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Best Of Billy & Lisa: Heated Rivalry + Dating Ins & Outs · Billy & Lisa in the Morning

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  Speaker 1: It's the best Avilian Lisa in the morning.
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  Speaker 2: Well it's Saturday morning, so you know what that means.
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  Speaker 2: It's the best Avilian Lisa in the morning.
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  Speaker 3: I'm producer Riley.
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to count down the top five moments of
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  Speaker 2: the week with you. Let's start off strong, because there
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  Speaker 2: is drama. Ashley Tisdale recently said that she had to
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  Speaker 2: leave this mom group because it was so toxic, and
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  Speaker 2: now other people from the group are weighing and we
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  Speaker 2: really couldn't tell who the problem was here though it
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  Speaker 2: sounds like they're all a little bit toxic.
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  Speaker 3: It's number five.
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  Speaker 4: Hillary Duff's husband, Matthew Koma now Matthew Koma is a
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  Speaker 4: songwriter producer. He wrote Clarity, which was produced by Zed.
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  Speaker 4: That's one of his songs.
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  Speaker 5: Hero Song.
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  Speaker 4: He wrote that song, okay, and then Zed worked on it. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: so that's who he is. So he entered the conversation yesterday.
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  Speaker 4: He inserted himself as the husband surrounding the Ashley Tisdale drama,
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  Speaker 4: and he posted a photo of himself photoshopped into Ashley
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  Speaker 4: Tisdale's body with the headline the most self obsessed Tone
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  Speaker 4: Duff person on Earth.
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  Speaker 6: Okay, So let's recap the original story. People are just
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  Speaker 6: tuning in that, don't build the story.
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  Speaker 4: Actually, Tisdale left a mom group which was filled with
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  Speaker 4: celebrities like Hillary Duff, Mandy Moore, Megan Trainer because she
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  Speaker 4: felt like they were giving her the cold shoulder and
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  Speaker 4: that she was being left out of events, and she
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  Speaker 4: said she couldn't handle it anymore. It was like high school.
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  Speaker 4: So she sent them a group text saying I'm out.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not doing this anymore. And then she wrote this
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  Speaker 4: article for The Cut basically talking about, you know, toxic
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  Speaker 4: mom groups.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, she didn't call him out by name, but no,
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  Speaker 6: in previous interviews she had talked about those specific women
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  Speaker 6: being part of the Mom's.
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  Speaker 4: Club and she unfollowed Hillary Duff and Mandy Moore. So, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: this speculation. And now with Matthew Coma, who's Hillary Duff's husband,
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  Speaker 4: coming out and inserting himself into the conversation, it's like, okay,
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  Speaker 4: what are we doing here?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah?
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  Speaker 7: He is now Minus's manhood. Yeah, I mean I should
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  Speaker 7: never even appear in public. Husband, You never get involved
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  Speaker 7: with your wife's drama. I'm on his side on this, really.
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  Speaker 6: Even though I've been dragged into things but I'm of
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  Speaker 6: the belief like I stand with my people, I get
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  Speaker 6: there back, and I've been dragged in situations like this,
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  Speaker 6: and I take my wife's side unless it's like completely
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  Speaker 6: outlandish but right.
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  Speaker 7: But no, there's such a thing as taking your wife's side,
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  Speaker 7: but you don't publicly get involved. I mean, this guy
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  Speaker 7: went public with it, like now he's involved with the
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  Speaker 7: mom group.
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  Speaker 6: What I'm assuming happened is Hillary Duffo is probably upset
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  Speaker 6: because now this story exploded, by the way, and we
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  Speaker 6: talked about it yesterday in the morning, it exploded all
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  Speaker 6: day long, so she's probably upset. He's probably watching his
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  Speaker 6: wife be upset, and he's like, I'm gonna.
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  Speaker 4: Do something, Oh my god, photoshops his face on.
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  Speaker 6: I I do agree, But.
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  Speaker 7: You would go public in your support of your wife's
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  Speaker 7: if I sole mini dramas.
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  Speaker 6: If I saw my wife really upset about something, I
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  Speaker 6: would feel like I have to do something.
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  Speaker 4: Your face on like her friend's body and post it
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  Speaker 4: on social Oh my god.
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  Speaker 7: I'd be Oh, you should put a dish aside in
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  Speaker 7: the house somewhere for your testicles And no, no, no,
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  Speaker 7: I mean that's called place to store them once they're
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  Speaker 7: cut off.
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  Speaker 6: That's called getting someone's back, getting your people's back, which
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  Speaker 6: I'm all for.
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  Speaker 7: No, I totally support my wife, but again, the drama,
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  Speaker 7: don't get me involved. I don't want to be in
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  Speaker 7: first and first of all, you get involved in the
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  Speaker 7: couple stuff, the couple breakups. You got to be careful
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  Speaker 7: because that couple is always going to end up together.
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  Speaker 7: And now you're the bad guy exactly, you didn't do anything.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, well, when the breakups happen, happen, it's like you
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  Speaker 6: take it on one side. You know, you have to
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  Speaker 6: know you shouldn't take a side. Oh, I know, but
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  Speaker 6: sometimes you feel like you have to take a side,
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  Speaker 6: and then it just gets weird. This happens all the time,
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  Speaker 6: especially in couples and friendships or whatever.
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  Speaker 8: But good morning, this is Diane.
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  Speaker 9: I just wanted to say, maybe Ashley tists the talks person.
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  Speaker 8: She just doesn't see it.
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  Speaker 5: Isn't that what one of the women is saying.
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  Speaker 4: So well, he's saying that she's the most self obsessed,
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  Speaker 4: tone up person on earth, and other moms tend to
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  Speaker 4: shift their focus to their actual toddlers.
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  Speaker 8: That's what he said.
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  Speaker 4: That it's Ashley's like, it's Ashley's problem.
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  Speaker 6: Oh god, I mean the coming out and writing the
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  Speaker 6: whole blog thing. Yeah, it's a little toxic right there.
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  Speaker 7: Then why can't you have a circle of friends and
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  Speaker 7: something goes Why does it have to go public and
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  Speaker 7: it's like it's your little circle of friends, nobody cares.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, it's public.
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  Speaker 10: Now, hear me out on the mom group thing. There's
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  Speaker 10: two sides to every story, and why does she have
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  Speaker 10: to go public with it? That seems a little toxic
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  Speaker 10: to me to call people out, I mean completely publicly.
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  Speaker 10: She could have gone to them, which she did, but
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  Speaker 10: to call them out publicly, you know, walk away with grace, pride, whatever.
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  Speaker 10: I think they're more to this story and it's in
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  Speaker 10: the nature of women to be this way.
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  Speaker 8: Unfortunately, my husband's getting in.
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  Speaker 4: She didn't actually call them out by me, No she didn't,
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  Speaker 4: but people on social media are piecing together who they think.
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  Speaker 8: The group was.
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  Speaker 6: Now we know that Hillary Duff was one of them.
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  Speaker 8: Now yeah now he confirmed it. Yeah, her husband.
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  Speaker 6: And by the way, I'm not I'm not trying to
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  Speaker 6: say like I would want to do that and publicly
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  Speaker 6: put myself out there like that, but I guess I
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  Speaker 6: understand his motives in support.
