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A.I. EP. 254: “Meet Me In Montauk” - Eternal Sunshine Of The Spotless Mind 20th Anniversary · The Avid Indoorsmen

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  The sun is shining out the cloud in the sky. We wouldn't know because
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  we're so happy inside. Some people on some skis, but we would rather
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  sit on down and talk some movies. We're the avid Indoorsmen. Come listen
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  to our show. We're the evid Indoorsmen at home around the goal, We're
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  the avid Indoorsmen. We hope you love it, so come on in and
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  stay. We'll do our best to make you smile with the indoors man.
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  What is happening? I'm round Lundquist, good, I am bugs and we
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  are the avid Indoorsmen? Are every one? Hello? Hello? What's going
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  on? Buddy? That much? Man? I'm just kind of hanging out.
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  Uh got warm today? That was something oh so humid. Yeah,
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  it has now dropped considerably. I think it's supposed to storm now tonight.
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  Oh yeah. I am headed up to the Northland to do something camping and
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  canoeing, so that'll be for getting the bad weather out of the way,
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  that's right. I would rather have it here than there, that's for sure.
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  So for sure, looks like it's gonna be nice and cool and chili
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  up there. I'm excited. That'll be fun. Man. Yeah, but
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  yeahn't that. Everything's great? How about you. I'm good. I'm getting
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  ready to go back to work. It's been a it's been a nice,
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  slow, love it month, and so yeah, I got to actually go
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  and do some stuff. We got CMA fest, We're gonna shoot some videos.
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  We're gonna get a couple oprys in. I think it's gonna be it's
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  gonna be a busy week. I love it. It's gonna be fun.
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  Man, it's gonna be fun getting back at it. Yeah, that's always.
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  I feel like it's always like, oh, yeah, do I remember
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  how to do this? Do I? Yeah? What am I doing here?
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  Okay? Cool? Yeah. Whenever we take off like a full month,
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  I'm like, okay, I should like go through the Songhand because even
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  though we've done it a million times, it's still just like, I don't
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  know, it's not there. It must also be weird because the kid's got
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  to be close to done with school right for the summer, so tomorrow is
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  their last day. It's like a weird transition time, like they're like yeah,
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  and you're like, cool, I'm gonna go work now for a while.
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  It's not too bad. I'm just gone for a week and then oh,
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  that's true. This is a light summer man, So it's kind of
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  nice though. That's great. It is nice time. We're gonna, yes,
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  gonna have a lot of fan time, going to do a lot of
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  fun stuff. Probably watched some movies and stuff. Oh but what was the
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  last movie you watch? A beautiful, beautiful segue. I'm continuing on my
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  make it Right list where I watch films I missed this time from nineteen hundred
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  and ninety four. I watched Leon the Professional. You did, Primal Fear,
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  and then Lee All the Professional. Yeah, nicely done, dude.
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  I definitely like, actually wrote down the ones where I was like, yeah,
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  I've never seen that from that one draft. Tell me what you thought
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  about The Professional. Ah, great movie, super compelling. I was very
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  uncomfortable with their relationship and I didn't like it, although I'm glad that was
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  mostly unfounded, which is good. I don't know. I was like,
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  there's a route that we could take here, and I don't want to take
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  it. But yeah, great movie, great acting performances. I mean,
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  Natalie Portman was so good. She was just little too. First thing,
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  she's so it's crazy. Gary Oldman's great already know it's so great. I
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  don't know, I just really liked it. I did feel like, it's
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  so funny with these movies that have these like cult followings, even if you
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  haven't seen them, you kind of know things from them, and so just
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  like little bits would come in and I'd be like, oh, that's what
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  this is, like, you know, like the milk stuff and the don't
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  open the briefcase and you know, all these things. You know, But
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  yeah, it was. It was really great. I liked it a lot.
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  I thought it was very fun. I see why everyone enjoys it so
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  much. It was pretty man. It just made me uncomfortable at points,
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  which is okay. It's okay, it's okay to be uncomfortable sometimes, you
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  know, go through those. Yeah. Yeah, but it was it was
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  fun to see so and now I can be like I saw that, you
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  saw it. I seen it. I don't know if i'd watch it again,
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  though I probably will. It's a fun like action e movie. But
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  yeah, the drama parts were they were all don't I haven't seen it more
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  than twice, I don't think really. Yeah, It's definitely not one of
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  those for me where I'm like, I'm gonna watch that all the time.
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  But it is super great and I'm glad I saw it for sure, for
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  sure. Yeah, how about you? What have you been watching? I
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  watched a movie that I know you saw and you liked, and yeah,
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  I had wanted to watch it and just hadn't gotten to it yet. So
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  finally did. There's a movie called the Greatest Beer Run Ever. Oh nice?
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  Yeah, that nice. There's on the Apple TV Plus machine. And
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  yeah, I did not know that. Peter Fairley helped write and direct it.
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  He we just did Dumb and Dumber and he, you know, did
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  that. I had no idea. I had no idea. Bill Murray was
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  in it and honestly very small role, so it's only in it for about
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  a total of six minutes maybe right, But that was a pleasant surprise.
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  Yeah, zach Efron is pretty great. It's a way out there story and
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  seems pretty improbable, but was based on a true story. Yeah that's crazy.
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  I want to know how much true story there is to it, you
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  know what I mean? Like, I know it's out there. Yeah all
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  right, but but yeah it was. It was a lot more than I
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  thought it was going to be. I thought it was going to be sillier
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  than it was. They really went into just like the politics of the Vietnam
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  War. We also had Russell Crow in it, and I don't know that
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  I remembered that either. Yeah, and he says a pretty big part he
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  does, and that part of the movie is pretty great. Actually, there's
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  some kind of cheesy dialogue in there. There's also this movie needed probably some
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  more money behind it to do some of the special effects type stuff they wanted
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  to do. Yeah, so it felt a little low budget in that sense,
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  but it's still it's it's still a good movie. Yeah, it's worth
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  checking out. I liked it for sure. I was like, oh,
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  this is this is pretty cool. It made me want to because I think
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  a book was written first and made me want to read the book. And
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  maybe you'd get a better idea of what actually happened there too, you know,
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  or how much for sure you know liberties were taken. I bet it's
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  a great book. Yeah, I agree, I bet it's a bit it's
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  amazing. But yeah, I had a lot of similar thoughts. I'm glad
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  you liked it. I did. It was fun lovely. Have you been
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  streaming anything fun? I did? I streamed a movie from twenty twelve.
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  This movie is called The Impossible. I don't know if you've ever heard of
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  that. Wow you do? Le just went through the list and watched The
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  Holy Cow. So this movie was so intense? Did you feel that way?
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  So intense? I liked it a lot though, And full disclosure,
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  I think I watched these pretty close to back to back, and I think
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  I watched The Impossible first, So maybe I was stressed out to the max
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  already. But yeah, tell tell the people what The Impossible is because a
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  lot of people don't know this movie. Yeah, I'd never heard of it
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  till you kind of had brought it up a couple of times. It's a
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  story of a family in Thailand when the two thousand and four tsunami happened in
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  the Indian Ocean, and it's insane, dude, Like it is super crazy.
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  Also at least partially based on a true story, which I didn't know
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  till the very end either. And yeah, it's basically like there's this family
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  of five, I think, and they get split up during the tsunami and
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  then it's just about their story of like, and the filming of the tsunami
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  is so intense it's so crazy, it's so nuts. Yeah, this movie
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  was amazing, and the reason it came up is I think we said this
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  is Tom Hollands first, right, Yep, yep, and he's spectacular in
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  it. I totally get like I feel like in my head, I was
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  like, wow, they let this guy be Spider Man, Like they really
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  took a chance. And now I'm a little bit more like, well,
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  I mean he had done this, which is not nothing. And I think
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  it was Billy Elliott, like on in the West End or something, oh
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  on stage. Okay, yeah, I don't in a movie. I don't
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  Elliott. I never saw that movie. But yeah, yeah, oh that
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  movie's lovely. You'd love that. Uh. Ewan McGregor is great, he's
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  the papa in this, and then Naomi Watts is fantastic in this. I
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  really really liked this movie. I could see myself watching that again. But
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  it is tough. There were boohoo's a plenty that I was stressed out in
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  that movie. Yeah, it's a stressful one. It's pretty wild, dude.
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  Yeah, but it was really well done and really great and maybe yeah,
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  I kind of don't understand how that one flew under the radar. For
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  me because there were a lot of people and it's such like a like it's
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  it's a disaster movie. It's I mean, I know, it seemed like
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  it should have been like a blockbustery kind of movie, but it's really interesting
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  that it wasn't for some reason. But yeah, I really liked that one
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  a lot. I had watching it. That's great, man, Yeah,
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  how about you? What are you streaming? I am on. I just
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  finished episode seven of season two of Yellowstone, and I think this is where
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  I stop. Oh no, it's season I know, and there's five seasons.
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  I just don't know if this is the show for me just as much
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  as I it's not even that. There's just too many ridiculous things that happen
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  for me to get behind it. And it's also another show where every main
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  character is super flawed, so there's like no redemption for someone please, for
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  love of God, they're all horrible. These horrible things happen now. But
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  there's always, like in every episode, like two or three scenes where I'm
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  just like, that is incredible acting and that is so good, and you're
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  like, so, I guess I'll keep watching even though I but I feel
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  gross and I just I think I'm done. You don't have to do that
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  to yourself. Don't do it. I think I'm done. And this is
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  how you and I have evolved. Because I also stopped watching a movie recently
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  because I was just like, this sucks. I'm out. Yeah, and
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  it was like a rom com. I liked the people. I was just
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  like, no, I done. Yeah, But I think we've grown in
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  that way, Like good for us for being able to draw those boundaries.
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  I mean, I know it's such a big deal and everybody's super into it,
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  but it's, uh, yeah, it doesn't make me feel good,
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  and it's gotta hit you the right way, right, Like we all watch
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  silly things. But if it's not interesting and it's you know, like it's
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  fine, Yeah, I support you. It's all I'm I had a little
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  bit of a run there. It was this season and a half, and
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  it's if people are interested in that sort of thing. I mean a lot
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  of people love it. I'm in the minority for sure, but that is
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  that's on peacock if you're if you're trying to watch it, yeah, and
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  different things at different people. You know. I watched some turrash and love
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  it, so I get it. I'm not judging well, and I've watched
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  way darker things too, but yeah, for whatever reason, it just me
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  that like there's no one to root for really makes things hard. It's why
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  I didn't love Succession. Now, Succession had acting that was amazing, like
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  the entire time, so I was just like, well, I'm gonna keep
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  going. But I didn't like, That's not an Alzheimer show for me because
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  I didn't love it, you know, yeah, because they all suck in
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  their own way for sure, you know, so I'm with you on that
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  for sure. Yeah. But what doesn't suck is social media. Do you
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  chill version, where we'll do a top five draft that pertains to the movie
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  we're talking about. And for this one we finally did it. Jesus our
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  top five characters with unnaturally dyed hairs. This one was a struggle. Okay,
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  we finally did it. We were going through and we were like,
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  should we do this genre this this? You just have done so many Simpsons
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  stead Simpsons. Our our guest actually came up with this one, and we
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  thank him for it. Thank God. Yes, we needed help so much.
