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Fresh as a Daisy with Daisy Kent · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast
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Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio.
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Speaker 2: This season was unlike any other.
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Speaker 3: It was celebrated, it was watched, it was cried over,
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Speaker 3: It's been talked about, and we have one of, if
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Speaker 3: not the most talked about contestant from the season on
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Speaker 3: the show today, Daisy.
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Speaker 2: Welcome.
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Speaker 4: Hi, happy to be here.
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Speaker 5: Hi Daisy. That just made me think. First question is
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Speaker 5: how do you feel about being like the most followed
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Speaker 5: girl from the show in a very long time, the
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Speaker 5: most followed non lead and like the years since, like
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Speaker 5: the Peter season, have we seen this? What do you
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Speaker 5: think it was about you that people were like, I
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Speaker 5: must follow this girl.
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Speaker 4: I mean, it's definitely been really exciting, and I think
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Speaker 4: it's my story is really unique, and I think a
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Speaker 4: lot of people related to it that had been through
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Speaker 4: anything health, like any health issues. It was also a
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Speaker 4: really unique time in my life too, because it was
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Speaker 4: pretty new for me to have a cochlear implant and
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Speaker 4: so those like new moments were captured, which I thought
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Speaker 4: was really cool and I'm really production did such a
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Speaker 4: good job too with capturing those So I don't know,
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Speaker 4: I like it was really exciting. I don't necessarily know
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Speaker 4: exactly why it was me, but I'm really grateful for it.
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Speaker 3: Well, I mean, I personally think there's a relatability to you.
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Speaker 3: I also think that you were vulnerable with a mini things,
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Speaker 3: and then I think your style. I think obviously people
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Speaker 3: from the show love to kind of follow what you're
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Speaker 3: wearing and why you're wearing it, and it is one
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Speaker 3: of the interesting and I've never thought about until this season,
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Speaker 3: until you're coming on to day.
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Speaker 2: One of the cool parts about the Bachelor is that.
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Speaker 3: You're wearing these clothes and for the most part, these
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Speaker 3: are clothes that are very accessible to the general public.
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Speaker 3: Right You're not dressed up like a red carpet wearing
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Speaker 3: your five thousand dollars dress so you can show it
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Speaker 3: off one night. These are clothes that you're either like
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Speaker 3: bringing from your closet or maybe going on like a
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Speaker 3: little run to a department store to pick up Have
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Speaker 3: you gotten a lot of like people reaching out wondering
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Speaker 3: you know where you got your clothes from? And my
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Speaker 3: fallow up to this is did you expect to be
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Speaker 3: known for your style?
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Speaker 4: No? I didn't, And actually I give credit to my
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Speaker 4: friends because when I was going on the show, and
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Speaker 4: they were helping me pack. I had one night where
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Speaker 4: like a few of my closest girlfriends came over a
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Speaker 4: couple days before I left, and we went through every
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Speaker 4: single outfit that I was going to bring on and
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Speaker 4: they made me a list because they were like, Daisy,
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Speaker 4: this is going to be a disaster because we know
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Speaker 4: you if you don't have something to be a little
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Speaker 4: bit organized. So they made me a list of like
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Speaker 4: every single outfit. It was like daytime outfit, but like
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Speaker 4: top and pantsy wear with what shoes, how you should
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Speaker 4: do your hair like they did everything for me. But
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Speaker 4: it was cool to see. But I also tried to
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Speaker 4: dress and like way that I normally dress to express myself.
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Speaker 4: So yeah, it was fun though, and I had a
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Speaker 4: lot of my friend's old prom dresses I wore though
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Speaker 4: I was scavengean.
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Speaker 5: You have had like there already so many things come
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Speaker 5: out about you over the past couple weeks, like rumors, right,
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Speaker 5: so you have this there's this TikTok where you and
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Speaker 5: John Henry are close on the couch and people are
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Speaker 5: speculating that you're dating, and then we you're not, Okay,
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Speaker 5: you're not dating John Henry would you, is there somebody
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Speaker 5: from the Bachelor franchise that you would be interested in.
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Speaker 4: I don't know, not off the top of my head.
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Speaker 4: I'm kind of just doing my thing right now.
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Speaker 6: Honestly, Well, you won't.
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Speaker 5: We know why you don't want to be the bachelorette
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Speaker 5: because you had, you know, you just feel like it
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Speaker 5: wasn't the appropriate role for you. You don't feel like
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Speaker 5: dating like that, you don't feel like hurting people's feelings,
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Speaker 5: you don't feel like being under the emotional and physical
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Speaker 5: stress of it all totally understandable. Would you do Paradise though,
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Speaker 5: because it is a lot more relaxed.
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Speaker 4: Well, yeah, you've done Paradise.
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Speaker 6: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: Did you like it?
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Speaker 5: Well, I met my husband on it, so yeah, I
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Speaker 5: did like it.
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Speaker 3: But it was the biggest advocate. She thinks it's the
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Speaker 3: best thing in the world.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think.
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Speaker 6: You'd like I think you'd enjoy Well, you get a
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Speaker 6: lot out of it.
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Speaker 4: Okay, then maybe I'll consider it. But Okay, in this moment,
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Speaker 4: I would have to say no, but I would really Yeah,
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Speaker 4: I think i think I'm ready to just not do
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Speaker 4: that for a second.
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Speaker 6: Did you like not like being on TV?
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Speaker 4: I actually loved it? And I had a really great time.
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Speaker 4: I just think it wasn't I mean, it's hard because,
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Speaker 4: like I don't have anything bad to say about it.
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Speaker 4: I just think I kind of needed a breather from
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Speaker 4: reality tv for a second.
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Speaker 3: Smart it's you know, I think for jin and we're
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Speaker 3: gonna talk about gen just a little bit. The difficulty
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Speaker 3: with being the Bachelorette is that you really don't have
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Speaker 3: a break.
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Speaker 2: Now.
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Speaker 3: With the Bachelor, you get a little break in between.
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Speaker 3: You get some months to kind of breathe get back
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Speaker 3: to your life, see your friends, kind of adjust, hear
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Speaker 3: all the criticism and also hear all the praise, and
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Speaker 3: you kind of get some like you just get used
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Speaker 3: to it a little bit more. I think, Yeah, with
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Speaker 3: the Bachelorette, you're rolling right in to filming and it
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Speaker 3: feels like you haven't been off camera then for six
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Speaker 3: months straight, which I will say is fairly unhealthy. It's
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Speaker 3: really hard. So I want to dig in a little
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Speaker 3: bit to your decision to say, Hey, the Bachelorette is
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Speaker 3: not my role. You said you needed a break from
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Speaker 3: reality television. When you say that, what do you actually mean.
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Speaker 4: I think just the stress of everything too. I think
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Speaker 4: I didn't. Obviously i'd watched The Bachelor, I'll go, but
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Speaker 4: I don't think I understood because when I was watching it,
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Speaker 4: I mean I would always watch it, and I would
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Speaker 4: go and like follow girls or guys some of like
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Speaker 4: my favorites that were on the show. But I think
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Speaker 4: it's a completely different experience when it's you going through
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Speaker 4: it and you're also seeing everything that everyone's staying online,
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Speaker 4: which I do a good job of like dismissing it.
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Speaker 4: But I think part of the reaction I wasn't expected
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Speaker 4: to have for me when people were like saying negative
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Speaker 4: things about how I talk and my cochlear implant and
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Speaker 4: stuff like that, and I guess it just made me
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Speaker 4: realize like how mean people can be online, which like
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Speaker 4: I have taken enough skin to deal with it. But
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Speaker 4: I think in a way being the Bachelorette too, it
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Speaker 4: was something that I took into consideration because I feel
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Speaker 4: like people are so much or can be so much
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Speaker 4: more judgmental towards women, and especially the lead in that case,
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Speaker 4: and I I just didn't want to get in a
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Speaker 4: bad head space and I'm in such a good space
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Speaker 4: right now, and I didn't want anything to mess with
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Speaker 4: that because I am happy, and I haven't always been happy,
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Speaker 4: and so I didn't want anything to negatively affect that.
