Latest / Moser, Lombardi and Kane / 2-13-26 Hour 2 - Broncos HOA Meeting/The Wall of Post-Its, Too Many Bike Lanes/Oh, By The Way...
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- 0:18Speaker 2: You said this was.
- 0:19Speaker 3: The preferred site. Are you willing to take the word
- 0:22Speaker 3: preferred off.
- 0:22Speaker 4: Of that not?
- 0:23Speaker 5: Yeah, we talked about that earlier. We really want to
- 0:26Speaker 5: respect the overall process. It's important to respect the city
- 0:30Speaker 5: Council's role in this, the Mayor's offices role in this,
- 0:34Speaker 5: the statec DOT, all these different entities, and also make
- 0:37Speaker 5: sure we get the right community input before we can
- 0:39Speaker 5: say this is actually where it's going to be.
- 0:41Speaker 3: Are there any progressions with SRM Concrete in terms of
- 0:44Speaker 3: working with them?
- 0:45Speaker 4: Where is that appen?
- 0:46Speaker 5: There are a variety of private real estate transactions that
- 0:50Speaker 5: we're trying to work on. Some of those have been
- 0:52Speaker 5: made public, but that's also probably why this is a
- 0:55Speaker 5: preferred site.
- 0:56Speaker 3: Is there a possibility this wouldn't be the site that
- 0:58Speaker 3: another site would Sylvia consent.
- 1:00Speaker 4: We're we are laser focused on delivering this sight.
- 1:04Speaker 6: That is DMAC or was d MAC yesterday talking to
- 1:09Speaker 6: Demani Leach about meetings and stadiums and Dmax and studio.
- 1:14Speaker 2: Now, Hello, Dmac's up, guys. VIC good to see a
- 1:16Speaker 2: la say how to your daughter? I will that's awesome.
- 1:19Speaker 2: That was a great story coming in. Yeah, it was
- 1:21Speaker 2: a La Alma rec center. You guys ever been.
- 1:25Speaker 4: Yeah no, oh yeah, yeah, my my oh yeah. My
- 1:29Speaker 4: brother has his studios right there. Okay, all right, yeah,
- 1:33Speaker 4: he has two studios right in that area. So I've
- 1:35Speaker 4: spent a lot of time in the Baker neighborhood, the
- 1:38Speaker 4: Lama neighborhood. I yeah, that place has undergone. It's been
- 1:44Speaker 4: a hell of a ride. Put it that way, I bet,
- 1:46Speaker 4: And for people that live in that area, I understand
- 1:48Speaker 4: your concern. I understand it might be a bit precarious
- 1:52Speaker 4: and situation me the way it unfolds. But I'm telling
- 1:56Speaker 4: you only good things will happen from the stadium being
- 1:59Speaker 4: put in there. All right.
- 2:00Speaker 2: I couldn't agree more for our neighborhood.
- 2:02Speaker 4: I don't understand why people are so tentative about this.
- 2:05Speaker 4: It's going to help your property value, it's going to
- 2:07Speaker 4: help clean the place up. If that's what you're aspiring
- 2:11Speaker 4: to get, this is going to get it for you.
- 2:13Speaker 2: They compared this Burnham Yard area in that neighborhood to
- 2:18Speaker 2: a donut hole. Well, if you take a peek at it,
- 2:21Speaker 2: I got another hole that you could actually call it,
- 2:24Speaker 2: but we'll stick with donut hole. Okay.
- 2:27Speaker 4: It is one of those areas in our city that
- 2:31Speaker 4: you know, every big city has this, So I'm not
- 2:33Speaker 4: trying to push the city on this. Every big city
- 2:36Speaker 4: is going to have areas like that, and you don't
- 2:38Speaker 4: want to sweep it under the rug. But if you're
- 2:40Speaker 4: going to put a structure like this this community stadium
- 2:44Speaker 4: and correct me if I'm wrong, Dmic you were there
- 2:47Speaker 4: last night, they're really spinning this as a community almost
- 2:49Speaker 4: like a community rec center.
- 2:51Speaker 2: They're basically chopping it up to what I would say
- 2:54Speaker 2: is five neighborhoods like North, the South, the stadium, and
- 2:59Speaker 2: an entertainment district and then sort of a sort of
- 3:02Speaker 2: a parking sort of area. They said they would still
- 3:05Speaker 2: have seven thousand parking spots, which is similar to what
- 3:08Speaker 2: empower Field has now. By the way, I was like, really,
- 3:12Speaker 2: because it doesn't work. Well that's what I said, but okay,
- 3:15Speaker 2: I'll just I'll sort of trust you on that. They're
- 3:18Speaker 2: gonna add two more light rail stops and hopefully one
- 3:20Speaker 2: of the light rail. They'll be like, you can go
- 3:23Speaker 2: underground because the light rail stop at tenth and oce Age.
- 3:26Speaker 2: It's a little dangerous, guys. I'm not gonna lie. It's
- 3:29Speaker 2: gonna it's gotta be one of the most narrow, small
- 3:32Speaker 2: like light I mean, they're gonna have to have a
- 3:34Speaker 2: massive expansion of that. And they specifically said, here's how
- 3:39Speaker 2: we're gonna design traffic flow, so only like five percent
- 3:44Speaker 2: of a traffic flow for any event would actually go
- 3:46Speaker 2: through the neighborhoods, and ninety five percent else would sort
- 3:49Speaker 2: of wash out basically north and west towards I twenty five.
- 3:53Speaker 4: Well, if you live in that area, outside that area
- 3:56Speaker 4: is where you're gonna get munch of the traffic. First
- 3:57Speaker 4: of all, thanks for joining us again, DMIC, because you
- 4:00Speaker 4: attended last night what had to be the largest ho
- 4:03Speaker 4: A meeting in color Dude.
- 4:06Speaker 2: It was insane. It was freaking packed. And it's a
- 4:10Speaker 2: rec center, so there was still like an old guy
- 4:13Speaker 2: in the gym doing a couple of you know whatever.
- 4:17Speaker 2: It was hysterical, right, exercise bikes. Yeah no, And it's
- 4:22Speaker 2: it's listen, man, it's your neighborhood. You should feel protective
- 4:27Speaker 2: about it. There's people that I'm sure Vick have been
- 4:30Speaker 2: there for generations. Yeah, let me tell you this, you'd
- 4:34Speaker 2: be insane to not want this project happening where it's
- 4:39Speaker 2: going on right now.
- 4:41Speaker 4: The only people you know, as well as I. If
- 4:45Speaker 4: people are being somewhat stand offish about it, they want
- 4:50Speaker 4: something and you know what that something is. Right. So
- 4:54Speaker 4: I've always said this, and listen, you you call me crazy,
- 4:58Speaker 4: call me a boomer, call me an antagonistic person. But
- 5:02Speaker 4: when you hear about these historical districts and all this
- 5:06Speaker 4: stuff in that area, they ain't nothing historical in that area.
- 5:10Speaker 4: Nobody ever ventures there unless you're doing crack.
- 5:13Speaker 6: I was just asking this INANELLI earlier. When this gets built,
- 5:16Speaker 6: is it still called Burnham Yard.
- 5:19Speaker 2: No, I it'd be cool if it was, because and
- 5:21Speaker 2: there is one building of his it's a dump now,
- 5:25Speaker 2: but there's one building. It's the locomotive shop. And there's
- 5:28Speaker 2: a hundred year old brick building where they used to
- 5:31Speaker 2: build locomotives and all the warehouse and.
- 5:33Speaker 4: That nobody cares. I'm telling my dad was in the
- 5:37Speaker 4: railroad business for years. I nobody cared to get that
- 5:40Speaker 4: out of it. No, well, there cares about the locomotive shop.
- 5:43Speaker 2: No, but like you understand, like in Camden Yards, it
- 5:46Speaker 2: used to be whatever it was there. So they're trying
- 5:48Speaker 2: to the Burnham Yard this locomotive shop. It goes a
- 5:52Speaker 2: long way in preserving. Now they're probably gonna turn it
- 5:55Speaker 2: into a beer hall, you know what I'm saying, you know,
- 5:57Speaker 2: but they they preserve the essence of So I think yes,
- 6:02Speaker 2: in terms of the name, I think they're going to
- 6:04Speaker 2: embrace that. They're going to embrace the neighborhood, that sort
- 6:08Speaker 2: of thing. Demani Leads did an extraordinary job presenting it,
- 6:11Speaker 2: and then a couple of nerds got up there and
- 6:13Speaker 2: they stumbled all over the place, you know, trying to
- 6:15Speaker 2: say what was going on?
