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Talks to Mark Rawlins about his choice of The Android Invasion (4/4) · A Hamster With a Blunt Penknife - a Doctor Who Commentary podcast

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  Welcome back to a hamster with him.
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  Drunk dropping off. Welcome back to am stuff with a
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  blunt penknife. I'm Mark.
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  Oh, straight here to talk to Coventry podcast.
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  Okay, can we please start this again?
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  I've got a question for you. Yeah.
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  Well, do you imagine right? The wives of the Great's of
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  Doctor, Who this time I'm talking about Carrie Nation
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  finish for this Hinchcliffe. I'm Roberta Holmes, who got
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  together? Yeah.
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  When have you seen it for a million people?
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  Watch this week, terrible at ho Terry is still not finished his
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  Dear as they, there's a Roberto homes.
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  Yeah, he's waiting for it. Philip Hinchcliffe.
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  Slight, always getting greyer all the time.
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  Working with this pair. Then I have a serious question
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  for you though. A genuine.
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  Okay here is question. Well, it's about know you and I
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  have already discussed on talents pointing triangle
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  saluton Malloy. Yeah, it's, that's a look more
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  noise. Again, about part fours.
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  Of Philip, Hinchcliffe time and how perhaps they As satisfying
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  as the part ones, right? Yeah.
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  Never before has this been exemplified more than in the
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  Android Invasion where we have already discussed, how the part
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  one is pretty for - killer this part for well what can you say?
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  Well it's because everything has been revealed, hasn't it all the
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  suspense is go. The exact are in a true story
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  and now it's just right. We need to just get To the
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  finish line and wrap everything up.
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  There's still a little bit of up and down here of a of excitement
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  and Intrigue a little bit. Well, action-adventure, well,
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  and the countdown, there is a countdown, always love a
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  countdown to a relation does. Well, if talk to who loves
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  countdown friend, Carrie Nations Whispering, it's okay Terry.
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  You've not / countdown in this one, your minds but Holmes
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  countdown love. I've lost my train of thought.
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  Part of yours. Wasn't I?
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  Mmm, and unsatisfying climaxes? No, I'm not going to go there.
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  Not what I'm doing this for you. And what I would like to say,
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  Are you drunk? But one coffee?
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  Well, Gloria, every while folks with the gays and you going,
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  what's the point? I was trying to make your talk
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  about part fools and how the Android inflation might not be
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  as satisfactorily part, for fact?
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  Really. Satisfying, let's just watch the
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  face, right? Let's go.
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  Everyone with the and renovation part for this is a doctor who
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  audio commentary podcast throw. It ain't your mama.
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  And Joe digging about. We're gonna go and carry on.
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  Let's talk about part 4. Oh right, they digging about the
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  lie. Here we go.
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  Every detail of the crowd Invasion has been rehearsed.
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  This is on the only, the doctor can foil their plan and he is
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  millions of miles, what you mean he's there?
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  No, it wasn't. They left there in the current
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  space to level things for me and viewers.
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  So they haven't actually got back down to earth.
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  So, actually, this is an interesting.
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  The shift. Because now we're on the real
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  Earth. Yeah, it's something different.
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  But this is now like every other Doctor Who Alien Invasion story
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  I suppose the interesting thing here is that method is that
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  they're going to replace people with the Android and you've got
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  an alien virus that with the virus.
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  Yeah. So I wonder if in the climax of
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  this exciting Adventure, they'll bring the two of those things
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  together, the Androids and the virus to defeat the crawls.
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  I would hope so they do. Yeah, they do.
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  We know that there is a plot point.
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  The Barry Letts laments on the documentary.
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  Did you hear it? No, he goes well.
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  All the addresses are turned off.
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  Right. Or then the doctor defeats the
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  Android device blocking the signal.
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  The doctor the fake doctor would have is the one that I think is
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  dead, isn't it? And he goes oh don't cry about
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  him. He's only a an Android Sarah,
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  they've all been turned off at that point that the doctor would
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  have done something. So that's particular signals
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  isolated or something like that. I don't think that's a major
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  plot Point major plot hole. I don't think when all the wives
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  were sitting around reading the scripts, I don't think they,
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  Pointed that out. Now will they probably should
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  have done, maybe they'll fix em Lynne when she was reading Don
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  Howton scripts when she was writing them out for him.
