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Hero Pets Solve Crimes Impossible For Mere Mortals · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: First of all, Happy New Year from all of us
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Speaker 1: here at Crime Stories and what stories we have for
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Speaker 1: you today. I'm Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories. Thanks
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Speaker 1: for being with us here at Fox Station in series
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Speaker 1: X one eleven. Now, these crime stories are different from
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Speaker 1: any other crime story we've ever brought to you for
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Speaker 1: the entire year of twenty twenty two. Let's kick it
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Speaker 1: off with our friends at GMA. Meet Henry, an eight
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Speaker 1: year old Boston Terrier who's being hailed as a real
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Speaker 1: hero this morning after saving the life of his nine
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Speaker 1: month old human sister. It all started when Henry began
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Speaker 1: acting a little strange, repeatedly barging into the nursery and
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Speaker 1: waking the baby at night. He was headbutting the door
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Speaker 1: open and going into her room and standing there, and
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Speaker 1: every time I shoot him away, he would go back
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Speaker 1: in as soon as my back was turned. While Kelly
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Speaker 1: and Jeff Dowling knew their daughter had a cold, it
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Speaker 1: was Henry who sense that things were getting worse. She
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Speaker 1: wasn't clear in her airway she was. She started to
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Speaker 1: turn blue. She couldn't get air, couldn't get in the oxygen.
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Speaker 1: The couple rushed their baby girl to the hospital, where
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Speaker 1: doctors were able to clear out her airways and send
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Speaker 1: her back home. Later that night, Kelly Dowling shared the
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Speaker 1: story on Twitter, writing I don't know what would have
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Speaker 1: happened if he hadn't woken her. We don't deserve dogs,
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Speaker 1: joining me as an all start panel pet dog specialist
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Speaker 1: experts in their fields, but first to Dave Matt Crime
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Speaker 1: online dot Com investigative reporter, what happened. The dog was
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Speaker 1: more in tune with what was happening. The parents knew
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Speaker 1: that they had a baby who had a cold, but
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Speaker 1: they didn't realize that the baby was having a lot
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Speaker 1: of trouble. But the dog just had a better sense
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Speaker 1: of what was going on. Knowing that this baby was suffering,
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Speaker 1: just would not stop until the parents actually came in
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Speaker 1: and looked save the baby's life. It's amazing to me
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Speaker 1: that it's the dog. I thought dogs were color blind.
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Speaker 1: That's what I learned in Arson investigations, that a dog
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Speaker 1: could sense a fire. Dog as I call them, could
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Speaker 1: smell the accelerant left behind and a fire even after
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Speaker 1: everything was destroyed, but couldn't see it except in shades
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Speaker 1: of black, white, and gray. Joining me, Emily Campanio. You
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Speaker 1: know her well. Co hosts have outnumbered on Fox and
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Speaker 1: most of hero Dogs on Fox Nation. Emily, it's a
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Speaker 1: real treat to have you joining us. Can you believe
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Speaker 1: this story? A dog who doesn't even see colors, or
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Speaker 1: so we've been told, could tell the baby was in
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Speaker 1: distress and turning blue, and her own parents didn't know it. Emily,
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Speaker 1: I think that's what's so incredible about dogs. Not only
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Speaker 1: do they have a multitude of senses humans don't, but
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Speaker 1: they don't give up. The remarkable part of the story
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Speaker 1: to me is not necessarily that the dog knew the
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Speaker 1: baby was in distress, but that he kept going in
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Speaker 1: that he wilfully disobeyed his parents to sew them. You guys,
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Speaker 1: your baby needs help, My sister needs help. It's really
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Speaker 1: a remarkable story. And yet I'm not surprised at all.
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Speaker 1: Good dog, good dog with me, Angie would the Atlanta
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Speaker 1: Dog Whisperer, she's dog behaviorist. Angie, thanks for being with us.
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Speaker 1: Are you surprised at all about what happened? No, not
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Speaker 1: at all, answer Grace and dogs have dogy senses. They
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Speaker 1: are more in tune to buy the energy and what's
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Speaker 1: going on around them much more than we are, and
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Speaker 1: they live by the nose, live by the nose. They
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Speaker 1: have even smelled a little different, right. Wow, you know,
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Speaker 1: I hadn't even thought about that. I hadn't thought about that, guys.
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Speaker 1: Marshall Morocci is with me former Secret Service Special Ops
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Speaker 1: Tactical Canine Unit and you can find him at Canine
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Speaker 1: Hurricanes Heroes dot org. What do you make of this
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Speaker 1: story where the dog keeps leading the parents back in
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Speaker 1: and the baby is actually blue? Yeah? I mean, I
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Speaker 1: actually I've seen this firsthand with a lot of the
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Speaker 1: diabetic dog they can actually pick up on the smell
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Speaker 1: and a lot of the senses coming from the person
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Speaker 1: if they're low on their blood sugar. This is kind
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Speaker 1: of in the same realm as that type of training.
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Speaker 1: This dog just obviously instinctually had it, you know, over
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Speaker 1: the care of the child. It just comes second nature
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Speaker 1: to them. It's it's really impressive, guys. Does anybody on
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Speaker 1: the panel know what are the dogs smelling? The baby's
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Speaker 1: turning blue? The dog cannot see her where she is
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Speaker 1: in the bed, but he is alerting the parents and
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Speaker 1: he keeps going back and back and back until they
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Speaker 1: come to the room. And look at the baby. The
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Speaker 1: baby is blue. How in the world what could he
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Speaker 1: possibly smell? Does anybody on the panel have any idea
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Speaker 1: what the dog is smelling? I may have an idea. Go,
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Speaker 1: we people, we produce pheromones and hormones. And there's a
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Speaker 1: new study out about a one hundred percent of dogs
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Speaker 1: tests to do when you were afraid. So this tells
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Speaker 1: us that our body chemistry changes under the risk, probably
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Speaker 1: under happiness, and all sorts of other situations. So I
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Speaker 1: have a feeling that had a huge component. Who is
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Speaker 1: this speaking? This is Angie? Okay, Angie would Now it's
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Speaker 1: hard for immediably because when I hear any bit of information,
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Speaker 1: I immediately think it can or cannot come into evidence
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Speaker 1: in court, you know, And I guess like a computer.