- 6:16Speaker 6: Can I asked this too? Yeah, And I don't mean
- 6:18Speaker 6: this in any sort of negative way. It's just the
- 6:20Speaker 6: way the world works. They have these events, and I
- 6:23Speaker 6: think it's really smart to try and get community input
- 6:25Speaker 6: on stuff like that and make sure that people are
- 6:27Speaker 6: on board. You're trying to win their favor, right, Yes,
- 6:29Speaker 6: people are skeptical.
- 6:31Speaker 2: Do they really care what people think?
- 6:33Speaker 6: Because they're billionaires and they can just do what they want.
- 6:36Speaker 2: It's so funny. I'm so smart.
- 6:37Speaker 6: That they're doing this but doesn't really matter.
- 6:39Speaker 2: It was funny you say that because I was sawing
- 6:41Speaker 2: on one of the other muggles and I was like,
- 6:42Speaker 2: you know, Demani could have just got up here and
- 6:43Speaker 2: been like, we really don't care what people think. Thanks
- 6:47Speaker 2: for coming.
- 6:47Speaker 6: Here's exactly what we're going to do, and there's nothing
- 6:50Speaker 6: you can do to stop.
- 6:51Speaker 4: Let me tell you what they care. Can I take
- 6:53Speaker 4: a shot at this?
- 6:54Speaker 2: Oh okay, I know why they care, but.
- 6:56Speaker 4: Well they have to care because this is a joint
- 6:59Speaker 4: this is a partnership with the city, and the city
- 7:02Speaker 4: you know, your clientele is the citizens. So if if
- 7:06Speaker 4: you've got this big entity moving in and you're a
- 7:08Speaker 4: partner with the city, you better care because it's going
- 7:10Speaker 4: to affect the city.
- 7:11Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll tell you this. They are by far the
- 7:14Speaker 2: Broncos taking the hardest path with the highest upside, no
- 7:20Speaker 2: doubt about it, because this is so much more complicated
- 7:24Speaker 2: than if they were to just go down in an
- 7:26Speaker 2: empty space loan tree.
- 7:27Speaker 4: You're trying to still move the digging the loan tree.
- 7:29Speaker 4: Even the way you're not questioned the money, is this
- 7:31Speaker 4: your preferred you're trying Is there any chance you get
- 7:34Speaker 4: it in my neighborhood. I know what you're trying to do.
- 7:37Speaker 2: DA there's still I think the two takeaways it's still
- 7:40Speaker 2: the preferred site, not not a done deal. It is,
- 7:45Speaker 2: they're still using the word preferred victory are.
- 7:49Speaker 4: It's done. It's been done. I told you, did I
- 7:53Speaker 4: not tell you six months ago? It's done? Yeah? Well
- 7:56Speaker 4: then why I told you?
- 7:57Speaker 2: Why don't they take preferred off of it?
- 7:58Speaker 4: Because because there's still some legal wrangling. You know what.
- 8:04Speaker 4: You know what that legal wrangling is. You know what
- 8:06Speaker 4: it is. Listen, I'm not gonna pay you this ridiculous
- 8:10Speaker 4: amount of money for what you claim to be an
- 8:12Speaker 4: historic fire hedrant. That's what it is.
- 8:16Speaker 2: That's not their biggest Uh. You're you're having fun with it.
- 8:19Speaker 2: But they have to get the people on their side
- 8:20Speaker 2: because it it would only take a small contingtion to
- 8:22Speaker 2: people to really hang this thing up to protest it whatever.
- 8:26Speaker 2: The other thing they gotta deal with is this huge
- 8:28Speaker 2: concrete company. And as I'm leaving the rec center, I
- 8:32Speaker 2: made sure Wally got you know, his his bench in.
- 8:35Speaker 2: I look through the buildings and I'm like, blamo, Like
- 8:39Speaker 2: I've never seen SRM concrete so openly in my life.
- 8:43Speaker 2: And I mean they're talking about not making it sky
- 8:47Speaker 2: high rises when they do buildings maybe like five six stories,
- 8:50Speaker 2: so it's not over like two hundred feet. This concrete company,
- 8:54Speaker 2: do you guys know what it makes takes to make concrete,
- 8:56Speaker 2: I guess. I mean we got to have big, huge
- 8:58Speaker 2: towers and shoots and trucks and like all sorts of stuff.
- 9:02Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a very simple message to the concrete company
- 9:06Speaker 4: and going to straight Vito Corleone here, Hey, we're building
- 9:10Speaker 4: this large concrete arena stadium. We might need some concrete.
- 9:15Speaker 4: Do you think about moving your concrete company.
- 9:17Speaker 2: It's not that simple because the way that I mean
- 9:19Speaker 2: it kind of is that simple, and it's not. Their
- 9:22Speaker 2: company is quick Dry Concrete, so they have to be
- 9:24Speaker 2: stationed within like ninety minutes of their next sort of plant.
- 9:28Speaker 2: And they've got hundreds of plants throughout the United States
- 9:31Speaker 2: and from Tennessee, so it's not there. They're worth hundreds
- 9:34Speaker 2: of millions of dollars, this company. It's the biggest quick
- 9:37Speaker 2: dry concrete company in the in the in the country.
- 9:41Speaker 2: I'm just telling you what it is, bro. And they
- 9:44Speaker 2: they've got to be able to move them to a
- 9:47Speaker 2: different location, Vic, You understand me. They it's not just
- 9:50Speaker 2: buying them out. They've got to move a concrete company
- 9:53Speaker 2: somewhere close.
- 9:54Speaker 4: Plenty of room in Commerce City in West ar Veticy.
- 9:57Speaker 2: You're missing the point.
- 9:58Speaker 4: They've got to be within in a No new concrete
- 10:01Speaker 4: company standing in the way. Whatever. Yeah, have fun with that. Okay,
- 10:04Speaker 4: I got another thing I want to bring up. Listen,
- 10:06Speaker 4: just because you went to the world's largest HOA meeting
- 10:09Speaker 4: doesn't suddenly mean that they can't get this done. And
- 10:11Speaker 4: it's funny because it is an HOA meeting, But I
- 10:13Speaker 4: want to bring this up. So this is this whole
- 10:16Speaker 4: project is running parallel to the project that's happening at
- 10:21Speaker 4: Ball Arena, the Ball Redevelopment project, all right, and so
- 10:25Speaker 4: both areas, both areas of downtown, which is going to
- 10:28Speaker 4: reconfigure the whole downtown area. Is going to change the
- 10:32Speaker 4: footprint of Denver, it's going to change the shape of Denver.
- 10:35Speaker 4: It's going to change everything. And the one constant I've noticed,
- 10:38Speaker 4: the one consistency with both projects is this they don't
- 10:42Speaker 4: want many cars going through there.
- 10:43Speaker 2: Oh, that's for sure.
- 10:44Speaker 4: The Ball Redevelopment project. If you see the final effects
- 10:50Speaker 4: they want public transport, they want walking, they want they
- 10:53Speaker 4: want you to park afar and sort of walk through there.
- 10:56Speaker 4: And with this this stadium, it's the same concept. And
- 11:00Speaker 4: I think that comes that's a city trigger that the
- 11:03Speaker 4: city wants that, and it's sort of a way that
- 11:06Speaker 4: the city is acquiescing to these professional sports teams. We'll
- 11:11Speaker 4: give you the space and the room, but we don't
- 11:14Speaker 4: want all those cars here.
- 11:16Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you're absolutely right. Additional lightrail stops for
- 11:20Speaker 2: bicyclings of cycling lanes all over the place, pedestrian walkways,
- 11:24Speaker 2: that was another big target. You wouldn't want to drive
- 11:27Speaker 2: your car down to this place. I mean it would,
- 11:30Speaker 2: let's face it, it'd be a nightmare coming and going. Yeah,
- 11:33Speaker 2: it'd be way easier. And by the way, if you
- 11:35Speaker 2: don't know where the light rail stop is now for
- 11:37Speaker 2: Empower Field, it's actually quite a distance from the light
- 11:40Speaker 2: rail stop to the stadium. It's a little bit of
- 11:43Speaker 2: a walk. Not this bit, bad boy. This is like
- 11:45Speaker 2: you're at the light rail, you walk off, you're at
- 11:48Speaker 2: the stadium. You're in the entertainment district of Burnham Yard. Like,
- 11:51Speaker 2: it's cool as hell. If they can get this.