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  And there's some fun ones there are there's not I was not able to
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  find a lot a lot. I don't know if you were, no,
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  no, and I came up with it was funny because I came up with
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  like seven nice and then as I was looking, I found all of those
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  almost exactly what I did. And then I was like, well, damn,
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  usually this makes my list super long. And now it's just like cool,
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  Yeah, I love it. Well, that's cool. We all we
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  will all look forward to that, Greg, It'll be super fun. So
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  what people were like, did he really just forget his friend's name? Greg?
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  What happened? My name's Rob. It's a movie quote. Focker.
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  Uh, we are here today to talk about a lovely film. Uh.
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  Just straight in line with Jim Carrey June The The Ultimate as he comes out
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  of his comedic cocoon and goes into drama. It seems it's the what is
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  it the twentieth anniversary right of the Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind? And
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  we had to just get the most spotless mind we know in our in our
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  group of friends, he generally helped us come up with that topic. Let's
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  welcome in back. It's Neil Gosh, what's up? Neil? Hello?
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  How's it going? Guys? It's going really well. Good to see you
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  man. Yeah, how are you? I am doing all right? We're
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  finally through another rainstorm in the Northwest and maybe have finally turned the corner into
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  summer weather. So fingers crossed, Yes, let's go. I love it.
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  I love it well that that humidity is doing great things for your hair
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  right now. I love it yet the downward angle, so it's like,
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  really, it's poofed. There's a man who only has the memory of hair
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  on my spotless mind. I had the craziest hair, some pretty good cabbage
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  the same pictures because we were talking about this the other day in reference to
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  a meme of like old timey characters and third fasal hair that had like the
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  big like old Dracula like lobes and use of saying his was not that far
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  off. So yeah, I was really pretty close. I was so shocked
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  that he was not a stoner when I first met him, I was like,
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  you was what with that hair? All the time he did. I
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  really threw people for a loop. I didn't real what. I never had
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  shoes on, like, I was always barefoot, my shorts, I didn't
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  have a lot of unusually Well that's true too. No, you're welcome for
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  all that, but yeah, well we're so pumped to have you here,
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  buddy, and have me here to talk about this movie. U and I
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  think we should just get right in there. What do you guys think.
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  Let's do it. Let's do it. Rental Sunshine up. The Spotless Mind
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  rob Getta started with a rough SYNOPSI alrighty. After a painful breakup, Clementine
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  undergoes a procedure to erase memories of her former boyfriend Joel from her mind.
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  When Joel discovers that Clementine is going to extremes to forget their relationship, he
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  undergoes the same procedure and slowly begins to forget the woman that he he loved.
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  The visually arresting film explores the intricacy of relationships and the pain of loss.
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  Sounds like a good time, wow, cool, all right, if
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  you guys want to turn it off, I don't say warm and fuzz if
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  there have been them a right, you know, we just recorded Dumb and
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  Dumber. So I'm really having a tough time swimzing gears stay, I switch.
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  Yeah, we're doing Jim Carrey June because he did three movies in ninety
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  four and then this one in two thousand and four. Nice they had,
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  Yeah, but this is the most serious. Different that is for sure.
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  Different experiences for sure. Yeah, I just didn't squeeze the number twenty three
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  in there. You're gonna keep it all l that's creepy. That was real
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  creepy. I don't know, I can't do it. Oh, let's go
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  to Rotten Tomatoes and hear what they have to say. Uh, critics have
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  it coming in at ninety two percent, guys, is fresh. That is
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  very fresh. Now. I will say that one is way higher than the
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  three previous movies you talked about. This is critics favorite for sure, big
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  time. Although was it Roger Ebert really liked the p D Bird. He
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  loved the pet bit big time. Pretty to be flying the room with him
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  watching that, it was so, I'll have to send you the quote,
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  but it was. He was like, I didn't love the rest of the
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  movie, but that scene made me laugh out loud. And he was like,
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  if I would have laughed that hard the whole movie, I would have
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  had to go to the hospital or something. Yeah, which is so great.
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  I love that audience members have this at just a couple of ticks above
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  that at ninety four percent, so they agree to for rare, Critics and
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  audience members are very close. I feel like that does always happened, you
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  know, or at least not on this podcast. Yeah, yeah, for
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  sure, for sure. But I think we should go in to what we
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  think and it's time for our hot takes. Hot take, that's a hot
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  take. That's a hot take. Brain damage. Yeah, I couldn't think
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  of one for this movie. Yeah, me, neither sad hot because it's
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  sad. I don't know. I will go first on this. I this
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  movie is heart wrenching. I struggle to say I love it, but I
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  do think I love it. It's just in a special way, but I
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  think it is It's a beautiful story. Like first of all, the narrative
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  style in which they chose to tell it with that sort of like we start
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  at the end to get to the beginning, you know, like that whole
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  thing, right is really great and I like that mechanical a lot. It's
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  really fun. It makes that seem like you like kind of got told a
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  secret at the beginning of it, and then you like kind of realize how
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  how cool it was that you got to start there at the very beginning.
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  But it is just I mean to go from comedies that we just covered into
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  this. For Jim Carrey and his movie career is pretty wild because this is
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  straight up a beautiful, already lovely film. There's some super cool like visual
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  effects stuff that they do in it, which I think you mentioned already,
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  Rob and your synopsis, which is super fun, and we'll talk more about
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  that for sure. It's like kind of like screws with your mind at various
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  points and like lets you see how fragile our memories are and you know,
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  interactions with people are and stuff like that, which I like a lot.
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  Yeah, And it's just got a super interesting it's an interesting mechanic to get
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  there, and it's a super interesting concept of like if you could erase someone,
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  would you do it? And I feel like they don't tell you,
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  They kind of let you decide because I still don't know is it a good
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  idea to do it or not. I sort of leaned towards no, it's
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  not like that's still a part of us growing and getting better, even with
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  the paining. But I really liked this movie a lot. I think it's
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  really masterfully done, even if it's sad and gets me in the fields.
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  And I don't really have a hot take. I guess I don't know that
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  was a hot take. Buddy. Yeah, that was hot smoking. I
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  adored this movie when it came out and watched it several times. This is
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  number ninety four on the IMDb Top two fifty list. It won an OSCAR
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  for Best Original Screenplay and Kate Winslet was nominated for Best Lead Actress. Nice.
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  It was directed by Michelle Gondry, who previous to this pretty much just
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  made crazy music videos for various artists like b York or Radiohead or the Chemical
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  Brothers, and they were pretty out there. Apparently he did do a movie
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  as well, and it was called Human Nature, which was also written by
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  Charlie Coffin. I'd never heard of it. I looked it up and it
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  has like Tim Robbins and Patricia Arquett and Reyese Eipen. Sounds like, I
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  don't know, maybe that's one worth checking out. Charlie Kaufman he wrote this,
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  and before this he wrote Being John Malkovich and Adaptation, and so his
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  stuff is pretty pretty out there as well. Yeah, but the acting performances
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  in this are awesome. It was so fun to see Jim Carrey and Kate
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  Winslett both played characters that weren't really in their wheelhouse previous to this, Carrie
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  being more dramatic and Winslet being more comedic. The practical effects Michelle Gondry did
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  in this were awesome. I remember back in the day watching the behind the
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  scenes and seeing that scene where Jim Carrey is talking to Tom Wilkinson, Yeah,
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  in his memory, remembering the first visit with him, and so it's
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  like him watching himself talk to Tom Wilkinson. So, and the camera pans
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  over, and when the camera pans, he's actually undressing so that he can
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  sit down and be talking to him, and then the camera pans slowly back
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  and he has to put all this stuff back on it all it was all
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  one shot, you know, and it just makes you appreciate that scene so
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  much more and totally like you didn't need to do that, But I think
• 24:29
  it made everybody else feel so much more invested in the movie and the movie
• 24:33
  making process. Yeah, my hot take, this is a great movie about
• 24:40
  the inner workings of a relationship. And this came out after I had a
• 24:44
  breakup in college and it wrecked me. Yeah, and after watching this movie,
• 24:52
  I'm pretty sure it directly it's directly responsible for making me stay in relationships
• 24:56
  much longer than I should have. That's interesting. Yeah, I get it.
• 25:03
  I mean that totally makes sense, right, Like for sure, maybe
• 25:06
  we can work it out, like he totally forgot all the things, and
• 25:11
  then he still wanted to go back and maybe maybe I should do that figured
• 25:15
  things out. Brutal, brutal a lot. Man, it's a hot take.
• 25:21
  Yeah, hot take, hot take, Neil, what you got,
• 25:22
  buddy, Yeah, I mean it's you know, given the ninety two percent
• 25:26
  Rotten Tomatoes, I don't know how hot this take is, but I this
• 25:30
  is like, at worst my top three favorite movie. Like I absolutely want
• 25:33
  this movie. I didn't know that's a super hot take. It is one
• 25:37
  of my absolute all time favorites. I actually took in college, like a
• 25:41
  film literature class, and this is one of the movies that we studied in
• 25:42
  that class, And that was the first time I had that like changed the
• 25:47
  way I watched movies entirely. That class is very interesting to like really dig
• 25:49
  into all the detail that goes into setting up a shot and like the backgrounds
• 25:55
  of things, the way that you know, certain angles are used or certain
• 25:59
  characters are framed, use of color, like all of these things. That
• 26:02
  was the first time I was exposed to any of that, and this movie
• 26:03
  is such a good example of all of those things. Yeah, so you
• 26:07
  have this like extremely original like the screenplay obviously one an oscar, but it's
• 26:14
  such an original idea to go into, like the concept of fate versus you
• 26:18
  know, choice, and like even if you erase someone from your memory,
• 26:23
  like we see two examples of this in the film, where that didn't change
• 26:26
  the outcome, they still fell back in love with that person, right,
• 26:30
  So, like it's this concept of like can you even escape that sort of
• 26:36
  you know, element of fate or predestination with somebody if the chemistry is there,
• 26:40
  like can you even avoid it kind of thing? So that was really
• 26:42
  cool concept. I loved the visuals. The practical effects through so many of
• 26:47
  the dream sequences were incredible. It made those scenes feel so like uncomfortable and
• 26:52
  visceral too. Like this, the shots were really close up. The lighting
• 26:56
  was weird and awkward, you know, like spot lighting from super close,
• 27:00
  having like dark shadows around him. It felt very much like you were in
• 27:03
  a dream, like you can't really remember a lot of the details. It's
• 27:06
  sort of just like four ground spotlighted things, which I thought was like really
• 27:10
  really well done. There's I mean, I know we're going to get into
• 27:12
  scenes and all that stuff later, but this was like kind of end to
• 27:15
  end. It was so visually brilliant, Like there's not there's not like one
• 27:18
  big climactic moment in this. It's so throughout. It's done so well,
• 27:23
  and such different textures and qualities to it too, Like the modern memories,
• 27:30
  the more recent memories. You know, there's like anger represented in sort of
• 27:34
  the end part of the relationship scenes, and then you have like the flashback
• 27:38
  scenes when he's a kid, where it's like shot through a vintage camera and
• 27:41
  it's kind of flickering and it's like you're watching an old vhdste you know.
