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Top 5 Young Players the USMNT Should Call Up This Fall · Inside American Soccer with Tom Bogert and Tab Ramos

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Speaker 1: If you would have cold him phenom on this show
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Speaker 1: five months ago, I would have said, I would have said, Okay, Tom,
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Speaker 1: let's relax year, let's take a step back.
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Speaker 2: What's going on?
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Speaker 3: Everybody? Welcome back see Inside American Soccer. I'm your host,
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Speaker 3: US MT insider Tom Bogan. I'm joined by one of
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Speaker 3: the greatest players in US soccer history, my friend tab
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Speaker 3: Ramos tab We are almost a month past the World
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Speaker 3: Cup ending. We are now a week and a half
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Speaker 3: from the Premier League and other major European league starting. Yes,
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Speaker 3: there's been MLS, there's been League's Cup and everything, But
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Speaker 3: have you gotten any sort of a reprieve from sitting
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Speaker 3: in front of your TV and watching soccer?
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Speaker 2: Do you feel refreshed and ready to go for the
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Speaker 2: season ahead?
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Speaker 1: I have to say, you know, after the World Cup
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Speaker 1: was over, I was really I was really down.
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Speaker 4: You know.
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Speaker 1: I felt like, man, we gotta wait four more years
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Speaker 1: for something like this again, because it truly was a
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Speaker 1: great World Cup.
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Speaker 4: I couldn't get enough of it.
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Speaker 1: And then I was like, okay, well, well now we
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Speaker 1: can prepare and go back to watching MLS games, which
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Speaker 1: I didn't get too excited about at first, And then
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Speaker 1: same thinking about, hey, you know, we're only a month
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Speaker 1: away from all the big European leagues started, but I
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Speaker 1: couldn't get excited about that, And then talking about the
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Speaker 1: national team with you know, Puschettino getting rehired and like, yeah,
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Speaker 1: but you know, we're so far away from anything that
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Speaker 1: really matters, and I was not getting excited about that.
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Speaker 1: But I have to tell you now, it's starting to
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Speaker 1: get excited about all this because you know, it took
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Speaker 1: it took a couple of weeks, but I feel like
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Speaker 1: it's getting time.
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Speaker 4: I miss I miss I missed soccer.
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Speaker 1: I started to get into League's Cup and watching those games,
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Speaker 1: and uh and now we have, you know, the European
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Speaker 1: League starting in about another week or so, so we're
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Speaker 1: we're right there, Tom, I'm really excited about it. And
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Speaker 1: by the way, the national team now just gave us
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Speaker 1: all the games that we're going to talk about. Now
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Speaker 1: we have something to look forward to, and uh so, yeah,
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Speaker 1: I'm ready to go. I'm ready to go.
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Speaker 3: Let's go, you know, and any anything fun outside of
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Speaker 3: the soccer world to to hold you.
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Speaker 1: Over, well interesting. I don't know if i'd say fun,
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Speaker 1: but I have, you know, my youngest daughter is going
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Speaker 1: to college and uh, we're moving her in later this week.
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Speaker 1: And uh, it's uh, yeah, it's it's it's tough. Uh
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Speaker 1: and she's uh but she's so ready to go.
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Speaker 4: Uh. It's been exciting.
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Speaker 1: It's been exciting for us to try to help her, uh,
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Speaker 1: you know, guide her into what's going to be the
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Speaker 1: hopefully the best time of her life. And uh and
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Speaker 1: she gets a great education on the way.
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Speaker 4: So good.
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Speaker 3: Well that's super exciting. Congrats to the Ramos family. Another
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Speaker 3: success story therein As you alluded to, tab Us Soccer
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Speaker 3: announced the September on October. Friend, He's reminder, this is
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Speaker 3: a combined window, one that is longer so it has
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Speaker 3: less travel. It's gonna be the September and October window together,
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Speaker 3: rather than stopping the leagues twice in the fall after
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Speaker 3: the leagues are coming back a bit later than normal
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Speaker 3: because of the World Cup. The US is playing Peru, Chile, Mexico,
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Speaker 3: and Canada in that order. All four games are going
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Speaker 3: to be in the United States, so they get to
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Speaker 3: South American teams, two of the teams that did not
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Speaker 3: qualify for the World Cup.
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Speaker 2: It is a difficult window at the moment.
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Speaker 3: Every window is to try to plan and schedule friendlies
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Speaker 3: for higher level opponents because there's so many competitions. There's
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Speaker 3: Nations League, there's sure that there will be a new
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Speaker 3: FIFA competition somewhere along the way that they're trying to sell.
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Speaker 3: So tat what do you think about those four opponents
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Speaker 3: and the start of a new cycle.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, so I'll start with this.
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Speaker 1: So I went back to see, you know, sort of
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Speaker 1: pick off the best parts of you know, Mariso Bochettino's
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Speaker 1: press conference because you know, again, you know, unlike I
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Speaker 1: think other federations, we don't hear anything from the actual
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Speaker 1: federations about where we're going, what's happening next, why you know,
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Speaker 1: why we hired this coach, what the idea is moving forward.
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Speaker 1: We really don't get information, so we have to pick
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Speaker 1: words here and there. You know, Pochettino says, our objective
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Speaker 1: is to play the best teams possible.
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Speaker 4: That's it. So that's what we're looking at.
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Speaker 1: So I'm assuming, and I'm going to assume as we
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Speaker 1: move forward into these four games, that we're just looking
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Speaker 1: into a continuation of Pochettino playing the way we played
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Speaker 1: in the World Cup and hopefully we can develop a
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Speaker 1: little bit more consistency, because you know, if there's one
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Speaker 1: thing we've seen over the last two years is that
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Speaker 1: inconsistency of you know, we have one window in which
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Speaker 1: we do great and we're all excited about the team,
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Speaker 1: and then the next window we do really poorly and
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Speaker 1: we're like, okay.
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Speaker 4: Let's get everybody out of here.
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Speaker 1: You know, and I know we're extreme, but let's see
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Speaker 1: if you know, over these four games, we can start
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Speaker 1: developing that consistency and we can actually see the team
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Speaker 1: playing the way we played in the World Cup, which
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Speaker 1: would be I think, I think nice to build on
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Speaker 1: moving forward. So I'm looking towards I'm looking forward to that,
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Speaker 1: to watching Marico Pochettino continue to develop what we saw
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Speaker 1: in the World Cup. Although the World Cup also had
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Speaker 1: its ups and downs, but I really want to see
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Speaker 1: that develop and I think and I think we can
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Speaker 1: start maybe judging the team on that, you know, when
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Speaker 1: the time comes. But I think I think this is
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Speaker 1: a this is a pretty good window.
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Speaker 4: Tom.
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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, you mentioned, you know, the first
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Speaker 1: two teams, Peru and Chile, they didn't qualify to the
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Speaker 1: World Cup. The game against Peru will be in Orlando. UH.
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Speaker 1: Their their coach there, Manu Menezzuh coach at Fluminense. He's
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Speaker 1: sort of a Brazilian influence that's coming into you know,
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Speaker 1: and I'm not sure how much like listeners will know
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Speaker 1: about sort of the history of Peru, because Peru has
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Speaker 1: not been too relevant, you know, let's say in the
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Speaker 1: last couple decades and in UH in World Cups and
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Speaker 1: in international football in general. But they're a country that
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Speaker 1: likes to play good football, you know. They they like
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Speaker 1: the ball on the ground, they like the possession game.
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Speaker 1: And although this coach doesn't necessarily show the possession game,
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Speaker 1: he he he does like to play and I think
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Speaker 1: this will be a good team.
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Speaker 4: He normally lines up in a four two three one.
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Speaker 1: I don't want to give up too much because it
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Speaker 1: doesn't really matter, but I think that's what we're looking at.
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Speaker 4: And you know, I think here's the.
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Speaker 1: Important part about Peru, which will be the same with Chile,
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Speaker 1: is they're rebuilding. I mean, they're serious about they have
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Speaker 1: to get their program back on board. This is sort
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Speaker 1: of embarrassing for both of these national teams. Peru and
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Speaker 1: Chile haven't had so many South American teams qualify. It
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Speaker 1: was it seven time, it was six plus one six.