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  She used to say to him. Don we that don't make any
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  sense. And by the way, there's a
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  Chinese woman in this. I can play this role.
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  So is this, that is the robot doctor.
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  No, no, that's a real doctor hidden away that we've just
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  seen. That's right.
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  Yeah. Because there's a sequence in a
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  minute, isn't there? Where him and Sarah came out of
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  the pods. And they look very sinister.
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  That's really an image and I hear you talkin about picks em
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  limb, right? Do you remember in that Journey
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  that I've just thought of box set?
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  Yes, she turned up randomly, didn't she?
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  She stories know as well. So character, they want of evil.
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  My name is going on about diplomatic incidents and things.
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  Mr. Foo Peng. No, that's the one she's working
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  for What's her name? I can't lie.
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  Gently, that's it. You're not playing.
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  Chinle know. She was playing this weird.
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  She was in a 45-minute so gender-bending, villain.
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  Oh yes, of course. Yes, I think it was a bloke all
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  the way through, and then turns out it was picks em Lynne.
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  Yeah, very good. Incredibly diverse.
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  I'm sure there are lots of different parts.
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  Here we go. Sarah lamenting the fact that
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  there's a crazy plan to get them up into space now.
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  But now we've got to get back in the pods and land on Earth in
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  the pods. Yeah, you know, I've done a lot.
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  I is a bit tricky about this one.
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  Is that there are lots of things to cross off, isn't there?
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  That? Like they've introduced all of
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  these elements and so it's all a bit unwieldy in episode 4.
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  In episode 1, when it was all mystery leading up to the twist
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  it All, here we go, we're on Earth.
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  And we, yeah, it's a nice change in.
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  Like you said, this is a great set.
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  We've got everybody working in the research center.
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  I don't know if you know this, but the week before we these
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  events here was, in fact, the Space Center Christmas party and
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  the receptionist. And the man with the mustache,
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  right? Mmm.
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  They ended up snug in oh they didn't know their hold on the
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  back alley of the pulp Yeah. You why are you watching this
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  are giving each other Sly looks. It's a bit like a Deo lion that
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  in Army, ghosts. We've got the real Harry and
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  Benton here. Now Which is, and there is a
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  definitive change in their performance because there are a
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  lot more Charming, all of a sudden.
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  And again we missed the Brigadier, don't we?
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  Well yeah this Colonel Faraday. This Colonel blimp its mother
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  from The Avengers the travel. He's is he's in no way as
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  Charming as Nicholas Courtney. I can see why they would have
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  cast him at. He seems to play these
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  characters, doesn't he? Yeah.
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  But have you seen him in the Avengers where he's going around
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  in a wheelchair, being really quirky.
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  He's really fun in this. He is just playing your it's
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  just this image. Here you go.
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  Harry fake. Brigadier and Benton it.
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  To really pour water down unit from those heydays of the Third
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  Doctor. Actually enjoy.
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  It's like season a and now we're just left with the dregs then of
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  range of unit drugs. If you do unfortunately you
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  remember the Heyday of Mike Yates.
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  It's just a shame Corporal Bell, Corporal Bell and these research
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  people are sort of non non characters, really?
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  Just glorified extra is that don't deserve a plot point.
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  It's just all a bit but it can I can I please He's save how
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  refreshing it is to see both a person of color and a woman
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  working in this because that never would have happened in the
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  60s. I don't know.
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  You know, it's yeah, I thought it's just ait's a bit more of a
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  bustling. What there's like three three
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  people waiting for this big launch.
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  This guy's been lost in to in space for ages.
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  Where's like the news people? Where's all the?
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  I know everyone should be waiting.
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  Could have that guy. That was reported in the
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  ambassadors, a death. So we're waiting for the things
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  to come in and people exactly and all that kind of thing base,
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  come on. And you don't see the rest of
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  the world being affected by this huge Alien Invasion.
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  It's just always told off screen.
