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- 0:01You've seen this shift, haven't you?
- 0:04They take a few shots, a few shots here and there, and
- 0:07suddenly, out of nowhere, the person you knew is gone.
- 0:11That narcissist detox. A person has disappeared right
- 0:14before your eyes. Either they become the most
- 0:16charming person in the world to everyone except you most times,
- 0:20right? They can be charming to you as
- 0:21well, or they turn into a nightmare.
- 0:24They turn into a monster that looks like everything that you
- 0:27just been afraid of. They look like they want to
- 0:30destroy everything you love, everything you care for,
- 0:32including you, your kids, everybody around, right?
- 0:36As a diagnose narcissist, I'm going to talk to talk to you
- 0:39about the drunk narcissist, right?
- 0:40About how alcohol doesn't change who we are.
- 0:44It really doesn't. It just takes the leash off of
- 0:47the person that we've been hiding.
- 0:49Alcohol just removes the filter. Let's talk about the two faces.
- 0:52The two faces of a drunken narcissist.
- 0:54And I already know what you're going to say.
- 0:56I don't know what you're going to say.
- 0:57Well, leave. All narcissists are two faced
- 0:59without alcohol or not. And you'll be right, right?
- 1:02You'll be right. Look, I ain't gonna hate on you.
- 1:05You got a point there? You have a valid point right
- 1:08there. I ain't gonna hate on you.
- 1:11Well, yeah, welcome to the narcissist code, man.
- 1:13Just get look before we can even get started.
- 1:14I got to let y'all know. I appreciate y'all so much.
- 1:17I took a couple of shots and I'm charming right now.
- 1:19I'm so so I'm in a loving mood. I appreciate you so much.
- 1:22Love y'all. I'm grateful for you and I'm
- 1:24thankful for you. Not that serious.
- 1:25That's me being serious. I'm grateful for all of us,
- 1:27every single one of y'all. Seriously.
- 1:29So let's happen. Let's happen to it y'all.
- 1:31The first one, the first face of a narcissist.
- 1:34We went about the friendly face, the friendly drunk narcissist,
- 1:37the friendly drunk narcissist. Toxic person that is hunting for
- 1:41supply, right? It gets to the point, right
- 1:43where some of y'all might want your narcissist to take a couple
- 1:46of shots because they get nice when they get drunk.
- 1:47Dodged some of them, right? So this sometimes could be a
- 1:51tactic. It's like some of us literally
- 1:53do get happy and generous and loving and compassionate and
- 1:57kind and get turned on very easily when we get drunk, right?
- 2:02We buy rounds for the whole bar for everybody at the party.
- 2:06Everybody else shots on me, drinks on me.
- 2:09We might regret that later on. We'll be so broke because we
- 2:11don't like spending money, but everybody get a shot on me.
- 2:16Like you might love to be around your narcissistic partner when
- 2:21it happens, right? Because they start telling
- 2:23stories, like they start remembering the good times,
- 2:26loving upon you sometimes, right?
- 2:28They start loving upon you, nestling up on you.
- 2:29I love you, but look, rubbing noses with you.
- 2:33I love you. But why do they do this, right?
- 2:37But why did this happen? Because it's, it's a, it's a
- 2:40very, very easy way to get narcissistic supply, right?
- 2:44It very, it really is because if we take a couple of shots, we're
- 2:47not drunk, right? We take a couple of shots, the
- 2:50inhibitions have been lowered enough to the point where we
- 2:53feel like we can be a little bit more vulnerable.
- 2:55So the kindness does come out. Sometimes the compassion does
- 2:58come out. We have a, it seems like we have
- 3:00a higher capacity for empathy and we communicate better in
- 3:03these instances, right? So of course we're getting
- 3:05narcissistic supply. That's why you get some
- 3:07narcissist who drank that not to excess, but they just drank in
- 3:12order to get to this point right here, so they can feel feel
- 3:14good, so they can feel free, so they feel like they have the
- 3:16ability to do what they want to do.
- 3:18Like, and if we get to the point where everybody loves being
- 3:21around us, when we take a couple of shots, we're the life of the
- 3:24party, right? We're we're the life everybody
- 3:26loves. Like I love when Lee take a
- 3:27couple of shots. He own it.
- 3:29He own. We love you, Lee.
- 3:31You know, that's what happens right there.
- 3:33We love you, Lee. I'm the fun guy.
- 3:37You know me? Why?
- 3:38Used to. I haven't drank.
- 3:39I haven't drank anything in 20. Yeah.
- 3:41Damn, it's crazy. My wife has been sober for two
- 3:43years. I haven't drank anything since
- 3:45before Christmas. No, about two months for me.
- 3:48Right. Am I going to be sober for?
- 3:49No, I'm. I'm going to be drinking.
- 3:51I'm just drinking less, right? I don't necessarily need it.