• 27:45
  So like the texture contrast between those things to illustrate and really make you like
• 27:48
  feel those moments is so well done. So all the acting performances are are
• 27:53
  pretty strong. Of course, Jim Carrey and Kate wins Let both absolutely kill
• 27:56
  it in their respective roles, and it was really, as you mention,
• 28:00
  Rob, is really cool to see them in like kind of different flavors than
• 28:03
  what they typically do. Kate Winsley being like this manic, impulsive character is
• 28:07
  like not something that you normally would see from her, So I thought she's
• 28:11
  fantastic in it. Jim Carrey's great too, But the contrast of them,
• 28:15
  you know, it's just a great conceptually. I love this movie. I
• 28:18
  think it really digs into anybody who's like been in a relationship that didn't work
• 28:22
  out Like this obviously hits very hard because you can't help but replay all the
• 28:26
  moments like good and bad, yeah, and seeing them in sort of this
• 28:30
  reverse order of like the worst parts first and then working your way back to
• 28:36
  the beginning when it was sunshine and roses and you're like really falling for that
• 28:38
  person in the infatuation so strong is such a like heart wrenchingly beautiful but painful
• 28:45
  way to like look at a relationship. Right, It's like typically you just
• 28:48
  sort of remember the end parts. You're like, all right, these are
• 28:51
  the things that didn't work there as the reasons we broke up. And seeing
• 28:53
  in that order and seeing how these characters decide to, like I guess,
• 28:57
  sort of give it another shot even though they expect it to fail again.
• 29:00
  Like that's a that's a really important, interesting concept. The whole thing is
• 29:06
  just so original. I can't think of any other story that really follows this
• 29:08
  kind of pattern. Yeah, much less told visually in this way. So
• 29:12
  it's it's it is one of my all time favorites. I absolutely love this
• 29:15
  movie. I was unsurprised by how much I still love this movie rewatching it,
• 29:19
  I cried a bunch as is part for the game. So you know,
• 29:22
  I heard that not a very hot take, but the only do that's
• 29:26
  a really really hot take, and I'm so glad we have you on here
• 29:30
  for this episode. Uh. The only thing that did not age well,
• 29:33
  uh, well, there was a few things, but the biggest thing was
• 29:37
  she throws out the gay slur at him. I was not expecting that.
• 29:44
  Yeah, that really takes It Also like kind of made sense, right,
• 29:47
  because she's so mad in that point that like, no, it makes like
• 29:52
  yeah, the amount of like vitriol that they're just hurling at each other at
• 29:56
  the end of that scene is so and it's like again, it's like it's
• 30:00
  painfully resonating that like relationships can get to that point, even with somebody that
• 30:04
  you're like so crazy about, it can get to that point where like you're
• 30:07
  saying things that you really don't mean, but they're just you're seeing the most
• 30:11
  hurtful things you can possibly come up with, and like they feel out of
• 30:15
  character for both of them, but it's it's because you know, this relationship
• 30:18
  had to hit a breaking point right at some point, and we know that
• 30:22
  that happened because we saw the aftermath, So like seeing that scene, that
• 30:26
  is the breaking point. You know that last night, you know that they
• 30:29
  were together whatever. Right, it's brutal. I mean it's hard to watch,
• 30:33
  but it's like, yeah, it's I just I can remember being in
• 30:37
  the spot where I'm like trying to tell myself like just because it's over doesn't
• 30:41
  mean it was like not worthwhile and beautiful in its own way, and then
• 30:45
  also being like but also you know, like yeah, you know what I
• 30:48
  mean, where you're just like, ah, my brain is completely jumbled right
• 30:52
  now. And it's such a They do such a good job of showing that
• 30:56
  of like that vulnerability and then you know whatever like other stuff you're bringing into
• 31:03
  the relationship beforehand, you know, with them being you know, him as
• 31:07
  a kid and all that, and then jumble that up with poor timing or
• 31:11
  whatever, and you know, just all the things I thought it was so
• 31:15
  great for sure, Yeah, I thought. There's there's also like you know
• 31:18
  when they when they get the tapes and they're like listening to the tapes at
• 31:22
  the end, like yeah, it is also like it's so heavy and like
• 31:26
  if you can attempt to put yourself in the shoes of a person who like
• 31:30
  you just met to you, you just met this person, but then you're
• 31:33
  getting to butterflies together, and then you're hearing a tape of that person talking
• 31:38
  about you, like intimately knowing who you are, like describing accurately your worst
• 31:44
  flaws right like, and then there's that shot of Jim Carrey's hand just shaking
• 31:48
  on the steering wheel after he kicks out of the car, and I was
• 31:49
  like, I can't even fathom like what that would how destabilizing it would be
• 31:53
  to like be in that moment and having just experienced the last twelve hours like
• 31:59
  into that, you know what I mean. So that felt like that's what
• 32:02
  therapists wants you to get to when they're like some of those sessions where they're
• 32:07
  trying to be like okay, but be a fly on the wall, what
• 32:09
  would you actually think you know in that moment or whatever, Like it's crazy.
• 32:15
  Also, Frodo is such a creep in this. He's such how much
• 32:20
  aep in this? He's been corrupted by the ring for sure. I also
• 32:23
  really loved how because he never saw his face then you never really see his
• 32:30
  face like in the memories and stuff, even when he tries to turn him
• 32:32
  around. Yeah, it's yes, Harry, I remember some of the like
• 32:38
  cool. Some of the distorted face effects are like just terrifying the first time
• 32:43
  I watched this, Like there's second film adjacent it kind of is. There's
• 32:47
  some like thrillery moments where, especially like once they start to sort of like
• 32:52
  chase through the memories, it definitely gets a little more like that. There's
• 32:55
  I think it's a second time that he's like remembering the office. Yes,
• 33:00
  and they're like they're like that you already bet you he's back in a memory
• 33:02
  we've already deleted or whatever. And there's that scene where he like turns and
• 33:06
  there's a woman like standing in the doorway and her face is all melted.
• 33:08
  It's such like a jump scare that you don't really expect, Yeah, from
• 33:13
  like not even a major character. It's just like a random you know,
• 33:15
  but yeah, it is very well done. Again, Visual effects man they're
• 33:19
  so good in this movie. They were so cool. Yeah, really cool.
• 33:22
  I agreed, love it. Oh well, hot take buddy. Let's
• 33:25
  let's go and talk about some of these acting performances, and let's pick the
• 33:30
  dude. The dude. I'm the dude, So that's what you call me,
• 33:35
  you know that? Or his dudeenus or duder or you know el dude
• 33:42
  reno. If you're not into the whole brevity thing, who's your dude?
• 33:45
  Neil So I originally wrote down Kate Winslet. I eventually changed it for Jim
• 33:49
  Carrey. I would be perfectly fine with either of those options. They both
• 33:53
  terrific in this movie, and they share screen time almost equally, so it's
• 33:57
  kind of hard to pick which one is more of the lead. I think
• 34:00
  Kate Willson maybe is more important to the story. I mean, she's even
• 34:02
  though it centers around Joel, she is all of the action happening around him.
• 34:07
  Yeah, so I kind of felt like she's maybe the more relevant character
• 34:12
  in this and you get to see her go from like super sweet to like
• 34:15
  extremely mean, you know, a wide range for her character. But yeah,
• 34:21
  both of them are terrific in this Yeah, she was so great It
• 34:23
  was just her character was fun and like spontaneous and exciting. And I can
• 34:28
  get how a kind of repressed guy would feel like if he could be with
• 34:32
  someone like her, it could be more exciting, it could give it out
• 34:36
  some more meaning maybe. And I thought she was just wonderful in that role.
• 34:40
  I would pick her. Is that's who you had too? Yeah,
• 34:45
  that's I actually picked her as well for all the same reasons. It felt
• 34:49
  like she she was like sort of a metaphor for life for Joel, and
• 34:53
  as life she is growing and changing and her hair color is changing, and
• 34:59
  yeah, she's like, you know, she's up and down right all these
• 35:02
  things, right, She's mercurial, but also she is life moving and changing,
• 35:07
  and Joel just kind of is staying the same, except for those moments
• 35:10
  where he kind of surrenders to it and lets himself go somewhere in the moment,
• 35:15
  which I think is beautiful in its own right. But I just thought
• 35:17
  she was really dynamic and and like you guys both have said, it's fun
• 35:22
  to see her play a role where she gets to, you know, be
• 35:27
  kind of the like mercurial one, Like she gets to be kind of kind
• 35:31
  of crazy for lack of a better word, right, But she's out there,
• 35:35
  she's living, she's a little bit more of you know, like passion
• 35:38
  and you know, jumping from thing to thing or whatever. So I just
• 35:43
  thought she was awesome. But I'm with you, everybody's they're both great.
• 35:47
  Yeah, Jim Carrey was super good too. He just was kind of a
• 35:51
  boring guy and he got to show off a little bit more when like he's
• 35:57
  a kid in his memories. You know, for sure, is a little
• 36:00
  bit more Jim Carrey in that on Our Table was definitely like the most felt
• 36:06
  the most Jim Carrey adjacents, you know, for sure, for sure.
• 36:09
  But for the most part he was just kind of a kind of a gloomy
• 36:13
  guess. Yeah. Yeah, Like he's got that one line where they're on
• 36:16
  the ice that's beautiful, you know, and his reactions to things are all
• 36:21
  really great. But she seems like she's more of the the like change agent
• 36:27
  or something. I don't know. She seems more active than him, the
• 36:30
  agent orange. Yeah, hey, and blue and red and green and yeah,
• 36:36
  all the things. But yeah, there's also there's a nice detail in
• 36:40
  I think it's I forget if it's throughout the entire film, or if it's
• 36:44
  just towards the beginning. But the use of music when they're interacting with each
• 36:47
  other versus when they're not is really like great, it's a it's a great
• 36:52
  subtle layer to this where it's like, you know, there's this chemistry and
• 36:54
  enchantment that they're feeling around each other that doesn't really exist not around each each
• 37:00
  other, and so like the music just kind of plays only when they're talking
• 37:02
  to each other and then when they're not, like it's it's not don't Yeah,
• 37:07
  so cool. Yeah, it's really neat. It made it more awkward
• 37:09
  when they would stop exactly. Yeah. Yeah, it's like just keep talking
• 37:15
  that way. Yeah, I love that. Should we talk about some of
• 37:20
  the supporting folks? Should we go to the Tucci? This one? Yeah?
• 37:27
  This one? So I ended up you know, I ended up picking
• 37:30
  ultimately Jim Carrey for my dude, and I put Kate Winslet is my twoch.
• 37:34
  But it's one of those like I actually liked the supporting cast a lot.