- 11:53Speaker 6: Done, like the stop that you have right outside of Ball,
- 11:56Speaker 6: like basically like that.
- 11:57Speaker 2: It'd be like that. It'd be way more similar to that. Now,
- 11:59Speaker 2: if you get off at the light rail for Empower Field,
- 12:01Speaker 2: you gotta go under an aqueduct, you gotta go through
- 12:03Speaker 2: guys playing drums on buckets, you gotta go through. There's
- 12:06Speaker 2: trains that could be passing through. There's traffic, there's petty
- 12:09Speaker 2: cabs going all over the place. This isn't like that
- 12:12Speaker 2: at all. You just it's just like Ball. You'd walk
- 12:14Speaker 2: right off and you'd be right there.
- 12:16Speaker 4: So you know what. The the traffic inside the area, Okay,
- 12:19Speaker 4: they want to sort of diminish that, that's fine. But
- 12:22Speaker 4: if you're pushing traffic, the traffic along I twenty five
- 12:25Speaker 4: sixth Avenue, that's gonna be insane.
- 12:28Speaker 2: It's gonna be insane. There's nothing you can do about it.
- 12:30Speaker 2: I mean, well, what are you going to do about it.
- 12:32Speaker 2: It's it's like you're you got to like a border.
- 12:34Speaker 2: You got I twenty five and then like three roads
- 12:36Speaker 2: that go to I twenty five.
- 12:38Speaker 6: I mean, it's not like it's a walk in the park.
- 12:40Speaker 2: If you're driving to the stadium now.
- 12:42Speaker 4: Correct, correct, No matter where you put it, you're gonna.
- 12:44Speaker 2: Get that correct. I mean, what's the joy now going
- 12:46Speaker 2: down Federal Boulevard. I mean, you know, game days are
- 12:49Speaker 2: just game days. They're a mess, and you know what,
- 12:51Speaker 2: just to keep it real. As much as we all
- 12:54Speaker 2: love the BRONC goes, it's not a great tailgating history here.
- 12:57Speaker 2: I mean it's I'm not saying it doesn't exist, do it.
- 13:00Speaker 2: But we're not like Buffalo or these other places where
- 13:03Speaker 2: you have these massive, flat, open parking spots. It's like
- 13:07Speaker 2: college sort of stuff. It ain't like that. So if
- 13:10Speaker 2: you want that, if you want that, then you want
- 13:14Speaker 2: loan Tree because that's what you can get out there.
- 13:16Speaker 2: But this is in the city, by the way, Victor,
- 13:18Speaker 2: your point, this is a new city between Ballerina and this.
- 13:22Speaker 2: Good luck Lodo by the way, because this is your
- 13:26Speaker 2: new downtown, Tamper.
- 13:27Speaker 4: Twenty five years from now, if and you and I
- 13:30Speaker 4: will both be underneath the ground.
- 13:33Speaker 2: Really really seriously, Okay, I go.
- 13:36Speaker 4: Ahead, imagine twenty five years from now overlooking the downtown
- 13:41Speaker 4: area and seeing how different it is. Because you're exactly right,
- 13:45Speaker 4: it's going to shift to the southwest. Yes, Downtown's shifting.
- 13:49Speaker 4: Basically reconfiguring to the southwest.
- 13:51Speaker 2: How do you feel about that?
- 13:54Speaker 4: I think growth is great. I think any any city
- 13:56Speaker 4: undergoes change. Any city, I mean, especially if you're aspiring
- 13:59Speaker 4: to to survive and aspiring to the visionaries of the city,
- 14:03Speaker 4: you gotta grow otherwise you'll become Detroit.
- 14:07Speaker 2: Yeah, you know Atlanta. You know what city did this? Atlanta?
- 14:10Speaker 2: Because when they built Centennial Park for the Olympics and
- 14:13Speaker 2: they built Mercedes Benz in the CNN, that's all away
- 14:17Speaker 2: from downtown. Yeah, but they just built a new downtown.
- 14:20Speaker 2: It's just like, oh, well, we'll be different, we'll do
- 14:23Speaker 2: Detroit did the same thing.
- 14:24Speaker 6: The Detroit build a brand new downtown where I mean
- 14:27Speaker 6: the outskirts of Detroit are it's Detroit, but they're downtown now.
- 14:30Speaker 6: Is actually nice because they moved everything centrally located inside it.
- 14:34Speaker 2: By the way, all the NFL teams are going to
- 14:35Speaker 2: the suburbs. The Walton peer group, I tip my cap
- 14:38Speaker 2: to them. The essence of being their surveys must have
- 14:41Speaker 2: revealed the essence of being The Denver Broncos is having
- 14:43Speaker 2: Denver as part of it.
- 14:44Speaker 6: Yeah, and Boyle Boys Arlington Heights Bears doesn't do it
- 14:47Speaker 6: for you.
- 14:48Speaker 2: I mean, keep going where the Brown's going. The bills
- 14:51Speaker 2: are already out in Orchard Park always because it's easier, guys,
- 14:55Speaker 2: it's so much easier just to go out to the
- 14:57Speaker 2: suburbs where there's open space. Santa Claara forty nine, baby,
- 15:01Speaker 2: they already did it right from Campso.
- 15:03Speaker 4: That's ridiculous, having having been there for the when they
- 15:06Speaker 4: showed the shots at the Super Bowl Golden gate Bridge,
- 15:09Speaker 4: the Bay Bridge, Yeah, it's an hour and a half away.
- 15:11Speaker 2: An is two things real quick? Number One.
- 15:14Speaker 6: I was just I have women's skeleton on the TV
- 15:18Speaker 6: right now.
- 15:19Speaker 2: Would you be.
- 15:19Speaker 6: Surprised to know that Nicole Rocha Silvera competed in the
- 15:23Speaker 6: women's skeleton.
- 15:24Speaker 2: Who's a Brazilian for what country?
- 15:28Speaker 4: No?
- 15:28Speaker 2: Brazil?
- 15:29Speaker 4: Oh?
- 15:30Speaker 2: No, like Brazil was in skeleton.
- 15:31Speaker 6: I was like, look, I don't know a lot about Brazil.
- 15:34Speaker 2: I don't think it gets very cold there. Maybe I'm wrong.
- 15:36Speaker 4: Jamaica has a poplit team.
- 15:38Speaker 2: I mean, not to be a jerk, but like, how
- 15:41Speaker 2: much time in the ice do you need to just
- 15:42Speaker 2: lay down and go down downhill? I was thinking about
- 15:46Speaker 2: do you have to grow up on eyes to lie
- 15:48Speaker 2: on the sled and go straight? Down the hill or
- 15:50Speaker 2: can you learn that in about two minutes?
- 15:51Speaker 6: So it's mostly just the initial push and then steering.
- 15:54Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, do you really have to grow up
- 15:56Speaker 2: in a cold climate to do that?
- 15:58Speaker 4: I guess you're right, Max, if you and I were
- 16:01Speaker 4: to engage in the two man looge, Yeah, what does
- 16:05Speaker 4: the bottom guy do as opposed to the top guy?
- 16:07Speaker 2: I think I think he's just heavier.
- 16:11Speaker 4: So the bottom guy's heavier than the top guy.
- 16:14Speaker 6: Well, you can't have the bigger guy on top of
- 16:15Speaker 6: the smaller guy.
- 16:16Speaker 2: They can't happen. Well, I thought the bottom guy steered,
- 16:19Speaker 2: but then I watch it. The bottom guy has no
- 16:21Speaker 2: idea what the sweet is going? How you steering? How
- 16:23Speaker 2: you can't see The bottom guy can't see anything. So
- 16:27Speaker 2: it's the top guy that's steering. This one's bouncing off
- 16:30Speaker 2: the walls like a ping pong ball. That's the scale,
- 16:32Speaker 2: that's the head first.
- 16:33Speaker 7: So with the doubles lose, I think the person on
- 16:35Speaker 7: the bottom is usually smaller because they fit the sled better,
- 16:38Speaker 7: and then the person on top. If you notice their
- 16:40Speaker 7: legs are hanging over and they're hooked into those stirrups,
- 16:42Speaker 7: I think those can affect yea, the trajectory of the
- 16:45Speaker 7: blades that you're skating on.
- 16:47Speaker 2: By the way, why is there no mixed doubles lose?
- 16:50Speaker 4: I've been calling for that for years.