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Speaker 1: I run through all the hearsay exceptions, all the evidentiary
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Speaker 1: exceptions and rules to getting something in and you cannot
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Speaker 1: get into court. The dog can smell my happiness. That's
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Speaker 1: not going to happen. But that does not mean, that
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Speaker 1: does not mean that I don't believe you. But I
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Speaker 1: tell you somebody that knows all about dogs and their noses.
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Speaker 1: That's Tracy Sargent joining me I'm a longtime friend that
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Speaker 1: I worked with many many times. Search Rescue Recovery Expert
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Speaker 1: podcast The Seeker's Quest. Tracy handles canines. Now, you have
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Speaker 1: had a lot of canines that you and I've worked
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Speaker 1: with that can smell, for instance, can daver a dead person?
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Speaker 1: So I know they can smell that. But in my mind,
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Speaker 1: I'm thinking, well so can I. But explain to me
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Speaker 1: how a dog's nose work. And it's going to be
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Speaker 1: hard to convince me a dog and smell my happiness.
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Speaker 1: But I'm slowly wading into my disbelief. Help me out, Tracy. Well,
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Speaker 1: first of all, dogs just physically are divine to smell things.
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Speaker 1: The idea, and it was mentioned earlier by another guest
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Speaker 1: that we can see the world through our eyes. Dogs
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Speaker 1: see the world through their nose. So when they are
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Speaker 1: smelling around, they're not smelling just a whole variety of
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Speaker 1: senses and smells. They are smelling individual sense for example.
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Speaker 1: It was explained years ago, and it's a good analogy.
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Speaker 1: When we look at let's say, a vegetable soup, we
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Speaker 1: may smell the soup itself. Dogs can smell every single
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Speaker 1: ingredient in that vegetable soup, so they were able to
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Speaker 1: distinguish individual specific sense and they truly do have superpowers.
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Speaker 1: I've seen this not only with sever dogs, but also
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Speaker 1: with drug dog bomb dogs we mentioned diabetic dog. Their
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Speaker 1: senses are truly superpowers, and just physically how they're designed.
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Speaker 1: When we look at how our brains are designed to
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Speaker 1: pick up scent and smell, it's very very small part
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Speaker 1: of us. When you compare it to a dog's brain,
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Speaker 1: it is smithically a larger amount of their brain and
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Speaker 1: their senses and their whole design of how their brain
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Speaker 1: and their nose and all of that works together to
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Speaker 1: be able to pick up all of those different suns.
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Speaker 1: You know, we have a pound puppy, fat boy, and
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Speaker 1: I've noticed I don't hear anything, I don't see anything,
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Speaker 1: I don't smell anything. And the dog will sup and
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Speaker 1: his nose will actually be quivering he smells something and
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Speaker 1: then the next thing you know, the doorbell will ring
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Speaker 1: or some event occurs. It's really and you, okay, you're
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Speaker 1: you almost got me there. I'm almost convinced. Now you
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Speaker 1: heard about the little baby that was turning blue, not crying,
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Speaker 1: not making a sound, and the dog, the Boston Terrier
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Speaker 1: saved her. Now take a listen to this. This is
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Speaker 1: Brython and this is Shiloh. They just do everything together.
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Speaker 1: Best friends from the start, as much as ebody was
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Speaker 1: everybody else. Those two, the baby and the dog, have
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Speaker 1: a bond. If the pear is outside together, they're likely
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Speaker 1: playing fetch. And it was right here where Shilo became
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Speaker 1: this family's hero. A quiet night, the family relaxing outside,
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Speaker 1: Bryson making his way out, and as he started to
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Speaker 1: step off the porch, Shilo jumped up and he took
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Speaker 1: off actor he lunged right towards the baby, of the
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Speaker 1: baby's feet, and when he did, he kind of dirt back.
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Speaker 1: It's what was in this bush. Shiloh saw it before
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Speaker 1: anyone else. As soon as I saw it, I did
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Speaker 1: I knew was a copperhead Ippaily, of course, a copperhead,
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Speaker 1: one of the deadliest poisonous snakes in the country. Take
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Speaker 1: lest to more from wat A copperhead inches away from
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Speaker 1: eighteen month old Brython. Shilo, jumping between the two, turned
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Speaker 1: his head to the side and shaking his head and stuff,
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Speaker 1: and he could tell he had been hurt. You know,
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Speaker 1: that's the snake had gotten as fur as he is.
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Speaker 1: He had so much fur around his neck you could
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Speaker 1: visibly see the swelling. Shilo recovered after a full round
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Speaker 1: of antibiotics and pain medicine. The family still amazed that
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Speaker 1: what happened. He's twenty four pounds and I believe that
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Speaker 1: it would have killed him. These two best friends back
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Speaker 1: together again. We give God the glory and everything, and
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Speaker 1: we know that he used that dog, that wonderful dog,
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Speaker 1: to protect him, and we're thankful every day for him. Now,
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Speaker 1: time stories with Nancy Grace May to Tracy Sergeant joining
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Speaker 1: us with the seekers quest who actually handles dogs? I
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Speaker 1: know you do cadaver dogs. What other dogs do you handle? Tracy?
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Speaker 1: So I've had to handle bomb dogs. I've been a
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Speaker 1: regional representative of service dogs, including diabetic feature alert dogs
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Speaker 1: as well as people with special needs. But what I
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Speaker 1: do specifically with my personal dogs to search, riscuing, recovery. Okay,
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Speaker 1: you're gonna think this is crazy or maybe not, but
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Speaker 1: growing up in heavily heavily wooded rural Middle Georgia, we
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Speaker 1: can well. I think my brother and sister can actually
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Speaker 1: smell a snake. They kind of smell like um, kind
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Speaker 1: of smell like a goat crossed with roadkill. It's something
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Speaker 1: like a skunk. Once you smell it, you will never
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Speaker 1: mistake it again. So I can understand actually how the
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Speaker 1: dog could smell the snake but taking the hit. The
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Speaker 1: snake bit the dog and not the child and miraculously
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Speaker 1: was saved. Marshall Moroakey joining me, Are you surprised that
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Speaker 1: the dog to the bite from the snake and save
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Speaker 1: the child. I'm not surprised at all. Just like the
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Speaker 1: first scenario we talked about the dog using its sentence
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Speaker 1: to be protective, here it's using its instincts. You know.