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  Speaker 8: Of his wife having her back.
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  Speaker 6: You know, that's a little bit extreme what he's doing,
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  Speaker 6: but I understand it well.
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  Speaker 7: I can to some level understand the mom group because
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  Speaker 7: when you look at the group, none of them really
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  Speaker 7: has anything else going on right now except Megan training.
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  Speaker 5: Megan's pretty busy.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, but Mandy Moore is pretty active too. Right now,
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  Speaker 6: I'm just telling you it's going to be a long time.
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  Speaker 8: Before it's this guy's name, Matthew Coma.
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  Speaker 7: Before he can rediscover his testicles.
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  Speaker 11: Okay, okay, listen, I'm on Billy with this. I'm standing
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  Speaker 11: firm with him. Justin is just trying to get laid
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  Speaker 11: in his pool again.
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  Speaker 3: No way, Justin, you can totally support your wife.
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  Speaker 11: But Hilary Duff's husband went overboard.
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  Speaker 5: I nailed it.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, I honestly think that on.
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  Speaker 4: Both sides of this, like this is just a toxic
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  Speaker 4: group and it just needs to be, you know, just dismantled.
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  Speaker 8: This whole mom group is really ugly.
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  Speaker 7: It never should have never done, you know, But she
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  Speaker 7: nailed you, Justin, because all you care about is saying
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  Speaker 7: or doing nothing that will have Jen say no. At
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  Speaker 7: the end of the day, I just want all you
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  Speaker 7: care about.
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  Speaker 6: That's a little extreme.
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  Speaker 5: You're driven by it.
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  Speaker 6: No, no, no, I just I'm one of those people that's
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  Speaker 6: loyal to my people.
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  Speaker 5: This isn't about someone's messing.
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  Speaker 6: With either of you. I will, I will stand up.
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  Speaker 6: Is anybody messing with you, let me know.
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  Speaker 5: I probably have a list.
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  Speaker 7: I'll put it together.
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  Speaker 6: Put it together. By the way, did he wrote clarity
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  Speaker 6: of that guy? We play that song all the time,
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  Speaker 6: the songs.
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  Speaker 8: Like five minutes songs.
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  Speaker 5: That's interesting.
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  Speaker 7: So now that was a big club song, and it
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  Speaker 7: may still be. I'll ask my nephew, DJ Costa, but
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  Speaker 7: now he can never even walk into a club that's
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  Speaker 7: playing his song.
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  Speaker 6: It's definitely is a little bit extreme.
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  Speaker 5: What's his name was?
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  Speaker 8: I have to remember Matthew Coma with a k.
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  Speaker 5: Okay Coma songwriter. Justin my boy, whatever happened to you?
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  Speaker 12: A street tough kid who spent time in prison is
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  Speaker 12: gonna get involved in your wife's caddy.
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  Speaker 7: Little arguments with her lady friends?
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  Speaker 5: Come on, man, you're better than that.
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  Speaker 7: All right, Captain Mike justin picking up the phone and
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  Speaker 7: calling Jen's friends and yelling at them, I can't believe
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  Speaker 7: what you said.
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  Speaker 5: To my wife. Dude, you cannot do that.
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  Speaker 6: It's hard not to get involved, man, it's hard not
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  Speaker 6: to get involved. But we've been in situations like this before.
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  Speaker 6: I mean I never did anything that extreme, but you know,
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  Speaker 6: you want to make sure they're okay. And you know
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  Speaker 6: he probably sees Hillary duffck upset. That's his wife.
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  Speaker 7: Well, I've bet a lot of people listening right now
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  Speaker 7: have gotten involved.
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  Speaker 4: Well, he's just escalated this now to a new level.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, it's going to keep going from him doing the
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  Speaker 6: story for the next week. It'll get so crazy, Bill
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  Speaker 6: where he'll be like this, I'm not doing them doing
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  Speaker 6: it again.
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  Speaker 8: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: So we were just talking about this drama that absolutely
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  Speaker 2: blew up between Ashley Tisdale, Hillary Duff and a couple
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  Speaker 2: other celebrities because they were in a mom group together
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  Speaker 2: and then everything just went absolutely toxic.
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  Speaker 3: We turn this into our topic time. We were asking
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  Speaker 3: you guys.
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  Speaker 2: Who is right in this situation and should like husbands
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  Speaker 2: be getting involved or no.
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  Speaker 3: It's number four.
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  Speaker 5: Delibrity Duffs involve Megan Trainer.
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  Speaker 4: It blew up on social it was all over all
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  Speaker 4: of the morning show.
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  Speaker 8: She was doing interviews.
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  Speaker 4: Ashley Tisdale talking about how she was in a toxic
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  Speaker 4: mom group with a bunch of other celebrity moms and
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  Speaker 4: and she was left out and she was hurt and
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  Speaker 4: she thought it was too high school, and she texted
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  Speaker 4: all of them and said, I'm done. I hate the
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  Speaker 4: way I'm being treated, and then it kind of went viral.
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  Speaker 4: So now there's like the second part where Hillary Duff's husband,
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  Speaker 4: Matthew Coma has stepped into the fray and he actually
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  Speaker 4: went so far as to photoshop his face on Ashley
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  Speaker 4: Tisdale's body and say that he's giving a mom group
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  Speaker 4: tell all through the father's eyes.
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  Speaker 7: This is like five levels below Real Housewives. It's so crt,
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  Speaker 7: like this is like a new low, a celebrity mom
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  Speaker 7: group and the husband that's getting involved.
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  Speaker 13: Yeah, I don't know. I think that Ashley Tisdale where
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  Speaker 13: that is, I don't know, washed up Disney star or whatever.
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  Speaker 13: She's crying about her toxic mom groups. That's fine, she
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  Speaker 13: didn't name anybody. So Hillary's little Chihuahua husband of hers
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  Speaker 13: going out and making a big deal about it is
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  Speaker 13: literally putting the spotlight on her, Like, yep, my wife,
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  Speaker 13: the bitch, and I really think that was a dumbness.
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  Speaker 4: You know that Hillary was probably crying like I can't
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  Speaker 4: believe they're shaving.
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  Speaker 14: Man.
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  Speaker 8: Then he's like, I'm going to do something about it.
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  Speaker 6: Oh god, he was trying to be support. I don't
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  Speaker 6: support what he did specifically, but I do identify with
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  Speaker 6: the motive behind it.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, support your wife.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, of course, are you going to insert your face
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  Speaker 7: on Jen's stomach, which she and her friend.
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  Speaker 6: She's okay, Hi, Justin.
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  Speaker 15: All I can say is I think Jen, your wife
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  Speaker 15: can probably fight her own battles. She doesn't need you
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  Speaker 15: to step in. I'm sure she knows you are in
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  Speaker 15: her corner. And I don't know Jen, but from what
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  Speaker 15: you say about her, I think she'd probably be okay
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  Speaker 15: handling it herself.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, make no mistake about it. Jen could take Justin
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  Speaker 7: in the street fight.
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  Speaker 6: It's funny you say that. During vacation, we were kind
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  Speaker 6: of playing around a little bit and she gave me
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  Speaker 6: a little playful jab in the arm. My arm was
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  Speaker 6: sore than it was like a little jab. But yeah,
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  Speaker 6: you're right, she'll be okay, she'd be just fine.
