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Mike Yam previews the NFL season, Chiefs back in Super Bowl contention (?), Biggest story of the offseason + more · The Sean O'Connell Show

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  Speaker 1: You're tuned to the Sean O'Connell Show for the Murdoch
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  Speaker 1: a FN.
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  Speaker 2: What an appropriate song to come back with for our
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  Speaker 2: next guest. I don't get to talk to him very
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  Speaker 2: often anymore, because, of course I'm not in this space
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  Speaker 2: anymore now as director of broadcasting at the University of Utah,
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  Speaker 2: so I don't deal in the NFL realm as much
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  Speaker 2: as I used to. Most everything's collegiate now. But having
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  Speaker 2: dismiss this charming man, bring us in with our next guest,
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  Speaker 2: NFL Network host and of course man about town in
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  Speaker 2: Los Angeles sometimes just sometimes probably thinks back on the
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  Speaker 2: days where he would try to field punts it's Utah
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  Speaker 2: football practice in the fall, and or hop on the
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  Speaker 2: swagpot copter with Kevin Sumlan, our friend Mike, I am
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  Speaker 2: kind enough to walk down memory lane and talk a
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  Speaker 2: little ball with us today.
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  Speaker 3: How are you, Mike?
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  Speaker 1: There is so much to unpack on the last thirty
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  Speaker 1: seconds of this radio show, and it's like we're just
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  Speaker 1: not even close. We might have to do the whole
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  Speaker 1: arm show together at some point. First of all, Man,
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  Speaker 1: when I get a text message from you about popping on.
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  Speaker 4: You know, the answer is always going to be yes.
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  Speaker 1: I misshopping on with you randomly because I saw the
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  Speaker 1: or heard the rejoin with about Sean O'Connell. I don't
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  Speaker 1: even want to spoil this because at some point I
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  Speaker 1: got to come on and just tell the story with him.
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  Speaker 1: I saw him in person a few weeks ago in
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  Speaker 1: midtown Manhattan, randomly on the streets of New York City.
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  Speaker 1: So that story for another day when OSI's back. But
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  Speaker 1: you and I, man, there's a lot to like, I said,
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  Speaker 1: I'm thrilled we can go down memory lane. You mentioned
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  Speaker 1: catching the punts and the whole thing. I actually thought
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  Speaker 1: about that the other day because Travis Hunter was kicking
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  Speaker 1: field goals. So we were talking on our show on
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  Speaker 1: NFL Network about you know, him maybe being like a
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  Speaker 1: three you know, three way player, and we started talking like, Hey,
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  Speaker 1: how hard do you think it is to kick field goals?
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  Speaker 1: And I'm thinking of myself, Well, one, I've done that
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  Speaker 1: in Salt Lake City. Two I've also, you know, fielded
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  Speaker 1: punts or at least tried to feel the punts. I
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  Speaker 1: shouldn't even say I did it because I didn't, but
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  Speaker 1: I was out there making the attempt. So once again
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  Speaker 1: we could talk fall, we could go down memory lane.
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  Speaker 4: But it's it's great to be with you.
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  Speaker 2: Man, great to be with you too. Were you guess speaking?
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  Speaker 2: Were you back walking the halls of Fordham? Is that
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  Speaker 2: why you were back in the city.
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  Speaker 1: No, the crazy thing I had like a small window before.
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  Speaker 1: And you know how this goes, man, Like we get
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  Speaker 1: we have a college footble around the corner. I'll be
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  Speaker 1: doing the CW this year. I got an NFL Network,
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  Speaker 1: NFL Media and then the NBA. So really on August
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  Speaker 1: twenty ninth, essentially, like there's no days off for a
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  Speaker 1: few months for me. Like you're just you're kind of
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  Speaker 1: everywhere and it's great and it's awesome. So it's the
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  Speaker 1: last time I could see my parents so in person
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  Speaker 1: unless they come out and I tell them not even
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  Speaker 1: come out in the fall because I don't I can't
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  Speaker 1: even hang.
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  Speaker 4: Out with them. So it's kind of thing.