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Speaker 1: To have six plus one and for Chile and Peru
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Speaker 1: not be part of any of that is truly embarrassing
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Speaker 1: for them, and I think they're certainly serious about rebuilding teams,
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Speaker 1: so I think this will be a serious window. Chile
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Speaker 1: has an interim coach at the moment. I'm not sure
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Speaker 1: if he was named full time coach, but is nick
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Speaker 1: Las Kordova, who work with their youth national team, so
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Speaker 1: he knows their players really well. So that'll be let's
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Speaker 1: I'll just focus on those two first, in case you
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Speaker 1: want to add something.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, So they finished ninth and tenth in the ten
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Speaker 3: team South American World Up qualifying. Obviously, it's a beast
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Speaker 3: to qualify inside America. You have your heavyweights at the top,
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Speaker 3: and then the middle countries like middle I don't want
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Speaker 3: to be disrespectful, like Columbia, Uruguay. You always expect them
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Speaker 3: to qualify as well, but a little bit behind the
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Speaker 3: heavyweights of brazila Argentine, and then it's like the six
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Speaker 3: nations after that are always jostling. Though Chile and Peru
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Speaker 3: are in a bad spot. To your point, these are
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Speaker 3: gonna be two countries very hungry to start the news
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Speaker 3: cycle on the right foot. Everything that we're talking about
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Speaker 3: here for the importance of this window building blocks foundations
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Speaker 3: continuation for these two countries, it's a fresh start, it's
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Speaker 3: a clean slate. It's something that they've been waiting for
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Speaker 3: since mathematically they were eliminated from qualification and on for
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Speaker 3: the Federation side, I don't know who else that they
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Speaker 3: tried to play, but it's not as if they're scheduling
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Speaker 3: the Cayman Islands at Angola or Laos or what some
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Speaker 3: of these other small, small countries like I know that
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Speaker 3: they do want to schedule big opponents as much as
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Speaker 3: they can. And while Peru and Chile finished bottom of
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Speaker 3: of World Cup qualifying, like the US should be favored
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Speaker 3: in these games. They're friendlies, right who cares? And there
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Speaker 3: will be a lot of change. Who knows what the
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Speaker 3: roster and everything's gonna look like. But it's not as
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Speaker 3: if this is a rollover window. And then when you
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Speaker 3: look forward at Mexico and Canada, anytime you buy Mexico,
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Speaker 3: I hope that that's one of the games that we
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Speaker 3: see a strong group and probably the same with Canada,
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Speaker 3: even before you dive into to those opponents.
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Speaker 2: I was excited about the longer window.
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Speaker 3: Because it gives the group more time to be together,
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Speaker 3: and hopefully it does cut down on travel for these players.
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Speaker 3: Instead of having to make two trips to wherever they're going,
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Speaker 3: they just come over once and then they move around
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Speaker 3: the country and go back. It is ten game, four
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Speaker 3: games in like ten days, so the fixture congestion is there.
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Speaker 3: There probably won't be a ton of time on the
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Speaker 3: training ground. If you're playing heavy minutes, it's gonna be
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Speaker 3: there has to be a ton of rotation. It'd be silly.
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Speaker 3: If anybody's starting four games, it'd be silly probably if
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Speaker 3: any player plays more than two hundred and ten minutes. Maybe,
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Speaker 3: if not one to eighty. But it's gonna be very
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Speaker 3: interesting to see how they approach this window, both in
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Speaker 3: terms of the roster and then in terms of training
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Speaker 3: and in terms of combedys who plays how many minutes?
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Speaker 3: Do you play forty five minutes three times or do
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Speaker 3: you play you know, seventy and seventy and then sit
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Speaker 3: both of the other games. I'm I'm curious to see
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Speaker 3: what that looks like.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, there's a lot of considerations there, and
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Speaker 1: I agree with all of that.
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Speaker 4: I think.
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Speaker 1: In addition, I think, you know, come all of the
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Speaker 1: conversations that you know, the head coach in this case,
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Speaker 1: Mariso Pochetino is having with the individual teams and what
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Speaker 1: they want out of their players, and you know, what
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Speaker 1: they expect sort of as far as minutes are concerned,
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Speaker 1: because let's not forget that for a lot of our players,
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Speaker 1: in particular, if they're there, let's let's say the core
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Speaker 1: first team players that come in, you know, they sort
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Speaker 1: of have a spot on the national team and and
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Speaker 1: their their main concern is to keep their spot on
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Speaker 1: their club right and to be competitive when they're there.
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Speaker 1: So so yeah, so it's interesting to see how limited
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Speaker 1: that's going to be. But moving into you know, the
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Speaker 1: Mexico and Canada game also interesting games, right because Marcus
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Speaker 1: is now the full time head coach in Mexico.
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Speaker 4: You know, Rafa has been in quite a few fight
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Speaker 4: with the US.
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Speaker 1: On the field, and uh and and I you know,
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Speaker 1: and I like what Mexico is doing with Ralpha Marcus.
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Speaker 4: You know, they had him as assistant coach for a while.
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Speaker 4: You know, Ralpha Marcus was you.
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Speaker 1: Know, if you remember he was working at Barcelona with
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Speaker 1: Barcelona's B team for a while, so he kind of
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Speaker 1: knows the.
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Speaker 4: Barcelona system and I'm sort of interesting.
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Speaker 1: I'm interested to see if if if Ralph and Marcus
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Speaker 1: wants to implement some sort of playing style that's a
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Speaker 1: little bit different than what they've been doing and so
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Speaker 1: and so that you know, besides your playing style, obviously,
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Speaker 1: this is you know, us Mexico. Regardless of when you're playing,
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Speaker 1: it is going to be a game that you have
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Speaker 1: to play to win. And uh, and we'll see what happens.
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Speaker 1: But I'm really interested to see this this Mexico team
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Speaker 1: as Ralpha Marcus completely takes over now.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: And and for those who don't know, so Rafa Marcus
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Speaker 3: was at Barcapi as he was starting with his manager career,
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Speaker 3: and then when Mexico had a vacancy, they approached him
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Speaker 3: as like, basically, we want you to be the future
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Speaker 3: head coach, but maybe we want a gyear A to
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Speaker 3: be the World Cup head coach, so join as an
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Speaker 3: assistant guaranteed after the World Cup you take over as
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Speaker 3: head coach. When that was announced, I thought it was silly.
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Speaker 3: I thought that it would be easy to be undermined.
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Speaker 2: I was wrong.
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Speaker 3: It worked out really well at gi A, I thought,
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Speaker 3: at a good World Cup as the manager. And now
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Speaker 3: Ralpha Marquez, after having that experience, we'll see what he's
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Speaker 3: like as his own man, as his own person leading
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Speaker 3: this team. As you say, well, this plane style change,
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Speaker 3: will some of the players be a little bit different.
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Speaker 3: There's a lot of questions there, and I gotta tell you,
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Speaker 3: I thought that was more likely to be a train
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Speaker 3: wreck than a success.
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Speaker 2: But it was a success.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, it really was.
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Speaker 1: Because it's not it's not easy for such a big
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Speaker 1: time player, because it's not forget you know, if you're
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Speaker 1: if you're gonna name you know, the top ten players
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Speaker 1: maybe ever in the history of Conca Calf, Ralpha Marcu
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Speaker 1: is probably up there, you know. So this is this
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Speaker 1: is one of the old time greats, not just for
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Speaker 1: Mexico but in Conca Calf. And for him to take
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Speaker 1: that secondary role as assistant and sort of be the
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Speaker 1: you know, the quiet one on the side. You know,
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Speaker 1: he's taking that role really well and I'd like to
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Speaker 1: see that.
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Speaker 4: I'm really anxious to see that.
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Speaker 1: And then we have obviously Canada and our friend Jesse
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Speaker 1: Marsh You know, let's say, come into town, although Minnesota
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Speaker 1: is pretty far from where we are, but they are
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Speaker 1: coming to town, and it should be really interested because
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Speaker 1: of course Jesse's not going to want to lose to
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Speaker 1: the US and US not going to want to lose
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Speaker 1: to Jesse, and that that's just is what it is.
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Speaker 1: So I like how this window is set up. You know,
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Speaker 1: you have two strong teams. At first, we'll see what
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Speaker 1: we look like, and then and then you have two
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Speaker 1: games that really, more than anything, our fans want to
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Speaker 1: win those two games, and I think it's important for
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Speaker 1: our fans and and hopefully we approach them in that manner.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it'll be it'll be an interesting window for sure.
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Speaker 3: As we get closer and closer, we'll discuss what it
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Speaker 3: might look like and break down the teams a little
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Speaker 3: bit more. But we've got plenty of time for that.
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Speaker 3: And in our next segment we're really going to dive
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Speaker 3: into some young players on what the roster might be.
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Speaker 3: So let's put a pin in that for now, or
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Speaker 3: continue on with some of the news. US Soccer joined
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Speaker 3: in ry releasing a statement on calling for meaningful change
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Speaker 3: in FIFA governance to have This has been a dominant
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Speaker 3: story over the last couple of weeks.
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Speaker 2: Spoke about it on the last week's show.