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  Speaker 16: Okay, So with the whole Ashley Toosdale thing, I feel
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  Speaker 16: like Hilly Duff's husband just proved Ashley Tisdale's point. The
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  Speaker 16: way that he came out, the pettiness the whole I understand.
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  Speaker 16: I completely am all for protecting and helping out and
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  Speaker 16: offending your spouse, but the way he did it just
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  Speaker 16: proved her point. And she never called out any names,
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  Speaker 16: and he called themselves out.
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  Speaker 5: That is spot on, sad think, So there it is.
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  Speaker 7: That's why Ashley Tisdale stepped out.
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  Speaker 6: But it was still petty what actually Tisdale did, Yeah,
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  Speaker 6: by calling them out, So it's petty on all sides,
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  Speaker 6: and you know what, we're talking about them these days reluctantly.
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  Speaker 4: There's something good that comes out of it because Ashley
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  Speaker 4: Tisdale just shined the light on something that all of
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  Speaker 4: us regular people deal with all the time, especially in
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  Speaker 4: these moms drama. Right, not that all mom groups have drama.
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  Speaker 4: There are some amazing mom groups that are very supportive,
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  Speaker 4: but there are the toxic ones too.
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  Speaker 8: And I think, yeah, I think they bring it home.
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  Speaker 8: I think the conversation is a good one.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I also feel like something that got normalized to talk
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  Speaker 2: about these mom groups is the secret lives of Mormon wives,
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  Speaker 2: which is like has this crazy massive following, and they
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  Speaker 2: are in each other's business constantly, and their husbands get
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  Speaker 2: involved too, so they're always in each other's drama. And
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  Speaker 2: so many people are watching that and being like, well,
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  Speaker 2: that mom group has drama. Now my mom group has drama.
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  Speaker 2: And it's become this whole thing.
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  Speaker 7: So because of secret lives and Mormon wives, there's another
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  Speaker 7: level of mom groups. Yes, yeah, oh boy, So now
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  Speaker 7: they are going to be mom group TV shows.
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  Speaker 8: Well, there already are.
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  Speaker 4: And by the way, she's going to be on the
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  Speaker 4: next Bachelor season emerged That's Rights.
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  Speaker 17: A few years back, Boston Magazine wrote an article titled
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  Speaker 17: Queen Beees or something to that effect, and it was
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  Speaker 17: about a toxic mom group in the South Shore. And
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  Speaker 17: I am pretty sure I know who that article was about,
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  Speaker 17: and I can attest that mom groups can be really,
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  Speaker 17: really toxic and uh, you have to look out for
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  Speaker 17: who your two friends are, just like you did in
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  Speaker 17: high school.
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  Speaker 8: Unfortunately, Wow, it's.
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  Speaker 6: So true Self Shore mom group. You know that was Leset.
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  Speaker 8: I have no idea, but you know some mom groups
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  Speaker 8: I do.
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  Speaker 4: But I mean, my kids are older now, so usually
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  Speaker 4: these mom groups are for like kids that have toddlers
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  Speaker 4: and stuff like that.
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  Speaker 9: Right, Okay, I'm just saying you can be all supportive
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  Speaker 9: of your wife. I would love it if my husband
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  Speaker 9: set up and like defended me and whatever.
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  Speaker 13: But to put your picture on.
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  Speaker 9: Somebody else's body, I just feel like that part's a
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  Speaker 9: little childish.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, that's yeah, we agree with that. Well, let's
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  Speaker 7: face it, little Matthew Cooma's desperate for a little ata.
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  Speaker 4: Well, we always said maybe he should get back into
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  Speaker 4: the studio, you.
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  Speaker 8: Know what I mean, he could get back write another
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  Speaker 8: Clarity do.
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  Speaker 5: Somewhat like he's done nothing since Clarity.
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  Speaker 6: Well, speaking of getting back in the studio.
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  Speaker 8: Isn't it Hillary Duff coming out with a new album soon?
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  Speaker 10: Because we were listening to all our old Bob getting
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  Speaker 10: ready for her new album.
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  Speaker 16: So it's like prom for the new album or is
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  Speaker 16: it bad for the new album.
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  Speaker 2: I'm just curious about that.
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  Speaker 6: Oh interesting.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think you can look at it both ways
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  Speaker 4: that if they're talking about you, it's probably good for
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  Speaker 4: her career.
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  Speaker 6: And she is coming back in the music. We talked,
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  Speaker 6: we did that story.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, but it's looking more and more like she's the
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  Speaker 7: toxic one in the.
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  Speaker 5: In the mom group.
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  Speaker 7: Uh yeah, and as evidenced by her husband, Matthew, And
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  Speaker 7: there might be some other things going.
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  Speaker 5: On as well.
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  Speaker 11: You have to remember that Hilary Duff and her sister
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  Speaker 11: had issues for many years when Hillary Duff married her husband.
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  Speaker 11: So I'm sensing that the husband is toxic himself because
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  Speaker 11: it drove a wedge in between the two sisters for years.
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  Speaker 8: Was that Haley Haley Hailey Duff.
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  Speaker 7: She made an entire career on Lifetime. She's got about
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  Speaker 7: fifty seven movies on Lifetime. Had no idea. I mean,
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  Speaker 7: look at how many movies does Hillary Duff have on Lifetime?
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  Speaker 7: You look it up?
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  Speaker 6: Anyone?
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  Speaker 7: Wait what Hillary or the sister Haley Haley, the Hailey
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  Speaker 7: Duff constantly on Lifetime.
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  Speaker 4: Hillary did one of our kiss concerts, yes recent, I.
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  Speaker 6: Remember that, and you interviewed her backstage.
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  Speaker 18: Phil.
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  Speaker 5: You know what's really weird.
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  Speaker 7: I'm feeling like, now we're a mom group.
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  Speaker 6: Well that's what we do.
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  Speaker 8: We told you you're the toxic one, and.
• 15:41
  Speaker 3: Toxic it's producer Rally.
• 15:43
  Speaker 2: Let's get right into the number three moment because it
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: is something that has absolutely taken over.
• 15:47
  Speaker 3: My world and many of your worlds.
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: We have come to find out and that is the
• 15:52
  Speaker 2: hit show Heated Rivalry. You can watch all six episodes
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: on HBO Max. And when I tell you that this
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: show and these actors have absolutely loan up, Justin and
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: Billy are finally going to watch this show.
• 16:05
  Speaker 3: So we broke it all down for you.
• 16:06
  Speaker 7: There's a show on HBO that is exploding.
• 16:10
  Speaker 5: It's called Heated Rivalry.
• 16:13
  Speaker 7: And the show on HBO is based on a book
• 16:16
  Speaker 7: about two gay NHL players. And our own producer Riley,
• 16:21
  Speaker 7: this is based on a book, and you've already read
• 16:24
  Speaker 7: the book, Riley, Yes.
• 16:25
  Speaker 8: It is.
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: So it's based off a book series by this author,
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: Rachel Reid. It's a six book series, but the show
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: follows the second book about two characters, Shane and Ilia.
• 16:34
  Speaker 4: Okay, and are they based on real life hockey players.