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  Yeah. And it's just not and it's in
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  those the same happens with the same Forest that was on the fake
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  lat. You wouldn't tell the story this
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  way anymore. No, you'd be showing how it's
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  affecting the people at home. You know how the people on the
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  streets are affected by all of this.
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  Yeah, you'd have, you know, someone turn up, you don't Turn
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  up for their dinner, you know, funny, very Sinister.
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  And I'm like, what's wrong with you today?
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  Yeah, you could have the real Pub or something.
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  Yeah. With some one person walking a
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  bit because that can they, I know they filmed it in the same
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  places that they filmed the other lot.
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  So it doesn't give you that extra different.
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  No, that's clever. But I think that's clever
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  because it's using the, the location.
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  Creatively in two different ways.
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  I've was that they're all looking a bit tense all doing
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  their best. No, no.
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  Nobody's like awful. It's not.
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  You know what for once? I think the sets too big, you're
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  right. If they just had like a corner
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  of a studio. Yeah.
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  Those few people, it would look a bit bustling but it's fast.
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  So I have that fight sequence later on, I ever believed that
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  guy. Crowfoot astronaut it just
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  appeared on the screen in the spacesuit know, I don't Camp in
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  the cannot wait to get that eye patch from variable.
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  I'll God, he's wearing an eyepatch getting a bit kinky
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  this one. Oh, bless the helmet.
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  Is one of those originally made for the BBC drama.
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  Serial, Moonbase free? That's Barry.
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  Listen, Terry sticks. So, will those suits, then moon
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  base 3, and then Planet, the Daleks?
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  And then here because those are just the helmet, just the
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  helmet. Yeah.
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  Yeah. Om also was disappointed with
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  Harry's Robin. The story.
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  I'll not make sense for Harry to be there because medical officer
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  and he's going to give guy once over when he gets down.
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  But why it's, why he's been Benton's.
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  Therefore the because we're unit yellow is its visual shorthand.
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  Isn't him. You ever seen 70s porn?
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  No. Oh, okay.
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  Well then it's in the old beard. Bob, do you know, a man with a
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  big mustache that it's like every 70s porn star.
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  Oh, I love this. See know this been where she
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  sees the doctrines are in the pods.
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  And then the Dudley since was horns of death Dada Dada Dada
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  Dada Dada come in as they go off together.
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  Now that is a premise for a Story evil doctrines, imagine
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  having a story on one and they were all from the beginning
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  right there. And then it's revealed at the
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  end of episode two that they were duplicates all along, but
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  Tom Baker's performance is brilliant.
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  Here a bit like Elizabeth's layden's in the shop earlier to
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  Let's because it's obvious and you making it obvious that it's.
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  Yeah. It goes.
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  You know, it would not suit our plans.
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  Yes, isn't it? There's no pretense there that
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  to trick the audience or anything?
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  Don't, you see that the film content or the Android Invasion
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  averages nearly eight minutes per episode?
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  I don't know. I don't have the info takes on
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  every single time. Yeah, fascinating information.
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  That's a total of more than 31 minutes.
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  Of the story. And it's got more filming than
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  any other of the Hinchcliffe cereals.
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  That's why you love it and it all this in a lot of ways.
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  And in Tom Baker's entire seven-year run, only the power
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  of pro, add more, 34 minutes, power of crow bum, bum bum.
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  That's just really slow long shots of people going up and
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  down, boats, boats by reads on, they have power Kroll.
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  Don't start me on power crowd and do, do do, do, do, do, do.
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  Dude. Anyway, originally they were
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  called technicians one, two, and three.
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  Let's Terry Nation for you. These people names in my place
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  and Eric's award are quite similar in their approaches.
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  Know, I see these are K. I'm going to sound like a
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  hypocrite. We're gone.
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  So two Nations kill people. I do say, yeah, I do say Terry
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  Nation. Maybe not put the thing in this
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  Square. Eric's a word.
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  I'm very Critical of unfortunately violence.
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  I just think he just is not a great script editor and not a
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  great writer. I love Revelation Daleks, I
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  think script editor, he's not great as script editor because I
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  love that visitations a great script Revelation.