- 16:53Speaker 6: By the way, one of my favorite things about what
- 16:56Speaker 6: you attended last night is they had that sticky noteboard
- 16:59Speaker 6: right of their.
- 17:00Speaker 2: Suggestions or did zero in on something?
- 17:05Speaker 4: People like what just sort of like a suggestion box?
- 17:08Speaker 4: Is that what they were? Uh?
- 17:10Speaker 2: Yeah, so what they had?
- 17:11Speaker 6: How about this? We'll do a couple of these in
- 17:13Speaker 6: just a second when we come back. All right, so
- 17:14Speaker 6: the imagine to stick around for one more segment here.
- 17:16Speaker 6: I didn't want to get to some of these post
- 17:18Speaker 6: it notes that were on there.
- 17:19Speaker 2: Should I describe what the So the scene was at
- 17:22Speaker 2: the Alma Rec Center. They had big board at least
- 17:26Speaker 2: somebody at each board to explain the development, which was
- 17:29Speaker 2: really cool. So anybody could have just walked around and said, Okay,
- 17:33Speaker 2: what's this, what's that, what's the other thing. But they
- 17:35Speaker 2: also had a couple of big boards with just stickies
- 17:37Speaker 2: and you could write whatever you wanted on a sticky
- 17:40Speaker 2: note in terms of questions or suggestions or whatever.
- 17:44Speaker 4: They didn't be right, Hey, take the field goal in
- 17:47Speaker 4: a situation.
- 17:48Speaker 2: It was. It was pretty funny what people's concerns were
- 17:52Speaker 2: and what they had to say. They also did a
- 17:54Speaker 2: live q and A where you had a QR code
- 17:56Speaker 2: and they put questions up and you could respond in
- 17:58Speaker 2: real time. They would put a question up and that
- 18:01Speaker 2: you could see comments, like like it was a stream
- 18:03Speaker 2: or something. You could see comments and questions as it
- 18:06Speaker 2: was going on, like a little kind of a high
- 18:09Speaker 2: text sort of ha presentation meeting. But the stickies are
- 18:12Speaker 2: kind of, you know, a little old fashioned, but go ahead.
- 18:14Speaker 2: That's that's what those were.
- 18:15Speaker 4: Oh sorry, meetings are about like women in the cul
- 18:19Speaker 4: de sac hating each other.
- 18:20Speaker 6: Wow, there's a little bit of that here, So hang
- 18:22Speaker 6: on a second. These were like just some of the
- 18:26Speaker 6: sticky notes on here. So you had a lot of
- 18:29Speaker 6: these emphasis on bike and pedestrian safety.
- 18:32Speaker 2: Yes, I love this one. Isn't this what Parker is for?
- 18:40Speaker 6: Somebody said, uh, use the space for people in this community,
- 18:46Speaker 6: not only people who can afford tickets.
- 18:48Speaker 2: No stadium.
- 18:50Speaker 4: Here's one.
- 18:50Speaker 2: This is my favorite trees. Trees, trees.
- 18:55Speaker 6: Somebody wanted a lot of trees, I guess around that stadium.
- 18:57Speaker 2: My favorite one, my favorite one is an older gentleman
- 19:01Speaker 2: and Vic you would probably know this better than anybody.
- 19:04Speaker 2: That's what it looks like. Yeah, but at some point
- 19:06Speaker 2: the Broncos probably did some sort of fundraiser where you
- 19:10Speaker 2: could buy a brick, you know, that sort of concept. Sure,
- 19:13Speaker 2: and this older gentleman came older than you, much older,
- 19:18Speaker 2: came up and you got to understand, it is packed
- 19:20Speaker 2: in there, and there's like one hundred media people around
- 19:23Speaker 2: Bonnie Leitch, you know, for the whatever. This old guy
- 19:26Speaker 2: just comes up to him, like in the middle of
- 19:28Speaker 2: all the media people and like tugs on his elbow
- 19:31Speaker 2: a little bit and goes, are you gonna move the bricks?
- 19:35Speaker 2: So he probably bought a brick, oh back at like
- 19:38Speaker 2: sixty five for like ten bucks. So we're talking about
- 19:41Speaker 2: this multi billion dollar whatever, and he's worried about his
- 19:45Speaker 2: ten dollars brick being.
- 19:46Speaker 4: More well, things we don't think about, right, you paid
- 19:48Speaker 4: for that brick? You want you want your return on
- 19:51Speaker 4: investment exactly. Somebody on the tech side says, gosh, you
- 19:54Speaker 4: guys are so negative about the new stadium. What do
- 19:56Speaker 4: you talk negative? Negative?
- 19:58Speaker 2: I've just gonna be amazing.
- 19:59Speaker 4: I've been promote vading this site. I've been campaigning essentially
- 20:03Speaker 4: for this since the since it.
- 20:05Speaker 2: Was first brought up that we said, this is going
- 20:08Speaker 2: to be a brand new Denver. We said, you'd be
- 20:10Speaker 2: insane if you were in the area, if you didn't
- 20:12Speaker 2: want it.
- 20:12Speaker 4: Yeah, just hear what you want to hear.
- 20:15Speaker 2: I guess and what we said this is keeping the
- 20:18Speaker 2: Broncos literally in Denver. How is this negative?
- 20:21Speaker 4: Now now you brought up something, we can go down
- 20:25Speaker 4: this road. You know, I'm a cyclist. We've ridden together.
- 20:30Speaker 4: Yes we have Jesse. I like kicking my ass by
- 20:33Speaker 4: the way, but I just love riding my bike. It's
- 20:36Speaker 4: it's a it's a therapeutic thing. This push that Denver
- 20:40Speaker 4: has for this bike lane CREP is gone beyond propose.
- 20:43Speaker 2: Wait, wait, what's going on?
- 20:45Speaker 4: Everything's got to be a bike I'm in a hurry.
- 20:48Speaker 4: I gotta get to the game. Get the hell out
- 20:49Speaker 4: of my way. With all the bikes. We don't live
- 20:51Speaker 4: in Amsterdam, all these bikes we don't live. You have
- 20:57Speaker 4: to understand where you live. This is an expansive city.
- 21:00Speaker 4: People are driving from Colorado Springs for Collins Brighton. We
- 21:05Speaker 4: to make this. Oh, we gotta preserve our bike lanes.
- 21:08Speaker 4: You know what sometimes bikes don't belong in certain areas,
- 21:13Speaker 4: and I don't understand this push everything's got to be
- 21:17Speaker 4: a bike lane. I understand I love riding my bike,
- 21:21Speaker 4: but I don't love riding my bike in the middle
- 21:23Speaker 4: of traffic. That's stupid to me. I don't even know
- 21:26Speaker 4: if you've never understood what.
- 21:27Speaker 2: Are you talking about? Like what what's there's some sort
- 21:30Speaker 2: of city initiative that's pissing you off.
- 21:32Speaker 4: He just read the note from one of the bike
- 21:35Speaker 4: crazisre's a bunch of the bike bike crazy. Yeah, keep
- 21:38Speaker 4: the bike lanes. Yeah yeah, because on game day when
- 21:41Speaker 4: there are seventy thousand people trying to get to the game.
- 21:44Speaker 4: Oh excuse me, we have two people on a unicycle.
- 21:47Speaker 4: That gotta get them first the hell out of the way.
- 21:49Speaker 6: What are the big wheeled ones, the big front wheeled
- 21:52Speaker 6: bicycle the guys with the mustache, is those uh chopper bikes?
- 21:55Speaker 6: I kind of agree, No, no, no, I'm talking about like
- 21:58Speaker 6: the old school black and like photo giants with the.
- 22:03Speaker 4: Yeah yeah again. And this comes from a I'm a cyclist. Yeah,
- 22:08Speaker 4: but you're not going these cyclists take it too far.
- 22:10Speaker 2: But here you're you're like a you're like a rain
- 22:13Speaker 2: man cyclist. You leave your house, you cycle to one place,
- 22:16Speaker 2: and you cycle back. You don't go anywhere else, not really, but.
- 22:19Speaker 4: The city's not designed for that.
- 22:21Speaker 2: But what was the last time you ever cycled into
- 22:23Speaker 2: the city? Do you want me to ride my bike
- 22:25Speaker 2: to work? Yes, you can easily do it easily.
- 22:28Speaker 4: I can't hunt I can ride my bike to work,
- 22:30Speaker 4: I mean, depending how fit you are.