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: So people have alleged that it is based off of
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: two specific players, but that's never been confirmed. And I
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: choose not to believe that, Okay, Okay, because I just
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: don't like the idea of it. Okay, Oh really, I
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: don't like the Well, I like one of the players,
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: but I don't like the other players. I'm like, I'm
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: choosing not to believe that because I don't.
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: Like that flair.
• 16:57
  Speaker 5: Okay, but you're passionate about this show. And I know
• 17:00
  Speaker 5: our phone screen er, Katie and the.
• 17:01
  Speaker 7: Other side studio is also watching the show passionately. So
• 17:04
  Speaker 7: what is it about this show that you're drawing everybody in.
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: Well, it's funny because it was created by a Canadian
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: filming like that has no money. So it was filmed
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: on this place called craved Bud exactly, and HBO Max
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: saw that people were like, we want to see this
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: in the US and in other places. And a week
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: before the first two episodes dropped, HBO Max was like, Okay,
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: we need in on this and they picked it up.
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: I was planning on like.
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: Bootlegging this show, like I was planning on like getting
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: a VPN or something to.
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: Do so I could see it.
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: But it's it was created on no money and it's
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: so good. The actors are completely unknown. They were working
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: as like servers and restaurants before they got these jobs,
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: and they're amazing actors. One of them is Russian. He
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: has this amazing Russian accent. He's from Texas.
• 17:51
  Speaker 4: So the characters, though, are hockey players in the book
• 17:54
  Speaker 4: that develop a loving relationship with each other right behind
• 17:58
  Speaker 4: the scene passionate, right, but behind the scenes their lovers.
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: Yes, so their their rivals, and they're in the book.
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: You know that they are the best players in the league,
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: Like they said that they were going to score fifty goals,
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: like they're the only two that can compete with each other,
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: and things turned.
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: He did so.
• 18:19
  Speaker 4: Rachel read the author said that she did base the
• 18:23
  Speaker 4: characters loosely on the Crosby Sydney Crosby of Vechkin rivalry.
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: Did she confirm that, I haven't. I just read it.
• 18:34
  Speaker 5: Didn't have something going on in the lock.
• 18:36
  Speaker 8: It was just on the ice.
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: It was the rivalry that they had, not behind the scenes.
• 18:41
  Speaker 7: So Hudson Williams is one of the actors. He plays
• 18:44
  Speaker 7: one of the guys in the show, and he was
• 18:46
  Speaker 7: on Fallon last night. And unlike Riley, he never even
• 18:51
  Speaker 7: read the book.
• 18:52
  Speaker 12: We didn't even know about hockey smut and romantics.
• 18:56
  Speaker 7: Like we didn't know that it existed.
• 19:00
  Speaker 12: But I was reading the book, like as the audition
• 19:03
  Speaker 12: process went along, and it was way too long, you know,
• 19:06
  Speaker 12: it took way too long for me.
• 19:07
  Speaker 7: Just to get that call.
• 19:08
  Speaker 12: So by the time I got the call, I was like,
• 19:09
  Speaker 12: finally and just kind of yeah, good.
• 19:11
  Speaker 6: Like this, I am this character.
• 19:13
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I better get this. I've been saying a characters
• 19:16
  Speaker 7: this whole time. Yes, Yes, I'm a hockey stick.
• 19:18
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 19:19
  Speaker 5: And my intimacy garment.
• 19:21
  Speaker 6: Okay, the intimacy garment they call it a.
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: The promos or anything we've ever done in the.
• 19:31
  Speaker 6: History of well, we kind of left that part out.
• 19:34
  Speaker 6: I haven't watched the show yet, but I've heard a
• 19:36
  Speaker 6: lot about it, and I've talked to Riley about it
• 19:38
  Speaker 6: a lot. It's very steamy. There's a lot of gay
• 19:41
  Speaker 6: loving in the.
• 19:42
  Speaker 7: Well, once there's an intimacy garment involved, it's it's steamy, right.
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: Well, so the show takes place over eight years and
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: they're hooking up throughout the entire thing, and obviously they
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: become more there, like eventually there is like a love confession.
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: But again, it takes place over eight years, and they're
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: hockey players. They're both closeted, so it is a topic
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: that is very taboo like it Well.
• 20:06
  Speaker 6: They're playing a masculine sport exactly.
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: There is no out NHL player in the actual god
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: like keep that in mind. Yeah, But and the scenes
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: are very they're very stick.
• 20:18
  Speaker 6: It's like the male version of Hunting Wives.
• 20:20
  Speaker 7: Yes, certain, Yeah, and this Hunts and Williams guy was shocked.
• 20:26
  Speaker 7: He's actually shocked how much the hockey world has embraced
• 20:31
  Speaker 7: this show.
• 20:31
  Speaker 12: That I think for the you know, the kids coming
• 20:34
  Speaker 12: up playing any sort of sport or professional sports, but
• 20:37
  Speaker 12: they get to see, you know, their podcasters who are
• 20:39
  Speaker 12: used to you know, like analyzing this very masculine sport
• 20:46
  Speaker 12: getting to like analyze our show. If there's still a
• 20:48
  Speaker 12: lot of love. I've seen these there's these guys called
• 20:50
  Speaker 12: the Empty Netters, this really cool podcast and they are
• 20:57
  Speaker 12: like they were reacting to our like like the episode six,
• 21:01
  Speaker 12: with like tears in their eyes.
• 21:02
  Speaker 5: They're like getting up and leaving.
• 21:04
  Speaker 6: And like, no, I thought this wasn't this type of show.
• 21:06
  Speaker 5: And yeah, Riley, are you an empty Netter?
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: No?
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: I don't actually follow that podcast. But a crazy thing
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: about him being on Fallon though, is that the NBC
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: security when he was coming in, they said that they
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: hadn't seen that amount of people since Harry's styles.
• 21:27
  Speaker 8: Wow, that's crazy crap. I could see that.
• 21:32
  Speaker 6: Oh man. Yeah, I kept hearing about this show, and
• 21:34
  Speaker 6: you know what's crazy is producer Riley told me about
• 21:36
  Speaker 6: this show on our way to jingle Ball in my
• 21:39
  Speaker 6: car and I'm like, what are you talking about? And
• 21:42
  Speaker 6: then I just over the break I started seeing the
• 21:43
  Speaker 6: show and then I knew it was a big deal.
• 21:45
  Speaker 7: And by the way, the song from the show all
• 21:47
  Speaker 7: the Things she said is also exploding and that song
• 21:50
  Speaker 7: is from two thousand and two. So now, Riley, you
• 22:04
  Speaker 7: also work for the Boston Bruins. So you're at the rink,
• 22:08
  Speaker 7: you're in the garden for hockey games and Bruins games,
• 22:10
  Speaker 7: and when they play the song, what's it like?
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: So actually multiple NHL stadiums have played that song and.
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: People go nuts. They know exactly what it's from.
• 22:21
  Speaker 6: Do they play the original the one we just played
• 22:23
  Speaker 6: all the one because they do a kind of different version,
• 22:25
  Speaker 6: an m version. Which one do they play?
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: I think I've heard both?
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: Okay, I know that the Bruins when we played Montreal
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: they played that And for the people that don't know,
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: in the show, it's Boston and Montreal.