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Speaker 3: Giohnny and Fantino scraped his plan to try to sell
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Speaker 3: off some of the World Cup to private equity. He's
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Speaker 3: backtracking and looking for support throughout the world. There's possibilities
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Speaker 3: that he won't remain the FIFA president, which a month
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Speaker 3: ago was unfathomable. He was going to run unopposed. He
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Speaker 3: had i think official support for more than two hundred
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Speaker 3: of the federations, and then UEFA and and Conkakaff and
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Speaker 3: AFC put out statements really disagreeing with both the process
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Speaker 3: and the content of the plan to sell off some
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Speaker 3: of the games, some of the World Cup to private
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Speaker 3: equity and the assets therein and Infantino has been looking
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Speaker 3: for to remain in charge. US Soccer is not giving
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Speaker 3: him it. Mexico might be. Argentina has one of the
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Speaker 3: few countries that came out in support of Johnny and Fantino.
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Speaker 3: So tabill. This will keep moving, this will keep changing.
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Speaker 3: There will be statements, there will be reports, there will
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Speaker 3: be questions of integrity and hopes that either he's remaining
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Speaker 3: in charge or removed from in charge, depending on which
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Speaker 3: federation you're at. But I don't think that we're gonna
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Speaker 3: know too much until maybe March. I forget exactly when
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Speaker 3: the elections are supposed to be, but I know one
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Speaker 3: thing pretty sure.
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Speaker 2: I don't think Johnny and Fantino is gonna resign himself.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, it doesn't sound like it. I really don't know
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Speaker 4: the ins and outs of FIFA.
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Speaker 1: Obviously, this was one of those things where you know,
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Speaker 1: the game's been owned by no one over the last
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Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty years, and it seems like in
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Speaker 1: this case, Infantino just said, hey, guys, by the way,
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Speaker 1: I'm selling twenty percent of the game.
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Speaker 4: What's for dinner? Anything else going on?
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Speaker 1: And I think you a if I just said, well,
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Speaker 1: what did you say something before dinner? Was that I
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Speaker 1: thought we heard something? No, But you know, I don't
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Speaker 1: want to make fun of it. I mean, this is
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Speaker 1: serious stuff. Hopefully the game will continue to belong to
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Speaker 1: the fans, and really not much more to say.
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Speaker 4: It's unfortunate that you know that we've had to go
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Speaker 4: through this.
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Speaker 3: I would agree, and there will be plenty more to
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Speaker 3: unpacked as that story develops. And I'm probably not smart
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Speaker 3: enough to forecast, so we'll see what happens elsewhere. For
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Speaker 3: US soccer, it was U twenty World Cup qualification success,
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Speaker 3: but the U twenties lost in the CONCACAFT final to Mexico.
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Speaker 3: It was not a first choice roster, this tournament happening
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Speaker 3: in August when teams don't have any obligation to release
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Speaker 3: their players. There was a very dubious red guard to
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Speaker 3: Chris apple White in this game and went to var
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Speaker 3: I don't know if I saw much contact tab, but
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Speaker 3: the US ends up losing to Mexico in the CONCAFT
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Speaker 3: YOU twenty tournament that serves as World Cup qualification. The
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Speaker 3: most important thing was qualifying for the World Cup, the
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Speaker 3: U twenty World Cup, which they did.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: I mean there there's not many things that I know
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Speaker 1: a lot about, but I do know a lot about
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Speaker 1: you know, you twenty qualifying and and being in the
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Speaker 1: CONCACAFF tournament. I you know, I think I saw a bunch.
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Speaker 1: I saw a bunch of the games. Most of the
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Speaker 1: games that they played, the team did quite well. Actually
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Speaker 1: they played well. You know, we have to remember this
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Speaker 1: is this is by far not our first team, and
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Speaker 1: it always happens with you twenty teams, you never get
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Speaker 1: the roster you want. You never get the top four
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Speaker 1: or five players. But I think in this case we're
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Speaker 1: probably missing a lot more. In general, the team did
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Speaker 1: a pretty good job with the team, you know, the
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Speaker 1: coach did a pretty good job with the team he had,
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Speaker 1: and going to the final in the as deca, you know,
16:39
Speaker 1: it's also not surprising that, you know, you get a
16:42
Speaker 1: red card that maybe you shouldn't have got.
16:44
Speaker 4: So overall, I think good performance. We're going to the
16:47
Speaker 4: World Cup.
16:48
Speaker 1: But but I will say that I'd like to see
16:50
Speaker 1: for us to really put our heads together in terms
16:54
Speaker 1: of seeing if we can send our best players to.
16:57
Speaker 4: A U twenty World Cup at one point, you know, once.
17:00
Speaker 1: Because we've been close before, you know, the cycles out
17:04
Speaker 1: was there two or three times we thought we had
17:07
Speaker 1: enough to potentially even win it. The cycle after I'd left,
17:11
Speaker 1: I think it was a mikey Varas first cycle where
17:14
Speaker 1: I think he was very close also to winning it.
17:17
Speaker 1: And you know, I'd like to see if one of
17:20
Speaker 1: these times we could just send all of our best
17:22
Speaker 1: players and see if we can win one of these.
17:24
Speaker 1: You know, I think it would be great for our program.
17:27
Speaker 3: I agree, I totally understand why there isn't a push
17:31
Speaker 3: for the first choice or as many players as possible
17:34
Speaker 3: at this tournament is a tournament they should qualify for,
17:37
Speaker 3: and it's important for the players and important for the
17:39
Speaker 3: federation of the code. But like coming first or second
17:42
Speaker 3: in this it's I don't want to say inconsequential, but
17:46
Speaker 3: it's not something that matters as much, tap to your
17:48
Speaker 3: point as going a little bit further to you twenty
17:50
Speaker 3: World Cup. So hopefully when that time comes again, we'll
17:54
Speaker 3: have the same argument for nude clubs are the ones
17:56
Speaker 3: that you have to fight with, and even if the
17:58
Speaker 3: players express their wishes to join the national team, club
18:01
Speaker 3: just still under no obligation to send them. So hopefully
18:04
Speaker 3: we'll see a good team come you twenty World Cup time.
18:07
Speaker 3: What more on the latest news, The American boys at
18:11
Speaker 3: Middlesborough are often a good start. Sabasine Burrolter got an
18:14
Speaker 3: assist in his debut and Max Orfison played as well.
18:18
Speaker 3: These three boys, including Aiden Morris, are living together at
18:21
Speaker 3: Aiden Morris's house, which I think is very interesting. I
18:23
Speaker 3: didn't think of logistics of both Sebastian Buralter and Max
18:26
Speaker 3: Arson arrived within the last week or two and instead
18:30
Speaker 3: of living at a hotel, they get to live with
18:31
Speaker 3: with their pal aiden.
18:32
Speaker 2: So I think that's pretty fun.
18:33
Speaker 4: Tip. Yeah, there's probably a lot of gaming going on
18:37
Speaker 4: over there for sure, But now I'm happy for those guys.
18:41
Speaker 4: Obviously we talked about this.
18:43
Speaker 1: I think enough, you know, there's a great situation for
18:45
Speaker 1: all of them, and I hope to do well. And
18:48
Speaker 1: how great would it be if these three guys can
18:50
Speaker 1: lead the team to the EPL, you know, after this year,
18:53
Speaker 1: So we'd be looking closely into that week to week.
18:56
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're very excited to watch some middles Brough. But
18:59
Speaker 3: it's time for a quick break and we're going to
19:00
Speaker 3: get into the meat of the episode. We're going to
19:02
Speaker 3: look at five players we want to talk about as
19:05
Speaker 3: potential call up to the fall roster for the United States,
19:09
Speaker 3: some of the five most promising young players in the pool.
19:12
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19:15
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19:27
Speaker 3: Welcome back to Inside American Soccer. As the US plans
19:31
Speaker 3: and blots their first camp after the World Cup, this
19:34
Speaker 3: is always a time where you try to bring in
19:36
Speaker 3: new blood and some of the younger players get put
19:38
Speaker 3: into the team or at least a pathway towards the
19:41
Speaker 3: senior national team. US has plenty of really talented young
19:45
Speaker 3: players who have not been capped yet, and we want
19:47
Speaker 3: to talk about five who we might see this fall
19:49
Speaker 3: or within the next calendar year. I think for sure
19:51
Speaker 3: on all of these guys, so tap even first things first,
19:55
Speaker 3: when you're looking at the makeup of this fall roster,
20:00
Speaker 3: I know a lot of it like and we're going
20:01
Speaker 3: to do it too, not holier than now. A lot
20:03
Speaker 3: of us are going to get excited about talking about
20:06
Speaker 3: a bunch of young players, a bunch of new players,
20:08
Speaker 3: or maybe some guys who weren't with the World Cup roster.
20:11
Speaker 3: But the reality is there's probably gonna be a pretty
20:14
Speaker 3: big overlap from this summer's roster to this falls first one.
