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The Ugly Truth About AI Water Use · Man in America Podcast

• 0:13
  Speaker 1: And the United Nations just released a report declaring the world has officially entered what they call a global water bankruptcy. Now this is a term that they've never used before. And one of their biggest reasons why is something that most people never thought about before, data centers. These facilities use so much water for cooling that some are compared to a car that's constantly on fire needing an endless supply of water that never stops day or night. My guest today is Michael Dillon.
• 0:46
  Now while most people are just waking up to this crisis, he's been studying air and water contamination for years, and he's built a lot of really real solutions that families are using right now in their homes. Now it doesn't matter if you live in a big city or way out in the country like I do. Chances are that your water comes from the same underground source that's being drained faster than it can refill. And if what the UN report is hinting at comes true, water rationing control could be coming to your own home sooner than you think. And in this interview, we're gonna make sure that you've got the knowledge to be ready for it.
• 1:21
  Welcome to Man in America, a voice of reason in a world gone mad. I'm your host, Seth Holehouse. On this show, we talk to real Americans with real solutions. We help you connect what's happening today to decisions powerful people made in the past so we can learn from it and build something better. Now before we start, please hit that like button.
• 1:40
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• 1:57
  Alright. Let's get into this conversation now with my good friend, Michael Dillon. Michael, man, it's good to have you back on the show. It's been quite some time, but I'm looking forward to getting in this discussion with you. So thanks for being here, man.
• 2:10
  Speaker 2: Absolutely, man. And I'm glad to see that they have, eased up on you, man. I'm starting to see you on YouTube again, which is incredible. I was like,
• 2:16
  Speaker 1: Oh, I'm that's good to hear. Yeah. Yeah. You know, we, we brought in this consultant that has been trying to help us and and kinda looking at at first, we're looking, okay. Hey.
• 2:27
  Are we shadow banned? And, I think we definitely were, but then he's he's just helped us kind of in changing in how we're doing a lot of things and helped us learn better about how the algorithm works. So we've actually I think we had one video a month or two ago that got over half a million views, which was unheard of for our our channel. So, anyway, it's good because as much as I don't like YouTube as a company, that's where the big audience is. I mean, I love Rumble, and they're great.
• 2:56
  And we've got a great audience there, but, you know, you're not gonna get to have a 10,000,000 view viral video on Rumble, right, versus the opportunity on on YouTube. So, anyway, anyway, glad to see that you're you're noticing us more.
• 3:08
  Speaker 2: Yes. 100%. It's been it's been incredible to see kind of, get into like you said, you know, that's that's where the audience is. You know? As much as we love Rumble and we love, all the other platforms, YouTube is is is really where a lot of people go to for for information.
• 3:23
  Speaker 1: Well, it's also where a lot of the more just mainstream is. I mean, Rumble is somewhat of an echo chamber. Right? You know, same way that, you know, certain platforms are. And it's not a bad thing.
• 3:32
  Right? It's a great audience there. But part of what I'm trying to do is just get this information out to the mass public. Right? Try to get Yeah.
• 3:39
  You know, like, Rumble, that means they know about technocracy. They know about, you know, depopulation agendas. And but, you know, the key, I think, is really trying to get the people that are just maybe they just heard about it one time, and they find this video. It's like, oh my gosh. This guy's explained why the data centers are just this fundamental part of a a technocratic plan that's been happening in in motion since the thirties.
• 4:02
  Right? So and and I guess, you know, getting into that, I think that data centers is something that I'd I'd love to kinda hear your take on because I know that you're I know how you think, and you really kinda dig into things, and you investigate on your own to come to your own conclusions. And so, but you're also a great person in my Rolodex for just someone that I go to that you understand air and and and water and pollution and how these things actually affect us, but not like in the you know, I'm a chemist. I've studied these things, but, you know, like, hey. This is the agenda, angle.
• 4:37
  And so yeah. So I guess looking at data centers, what's your what's your overall take on them? And then we'll we'll kinda dive in from there.
• 4:44
  Speaker 2: I mean, I think it's kinda like, you know and and, again, I I I don't wanna say anything out there that's gonna get you and I shadow banned. I would love to have a lot of this information get out there on on YouTube. But it's kinda like during COVID. Right? When when people stopped calling a certain thing what they wanted you to push the word as, you know, when when we start talking about these data centers.
• 5:06
  And I understand when you look at it from like a military perspective, they're telling you that we're in a race with China. Right? We're in a race. We're not a race. We've won.
• 5:15
  We have more data centers than all the other countries that are out there. If you took the three people trying to catch up to us, they don't have more data centers. And these aren't new. Been around since the seventies and eighties. I think that what we are looking at here is a mass surveillance system.
• 5:32
  I think it's being guised as public, you know, safety and, you know, we're out there to catch the bad guys. We've interviewed countless people who have had, you know, feds knock at their door with flock cameras that show up and say, you know, your your car was registered coming in out of this neighborhood multiple times, and there's been some packages that have disappeared. And, you know, you vaguely look like this person that caught on a Ring camera. And I think that it starts to get a little bit scarier for people when we're asking ourselves, Seth, what happens with these data centers when they become the modern day malls? Because what what's gonna happen is is four to five months, four to five years from now, you've already got Elon Musk that's saying that we're gonna be able to have, you know, data centers that fit in the side of a satellite.
• 6:19
  They'll be orbiting, you know, 16 to 17 miles above the Earth's crust, and we'll be able to compute using the sun power. So what happens with these tens of millions of square feet of data centers that are polluting our waters, they're polluting the air, you know, I can tell you countless times that we've interviewed people that have come in and said, they told us that they're only gonna be using the diesel backup generators in an emergency situation. And since they've turned the light on, the diesel generators have never shut up or shut off. Not to talk about noise pollution, which is another thing that, you know, I'm sure you've heard a lot about. But we are looking at the weirdest twist in America because now we're putting these data centers in places that are water drought prone, places like Arizona, places where there's never going to be enough water unless god shifts winds in their favor, you know, or they can get the clouds going there in in that direction.
• 7:22
  And and I think the more that we call them data centers, it it it's a it's a crime to ourselves because what they're doing is is we are becoming a mass surveillance state whether we like it or not.
• 7:34
  Speaker 1: I couldn't agree more. You bring up a good point in terms of these becoming the modern day mall, which is you go to a shopping mall now, and you're lucky if half the stores are still there. And and there's just there's a handful of people that are just kind of floating around. And so, yeah, if you look at this and you look at you know, we know that technology, especially with with AI, it advances on this exponential scale. Right?
• 8:01
  It's like you go from, you know, a computer the size of a of a large room. It may take them twenty years to get that computer into the size of, like, a fridge. Right? And then it takes another five years to get that computer into a PC tower. And then in two years, it's in a laptop, and one year, it's in an iPhone.