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: That's the rivalry that the two players play for.
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: So when we recently played Montreal, like a couple of
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: weeks ago, they played that song.
• 22:44
  Speaker 7: So I wonder if some of the Bruins in the
• 22:45
  Speaker 7: locker room are saying, Hey, do they know something that
• 22:48
  Speaker 7: we don't know about it one.
• 22:49
  Speaker 6: Of us yeah, or do they feel weird in the
• 22:52
  Speaker 6: locker room saying I watched the show. You know, it's
• 22:55
  Speaker 6: kind of a taboo subject, a little wow, you know
• 22:57
  Speaker 6: what I mean?
• 22:57
  Speaker 7: But it is six episodes on the HBO. And by
• 23:01
  Speaker 7: the way, it's already been renewed for a season two.
• 23:03
  Speaker 6: Did you know that Riley?
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: I did, And they're on the interview circuit right now.
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: The other actor Honor Story is also going to be
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: on seth Meyers next week.
• 23:13
  Speaker 6: Oh my god.
• 23:14
  Speaker 7: And by the way, I will be at the Bruins
• 23:16
  Speaker 7: game in the TD garden tonight.
• 23:18
  Speaker 6: And are you gonna get heated?
• 23:22
  Speaker 7: And I'll be in the broadcast both between the first
• 23:25
  Speaker 7: and second periods. Jenny Johnson, look at you?
• 23:29
  Speaker 6: Look at you?
• 23:30
  Speaker 16: So glad you guys are going to finally talk about
• 23:32
  Speaker 16: heated rivalry. It's such an amazing show, an amazing love story.
• 23:36
  Speaker 8: The actors are phenomenal.
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: Enjoy.
• 23:40
  Speaker 7: Yeah, well, I'll see if there's an amazing heated rivalry
• 23:44
  Speaker 7: going on in the TV garden tonight. Are you going
• 23:46
  Speaker 7: to watch the show? I think I will.
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, welcome back into the Best of Billy and Lisa
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: in the morning.
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: It's producer Riley.
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: I am counting down the top five moments of the
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: week with you, and a video has recently gone viral
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: on TikTok of this girl saying that in is and
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: outs in the dating world in twenty twenty six and.
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: We actually agreed with a lot of this list. It's
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: number two.
• 24:09
  Speaker 7: So with the new year, I guess there are new
• 24:11
  Speaker 7: approaches to dating, Lisa. Yeah, there are, Oh, lord knows
• 24:14
  Speaker 7: some people need them. As we approached the end of
• 24:17
  Speaker 7: last year, I remember Facebook dating suddenly exploded. Dude, my
• 24:21
  Speaker 7: friend is cleaning up on Facebook data.
• 24:23
  Speaker 5: Yes, he's going on.
• 24:24
  Speaker 6: A lot of dates. He's loving it more than tender bumble,
• 24:27
  Speaker 6: all of them.
• 24:28
  Speaker 5: And it's not creepy or anything.
• 24:29
  Speaker 7: It's just fine.
• 24:30
  Speaker 6: Yeah, he's going on he's meeting women, going on dates.
• 24:33
  Speaker 6: He met one that he really likes. But he's like,
• 24:35
  Speaker 6: he's single, you know what I mean. But I didn't
• 24:37
  Speaker 6: see that coming babe, either. But yeah, but yeah, listen,
• 24:41
  Speaker 6: if you're single in your dating going into the new year,
• 24:44
  Speaker 6: maybe you want to change some things. There's a video
• 24:46
  Speaker 6: that's gone viral of a girl talking about what's in
• 24:48
  Speaker 6: and what's out. In twenty twenty.
• 24:49
  Speaker 18: Six, weekend dates are out and we be accepting dates
• 24:53
  Speaker 18: on Tuesday to Thursday. Here, I'm going to do more
• 24:55
  Speaker 18: bits on first dates and less oversharing.
• 24:58
  Speaker 8: Oversharing is literally the number.
• 24:59
  Speaker 18: One mistake that I've made in twenty twenty five, and
• 25:02
  Speaker 18: I know I can do better.
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: Anothery're out staying too long on a first date.
• 25:06
  Speaker 18: We find myself in the position on a first date
• 25:07
  Speaker 18: where like I can't find my way out and going
• 25:09
  Speaker 18: into every single date in twenty twenty six with.
• 25:12
  Speaker 8: A hard out in.
• 25:13
  Speaker 18: Our drink states and out are walking slash coffee dates.
• 25:16
  Speaker 18: So with a drink state, like you're sitting at a table,
• 25:17
  Speaker 18: the waiter comes and they say, oh, do you want
• 25:19
  Speaker 18: a second drink? You can always say no, I have
• 25:20
  Speaker 18: to go home. Also, you go on a coffee date,
• 25:22
  Speaker 18: the cafe is busy, you don't have a place to sit,
• 25:24
  Speaker 18: You're standing outside like it's it's so much easier to
• 25:26
  Speaker 18: just do a drink state. In is making out or
• 25:29
  Speaker 18: having sex on the first date. Only twenty six Out
• 25:31
  Speaker 18: is unfortunately ugly boys, and on so many dates with
• 25:33
  Speaker 18: the ugly boys in twenty twenty five things is that
• 25:35
  Speaker 18: boys are always going to screw you over something might
• 25:37
  Speaker 18: as well be hot. Twenty twenty six. In is ghosting
• 25:39
  Speaker 18: people after the first date. Don't need a paragraph explanation
• 25:42
  Speaker 18: of like why you don't want to.
• 25:43
  Speaker 8: Go out with me. I've been burned by this in
• 25:45
  Speaker 8: the past.
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: First date, you literally don't know the person.
• 25:47
  Speaker 8: There's no first kiss or makeout set.
• 25:49
  Speaker 5: You can go Stum, I'm confused. So sex on the
• 25:52
  Speaker 5: first date is yes?
• 25:53
  Speaker 6: So no, that was an in. Yeah, that was an inn.
• 25:55
  Speaker 8: Yeah, that was definitely an in.
• 25:57
  Speaker 5: Definitely sex on the first day.
• 25:59
  Speaker 6: So at least could run through these again maybe and
• 26:01
  Speaker 6: I can tackle this.
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: She's saying, Okay, she's saying out are coffee dates. Basically,
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: she's saying in or like meeting someone for drinks.
• 26:09
  Speaker 7: Yeah, the coffee kind of confused me. I thought coffee
• 26:11
  Speaker 7: dates were good, well, not really.
• 26:13
  Speaker 6: Sure they were. We talked about that. They were kind
• 26:16
  Speaker 6: of popular for a while. Coffee dates because it's not
• 26:18
  Speaker 6: that much of a commitment. It's a lunch thing, yeah,
• 26:21
  Speaker 6: you know, midday that are going on at night?
• 26:23
  Speaker 8: Okay.
• 26:24
  Speaker 4: Also, out is oversharing according to this moment, which I
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: kind of agree with.
• 26:29
  Speaker 5: And you never talk about like a nex or something.
• 26:31
  Speaker 8: Yeah, no, just yeah, keep it close.
• 26:34
  Speaker 4: She's also said that a heart out is uh sorry,
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: an in is ghosting after the first date if you
• 26:42
  Speaker 4: don't like the person you know, and you don't have
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: to send like a whole like paragraph on why you
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: don't want to see them again.
