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- 0:00I am in an X-Wing and I hope you all
- 0:05jealous a lot of time looking for this looking for an xwing yes wait what have
- 0:10you got on the back of the chair oh the back of the chair so CU
- 0:14I've got the green screen now the chair I have is actually Green Oh chair well I
- 0:20can so I threw my orange jacket over it which is that I can take that off and
- 0:27see what that's like but because it's not fully green that's we no no that's a
- 0:33bit weird Audio Only list be assured no
- 0:37that's not good yeah yeah welcome to multiple
- 0:43nerdgasm with your hosts Matt Luke and
- 0:47Dan multiple nerdgasm your guide to All
- 0:53Things
- 0:58nerdy oh this is not going well now oh
- 1:04we've disrupted the whole thing yeah this is your fault it's all good yeah no
- 1:10talkity all right that's as good as it's going to get for now I'll fix it
- 1:15later I'm back now this is an animated uh X-Wing yes it is wait what's it doing
- 1:22no it's not it's not moving but I mean it's it's a cell a cell rendered xwing
- 1:27gotcha gotcha gotcha yeah it's just some fan art out there okay um speaking of
- 1:33cell rendered have you guys seen the trailer to the new Turtles movie Teenage
- 1:38Mutant Ninja Turtles movie I I saw [ __ ] amazing I saw it before Indie I
- 1:44think did you know that resus Ross did the soundtrack I I had forgotten I saw that
- 1:51they were doing it I was like twice the reason what the [ __ ] this looks
- 1:56beautiful animation looks like looks like Renaissance art okay I don't know
- 2:02is it actually done hand drawn or is it just look like that I doubt it I think
- 2:07it's 3D and a filter I don't think anything's really handdrawn anymore and
- 2:12in fact there's a new Disney movie coming out that looks like the old
- 2:15Disney movies and I have a suspicion that that's also 3D and with a with a 2d
- 2:19gbt can do anything now have you seen other have you seen the other Disney
- 2:25movie they're bringing out with the they're trying to do the PES of Caribbean thing and do
- 2:30movie based off the ride Manion looks I love that ride I I love
- 2:37that ride very much um and actually I I really like the movie they made about the jungle
- 2:43cruise oh was that oh that's right you the rock yeah with the rock it was
- 2:49really good and Metallica did the soundtrack yeah right yeah but yeah the
- 2:54the the new one I don't think is going to do too well it I've saw the trailer a
- 2:57few times I've been to the movies lately and it doesn't look it doesn't look
- 3:00great does it well I can tell you from what I understand it's not doing well so
- 3:04no but that doesn't mean a godamn thing no no no of course it doesn't these
- 3:09days who [ __ ] knows until you actually see a movie now who the [ __ ]
- 3:14knows yeah and even just yeah I have to
- 3:17see it myself I guess now you do I can't I still just like going back to remember
- 3:22when the Jud or gets pirating and pirating is bad and it's losing all this
- 3:26money but then every year they have record record profits and this movie
- 3:31made more than any other movie before but killing it makes me question now
- 3:35whether they oh we're all going bankrupt over here in Hollywood are you yeah yeah
- 3:42I've had to sell my many houses yeah just seem like every week There's a new
- 3:47record being broken for a movie like it's weird well I mean inflation's going
- 3:51to make sure that that happens regardless I'm not making fun of the
- 3:54actors who are on strike by the way making fun of the the rich people I'll
- 3:57make fun of them for two reasons number one um friends of mine who have moved to
- 4:02Hollywood who are out picketing and putting photos on Instagram going I'm
- 4:06I'm also on strike ma did you have a job strike
- 4:11from um if you were an out of work actor and you're on strike it's not really got
- 4:15all of us out here choosing not to work right now that's right isn't that
- 4:20standing celebrities is it also part think that someone people are striking
- 4:24for the fact that there's like not with the actors but more so the
- 4:28people behind the they don't have that job security type of thing well I tell
- 4:32you everyone who's not an actor who's not on strike right now is involuntarily
- 4:36on strike because there's no [ __ ] production so all all all of my M were
- 4:40set painters and stuff are like I got to sell my [ __ ] house guys get back to
- 4:43work yeah it's it's hard I saw one um I'm not going to say who it is it's an
- 4:49act it was an actor who posted something on um Instagram and it didn't go down
- 4:53the way they intended because it it did come across quite funny and they were
- 4:57talking about how they did they small role in a film many many years ago mhm
- 5:03and they get paid a good amount of money every year for that um whereas they've
- 5:09done a a big Netflix film recently and they don't get a whole lot of money for
- 5:14that and then people in the comments were like okay most of us have to work
- 5:19all the time to get yeah I don't get paid for jobs I
- 5:23used to work out yeah so it just and I was like oh yeah that is a bit
- 5:27disconnected isn't it like how to turn $40 into
- 5:33$4,000 um put $40 worth of Petrol in your car and go to
- 5:39work but I'm even looking at it but that's sort of missing the point of what
- 5:43they're asking for because the regid like that check after is that they want
- 5:47but if you've done a recent thing with Netflix they haven't unsold it you got
- 5:53paid for that and then it has sold again it's not going to be that's the thing I
- 5:58think that's the problem is it just doesn't work the same same way and
- 6:00they're discovering now that it just the money's not going to be the same like
- 6:04Spotify and that I was in a commercial once and I had um I think it had a a
- 6:102-year run before any residuals and then residuals after 2 years and literally on
- 6:15the on the one year and and 364th day they pulled that from Air you
- 6:21know what I mean like so they sure they were always working out how to not pay
- 6:26residuals yes so really you want to be paid up
- 6:31front or back end yeah or just do it for publicity that's what that's what you're
- 6:37do do it for your show I've been doing that's right same barely ever been PID
- 6:42doing that for 40
- 6:48years um I'm back and I can I can hear out of one ear yeah oh yeah yeah yeah
- 6:54and you can one mouth so that's good I don't know if you guys have ever had a a
- 6:58bad ear infection is [ __ ] awful so it's one I used to get when I
- 7:03was a kid and they were agonizing but used to get never had one so I don't
- 7:09know I can't compare it to anything it's if you start to get one listeners don't
- 7:14do what I did and think that'll probably go away just go to the [ __ ] doctor
- 7:18cuz you do not want to esate mean pre 20th century yes that is what you just
- 7:25had to do um but now that we have P you do not have to enjoy that unless you
- 7:32hate sleeping you want to get rid of it as soon as possible cuz it's [ __ ]
- 7:35painful I I was I learned that you can take I I don't have a lot of experience
- 7:39with painkillers unlike some other hosts of this podcast Luke just rubbing my
- 7:44heart I learned that you can take I learned that you can take four ibuprofen
- 7:49at a time without dying oh I've never taken more than two also recently
- 7:54remember when I had food poisoning for two solid weeks yeah MH I learned that I
- 7:58can't take IPR oh yeah that'll [ __ ] your stomach up yeah oh yeah also param now
- 8:04you can stack listeners this is not medical advice let me be very clear I'm
- 8:09not encouraging you to do this right go see a doctor I did this the doctor told
- 8:13me to if you take ibuprofen and it's not
- 8:16working you can take um Panadol parasal yeah yes cuz they they're different but
- 8:22again list don't take my word for this go see a [ __ ] doctor if you need some
- 8:26help come talk to me I'll give you advice go see a doctor not seen Luke literally