• 8:19
  And then, you know, within a couple years, you've got a little thing in your hand that has the processing power of, you know, even fifteen years ago, what was a a big computer tower. So with these computers or with the data centers, it's like, how long is it gonna be until they can have, you know, what would have taken, say, you know, 40 or say a 100,000 a 100,000 square feet of infrastructure to house this data center, well, how long is it gonna be until that entire infrastructure can fit inside of a closet? And so then what happens? Right? And and if you look at all the grid hardening that these things have, you look at the the water aspect, which I wanna really kinda dive into that.
• 8:59
  You know, I've heard people that are speculating that these are gonna be the kind of FEMA camps two point o, that these are gonna be actual prisons, that these are gonna be, you know, bunkers for different areas that, you know, if people if there's some sort of, you know, hitting a kind of crap hitting the fan situation that these are gonna be the safe places for the approved people. I've heard a lot of different theories about what's behind it, but there's set there's definitely a lot that just doesn't make sense.
• 9:26
  Speaker 2: Right. Well, know, the more important question is, is what can we do to protect ourselves from something that we can't stop? You know, this this could be a push towards fifteen minute cities. This could be, you know, you know, I was talking to one of my roommates that I grew up with twenty years ago and I was talking to him about the whole fifteen minute idea. I watched a deep documentary that was talking about the data centers becoming fifteen minute cities.
• 9:52
  And he's like, I wouldn't move near one of those things if you put a gun to my head. And I said to him, I go, well, I go, most of the people here in America, if you say to them, listen, the dollar's gonna be dead in fifteen years. We're moving towards AI. We're moving towards robotics. You can stay out on your farmland, but we've rerouted the water to these data centers.
• 10:11
  So if you don't wanna have water restrictions, just come to one of these fifteen minute cities. Yeah. There might be a little bit more security, but you're gonna be safe. We've got the drones to protect you. Your child will never get abducted.
• 10:22
  Nobody gets in. Nobody gets out. And by the way, if you don't move into this data center, we're we're gonna have to scale back your Internet. Oh, he's like, well, if I can't have high speed Internet, I'm moving to that fifteen minute city. And I was just like blown away.
• 10:35
  I'm like, that's 90% of Americans would be like, if I gotta go back to dial up, if I can't talk on the phone and be on the computer at the same time, whether it's underground bunkers or whether it's for mass surveillance, we have to ask ourselves, how do we protect ourselves now from what's happening? When you start talking about air, you start talking about water, what can we do to stop feeding the beast? And I can tell you I was so guilty of it, Seth. I was I was the guy that was taking pictures and make it look like the Miami Dolphins won the Super Bowl and they're lifting up the trophy and have guys laughing in the background. You don't think about, you know, AI the way that it should be.
• 11:20
  And it's not this innocent cloud that's floating in the sky. It's infrastructure. It's concrete dust. It's millions and millions and millions of gallons of water. Some a month, some a week, some a day.
• 11:34
  When you think about how much water these things are consuming and the manpower that goes in, the electrical grid consumption, people are like, oh, well, they're gonna go and they're gonna use solar. They're gonna do this. Well, if they're on the city, right, imagine if you're on a city grid, you have to understand that if they're getting their electricity from a regular grid, is it running on coal? Is it on natural gas? So there's more fossil fuels that are in the grid that are backing these data centers.
• 12:05
  And the fact that we know that these diesel generators are not just being run once a week or once a month, we've got some data centers that have ten, fifteen diesel generators that are running constantly. Our kids are living within a half a mile to five miles of a data center. And now we've got you pull that chart up again for me. 5,000 of them. 5,000.
• 12:28
  So pretty soon, it doesn't matter where you live. You're gonna be within ten to fifteen minutes of a data center. So you you take what what China and United Kingdom and Canada and France and you combine it all, we've already won the race. It's not even close.
• 12:47
  Speaker 1: Now we have look data center per population. Right? Because you look at China, who's kind of, you know, oh, they're the big competitor. Well, their population, well, you don't know the exact numbers, but it could be three times what what our country has or more. And so even even makes it look even tinier.
• 13:02
  It's like, oh, okay. They're maybe a 150, right, compared to our five and a half thousand.
• 13:07
  Speaker 2: Correct.
• 13:09
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• 13:33
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• 14:30
  Also makes me wonder, because if you if you look at just the overall idea of technocracy and I and I really I've I've come to the conclusion that I believe that what we're witnessing right now under the Trump administration is a technocratic coup. I think that the people, the the tech bros that align themselves on day one of him, you know, front row inauguration seats, everybody, you know, day one, you know, Larry Ellison and Sam Altman, alternate man coming out. I think that that's what we're seeing is that this this infrastructure is the infrastructure for a technocratic system. And so when you look at the kind of bigger picture, right, of how you know, traditionally throughout history, when you when you have a a group of sociopaths, typically, that take over a society and they want to enslave the people or imprison the people, whether it's through, say, digital prison prison or a physical prison, the arguably, one of the most important things they can do is control the resources. Right?
• 15:34
  Look at the Hall Of Dameer. Look at, anything like this where you've had famine or you've had any of these crises that have happened at the hands of these governments. And so if you look at here in America and you look at what are the two things that these data centers are swallowing up very quickly. It's water and it's energy. And so on top of that, we've got the Strait Of Hormuz and all the issues over there with global energy.
• 15:59
  It makes me wonder that, you know, again, I think you mentioned the location of these data centers. You know, that they're on, you know, already area areas that are already prone to being drought stricken, areas where the aquifer is already being heavily drained. It it would be pretty easy to say, well, it's in the interest of national security to compete with China to build these data centers. Now the data centers are now consuming so much water and so much energy that, okay, well, you know what? We're gonna have to have water and energy rationing.
• 16:25
  And if you're one of those hillbilly rednecks living out in the country and, you know, you're you've got a well, well, your well is draining the same aquifer that our data center is draining, so we're gonna start putting restrictions even on the water you can have in that rural area, let alone electricity. Now, thankfully, they can't necessarily say, well, you you're stealing our sunlight by having your own solar setup. But, anyway, they to me, it's you can see how it would lay the groundwork for them being able to come in and get into that system where, okay, you have your energy credits, you have your water credits, and everything's tokenized, which which we know is, like, that's the end goal of the technocrats, you know, since the early thirties. Like, they're very transparent about what the end goal was.
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: And and it's not like your audience isn't, you know, they're not dumb to this. This is not like California, odd numbers. You can water your grass on Tuesdays and Thursdays for thirty minutes. This gets to the point of we're rationing the water that's coming into your system. Like you're you get 400 gallons a week or 20 gallons a day.
• 17:31
  When when people think that this is impossible, go look at Lake Mead. Like, I just look at pictures from 10 ago when I was out there fifteen years ago and and look at the water level and and where it's dropping. And, you know, then you've got the people that are these pro data centers, and they're like, it rains more in North America than every data center in the world can ever consume. And that's like, yeah, it's if you can capture it. Don't forget the water's falling across 50 states.