20:19
Speaker 1: Without a doubt, and I think, you know, we have
20:22
Speaker 1: to be careful when we start throwing names out there,
20:24
Speaker 1: because you know, at the end of the day, you
20:26
Speaker 1: got to throw out names of young players who deserve
20:30
Speaker 1: to go, not just because they've you know, they've done
20:32
Speaker 1: something in the past. I mean, you know, we're at
20:34
Speaker 1: a point now, as you just briefly mentioned, you know,
20:37
Speaker 1: we we have a bunch of young players who are
20:39
Speaker 1: actually playing significant minutes, and I think, and I think
20:43
Speaker 1: maybe those are the ones who are ready to get
20:45
Speaker 1: some consideration to get some minutes right, because of course
20:49
Speaker 1: we can talk about guys who you know, potentially have
20:53
Speaker 1: the ability down the road or can project to be
20:56
Speaker 1: down the road be players, but I don't think is
21:01
Speaker 1: you know, I also don't think it's a time to
21:04
Speaker 1: just give opportunities to the national teams to players just
21:07
Speaker 1: because they've been on our youth national teams before. So
21:11
Speaker 1: I think sort of the list that we have here,
21:13
Speaker 1: and I'll probably add one or two to that list
21:16
Speaker 1: really quick, but I would say it has to be
21:19
Speaker 1: players that are contributing now, because you know, you go
21:22
Speaker 1: into the senior national team, you at the very least
21:24
Speaker 1: have to be contributing to your own team wherever you are,
21:29
Speaker 1: So I'll start with that.
21:32
Speaker 3: I completely agree, And I think we've gotten caught at
21:36
Speaker 3: as like a fan base in this in the past,
21:38
Speaker 3: particularly and this is a totally fair reaction, but particularly
21:41
Speaker 3: after failing to qualify for the twenty eighteen World Cup,
21:44
Speaker 3: you soothe yourself by projecting forward of a lot of
21:47
Speaker 3: the players to have that you had with the you twenties,
21:49
Speaker 3: or you know, even kids in the youth seventeens, kids
21:51
Speaker 3: that you know, maybe didn't make their first team debuts.
21:54
Speaker 3: You start watching, you know, the youth Bundesliga league, and
21:58
Speaker 3: you're looking at players and just hoping for the future.
21:59
Speaker 3: Because it was such a shock to miss the World Cup.
22:02
Speaker 3: This is a much different time for the national team
22:05
Speaker 3: coming off a solid, fine World Cup campaign. There are
22:08
Speaker 3: a lot of players that are in their prime or
22:10
Speaker 3: will remain in their prime for the next World Cup.
22:13
Speaker 3: So it'd be silly to throw all the players out
22:15
Speaker 3: and just hope springs anew with academy players. But to
22:19
Speaker 3: your point, I think that there are I think the
22:21
Speaker 3: five that I want to talk about most. I think
22:24
Speaker 3: one I know all of these players are contributing to
22:27
Speaker 3: real first team soccer, showing signs of development and signs
22:31
Speaker 3: of productivity. Like, yes, all five of these players are
22:34
Speaker 3: going to have big potentials. They are not done growing
22:37
Speaker 3: in any way, and we all hope that it's going
22:39
Speaker 3: to good to the height of the game. But they
22:42
Speaker 3: are also not just theoretical players. No surprise, we're going
22:47
Speaker 3: to talk about Cavin Sulivan at some point. But a
22:49
Speaker 3: year ago when people were hoping maybe that he'd be
22:53
Speaker 3: with the first team, shoot even four months ago, I
22:56
Speaker 3: thought that he should have been getting more playing time
22:58
Speaker 3: with Philly, but he wasn't, and it was like, okay,
23:00
Speaker 3: maybe one day and we'll talk about him in a bit.
23:03
Speaker 3: But these are all players that are contributing to first
23:06
Speaker 3: team soccer tab So let's start with the one that
23:09
Speaker 3: I think should absolutely be on this roster. Because we're
23:12
Speaker 3: talking about guys that maybe they will, maybe they won't.
23:14
Speaker 3: I'm gonna start with Xavier Gozo. I think he should
23:17
Speaker 3: be on this fall roster. I think he's earned it.
23:19
Speaker 3: First things first, the news. I broke the news this
23:22
Speaker 3: week that he is in London to finalize his transfer
23:25
Speaker 3: to Crystal Palace. By the time you listen to this,
23:27
Speaker 3: it may have gone official. Xavier Gozo is joining in
23:31
Speaker 3: a deal worth around fifteen million dollars from Rayale Salt Lake.
23:34
Speaker 3: He'll join up with his new teammates for preseason maybe
23:37
Speaker 3: by wednesday, if not very very shortly thereafter. Crystal Palace
23:41
Speaker 3: beat out the likes of Atletico Madrid. So its just
23:43
Speaker 3: told me that up until he basically flew to England.
23:47
Speaker 3: Atletico Madrid were hoping the hijacket, hoping to convince him
23:49
Speaker 3: to come to Spain, but he had made up his mind.
23:51
Speaker 3: He wanted to go to Crystal Palace and for me,
23:53
Speaker 3: tab one thing that I like about this move is
23:56
Speaker 3: Chelsea are signing a lot of Americans and that's a
23:59
Speaker 3: huge priscie he just clubbed to go to. It's good
24:01
Speaker 3: money for everybody involved and you're dreaming of the heights
24:05
Speaker 3: of world soccer. One thing I like with Crystal Palace
24:09
Speaker 3: is there's no guarantee that every signing is gonna work right.
24:12
Speaker 3: But Crystal Palace don't sign ten U twenty one players
24:16
Speaker 3: to put in their second team and hope, not hope,
24:19
Speaker 3: but like, if three of those ten work out for Chelsea,
24:22
Speaker 3: it's return on investment, it's job well done. It's really
24:25
Speaker 3: hard to break into Chelsea. It's hard to break into
24:27
Speaker 3: Crystal Palace.
24:28
Speaker 2: Two.
24:28
Speaker 3: But they're not gonna sign ten Zavier Gozos. They're gonna
24:31
Speaker 3: sign one or two and so Xavier Gozo his personal development.
24:36
Speaker 3: Crystal Palace have more of a vested interest because they
24:39
Speaker 3: don't have Okay, if you don't work out, we've got
24:40
Speaker 3: three more common, and I think that's part of this
24:43
Speaker 3: move that I really liked.
24:44
Speaker 1: Tep Yeah, I'll start with the end of that, because
24:49
Speaker 1: you know, when we look at, you know, the World
24:53
Speaker 1: Cup that we just had this summer, there were very
24:56
Speaker 1: few clubs that had more players at the World Cup
24:59
Speaker 1: than Palace. They had a lot of players at the
25:02
Speaker 1: World Cup, which means the only reason I'm saying that,
25:04
Speaker 1: and maybe they didn't have the best players in the world,
25:07
Speaker 1: but the only reason I'm saying that is because they
25:10
Speaker 1: don't miss much when they get somebody, and I think,
25:14
Speaker 1: you know, the fact that they've gone after some of
25:15
Speaker 1: your Goozo says a lot, right because although obviously Crystal
25:19
Speaker 1: Palace had was one of the clubs that had, you know,
25:22
Speaker 1: was was towards the top, let's say, in terms of
25:25
Speaker 1: most players at the World Cup, I don't think they
25:27
Speaker 1: were counting Essay who went to Arsenal.
25:29
Speaker 4: I don't think they were Olese who said Barron Munich.
25:32
Speaker 4: They weren't counting players already.
25:34
Speaker 1: So so I think this is you know, this says
25:37
Speaker 1: a lot that Crystal Palace goes after him and that
25:39
Speaker 1: he wants them, because I think likely they're going to
25:41
Speaker 1: bring them to their team and they're gonna they're gonna
25:43
Speaker 1: want them to play because they believe in them. And
25:45
Speaker 1: so this is this is a great sign. And uh,
25:48
Speaker 1: you know, I totally agree with maybe. You know, now,
25:51
Speaker 1: let's look at the you know, the call into the
25:53
Speaker 1: national team. You know, there were there were many people
25:56
Speaker 1: who believe he should have gotten called to the World Cup.
25:59
Speaker 1: You know, that's how well he was playing leading into it.
26:01
Speaker 1: I'm not sure whether you should have gone or not,
26:04
Speaker 1: but it was that close. And I think because of it,
26:06
Speaker 1: I think this would be the right time maybe to
26:09
Speaker 1: start bringing him in the team and maybe getting a
26:12
Speaker 1: few minutes to show what he can do with you know,
26:15
Speaker 1: with the rest of the best players that we have.
26:17
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's so like he came close to making
26:20
Speaker 3: the World Cup robs, or at least he was. He
26:22
Speaker 3: was seriously on the periphery of the bubble. So this
26:25
Speaker 3: is the most obvious guy that should be in camp
26:28
Speaker 3: in the fall. This is the first person you think
26:30
Speaker 3: of when when you're thinking of evolving the roster and
26:32
Speaker 3: looking forward to the next cycle. He had six goals
26:34
Speaker 3: and five assists in sixteen games for we Also Lake
26:36
Speaker 3: this year. He was playing in this like hybrid wingback role,
26:39
Speaker 3: which was basically an attacking role.
