and there's a lot of things wrong with it, right?
13:29
SPEAKER_00: They're a team that don't get up a lot of three-point shots in 2023, 2024, and they're a team that doesn't hit a ton of it.
13:35
SPEAKER_00: If you look at LeBron James' spacing statistic, we're basically looking at how the people around him, the other four people, his spacing mates, according to um uh thinking basketball's Patreon stats.
13:47
SPEAKER_00: He's in a 19th percentile as far as spacing so far this season.
13:50
SPEAKER_00: They need some shooters, they need people that are willing and good at shooting.
13:55
SPEAKER_00: I know, I know I'm thinking too much a little bit, but can you imagine replacing the Cam Reddis corner three-point shots with a guy of Zach Levine's caliber?
14:04
SPEAKER_00: Obviously, Zach Levine's not clamping up like Cam Redis is, so there has to be some type of trade-off.
14:10
SPEAKER_00: And I don't know if I'm Rob Paninka who that player is, but you have to find someone.
14:18
SPEAKER_00: And and and the Lakers have been, at least in recent history, after the championship, uh name chasing team.
14:25
SPEAKER_00: Alright, you think about the Russell Westbrook trade, fellas, everybody in between, they didn't need to make that trade.
14:33
SPEAKER_00: I was high on it.
14:34
SPEAKER_00: I'm not gonna act like I knew it was gonna fail.
14:36
SPEAKER_00: I thought that there was a phenomenal trade in the moment.
14:39
SPEAKER_00: But we had just come off a championship like what, 16 months before that?
14:42
SPEAKER_00: We need to we need to trade Coolsman KCP for that.
14:46
SPEAKER_00: But Russell Westbrook is a name and he had just had a really good season, right?
14:52
SPEAKER_00: I don't know if that's the route that Rob Plinken wants to go again because the last time he gutted most of his depth to bring in the name slash big Hodrack, it failed.
15:02
SPEAKER_00: Now I do believe a guy like DeJounte Murray or a guy like Zach Levine fits way better with Anthony Davis and LeBron than Russell Westbrook did when you think about them as uh spacing people.
15:14
SPEAKER_00: But still, do you want to pay Zach Levine$40 million to be a third option?
15:18
SPEAKER_00: Do you want to pay DeJounte Murray next season$28.5 million to be a third option?
15:24
SPEAKER_00: I don't know the answer to that.
15:26
SPEAKER_00: Rob Lincoln might know the answer right now.
15:28
SPEAKER_00: Just waiting for the time and moment.
15:30
SPEAKER_00: But that is a team that needs to do something.
15:32
SPEAKER_00: Because as good as the Denver Nuggets are, and I've said this plenty of times in the show, as good as they are, they're not necessarily unfuck winnable.
15:42
SPEAKER_00: There's only been a few teams in the history of my lifetime where I looked at them and said, that team is unfuckwinnable.
15:49
SPEAKER_00: And that the one team that immediately comes to mind had Kevin Durant, Steph Curry, Klay Thompson in his prime, and Draymond Green in his prime.
15:59
SPEAKER_00: Every other team around that I feel as though could fall in a series.
16:05
SPEAKER_00: All you need is a little bit of luck.
16:07
SPEAKER_00: Maybe a little a lot bit of luck.
16:08
SPEAKER_00: But you see, you need some luck, some good matchups, and boom, the Western Conference is wide open.
16:14
SPEAKER_00: Speaking of that, Get Well so Aaron Gordon.
16:16
SPEAKER_00: I'm sure some of y'all may have seen the report of Aaron Gordon, I guess, got attacked by a dog, and he's got some stitches in his hands and his face, and he's gonna miss some time.
16:25
SPEAKER_00: So Get Well soon, man.
16:27
SPEAKER_00: Um, I I know people that, you know, again, I don't know the extent of what happened with Aaron Gordon, but just going on the fact that they say he had 22 stitches, it had to be pretty brutal.
16:36
SPEAKER_00: I know some people um that have gone through stuff like that with dogs, and then it's not easy to recover from.
16:42
SPEAKER_00: I mean, like physically, sure, you get stitches, you're fine, right?
16:45
SPEAKER_00: Um, but the mental aspect, I don't really trust dogs, or I guess animals in general, as much as you did beforehand.
16:51
SPEAKER_00: So again, Aaron Gordon, get well, get well soon.
16:54
SPEAKER_00: Let me know in the comment section or whatever what you think about these LA Lakers and what is the potential deal.
16:59
SPEAKER_00: Is there somebody that's not even rumored that you were like, hell, if I'm the Lakers, I'm going after that person?
17:05
SPEAKER_00: Because we also have to think about the assets that the Lakers have.
17:09
SPEAKER_00: It's not many of them.
17:10
SPEAKER_00: Especially if you're not having Austin Reeves on the table.
17:13
SPEAKER_00: So you have to think about a player that is potentially, potentially damaged goods in the eyes of trade value.
17:20
SPEAKER_00: Because you don't have a ton to get a star in in there, right?
17:24
SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna keep bringing it up, but Zach Levine is exactly that.
17:27
SPEAKER_00: But again, I'm not telling you that that's the trait you should do, but he's the mode of like a damaged goods player where Zach Levine's been out for a month and the team looks like a real basketball team, you know?
17:37
SPEAKER_00: And all the reports are saying that there's no market, so hell, we ain't even gotta give up much.
17:42
SPEAKER_00: Can we just match some salary?
17:43
SPEAKER_00: No picks?
17:44
SPEAKER_00: Maybe.
17:45
SPEAKER_00: I don't I don't really know the answer to that.
17:46
SPEAKER_00: So you tell me in the comment section.
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SPEAKER_00: Now the next team is different.
20:21
SPEAKER_00: Because I talked about the Lakers and their struggles so far.
20:24
SPEAKER_00: This team has been very, very good to start off the season.
20:27
SPEAKER_00: And that team is the Philadelphia 76ers.
20:30
SPEAKER_00: Yep, I said it.
20:31
SPEAKER_00: Philly has the MVP, the reigning MVP of the league.
20:34
SPEAKER_00: And if you ask me right now, he is the MVP of the 2023-2024 season.
20:38
SPEAKER_00: And yet, I still do believe that they should make the moves.
20:43
SPEAKER_00: Now there's a couple different ways you can look at this, right?
20:46
SPEAKER_00: Some people saw the James Harden trade and say, yo, they got three expiring contracts all within 10 million to 15 million.
20:51
SPEAKER_00: Boom, that's 40-ish million dollars.
20:53
SPEAKER_00: They could pack together.
20:54
SPEAKER_00: They also got some first round draft capital.
20:56
SPEAKER_00: They're gonna be buyers, buyers, buyers.
20:57
SPEAKER_00: And then the team started to play.
20:59
SPEAKER_00: You're like, hold on, wait a minute.