• 17:57
  And it's also getting in and feeding our grass and our ecosystem. What what they're doing here is they're setting you up to be able to not be able to defend yourself against the AI system because then what happens is is the the hospital system is running on the AI. You've got the same thing that during Hurricane Katrina. Power grid goes back out. Power power grid goes down.
• 18:22
  Who gets power back first? The firefighters, the fire departments, the rescuers. So now the data centers are gonna have even more priority than a hospital if the hospital grid is running on the same grid that We've the data center is gotta get we've gotta get the grid the grid back to the data center. Nothing runs without it. So, you know, it's it's what are you willing to sacrifice?
• 18:44
  Not for your country. They're asking us, what are you willing to sacrifice for this data center? And I think the way, Seth, that we can fight back is to stop using it. I've encouraged my listeners. I've encouraged my family.
• 18:57
  Go grab a book. Write an email the way it used to be. Half of these people that are passing these exams, you know, God bless those professors that are now white coating, you know, ink in it. So people who just cut, copy, paste, and then try to cheat through their seminar. Like, it'll say throw Guatemala randomly somewhere in this essay.
• 19:18
  And then they don't proofread it. They turn it in. He goes, if the word Guatemala shows up in my email, he goes, they failed the class because they know that they were using AI. But that that's kinda where we're getting to is we have to stop taking these pictures. We have to stop asking Claude and chat GPT and all the other c's to do things for us.
• 19:36
  We didn't ask for this. We we sure we surely shouldn't be able to feed the beast. But in the meantime, we have to protect our families because the byproduct of what they're creating is pollution. They're creating chaos. They're consuming millions of gallons of water.
• 19:51
  They're polluting the water. And people that say, oh, it's only a temporary issue. Why don't you go outside of Georgia and go out to Fayetteville and ask the people that live there near Mehta's new center that they opened up, ask them how long it takes them to fill up their bathtub with water, Ask them to send some of the water. You know, we're getting to an issue where I remember back in the day, it was the frackers. Right?
• 20:11
  They'd show up into the courthouse and say, oh, you said fracking was safe and you would drink the water and they come in with three glass jars and they're like, here here you go. Here it is. Go ahead, senator. Drink that water for me. You said you drink it.
• 20:23
  Go ahead and drink it.
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: Well, then you also get into the water rationing. Right? So you have the the pollution, which we'll we'll kinda dive more into because that that's kind of one of your expertises. But this is an article that unshadowed, you know, know, formerly Ice Age farmer in the short of the DC. He published this.
• 20:37
  He says, the technocrats want your water. UN's global water bankruptcy exposed. He says that UN has called for global water surveillance and restructuring of rights. I'm gonna read a little bit here because this is exactly exactly what we're talking about. He says, so in 2005, the CEO, who's a WEF partner of Nestle, famously announced that water was not a human right.
• 21:01
  Having announced their intentions, the technocrats set about crafting a crisis narrative to take control of this precious resource. This year, not coincidentally coinciding with the UN WEF announcements that we were entering a food crisis and must adopt GMO crops, that crisis rhetoric was amped up to 11. So in the January 2026 report, the United Nations University Institute for Water, and Environment and Health declared global water bankruptcy far worse than a mere water crisis. It says that water bankruptcy describes a persistent post crisis state wherein long term human withdrawals from surface and groundwater exceeds inflows causing effectively irreversible de degradation of water capital. Says the term bankruptcy itself telegraphs their intention to seize it all, framing society as insolvent and taking our water into receivership so the technocrats can step in and control the resource.
• 21:59
  I'll continue this next little section here. It says the that this organization naturally was quite thrilled, calling the need for a form of global bankruptcy management governance, an opportunity that cannot be overlooked. Says that they quietly, openly they quite openly salivate at a chance to codify their temporary crisis measures into permanent technocratic oversight of the lasting con of the lasting conditions. Specifically, they cite a need for, and this is this is the most important part of this, they cite a need for transportation, monitoring, and accounting of and enforceable limits on water use, protection of water related natural capital, equity focused transitions that put protect vulnerable groups, smallholders, women, indigenous communities, low income population, and a rebalancing of demand, restructuring of rights, and reorienting of infrastructure, technology, finance, and trade. I mean, so, like, what we were just talking about, this this lays it out right here.
• 22:59
  You declare an emergency. You make the emergency never go away, and you declare that there's this, you know, we're in a water bankruptcy. And before you know it, they're starting to come in and and tokenize your water usage and start putting in control measures. And before you know it, it's like the whole nation is like California. Oh, well, you can water your plants for thirty minutes on the morning of every other weekday.
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: Or you can shower on Wednesdays if your, you know, name ends in a y or if it starts with an h. You can shower for, you know, five minutes in the household. You've got running hot water. And and the worst part of this is like you mentioned, all those billionaires that were sitting down at the very begin of this, you know, tech technocratical regime that is basically taking over The United States. You're not gonna see people in Palm Beach giving up their homes and saying, here, get access to saltwater.
• 23:49
  The same, you know, $300,000,000 cruise ship that's being built that has the, potential to take saltwater using desalination. Why don't you say, hey, why don't you guys go buy some waterfront property and you guys get pumps out into the ocean? You guys wanna be able to control the world, then don't pass the tax on to the people. Don't give us don't tokenize our water. Don't tokenize our electricity.
• 24:12
  Don't have the grid go up and have me foot the bill. Why don't you guys go buy some waterfront property instead of putting it in these poor areas and then stealing the water from the people. They've got the resources. If you just look at the biggest rug pull that they've done in modern American history, anybody that invested in SpaceX, you know, ask ask the people that got in early on that IPO, where is it going? You know?
• 24:33
  And and and here we are still fighting the idea that it's not impossible. They just don't want us put the money out there to go get the water to desalinate it. They don't want waterfront property. They wanna put it where they can get they wanna steal farmland. They wanna go into places that are water drum prowl.
• 24:51
  And, you know, where you and I were five, six years ago, we were kind of laughing, you know, knowing about gold and silver and palladium and, you know, those guys that were out there saying that one day here in the near future, water's gonna be the most valuable resource. And now our eyes are starting to be like, well, I guess what what what would happen if you were out in the desert and someone said, you know, water is it's it's $500 an ounce, $600 an ounce, $5,000 an ounce if it's the last water that's available in the desert. And it's starting to get really, really scary.
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: Or if they say, in order to get access to the water, you have to be protecting the community, you must be up to date on your recent boosters, and you must have that verification. If you want to come and get access to your water, you need to make sure you're verified that you're up to date on your vaccination schedule. Right? This is exactly what you're seeing. And you're right, You're talking with your buddy that it's like, I'll never move into a fifteen minute city.