- 8:32Crush snort and endone okay off of my desk
- 8:38so I unfortunately have a very good relationship with painkillers I don't
- 8:43like it I don't know if it's a good relationship you know there's somebody
- 8:47else who had a good relationship with painkillers are we going to talk about
- 8:50him now or is this Afterparty like I as I said go see doctor not Michael
- 8:54Jackson's doctor not Michael Jackson's cuz his doctor he's in prison mhm mhm as
- 8:59he should be because he was basically just giving him drugs to knock him out
- 9:03wasn't he like he was putting him on IV
- 9:07um anzing drugs that you're really supposed to
- 9:12have yeah just to get to sleep yeah yeah and that's not something that's not
- 9:18meant to be an extreme like we drew this not ah are you a bit sleepy okay we
- 9:23we'll tuck you in for the night and I'll and I'll morning chocolate and a little
- 9:28boy snuggle in so if you're just tuning in uh we
- 9:32mentioned Michael Jackson last week because there's a new podcast out called
- 9:37think twice um that I was listening to
- 9:40I've now finished I recommended it um it is pretty comprehensive although if you
- 9:47want to really deep dive you've got to go elsewhere or do your own research do
- 9:50your own research I'm just asking questions sorry you're a flat Earth now
- 9:54I thought it was good there were a couple of bits in it that made me go hang on
- 10:00what um which encouraged me afterwards and if it hadn't been for that I
- 10:04probably might not have bothered but I did look up stuff afterwards and I was
- 10:06like it it leaves out quite a bit of stuff that I think is quite important to
- 10:11the story the problem is you shared a good link with me man and I I I watch
- 10:16the entire thing um it's I mean it's all that's the problem is it's all and the problem I
- 10:23find with it is everybody either starts with the with the intent to exonerate
- 10:29or to incriminate nobody goes I'll look at the research first then I'll make up
- 10:34my mind sure you can figure it out well here's the other thing it's not for us
- 10:40to decide the FBI did a full investigation there were two court cases
- 10:44and he was exonerated so like in the laws that govern our society he has been
- 10:50deemed innocent after the podcast is he good or bad well here's the
- 10:56thing also this happened years ago before a before the internet when MH
- 11:03when when the media used to report in a very different way where it was very
- 11:06very difficult for people to fact check and and gun to their own opinions which
- 11:11is both a good and a bad thing in equal measures but a lot of stuff that we we
- 11:16just didn't know back then that I was able to look up stuff and I go oh okay
- 11:20and I I have a completely different perspective anything I could have known
- 11:23the 1993 raid by the FBI their notes on that are in public record now you can
- 11:28and they're slight redacted but you can go and read through them but is it also
- 11:32coming from a period of time where some of stuff was alleged to happen that it
- 11:36was a time when Hollywood and things did swoop stuff under the rug oh 100% 100%
- 11:42absolutely more than yeah yeah yeah well yeah me too and all that changed a lot
- 11:47with that well it certainly changed the way that we listen to
- 11:53accusers um but that may or may not have made a difference speciic case I was
- 11:59listening to an interview with Johnny roton recently oh yeah yeah got some Sex
- 12:04Pistols news this week oh what so fit but sort of fits in with this so in 1978
- 12:10he remember Jimmy sevil sevil that that
- 12:13terrible terrible guy the guy who was clearly a weirdo pervert yes that that
- 12:20that somehow got to hang out with the British TV host was doing all this stuff
- 12:27with kids for decades and and then there was a radio interview
- 12:33that Johnny roton did basically calling out like we all know the rumors and
- 12:37stuff that which they suppressed and then they went BBC wouldn't allow him to
- 12:40go on for years and sort of like it's at a time where even he say like you're
- 12:44probably not going to Heir this because I've said these things and they didn't
- 12:48so in other words even if they did get called out that was what got silenced
- 12:53not yes not the right well if there's one thing I've learned from this podcast
- 12:58and from my own research and from listening to a couple of other
- 13:02interviews and stuff is that Michael Jackson is such an interesting man and I
- 13:08don't mean because of his crazy childhood and stuff anything he did in
- 13:13his life he did because we allowed him to do it we as a society allowed him to
- 13:18do it he because here's the thing and we can go into this but if he was touching
- 13:22kids in his bed it was because we as a society said take as many kids to your
- 13:27bed as you want mate like good singer and a great dancer you can just be on TV
- 13:32holding kid I love him and no one will say a godamn thing I don't know how to how to
- 13:39approach like just go into it just just spew it
- 13:44out so in every case where there were allegations made against him there's
- 13:50always something that makes me go why should I trust these people because it's
- 13:55there's never a cleancut case where somebody just went to the cops and said
- 14:00I just want to do the right thing there's always some suspicious [ __ ]
- 14:04going on correct like the money involved the first kid's dad wanted 20 million
- 14:10bucks and he didn't even give a [ __ ] about the kid he just wanted 20 million
- 14:13bucks and then it and then the kid told Michael Jackson's private investigator
- 14:17oh my dad just wants the money and then so like I mean and the other thing the
- 14:23big thing is and they didn't mention this podcast which is the main thing
- 14:25that I was kind of like I found it afterwards and I was like it's so weird
- 14:27that they didn't mention this
- 14:29but that um kid they raided the Mansion
- 14:35they took um photos of Michael Jackson
- 14:38naked dick and all yeah and when they compared the kid's description of the
- 14:44dick it didn't match the dick the kid said that he was circumcised and he
- 14:48wasn't and that's why there was no legal case ever brought against him
- 14:53they couldn't get a grand jury to indict Michael Jackson because they said
- 14:56there's no evidence here this kid got everything wrong yeah and then in the
- 15:01podcast they say oh Michaelson settled that case which sounds bad until you
- 15:05find out the district attorney wouldn't drop the legal case he just couldn't
- 15:09progress it and then the civil case happened which meant if they went to
- 15:12court and Michael Jackson was deposed and everything like that they would see
- 15:16all the evidence and the family would see all the evidence and then they go oh
- 15:19now we know what to make up to to get see the evidence presented in the civil
- 15:23case and then they lawyers told him you got to pay them because you can't you
- 15:27can't go to court in a civil case because the legal Cas will happen
- 15:30afterward be [ __ ] this is a problem thing I always find weird this show is
- 15:35when they proceed what you said they presum the civil case first they try and
- 15:38go down that route so if yeah honestly if if this was to happen anywhere and I
- 15:43was aware of it I'd be going straight to the police yeah like like step one from
- 15:48what I found out could find afterwards Michael Jackson refused to settle the
- 15:52case until literally the day before and then the his the judge and the lawyers
- 15:56told him you will be deposed tomorrow and [ __ ] ruin you because they will
- 16:01money it's nothing to you justay he was like I'm not paying because that'll make
- 16:05me look guilty and they're like when somebody's already seen your
- 16:10defense that will make you look whether he did it or not I I don't know but
- 16:13that's all just very sus like but then you've also got other ones that have
- 16:17come out and said it and it has been false which is it doesn't help if there