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  Adonis is a great script. It's script editor and all of
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  the though, you know the doctor and Perry stuff which is you
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  know things are script editor. Should be looking at Eric's a
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  board did not do his job, I'm sorry.
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  Well you have spoken and I mean, I would criticize the writing in
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  in that, okay, alterations done this or it's a would stun this.
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  Why did you do this? I would not be able to write a
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  script from scratch myself. I'm not a writer.
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  I think I could do script editing, though, if someone gave
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  me a product, I could look through it and say, the change
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  stuff, I think I could do that. And, you know, I could criticize
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  that if I could not criticize things like a bitch.
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  Well, I don't know, I just think when you look at it you can put
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  our wish I'd done this or this, but there's usually but also
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  there's usually behind the scenes, a lot of reasons, time
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  just pressures, all that kind of is understandable but what is
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  very good. So I like the windows say Eric
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  say would just annoys me, I don't think he did a very good
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  job. During Doctor Who the script
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  says, he's got a six or seven scripts on the go, and they're
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  all of various age. Exactly.
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  Exactly. You're reading all part.
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  Not just sitting here. Luxurious?
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  What she on DVD being that? Obviously, right next one,
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  you've got everything else going on, I so it's understandable.
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  It's very easy for aside Isabel. It's very easy to say I'm and
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  yeah, he relaxes think you're right.
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  Yeah, I wouldn't say I. Yeah, but I'm not a writer.
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  I'm not alright. I couldn't write anything like
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  this. Man.
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  You can edit though can edit stuff.
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  Your edit beautiful, you know, there's a sequence in a second.
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  I think it's coming up so we just had the doctor go in past
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  Max Faulkner and Go. Oh hi.
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  It's me. You see an Android version on
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  me? Yeah don't let him through.
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  Yeah, in a minute. That's it, right.
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  Did we get the pit? Where Tom, but he comes in and
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  he gets shot in the stomach and he goes satisfied.
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  Yeah, that's great moments in really creepy.
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  Isn't it over it? This is our last ever glimpse of
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  the real Benton. Our shame.
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  He's unconscious. Do we only see the fake Benson
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  after this? So I'm going out.
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  He was he John Levine with this and he wasn't happy working with
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  Tom Baker. He's very critical to.
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  Well, I think fun anymore. Well, I think he's probably had
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  a great time. We Jon Pertwee and all of that.
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  She say the hey daytime and then you come into it and it's a
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  different environment. So, completely different crew
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  working on this whole, I think Joe Jon Pertwee use the unit
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  crew as like a safety blanket. Mmm.
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  Where and they just made him didn't need it. so at
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  apparently, you know, if you heard Tom Baker, talking about
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  John Levine and were talking about Sergeant Benson, he goes,
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  you know, you've made us laugh because you know we were like
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  you know this guy calling for has gum straight you know that
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  he's supposed to believe it's you know a soldier in his army
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  protecting the the planet from Alien invasions Something about
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  the kind of Faraday's performance.
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  Or the character is a bit, is it?
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  Because I'm looking at his, like a comedy because, you know what?
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  He, I've just remembered he plays a MP in, man, about the
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  house, the movie, and I think I'm joking, right?
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  I think it's Diana dors or something comes.
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  He's having an affair with her or something, in these Stones
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  were working me, confound it Yes, okay, I'll see you later.
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  Yes. I'll bring the gym slip, you
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  know, that kind of thing or something like that.
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  So I see that actor as well as been in Avengers and stuff.
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  So I he he's playing it like a comedy go over.
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  So go break. I literally just jumped out of a
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  window and do the roll. Like I'm so cool.
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  So go and you know what? I actually think it's always so
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  weird to see Tom Baker, firing a gun.
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  Yeah. This is where Barry Letts comes
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  into his. All these scenes where it's to
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  doctors and things. And I think he's technically
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  competent enough to do that to make that look and it's good.
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  Yeah. And to work out those shots of
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  yeah, it's not. I mean that this time it's not
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  easy to do that constant. You have to be like, right?
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  So I'll just get that week on film me this way.