• 25:49
  Well, they you know, they'd of course, they know that people are gonna think like that. Right? They're not gonna think, oh, we're gonna build these fifteen minute cities, everyone's just gonna come in and move in and be voluntarily put into a prison. They've got ways of forcing these things. But so then looking
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: at You know, Seth Seth Seth, you were Seth, you were at a poker game three weeks ago, and there was a guy there, and he was just arrested for vandalizing a flock camera system. Well, we don't know if we're gonna be able to give you your water ration this week because he's an extremist. He's standing up against, you know, the AI. I I think that he really wants America to be destroyed. I mean, this type of terrorism.
• 26:24
  And and you played poker with this guy?
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: Exactly. That's it. Right? Was it is it Stalin, I think it was? Show me the man.
• 26:33
  I'll show you the crime. Right? I mean, it's that that's exactly it. And and so getting into the the kind of more infrastructure of these data centers. Right?
• 26:43
  So and and I'll kinda kinda approach this in first kind of layman's terms, and I want you to educate me from that perspective. Like, why do they need so much water, and what is it that they do that causes the pollution of this water? Like what happens? Explain this to me.
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: So anybody who in the very beginning days, like anybody that did Bitcoin mining or the guys that had the little GPUs, I don't know how to describe to you if you're not a gamer or if you don't have children in your house that have had a gaming system, you know, I try to limit my children to all screen time. I believe that they should go outside and have two sticks and recreate the battle of the bulge, you know, go out there and and swing from a tree into a lake, go touch God's green grass. But earlier in my life before, you know, I became the the green father that I am today, I remember when my my daughter, my oldest daughter got her first gaming system and she wanted a computer. And I remember that that NVIDIA graphics card that was inside of her computer, she could fire that thing on and within five minutes, you walk into her room and it was at least three to four degrees warmer than every other room in the house. Now imagine that's one NVIDIA graphics card that's being air cooled, not water cooled.
• 28:03
  It's just air cooled. The the chips and the processors and the GPUs that they're using in these data centers, they run very very hot. So most of them are using water cooling systems. And if the water itself isn't cooling it enough, they're then putting in what's known as a water loop. So they're bringing in like ethylene glycol or propylene glycol, which is basically an antifreeze.
• 28:32
  Now they say that this is a chilled water loop. But if any of that water gets dumped or if it leaks outside of the loop and, you know, you you start looking at silicates or phospholates, which they call corrosion inhibitors. So they're running the water over these these big CPUs, which are housed in basically a water waterproof silicone case, if you wanna call it that. And and and they're running the water over to reduce the temperature of these GPUs. That's why when you look at some of these big data centers, they could need as much as a million to 5,000,000 gallons of water a day, depending on the square footage and how many GPUs that they have in there.
• 29:16
  But then you gotta worry about putting in a scale inhibitor because the water that they're bringing in, they're not purifying it. You were talking about like the aquafor. Right? The same aquafor that Timmy up the street dug a 400 foot well. I'm not on city water.
• 29:31
  I don't need to worry about the data centers. That aquaporin is getting depleted. Doesn't matter whether you're on well or city water. The water's running. So then you've got to look at things like bromine or antimicrobial chemicals because they don't want there to be algae or they don't want there to be a bacteria growth on their precious GPU.
• 29:50
  So now they're putting in these extra chemicals. And where do you think it goes, Seth? You think they're just putting it right into a water management facility? Are they are they building a 600 mile, you know, aquifer to the treatment facility? Or are they just letting that water run off and get back into the aquifer?
• 30:06
  So they're running this water out and now everybody that lives near a data center where they're using ethanol glycol or if they're using propylene glycol as a cooling system leaks into the water. So I want you to imagine like a firefighter that has a car that's on fire, but the fire never goes out. They just keep spraying water on this never ending burning car. And and now you've got hundreds of thousands of these never ending cars at these data centers, which is why you can go get any thermal camera, go three to 400 feet away from the data center, take out your thermal camera, and you could literally see just the the gas, the heat signature coming off of the buildings. And they're cooling those while while you're taking the picture.
• 30:52
  But it's it's never ending supply. They haven't figured out a way to do it without water properly.
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: Which is also, you know, crazy for a few things. One is that why aren't they building just a massive, massive, you know, 10,000 acre data center park up in Alaska, right, or or Canada. Right? You know, either they could build a, you know, an, like, a nuclear plant just for that to to do all that for the data centers. Right?
• 31:20
  And and then then, you know, hey. Just just leave the windows open, and there there's your cooling. But the other thing is that if you're looking at these these underground aquifers and okay. Well, how are those refilled? Well, it's a lot of times through rainfall.
• 31:35
  Right? You have rainfall that goes in, and that's just the circulatory system of of the Earth. Right? The water can he heats up. It evaporates.
• 31:41
  It goes up in the sky. It comes back down as rainfall. A lot of that goes into the aquifers. They get refilled. But then if you look at geoengineering, it's so easy for them to engineer drought, you know, the same way they engineer flooding or, you know, you know, many other things.
• 31:56
  And so they could very easily take an area where they've got these data centers where they wanted to start pushing this type of agenda. They could then create drought conditions. Then it's even more of this saying, okay. Hey. Not only is it a drought, but the date the aquifer is being drained.
• 32:13
  It just you can see all the things that they could do to really kind of force people into whatever situation that that, you know, that they want people in.
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Ask Greenland. Ask Greenland if they want to convert half of their country to data centers. I think that they knew that's why we were trying to absorb them is because of think of how cool they are. Think of think of how cool Greenland is.
• 32:36
  You could just go put data centers right out there where the temperature is lower than anywhere else in The United States year round. But you know, the questions that people aren't asking is is why why are they using PFAs? Right? So you've got some of these data centers that are now putting in, you know, the same solution that they put in in firefighting solutions like the I think they're called it's called a foam. Like the gosh, man.
• 33:01
  I'm gonna mess it up, but it's like polyfucherine or alkyl substances, but they they call it PFA, which is a forever chemical, but they use that for fire suppression training, like bisodium carbonate, same stuff that they put in the restaurants if, God forbid, the the the fire suppression system doesn't work and the gas line doesn't shut off. It sprays the chemical all over. But these break down, Seth, so extremely slowly, and they can contaminate the groundwater easily. Not only is it gonna affect wildlife, but it's gonna affect people and and the health concerns. You're talking cancer, immune system changes, developmental problems.
• 33:36
  And these facilities are telling you, oh, we're gonna replace all these PFA containing foams, and we're gonna use a fluorine or fluorine free alternatives. But when you look at some of these data centers, the NDAs that they have, they're so tight that you have no idea what's happening. People by the time the completion of the data center is done, they didn't even know that it was just like they thought it was a traditional warehouse. So there's there's no way to fight it. You can't go in.
• 34:05
  You can't go to your city board. So unless they come out and say, hey. We're repurposing this. And there's language that was written, you know, by some board member or government council before they get billed, you don't even know what it is.
