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The "Smither-vent" - Episode 150 - The defamation of Chief Washington · Brian Thomas

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Speaker 1: Fifty five krese the talk station.
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Speaker 2: Seven on a Monday. It's the time of week. I'm
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Speaker 2: always looking forward to get the benefit of the logic
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Speaker 2: and reasonable. Christopher Smithman, who is for fromer vice Mayor
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Speaker 2: of the City of Cincinnati. He's a businessman, financial planner,
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Speaker 2: so he knows his numbers. Thank god, Christopher Smithman, welcome back,
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Speaker 2: my friend. Always loved talking with you.
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Speaker 1: Brian, thanks for having me on. Today's show is for
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Speaker 1: me today, Brother, is all about Chief Michael Washington. This
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Speaker 1: is the fire chief that I've been talking about on
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Speaker 1: your show for years, and he was the fire chief.
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Speaker 1: He was terminated three years ago. The city appealed Judge
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Speaker 1: Cole's case. Are his decisions probably the better way to
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Speaker 1: say it. And a three panel federal judge smacked the
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Speaker 1: city down last week. And I mean in a very
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Speaker 1: pointed way, so you know, again not being a lawyer,
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Speaker 1: but here's here's what I read from it. Number One,
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Speaker 1: the city manager did not tell the truth. The city
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Speaker 1: manager's deposition was was was inconsistent, right, and so they
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Speaker 1: didn't say she lied, okay, but they said she wasn't truthful.
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Speaker 1: Number Two, the judges said no immunity so city of
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Speaker 1: Cincinnati has no immunity and the city manager personally has
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Speaker 1: no immunity. And this is like like they they're they're
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Speaker 1: trying to figure out why.
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Speaker 3: The city manager did not listen to her own lawyers.
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Speaker 1: Her lawyers said essentially, hey, don't do this or don't
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Speaker 1: do it this way way, and she basically was like,
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Speaker 1: I'm the boss, I'm running this, I'm doing it my way.
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Speaker 1: He's out of here. I'm firing him. And the federal
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Speaker 1: judges said, you can't do that, you can't do that.
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Speaker 1: This man's this man has a right and you have
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Speaker 1: violated his constitutional rights. And so we're going to send
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Speaker 1: this back to the lower court with a SmackDown. And
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Speaker 1: all of the facts regarding wrongful termination have been determined,
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Speaker 1: So we're not debating any more public taxpayer, whether Chief
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Speaker 1: Washington was wrongfully terminated. It has been determined and it
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Speaker 1: has been codified by judges three or three panel judge
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Speaker 1: federal court. And now we're down to Brian. What is
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Speaker 1: the city going to pay and what is the process
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Speaker 1: to getting to that number?
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Speaker 3: So are they.
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Speaker 1: Are they going to do arbitration option one? Are is
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Speaker 1: there going to be a jury trial? But the arbitration
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Speaker 1: and the jurial to the taxpayer is not on the
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Speaker 1: facts of the case. Those have been determined. It's about
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Speaker 1: how much are they going to pay Chief Washington. I'm
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Speaker 1: speculating based on the city moving nine million dollars over
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Speaker 1: for judgments, that is going to be ten million or
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Speaker 1: higher if the city is smart. If the city is smart.
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Speaker 1: Having been the vice mayor and this city council, this mayor,
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Speaker 1: this administration doesn't seem to be smart. They don't even
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Speaker 1: know when they've lost, like they've lost on such a
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Speaker 1: big way, on such a big stage. I have never, ever,
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Speaker 1: ever seen a federal court say that the city manager,
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Speaker 1: in the act of her duties, has no immunity, so
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Speaker 1: when he gets done with the city, he.
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Speaker 3: Can then go work on her.
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Speaker 1: And basically this the federal court said, this is defamation,
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Speaker 1: a defamation enough his character.
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Speaker 3: He didn't do all those things you said he did.
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Speaker 1: And if you read some of the articles out there,
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Speaker 1: those original articles, it almost feels like sexual misconduct, which
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Speaker 1: has nothing to do with this case at all. But
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Speaker 1: the problem is that Chief Michael Washington has been applying
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Speaker 1: for jobs all over the country and he's the finalist
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Speaker 1: but they say, we can't offer you that job because
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Speaker 1: you got this pending litigation against you with your previous employer.