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Speaker 1: Remember the dogs are packed animals, and that baby is
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Speaker 1: part of the pack, and that dog knows to protect
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Speaker 1: that baby at all costs, just like they do out
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Speaker 1: in the wild with each other younger sibling. They're just
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Speaker 1: doing the same thing right there with the humans. It's
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Speaker 1: amazing to see. It's such a great story. Marshall Maroakey
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Speaker 1: joining me. Guys, former Secret Service special ops, you can
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Speaker 1: find them at Canine Hurricanes Heroes dot org. Can you
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Speaker 1: tell me about Hurricane? True? So, Hurricane was my secret
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Speaker 1: Service dog in two thou twelve to twenty sixteen and
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Speaker 1: just along these same lines. His job was to protect
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Speaker 1: the White House, so we would sit at the White House,
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Speaker 1: inside the fence and protect the First family from intruders
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Speaker 1: or any dangers coming over at the fence. In twenty fourteen,
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Speaker 1: Hurricane at his suspect got over multiple fences and got
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Speaker 1: all the way up to the front door. President Obama
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Speaker 1: and his family were just inside, and Hurricane, using his
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Speaker 1: protective nature not a sense as here, you know, runs
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Speaker 1: out and stops the intruder from getting into the White House.
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Speaker 1: You know, people always say he was protecting the president,
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Speaker 1: but just like this situation with the baby, he's protecting me.
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Speaker 1: He doesn't know he's at the White House. He doesn't
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Speaker 1: know the magnitude of the situation. He just knows, you know,
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Speaker 1: somebody's running aggressively towards Dad and I need to stop him.
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Speaker 1: And it's you know, falls right in line with this
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Speaker 1: last three we just heard with protecting the child from
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Speaker 1: the snake. You gotta tell me the whole thing, Marshal,
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Speaker 1: because we're talking about Knin and Hurricane A Formers Acial
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Speaker 1: Ops K nine, who protected the President of the United
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Speaker 1: States from an intruder at the White House. It took
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Speaker 1: a dog. Now, no offense, Marshall Maerchy. But I thought
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Speaker 1: the house, the White House was shrouded like you know Hogwarts. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: he's got all the magical special charms all around it,
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Speaker 1: and nobody can the demeanors can't get in. Yeah, I
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Speaker 1: guess you read the book or saw the movie, right.
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Speaker 1: I thought the White House was just you know, fortified
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Speaker 1: with all of these special protections, and a dog took
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Speaker 1: down the intruder. You know, there's a lot of officers,
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Speaker 1: a lot of agents, and a lot of technology, but
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Speaker 1: you know, a dog saved the agency that day, saved
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Speaker 1: the president. In a week after nine to eleven, with
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Speaker 1: the threat of suicide bombers, we started the apprehension program
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Speaker 1: where that you know, the dogs can be that first
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Speaker 1: line of defense for us so we can assess the situation.
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Speaker 1: So on that day, hurricane right place, right time, and
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Speaker 1: you know, protecting Dad of course ran out there and
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Speaker 1: he was able to stop the intruder, so you know
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Speaker 1: I didn't have to run out. I'm looking at him
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Speaker 1: right now. He's very handsome, shiny, he's solid black. He's
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Speaker 1: gone on his secret service vest. His ears are poking up.
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Speaker 1: It says he's a Belgian what Malinois. They're part of
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Speaker 1: the German Shepherd family. And yes, he's very proud of
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Speaker 1: his vest in his gear. You know, the second you
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Speaker 1: put it on him, it's like his Superman Kpe right away.
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Speaker 1: You can just see the difference in his posture. He
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Speaker 1: just he's very proud of what he does. You know,
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Speaker 1: I was always very proud of my badge when I
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Speaker 1: was a prosecutor. It still am. One of the headlines says,
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Speaker 1: he crushes the White House intruder. Please tell me he
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Speaker 1: really bit him? But good so that individual was on
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Speaker 1: a couple of different drugs actually that day, so he
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Speaker 1: wasn't feeling any pain. So at that point it became
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Speaker 1: a two hundred pound athlete verse, you know, a seventy
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Speaker 1: pound dog and just a straight up and you know
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Speaker 1: some of these other stories we've talked about, Um, the
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Speaker 1: dog was willing to die for me. I'm one of
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Speaker 1: those rare people that can actually say, you know, I
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Speaker 1: have a best friend who was willing to lay it
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Speaker 1: all on the line for me. So it's just like
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Speaker 1: an amazing experience I have. Yes, a fight ensued. Fox
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Speaker 1: was actually the station that caught it all live on camera.
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Speaker 1: So it's all out there. But the individual was punching Hurricane,
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Speaker 1: kicking him, stomping on his head at one point, and
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Speaker 1: Hurricane just would would not, would not ease up until
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Speaker 1: he pushed the individual all the way back to the
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Speaker 1: fence so me and the rest of my team could
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Speaker 1: move in and handcuff the suspect. Did he buy him
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Speaker 1: a lot? That's a technical legal question, so please say yes.
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Speaker 1: I want it bitten really badly. I mean, you know
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Speaker 1: more than anybody how the court cases go. So the um,
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna that one. So I'm just thinking
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Speaker 1: you can see if the videos out there. I'm just
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Speaker 1: thinking about this dog. And I've said many times, let
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Speaker 1: me bring in my longtime friend and colleague, Penny. Are
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Speaker 1: you with me? Penny Edwards is joining me right now,
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Speaker 1: and we have gone round and round and round about dogs,
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Speaker 1: specifically Rottwillers that eat people. But Penny, you're absolutely right
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Speaker 1: a dog actually saving the President and Missus Obama. I mean,
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Speaker 1: you're hearing all these stories, Penny, and it feeds into
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Speaker 1: everything you just said that you've always said. A Belgian
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Speaker 1: Malonoa went on a walk with his trainer in the
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Speaker 1: mountains one day and he was in front of his trainer.
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Speaker 1: They were just walking the lawn and a cougar jumped
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Speaker 1: on his trainer. His trainer screamed. The Belgian Malonoa did
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Speaker 1: not wait a second. He was on top of that
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Speaker 1: and he took the puma down, and the puma got
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Speaker 1: scared and ran up a tree, and the trainer had
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Speaker 1: to bring the Belgian Malanmoi out because he was at
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Speaker 1: the bottom of the tree wanting to get to the cat.