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Speaker 4: So I think that was kind of a reason too,
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Speaker 4: if I'm being honest. But I think and also like,
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Speaker 4: you don't get to talk to your family or your
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Speaker 4: friends in this whole little world, and I just felt like,
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Speaker 4: right now is a time for me to kind of
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Speaker 4: focus on the things I want to do and spend
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Speaker 4: time with my family and friends and everyone. But it
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Speaker 4: is hard too because it's like now I'm rambling. I'm like,
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Speaker 4: I know it's a huge opportunity too, but I just
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Speaker 4: felt like it wasn't the right place and time for me.
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Speaker 5: So you said this week that production was very nice
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Speaker 5: and accepting of your decision, But do you think that
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Speaker 5: you were like the first person who just really rejected
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Speaker 5: them when they fully play end on you being the bachelorette?
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Speaker 4: I mean I was. I was very open and honest
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Speaker 4: with them through the whole process, and I think they
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Speaker 4: were kind of hoping I was going to do it
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Speaker 4: and turn around you, yeah, because part of me did
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Speaker 4: want to do it, But but no, I feel like
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Speaker 4: there's been other people. I mean, I don't think we
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Speaker 4: always know, but I think there's probably definitely been other people.
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Speaker 4: But I also think it's hard when you're in that
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Speaker 4: situation because if you would have asked me, like ever
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Speaker 4: in my life, Oh, you're gonna potentially be the bachelorette,
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Speaker 4: what would you say? No? I would be like no,
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Speaker 4: like I'd say yes, yeah. So I don't know. I
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Speaker 4: think it's just weird when you're in that position.
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Speaker 2: It's a it is a unique situation.
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Speaker 4: Do you have a date not doing it? Uh?
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Speaker 2: Not really.
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Speaker 3: I think I teased with them, like I think during
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Speaker 3: my filming, I said, hey, I don't know if i'd
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Speaker 3: want it, and I really don't. Didn't think I knew
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Speaker 3: until afterwards, because you don't really understand what the show
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Speaker 3: is and what it does to you personally until it
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Speaker 3: starts airing on television. Yeah, and once I start airing
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Speaker 3: on television, then there was a whole new kind of.
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Speaker 2: Weight of anxiety that I felt.
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Speaker 3: But I also for me felt like, quite honestly, my
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Speaker 3: life was just not in a place that anything else
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Speaker 3: cool was happening, and so I was like, I need
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Speaker 3: to do this, like I don't have a lot else
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Speaker 3: to fall back on. And I think that's where I
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Speaker 3: was trying like, just take the risk and take the step.
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Speaker 3: I do understand, though, if you're looking at your life
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Speaker 3: and you're like, there's some other things I'm very excited about.
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Speaker 3: I feel very at peace with where I am personally,
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Speaker 3: then I think it would be an easier decision be
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Speaker 3: like not for me. I also think it's worth noting
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Speaker 3: that it was a different time in the show. When
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Speaker 3: I was on it, right seven years ago, the show
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Speaker 3: was still kind of at its peak, I would say,
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Speaker 3: and your season, well, Joey's season with you on it
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Speaker 3: really brought it back I think to that kind of level.
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Speaker 3: But it's it's a tough road ahead because people are
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Speaker 3: still in this kind of mindset of they're judging before
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Speaker 3: loving when they watch it. Back then it was more
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Speaker 3: loving before judging.
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Speaker 4: So true, Yeah, definitely.
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Speaker 3: Well, and I think it's really interesting in your because
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Speaker 3: you would have been a very popular choice. I think
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Speaker 3: people would have been ecstatic to watch more of you.
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Speaker 3: I also think, though, there is this level of people
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Speaker 3: get viewer exhaustion, so Jin kind of has the benefit
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Speaker 3: of we don't really know her, and so it's going
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Speaker 3: to be taking a long time for people to get
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Speaker 3: sick of her. They will. It happens every season. It
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Speaker 3: just does at some point, people you know will bring
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Speaker 3: on criticism. But for somebody like you, except for well,
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Speaker 3: but we didn't know Joey going in. It took us
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Speaker 3: a while to get to know him, and then once
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Speaker 3: we got to know him, it took you know, nobody
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Speaker 3: really ever got sick of him. I do think there's
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Speaker 3: a benefit in not being like main character coming onto
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Speaker 3: the show.
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Speaker 2: Yea, as definitely as the Bachelorette.
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Speaker 6: But I feel like.
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Speaker 4: People will be very intrigue to learn more about her.
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Speaker 3: I think they're going to be fascinated by her because
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Speaker 3: I mean, and we're going to get into that later.
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Speaker 3: I want to hear kind of what you know about
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Speaker 3: her and what we can expect to see. But like,
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Speaker 3: as you mentioned, you've been a fan of the show
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Speaker 3: and you've watched the show. Now I got to go
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Speaker 3: back and see if you follow me, because you said
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Speaker 3: you follow your favorites from.
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Speaker 4: The past, and so I do follow you.
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Speaker 3: Okay, good, That's that's important because it was going to
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Speaker 3: get very awkward here for a second. But now being
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Speaker 3: on the show and being a fan, being a support
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Speaker 3: of the show has it ruined the show at all
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Speaker 3: for you, changed your perspective on the show kind of
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Speaker 3: what is it done now that you've seen how the
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Speaker 3: meat is made.
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Speaker 4: I think if I'm looking at my experience, I would
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Speaker 4: say it made it even better for me because I
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Speaker 4: did have such a great experience. And I know not
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Speaker 4: everyone can always say that, but I had like the
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Speaker 4: best experience and if I went back to that time, like,
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Speaker 4: I would do it again hand sownd But I, yeah,
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Speaker 4: I had the time of my life, honestly. But yeah,
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Speaker 4: I think it's just something when you're like going in
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Speaker 4: to do it. I would say, be like, you need
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Speaker 4: to be very sure of who you are when you're
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Speaker 4: going into it, and if you're not, then I think
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Speaker 4: it can be a little bit messy for you. But
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Speaker 4: I think for me, I was so sure of who
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Speaker 4: I am, and I think if I would have done
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Speaker 4: it even like a year ago, it probably won't have
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Speaker 4: been a good situation for me. But I think I
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Speaker 4: think just the time I'm at in my life, I
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Speaker 4: think it was a really good thing for me. And yeah,
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Speaker 4: I don't, I don't. I had, Yeah, I had a
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Speaker 4: great time.
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Speaker 5: So Daisy, let's go back to the show for a second,
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Speaker 5: especially towards the end, because you've been honest this week
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Speaker 5: about the fact that you felt like something was missing
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Speaker 5: with Joey, like you always liked him, you felt like
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Speaker 5: you had a great vibe that there's just like something missing.
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Speaker 5: And you really discovered this when it was you, Kelsey
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Speaker 5: and him together at that Rose ceremony and you could
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Speaker 5: see the difference. But did you feel like it was
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Speaker 5: like did you feel sad when you saw the difference
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Speaker 5: or were you just like, oh, there is so there
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Speaker 5: is something missing and you were kind of like accepting
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Speaker 5: of that.
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Speaker 4: I think I was accepting, but I think in that
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Speaker 4: moment it is difficult because like up and up until
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Speaker 4: that moment, I think it's actually going from Jasper to hometowns,
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Speaker 4: I thought it was me and then I think in
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Speaker 4: that moment too, so it is a little bit shocking also.
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Speaker 4: But I think I was accepting of it because there
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Speaker 4: was part of me that was always like, I don't
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Speaker 4: know if this is it, but every time we were
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Speaker 4: together it was so much fun and we had such
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Speaker 4: a great time. So I think I had a hard
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Speaker 4: time admitting that part to myself. But I think Partomi
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Speaker 4: always knew a little bit.
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Speaker 5: So then what would have happened if you thought in
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Speaker 5: that last week that he was going to pick you, Like,
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Speaker 5: would you have been the one who dumped him and
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Speaker 5: made all of his greatest fears come true?
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Speaker 4: I have no idea. It's hard for me to put
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Speaker 4: myself in that position because, like, I don't know, it
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Speaker 4: didn't happen, but I think I'm like, I'm the type
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Speaker 4: of person that, like, I'll always try to make it work.