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  No more film be this way. But and he's learned his craft
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  presently by directing things like Terror of the autons planet
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  Carnival of monsters and the spiders You know, he knows, he
• 18:51
  knows the show inside out, damn classic.
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  Who with faint praise. Hmm.
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  But do you think there is any larger?
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  Do you think P classic who is Tom Baker and Elisabeth, sladen
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  running around on location? Because I do I think that yeah I
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  think is the best thing in the world.
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  Just watch all day. Can yeah, dashing around the
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  estate in pyramids on Mars. Shame, we didn't get like the
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  film, like the scratch man or something.
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  This time. Dr. They were going to make a
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  film. All these guys on film.
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  I'll look at this in a Invasion of the Body Snatchers and shoots
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  him. And he goes, oh no, no no,
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  that's the real doctor. They keep the next one day, they
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  do what they do, is they keep doing these repetitive scenes
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  where you don't know who is, who at the.
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  And so we have this scene with him, unconvincingly climbing up
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  the Gantry of the rocket, and then we go back to the entrance
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  again. And then bent and shoots him in
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  the car. And you remember the improvise a
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  scene oh my god I've shot a lot with her outside but I think
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  what does just the look? Yes that is fide but Barry Letts
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  has put the gun pellet thing in his stomach.
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  Yeah and then it pans out his face that's the only other time
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  I can remember that being done was to buy us along when he got
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  shot in the invasion and Then the camera goes up and he
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  laughed his head off. Oh, look at that dish on the so,
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  you know, in Sarah, Jane Adventures, mmm Series, 2
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  episode 1. The one, with the sontaran, the
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  last on Tyrone. Yeah.
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  They go off to a space center with a big dish.
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  I like to protect you think it's this one.
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  Oh no, this is the thing. Retailers in life hatch.
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  Oh, hang on. This is the doctor as no.
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  Tom Baker is the Android telling craford, isn't it?
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  This isn't the doctor. Cuz the doctor wouldn't be
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  holding a gun. Yeah, true.
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  Oh you know you feel for no don't you even know?
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  He's a fucking idiot is for he isn't here but you I still think
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  you feel sorry for him like somehow he goes up to this
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  mirror. Might and selves this thing
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  because I'm papers. Yeah, it's brilliant acting for
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  what he's given is brilliant acting.
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  The Joy. Does it has that sort of like,
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  oh, curse is Haynes face? That sort of.
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  It's weird. Sitting, I mean, just like, you
• 21:33
  soon with the eye patch on her brother's whole story and now, I
• 21:36
  don't know. Here we go.
• 21:38
  This is a great fi they get the wig quite right?
• 21:44
  Yeah. For one time.
• 21:45
  Yeah. Just remember the Jon Pertwee
• 21:47
  weeks. Well whiny.
• 21:48
  Well as well and that's why they're frozen.
• 22:08
  And he'll if you picked up some bacon and him, throw him on the
• 22:11
  floor, on his back. Oh my guess, more, so motion.
• 22:16
  And then do all the actors. Have to stay still down there.
• 22:19
  Wow, that's a pause. Are that is a pause, but I think
• 22:24
  that's quite a effective thing to do, though, to just freeze
• 22:27
  freeze frame. Oh, yeah, sure, you get an easy,
• 22:30
  well, rather than everyone I don't think it'd be convincing
• 22:32
  for the actress just stopped. It just wouldn't use made with
• 22:35
  watching robots. Are deaf the other week and
• 22:37
  those poor men in there. Robot costumes, were wobbling.
• 22:39
  Precariously, all over the set. Are we?
• 22:43
  What we most to get super Sarah and Harry just one brief.
• 22:46
  Yeah, now that chance to catch up and well, that's that's the
• 22:50
  really bad thing. Is the plot ends and then
• 22:53
  they're back to the Tardis. We don't see Benton Harry,
• 22:56
  nobody, it's not time to wrap it up for some reason.
• 23:01
  I think this is the last of Harry apart from shame, Harry
• 23:04
  Sullivan's war. I've not read it.
• 23:07
  Oh well there's no Harry now. Me in the Seventh Doctor and big
• 23:10
  finish Sullivan and cross John. Yeah.