26:42
Speaker 2: But he was just the widest player on the right.
26:44
Speaker 3: Pablo Master and he has head coach had had a
26:46
Speaker 3: really good interview recently where he was asked about Gozo
26:49
Speaker 3: and he said, I learned how I had to coach
26:51
Speaker 3: him differently because I talked to our players about decision
26:56
Speaker 3: making in the final third, and I got to tell you,
26:58
Speaker 3: for most players, trying to take on two defenders and
27:02
Speaker 3: dribbling them and splitting them and then shooting, that's a
27:04
Speaker 3: bad decision. He goes, well, I see Zavier do it
27:07
Speaker 3: on the training fit, I see him do it in games.
27:09
Speaker 2: I see him try.
27:10
Speaker 3: So you know, I learned I had to coach him
27:13
Speaker 3: differently because yeah, for me, that'd be a bad decision,
27:16
Speaker 3: but for Xavier Gozo, that'd probably be a good decision.
27:18
Speaker 3: So I needed to rethink the way that we played.
27:20
Speaker 3: And thought that was a really fun answer. And and
27:22
Speaker 3: that kind of ability to tab that that lends itself
27:26
Speaker 3: to debuts, whether it's at Crystal Palace, off the bench
27:29
Speaker 3: for ten minutes, whether it's with the senior national team
27:31
Speaker 3: off the bench, because it's not like a center back
27:33
Speaker 3: we're in competitive games. You don't get subbed in as
27:35
Speaker 3: a seventeen year old for ten or fifteen minutes to
27:37
Speaker 3: like get get your feet wet. Like maybe defensive mid
27:39
Speaker 3: is the same thing, but for young wingers with like
27:42
Speaker 3: an individualistic and really physical skill set, it's easy. It's
27:46
Speaker 3: easier to be like, hey, here's ten minutes, give get
27:49
Speaker 3: your legs going, like in maybe a lower risk scenario.
27:53
Speaker 2: So Xavier goes. I think he's ready.
27:55
Speaker 3: Everything he showed for real, soo like literally the only
27:58
Speaker 3: argument against this is if Crystal Palace says, hey, we'd
28:01
Speaker 3: rather him stay here during the break, continue to familiarize
28:04
Speaker 3: himself with the team, train with the guys who aren't
28:06
Speaker 3: on international duty. But like he's he's joining right now.
28:10
Speaker 3: It's August eleventh, as we record, he'll have more than
28:13
Speaker 3: a month with this. See, I think he'll be settled
28:15
Speaker 3: in or at least he won't have just have unpacked
28:18
Speaker 3: his bags.
28:19
Speaker 2: So I really think he should be on this roster
28:21
Speaker 2: in the fall town.
28:22
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's likely that will happen, And I think that's
28:25
Speaker 1: well framed when you say, you know, it's different for
28:27
Speaker 1: an attacking player in particular, one as creative as he is,
28:30
Speaker 1: because Marico Bochettino could say, hey, here's ten minutes, just
28:34
Speaker 1: go make plays, and you know he can come in
28:36
Speaker 1: and make plays, you know, and you don't you know,
28:38
Speaker 1: as you mentioned, Pablo said that, you know, he had
28:40
Speaker 1: to coach him different. Not a whole lot of coaching
28:43
Speaker 1: for a player like this, you know, because because you've
28:46
Speaker 1: heard me say this before, but attacking creative players don't
28:49
Speaker 1: know what they're going to do next. So since they
28:52
Speaker 1: don't know, no one knows, and that's the fun. That's
28:55
Speaker 1: the fun part of it. And I think he's one
28:57
Speaker 1: of those players where we're all, you know, when he
29:00
Speaker 1: has the ball and you know, right outside the box,
29:02
Speaker 1: we're all, we don't know what to expect.
29:04
Speaker 4: And I think that's a good sign.
29:06
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that is a sign of good coaching.
29:08
Speaker 3: But like, while Pablo's really good at telling stories, he's
29:10
Speaker 3: super personable, he's not giving himself a ton of credit
29:13
Speaker 3: because he was trying to make fun of himself in
29:15
Speaker 3: that centari Like it's good coaching to not overcach and
29:18
Speaker 3: like try to drill into him like, no, this is
29:21
Speaker 3: our attacking sequences. You have to do it like this,
29:23
Speaker 3: because don't take the creativity away from the player, don't make.
29:25
Speaker 2: Him a robot.
29:25
Speaker 3: So I like that he's perfect for the wing back
29:28
Speaker 3: role for the national team Palace. What I've heard is
29:32
Speaker 3: that when they're not planning on Lonium and two, they
29:35
Speaker 3: like him for like because they play three at the
29:37
Speaker 3: back as well, So I figured that they would like
29:38
Speaker 3: him for a wing back. But in reporting out this move,
29:41
Speaker 3: I think that he's gonna play as one of the
29:42
Speaker 3: like inside tens or one of the attacking spots.
29:45
Speaker 2: He can play both.
29:45
Speaker 3: Maybe he will play both, but before he has his
29:48
Speaker 3: first training session, that was what I was told kind
29:50
Speaker 3: of where they see him more than wingback. So same
29:52
Speaker 3: thing for the national team. I think he could play
29:54
Speaker 3: both and that helps too with the squad second player
29:57
Speaker 3: already tease him a little bit. Cavin Sullivan, the sixteen
30:00
Speaker 3: year old Philadelphia Union phenom, has started each of his
30:03
Speaker 3: last five games for his club since Ryan Richter took
30:06
Speaker 3: over his introim head coach. Ryan Richter was the second
30:08
Speaker 3: team head coach when Cavin Sulivan had excelled and thrived well.
30:12
Speaker 3: They have four wins in those five games. They had
30:15
Speaker 3: one win in MLS play in their first fifteen games
30:17
Speaker 3: this season, so vibes are a little bit better, and
30:20
Speaker 3: Cavin Sulivan is a big part of that. Tab He
30:22
Speaker 3: had a goal to assist against the Coxa. For me,
30:24
Speaker 3: it was easily his best games as a first team player.
30:27
Speaker 3: What I really like over this run is he takes
30:30
Speaker 3: the weight of responsibility of if we're gonna create something,
30:33
Speaker 3: I'm gonna do it, and not in like an arrogant way,
30:36
Speaker 3: not in a ball hogey type of way, not in
30:38
Speaker 3: a entitled way, but in a like I want to
30:40
Speaker 3: take on the responsibility for the team way. He's also
30:43
Speaker 3: doing a lot defensively, or maybe we're grading on a
30:46
Speaker 3: curve here, just because he's a number ten who has
30:49
Speaker 3: been a phenom forever, and he's working like hell. He's
30:53
Speaker 3: getting into duels, he's trying to disrupt play, he's trying
30:55
Speaker 3: to press, and you have to if you play for Phil,
30:57
Speaker 3: you have to try to press. But this isn't like
31:00
Speaker 3: an entitled kid who's walking in the first team being
31:02
Speaker 3: like I'm going to Manchester City in two years, give
31:04
Speaker 3: me the ball and get out of my way. Like
31:05
Speaker 3: he's working like hell. He's competitive as hell, and I've
31:08
Speaker 3: just been super impressed. I think that he's taken a
31:11
Speaker 3: meaningful step up in his game over the last two months.
31:14
Speaker 4: Without a doubt.
31:15
Speaker 1: You know, if you would if you would have called
31:17
Speaker 1: him phenom on this show five months ago, I would
31:21
Speaker 1: have said, I would have said, Okay, Tom, let's relax here,
31:24
Speaker 1: let's take a step back. No seriously, not because he wasn't,
31:28
Speaker 1: but only because we're so ready to call to give
31:32
Speaker 1: all these kids like names. They're gonna be this is
31:35
Speaker 1: gonna be the next great whatever. And I think we
31:38
Speaker 1: just get going too fast. But you know, now it
31:41
Speaker 1: fits into what you're saying. I'm really impressed Tom. I think,
31:44
Speaker 1: you know, the beginning of the season, I think he
31:47
Speaker 1: started to learn the ropes this year.
31:50
Speaker 4: I think the World Cup break was a great break for.
31:53
Speaker 1: Him because he now got to step back and kind
31:55
Speaker 1: of see what happened and maybe have a different approach
31:58
Speaker 1: after the break, and I think now he's a player
32:02
Speaker 1: at a different level.
32:03
Speaker 4: I really like what he's doing. I agree with all
32:06
Speaker 4: the things he's saying.