• 37:38
  There was kind of they they all felt like they were there in equal
• 37:42
  measure. Ye, and like the four strongest supporting you know kind of characters
• 37:45
  were all like this band that each played like a little bit of a different
• 37:50
  flavor but really well together, like Mark Ruffal and Kristen Dunce their whole dynamic,
• 37:55
  and then like how that interacted with Howard and that whole side of the
• 37:59
  story was really interesting. So I had a hard time picking on this one.
• 38:02
  I honestly I went with Kate Winsley with as a total cop out,
• 38:06
  but I kind of like I couldn't pick just one because it felt more like
• 38:09
  they were a cast of characters together. So yeah, I get that that's
• 38:13
  a very sitting on the fence answer, but that's kind of where I landed
• 38:15
  on it. Sure, I also had a hard time picking one, But
• 38:21
  I think I think this is one of the first things I saw Mark Ruffalo
• 38:24
  in that I really liked him in Sure, and I've always thought he's had
• 38:30
  such great comedic timing for being like a dramatic actor. I thought he was
• 38:35
  really fun in this. I always felt bad that he liked Mary so much
• 38:40
  and he could see how obsessed she was with Howard, and you kind of
• 38:45
  just like, oh, but he he wants to be with her, Why
• 38:49
  can't you be with her? For him himself? At the end and goes
• 38:53
  outside it's kind of like thrown in the towel, like he can't really win
• 38:59
  too. Yeah, I would have picked him, but what did you have,
• 39:01
  Bukes I picked. I just thought he was really great. I'm kind
• 39:07
  of with you. I mean, he's such a creep, such a good
• 39:12
  job he does such a good job of being that the fact that he kept
• 39:16
  all of the things that he's a monster, it's straight sociopathic man. And
• 39:21
  I like, I always forget that he also stole a pair of her panties
• 39:23
  when they were doing her memory. Well, oh god, that's gross.
• 39:29
  He reads exactly what he had said to her on the ice and then recites
• 39:34
  it to her, Like what a creep? Yeah, great, acting brutal.
• 39:39
  I'm kind of I think it's really interesting though, Like they almost that,
• 39:51
  like those three people almost feel like the worst case of who we are
• 39:54
  in relationships. Like he's like kind of stockery, you know, like he's
• 40:00
  getting over something in the past that she's not. She's not able to deal
• 40:02
  with it, but you know, like she hasn't dealt with it right,
• 40:07
  and then Ruffalo is just like kind of oblivious and doesn't understand that the timing
• 40:12
  doesn't work out. You know, I just think that's super interesting. And
• 40:15
  Tom Wilkinson is a pretty big dirt bag. Yeah for sure. Yeah,
• 40:21
  yeah, okay sucks. And that was also like the first time I watched
• 40:24
  this, that was such a good twist that that was good. When his
• 40:29
  wife says you can have him, you did and it drives off and I
• 40:32
  was like, oh my goodness, I know, I remember being floored by
• 40:36
  that as well. Sam. Yeah, yeah, I actually kind of forgot
• 40:38
  about it too. The rewatch. I was like, oh, yeah,
• 40:42
  that's right, Oh my god, yeah, level it is. It is
• 40:46
  pretty dirt bag, especially the fact that she still works there. Right,
• 40:51
  This whole thing happened weird and like you wiped her memory of your infidelity slash
• 40:55
  romantic relationship that you had with her and then she was still your secretary,
• 41:00
  right, like what are we doing? Wild? He didn't wipe his own
• 41:04
  memory either, kept though, Yeah, yeah, I still knew about it.
• 41:07
  Yeah, that's not cool for sure. Crazy. But I love Tom
• 41:14
  Wilkinson though, and I thought he was great in this. He actually I
• 41:16
  think I just saw you passed away was awesome. I always enjoyed him.
• 41:22
  She was great in this. She gets to actually do some stuff, which
• 41:28
  was fun. Too. I sort of early on was like, oh she
• 41:30
  doesn't she going to be underutilized, And I was like, oh no,
• 41:35
  she gets everything unravels, which I really liked. Yeah, I've always loved
• 41:40
  her. She's great. I love when she gets stoned and she's like all
• 41:45
  freaking out that she's going to hear the Howard's gonna come. Really funny,
• 41:52
  what are we going to do? I don't know what are we gonna do?
• 41:55
  I just said, I don't know. I don't know. H She's
• 42:01
  great. There's not a ton of other like big parts though. Really,
• 42:07
  dude, I did not I remember that David Cross was uh was in it
• 42:13
  at all. I did not know the two people who were his friends,
• 42:17
  Yeah, going into this and so that was that was a trip. Yeah,
• 42:22
  there was. It's kind of I'm sure this is fully unintentional, but
• 42:24
  it's a funny little parallel that he's building like the birdhouse, and every time
• 42:30
  I see that scene, like he's just like hammering the birdhouse in the back
• 42:32
  of their conversation happening in the kitchen. Yeah, And it just makes me
• 42:36
  think of Buster from uh A relative development building the bike outside, yes,
• 42:43
  and Michael just being like Buster, you can't do that on the balcony body,
• 42:47
  so I know that they don't play the same character, but the little
• 42:52
  arrested development tie in of like just doing this kind of inappropriately timed childish behavior
• 42:57
  like in the background. It's really funny. Also, he's got like a
• 43:00
  full wood shop in their kitchen. I don't even know, man, he's
• 43:04
  like in crafts. The whole background conversation of how he crashed the plane at
• 43:07
  the very end is also like hilarious to me. Yes, yes, I
• 43:13
  didn't crash the plane. The plane crashed. The plane itself chose to crash.
• 43:20
  It's great. And I've seen that Jane Adams, who plays his wife
• 43:24
  in that, I've seen her pop up in a lot of different things,
• 43:28
  and this was probably one of the first things I ever saw. And for
• 43:30
  sure, yeah, she's doing a ton of work. I feel like,
• 43:35
  nothing like huge, but yeah, always around cool. But those were the
• 43:40
  main characters, for sure. Agreed, Yeah, it was. It's all
• 43:45
  in relatively small cast. Actually, I mean, the vastatory of it is
• 43:49
  just the main two. But yeah, you know, you basically get like
• 43:52
  six people's names and that's the whole thing, right, Yeah, Well,
• 43:58
  why don't we why don't we go and pick some of these scenes and let's
• 44:01
  pick our favorite one. Let's pick the dinguss So is quite simple, really,
• 44:07
  dingus dingus. I could talk about my dingas all night long. I'm
• 44:10
  gonna kiss you das. You guys want to go first. I have no
• 44:14
  hot takes on this one. It was tough. This was tough. Yeah,
• 44:21
  well let's let's start with you, Neil. Let's unless you would like
• 44:22
  us to go first. I so I left this blank because there was just
• 44:27
  like, not really a this doesn't have like a climax scene to me.
• 44:31
  I mean, there's a couple that stick in my mind. There's a couple
• 44:35
  of scenes that I really love, but I wouldn't say that they're like famously
• 44:37
  the best scene, you know, obviously the the cover art of the movie
• 44:43
  is them on the frozen Charles River, which is a pretty good shot.
• 44:45
  I think there's a few others that kind of fit that well. I really
• 44:50
  love the scene where when it's the as little kids and it's Joel hammering the
• 44:53
  bird and then them walking away and they'll like cut back and forth between both
• 44:59
  of them being a little it's like walking away. Yeah, I love that
• 45:01
  scene. It's super hard, but I also just like love the way it's
• 45:04
  shot. It's like you have this, you know, we all have like
• 45:07
  these like moments from our childhood that just like are really unfun memories for us.
• 45:14
  And like the idea of being able to have somebody who is like a
• 45:17
  person you care about as an adult be able to relive that with you and
• 45:22
  like be support for you through a moment where you didn't have support the first
• 45:24
  time around is like really touching and like such a cool idea of how to
• 45:29
  shoot that scene. So I love that scene a lot. And of course
• 45:32
  that has the whole like old VHS tape quality to it, and the whole
• 45:37
  the way this shot as well, So it's very like a sad and bittersweet,
• 45:40
  but it's like such a well shot scene. This whole movie is that,
• 45:44
  I mean, honestly sure, if I had to pick one, I
• 45:51
  think when they break into the house on the beach, yes, the memory
• 45:57
  is leaving, so the house starts falling apart. We see like them walking
• 46:01
  in sand now and you can actually see the house falling apart around them,
• 46:07
  and they explained like what they were both feeling at that moment, and they
• 46:12
  both felt so like vulnerable in that moment, and then she ends with him
• 46:17
  like, well, why don't we why don't we change this ending a little
• 46:22
  bit, you know, since we weren't able to do that, And uh,
• 46:27
  yeah, it's just it was beautiful. I thought that it was the
• 46:30
  beautiful scene that like imagery of the world crumbling around them while they're going through
• 46:35
  this is so great. And that's felt like inception seeing that from Good Call.
• 46:45
  Yeah, that's a good one too. Yeah, there's a lot there's
• 46:46
  there's not like a you know, so many of the movies that we do,
• 46:50
  like there's like a punchy, like big climax scene, and I don't
• 46:52
  necessarily feel that this movie has that. But there's so many scenes that are
• 46:55
  really well done, and especially like within the memories, I mean, the
• 47:00
  books disappearing as they're walking through the bookstore is a really good one. Just
• 47:04
  like how the memories like get deleted around him is so cool. So there's
• 47:08
  the practical effects of all of that has done so well. So I love
• 47:12
  the visuals of all of that stuff. But yeah, I think that's ending
• 47:15
  scene. I can get down with that. That's a pretty powerful one where
• 47:16
  they're kind of like finally reconciling their relationship and like trying to maybe do something
• 47:22
  different. There's an interesting thing with that scene too, because you know,
• 47:25
  she says, like meet me in Montak and they have this whole thing.
• 47:29
  That's the quote of the movie, proud that. Yeah. But the interesting
• 47:31
  thing about that is, you know, ultimately that's not her saying that.
• 47:35
  That's his projection of her in his own memory that's saying that. And he
• 47:38
  has that conversation with with Howard earlier in the film where he's like asking him
• 47:44
  to do something and he's like, well, I'm just part of your memory,
• 47:45
  Like this is you, I'm you. Yeah, So, like,
• 47:49
  you know, keeping that concept in mind in the last scene, it's very
• 47:52
  interesting that, like it's a moment where he finally breaks out of like his
• 47:57
  monotony and gets his subconscious to do something spontaneous by doing what he thinks Clumb
• 48:01
  would do in that situation, which is to plant this idea of spontaneity to
• 48:07
  like leave and run away and go to Montak the next day. And then
• 48:10
  you know, she evidently did the same thing in her memory wipe where she
• 48:14
  planted this idea of spontaneiti. So they like end up running into each other.