- 16:22is something wrong going on when you've got false reports happen the the second
- 16:26kid had there's a whole the 1993 case
- 16:30this is the 20033 case that kid he he he was a cancer survivor that Michael
- 16:37Jackson had given money to help save him and all that kind of stuff brought him
- 16:40onto that very poorly considered
- 16:44documentary well poly considered but also you could argue was completely
- 16:50contrived in order to make the facts about that that they left out too which
- 16:54annoyed me we can we talk about that but that kid the fact that Martin Basher
- 16:58asked him to have kids there on the day yes and then said in the docent I can't
- 17:02believe he's got all these kids and then he invited the kids yeah he said I want
- 17:06shots of him with kids so that I can point out that he's so that I can
- 17:09incriminate him yeah yeah um yeah because he didn't know they were filming
- 17:15this documentary unbeknownst to them Michael Jackson's people were filming
- 17:19the documentary being filmed and were then able to in court show footage of
- 17:23them making [ __ ] up and like what a mess it anyway that kid
- 17:29Chris Tucker uh told Michael Jackson they were all for some reason they were all on
- 17:35vacation together yeah Chris Tucker knew him first yeah so he he said oh this
- 17:38sick kid Michael Jackson gave him a bunch of money got him you know he got
- 17:42well and then they became friends and they were all on vacation together and
- 17:47these family was apparently telling saying to Chris Tucker Oh you should
- 17:49give us your car you've got enough money you can buy another car and Chris Tucker
- 17:53told Michael Jackson this family's [ __ ] mate you've got to stop hanging
- 17:57out with them they're going to they're going to [ __ ] you over and so Michael
- 18:00Jackson cut him off and then suddenly he was molesting that kid like I'm not
- 18:06saying he didn't but it's a bit suspicious yeah and just it was all it
- 18:11was all fine while it was happening and the kid's mom had previously accused um
- 18:15security guards at a of a store that she was shoplifting from of listing when
- 18:19they arrested her first first she got arrested and then tried to sue them for
- 18:23just physically manhandling her was assault and then when that didn't fly
- 18:28she said oh it was sexual assault and they opened it back up again yeah it's
- 18:32not to say again it's not to say it didn't happen but it could be it could
- 18:35be going back to it was and they were okay with it why they were getting free
- 18:39holidays and just muddies the water to so much though that I can't just there's
- 18:44no clear-cut case where and then and then the final case the final two kids
- 18:48Wade Robson one of one of the kids who's accused him more recently was a a
- 18:53defendant in the the 2003 case when when when questioned was asked did Michael
- 18:59Jackson touched you on the penis not you know was it abuse or did he do anything
- 19:03abusive in there just asked specific questions and he said no and now he's
- 19:07saying oh I didn't know it was but they didn't ask him if it was
- 19:11abuse they just asked him if it happened so it's kind of like and this is where
- 19:16but this is where there's there's that special limitation doesn't come in with
- 19:19this because you do have even though he's a question there is this thing
- 19:23where children will repress things this yeah but this guy was like 100%
- 19:28supportive of Michael Jackson he was running he was working for him he was
- 19:33doing all this stuff for years and years and years until two weeks before he he
- 19:36accused him he got he didn't get a job working on the Vegas show and
- 19:41allay Michael and then all of a sudden he got molested I don't know it's like
- 19:46again I'm not I'm not saying but it's just like
- 19:51some thing where it's like some comes out and says that was him getting paid
- 19:57off and we'll keep look after you and then stops happening and then I agree
- 20:02except that that's not what happened so that no no see you're exactly right and
- 20:05this is exactly what happened to Woody Allen right so Woody Allen gets accused
- 20:09of molesting his his own daughter Dylan on a specific day not years of abuse on
- 20:15a specific day and he then pointed out he's like hold on goes back through his
- 20:19diary and goes I was already on supervised visits by that day so you're
- 20:24saying that I lived with her for 10 years
- 20:29alone time with but after I invation
- 20:35anded then drive to her house and molest her on that day and that's the same
- 20:41thing that's happened with the way because it was like they changed the date of the
- 20:47molestation uh occurrence that they were alleging because they set a specific
- 20:52date and then he went well I've got footage of you after back at my house
- 20:57saying thanks for all the [ __ ] nice stuff at and they went oh well then we
- 21:01mean on this day well and he's like well hold on but that day is after I've
- 21:05already been accused so are you saying that you were ACC we were friends then
- 21:10you accused me of being a pedophile and then after that when I was under yeah
- 21:14then after when I was under investigation I invited you back and
- 21:17then I molested you now again this is not saying that he hasn't done anything
- 21:21wrong it's just saying that as Matt says
- 21:24there's no clear evidence that and it's
- 21:29like you you just don't know like say and I said this last week too I think
- 21:35just the things I've seen him do with my own eyes are wrong AB definitely he had
- 21:41an unhealthy obsession with children and he should have [ __ ] stopped
- 21:44especially after the first time there accusations have [ __ ] that in 1993 he
- 21:49was accused of being a child molester acquitted and then instead of going well
- 21:53I can't [ __ ] go near I should be hanging out with kids and sleeping with
- 21:56them in my bed and he doubled down on it yeah y um means that his obsession with
- 22:01kids was as you say very unhealthy yeah doesn't make him a child but I think
- 22:08there probably should be a law about taking kids into your bed you don't want
- 22:12people to think you're a child molister just don't do it don't hang out with
- 22:16kids mate yeah yeah I know I know I
- 22:22know and then the other thing I was going to say that the other kid from
- 22:25that Finding Neverland they he he he gave an account and said something
- 22:30happened in the train station and then it was over this period of years and
- 22:34then now they' they're like well hang on a minute the train station wasn't built
- 22:36then it was built two years after that and then now the kids like oh I guess it
- 22:40was later then it's like it's another one where it's like don't get me wrong
- 22:45doesn't mean he maybe he misremembered but still it's like because the whole
- 22:49thing the thing that this brings to mind too and and the the the video that you
- 22:53sent me the tone of it feels just like the videos I watch were people trying to
- 22:59acquit Oswald from the Kennedy assassination you know and they say
- 23:03things like well they the government wanted you to think there were three
- 23:07shots F but people on the ground heard more than three shots I say a eyewitness
- 23:11testimony is almost the worst kind of proof that you can have because people
- 23:16will remember things completely wrong even if they were all there second
- 23:20bullets [ __ ] Echo you might have heard more shots than there actually
- 23:24were fired it doesn't mean and you know people are like well he wasn't as good a
- 23:28shot well guess what the first shot missed entirely the second shot got him
- 23:33in the shoulder the third shot was the one that got him in the head like there
- 23:38is a reason why the official story discredits all of this other information
- 23:43and maybe that's the answer to your penis question Matt maybe a 10-year-old
- 23:47doesn't know how to describe a penis and when they said was it just like your