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: So here's a I'm gonna bring this up. So Hakim Anwar, I'm not sure if you know him, he's a guy behind, the Above Phone. But he actually just he just launched this. I did an interview on it a couple months ago. This is it's called the aidatacentermap.org, and I really encourage people to people to check this out.
• 34:34
  So, what this map is showing here is he's looking at, current water stress. So, this is showing the regions of the country, and he's showing from low to severe what the water stress is, but he also shows all the different data centers. And so, you can see that Wow. It like, what's kind of funny, but not funny, is that the data centers aren't being built in these big regions that, you know, have no water stress. Right?
• 35:04
  You look at the data centers, they're being built oftentimes where there's major water stress. And so you have areas like, you know, down here looking at Arizona, right, which I think you mentioned, you know, out west, look at Scottsdale. Right? Look at, a, it's already in a high to severe water stress, yet look at all of these data centers. Then what he also explained on this is I think that something like every, like, kind of large scale data center actually raises the temperature, like, between two and three degrees within a certain re area around that.
• 35:38
  And so, know, say you wanna click on a certain kind of location, it will show you right here. It creates what's called a heat island. So, if you look over on this little left bar here, it shows you the heat island is around 16 degrees Fahrenheit. So, what this map does is it calculates all the data centers in that, radius, and then it calculates the heat they're putting off, and it shows you, because that's the thing that's also happening is that they're they're heating. And so if you live in a region with, let's say, 10 data centers within five miles or 10 miles of you, the the temperature from the even from the data centers alone could be could be raised by 15 degrees Fahrenheit.
• 36:17
  Right? And that's like, even a one degree shift from the norm in your in your average temperatures can really throw off wildlife. But then what he also does here and so I encourage you to check this out, right, and see where you live, But see how close you he also has this thing up here where you can go and you can click on the, major US aquifers. And so, you can see here, it shows you the, the different aquifers in the nation. And so, like so you can see like, say that you live in an area, hypothetically like, let's go back to, you know, where I'm from, you know, in Ohio.
• 36:53
  Let's just say that you live out in the country, say in Urbana, Ohio. It's like, oh, okay. Well, there's no data centers there. However, you can see that sharing that same aquifer with you, there's probably 60 different or 100 different data centers. So you can actually then go and you can map and you can see and it shows you I think that actually even the stress, right, the, water risk level of those aquifers, right, going from low to kind of to none to severe.
• 37:21
  But you can see right for instance, this aquifer right here, this, this is the, Piedmont Blue Ridge Crystalline water aquifers, this whole water aquifer is already on approaching high to severe level of stress in terms of of how low it is. I mean, you know, what is there? I mean, look at the map right here. These are major you know, this is, like, you know, densely populated areas. You're getting up into Washington DC, up into Maryland.
• 37:48
  This aquifer might be responsible for 50,000,000 people off of this single aquifer. Yet what's happening? Look at all the data centers. So, like, what's this area look like ten years from now? Right?
• 38:02
  I mean, this is I mean, this it's really I I really I really enjoyed that interview with him because this is really helpful information I think most people should be aware of.
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah. It's a it's a beautiful map, and he's done a really good job of pointing it out because, like you said, you how many other data centers are are siphoning water off of the same aquifer that that we're in?
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• 39:24
  I've
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: watched a lot of people who have done, Seth, these these AI data centers. And one of the things that I feel like nobody, I'm not going to say nobody because I've been talking about it. But a lot of people are not asking the the one of the biggest questions. And we've talked about water. We've talked about the water pollution.
• 39:42
  We've talked about the air pollution. But one of the things that none of the data centers are really giving us a fine answer on is what's happening with the electronic waste. Right? How often are these servers going to have to be replaced? Because you and I both know, just like in the computer game, the computer that you bought a year ago from Best Buy is it will it will never work the way that the new one that just came out yesterday will because the systems are cooler.
• 40:10
  They've got more and more gigawatts. They got more power. They got more processing power. It's got a better graphics card. So when you start thinking about 5,000 plus data centers, each one of them with thousands to millions of GPUs, and each one of those, you're talking lead, copper, nickel, cobalt.
• 40:30
  You've got rare earth minerals. Some of them flame retardants. They've got plastics. Where are they putting these, Seth? Are they properly recycling them?
• 40:38
  Are they going to the same landfill that's also connected to the aquapor? Are they leaching chemicals? Are they contaminating groundwater? How much of these heavy metals are getting into the soil? Which ones are being burned when they go into the the the in incendiary?
• 40:57
  How much of those chemicals are being put back into the air? Because you know for a fact, they're gonna continue to keep up as soon as the flock camera says we no longer work with model a z t three four. We need four five six seven eight four one b. Okay. Now we gotta swap out all of these because if the mass surveillance camera system won't work with the old processors, now we've gotta we've gotta swap everything out.
• 41:22
  How many hundreds of millions of dollars are gonna be burnt because of continually upgraded system that the these camera systems and the the the grid requires? And we don't know the answers to this. We don't know what's gonna happen.
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: It's like when you see the pictures of the old solar fields that have become obsolete It's this it's like a giant graveyard. And one thing got me thinking, actually, looking at this map, because we know that, again, with these aquifers, it's a circulatory system. And so, let's just look at this aquifer in particular, this is one of the worst cases to examine. Let's just say let's just imagine, right, so that this aquifer, is giving water to, say, to say 30,000,000 people. Right?
• 42:07
  Throw a number out there. So, look at all these data centers. Let's just say that there's, you know, 500 data centers that are actually tapping into this particular aquifer. So, if all these data centers are pulling water out of this aquifer, They're running it through their cooling systems. They're adding these chemicals.
• 42:27
  They're adding the forever chemicals. I mean, we remember what happened with DuPont. Right? When when the when the DuPont got a slap on the back of the you know, in the hand from EPA, but the when the DuPont was knowingly poisoning the groundwater, and and we're talking for like, it's still causing issues. It's like Agent Orange.
• 42:43
  Right? It's just it's just a little bit slower acting. So what happens, though, when, you know, in in a couple of years, when this aquifer now has is just filled with all these forever chemicals because of all these data centers. I mean, this is, like again, even people, like, we live on on a well. You know, we've got a a well, you know, thankfully, where I'm at, I've already looked at it before, it's we're in a pretty good location, which I feel lucky about that.
• 43:09
  But what happens when even your well water is now full of forever chemicals and your typical your saltwater softener and your sediment filter that you've had for thirty years in your house, which always gave you good water, you test your water and you realize, holy smokes. We've we've got carcinogens in the same water that I'm bathing my kids in, that I'm drinking, that I'm watering my vegetables with. Like that's a that's a pretty frightening situation just even from this the pollution perspective of this.