- 22:32Speaker 2: But you can take the four to seventy path directly
- 22:34Speaker 2: to work. Well, okay, so the four to seventy path
- 22:37Speaker 2: is in behind the building.
- 22:38Speaker 4: So so if I were to go to the studio
- 22:40Speaker 4: to do my radio showing bike to work, what time
- 22:42Speaker 4: do you think I'd have to leave in the morning?
- 22:43Speaker 4: How would that work out?
- 22:44Speaker 2: How long does it take you to get to the
- 22:45Speaker 2: four seventy path from your house ten minutes on a bike?
- 22:50Speaker 4: Yeah?
- 22:50Speaker 2: Yes? No? Oh okay, so it take you probably an
- 22:54Speaker 2: hour and fifteen minutes to get here to work.
- 22:56Speaker 4: So I would have to leave my house at around
- 22:58Speaker 4: five am. Yeah, in the snowshoe guys, we had snow.
- 23:04Speaker 4: You are so bike people are crazy? Yes, I'm gonna
- 23:08Speaker 4: ride my bike from Golden to work because bike freak
- 23:13Speaker 4: over here things. It's I don't need you to easily
- 23:16Speaker 4: do it. There's the dumbest thing I've ever heard in
- 23:18Speaker 4: my life.
- 23:18Speaker 2: Everybody knows we had ninety minutes of snow this entire winter,
- 23:21Speaker 2: and we know what it was, and that was it,
- 23:24Speaker 2: and there's no you're crazy. It's like, there's no snow
- 23:27Speaker 2: for seventy Bath's gorgeous, there's no traffic. You'd cruise all
- 23:31Speaker 2: the way. We should do it.
- 23:32Speaker 4: So after after I do my original, I gotta go
- 23:34Speaker 4: do television. Where do I keep my do I just
- 23:35Speaker 4: have a suit with me? Where do I shower? My Lord?
- 23:38Speaker 4: My briefcase? You do TV?
- 23:40Speaker 2: You do TV every day? Hey, listen, let's it just.
- 23:44Speaker 4: Makes no sense you people again, we don't live in Amsterdam.
- 23:47Speaker 4: We live in Denver. Cars are a necessity in Denver.
- 23:51Speaker 4: Stop pushing this bike thing. I like to bike for exercise.
- 23:56Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, fancy something else?
- 24:00Speaker 4: Okay.
- 24:01Speaker 2: If you're in charge, there were free burritos last night
- 24:03Speaker 2: and free waters. It's nice.
- 24:07Speaker 6: If you were in charge of the Broncos. You're George Payton,
- 24:10Speaker 6: wh's your first move?
- 24:12Speaker 3: Uh?
- 24:12Speaker 2: Bresaw, I don't care spend the money getting the running
- 24:14Speaker 2: back and let's go. The window is small, and I
- 24:17Speaker 2: don't care if you only have him for two years,
- 24:18Speaker 2: it doesn't matter. There's this is not time to develop,
- 24:21Speaker 2: It's time to win. I get Bresaw.
- 24:24Speaker 6: That's literally I said, I think the best GM in
- 24:27Speaker 6: the NFL is Howie Roseman. And look, they have the
- 24:30Speaker 6: most talented roster. But part of the reason is, yes,
- 24:32Speaker 6: he's very good at identifying talent drafting.
- 24:35Speaker 2: It like he always takes a stud in the first round,
- 24:37Speaker 2: no matter whether they're drafting.
- 24:39Speaker 6: But he's also the guy that's like, he's available, here's
- 24:42Speaker 6: the third rounder.
- 24:43Speaker 2: I'll take it. Oh, this guy's available.
- 24:44Speaker 6: All right, here's free agency money.
- 24:46Speaker 2: Try what are we trying to do?
- 24:47Speaker 6: Like, you're at a point right now, in the next
- 24:49Speaker 6: three years the most important because it's before Bow's gonna
- 24:51Speaker 6: get do whatever you need to do to buy whatever
- 24:56Speaker 6: you need to buy.
- 24:57Speaker 2: Gret, you are so right, because in three years you're
- 24:59Speaker 2: gonna have to reinvent the team.
- 25:00Speaker 4: Yep.
- 25:01Speaker 6: Period Like now's the time yep. And and to their credit,
- 25:04Speaker 6: and this is why I have such immense respect for
- 25:07Speaker 6: George Peyton. I think I think he's the top five
- 25:09Speaker 6: GM in the league.
- 25:10Speaker 2: I really do.
- 25:11Speaker 6: And the worst things that he did were incredibly bad, right,
- 25:15Speaker 6: the Hacket Higher. I still maintains hiring Hackett is the
- 25:19Speaker 6: worst thing he did. It's not the Russell contract because
- 25:21Speaker 6: I can't. I can't fault him for trading and giving
- 25:24Speaker 6: Russell contract when everybody would have done the same thing.
- 25:26Speaker 2: Who hired Hackett? Peyton Peyton?
- 25:29Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I don't know if that was necessarily the case.
- 25:31Speaker 2: Well, it was a play to get Rogers, so.
- 25:33Speaker 4: Well he was. I mean, look, I don't I don't
- 25:35Speaker 4: know if George Peyton's he's in the seat though, he's
- 25:38Speaker 4: in the seat, so he's gonna have to take some
- 25:40Speaker 4: arrows for well, hold on, who else would it have been? Vic? Well,
- 25:42Speaker 4: remember that whole process was taking place before the team
- 25:45Speaker 4: was sold.
- 25:46Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, there was a weird crossover where Elway
- 25:48Speaker 2: was like the consultant and Peyton was the GM.
- 25:52Speaker 4: There was there was there was an era there. It
- 25:54Speaker 4: was about a year and a half crossover where the
- 25:56Speaker 4: old regime was still running the show to get ready
- 25:59Speaker 4: for the new regime. And I don't know what kind
- 26:02Speaker 4: of hand George played in that.
- 26:04Speaker 6: Higher Well, you could regardless of it, like what he
- 26:07Speaker 6: has done and this is why I have a lot
- 26:10Speaker 6: of respect for him. Does he have missus, Sure, so
- 26:12Speaker 6: does every GM in the league. But what he's been
- 26:15Speaker 6: able to do with the little amount of things that
- 26:17Speaker 6: he's had, which is no draft capital for like three
- 26:20Speaker 6: straight years at least prime time draft capital. And he's
- 26:23Speaker 6: found in all Pro and Nick Benito. He's found an
- 26:26Speaker 6: All Pro and Quinn minors. He's found Jonathan Cooper in
- 26:29Speaker 6: the seventh round. He's done all of that. Now he's
- 26:32Speaker 6: actually got a full deck, and it's like, let's see
- 26:36Speaker 6: what you can do.
- 26:36Speaker 4: Now.
- 26:37Speaker 2: Do you think with with George Payton, without Sean Payton,
- 26:40Speaker 2: they would have drafted Bo Nicks. I don't know.
- 26:44Speaker 4: I really, I don't think so.
- 26:45Speaker 2: I don't think so either.
- 26:46Speaker 4: I don't think so no that that that draft pick
- 26:49Speaker 4: was made because Sean Payton fell in love with that question.
- 26:52Speaker 2: And don't forget Sean Payton was the third choice. It
- 26:54Speaker 2: was Demani Leach, it was Jim Harbaugh, and then it
- 26:57Speaker 2: was Sean Payton.
- 26:58Speaker 4: So yeah, you see, And that's where you and I
- 27:01Speaker 4: differ on how decisions are made. You seem to think
- 27:05Speaker 4: that the GM makes every decision when it comes to
- 27:07Speaker 4: draft picks. I think coaches have a bigger say than
- 27:10Speaker 4: you think. If a coach won't coach them up, what
- 27:12Speaker 4: good does it?
- 27:13Speaker 2: It depends on the coach.
- 27:14Speaker 6: Sean Payn's not grinding college film, no, But you're right.
- 27:18Speaker 2: So I think Sean cares about the first couple of
- 27:20Speaker 2: rounds and after that it's like, go do your match.
- 27:24Speaker 6: But you're basically outside of Like, look, man, when you're
- 27:27Speaker 6: picking thirtieth, I don't know how many guys Sean Payton
- 27:30Speaker 6: knows that are gonna be on the thirtieth spot. So's
- 27:32Speaker 6: he's being brought this.
- 27:33Speaker 2: I bet Sean Paynon had say on Pat Bryant, RJ. Harvey,
- 27:38Speaker 2: and I think he actually did have say on oh
- 27:42Speaker 2: or John de Baron, which was just a mistake, I know.