- 23:50dad's he said uh yeah it was and they said okay circumcise cuz 10y old kids
- 23:55don't use kids don't say things like [ __ ] ever seen circumcised penis does know so
- 24:01I think that's probably why that never came up is because it was irrelevant but
- 24:05it it it it just meant there was no case basically there's enough I mean what do
- 24:09they call burden of proof Reasonable Doubt exactly yeah in in all of them
- 24:13that's and that's that's why he never got you know yeah uh but here's the
- 24:19thing too I find this so fascinating and this week I sent you guys a screenshot I
- 24:24went back and played the arcade game moon walker starring Michael Jackson the
- 24:31the goal in this game is to collect as many children as you can cuz you're
- 24:38rescuing them yeah but like it's not a secret get enough children the problem
- 24:44they turn into a chimp and then you carry around a chimp for a bit the guys
- 24:48are weirdo I know but it's it was never a question of the fact that he loved
- 24:51kids and it was weird it was just a question of like how much is he how what
- 24:57is he doing with these kids and then even like like you said like even after
- 25:00the accusations people were like well it's probably all right yeah but even
- 25:04like yeah and if you didn't you were an outlier like do you remember when Jaris
- 25:09Cocker from uh pulp the band pulp um he
- 25:14he he rushed the stage when Michael Jackson it must Grammys or something
- 25:19like that right rushed the stage and uh and just in protest because he was like
- 25:25Michael Jackson singing this song about how he can heal the world and and fix
- 25:29the kids and stuff he's like this is idolatry like this is this is a guy
- 25:33who's trying to tell you he has Christlike powers and this week I
- 25:37watched have you seen the 8 Minute film that's advertising the history album or
- 25:42the his story I they talk about it in the podcast and it very narcissistic
- 25:47it's amazing it is amazing Jackson is walking down the
- 25:52streets of Budapest like this is Eastern Europe when the Iron Curtain has only
- 25:57just come down in the last couple of years and there's all of these people
- 26:01he's walking with this you you can only call it like a Soviet style Army he is
- 26:07in the fascist military Garb and then
- 26:11they unveil a 30 foot statue of him that
- 26:16is not just for the clip but also was erected all over Eastern Europe it there
- 26:21statues everywhere over there bizarrely hubristic to the point of I love it the
- 26:27campness of it like who thinks of
- 26:30themselves in that way yeah it's so odd I I love the there was an episode about
- 26:36how he himself or he and his team planted a lot of the Tabloid nonsense
- 26:41that came about him like that him sleeping in a hyperbaric chamber they
- 26:45sent those photos to the newspaper they had the editor of the newspaper on they
- 26:48said no they [ __ ] sent us those photos mate if I took anything I asked
- 26:51them for a better photo and they sent me another one yes and they sent another
- 26:54one yeah because they said maybe this is not Michael doesn't
- 26:59I've dug into this too and yes I saw the first and second photos if I took
- 27:03anything away from the think twice podcast it was that kind of information
- 27:08knowing that it was Michael Jackson's own publicity team that were fueling
- 27:13those weirdo rumors because they thought and any tour announc or something like that yeah
- 27:20exactly something from here sure anytime that yeah that that he was
- 27:27waning in the press or needed more publicity there was another we knew that
- 27:31that would get picked up y yeah um there
- 27:35was one thing that made me go what in the in the show in in the podcast and it
- 27:41was when they said that the nickname wacko Jacko was racist because 200 years
- 27:47ago in England they used to make monkeys fight and one of the monkeys was very
- 27:51good at fighting and his name was Jacko spelled differently yeah going off the
- 27:56Jacko I was thinking the w you're listening only on the podcast
- 28:02please do yourself a favor and go to YouTube right now so that you can look
- 28:05at Luke's face when he hears this news for the first time they think it's more
- 28:09likely that these tabloid journalists were ancient monkey fighting
- 28:13afficionados and racist and yeah and that the people living in Britain in
- 28:1820th century would go hold on that reminds me of a [ __ ] show I want saw a
- 28:22comic about yeah well not even it was like literally a monkey that that that
- 28:26used to fight other monkeys and and like like who knows about that and then
- 28:30that's more likely than just his name's Jackson yeah so they called him wacko
- 28:35Jacko which is a shorter version of his [ __ ] surname like I was baffled by
- 28:40that to be to be clear he [ __ ] hated that nickname evidently sure but I don't
- 28:45I I don't know where that but he never said it was because it was
- 28:50racist people of the wo part no like and is it
- 28:57like is it are they suggesting that these reporters new or are they just
- 29:02suggesting is this some new thing where it's like we've discovered that there
- 29:05was a monkey named Jacko therefore it has now become racist to call Michael
- 29:10Jackson I don't want to speculate but like it was so odd and then and then
- 29:15they said too well and then you consider that later he had a monkey Coco with him
- 29:19and I was like so are you suggesting they knew he would later have a monkey
- 29:23[ __ ] you talking it was a chimp it was a chimpanzee his name was Bubbles and it
- 29:27was not monkey so I don't think that flies at all it was just such an odd SE
- 29:33and then they moved on to something else and I was like that was weird so we've
- 29:36talked about the fact that he hangs around kids and that's weird the second
- 29:41weirdest thing that I think he did right cuz I understand look the guy got
- 29:45obsessed with plastic surgery there's plenty of people that do that he kept
- 29:48doing he he got a nose job it looked [ __ ] he got another nose job looked
- 29:52wasn't the first no job was due to the fire or something no that was his his
- 29:57dad used to tease him for his big nose which is sad to be honest like when
- 30:02hearing him talk about that in that interview is sad and in fact yeah when
- 30:05when he talked to Oprah about that he was like when he stopped being a cute
- 30:08kid and he was a not so cute teen people would literally say to his face you're
- 30:13not cute anymore like and that that must really suck like that that is what would
- 30:18give you a complex but this is the thing
- 30:21Matt if you yourself right suddenly developed a skin disorder that made
- 30:28certain patches on your skin go black right yes and you felt the need to put
- 30:33it on a bit of makeup to even out the tone would you go
- 30:38we'll find out next week whether I'll do it all black we'll find out next we or
- 30:41would you use makeup the color of most of your skin that's what no one has been
- 30:46able to explain to me why I know he had a skin condition I I buy that why that
- 30:52he had a skin condition why did he go towards white instead of black the
- 30:55reason why my thing is depend on how bad the skin condition was like would it be
- 31:00easier to go which direction is it easier to go okay I pose you the
- 31:05question I'll say this on your skin it was probably back then easier to get
- 31:11makeup to do it the the way he did it than the other way maybe that's my thing
- 31:17you know I didn't realize because obviously bad came out well when we were
- 31:20like eight or something the late ' 80s right and that was the album that I
- 31:24first kind of knew him for yeah same I I was not aware that that was kind of his
- 31:29coming out as the like completely looking like that like oh same yeah yeah
- 31:34yeah they describe how basically when the bad video which I didn't know SC
- 31:38sayy directed the [ __ ] bad music video I know how did I not know and it