21:01
SPEAKER_00: Maybe don't necessarily need to be buyers because Maxi is a starting himself.
21:04
SPEAKER_00: Joel Embiid is having a better individual season than we've ever seen before.
21:08
SPEAKER_00: Maybe we can stand pat, look at the salary cap that we could potentially have, the cap space we could potentially have this offseason, and just chill.
21:23
SPEAKER_00: Same thing I mentioned with the LA Lakers.
21:25
SPEAKER_00: When I talk about it being open.
21:28
SPEAKER_00: Now, in the last episode, I mentioned that the Celtics are they're close to that unfuck withable I'm talking about, but they also don't have the depth as some of those other teams.
21:37
SPEAKER_00: And if if I don't know, let's say if Porzingis goes down with an injury, I'm not saying it's raps, it's significantly harder to win a championship without Porzingis.
21:46
SPEAKER_00: You you get what I'm saying?
21:48
SPEAKER_00: Where um that could be an opening space for the 76ers, and with Joel and B playing the way he is, and granted, I know the history of Joel and B come playoff time, high leverage situations, that's what we're missing for Joel and B as far.
22:00
SPEAKER_00: As we're talking about, how good he ranks on the all-time centers list or whatever, whatever.
22:04
SPEAKER_00: He needs some high-leverage wins.
22:05
SPEAKER_00: He needs some some playoff success and potentially a ring or whatever.
22:10
SPEAKER_00: But they could still potentially do it.
22:12
SPEAKER_00: This free agency class, it's not that great.
22:15
SPEAKER_00: Call it Spain the Spain.
22:16
SPEAKER_00: It's not that great of a free agency class.
22:17
SPEAKER_00: We got people like Pascal Siakam, DeMar DeRozan, OG Ananobi, Klay Thompson.
22:22
SPEAKER_00: Good players.
22:24
SPEAKER_00: But not great players.
22:26
SPEAKER_00: Well, no, no, that's disrespectful.
22:27
SPEAKER_00: That's disrespectful.
22:28
SPEAKER_00: I would argue that Pascal Siakam is a great player.
22:30
SPEAKER_00: I would argue that DeMar DeRozan is a great player.
22:33
SPEAKER_00: Um I'll end it right there.
22:37
SPEAKER_00: 2023 Klay.
22:38
SPEAKER_00: Last month, Klay has been really good.
22:40
SPEAKER_00: Don't look at Christmas.
22:41
SPEAKER_00: Last month, Klay has been averaging 20 plus points to shoot a 40% three again.
22:44
SPEAKER_00: Don't sleep.
22:45
SPEAKER_00: They were winning games too.
22:46
SPEAKER_00: But the free agency class in itself is not great.
22:49
SPEAKER_00: Not great enough to think that it's going to be a superstar player available potentially through free agency.
22:54
SPEAKER_00: But also, you can get free agency without thinking about free agency.
22:58
SPEAKER_00: Kenny, what do you mean by that?
23:00
SPEAKER_00: We've seen a lot of players go into the front office in the offseason and say, hey, I want out.
23:06
SPEAKER_00: And now, though this player is not actively on the market, they're actively on the market, right?
23:12
SPEAKER_00: And I know it's hard to predict.
23:14
SPEAKER_00: We don't really know who the people are going to be.
23:16
SPEAKER_00: We've seen out of nowhere players request a trade or so on and so forth.
23:20
SPEAKER_00: And I'm I'm assuming that's the direction that Darrell Mori and Company are thinking about.
23:24
SPEAKER_00: It's like, hey, we don't know who the next superstar player is going to be available.
23:28
SPEAKER_00: Who is that going to be?
23:29
SPEAKER_00: But we're going to try to stockpile our assets so we could be in the conversation.
23:32
SPEAKER_00: The disappointed part is that their assets aren't very great.
23:36
SPEAKER_00: You got the expired contracts to make some money work.
23:38
SPEAKER_00: You got a couple first-round picks.
23:40
SPEAKER_00: Whoop, whoop-de-doo.
23:41
SPEAKER_00: There's some other teams.
23:42
SPEAKER_00: Hypothetically, the next superstar player goes on the trade market.
23:45
SPEAKER_00: You know who has way better assets that have been just prowling the market for a star?
23:50
SPEAKER_00: The New York Knicks.
23:51
SPEAKER_00: You're taking the Knicks straight packs, you're taking three expired contracts or two first-round picks from the 76ers.
23:56
SPEAKER_00: Like, you know what I'm saying?
23:57
SPEAKER_00: You're not, once the superstar becomes available, I'm just saying, based on what I know, I don't know if the 76ers are really going to have a chance without giving up the players that you really care about.
24:07
SPEAKER_00: And at this point in time, it's only two of them boys.
24:09
SPEAKER_00: It's only two of the boys that you look at and say untouchable at this moment in time.
24:13
SPEAKER_00: So I just don't know what that superstar is going to come at.
24:17
SPEAKER_00: So with the market being what the market is, and parody being the association, ladies and gentlemen, Mook, uh uh, get your bags packing.
24:26
SPEAKER_00: Nicholas Batum, you too.
24:28
SPEAKER_00: Roko, we love you.
24:30
SPEAKER_00: Welcome back.
24:31
SPEAKER_00: I'm sorry, I hope you ain't by no house because you might be out the dump.
24:36
SPEAKER_00: Understand flexibility.
24:37
SPEAKER_00: I just don't know what the next star is.
24:39
SPEAKER_00: And I kind of want to go through the teams.
24:41
SPEAKER_00: And you you tell me, even though I know I can't hear you right now, um, you tell me if you think there's gonna be a star player from these teams becoming available in the next uh, let's say eight months.
24:51
SPEAKER_00: Uh yeah, eight months, eight months or so, right?
24:54
SPEAKER_00: We have the Celtics.
24:55
SPEAKER_00: You know them boys are safe, regardless if they are successful winning the ring or not.
24:58
SPEAKER_00: They're the Jays are not getting broken up, and if they are, it's not for two first-round picks and Robert Coverton.
25:03
SPEAKER_00: It's um it's gonna it's not gonna be the Bucks, the Magic, the Heat, the Knicks, the Wolves, the Nuggets, the Thunder, the Mavs.
25:10
SPEAKER_00: If if Luca, for whatever reason, because the Mavs are playing good basketball, for whatever reason, request out, you don't have the package to make it happen.
25:16
SPEAKER_00: So the Mavs, the Kings, you're not getting any of those players.
25:19
SPEAKER_00: The only people that, again, and I'm saying this is a small percentage, because we can't, we don't do a good job of predicting the next starter one out.
25:26
SPEAKER_00: Donovan Mitchell.
25:28
SPEAKER_00: Everybody's talking about that one already.
25:29
SPEAKER_00: Mikhail Bridges, maybe he's available eventually.
25:32
SPEAKER_00: Kawhi, Paul George, both have yet to sign an extension.