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Speaker 4: But yeah, it's definitely like it was meant to be
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Speaker 4: him and Kelsey for sure.
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Speaker 3: The interesting thing here for me in trying to dive
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Speaker 3: into your thought process and tell me if I'm wrong.
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Speaker 3: It sounds like the major disconnect was when you saw
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Speaker 3: the two of them together before that, were you doubting
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Speaker 3: anything or were you full steam ahead.
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Speaker 4: Before that? The only time I would doubt things is
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Speaker 4: I remember all of the girls, like we'd all be
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Speaker 4: sitting together, and I felt like everyone was like I
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Speaker 4: think I was really cautious with the whole thing too,
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Speaker 4: And everyone I felt like was falling in love way
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Speaker 4: faster than I was, And I was like, am I
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Speaker 4: supposed to be there yet? But it's just it's a
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Speaker 4: weird situation, and you're not used to be put like
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Speaker 4: in that type of situation, So I think I was
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Speaker 4: very cautious. But I think also part of it was
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Speaker 4: when I was with him, I was having like such
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Speaker 4: a great time, but then also when we were around
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Speaker 4: all other girls, I never felt I would never get
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Speaker 4: very jealous. And I don't know if that should have
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Speaker 4: been like a red flag to me, because I mean,
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Speaker 4: I know jealousy is like a bad thing, but I
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Speaker 4: feel like in this type of situation, I probably should
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Speaker 4: have felt a little bit more jealous. I don't know,
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Speaker 4: but it's interesting. Yeah, but I remember feeling that way,
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Speaker 4: and I was always like, maybe it's I think it's
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Speaker 4: just because I am so confident in where me and
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Speaker 4: him are at, which I was too, because I would
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Speaker 4: always get like validation from him. But yeah, but then
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Speaker 4: part of me, like, I do wonder a little bit
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Speaker 4: if that was because maybe it was kind of like
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Speaker 4: something that I should have paid more attention to. If
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Speaker 4: does that make sense. I don't know if that.
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Speaker 3: It does make sense totally. But speaking of jealousy, something
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Speaker 3: that I think was a miracle of this season watching
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Speaker 3: it and you're a part of it, was that it
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Speaker 3: was very clear from like week one who the front
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Speaker 3: runner were.
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Speaker 2: Those front runners never changed.
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Speaker 3: It was you and Kelsey the whole time, clearly to
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Speaker 3: everybody watching, typically well being in the house myself and
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Speaker 3: coming to a few seasons when there's two front runners
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Speaker 3: or even one front runner, the house kind of collapses
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Speaker 3: in on itself. The other contestants can feel it, they
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Speaker 3: can sense it, they can see it, and there is
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Speaker 3: a lot of jealousy, drama comes about, and then people
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Speaker 3: typically just go home at some point because they're like
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Speaker 3: this is stupid, Like what am I doing here any longer?
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Speaker 4: Yeah?
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Speaker 2: How did like how did the house function?
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Speaker 3: And I guess the question has to also assume that
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Speaker 3: they understood and saw that the two of you were
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Speaker 3: front runners or did that never become apparent to anybody
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Speaker 3: else the whole time?
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Speaker 4: I think it was because girls would talk to me
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Speaker 4: and tell me that they thought I was one or
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Speaker 4: that I was going to be like very very far,
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Speaker 4: and people would say that about Kelsey two, and so
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Speaker 4: I think people did know and like see it. But
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Speaker 4: also it's like you never know, because I think sometimes
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Speaker 4: it's like there's a front runner and then they get
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Speaker 4: a certain like spot like halfway through the season and
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Speaker 4: then they just kind of like fall off. So I
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Speaker 4: don't know, and I think just me and Kelsey kind
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Speaker 4: of being how we are. We are both like always
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Speaker 4: very nice to everyone and got along with pretty much,
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Speaker 4: I would say, honestly everyone in the house. And so
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Speaker 4: I don't know, but I know what you're saying, but
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Speaker 4: I don't think so with me and her. I think
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Speaker 4: it was Yeah, for some reason, there wasn't. But maybe
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Speaker 4: it's too there was a lot of other drama going
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Speaker 4: on too that aren't focused on that.
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Speaker 3: And I just think it is a miracle of this season.
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Speaker 3: I've never seen a season where there's been two clear
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Speaker 3: front runners that have walked through it without anyone ever
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Speaker 3: kind of putting a target on their back and starting to,
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Speaker 3: you know, disrupt.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's true. Put it that way.
19:04
Speaker 3: It's very interesting and it might be. I mean, I
19:07
Speaker 3: think it gives a lot of credit to you and
19:09
Speaker 3: Kelsey and how you handled it and probably what you
19:11
Speaker 3: said and didn't say. And also I think the key
19:16
Speaker 3: point here for anybody listening who watches the show is
19:19
Speaker 3: your confidence. I think also played a role in that
19:22
Speaker 3: because you could be confident internally, you didn't have to
19:25
Speaker 3: be confident externally to also say things and throw off
19:30
Speaker 3: anybody else and kind of push them out of the
19:31
Speaker 3: way on your path towards the end, or to at
19:35
Speaker 3: least making the decision to stay or to go. And
19:37
Speaker 3: so I think the two of your's confidence really played
19:41
Speaker 3: a role in that.
19:41
Speaker 4: Also, Yeah, definitely thank you.
19:45
Speaker 5: What's your relationship with like with Kelsey like now, because like,
19:49
Speaker 5: did things get awkward after you, you know, had the
19:53
Speaker 5: joint car ride and there was just like not a
19:59
Speaker 5: stereotypical ending.
20:02
Speaker 4: Yeah, I would say afterwards, I think it's just kind
20:07
Speaker 4: of crazy coming off the show because you're in this bubble.
20:10
Speaker 4: And so we came off and I really kind of
20:13
Speaker 4: kept to myself. I didn't talk to really any of
20:16
Speaker 4: the girls besides Autumn, Chrisa and Kelsey t right at
20:22
Speaker 4: the beginning, and then me and Rachel. Rachel reached out
20:26
Speaker 4: to me and we kind of started talking, and then
20:28
Speaker 4: me and Kelsey talked a few times. I think when
20:30
Speaker 4: it started airing, I felt like it got a little
20:34
Speaker 4: bit weird maybe, but then like me and her, we
20:39
Speaker 4: were very like we understood like the relationship we had
20:43
Speaker 4: on the show and the friendship we created, so we
20:45
Speaker 4: just kept kind of talking through it and then yeah,
20:49
Speaker 4: so but I would say maybe a little bit, but
20:52
Speaker 4: now everything's kind of back to normal. But I think
20:54
Speaker 4: it is too You're on the show and that happens,
20:57
Speaker 4: and then it's kind of this whole different thing when
20:58
Speaker 4: it's airing back and everyone else is putting in their opinions,
21:02
Speaker 4: and so I think it does get a little heavy
21:05
Speaker 4: on people sometimes. But overall, I would say our relationships
21:09
Speaker 4: really good.
21:10
Speaker 5: I would say, because it would be easier for me
21:14
Speaker 5: personally to have the ending that you guys did have
21:18
Speaker 5: if I was, you know, the quote winner. Yeah, but
21:21
Speaker 5: I would also say that in your situation, it seemed
21:24
Speaker 5: like you and Kelsey were like tied, if not you
21:28
Speaker 5: being like the more front runner, and you know, of
21:31
Speaker 5: course that obviously can get to you to be like
21:34
Speaker 5: why does everybody thinks it's stazy the entire time?
21:38
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I think she knew and I knew at
21:42
Speaker 4: the ending, especially that like last conversation that me and
21:45
Speaker 4: her had like definitely wasn't me and definitely was yeah,
21:51
Speaker 4: And so I think like she knew that and had that,
21:55
Speaker 4: but yeah, it was it was like weird for me too,
21:58
Speaker 4: especially when the like main spoiler came out and it
22:01
Speaker 4: says that I wasn't them. I think that was kind
22:05
Speaker 4: of I know, it was difficult for me to navigate
22:08
Speaker 4: because it was pretty I'm pretty sure it was pretty
22:11
Speaker 4: soon after, like a couple of weeks after it was done,
22:14
Speaker 4: that came out and I was still processing everything, So
22:17
Speaker 4: it was shocking to me. But I also know, like
22:23
Speaker 4: when it's plain back, like we remember what happened between
22:28
Speaker 4: us and how the ending all happened, and so I
22:30
Speaker 4: just always kind of like brought it back to that
22:32
Speaker 4: versus what people were saying online, which I think sometimes
22:36
Speaker 4: it's hard to do, but that's what I tried to do.
