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- 0:00What is going on, beautiful folks?
- 0:03Today we're going to be talking about what creates a narcissist.
- 0:06What causes narcissist? If you're new here, my name is
- 0:10Lee Hammock. I'm a self aware diagnosed
- 0:12narcissist. Welcome to another episode of
- 0:14The Narcissist Code. Welcome back, folks.
- 0:33Welcome back. Welcome back.
- 0:34Yes, yes, yes. What causes narcissists?
- 0:37What creates a narcissist? So if you're dealing, if, you
- 0:40know, narcissistic people, talk to people.
- 0:42I know a lot of people hear that narcissists are created through
- 0:45trauma and all the other stuff like that.
- 0:47Yeah, which is true. But then today we're going to be
- 0:49talking about two different ways that narcissists could possibly
- 0:54be created. Wait, maybe a third, maybe a
- 0:58maybe a third. That's about 3, maybe three,
- 0:59maybe three, maybe 3. Y'all see, I don't have a script
- 1:02for this. It's just I get a topic and I
- 1:04go. So yesterday I had the pleasure
- 1:06of being on a radio show in Canada, on a a radio show in
- 1:11Canada yesterday. And guess who else was on the
- 1:14show? Doctor Romney.
- 1:15I was like, ah, so I got to answer some questions with
- 1:18Doctor Romney on a radio show in Canada.
- 1:21It was pretty cool yesterday and I tell y'all, I was super
- 1:25nervous. I don't know if it's it's going
- 1:26to be replayed or anything like that, but honestly, I can say I
- 1:29was super, super nervous. But I got a chance to hear her
- 1:33answer some questions from her, you know, her background and
- 1:36whatnot and psychology and her degrees and all the other stuff,
- 1:39the wealth and knowledge that she provided.
- 1:42But it was a, it was a good, it was a good show.
- 1:45It's called Just Asking in Canada on CBC.
- 1:49But somebody asked her like what creates a narcissist?
- 1:51And she gave, you know, she said, you know, most people or
- 1:54like she gave, you know, the, the, the an excellent answer.
- 1:58I'm just going to go to jump from my perspective on the Ozes
- 2:00as well. So the first way the narcissists
- 2:02are created, it's probably going to be the way that most that
- 2:05most people hear about, right? The first way the narcissists
- 2:08are created is going to be through drama.
- 2:12Yes. Trauma and neglect create
- 2:14narcissistic people. I know a lot of people ask me,
- 2:17Lee Lee, what made you a narcissist?
- 2:18Like what? What what was through and what
- 2:21was thrown into the the witch's brew?
- 2:24The witch's brew, the the cauldron that created you, What
- 2:28was thrown in there, like, hit us with it.
- 2:30Yeah. It was trauma and neglect.
- 2:32More neglect than trauma. You know what I mean?
- 2:35It's more neglect and lack of validation and things of that
- 2:38nature that caused me to possibly have this personality
- 2:41disorder, right? Like I had it, my, my dad was
- 2:45there. It wasn't like the, the
- 2:46prototypical stereo stereotypical story.
- 2:48The black man abandoned his, his, his offspring.
- 2:51No, he was there. He's just just neglectful.
- 2:54That's why I was, when I asked people the question, I was like,
- 2:56what's worse for a person? You know what's worse being ask
- 3:01people what's worse? Being neglected or having a
- 3:04neglectful parent or an absent parent.
- 3:06Both are both can be traumatizing, right?
- 3:09But I feel like sometimes having this is my own because this is
- 3:11my own personal experience. Having a neglectful parent can
- 3:16suck worse because they're they are there, they are around, you
- 3:19see them. It's just like they don't care,
- 3:23you know? Like nothing you do for this
- 3:25person makes them happy. Nothing you do for them gets any
- 3:27type of validation. They just kind of look at you
- 3:29and stare at you or just ignore you and whatever.
- 3:32So you never get the validation that you're seeking, that you're
- 3:34searching for from this person, that you from your caretaker,
- 3:37from somebody who birthed you, somebody that you look like, you
- 3:40know what I mean? So that could create a
- 3:41narcissist. You know, he was active, but
- 3:43yeah, he used to do some, you know, I feel like there was some
- 3:46physical abuse back in the day, like, you know, just whoop
- 3:48whoopings, so to speak, right? You get whoopings back in, back
- 3:51in the day. And that's super frowned upon
- 3:54now. But back in the day that's, you
- 3:55know, that was, that was, that was the way things went.
- 3:58So definitely whoopings. But it it's just weird being
- 4:01whooped by somebody who wasn't there for you emotionally, who
- 4:06wasn't, who didn't validate you at all, who did, who wasn't, you
- 4:09know, who didn't help you out pretty much do anything for you
- 4:11but pay child support. Like, like they had that type of
- 4:14person put their hands on you to try to, you know, to try to
- 4:18punish you or to try to put you in your place is kind of wild.
- 4:22So that's traumatizing as well. You know, having a neglectful
- 4:25parent that's also, you know, whooping you or being physically
- 4:28abusive as people will look at it right now is traumatizing,
- 4:33right? And that's that's what happened
- 4:35to me. I just had a neglectful,
- 4:37physically, sometimes physically abusive parent on the side.