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: And then you you combat that with what's happening to the families that are in that region with what they're breathing. And you're talking about the chemicals that they're putting not only into the water, but also the chemicals that they're putting into the air. This is gonna be like, you know, now you wonder why Aaron Brockovich is all over data centers right now because this is like a modern day Flint, Michigan crisis. But this is happening in every single city in America, whether you've got amazing amounts of water, or your aqua force already 90% depleted. And and this is where we really have to come together and have these solutions to be able to protect our family, to be able to make sure that we're not bathing in in a lead acid water runoff, not drinking murky brown glycol coolant that's coming off from the data center.
• 44:31
  And we have to be able to fight five to six steps ahead of what they're going to do. Because I do not think that this is a republican democratic problem. I think you hit the nail right on the head. This is a technocratical nightmare that is not going to stop. It's a war that probably will not be won unless everybody stands up and is like, we don't we don't want the AI.
• 44:54
  We don't want it. We won't do it.
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: Well, so so getting into purification, right? Because obviously this is a big deal. And we and we take it you know, as a family, we take it very seriously. We've we've had a Berkey for a long time, that we recently upgraded. We got a a new whole house system on.
• 45:12
  We got a new RO system with, you know, lots of different kind of bells and whistles for under the sink, because, you know, we we're very serious about that. You know, same way that we grow our own food, eat organic, you know, as much as we can. We've we we run we've got multiple air filters that are running nonstop in the house, which which I'm I'm very grateful that we found those. But in terms of of water, because I think that we'll get to a point where, basically, that you you will have to you have to just have your own you have to have your own water filtration, especially for drinking. And and showering is also a big one too, but especially for drinking, I think we'll we'll get to a place where most families in America will just have to have their own local water filtration.
• 45:53
  And so where do we go from that angle? There's a lot of different systems out there. Kind of educate us a little bit on, like, the the principles of how to get clean water if you're whether you're on unwell or honestly, if you're on tap, if you're just on municipal water, you should be filtering your water, like, that that you should not be drinking the water coming straight from your tap. Like, that's that's a it's a given. It's so bad already.
• 46:17
  But, anyway, so walk us through what it looks like to get clean, healthy water in our homes.
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So airairwaterhealing.com is, you know, it it to me, it's like the Amazon shop for health for people who are committed to drinking clean water, bathing in clean water. You know, I know a lot of families out there can't go out and afford a whole home water filtration system. And and I recommend people, you could start to make some investments and changes in your life, work your way up to doing a whole home water filtration system. Underneath the Air Water Healing brand, we have a underneath the Sync RO system.
• 46:58
  So if you go right there to expand products right there on category two where it shows the Echo Hydrogen Water, Go to the select products and then scroll down a little bit. My favorite that we have right now is that RO underneath the sink. That is a tankless system. And what's incredible about that is I know most of modern day Americans, I've looked at underneath their sinks. One, it doesn't require a rocket scientist or a plumber to even install it.
• 47:24
  It takes up very little space. And it is so simple to install. And it will remove the gnarliest, nastiest stuff that's coming off from not only the data centers, but things that are already in your water supply system. It is a great drinking water. Yes, there are systems out there that will do a remineralization.
• 47:45
  I tell people you could put a little bit of a Himalayan sea salt, just a little pinch of it in the water. But what's great about that is that is a mamma jamma that runs all day long. And I can tell you I've tested other systems that are out there. I really love the RO because you can put it underneath a sink. You could set it up in your backwater bathroom or a bathroom where you have not even a whole lot of good water pressure.
• 48:11
  And it is very easy to install. It comes with a little spigot. You can choose different colors and faucets. But that picture that you showed where it took up very little space, that tankless RO is the most affordable one that's on
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: the
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: market. And we worked with Doctor. Paul Barataro to make sure that this was designed from the ground up to remove anything and everything out of the water. But more importantly, you know, we're not there yet. And I can tell you guys, you guys did so good the last time, you know, we we started touching on this product.
• 48:43
  But we are committed to creating the number one atmospheric water generator in the market. You know, we had the tabletop one. And when that sold out, we put it into the commercial system, which we're now trying to get every home in America to be able to generate between five to 10 gallons of water a day. Now this is purely drinking water. And we're we're fine tuning the electrical system.
• 49:07
  But anybody who understands what they're doing to the air and the water in in this in this country, You guys have to be able to go three or four steps ahead of them. And we're not going to stop until we can help find cures for every issue that we're having. But if we pull together, guys, let's fight back against using the beast. Don't send funny photos. Don't Photoshop things unless you're using your own Photoshop system.
• 49:36
  We have to stop giving the water to these companies that are just burning through it and protect your family. Look at what chemicals are coming off the data centers. Look at the air quality test. Another great thing is you guys can go on ewg.org. See what's in the tap water that you're drinking.
• 49:54
  I they don't do it for systems that are well systems. But you can go in there and look at the ratings of the water pre data center. Go back. Look at the reports from five years, two years, a year ago, and look at what type of chemicals are now showing up in the water. That's the best part about that underneath the sink RO system is we're constantly evolving and putting better membranes in there to be able to remove what you shouldn't be drinking.
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so this is, I've pulled up here, this is the, ewg.org, which if you go
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: to
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: their home site on the top, it has a little button for the, tap water. So, let's just say, let's pick a let's just say, okay, 90210, right? Let's just throw in a zip code we know, where you can go in here and you can see the specifics. Okay, here's the contaminants, contaminants, right, so if you are in 90210 and you're drinking just tap water right, arsenic is a five seventy two times the their health guideline, bromine I mean that's crazy arsenic, you know, you can just see. You know, you this this and we I remember back when I lived in Ohio, we did this when we before we had we were on city water, and we were looking at these tests, it was just appalling how bad it was, that the chlorine and everything.
• 51:14
  So we actually just went and drilled a well, and it was it was, like, $15,000. Like, putting a well in is is not cheap. I think we had to go 200 feet down and then, you know, everything. So, it was a big investment, but this is really this is really, really, key. So I encourage people to go you know, just go in.
• 51:30
  Just drop in. I'll put the link actually, yes, I'll do. I'll I'll I'll make sure that this link is in the, description for the show, so you can just go on here and drop in your ZIP code and and see. And so, just to kind of in in kind of closing and, you know, kind of wrapping up here. So, this just obviously, there's a lot of filtration systems.
• 51:50
  There's there's gravity fed ones like Berkey's. There's under the sink ones. And so the one thing that I've run into with these and the reason why so we got a we got an under sink system. I just haven't installed it yet because it's it's a huge system. It has this big tank on it, and it's okay.
• 52:05
  I'll I'll to clear out some stuff under there, and that's fine. But that's oftentimes the one of the big barriers to getting these things installed is that for a lot of people, you have to pay a a plumber. You know, they might charge you $300, you know, to come out for an hour and install one of these systems or more. And so with this one, you're saying this is basically obviously, it's slim, so it's gonna fit underneath your kitchen sink or wherever you're putting it really easily. And how easy is it to hook up?