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Speaker 2: He is, I guess from all accounts he has qualified
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Speaker 2: and has been the leading candidate and other fire departments
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Speaker 2: become their chief. But for this looming termination issue hanging
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Speaker 2: over his head, he is eminently qualified and by all accounts,
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Speaker 2: my understanding is he would have had a job by
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Speaker 2: now had it not been for.
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Speaker 3: This hundred percent.
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Speaker 1: Brian Thomas and the taxpayer, I know we got to
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Speaker 1: go to break, but the taxpayer, guess what, they're the
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Speaker 1: ones that pay the bill. It's not sir Long unless
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Speaker 1: he goes after her personally. The ten million is coming
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Speaker 1: from the caller, right, which is what we the taxpayer
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Speaker 1: in Cincinnati, Thatt one point eight percent. We're going to
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Speaker 1: be allocating that towards Chief Michael Washington.
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Speaker 2: Well, and I am not up to speed with the
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Speaker 2: complexity in the realities of city government liability and maybe
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Speaker 2: the idea and here's where it's going through my mind.
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Speaker 2: Cheryl Long now can be held personally responsible because her decision,
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Speaker 2: and she said it was her own, led to the
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Speaker 2: termination of Chief Washington. The City of Cincinnati therefore isn't
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Speaker 2: really liable, is it?
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Speaker 3: So?
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Speaker 2: Could not the city say, Hey, I am going to
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Speaker 2: sue Cheryl Long for reimbursement for the money we had
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Speaker 2: to pay as a consequence of her singular decision. If
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Speaker 2: she had immunity, that would be a foolish thing to
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Speaker 2: make an assertion on. But since they have taken away
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Speaker 2: her personal immunity on that, and she seems to be
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Speaker 2: solely responsible for making that decision, one could argue that
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Speaker 2: they may have that cause of action. I'm not sure
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Speaker 2: as I work it through my head this morning. Don't
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Speaker 2: go away. We're going to find out what Christopher's thoughts
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Speaker 2: are about what's going to happen to Cheryl Long? Will
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Speaker 2: they get rid of her? Throw her?
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Speaker 3: See the talk station.
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Speaker 2: Ker City talk Station Brian Thomas with Christopher Smith and
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Speaker 2: doing this smither Man focusing on former fire chief Washington
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Speaker 2: determined to be terminated wrongfully by city manager Cheryl Long.
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Speaker 2: And it was suggested, Christopher, just kind of going back
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Speaker 2: to my point at the end of that segment, that
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Speaker 2: Cheryl Long did this, made this decision unilaterally, you suggested
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Speaker 2: the document show and the appellate court said that she
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Speaker 2: ignored the advice of the lawyers that were surrounding her.
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Speaker 2: I've always kind of thought maybe this was aft have
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Speaker 2: Purvoll's idea, And of course, since city Manager Long has
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Speaker 2: the hiring firing authority by herself, going back to your
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Speaker 2: signature campaign, that maybe she was nudged along to doing it.
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Speaker 2: She's never said that out loud, But now that she
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Speaker 2: has been deemed to be personally liable and that Chief
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Speaker 2: Washington could sue her individually for being terminated wrongfully, do
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Speaker 2: you think she might pivot and bring out some more
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Speaker 2: information in defense of herself, like, no, this wasn't my idea,
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Speaker 2: I was told to by the mayor. Is that possible, Christopher?
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Speaker 2: Is he there?
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Speaker 1: Christopher?
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Speaker 2: Can you hear me?
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Speaker 1: Sorry? Yes, I can, Sorry, I can't hear you. Yes.
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Speaker 1: It is speculation on my part that the mayor was
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Speaker 1: involved with this, absolutely, and I think that when if
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Speaker 1: she's put on the stand right and that.
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Speaker 3: Pressure is on her.
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Speaker 1: She's going to have to say, my boss, you know,
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Speaker 1: directed me to terminate the fire chief. I believe that,
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Speaker 1: and it speaks.
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Speaker 3: To the heart of the petition because you know, he.
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Speaker 1: Has this power over the manager, instead of the manager
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Speaker 1: saying listen, I've got to take this to the Board
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Speaker 1: of Directors and have seven of the nine members of
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Speaker 1: council agree with this, which takes the pressure or off
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Speaker 1: of the manager, this undue pressure that I think you're
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Speaker 1: asserting that the mayor currently has, and that's why we're
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Speaker 1: out collecting signatures.