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  Speaker 1: So I was there seeing family. I had my cousins
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  Speaker 1: that were there that I hadn't seen in a while.
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  Speaker 1: It was just like a family thing and it was awesome,
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  Speaker 1: and I get insanely homesick and on my plate home
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  Speaker 1: in Los Angeles, I think, what am I doing? I
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  Speaker 1: need to just try to find any job, you know,
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  Speaker 1: back home, just so I can be closer to them.
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  Speaker 1: But nonetheless than you know, I'm getting ready for the
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  Speaker 1: start of football, So.
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  Speaker 4: We'll table that for another time.
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  Speaker 2: I did the same thing two weeks ago, we went
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  Speaker 2: back to see my parents in their new place in
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  Speaker 2: Kansas City. Because once the kind of the middle of
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  Speaker 2: August hits you, just you don't have that time anymore.
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  Speaker 2: My question is, did you have that big bowl of
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  Speaker 2: fried rice and mar andara while you were back with your.
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  Speaker 1: Parents separately, okay together, not on the same plate, But
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  Speaker 1: I do appreciate the reference big time.
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  Speaker 2: That's Mike's book, by the way. It's a children's book
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  Speaker 2: that he wrote years ago, called fried Rice and mari Andera.
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  Speaker 2: And so if you've got young kids or grandkids and
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  Speaker 2: want a good book to read to them at night,
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  Speaker 2: go try to find Probably it's probably on everything's on Amazon,
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  Speaker 2: So I don't think you do a bookstore somewhere. Just
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  Speaker 2: go to Amazon and click through and buy Mike's book
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  Speaker 2: and read it to your kids or grandkids if you can't.
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  Speaker 2: All right, by the way, congratulations on your new deal.
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  Speaker 2: I was so happy to see that just sticking around.
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  Speaker 2: We all know tough times out here on these media streets,
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  Speaker 2: especially where you work, so that had to feel good
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  Speaker 2: back for another few few years.
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  Speaker 3: What are you doing at network right now?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so, you know, because ESPN and not to get
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  Speaker 1: too much into the broadcast leads of a videos fan
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  Speaker 1: took over NFL Network. So I'll be still with the network.
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  Speaker 1: But NFL Media is still kind of like their their
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  Speaker 1: fast channel, which is essentially any of the shows that
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  Speaker 1: are on connected devices on like you know, rold code too.
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  Speaker 4: If there's a you know, NFL Plus, if there's.
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  Speaker 1: The NFL app that you have on your phone or
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  Speaker 1: on Amazon Prime that is in podcast, that's all NFL Media.
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  Speaker 1: So I will be with them also this season. And
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  Speaker 1: then you know, obviously the CW and MBA TVs. So
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  Speaker 1: very very very fortunate because as you made reference to
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  Speaker 1: the consolidation in this business, and I know it's not
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  Speaker 1: just media. I know it's a lot of tough times
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  Speaker 1: for a lot of a lot of folks. So you know,
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  Speaker 1: I feel very very very fortunate that you know, I
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  Speaker 1: have some of this work.
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  Speaker 2: So you tell me, what's the most interesting story in
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  Speaker 2: the NFL right now?
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  Speaker 4: Oh god, I haven't been asked that question.
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  Speaker 1: I know, because we're always in the leads on on
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  Speaker 1: like what's the story of the day. I think there's well,
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  Speaker 1: I'll tell you this. We spend a lot of time
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  Speaker 1: talking about Fernando Mendoza, and I don't know if that's
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  Speaker 1: the best storyline in the NFL. I think there's some
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  Speaker 1: other ones that sort of stand out to me. Number one,
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  Speaker 1: the health of Patrick Mahomes.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, fan right here, I'm watching those camp
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  Speaker 2: updates every day.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know this, And I know you just
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  Speaker 1: made reference to to your folks in Kansas City, But like,
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  Speaker 1: to me, you go from the peak of your powers,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, straight up dynasty to whatever it was, ten
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  Speaker 1: consecutive years of winning the division and we're talking about,
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  Speaker 1: you know, this perennial super Bowl power to not even
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  Speaker 1: being in the postseason.