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Speaker 1: And at first he was afraid that the cat would
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Speaker 1: kill the Belgian dog, but he didn't. The dog didn't
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Speaker 1: wait a second. He was going to protect his trainer.
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Speaker 1: He was there in a slash. You know, I've never
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Speaker 1: heard of that. I would have just called Hurricane and
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Speaker 1: German shepherd just by looking at him. That's a pretty
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Speaker 1: amazing story. All the stories we're bringing you now to
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Speaker 1: celebrate the coming of twenty twenty three are all true.
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Speaker 1: None of this is made up or fictionalized. As a
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Speaker 1: matter of fact. As much as I rail about pitbulls,
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Speaker 1: I want you to take a listen to Kelsey Watt's
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Speaker 1: Local twelve Freshly home from the hospital, eel se Cole shaber,
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Speaker 1: he's hugging his dog a little tighter. Cool. He was
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Speaker 1: with his sisters and other neighborhood kids exploring a creek
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Speaker 1: down this steep embankment behind their Organ City apartment complex
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Speaker 1: when one of the kids stepped into a rotten log,
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Speaker 1: unleashing swarms of bees. Because it felt like a bunch
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Speaker 1: of yearsers went into my skin, I didn't know what
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Speaker 1: was going on until the girl started yelling, screaming knees.
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Speaker 1: Jesse Cole's big sister, Jasmine, was stung five times and
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Speaker 1: what could have been a deadly encounter because she's allergic
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Speaker 1: to bees and I got hit with the MP pin
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Speaker 1: two times. Wow. Karen Start with New York psychologists joining
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Speaker 1: us from Manhattan at Karen start dot com. Karen with
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Speaker 1: a C. Karen, I remember you and I sitting in
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Speaker 1: amazement as my former producer Dean Sicoli told a story
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Speaker 1: of being in a restaurant right down the street from
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Speaker 1: where you are right now. They told the people that
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Speaker 1: they're sell us allergic to nuts repeatedly, yet brought the
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Speaker 1: child a meal with cash you milk in it. Later
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Speaker 1: they said, well there weren't any nuts, but a lot
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Speaker 1: of story short the child goes in an anaphylactic shot.
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Speaker 1: Dean races across the street, bams on a pharmacy that's closed.
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Speaker 1: They open for him, and they give him an EpiPen,
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Speaker 1: and he races back and saves his son. That's what
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Speaker 1: happens to people that are allergic with bees, Karen, doesn't
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Speaker 1: your throat constrict and you can't breathe anymore, you throw
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Speaker 1: a constricts Actually happen to me. When you have an
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Speaker 1: allergic reaction like that, you can go intown the Chelastically,
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Speaker 1: you can't breathe and everything is studding down. It's yes,
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Speaker 1: and that's exactly what's happening here with the bees. Emily
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Speaker 1: Campanio joining US, co host of Outnumbered on Fox News
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Speaker 1: and host of Here Road Dogs on Fox Nation. Which
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Speaker 1: is incredible, Emily, It's amazing, Emily. I want you to
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Speaker 1: listen to the rest of the story about the bee stings. Meanwhile,
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Speaker 1: little Jesse Cole was stilling at least twenty four times
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Speaker 1: whose family can count, got one here here and couldn't
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Speaker 1: make it back up this hill to safety on his own.
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Speaker 1: But luckily their pitbull Hades came to the rescue. Hates
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Speaker 1: swimming came and she dragged me up to the grass
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Speaker 1: and then stopped them when my crawl on her back,
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Speaker 1: and then took me to mom. It's heard a bunch
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Speaker 1: of screaming. Then I saw my dog dragging my son
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Speaker 1: up as pants. Their mother, who does not want to
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Speaker 1: be identified, says, even in the hospital, doctors were still
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Speaker 1: pulling bees out of their hair, and if it weren't
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Speaker 1: for a little help from Hades, Oh, a couple of
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Speaker 1: these kids could have got really thick or dyed. To
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Speaker 1: Emily Campano joining us, this is just a real treat
20:58
Speaker 1: to have you on, Emily. What do you make of
21:00
Speaker 1: that story, Emily, Oh, I love being on here at Nancy.
21:03
Speaker 1: Thank you so much. I think it's one more absolutely
21:06
Speaker 1: phenomenal story that we have been sharing today. Where dogs
21:10
Speaker 1: have superhuman, super canine strength, they never fail, and what
21:16
Speaker 1: they demonstrate exceeds all human boundaries. You know, we can
21:20
Speaker 1: smell something from a couple feet away. These dogs can
21:24
Speaker 1: taste and smell, you know, a tiny gram of salt
21:27
Speaker 1: and an Olympic sized school. They can sense imperceptible temperature changes.
21:33
Speaker 1: They can hear from miles away, So not only are
21:37
Speaker 1: their senses heightened, but that sense of loyalty is also astronomical,
21:41
Speaker 1: which is why they will die for us. As former
21:44
Speaker 1: Secret Service agent Marshall Monarchy was stating earlier, they will
21:48
Speaker 1: absolutely lay down their lives for their handler, for their
21:52
Speaker 1: best friends, for their dad. And I think it's part
21:56
Speaker 1: of what is remarkable about these stories is that the
21:59
Speaker 1: humans are watching that unfold. And yet the common denominator
22:03
Speaker 1: here is that all of these dogs have succeeded in
22:05
Speaker 1: these incredible stories. So we're lucky that after the fact
22:08
Speaker 1: we still get to snuggle with them on the couch. Emily,
22:11
Speaker 1: I was viewing over and over and over a recent
22:15
Speaker 1: clip that was home security surveillance, and a little girl
22:21
Speaker 1: was in the front yard of her home. Her home
22:24
Speaker 1: was the one catching what happened, and the dog suddenly
22:29
Speaker 1: just races out from outside the camera view races toward
22:34
Speaker 1: the girl. I thought the dog, it looked like a
22:36
Speaker 1: lassie dog, was gonna knock the little girl down, but
22:40
Speaker 1: he ran around and around the little girl and then
22:45
Speaker 1: went and attacked another dog that was coming for the
22:49
Speaker 1: little girl. It was either a pitbull or a rotwhile
22:53
Speaker 1: or that had gotten away from its owner and was
22:57
Speaker 1: headed for the little girl. For who knows what reason,
23:01
Speaker 1: but this dog when the two met, they both went
23:04
Speaker 1: up in the air. And it was amazing to me
23:07
Speaker 1: that this dog at a distance sensed or saw something
23:12
Speaker 1: that humans didn't see. The pit bull, as I believe it,
23:15
Speaker 1: was rushing toward his little girl, and he ran from
23:20
Speaker 1: the distance and actually attacked the dog mid air. It
23:24
Speaker 1: was amazing. I think that's something that is so remarkable
23:29
Speaker 1: as well, which is that I think in human interaction.
