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- 0:08Hi, I'm Danny Tan and if you are here, you are in the right
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- 0:40So let's make some moves. Hello.
- 0:47So today we're going to talk about how you are not failing,
- 0:50you are just leading through uncertainty.
- 0:53And so this is for you. If you are a high performer, if
- 0:56you are a leader, if you are somebody who is just really
- 1:00ambitious, but you kind of just feel like you're falling behind.
- 1:03I just want you to realize and understand that you're not
- 1:05necessarily falling behind. You're probably and most likely
- 1:08just leading through ambiguity and growth and the unknown and
- 1:11that uncertainty. So let's go ahead and break it
- 1:13down South phase one. This may hit home for you.
- 1:17We identify with this, but what you think is failure might just
- 1:20be uncertainty. So maybe you're not failing,
- 1:22you're not dropping the ball, but uncertainty has just come
- 1:25and has arisen. So what does that kind of feel
- 1:27like? It feels like the milestones are
- 1:29maybe murky. You're like unsure.
- 1:30We're supposed to be hitting and targeting the metrics of like,
- 1:33OK, did this work? Did it not are not always clear.
- 1:36And you just kind of feel like you're in uncharted territory.
- 1:39You're not sure where you are, where you're supposed to be.
- 1:41So it can feel like failure because when you are either
- 1:43growing or things are uncertain or things are evolving, the
- 1:47uncertainty kind of can sometimes make us feel like we
- 1:49are failing or make us feel like we're behind.
- 1:51But in reality, it's just like that lack of clarity and
- 1:54understanding. So this uncertainty can
- 1:56sometimes show up as like you're overthinking, You're on the same
- 1:59loop. You're kind of obsessing over
- 2:01these things of like, did I not get it done?
- 2:03Am I not doing it right? Then this self doubt starts to
- 2:05creep in of like, am I the right person to be doing this?
- 2:08Can I do this? Am I have the expertise and
- 2:10experience to do this? And then you start to like hide
- 2:12from the things that you probably are, the things you
- 2:15need to tackle, whether that's like a visibility, whether
- 2:17that's it's marketing, whether that's just having a plan,
- 2:19whether that's doing that outreach, you start to hide.
- 2:22And so this is what I say when really it may feel like failure,
- 2:26but in truly it is probably just uncertainty that is coming up.
- 2:30And that's when these things feel murky or unclear and they
- 2:33start to have the self doubt creep and the overthinking come
- 2:36in and kind of makes us creep away.
- 2:38And so just want, you know, one of my clients, they are a
- 2:41founder and they started to feel really stuck and like they're
- 2:44like, I don't think my business is real.
- 2:46I don't think my business is like really a solidified thing.
- 2:49It kind of just feels like it's just something that I like to do
- 2:52for fun. But it wasn't because they
- 2:55didn't want to see a business, but it was just because they
- 2:56felt really uncertain. They're like, I'm not hitting
- 2:59these goals that I have set up for myself.
- 3:00And I said, OK, well, let's like talk about that.
- 3:02When we started to kind of like dig in of why she felt like her
- 3:05business wasn't real and why she wasn't able to hit these goals
- 3:08is the bigger issue was that she didn't necessarily know what
- 3:11direction she wanted the business to go in.
- 3:13She had set this monthly target for herself of what she wanted
- 3:15to hit for like revenue and sales.
- 3:17But she never really like sat down and was like, OK, what is
- 3:20my mission for this business? How do I want to break that down
- 3:23in the work that I'm doing? And how is that reflecting in my
- 3:26day-to-day of like do the things that I do day-to-day, these
- 3:28tasks, these actions, do they actually, you know, layer up
- 3:32into what it is that I want to do?
- 3:34And so we just, we clarified her vision, OK?
- 3:36And we made sure that whenever she was feeling stuck, how can
- 3:40we give her a step by step framework of how to make faster
- 3:42decisions to get her where she needs to go?
- 3:44Because here's the biggest thing.
- 3:46Once you had a better understanding of like what her
- 3:47overall vision was and how she wanted to break that down into
- 3:51steps by a month, then we could layer in the part of like
- 3:53hitting civic revenue goals by a month.
- 3:55But it's always bigger to look at what's the biggest plan that
- 3:58you want to go ahead and hit and then break them down by quarter.
- 4:02So you give yourself some grace every single quarter You don't
- 4:03like, oh, I didn't hit it this month, so I'm a failure.
- 4:05You can give yourself like 1/4, which gives you a three months
- 4:07grace period to kind of figure out how to action and tweak.
- 4:10And then also if she felt like she was getting like just
- 4:12decision fatigue or just in all honesty, she was just like
- 4:15freezing on it. How can we give her a framework
- 4:18that's like 123 for support system, how to make a decision?