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  Speaker 4: Two years ago.
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  Speaker 1: All they kept doing was winning these close games, and
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  Speaker 1: all that happened last year was losing.
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  Speaker 4: All of these close games.
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  Speaker 1: And to me, I just wonder what happens at the
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  Speaker 1: end of this season, if if the Chiefs don't make
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  Speaker 1: the postseason again. Because we spend so much time over
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  Speaker 1: the years, Hey, Josh Allen in this window closing, Like,
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  Speaker 1: I think Josh Allen still looks like a superhero out there.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you have Joe Brady. You know, I love
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  Speaker 1: the DJ more Fit.
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  Speaker 4: Sure, I have some questions about that defense.
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  Speaker 1: But to me, when I look at Kansas City specifically
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  Speaker 1: all the conversation and national attention that they've gotten for
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  Speaker 1: the last ten years, and now if they don't make
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  Speaker 1: the postseason for two consecutive seasons, I then really start
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  Speaker 1: to wonder what this franchise is going to look like.
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  Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of pressure on having some
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  Speaker 1: hits like they've had in the past.
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  Speaker 4: Whether it was the you know, Trent mcduffley certainly comes
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  Speaker 4: to mind.
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  Speaker 1: But these pieces on the defense where they hit in
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  Speaker 1: the draft, like they're trying to rinse and repeat right now,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm really looking for We're just seeing how healthy
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  Speaker 1: Mahomes is. I know we're not going to see him
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  Speaker 1: much in this preseason. I know Justin Fields is starting
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  Speaker 1: this week in renumber two. But the point is, I
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  Speaker 1: think that is one of the injuicier storylines in the
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  Speaker 1: NFL where I'm almost surprised it's not getting a little
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  Speaker 1: bit more attention.
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  Speaker 2: Well, me too, But here's the story that I don't
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  Speaker 2: think is getting enough attention. Though they added Kenneth Walker
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  Speaker 2: and I know they have an elite offensive line, it's
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  Speaker 2: almost as if Andy Reid abandoned the run game the
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  Speaker 2: last couple of years and everybody just dropped eight into
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  Speaker 2: coverage and said, Patrick, you're great, but you're not going
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  Speaker 2: to beat us. When we have eight guys back here,
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  Speaker 2: I think that you're going to see them really, especially
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  Speaker 2: with Mahomes coming off the ACL. I think that they're
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  Speaker 2: going to emphasize the run, and when teams don't have
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  Speaker 2: light boxes anymore and they have to come up, I
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  Speaker 2: think there's going to be more for him to pass.
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  Speaker 2: Now that's my hope. We'll see how that is, but
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  Speaker 2: that's my thought. In Kansas City, I don't think the
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  Speaker 2: Kenneth Walker. I think when they signed him it did.
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  Speaker 2: But everything I'm hearing and reading is you're going to
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  Speaker 2: see a lot more of that ball in Walker's hands
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  Speaker 2: this year than you are, maybe down the field at
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  Speaker 2: least early on.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think they have to and I think, you know,
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  Speaker 1: it's the first time in a little bit here where
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  Speaker 1: I think that there is real pressure on that run
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  Speaker 1: game to actually deliver as a like Keennith is a
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  Speaker 1: known commodity that we feel really good about. And I
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  Speaker 1: think in previous years it was Hey, a little bit
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  Speaker 1: of high feel good, like this could be good. It's
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  Speaker 1: like no, no, no, this will be good because of him.
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  Speaker 4: And here's the other aspect of this.
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  Speaker 1: We're still talking about this offense and at times a
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  Speaker 1: lack of explosiveness downfield without Tyreek Hill. Like we ran
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  Speaker 1: a graphic the other day on NFL Network and I
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  Speaker 1: turned to I think it was Michael Robinson or mjd
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  Speaker 1: or David Carr, one of those guys, and I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: how are we still talking about Tyreek Hill not on
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  Speaker 1: the Chiefs and not necessarily having a guy that's been able.
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  Speaker 4: To fill that void?
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  Speaker 1: Like this is remarkable to me that that's been the case.