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Speaker 3: To eighty eighty eighty five people are.
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Speaker 1: Out there collecting signators to place this issue on the ballot.
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Speaker 1: I also want to respond to something you said, Brian,
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Speaker 1: which I think is important is they call her an
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Speaker 1: officer right of the agency or officer of the city,
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Speaker 1: so they're always checks and balances, meaning the boarder director
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Speaker 1: at any point could have said, even though we don't
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Speaker 1: have the power to fire you, or we're not the
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Speaker 1: mayor hasn't presented you for termination. The chair of Law
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Speaker 1: and Public Safety right or the chair of Budget and
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Speaker 1: Finance could have said city manager would like you to
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Speaker 1: come to us, and we don't have a discussion with
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Speaker 1: you about this termination. So there was no effort by
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Speaker 1: the board to figure it out, which by the way,
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Speaker 1: puts the city right in the crosshairs, meaning the people
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Speaker 1: who are going to pay money, the big money are
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Speaker 1: going to be the task.
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Speaker 3: Fairs Oh yeah.
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Speaker 1: The second person is going to be the city manager personally.
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Speaker 1: And what I speculate is going to happen is the
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Speaker 1: city is going to go to the city law firm
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Speaker 1: and say, look, we want to get the city manager
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Speaker 1: off the hook.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, how much do we have to pay you all
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Speaker 4: your client for you to drop not only the case
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Speaker 4: against the city but the case against the city manager.
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Speaker 3: We won't actually see that.
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Speaker 1: Hand, but that is probably what I see is going
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Speaker 1: to happen.
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Speaker 2: Well, she's going to have to get her own lawyer, though, Christopher,
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Speaker 2: because I think I can see a potential conflict of
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Speaker 2: interest going back to my point that although Sarah Long
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Speaker 2: probably does not have sufficient financial resources to the extent
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Speaker 2: she could be held responsible for all of this to
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Speaker 2: cover the nut, but she finds herself in financial liability
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Speaker 2: that the city could very well turn around and stab
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Speaker 2: her in the back. So legal conflict of interests jumps
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Speaker 2: out of me. So the other component is Washington Chief
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Speaker 2: former Chief Washington, who would have to decide that he
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Speaker 2: doesn't want to go after her personally. Maybe he wants
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Speaker 2: a pound of flesh from city Manager Long because she
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Speaker 2: wrongfully terminated him. It's certainly possible, and the city could
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Speaker 2: not you know, prevent Washington from you know, going after
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Speaker 2: her personally. They might want to, well, they might want
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Speaker 2: to resolve the whole thing of one big, tiny settlement
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Speaker 2: package with her separate lawyers chiming in on in participating in.
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Speaker 2: But I don't know that she can rely on the
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Speaker 2: city lawyers at this point.
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Speaker 1: Well guess what that that that makes you the lawyer. Well,
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Speaker 1: and it makes me the financial premner.
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Speaker 3: That's the true and so and so.
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Speaker 1: At the end of the day, what this, what this
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Speaker 1: decision says is it goes back to the lower lower
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Speaker 1: court and the three panel judge judges basically affirmed. Are
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Speaker 1: the two of the three affirmed what the lower court
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Speaker 1: has ruled on. And I just want the public to
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Speaker 1: underunderstand that this is incompetence at the highest level. And
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Speaker 1: you have a dysfunctional council, a dysfunctional mayor any new
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Speaker 1: in any world, anybody listening to us discussed this, the
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Speaker 1: city manager would lose their job. Period. There's no way
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Speaker 1: you cost the institution ten million dollars or a higher
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Speaker 1: court says you didn't tell the truth, or you didn't
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Speaker 1: even listen to your own legal counsel, and I give
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Speaker 1: you a great evaluation, which happens like four or five
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Speaker 1: months ago. We gave you this stellar evaluation. You're doing
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Speaker 1: a great job. There's so many disconnects, Brian Thomas, But
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Speaker 1: at the end of the day, I want the taxpayer
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Speaker 1: to understand. Your only pillings in a sillon is to
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Speaker 1: sign the petition to make sure that this never happens again.