- 27:45Speaker 6: But George Peyton is bringing him those guys. It's gotta
- 27:48Speaker 6: be what's happened. Yeah, But I'm evaluating the tape saying like,
- 27:50Speaker 6: I like these guys.
- 27:51Speaker 2: Now you can take a look. You think Sean Payton
- 27:53Speaker 2: was like, hey man, you guys got to check out
- 27:54Speaker 2: Kean Robinson and save me on Jones. What I'm saying like,
- 27:57Speaker 2: he's not doing that.
- 27:58Speaker 4: He's not doing that.
- 27:59Speaker 2: He's got too much stuff on played alrighty, But the
- 28:00Speaker 2: most important thing Sean Payton did was insist bo Nicks
- 28:03Speaker 2: was their guy. True. It's the most important decision in
- 28:06Speaker 2: Broncos history of.
- 28:07Speaker 6: Late I need Sean. I actually looked this up. The
- 28:12Speaker 6: last sixteen first rounders that Sean had. He's only taken
- 28:14Speaker 6: three skill position players, Is that right?
- 28:16Speaker 4: Bo Nix?
- 28:17Speaker 2: Who else?
- 28:17Speaker 6: Brandon Cooks? Mark ingram So he's got a really good
- 28:20Speaker 6: hit rate on it. He just never does it. He
- 28:22Speaker 6: drafts defense in lineman.
- 28:24Speaker 4: That's what he does.
- 28:24Speaker 2: It's gonna be defense this year too. It's gonna be
- 28:27Speaker 2: I feel like it. It's gonna Although I saw that
- 28:30Speaker 2: that Kenyon, that Kenyan Sequeed guy from Oregon. Sorry, oh man,
- 28:37Speaker 2: he's hugely He's huge. It looks good in the gym.
- 28:41Speaker 4: One more thing about the bike stuff. People keep texting
- 28:47Speaker 4: about how you can't. Hey, old man, Vic, it's the future.
- 28:50Speaker 4: You know what you people that. I respect everyone's wants
- 28:54Speaker 4: and desires, but you can't be everything in the city.
- 28:57Speaker 4: You have to make your mind up of what you are.
- 28:58Speaker 4: You can combine some things. You can't turn Denver into
- 29:02Speaker 4: a bike city. It's too big.
- 29:03Speaker 2: Okay, you're peeing into the wind here, bro, what do
- 29:07Speaker 2: you mean by that it's going to become a bike
- 29:09Speaker 2: city because public transportation is just it's just it's better
- 29:13Speaker 2: for everybody. It's better for the environment, it's better for
- 29:15Speaker 2: the city. It's literally better for everything.
- 29:17Speaker 4: There people that think that way, you know, the people
- 29:19Speaker 4: that say smart people, smart people. The people that think
- 29:22Speaker 4: that way are the people that own bikes that are
- 29:24Speaker 4: that cost more than most people's cars. That's so, that's ridiculous.
- 29:27Speaker 4: Oh no, I know the people that think that way.
- 29:30Speaker 4: Check out, Hey, d D. My parents came into this country.
- 29:34Speaker 4: They were janitors for eight years. It worked at How
- 29:37Speaker 4: were they going to get to their janitor's jobs with
- 29:39Speaker 4: buckets and mops on a bike?
- 29:40Speaker 2: Yeah, I got you guess what I went to.
- 29:42Speaker 4: I'm just curious, how does how does the local how
- 29:45Speaker 4: does the local grocer get to a job on a
- 29:48Speaker 4: bike easily?
- 29:49Speaker 2: Because you don't have to have an eight thousand dollars
- 29:51Speaker 2: bike to get on the light.
- 29:52Speaker 6: Right now, this is that the Philippines doing. I'd rather
- 29:55Speaker 6: them do this. I'd rather than do this than the
- 29:57Speaker 6: bike lanes. When I first moved here was in twenty
- 29:59Speaker 6: nin nineteen. I lived in Green Valley, Ranchos right next
- 30:02Speaker 6: to the A line that fifty sixth Street.
- 30:03Speaker 2: Ye stop right.
- 30:04Speaker 6: I took that all the time downtown to get to
- 30:07Speaker 6: baller Reena, to get to Corsfield.
- 30:08Speaker 2: Perfect. I don't take that anymore. Well you don't live
- 30:12Speaker 2: there anymore?
- 30:12Speaker 6: Well, no, I moved and I had another line. I
- 30:16Speaker 6: don't know if it's B line what it was. I
- 30:17Speaker 6: was off two twenty five and I left. I took
- 30:19Speaker 6: that to get to a Nuggets playoff game one night.
- 30:22Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 30:23Speaker 6: I couldn't imagine taking one of my daughters on that.
- 30:27Speaker 6: How about some security on that side? So it's not
- 30:30Speaker 6: scary to take because I lived there. I was in
- 30:33Speaker 6: a roar for twenty years. The age line, you know,
- 30:35Speaker 6: I know exactly where you were.
- 30:37Speaker 2: And the most frustrating thing is you can't just take
- 30:39Speaker 2: that directed downtown. You have to get on and switch trains. Yes,
- 30:42Speaker 2: they do have.
- 30:43Speaker 6: Some annoying as that is. Make it feel like I'm
- 30:46Speaker 6: safe taking that thing first?
- 30:49Speaker 2: A right, man, I'm on the light rail a lot.
- 30:52Speaker 2: And yesterday vic I didn't take my thousand dollars bike.
- 30:55Speaker 2: I took my wife's crap bike and I just pedaled
- 30:58Speaker 2: to like less than a mile to light rail station,
- 31:01Speaker 2: got there, locked it up, had a fun at the meeting,
- 31:04Speaker 2: had a backpack.
- 31:07Speaker 4: No misrepresent what I say. I've ridden bikes. I've had
- 31:10Speaker 4: more bikes.
- 31:11Speaker 2: When was the last time you took a bike on
- 31:12Speaker 2: the light rail?
- 31:13Speaker 4: On the light rail? Yes, I rode a bike to
- 31:16Speaker 4: d I A. Yesterday. I went from my mom and
- 31:18Speaker 4: dad's house to Union station. I took that you that
- 31:21Speaker 4: that that train to d I A, which was wonderful.
- 31:24Speaker 4: By the way, what that is? So I partake in
- 31:27Speaker 4: all that. I think it's the easiest way to get there.
- 31:29Speaker 4: You don't have to park anything. But to say then
- 31:32Speaker 4: that you can live only with the bike again, I
- 31:35Speaker 4: go back to those people. How does a landscaper work
- 31:37Speaker 4: on a bike?
- 31:38Speaker 2: How does a landscaper work?
- 31:40Speaker 4: How does the janitor work with a bike?
- 31:43Speaker 2: You take your school and then you work. Why do
- 31:46Speaker 2: you do your jobs? Why would a janitor need a
- 31:50Speaker 2: bike to sweep up the floor.
- 31:53Speaker 4: You're saying that bikes are going to be the future.
- 31:55Speaker 4: Nobody's going to How is that possible?
- 31:57Speaker 2: Okay, all right, all right, that's your takeaway from the
- 32:01Speaker 2: meeting last night.
- 32:02Speaker 4: No my takeaways you haven't do you know how many
- 32:09Speaker 4: bikes I had stolen in Denver. All right, I want
- 32:13Speaker 4: my bike back. You want me to ride my bike?
- 32:14Speaker 4: I want all seventeen of my bike stolen. You give
- 32:17Speaker 4: him back to me, then I'll consider it.
- 32:18Speaker 2: Bred is this every day?
- 32:20Speaker 6: To be fair, I don't talk to him about bikes often,
- 32:23Speaker 6: so maybe this is pent up.
- 32:24Speaker 2: I don't know. Thank you for coming in Dmac appreciate it.
- 32:27Speaker 2: I'm gonna get up.
- 32:27Speaker 6: My bike is going to join us at nine to
- 32:30Speaker 6: twenty stick around all right, time for what we do
- 32:32Speaker 6: every day at eight forty five. It's a little oh
- 32:36Speaker 6: by the way stories that you might have not heard,
- 32:39Speaker 6: but I think you should to get some of this.
- 32:43Speaker 2: How's this one?
- 32:43Speaker 4: Vic?
- 32:44Speaker 2: Yeah, At the Olympics.