32:07
Speaker 1: I like the fact that he finds sometimes he finds
32:10
Speaker 1: the past that I don't know how he sees it right,
32:14
Speaker 1: Extremely creative, very much like very competitive. You know, I
32:20
Speaker 1: just think that this player is is ready to get
32:23
Speaker 1: them minutes. I I totally agree with you know, if
32:27
Speaker 1: we're gonna pick a couple of players that are gonna
32:29
Speaker 1: make the next roster, you know, Kevin Sullivan is really
32:32
Speaker 1: in this stra directory.
32:34
Speaker 4: He's straightforward.
32:35
Speaker 1: I mean, he's he's His improvement in particular over the
32:39
Speaker 1: last month and a half has been incredible and I
32:42
Speaker 1: and I'm really happy to see that. Because, by the way,
32:45
Speaker 1: maybe I'm too slow to see it, of course, because
32:48
Speaker 1: mann City already knew this a couple of years ago, right,
32:51
Speaker 1: so I'm just starting to see it. But what's happened
32:54
Speaker 1: over the last month and a half is truly I
32:56
Speaker 1: believe the reason why man City jumped on board early
33:00
Speaker 1: because they.
33:00
Speaker 4: Saw it obviously before I saw it, of course. And
33:04
Speaker 4: and this is the player.
33:06
Speaker 1: If he continues in this direction, I think he's gonna
33:09
Speaker 1: be one of the best players in the league this year.
33:11
Speaker 4: Yeah.
33:12
Speaker 3: And to your point, like it is fair to push
33:14
Speaker 3: back of like like let him earn it in the
33:16
Speaker 3: in the first team, right, like, not not trying to
33:19
Speaker 3: criticize him or or slow the train down, but just hey,
33:22
Speaker 3: like let's not put the car before the horse, like
33:25
Speaker 3: he will earn his minutes and he will play well,
33:27
Speaker 3: like let's talk about it then, and not, you know,
33:29
Speaker 3: heap too much pressure. So as why you joke that,
33:32
Speaker 3: I know that you've seen you know his potential as
33:34
Speaker 3: talent too, but this is the most productive he's been
33:37
Speaker 3: with the first team, and even the games where he's
33:40
Speaker 3: not like box score numbers of a goal and assists like,
33:43
Speaker 3: he impacts positive attacking soccer and like positive winning play.
33:48
Speaker 3: And so one of the things that I liked about
33:50
Speaker 3: him and Tabby you know, infinitely more about talent identification, projecting,
33:56
Speaker 3: potential all that, But for my limited bits of going
33:59
Speaker 3: to the j Cup and watching that, particularly the Phildelph
34:01
Speaker 3: Union team when he was there, what I liked a
34:04
Speaker 3: lot about him was he was super vertical, Like you
34:09
Speaker 3: know that if he wanted to take twelve touches sideways
34:12
Speaker 3: beat the same player three times, he could the best
34:13
Speaker 3: player on the field, even when he was fourteen playing
34:15
Speaker 3: against seventeen year olds, obviously, but he always seemed to
34:18
Speaker 3: have a purpose even when he would do tricks and
34:20
Speaker 3: maybe a couple of the unnecessary flicks that every kid
34:23
Speaker 3: does that might get ironed out of your game when
34:25
Speaker 3: you get older. It was all with a purpose, or
34:27
Speaker 3: mostly with the purpose, which at the end, at that
34:30
Speaker 3: age he could have done rainbow flicks all across the
34:32
Speaker 3: field and still ended up with two goals and two assists.
34:35
Speaker 3: But it was a good sign of his mentality that
34:37
Speaker 3: we're seeing in the first team now even more sharp
34:39
Speaker 3: of get the ball, win it, go forward and pass,
34:43
Speaker 3: move and go forward, like everything seems to have a purpose,
34:45
Speaker 3: which sometimes with really technical young players and like ones
34:49
Speaker 3: who have the best dubling ability, sometimes they need to
34:51
Speaker 3: be taught like, hey, you don't need to beat somebody twice,
34:54
Speaker 3: you don't need to be over elaborate. You can do
34:55
Speaker 3: a step and go forward. And I think Kevin already
34:58
Speaker 3: has that. And that's sixteen years old. For somebody who
34:59
Speaker 3: loves tricks as much as he does, I think that's
35:01
Speaker 3: super super positive.
35:03
Speaker 1: Yeah. I didn't know how how obviously his talent, like
35:06
Speaker 1: you said, his talent, anybody could see it, right, I
35:09
Speaker 1: just you. Sometimes when you look at young players, you
35:12
Speaker 1: you try to project how maybe their personality is going
35:16
Speaker 1: to fit into into the league and into playing with
35:19
Speaker 1: the big boys, and into getting pushed around and into
35:22
Speaker 1: not starting every game and into all of those things.
35:25
Speaker 1: But now that I see that competitiveness coming out of
35:28
Speaker 1: him with all of the talent that he has, you know,
35:31
Speaker 1: this is this is the part that that with young
35:34
Speaker 1: players sometimes they you know, the breaks get put on
35:37
Speaker 1: and I don't see the breaks. I see him. I
35:39
Speaker 1: see them going faster and faster. At this point, I think,
35:42
Speaker 1: not only is he doing well, but he's he's enjoying
35:45
Speaker 1: doing well. And every time I see him on the field,
35:47
Speaker 1: game after game, now I'm seeing that he's hungry to
35:51
Speaker 1: do more and uh and.
35:52
Speaker 4: That's just a great sign. So he's he's ready to.
35:55
Speaker 3: Go tom And if he's not with the senior national
35:58
Speaker 3: team this fall, that's okay. Like I think that there's
36:02
Speaker 3: a fine debate either way. He will make his debut
36:05
Speaker 3: I think at some point over the next twelve months,
36:07
Speaker 3: probably sooner. But if he's not with the senior team,
36:09
Speaker 3: there will be a U twenty three camp. So any
36:11
Speaker 3: of these that goes for Gozo thoughay, I think that
36:13
Speaker 3: he's further along.
36:15
Speaker 2: That goes for anybody.
36:16
Speaker 3: We're going to talk about here, is that if they're
36:18
Speaker 3: not with the senior team, there is the twenty three camp.
36:20
Speaker 3: There will be plenty of time to develop, but these
36:22
Speaker 3: are some of the guys that I think are closest
36:24
Speaker 3: to the Raidar with some of the brightest futures. Next up,
36:36
Speaker 3: Noahai Banks, nineteen year old center back for Augsburg Dual
36:39
Speaker 3: National in Germany. He was called into a senior camp
36:43
Speaker 3: last fall. He did not make his debut. Marisa Bulgettino
36:45
Speaker 3: at the time was talking about it, saying young players
36:48
Speaker 3: can develop and really accelerate, and if that happens for Noahai, like,
36:53
Speaker 3: we want to see him in camp. We want to
36:55
Speaker 3: see him interact with the group. We want to get
36:56
Speaker 3: to know him better.
36:57
Speaker 2: Like it was basically like, yeah.
36:59
Speaker 3: Maybe maybe he's not at the first team level or
37:04
Speaker 3: like starting level or whatever, but that could happen quicker
37:07
Speaker 3: than we realize, and we want to have an idea
37:10
Speaker 3: of what he's like as a person.
37:11
Speaker 2: No, Ky Banks didn't go to the World Cup.
37:14
Speaker 3: Still, I guess hasn't like officially chosen the United States
37:17
Speaker 3: as its future, but he's somebody that I feel pretty
37:20
Speaker 3: good about coming to the United States. It's a personal decision.
37:23
Speaker 3: Who knows what will end up deciding. But while we're
37:26
Speaker 3: talking about new players to come in that don't have
37:28
Speaker 3: any caps, no kup Banks has to be one of
37:30
Speaker 3: the first names.
37:33
Speaker 1: Well, you know, I think in this case, you know,
37:35
Speaker 1: there's a lot of people who feel like, well, you
37:37
Speaker 1: didn't want to come to the you know, you don't
37:39
Speaker 1: want to come to the team before, then don't.
37:40
Speaker 4: Ever come back kind of thing. You know. I just
37:43
Speaker 4: think you'll have to keep these relationships going.
37:46
Speaker 1: I think it's really important for him and without a
37:50
Speaker 1: full commitment, for him to still come to the team
37:52
Speaker 1: and for us to have him around. You know, it
37:54
Speaker 1: wasn't a whole lot different with Flo Ballaghan, you know,
37:57
Speaker 1: six or seven years ago. You know, he wasn't convinced
38:00
Speaker 1: that he wanted to play for the US. But for us,
38:03
Speaker 1: it was like, you know, just just come to this camp,
38:05
Speaker 1: you know, and just see how we work and just
38:07
Speaker 1: see what the players are like. And I think with
38:09
Speaker 1: Noah Kai Banks, maybe, you know, we have to take
38:12
Speaker 1: our time and we have to show him a little
38:14
Speaker 1: bit more of how it works here and what we do.