• 23:15
  But we don't know when that set I could have been before this so
• 23:17
  This hairy here facing sticker on could know all about
• 23:20
  Sylvester McCoy maybe maybe a what you see is what you made
• 23:25
  him? Well I don't know when it's set.
• 23:26
  Yeah he's almost saying big finish that Geniuses you know.
• 23:31
  And the Sea Devils get attacked by X of chromite.
• 23:34
  Gasps. Yes and the sort of Iran will be
• 23:36
  out at the eyes and you know when messed or gets acid in the
• 23:41
  face and sort of melts all over the place and really disgusting,
• 23:47
  I think this is where it all starts.
• 23:48
  It's the same stuff, isn't it? And he proper flips and goes
• 23:53
  right onto it, doesn't it would. But it's a fun way of like it's
• 23:58
  so funny. That is epic fail of the week.
• 24:01
  On you, Jim is there would be like, yeah, look at it.
• 24:11
  What you imagined that was because it really started.
• 24:13
  So foaming up. Horrible horrible.
• 24:18
  That's what you was going to do to the human race though.
• 24:21
  Look kind of Faraday's in the background looking like, what's
• 24:24
  happening? I wash.
• 24:25
  And I woke up this morning. Although oh yeah, there was
• 24:34
  supposed to be a speech. I like why does Tom bike is
• 24:40
  always fit perfectly these actuators because he's got
• 24:43
  broccoli or it's just like that. That's why we noted earlier, the
• 24:50
  smoking was commonplace in 1975 and here comes another sign of
• 24:53
  the times dot dot. The script, describes, his final
• 24:57
  scene as idyllic as a cigarette commercial because Terry
• 25:01
  Nations, right? And he's sitting there smoking
• 25:03
  drinking, right? It was a trees.
• 25:05
  Birds twittering Sarah sniffing a flower.
• 25:11
  My mom's holiday after this. Wow.
• 25:15
  Then there's what we have after this.
• 25:18
  Oh, your planet Vivo. Yes.
• 25:20
  So it's ended up evil planet for this.
• 25:24
  Oh, yeah. Course it's periods.
• 25:26
  Mars parents bars back into the same Forest.
• 25:33
  We've been here before. Didn't Sarah to get really
• 25:36
  annoyed about Sarah going into the fathers of the end of this,
• 25:39
  didn't she? Yeah.
• 25:41
  After all that time that Sarah has been like I want to go home,
• 25:44
  I want to get back, get back home then she's like okay I'm
• 25:47
  off for go there's a big rant on our to watch Who episode of this
• 25:50
  marvelous. Check it out if you want to know
• 25:53
  more about the story. Lot about this last scene has
• 25:55
  yeah, well, I have to say that. Wow, marvelously pie.
• 26:02
  Well, you have have the unenviable task now because this
• 26:05
  is one of your favorites. You got to give three impressive
• 26:08
  reasons, why people should go right immediately.
• 26:13
  Well, okay, Barry Letts wonderful Direction the film
• 26:17
  working this over, 30 minutes worth of it.
• 26:20
  In this story, your classic Peak doctor And Sarah in a forest
• 26:26
  atmosphere. Yeah.
• 26:29
  Are you doing all three in one, go.
• 26:31
  I'm just saying everything. I love of others over.
• 26:33
  Here you go. The suspense of part one, and
• 26:37
  the feel of this, and the feel of this in context with the
• 26:41
  actual season itself, like we said, it does.
• 26:45
  It's often seen as a weaker story, but I think it stands out
• 26:51
  more because it's not hasn't got that Gothic nurses.
• 26:54
  A different feel. It's bit more refreshing.
• 26:58
  What else? Okay.
• 26:59
  Part four is a little bit weaker, but it's an enjoyable
• 27:04
  adventure with the Fourth Doctor and Sarah.
• 27:08
  And that. What else could you want?
• 27:10
  Oh, we did say that with Peak television, didn't we?
• 27:12
  Yeah, I mean, I've gotta put 3 + H.
• 27:15
  Well, that's how this works going to sail.