25:35
SPEAKER_00: Again, we're talking about percentages, like 2% chance.
25:38
SPEAKER_00: Zion, Brandon Ingram, Devin Booker.
25:42
SPEAKER_00: Devin Booker's not happening.
25:44
SPEAKER_00: The only reason I bring up Devin Booker is because there is uh obviously the reports about maybe Kevin O'Reilly being frustrated.
25:50
SPEAKER_00: He went on to Instagram and said that that's cap.
25:53
SPEAKER_00: Um, but I don't even know why I added it to my notes.
25:56
SPEAKER_00: This is why I shouldn't be taking notes.
25:57
SPEAKER_00: Why is Devin Booker?
25:58
SPEAKER_00: He's not anyway.
25:59
SPEAKER_00: So maybe though some of those other guys become available, but again, it's a it's kind of like a pipe dream at this point.
26:05
SPEAKER_00: So let's get in on some other players.
26:08
SPEAKER_00: Who is that player?
26:09
SPEAKER_00: Kenny, I've been very adamant about the Zach Levine Tyrese Maxie thing being something I do not want from a 76ers perspective.
26:17
SPEAKER_00: I just think it takes away who Tyrese Maxie has developed into and kind of relegates him a little bit more to be a lower usage player, which is inevitable, right?
26:25
SPEAKER_00: Whoever they trade for, his usage will drop a little bit.
26:27
SPEAKER_00: But because of the way Zach has played historically throughout his career, I think it takes away a little bit too much from Tyrese Maxie.
26:33
SPEAKER_00: Hell, maybe Zach Levin goes to his next team and he's able to transition to playing more of a backup role, whatever, whatever.
26:38
SPEAKER_00: But still, I don't like that pairing.
26:41
SPEAKER_00: I'm just going on who's on the market, a potenti potentially.
26:44
SPEAKER_00: Does Jonte Murray fit?
26:46
SPEAKER_00: I don't hate it.
26:47
SPEAKER_00: I don't love it.
26:49
SPEAKER_00: I don't hate it.
26:51
SPEAKER_00: Uh the Larry Market thing.
26:52
SPEAKER_00: Larry Market is one of those players that I want to plop on so many contending teams and say he's the missing piece.
26:58
SPEAKER_00: A guy that can create for himself is a quick decision maker in a sense that whether he's spotting up or not, he's gonna know what he wants to do with that ball.
27:08
SPEAKER_00: I feel like that was one of the things I didn't see much when Larry was here in Chicago where it felt as though he was a little bit slow to make that decision, but now he's progressed as a player.
27:16
SPEAKER_00: He's an all-star at this point.
27:18
SPEAKER_00: And again, he's potentially on the market.
27:20
SPEAKER_00: Kevin O'Connor said that it might take five first-round picks, though.
27:23
SPEAKER_00: So you're out of the running there.
27:25
SPEAKER_00: I don't also don't think it has to be a superstar.
27:28
SPEAKER_00: Maybe it's a guy that comes in and just levels you up significantly, like it's a small amount.
27:33
SPEAKER_00: He ain't got to be an all-star, just levels you up a little bit.
27:35
SPEAKER_00: Because sometimes I watch this team play and I think about the load that it that Joel LeBean and Tyrese Maxier are carrying, and I look at the rest of the team, and though Toby has had his games here and there, or Kelly Ubre as a starter, there was a crazy stat about his game.
27:51
SPEAKER_00: I think he's only lost two games this season as a starter, as part of the 76.
27:54
SPEAKER_00: Now, granted, he did miss a bunch of time after the car incident, but they are missing that three guy.
28:00
SPEAKER_00: Another guy that could come in and score and provide some secondary playmaking outside of Tyrese Maxie, or I guess tertiary playmaking behind Tyrese Maxie and Joel and B.
28:11
SPEAKER_00: Again, I don't know who that player is.
28:12
SPEAKER_00: And Darren Mori is the type of person, from my experience of watching him as a general manager.
28:19
SPEAKER_00: He ain't hanging up the phones.
28:21
SPEAKER_00: Actually, he's the one picking him up, just probing a little bit, trying to see who's available for this and that.
28:26
SPEAKER_00: And I'm not, I don't know his psyche.
28:29
SPEAKER_00: I don't know if he will make a trade or try to make a trade too much, but as a guy that's been watching this team pretty extensively over the past month and a half, I feel like they could use just a little bit more help.
28:40
SPEAKER_00: Um, speaking of Jordan B in the 76ers, can I I'm just gonna go on a tangent about the dominance that is Jroll and B.
28:46
SPEAKER_00: Because obviously I saw him dominate the regular season last year as well.
28:52
SPEAKER_00: You know, I had to say regular season.
28:54
SPEAKER_00: Um and he was my MVP, right?
28:56
SPEAKER_00: He was my MVP.
28:57
SPEAKER_00: I never thought twice about it.
28:58
SPEAKER_00: Um I mean it fluctuated a bunch throughout the season.
29:01
SPEAKER_00: Sometimes it was Jokic, sometimes Jolin B.
29:02
SPEAKER_00: And once it was all said and done, and all 32 teams have played 82 games, he was the guy that I believed had the best individual season come regular season, right?
29:11
SPEAKER_00: And uh after what happened in the playoffs, I went on to my other podcast, um Rest in peace.
29:17
SPEAKER_00: Uh no, it's not there.
29:19
SPEAKER_00: I don't even know why I'm making those jokes.
29:21
SPEAKER_00: Um said because of his flame out in the playoffs again, where Tatum had that boy on an island in the game seven and gave him 50.
29:31
SPEAKER_00: I don't think that the voters will give him the respect of giving him another regular season MVP because we see the conversations around a player like Joel LeBee say, hey, we know you're a phenomenal player in the regular season, but legends are made after April.
29:49
SPEAKER_00: And yet, here we are, two months into the season, and he's the MVP right now.
29:55
SPEAKER_00: I'm not consensus, but close to it.
29:59
SPEAKER_00: And I'm just surprised to see that.
30:01
SPEAKER_00: And I think that's a testament to how good he really has been.
30:04
SPEAKER_00: If he was doing the exact same thing this year as last year, I don't think he would be the MVP front runner.
30:10
SPEAKER_00: But he took the season, regular season, that he built last year and said, give me two more.
30:19
SPEAKER_00: What's a LeBron James mean when he's talking about A and R and the Two Chains album?
30:23
SPEAKER_00: Two more, talking about the deluxe.
30:25
SPEAKER_00: Uh I need more of that.
30:26
SPEAKER_00: And he did.
30:28
SPEAKER_00: James Harden out the dough.
30:29
SPEAKER_00: I've been practicing my playmaking.
30:32
SPEAKER_00: I am a positive, and he was already a decent playmaker.
30:35
SPEAKER_00: I am a positive playmaker.