22:39
Speaker 3: We also, I mean, I think there's it's important here,
22:42
Speaker 3: and Daisy, I'd love to hear your kind of response
22:45
Speaker 3: to this. But if Kelsey was to go through a
22:50
Speaker 3: season a few weeks of intense confusion and jealousy, I
22:53
Speaker 3: personally feel like that would be very fair because here's
22:57
Speaker 3: what we're sitting at now. She's add to the end
23:01
Speaker 3: of the show five months of being with her fiance,
23:05
Speaker 3: falling deeper hopefully in love with her fiance, viewing her
23:08
Speaker 3: fiance as somebody who is a part of her a
23:12
Speaker 3: partner to her. You know, the show is still a
23:16
Speaker 3: piece of their story, but they've moved on from that personally.
23:19
Speaker 3: And then the show starts airing, and all of a sudden,
23:23
Speaker 3: your fiance is to the public, sharing you with somebody else,
23:27
Speaker 3: and no matter what, you're gonna get protective. My sweet wife,
23:32
Speaker 3: who has not a mean bone in her body, if
23:36
Speaker 3: there is ever anything said about me personally, she would
23:40
Speaker 3: lose it, Like there would be a whole different side
23:42
Speaker 3: of her to come out right. And so I understand
23:44
Speaker 3: how there is a period there will probably for Kelsey
23:48
Speaker 3: or for the winner quote unquote, would have all sorts
23:54
Speaker 3: of emotions and probably for a bit be resentful towards you,
23:57
Speaker 3: even if she still likes you and cares about you.
24:01
Speaker 2: What would you say to that, Like it.
24:03
Speaker 3: Walk me through what you think it would feel like
24:06
Speaker 3: to be the winner in this situation.
24:09
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I think it would definitely be hard
24:13
Speaker 4: at times, for sure, And I think it helped that
24:18
Speaker 4: we both did have such respect for each other, even
24:21
Speaker 4: though at moments it was probably really hard for both
24:23
Speaker 4: of us. But like at the end of the day, like, yes,
24:27
Speaker 4: it was me and her at the end, but it
24:29
Speaker 4: also like, none of us, neither of us did anything
24:34
Speaker 4: hurtful to each other. It wasn't it was just it
24:36
Speaker 4: was the show, and it was how it came out
24:39
Speaker 4: and how it was ending. But yeah, I could definitely see,
24:42
Speaker 4: like being the final person in that scenario how it
24:45
Speaker 4: would definitely be weird. And I feel like for everyone
24:49
Speaker 4: who's been in that position, it probably is. It's probably
24:54
Speaker 4: something that no one else will ever understand because, like
24:56
Speaker 4: you said, you do the show, then you're with them
24:58
Speaker 4: for a few months, and then you have to like
25:01
Speaker 4: go back and live it, but also live it through
25:05
Speaker 4: everyone else watching it. And I think it's more difficult.
25:08
Speaker 4: That part's way more difficult, even for me than I
25:11
Speaker 4: thought it was going to be, like when I was
25:14
Speaker 4: in it. When I was in it, I had such
25:15
Speaker 4: a great time. The only time I struggled is when
25:17
Speaker 4: parts of the season, like when it was airing.
25:20
Speaker 5: Yeah, what was this is random? We're going on a
25:25
Speaker 5: different topic right now. What was your take on the
25:27
Speaker 5: whole Maria Mania.
25:30
Speaker 4: I just think it was a lot of like big personalities,
25:34
Speaker 4: and I think and when you're in a group of
25:37
Speaker 4: girls with a lot of big personalities, sometimes it doesn't
25:43
Speaker 4: go well. But I'm friends with a lot of the
25:46
Speaker 4: girls on the show, and everyone's like friends and made
25:49
Speaker 4: up for the most part. But yeah, it was crazy.
25:55
Speaker 4: I remember sitting and watching some of it. I was like,
25:56
Speaker 4: what is going It's.
25:58
Speaker 3: Always the best part, and tested it's always the best
26:01
Speaker 3: part that you have a front, real seat at the
26:03
Speaker 3: craziness that's now going to air on national television and
26:06
Speaker 3: you have like the ticket that nobody can buy and
26:10
Speaker 3: you can just watch it go down. It's oftentimes really
26:13
Speaker 3: weird to see people like arguing in front of you
26:15
Speaker 3: and not to like step in and try to like
26:17
Speaker 3: be the peacemaker. Yeah, but you're just like, I just
26:20
Speaker 3: got to let this go and let this play out,
26:22
Speaker 3: and I just got to sit here and watch it's wild.
26:25
Speaker 6: Yeah.
26:25
Speaker 5: But what was your take on everyone's obsession with her
26:29
Speaker 5: and her also being somebody that Bachelor Nation was rooting
26:33
Speaker 5: on to be the Bachelorette.
26:35
Speaker 1: Yeah.
26:35
Speaker 4: I think it was really interesting because me and Marie
26:38
Speaker 4: are very very different, even like our personality is like
26:42
Speaker 4: everything about us, I would say, we're very different, and
26:45
Speaker 4: I think it was super interesting to see how people
26:48
Speaker 4: were really supporting me and like also really supporting her.
26:51
Speaker 4: But I also think that might have been part of
26:55
Speaker 4: the reason why, because we were so different from each other.
27:00
Speaker 4: So yeah, did I answer that, I don't even know.
27:03
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, totally.
27:06
Speaker 2: I've never seen a contestant come off the show and
27:08
Speaker 2: have so much support.
27:12
Speaker 3: I would say, but that doesn't feel like the right word,
27:14
Speaker 3: like backing, like pandemonium, pandemonium, but also just in her corner,
27:19
Speaker 3: like she you know, like really like I'm I'm fighting
27:23
Speaker 3: for her and with her. Yeah, you know, because at
27:26
Speaker 3: the end of the day, no matter what, like she
27:29
Speaker 3: was polarizing and at times controversial. Yeah, but yet that
27:36
Speaker 3: polarization and that controversy led to people just being like, no,
27:39
Speaker 3: I love her. And it would be there's a couple
27:42
Speaker 3: of classes out there at universities that study each season
27:46
Speaker 3: of the show as like a social experiment, and I
27:49
Speaker 3: can't I would love to hear kind of what they're
27:51
Speaker 3: finding out about the support for both you and Maria,
27:56
Speaker 3: because you are different, but yet you both got so
27:58
Speaker 3: much support.
27:59
Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely. I think it would be interesting to like
28:03
Speaker 4: see how are like followers overlap?
28:08
Speaker 6: Yeah, like how many do overlap? Yeah, where's the Venn diagram?
28:12
Speaker 4: Or if they're like they're pretty different or if.
28:14
Speaker 6: Like totally, that's so funny.
28:18
Speaker 5: Okay, so let's talk about your health journey. How how
28:21
Speaker 5: willing are you to like go back in time and
28:23
Speaker 5: to start telling us about when you felt like something
28:26
Speaker 5: was off.
28:28
Speaker 4: Yeah, I can go way back in time.
28:29
Speaker 6: Okay, let's do it. When was the moment?
28:32
Speaker 4: So I think like when I was little, we kind
28:34
Speaker 4: of always knew because I would have seizures and shot
28:38
Speaker 4: out and we couldn't really figure out why. And then
28:41
Speaker 4: I would say, when I was like fifteen seventeen, that's
28:44
Speaker 4: when I first started realizing that my hearing was going away.