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Speaker 2: And of course petition is the one Christopher's circulating and
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Speaker 2: sign it yourself. Multiple locations Joe Strek and put the
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Speaker 2: location downe on my blog page. But it's to ensure
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Speaker 2: that the council members must engage in a discussion and
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Speaker 2: be involved with hiring and fire decisions for both the
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Speaker 2: chief of Police and fire chief. And of course you
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Speaker 2: haven't mentioned Chiefdiji question Mark Smithman if if Purval had
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Speaker 2: nothing to do with this, and keeping Washington was the
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Speaker 2: right thing to do because he was competent, he did
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Speaker 2: get great performance reviews. Wouldn't you, as the mayor of
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Speaker 2: the City of Cincinnati, fire her for firing Chief Washington
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Speaker 2: out of nowhere?
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Speaker 1: You did?
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Speaker 3: What?
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Speaker 2: What are you kidding me? You know he knew about
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Speaker 2: this in advance. Don't go away we got more with
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Speaker 2: Christopher Smithman at seven thirty seven. Right now, I want
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Speaker 2: to mention cover since and I want to focus on
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Speaker 2: my friends who are getting ready to go on Medicare
12:34
Speaker 2: that date is fast approaching, or folks who are already
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Speaker 2: on Medicare. And John Roman and cover of the talk
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Speaker 2: station sifty five care City Talk Station Christopher's Smitheman is
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Speaker 2: on the line doing Miss smither Van Christopher.
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Speaker 1: Thank you. I just want I just want to read
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Speaker 1: something from this finding, if you'll allow me just to
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Speaker 1: read this prassed I think it's two sentences, but essentially
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Speaker 1: the court or this this panel judge says, listen to
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Speaker 1: this language on this record, A reasonable juror could infer
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Speaker 1: that Long acted with malice or bad faith in making
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Speaker 1: the alleged defamatory statements about Washington related to his termination,
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Speaker 1: based on the record evidence suggesting that she intentionally disregarded
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Speaker 1: his constitutional rights in the course of that termination. And
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Speaker 1: then for these reasons, we affirmed the district Court's denial
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Speaker 1: of statutory immunity for the defamation claim. So you know,
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Speaker 1: at the end of the day, the public everything that
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Speaker 1: you Brian Thomas, myself, Christopher Smitherman that we've been talking
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Speaker 1: about on this show for the last year has been
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Speaker 1: the truth. The Democrats this city have been lying to
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Speaker 1: the public. Right, They've been acting as if this is
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Speaker 1: no big deal. They terminated him right in the right way,
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Speaker 1: just like they're doing right now to the police chief,
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Speaker 1: who will ultimately do the administrative hearing that they did
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Speaker 1: not do for the fire chief. But ultimately, Chief Fez,
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Speaker 1: you will also sue. But at the end of the day, man,
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Speaker 1: this comes down to complete in total incompetence, And it
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Speaker 1: is shocking to me that the city council will never
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Speaker 1: intervene and say enough is enough.
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Speaker 3: Right, you've got to go.
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Speaker 1: We cannot afford ten million dollar errors for the taxpayers
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Speaker 1: of Cincinnati. We've got roads to fix, we've got bridges
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Speaker 1: to fix, we've got flooding to fix. Right, we don't
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Speaker 1: have time for you to make hr decisions where you
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Speaker 1: just fire a key executive, right and then defame him
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Speaker 1: in the news. And by the way, all of the
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Speaker 1: news outlets should be put on warning they keep putting
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Speaker 1: out false information about this man.
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Speaker 3: Right.
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Speaker 1: Think about when this is over, he might decide to
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Speaker 1: use a part of his ten million to come after them,
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Speaker 1: because anytime you google his name, the craziness comes up
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Speaker 1: because the media seems to be in the tank with
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Speaker 1: the communication director of the city. You keep believing what
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Speaker 1: they're telling you instead of reading what I just read,
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Speaker 1: meaning the appellate court has a decision. Why doesn't the
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Speaker 1: media just say, let me attach the decision and tell
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Speaker 1: you what was said. Why do you keep putting out
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Speaker 1: these crazy headlines as if the chief has done something right.