30:37
SPEAKER_00: You cannot ignore me.
30:40
SPEAKER_00: I this is and I know everybody's gonna say Al Horford because of Al Horford has notoriously been known as the Joel and B stopper.
30:48
SPEAKER_00: Um which numbers are numbers, right?
30:51
SPEAKER_00: So far this season, nobody has been able to stop this man.
30:57
SPEAKER_00: Granted, there's been some games where he did not suit up, and I was waiting for him to suit up.
31:05
SPEAKER_00: I wanted to see him versus Bam.
31:06
SPEAKER_00: You know, you know what I'm saying?
31:08
SPEAKER_00: But when he went against the Minnesota Tim Wolves about a week or so ago, a little bit before Christmas, and he went at the the current DPOY and Rudy Gobert and gave I don't even remember what the number was.
31:24
SPEAKER_00: Just say he gave them the work.
31:28
SPEAKER_00: That was one of that might have been my second favorite Jordan Bede performance in the last year and a half, two years.
31:37
SPEAKER_00: Not just because of the counting stats, because he what he went into against the number one defense in all the basketball that has, again, the Rudy Gobert is almost a consensus DPOY so far this season and say, you can't stop me.
31:51
SPEAKER_00: Right?
31:52
SPEAKER_00: I know a lot of people are gonna look at the foul drawing, the the grift thing, whatever you want to call it, and say, hell Kenny, he's doing this for the fouls, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.
32:01
SPEAKER_00: And everybody's tied it to their own opinion, and I respect yours.
32:05
SPEAKER_00: I have looked past that.
32:07
SPEAKER_00: Because even if you get rid of every single free throw that Joel Embiid has shot this season, and you get rid of every single free throw that every player has shot this season, there's no free throws.
32:19
SPEAKER_00: What do you think Joel Embiid ranks as far as points per game?
32:22
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
32:24
SPEAKER_00: He's still number one.
32:26
SPEAKER_00: If you get rid of every single free throw that he shot specifically against the Timberwolves in that game, he still had 36.
32:35
SPEAKER_00: Again, I understand it not being everybody's cup of tea.
32:38
SPEAKER_00: Hell, go watch videos of mine from two years ago, three years ago.
32:42
SPEAKER_00: I was very adamant about it.
32:44
SPEAKER_00: I respect Joel Lebede's game, but hell, it's a tough watch.
32:49
SPEAKER_00: I don't really feel that way anymore.
32:51
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, their games end up being 30 minutes longer than everybody else's, it feels like.
32:57
SPEAKER_00: But I don't feel that way anymore.
33:00
SPEAKER_00: I think it's more of a testament to Joel Embiid, more to the officiating than Joel Embiid.
33:05
SPEAKER_00: Because Joel Embiid's not the only person that does this.
33:08
SPEAKER_00: He's just a guy that probably is he's number one at that at the moment.
33:11
SPEAKER_00: But he's not the only one.
33:12
SPEAKER_00: It's happening all across the association, from superstar to role players.
33:16
SPEAKER_00: He's just a guy with one of the highest uses in the league and is a big body, you can guard me guy.
33:21
SPEAKER_00: So yes, he plays it a little bit more.
33:23
SPEAKER_00: We just watched Nikola Jokic do it.
33:24
SPEAKER_00: Now, Jokic has one of the worst whistles in all the basketball.
33:27
SPEAKER_00: I honestly do believe that.
33:28
SPEAKER_00: He has one of the worst whistles in all the basketball.
33:29
SPEAKER_00: On Christmas, he had the best whistle I've ever seen.
33:33
SPEAKER_00: And he played into it.
33:35
SPEAKER_00: As he should.
33:37
SPEAKER_00: Because at this point in time, though you count his stats matter, these boys are out here trying to win basketball games.
33:44
SPEAKER_00: And Jordan Beat is a player that we've talked about mostly through the last, let's say, uh less of the last two years, but before that, his conditioning, he's out of shape, he do this.
33:55
SPEAKER_00: You know, when you get a little bit of a rest at that foul line, it ain't no coincidence.
34:01
SPEAKER_00: You know, the numbers that the things that these this guy's doing in a lot of times it's three quarters, is otherworldly.
34:08
SPEAKER_00: And I had to sit back and think about is he the best scoring big I have ever seen on my own two eyes?
34:15
SPEAKER_00: Now, a lot of people are gonna say uh Hakeem and all of these person.
34:18
SPEAKER_00: I I have I didn't see Hakeem play basketball on my own two eyes.
34:21
SPEAKER_00: Now I saw the dominance of Shaquille O'Neal.
34:24
SPEAKER_00: Yep.
34:25
SPEAKER_00: So it's hard, it's hard to go against that fella.
34:27
SPEAKER_00: But when I talk, when I think about just pure scoring at the five-man position, it's not many people that's comparing.
34:34
SPEAKER_00: You had a couple seasons.
34:35
SPEAKER_00: Again, I'm just talking about the ways in which they score.
34:37
SPEAKER_00: We talk all three levels and being an engine and hub of an offense at this point.
34:42
SPEAKER_00: I think a little bit about I'm gonna discredit myself a little bit by saying this, but I don't even care.
34:47
SPEAKER_00: I think a little bit about um Boogie.
34:50
SPEAKER_00: Now, Boogie was never able to help his team make a playoff appearance, so it's uh it's falling on deaf ears for a lot of people, and I understand that.
34:58
SPEAKER_00: But Jorel Embiid in itself, he might be, and I might do an episode about this in the offseason because I think it's just too much basketball going around for me to go into a big deep research thing.
35:08
SPEAKER_00: But just off the top of my mind, as far as in my lifetime, as far as the people I have watched play this game, and again, for the people at home, I started watching in 2002.
35:16
SPEAKER_00: I was six years old there, but I that's when I started watching.
35:19
SPEAKER_00: Joel Lambi is a top 10 scorer I've ever watched play basketball.
35:23
SPEAKER_00: He's top 10 at this point.
35:25
SPEAKER_00: And again, I haven't dug dug completely into it, but that's what it feels like.
35:30
SPEAKER_00: Again, I understand that he does grift for his fouls and he does shoot a lot of free throws, but in the grand scheme of the league, the grand scheme of the 76ers, they they they take free throws, but it's not like crazy different than any other team.
35:46
SPEAKER_00: He just so happened to be the guy that's taking the most of them for his team.
35:50
SPEAKER_00: And he's become so good of an offensive player, and I know it's a lot of Joel and B, but hell, this is a ramble.
35:57
SPEAKER_00: I told you that.
35:59
SPEAKER_00: Joel and B has become so good of an offensive player that the fact that this man is playing all defensive level defense is just not even mentioned ever.
36:09
SPEAKER_00: Ever.
36:10
SPEAKER_00: Based on what I have seen so far this season, he has been one of the five most impactful centers in basketball.