• 48:17
  But it's a very interesting concept that, like it's not that she was
• 48:21
  actually planting that for him, because she wasn't in his memory. It was
• 48:23
  his memory of her, right, So I love that talk about inception e
• 48:30
  right, yeah, for real, it's the honest exception where it's like is
• 48:32
  that his it doesn't matter, He's where he wanted to be either way,
• 48:37
  you know. Like well, even the I mean the closing you know,
• 48:39
  closing scene with the song and right before the credits roll, like you see
• 48:43
  them kind of like frolicking in the sand, and then it it like it's
• 48:45
  like the tape skips and you just see that clip over and over yeap,
• 48:49
  which is kind of a cool also like visual indication of like can you escape
• 48:52
  your fate? Or are you going to end up with this person over and
• 48:55
  over no matter how many times you try to do something else, you know
• 48:58
  what I mean? Right, I don't know. I love it. That's
• 49:02
  great. I had the house scene written down for sure, which I really
• 49:07
  liked. I also love the we kind of mentioned it, but the when
• 49:13
  Kirsten Dunstan what's the doctor's name again, Tom Wilkinson, when they realized that
• 49:20
  or when I guess she realizes because he knows the whole time, which again
• 49:22
  is a strange power imbalance for an employee boss relationship. But when she realizes,
• 49:30
  right that they have that history and his wife comes and you know all
• 49:34
  that, And I loved the line where the wife was like take pity on
• 49:37
  the girl, like you can't like, don't do that, you know to
• 49:42
  him and stuff. I love that. So that whole scene I just thought
• 49:45
  was really really great. Yeah. Sure, intent you didn't really see it
• 49:50
  coming either, Yeah, yeah, for sure, which that was a solid
• 49:53
  twist. It was well played, right and and you kind of see like,
• 49:57
  oh, maybe this procedure is not like super ethical, you know or
• 50:01
  whatever, right, like, this is dangerous in a lot of ways.
• 50:06
  You know. By the way, the name of the company, Lacuna,
• 50:09
  means like a gap in something, which I thought is like it's like a
• 50:13
  gap or a void in something, So it's like very apt. But that's
• 50:16
  you know, the name of the company that's doing this. Yeah, that
• 50:20
  was well done, which I like too because it's like you can use that
• 50:23
  for relationships, right, Like that's why you keep going back to someone because
• 50:28
  there is that gap in you that they have to fill. Even if it's
• 50:31
  like not a happy ending, it's still you know, part of your progression
• 50:36
  as a person, you know, Yeah, totally. One of the more
• 50:37
  literal translations is literally like a gap in a book, like page is missing
• 50:42
  from a book, which is of course what happens with this diary. So
• 50:45
  yeah, so very fun little choice there. And then I loved the the
• 50:52
  where they meet again on the beach. Stuff is just so beautiful because we
• 50:58
  know at that point all the stuff that has happened, or we have an
• 51:00
  idea, and it's just like that they're meeting again. It's just great totally,
• 51:07
  but again, hard to pick a specific scene it is. I also
• 51:10
  love just the very last scene where it all leads up to that they're listening
• 51:15
  to Joel's thoughts about Clementine from the tape and she's like, I gotta leave.
• 51:22
  But then they're in the hallway and they explain to each other like this
• 51:28
  is what I do in relationships, and this is what I do in relationships,
• 51:31
  is like, Okay, let's do this. Let's still try. If
• 51:37
  it doesn't last forever, it's worth doing anyway. Yeah, and then that
• 51:43
  awesome Beck song starts up and then we see them and on the beach in
• 51:46
  montak again, And yeah, I thought it was a really beautiful way to
• 51:51
  end the film agreeably. I also really liked that this is a terrible transition
• 51:55
  from how Heart the scene where he's chasing Clementine and she's like stalking out down
• 52:04
  the street away from him, and like the cars crashing and stuff, and
• 52:07
  it's that shot where he walks down the street and ends up at the end
• 52:10
  of the street and everything's reversed and the cars on both ends. Yeah,
• 52:14
  that whole shot is all one continuous and it looks so cool, such a
• 52:19
  cool effect. And for a movie that used a ton of practical effects,
• 52:22
  they're like, cgi effects are really cool. Yeah, you're well done.
• 52:27
  They didn't feel like weird or dated or like they looked hokey, Like it
• 52:30
  was kind of yeah, pretty effective. Like the car disappears after they get
• 52:35
  out of it, you know, in that one scene, and like you
• 52:37
  said, the books and stuff and all that. I just think that's super
• 52:40
  neat. Yeah, for sure, love that good show. So yeah,
• 52:45
  I don't know if just picking one, do we pick one? We all
• 52:50
  liked the house. We could do the house disappearing. I'm down at the
• 52:52
  house because it's pretty to the meet me in Montak which yeah right, yeah
• 52:59
  for sure, which is one of the best quotes. Is that the title
• 53:00
  of the episode. I feel like it is. I think, so,
• 53:04
  yeah, that feels right, love that, that feels right. I mean,
• 53:07
  I think we should probably go to the next section talk about those other
• 53:09
  quotes. Love it. Lets you show me the money, show me the
• 53:14
  money, show me. It was a beautiful segue. Thank you, he's
• 53:22
  good. He's good. It's good about that one. So yeah, burned
• 53:28
  the biggest one with we knew that one was coming. That was that's a
• 53:34
  surprise to know one. I think, yeah, for sure. What do
• 53:37
  you got for a quote there, Neil, I've got a few one here,
• 53:39
  I I thought, the okay, so she's got very early on,
• 53:45
  like first basically first thing in the movie, she has the I apply my
• 53:47
  personality in a paste. I was like that one, Yeah, that's great.
• 53:52
  And then she like has that like you know, moment of honesty where
• 53:57
  she's like talking about herself, and then she finishes it off with I'm a
• 54:00
  vindictive little bit truth be told. It was like a hilarious transition, all
• 54:06
  right, which also ends up being very true. As we find out her
• 54:13
  whole rant about the use of the word nice, which of course is a
• 54:15
  bit of a recurring theme throughout the movie, and then like you see Joel
• 54:19
  finally break away from that word at the very end after they meet the second
• 54:22
  time, which is kind of cool. There's the that is the oldest trick
• 54:28
  in the Stalker book. Really there's a Stalker book. Joel talking to Howard
• 54:37
  the doctor, is there any risk of brain damage? Well, technically speaking,
• 54:42
  mister Bears, the procedure is brain damage. Is brain damage? Yeah?
• 54:45
  I like that, but nothing you miss I also like the when Joel's
• 54:50
  kind of it sounds like he's sort of like reading from his diary or writing
• 54:54
  in his diary, recounting the scene in the restaurant, and he's like,
• 54:59
  are we that couple? Are we the dining deaths? Which I was like,
• 55:01
  that line stuck with me for a long time, and like in other
• 55:07
  relationships I was in, I was like, God, are we are We're
• 55:10
  not really talking? Are we like them in this scene? That one stuck
• 55:15
  with me for a long time, which is funny because I can go either
• 55:17
  way, right, It could either be like we're comfortable, just yeah,
• 55:22
  we don't need to fill the space right right, But it's riding the line
• 55:27
  between comfort and complacency, you know, Yeah, Like has a routine become
• 55:30
  all there is? Or is there? You know? Yeah, And then
• 55:36
  I had that I wrote down that trick, Babby Boy. It's so weird
• 55:44
  when you that scene again where it's Tom Wilkinson and it's the second time he's
• 55:49
  doing it. It's the pat trick. Baby. Yeah, quite a lot,
• 55:54
  so yeah, I had to make the list. Also, there's a
• 55:58
  line when Clem is kind of like having her sort of breakdown while Patrick is
• 56:05
  like reusing all of Joel's you know stuff materials and it makes me laugh every
• 56:09
  single time just because of the delivery of it. But he's like, can
• 56:13
  we talk about it? No? Yeah, she's like going into an apartment.
• 56:19
  Yeah, she knows he's a creed. We certainly cannot, certainly cannot.
• 56:25
  So those are all the ones I wrote down. I was in my
• 56:28
  fields for the rest of the movie, so I didn't think to write anything
• 56:30
  else down. I heard nice. Yeah, I had a few as well.
• 56:36
  I really loved the this is it Joel It's going to be gone soon.
• 56:39
  It's like, I know, it's like, what do we do he
• 56:42
  said, enjoy it. Oh yeah, God, I love that one so
• 56:45
  much. I really loved that. I really liked that. I could die
• 56:52
  right now, clem. I'm just happy. I've never felt that before.
• 56:53
  I'm just exactly where I want to be. But then it just gets weird
• 56:58
  when Patrick does it word for word, it kind of takes it away.
• 57:02
  If I'm honest. Yeah, I like his just dry delivery and then her
• 57:07
  immediate I need to go home. Yeah, I kind of get out of
• 57:09
  here. Yeah. I love when they're talking in the hallway at the end.
• 57:16
  It's like, I can't see anything that I don't like about you.
• 57:17
  She's like, but you will, you will, and you know, you'll
• 57:21
  think of things and I'll get bored with you and feel trap because that's what
• 57:23
  happens with me. He just says okay. She says okay as well,
• 57:28
  and then that's all. I mean, that's all the end of the movie.
• 57:30
  It's so great. Yeah, soot okay. I love that. I
• 57:35
  liked uh Patrick, Mary hates me. I've never been popular with the ladies.
• 57:38
  Stan says, maybe if you stop stealing their panties. Yeah, that's
• 57:45
  great, lie, even if he's like that's dude, Like stop it one
• 57:52
  of the funniest things in the film that I kind of forgot, and it's
• 57:54
  a memory where they have like parked next to a drive in theater and they're
• 58:00
  kind of doing the mystery science theater theater some kind of things. It was
• 58:07
  great and like he's like, my god, there's people coming out of your
• 58:09
  butt because they just come out of nowhere. They are. Yeah, I
• 58:15
  love that, and the whole like my name is Wally AND's like, but
• 58:19
  how can I love a man named Wally? I thought that whole bit was
• 58:22
  pretty great and one that just kind of I don't know why it hit me,
• 58:30
  but it's just when Stan was talking to Kirsten Dunst, when Mark Ruffle
• 58:34
  was talking to Kirsten Dunst and talking about how he had seen with Tom Wilkinson,
• 58:39
  and he was like, you looked happy, happy with the secret And
• 58:45
  I don't know why that was just like that because she's interesting, did you
• 58:49
  know? And he's like, I mean not really, but yeah, yeah,
• 58:52
  yeah, that's great. I don't know. Well, what did you
• 58:55
  have? You Sorry? I took a bunch. Uh No, you're good.
• 58:58
  I still have several left. I felt specifically called out by this one
• 59:04
  why do I fall in love with every woman I see who shows me the
• 59:07
  least bit of attention? Yeah? I was like, hey, hold on
• 59:12
  down, which can I watch the movie please? Right away? That's right?
• 59:22
  I know, it's like right, yeah. I was seriously like,
• 59:25
  okay, we're really gonna buckle in for this one. Uh. Blessed or
• 59:30
  the forgetful as they get the better even of their blunders, I think is
• 59:32
  a great line. Yeah, well, yeah, I love that, and
• 59:38
  then followed by the how happy is the blameless vessels lot the world forgetting?