• 26:48
  Speaker 6: This is just after a first date you meet them
• 26:50
  Speaker 6: one time than right.
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: She's like, you don't have to like get into why
• 26:54
  Speaker 4: just it didn't work out, And then she said out
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: are ugly boys.
• 26:58
  Speaker 7: That was her Yeah, I think she said so.
• 27:01
  Speaker 5: On the first date. It's fine unless they're ugly.
• 27:04
  Speaker 6: Well, our ugly boy were ugly boys. And well last
• 27:07
  Speaker 6: producer Riley is single. She's on the dating apps. Do
• 27:09
  Speaker 6: you agree with this list or what?
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: I actually agree with a lot of it? I think
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: that I understood what she was saying about the coffee dates,
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: like especially when she was like if there's no if
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: you're going to a busy coffee shop and there's nowhere
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: to sit, that's so awkward, Like if you're going to
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: a bar, there's most of the time of place to sit.
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: And then she was saying like, then you have a
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: hard out if a waiter comes over and they're like,
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: you want another drink and you're like not feeling it.
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: You can be like, oh no, I'm good, I gotta go.
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: It's like easier than being like at a coffee shop,
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: you finish your drink.
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: Should we still be sitting here? What are we doing?
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: But the ugly boys thing? I agree? Why would you
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: waste your time on an ugly guy?
• 27:43
  Speaker 5: Well, it's a drink thing.
• 27:44
  Speaker 7: A second drink, though, could make the opponent a little
• 27:47
  Speaker 7: more attractive.
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: I mean, it could really.
• 27:52
  Speaker 7: At least attractive enough just for that.
• 27:55
  Speaker 8: I also agree with her on out weekend dates.
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: I think that meeting some of the first time during
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: the week is actually a much better strategy because then
• 28:03
  Speaker 4: if you like them, then you can make a weekend
• 28:05
  Speaker 4: date for the second date.
• 28:06
  Speaker 8: Exactly.
• 28:07
  Speaker 6: Okay, but what if you like work during the week
• 28:09
  Speaker 6: and weekends are your time where you can date. That
• 28:11
  Speaker 6: would make a weekend date more more sensible and more sensible. Right, yeah,
• 28:16
  Speaker 6: I work, I go out on the weekends, you know.
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: I think what she's saying is that you don't want
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: to waste your weekend, Like if the date is bad,
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: you're wasting your weekend, Like Chapelone said, never waste a
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: Friday night on a bad date, right.
• 28:29
  Speaker 6: Oh, and you don't you don't know what's going to
• 28:31
  Speaker 6: be a bad date exactly.
• 28:32
  Speaker 4: So you go on a on a Tuesday and then
• 28:34
  Speaker 4: then you roll into Friday.
• 28:36
  Speaker 8: With some hope.
• 28:37
  Speaker 5: Chapel Roone said that, Yeah, she has a.
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: Song of red Wine super Nova. She has a lyric
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: in that about it.
• 28:43
  Speaker 5: Okay, I agree with anything Chapel Roone says.
• 28:46
  Speaker 6: So I also have this list here of the ten
• 28:50
  Speaker 6: mistakes that people make with their dating profile. So I
• 28:53
  Speaker 6: was kind of going over these with producer Riley on
• 28:55
  Speaker 6: what she thought about them. Number one is using humor
• 28:58
  Speaker 6: as a shield, So trying to be funny, you.
• 29:02
  Speaker 8: Know, but people like funny.
• 29:04
  Speaker 6: That's what I'm That's what I think. But maybe if
• 29:05
  Speaker 6: you are not funny, but you're trying to be funny,
• 29:08
  Speaker 6: maybe yeah, Like if you're.
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: Not funny in person, then it's like, well who is
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: that guy?
• 29:13
  Speaker 7: Yeah, and you might think you're funnier than you really are.
• 29:15
  Speaker 8: That's the thing, and then you bomb most people do.
• 29:18
  Speaker 6: Yeah, this one's interesting, this one. I think a bill
• 29:21
  Speaker 6: with this one mentioning your pets are kids in a
• 29:24
  Speaker 6: way that dominate your personality, like talking about your dogs?
• 29:28
  Speaker 7: Are you talking about I love?
• 29:32
  Speaker 6: You know, if you're on a first date vill and
• 29:34
  Speaker 6: you're like, he's a good boy.
• 29:37
  Speaker 5: Yeah, no dog baby.
• 29:38
  Speaker 7: Talk on a first date, I think because you never
• 29:40
  Speaker 7: know how they're going to receive it.
• 29:42
  Speaker 6: Okay, So Riley, what if a guy has a picture
• 29:45
  Speaker 6: their profile picture as them and their pet?
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: Okay, so we were talking about this. If you're with
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: your pet, that's fine, but I hate when men have
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: just a picture of their pet, Like, you're only you
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: only have six options for a picture, and you're wasting
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: one on your dog. Yeah, your dog is cute, but
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: I don't care what your dog looks like. I care
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: what you look like exactly.
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: But some of these dating websites use that as a
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: way for people to connect. So if you're a dog
• 30:10
  Speaker 4: person and this person is a dog person, then that's
• 30:12
  Speaker 4: like a check in the right box.
• 30:13
  Speaker 5: But now, because a dog person can't be with a
• 30:15
  Speaker 5: non dog.
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: Person, right, but put a picture of the two of you,
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: you and your dog, just your dog, yeah.
• 30:20
  Speaker 5: Or just leave your dog out of it. It's a
• 30:22
  Speaker 5: first date. They have no right meeting your dog.
• 30:25
  Speaker 6: That's true too, Okay, so the picture with you and
• 30:28
  Speaker 6: your pet, you and your dog, is not just the dog.
• 30:31
  Speaker 8: Yeah, that's what we.
• 30:32
  Speaker 6: Think, right, okay. Also on this list using group images,
• 30:38
  Speaker 6: so meaning your picture is you and like six people.
• 30:41
  Speaker 5: Yeah, oh, like a wedding picture.
• 30:43
  Speaker 6: Like any picture of you and your friends instead of
• 30:45
  Speaker 6: just you.
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: Well, we were saying, me and Katie were actually talking
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: about this because half the time it's a group picture
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: and you're like, that's the hot one, and it's never
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: that guy, it's always his friend. It's the ugliest guy
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: in the picture. That's who you're looking at.
• 30:57
  Speaker 7: That was the first thing I thought of somebody in
• 31:00
  Speaker 7: the picture to say, who's.
• 31:01
  Speaker 8: That right, And you don't know if it's him or
• 31:03
  Speaker 8: not exactly?
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: You're like, your friend is hot?
• 31:05
  Speaker 7: Is he single?
• 31:06
  Speaker 8: Yeah?
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: It's so.
• 31:08
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I know this was the first day and I
• 31:10
  Speaker 7: don't think it's working out.
• 31:11
  Speaker 6: Who's the guy? Yeah, well he's married, you know what
• 31:16
  Speaker 6: I mean? I do like that one. That one's interesting,
• 31:21
  Speaker 6: all right. Last one? Long checklists. Oh those are a
• 31:25
  Speaker 6: definite no no. So when you have checklists in your bio,
• 31:29
  Speaker 6: you know what I mean? So about you, Yeah, it's
• 31:31
  Speaker 6: very long with things you're looking for. I'm looking for
• 31:33
  Speaker 6: this and that that is.