28:47
Speaker 4: So when and started seeing a bunch of doctors did
28:50
Speaker 4: all these tests, no one could really figure out what
28:52
Speaker 4: was wrong with me. And I was still like having
28:54
Speaker 4: They called them like stroke like cazes because half my
28:56
Speaker 4: body would go numb. But yeah, that kept happening. And
29:01
Speaker 4: then I had first been only losing hearing my left year,
29:05
Speaker 4: but then it started impacting my right year, and they
29:08
Speaker 4: didn't think that was ever going to happen. So then
29:11
Speaker 4: and then I remember I went abroad. It was my
29:14
Speaker 4: junior year of college and I went abroad, and that
29:18
Speaker 4: was right after I found out that I was losing
29:20
Speaker 4: my hearing and I was probably going to lose all
29:22
Speaker 4: of it, So that was pretty tough. And then that
29:26
Speaker 4: summer when I got back from abroad, I remember talking
29:30
Speaker 4: to my mom and I just said, something doesn't feel
29:34
Speaker 4: right in like my brain. I'm like, I just don't
29:38
Speaker 4: feel right. I don't feel like me, Like something just
29:41
Speaker 4: feels wrong. And so then like we started doing a
29:44
Speaker 4: bunch of different things, and then they figured out that
29:47
Speaker 4: I had lime disease. And then it got to the
29:49
Speaker 4: point where I'd be having conversations with people and I'd
29:52
Speaker 4: just forget what I was saying, like it would just
29:56
Speaker 4: completely stop.
30:07
Speaker 5: So when did they think that you ended up getting
30:10
Speaker 5: lime disease now, in hindsight, because you had it when
30:12
Speaker 5: you were so little. You had symptoms of something when
30:15
Speaker 5: you were so little.
30:16
Speaker 4: Yeah, So I grew up in Minnesota, like out in
30:18
Speaker 4: the wood, so we were off the side, and I
30:20
Speaker 4: remember we would like we would come in and our
30:23
Speaker 4: parents would check us for ticks and take them off.
30:25
Speaker 4: But I remember when I think when I was six,
30:27
Speaker 4: I had one in the back of my neck that
30:29
Speaker 4: was a deer tick. So he went to the doctor
30:31
Speaker 4: and they caught out a chunk of my skin actually
30:34
Speaker 4: and took it out. But we think that's when I
30:36
Speaker 4: got it because there's certain trackers in your blood and
30:39
Speaker 4: if when I did a bunch of the in depth
30:42
Speaker 4: test seen multiple times, the trackers that showed only show
30:46
Speaker 4: if you had it for over ten years. So they
30:48
Speaker 4: think that's when I probably got it, and then it
30:51
Speaker 4: just slowly started affecting me like wore some wars.
30:55
Speaker 3: I want to dive in a little bit here because
30:58
Speaker 3: for anybody listening, lime disease right now is the third
31:01
Speaker 3: most diagnosed disease in the US. Yet it doesn't have
31:05
Speaker 3: a lot of medical backing, so there's not a lot
31:07
Speaker 3: of money going into it. There's not a lot of research. Daisy,
31:11
Speaker 3: we've talked about in the podcast before. We don't have
31:13
Speaker 3: to go into length about this. But my best friend
31:16
Speaker 3: was diagnosed with lime disease now four years ago, five
31:20
Speaker 3: years ago, and it developed into ALS, and so it
31:23
Speaker 3: started shutting down his nervous system and so now he
31:27
Speaker 3: suffers from ALS. He's still alive, but it's ALS.
31:31
Speaker 2: Sucks.
31:32
Speaker 3: So lime disease is a big part of my life,
31:36
Speaker 3: but it's also a big part of Bachelor Nation's life.
31:38
Speaker 2: Obviously.
31:39
Speaker 3: Trista Setter just came out today talking about her husband
31:41
Speaker 3: Ryan's struggle with lime disease. Kelly flanagain, Kelly Flanagan, I
31:47
Speaker 3: want to talk a little bit about this disease specifically,
31:51
Speaker 3: so you're seizures, because I was unaware even kind of
31:55
Speaker 3: watching the show. I was trying to put all this together.
31:59
Speaker 3: Your seizures are believe to be also from lime disease.
32:02
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's like the only thing they can link them to.
32:04
Speaker 4: I was misdiagnosed with epilepsy, but then I saw a
32:07
Speaker 4: bunch of specialists and they were like, no, you definitely
32:09
Speaker 4: do not have epilepsy.
32:11
Speaker 3: And so one of the things, obviously your case of
32:14
Speaker 3: lime disease is pretty severe. I'm sure you have a
32:17
Speaker 3: thousand different other like diseases below that that come up
32:20
Speaker 3: on blood work.
32:21
Speaker 2: But you're healthy now, I believe so right, Yeah.
32:27
Speaker 4: I'm very This is probably like the healthiest I've ever been,
32:30
Speaker 4: honestly since I was little.
32:32
Speaker 3: But the cochlear implants are not a part of like
32:35
Speaker 3: curing lime disease. So what do they do to help
32:37
Speaker 3: rid you of this terrible disease?
32:40
Speaker 4: Yeah, So I went to Germany. I did a bunch
32:44
Speaker 4: of treatments in the States. Nothing was working, and it's
32:47
Speaker 4: to the point where I like literally couldn't get out
32:49
Speaker 4: of bed and I was just I was so sick
32:54
Speaker 4: all the time. I remember there was this time period
32:57
Speaker 4: where like I couldn't even walk to the bathroom because
33:00
Speaker 4: my balance was so off. But I went intod this
33:04
Speaker 4: treatment in Germany and it completely changed my life. But
33:09
Speaker 4: my hearing. So they think, we don't know for sure,
33:13
Speaker 4: but we're pretty sure the lime caused me to have
33:16
Speaker 4: Minear's disease, which destructs your hearing. And so now I
33:21
Speaker 4: just have I have Minear's disease and that's why my
33:23
Speaker 4: hearing got so bad.
33:26
Speaker 6: So does that develop from lime disease?
33:28
Speaker 4: It can. Minyear's disease can happen from like a bunch
33:30
Speaker 4: of different things, but from like infections, it can happen.
33:34
Speaker 4: It can happen from like if you have like impact
33:37
Speaker 4: to your head. Some people, it just happen. They don't
33:40
Speaker 4: know exactly why it happens all the time, and there's
33:43
Speaker 4: like no cere to it. They're doing a bunch of
33:44
Speaker 4: research right now, so hopefully something that that will come through.
33:50
Speaker 4: But yeah, they think that's why I haven't And I'm
33:55
Speaker 4: also not to be the age I am and not
33:58
Speaker 4: respond to any minear's treatments like usually steroids or diuretics
34:03
Speaker 4: different like that will help if you're on a really
34:06
Speaker 4: strict diet, but none of it has helped me. Surgeon,
34:09
Speaker 4: actually they call me the unicorn.
34:13
Speaker 6: Well what kind of magic did they do in Germany?
34:15
Speaker 5: What did they have over.
34:16
Speaker 6: There that we do not have? Do they recognize it
34:19
Speaker 6: as a disease?
34:20
Speaker 5: They recognize it as a disease, right, because I know
34:22
Speaker 5: that in America. It's a little bit like yeah, there's
34:26
Speaker 5: not like isn't isn't it just like not a ben
34:30
Speaker 5: I think you've said it before. It's not like a
34:32
Speaker 5: registered like official diet. Can't be like an official diagnosis.
34:37
Speaker 3: Now it's like under the same category as like fibermyalgia.
34:43
Speaker 3: So it's like not a registered like recognized disease.
34:47
Speaker 4: Yeah.
34:48
Speaker 2: So as a result, like yeah, they'll.
34:50
Speaker 5: Have that stuff.
34:52
Speaker 6: Yeah, okay, So do you recommend people going to Germany?
34:56
Speaker 1: Yeah?
34:56
Speaker 4: I always say if I already get sick again, I
34:58
Speaker 4: would go there right away. It was definitely it was
35:02
Speaker 4: like different because you are in a different country, but
35:05
Speaker 4: they're just so much more knowledgeable about it, and so
35:07
Speaker 4: the main thing they did was whole body hypothermia. So
35:10
Speaker 4: they put you to sleep. It's like they yeah, I
35:16
Speaker 4: was there for a month, but they did this twice.