23:31
Speaker 1: You know, if we're in a David and Goliath situation,
23:34
Speaker 1: normally the David backs down, but in the canine kingdom,
23:39
Speaker 1: you can see that totally disparate size and the dogs
23:42
Speaker 1: don't care. That's why the twenty four pound dog went
23:44
Speaker 1: up against the snake. As you heard the owners say earlier,
23:47
Speaker 1: the dog should have died. The story you just articulated,
23:51
Speaker 1: which is a small lassie going up against a big
23:54
Speaker 1: Rottweiler meeting in the air. I mean, we see it
23:56
Speaker 1: all the time with our pets, right where the threat
23:58
Speaker 1: is so much larger than a dog, and yet the
24:01
Speaker 1: dog does everything they can to protect their pack member,
24:05
Speaker 1: their parents, you know, whoever it is that they're protecting.
24:08
Speaker 1: That instinct and that absolute lack of abandonment is what
24:12
Speaker 1: puts these dogs in these positions of protection over and
24:15
Speaker 1: over and over again, especially with our men and women
24:17
Speaker 1: in uniform. Emily, I have to tell you what happens
24:20
Speaker 1: our dog. When I got him at the pound, they said, oh,
24:24
Speaker 1: he's a purebred docksin because I happen to mention my
24:27
Speaker 1: son wanted a hot dog, a weenie dog. Well, he
24:30
Speaker 1: is anything but a pure bread anything. I think from
24:34
Speaker 1: the shoulders up he's a doverman pincher, and then yeah,
24:38
Speaker 1: and then from the shoulders down he's kind of he's short.
24:42
Speaker 1: I wish I could convince him that the Amazon delivery
24:45
Speaker 1: guy is not the enemy, because if I go out
24:49
Speaker 1: and he sees anybody in the yard, he is on
24:52
Speaker 1: them like a bullet. They won't even get out of
24:55
Speaker 1: the car anymore. They just sit out there and honk
24:57
Speaker 1: the horn, hoping I'll come back. Because dog, he's this big,
25:02
Speaker 1: and he's like, ooh, I try. It's like a bullet
25:06
Speaker 1: racing across the front yard to attack whoever it is. Emily, Emily,
25:10
Speaker 1: please tell me. I know you've got so many, but
25:12
Speaker 1: what is one of your favorite stories about dog heroes? Oh,
25:17
Speaker 1: you're right, I have many and by the way I have,
25:19
Speaker 1: I just lost her. But my best friend of her
25:23
Speaker 1: whole life was at Dobermanfenthier an extra large Doberman Pitcher
25:26
Speaker 1: named Duchess, and no one even looked at me. She
25:30
Speaker 1: was larger than I am. She Outwagby for most of
25:32
Speaker 1: her life. So the protection, the deterrence visually as well
25:35
Speaker 1: as these dogs, even if they're small, goes a long way,
25:38
Speaker 1: especially I'm sure for delivery drivers. Yafee. One of my
25:41
Speaker 1: favorite stories is Canine Joker, who was a County Sheriff's
25:46
Speaker 1: canine unit in Bradley County in Chattanooga, Tennessee. I had
25:49
Speaker 1: the honor of snuggling with Canine Joker and meeting his
25:53
Speaker 1: hamler and Deputy Edwards Chokes. And this story distilled down
25:58
Speaker 1: is that this working canine had developed reputation around that
26:01
Speaker 1: sort of gang infested county because he was such an
26:04
Speaker 1: incredible canine. He was such a deterrence. He never failed.
26:07
Speaker 1: And one horrible evening, six suspects were wanted for autos
26:12
Speaker 1: theft and had fled into the forest. Canine Joker was
26:15
Speaker 1: deployed off leash. You know, the deputy let go of
26:18
Speaker 1: the leash for him to apprehend the suspects, and when
26:21
Speaker 1: Joker didn't come back, body cam footage shows deputy running
26:27
Speaker 1: through the forest frantically looking for his partner and finds
26:31
Speaker 1: him in a pool of blood, shot numerous times in
26:33
Speaker 1: the face. He eventually had an incredible rescue story faced
26:38
Speaker 1: through his partner who was a Marine Corps veteran and
26:40
Speaker 1: had just deployed that returned from deployment. The canine Joker
26:45
Speaker 1: was saved, miraculously nursed back to life, large part due
26:50
Speaker 1: to the prayers of the entire nation, and on his
26:52
Speaker 1: first day back at work when he was restored to
26:55
Speaker 1: full service, he was deployed at that same wood and
26:59
Speaker 1: that safe Marine Corps veteran also responded to that call,
27:03
Speaker 1: and Joker successfully apprehended the suspect. But Nancy, here's why
27:07
Speaker 1: this is my favorite story or among them, because up
27:10
Speaker 1: until then in Tennessee, dogs were treated simply as as
27:15
Speaker 1: material as inanimate objects, and there was zero penalty essentially
27:19
Speaker 1: for killing or a celtine, a law enforcement canine, or
27:23
Speaker 1: a horse or anything. And after that night, because of
27:26
Speaker 1: the lobbying efforts on behalf of canine Joker, now it
27:30
Speaker 1: just passed in July of this year. The new law
27:32
Speaker 1: says that anyone who knowingly unlawfully harms the police dog
27:36
Speaker 1: is now a Class B felony and that perp can
27:39
Speaker 1: go to prison for up to thirty years. So that
27:42
Speaker 1: is what changed the nation, and that is what changes
27:45
Speaker 1: future lives and future souls of our incredible canine working dogs.