- 31:41goes for 15 [ __ ] minutes yeah yeah how did I not know that but then anyone
- 31:45when they premiered it all anyone was talking about was like why does he look
- 31:48like that yeah yeah I'll take you back Matt Score says he's probably desperate
- 31:54for you to not know that at this point I knew John land did Thriller but I didn't
- 32:00know oh yeah right yeah interesting but that makes sense too that John Landis
- 32:05would do the Thriller video because a he's done American W in London so he
- 32:10knows all the Prosthetics and stuff but he's also done Blues Brothers so he's
- 32:13done these big street dance numbers and stuff to he's the perfect person for
- 32:17this is there a helicopter in the Thriller music video o
- 32:22o too soon Luke you know what that you know
- 32:26what that is yeah what have I missed so
- 32:31Spielberg did a Revival of The Twilight
- 32:34Zone in the 80s tlight own the movie uh Anthology movie with different directors
- 32:40doing different sequences and somebody died in a helicopter in John landis's uh
- 32:45his his part alleged alleged I think because John land pushing them someone
- 32:52did no no no allegedly because John L insisted it again fly lower or something
- 32:58along those lines and surely the pilot should go that's actually too low I'm
- 33:03not going to do that I mean I'm not obviously not qualified to say you know
- 33:06what that could be next week's show we'll investigate that next we'll figure that out
- 33:13yeah um I mean I guess that's all I have
- 33:16to say about about it I I
- 33:20guess I get this my my feeling is like I
- 33:26don't think he was a predator in the way that we often think
- 33:31of people who do these things I think if anything happened it was a weird Edge
- 33:36case thing that is not the same you know because people say oh you know McCoy
- 33:41culen and and Cory Feldman have always said he didn't do anything and people go
- 33:45oh he was smart enough not to to molest them and it's like well so you're saying
- 33:48he was like some kind of like creepy intelligent evil yeah evil prayer like
- 33:53it really doesn't feel like that like he was a [ __ ] idiot if that was the why
- 33:57waiting until there's an active court case to start molesting other kids like
- 34:00it just doesn't I don't know look power corrupts as they say absolute power
- 34:05corrupts absolutely I do not for a second have trouble believing that he
- 34:10thought he was immune to laws and all of that kind of stuff yes and he ju just
- 34:15having kids at his house without their parents is already a thing normal people
- 34:21wouldn't do right and I think he probably went [ __ ] stop me on Michael
- 34:26Jackson and kids in your bed and all of that whether he was intending it to be
- 34:31sexual or not I think kids at various
- 34:34times probably maybe years after went hm that wasn't okay and now I don't feel
- 34:40good about that and they completely entitled to feel that and I think he
- 34:44should be reprimanded for that whether or not as you say m he deliberately
- 34:48tried to molest and then cover up I I suspect if things happened it was more a
- 34:54confused like horrible thing than some plan that he had not an
- 35:00excuse not at all not at all I'm just saying it's yeah it's like I don't know
- 35:05you can compare it to anything else to be honest like who the [ __ ] else has you
- 35:09can't because no other person on this planet has ever been given the power
- 35:12that we gave to him yeah
- 35:16yeah yeah he put statues in his video so
- 35:21people really put up statues he started calling he he told them to call him the
- 35:26King of Pop and then he I didn't say that and then everyone just believed it
- 35:29for years and years and years and years and then everyone's like oh the King of
- 35:32Pop and then it's like hang on a minute he decided he was the King of Pop his
- 35:36own publicity team came up with that name I know disappointing isn't it but
- 35:40then of course of course it was now that we think about but it was that it always
- 35:45was it would always hit him behind the scenes the Puppet Master he was not in a
- 35:51smart way in a [ __ ] stupid but it's also he was such a public figure but
- 35:55also not your mic your cat has moved your mic they
- 36:01have but he was a public figure but also very reclus at the same time yeah yeah yeah
- 36:08yeah yeah any did you watch that where he
- 36:15wanted to find out what it was like to go to a grocery store so they built the
- 36:19set of a grocery store and hired actors to go and pretend to be Shoppers and
- 36:24stuff so that he could have the experience of just going to do grocery
- 36:28that has to be a joke doesn't it no man this guy's life this guy's life was just
- 36:34[ __ ] something else like he had no like he it's like you know that saying
- 36:38where they like if if I could if you could speak to a lion you'd have nothing
- 36:41in common I feel like it's like that and and I think he felt like that too except
- 36:46apparently talking to kids he he was able to connect on some level which is
- 36:50sad because when they talk to some of the and I can't remember if this is in
- 36:53your video M that you sent me or something else but the the the kids that
- 36:58the kids that he definitely didn't molest that he just hung out with right
- 37:02their parents have said when he came to our house he was like can I wash the
- 37:06dishes cuz he's not allowed to wash dishes where he lives you know like and
- 37:10he just he finds vacuum and he wanted to
- 37:13do this he's not allowed to it's it's he can it's your choice no no but that's
- 37:20the thing right so he doesn't know what
- 37:22to do so so my wife used to work for
- 37:28one specific Media company that I won't say the name of in the context I mean go
- 37:32back for other episodes if you want to know um and then when she encountered
- 37:37Executives of that company she had to have specific drinks that evidently they
- 37:42had insisted were always ready for them when they got got to the meetings etc
- 37:48etc and she was complaining to me once about like you know the hus of that and
- 37:52I said well you say that except I said once when I used to work for a
- 37:56production company I said once that I always like a Red Bull before I go on a
- 38:00shoot because like you know perks me up and every single shoot I was on from
- 38:04then on yeah there was a Red Bull be and and to the point where I had to say at
- 38:09some point like there doesn't have to be a guy whose job it is to always get me a
- 38:12Red Bull like can I make that perfectly clear like and I think it proba happen
- 38:18to mate I'm positive that people were told if you see Michael Jackson going
- 38:23towards that [ __ ] kitchen you tell him go back to your fun rooms and stuff
- 38:28and you're jump jumping castle that may but then he also can say no it's fine
- 38:34I'm going to do it no here's the thing I don't think he's the boss where he lives
- 38:39I know he should be but I don't think he is no yeah cuz we I
- 38:45mean I don't want about but his yeah his the way his dad treated him when were
- 38:50kids I feel like he didn't have a whole lot of autonomy or or wouldn't have felt
- 38:55like he had a whole lot of autonomy in his life at all to be honest there's a
- 38:59great it's not just him there's a great clip that I saw this week of um Mariah
- 39:03Carey being interviewed and she doesn't know what a gas bill is and she's
- 39:07baffled cuz she says something about doing something with her money and the
- 39:10and the guy the reporter goes oh if I have any spare money I'm usually just
- 39:14trying to get ahead of my gas no no I'm usually just paying bills and she goes
- 39:18who's Bill and he goes no gas like like
- 39:22gas bill and she goes who's gas bill and uh
- 39:28doesn't know what it is [ __ ] she somebody's job to pay those for
- 39:33her that I can understand what one thing before I yeah we should go on about one
- 39:38thing I wanted to mention is not about Michael Jackson I love that [ __ ]