35:18
Speaker 4: They put me to sleep for I would say, like
35:20
Speaker 4: five to six hours and then they raise your whole
35:23
Speaker 4: body temperature up. I got up to like one hundred
35:25
Speaker 4: and seven point six degrees and then they inject you
35:28
Speaker 4: with antibiotics because lime can't withstand a certain heat and
35:33
Speaker 4: a lot of people doctors will just give you antibiotics,
35:36
Speaker 4: which I was on antibiotics for a really long time.
35:39
Speaker 4: For some people it'll work because well if you get it,
35:42
Speaker 4: if you take them within like the first two weeks,
35:44
Speaker 4: I think it is that you have lime in a work.
35:47
Speaker 4: But otherwise for most people, the antibiotics would just like
35:50
Speaker 4: suppress it. But it's not good to be on antibiotics
35:52
Speaker 4: for your life. But like lime, how to explain, it
35:58
Speaker 4: has like a hard shell around it, and if you've
36:00
Speaker 4: had it for a certain time, like antibiotics can't crack
36:03
Speaker 4: through that shell. So but extreme heat can break the shell.
36:07
Speaker 4: So when like you're in when I was getting heated up,
36:10
Speaker 4: the shell like broke open, and then the antibiotics are
36:13
Speaker 4: able to go in and treat it's so interesting.
36:17
Speaker 6: Were you super scared going in for that?
36:20
Speaker 4: I was really scared, but the doctors are very reassuring,
36:23
Speaker 4: but it is scary because you're in a different country
36:25
Speaker 4: and like, but at that point I was so sick.
36:28
Speaker 4: I remember leaving. My older brother was like, are you
36:31
Speaker 4: sure you want to do this? And I was just like,
36:32
Speaker 4: it can't can't get any worse right now, and so
36:37
Speaker 4: I was kind of my last like hope.
36:39
Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, you're speaking to many there's many listeners who
36:43
Speaker 3: who've probably been diagnosed with line. Your advocacy for this
36:47
Speaker 3: is going to be greatly important as we move forward,
36:49
Speaker 3: because I do believe it is something we need to
36:51
Speaker 3: start paying attention to. I kind of want to take
36:55
Speaker 3: this line disease conversation though, and as we close out here,
36:58
Speaker 3: kind of run it back to the show, because you
37:00
Speaker 3: obviously had just gotten your cochlear implants right before the
37:03
Speaker 3: filming of the show, and you've said a couple of
37:06
Speaker 3: things that I've jotted down here that are interesting me.
37:08
Speaker 3: You said, if this would have happened a year previous,
37:11
Speaker 3: you probably wouldn't be sitting where you are today, and
37:13
Speaker 3: it would have gone a lot differently what I'm curious
37:19
Speaker 3: and I'm going to say, and it's going to maybe
37:21
Speaker 3: sound a little bit harsh, but I don't mean it.
37:24
Speaker 2: I'm like, really curious.
37:25
Speaker 3: I'm surprised that you could get cochlear implants, something that
37:29
Speaker 3: is very vulnerable, something that you were you admitted to
37:31
Speaker 3: being nervous about when it comes to you know how
37:34
Speaker 3: people would view you. Yet you also had a confidence
37:39
Speaker 3: that you've already mentioned during this interview to go on
37:42
Speaker 3: the show with these and a better place than you
37:45
Speaker 3: were a year previous. And so can you make all
37:47
Speaker 3: that make sense to me? Because really, what I'm trying
37:49
Speaker 3: to understand is at the place that you're at the
37:52
Speaker 3: most vulnerable in your life with something happening in your
37:56
Speaker 3: life that you're also very insecure about, you're also so
38:00
Speaker 3: telling us that you were also ready to go on
38:03
Speaker 3: and day on national television.
38:04
Speaker 2: I don't understand, So explain it to me, please.
38:07
Speaker 4: So I think, yeah, it can be confusing. When I
38:12
Speaker 4: got my co clear implant and started learning with it,
38:16
Speaker 4: it was like it was kind of like the world
38:18
Speaker 4: reopened up to me because I was so sad for
38:21
Speaker 4: such a long time and I was learning all of
38:24
Speaker 4: these new things. But it was also before I went
38:26
Speaker 4: on the show, I was at a place in my
38:27
Speaker 4: life that I hadn't been at in a really long
38:30
Speaker 4: time where I was happy, and so I knew going
38:33
Speaker 4: on the show like, no matter how it went, nothing like,
38:37
Speaker 4: I wasn't going to let anything affect that. And I
38:41
Speaker 4: think that's why I was like garden Ways too. But
38:43
Speaker 4: also it was just it was a really like life
38:46
Speaker 4: changing time for me. And I also believed, like me
38:48
Speaker 4: going on the show was happening for a reason, just
38:51
Speaker 4: how everything had happened the last six months of my
38:54
Speaker 4: life before going on the show. And I did go
38:58
Speaker 4: back and forth about doing it, but the producers were awesome,
39:02
Speaker 4: and even I think it was really special how they
39:05
Speaker 4: showed because like lime disease isn't always recognized, and in
39:08
Speaker 4: my like intro video, they had that in there, and
39:11
Speaker 4: I think it was like it was a really big
39:13
Speaker 4: moment for people, especially who have like autoimmune diseases too,
39:18
Speaker 4: to see that and be like it's being recognized, and
39:20
Speaker 4: it's not only being recognized, but it's on The Bachelor
39:22
Speaker 4: on ABC, And I think that was a really huge thing.
39:25
Speaker 4: But I remember being so nervous before it aired too,
39:30
Speaker 4: because I was like, I'm like, I know where I'm at,
39:33
Speaker 4: and I'm confident at where I'm at, but I don't
39:36
Speaker 4: know how other people are going to take this. So
39:40
Speaker 4: I don't know how does that make sense? But I
39:42
Speaker 4: get what you're saying and how that can be confusing, Like, oh,
39:44
Speaker 4: I felt so confident, but I also I think your
39:47
Speaker 4: health and everything too is also a vulnerable thing. So
39:49
Speaker 4: it's okay to be confident about it, but also be
39:54
Speaker 4: like is this how it's going to go? Or is
39:57
Speaker 4: it not how it's going to go. So it definitely
40:02
Speaker 4: was a lot of emotions.
40:04
Speaker 3: It feels like it, and I think that's where I
40:06
Speaker 3: was coming from, is like it just feels like a
40:09
Speaker 3: mixed bag of emotions you entering them into this whole, wild,
40:14
Speaker 3: new experience and doing it with grace and confidence, risking
40:21
Speaker 3: you know, the opposite of what happened to you actually happening,
40:24
Speaker 3: which you know, I don't know if that was actually
40:25
Speaker 3: a very viable concern. I think, you know, if you
40:29
Speaker 3: would have if we would have met before filming, I
40:31
Speaker 3: had been like, You're going to do great, Like this
40:32
Speaker 3: is going to be great, You're going to have a blast,
40:34
Speaker 3: But I still know that's a concern and it's still
40:38
Speaker 3: a possibility, and so it does make sense. It's just
40:41
Speaker 3: always been intriguing to me that you could step out
40:44
Speaker 3: and do this like you did it in the midst
40:46
Speaker 3: of what you also were talking about being some of
40:48
Speaker 3: the most difficult years of your life.
40:50
Speaker 4: Yeah, thank you.
40:52
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's impressive you've said.
40:55
Speaker 5: That Night one kind of freaked you out because the
40:58
Speaker 5: noise was so intense and me feel very overwhelmed.
41:02
Speaker 6: And then you went on.
41:04
Speaker 5: Your you know, your country concert date was.
41:08
Speaker 6: Early on scary for you. Did you feel like I'm
41:11
Speaker 6: not going to.
41:12
Speaker 5: Make it this far because I just like socially don't
41:14
Speaker 5: feel like I'm up for it? Or was there was
41:18
Speaker 5: what was the hardest part besides night one? And then
41:21
Speaker 5: when did you start to feel a little bit more
41:23
Speaker 5: at ease?
41:25
Speaker 4: I think yeah, Night one was definitely the hardest part.