• 59:44
  Bite, the world forgot eternal sunshine of the spotless mind, each prayer accepted,
• 59:49
  each wish resigned, and I totally forgot that. That's where the title
• 59:53
  of this movie comes from. And I think it's so beautiful. A really
• 59:59
  good deal was with me. Now there you go. It good. I
• 1:00:05
  though that was funny that she. I mean, the reference to the Bartlet's
• 1:00:07
  quote book feels like a very mid two thousands kind of move. Yes,
• 1:00:12
  yeah, it feels like a like a liberal arts degree total. It's like
• 1:00:17
  someone saying like, oh, yeah, I need to check my becket,
• 1:00:21
  you know, like, yeah, there's a certain era that's gonna knows a
• 1:00:24
  lot of people that, oh dude, I spent so much time with the
• 1:00:30
  Beckett just I never got into the Beckett thing. Oh dude, collect like
• 1:00:37
  baseball cards or anything. I had some hockey cards, but that was about
• 1:00:39
  it. I was never a big baseball guy, so I feel like that
• 1:00:43
  a big reason. But yeah, people get into it. That's funny I
• 1:00:47
  did. That was a good big time. Uh. I think those were
• 1:00:52
  all the quotes that I had. There was one last one that I had,
• 1:00:57
  and the only reason I wrote it down was because it made me think
• 1:01:00
  of that bit in Star Wars, and it was Joel talking about sand is
• 1:01:05
  overrated. It's just tiny little rocks. It made me think, oh,
• 1:01:10
  that's really great. Yeah. I was trying to remember when he said that
• 1:01:17
  if that was a callback to something that she said later or like earlier in
• 1:01:22
  the relationship later movie. But no, that was just just threw that in
• 1:01:27
  there, just his own shower thoughts. Nothing else. Yeah. One one
• 1:01:31
  thing I loved. I think it was right before I think one of you
• 1:01:35
  guys said the quote, the enjoy it quote right before that, when she's
• 1:01:39
  like or when he's like. One of my favorite things as a kid was
• 1:01:43
  my Huckleberry hound all, I think your name is magical. Yeah, And
• 1:01:47
  like because there's that earlier interaction where he's like, Huckleberry Hound, No,
• 1:01:52
  I don't remember. I don't know what you're talking about, and it's like,
• 1:01:57
  damn, I don't know. I just really liked that's followed by the
• 1:02:00
  enjoy it and it's you know, I don't know. It just it brings
• 1:02:04
  me back to that sort of like, yeah, everything is temporary, like,
• 1:02:08
  so why not just enjoy what you can from it? You know,
• 1:02:12
  like I don't know. At some point, aren't we we're over baking the
• 1:02:15
  dish, right, like we're thinking too hard about it. Just be there.
• 1:02:19
  But I did love that. It was just another one of those things
• 1:02:22
  where you feel like smart because you realize, you know that he's been a
• 1:02:29
  race so of course he doesn't remember what Huckleberry Hound is because that makes me
• 1:02:34
  think of her. There are just a lot of things like that in this
• 1:02:37
  movie. Or like when when Mark Ruffalo is about to leave the apartment and
• 1:02:43
  he only less off I saw that side of the marker. You're like,
• 1:02:50
  oh yeah, because you see that early on. I was like, what
• 1:02:52
  is that too? And then you're like, oh, yeah, he didn't
• 1:02:58
  wash off the other side with Marker. Yes, so great. This movie
• 1:03:01
  is so great. Stuff like that, it's so fun. It's at least
• 1:03:07
  maybe even ninety four, maybe even maybe even nice. Well, let's move
• 1:03:15
  on to Biggs boohoo moments. Oh strong men also cry strong men, also
• 1:03:27
  a crying game. I uh had a tough time. I felt like there
• 1:03:32
  were earlier ones that I've missed. I did come up with six, so
• 1:03:42
  yeah, I'll go through them. The scene under the covers where she admits
• 1:03:45
  she had a doll with her name and telling her she can't be ugly,
• 1:03:49
  and he is consoling her and he says, please let me keep this memory.
• 1:03:53
  Yeah, She's like, am I pretty? Like, yeah, Jesus,
• 1:03:59
  pretty pretty. You're so pretty. But then when he's just like,
• 1:04:03
  please let me keep this movie, it was like, oh, yeah,
• 1:04:06
  it's I love that. When Howard tells Mary that they have history and she
• 1:04:13
  wanted the procedure done after his wife caught them, Yeah, that's brutal um.
• 1:04:20
  He says, remember me or no. She says, remember me,
• 1:04:25
  try your best and maybe we can. Oh and maybe we can, because
• 1:04:30
  he had said maybe we could just give it another go around. I think
• 1:04:33
  they're in the coffee shop and all like earth bookstore and the book start leaving.
• 1:04:38
  Yes, yeah that did get me that part for sure. The I'm
• 1:04:44
  gonna be gone soon? What do we do? Enjoy it so much that
• 1:04:48
  in retrospect that might be my favorite scene. Actually, yeah, like I
• 1:04:53
  love that line so much. It was beautiful that the end of the house
• 1:04:59
  scene that I that picked for the Dingus, the just that meet me in
• 1:05:01
  Montalk yep, meet me in Montalk for sure, and then the very end
• 1:05:04
  scene in the hallway. So those are the six. But yeah, I
• 1:05:12
  didn't know if there were some earlier ones because there were some sad moments,
• 1:05:15
  but nothing that actually chokes me up. It wasn't until towards the end of
• 1:05:20
  the movie for me, well that Neil, do you have any others?
• 1:05:26
  I think little kid hammering the bird? Yeah, okay, I was sad.
• 1:05:32
  I didn't like that. That was a pretty sad one. I'm so
• 1:05:38
  ashamed when he says when he says, do you really think you'd be a
• 1:05:44
  good mom? And she's like, how dare you say that to me?
• 1:05:45
  Is that s That was brutal. It didn't get me to cry, though,
• 1:05:48
  And I remember thinking specifically at the time like, oh, that's interesting,
• 1:05:53
  but it was Bruce's such a twist of the knife man, such a
• 1:05:57
  real conversation, you know, I mean, it's it's one of those things
• 1:06:01
  where like the words escape before you can think better of saying them out loud,
• 1:06:04
  and then you immediately realize how hurtful that is to say. Then if
• 1:06:09
  you do think that, you have to think of a better way to say
• 1:06:12
  it, right, for sure, just don't say it, because what does
• 1:06:15
  that help anyone? Right? But it takes a certain number of years of
• 1:06:18
  maturity and relationships to understand not to say that out loud. Yeah, yeah,
• 1:06:23
  I think so. Yeah, I'm trying to think of there's anything early
• 1:06:28
  in the movie that I mean, there's a scene where like he really early
• 1:06:30
  on where like he's crying in the car and driving, but at that point
• 1:06:33
  there's so little context for why he's crying that I exactly sarily think that one
• 1:06:39
  would hit play that didn't get And those are the actual opening credits, Yeah,
• 1:06:44
  already ten minutes into the movie. That's funny about first nonlinear is hard
• 1:06:48
  for me to follow sometimes, I feel, yeah, for sure, what
• 1:06:51
  about when he first gets the card from David Cross that says that Clementine I
• 1:06:58
  was wondering about that. Oh no that I didn't write that down, so
• 1:07:00
  that must not have got me. That is like a hope he was really
• 1:07:05
  upset about it. Yeah, his acting in that scene was really good.
• 1:07:10
  It's so good. So there are two more that I don't think we've said.
• 1:07:15
  The first one is and this was one where they just say some brutal
• 1:07:21
  things to each other, but uh, the I can't remember the scene is
• 1:07:27
  like this is the last time I saw you? And then yeah, I
• 1:07:31
  think it's the same scene right where she's like, I bet you assumed them
• 1:07:35
  one tonight and he's like, see, clem, I I assume you did
• 1:07:40
  them one tonight. Or she was like are you wondering I did? And
• 1:07:43
  he's like, I assume you did. Isn't that how you get people to
• 1:07:45
  like you? And I was like, damn, bro, like, yeah,
• 1:07:48
  that is brutal and that got me. That got me for sure.
• 1:07:54
  And then the other one, uh, just when when he's able to make
• 1:07:59
  it rain and memory as they're trying to get away, that was a beautiful,
• 1:08:02
  so beautiful that just that just got me. Like it wasn't even sad
• 1:08:06
  necessarily, it was just like, well, what a beautiful like we're in
• 1:08:11
  the music trying to Yeah, it's gorgeous. I really liked that. So
• 1:08:15
  that guy, I feel that. I definitely feel that. Yeah, so
• 1:08:18
  what is uh? That was eight? So eight? Yeah? Eight?
• 1:08:23
  So pretty good? Pretty good? Pretty pretty good? But fair numbers nailed
• 1:08:28
  it? Yeah? Nice? Was that more or less than you? K
• 1:08:30
  neil? Honestly? Man Like it starts to really the second half of this
• 1:08:35
  movie starts to really just come together, so they bleed together. Separating them
• 1:08:40
  out by scene or by line is kind of hard. There's just times that
• 1:08:43
  hit and it's well, and it's different when you love a movie and have
• 1:08:47
  such a history with it, because I know I'm that way, so for
• 1:08:50
  sure get that. It's just I don't know, I especially when I see
• 1:08:54
  like characters. This is true in real life too, when I see other
• 1:08:57
  people going through loss like that hits me worse than when I'm going through loss.
• 1:09:00
  I don't know why, but that's just like that is always like a
• 1:09:03
  big trigger emotionally for me. So like seeing these like trying to hold onto
• 1:09:09
  this relationship and going through these like painful parts of relationship, but also longing
• 1:09:13
  for not letting it go and realizing it's too late because you've already gone through
• 1:09:16
  this thing, halfway through this process, realizing that it was a mistake,
• 1:09:19
  like that whole thing. But yeah, there's some really banger moments in this
• 1:09:25
  movie for sure. Yeah, I love that. That's great. Well,
• 1:09:29
  should we go ahead and do a little movie trivia here? I think we
• 1:09:31
  should. Let's do that. Great, let's see. Despite the fact that
• 1:09:36
  Charlie Kaufman's script and Michael or Michel sorry Gondari's visual concepts were closely followed,
• 1:09:44
  the cast members were allowed many chances to improvise. Elijah Wood and Mark Ruffalo
• 1:09:49
  improvised extensively, apparently, and much of the dialogue between Jim Carrey and Kate
• 1:09:55
  Winslet resulted from videotape to rehearsal sessions during which the two became close by sharing
• 1:10:00
  tales of real life relationships and heartbreaks. So I just thought that was cool
• 1:10:03
  that it was, you know, close to what was planned, but also
• 1:10:08
  there was some room there. I bet that felt felt fun for them to
• 1:10:11
  kind of go and maybe is why it feels so real at various points.
• 1:10:15
  Yeah, there was actually another line. I forgot to write this down on
• 1:10:18
  my quotes. But in the house at the end where they like she like
• 1:10:21
  reads the mail of whoever's actual house it is, and she's like, I'm
• 1:10:25
  gonna go upstairs and slip into something a little more ruth and feeling ruthless.