- 39:41lawyer who whose office was opposite the court where the case was going on they
- 39:45interviewed this guy and he just rented he rented out his roof to people who
- 39:49want to take photos he rented out his the front yard to um Jimmy Kim to bouncy
- 39:53camel bouncy camel bouncy housee money Fu come from bouncy camel that's a
- 39:58fraudi and slip mate yeah Jesus you want I thought thaty serious he said he made
- 40:02300 Grand off that trial yeah because he says Luke he goes um a guy you know one
- 40:08like reporter from the times or something said can I stand on your roof
- 40:11and take pictures and and just because he was like well [ __ ] it he goes yeah
- 40:14sure it's $1,000 an hour and the guy was like no problem and he was like oh okay
- 40:21and then when was like we want to put a jumping castle in your front yard he was
- 40:24like okay it's 5,000 dollars an hour and
- 40:28they're like no problem he what the [ __ ] yeah like thinking ridiculous number
- 40:34like not going to happen well CU they when he first took the photographers up
- 40:38they went up there and they looked out and then Michael pulled up got out stood
- 40:41on the roof of the car and like moonwalk on the roof of moonwalk on the roof of
- 40:45the car and they had this perfect view of it and all the photographers were
- 40:48like take my [ __ ] money like we'll be back tomorrow can we live here for the
- 40:52three months that this trial will be on yeah yeah but do you know remember what he
- 40:56used money for to make a TV commercial where he was Indiana Jones yes to make a
- 41:01trailer where he for his practice where he hangs off a
- 41:05helicopter that's amazing jumps out of a helicopter into a convertible drives off
- 41:11yeah amazing that guy was awesome yeah yeah God God all right about half an
- 41:18hour for yeah before we go into anything else I've just got one more thing not
- 41:22about Michael Jackson but just while we're on people who hate kids um it's
- 41:28well documented we're not on people who hate kids that's sorry that love kids
- 41:32too much no no no but just what uh Ral Dal beloved children's author and still
- 41:38one of my favorite kids authors to this day um infamously hated children thought
- 41:44they were awful um evidently has been trolling us this entire time do you
- 41:50remember the scene in Wily woner and the Chocolate Factory and I can't remember
- 41:54if this is in the book but I definitely know it's in the film so it must have
- 41:57been in the book right um where there's lickable wallpaper yes and he goes to
- 42:03kids come and have a lick and he says the strawberries taste like strawberries
- 42:07the blueberries taste like blueberries and the snowberries taste like
- 42:10snowberries and you think it's just he was making up a funny sberry right
- 42:16exactly no so before before Ro D was a
- 42:21kid's author he was an adult author and I don't mean porn I mean wrote button
- 42:27and he aged backwards he became a children's author late in
- 42:30life he wrote a James Bond book for [ __ ] sake um but he wrote a book one
- 42:37specific book called my Uncle Oswald right okay and in that book is the following
- 42:43passage um there's only one way I could get violent Yasmin said I grabbed hold
- 42:48of his snos berries and H on to them like Grim death gave them a Twist or two
- 42:52to make him hold still very effective snowberry are
- 42:58[Laughter]
- 43:02testicles that's great
- 43:06yeah yeah that's yeah there's no two ways you can take that the SN the
- 43:11strawberries taste like strawberries and the testicles taste like B taste like
- 43:19balls so you stay away from that the snowberry set stick with the strawber
- 43:24kids yeah I'm looking forward to to shal and his snowberries I am as well you
- 43:30know who's not looking forward to that movie apparently dwarves who are [ __ ]
- 43:35angry that uh yeah hug Grant yeah mind you oaas aren't dwarves they're
- 43:42fictitious creatures that were all D up in his head I know but they were played
- 43:46by dwarves in the other one so yeah just reminded me of that thing where Peter
- 43:50Dinklage was saying they shouldn't have to put up with those roles and all the
- 43:55other dwar factors were like sorry mate can can we not they're the only roles we
- 43:59get mate yeah we'll take we'll take what we can get thanks M yeah that's right
- 44:03we're not all Peter Dinklage now there was that controversy
- 44:08with uh the Snow White movie which was directed by rert Sanders I
- 44:15believe and The Hobbit The Hobbit they were that's right yeah they literally
- 44:19superimposed fullsize actors onto dwarf's faces I can see why you'd be
- 44:23annoyed but then again they did that with Indiana Jones the most recent movie
- 44:28they got a young actor they superimposed Harrison Ford's face onto him like
- 44:33yeah that's movies if you're not the star you're just an extra look speaking
- 44:39of Hugh Grant I watched a movie it's been a couple of weeks since I watched
- 44:43it now but I haven't talked about it yet and I'm guessing maybe Luke's seen it I
- 44:47don't know oh if it's what I think you're talking about it's got Hugh Grant in
- 44:52it um something a while ago well it's not Guardian three so I'm assing talking
- 44:58about and Dragons I it's Dungeons and Dragons I watch I hav seen it yet no we
- 45:03haven't seen it and we discussed last week guys it's really good what is this
- 45:09it's really good we said only if you said it was good would we would we even
- 45:13give it a chance guys watch The Dungeons and Dragons movie are you serious it's
- 45:17really good it's really funny in what way does it TI to Dungeons and Dragons
- 45:21yeah it's it's it's set in it's literally set in the world of Dungeons
- 45:25and Dragons set in the Forgotten Realms of dungeons dragons like the you know
- 45:28never Winters in it and so so it's not like kids getting sucked into a game or
- 45:32anything like that however if you're familiar with that keep an eye out for
- 45:36an Easter egg later in the movie okay it's about it's about a
- 45:42Bard who is in prison and then busts out
- 45:47of prison and then wants to try and get his life back together and organizes a
- 45:52heist to get the money that's I'm trying to
- 45:57not a uh it's basically he movie it's a heist movie set in the world of Dungeons
- 46:02and Dragons and it's [ __ ] excellent it plays out like a game of Dungeons and
- 46:05Dragons where you've got like I I don't want to give things away great they've
- 46:09got these ridiculous characters this Paladin who's just [ __ ] good at
- 46:12everything and like Michelle Rodriguez plays a barbarian in it she's
- 46:18hilarious it's really good all right I will finish today and I will go and
- 46:25watch it yeah promise you you're going to laugh give it a watch you're going to
- 46:29laugh it's yeah I I can't I can't believe how good it was there's a fat
- 46:34dragon who just just like rolls after them because it like it's so funny all
- 46:40right I mean this does sound good I'll admit it does sound
- 46:44good yeah but is this the start of a potential franchise is that what they're
- 46:49trying to do cuz this is Dungeons and Dragons colon well who owns D dragons at
- 46:54the moment Wizards of the Coast Hasbro Hasbro but Hasbro is trying to
- 47:00make money at the moment so this I think they've always been
- 47:04trying making a ton of money no but I think there's there's a big push because
- 47:08remember they were trying to monetize some other other stuff as well I think
- 47:13based off that if they do another one they should do another one like this not
- 47:16necessarily with the same characters but like that the tone of this is great
- 47:22because it feels like watching people play dungeon R where it's just it's like
- 47:27just weird enough you know like people do weird [ __ ] in Dungeons and Dragons
- 47:30and it's got that and it's got but it's like high F it's like it's like tling
- 47:35but likeed talkling with idiots should have been the tagline I would have watched it