41:28
Speaker 4: After I told him about everything, then it was easier
41:31
Speaker 4: because I was like, he understands and if I am
41:34
Speaker 4: struggling in a situation. And all the girls knew about
41:37
Speaker 4: it too, and they were so uplifting about it. But
41:40
Speaker 4: a part that always made me nervous is you don't
41:42
Speaker 4: know what dates you're going in to do and so
41:47
Speaker 4: a lot of people don't realize this, I feel like,
41:51
Speaker 4: but especially for me with my hearing loss, like there's
41:54
Speaker 4: certain areas that I hear better, and so my anxiety
41:57
Speaker 4: going into the dates was probably different than a lot
42:00
Speaker 4: of the other girls because my anxiety was like, are
42:03
Speaker 4: we going to be somewhere I'm going to be able
42:04
Speaker 4: to hear and be in the conversation with people, and
42:07
Speaker 4: so that was always something I was nervous about that
42:10
Speaker 4: I was always put on dates and most people were
42:13
Speaker 4: like a music festival, You're bringing the girl with hearing
42:15
Speaker 4: loves to the music festival. But I do really well
42:21
Speaker 4: in those situations, especially if it's just one on one,
42:23
Speaker 4: because I'm just focusing on one person basically, and so
42:26
Speaker 4: it's easier for me to do that. But yeah, I
42:29
Speaker 4: think going into different dates and not knowing what they
42:34
Speaker 4: were going to be, I was always a little anxious
42:36
Speaker 4: about am I going to be able to hear?
42:40
Speaker 3: I will say I want to give credit to the
42:42
Speaker 3: show here, and I don't know if you have this experience, Daisy,
42:44
Speaker 3: and we are going to close up with you here
42:45
Speaker 3: soon just a few more questions and kind of it's
42:48
Speaker 3: a long interview because we're curious about you, But I
42:50
Speaker 3: will want to give credit to the show. I had
42:52
Speaker 3: gone on to my season of The Bachelorette with like
42:56
Speaker 3: recently off of a surgery for an ACL tear, and
42:59
Speaker 3: they were very accommodating, Like every date that we were
43:02
Speaker 3: going on, even if I didn't exactly know what it was,
43:05
Speaker 3: they would kind of give me hints like, hey, bang,
43:07
Speaker 3: do you feel like you can cut like back and forth?
43:09
Speaker 3: Do you feel like you can sprint? Do you feel
43:11
Speaker 3: comfortable like in a like a tug of war type situation?
43:14
Speaker 3: And they were always extremely accommodating to me and what
43:17
Speaker 3: I needed. Did you feel the same way about kind
43:19
Speaker 3: of your experience.
43:21
Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely I did. And I think there were specific
43:26
Speaker 4: dates that like I probably wasn't on where they did
43:30
Speaker 4: well that would be like easier for me and more
43:32
Speaker 4: like fitting, which I really appreciate. Yeah, and then also
43:35
Speaker 4: I think sometimes I would get and it's like can
43:38
Speaker 4: you put headphones on? Or I remember them being like
43:42
Speaker 4: can you go in the water for a little bit
43:44
Speaker 4: and take it off? And I was like, oh, I'm
43:46
Speaker 4: doing something in water. But yeah, they always made sure
43:50
Speaker 4: that I would feel comfortable, but I think it like
43:52
Speaker 4: there's always going to be like even in my day
43:55
Speaker 4: to day life, there's always that little bit of anxiety
43:57
Speaker 4: even I'm like going out to dinner or something.
44:09
Speaker 3: You know, Daisy, it happens from this show. Oftentimes you're
44:16
Speaker 3: not the bachelorette. So life is your oyster. It is
44:19
Speaker 3: wide open in front of you right now. There is
44:22
Speaker 3: so many things that can happen. There's going to be
44:24
Speaker 3: so many things that do happen, some associated with the show,
44:27
Speaker 3: some not. But what the show always does is it
44:30
Speaker 3: has this little magic to it, and it preps you
44:33
Speaker 3: for love in the future, be that on Paradise or
44:38
Speaker 3: be that in your normal life. Have you started dating,
44:43
Speaker 3: Are you curious about dating? Do you feel more prepared
44:48
Speaker 3: to fall in love than ever?
44:51
Speaker 4: Yes, I do. I think I'm at like such a
44:54
Speaker 4: good spot in my life. But I also think I
44:59
Speaker 4: did learn about my self a lot for the show,
45:01
Speaker 4: So no matter what, right now, I'm gonna put myself first.
45:04
Speaker 4: But yeah, I have gone on dates and.
45:07
Speaker 5: Okay, she's like giddy, she's like kind of giggly. You're
45:11
Speaker 5: definitely thinking of one person in your head.
45:14
Speaker 4: But yeah, I'm I don't know I'm interested to see
45:18
Speaker 4: where life goes for me.
45:20
Speaker 5: Okay, well, you seem like you're in a really good place.
45:23
Speaker 5: Could we say that you've been on multiple dates with
45:25
Speaker 5: the same person. Yeah, would you say that you could
45:29
Speaker 5: be close to like being in a relationship.
45:34
Speaker 4: I don't know. You never know how time's gonna go.
45:37
Speaker 4: But I would say I'm happy right now and it's
45:39
Speaker 4: looking positive.
45:41
Speaker 2: But that's such a bachelor answer. I'm happy right now.
45:43
Speaker 3: That's like what Jillie would have said on any talk
45:46
Speaker 3: show four months ago. The interesting thing I picked up
45:50
Speaker 3: on Ashley also is that Daisy's response to going on
45:53
Speaker 3: Paradise was yeah, it sounds fun, but I'm not ready
45:57
Speaker 3: right now, or I could it right now or something
45:59
Speaker 3: like that.
45:59
Speaker 5: So, so there's somebody in her head that she wouldn't
46:04
Speaker 5: go on for, and I'm wondering if that person was
46:08
Speaker 5: somebody that was in her head when she was making
46:10
Speaker 5: the bachelorette decision as well.
46:12
Speaker 4: No, so that I can actually say one hundred percent
46:15
Speaker 4: that I made like on my own before I ever
46:21
Speaker 4: wanted to think about anything with anyone else, because I
46:24
Speaker 4: knew I was at this point in my life where
46:25
Speaker 4: like I kind of had to be selfish and make
46:27
Speaker 4: a decision for me and what was going to be
46:29
Speaker 4: best for me. So I can say like that decision
46:33
Speaker 4: was I definitely had nothing to do with my dating
46:37
Speaker 4: life right now.
46:38
Speaker 6: In my situation, I.
46:41
Speaker 5: Had, you know, with Jared a moment where like I
46:44
Speaker 5: went on the show without him and then I came
46:48
Speaker 5: off of it and he realized that he was, you know,
46:51
Speaker 5: just you know, missing out on the greatest thing that
46:54
Speaker 5: he could have ever had. Yes, did you have anybody
46:59
Speaker 5: come out of the would work that possibly like you
47:01
Speaker 5: dated in the past, that you would kindle things with.
47:06
Speaker 4: Well, I have quite a few people. Whatever happens, I
47:11
Speaker 4: think time will tell, but yeah, I could see.
47:15
Speaker 3: How do you know, to kind of close up this
47:17
Speaker 3: dating conversation now where life takes you, how are you processing.
47:23
Speaker 2: That they're they're in.
47:24
Speaker 3: It for the right reasons, right, like people do come
47:27
Speaker 3: out of the woodwork, and you showed well on this
47:31
Speaker 3: show and you had a great experience, and you know,
47:34
Speaker 3: people love you, and so how do you how are
47:37
Speaker 3: you like mentally processing that this person is actually in
47:41
Speaker 3: it for me and not the image of me or
47:44
Speaker 3: the idea of me.
47:46
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think, I mean, obviously I feel like everyone
47:51
Speaker 4: on like the outside looking in, people might always think
47:54
Speaker 4: that and say things, but I think I got that
48:00
Speaker 4: when you like get to know somebody in a way
48:02
Speaker 4: other people don't know them in that way. But yeah, no,
48:07
Speaker 4: I get what you're saying, like, and I think dating
48:09
Speaker 4: coming off of a show like this, especially when you
48:12
Speaker 4: get the feedback I have gotten, like I'd be lying
48:16
Speaker 4: in the back of my head if I wasn't like, oh,
48:18
Speaker 4: this might be a little tricky. But so I think
48:22
Speaker 4: that's like a fair question for sure, and something that
48:25
Speaker 4: people will always think about. But I think for me,
48:28
Speaker 4: navigating just like knowing who I am and knowing who
48:32
Speaker 4: they are, Like if I feel like, if you really
48:37
Speaker 4: look confident about something and confident in yourself, then you
48:42
Speaker 4: won't go down that slope.