38:16
Speaker 1: And and of course somewhere down the road in Germany
38:19
Speaker 1: may call him and take them away and that that
38:22
Speaker 1: can happen. But at the end of the day, we're
38:24
Speaker 1: talking about a center back here, a center back that's
38:27
Speaker 1: just at the beginning of him, you know, and who
38:30
Speaker 1: already has Bundesliga experience. You know, he's just he's just
38:36
Speaker 1: a great prospect that I don't think we should we
38:38
Speaker 1: should lose and if we can bring them in, you know,
38:41
Speaker 1: to be around camp and you know, we have four
38:44
Speaker 1: games here. He would definitely get one of those and
38:47
Speaker 1: I think it would be a great idea and hopefully
38:49
Speaker 1: he can come in and we can see him.
38:51
Speaker 4: Yeah.
38:51
Speaker 3: He made twenty three appearances in the Bundesliga for Augsburg
38:54
Speaker 3: last season as they finished ninth. That's a very top
38:57
Speaker 3: achievement for a kid of his age at that position.
39:00
Speaker 3: We all know about his talent. It's just about whether
39:02
Speaker 3: he does come to the United States or not. So
39:04
Speaker 3: hopefully we'll see him in the fall because he's somebody
39:06
Speaker 3: I think like Gozo in that they've had plenty of
39:08
Speaker 3: t I'm in first teams that basically they both should
39:11
Speaker 3: be getting called and for no kai see if he
39:13
Speaker 3: accepts or not. Two more that I'm excited to talk
39:16
Speaker 3: about are both Red Bull New York players. Will start
39:19
Speaker 3: with the midfield or Audrey Mahmedi, the seventeen year old
39:21
Speaker 3: he basically plays.
39:22
Speaker 2: Every minute for the Red Bulls.
39:24
Speaker 3: He is top twenty in the league in total touches
39:26
Speaker 3: and passes and he's fourth in possession recovered. I these
39:33
Speaker 3: are all really good players, and I think all five
39:36
Speaker 3: are gonna make it to varying degrees. If you made
39:39
Speaker 3: me pick only one, I would pick Audrey Mametedi. I
39:42
Speaker 3: just feel so strongly about this kid's ability to make
39:45
Speaker 3: it at the next levels. And he's the best midfield talent,
39:50
Speaker 3: best talent coming out of the Red Bulls since Styler Adams,
39:53
Speaker 3: and there's a case of Amaye that he's one of
39:55
Speaker 3: the best talents coming out of any MLS academy over
39:57
Speaker 3: the last five or so years. Well done by Michael
40:00
Speaker 3: Bradley to give him a chance to play regularly. I
40:02
Speaker 3: thought for sure he was going to earn some minutes
40:04
Speaker 3: this year. But not only is he a starter, he
40:06
Speaker 3: has a folk room to the way that they play,
40:08
Speaker 3: and he's met the moment at every different level he's
40:11
Speaker 3: been at, and now in MLS is showing that he's
40:13
Speaker 3: probably not going to be an.
40:14
Speaker 2: MLS for too long because how good he is.
40:18
Speaker 4: I agree with that.
40:19
Speaker 1: I would compare them, you know, and actually I would
40:22
Speaker 1: compare them a lot to Bowati from Morocco sort of
40:26
Speaker 1: in the same frame. And I'm only saying for the people,
40:30
Speaker 1: you know, because in MLS, depending on where you live
40:33
Speaker 1: in the country. You know, if you live on the
40:35
Speaker 1: West Coast, it's hard to watch MLS East Coast, so
40:37
Speaker 1: you wouldn't get to watch the Red Bulls too much
40:39
Speaker 1: because that happens to us with the West Coast as well.
40:42
Speaker 1: But if you had a comparison, you know, Bowati was
40:45
Speaker 1: a player for Morocco this year. You know, eighteen year
40:47
Speaker 1: old that played for Morocco. That's one of the hottest
40:50
Speaker 1: players in.
40:50
Speaker 4: The world now right worth one hundred million.
40:53
Speaker 1: I would say this about Memeti is that they're similar
40:57
Speaker 1: in their style, right, the way they get the ball,
40:59
Speaker 1: the way they turned, the way they don't lose it.
41:02
Speaker 1: But he's really impressive tom. I would like to see
41:05
Speaker 1: him at a next level because of he has such
41:08
Speaker 1: great skill, such an easy way to receive the ball
41:11
Speaker 1: in pockets in the middle of the field and turn
41:15
Speaker 1: and see the field and be able to distribute with
41:18
Speaker 1: such ease that I think he will do better as
41:21
Speaker 1: the level gets higher. And so I do think that
41:27
Speaker 1: He's one of those players that you can stick into
41:29
Speaker 1: any game and he will make the game better. So
41:32
Speaker 1: I would love to see him get an opportunity to
41:34
Speaker 1: play for the national team.
41:36
Speaker 3: Yeah, and again, even if that's just the U twenty
41:39
Speaker 3: threes in the fall. I think for sure he's on
41:41
Speaker 3: his way to getting his senior cap. I think he's
41:45
Speaker 3: on his way to a move to Europe. I think
41:47
Speaker 3: he's somebody who, like we saw with Gozo, maybe in
41:51
Speaker 3: the past, he would think about stepping stone clubs air
41:53
Speaker 3: quote like right, like Fine Order or Club Bruce Rondo,
41:56
Speaker 3: like some some of these spots where young players might
41:58
Speaker 3: go first. Well, Gojo's play price those teams out, like
42:01
Speaker 3: those teams wanted go though they could not come close
42:04
Speaker 3: to the fee or probably the salary, definitely the salary,
42:07
Speaker 3: but it's more about the fee. In that same thing
42:09
Speaker 3: in Loudry Mahmedi man like that's got it, like Premier
42:12
Speaker 3: League clubs champion like those are the clubs are gonna
42:13
Speaker 3: be able to afford him because he is well and
42:15
Speaker 3: truly one of the best talents, not just in America
42:18
Speaker 3: but in the world in his position and his age group.
42:20
Speaker 2: So I think the world of this kid.
42:22
Speaker 3: I've made that known for a while and everything he's
42:25
Speaker 3: doing with the first team in MLS has been super impressive,
42:28
Speaker 3: as it has been for his teammate Julian Hall, center.
42:30
Speaker 2: Forward for Red Bull New York.
42:32
Speaker 3: He has twelve goals and four assists in about seventeen
42:34
Speaker 3: hundred minutes across all competitions this season. He hasn't scored
42:37
Speaker 3: since May. That's normal. He's eighteen years old. You're not
42:41
Speaker 3: gonna get a goal every ninety minutes. For a player
42:43
Speaker 3: like this, there's gonna be ups and downs. I still
42:45
Speaker 3: think he's played fine, played well for the Red Bulls,
42:48
Speaker 3: but he hasn't gotten his goals. The Red Bulls as
42:50
Speaker 3: a team have dropped over the last month or two
42:53
Speaker 3: before and after the World Cup break, and he's going
42:57
Speaker 3: to be fine. He's going to be at a big
42:58
Speaker 3: club or he's going to be in your up at
43:00
Speaker 3: some point in the Again, what it's six months, twelve months.
43:03
Speaker 3: There's a lot of teams. I really like him and
43:05
Speaker 3: he's shown it in the first team alongside Adrey Macmedi.
43:09
Speaker 1: Yeah, Julian Hole is one of the players that I
43:12
Speaker 1: thought was on the on the verge. Are very close
43:15
Speaker 1: to making a World Cup team if I had to
43:17
Speaker 1: pick it right, if I had to pick twenty six.
43:18
Speaker 1: And the reason I'm saying that is because he's you know,
43:22
Speaker 1: it's rare that you see such a young player with
43:25
Speaker 1: such good timing in the box, because it's not about
43:29
Speaker 1: the way he plays.
43:30
Speaker 4: It's not about.
43:31
Speaker 1: When he comes back and receives and just touches the
43:33
Speaker 1: ball like everyone else can. It's about the speed in
43:37
Speaker 1: which he makes his movements inside the box, his timing
43:41
Speaker 1: to get to the ball at the right places inside
43:44
Speaker 1: the six.
43:44
Speaker 4: You know, he reminds me a little bit.
43:47
Speaker 1: His finished style, finishing style reminds me a little bit
43:50
Speaker 1: of Giovanni Savarisi.
43:52
Speaker 4: That we used to have in the me.
43:54
Speaker 1: And the only reason I say that, and by the way,
43:56
Speaker 1: different players, because Julian Hole is much more of an
44:00
Speaker 1: athlete than Goos.
44:01
Speaker 4: Geo was not. Geo was not fast.