- 47:41if it was if it said that um you remember that French short film about
- 47:46those guys playing Dungeons and Dragons yes I do it's very yeah but I also watch
- 47:52Guardians 3 oh what I still haven't seen that okay well I won't I mean I won't
- 47:57spoil anything uh I thought Guardians 3 was good I didn't think it was as good
- 48:03as Guardians 1 no um and I didn't think
- 48:07two was as good as one I think it would be at the moment it's my least favorite
- 48:13of the Guardians movies it's still very good but then I remember that I didn't
- 48:17like two as much the first time it wasn't until I watched it the second
- 48:20time that I really appreciated it so I think maybe I should watch three
- 48:24again it's good about
- 48:28spoilers should I care about it for this no I don't no I don't okay it's not a
- 48:33huge amount to SPO I haven't been the one thing I quite liked about the movie
- 48:37is what the story relationship they have between quill and gamor that it's not
- 48:42just she's not in it she's not in it she's dead and it's not just that well
- 48:47you're quite you're kind of correct yeah cuz remember at the end of end game when
- 48:51they're sort of like making like no you do know him you get along and they're
- 48:54trying to make out that yes get together that's not the story quill is in love
- 48:59with her is goru is I have no idea who you are she's like I don't know you
- 49:05leave me alone yeah right and it's not about a story about them rekindling
- 49:09their love or anything it's uh he's a creep to her it's it's him like trying
- 49:14way too hard and her being like go away yeah like never you're too
- 49:21weird and I quite I quite like that that's how they took that storyline
- 49:25instead of no they got back she she remembered even though it's not he
- 49:30somehow unlocked yeah yeah I wondered if if they like James G knew he was going
- 49:37to do a bunch of these I wonder if he had this whole Arc story arc planned out
- 49:40and and they called him in for a meeting one day and they said all right so um
- 49:43this is this blah blah blah oh and gamorra dies in uh in another movie in
- 49:48Infinity War that's not a problem is it and he was like you [ __ ] yeah well I
- 49:53I I think that is something that happened I don't think he knew that
- 49:57Kamar was going to die that they would plainly kill her off yeah yeah that's I
- 50:02mean it works it's it's good he made it work man it's [ __ ] funny moments in
- 50:07this movie I got to say that's fun I want to watch it again I haven't I've
- 50:11only watched the once but I think it's it's worth re rewatch I think it's
- 50:14certainly it's definitely the weirdest I'm surprised they let him make this
- 50:18movie in in a lot of ways because it's very violent said that about each of
- 50:22them so far this one is this is not a kids movie really okay it's got like
- 50:27blood and and like violence and like it's dark as [ __ ] and I was like the
- 50:32bits where I was like is this a Marvel movie like I I wonder if this was them
- 50:36trying to get him to stay like will let you go a little bit further now it's
- 50:41super weird in Parts like in a good way I like but like I just yeah could like
- 50:47there's the I mean you've seen the trailer there's a planet that's like made
- 50:51of like meat almost it's like a like a like a I don't know how to describe it
- 50:57um it's like a biop planet almost it's so weird
- 51:02like yeah I'm in yeah okay I got to check this out actually I don't know why
- 51:07it's taking me this long to see it yeah because I'm streaming now it's it's it's
- 51:11it's a still a fun it's a fun movie yeah it's good oh here's a bit of trivia to
- 51:16link one movie to another that we can briefly mention the little girl
- 51:21in is it Infinity War where you see the young Gamora yeah have to turn away
- 51:28seeing her parents yeah the girl who plays her is the daughter in the Barbie
- 51:35movie really H okay yeah that's right you saw the Barbie movie didn't you I
- 51:41did do you mean Skipper or is this a different character I don't know
- 51:44anything about this movie I Skipper I I know sker relationship to Barbie
- 51:50pregnant what did you think of the Barbie
- 51:53movie I liked it it's fun isn't it it's very good got ran goling in it can't go
- 52:00wrong really can you he is [ __ ]
- 52:02hilarious y um uh s Li is in it oh yeah
- 52:08also is Ken also [ __ ] hilarious MH um
- 52:14I assume if you had Barbies you would get even more jokes and references than
- 52:20than I got cuz I didn't realize that all
- 52:24the because as if he had no I didn't have Barbies but I know people who have
- 52:28seen it who did and they go no they are barbiie they are characters okay they're
- 52:33all um and Alan oh my God Alan is the greatest character ever if you're going
- 52:40on YouTube and and and spouting hate for this movie I mean it's fine if you
- 52:45didn't like it but if you're spouting hate for this movie because you think
- 52:48it's anti-man or because then then you've just misunderstood you've just
- 52:54you haven't got it um it's not if you're threatened by this
- 52:58movie then you need to look at yourself really um it's great I cried it's very
- 53:05moving um thought there'd be more horses
- 53:08involved yeah I really once I found out the patriarchy wasn't about horses I
- 53:14kind of lost interest so good so good like it it's starts acting like it's
- 53:20going to be like political and then
- 53:24just then just makes a joke out of it's so good it's it's very good I gotta get
- 53:31I gotta go see Oppenheimer still and I got to go see I was going to go see this
- 53:34week but but you know I want to listen to the mie with both ears I'd say it's
- 53:38better than Oppenheimer would you say that Luke um honestly if I was going to
- 53:43watch one of them again I would watch Barbie again all right yeah oh Barbie
- 53:47you know what happens at the end did we talk about the fact that Christopher
- 53:49Nolan an wanted to speak directly to
- 53:52Luke and tell him he did yeah yeah he said he said there are people who tell
- 53:58me that the the ending of inception is
- 54:01um open to interpretation it's not yes because the point is not whether the top
- 54:08spins or doesn't spin it's the fact that he doesn't care anymore that's the
- 54:13ending well you're wrong okay also if that's what it is then I would know that
- 54:18I don't know that Leo Le character has stopped paying attention and he doesn't
- 54:23care anymore and that's what matters at that time
- 54:30he that he thought was dead yeah oh
- 54:34noid to do I get sh Island and Inception
- 54:38mixed up um I said definitely not Shad Island that was movie not the movie that
- 54:45I made I want to tell Luke the end is not ambiguous I the ending is not Shad
- 54:50Island yeah yeah that's right yeah let him know um I I I read something the
- 54:55other day too that blew my mind um the
- 54:58top is not his totem his totems is his
- 55:04wedding ring the scenes that are definitely real he has the wedding ring
- 55:08the scenes that maybe aren't he's not wearing it I never thought of that the
- 55:12totem is her totem which we know cuz he [ __ ] and he carries it with him because
- 55:17he says that he you know you're right but his totem is his wedding ring I'm
- 55:23going to watch that movie again okay I'm going to say one thing if you want make
- 55:26it clear that it was a choice you would have him have the top
- 55:33in his head look out at the children go spin it look at the children and then
- 55:38put the top down and then walk out yeah then turn to camera and say I'm going to
- 55:45spin this top but it's important that you the audience know I'm not going to
- 55:50check but say he doesn't have to spin the top he just goes puts the top down
- 55:55on its side and goes and it's like not checking just love
- 55:59there's all these YouTube videos of people going when a filmmaker trusts the
- 56:02audience and it's like and they don't mean
- 56:06Luke that's right yeah and you should to be clear you should cannot be trusted to