48:44
Speaker 3: But it doesn't happen every time. There's good there's great
48:48
Speaker 3: examples where it's backfired on somebody, Yeah, and they've dated
48:53
Speaker 3: and it's gone poorly because somebody was just in it
48:55
Speaker 3: for the wrong reasons. And then there's amazing examples of
48:59
Speaker 3: people doing it and it working out to everybody's benefit.
49:03
Speaker 3: It's just always the question that all your friends will ask.
49:07
Speaker 3: You'll probably get asked to every single event you do
49:11
Speaker 3: is how is dating Ben?
49:13
Speaker 2: Post show?
49:15
Speaker 4: I feel like it's a learning curve and people are
49:18
Speaker 4: like so looking into your life. Especially I feel like
49:22
Speaker 4: coming off the show, everyone like has inpu and something
49:25
Speaker 4: to say. I know there's there's been like so many tiktoks.
49:28
Speaker 4: My friends have said to me, it's just like a
49:30
Speaker 4: random guy and he's like, finally with my girlfriend and
49:33
Speaker 4: then the next picture is a picture of me.
49:35
Speaker 2: I think that's a compliment. Take it as a compliment.
49:39
Speaker 2: It is one. Enjoy it.
49:41
Speaker 6: I want to wrap this on a very silly note.
49:43
Speaker 5: We didn't talk about your music video yet, and we
49:45
Speaker 5: don't have to die into it, but I do want
49:47
Speaker 5: to say.
49:48
Speaker 2: That was ridiculous, Daisy. What was the statement? I want
49:52
Speaker 2: to well, no, no, he's too Yeah.
49:54
Speaker 3: I want to know what it actually means, because Jess
49:57
Speaker 3: and I talked it through and she had her ideas
49:59
Speaker 3: and I had mine. They were very different, and I
50:01
Speaker 3: was like, I actually don't know what it means. And
50:02
Speaker 3: I would have been so upset if we did this
50:03
Speaker 3: whole interview and never got clarity.
50:06
Speaker 6: So you have to say the lyric out loud. Oh,
50:07
Speaker 6: I have to say the lyric out loud.
50:09
Speaker 4: Yeah, you can say that.
50:12
Speaker 6: Beat this out, lick this off.
50:15
Speaker 5: My note When you said when you saw that lyric
50:19
Speaker 5: that was written and sung by your best friend since childhood,
50:23
Speaker 5: who is you know, the musician that you did the
50:27
Speaker 5: music video with.
50:29
Speaker 6: You were like you were like.
50:31
Speaker 2: What I remember?
50:33
Speaker 4: I was kind of I was just like this is interesting,
50:36
Speaker 4: and I remember thinking, you know me interesting and then
50:38
Speaker 4: I remember telling you or my mom like listening to it,
50:41
Speaker 4: and I remember it was my mom and my aunt
50:43
Speaker 4: and my mom was like, I don't really know about
50:45
Speaker 4: this one.
50:46
Speaker 2: Day, Yeah, this one is there more.
50:51
Speaker 4: I've always like made like music with them and stuff,
50:53
Speaker 4: but there's not another one like that.
50:54
Speaker 2: No, Okay, can we get on what it means?
50:58
Speaker 4: Yeah, I honestly don't know eactly what it means. But
51:00
Speaker 4: I can text him and ask him and then I
51:02
Speaker 4: can report back.
51:04
Speaker 2: Yeah, please report back. We'll break it down in the
51:05
Speaker 2: next headlines. Day.
51:07
Speaker 3: Can't verify that this means this, because I really don't.
51:12
Speaker 3: I mean, I have some ideas and my mind goes
51:15
Speaker 3: to like all I can do is have my.
51:17
Speaker 4: Mind go to your idea is what you think they are?
51:19
Speaker 4: And then I'll ask you. I'll ask him and then I.
51:21
Speaker 6: Can tell you, yeah, it's like sex juice.
51:24
Speaker 3: Okay, my question is, why are you looking at like mean,
51:31
Speaker 3: I don't see the benefit.
51:32
Speaker 2: I guess I don't see the health benefit. I don't
51:34
Speaker 2: see the.
51:36
Speaker 4: Deeply into the But now that I'm thinking into the yeah, yeah.
51:40
Speaker 2: I'm going to text you Daisy my thoughts.
51:42
Speaker 3: I would love for you to verify when that piece
51:47
Speaker 3: of musical artistry was created what it actually meant, and
51:52
Speaker 3: then we can actually I can sleep at night finally
51:55
Speaker 3: after weeks of this. Okay, thank you, I appreciate this
52:00
Speaker 3: final thing. Jin is the next bachelorette. Yeah, what can
52:04
Speaker 3: we expect?
52:05
Speaker 4: Do you think I'm really excited for? Like you said,
52:07
Speaker 4: I feel like a lot of people don't know a
52:09
Speaker 4: lot about her, and I think it'll be interesting to
52:13
Speaker 4: see that. I also think since people don't know a
52:15
Speaker 4: lot about her, it'll be interesting to see how she
52:17
Speaker 4: navigates all of the relationships with so many different guys
52:23
Speaker 4: and they're all probably gonna be so different from each
52:25
Speaker 4: other because that's how it was on our season too.
52:29
Speaker 4: But I'm excited to see how it all works out
52:32
Speaker 4: for her, and I hope she gets her happily. Ever, after.
52:34
Speaker 2: I hope so too.
52:35
Speaker 4: I feel like there's gonna be something like, very very
52:37
Speaker 4: dramatic that I don't know why I'm thinking of, but
52:40
Speaker 4: I just think there is.
52:43
Speaker 3: I'm gonna just rapid fire a few characteristic questions then
52:45
Speaker 3: to get to know better, and you can just answer
52:48
Speaker 3: yes or no.
52:48
Speaker 2: Is she funny yes, that.
52:52
Speaker 4: Like giggly like personality?
52:55
Speaker 3: Is she collected like meaning? Will she be dramatic herself?
53:00
Speaker 4: I think she's collected and composed, But I think if
53:03
Speaker 4: she gets like pushed enough, I could see her like
53:06
Speaker 4: not snapping, but I could see her getting sassity. Yeah,
53:10
Speaker 4: I could see it getting dramatic.
53:12
Speaker 2: And is she ready for love?
53:14
Speaker 4: I would say, yeah, she's definitely ready for love.
53:17
Speaker 2: Awesome, Daisy, thanks for coming on, Thanks for chatting with us.
53:21
Speaker 2: Thank you, guys, appreciate it.
53:23
Speaker 6: You're so sweet.
53:24
Speaker 3: You are sweet, and that's why it's so confusing to
53:27
Speaker 3: watch a music video with those lyrics.
53:30
Speaker 4: Honestly, I think everyone needed to be shocked a little bit.
53:33
Speaker 4: So I think it works out well.
53:36
Speaker 6: Could she's just a daisy though, like she like? Could you?
53:40
Speaker 6: Nobody could be more fitting for the name Daisy than you?
53:44
Speaker 4: Thank you. It's actually didn't. When they got married, they
53:48
Speaker 4: decided my dad would name the girls and my mom
53:50
Speaker 4: would name the boys. So my dad named me Daisy.
53:53
Speaker 4: My mom was like, absolutely not, and then a couple
53:55
Speaker 4: of weeks later, she's like, she's definitely a daisy.
53:59
Speaker 2: She's a daisy. You've got an edge.
54:02
Speaker 3: I've always tried to create one or show one, and
54:05
Speaker 3: sometimes it's worked, sometimes it doesn't. You've got an edge,
54:08
Speaker 3: but you're also a daisy, and you are a terrific
54:11
Speaker 3: asset to this franchise and also to the world, and
54:15
Speaker 3: we appreciate you. And so until next time, I've been Ben.
54:18
Speaker 6: I've been Ashley. She's my daisy. HI.
54:23
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