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Speaker 1: The headline should have been defamation care the defamation of
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Speaker 1: Chief Washington has been determined or city manager did not
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Speaker 1: tell the truth. Our city manager lied right, and our
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Speaker 1: city manager could cost taxpayers tens of millions of dollars.
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Speaker 1: You know, they keep going after the chief when he's
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Speaker 1: the victim here and I'm letting the media I'm talking
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Speaker 1: about this mainstream local media, be careful. I'm a little
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Speaker 1: birdie in your ear. You're probably next. We're tired of
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Speaker 1: your crazy articles when you don't go out there and
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Speaker 1: tell the truth. And that's why the public right now
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Speaker 1: is in the dark. If they're not listening to this
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Speaker 1: show Brian Thomas, they're just in the dark. They don't
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Speaker 1: really know what's going on. But Brian Thomas has been saying, right, alert,
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Speaker 1: read alert, read alert, there's a problem here. Right, legally,
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Speaker 1: the city has a problem. Now we read from and
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Speaker 1: a three panel federal court that, by the way, I
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Speaker 1: think the next step is the Supreme Court. By the way,
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Speaker 1: the city is not going to take this to the
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Speaker 1: Supreme Court. And the Supreme Court wouldn't hear this case.
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Speaker 1: It's been determined that they wrongfully terminated Chief Washington. This
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Speaker 1: is defamation of character for him, and this is why
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Speaker 1: this man cannot find a job in three years. He's
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Speaker 1: driving around in his truck trying to trying to fill
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Speaker 1: his time up because he keeps being destroyed by this
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Speaker 1: city manager. And we have an f and an INPT
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Speaker 1: nine members of council that seem to not want to
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Speaker 1: reel her in. And that is where if I were
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Speaker 1: a jury, I would say City Council Board of Directors,
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Speaker 1: why didn't you wheel her in? Why didn't you say
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Speaker 1: anything publicly? Hey, mayor? Why do you do it?
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Speaker 3: You know why?
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Speaker 1: Because you're all in it. You're all in the can here,
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Speaker 1: and you all were working to destroy this man's reputation.
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Speaker 1: If Chief Washington is listening today, I want him to
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Speaker 1: know we've always believed you. You are a great fire
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Speaker 1: chief for the city of Cincinnati, and any department in
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Speaker 1: the country who's listening to this interview, you should hire
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Speaker 1: this man. He was a great fire chief and he
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Speaker 1: deserves a second chance. This manager has has engaged in defamation,
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Speaker 1: and she herself has has no immunity and nor does
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Speaker 1: the city. All this really has my crawl because of
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Speaker 1: what they've done to this man. And by the way,
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Speaker 1: where's the Cincinnati in Double ACP. Huh, You've got a
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Speaker 1: black man who's been terminated by a black woman. If
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Speaker 1: this was a white woman or a white man who
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Speaker 1: had fired this black man, I guarantee you we've heard
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Speaker 1: from the Cincinnati in Double ACP. But because it's a
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Speaker 1: black woman firing a black man, and clearly this court
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Speaker 1: is saying his constitutional rights have been violated, the Cincinnati
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Speaker 1: in Double ACP has been silent.
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Speaker 2: And Christopher smithan once president of NAACP, in your capacity
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Speaker 2: as president of NAACP, would you have said something along regardless.
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Speaker 1: Percent one hundred percent, I would have said, listen, we
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Speaker 1: have a problem here where we have a person who
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Speaker 1: is a member of the Cincinnati in Double ACP who
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Speaker 1: has been wrong terminated. I'm sharing with you the politics are.
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Speaker 1: You've got a black woman, a black American who's fired
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Speaker 1: a black man, so they don't see the racial component
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Speaker 1: of it, because that is not how they view identity politics.
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Speaker 1: I'm letting you know, Brian Thomas, if it were a
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Speaker 1: white male city manager or white female who had fired
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Speaker 1: Chief Washington, and most people don't even know he's a
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Speaker 1: black American, the Cincinnati NAACP would have been saying something
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Speaker 1: about it, no question about it.
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Speaker 2: All right, Well, and you know this whole conversation, I
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Speaker 2: know you you pivoted over into a race component of
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Speaker 2: the firing of Chief Washington. But the firing of Chief
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Speaker 2: Thiji just has so many parallels to the firing of
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Speaker 2: Chief Washington. They had to hire a law firm to
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Speaker 2: go back and look at her entire record after she
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Speaker 2: was terminated to figure out if there was something that
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Speaker 2: they could hang their hat on in order to justify
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Speaker 2: the termination which had already happened. Red flag much on that.