- 4:40You know, my mom, she works 2nd shift.
- 4:43Love my Mama. I know people ask me, people
- 4:45always ask me about my relationship with my mom.
- 4:48People ask me about my relationship with my mom and I
- 4:49tell them like, I love my Mama, my Mama is my Mama.
- 4:54I love my Mama and that the way we change that.
- 4:58Well, she worked 2nd shift. She did what she had to do to
- 4:59take care of her kids and whatnot.
- 5:01So but you know, we, she worked 2nd shift for the majority to
- 5:04fight for the, she was like 19 years old, which is those
- 5:08formative years and whatnot. But she wasn't neglectful.
- 5:11She was there. She did everything she had to
- 5:13do. It was just like, you know, you
- 5:15want to get approval from your father and he just didn't give
- 5:17it to me, you know what I mean? But my brother didn't get it
- 5:20either. I have a twin brother.
- 5:21He didn't get it either. He's not a narcissist.
- 5:22So I think it's your perception and how your mind forms around
- 5:27it, how your mind perceives the trauma that you experience and
- 5:30your mind perceives the neglect that you experience, Right?
- 5:33So that's what happened to me. My mind perceived it differently
- 5:36than my twin brother who was in the exact same situation that I
- 5:38was in. You know, he's not a narcissist.
- 5:40He hasn't been clinically diagnosed with personality
- 5:42disorder. You know, I have.
- 5:44That's me. I have this.
- 5:45And we grew up in the same household, same parents, twins,
- 5:49fraternal twins, identical. He's not a narcissist.
- 5:51So it's just that I think your perception to your events and
- 5:54how your mind wraps around it. My mind went into shutdown mode.
- 5:58His didn't, He's open, he's empathetic.
- 6:00He he's a school teacher in Charlotte, NC.
- 6:02He's a school teacher in the coach.
- 6:04The kids love him. He loves that, you know, he's
- 6:06fulfilled doing that. And I love that for him.
- 6:09You know, I look up, look up to my twin brother.
- 6:11I admire him and his happiness and whatnot.
- 6:13I love that for him. We both have two kids.
- 6:16It's kind of crazy. So it's just like, you know, we
- 6:18both, you know, I have 3 kids, he has two.
- 6:21But it's wild. But that's the space that so
- 6:22many people fall into right there.
- 6:23Y'all Like seriously? Like trauma neglect can create a
- 6:26narcissist. Absolutely.
- 6:29But also we can also create a narcissist is then this Doctor
- 6:33Romney kind of dropped the bomb on me yesterday.
- 6:35I knew about the trauma part, but she dropped this bomb
- 6:38yesterday on an interview. She said not only can trauma do
- 6:44it, but also people not no boundaries.
- 6:49Like if you have a parent that is enabling your behavior, bad
- 6:53behaviors as a child, that can create a narcissist as well.
- 6:59That can create a narcissistic can turn you into a narcissist
- 7:03as well. People never tell you no.
- 7:05And you have you have a parent that's always saying you're
- 7:07better than everybody, baby, you're the best thing ever.
- 7:09Nobody's ever going to be better than you.
- 7:11Like they enable your behaviors. They don't set any type of
- 7:14boundaries on you. Your parents don't tell you no.
- 7:16It's like this. You ever hear the the there was
- 7:19a crime a a car, a guy got drunk years ago and caused a car crash
- 7:26when he unalived like four or five people and he end up
- 7:30getting away with it pretty much didn't go to jail because of the
- 7:35judge called it affluenza just created some mess.
- 7:38Affluenza say, oh, he'd never he never had boundaries on him and
- 7:42his parents gave him everything. He'd never heard the word no, So
- 7:44he didn't know drinking and driving.
- 7:45What if he did end up UN alive and like four people and and got
- 7:50away with it? And that's how narcissistic is
- 7:52that He got away with being spoiled.
- 7:55He got away with a crime for but he he was spoiled as a child and
- 7:58never, nobody ever told him no. He never had boundaries on him
- 8:01and he's, you know, he made a mistake and took took so many
- 8:04people's lives. It was free.
- 8:06That's set free. It's crazy.
- 8:07It was a wild and I remember that, remember that.
- 8:10And just like that's narcissistic because I think
- 8:12very recently, very recently, he maybe a couple years ago, he got
- 8:15arrested again for drinking. He's one of the, one of the
- 8:18things he couldn't do was drink. He just get arrested again for
- 8:20drinking. Just like that's narcissistic.
- 8:23Like your parents don't set banners and you don't, they
- 8:25don't tell you no, they don't guide you in the right
- 8:27direction. They just let you get away with
- 8:28everything because you're so special, because you're this,
- 8:31you're that nobody. You know, you know, you can't do
- 8:34anything wrong. You're right about everything,
- 8:36baby. You're my special boy.