44:03
Speaker 1: But what Giovanni Savarizi had was that he could almost
44:09
Speaker 1: He had a great feel for where the bull was
44:11
Speaker 1: going to be and he would slide if you remember,
44:14
Speaker 1: if anyone can remember anything about him as him sliding
44:17
Speaker 1: to put a ball in. Well, Julian Hole can read
44:20
Speaker 1: the game so well that he can get at the
44:23
Speaker 1: end of things, but he's much more athletics because you
44:26
Speaker 1: can actually find you know, he's also a great transition player,
44:29
Speaker 1: so he was for me. He was one of those
44:32
Speaker 1: players that I thought, Hey, you know what, I'm picking
44:34
Speaker 1: this World Cup team.
44:35
Speaker 4: I have twenty six spots.
44:38
Speaker 1: If I'm in a bind and I need a goal,
44:41
Speaker 1: and maybe I'm being dominated by a.
44:42
Speaker 4: Superior team, He's he's He's a tool.
44:45
Speaker 1: That I'd like to have in my shed. And and
44:48
Speaker 1: that's how I feel about Julian Hole. There's very few
44:50
Speaker 1: like him, and I think he could certainly benefit from
44:53
Speaker 1: playing also with better players at a higher level.
44:58
Speaker 3: For those watching on YouTube, you may have noticed how
45:00
Speaker 3: much I lit up at the reference of Gsavareesa.
45:02
Speaker 2: I love that man.
45:03
Speaker 3: Made me very happy there tap to hear that connection.
45:06
Speaker 3: I really like that one. Julian Hall. It's his intelligence
45:10
Speaker 3: of movement. Early in the season, some of his first
45:13
Speaker 3: goals were tappins, and sometimes people use that like derogatory,
45:18
Speaker 3: like oh, like, you got a couple of tappins, Like
45:19
Speaker 3: you know, that's just a hot run of for him,
45:21
Speaker 3: and that's more impressive than scoring from twenty five years
45:25
Speaker 3: out for a center. Forward, because your goals come from
45:27
Speaker 3: the six, they come from within twelve yards, they come
45:29
Speaker 3: from those easy ones, the layups, and they come from
45:32
Speaker 3: your movement. It's not as if he was just standing
45:34
Speaker 3: at the back post and the ball hit him. His
45:36
Speaker 3: intelligence of the way he plays, I didn't know that
45:39
Speaker 3: his so I projected this for him, like I've been
45:43
Speaker 3: a big fan of his. But that jump from second
45:46
Speaker 3: team to first team soccer is a big one, and
45:48
Speaker 3: for me, the biggest one is the intelligence side, the
45:51
Speaker 3: movement side, the timing side, And I thought that might
45:53
Speaker 3: take a little bit to develop, because it's normal for
45:55
Speaker 3: people to take a little bit of time to develop.
45:57
Speaker 3: And last year he was between the second team and
46:00
Speaker 3: the first team. He showed them good moments in the
46:02
Speaker 3: first team, but it was kind of like, Okay, yeah,
46:04
Speaker 3: he needs some more seasoning, he needs some more reps,
46:06
Speaker 3: Like he's gonna get there, but he's not quite there yet.
46:08
Speaker 3: Within the first month of the season and MS it
46:10
Speaker 3: was like, oh wow, like he's there, and that development
46:13
Speaker 3: happened rapidly, and for me, the biggest parts of that
46:16
Speaker 3: is what you see is as you noted Teb, his timing,
46:20
Speaker 3: his movement and his intelligence so that is such a
46:24
Speaker 3: great quality for center forwards. We need to be more
46:26
Speaker 3: intelligent about the way that we talk about it just
46:28
Speaker 3: as a whole in the media, because it's easier to
46:30
Speaker 3: point to the player who beats two guys and puts
46:33
Speaker 3: it in the top corner. But what is gonna make
46:36
Speaker 3: him a lot of money and score him a lot
46:37
Speaker 3: of goals in his future is that tappens from six
46:40
Speaker 3: yards out because of his movement. So Julian Hall, whether
46:44
Speaker 3: he's what he might be with the U twenty threes
46:45
Speaker 3: more so than than a couple of these other guys
46:47
Speaker 3: on this raw, on this list that we put together.
46:50
Speaker 3: But the future is so very bright for him, and
46:54
Speaker 3: it's got the national team. He's eligible for Poland, a
46:57
Speaker 3: jim Meti is eligible for Albania. I don't think you
47:00
Speaker 3: have to worry about either of those guys unless that
47:02
Speaker 3: four years go by and they're not capped. But they
47:05
Speaker 3: they're USU fastional team players through and through. They love
47:08
Speaker 3: the federation from everything I've heard, not to worry about it,
47:11
Speaker 3: even if the Polish FA tries to woo His mother
47:15
Speaker 3: made her take a picture with the Poland jersey and
47:17
Speaker 3: put it up on social media. I don't think you
47:19
Speaker 3: have to worry about that one tap. You mentioned it
47:21
Speaker 3: that there might be a couple other guys that you
47:22
Speaker 3: wanted to just toss in as consideration.
47:24
Speaker 2: Who are players.
47:26
Speaker 1: I just wanted us not to forget a guy about
47:29
Speaker 1: guys like Jack McGlenn, you know, down the road. I
47:32
Speaker 1: don't think you know, I don't think by far, you know,
47:35
Speaker 1: by far, Jack McGlenn continues to be a young player
47:37
Speaker 1: who I think can contribute at a very high level
47:40
Speaker 1: and I think will continue to get better. And in particular,
47:42
Speaker 1: I'd like to mention Brooklyn Reigns. I've been watching Brooklyn
47:46
Speaker 1: Rains a lot in for New England Revolution and he's
47:49
Speaker 1: playing well. Tom And I know, you know, I know,
47:51
Speaker 1: our the center of our midfield is really crowded, but
47:54
Speaker 1: this kid is doing really well and he's getting better
47:56
Speaker 1: and better, and I think at some point he, at
48:01
Speaker 1: some point he deserves a chance.
48:04
Speaker 2: No, that's a great shout.
48:05
Speaker 3: And those are two players that don't want to be clear,
48:07
Speaker 3: more so on the mclen's side, that haven't forgot about him,
48:09
Speaker 3: haven't forgot about Aiden Morris, haven't forgot about Tanner Testament.
48:12
Speaker 3: Johnny Gardos so I know he only missed because of injury.
48:14
Speaker 3: Haven't forgot about him either, Tanner tessim By the way,
48:17
Speaker 3: he has been playing a little bit as center, but
48:19
Speaker 3: in his first game of the season for Leon playing
48:21
Speaker 3: as like a ball playing center back, which is a
48:24
Speaker 3: nice tool to have, particularly when if the US continue
48:26
Speaker 3: with the back three, that he could play defensive midfield
48:28
Speaker 3: or at that ball playing center back role. That should
48:30
Speaker 3: help with depth and help with his opportunities. Aiden Morris, again,
48:34
Speaker 3: I think we both are fans of his game. But
48:36
Speaker 3: like you said, the central midfield group is very, very crowded.
48:38
Speaker 3: That'll be difficult for Aji mn Metti, for Brooklyn Rains
48:41
Speaker 3: or Jack mclen but Jack McLean can play a little
48:42
Speaker 3: bit further forward too. There's a lot of good young
48:45
Speaker 3: talents have like none of it, not all of it
48:47
Speaker 3: is perfect. I think the five guys that we mentioned
48:48
Speaker 3: are probably the best talents, the best prospects in that
48:51
Speaker 3: like sixteen to nineteen age group.
48:54
Speaker 2: But like, there's plenty of talent to choose from this pool.
48:58
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think we chose guys that if
49:00
Speaker 1: you know and you know that not all of them
49:02
Speaker 1: will get called.
49:03
Speaker 2: Uh.
49:03
Speaker 1: But as everyone starts talking about, Hey, what you know,
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Speaker 1: what's the next wave of players? You know, I think
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Speaker 1: if you're gonna choose two or three, I think out
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Speaker 1: of the list of the guys that we named, if
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Speaker 1: you chose two or three of those, they fit right
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Speaker 1: into the team. I think they all would do well. So,
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Speaker 1: you know, a little bit at a time, we're not sure. Again,
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Speaker 1: I think we'll get a lot more out of Mauricio
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Speaker 1: Pochettino after this camp because obviously has four games, and
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Speaker 1: because there's four games, there's a good chance that we're
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Speaker 1: going to have at least four press conferences to listen to.
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Speaker 1: It'll be a lot and so and so I think
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Speaker 1: we'll get a lot more out of this camp and
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Speaker 1: out of trying to figure out what we look what
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Speaker 1: we're looking at when we look into our future.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: Well, I'm looking forward to that ross coming out to you,
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Speaker 3: twenty three roster and everything as we get closer to
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Speaker 3: games again, as the new cycle starts for the US
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Speaker 3: men's national team. But that's all we've got today. Thank
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