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  Speaker 1: But because they've been able to go and win Super
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  Speaker 1: Bowls and Emma Holmes is the guy that you know,
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  Speaker 1: we're still is in that goat conversation. I think that's
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  Speaker 1: mitigated some of that, but I think it becomes more
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  Speaker 1: magnified based off of I think it was a six
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  Speaker 1: win season last year, and you know, obviously it's gonna
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  Speaker 1: be uphill.
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  Speaker 4: This division for them is really tough.
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  Speaker 1: Like I still feel pretty confident in Denver, their defense
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  Speaker 1: is like absolutely bonkers.
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  Speaker 4: I'm I'm you know, I how.
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  Speaker 3: Do you feel?
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  Speaker 2: How do you feel about both nick? How do you
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  Speaker 2: feel about bow Nicks? Now, let's be fair.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, So two things with bo One.
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  Speaker 1: I think he definitely delivered better than most would have anticipated.
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  Speaker 4: One.
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  Speaker 1: Two, I think he doesn't get enough credit for how
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  Speaker 1: strong of an arm he does have. I think that's
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  Speaker 1: been a more display for him in Denver than it was,
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  Speaker 1: you know, in college. So that's that's two. You know,
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  Speaker 1: Am I ready to call him an elite guy? No?
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  Speaker 1: But I look at their defense and I think it's
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  Speaker 1: a lead and I think that makes a lot of
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  Speaker 1: quarterbacks look really good, you know, and they did win
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  Speaker 1: that division. And candidly, if he's not hurt, you know,
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  Speaker 1: maybe we're talking about them, you know, against the Patriots,
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  Speaker 1: maybe we're talking about them as the super Bowl team.
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  Speaker 1: So it's you know, do I think New England's getting
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  Speaker 1: back to a super Bowl this year?
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  Speaker 3: No?
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  Speaker 1: Do I think Seattle, know, just because it's so hard
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  Speaker 1: to do that which makes it by the way that
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  Speaker 1: Chiefs runs so so spectacular. But you know, Denver to me,
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  Speaker 1: if you said, like, hey, pick, I don't know four
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  Speaker 1: or five teams, If you were making an educated guest
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  Speaker 1: on who could be in the super Bowl, Denver would
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  Speaker 1: be they would be.
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  Speaker 4: On my list.
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  Speaker 1: And I don't think I guess I'm indirectly answering your question. Bill,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if I could say that if I
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  Speaker 1: didn't have confidence in bonus.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, fair enough, Mike GAM's with us, our friend from
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  Speaker 2: the NFL network. You mentioned Josh Allen, and I think
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  Speaker 2: Josh Allen is a fantastic talent, but Josh Allen doesn't
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  Speaker 2: play his best in the playoffs, as we saw last year.
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  Speaker 2: If there was ever a year for Buffalo to get
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  Speaker 2: to the Super Bowl in Josh Allen to do it,
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  Speaker 2: everything was set for him to do it a year
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  Speaker 2: ago and he wasn't able to do it. So I mean, again,
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  Speaker 2: I'm not saying he's not a very good player and
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  Speaker 2: an elite talent, and you'd love to have him on
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  Speaker 2: your fantasy football team, but at some point in time,
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  Speaker 2: Josh Allen's got to do so you didn't have the
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  Speaker 2: Mahomes thing hanging over him last year.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, he didn't have thirteen seconds last year.
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  Speaker 2: He had a beat up Denver team and he turned
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  Speaker 2: it over four times and he was really the reason
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  Speaker 2: they lost and maybe big reason why McDermott got fired.
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  Speaker 2: So I mean, is it kind of put up or
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  Speaker 2: shut up time now for Josh Allen in Buffalo?
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  Speaker 1: You know, I agree wholeheartedly with a lot of the
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  Speaker 1: things that you just said, But then I take a
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  Speaker 1: step back and I say, Okay.
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  Speaker 4: I can make the same exact claim for two time
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  Speaker 4: MVP and Lamar Jackson.
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  Speaker 3: Oh sure sure.
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  Speaker 1: And you know we were having a conversation before last season,
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  Speaker 1: when are we going to see Clemson.