- 32:47Speaker 6: A Slovak fugitive who was wanted for sixteen years by
- 32:52Speaker 6: Italian police was just arrested in Milan because he had
- 32:56Speaker 6: to watch his hockey team play in the Winter Olympics.
- 32:59Speaker 4: So he returned to the country where he committed the
- 33:03Speaker 4: crime because he's such a hockey.
- 33:05Speaker 6: Nut, because he loved his Slovak team so much that
- 33:08Speaker 6: he could not miss an opportunity to watch them in
- 33:10Speaker 6: the Olympics.
- 33:11Speaker 4: That's an awesome story. That's a made for television movie.
- 33:15Speaker 6: So the man who had planned to atten Slovakia is opening
- 33:17Speaker 6: ice hockey game on Wednesday, has eleven months and seven
- 33:20Speaker 6: days to serve. For a string of shop thefts committed
- 33:23Speaker 6: back in twenty ten, I got one for sport fandom,
- 33:28Speaker 6: by the way, Big fandom, by the way.
- 33:31Speaker 4: Say what you want. And this may sound like I'm
- 33:34Speaker 4: contradicting myself on a lot of things, but maybe I am.
- 33:37Speaker 4: Say what you want about Lebron James and what he's
- 33:39Speaker 4: done at the game, what he brings to the game.
- 33:42Speaker 4: I'm sitting there last night here, I'm at the hotel,
- 33:46Speaker 4: sitting next to Mike Miller, former NBA who played for
- 33:49Speaker 4: the Nuggets for a season. He's now an agent. He
- 33:52Speaker 4: played with Lebron James during his career. And we're looking
- 33:55Speaker 4: up at the television and we're watching the Lakers game,
- 33:57Speaker 4: and he's just shaking his head. He's shaking his and
- 34:00Speaker 4: I'm like, what do you shake your head about. He
- 34:01Speaker 4: goes that, dude's almost forty two years old, and he's
- 34:03Speaker 4: got a twenty eight point triple double in the NBA. Yeah,
- 34:07Speaker 4: a twenty eight point triple double in the NBA. And
- 34:09Speaker 4: he's almost forty two years old, and Mike's like, I
- 34:11Speaker 4: can't even walk up the stairs without getting sore. Do
- 34:14Speaker 4: we understand how ridiculous that is? Just how old are you?
- 34:19Speaker 2: Brett thirty six?
- 34:20Speaker 4: You're thirty six, so you're younger than Lebron? Could you
- 34:24Speaker 4: even at age of thirty six? You're a young man.
- 34:27Speaker 4: I'm an old, brittle, pansy haired man. Yeah, I said
- 34:31Speaker 4: that wrong, brittle haired man. Can you imagine at that
- 34:35Speaker 4: age doing what he's doing.
- 34:37Speaker 6: No, It's why I will maintain this. He'll be the
- 34:42Speaker 6: best athlete I think I've ever seen in my life ever. Like,
- 34:44Speaker 6: I don't think anybody in a sport where you have
- 34:48Speaker 6: to maintain peak athleticism to compete, and his style of
- 34:51Speaker 6: game requires athleticism to compete at that level. To do
- 34:56Speaker 6: it at this age is stupid. It doesn't even make sense.
- 34:59Speaker 4: It's unreal and will never We may never see anything
- 35:03Speaker 4: like it again. So.
- 35:07Speaker 6: Oh, by the way, the NBA has fined the Utah
- 35:11Speaker 6: Jazz five hundred thousand dollars for the Shenanigans.
- 35:14Speaker 2: They're polling to call it them.
- 35:16Speaker 6: They rumor is Adam Silver is being peppered by Oklahoma
- 35:22Speaker 6: City's front office of all people about tanking allegations and
- 35:25Speaker 6: how ridiculous it is for the game.
- 35:28Speaker 2: So they're trying to curb this.
- 35:30Speaker 6: I saw two different ideas that have been floated around
- 35:32Speaker 6: in NBA circles higher ups on what they can do.
- 35:35Speaker 4: One of them won't work, So throw those ideas at
- 35:37Speaker 4: I don't know what.
- 35:38Speaker 2: Do you think either one is going to work.
- 35:39Speaker 6: One of them is they said at some point during
- 35:42Speaker 6: the season, before the end of it, they're going to
- 35:43Speaker 6: freeze where teams are at in the standings and take
- 35:46Speaker 6: that for the lottery odds.
- 35:47Speaker 4: See, I like that one better than the next one
- 35:49Speaker 4: you're about to tell us because that one and you
- 35:51Speaker 4: don't tell the teams what that date is like at
- 35:55Speaker 4: the end of the year. You go, Okay, our date
- 35:56Speaker 4: this year was December twenty fifth. Our date this year
- 36:02Speaker 4: was February second, And wherever you are in the standings,
- 36:05Speaker 4: that's where you're gonna pick.
- 36:06Speaker 2: Okay. But but here's my problem with it.
- 36:08Speaker 6: If they cut it off on February second, yeah, and Yo,
- 36:11Speaker 6: Kitchen Murray get hurt the same game on February third,
- 36:14Speaker 6: and they're out for the year. And the Nuggets tank
- 36:16Speaker 6: because they're bad, not because it's intentional.
- 36:19Speaker 2: Well, then you get punished for it.
- 36:20Speaker 4: You're exactly right. Them's are the breaks, uh, trying to
- 36:23Speaker 4: curb tanking. I get it. You're gonna have to take
- 36:25Speaker 4: some chances. Give us the other one that I don't
- 36:27Speaker 4: think won't.
- 36:27Speaker 6: Working on discussing a tournament among lottery teams to determine
- 36:32Speaker 6: draft order.
- 36:34Speaker 4: So you throw utah, you throw a bunch of these
- 36:36Speaker 4: teams in the mix who are clearly trying to lose, right,
- 36:38Speaker 4: and you say, all right, you guys played for the
- 36:42Speaker 4: best pick.
- 36:42Speaker 2: Now you have to win.
- 36:44Speaker 4: Yeah, now you have to win to get the first pick.
- 36:46Speaker 4: Let me tell you something, right now, you think players
- 36:49Speaker 4: care about that?
- 36:50Speaker 2: Yeah?
- 36:50Speaker 4: You think a player is all right, So you're telling me,
- 36:53Speaker 4: I have to go as hard as I can to
- 36:55Speaker 4: win this game, so you could pick up a draft
- 36:57Speaker 4: choice to replace me.
- 36:58Speaker 6: Well, that's you have to You have to incentivize them
- 37:00Speaker 6: with something else.
- 37:01Speaker 2: Of course, Yeah, they gotta.
- 37:03Speaker 6: They gottall be playing for like a million bucks apiece
- 37:06Speaker 6: or something like that.
- 37:07Speaker 4: Second, I agree, I just said, the last thing the
- 37:10Speaker 4: NBA needs is another mid season tournament, right.
- 37:16Speaker 6: A couple other things here. Oh, by the way, do
- 37:19Speaker 6: you happen to see. Speaking of the NBA making changes
- 37:24Speaker 6: Sham's report the other day, if expansion does happen, it
- 37:28Speaker 6: will likely be in Vegas in Seattle, which will pose
- 37:30Speaker 6: a problem geographically. Those are two West Coast teams.
- 37:35Speaker 2: So what would happen.
- 37:36Speaker 8: Miner standing is Seattle and Las Vegas are the front
- 37:39Speaker 8: runners for expansion teams, and then from there a Western
- 37:43Speaker 8: Conference team moving to the Eastern Conference. So when you
- 37:46Speaker 8: think about teams in that region, right Memphis, Minnesota, New Orleans,
- 37:51Speaker 8: could one of those teams potentially.
- 37:52Speaker 4: Move to the Eastern Conference.
- 37:54Speaker 8: These are conversations that we'll be picking up as twenty
- 37:57Speaker 8: twenty six goes on.
- 37:58Speaker 4: This is still a few years away.
- 38:00Speaker 8: I'm actually taking place as far as these expansive teams
- 38:03Speaker 8: being put forth.
- 38:04Speaker 6: Let me tell you something right now, Geographically this would
- 38:07Speaker 6: not make sense. I volunteer as tributes. Put me in
- 38:12Speaker 6: the East. Please all play in the NBA finals eight
- 38:15Speaker 6: years in a row. Please take Denver, please.
- 38:18Speaker 4: The Nuggets on the we'd have to be we'd have
- 38:21Speaker 4: to have East Coast bias. Then fine, you have to Okay, fine, Hey,
- 38:28Speaker 4: there are enough East Coasters that live in Denver. We
- 38:30Speaker 4: could qualify as in the East coast city, Vick.