27:49
Speaker 1: Up until then, there was no penalty, no accountability for
27:52
Speaker 1: these purps who horribly name and beat and as Secret
27:57
Speaker 1: Service Marshal Monroccary story told us, really without abandoned can
28:01
Speaker 1: fight these canines that are part of our families as
28:03
Speaker 1: well as officers in the law. So that to me
28:07
Speaker 1: is a success story. Through and through. You're hearing the
28:09
Speaker 1: voice of Emily Campano, co host of Outnumbered on Fox
28:12
Speaker 1: and hosts of Hero Dogs on Fox Nations. She's telling
28:15
Speaker 1: you about Joker. Listen to this. They're still going They
28:19
Speaker 1: bail off Joker here here. His drive was different than
28:23
Speaker 1: the other dogs. He was able to track, make apprehensions
28:27
Speaker 1: and do than our caught ex words Jim Joker. He
28:30
Speaker 1: was immediate that we realize how good he was. Er
28:35
Speaker 1: the word got passed around. If his Joker come in
28:38
Speaker 1: after you he will find you every time. Get him
28:41
Speaker 1: Joking doesn't bark, and he began barking. Suddenly one of
28:44
Speaker 1: the subjects each on his waistband and pulled a weapon.
28:47
Speaker 1: Don't get out, Do not get out. Joker will be
28:51
Speaker 1: the poster K nine of every law enforcement K nine
28:54
Speaker 1: in this country. Found six subjects jumped out. I deploy
28:59
Speaker 1: canine Joker. We're pretty certain they're armed. Complete darkness, thick,
29:04
Speaker 1: can't see Hey, where are you lost track cocaine? I
29:07
Speaker 1: we thought we heard shots. Oh no, Bro, you're hearing
29:13
Speaker 1: actual body cam sound. Joker was shot in the face. Emily, Yes, ma'am.
29:19
Speaker 1: And the footage is incredibly graphic, incredibly graphic of that
29:23
Speaker 1: episode of Hero Dogs on Sposphination because it has all
29:26
Speaker 1: the bodycam footings. And I'm just imagining what you're talking about, Emily,
29:30
Speaker 1: that it was very heavily wooded. They're looking for the PURBs,
29:34
Speaker 1: it's dark, you can't see anything, and they send in
29:37
Speaker 1: Joker and then they hear gunshots. That's what it sounded
29:41
Speaker 1: like to me, Emily. And I think it was a
29:43
Speaker 1: succession of miracles because to that point, Nancy, the woods
29:47
Speaker 1: were miles and miles and miles where, and so the
29:49
Speaker 1: fact that they even located Joker, who wasn't sparking, you know,
29:53
Speaker 1: because he had been shot, so he was just lying
29:55
Speaker 1: in a pool of blood. It was silent out there,
29:58
Speaker 1: and yet they sound him in the nick of time,
30:01
Speaker 1: and the rest of the counties, the neighboring counties all
30:04
Speaker 1: banded together to shut down all of the intersection so
30:07
Speaker 1: that when the deputies were racing him to the emergency veterinarian,
30:12
Speaker 1: they were able to get there as fast as possible.
30:14
Speaker 1: So it was really this team effort, succession after succession
30:18
Speaker 1: of miracles that enables Canine Joker to survive. Man, you've
30:21
Speaker 1: got the greatest job in town. Unite that, Emily right.
30:25
Speaker 1: Emily not only is co host Outnumbered on Fox, she
30:29
Speaker 1: is a host of Hero Dogs on Fox Nation, which
30:33
Speaker 1: is incredible. We have so many hero dogs I'm trying
30:38
Speaker 1: to get to. Let's take a listen to story about
30:42
Speaker 1: Betty Oh. It is the stuff of Hollywood movies. A
30:45
Speaker 1: flash fire starts in a detached garage. The young man
30:48
Speaker 1: working inside pretty badly burned. The garage gets engulfed in flames.
30:53
Speaker 1: The house is just about to catch fire as well.
30:55
Speaker 1: So what happens, the family dog runs to get hell.
30:58
Speaker 1: Part of the amazing as caught on tape by state
31:01
Speaker 1: troopers dash cam. Take a look, there's Buddy. You can
31:05
Speaker 1: see him leading the trooper down the road. Alaska Trooper
31:08
Speaker 1: Terrence Shanigan was trying to find the address where the
31:11
Speaker 1: fire was burning, but his GPS unit had frozen. He
31:14
Speaker 1: couldn't figure out what Roadie was supposed to take. Suddenly,
31:17
Speaker 1: out of nowhere, Buddy, the German shepherd appears. The trooper
31:20
Speaker 1: followed him through a couple of turns right to the
31:23
Speaker 1: burning house and the injured owner. How in the world
31:27
Speaker 1: did Buddy know to find the trooper number one and
31:31
Speaker 1: lead him to the Burnie home, saving the owner. It's
31:36
Speaker 1: an incredible story. Time Stories with Nancy Grace. I know
31:55
Speaker 1: about another incredible dog. His name is Chewy, and joining
31:59
Speaker 1: me right now is Chewy's owner, Deborah Grahams. Deborah, thank
32:05
Speaker 1: you for being with us. Tell me about Chewy. Showey
32:08
Speaker 1: Is was a rescue dog. He showed up on our
32:11
Speaker 1: front porch Thanksgiving four years ago. He had been tied
32:15
Speaker 1: to a tree and left. We suspects he was about
32:17
Speaker 1: twenty five pounds underweight, and so we took him in
32:21
Speaker 1: and nourished him back to house. And on June thirtieth
32:27
Speaker 1: this year, we were at home. I was working at
32:30
Speaker 1: home and he came into my office and was pulling, pulling,
32:34
Speaker 1: pulling on my shirt to take him outside, which he
32:37
Speaker 1: does when he needs to go out. So I took
32:39
Speaker 1: him outside for a walk and he was pulling me
32:42
Speaker 1: to the side of the house, which was pretty annoying
32:44
Speaker 1: because he normally wants to walk down the street. So
32:47
Speaker 1: I just took him around and then I'm like, okay,
32:50
Speaker 1: let's go back in the house, and you just would
32:51
Speaker 1: not stop. He just kept pulling, pulling, pulling, and so
32:55
Speaker 1: we walked around to the side of the house and
32:57
Speaker 1: we could smell it, very faint smell of gas. But
33:02
Speaker 1: it was, you know, just before the weekend of fourth
33:04
Speaker 1: of July, so we thought maybe people were starting to barbecue,
33:08
Speaker 1: you know, could it be charcoal. Wasn't really sure. So
33:11
Speaker 1: I went back in the house and sat down and
33:13
Speaker 1: I was thinking about it, and here he starts pulling
33:15
Speaker 1: on my pants leg. He's really bothering me. So we
33:18
Speaker 1: go outside again. It's a little stronger, and I thought, well,
33:23
Speaker 1: it's just bizarre, So I said to my mother, which
33:26
Speaker 1: I have my eighty four year old mother with stage
33:29
Speaker 1: four cancer. As that Liza with me, I said, I've
33:30
Speaker 1: got to call the fire department. I just can't take
33:33
Speaker 1: a chance. And so he's really I mean, he will
33:35
Speaker 1: not stay in the house. He's making me go outside.