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  Speaker 4: Trevor Lawrence Like this is a make or.
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  Speaker 1: Break year, and yet their offense, you know, basically weeks
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  Speaker 1: eleven through the end of the season was putting up
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  Speaker 1: like thirty four points per game and they were able
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  Speaker 1: to find another year that's there. So I almost feel like,
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  Speaker 1: and I don't really, I got to give this more
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  Speaker 1: thought and maybe you know, the next time you go
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  Speaker 1: back on Radio Bill, I'll have a better, more educated,
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  Speaker 1: thoughtful response to this. But that's what makes a guy
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  Speaker 1: like Mahomes for example, just so damn special because if
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  Speaker 1: you said to me, like even your question before about Bo,
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  Speaker 1: like how confident are you? Like why don't think he's
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  Speaker 1: my homes right? But you know, like you know how
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  Speaker 1: different you know, do I have more confidence in Josh
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  Speaker 1: Allen or Lamar than I do both?
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  Speaker 3: Now?
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  Speaker 4: Probably have a little more confidence obviously in those other
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  Speaker 4: guys because.
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  Speaker 1: The sample size is so much bigger. But you're right, like,
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  Speaker 1: where are those postseason wins? And I think when the
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  Speaker 1: lights are the brightest guy that you know that one year. Actually,
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  Speaker 1: Kansas City goes to Baltimore a couple of years ago
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  Speaker 1: in an AFC championship game in Baltimore and we're talking
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  Speaker 1: about whatever it was. Three design runs for Lamar Jackson.
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  Speaker 1: That's like their best opportunity to go and knock off
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  Speaker 1: those dudes. Like to win some of these games, you've
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  Speaker 1: got to win in the margins. And I don't want
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  Speaker 1: to blame just quarterbacks, although clearly that could be the
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  Speaker 1: difference for ninety percent of these teams. But sometimes, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: think about the matches of the Rams Pad against Seattle,
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  Speaker 1: Like these were absolute street fights out on the football field.
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  Speaker 1: It was awesome, and yet I could make a compelling case.
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  Speaker 1: We're talking about one two plays that would have had
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  Speaker 1: the Rams playing in the Super Bowl, and by the way,
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  Speaker 1: I think, you know, La would have beaten and probably
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  Speaker 1: smashed you know, New England like Seattle did. So all
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  Speaker 1: of these little moments that add up and stack over time,
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  Speaker 1: you know, might be the difference. But I'm with you,
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  Speaker 1: it was probably a different you know, probably the right
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  Speaker 1: time for Buffalo to go and make make a change
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  Speaker 1: with McDermott and go to Joe Brady. But I'd also argue,
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  Speaker 1: like there's a lot of pressure right now on Joe
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  Speaker 1: to try to get over the hump Sean McDermott. You know,
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  Speaker 1: you look at collectively what he was able to do
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  Speaker 1: in Buffalo. I mean, it was a remarkable run. No
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  Speaker 1: Super Bowl, clearly, and some exits in the post season
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  Speaker 1: that you love to take back. But you know, they
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  Speaker 1: were perennial power in the NFL for the last couple
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  Speaker 1: of years, and a lot of that is out because
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  Speaker 1: of him and what Josh has been able to do
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  Speaker 1: on the field. But I'm telling you, like, it is
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  Speaker 1: really difficult to win these biggest games, and these guys
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  Speaker 1: are compensated to do so, and they have to be special.
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  Speaker 4: But you're right, you hit.
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  Speaker 1: The nail on the head like this is the time,
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  Speaker 1: Like Josh's got to deliver right now, and this has
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  Speaker 1: got great opportunity for him.
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  Speaker 2: AFC to NFC. You mentioned two teams a minute ago.
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  Speaker 2: One I think isn't getting enough talk. One I think
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  Speaker 2: might be getting maybe a little too much talk.
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  Speaker 3: Both in the NFC West.
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  Speaker 2: I don't feel like we're giving the Seahawks their flowers
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  Speaker 2: quite enough.
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  Speaker 4: Now.