• 1:10:29
  And it's kind of thrown away because he like starts talking over yah. Yeah,
• 1:10:36
  but yeah, that's a good shout. I thought it was funny that
• 1:10:41
  the idea for this film was brought to Michel Gondrie by his friend who just
• 1:10:46
  suggested, you get a card in the mail that says someone you know has
• 1:10:49
  just erased you from their memory. And that's where like the whole idea stemmed
• 1:10:54
  from. So it's like, that's really neat, really neat. Let's see,
• 1:10:59
  oh, the the speaking of improvising. When Kate punches Jim Carrey during
• 1:11:04
  the train scene that was not stage door planned, and so his response is
• 1:11:10
  genuine surprise I thought that came and she hits him hard. It's almost like
• 1:11:15
  like she hurried, like she was trying to be like, no, I
• 1:11:18
  should just do it, you know, Like it's really funny. I liked
• 1:11:21
  it. Let's see, we got the music thing. When they're talking,
• 1:11:28
  the music only goes when they're talking. That was like a very conscious choice
• 1:11:31
  and I thought that was cool. Yeah, I love that, uh,
• 1:11:38
  we said, the one where he's standing up the practical effects. I always
• 1:11:43
  thought that was so cool. Yeah, that's such a wild I did not
• 1:11:45
  know about that DVD like scenes thing. I'd love to see that, like
• 1:11:53
  the the footage of him, like because one shots are so fun anyway,
• 1:11:58
  like doing stuff like that, that's really neat. Virtually all of the most
• 1:12:01
  bizarre and fascinating scenes in the movie were created with old fashioned camera editing,
• 1:12:06
  lighting, and prop and set tricks. Like we said, the use of
• 1:12:11
  digital effects were very limited. The striking kitchen scene with Joel as a child
• 1:12:15
  was created with an elaborate force perspective setup, similar to what Peter Jackson used
• 1:12:20
  in Lord of the Rings trilogy. I just thought that was cool too,
• 1:12:24
  to know that that's how they got him to look so tiny in the table
• 1:12:27
  big and all that good stuff. So that's neat nice, and it mentioned
• 1:12:30
  Lord of the Rings. Let's be honest. The scene where Joel and Clementine
• 1:12:34
  watched the circus go through the streets was made up on the spot, as
• 1:12:39
  the film crew and cast happened to be working nearby, and the director decided
• 1:12:44
  it would work well in the film. So the part where Clementine disappears suddenly
• 1:12:47
  is one of Gondry's favorite moments in the film, and Jim Carey didn't know
• 1:12:54
  that she was going to disappear like that, and he liked it because because
• 1:13:00
  Jim Carrey's face gets so sad, but the sound cuts out because he's actually
• 1:13:04
  saying Kate in it, He's like, Kate, what happened? Which I
• 1:13:09
  think is really neat. Yeah, that's really cool. When Rob, I
• 1:13:15
  know you loved this part when Mark Ruffalo scares Kirsten Dunst, Yeah, he
• 1:13:20
  asked. The director asked Ruffalo to hide in a different spot each each take,
• 1:13:26
  so then it was still a surprise. It's pretty great, which worked
• 1:13:30
  out. I think he really did scare the crap out of her. So
• 1:13:32
  you did a good job. Let's see. I love a jump scares so
• 1:13:38
  much. Oh, this is messed up. When Jim Carrey first met Michelle
• 1:13:43
  Gondry about starring in the film, Carrie was suffering from a depressive episode and
• 1:13:48
  over lunch he told the director told Carrie, you're so beautiful right now,
• 1:13:54
  you're so broken. Please don't get well, and recounting the story a decade
• 1:14:00
  later, Carrie would remark, that's how this business is, and that,
• 1:14:04
  yeah, tracks, that's messed up, dude, Like, I hate that.
• 1:14:10
  I guess at least something beautiful came out of it. Yeah, I
• 1:14:15
  guess. I don't know. That's pretty problem. Yeah, just like please
• 1:14:19
  don't get better, Come on, man, come h Yeah, I guess.
• 1:14:27
  At least one version of the screenplay ends with Clementine and Joel in an
• 1:14:30
  endless cycle of erasures and getting back together. In the last scene of this
• 1:14:35
  version, and elderly Clementine sits with the doctor, and the screenplay calls for
• 1:14:42
  the audience to see a computer screen showing at least fifteen dates of previous erasers
• 1:14:46
  stretching back some fifty years, all of them involving Joel Barrish. The actual
• 1:14:53
  ending in the movie ends on a much more upbeat note. I'm glad they
• 1:14:57
  say that that's a depressing would be to my that's too much, Like that's
• 1:15:02
  yeah. It's kind of surprising though, because Charlie Kaufman really goes I mean,
• 1:15:09
  I can definitely see that he goes for the jugular. It seems,
• 1:15:12
  you know, Yeah, he doesn't usually care if it doesn't end with a
• 1:15:15
  happy ending. Sure right, yeah, but that that was the ending of
• 1:15:20
  the trivia that I had. I saw a couple of other things. I
• 1:15:23
  saw that there was another subplot that involved Joel having a one night stand with
• 1:15:29
  his ex girlfriend who they mentioned Naomi, and Naomi was Ellen Pompeo. Why
• 1:15:35
  she was deleted from the final cut. I have a hard time imagining how
• 1:15:42
  that would have worked storyline wise, like plot wise, Yeah, it feels
• 1:15:46
  like it would have come out of left fields. I'm kind of glad they
• 1:15:48
  deleted that, but yeah, sure, but a bummer for Ellen Pompeo because,
• 1:15:54
  yeah, I feel like the first time I saw her was old school.
• 1:15:57
  I don't know. Yeah, when I saw that, they did a
• 1:16:00
  fun thing and I always love when films do this. But to help promote
• 1:16:02
  the movie, a fully functional website was created for Lacuna, saying that it
• 1:16:09
  would provide memory erasure and all that and there's a link to the movie and
• 1:16:13
  all that stuff. I love that. As of twenty twenty four, this
• 1:16:15
  is the most recent film to win a Screenwriting Oscar without being nominated for Best
• 1:16:20
  Picture, which is pretty wild. That is pretty crazy. Yeah, why
• 1:16:26
  wasn't it nominated? Yeah, check it out. I don't know the gang.
• 1:16:30
  I was gonna say two thousand and four, right, yep? Oh
• 1:16:32
  four, yeah, yep, and makes Yeah, I don't know. Would
• 1:16:39
  that be the five oscars or is it four? I don't know how that
• 1:16:41
  works the five. I think just make sure Kate Winslet is up for Best
• 1:16:46
  Leading or you know, the screenplay whatever. A couple other things before Jim
• 1:16:53
  Carey expressed interest in playing Joel, Nicholas Cage was considered for the role.
• 1:16:58
  Who I think that would have been a very different tone in this movie if
• 1:17:01
  it was, for sure, it would be a lot more like dream scenario.
• 1:17:05
  If you've seen that, which was so crazy. Yeah, it was
• 1:17:11
  wild. I saw Seth Rogan auditioned for the role of Patrick. Wow,
• 1:17:16
  Okay, he could have done it. And apparently Denzel turned down the role
• 1:17:23
  of Joel. That's interesting, which can't really see that now, Like,
• 1:17:30
  Denzel is an incredible actor, and I'm sure he would have been incredible in
• 1:17:32
  it, but it's really hard to picture that. Yeah, I don't.
• 1:17:40
  I don't know if he could hit the the melancholy notes quite the same way.
• 1:17:44
  Yeah, he didn't have enough genuine depression to pull it off. I
• 1:17:46
  think, right, why can't I don't. They just won't show me the
• 1:17:54
  list. I don't know, I'm having a bad time. Hey, it's
• 1:17:59
  all good. We don't need to worry about Go go google it yourself.
• 1:18:01
  I don't know what. Did you have any trivia? You didn't need to
• 1:18:06
  get any. But did you have anything that you've learned? Neil? No,
• 1:18:10
  not particularly. I mean there was the whole Lacuna translation, which I
• 1:18:14
  thought was obviously a little fun Easter egg kind of apt for for that whole
• 1:18:17
  thing, But that's kind of about it. Most of it, of course,
• 1:18:20
  was practical effects stuff we've already talked about. I didn't really have anything
• 1:18:24
  outside of that cool well Judgment Day. Will there be a sequel? No,
• 1:18:30
  it'd be hilarious if the sequel was just the same movie, the same
• 1:18:35
  movie, maybe shot from like from her perspective, you know, we see
• 1:18:40
  her side of the story. That'd be interesting. That is interesting. I
• 1:18:44
  like that. I like that. Or we see them, you know,
• 1:18:46
  when they're I guess fifty years later in doing the erasures over and over and
• 1:18:51
  over. But yeah, I don't like that wouldn't be fun. It would
• 1:18:56
  not be fun. I don't like that there ending I think I think frolicking
• 1:19:00
  on the beach is good enough for me. It is. It's way more
• 1:19:03
  positive and uplifting, and I'm up for that. I have the Oscars.
• 1:19:08
  If we want to talk about let's talk about it. A million Dollar Baby
• 1:19:13
  won that year. Combinations Finding never Land, Million Dollar Baby, Ray,
• 1:19:17
  Sideways, and the Avia Tour. Those are all good. We're all pretty
• 1:19:23
  solid, are good. Aviator was really good. All those were good.
• 1:19:27
  Yeah, and she lost to Hillary Swank. Million Dollar Baby makes sense.
• 1:19:31
  Maybe Sideway, I mean, Sideways had some really great dialogue and good acting
• 1:19:36
  performances. But like the more impressive film, I think I agree with that.
• 1:19:44
  Yeah, I think this one, I mean on originality alone, you
• 1:19:47
  know, like the whole concept of this film and the execution of it was
• 1:19:50
  so unlike any other movie that I can think, Yeah, right, that
• 1:19:56
  is kind of weird. It wasn't up now if it was doing the the
• 1:20:00
  ten picture formula, which we've done for the last few years with the Oscars,
• 1:20:03
  if for sure, Yeah, this is only five, which is crazy.
• 1:20:08
  Yeah cool. Well thanks for looking that up, buddy. Yeah,
• 1:20:13
  would you guys like to play a game? I decided to do another Malkovich
• 1:20:18
  Malkovich Malkovich and this Neil is, I'm going to say a quote from a
• 1:20:25
  film. If you know the answer, you ring in with your name,
• 1:20:28
  and you tell me three different things. You'll tell me the name of the
• 1:20:31
  film, the actor who said it, and the character's name. You can
• 1:20:35
  get up to three points for each quote. If you ring it and get
• 1:20:41
  it wrong. There are no negative points, but the other person can come
• 1:20:45
  in and steal any of the things you get wrong. All these films have
• 1:20:49
  something in common. When you know the theme, you can ring it at
• 1:20:53
  any time for a point. They might have something to do with Eternal Sunshine
• 1:20:58
  of the Spotless Mind. Are you guys ready? Yes? All right?
• 1:21:04
  Number one the Man Punted Baxter. I'm giving it to Neil Damn Anchorman Anchorman,
• 1:21:17
  Yes, can you do the full title of Anchorman Anchorman, the Legend
• 1:21:21
  of ron Burgundy. He's got three points? All right? So much bad
• 1:21:30
  man do run? I wanted to do a quote from that movie. I
• 1:21:36
  was just like, I gotta go for a deep cut. Let's go for
• 1:21:40
  a deep love it, love it all right, Let's go to number two.