33:37
Speaker 1: So I call the fire department and they come over
33:40
Speaker 1: and they immediately said, you have to evacuate the house.
33:42
Speaker 1: You have a very serious gas leak. Your pipe from
33:46
Speaker 1: the outside natural gas has broken in half here and
33:50
Speaker 1: the gas is pouring out. You have to evacuate the
33:52
Speaker 1: house immediately. So I made everyone get out of the
33:55
Speaker 1: house and take the dogs in my car, and I
33:57
Speaker 1: stayed and waited, you know, for them the gas department
34:00
Speaker 1: to come and shut off the gas and all that.
34:01
Speaker 1: But you know, the fire department said, you know, your
34:04
Speaker 1: dog could have saved your life. Because it's Fourth of
34:07
Speaker 1: July weekend. You could have had an explosion here had
34:10
Speaker 1: he not alerted you. Because it was on the side
34:13
Speaker 1: of the house. We never go there, and you know,
34:16
Speaker 1: unless you're just standing over there, you're not gonna smell it.
34:19
Speaker 1: I would never have known. What kind of a dog
34:22
Speaker 1: do you think he is? Well, we had his DNA
34:24
Speaker 1: done once we decided to keep him, of course, and
34:27
Speaker 1: he's thirty seven and a half percent lab and then
34:31
Speaker 1: twelve and a half percent Boxer, twelve and a half
34:34
Speaker 1: percent German Shepherd and twenty five percent American Staffordshire Terrier,
34:40
Speaker 1: and so he's he's a fourth generation mud basically according
34:45
Speaker 1: to his DNA. What does he look like? Does he
34:47
Speaker 1: look like a German Shepherd or what does he look like? Now?
34:50
Speaker 1: You know what he looks He looks in between a
34:53
Speaker 1: Golden Retriever and kind of like a I mean, he's
34:58
Speaker 1: got a reddish code. I mean, he's a beautiful dog.
35:01
Speaker 1: Oh I'm looking at him right now. Oh my goodness,
35:05
Speaker 1: he's beautiful. He's very laid back, easy guilty dog. You
35:09
Speaker 1: know what's interesting when you were telling me what he
35:12
Speaker 1: looks like. To Tracy Sargeant with Search and rescue recovery
35:15
Speaker 1: expert on the Seeker's Quest who has handled cadaver dogs,
35:21
Speaker 1: all types of canines, Tracy, we always think of a
35:27
Speaker 1: dog that works with police looking like maybe a German Shepherd.
35:31
Speaker 1: But we came back from overseas recently and guess who
35:36
Speaker 1: was smelling all the suitcases? A beagle dog and It
35:40
Speaker 1: was so cute, but it was serious. This is a
35:44
Speaker 1: very serious beagle dog. And he had on his law
35:48
Speaker 1: enforcement vest and he was all up in the luggage. Okay,
35:53
Speaker 1: So it doesn't matter what kind of a dog it is,
35:56
Speaker 1: that's correct, Nancy. In fact, it's interesting you mentioned and
36:00
Speaker 1: what they called the Beagle Brigade that is used in airports,
36:04
Speaker 1: and they're through the Department of Agricultural Department to detect
36:08
Speaker 1: certain things that come into our country that may jeopardize
36:12
Speaker 1: or threatened our agricultural products, as well as other things.
36:16
Speaker 1: I can tell her. I was coming back from too.
36:18
Speaker 1: I went with Natalie Holloway's mother to Aruba to retrace
36:21
Speaker 1: Natalie's steps, and then we heard everything was held up
36:27
Speaker 1: because of a drug dog, a canine dog. And I
36:30
Speaker 1: was expecting a big, mean looking German shepherd. It was
36:33
Speaker 1: this most precious beagle dog just climbing up on everything,
36:38
Speaker 1: and everybody got a big smile on their face, even
36:41
Speaker 1: though we were having to wait a long time because
36:43
Speaker 1: of this beagle dog. So the type of dog doesn't
36:46
Speaker 1: really matter, right, Tracy. Absolutely, What I think is the
36:50
Speaker 1: keystone to these dogs is that they all have instinct. Yeah,
36:54
Speaker 1: first and foremost, but instinct to want to be in
36:56
Speaker 1: a pack, to be to have that bond with other
36:59
Speaker 1: pack men, whether it's four legged or two legged. Then
37:03
Speaker 1: when we look at the Boutible Grace and these police
37:06
Speaker 1: dogs and things like that, they have instincts in dry
37:09
Speaker 1: that we simply channel to benefit. Well, I gotta tell
37:14
Speaker 1: you something. You're gonna find this hard to believe, but
37:17
Speaker 1: I have often said that the best witness I ever
37:21
Speaker 1: put on the stand was a dog. Penny Douglas, for
37:25
Speaker 1: you were I remember in and out of the courtroom
37:28
Speaker 1: in one of your cases when this happened. There's a
37:30
Speaker 1: drug lord in Atlanta, in one of the worst housing
37:34
Speaker 1: projects in Atlanta, and he had everything, and we were suspicious,
37:38
Speaker 1: why does this guy have Lamborghini? Why does he this that? Well,
37:43
Speaker 1: based on probable cause, there was a search, the cops
37:46
Speaker 1: found nothing. The dog kept hitting against a wall turned
37:51
Speaker 1: out to be a false wall, and behind it was
37:54
Speaker 1: a ton of money and drugs, and the defense challenge
37:58
Speaker 1: to the search, and I had to bring the dog
38:00
Speaker 1: on okay, and we did an experiment in the courtroom
38:04
Speaker 1: where he found cocaine I had hidden all around the courtroom.