- 4:21So that's something that we worked on too, which I usually
- 4:23run with my clients when it comes to doing a time audit of
- 4:26how are you using your time isn't alignment with the things
- 4:28that you're trying to achieve? And then what would be your
- 4:30ideal? Then how we start to edit and
- 4:31tweak so that way every single time you have to make a
- 4:33decision, you're actually going through a filter of how you want
- 4:36your weeks to be shaved out based off what you want your
- 4:38goals to do. So that was something that was
- 4:40really helpful for her. So I would say the reflection
- 4:43question that I have for you is what are you calling failure
- 4:46when it's actually just a foggy phase of growth.
- 4:49So maybe you're trying to get to that next part within your
- 4:52project, your business, your life, and it kind of feels like
- 4:55failure. But in reality, it's just like a
- 4:57foggy phase where you just need to create some understanding,
- 4:59some clarity and a plan for yourself.
- 5:01And so the next phase that I would say is that when it comes
- 5:05to that, you're not leading, but you're not failing, excuse me,
- 5:07you're just leading through ambiguity or uncertainty is
- 5:09leaders just don't always get a map.
- 5:11Like you don't get a map, especially if you are a founder,
- 5:15a business owner, or even just building things out for your
- 5:18team with an organization. Leaders don't always get a map.
- 5:21They have to build it themselves.
- 5:23And so when you know that there is no outline, there is no
- 5:26blueprint, there is no playbook insert word, and you have to do
- 5:29it yourself and you're building something new or you're stepping
- 5:31into something new. There is this immense pressure
- 5:34to feel like you, you have to get it right.
- 5:35And when you have this pressure on yourself, if I have to get it
- 5:37right, it starts to block your creativity.
- 5:40It starts to block your ability to use the part of your brain
- 5:42that helps create strategy. And then you start to lose
- 5:45stress in yourself because you're like, Oh my gosh, I have
- 5:47to get it right. I have to make the perfect
- 5:48decision, the perfect choices, pick the perfect tech, make have
- 5:51the perfect clients, have the perfect marketing and just get
- 5:54it all right. Because if I don't, then I'm
- 5:56going to fail. And if I fail, it's not going to
- 5:57work. And then what have I done?
- 5:59And so here's the thing, you putting this pressure on
- 6:02yourself of having to get things right or do them in a certain
- 6:05way is blocking your ability to think creatively, blocking your
- 6:09ability to be strategic because you're in the survival mode of
- 6:13trying to perfect things. And then you start to lose trust
- 6:16in yourself and your ability to do it.
- 6:18So what's more important than anything is progress.
- 6:20Progress is going to be much, much, much more important before
- 6:24anything is going to be visible of what your plan or outline
- 6:27should be. So how can you take imperfect
- 6:30action? How can you you take messy
- 6:31action just to create some progress for yourself?
- 6:34So then you can start to lay out what that plan it looks like for
- 6:37you and knowing that you're allowed to change, edit, evolve
- 6:40any way you see fit. I had a client who was going
- 6:43from being a manager level to a bigger executive leadership
- 6:45role. And she kept second guessing
- 6:47herself honestly. Like she was really, really sure
- 6:49at her job at the manager level. She knew what to do.
- 6:51She knew who to hire, she knew how to train.
- 6:53But when she got to the executive level, she was like, I
- 6:55don't know, I feel like I'm the youngest one here.
- 6:59I feel like I'm one of the only women here.
- 7:00I don't know if my voice is going to be heard.
- 7:02I don't know if my ideas are going to land the same way they
- 7:04did before. But you just started second
- 7:06guessing herself, like left and right.
- 7:07And it was because she didn't feel like she had a playbook or
- 7:09a map out in front of her. So the biggest thing that we did
- 7:11was we mapped out her priorities and clarified how does she want
- 7:15to lead, right? That what's most important for
- 7:17her, for her leadership and what she, how she wants to show up,
- 7:20what are her priorities and her plans and her vision for her
- 7:22team, for herself and for her organization.
- 7:25And once we had those ideas and thoughts and beliefs laid out
- 7:28and what was important to her and those priorities, we mapped
- 7:31them out into a plan. When we mapped them out into a
- 7:33plan, it allowed her to understand, OK, how do I engage
- 7:36with myself? How do I check in with myself?
- 7:39How do I engage with my direct reports and how do I check in
- 7:42with them? And how do I show up within the
- 7:43executive team when I'm in board meetings?
- 7:45This was a big change for her because she didn't have a plan
- 7:49given to her on how to do this and we don't get that when we
- 7:51are either Co founders leaders and we're going into different
- 7:54spaces where we had not been before.
- 7:56We have to create some kind of outline and structure for
- 7:59ourselves to create security in our brains which allows us to be
- 8:02able to open up space and time and remove the pressure blocks
- 8:06that we have for us. So we can tend be more strategic
- 8:08and more creative answer to build trust in ourselves because
- 8:11we have built something out for our brains to feel safe about
- 8:14it. So the question that I would
- 8:16have for you and this is the prompt would be what would you
- 8:19change if you stop, you know waiting for certainty, if you
- 8:22started waiting to get it right. So what would you change and how
- 8:26can you get that started now? So is there something currently
- 8:29that you are just waiting for the right answer?