- 38:33Speaker 2: Think about it.
- 38:34Speaker 6: Games start at five o'clock every night, you play against
- 38:37Speaker 6: dog butt teams the entire year, You finish first every
- 38:41Speaker 6: single year with Jokic. Come on, man, why we just
- 38:43Speaker 6: want to go East coast?
- 38:44Speaker 4: Not only that, it's a lot of time spent in
- 38:46Speaker 4: Orlando Miami. Yeah, sign me up for that. Now. The
- 38:51Speaker 4: real move is what Sean has just said. There you
- 38:54Speaker 4: move Memphis in Minnesota. They're right there. I mean, just
- 38:57Speaker 4: move them, see.
- 38:58Speaker 6: You, Memphis, m It's still never made sense to me
- 39:02Speaker 6: how Memphis was a West Coast team.
- 39:04Speaker 4: Well, because they had to, because it came from Vancouver.
- 39:06Speaker 2: I understand.
- 39:07Speaker 6: I was just like in my head for all these years,
- 39:10Speaker 6: I'm like, God, I want to travel out west to Memphis, Tennessee.
- 39:14Speaker 6: That sounds great, But yeah, that's I mean, when that happens,
- 39:19Speaker 6: it's gonna shake up what these what these conferences look like?
- 39:22Speaker 6: Do you think it'll be in Minnesota goes Over.
- 39:25Speaker 4: I think those two make the most sense.
- 39:27Speaker 6: I mean, do they worry about like how good the
- 39:30Speaker 6: teams are or bad they are?
- 39:34Speaker 4: I think that comes and goes Listen, major League Baseball,
- 39:38Speaker 4: did it remember when the Astros win a different they're
- 39:40Speaker 4: in a different league. Yeah, the Astros were always a
- 39:43Speaker 4: National League team. In fact, when I think of the Astros,
- 39:45Speaker 4: I still can't my mind can't wrap around American League.
- 39:49Speaker 6: Wait, who switched from AFC to NFC in the NFL.
- 39:53Speaker 6: Uh Seattle Seattle did?
- 39:55Speaker 2: Yeah, they were in the AFC West.
- 39:56Speaker 4: Yeah, Seattle was a rival of Denvers for many years
- 39:59Speaker 4: in THEFC West and all of a sudden during the
- 40:02Speaker 4: NFC West. And heck you there's no argument the NFC
- 40:06Speaker 4: West is the best division of football.
- 40:07Speaker 2: And that was to make room.
- 40:08Speaker 6: For whom.
- 40:11Speaker 4: Jacksonville? Was it?
- 40:13Speaker 6: Jackson Yeah, probably that sounds right Jacksonville. Oh, by the way,
- 40:17Speaker 6: you said this about baseball. According to Jeff Passon, here's
- 40:22Speaker 6: a quote MLB owners and their desire for a salary cap.
- 40:27Speaker 4: Quote, they are.
- 40:28Speaker 6: Ready to burn the bleeping house down, is what he said.
- 40:31Speaker 6: That CBA expires December first of this year. We are
- 40:35Speaker 6: undoubtedly getting a lockout after this MLB season.
- 40:37Speaker 4: This is the final year of one hundred and sixty
- 40:40Speaker 4: two game baseball. You got a shortened season next year,
- 40:44Speaker 4: is what you're saying.
- 40:45Speaker 6: Well, next year will probably be, yeah, a shortened season
- 40:47Speaker 6: due to a lockout. I'll tell you why this happened.
- 40:52Speaker 6: If the Dodgers didn't make the signing this offseason after
- 40:57Speaker 6: all the stuff they've already done, deferred money, sho heo tani,
- 40:59Speaker 6: getting all these different guys. I really think that the
- 41:05Speaker 6: straw that broke the camel's back was the Kyle Tucker
- 41:07Speaker 6: signing this offseason. Well, they're just like, dude, Okay, fine,
- 41:10Speaker 6: we can't do this anymore.
- 41:11Speaker 4: We can't.
- 41:13Speaker 2: And I think that's the one.
- 41:15Speaker 4: I just I wonder how you're going to fashion this
- 41:21Speaker 4: in collective bargaining with the players. Again, their union's much
- 41:25Speaker 4: different than the NFL players union. I just wonder how
- 41:28Speaker 4: long that would take the hammer out a deal.
- 41:31Speaker 2: It would take a very long time, very long.
- 41:35Speaker 4: And nowre you ready? You know, when's the last time
- 41:37Speaker 4: we've had a professional sports workstoppage among the big four?
- 41:41Speaker 4: Think about that? Okay, so basketball, God, it's been a while.
- 41:46Speaker 4: In hoops we had one because I remember it.
- 41:48Speaker 7: There was an NHL lockout, And wasn't it like two
- 41:50Speaker 7: thousand and ten or eleven, not quite around there, But
- 41:53Speaker 7: I think that's the most recent.
- 41:54Speaker 6: Do you mean a lockout that actually affect the games
- 41:56Speaker 6: played in a season. Yeah, yes, the NFL locked out,
- 41:59Speaker 6: but not during the season, not too long.
- 42:02Speaker 4: Yeah that those don't count. Yeah okay, yeah, if you
- 42:04Speaker 4: have the off season lock those are like fake. I'm
- 42:06Speaker 4: talking about the impact of the season.
- 42:08Speaker 7: The last NHL lockout was September fifteenth, twenty twelve through
- 42:12Speaker 7: January twenty.
- 42:13Speaker 4: Threty for this. You're ready to hear about the next
- 42:16Speaker 4: big lockout in sports. It's going to happen. Mark my words,
- 42:19Speaker 4: Hell record this, Netley record this. There will be in
- 42:26Speaker 4: the next ten years a substantial lockout or workstoppage in
- 42:32Speaker 4: college football. You can write this down, help record this
- 42:36Speaker 4: probably right, I guarantee it. As soon as they unionize
- 42:40Speaker 4: college sports, which is right around the corner, a work
- 42:43Speaker 4: stoppage is coming.
- 42:44Speaker 6: You know what, why would the college players do anything?
- 42:46Speaker 6: Feels like they're getting the good end of this steal
- 42:49Speaker 6: right now.
- 42:49Speaker 4: Then the other way it will happen. Something's gonna happen.
- 42:52Speaker 4: It's just an out of control media ore right now.
- 42:55Speaker 6: One last thing, Oh, by the way, place that you
- 42:58Speaker 6: played vic, I don't know if you guys have heard
- 43:00Speaker 6: about it. They played Augusta last year.
- 43:02Speaker 4: How's this I tell you about the time I played
- 43:04Speaker 4: Augusta three days in a row. I I show this vic.
- 43:08Speaker 6: Three time Masters champion Gary Player had this quote. I
- 43:14Speaker 6: have been ambassador, ambassador at Augusta for all these years,
- 43:17Speaker 6: yet they won't let me have one round of golf
- 43:19Speaker 6: in my life with my three grandsons. They have denied
- 43:22Speaker 6: him over and over again, a round of golf with
- 43:25Speaker 6: his three grand kids. It's all he wants to do, say, Usta,
- 43:29Speaker 6: let me re emphasize something. As much as I love
- 43:32Speaker 6: the Masters, hey Gusta, get over yourself, but the man,
- 43:36Speaker 6: this guy is a three time champ. Let him play
- 43:38Speaker 6: with his grandkids one round.
- 43:40Speaker 4: What's the problem with the member?
- 43:44Speaker 2: How is he not a member?
- 43:47Speaker 6: He's like, he's an ambassador to this place.
- 43:51Speaker 4: I am. You're never gonna hear me say anything bad
- 43:53Speaker 4: about that place. You may not like it. It might
- 43:55Speaker 4: be archaic, it might be it makes no sense. It's like,
- 43:59Speaker 4: what what are they doing? My lips are sealed.
- 44:04Speaker 6: Let the man play with his grandkids, for God's sake.
- 44:07Speaker 4: Send the kids to Willis case. I can get him
- 44:09Speaker 4: at tea time tomorrow. Call me Gary h A. The
- 44:15Speaker 4: boy watch the people. Wood's got tea times all day.
- 44:19Speaker 4: It's right by my house. I'll hook you up.
- 44:21Speaker 6: Back to Olympic hockey and what brock Nelson did for
- 44:23Speaker 6: the US last night.
- 44:24Speaker 4: Next