38:08
Speaker 1: The dog was a star witness. You remember that, Penny
38:10
Speaker 1: Douglas fur. I remember it, and I remember the defense
38:14
Speaker 1: was objecting like crazy, and I said, hey, listen, feel
38:17
Speaker 1: free to cross examine him anyway. That dog won that case. Hey,
38:22
Speaker 1: Angie would joining me the atlanted dog whisperer. She's a
38:26
Speaker 1: dog behavior as specializing in treating and rehabilitating dogs. Angie,
38:30
Speaker 1: what do you make of what you're hearing? Oh? Gosh, dogs,
38:33
Speaker 1: those is truly their superpower. I don't know. I don't
38:36
Speaker 1: walk down the sidewalk and give into the grass and
38:38
Speaker 1: since things. It's amazing. So they can smell the smallest
38:41
Speaker 1: of particles. It's proven. I'm sure Penny can tell you that.
38:45
Speaker 1: You know. The bloodhound is I think the the truly
38:49
Speaker 1: admissible evidence in court that can smell you going down
38:52
Speaker 1: the road to your car vents. It's just really amazing
38:55
Speaker 1: and very hard for we verbal species to wrap our
38:58
Speaker 1: brain around. You know, I've got so many examples of
39:01
Speaker 1: dog heroes to go through with you, saving children's lives,
39:06
Speaker 1: saving lives of people that were stranded holding onto a
39:10
Speaker 1: log and rushing water. It goes on and on and on.
39:14
Speaker 1: But I want to hear from you, my human guests,
39:18
Speaker 1: Marshall and Moroky. What do you make of our furry
39:22
Speaker 1: heroes we're talking about today. You know, our heroes have
39:26
Speaker 1: always been doing this. We're just seeing it more now
39:28
Speaker 1: with CCTV and cameras and ring doorbells. We're catching it all.
39:33
Speaker 1: But dogs have been have always been doing this stuff
39:35
Speaker 1: for for humans, whether it's you know, in the military,
39:38
Speaker 1: with the police department, or you know, regular everyday pets
39:42
Speaker 1: saving people's lives. I think it's amazing that you're you know,
39:45
Speaker 1: highlighting it, bringing light to this, just like Emily does
39:47
Speaker 1: with hero dogs and the charitable stuff. It's it's such
39:51
Speaker 1: a great thing to see these dogs being recognized. You know,
39:54
Speaker 1: they really are heroes, and these everyday stories just they
39:58
Speaker 1: really hit home with you know, the effect they have
40:00
Speaker 1: on people's families and people's lives. They really do. Karen
40:03
Speaker 1: start and you know that fat boy goes everywhere with me,
40:07
Speaker 1: I do. The only time he'll leave me is that
40:09
Speaker 1: one of the twins come in the room. What is
40:11
Speaker 1: that bond? I mean, I hate to tell the cat
40:13
Speaker 1: in the guinea pigs, but the dog really is man's
40:16
Speaker 1: best friend. Oh and really they were domesticated so long ago.
40:21
Speaker 1: That connection is incredible. Think about a mon and you're
40:25
Speaker 1: a mon, Nancy, and extraordinary things that they do when
40:30
Speaker 1: their children are in trouble, being able to lift the card,
40:33
Speaker 1: the stories that we hear about. It's the same thing
40:36
Speaker 1: with dogs. When they are attached to you, they will
40:40
Speaker 1: do anything. They will sacrifice themselves. They have that bond,
40:44
Speaker 1: that maternal bond that they will never ever let me
40:48
Speaker 1: be in trouble if they can help it. Penny Douglas
40:50
Speaker 1: for away in how many dogs do you have running
40:52
Speaker 1: through your house right now? I have four, Nancy, but
40:56
Speaker 1: he's gigantic Rottweilers. Now, well, one is the present scenario
41:02
Speaker 1: once about wiler, and one's a mixed breed. But one thing, okay,
41:07
Speaker 1: glad you clarified, they're not at all dangerous. Go ahead.
41:10
Speaker 1: One thing I wanted to make sure and bring out
41:13
Speaker 1: is that dogs can also read emotion. And I don't
41:17
Speaker 1: think anybody's brought that out yet, because once we did
41:21
Speaker 1: some rescues with white Wilers, and one guy had adopted
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Speaker 1: one and wanted to send him back. He said, he's
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Speaker 1: not mean enough. I want him here to protect my family.
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Speaker 1: No matter how many times I said, if somebody starts
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Speaker 1: to attack somebody in your family and they get scared.
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Speaker 1: You'll see him turn. Oh yeah, speaking of turning, I
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Speaker 1: went to Penny's home to deliver her a file. I
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Speaker 1: rang the doorbell. I saw nothing but teeth and it
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Speaker 1: was at my face level. The dog was jumping up
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Speaker 1: at my face level and all the world were teeth. Well,
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Speaker 1: let me just say I went to the car and
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Speaker 1: called it on the cell phone. Now, this is a
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Speaker 1: same dog. They gets in bed with Penny and she
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Speaker 1: feeds it peanut butter. So that said, obviously there are
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Speaker 1: two different size. What do you make of at Deborah
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Speaker 1: Grahams give me your thoughts. Well, all I can say
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Speaker 1: is is that there's nobody that's ever going to get
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Speaker 1: into my house and hurt my family between my dogs
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Speaker 1: and myself, because my dogs will protect our family from anything.
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Speaker 1: With the codies that are around, the intruders that are
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Speaker 1: breaking into people's houses like crazy. Now, I mean, you know,
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Speaker 1: they're just They're gonna make sure that you're safe no
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Speaker 1: matter what. Yes, dogs are so loyal, just like family
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Speaker 1: members because pack and family are synonyms, and they come
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Speaker 1: to help if you need trouble. I'm sorry if you're
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Speaker 1: in trouble and you need them. Tracy, Yes, I would
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Speaker 1: say the analogy that we hear oftentimes is so true.
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Speaker 1: That's man's best friend. Not to take away the finding
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Speaker 1: connection we hope with other animals. There's any big scats
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Speaker 1: and horses and other animals, but there's no bond and
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Speaker 1: no relationship in the world and really in history what
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Speaker 1: we have with dogs. Guys, these stories and so many
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Speaker 1: others that are all true, miraculous stories of hero pets.
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Speaker 1: As we enter into twenty twenty three, looking back on
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Speaker 1: all the crimes we've fought and all the stories we've covered,
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Speaker 1: I want to go into twenty twenty three thinking about
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Speaker 1: everything good, Happy New Year, goodbye friend.