36:18
SPEAKER_00: But when you're going battle centers, he might be three.
36:21
SPEAKER_00: I'm thinking Rudy Gobert.
36:24
SPEAKER_00: I'm thinking Anthony Davis, I'm thinking Bale Motabaio.
36:28
SPEAKER_00: This is gonna be it's gonna be really crazy.
36:30
SPEAKER_00: And Nick Claxon, I gotta give you my respect, but you just missed a little bit too much for me.
36:35
SPEAKER_00: I also think about Chet.
36:37
SPEAKER_00: Jordan Bead is in that conversation.
36:39
SPEAKER_00: He might be higher than Chet.
36:41
SPEAKER_00: Actually, I will say he's higher than Chet, but he's he's in the top five amongst defensive centers in basketball or simultaneously leading the league in all of scoring.
36:51
SPEAKER_00: This man can benefit so much from one real playoff push, one championship, one finals up here.
37:00
SPEAKER_00: Hell, get out of the second round.
37:02
SPEAKER_00: I I just don't I he's so damn good.
37:07
SPEAKER_00: But obviously, he's got this big chunk of missing games and in high-lever situations.
37:15
SPEAKER_00: And even on the game-by-game basis, when you talk about playing in the clutch, can use some dramatic improvement there.
37:21
SPEAKER_00: I've watched their clutch games this year.
37:23
SPEAKER_00: I watched one here in Chicago.
37:24
SPEAKER_00: Ball slipped out of Jordan B's hands.
37:26
SPEAKER_00: Not great.
37:28
SPEAKER_00: So he's not the perfect player, but he is a guy out of all of the people in basketball, who can benefit the most from a singular ring?
37:37
SPEAKER_00: It's that man.
37:39
SPEAKER_00: Because I don't even know the conversations you're gonna have.
37:41
SPEAKER_00: Him and Jokic will be, if again, hypothetically, if he wins this championship this year and he does win MVP, because again, he's the front runner right now.
37:48
SPEAKER_00: Two two champions two rings in the championship.
37:51
SPEAKER_00: I'm sorry, two MVPs in the championship?
37:53
SPEAKER_00: Will he be the he would be the 14th player of all time to ever do that?
37:56
SPEAKER_00: Like, come on, man, the conversation would be crazy.
37:58
SPEAKER_00: But again, I'm living in this hypothetical world.
38:00
SPEAKER_00: I know most of y'all are like Kenny cut it.
38:02
SPEAKER_00: He ain't do he don't do nothing after April.
38:05
SPEAKER_00: I I I can't say that he ever will.
38:07
SPEAKER_00: But I'm enjoying watching him play on a day-by-day basis because he is as dominant as I have seen from the five men on, I guess on both sides of the four, really.
38:16
SPEAKER_00: Now, before we go to talk about the third and final team that should be making the trade, it's time for my favorite segment, hashtag AskKB.
38:22
SPEAKER_00: And every episode I'll be thinking, maybe do we need some music, a theme song, or something?
38:26
SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
38:27
SPEAKER_00: The first one comes from Sammy.
38:30
SPEAKER_00: That's Houston Sammy.
38:31
SPEAKER_00: That's what your name is gonna be to me.
38:33
SPEAKER_00: Because why anyway, how would you approach this Jalen Green situation coming into his contract year?
38:39
SPEAKER_00: What is your opinion on all the drama between the fans and Jalen Green product on the court?
38:43
SPEAKER_00: Now, I cannot say I am in tune to Rocket's Twitter as much to know what the drama is.
38:49
SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna assume that maybe the drama has to do with him not playing very well and then being upset about it.
38:55
SPEAKER_00: Um, as I'm recording this, I just checked the box score against the Phoenix Suns.
38:58
SPEAKER_00: They were down by 12 points, but he had 20 points, so that's good stuff.
39:02
SPEAKER_00: Um, because there's been a few times this season, and mostly recently, where the Houston Rockets' objective is to win basketball games, right?
39:09
SPEAKER_00: We've seen the shift from the Houston Rockets where they went from a team that was maybe not actively trying to be bad.
39:14
SPEAKER_00: Actually, let's say that.
39:15
SPEAKER_00: They were actively trying to get bad, and that's how you end up with Jalen Green as a lottery pick and Jabari Smith Jr.
39:20
SPEAKER_00: as a lottery pick and and Amin Thompson as a lottery pick.
39:23
SPEAKER_00: But now with them not owning their own first-round pick, they went out to get some bets and they're actively trying to be good.
39:28
SPEAKER_00: And if there is a player, whether he's a player you've invested into a lot or not, if he's not helping you win basketball games, sit your ass down.
39:36
SPEAKER_00: And we've seen a lot of moments where Jalen Green has had to sit down.
39:40
SPEAKER_00: Um the game recently, oh man, who was it against?
39:43
SPEAKER_00: I just re-watched it.
39:44
SPEAKER_00: It was against the Indiana Pacers.
39:46
SPEAKER_00: And um Jalen Green played, what, 19 total minutes in this one?
39:50
SPEAKER_00: He was pretty dreadful.
39:51
SPEAKER_00: And again, I'm I haven't watched this game, but he had 20 points as I went to uh transition to the segment, so maybe it's looking a little bit better.
39:59
SPEAKER_00: He is a guy that I've historically said, if you ask me about Jalen Green, I will tell you I have no opinion because I can't really gauge who he is as a player.
40:08
SPEAKER_00: And I think I have a pretty decent, like kind of track record.
40:13
SPEAKER_00: Not saying I can understand the ceilings of players, because again, my one of my favorite players in the league is Shagus Alexander from the first moment he was in the league or his summer league games, and I didn't think he was gonna be a superstar, but I can typically gauge if this player is gonna be really good or not, right?
40:27
SPEAKER_00: I have no idea what Jalen Green.
40:29
SPEAKER_00: Um when Michael Porter Jr.
40:31
SPEAKER_00: was on the show, he mentioned something that I've been thinking about a lot since the moment.
40:34
SPEAKER_00: We asked him about the memes, and now re-watching that, I can kind of tell he's kind of frustrated with that moment in the interview.
40:40
SPEAKER_00: I talked about him uh being known across social media as a guy that doesn't swing one more passes, a yada yada yada.
40:46
SPEAKER_00: But one thing he did mention was that he's a play finisher and not a playmaker.
40:50
SPEAKER_00: Okay, pretty pretty interesting concept.
40:52
SPEAKER_00: And when you look at him, obviously he is that.
40:55
SPEAKER_00: And sometimes I look at Jalen Green and say that he is an inefficient play finisher.
40:59
SPEAKER_00: Now, granted, we're talking about a kid that's not even 22 years old to shed, so I'm not saying that he's gotta be given up on by the Houston Rockets or that he can't blossom into somebody that they expect him to be, but it is tough to really win your minutes on a team that's trying to be competitive when your role is a play finisher and you're not finishing plays.