- 56:13understand your film to make up his own mind yeah no he tell me what I meant to
- 56:18think how should I be feeling about this yeah well it's like but he learned from
- 56:23that I think Nolan learned from that because Matt I don't want to give away
- 56:25too many spoilers but right in the end of Oppenheimer Killian Murphy turns to
- 56:28the camera and says and we bombed
- 56:33Japan did you see this um I mean this is it's funny but it's not funny I put this
- 56:39in here didn't I that Warner had to apologize to Japan for the Barbie poster
- 56:45yeah well they they didn't make this but they retweeted or liked a tweet where
- 56:49someone had made uh Barbie Heimer poster where it was I think it was Oppenheimer
- 56:54carrying Barbie or Barbie carrying oppen out of the atomic bomb or something like
- 56:59that and then the and then they that it got shared and people in Japan saw and
- 57:04then were like which I could sort of understand where like one oh this is a
- 57:08bit of fun but we youg get that op Hyer terrible it was because it said this
- 57:13summer is going to be explosive or something like that and they were like
- 57:16are you kidding me it's a touchy subject yeah I do think okay no no no I put this
- 57:21out there I put this out there when Japan starts teaching the true account
- 57:25of World War II two kids in schools then we'll start being about the bomb it got
- 57:30funnier because it's funny it's not funny but like people in Japan who were
- 57:34upset were going like how would you like it if we did this and they were
- 57:37photoshopping like Barbie and opim onto like the World Trade Center and stuff
- 57:41like that it was like that's not the same I was about I
- 57:47get where you're coming from but like you are being Ian it's a bit the same
- 57:51it'sit the same Oppenheimer didn't love the World Trade Center guys no but if
- 57:57Japan made a movie no if if Afghanistan made a movie about blowing up the but
- 58:02then that would be yeah yeah but I'm saying like yeah no I could I was about
- 58:07to say the Americans are probably not as sensitive as Japanese but no they are
- 58:10very sensitive no because people on Twitter were just like laughing going
- 58:14okay guys sorry we're not yeah because I think yeah because it
- 58:19was s making like like it was a terrible thing like even what Japan did what
- 58:23happened to them it was all terrible obviously and I think that got lost and
- 58:29so I can sort of see yeah I mean it got it got lost in the marketing they do
- 58:33address that in the movie yeah in the movie very clear there's a there's a
- 58:37part there's a part where Killian Murphy again no spoilers practically turns to
- 58:41camera and says I don't know if I should invent the bomb because it's going to
- 58:45kill people I mean if you watch the movie and you don't come away with that
- 58:50message then you you need to watch it again yes mhm oh it's ambiguous then it's
- 58:56ambiguous how my favorite part Luke of um Barbie and this is not a spoiler mat
- 59:01so I'm just going to I'm just going to put it in there is when Barbie goes I
- 59:03don't know if we should invent the bomb sort of sort of there's this part
- 59:08where Barbie you know that Barbie goes to the real world right you that's in the
- 59:14trailer her fake world starts fading away and there's this one point where
- 59:17she's like I don't feel pretty anymore and somebody goes you're really pretty
- 59:22and she's like yeah but I'm not like Barbie doll pretty and then the voice of
- 59:25Her goes the filmmakers acknowledge that casting Margot Robbie was not the best
- 59:30person to make this particular point I'd love
- 59:36that no no Matt you have to see the Barbie movie we now I going to choose I
- 59:41think you'll enjoy it yeah I'm sure I will I'm sure I will you guys have to
- 59:45watch Dungeons and Dragons yeah no I will definitely watch that well I can
- 59:48watch that for comfort of my own home that's that's the trick we would have we
- 59:52would have all watched all these movies if we didn't have to go to the cinema
- 59:54for I've gone to the cinema more this month than in the last three years
- 59:58combin I've seen three movies in the last few weeks I've been once and it
- 1:00:02still counts still still makes the great
- 1:00:05actually I've seen four I went two last week I'm not even gonna allow you space
- 1:00:12to talk about Meg too I don't want to yeah I'll say this Matt again not a
- 1:00:17spoiler but um if you're going to go and see Oppenheimer um leave aside some
- 1:00:22money it will make you want to buy a new hat yes it really will okay all right he
- 1:00:29wears a very nice hat he does and I need it and I don't have a hat like this it's
- 1:00:34the wider brim which I normally don't like but it's just like it's a normal
- 1:00:37Fedora but with a wide flat brim it's it's it's very nice I made one of those
- 1:00:42when we were in Paris I wonder if it's it's wrong color obviously mine's green
- 1:00:46but you trust me this is nicer than you want this exact it's not just his
- 1:00:53everyone's wearing nice hats true yeah but there's a lot of shots of him
- 1:00:57putting it on in slow motion too like while things are exploding behind
- 1:01:06him speaking of um directors we still got a little bit time left in the main
- 1:01:11show I think right speaking of famous directors I saw this article this week
- 1:01:16and I mean I've put a little tongue-in-cheek comment on this but it
- 1:01:19was reallyy wrong yeah no no rley Scott came out this week and said that he he
- 1:01:23kind of wishes that he had not done alien Covenant and that he had done
- 1:01:26Blade Runner 2049 instead and I just have to say I am so glad he didn't wait
- 1:01:31so you're saying that Blade Runner 2049 could have been as good as alien
- 1:01:37Covenant I I was like thinking did really SC watch the movie he made and
- 1:01:42then he watched the movie Den had made was like I wish I'd made that one yeah I
- 1:01:46bet you [ __ ] do mate I wish I'd made that movie a second viewing of alien
- 1:01:51covant I liked it a lot more than the first viewing okay but most because it
- 1:01:57wasn't the movie we were promised we were going to get no and by promised I
- 1:02:01mean the last scene of Prometheus where you saw them fly off on a ship we
- 1:02:05thought what Happ next it was supposed to be her and David's head in a bag
- 1:02:10having a correct yes no we skip a thousand years into the future yeah I
- 1:02:15even bought and read Alan Dean Foster's prequel novel to alien Covenant to find
- 1:02:21out what it is and it's just about that [ __ ] married couple boarding the ship
- 1:02:25I was I mean it was a good book but I was very
- 1:02:30disappointed no Ridley just stop yeah I
- 1:02:35I'm just I'm glad I'm I hate to say it but I'm glad he didn't I feel like he
- 1:02:40would have I mean maybe I don't know what's going on with him but I think
- 1:02:43he's just he's lost it did you read Shila Buff's comments this week about
- 1:02:47Steven Spielberg no buff doesn't care who hates him now cuz he has come out
- 1:02:53and said when you meet Steven Spielberg today well he said when he met Steven
- 1:02:58Spielberg he was disappointed he uses that word he was disappointed he said it
- 1:03:02wasn't like meeting a man it was like meeting a corporation and he says when
- 1:03:07you meet Steven Spielberg today it's not the Steven Spielberg you think of in
- 1:03:11your head he's not the the Raiders of the Lost Arc Jaws he he's not that guy
- 1:03:16anymore so if you meet him don't expect
- 1:03:19that huh but who has a
- 1:03:24job [Music] I'm sorry but what what's shy doing these
- 1:03:31days what is shy doing these days just fathering the child of that beautiful
- 1:03:36actress that he knocked up I guess Mia goth is it
- 1:03:40yeah because he have either of you knocked up Mia a goth no not recently I
- 1:03:47am very keen for Maxine oh that should be the tagline there probably
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