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Speaker 1: Christopher, I know, taking my head because Brian, here's the
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Speaker 1: real reason. Having been the vice mayor, they're really retaining
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Speaker 1: this law firm to fight the case because the legal
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Speaker 1: team in the city can't handle it. They can't handle
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Speaker 1: the warriors that are coming. So they've hired this outside
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Speaker 1: council and they're probably stalling. They're probably putting up walls
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Speaker 1: and like they've done Chief Washington to drag Chief Fiji
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Speaker 1: for years and years because ultimately the city manager, most
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Speaker 1: likely right now, is looking for another job. Right so
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Speaker 1: you know, typically as the mayor finishes.
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Speaker 3: Their term, she's not going to finish.
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Speaker 1: Out the next two years. Look for her to try
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Speaker 1: to get another job somewhere, and she wants to get
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Speaker 1: that job before these hammers drop. So she's on her
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Speaker 1: way out of here, dude, she's on her way. She
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Speaker 1: is on her way looking for another job with a
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Speaker 1: great evaluation that this city council gave her, knowing knowing
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Speaker 1: the defamation, knowing the lack of immunity that she had,
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Speaker 1: knowing the bad decisions, they gave her a great evaluation
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Speaker 1: because they really don't care about as taxpayers. They just
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Speaker 1: don't do This is about protection Democrats, you know, circling
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Speaker 1: the wagon. And so you know, again this is incompetence
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Speaker 1: of an executive. It's clearly written here and now that'sked Joe.
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Speaker 1: If it's okay with you are okay with the station
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Speaker 1: to literally post the finding so that people can.
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Speaker 2: Read the opinion. It's a legal opinion. Of course you
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Speaker 2: can post it. Can you have this citation for it?
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Speaker 2: You can find it on your own. But now joking
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Speaker 2: link the opinion, that's no problem. It's what the three
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Speaker 2: zero opinion reads. It is opinion of record. And I
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Speaker 2: would argue, in contrast to your comment about Cheryl Long
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Speaker 2: going out and getting a job before it all hits
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Speaker 2: the fan, dude, the horses left the bar and the
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Speaker 2: opinions out there, it's already I mean, her, her reputation
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Speaker 2: is already solidified based upon what the Court of Appeals
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Speaker 2: has determined. So you know, good luck. It's her career
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Speaker 2: and her future that's at stake here. But I think
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Speaker 2: that ship has sailed for Cheryl Long. We'll see Christopher
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Speaker 2: Smith all see, and.
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Speaker 1: I know we got to go. But look, my heart
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Speaker 1: goes out to all the victims that were shot over
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Speaker 1: the weekend. I don't want to know. I usually make
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Speaker 1: a comment about it, but you know, I believe there
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Speaker 1: were six people shot over this weekend by no answer
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Speaker 1: or the council, no answer by the mayor, no answer
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Speaker 1: by the city manager. They really have not had a
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Speaker 1: clear plan. They have a plan to protect maybe downtown,
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Speaker 1: the core, but the other fifty one neighborhoods, in my opinion,
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Speaker 1: are out there on their own. It's like the wild
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Speaker 1: wild West out there. So I am very very My
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Speaker 1: heart goes out and I'm just tired of all the
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Speaker 1: victims every single weekend. Brian, And again I conclude, thank
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Speaker 1: you for letting me have a voice. I appreciate that,
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Speaker 1: Brian Thomas. I hope that your listeners get something from.
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Speaker 3: These exchanges that you and I have.
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Speaker 1: And to Chief Washington and to Chiefdigi, who were both
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Speaker 1: great professionals for the city, we wish both of you
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Speaker 1: will and we wish you the best. Even though this
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Speaker 1: is gonna cost me, partly as a taxpayer money, Chief
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Speaker 1: Washington deserves every bit of the ten million that he's
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Speaker 1: gonna get.
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Speaker 2: Christ Well, we'll do this again next Monday. As always,
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Speaker 2: appreciate you being on the program, my friend, stay well,
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Speaker 2: Thank you, sir. Seven five Kosity Talk station Get in
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