- 8:32If so, how can you take messy imperfect action to have
- 8:37progress towards that? Now that is a question that I
- 8:39have for you. So a thought could be if you're
- 8:41building a business and you're super worried about marketing
- 8:43that you don't know where to start and what is the right
- 8:45channel for you, What can you do to take one simple step forward
- 8:50with that right now by picking one and just experimenting to
- 8:53see how it goes. That's the biggest thing is like
- 8:55getting the reps and by taking the Band-Aid off and just
- 8:57getting started. So the last piece when it comes
- 8:59to you're not failing, you're probably just leading through
- 9:02uncertainty and growth is you can lead with clarity, even the
- 9:06unknown. What does that even mean?
- 9:08So clarity doesn't mean that you have to have all the answers.
- 9:12It means that you're making decisions based on your values,
- 9:15your direction, and what's needed most right now.
- 9:18I'm gonna repeat that one more time.
- 9:20Clarity doesn't mean having all the answers.
- 9:22It means having it means making decisions based on your values,
- 9:27direction, and what's most needed right now.
- 9:29So leaders can create certainty for others and for themselves by
- 9:33showing up in their process grounded and what their values
- 9:38are and direction that they have is a vision.
- 9:39So progress is often it can be quiet, it can be slow, it can be
- 9:43steady until it's not. But here's the thing, you have
- 9:46to take those steps forward. So versus feeling like you have
- 9:48to have all the right answers, just knowing that if you know
- 9:51what your values and your direction is and your goals are,
- 9:54knowing that as long as you're trying to take steps forward
- 9:56towards that, you are going to be able to get to where you want
- 10:00to go, even if it feels a little bit unfamiliar.
- 10:02So I had a founder who was struggling to balance strategy
- 10:05and execution. She kept trying to, not trying
- 10:08to, but she kept falling into the execution piece.
- 10:12We really needed her to lead into the strategy piece because
- 10:14she had built out a team that could help work through this,
- 10:17but she felt a little scattered and unsure.
- 10:18And so the biggest thing was again, like building what is the
- 10:21weekly structure that prioritizes the vision and the
- 10:24direction that she wants the business to go into?
- 10:26When she did that weekly structure, it helps her
- 10:28understand, OK, then what are the things you should be working
- 10:32on every single week that helps move that forward, right?
- 10:34What are the different check insurance you can have with
- 10:36different team members that can help move that forward?
- 10:38And what decisions can she leave to different team members to
- 10:41help overall move forward her values and directions?
- 10:44So even if like the clarity doesn't feel there, like what is
- 10:46the perfect marketing for you? Or if the clarity doesn't feel
- 10:49there, like what is the perfect client archetype for you or the
- 10:51clarity isn't there, what is the perfect piece of tech for you to
- 10:53use? It's just being able to make
- 10:55sure that you're structuring your week that has the elements
- 10:58that can help continue to help you move and progress forward
- 11:01towards that. And then you'll start to shoot
- 11:03the clarity of what is looking for you versus not from a
- 11:05marketing piece or a tech piece or a client piece.
- 11:07But you have to get started and begin with a place of intention,
- 11:12not reactivity. Because a lot of time we are
- 11:14reactive about the things that we need to do and we're just
- 11:17jumping to the fire drills and the fires that are coming up
- 11:19every single time. And the reality is we have to be
- 11:21like, if this is my goal, what are the intentional steps that I
- 11:23can kind of take an experiment towards that.
- 11:25So for you, how can you create a sense of structure or clarity
- 11:29even when you don't know what's next?
- 11:30How can you create some structure or clarity for
- 11:32yourself? So for example, if you're trying
- 11:33to find a new, but you're not sure where you want that new job
- 11:35to because you're trying to do a pivot or a career change, how
- 11:38can you put structure and clarity in your life right now?
- 11:41Could that just be by making sure every single week you're
- 11:43dedicating one to two hours on Friday where you're researching
- 11:46different roles or taking inventory on what your interests
- 11:49are? If you're somebody who is
- 11:51building an app or building a product and you're kind of
- 11:54unsure of what should be next, how can you be taking some
- 11:58building, some sense of structure or clarity for
- 12:00yourself? Whether that is going to meet
- 12:02apps or groups to just make sure that you're having conversations
- 12:04about what it takes to build an app or how to build a product.
- 12:07These are different ways that when you are growing, you can
- 12:10see that it's not that you are failing.
- 12:11You're just going through a time of uncertainty and growth and
- 12:15change. And this is how you can go ahead
- 12:17and create some safety around it so you feel less like you are
- 12:20failing and more so that you are making progress for it.
- 12:22So, and I hope you found this helpful.
- 12:24As you can tell, this is something about I do many times
- 12:28over with my clients and that's something of interest to you.
- 12:30You can go ahead to my website at dannytan.com, that's DANITA
- 12:33n.com and learn more about coaching and working together.
- 12:36But hopefully this had a little nugget in here that you can take
- 12:39away to know that you are not a failure.
- 12:41You are just leading through some uncertainty and some growth
- 12:43right now. And there are some steps that
- 12:44you can take to create some clarity for yourself.
- 12:47So amazing and have a great one.