• 31:34
  Speaker 4: Such a red flag. Yeah, because you're never going to
• 31:37
  Speaker 4: be all those check marks.
• 31:38
  Speaker 7: Yeah, exactly.
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: Well, can we go back real quick to the kissing
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: and sex on the first date, because I mean sex
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: is obviously like in the moment, if you want to
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: have sex with him, go ahead. I fully agree with
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: the kissing thing because I want on a date. Sem
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: I recently with the guy and he was a bad.
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: Kisser, so I didn't go out with him again.
• 31:56
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, I have to say, I think kissing
• 32:00
  Speaker 4: on a first date is totally fine.
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: It's important to me.
• 32:04
  Speaker 7: What was bad about there was too much tongue?
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like we were just there was it was ampatibility, right,
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: Like we kissed it differently, and it was like, I'm
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: not going to spend the time to make you a
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: good kisser to me, Like you might be a good
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: kisser to.
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: Somebody else, but you're not for me.
• 32:20
  Speaker 5: You're a good kisser.
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: Maybe that's and that's fine. That's why we didn't go
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: out again.
• 32:23
  Speaker 7: You weren't compatible in that egg exactly?
• 32:26
  Speaker 6: What was he like? Too aggressive? Was he an aggressive kiss.
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: A lot of tongue?
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: And that's not to say that that's not always good.
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: It just wasn't working for me, and I was like,
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: I'm not going out with you again.
• 32:36
  Speaker 6: Sorry, what you want to ease into it?
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: It me.
• 32:39
  Speaker 6: There's your little tongue before you just kiss without tongue,
• 32:44
  Speaker 6: Well you can do.
• 32:45
  Speaker 4: It depends on how much this was like, depends on
• 32:48
  Speaker 4: a lot of facts.
• 32:48
  Speaker 8: There was a lot.
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: So just a couple of minutes ago, we were talking
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: about this girl who went viral describing her ins and
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: outs for dating in twenty twenty six. We actually agreed
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: with a lot of this list, but we wanted to
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: hear what you guys thought, because dating is hard.
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: And we do not need to lower our standards. This
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: is the number one moment.
• 33:09
  Speaker 5: This whole trends with the dating thing.
• 33:11
  Speaker 17: I don't know if I agree with it, but maybe
• 33:13
  Speaker 17: it's because I'm old fool, or maybe it's because I'm
• 33:15
  Speaker 17: married now, but I feel like just ghosting someone.
• 33:19
  Speaker 16: Is just a little too rough.
• 33:23
  Speaker 5: I would like to know why I am not.
• 33:25
  Speaker 7: Good enough and so I can fix it.
• 33:27
  Speaker 16: Like I don't need a paragraph but an explanation, and
• 33:30
  Speaker 16: like I don't put out on the first date.
• 33:32
  Speaker 7: That's just you need you guys love to work. Charge
• 33:34
  Speaker 7: you know what I'm saying.
• 33:37
  Speaker 5: Definitely doesn't put out in the first date. And I
• 33:39
  Speaker 5: think a lot of people.
• 33:40
  Speaker 6: I mean, look, if you go out on a first date,
• 33:42
  Speaker 6: it doesn't work. You met them one time, I don't
• 33:45
  Speaker 6: see the big deal and just like walking away.
• 33:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think you can say, you know, it's just
• 33:49
  Speaker 4: you're just it's just not a good time.
• 33:51
  Speaker 5: But do you say it.
• 33:52
  Speaker 4: I think you just say I just don't think that
• 33:54
  Speaker 4: this is going to move forward.
• 33:55
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm not connecting.
• 33:56
  Speaker 8: I'm just not connecting.
• 33:57
  Speaker 6: Yeah, you ghost, that's the whole point. You don't say nothing.
• 34:00
  Speaker 5: But how do you leave the date? Do you actually
• 34:02
  Speaker 5: say you know?
• 34:02
  Speaker 19: Why?
• 34:03
  Speaker 6: Why don't we just walk away? I saw a thing
• 34:04
  Speaker 6: online yesterday. This girl posted so she hooked up with
• 34:08
  Speaker 6: this guy. He came over and slept over. They hooked
• 34:11
  Speaker 6: up and she had two kids, two small children. So
• 34:14
  Speaker 6: when they woke up in the morning, the guy saw
• 34:16
  Speaker 6: the kids and he asked everyone if they wanted McDonald's
• 34:19
  Speaker 6: for breakfast. So they said yeah. The kids gave their order,
• 34:22
  Speaker 6: the girl gave us already said no problem. He left,
• 34:24
  Speaker 6: never came back.
• 34:26
  Speaker 8: Oh my god, that's horrible. It's horrible.
• 34:31
  Speaker 7: Oh my god, why do that like, why involved the kids,
• 34:37
  Speaker 7: get them all excited. They didn't do it at all.
• 34:39
  Speaker 4: Day.
• 34:40
  Speaker 6: Yeah. Well, in twenty twenty six, according to that list,
• 34:43
  Speaker 6: ugly guys, ugly boys are out. That's what she said.
• 34:46
  Speaker 16: Ugly guys should always be in.
• 34:48
  Speaker 8: They treat you so much better.
• 34:50
  Speaker 14: I fell for two different ugly guys.
• 34:53
  Speaker 8: They treated me so well. Then I met my husband,
• 34:56
  Speaker 8: who was gorgeous. Yeah, not treating me so great.
• 35:00
  Speaker 6: Oh I love this. I love that woman.
• 35:03
  Speaker 7: Thanks your current husband. She's talking about.
• 35:06
  Speaker 6: Well, I don't know, I shouldn't say, but for all
• 35:09
  Speaker 6: the guys with an ugly guy, you know, for all
• 35:12
  Speaker 6: the guys that are like super good, you know, lookers
• 35:15
  Speaker 6: like myself, I love that.
• 35:17
  Speaker 8: Stop saying that.
• 35:19
  Speaker 6: I'm just saying. I'm just saying, dude, no, no, you
• 35:21
  Speaker 6: know what I mean. Yes, some people are very very
• 35:24
  Speaker 6: good looking, you know, and others aren't. Not so much
• 35:28
  Speaker 6: so ugly guys in outs whatever.
• 35:30
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 35:31
  Speaker 19: Something that really just irks me on dating apps is
• 35:34
  Speaker 19: about the dogs. When people say prow dog dad looking
• 35:38
  Speaker 19: for a dog mom like you, that's just such a
• 35:41
  Speaker 19: weir I just that turns me off. That's just a
• 35:43
  Speaker 19: weird line, you know.
• 35:45
  Speaker 7: Yeah, it's very Karenish, like, what's the guy name for
• 35:49
  Speaker 7: Karen's Chad. It's very chad like. You don't say that, Hey,
• 35:54
  Speaker 7: I'm a dog dad looking for a dog mom. That
• 35:57
  Speaker 7: can come up later if you go out on a date,
• 35:59
  Speaker 7: but don't make this all you have going on.
• 36:02
  Speaker 6: Yeah, it's yeah, Liza, you see a dating profile and has.