• 52:34
  Do you have to a plumber to do this I had, or what's
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: no, no. I had mine installed in less than fifteen minutes. And I had a pre existing hole, where the, soap dispenser was that was in my house. So I just took that out, put in the faucet, reached up there, ran the line. And it's so simple to install.
• 52:51
  The other thing that's really important too is, you know, understanding that the water itself is so crucial when you're talking about right into your gut lining. You know, I know a lot of people say, oh, well, you know, you're gonna take a bath in it. You're gonna go in there. But when when you're drinking water, it goes right into your gut. It's getting right into your going through your crucial organs.
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: Crossing people's brain barrier.
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: Oh, they're like, I'm not gonna get an RO system because I'm not gonna get a water filtration system because I'm showering and garbage. Well, that's that's that's stinking thinking. Now start with most important thing, which is the water that you're drinking. Change that. Work your way up to like what you and I have done, which is install, you know, whole home water filtration systems.
• 53:35
  I in a sixty second push only because of what you had mentioned to me about what you were experiencing with the wildfires. So many of your customers had sent us in with the data centers. I think one of the craziest things that I never really understood because I'm not an engineer, but I know you talked about the air pollution. I wanted to show and if we could get your audience to understand it, this is probably the coolest time after being up in Michigan. I drove from Kalamazoo up to Grand Rapids.
• 54:06
  The the 562 was the hazardous health that they had that was there. Five sixty two. Man, it was bad here
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: in New York and it was at
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: Five five
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: low two hundreds.
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: We were at five sixty two in Grand Rapids. And one of the coolest things that was ever explained to me was by Alan Johnston, the guy that created I know you've got two of the triads, which is our whole home system.
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah. We have
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: two. I wanna show I want I I wanna show your audience so they understand why HEPA, carbon, charcoal, why those filters that are out there will never do the technology. So like when you talk about the engineers like Alan Johnston, Doctor. Paul Barataro, Doctor. Edward Group, the guys that we're working with building systems from the ground up, only in water purification, but for anybody that is in your audience that understands what these data centers are off gassing and putting.
• 54:59
  I could tell you with the wildfire smoke, we got thousands of emails from people that are like, my neighbor came over to our house because they couldn't breathe. When they walked into our house, they're like, our house was the only house that didn't have smoke and pollution in it because we had the triad running. And I was like, oh my gosh. I thought back to all the years of me talking to doctors and surgeons and and people that are in the health field. So inside of this box right here, this is what's happening inside of Seth's house and my house when we don't have our system running.
• 55:34
  You've got pollution. You've got smoke. You've got smog. You've got everything. And I I think that the camera zoomed in enough, but what I'm gonna do is I'm gonna flip this off real quick, and I'm gonna show you the two technologies.
• 55:45
  Soon as I activate that, that's what's happening with photocatalytic oxidation, PCL, and needle point negative ionization twenty four hours a day. It's taking that to that wildfire.
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: So you you didn't just suck the smoke out of the box. Right?
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: Nope. There's not a moving fan. There's nothing. We've had people come up to us. I've had engineers that walk in, and I'm like, yeah.
• 56:06
  Was like, we work with Alan. They're like, oh, they're like Alan Johnson, Raytheon missile defense, Hughes aircraft. I was like, yeah. They're like, oh, that's one of the smartest guys I know. Yeah.
• 56:14
  He developed that system. So what it's doing is it's constantly dropping that down to the ground and removing it. And and to me, I was like, wow. I was like, now being in the middle of a wildfire, Seth, I I've never been there before. But then being in that Kalamazoo area and going outside and seeing that smoke and then having neighbors that come by and be like, woah.
• 56:35
  What's happening in your house? To be on the receiving end of what we've gotten for fifteen to thirty years of compliments. And and full warning, anybody that buys for you guys, you got through using Seth's coupon code on air water healing, you guys will be on a preorder because we have been sold out since the fires. We're getting inventory in almost every day. But if you guys do decide to make that, you'll understand why Seth and I were somewhat normal during the wildfires because we were able to breathe.
• 57:05
  And and that's kind of how cool, you know, being on the receiving end of what people have told us over the years. You know? I was like, wow. Was like, I really see because you don't see the dust and the mold and all, like, every single day. But when you're stuck in the middle of a wildfire, it was like your house was like that safe haven because you had that product that was running.
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: Oh, and that's exactly the case for us. Right? It's because we weren't where you are, but we were we were in the the the tail of the smoke. Right? Because we're in Upstate New York.
• 57:34
  And so, I mean, it was it was bad enough that, you know, you go outside and it has a smoky, kinda smoky chemical smell. Like, there's there's a lot of other things, like, there's a lot of bad stuff in that. It wasn't just burning trees, and that's a whole different kinda show topic. But you went out there, and you could we couldn't see the sun. It was just it was almost like a fog.
• 57:54
  And we live out in the middle of the woods, and so those trees are helping to purify, which that really helps. But, even my daughter was outside the field playing, and she was coughing all night because of that. And so Yep. But what we did is we closed up our entire house. We closed every single window, and we have we have two of your Triad Airs.
• 58:13
  So, this is it right here. So, we had two of these. I kicked them both up to, like, as you have a way of adjusting, put the fan on high, and I put them both up to, like, the 2,000 square feet, you know, kind of setting. So they're just kind of, like, on running on overdrive. And with two of those running, we had one running in the basement, which is where my studio is, and one I I moved it into the, we have, like, a two story kind of entryway area in our house where it's, like, very common for your your, you know, the entryway has, like, the kind of tall ceilings.
• 58:41
  I put it right next to the front door and just cranked it up, and it was it was the most noticeable difference in in terms of, like, someone coming from outside and coming in. The air in our house felt so pure. Like, it was you know, it was but before that, it wasn't. And we always have them running, but we kind of specifically, you know, turn put them in their key places, cranked it up. Not to mention, you know, my as I mentioned, my studio is in my basement.
• 59:10
  And so we we always have one of these running in our basement. And if for some reason, say, there's, like, the power flickers or something's sake gets turned off, within a day, I'll know that it hasn't been running. Because that basement smell will it's not like we don't have a moldy basement, but it just like, there's just that mildewy smell that it doesn't matter how it It's a must. Like, it is.
• 59:31
  Speaker 2: That musty smell.
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: It is. You know? And so, like, literally within a within a day, I'll come downstairs and be like, I can smell it. Okay. And I go over, oh, okay.
• 59:41
  That one of the kids turned it off. I turn it back on. Within within twenty minutes, the entire basement smells like fresh air again. And I I'm not, like, I I I bought these. You know what mean?
• 59:51
  Like, I I use them. You know, we have these. So it's not just some kind of, you know, make something up. Like, this it's the real deal. I wish I I mean, honestly, I wish I had, like, six of these things.