41:18
SPEAKER_00: Where he's not the Michael Porter Jr.
41:20
SPEAKER_00: type play finisher, right?
41:21
SPEAKER_00: He is a guy that will make an extra pass or will play make a little bit, but for the most part, when you think about Jalen Green's game, it's heavily I'm gonna get myself a bucket, which can be fine.
41:33
SPEAKER_00: We know a lot of players that are great in this league that are I'm gonna get myself a bucket guy.
41:38
SPEAKER_00: But they also are maybe a little bit more dynamic than Jalen Green.
41:42
SPEAKER_00: Again, we're talking about a guy that's not 22, but but it's but this is a guy like like Sam mentioned, is up for a contract relatively soon.
41:49
SPEAKER_00: So what do you do you pay him?
41:51
SPEAKER_00: Do you pay him based on his production so far in his NBA career, or you pay him based on the player that you think he could be?
41:58
SPEAKER_00: The best thing that happened to the Houston Rockets is like Tari East and Alprin Shangun looking way better than what they should given their draft spot.
42:06
SPEAKER_00: Because Jalen Green is a guy, though you think about who the Houston Rockets are, his success a matters a ton.
42:15
SPEAKER_00: It just really does.
42:16
SPEAKER_00: You think about the years of not being so great, was it four straight years towards the top of the lottery or three straight years towards the top of the lottery?
42:22
SPEAKER_00: He is their prize jewel.
42:23
SPEAKER_00: He is their highest drafted guy.
42:26
SPEAKER_00: And yet, if you are hierarchying or ranking the players and their significance on the team so far this season, he don't look like that.
42:34
SPEAKER_00: I've watched all of his minutes versus the Indiana Pacers and all of his minutes versus man his previous game.
42:41
SPEAKER_00: And maybe it's just two games where I picked the wrong ones, right?
42:45
SPEAKER_00: And when I say all of his minutes, I don't mean that I was just watching the Rockets.
42:48
SPEAKER_00: My eyes are glued onto Jalen specifically, and there are just a lot of moments offensively and defensively where I was less than impressed.
43:01
SPEAKER_00: Uh synergy is an uh a thing that you can buy.
43:04
SPEAKER_00: It's hell expensive.
43:05
SPEAKER_00: I actually don't recommend it to anybody.
43:07
SPEAKER_00: It's$50 a month, but I use it uh as a place to kind of look at some NBA statistics and stuff.
43:12
SPEAKER_00: And they have this one thing where you kind of look at every single player's play type, right?
43:16
SPEAKER_00: We're talking about catch-a-shoot, off-the-dribble pull-ups, we're talking about floaters, dunks, any type of shot you can imagine.
43:24
SPEAKER_00: They have it in the statistic for.
43:26
SPEAKER_00: What is his points per possession when he takes that?
43:28
SPEAKER_00: What percentile is he in?
43:30
SPEAKER_00: Is he excellent at it?
43:31
SPEAKER_00: Is he well below average?
43:33
SPEAKER_00: And if you look at everything for Jalen Green this season, it is below average, except for him as a cutter, which is something that I wrote in my notes when I watched him.
43:42
SPEAKER_00: When he cuts and they find him, he is an elite level finisher.
43:45
SPEAKER_00: The problem is, doesn't cut nearly as much as you probably want him to.
43:49
SPEAKER_00: And maybe that's a little bit of him, maybe that's a little bit of coaching, but he doesn't cut as nearly as much as you want him to.
43:54
SPEAKER_00: And there are times where he gets missed on the cut.
43:56
SPEAKER_00: This is a team that doesn't necessarily need any fishing.
44:00
SPEAKER_00: Play finisher, but but need somebody as a secondary playmaker.
44:04
SPEAKER_00: Freddy's doing that to the highest degree.
44:06
SPEAKER_00: He has one of the best assisted turnover ratios in all the basketball.
44:09
SPEAKER_00: Alprin Sh'Goon has like this idea.
44:12
SPEAKER_00: The idea of Alprin Shangoon as a playmaker is maybe higher than where he is as a player right now.
44:18
SPEAKER_00: Last year, I would argue that his playmaker was a lot better than this year.
44:21
SPEAKER_00: That's just me as a guy that's not watching all the minutes of Houston Rockets, but just based on what I've seen so far.
44:25
SPEAKER_00: He's taking the next step on the other spots, but his playmaker may be a little back step.
44:29
SPEAKER_00: So they, this is a team that could use an extra playmaker because Jabar Smith Jr.
44:33
SPEAKER_00: is also a play finisher.
44:34
SPEAKER_00: And Dylan Brooks, hell, everybody knows a play finisher.
44:37
SPEAKER_00: He's having a really good season so far.
44:39
SPEAKER_00: They could use some more playmaking.
44:41
SPEAKER_00: And he Jalen Green don't really provide that.
44:44
SPEAKER_00: Again, I would tell the fan bases that are, I guess, arguing about him or mad at him give give the young man a little bit more time.
44:52
SPEAKER_00: That was what I would tell him.
44:54
SPEAKER_00: Matt says, what is your take on the whole Jalen Brunson and Becky Hammond thing?
44:58
SPEAKER_00: For the people at home that are out of the loop.
45:00
SPEAKER_00: Becky Hammond is a Hall of Fame WMBA player, Hall of Fame basketball player.
45:05
SPEAKER_00: And she also is the coach of the Aces right now.
45:08
SPEAKER_00: And they won a championship recently.
45:10
SPEAKER_00: She's doing some TV work and she was asked about the Knicks.
45:13
SPEAKER_00: And she mentioned, this is her exact quote verbatim, at least part of her quote.
45:17
SPEAKER_00: You gotta have a dude.
45:18
SPEAKER_00: You gotta have a 1A dude.
45:20
SPEAKER_00: And they're missing that at the end of the day.
45:22
SPEAKER_00: If they're just getting, if we're just getting down to brass taxes, she mentioned the reason why she doesn't look at Jalen Brunson as a 1A is because he's too small.
45:30
SPEAKER_00: And historically, throughout the game of basketball, it takes a special type of talent, the Steph Curry is of the world, the Isaiah Thomas is of the world, and I'm talking about Zeke Isaiah Thomas to have a guard, a small guard specifically, be your number one guy to win a championship.
45:43
SPEAKER_00: Perk, who was on the set with her, push back on that and say, hey, Jalen Brunson is that guy right now.
45:47
SPEAKER_00: And then it got a lot of discourse, and it actually got to the point where Becky Hammond had to put together an entire like apology statement, which I felt bad about.
45:55
SPEAKER_00: Because no way you should have an NBA opinion and feel that you need to apologize for it.
46:00
SPEAKER_00: Because though I don't agree with what she's saying completely, she didn't just pull it out of her ass.