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  Speaker 2: You're right, things fell well for them, but they dominated
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  Speaker 2: and won the Super Bowl. I feel like they're a
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  Speaker 2: bit of an afterthought as a defending Super Bowl champion.
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  Speaker 2: And then we've got the Rams, who could have maybe
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  Speaker 2: been in the Super Bowl last year. And I know
• 14:46
  Speaker 2: they're a loaded team and they should be the favor
• 14:49
  Speaker 2: I get it, but we're kind of talking about this
• 14:51
  Speaker 2: Rams team who didn't make the Super Bowl last year
• 14:54
  Speaker 2: as a super team that hasn't really done now. I
• 14:57
  Speaker 2: know Stafford won a Super Bowl a few years ago,
• 15:00
  Speaker 2: but there's a lot here. And I sometimes feel when
• 15:02
  Speaker 2: we build these teams up in the preseason, there's always
• 15:05
  Speaker 2: one or two teams where that air comes out of
• 15:07
  Speaker 2: the balloon and I don't know if that's going to
• 15:09
  Speaker 2: be the Rams, but I kind of feel like they're
• 15:11
  Speaker 2: getting a lot of hype and maybe Seattle's not getting enough,
• 15:14
  Speaker 2: which is probably fine with Mike McDonald.
• 15:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, look, Seattle fans. You know, actually last year during
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: the college football season, I was working with Michael Bumpus,
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: who used to be Washington state wide receiver actually played
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: in Seattle.
• 15:27
  Speaker 4: As well, but he does a radio show in Seattle.
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: So every Saturday we're talking about the Seahawks and he'd
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: be like, Yeahmer, how come you guys don't talk more
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: about Seattle? And I'm like, I know, man, I'm trying.
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: I'm trying, And there's a chip on the shoulder. And
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: then sure enough, you know, they make the run and
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: they win the Super Bowl, and it's like, aha, Like
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: the national media, what are you guys doing. You're not
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: paying attention to everyone. You know, there's a little old
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: team in the Pacific Northwest just absolutely dominated the Patriots
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: and the Super Bowl and are a really good team.
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: There's a couple of things to play. One, you know,
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: the Kobiak thing. You mentioned Kenneth Walker Walker aside what
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: Kobyack was able to do with.
• 15:59
  Speaker 4: Sam, I think is really special and unique, and I think.
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: That's why there's buzz around Vegas when you lose your
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: offensive coordinator. We've seen other teams where that's been a
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: little bit of an issue. Uh you know that that's
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: I think that's a red flag. I'm not saying that
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: they can't overcome it. I'm not even suggesting it. With
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: JSN and Sam is going to come into this season
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: more confident than he's ever played in his entire life
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: coming off of that Super Bowl, do they deserve more credit? Yeah,
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: you're probably, You're probably right, But I would argue, you know,
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: some I look on paper and I know it's just paper,
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: but the bill tell me the team.
• 16:33
  Speaker 4: Better on paper right now than the Rams are.
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: Like, I don't even know. I don't know the weak
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: point of that team at this point. Like I I
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: look at this roster and I just say, what's even
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: their identity?
• 16:43
  Speaker 4: You know?
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: Sometimes you go, oh it's on the defensive side. Oh
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: it's on the offensive side. I mean, pick pick your side.
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: Like an ad by the way might be coming back,
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: because we're talking about a future fall Fall of Famer
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: that might be lined up with with Miles Garrett, like
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: Aaron Dell could roll out of bed because Garrett is
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: on on that on that field and get double digit sacks.
• 17:01
  Speaker 4: I mean, it's gonna be bonkers.
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: You know about Watsington and McDuffie more than most because
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: of your you know, Washington Kansas ate like that secondary
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: is gonna be so much better.
• 17:10
  Speaker 4: McDuffie is one of my favorite players in the league.
• 17:12
  Speaker 4: And then we haven't even talked about.
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: The reigning MVP with Stafford and Pooka and all these dudes,
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: Like I think that's why it's so the storyline around
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: that team, man.
• 17:22
  Speaker 4: Is remarkable.