- 3:53But once we become the fun guy, you got to notice.
- 3:56You started noticing stuff, right?
- 3:59You thought noticing things, though.
- 4:00You start thinking like but noted like.
- 4:03Notice how that fun usually stops the second you get into
- 4:08the car. Get when you get home, right?
- 4:10Unless y'all, unless it's just you and them we all around.
- 4:13If you're in a group, the the fun goes away.
- 4:17You know when when the alcohol starts wearing off, the fun
- 4:19starts wearing off, doesn't it? They're not the same person
- 4:22anymore. They start now when the alcohol
- 4:24starts wearing off, the fun start wearing off.
- 4:26The fun start wearing off the nice and starts wearing off and
- 4:28you, you look you on the other end of you like damn, they
- 4:31sobering up. Here come the meanness.
- 4:34Here come the meanness, Here comes the nastiness.
- 4:36You know what I mean? That's crazy, isn't it?
- 4:39Like the this version of the drunk narcissist typically uses
- 4:44alcohol, like I said earlier, to lower your guard as well, so
- 4:48they can love bomb you or reel in somebody else.
- 4:50We can have we can feel like we can become somebody else in that
- 4:54moment or unleash like the little piece of us that might be
- 4:56real sometimes unleash that to help get new supply or to help
- 5:00love bomb you to help us get closer to you.
- 5:04Like it's not. Look, I know when I tell, when I
- 5:06say that right there, people just take offense to it, right,
- 5:11Lee? So you're saying that they can
- 5:12only get, they only get drunk, they can only be around us and
- 5:15love us when they're drunk. No, that's not what I'm saying.
- 5:18I notice how it sounded, but that's not what I'm saying.
- 5:20I'm saying that a lot of narcissists do this so they can
- 5:23be in the mood to deal with you because a lot of narcissists
- 5:25don't like intimacy unless it's just physical, unless it's SEX,
- 5:28right? They don't like the hugging and
- 5:30the kissing and stuff like that. You do.
- 5:32So that's how they get closer to you, don't you?
- 5:34You Something some of them do like, that's how it goes right
- 5:36there. So if you don't, there's two
- 5:40sides of right. If you don't get the nice
- 5:42narcissist, you get the mean one, right?
- 5:49And sometimes the mean narcissist like you get, you get
- 5:51the narcissist that's a then they're functional as a
- 5:53alcoholic, that is never nice. They always mean, right.
- 5:56They always mean no matter how much they drink.
- 5:58But some of them will be nice until they get to a certain
- 6:01until they cross that threshold, right?
- 6:03The mean narcissist, regardless of how they get there, does
- 6:06exist the mean, nasty, evil narcissist.
- 6:09These are the most dangerous. I feel like this kind of goes
- 6:12without saying. These are the most dangerous
- 6:15narcissist to deal with, you know, other than ones that are
- 6:18high on some type of drug. These are the most dangerous
- 6:21ones. Like this narcissist truly has
- 6:25suppressed a lot of rage and it's going to come out air is
- 6:29going to come out when they drink, when they go past that
- 6:32threshold, like anything keeping them in check goes out of the
- 6:37way. It's kind of like having a
- 6:38security guard at the trying to kind of having a security guard
- 6:42at the gate. The security guard takes the day
- 6:44off, right? The security guard of the ego,
- 6:46the security guard of self preservation takes the night
- 6:49off. They go get in the car and drive
- 6:51off because now there's no hold to barred.
- 6:53You know, they finally feel like the same inhibitions or the same
- 6:57walls that come down to allow them to be vulnerable, allow
- 7:00them to be vulnerable in a different way 'cause this anger
- 7:03is another form of vulnerability to that narcissist, right?
- 7:06They finally feel allowed to say all the cruel, mean, evil stuff
- 7:11that they've been wanting to say to you, right?
- 7:14They all the evil stuff that they've been on their mind,
- 7:17things that you have shared with them in confidence, like your
- 7:20past trauma, things that bad things that have happened to you
- 7:23in the past. They are launching that shit
- 7:25that you write now. They are using it as a weapon.
- 7:27They're, they're using it as a battering ram or a club to damn
- 7:31near beat you over the head with it.
- 7:32Right now. They're just assaulting you with
- 7:35this type of craziness, this insanity that's coming out of
- 7:37their mouths and it's damn near nothing you can do with it.
- 7:39Then you can do about it, right? There's nothing you can do about
- 7:42it because they're just reminiscing down your throat.
- 7:43They're just being evil to you. And you know what happens when
- 7:46they sober up? They haven't excused them.
- 7:50They use alcohol as a damn shield, as a shield.
- 7:56They they really do. They can say things like, oh, I
- 7:58was just drunk. I didn't mean any of it.