• 1:00:00
  I've had them in every every major room in
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 2: the One in every major room. And I'll tell you too, you know, when I went out I went out, I was a lifesaver because I haven't been traveling on the flights as often as I was, you know, during during COVID and during, you know, the during during trade show seasons and just going over and doing lecturings at the chiropractic offices. But one of the things I was telling you about before we even got on on camera is I've kind of got a little bit of a green thumb. So I've been doing a lot of gardening, specifically like peppers and cucumbers and and just all all of the things that are really easy to grow in in Northern Michigan. And I went outside even during the wildfire, and I had that bright idea.
• 1:00:39
  I was like, oh my gosh. I ran into my satellite studio that I have in my office. And I went and grabbed my little PureAir one, the one that I always wear when I was outside, you know, during COVID when I was like, you know, on flights with mask, I was like, I'm sorry, somebody, I don't want somebody to shedding on me. But I clipped this bad boy on, I put it right on my shirt. And I went out there and I was like, oh my gosh.
• 1:01:01
  I was like, what a difference. Like what you experienced coming back into your house, I had like about a two foot bubble in the middle of that wildfire smoke. And I really wish that I could have had a camera that was like, you know, with with enough, you know, like a powerful enough lens to like probably like the two foot bubble that was around me. And I was like, oh my gosh. I was like, now I understand, you know, the visualizing it.
• 1:01:28
  Because I've always told people, was like, imagine like a two foot pure air bubble. But it's it's really cool, you know, the the technology. And and I'm so glad that you have that in your house. But more importantly, thank you for bringing attention to what what's happening with the water supply and these aquifers and more importantly, giving people hope because we we can live as much of a normal life as we can if we just keep doing our research, look at what we can do to protect our family. And man, man in America is helping people in America and worldwide.
• 1:02:01
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• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I'll make sure I put that information in the the show. And I'll I guess, looking at the at the water, you know, it's, you know, your RO system is it's, like, a little bit more expensive than, like, a big Berkey. But the big Berkey's, those filters are expensive. You have to replace those filters, and even the EPA's made it made that more difficult to do.
• 1:02:37
  But, you know, if you're drink I know people that, you know, that are drinking as bottled water. So, you know, you you you'll it'll pay for itself in the cost of all the bottled water, etcetera, that you're bringing in. So it's it's, you know, it's one of those things that it's like buying a red light panel. Right? You buy it once, and you can use it for twenty years.
• 1:02:56
  And that's that's what's nice. And, obviously, there's filters in there you have to change, but I know from my own research and experience, you don't have to change them every month. Right? It's it's it's not.
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  Speaker 2: No. There's thousands, thousands, and thousands of gallons can run through it. And more importantly, you're not you're not breaking your pack, going out and having to buy 80 packs of water and getting five gallon jugs and walking up and down, up and down. And then more importantly, the microplastics, you you hit the nail. I I when I see people drinking out of a plastic bottle, I'm just like
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, even when the plumber was coming in, he's like, actually, I I can run PEX for this when I set up all your your filtration. And I'm like, no. It's like our our house was built in the early nine or in the nineties. It's copper everything.
• 1:03:37
  All the water is copper. Like, there's no way I'm putting plastic piping on my my brand new whole house water filtration that that is trying to pull these things out. So, yeah, I'll go ahead and let let's put a little microplastics in. Okay? Sprinkle salt bits.
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  Sprinkle some microplastics in your cup of water for you. Right?
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  Speaker 2: Bam. Yeah. Exactly. Some plastic.
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: Bam. Exactly. Yeah. And that's horrible. Yeah.
• 1:03:59
  Well, anyway, Michael, it's it's, it's always good talking to you, man. And probably because, you know, I'm in Ohio. You're Michigan, kind of your origin, so there's that that Midwestern, you know, kind of vibe there. But I appreciate everything you're doing. I I also I mean, genuinely, I thank you for even introducing me to a lot of what, you know, I'm now using.
• 1:04:18
  Like, I I mean, I'm serious. My wife, she's really more she's much more sensitive with her lungs and everything, and so, like, your systems, those air systems in particular, have just been lifesaving for us. Like, even in the days where it's just heavy, heavy chemtrails outside, windows are windows are shut, purifiers are running, every everyone's breathing well, no one's coughing. It makes a huge difference. And that's a whole we didn't even get into chemtrails.
• 1:04:44
  Like, that's a whole other thing that's like, okay, yeah, the forest fires are gone, but don't worry, they're still spraying you with chemicals because the fires are stopped. But anyway, it's a a whole different rabbit hole to get into.
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 2: We could do it again sometime. I think our our I remember last time you and I did our, when we did the chemtrail segment, I think you shut I think you shut my website down for about three days.
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 1: Good. Also, we still gotta do a show on mold. That's a whole other thing I really wanna do a show on. Aw. Because that's only thing that that just to mention, you know, in in the basement, that mildew smell, a lot of that's caused by mold, and and mold is is the silent killer.
• 1:05:21
  I mean, it's especially if it's near Wi Fi, e EMF has proven it really make mold way more rapid and growing. And so those things just completely zap the mold. And we use ozone machines, too. I've I've got, like, the little kind of portable heavy duty ozone generators that if if I need to actually, like, literally, this morning, I was my our nanny was over, and she's had some air quality issues. So I was like, okay.
• 1:05:43
  Take this. Leave the house. You know? Be be out for eight hours. Run it for two hours in your house with all your doors open.
• 1:05:50
  Right? Just an ozone blast. Like, ozone's amazing. Like, it's it's also interesting. Like, how how do they get the smoke smell out of cars if you're a used car dealer?
• 1:05:59
  They use ozone machines.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Right? Yeah. It's like, so that's what you know, that's why I like what your system is. There's, like, that subtle, small amount of ozone that's coming out in addition to everything that's happening there. Just anyway, I'm I'm it's obvious I'm excited about the product because I use it.
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 2: We we we can do we can do a deep dive. I'll bring in a specialist for you. I'll I'll see if we can get, doctor Gary Rosen. He's one of the leading mold experts in the world. I could bring him on.
• 1:06:23
  He's he's he's done a lot of stuff with our technology, and we've got some new things that are coming out. But, yeah, definitely. That'll be a fun one.
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: Well, good, man. Well, Michael, thank you again. Just a reminder to everyone watching and listening, all the links that we talked about, I'm gonna put it into the description. So, not only the link to your website and the products that we talked about and the promo codes, but also, I'll make sure that I put in there the link to the, data center map, and I'm also gonna put in the link to the environmental working group, tap water database. So, you can go on and just check what's in your water.
• 1:06:51
  Actually, I'd start there. Like, that'd be that's like everyone's homework. If you're watching this, go check your water, and go check your location on the data center map, and then figure out, you know, what you wanna do from there. So, anyway, good talking to you, man. It's always always fun.
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  Speaker 2: Awesome, man. God bless. Thank you so much.
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  Speaker 1: You too. Thank you.