• 36:06
  Speaker 4: That in the I think it's a little too much
• 36:08
  Speaker 4: looking for me. And it's nice to have a dog
• 36:10
  Speaker 4: in your life and stuff like that, but if that's like.
• 36:12
  Speaker 7: Your only thing, yeah, I mean it can come up
• 36:14
  Speaker 7: later in.
• 36:14
  Speaker 6: The exactly looking for a mom.
• 36:16
  Speaker 8: I can see Billy though on a date.
• 36:18
  Speaker 7: Oh yeah, yeah, he's a good boy.
• 36:21
  Speaker 6: He's looking for his mom. He wants his mommy. Titus
• 36:24
  Speaker 6: needs his mommy.
• 36:25
  Speaker 20: One time, my brother asked me to send him a
• 36:28
  Speaker 20: picture of my dog because he said that he was
• 36:31
  Speaker 20: feeling sad and that he could use a pick me up.
• 36:33
  Speaker 20: And I sent it to him and I found out
• 36:35
  Speaker 20: later that he used it in his dating profile as like.
• 36:39
  Speaker 7: Girlby Yeah, there is a level of creepiness out there.
• 36:44
  Speaker 5: It's extraordinary to me.
• 36:45
  Speaker 6: So on this show, Lisa, you'll remember this. Many years
• 36:48
  Speaker 6: ago it was discovered that a random person, a listener
• 36:52
  Speaker 6: that took a picture with Billy Costa and event was
• 36:54
  Speaker 6: using that picture as that tender profile.
• 36:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah to me, like next level creepy.
• 37:00
  Speaker 7: By the way, there are a couple of others too.
• 37:01
  Speaker 4: Do you think he's lying to be like to dates
• 37:04
  Speaker 4: that he's like, you guys are best friends?
• 37:06
  Speaker 7: You know that's a good question, Like is he playing
• 37:09
  Speaker 7: it up like he and I are tight? Like I've
• 37:12
  Speaker 7: never met him. Well, if somebody asks, no the guy
• 37:17
  Speaker 7: there's a guy who stole my identity, that's something else.
• 37:20
  Speaker 8: Dieparent.
• 37:21
  Speaker 5: And he was showing pictures. He was acting like he
• 37:23
  Speaker 5: was on my.
• 37:24
  Speaker 7: TV show and like it was no the iHeart Lawyers
• 37:27
  Speaker 7: because he was selling started.
• 37:29
  Speaker 21: Selling ads, like like he was calling companies that actually
• 37:35
  Speaker 21: advertised with kiss, telling them why spend all that money
• 37:38
  Speaker 21: you can advertise with me, right.
• 37:41
  Speaker 5: And pretending to be me Like it was so creepy.
• 37:44
  Speaker 5: The lawyers had got.
• 37:45
  Speaker 8: His own countdown list.
• 37:47
  Speaker 5: Oh yes, yes, his wedding list, his favorite wedding.
• 37:50
  Speaker 7: Songs, and like I said, I've never put together a
• 37:52
  Speaker 7: list of wedding songs.
• 37:54
  Speaker 6: I got to tell you something.
• 37:54
  Speaker 5: He could be listening right now. I'm a fan.
• 37:58
  Speaker 7: You know, like, if you're listening, buddy Peel, please call in. Yeah,
• 38:01
  Speaker 7: that's we have a new phone number eight seven seven
• 38:04
  Speaker 7: six seven.
• 38:08
  Speaker 6: I mean that is dedication.
• 38:10
  Speaker 7: You got to respect the hustles.
• 38:11
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 38:12
  Speaker 14: Can we talk like real quick about guys taking selfies
• 38:17
  Speaker 14: in the car, Like I don't understand where you're going
• 38:21
  Speaker 14: or like what kind of car you job?
• 38:24
  Speaker 10: I don't know.
• 38:24
  Speaker 14: I just I don't get it. And like at least
• 38:29
  Speaker 14: eighty percent of dudes have selfies of them in their car.
• 38:33
  Speaker 7: Help me understand.
• 38:34
  Speaker 4: Okay, Well, I think that's because a lot of guys
• 38:37
  Speaker 4: just don't take selfies. They just don't and so they're
• 38:40
  Speaker 4: not savvy on social media.
• 38:42
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I can't be friends with guys that take selfies.
• 38:47
  Speaker 5: I'll go on what do you Do?
• 38:48
  Speaker 6: I'll go on some guys pages and it's like just
• 38:50
  Speaker 6: selfie after selfie after selfie.
• 38:52
  Speaker 8: Yeah at the gym gym.
• 38:55
  Speaker 7: Oh quickly, since we're on the topic of selfies, I
• 38:58
  Speaker 7: thought about this on vacation again. You need to answer
• 39:00
  Speaker 7: this question for me. It could be Riley, it could
• 39:02
  Speaker 7: be Lisia, it could be you. Justin the selfie thing
• 39:05
  Speaker 7: when women take the selfie with the lip thing, Yeah,
• 39:08
  Speaker 7: the lip thing. Why does that happen? Because you could
• 39:11
  Speaker 7: be a good looking person and now you're no.
• 39:13
  Speaker 5: Longer good looking?
• 39:14
  Speaker 7: Like, what is the how did that start?
• 39:16
  Speaker 5: What does it mean?
• 39:17
  Speaker 8: Well?
• 39:17
  Speaker 4: I mean I think for me, I always think of
• 39:20
  Speaker 4: the Kardashians because that's exactly how they take their selfie.
• 39:24
  Speaker 8: But waver and over and over it.
• 39:26
  Speaker 5: Why does it exist?
• 39:27
  Speaker 6: I mean, I guess it just kind of shows your
• 39:29
  Speaker 6: lips a little bit more. It's just a not your list.
• 39:32
  Speaker 7: What do you mean they're like shooting them out like doc. Yeah,
• 39:36
  Speaker 7: I just want to know why it exists.
• 39:38
  Speaker 5: And I don't know why. It really aggravates me, but
• 39:41
  Speaker 5: it does.
• 39:41
  Speaker 6: I thought it kind of went away. Oh no, and
• 39:43
  Speaker 6: you still see it, but it was really popular for
• 39:46
  Speaker 6: a while. Want to hear an interesting story. One time
• 39:48
  Speaker 6: I was doing an event for Jamming years ago and
• 39:51
  Speaker 6: the rapper Big Sean was one of the performers, and
• 39:53
  Speaker 6: I took a picture with him backstage, and right before
• 39:56
  Speaker 6: the picture was taken, he said, he whispered to me,
• 39:58
  Speaker 6: he goes, let's do like an angry look. And I
• 40:00
  Speaker 6: panicked and I did the duck face, the duck lips,
• 40:03
  Speaker 6: and you did the have the picture. It's like it's
• 40:06
  Speaker 6: a hard miiliate.
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: Well, it's the second Saturday of twenty twenty six and
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: that's another best of Billy and Lisa in the Morning.
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: Done its producer Riley. Thanks for hanging with me this morning.
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  Speaker 2: And on Monday morning, we are bringing back Secret Sound
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  Speaker 2: seven ten and a ten your chance to win your
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• 40:36
  Speaker 3: Give us a call Monday morning. But for now, the
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