- 8:38You're my special little girl. And then you become a narcissist
- 8:41through that as well. You see, they opened my eyes
- 8:44yesterday when doctor, I heard Doctor Romney say that and it
- 8:47was, I was like, damn, I didn't know that was I kind of heard
- 8:50that before, but I didn't know. Like she explained it in such a
- 8:52way that made it made sense to me.
- 8:54And I was like, Dang, that's so true within this space and
- 8:56whatnot. Like you can't, I can understand
- 8:59how nobody ever said any mountains on you.
- 9:01Nobody ever telling you no can create a a level of narcissism
- 9:05in you. They can't.
- 9:06You can't subside like you can't get away from.
- 9:09I get that. I was like, damn, that is so
- 9:11true. And that just shook my mind a
- 9:13little bit. Y'all, I was like damn, shout
- 9:14out. Doctor Romney got out to the the
- 9:16show on CBC just asking for having a song and whatnot.
- 9:20We got to hear that. And I was like, oh, first time I
- 9:22got to I was super nervous. I ain't gonna lie to you.
- 9:24First time I got to work with Doctor Romney on anything.
- 9:25But this is cool. Like I said, it was just cool.
- 9:27I understand why it hasn't happened.
- 9:28But anyway, that was cool. I was like, I was super nervous
- 9:31in the background. Oh please.
- 9:32Lovely. But it was pretty cool though,
- 9:36Yeah. And the I know I told you, I
- 9:39told you I was going to give you all three reasons three ways a
- 9:41narcissist created, right. So this is going to be the bonus
- 9:44reason, the bonus reason right here there could there be a
- 9:48genetic component to passing down a personality disorder or
- 9:51personality traits? Because my story, I know most of
- 9:55y'all know my story. If y'all follow me for any
- 9:56period of time that yeah, my my dad was probably narcissistic in
- 10:01and of itself, but is he? I have trouble believing that
- 10:04he's a full blown narcissist. I just think he had trauma as a
- 10:09child. Let me tell you about his trauma
- 10:10as a child. His father unaligned himself
- 10:15when he was 27 years old. When no, when my grandpa was 27
- 10:18years old, he had three kids, decided on on Monday morning,
- 10:225:30 AM, got up, didn't go to work, took his own, took hisself
- 10:27out of here. And I'm pretty sure my dad was
- 10:29in the house, found him and they traumatized him at 7 or 8 years
- 10:33old. You see, seven or eight years
- 10:35old, he got traumatized. There's no, this is in the early
- 10:3970s, but there's no therapy for a little black boy and little
- 10:42boys overall in the 70s go to school.
- 10:46Oh, your father passed away on Monday back probably back in the
- 10:49school on Wednesday or Thursday or maybe even Monday, who knows,
- 10:52maybe Tuesday or Wednesday. So sometime that week back in
- 10:55the school. And that's the type of stuff
- 10:57that happened and you don't get help.
- 11:00You grow up as a you have a traumatized child that grow up
- 11:03as a traumatized adult and you don't getting any type of help.
- 11:06You don't work past that. You don't work through that.
- 11:08You don't talk it out. So you just grow up, have kids,
- 11:12be neglectful towards them, traumatize them and you pass it
- 11:15down. Not talking my therapist about
- 11:17that, but my grandfather underlieved themselves and she
- 11:19said my grandfather maybe had some schizophrenic traits.
- 11:24Yeah, maybe it was, had some schizophrenic, maybe he was
- 11:27undiagnosed schizophrenic and just, you know, 27 years old
- 11:30just decided it was, you know, the voices and decided it, it
- 11:33was time to go, you know, it was time.
- 11:39So there could be a genetic component to it as well.
- 11:41I I say I'm not a geneticist, I'm not a physicist.
- 11:44I don't, you know, have any experience in that realm.
- 11:47But just for me, what I've been through, what I've discovered
- 11:50over the last, you know, damn, it's been almost almost eight
- 11:54years now. Eight years next week of digging
- 11:56deeper into this dynamic and the mindset.
- 11:59It's opened my eyes up to a lot of different things, y'all.
- 12:01But anyway, I'm gonna cut this thing short if y'all don't know
- 12:04already. November 2nd and November 3rd
- 12:07will be, yeah, November 2nd. November 3rd will be in Dallas
- 12:10and Houston, TX for our next in person workshops.
- 12:13Dallas and Houston, TX for our next hidden from Narcissistic
- 12:17Abuse workshops. See it right here.
- 12:20You see it right there? I'm gonna put it on the screen
- 12:22too. I gotta put it on the screen.
- 12:24You can find every more information at
- 12:26mentalillness.net/events. On the bottom of the screen
- 12:29right now, but NIA, Renee and myself will be in Houston, TX
- 12:33and Dallas, TX. Dallas, TX on the second,
- 12:35Houston on the 3rd. For our next in person workshop,
- 12:38we had like 35 people show up to the last one and that was Maxi.
- 12:40That was the maximum that can fit in that room.
- 12:42So we we doing a maximum of like 40 to 50 in this one.
- 12:46There's a bunch of people registered.
- 12:48You can check it out right here. Go to mentalillness.net/events.
- 12:50Registered for Dallas, registered for Houston right
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