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: And you know the worst part about this, And I'm
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: going to say this because I know I'm on Salt
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: Lake I'm in Salt Lake City right now on the radio,
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: and I wouldn't say that it's not in Los Angeles radio,
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: but it's true. The fan base obviously, and I was
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: around Utah football and you know, like it's just it's unbelievable.
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: It's awesome the musk or rocking that those are fans.
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: And in Los Angeles, when you have a team that
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: looks like this with the Rams, you know what's gonna
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: happen When when like the Niners come to LA, it's
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: gonna be like it's gonna be red inside Sofi Stadium,
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: And I think that's like the disappointing thing. Like I
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: think there's a lack of appreciation even in their own
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: darn city for what this team is.
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's interesting both those teams that play in that stadium.
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: The Charger fan base kind of stayed in San Diego.
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: There's a little bit of a fan base there that's growing.
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: And the Rams maybe because they were gone for so long,
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: it doesn't feel like that fan base is totally body
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: in either.
• 18:16
  Speaker 4: It's they're not.
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: I was leaving the studio yesterday and if there's a
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: preseason game.
• 18:23
  Speaker 4: For I mean, it just is a lot different.
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, let me just say this, Like the Chargers are
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: rolling up for a preseason game and it's quiet.
• 18:33
  Speaker 4: I mean I expected more traffic. Like was I.
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: Smiling on my way to home? Get home because I
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: got home in a reasonable time. Hell yeah. But I'm
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: thinking to myself, how is it not just bonkers out here?
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: Because in most NFL cities it would.
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: Be Thursday afternoon you should be taking the swag chopper
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: home avoid that La traffic. Maybe Kevin, someone can loan
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: it to I don't think he probably has proprietal rights
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: of the swag Chopper anymore since he's not a head coach.
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: Right, no question, Although I think it's going to be
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: awesome to use this reference now when lebron is living
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: in New York City and commuting to Philadelphia, so he's.
• 19:09
  Speaker 4: Using this lag copter. I like it.
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: I'm going to start using that again on NBA TV
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: when we start talking to Hoops.
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: I think you should because maybe he bought it at
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: a really discounted rate from from Kevin Sumlin after his
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: limited use of it at the University of Arizona. Where
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: can we say, tell her, I'm obviously NFL network kind
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: of Monday through Thursday stuff. But where else can we
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: see you right now?
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: Yam?
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: Or Yeah, a ton of the NFL channel, which, once again,
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: you know, if you got a connected TV or YouTube
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: or you know, Amazon Prime or NFL plots, that's going
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: to actually be the bulk of my work. I got
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: a ton of stuff around college football on Saturdays with
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: the CW. I'm just working out my schedule now with
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: NBA TV, So there's a lot and it's going to
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: be awesome. Man, Like I honestly, am so jacked up.
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: And I hope you're doing the radio show again pretty
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: soon and be awesome to catch up with you in
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: OC and do the whole thing.
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it'd be great. NBA TV, do they fly to
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: Atlanta or you just do it out of La.
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: No, it's Atlanta. When when Turner lost, you know in
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: the NBA rights, NBA CD is no longer down there,
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: so they are production. I mean, like talk about the
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: best case scenario. You know, I'm here, you know I
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: love hoops. My first TV job is actually NBA TV,
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: so it was pretty cool to go back.
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: But they're on Burdbank, so I just I do the
• 20:24
  Speaker 4: drive to Burbank.
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: It's amazing. He's putting miles up after needed. No swap
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: chopper needed there to get into the valley. All right, Hey,
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: thanks so much for doing this today. It's great catching
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: up and again, uh have funder college football season.
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: Let's CW and we'll talk to you soon.
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: No, And seriously, man, I really do I miss I
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: missed these conversations. I miss OC, and I really do
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: miss being in Salt Lake City as much as I
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: used to get there when I was at the PAC
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: twelve like it's an awesome town. It's still one of
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: my favorites. So every time I see Utah football or
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: anything related.
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: To it, I always smile. So looking forward to a
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: good season this year.
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: Thanks Shammer.
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: I am with us here on the Shadow Condle Shit
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: today here on utahs number one sports dot