• 1:21:45
  This might be tougher. We'll see. I keep telling you, you
• 1:21:50
  listen to me more, you live longer. I keep telling you, you
• 1:22:00
  listen to me more, you live longer. There's no negative points. Fives
• 1:22:09
  four bukes. Now I can't be that. We just did it, uh,
• 1:22:13
  Edge of Tomorrow. It sounds like a movie like that. Oh it
• 1:22:15
  does sound like that. It is not that. Yeah, five four do
• 1:22:23
  you have? I guess neil, I got nothing to one. This,
• 1:22:26
  of course, was Indiana Jones and The Temple of Doom. Short round.
• 1:22:30
  Wo okay, ye, let's go to number three. I'm French. Why
• 1:22:43
  do you think I have this outrageous accent? To you, silly king?
• 1:22:50
  These are hard soon he says it with an accent, very a very big
• 1:22:59
  accent. Why do you think I have this outrageous accent, you silly king?
• 1:23:06
  Yes, it's gotta be Mony Python. I'm gonna say, hold on,
• 1:23:15
  you gotta do the whole title. Yeah. Yeah, that's why I
• 1:23:17
  was trying to pick which Money Holy Grail it is mon Python and the Holy
• 1:23:24
  Grail. Yeah. I don't know the character or the actor though. Okay,
• 1:23:31
  do you know something it is not? Eric Idol? No, okay,
• 1:23:35
  yeah, that's hard. Do you know Money Python and the Holy Grail.
• 1:23:39
  Neil not well enough? Okay, it was John Cleese, clease.
• 1:23:45
  Yeah, he's doing the French soldier, just French soldiers, A tough one.
• 1:23:51
  I love that. So you got you got one point. You got
• 1:23:59
  that point, honestly done. I think you guys are gonna get number four.
• 1:24:02
  I had to put in some easy ones and some tough ones. So
• 1:24:05
  here's number four. You'll definitely get this. You shall not pass, Bukes,
• 1:24:15
  Lord of the Rings. I appreciate the attempt. Shall shall not pass.
• 1:24:24
  It's Gandalf the Gray at that juncture. Uh and Ian God, I
• 1:24:30
  can't I can't think of his last name? Whoa You still have not gotten
• 1:24:34
  a point for the title of the movie. By the way, Oh,
• 1:24:38
  I'm sorry, Lord of the Rings. Uh that's Fellowship of the Ring.
• 1:24:42
  Fellowship of the Ring. Yep. And you could have been tricky because he
• 1:24:45
  says that in the second one too. Yeah. No, that been funny.
• 1:24:53
  Uh. Ian, Why can't think of his name? I have three?
• 1:24:59
  No, that's not it, Neil, who is it? Ian McKellen
• 1:25:04
  McKellen. Neil gets one, you get two? M all right, James.
• 1:25:13
  Number five. This we'll see, we'll see how we do. Number
• 1:25:17
  five. No, I'm a stunt man. It's not a great quote,
• 1:25:23
  but it is a quote. No, I'm a stunt man, Neil,
• 1:25:29
  Neil fall guy. No, but very good. Guess bus Bugs Once upon
• 1:25:35
  a Time in Hollywood? Got it nice? Those are the two stunt man
• 1:25:40
  movies. Yeah, pretty much, pretty much. Brad Pitt, Brad Pitt.
• 1:25:45
  I don't I don't remember what his name is. Yeah, you'd have
• 1:25:50
  to. I don't know. I don't know. Yeah, do you know
• 1:25:54
  me? Oh man, I don't think I can. Well, he says
• 1:25:59
  it, but I don't know. Yeah, he says it a bunch.
• 1:26:03
  I don't think I have it. I've only seen that movie once, the
• 1:26:06
  same I got to rewatch it. His name was Cliff Booth, Cliff Booth,
• 1:26:14
  and Leo's name was Dalton something, Dalton breaking, Dalton. I remember.
• 1:26:24
  So that was five? What are we halfway through? I have five?
• 1:26:28
  Neil has four? This is it? I don't know what. Oh
• 1:26:33
  wait, so the movies that start with a vowel, right it is not?
• 1:26:42
  Nope, so we so far we have anchormand the Legend of ron Burgundy,
• 1:26:45
  Indiana, Jones and the Temple Doom, Money Python in the Holy Grail,
• 1:26:49
  The Lord of the Rings, Fellowship of the Ring, and Once upon
• 1:26:53
  a Time in Hollywood? Is it movies with long titles? It absolutely is
• 1:26:59
  a point. Nice. They have at least five words in the title.
• 1:27:03
  Nice. So there you go. Number six, What are you waiting for?
• 1:27:19
  And now I'll say it how she says it? Please do? What
• 1:27:23
  are you waiting for? And there's a twirl around and it's an overhead shot
• 1:27:30
  and she's screaming and what is that from? I can hear it in my
• 1:27:34
  brain for what are you waiting? She's being chased by something bugs bus No,
• 1:27:43
  I don't have it. You're just giving yourself time. Uh. You
• 1:27:51
  guys must not have watched I know what you did last summer. Man,
• 1:27:57
  that's a deep cut. You said it's raining, right, I think,
• 1:28:01
  So, my god, you're disappointed with me for not getting that one.
• 1:28:05
  I think, Yeah, what are you waiting for? That's so great?
• 1:28:13
  It was like the only memorable quote from that movie. All right, let's
• 1:28:17
  go to number seven. This is also a tough one. I live for
• 1:28:21
  the People because I love the people. Oh my god, I know that
• 1:28:27
  one too, but what is it? I live for the people because I
• 1:28:33
  love the people? Five four three two the Fred Hampton. It is the
• 1:28:46
  Fred Hampton movie. Is the reason I picked it is because Neil was on
• 1:28:53
  for that. That was Judas in the Blacks, and it was Daniel you
• 1:29:00
  were into my head. Wait for a second, but I actually remember it.
• 1:29:04
  Just kidding that was not guessing that, but I did think it was
• 1:29:09
  maybe from that. Okay, damn it. I should have been more emphatic.
• 1:29:14
  Mm okay, let's go to number eight. I think you will get
• 1:29:16
  this one. Bread makes you fat, pukess makes you fat. It's a
• 1:29:28
  it's uh Michael Sarah. Yes, Oh sorry, I should say that Scott
• 1:29:32
  Pilgrim versus the world. Yes, and his name is Scott Pilgrim. Boom,
• 1:29:36
  you got three pints makes you fat? That line is so dumb,
• 1:29:45
  so much. I love that that line comes in like a montage of the
• 1:29:50
  date and it's just like a five second clip of that conversation and then it
• 1:29:55
  cuts forward again. I love it, so h All right, let's go
• 1:30:00
  to number nine. Let's see how you doing this one. If you want
• 1:30:04
  to know what a man's like, take a good look at how he treats
• 1:30:08
  his inferiors, not his equals. If you want to know what a man's
• 1:30:15
  like, take a good look at how he treats his inferiors, not his
• 1:30:19
  equals. I know I know this one too. Four. There's just no
• 1:30:26
  other clues to there are, Pep. It is kind of tough. No
• 1:30:31
  guesses, Wolf of Wall Street. Nope, yeah, nope, Neil,
• 1:30:36
  no guests. I don't know. No, that's not r gonna about for
• 1:30:41
  me. This was from Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire. This was
• 1:30:45
  a serious black damn played by Gary Oldman. Wow, he we're gonna hear
• 1:30:51
  about that one. Yeah. I was not close on that one, clearly.
• 1:30:56
  It's like, I know I've heard this before. We only have one
• 1:31:00
  left you guys, where are we at? Point? Wise? I have
• 1:31:02
  eight, Neil has five for me. Yeah, all of us kind of
• 1:31:11
  so, I will say I've never seen number ten. But I did say
• 1:31:15
  that this was a big quick quote from him. Okay, I asked you
• 1:31:21
  to give me a refreshing drink. I wasn't expecting a rainforest. You could
• 1:31:26
  fall in love with an orangutang in that? God? What is that?
• 1:31:34
  Oh? I asked you to give me a refreshing drink. I wasn't expecting
• 1:31:39
  the rainforest you can fall in love with an orangutang in that that's my best.
• 1:31:45
  That's it good? That's good. I don't know who it is,
• 1:31:48
  but it's good. But it's good. Is it? Jason? Pretty an
• 1:31:57
  impressions. I liked that, Jesus. I don't know what movie that's from
• 1:32:01
  though, Yeah, only one I can think of is Verish. It's a
• 1:32:05
  long title, long title, Jason Statham, long title. That's not the
• 1:32:14
  big air one, is it for? No's not a fast and furious to
• 1:32:19
  know. I should have done one for you. Oh so this was from
• 1:32:27
  Lockstock and Two Smoking Bears. Good, damn it? Okay, that's a
• 1:32:30
  good Yea. That's another movie that I need to rewatch. I love that
• 1:32:32
  movie. It's just been a long time. I thought you guys both liked
• 1:32:35
  it. That's why I picked it. But I still haven't seen it,
• 1:32:40
  and I have to because I've been on a guy Richie kick and I love
• 1:32:43
  his damn it definitely should. Yeah, it's a good one. But you
• 1:32:45
  got called. That's a good pull, man. That's a good pull.
• 1:32:50
  The bonus was stop or my mom will shoot? Fantastic. I love but
• 1:33:01
  it's nicely done. Buddy. You'll tell us how we do our top five
• 1:33:05
  characters with unnaturally dyed hair amazing A fight for the Ages. I kep waiting
• 1:33:13
  for you just because I know the whole title. I was waiting for too
• 1:33:15
  long. Foo. Thanks for everything, Julie new I don't know any quote,
• 1:33:19
  so I was like, I actually probably won't even get it. That
• 1:33:24
  would have been good man. Yeah, I didn't even think the long titles.
• 1:33:28
  You know, it's interesting, wrinkle, because it's another step you can
• 1:33:30
  trip up on just getting some words wrong and a long title, you know
• 1:33:34
  for sure. Yeah. I tried to make you know the big anthology ones
• 1:33:41
  where it could only be from that movie. Yeah, you called me out
• 1:33:44
  on the ushell and that pass was on the side. You would have been
• 1:33:47
  like, yeah, the other one. Yeah, I didn't think about that
• 1:33:50
  at all. That'd have been great. Uh well, Neil, thanks for
• 1:33:55
  coming on, buddy. This was a blast to have you as always.
• 1:33:58
  Absolutely thanks for having me on. Hell yeah dude, And we'll have you
• 1:34:00
  on sometime again very soon. Uh, stay tuned. We're gonna have more
• 1:34:05
  good movies coming your way. I don't remember what's next, so be surprised
• 1:34:09
  with me. Yeah, we need to do with us so, but yeah,
• 1:34:14
  I think that does it today for eternal sunshine of the spotless mind.
• 1:34:17
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