• 27:17
  The dick sounds aren't you? Ah well no I'm not actually no.
• 27:21
  I'm going to say Barry. Letts is technical.
• 27:24
  Wizardry. Yeah, which I think is in full
• 27:26
  force in this story, that knows what to do, doesn't it?
• 27:28
  People think people say he's Direction as a little lackluster
• 27:31
  compared to some of the others of this season.
• 27:33
  But actually I feel like especially in episodes 1 & 2.
• 27:37
  That's some of the best directed material of season 13.
• 27:40
  And I bet you he went, he came under time and in budget, I bet
• 27:46
  the guy jumps over the cliff in slow motion.
• 27:49
  Amazing. He manages to make that gentle
• 27:51
  incline look like a vertiginous drop that.
• 27:54
  Sarah Jane is coming down and I okay apart from maybe that
• 27:57
  moment as well. Barry Letts is delivering a nice
• 28:00
  family. You know, Mary Whitehouse would
• 28:02
  probably approve of this story out of all of the Season.
• 28:05
  He's not done or do not Rose Garden.
• 28:07
  Yeah. But there's nothing
• 28:08
  controversial. There's nothing so violent Sarah
• 28:10
  Jane's going around with a guy but it's fantasy.
• 28:12
  They are Androids there that the alien threat and the kind they
• 28:17
  could have had that. It's very Less in his sort of
• 28:22
  tameness to it in a way but that's not A bad thing they
• 28:25
  could have done. Hmm.
• 28:26
  Well, this is a faker they could have had Mary Whitehouse in the
• 28:28
  story. Ha ha ha.
• 28:29
  Get back doctor. She could have been the monster
• 28:33
  in the climax to me by put me in it.
• 28:39
  Frightening, Doctor Who for a week.
• 28:44
  I also think I just love how Sonny this is as well.
• 28:47
  I think like because a lot of season 13, well the Hinchcliffe
• 28:50
  era is brooding and shadows and all that.
• 28:53
  And I do Off the atmosphere of it.
• 28:55
  But for four weeks, it's bright and sunny and Breezy and Pacey
• 29:01
  and just delightful. Yeah.
• 29:03
  It's like a bracing glass of lemonade.
• 29:05
  It's brilliant. Like a cigarette advert.
• 29:09
  Oh. And there is one more thing as
• 29:11
  well as this I was going to Paris you.
• 29:12
  At the end of this, I am going to embarrass you.
• 29:14
  At the end of this is. Okay, okay.
• 29:16
  Okay. Well, this Android Invasion,
• 29:19
  this is where you and me first met, it's at the very first
• 29:22
  time, we clapped eyes on you. Vaughn do member you turned up
• 29:25
  on that screen doing their thing.
• 29:27
  I have sex with that man. Now I'm drinking.
• 29:32
  No that's not the parachute with but obviously it has changed
• 29:37
  both of our Lives quite a bit since we can watch the Android
• 29:42
  information. So my point is is I have a lot
• 29:46
  to thank the Android Invasion for it is marvelous.
• 29:51
  You got very quiet again. It is marvelous Jesus.
• 30:03
  Where we going next? Oh yes we are going to the far
• 30:08
  future aren't we the far future? It doesn't he say oh yeah this
• 30:12
  is that the edge of all known experiences or someone because
• 30:16
  they look back. They've been watching Doctor
• 30:18
  over there. Yeah, they look back and we're
• 30:20
  going to the far future to the planet off the Savages.
• 30:25
  What you doing it in Jon pertwee's voice of the Savages
• 30:30
  to a boil. That was my italics.
• 30:35
  They're closing in, that's William Hartnell.
• 30:38
  It sounds just like your job /. Well well well well, I never got
• 30:41
  back this far in time before I get my vibrator out, my brooch
• 30:47
  are know if I break. It doesn't need to anticipate
• 30:50
  the bash. Anyway, we'll get into that when
• 30:52
  we talk about else, can you just see us out?
• 30:53
  Please with a quote from dodo, I'll what'd she say something in
• 30:57
  a terrible Cockney accent, I'll stevedore He's gonna be any
• 31:07
  better. It was somebody up there.