46:05
SPEAKER_00: Like she she looked at the last 75 years of basketball as a hell.
46:10
SPEAKER_00: Winning a championship with a small guard is just inherently tough.
46:16
SPEAKER_00: And I I can say, based on history, that's facts.
46:21
SPEAKER_00: But also, I think that we're going to the next stage of basketball where the history, and though there's going to be for the most part, history is going to repeat itself in times, but because of the way we shoot the basketball as an NBA, and I'm acting like I'm in the damn league for whatever reason, the amount of three-point shots we get up and the effectiveness of those three-point shots, I do believe that you could have a small guard be your 1-A.
46:46
SPEAKER_00: But I also don't believe that Jalen Brunson is that right now.
46:49
SPEAKER_00: And that's okay.
46:50
SPEAKER_00: That is that doesn't mean that Jalen Brunson is not an all-star.
46:53
SPEAKER_00: That doesn't mean that once the time is coming and you ask me to pull out uh an all-NBA ballot that Jalen Brunson is not, he's a name I'm gonna contemplate.
47:00
SPEAKER_00: But we have to remember what winning a championship is.
47:05
SPEAKER_00: It's the hardest thing to do in sports.
47:07
SPEAKER_00: It's the hardest thing to do in sports.
47:10
SPEAKER_00: And there's a reason why the Knicks are still trying to acquire another star because Jalen Brunson, as is, is just not enough.
47:17
SPEAKER_00: And again, that is that's completely okay.
47:20
SPEAKER_00: Jalen Bronson is an amazing basketball player, but historically, throughout the history of basketball, forget about his size being a smaller guard.
47:27
SPEAKER_00: Because again, I said that I think that history is gonna say that you can get away with that eventually.
47:32
SPEAKER_00: Historically, you need a top 10 player.
47:35
SPEAKER_00: And I feel like that's a part of history that will continue to be the case for as long as we go.
47:41
SPEAKER_00: You're gonna need a top 10 player.
47:43
SPEAKER_00: And can we can we say that Jalen Brunson is top 10 right now?
47:47
SPEAKER_00: I don't think he's top 10.
47:48
SPEAKER_00: And I had to pause, and this is in no specific order, but I put together 10 players that I believe at this moment in time are better than Jalen Brunson.
47:54
SPEAKER_00: Jokic, Steph Curry, Joel Embiid, Giannis, Luca, Devin Booker, Jason Tatum, Shea, KD, Brombron.
48:01
SPEAKER_00: That's 10.
48:02
SPEAKER_00: That's 10.
48:02
SPEAKER_00: That's 10.
48:03
SPEAKER_00: He's not top 10.
48:04
SPEAKER_00: Which again, it's fine.
48:07
SPEAKER_00: You typically need a top 10 player.
48:09
SPEAKER_00: That's all.
48:10
SPEAKER_00: Shout out to JB.
48:11
SPEAKER_00: I mean, the man has been phenomenal, but I just think that they as a team could use a little bit more.
48:16
SPEAKER_00: And I said in the podcast episodes, two episodes ago, um, I was asked a question what is a team that is one piece away?
48:22
SPEAKER_00: I mentioned the Knicks as that team.
48:24
SPEAKER_00: I'm a believer in their ability if they are able to pull off a let's just say all-star caliber trait, not even superstar caliber trade, that they can make some noise.
48:33
SPEAKER_00: And the last question comes from Jacob.
48:34
SPEAKER_00: What are your favoriteslash least favorites broadcasting teams?
48:38
SPEAKER_00: Uh make a tier list of all of them.
48:40
SPEAKER_00: That's that's just too that's just a little bit too much.
48:42
SPEAKER_00: Jacob, I'm not making a tier list, but I can give you my three top ones and my three bottom ones.
48:47
SPEAKER_00: Let's let's talk about the bottom right now because this is a I'm a guy that's all about embracing the positivity of the game of basketball.
48:53
SPEAKER_00: So I hate doing negative, so let's get them out of the way.
48:57
SPEAKER_00: I despise the Boston Celtics broadcast.
49:01
SPEAKER_00: I despise the Golden State Warriors broadcast.
49:06
SPEAKER_00: And I don't love.
49:07
SPEAKER_00: I don't want to say I despise it.
49:08
SPEAKER_00: I don't I did those those bottom two are the bottom two.
49:12
SPEAKER_00: And my it's for me, again, this is just my own personal, this is just my own personal experience.
49:17
SPEAKER_00: I also just don't I don't really like the Atlanta Hawks broadcast.
49:22
SPEAKER_00: All right.
49:22
SPEAKER_00: If the options are to listen to the Atlanta Hawks or the opposing team, as long as they're not going against the Warriors or not going against the Celtics, I'm gonna listen to the opposing team.
49:31
SPEAKER_00: Um and I think one thing that is important for fans at home when they're watching is to have their commentary group have a little bit of fandom, a little bit of biases towards the team they're covering.
49:42
SPEAKER_00: It's just inevitable, and I think it's actually important to have some of it.
49:46
SPEAKER_00: But those three teams specifically have a little bit more than my liking.
49:50
SPEAKER_00: Listen, my favorite broadcast is my Chicago Bulls broadcast, and I would be lying to you if I said they weren't biased here.
49:55
SPEAKER_00: They undoubtedly are, but those two, those three teams just take the cake.
49:59
SPEAKER_00: So let me transition.
50:00
SPEAKER_00: I'm not even gonna count my bulls because they're my favorite.
50:02
SPEAKER_00: You should know that.
50:03
SPEAKER_00: Anyway, anyway, my three other favorites, New York Knicks, and it does not come on, man.
50:09
SPEAKER_00: And this is no specific order, but New York Knicks, it's hard to, it's hard to beat that.
50:15
SPEAKER_00: Because I think that broadcasting is not just the people on the microphone, it's the atmosphere of the games that they're calling.
50:21
SPEAKER_00: The atmosphere in the mecca adds to it, and they also have an elite level broadcasting booth, right?
50:26
SPEAKER_00: My number two, I mean yeah, not in a specific order.
50:28
SPEAKER_00: The Portland Trailblazers, man.
50:30
SPEAKER_00: I love watching the Portland Trailblazers and listening to their commentary group.
50:35
SPEAKER_00: There are games, and this is this is no joke, like this is real life where you know the Trailblazers have the last game of the night in a lot of cases.
50:42
SPEAKER_00: Sometimes I'm basketball out where the West Coast games I don't watch in real time.
50:46
SPEAKER_00: I'll come back in the morning and watch.
50:48
SPEAKER_00: There are times where I'm not even watching the Blazers game, but I'll have it up and listening to the commentary.
50:55
SPEAKER_00: Not watching the game, but listening to the commentary.
50:58
SPEAKER_00: It is an elite level broadcasting booth.
51:01
SPEAKER_00: And my last one, it hurts because this is a team that for the foreseeable future I probably won't be watching much of.