- 8:01Like you're taking me way too seriously when you were drunk,
- 8:03like when I was drunk, like when you say mean things when you're
- 8:06drunk. I don't take it seriously.
- 8:07I don't even hold it against you.
- 8:09Lie. They do, right?
- 8:11It's it really is the ultimate way to abuse you and not having
- 8:15to own it, right? They try to, they try not to
- 8:18have to own it. I was drunk.
- 8:20I don't remember saying that, but they did say it right?
- 8:23They said some evil, cruel ass stuff to you.
- 8:25They threw your past trauma in your face like it didn't matter.
- 8:29Like it. They say to intentionally try to
- 8:31hurt you and bring pain to you. That's what they did.
- 8:34They intentionally tried to hurt you and bring pain to you.
- 8:37They intentionally try to bring you down, try to bring you down
- 8:41a notch. That's what they did.
- 8:44They did it on and they did it on purpose too.
- 8:46Yeah. What ends up happening is they
- 8:49wake up and they use this, the drunk excuse, and then they try
- 8:51to pretend like they didn't remember.
- 8:53They try to gaslight you and just say I don't remember seeing
- 8:55you do that, right? Go back and watch my very recent
- 8:58video about selective amnesia, right?
- 9:00Where they just like, I didn't say that I didn't do that right.
- 9:05Conveniently y'all narcissist only black out and forget the
- 9:09parts. What?
- 9:10They were mean they remember the niceness right?
- 9:12They were forgetting. Now could black Does blackout
- 9:15drunk exist? Yes it does happen right?
- 9:17But a lot of times narcissists are pretending because they
- 9:20don't want to be held accountable for what they said.
- 9:22They just want you to get over it.
- 9:23They don't want to talk about it or deal with it because they're
- 9:25ashamed of what they've said. So they only remember the fun
- 9:28parts. I remember saying this and
- 9:30dancing on you. I don't remember that crazy
- 9:32stuff. You probably misremember it, but
- 9:34somehow they forget this bad stuff that they said to you.
- 9:37Selective amnesia, really. This forces you into the
- 9:42caretaker role. Now you want to take care of
- 9:44them after they've been evil to you.
- 9:45After they've said, said something or done something.
- 9:47After they cheated on you or kissed your cousin, smacked your
- 9:51mom or dad on the butt, right? You get into this space, you
- 9:55fall into the caretaker role where you're trying to explain
- 9:58to us why we were wrong or we what we did wrong.
- 10:01And we already know we did. We just pretended like we don't
- 10:04know. We just shrug and say, oh, I
- 10:06don't know what you're talking about.
- 10:07Or I was drunk, man. That's what they do.
- 10:10They use drunkenness as an excuse for their behaviors.
- 10:12And it all if, if it is, if it's allowed to work, if it works
- 10:15once, they'll do again and again and again.
- 10:19So now the the thing I want y'all to take away from this
- 10:22right here is like if they are a monster when they drink, they
- 10:26are monster when they are sober too.
- 10:28They just, they just how it is hiding behind something.
- 10:30It's hiding behind that little wall I was on my earlier.
- 10:33It's hiding behind that wall. They're still a monster.
- 10:36They're just waiting to come out.
- 10:38The alcohol brings it out, gives them an excuse, right?
- 10:41It gives them an excuse to do this horrible, evil ass stuff.
- 10:45Well, Lee, if they're a monster when they're drunk, like, what
- 10:48if they're nice? Is that who they really are?
- 10:50Not in particular, right? Could niceness be a part of
- 10:54their personality that they're afraid to let out?
- 10:57Yeah, it could be, but the meanness and stuff like that
- 11:00doesn't make up for it. I'm like, yeah, I can be a nice
- 11:02friend. I'm going to do the nice
- 11:04friendly drunks, but when I get past that point of thing, I'm
- 11:07going crazy. That's why I don't drink to
- 11:08excess anymore because I have said and done some things that I
- 11:12absolutely regret and I just can't drink to excess anymore
- 11:15because they I don't want to have that happen again.
- 11:17I don't want to have that excuse.
- 11:18I want to be present and I don't want things to take over my life
- 11:21or just like in in situation like that.
- 11:22I don't want things that ruin my life or rule my life or anything
- 11:25like that. Man, that's truly what I don't
- 11:27want. So you have to protect yourself.
- 11:29Protect your peace y'all. If you've dealt with a drunk
- 11:31narcissist, type drunk narcissist or drunk truth in the
- 11:34truck in the comment section, right?
- 11:35Doesn't type drunk. They don't type drunk.
- 11:37Just drop a beer or something. Drop a beer emoji in the comment
- 11:39section. Let me know that you've dealt
- 11:40with it and what not, y'all. I might do a video about drug
- 11:42addiction and narcissistic abuse pay pretty soon.
- 11:45I'm just got to think of the script and we're on some intros
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- 12:00Peace.