51:06
SPEAKER_00: The Toronto Raptors.
51:07
SPEAKER_00: Is it Matt Devlin over there?
51:08
SPEAKER_00: I think it's Matt Devlin.
51:09
SPEAKER_00: I love their broadcast.
51:11
SPEAKER_00: I don't know what it is about it.
51:12
SPEAKER_00: He just has a way with it, you know.
51:14
SPEAKER_00: Um, but they're one of the teams that I'm just not watching actively.
51:17
SPEAKER_00: You feel me?
51:18
SPEAKER_00: Uh hopefully you understand.
51:19
SPEAKER_00: Everybody outside of Toronto probably understands, but the people in Toronto watching this, like Kenny, how can you say that?
51:24
SPEAKER_00: They're one of my favorite broadcasting booths, but it's it's hard to watch them right now.
51:30
SPEAKER_00: So I do want to say this as we get to this last team.
51:32
SPEAKER_00: And this last team, I maybe should have ordered it a little bit better because it's not a ton to say compared to the first two teams.
51:37
SPEAKER_00: Whatever, whatever.
51:38
SPEAKER_00: When I think about contending teams across basketball, I think in the top of the show, I mentioned that we're gonna see most teams make trades.
51:43
SPEAKER_00: And I'm kind of thinking about it.
51:44
SPEAKER_00: I don't know how true that is this year.
51:46
SPEAKER_00: I feel like there are five teams, five contending teams that have their roster is their roster.
51:51
SPEAKER_00: The Suns, your roster is your roster.
51:54
SPEAKER_00: They might make some small change, they might have a buyout player, they might uh get trade their 10th man, their rotation for somebody else's 10th man.
52:01
SPEAKER_00: For the most part, your roster is your roster.
52:04
SPEAKER_00: The Milwaukee Bucks, your roster is your roster.
52:06
SPEAKER_00: Boston Celtics have an opportunity to add one player with a Grant Williams trade exception, but for the most part, their roster is their roster.
52:13
SPEAKER_00: Minnesota, Denver, and the Clippers.
52:15
SPEAKER_00: Those teams I'm expecting to maybe make some deals, but not anything that's gonna be like, oh my God, you know.
52:20
SPEAKER_00: Um, but this one team, a team that I'm act after actively rooting for them to make not a trade, but multiple trades.
52:28
SPEAKER_00: See Atlanta Hawks.
52:30
SPEAKER_00: I think it's back to the drawing board when it comes to building around Trey Young.
52:33
SPEAKER_00: And maybe, in some people's opinions, it's back to the the drawing board and building anything.
52:39
SPEAKER_00: Uh, some people have already given up on Trey Young as a player.
52:42
SPEAKER_00: I am not at that point yet.
52:43
SPEAKER_00: I still do believe in Trey Young as a guard.
52:45
SPEAKER_00: He's having a phenomenal season, especially the last month or so.
52:48
SPEAKER_00: But the idea of having DeJounte Murray, uh, DeAndre Hunter, Clint Capella, just the core in itself, just hasn't meshed well.
52:56
SPEAKER_00: And I got to see that firsthand here in Chicago a couple days ago, where Jalen Johnson just came back and he had been, and I said this before, and I got some Twitter backlash, if that's even really a thing.
53:06
SPEAKER_00: I had said that before Jalen Johnson's injury, you can argue that he was the second best player on the team for them.
53:10
SPEAKER_00: And I know DeJounte's there and he was averaging 20, but as far as full-on impact, outside of the one game, um, man, DeJounte went crazy against what was that, the Timberwolves, like the day before Halloween.
53:21
SPEAKER_00: But for the most part, in my eyes, when I watched that team play, Jalen Johnson had been that impactful of a player and they missed him for a month time.
53:28
SPEAKER_00: So I they're not good actively, but Jalen Johnson just came back.
53:32
SPEAKER_00: But this is a team that I believe should be still making moves.
53:35
SPEAKER_00: The DeJounte Murray, Trey Young thing just does not work.
53:38
SPEAKER_00: When you have this long of a time, was it two seasons or some change of appearing and you haven't seen the benefits of it?
53:45
SPEAKER_00: It's probably time.
53:46
SPEAKER_00: The DeAndre Hunter piece is your wing that's gonna be 3nd, hasn't work, it's probably time.
53:51
SPEAKER_00: The Click Capella transition to getting Yucca Kongle is probably time.
53:55
SPEAKER_00: And hell, I'm saying that a day after I just watched Drummond give Yucca Kango 25 rebounds.
54:01
SPEAKER_00: Like I just watched that.
54:02
SPEAKER_00: It is time to make that shift.
54:06
SPEAKER_00: And some of those players I mentioned to be traded will have some value.
54:10
SPEAKER_00: The problem with it is that the easy trades are the ones where you're bottoming out.
54:14
SPEAKER_00: Hell, we're gonna trade DeJounte for draft capital and we're gonna reset our team.
54:19
SPEAKER_00: Now, if you're keeping Trey Young, obviously you're not resetting your team.
54:23
SPEAKER_00: That is the difficulty in trading these players because when you're not trying to bottom out, at least in most cases, maybe they are, maybe they will try to trade Trey Young as well.
54:31
SPEAKER_00: But I doubt that.
54:32
SPEAKER_00: You're not trying to bottom out, but you need to make trades to help Trey Young.
54:38
SPEAKER_00: A person that's buying DeJounte Murray is typically not trying to get you the pieces that's making them win because they're trying to buy to add on to winning.
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SPEAKER_00: Those are the trades that are hardest to do.
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SPEAKER_00: And I can't wait to see exactly what they do because I've, again, I've been disappointed.
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SPEAKER_00: I've been very vocal about my disappointment.
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SPEAKER_00: Because before the season started, you asked me who my second team was, the team I'm expecting to take a jump, the team I'm actively rooting for outside of my Bulls, it was the Atlanta Hawks.
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SPEAKER_00: And we got into the week of the season.
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SPEAKER_00: I said, what the hell?
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SPEAKER_00: Why the hell did I pick this team?
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SPEAKER_00: Jalen Johns was the reason.
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SPEAKER_00: I knew he was gonna have a great season, and I've been right on that so far.
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SPEAKER_00: But man, it's been bad.
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SPEAKER_00: And when you when you think about it being a couple seasons of this core, it's it's it's about time.
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SPEAKER_00: It's about time.
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SPEAKER_00: It's about time.
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SPEAKER_00: What are they sitting at right now?
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SPEAKER_00: They're outside of the play-in after losing to the Bulls, three-game loser streak actively, 12 and 18.
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SPEAKER_00: I ain't a person in the world that convinced me it's not time.
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SPEAKER_00: So it is.
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SPEAKER_00: All right, man.
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SPEAKER_00: That that's the end of this episode of Kenny Beach and Podcast.
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